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Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of the United States of America and >> to the republic for which >> for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Welcome to the June 11th,

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2026 Aver City Council meeting in compliance with the open public meetings act of the state of New Jersey. Adequate notice of this meeting of the AC Carver City Council was provided in the following manner was posted on our bulletin board. It's posted on the A

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Carver City website and notice was sent to the Hamilton Gazette in the Atlantic City Press. Roll call, please. >> Mayor Chimpetti >> here. >> Mr. Dovy. Mr. Dovy, can you hear us?

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I'll go back to him. Uh, Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> here. >> Hessie, >> here. >> Kenir, >> here. >> Ortiz. Mr. Ortiz, >> he's not on. >> Okay. Sen

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>> not on. >> Timbers >> here. >> And right. Mr. Dovy, can you hear me yet? I see him. He's there. >> He's there. >> Rick, you're muted.

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>> Oh, Councilman Ortiz just joined also. >> Okay. >> Okay. Rick's there. Whether you can hear us or not, that's another story. All right. Uh, number four is public comment. I don't see any public here.

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>> Hello, >> Michael. There's Michael Miller. Hello. It's >> for agenda items only. Anyone wish to be heard from the public? >> Can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Yes.

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Um, my name is Michelle Madison and I reside at 509th Paris and I want to know what specific contaminants or hazardous conditions are being investigated or

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remediated under resolution number 18. >> I couldn't hear what you were saying. Could you speak a little louder? >> It was broken. It was broken up. I I heard >> they asked what contaminants for number 18, which is the Moss Mill landfill.

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>> Yes. >> Okay. Can you uh can you help us out there, Ryan? >> Sure. So, the city has been applying for and receiving HDSRF grant funds to investigate uh an old landfill that was on that site. Um, I actually just uh

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requested a briefing with GZA, who is the environmental consultant who's doing that uh investigation work um for an update. I literally just reached out to them uh earlier today. So, I I don't have a specific list of contaminants at the moment. I mean, I it's an old landfill, so there, you know, there's

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any of a number of possibilities, but um from what we understand from previous investigations, it was primarily household petrusible waste. Um so, there hasn't been anything flagged yet to my knowledge. um that would be of any significant concern um you know other

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than just standard household trash. So uh I'll know more after that briefing with GZA um but as of right now um you know they're they're doing the investigation work and I don't have any um results at this point. >> Okay. Is this the same testing that was

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done behind the gentleman's house on Hamburg a he said he saw somebody out there. Did we ever get information about that testing? So, we we asked him about who those individuals were or what company they may have been with or or what have you. I never got any information. So, I don't know if it's

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people that were working with that that consultant or as a subconsultant to them on this specific investigation or if it was other unrelated work. Um I can tell you that the focus of the landfill and the investigation um at least that I'm aware of is not in that area. Um the

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landfill is primarily over near Moss Mill Road within let's say about 250 to 300 feet of Moss Mill into the property. It starts closer to Moss Mill and it goes about that deep maybe maybe a little bit deeper into the property. The old landfill uh area had been delineated years ago at a little

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over six acres. Um, so I'm not aware of any reason there would be landfill investigation work going on that far, but um, sometimes depending on the groundwater flow direction, you do have to go, um, you know, downstream of it. Uh, there there is kind of an what I'll call an intermittent stream in between

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there. So I don't I don't see a reason that they would have been over there, but I I can't tell you for sure because I don't know who was there. >> Okay. Well, thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Anyone else?

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Okay, seeing none, uh, number five, approve the minutes 21st. Is there a motion? >> Make that motion. >> I make a motion. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. All in favor to approve May 21st minutes. >> I

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>> I >> motion passes. Oh, opposed. Okay. Uh, mayor number six. Okay. Um, we did get a bulletproof vest

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grant for $2,189.17 for the police department. Um, wanted to let everybody know the clothing drive for Coalition for the Safe Community along with the police department is still going on. So, there's a whole list of things that you can donate on the Egg

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Harbor City official Facebook page. And a reminder, uh, well, this probably like three churches in the fire department will be ringing their bells on July 4th, 13 times for the 13 original colonies at

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2:50 on the 4th of July. So, be be on alert for that. Fireworks and drone show will be July 18th. And Cedar Creek Track was at the lake today for their um, banquet. They had a

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great time. and the Cedar Creek seniors will be at the lake on Monday for their annual Cedar um senior picnic. I do have a report from the chief. She could not be here this evening, so I'll go through her report. Um

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we have a total of 14 crimes and offenses. uh four fraud, one simple assault, one stolen motor vehicle, and eight theft. Traffic related, 13 motor vehicle accidents,

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two pedestrian spot checks, 40 traffic stops, and that's a total of 55 sumances. It's Am I Are you getting a back like am I like echoing because I'm hearing an echo

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>> a little bit. Yeah. >> Don't know why. Let me try turning my speaker down a bit. >> There's somebody's mic. >> That isn't >> what I do.

