to the flag of the United States of America and to the for this meeting to order the meeting of the a City Council for May 8th, 2025. In compliance with the Open Public
Meetings Act of the State of New Jersey, adequate notice of this meeting of the Acar City Common Council was provided in the following manner. Advanced written notice of this meeting was posted on the AC Carver City bulletin board. It was
posted on the AC Carver city website and advanced written notice was sent to the Hamilton Gazette and the press. Roll call, please. Mayor Japetti is not here tonight. Clark here. Dash will not be
here tonight. Dovy here. Galloway here. Heist here. Hessie here. Kenir here. Timbers Wright here. Okay, number four on our agenda is approve the minutes of April 24th, 2025.
I'll make a motion. Second. Motion has been made and seconded. All in favor? I opposed. Motion passed. Okay. Uh number five is public comment. Anybody wish to be heard on any agenda items right
now? Okay. Uh number six, uh the mayor's not here. I have a little something mayor's report. We had the cleanup day this past weekend and the mayor wanted to report that we collected a total of three tons of trash and recycling and that the
mayor's walk is May 18th at 1 p.m. meeting at Peace Pilgrim Park. That's all. Thank you. Council me start with Councilwoman Hessie.
for safety, code enforcement and rotary. I have nothing for safety or for rotary but the code committee. We had a meeting on May 6th. During the meeting, we discussed three ordinances uh which will be introduced at the next council
meeting. We also addressed concerns regarding the bowling alley and lights at the White Horse Pike smoke shop. I would like our residents to know that we are aware of these issues and are actively working to resolve them. The next code committee meeting will take place on June 3rd at 6 PM. Two
software companies will join us via Zoom to present their services, answer questions, and explain how their services can benefit our city. There has also been a significant there has also been significant discussion since January regarding
municipal toers for recycling and trash collection. We have decided to move forward with this effort. This step marks the beginning of the Egg Harbor City Pride Initiative, a communitywide effort aimed at enhancing the quality of life for all of our residents and
businesses. The initiative focuses on reducing visible signs of disorder that can contribute to a sense of neglect and invite more serious issues. The goal is to make a cover city the place to live, work, and own a business.
Let's show our A Harbor City pride by taking care of our own piece of A Harbor City. Together, we can make a meaningful difference. An open door meeting will be held one hour before the next city council meeting, providing council
members the opportunity to speak directly with the representative from the ACUA. They can ask questions and discuss concerns. While the meeting will be open to the public for observation, we kindly ask that all questions and comments for
the public be reserved for the public comment segment during the council meeting immediately followed. So that was the next meeting an hour before. Go ahead. Yes, but we What is Say that again? I'm sorry because I think we need to
advertise this and Oh yeah, we advertise it for six o'clock, I think. Okay, first I'm hearing of it. So sorry about that. Um, so again 6 o'clock the hour before on the 22nd
and it will basically be for council to discuss anything with ACUA representative. Is it a public hearing? It's open to the public. However, comments will be reserved until uh until the end of the council meeting.
So it's a public hearing. No, it's it's not really it's just it's informative workshop. Okay. And the other thing I just wanted to mention and no action will be taken. No action though.
This is just before introducing an ordinance. And this is about the totes. It's about the totes. Yes. Yes. And anything other with the ACU? Absolutely. Yes. And the last thing I'd like to mention is for your convenience, the
online inspection schedule is back up online. It was briefly, it was down for possibly a week. It was um it's back online. So, if I apologize for any inconveniences this may have caused for the landlords trying to set up or
schedule their um their inspections and that's all that I have. Thank you. Uh Councilwoman Galloway for sustainable and property. Um I don't have much of a report tonight. I was not really prepared because I was running around
all day today. But um uh we have uh we held our Arbor Day celebration on the 25th of April and we gave out um 15 13 trees and we have three left over.
So if anybody is interested in having a tree for their front for backyards, you can get in touch with me. Um I gave one away today actually. And um we have our rain barrel workshop is Saturday at 10:00 a.m. at the pavilion at the lake.