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>> I think it's fixed now. I think someone wasn't muted. >> Okay. Um, no DUI arrest this couple weeks. Uh, total arrests for DUI this year, 10. and she has 1,3

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uh calls for service and various things. Um we had the first graders there yesterday on their walking tour. They had a great time. Chief kept them busy and we visited the uh memorial for the 911

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in the front of the building. We usually go through the city building with them, but because of the ADA repairs that are going on, we couldn't. But Chief did a great job keeping them busy and that's not easy when you have 45 first graders. Um Chief ran a two-mile

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run for the torch run, the Special Olympics fund raise raiser and there was some crash 2 training done and finding words training. Um upcoming graduation on Cedar Creek is 618

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and Egg Harbor City Community School is 619 and ACIT is 623. And that's all I have. Thanks. >> Okay. Thank you, mayor. That takes up seven and eight. Number

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nine, CFO report. >> Nothing for me. Thank you. >> Okay. Number 10, city clerk. >> Nothing. >> Jackie, >> nothing. Uh, number 11, city attorney. >> No update. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Number 12, Ryan. Engineer. >> Yeah. So, I I'll keep brief. We have uh one item on the agenda tonight is um award of the IBank Stormwater Management uh improvements project. Um I'll I'll

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explain. We had a a bidder who the low bidder on the project provided a bid um that the solicitor's office deemed to be non-responsive. So I can let Chris go into that if he wants to. Um but we are recommending award uh of the base bid to asphalt paving systems in the amount of

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$2,271,700. And the award would be contingent upon um approval from IBank who is the funding source for the project. uh they have a you have to close on the loan for this project before June 30th uh or else it kicks to the next fiscal year. So

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it's it's normally we would wait for their concurrence and then award it. But since there's only one more meeting and there's not a lot of um wiggle room there, our recommendation is to award it now uh contingent upon their approval and then if we have to um we could always award it again, resend the

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original award and award it again at next meeting. Um if if you know IBEX comes back and tells us that's what we need to do, but in in abundance of caution, I think we're better off to award a contingent upon their approval rather than wait. >> Question.

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>> Sure. What does um nonresponsive mean? >> So, uh Chris, do you want to go into that or do you want me to sort of >> Sure. Um so, since this is being funded by the IBAC, the IBACK has specific uh amounts um limits on what uh bidding

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responsible biders can can put in for. And that was clearly set forth in the bid uh specs that Ryan had put out. and the low bidder exceeded the limit for mobilization um by about approximately $10,000. When

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we notified them that we believe that their bid was non-compliant, they said, "Well, you can just shift the money around and do a couple other things and and clearly you can't do that." So, uh, we made the determination based on the law, um, that they were non-compliant

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and that they had to be rejected, um, based on material defect in the bid. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions about that project? >> No, I'm good. >> Okay. So, uh, I'll I'll move on to the the ADA and city hall project. the

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reason we're kind of all on Zoom. Um so as as we got into the project, uh we had two things that kind of set us back a little bit. One was the primary. Um we kind of realized that we had to get cleaned up and and get out of there. So they lost a couple days to that. And then we had an issue come up um as they

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started taking things apart. There was about 3/4 of an inch less than what we thought we had for clearance between handrails. Um, so we wouldn't have gotten the full 36 inch clearance between the proposed handrails to be fully ADA compliant. Um, under normal circumstances, we may have, you know,

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kind of let that go, but given this is DCA funded, and the whole purpose is ADA compliance, um, you know, we decided the right thing to do was to modify the project a little bit. So the the wall where the end is, um, where Lisa normally sits, the mayor usually sits. Um, we actually need to peel back the

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carpet and sort of shave back, uh, the wall support there to just give it that extra. We're going to take it back a little more than 3/4 of an inch um to make sure that we have that that 3 to six inches between handrails so that the project is fully ADA compliant. We're done. Um the contractor has already uh

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replaced the uh service counters at the clerk's office, at the tax assessor's office, and at the building department office. Uh the the bathroom renovations are underway. I think they started with the tile work today. Um so that's that's progressing pretty well. Um, again, just a little bit of a setback there with

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what we ended up finding in the uh in the council chambers. Um, we >> will we be ready at the next meeting? >> Yeah, absolutely. So, we the other thing we did was uh we actually authorized um when we when we took the desk out, the

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the carpet was actually cut around those little desk supports that it wasn't they didn't like remove the desk and put the carpet under and then put it back on top. So, we're actually having to to redo some of the carpet underneath the desk. But yeah, we we anticipate all of that work should be completed within the next week and week and a half. We should be done well in advance of the uh next

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council meeting. >> Good. >> Brian, will will Laura's desk be adjusted or is it staying as is just like Meg and Jackie's? >> The the 30-inch height is um what was selected based off of the description

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that was given to us of how the employees would interact with the public. Um, I believe we had some conversations about um, you know, how how they'll interact. It might change if if they're going to be interacting with the public for a lengthy period of time. Uh, it might be better to provide a chair at that that front area so they

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can utilize it more like a desk. Um, kind of as a workstation when interacting with the public. Um, so I I understand it's, you know, it is a big change. Um, but the idea was to make the the accessible or the the facility fully accessible. So now that we've accomplished that, you know, then it's circling back to figure out um what

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accommodations can be made to to provide for better ergonomic functionality for the employees. >> So it's not finalized at this point. So the mayor's the mayor's suggestion may >> should still take place. The the desk that kind of goes up and down.

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>> Oh yeah. Well, so right. So, what the this project is, you know, the a contractor building things, and we're not we're not going to modify the counter height at this point, but yeah, uh a a pop-up desk. There's lots of other accommodations that can be made to to try to accommodate uh you know, ergonomic functionality for the

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employees. Um but but functionally, you know, we we've built a an ADA compliant front desk >> that the public can interact with. So yeah, I I'm I I totally understand and and you know appreciate that there'll be sort of a period to feel out what the best way for uh the employees to

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function in that space is. I realize it's a big change and you know uh it'll probably take a little time to sort that out, but yeah, a popped up desk or a chair at that location or or something like that to accommodate um you know the employee functionality I think is uh probably a good idea.