Um we have 15 rain barrels to distribute to a larber city residents. Anyone is welcome to attend, but you have to be a resident to get a rain barrel. And the uh the Pinelands Preservation Alliance is um conducting the the program and
they'll be instructing um residents on how to connect the rain barrel to their downspouts. so forth. So, um, and then we have a few other events lined up. The, uh, nature walk, Pepsi Lake Park, and I think that might be
it. I think that's it. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Wright for Parks and Playgrounds. Uh, just two things for Jerry. Jerry, were we able to get those swings for Rodeo Park? Uh, they're on order, Mason. So, we'll get them. And then, uh, any, uh, where would the Gatoraders stand? remember you were
talking about it at two meetings ago. Not with me. Yeah, you said you were gonna look into it, but it was Yeah, with the rhyme. We're We were still trying to set up the meeting with um Highlands. I keep pushing them to try to do an afternoon meeting because none of you guys can meet right. Right now. Um
but I I saw Well, my issue is it's not so much I mean the stand is going to have to wait till after football season now anyway. We're we're we're know but the announcers booth the electric Oh. Oh. Oh yeah. Like we wanted to get that door fixed because it was um Yes. the uh overhang doors fixed and you said that
could be done. Yeah, that's right. Doors. We'll crank on it this week. This Yeah, you know, I say the end of June, we'll be out there and I just don't want to come down and then you know that especially the door. I mean, I don't know how many turns I got left
before we can even get in that building. I think you're right. Remember the ceiling? Yes. Yeah, the ceiling. Yeah, that the drop ceiling up and out. As long as nothing that we do is a highlands trigger, I'm okay with it. Yeah, it could be. I mean, the only thing I think that would but we don't have to really have to worry about that because it's been we've been doing it
for years would be that little pad for the uh quarter box. Other than that, okay, I think anything else is is basically Okay, just updating, I guess. Yep. That's it. Okay. Thank you. Thanks,
Councilwoman Clark for the school board. Uh, nothing at this time. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Uh, Councilman Doy for public works. Um, I don't have a a report or an update, but I'll defer to Jerry, uh, the administrator for a
update on activities of the public works department. Okay. Thank you. And as far as finance, um, again, we've had multiple meetings with potential developers with a lot of irons in the fire, so to speak, but,
um, hopefully soon we'll get something concrete. I I want to commend Ryan for reaching out to different, uh, developers to create some interest. And uh we actually I believe will have some
competition for some of the projects. So I think that's a good thing. All right. Uh that was council comments number seven. So uh chief of police number eight.
I think this gravity so um I was not here for the last meeting but uh since the 24th of April through today we have had two simple assaults, four thefts, 11 motor vehicle accidents, two pedestrian stops, 99 traffic stops,
um total of 56 summones issued, three arrests, Um they yeah three arrests um nine business alarms, four residential alarms, 57 crime prevention activities, one criminal mischief call, seven domestics, 10 EMS incidents, two firearms ID apps, seven follow-ups, 251
property checks, eight public service checks. Um, next Wednesday, July 14th, we will be out in Lincoln Park, um, with Church by the Bay, uh, doing our every other month, um, clothing drive and
giving away food business with Operation Rise will be there. From our community, Jport System will be there. So, uh, if anybody has any questions about expunment issues, uh, they will be out there as well. That's from 10 to 1 on Wednesday, May 14th. And that is it for me. Any questions? I just give you you
could drop off clothing there. Giving clothing away. Thank you, Chief. Okay. Number nine is CFO report. Can you just give a quick uh summary of what you think the
uh difference on the taxes will be? Sure. With everything included. Sure. Um tonight on the agenda we have um the adoption of our budget which there's no changes since we um introduced and it has a zero increase for the municipal um tax rate. The
school tax rate will be they had a slight increase in our actual levy but because the net valuation went up it looks like it's a zero um increase for the local school as well and the regional school will have a 4.6 six tax rate increase from my numbers that
we're not sure about the county yet and I don't have any numbers from the county. Good. Thank you, city clerk. I have nothing. City administrator. Thank you. Um in public works, we're just trying to
keep up with the bay and the turf and the grass growing like crazy. Uh but we're trying our best. Uh we spent a lot of time last week at the lake to prepare for not only the um um the cleanup day, but also we're working with Dave to do
some um mandated D upgrades uh that he's asking us to do. Um as far as um our code and building department, we meet regularly now once a week. Um and we've invited the police and and uh we really
appreciate they they've showing up to coordinate and um discuss items with us. As far as um our tree contractor, our tree contractor for removal of street trees has been onboarded. Uh we actually had a training session today to make
sure that they're working with our treekeeper program, which is what we have uh managing our inventory. So, the tree contractor may show up at your house um and give you a 3 to five day notice that the street tree is going to be removed out um either it's dead or
it's diseased or in very bad shape. We're only taking down trees that are very very poor or already currently dead. So, they'll give you 3 to 5 days notice to make sure that you're not um you're not parking your car in the street in front of your house. Uh this way have they have space and also
safety. Um, and they would be uh coordinating with the police on any of the major roadways as well to make sure that we have traffic control. And then as far as myself, I'm just this week was very busy. U first of all, it's my first full week. Uh, but the other thing was
that uh we were polishing up and working very hard, the whole staff was on our ordinances. We've got quite a few ordinances on tonight's meeting and also in the hopper for next week's meeting as well. So things are moving along very quickly, just the way I like it. Thank
you. Thank you. I have a question. Question. The totes, you said you had some information with an email we sent for the the No, the trash the bid the bids, right? Yeah. So, we had asked Joel in an email about information if you sent out for bids on
that. Yeah. So, so last meeting when Chris was here was two meetings ago when Chris was here, he suggested I take a look at some of the bids that have been going around in the county. I looked at Middle Township. I think someone up there mentioned Middle Township. I looked at Atlantic City. I looked at um
North Wildwood, some of the bids that were um available and readily available to me. Um and there was a lot of issues with private sanitation companies. In addition, Chris turned me on to the fact that I think Parker McKay represents
waste management and that waste management is no longer doing residential pickup. For obvious reasons, it's very difficult and the prices are going up high. So, um I didn't put the um I didn't put it out to bid unless uh council wants to vote to put it out to
bid, but I didn't put it out to bid because it seems like and there's 12 other municipalities that do it. Seems like we're getting the best deal and probably the best rate from the ACUA. and I don't necessarily want to put it out there unless I'm asked to do it um
and allow others including the ACUA to raise our price because the entire state has been has been realizing very very significant increases. So I'm just trying to be cautious in that in that regard. Uh did I send I sent the email
out to I think everybody got it, didn't they? I don't The only thing I got on mine was you would give us some more information at the meeting tonight. asked with the email I received. Okay. So, I I'll resend the email because it was an email to to council members to to and and you that had asked. I included the public works committee and then
yourself. So, I'll resend it so you be able to see the information that I got. Okay. Probably not something that you know um it's probably something I I should send to you so you can see it. All right. Appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Anything else, John? No, that's it.
Okay. Thank you. Now with us tonight is Ma from uh Parker McKay, our city attorney. You have anything any comments? Uh nothing to report, but happy to answer any questions. Okay, great. Thank you. Uh our engineer 13 on
the agenda. Um so I'll give updates on like sort of the most important stuff. Um Buffalo Avenue, we're we're still just waiting for response from PSN so we can put that out to bid. Again, that's the four and 500 blocks of Buffalo Avenue like waiting up for the school. Um, Lakeland campground ADA improvements, same things. Well,
actually wait to hear back from Pilands, not DOT. Uh, city hall improvements. We're just kind of wrapping up some final things. So, hoping we can review that with the city and and bid that within the next couple weeks. Uh, the land of pedestrian improvements or is resolutions 1920, 21, and 22. Um, it's
three extensions for one of the projects and one for the other. We passed a singular resolution for this and DOT and you know the way that they check their boxes they need a resolution for each individual one. That's what's on tonight's agenda. Correct. So that's consecutive six month extensions instead
of just for Yeah. Right. Yeah. The one So we or one for the they're two different Yeah. One's a fiscal year 2022 funding, one's fiscal year 2023. So we kind of merged the projects and we got the second one, but technically the first one still has its initial deadline. So they're they're just
managed separately unfortunately. Um what else? That's due Tuesday, right? Resolutions. Yeah, I think we got to submit those by then. Um Weissburgger demo. Um Parker Mccay is going to issue that notice to the
property owner to uh that the city intends to demolish the property. I think it's within 10 days is what it says in the letter. So we should be able to get the waste demolition moving pretty soon. Um excuse me, Ryan. Did that go out? Did a letter go out yet? Uh, I don't believe it was sent yet, but
I'm waiting to hear back from Chris. So, um, but like I said, when it was issued, well, that that was another minor woman, but we we they are when I talked to them, they sort of said, you can proceed with that. You have to follow and the property owners been notified. Well, that's
that's what I'm saying. Chris provided a draft um notice and I had talked to him about it, but I don't know if he sent it. I just talked to him about it earlier this week. So, and there is a property owner because Michael who owned it prior to has passed away. So, but
there is somebody else now who yeah they're the legal property owner and um we have to issue them proper notice before we can go on their property and demolish the building. Uh I don't think they have any intent on you know doing it themselves or have any interest if there's more than half million dollars worth of leans on the property. So, uh
at this point we're just waiting for DP to finish the cleanup so that we can foreclose. uh if we wait till the end, we foreclose on it. They will dispatch all of their leans and the city will take free tit or clear title of the building without any. Yeah. I wasn't sure if it was a person per se or if it was like a law firm or something like
that due to the fact that Michael had passed away. I didn't know if there was any voice beckers left after him. I don't believe it's I I don't recall whether it's an entity or an individual, but that Chris was able to to track down who's the registered owner of the property and and we're sending notice to them.