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>> Okay, thank you. >> Wanted to add some something too. Um, I was told that the big uh table that we have in the ch council chambers in the das there is on its last leg literally. Um, I think that

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we're going to have to order a new one. Jody, I don't know if you're aware of that or not. >> Someone mentioned the other day. >> So, >> oh, we can look into that. >> I want to look into that. Mayor, is that the is that the mail room

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that you're talking about? >> The the brown desk in front of where we sit at city council meetings. >> Oh. Oh, okay. Yes. >> The the table where the uh staff typically sits. >> Okay. >> We don't want that to fall on your feet. >> I appreciate you. >> Get some new chairs while you're looking

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at the desk. >> Thank you. >> Anything else, Ryan? Um, we we got approval to bid the bathroom improvements out at the the lake, the bathrooms near the concession stand. And uh I sent some additional

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information to Triad today. Uh we had to put together like a little map showing where we're proposing to utilize the the ADA uh compliance funds for that we got for the lake. Since we're not going to be able to do the path right now, um we're splitting the application of the Pineelands Commission to try to advance

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uh the parking pad that we we're trying to put out there. Uh we're we're removing the uh accessible path and we we'll pursue that separately outside of uh you know this application and this funding. And then we'll we're applying to DCA to utilize the leftover funds after we do the one bathroom to do the

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other set of bathrooms and provide ADA accessibility to the store and the service counter uh at the concession stand. So, we had to give them like a little map and a description of exactly what the improvements would be so that they could justify that, you know, the improvements are like and similar to what was contained in the original application. Um, you know, to try to be

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fair to other applicants. >> Okay. >> So, that's I have a question about that. >> Sure. Um, I've had a few people approach me

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um about the um the mat going around and they're under the assumption because ADA approved it that it can be used no matter what Pineland says and I've tried to explain to them that it's a Pineland's decision even though ADA

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approved it that if Pineland says no then it has to be no >> but there's a few rumors going around that it's basically the city holding back on putting that in that it's not Pineland. It's if it's ADA approved,

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then it's Pineland approved. Pinelands approved. >> So, we've we've had >> Yeah. >> Oh, sorry. Go ahead. So, we we've had a couple >> to make everybody aware that that's go that that's going around that we're basically holding back on the on the the

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trail the map the map going around and it's not a Pineland decision. I'm I'm pretty sure if it was up to the city that matting would have been down last year. But um >> Well, that's what I said, but I just wanted, you know, to make everybody aware that that, you know, >> well, I I'll share from my perspective

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to whomever listens to these that um we applied to the commission and they sat on our application and didn't really know what to do with it. And I spoke to with the reviewer and she indicated as much like this is near a body of water. We get applications for trails all the time. We're concerned that if we approve

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this, it's going to proliferate and it'll be everywhere. And we don't really understand what the ecological impacts are yet. So, we want a little time to talk about it internally. >> I I'm not I'm not saying anything that they told me is is the right or or you know, I believe it or whatever, but all

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I can do is convey what I was told. So, they they indicated that we met we went up went up to the commission and met with them in person about five or six subjects. That was one of them that we spent a considerable amount of time on. So coming out of that meeting, we scheduled an in-person meeting with myself and uh one of the reviewers, the

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reviewer who's working on that application specifically, who has a lot of threatened endangered species experience, kind of lives nearby and and spends a lot of time in that area. Just on a personal level, she indicated that she was in support of our application and thought that this was a great

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solution um and hoped that the commission would look favorably upon it. and I met with her in October and we had that discussion standing there at the lake. Um, we talked through all like the nuance of it. I explained, look, we're on the top of a dam. It doesn't matter if I put concrete here and there's no water going down anyway because it's

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solid clay. That's what a dam is for. Um, so she was on board with not only the the um the material and the idea of it, but obviously that the location thought it was appropriate. Um unfortunately she's only one voice and

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there are other people up there and after some internal deliberations she advised that um the powers that be up there um decided that they weren't comfortable with it and they would not approve it as is and that we could go through um the process to develop an

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MOA, a memorandum of agreement which could take 18 months or so. Um or we could, you know, apply to them to move forward with like some kind of study uh to demonstrate how the material might work and how it would, you know, what the impacts would be. All of which would

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take 18 to 24 months minimum to be able to be allowed to install the material. Uh we're already two plus years into having this funding and DCA is the kind of funding that comes out every year and they'll give it to you every year if you qualify if you spent the prior funds.

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So, not being able to spend the funds from that round of funding has already impacted our ability to get funds um for the the current fiscal year. So, we need to find a way to spend this money and um they're not letting us do the path anytime soon. So, that's why my

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recommendation was to shift the funds to other facilities which would be eligible and to continue to pursue the path, but not to jam up this funding for it because we're going to continue to lose money if we don't spend the money we have now. So, I'm I'm not suggesting we abandon pursuing this path. I think it's

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a a worthwhile project. I think it's a great compromise from an environmental standpoint. It's no disturbance. It's no um you know, there's no storm water runoff from it. It's very pvious. Um and I think we'll get there eventually, but it's going to take too long to use in this round of funding. So, I think we

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continue to pursue it and once we get it, we can apply to DCA again because they obviously think it's a f a worthwhile project. So, I think they would fund it again in the future in the next round. But we got to spend the money we have now. >> Thank you for the clarification. I will

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let the um people who have approached me, let me know to turn to watch the council meeting so they can get >> give them the link to this. >> Yes, absolutely. >> Yeah. And if if anyone has any like legitimate questions and they weren't answered here or they want to talk about

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it, feel free to have them call me. You'll have my cell phone number. >> All right. Thanks, Ryan. I appreciate it. >> Of course. I I just want to say one thing about this. I've been complaining about this for several meetings. Um that's the most ridiculous thing I've

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heard coming out of the Pinelands. And I like the Pinelands. I'm a fan. These these beach mats are on every beach from Sandy Hook to Cape May. So if it doesn't affect the ocean, it doesn't affect our

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lake. Additionally, these these things are located in Lenipe Park and in Hamilton, I believe. So, other other communities are using these mats. They're temporary. They're pvious and they come up at the end of the season.