Shel Shelington. Mr. Shelington is the Yeah, I think that's that's what it said on the top of the letter. So, does that sound familiar? And Richard Hunt in your office. I think I think multiple people bought it at various tax sales and then realized what they bought and then just
Oh, okay. Yeah. So, um yeah. Uh two things, the last two things. One is um seventh terrace behind the Sprag School, Buffalo Avenue School. Um so it came to our attention that um the tax
maps show that that portion of Seventh Terrace uh that that rightway is being vacated, which means um the city sort of abandons that that rightway easement and it goes to the adjoining property owners on either side. Um we went through all the city's records and weren't able to find anything effectuating that
ordinance to vacate that property. Uh we contacted the school. They have no record of it. Um so I spoke to Chris about you know essentially just reverting the tax map to show the rightway there. Um and he suggested that we conduct uh a title search on the adjacent properties to see if any of
them had accepted that rightway dedication if the city actually vacated. Um because if we just reverse it, we switch the tax map back and in fact the city did vacate it and somebody took possession of that land that would be an issue. So ideally the city never vacated it and we'll just change the tax maps
back. Um that would resolve a lot of issues because New Jersey American has utilities in that right of way that we sold to them. Um so if we sold it and it's not in fact in the right of way, we have to secure easements and there's other complications. So hopefully the title search comes back clear and we
just reverse the tax maps showing the vacation. How long should that take? Couple of weeks. I just sent you a reminder. Yeah, it's seventh alley behind and Easter Wing Street, right? Oh, okay. Yeah, but so it's actually between the school and
like the playground play lot where the kids play. They have it gated off that area. So they they effectively control that on a day-to-day bas basis and it is shown as being vacated on the tax maps, but it doesn't look like the city ever actually vacated. So um if that's the
case, we'll reverse the tax maps. It will be right away. will have to develop some kind of agreement with the school for their daily use of that and ability to restrict it, right? Um but it does greatly simplify for utility access there. There's a homeowner behind the
school um that is trying to get access to utilities and right now they can't because it's right away the tax maps. Um so we just need to get that cleared up. That will help with that situation and and some other you know complications that would arise if it is a big So could you just clear this off for me? They're the city's trying to take it back or
they're just trying to Are they going to keep the gate there or not? Well, it looks like we never vacate. Yeah, there's no there's no clear records other than tax map that says that it was vacated, right? So, we're trying to clarify this was never vacated. We're going to revert the tax maps to showing
the rightway there. But we don't need to take control the day-to-day control back. A school uses it daily. I don't think you got I was going to say how how can you make that an alley with the school right there and the ground right there. The kids walk. Exactly. So we'll we'll have to have some kind of agreement with the school that they can
control access during the day or you know whatever. Um but for utility purposes exactly reestablishing it as a rightway is important because New Jersey now has a water man that on the tax maps is not on property rights. Right. But
couldn't we do it like Well, I'm sure the alley before Sprag is, but the dirt alley that's after Sprag, just do that section or you would have to do that whole. So, yeah, we the problem is there's homeowners that face Cincinnati Avenue in that block. Correct. So, there the utilities that would normally be in
the alley behind them. Uh, I got it. Won't have anything to do with the next, right? So, we we just ideally will find that was never vacated. We fix the tax maps and develop a formal agreement with the school and then everything with the right of way. The utilities is good and the school's fine. And how do they work
the gates? They keep the gate clos. Yeah. Yeah. Right. We'll them continue to maintain the gates there even city right away. But is utility utility, right? If there is no right of way, it really complicates New Jersey American because they own utilities in what right
now is shown as other people's property. And to their credit, they've been trying to resolve this issue with that. Correct. I think that came about when they did the preschool edition on the end of the block, wouldn't it? Yeah, that's that's when it seems to have happened, but we can't find any
paperwork that finalized the vacation up. Made it to the tax, but no other. Yeah. All we have is a lot line that's could be where it is. That's all we have. We don't have anything else. Right. So, the only thing we can do at this point, per Chris's suggestion, is just do a title search to make sure none
of the adjoining properties accepted a vacated terrace. If if none of the other property ownies took ownership of it, then it's there's only two properties on there, right? Uh well, so the school there's one on each side of the playground, right? Well, uh there's actually Oh, there's one on the corner. Then you got the parking lot. Then you
got one the school owns the corner. There's a private property. The school owns the next one and then I think this I don't remember the school owns the next one. No, the house was in between the parking lot and the right. So, um so yeah, it's it's a complicated block right away. So that's what we're hoping
for. But um title search pack and then the last thing is the green development checklist number 26. We developed that as part of the um energy plan community energy plan. I wasn't sure if that was the final yes.
Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean we made the made some small tweaks to it. I think for all intents and purposes it was developed during that process. Um, so the city's uh proposing to adopt it as a sort of a guidance doc and requiring developers to fill it out but not requiring them to do any take every
actions. Just want to make sure they're aware of everything and just sort of survey what they're taking advantage of. Do you have the ones with the small tweaks that sent in? Um, yeah, I think so. I think that's that was the the one that we distributed last probably a couple months ago, but I'll I'll make sure to get that.
So it was literally like we deleted I think two of them and reformatted these. Can we get that for the uh developers in a PDF format so they could just click the links because you have a lot of links to once it's adopted we will because the ordinance refers to Yeah. Well, we can provide it as a fillable
form so you just give it to them digitally. And it's not saying they have to do it. It's just a guide. It's a Yeah. Sorry. Carl U Councilman Timber just joined the meeting. Oh, thank yeah that's it for me unless anybody has any questions.
Any questions? Do we need to authorize to do title search? Yeah, we can do that. You want to make a motion? Yeah. Motion second. All in favor? I want to do it after so she doesn't
have to re number them all. Um, well said he was ordering I don't think we need I don't know why I don't I'm so Ryan's fault tonight. Sorry I messed things up. Computing.
Okay. Number 14 on the agenda is the resolution for equal opportunity which is required for our budget. Is there a motion? I make a motion. Second. Motion made second. Questions on the motion.
Clark, yes. Dovy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Hessie, yes. Kener, yes. Timbers, yes. Write, yes. Okay, motion passes. Resolution passes. Next uh number 15 is a resolution to
read the budget by title only. Is there a motion? Motion. Motion B seconded. Questions. Roll call, please. Do we have to read it? Title. The title. The title is that's when you actually 2025 budget,
right? Clark, yes. Joy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Hessie, yes. Kener, yes. Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. Okay, motion passes.
Number 16 is the public hearing on the 2025 municipal budget. Motion to open the public hearing. Make a motion. Second. Motion made and seconded. All in favor? I posted.
Okay. Public hearing before the 2025 municipal municipal budget is now open. Anyone wish to be heard? Going twice. Make a motion to close. Motion made to close. Second.
Motion P. Second to close. All in favor? I opposed. Motion passes. You have to self exam first. Okay. Number 17. Um, resolution for self-exam budget for
the CFO certification. Motion. I'll make a motion. Second. Motion being seconded. All in favor? I roll. Clark. Yes. Doy. Yes. Galloway. Yes. Heist. Yes. Hessie. Yes. Kenir, yes.
Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. Motion passes. Resolution number 18, 2025. Actually, ordinance municipal budget adoption. Is there a motion? Motion. Second. Motion made second. All
in favor? I'd like to keep saying. Clark, yes. Doy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Pathy, yes. Kener, yes. Timbers, yes. Write, yes.
Okay. Budget passes. Number 19. Resolution to approve. Approval to submit NJ DOT time extension for the award of the LA 2022
SST aver city transit plan extension phase 3 extension one for six months to August 15, 2024. And this is where you said we were going back. Yeah, we're going back. were coming. They wanted separate resolutions. Motion. I'll make
a motion. Second. Motion made. Second. Roll call, please. Clark, yes. Dovy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Pessie, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. And Brighton, yes.
Resolution passes. Number 20. resolution for the same thing with a different date of February 15, 2024. Is there a motion? I'll make a motion. Second. Motion made second. Roll call,
please. Clark, yes. Doy, yes. Galloway, yes. He Yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. Resolution passes. Number 21, the same resolution for
2022 but extended for 6 months to August 15th, 2025. So second motion made second. Roll call, please. Clark, yes. Doy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes.