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You store them. There's no impact to the environment. I think we should put that in a letter coming from maybe council that to the Pinelands asking them to like reconsider. This is a ridiculous ruling. So, that's just my two cents.

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>> Thank you. >> Yeah, I don't I don't disagree with anything you said. >> Anything else, Ryan? >> Uh, no. Not unless anybody has any questions at the moment. I figured I'd keep it >> not to prolong the discussion. >> The reason they didn't want to give it

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to us, if I recall, and I think you were there, Nette, they said that we would be the first ones in the Pinelands to use it, and they didn't want to make a mistake. Well, then they did it illegally. >> Maybe bring that to their attention.

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>> That may be the case, but I mean, I don't know what those other towns do and what their environmental regulations are. I'm sure they're all in the land. >> If they're Pineeland, if they're, you know, in the Pineelands, they have to go through the same process as we do. So, either they're not in the Pineelands or

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they did it illegally. >> They're both in the Pineland. >> They're both in the Pine Lands. So, >> it's ridiculous. >> Well, we we follow up. Your idea of a letter is a pretty good idea. I think uh it's worth a shot.

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>> So, we'll we'll work on that. >> Draft it up and then I'll sign it. >> Okay. >> I feel for no other reason, it'll be good to propel this the next when you know, for the next year, you know, it'll move. >> And they don't have to be blue. They could be tan. You won't even see them.

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But like like Ryan said, we're not going to get any more small cities. >> I agree that we have to move forward with and keep the funding and make sure we get our money. >> Maybe next year. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, I I I suggested to there's there's two primary vendors of these

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products. They're both very similar. I I suggested to both of them that they should be contacting the commission and advocating for their products. Yeah. >> Because >> they would do a ton of business if they got it approved because you can't do anything else. Everyone wants to put pads around lakes and no one can do it and that would be a huge breakthrough.

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Uh so it' be a big win for the the manufacturers as well, >> right? >> Okay. Well, Ryan, thank you. Um I did jump over number seven, but we'll go to number seven now. Um I have a list here.

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Uh we're not going to go by the way we see. So I'm going to call on Mr. Dovy first to um give a committee report. He's muted. You got to unmute. >> Are you there, Ray? >> Yes,

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>> I'm here. Yes. Um, I have no report. >> Okay. Thank you. Mrs. Galloway. >> Um, yeah. I just wanted to mention that the preserving the har harvest session that was scheduled for Saturday has been

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postponed until July 11th because of the council chambers isn't operational right now. Also, um for the safety committee, I sent out an email late today to uh the chief and the mayor and the safety

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committee about an issue. Um get back to me on that. I don't think it needs a meeting, but I'd like to get their thoughts on what I proposed. already read your email, Nette, and they do >> I don't think we should talk about it publicly because of a safety issue. >> Well,

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that's incorrect information. >> So, um, and then, um, so email me and I I'll I'll talk to you about it. Um, and then the other thing is the green team is involved in several planning activities. In fact, they're all bunching up at the same time during the

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summer here. uh climate change hazard vulnerability study, heat island assessment mitigation plan, and complete and green streets programs. All three of these programs require public input and input is important to get before it's

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adopted. So, if anybody is interested, please check our website, Sustainable EHC, and uh our Facebook page and the city's Facebook page for these meetings that are going to be coming up. um one is online only and um we did put out a

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survey the other day on the uh uh I think it was the heat island assessment mitigation plan. So, you know, if anybody from the public is concerned about the environment in a harbor city and our what's going to be included in our master plan, now's the time to speak

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up, not after it's adopted. So, get on that if you're interested. Um and that's all I have. >> Great. Thank you. Uh, Mrs. Heist, >> I have nothing. Sorry, I couldn't unmute. I have nothing.

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>> Okay. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Ortiz, >> I have nothing for the schools, but for the parks, I spoke to uh, President Kenir and we were discussing the um, pavilion in the Lincoln Park. So, pretty

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soon I I wasn't able to get the uh pictures and everything uploaded in time uh you know, work, but I I'm going to go out there, take some photos and come up with something to propose. Uh pretty soon I'm going to make a motion that we we take it down. Um and then we'll have

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to do something else as far as u putting something in the center. Something I was going to want to go with for the center of it was a pavilion so we can um kind of get back to hosting some stuff there in the center of our park. We have a beautiful park and I think we start

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utilizing it again. Um so I don't have anything proposed yet, but uh hopefully by the next council meeting I can have something for everybody to look at. >> Uh Tanner, can I comment on that? If you look at um Archway Green, >> we have a little concrete stage in there

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>> that might be appropriate for that, you know. Um we already have the electric there and >> Yep. That's exactly what me and uh >> you should check that out, you know, and see if you like that. >> Absolutely. I had seen a concrete pad

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would be good as well because then we have way more time with it. It won't break. They can't break it. There's not much you can do with it. Um, but yeah, there was there was a couple things discussed. So, like I said, in the next meeting, hopefully I have something for you guys to all look at. So, thank you.

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>> So, are you proposing that we take it down now and wait for >> I I would like to I would like to >> I I have five volunteers that'll take it down. >> So, if you want to make that a motion, we can we can do that. I would like to

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make it a motion that we uh take down the pavilion in in the park. >> Is there a second to his motion? >> I'll second. >> Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Um Jackie, we could probably do a roll call

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on this. All right. >> Okay. All right. You ready? >> Yes. >> Okay. Dovy? >> Yes. >> Galloway? Reluctantly, yes. >> Heist. >> Following the net. Very reluctantly.

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Yes. >> Pressy. >> Yes. >> Kener. >> Yes. >> Ortiz. >> Yes. >> And Timbers. >> Yes. >> Okay. Motion passes. We'll work on the

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process of taking that down. All right. Um, now Mr. Sen told me that he had a a commitment with his daughter that he couldn't make tonight's meeting. Uh, Mr. Timbers committee report.

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>> Nothing on report. >> Okay. And Mr. Wright, is he here? I don't see him on. Okay. Uh and as far as u finance redevelopment, we've we've had a number

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of meetings um discussing the same topics that we've been working on. Um we had a meeting with Mr. Saker this past week and his his project is he said

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pretty much approved by the Pelands except for uh the landfill closure part and they're waiting for the details uh of that before they give their final approval. So once once he gets that letter, he can

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purchase the property. U there's various other things that I can uh I can fill you in on as time and things go forward. All right. So number 13. >> Wait, Joe, I have a question. Did

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anything happen with um the property next to McDonald's? Is there any other movement on that >> from the gentleman that owns Harbor Plaza? The only thing I know, we passed the uh ordinance to change the restriction of

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the 1,00 ft. So, I know that um we've been in contact with the owner of the the property, >> right? >> Randazzo, >> Vince Randazzo, and his thought is to

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put a um we actually had a meeting with him on Z on Zoom. his idea is to put a fast food place there. Um, so we're we're trying to suggest certain things. He says he has contacts with a lot of different fast food uh companies, so

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we'll see what happens. We we haven't heard anything specifically at this point, but that's his that's what he wants to do there. >> And has he done anything with um Harbor um the Harbor Plaza? Is there anything

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that he's I know he said he was going to do a bunch of things to re you know revamp it. >> Yes. Um there was a discussion about that. Again, no specifics. I think if he's he's going to do any uh big changes, he's going to have to get

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permits to do it. I know he wants to put solar on the roof. And u we are uh we are having a meeting on Monday with Remington and Bernick. talk about the White Horse Pike Carter and also

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Philadelphia Avenue and to talk about a a long-term redevelopment plan for those what we call the T corridor, White Horse Pike and Philadelphia Avenue and identify all the properties on those two

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areas and look at who owns them, what the value of these properties are, But, uh, we're we're working with, uh, someone in Remington and Bernick's office. Uh Ryan,

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you can talk about this probably more detailed than I am, but um we want to put a a comprehensive plan together of what the Main Street and White Horse Pike could look like and should look like going forward and have

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a a concrete plan on paper to kind of give us the guidelines to get to the point where we think it would be uh really set the city off the way that we all ride down the White Horse Pike and

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we see the eyes that are there. We see the eyes on Philadelphia Avenue, the empty storefronts and things that we need to improve. And we need a plan. We don't, you know, we all say we'd like to see this happen or that happen. Uh it's one thing to say, it's another thing to

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put it on paper and and put a plan together. And that's that's our goal at this point. The and anyone's input is welcome. So, we're going to meet with the professionals and come up with ideas there uh from from the planners and the

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engineers and then uh once we have something in place, we'll we'll share that even as the process is going on, we could share it and and get everyone's input. So, I'm sure everybody has ideas of what they'd like to see on the White

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Horse Pike and Philadelphia Avenue, but um again, we we keep saying things that we would like to see, but nothing's actually on paper and that's that's the plan here. >> Are is there any plans to meet with the

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owners of these properties on the White Horse Pike like we were going to do? Well, that would be the next phase. And then it it would depend on what the plans are and and the ideas that come up and the things that >> you know it it a lot of what we want to

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do is going to cost money and we're going to need investment. We're going to need grants or loans or there's a lot of things that go into redeveloping the main street and the Whiters Pike. So, um yes, I would say we would >> a lot of it has to do with them just

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cleaning up, right? cleaning up their the properties on the white horse bike and that too. >> Yeah, but we want to take >> we can get together with code once we get code u committee back together. >> Totally agree with that. Yeah, and cleaning it up is definitely something

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we need to do and we have to do it. Um however, we want to go further than that. We want to come up with ideas and and concrete plans of and then really go after, you know, look for funding sources, look for

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investment from outside sources and and try to redevelop the area that will benefit the residents of a harbor city and bring uh gradables to our downtown and to our main white horse bike corridor and not have the eyes that we

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have now. So, I mean, that's a lot to say, but go ahead, Ryan. >> Yeah, to to expand a little bit on your point. I think um with the exception of the Waw Wa property and the gateway redevelopment area, I think the approach the approach has largely been reactive

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to trying to work with people that show up at your door with an idea. And I think the um overwhelming sentiment is that we would probably have more success if we were proactive and we had a plan and then we were able to show hey look we have this comprehensive plan like you could be a part of it to try to attract

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people rather than just react when people to come to us with an idea and then we're trying to fit it and make it work and you know some people it's maybe not the best idea. Maybe it doesn't fit with what someone wants to do next door. And you know, if you have a more comprehensive plan and a vision, people can see how they fit into it rather than

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just showing up with an idea and trying to kind of shoehorn it together. So, I think I think that was the overarching uh concept. >> Okay. So, in other words, you want to have a plan together before you approach these businesses. >> Well, we can because we don't have that

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many that much uh property on the White Horse Pike, do we? I don't think it's that many. So there's I I think there's enough um vacant or underutilized properties at this point where you know we're not talking about asking anybody to change what they're doing. We're just trying to come up with a larger plan to

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say like hey you know all these properties that aren't really put to productive use. You know what what are we trying to do with these where what direction are we trying to go? Um, you know, I I think your your White Horse pipe frontage is probably almost half either vacant or underutilized at this

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point and the retail commercial district along Philadelphia Avenue is probably a third or maybe a little less than that. Again, just vacant or underutilized. So, it's not necessarily showing up at a business owner's door and telling them, "Hey, we're doing this now and you're not doing this anymore." It's more about