Pessie, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. Resolution passes. Number 22 is approval for the extension for the 2023 SST a carver city transit plan uh
for 6 months to August 15, 2025. So second motion made roll call, please. Clark, yes. Doy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heir,
yes. Timbers, yes. Right. Yes. Resolution passes. Number 23. Resolution authorizing contract for the purchase of fitness court materials to national fitness
court campaign through the NJSA 4A. A lot of numbers. Extraordinary unspecifiable services. It's very big questions. Yeah. What? Yes. I'd like to I'd like to table this mayor.
She's aware of it. I I I know she is, but I had some questions. Okay. Um, so the fitness court, you can basically only purchase the actual court through the dimensional fitness campaign. They're the ones that do it. So an extraordinary extraordinary
unspecifiable service basically says you can only get it from this one source. Um, that's how I checked with a couple other towns. they kind of did the same resolution I had used um staff or their purchasing agents used to work at DCA. So I felt good confident was getting it
from her. Um and I did run it since we're also funding besides the Horizon grant, we're also using um a small cities grant to fund the balance of it. So we also run it by um staff there and they were also okay with it. Um so
that's what and the US is. So, what is the uh liability for the city? I mean, we're using grants to fund this entire project. Yes. Okay. And what's the difference of 170? Is small cities or um
the small cities will probably be somewhere between 150 and 120 and 150 depending what the quotes for the install and the um Okay. Oh, what do I have? I have I have the amount on here. 70 I think is the amount I have for in
here right in the resolution and then the only other the other two additional things there'll be a concrete pad and um the install. So those are estimated I would say like 25 to 35 each. So okay small cities will want those too. Pine
lens doesn't have to be involved in this with the concrete below the um area of disturbance and this there's still they still have a wall with this, right? And this going in Rotary Park, right? Am I correct with this? This is supposed to go in Rotary
Park and there's a wall. Yeah, like Any other questions? Is there a motion? Motion. Second. Motion made in second. Roll call, please. Clark, yes. Doy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Hessie, no.
Kenir, yes. Timbers. Timbers, he goes to, right? Yeah. As long as the citizens ain't paying for it. Timbers. Yes. Yes. I don't know what's going on.
Yes. All right. Number 24, resolution to establish change fund for the A Park City Lake of $250. Motion. I'll make a motion. Second. Motion being seconded.
Roll call. Clark, yes. Doy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Pressy, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. Resolution passes number 25. Resolution
adopting green building practices for civic, commercial, and residential buildings. Motion made second. Questions? This this is um this what we spoke about before as far as uh it's just the checklist
that'll be the developmental file. Yep. Just educate the builders that there are green options when building and that they should consider them. Roll call, please. Clark, yes. Doy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Passie, yes.
Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Right. Yeah, that's fine. I was just thinking about Rick like, you know, it's like it's really up to the homeowner, whatever they they decide that they want to build the houses with because like we have no control over. I mean, like you're building a speck home. No.
Mason, we asked them to fill out the checknet list, but nothing on the checklist is mandatory. They don't do any of the practices. We just want to raise their awareness that they have options. I got you. Yeah. Okay. Number 26 on the agenda, introduce
ordinance number 3, 2025, amending the code of a Carver City, chapter 170, land use and development to include the green development checklist. Motion second.