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how to to supplement them, how to build around them, and how to fill the gaps in between with something that's a little more comprehensive and a little less um you know, just pieces. >> But another part of this, another part of this would be to throw out some

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incentives to people uh to invest in a Carver City. And I really started with Mr. Doby uh talking about storm water management along that Atlantic Avenue, White Horse Pike area where uh through

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the I bank and other funding sources of the city could um mitigate that before any potential business comes in and have a major component of what the development would need taken care of

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for. And that would that would entice uh businesses to want to come to a Carver City, give them a reason to come here. And so that's one one of the ideas that could come out of this, but there's

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others and other things that we can do through the redevelopment process. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh I just have one other thing. I I have nothing for the code, but for Rotary, I have um we

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awarded two checks for the eighth grade students at the community school this this past yesterday, as a matter of fact. So, that was the Rotary and um that's all I have. >> Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you.

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>> All right. Uh number Mr. Wright's not here, right? Right. Yeah. >> Right. >> Okay. Uh number 13, uh resolution to appoint Michael Stocklo as tax assessor.

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>> I make a motion. >> Second. >> I make a motion. >> Motion has been made and seconded. Questions on the motion? >> Roll call, please. >> Joy, >> yes. >> Galloway,

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>> yes. Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> And Timbers, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. He's appointed.

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Resolution number 14, adopt the provisions of chapter 48 under NJSA52 col14-17.38 under which a public employer may agree to pay health insurance coverage of

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certain retirees. >> Motion second. >> Motion has been made and second. Is there questions? Roll call, please. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes.

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>> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kener, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> And Timbers, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 15,

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uh, as Ryan was discussing earlier, resolution to award the contract to asphalt paving systems for the stormwater infrastructure upgrades phase one NJ New Jersey Waterbank number, you

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see it in the amount of 2,271,700 pending approval from the NJD. D >> motion >> second. >> Motion has been made and seconded is >> this was this was Yeah. This was in regards to the storm drains around the

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city. Correct. The ones that are eroding >> phase one which is going to be a fivephase program, right Brian? >> Yeah. So this section is primarily along Beethoven uh street um sort of in the area of like 10th Terrace, 8th Terrace

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um down to about San Francisco or so and then a small stretch over to Argo. >> And that was the clay those because you said they were It was clay, wasn't it? >> Yeah. So we actually just had to uh repair a line that collapsed at the

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intersection of Chicago and Beethoven the other day. that is on these plans to get replaced, but it collapsed um I don't know two weeks ago. >> So, unfortunately, we had to fix it. But, I mean, that's that's the rate at which and that's the urgency with which we need to replace these pipes. They're

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literally collapsing at any time. >> Understood. >> Ryan, I did have one other question as well. I know it said base price was the 2,200 and in the resolution it said 2,800. Um could you just explain that?

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>> Yeah. So that that was the alternate bid. Um we had an original scope of the project that we were trying to accomplish um based on some meetings with the public works director at the time and and we sort of picked like the most critical areas and once we drew it all out and put a cost estimate to it um

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we didn't think that we were going to have enough funding from IBank to be able to do the whole thing. So rather than bid it and it be too high and not be able to afford it, we did a base bid which took some scope out and we thought then we'd have enough funding for. And then we did an alternate bid because it was already designed, we might as well put it out and if you know if we have

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enough money to do it then great. But the base bid um or you didn't you don't have enough funding to award the alternate bid. So we have to award the base bid um which is that 2,270,000 uh price tag. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Sure.

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I just wanted to say one thing on this. Um, >> go ahead. >> These bids are very close. >> Yes. Except for the low bid which was deficient. Yes. >> Yeah. And and the one at the last one of 4 million6, but that that to me indicates good engineering up front.

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>> Well, thank you. >> And Ryan, before we vote, just uh if you would explain the whole I bank as quickly as you can, how the I bank uh system works. >> Sure. So, the I bank um through the clean water program, which is what we're

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getting funding through right now, uh has a whole bunch of grant money that they got um for legislation that was passed a few years ago, a combination of of federal and state funds to try to improve water quality and to try to um provide grant funding to uh they have

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tier one and tier 2 municipalities um which are, you know, disadvantaged communities for lack of a better way to to put it. They have like a a rating system and everything. Um, and you guys qualify as a tier one community, which means you qualify for what is effectively a grant program through

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principal forgiveness where you have to borrow money to fund these projects. You borrow from I bank and then when you finish, when you close the loan, they immediately forgive the loan up to $3 million and you can do that every fiscal year. So, until they run out of money

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essentially. So, we have this project now. uh as soon as this one is awarded, we're going to immediately suggest that we start the next project and get, you know, the next the next bit. We actually have a separate planning and design grant in which is for $2 million of engineering work to to redesign all of

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your storm water systems throughout the entire city. um and to try to utilize uh some of that design funding to do things like um come up with water quality improvements um you know basins, rain gardens, things

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like that that uh will help improve water quality as we collect more runoff from from roads that's currently not uh just goes undetained into streams and stuff like that. So um they have a whole lot of funding available to you guys as a tier one municipality and um you know we're trying to take advantage of as

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much of it as we can. And just to add, not only does this fix the piping and the storm water, it gets streets repaid. >> Yeah. Final restoration final restoration is eligible from curb to curb. So, we'll we'll do the trenches,

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we'll put all the pipes in. Uh we'll we'll base pave back up to the surface. We'll let it settle for at least 90 days everywhere, and then they'll come back and mill an overlay everywhere we disturbed. So, it's it's a fantastic program. >> Yes. Hey. Uh, roll call, please.