Motion made and seconded. So in favor and then advertise the notice of introduction. One eye. Just one eye. Let's do that again. All in favor? I
Okay. Um, advertise motion. Motion. Second. All in favor? I passes. Number 27. Introduce the ordinance number four,
2025, amending the code of Aarver City, repeating, repealing and replacing chapter 213, article 3 concerning vacant and abandoned properties. Is there a motion? Motion
second. A motion and second to introduce this ordinance. All in favor? Opposed? I opposed. It was late. Sorry. Motion passes. Uh motion to advertise introduction
Hamilton Gazette for public hearing on May 2. Second. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I. Motion passes. Number 28. Introduce ordinance number five supplementing the
general code of aarter city chapter 235 streets and sidewalks to establish rules and regulations for advertising and amending chapter 170 land use and development section
170-17. Chair could you Yeah. Can somebody explain this one first? The advertisement, right? So, I can explain the advertisement. It's basically providing a time limit or um articulating a time limit for when um
advertisement signs um not advertisement signs, I'm sorry, advertisement signs are prohibited, but when you have like um during campaign season, political signs and those kinds of things. So, it's basically a a signed ordinance. Um, but they use I got so basically like say
somebody came in to work on my house and I had their business not on my property. There's a limit then makes it there'll be a limit to how long it could be on there on my property. Yeah. But we wouldn't have authority on private property just on public. Oh yeah, that's what I meant. On my private property I could have it up there as long as I
want. Right. Yeah. This doesn't Okay. And and Carl was very the easy way of making sure. Yeah. Yeah. Making sure that that was the case. Is there a motion to introduce motion? I'll make a second. Motion made second. All in favor? I think he was an Yeah, that was an
Okay. Motion to advertise introduction Hamilton Gazette on May 14th for a public hearing on May 22nd. Motion second. Motion made second. All in favor? by advances. Number 29, introduce
ordinance number six of 2025 amending the code of a Carver City chapter 178 on littering in section 178-9 titled construction sites cleanliness. Yeah, basically it's it
helps with the cleanliness of the construction site to make sure that the contractor or property owner is keeping their property clean while they're doing construction. It also um allows them or it gives them um a guideline of where dumpsters can be placed, how long they can be placed, and those kinds of
things. And so, um, the committee discussed giving the property owner or contractor 30 days to have a dumpster with an additional 30 days within a a 60-day period so that it's not there forever. All right. See, this is where I
kind of confuse because I do this for a living and I deal with dumpsters all the time. Um, I've never heard of this. Um, as long as you have a permit, but technically Edgar City has no ordinance for a dumpster period. I brought this up. I I know I just saw that today. This
is it now. Yeah. But and I brought that up a while ago, but when we work down on the shores, as long as we have in the short towns, we have to have a permit for it to be on the street and it has to be covered with the tarp and it has to be coned off with safety goats. Same way. There's no limitations on when and
where or how long it needs to be there. As long as we pay for the permit every month. Margate on the other hand you got to be off the street on 38 from by by Memorial Day to Labor Day only in Margate for some reason. I don't know why but this the dumpster has to be off
the street. Now if the dumpster's on my property I could have that dumpster as long as I need it there because if I'm building a custom home it takes nine nine to 12 months to build a custom home. So you're not going to have a custom home done in 30 days. It's not going to happen. So, those are the kinds
of things that we could work out within this ordinance, but right now it's two 30-day periods so that there's not a dumpster there. We're trying to prevent, but then you also want we're worried about littering. So, basically, if you're telling a builder that has a
project that takes six to nine months to build that they only have six days for a dumpster, I'm telling you, you think the the construction sites are bad now? Wait till you see when they don't have a dumpster. if you file for an extension. That's what I mean really file for extensions and stuff. That's why I don't
don't understand. We're trying to regulate the same dumpster, right? So, what we're what we're experiencing now is dumpsters that are full that stay in front of people's properties. I got what you're saying. Philadelphia, I can tell you right now for weeks. Yeah. See, usually I'll tell you right now,
it's so much not the city. It's the dumpster companies that are calling us like, "Listen, hey, you have this you had this dumpster for a month and a half now and it hasn't been dumped or moved." I you got to come get I We got to come get this. Especially in the summertime when it gets bit. I mean, not so I shouldn't say the summer time, but the
winter time when summer's over with and the dumpsters are pretty much scattered everywhere and it's a small usage. You know what I mean? They want their dumpsters because they're not making money with that dumpster sitting there. you know that dumpster they, you know, they charge $300 and some dollars for the dumpster fee and then whatever the
weight of the dumpster is. So they want that dumpster back as soon as possible. So it's not so much the city that we deal with. It's more the dumpster company have to deal with that. They want that dumpster. Like I explained that to the code committee as well as the police department that we don't really have to push for the dumpster company. Oh yeah. They're going to be
they want to turn it over. Exactly. They're losing more money as it's sitting there than they are, you know, than them moving it around. I think what we're trying to prevent with this ordinance, first of all, it can keep the site clean. Construction, but then the other thing is so that there's not a dumpster there for an extended period of