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>> Thanks. >> Yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> And Timbers,

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>> yes. >> Okay, resolution passes. Number 16 is resolution renew parking lot lease for worldclass flowers to gems-816-858 Antworp Avenue block 725 lots 5 through

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30 >> move second >> questions on the motion >> yeah is the lease increase this year or is it staying the same >> staying the

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Okay. >> Any other questions? Roll call, please. >> Joy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Christ, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz,

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>> yes. >> And Timbers, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 17, authorize Ruckers University to restore the parking area at Dylan's Dock located at

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the Acarbor City Lake. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion has been made and seconded. All questions. >> I do. Could you just Could you just explain that? Um what what are they actually going to do?

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>> This is a Pinelands um requirement for us. >> Yeah. So, it two two things kind of lined up perfectly. Um, so when we submitted our application out at the lake, uh, the first thing the Pelands noted was that there was a violation in that a parking lot had been constructed

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in the area next to Dylan's dock. Um, the city obtained a permit for the dock, uh, but we never pursued a permit for the parking and and obviously a little parking area was constructed there. So, they notified us of a violation. um simultaneously a group at Ruters um who

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had a couple different funding sources and was working on water quality projects came to us and they were trying to do a water quality project near the A Carber city lake. So originally they wanted to be on the other side of the street on the southeast side I'll say of Philadelphia Avenue on the north side of

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the lake um as part of the county's bike path and um bridge project. They're actually building a basin there. So they came to us and they said, "Hey, do you have any alternatives?" And we said, "Yeah, actually we do. How about here? You could restore this parking lot and you could build a rain garden there and

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we could kill two birds with one stone." And they said, "Yeah, sure. We'd be happy to do that." So we were able to cure a violation for free and they were able to do their project and and improve water quality in the area. Um, so it kind of worked out really well. >> Thank you.

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>> Okay. All in favor? I >> I >> I >> opposed. The resolution passes. Number 18, resolution chapter 159, the HD SRF Moss

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Mill Road, SIRI, $120,143.35. >> Make a motion. >> There a motion. >> Is there a second? >> Second. I made a motion. >> All right. Motion has been made and second. Any questions?

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>> Yeah. Uh, is this an additional grant we're getting for that project? >> Yeah, it's >> it's additional HDSRF funding, which is um funding D provides to investigate uh potential contamination or contaminated sites. So, it's okay. It's not not

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funding for the remediation, but it's they pay for the investigation. >> Okay, cool. Thanks. Roll call, please. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist. >> Heist. >> Yes.

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>> Pessie, >> yes. >> Heer, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> And Timbers, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 19. Resolution renewing a cooperative purchasing

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contract with fleet management. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion has been made and second questions. >> Roll call, please. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes.

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>> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. and Timbers. >> Yes. >> Okay. Motion passes. Number 20.

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Resolution an emergency appropriation or a lease payment. >> Make a motion. >> Second. >> Uh questions on the motion? >> Roll call, please. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway,

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>> yes. Heist. >> Yes. >> Pass. >> Yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> And right. >> Motion pass. >> Well, right here, but Timbers,

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>> I'm sorry. Tim, I'm sorry. >> Timbers. >> Okay. Number 21 is resolution 100% disabled veteran tax exemption case number 2026-05. >> I'll make the motion.

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>> Second. >> Second. >> Motion's been made and seconded. There questions. Roll call, please. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Hessie, >> yes. >> Kenir,

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>> yes. Ortiz, >> yes. >> And Timbers, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 22 is refund 2025 property taxes due to a

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100% disabled veteran. >> Is there a motion? >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> Motion made second. Questions? >> Roll call. >> Doy. >> Yes. >> Galloway. Yes.

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>> Heist. >> Yes. >> Pessie. >> Yes. >> Kenir. >> Yes. >> Ortiz. >> Yes. >> And Timbers. >> Yes. Resolution passes. Number 23.

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Resolution authorizing the refund of a clothing bin application fee to help. Make a motion. >> Can you explain this one? A second. Can you explain that Jody? >> Jody.

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>> Second. >> So, well, we have a a ordinance that if you have a clothing bin, you have to pay for it, the application fee, and you also have to pay a yearly charge for the clothing. I don't know who helps is, but >> I think this one was not aver city,

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right? >> They paid it to us and it wasn't a Carver City where >> Yeah, I think that's what it was. Yeah, it wasn't located within the town's boundaries. >> Oh, >> probably egg Harbor Township. >> Yeah, >> we could take that fee for them. You

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know, >> I'd like helps u clothing bin. I mean, it's a good company. They do great recycling and it'd be nice if we could get a Helpsy bin in town and they they uh collect every week and they uh give

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you money for it, too. So, >> all right, >> let's do a fundraiser. >> Okay, all in favor roll call. I'm sorry. Roll call. >> All right. Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes.

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>> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> And Timbers, >> yes. >> Okay, resolution passes. 24 is renew liquor licenses July 1st 2026 through

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June 30th of 27. Plenary retail consumption for Giorgio Crossroads Firehouse Bar and Grill Renault FBS LLC Renault St. Lewis Avenue License LLC and

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Rhin and Madrid Shore and for Plenary Retail Distribution Shore Beverage Canals >> second >> motion has been made and seconded. Is there questions? >> Who's the Reni Madrid?

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>> I'm not sure which one that is. >> That's um what's the states? Um, Pepe because I think it's a >> Pepe has >> I think it's for the log cabin, right, Jackie? >> Yeah, but he still has the license. He

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just hasn't it hasn't been used there. >> Gotcha. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh, all in favor? >> I >> I >> I >> I >> opposed. Resolution passes. Number 25, resolution

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to support the introduction of federal legislation to study the Mullica River for designation as a national partnership wild and scenic river. >> Make a motion. >> Second.