time. Um, but I didn't get a chance. I saw it when I was at work today and I kind of just kind of glanced over it, but I didn't see anything about like with a tarp over the dumpster. I didn't see anything about like safety cones. I think we didn't put it we didn't put the tarp in there, but the tarp has to go go on when it gets when it hits the road
because then it's an uns. Well, no, the the tarp we cover the dumpsters every night when we're done the done the job site. The dumpster has to be covered or we'll get fined by the city. We put barricades in here. We put cones in here. We get reflected, but we didn't put the Yeah, we have to have a tarp on that dumpster. The tarp actually will
help. That's what helps the littering because what happens especially down in the short people driving down the road, oh, there's a dumpster. Let me go home and get mom. That's how it kind of all started and throw it in that especially in the summertime. Like you would have, you know, you would if you had a dumpster on the street or on the
property, it all be it became the citywide dump site because you would have it that's why we never had a dumpster dumped on Friday night. If it was full on Friday, we kept it that way and had it picked up on Monday because if we would have got it dumped on Friday, you come back there on Monday, it's going to be full. And um so but the
tarp basically one helps with that but also on the real windy nights on the shore and everything you come back and there's this you know debris's blowing all over the place. So I mean with this consideration it may need to go back to the code committee. I I don't you know I'm just I mean I'm just saying that I
mean I don't know we could say introduce change to the ordinance asking them to put on a tarp. Well, couldn't that go in the permit which is coming up on the next meeting? No, I think that's a minor change, but then also Mason
suggested that, you know, a house takes six to nine months to build and I'm not really sure. I think there should be at least an opportunity to have extensions cuz I can tell you right now, I mean, if they're building a house, you know, a custom home, I mean, a spec home usually got about three or four months. And a custom
home, you'd be there anywhere from six to nine months, depending on how detailed these customers want to get. But yeah, but I can tell you right now that dumpster that's there, it's not going to be the same dumpster 6 months down the road. It's going to be at least a third or fourth one. You know, change like that, we would have to take it back
to committee. I'm not sure. I don't I don't know. You know, I I won't make the ruling whether it's a substantial change or not. So, no, I propose that we should table it and and ask the committee for us to meet again to to go over this um in light of what Councilman Wright has said um for us to consider the timing
wise for for it. Um the extension in the extension period. Yeah. And I can tell you right now this cover table this it specifically says that this is for dumpsters that are in the street, not on private property. Mhm. Well, so this is
for the street and it's it's also meant to protect the street is definitely has to be tarped in safety dump for us. Philadelphia Avenue to be specific. Well, any any dumpster that grows on the road, you know what I mean? Has to be has to be tarped in and safety. You can
add tarp if that's just a minor change. But if Yeah, I mean, if the council's comfortable with the two 30-day period. No, I'm fine. Cuz like I said, I kind of only glanced at I didn't get a chance to fully read it. But when I saw it, you know, you could only have a dumpster
there for two 30 periods. I thought you meant, you know, continuous peri, you know, not the same dumpster, but you know, because I wouldn't even be thinking about the same dumpster being there for 30 days. Same dumpster. It's just that you would have a 30-day period to have a dumpster in that location and then another 30-day
period right after it. Well, Carol Clark is on you're on that committee, correct? And she's recommended tableabling it to make some changes. Can I and I just think I just think I at least there should be somewhere on there for extension or something that just because
not all projects are going to take 60 you know 60 days I can tell you that you know there second okay that takes precedent. So all in favor I so this motion is tabled till um the committee can review and bring it back.
Yes, it was number 20 million. All right. So, we don't have to advertise I make a motion second. All in favor? No. Clark, yes. Joy, yes. Galloway, yes.
Ice, yes. Pessie, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. Okay. Number 31 is the mayor and council comments. The mayor's not here. You have comments? No. Uh, just so everybody knows, um, believe
it or not, football season and cheer seasoning has been here and signups going to be starting on May 14th from 6:30 to 7:30 at the concession stand every Wednesday night until June, what did I say? 24th. 24th. Um, and then
football camp and cheer camp will begin. Um, it'll be here before you know it. It seems like yesterday we were just on the football field, but leg of an eye, but um, so that's pretty much it. Is that all I have right now? Thank you, Councilwoman Gall.
Nothing. I just want to um I don't know if it's appropriate, but plus our new pope, our new American pope, um, I just want to say one thing. We just kind of the Rotary I forgot to mention this uh came to a decision with the Halloween parade. It's going back to
Friday. It's going to be on Friday uh the 24th, just so you know. I know it's really early, but I thought I'd mention it. And the other thing is I'd like to say happy Mother's Day to everyone going have a wonderful weekend.
Thank you, Councilwoman Clark. Um just happy Mother's Day to all the mothers both of babies and fur babies. Um and uh to encourage the citizens to please give your mother a rest on Sunday. Um you know, it's it's a full-time job and
Sunday is the one day I think that we all deserve an extra hour or two of sleep. That's speaking from experience. Yeah. Just happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. Happy Mother's Day. And I would say the
same thing. Happy Mother's Day. Uh next is uh public comment. Anyone wish to be heard on anything? Anyone? Is there a motion to adjourn? I'll make a motion. Second. Motion made second.
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