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>> Motion made and seconded. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Resolution passes. Okay. Number 26 is a public hearing for ordinance number 11-2026

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amending chapter 102 titled bingo and games of chance of the code of the city of a Carver and if it's passed it will be noticed on the AC Carver city website there a motion >> I'll make a motion >> make a motion second

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>> motion made and seconded roll call Joy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> Kenir,

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>> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> And Timbers, >> yes. >> Okay. Ordinance is adopted. Uh, number 27, bill list. Is there a motion? >> Make the motion.

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>> Second. >> Any questions on the bills? >> Roll call. >> Doy. >> Yes. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist. >> Yes. >> Pessie. >> Yes.

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>> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> And Timbers, >> yes. >> Okay. The bills are approved. Number 28, uh, public comment. Anyone from the

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public wish to be heard? >> Hello. >> Yes. Please state your name. >> Hi, Michelle Madison, >> 509 Fifth Terrace. >> Okay. >> And I I have a question about the prior

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meeting minutes. When will those be posted on the website? Jackie, can you uh >> um Usually it gets posted right when the video gets posted. Jody, were they the minutes? >> Um if they're attached in the email with

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the council meeting, I can upload them like pretty much immediately. >> So, yes, they can get I can Yeah, they can get I'll have them up tomorrow by tomorrow. >> Okay, I appreciate that. And I guess I'm I'm just in a little disbelief right now. So, I'm just going to have to take

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time to process that Egg Harbor City is going to have a movie studio. Not something that that myself and I know other people weren't pushing for a movie studio. It just seems a little out of character for the town. I hope, you know, for everyone's sake that it does

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bring growth in business, you know, like we want it to. But I am concerned and I'm a little shaken up by this um to hear that everything has gone through uh through the Pinelands Commission and yet we couldn't get a mat installed at our

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beach at the lake. That seems very odd, but it is what it is. Um I'll be at the next meeting. Thank you. >> It's our world. >> Thank you. Anyone else wish to be heard? Seeing none. Tracy M. Tracy M. Right

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there. >> Yep. Tracy M. >> Hey. Um, so when you were talking about the redevelopment, I was remembering years ago. It's a long time, maybe eight years ago or something. Uh, there was there was some action on redeveloping

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Philadelphia Avenue and there was actually some uh some concrete, I guess you could say, plans. I I just remember there was like a vote. you could vote on c a certain kind of style to have Philadelphia Avenue match up with and they had pictures that like

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somebody had drawn or something like you know there was different styles there's like probably three or four different you know ideas like hey you know citizens of Egg Harbor City vote on these ideas about what you want the storefronts to look like in Egg Harbor City and there was some kind of partial

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grant like the state would give 30,000 000 if the store owner paid 3,000. I don't know if this sounds familiar to anybody, but I don't know if anybody had those plans still, but I thought I was kind of excited about the idea that somebody had actually gone that far to

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come up with like here's three or four pictures of what, you know, what you might want Philadelphia storefronts to look like and vote on them. And there was like a vote that went out. I can't remember how the voting was, if it was through email or the website. I can't I'm sorry. I can't remember. I hope

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somebody does. But I just thought that if somebody actually still has that data that maybe it's a starting point as like an inspiration point or if any of the ideas are actually something that is

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viable for you know uh an idea of of of a look to go towards that maybe that might be something >> Tracy the only thing that I can think of that you're referring to and I don't believe they voted on it >> was the NPP grant that we had that we

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were giving $5,000 um grants from the MPP grant that we received to businesses and we had a consultant that sat with each of the business owners that was interested and she did h she did actually make a plan and showed us what

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her vision was. But we didn't have very many um businesses interested, especially the businesses that really needed it. But you can see on Philadelphia Avenue, the ones that actually used it, they look pretty good. Like the railroad place, H&H

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Confections, all the batters, uh Carmen's down at the end, house cafe, his is still getting done, and a few others. Um, so maybe that's what you were talking about. >> That's probably what it was. Yeah. Sorry, my memor is a little vague, but I

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do remember seeing a picture that somebody had drawn or stylized or whatever. But but yeah, if that's some kind of starting point to maybe even be an inspiration or if if they can be used anyway instead of reworking the wheel, I just thought maybe that might be helpful.

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>> Yeah, that's a good idea. And we did lose that grant. They're not giving it anymore. So, we did have it for five years. >> All right. Thanks. That's all. Thank you for your comment. >> Great. Uh, mayor,

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>> um, I have nothing other than that. Uh, get your clothes into the greenhouse because this is a fundraiser for the coalition for safe community. Um, and that's it. And then nothing shredded at all. It goes to good causes. It's A&E clothing. If anybody wants to look them

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up, they're right in Carver Township. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Timbers. Uh, nothing. Thank you. >> Nothing, Mr. Ortiz. >> No, I have nothing else. Thank you.

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>> Uh, Mrs. Hessie, >> I have nothing. Thank you, >> Mrs. Heist. >> I have nothing. Thank you, >> Mrs. Galloway. >> Um, I got a lot to say, but I'm going to like pass tonight.

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I'll catch you on Monday. >> All right, Mr. Doby, >> I have nothing to add. Thank you. >> And I don't either. And I wish everyone um to stay cool in this heat. It's pretty

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hot out there, muggy. So, is there a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion. >> I'll second it. >> Wait, before you go, >> I just want to wish all I just want to wish all those dads a happy Father's Day, >> my man. >> I know.

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>> Thank you, Moshe. I I know we're in June, but who knows if we'll >> see you again. >> It's good to see you, Moshi. >> Okay. Um, all in favor of the German. >> Yes. >> I

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>> I motion. Thank you. >> Thank you. Good night.