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I just want to make an announcement before we open the meeting. Uh the bathrooms in the back there are not functional. We do have a small bathroom in the next room where you can go out in the hallway and into this next room and it's on this side.

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So if you need to use it, uh, you can go in there. So I'd like to call the July 16th, 2026 A Carver City Council meeting to order. In compliance with the open public meetings act of the state of New Jersey, adequate notice of this

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meeting of the A Carver City Common Council was provided in the following manner. Notice was given or posted on the AC Carver city bulletin board was posted on the AC Carver city website and advance written notice of this meeting was sent to the Hamilton gazette.

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>> Roll call please. >> Mayor Jetty >> here. >> Doby >> here. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> He will not be here tonight. Painer. >> Yes. Here. >> Ortiz here. >> Sen. >> Timbers. >> He's on his way. I just saw he's here.

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>> He's walking. Okay. Number number >> number four on our agenda is public comment. Is there anyone wish to be heard on any agenda items? >> Anyone wish to be heard? Seeing none. >> Yeah.

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>> Hello. >> Go ahead. Please state your name and address. Uh, this is Michelle Madison over at 509 Fifth Terrace. Um, I have questions on item item number

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22, the Antworp Avenue landfill. And my question is that the resolution states the environmental studies are reimbursible through escrow. Can the city identify which applicant established that escrow account and whether the agreement is available for

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to the public? I didn't get the what was Can you repeat the first part of the question? Sorry. >> Sure. >> The resolution says that the environmental studies are reimbursible through escrow and so I want to know can the city identify which applicant

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establish that escrow account. a >> we're we're looking at that and um the MAU to establish the escar should be available as a public document if you send the local request be able to provide it. >> Okay, that's great. Uh second question is what safeguards are in place to

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ensure the city's environmental consultants maintain independence and that their findings are reviewed objectively before any redevelopment approvals are considered. All environmental approvals would have to go through D. So you do have a state agency that oversees um all the

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environmental reports and pelines commission as well. >> Okay. So that that guarantees that they're maintaining their independence and their findings are reviewed objectively. >> Yeah. I mean look, they're certified professionals. They have to maintain

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licenses and in order to do so they have to comply with D and Peland's uh regulations. Could you explain the SRB? how that works. >> Yeah. I mean, well, I can do it if you want. I mean, >> there um >> that would be great.

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>> So, D established an LSRP program which requires the LC or LSRP is essentially report directly to D. Um so, they are independent. They come out, they they do their reports and they have to certify to D that everything is true and

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accurate and DP reviews it. um it's the way the DP has set it up so projects can move a little faster um so that D doesn't have to do the the um remedial work themselves but they are they but they do sum it out to LSRPs license site

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what is it mediation license site remediation professions yeah >> okay [clears throat] >> uh item number 24 data center uh study what what prompted the city to initiate the study specifically on hypers scale

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data centers and server farms. >> So, um obviously it's a hot topic in the public right now. And what this will do is it'll refer to the uh joint land use board um to see to make sure that it's

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uh likely inconsistent with the master plan. Um, and it gives the city more protections to potentially deny a data center application if it but we have to do the study first through uh through the land use board and the city planner

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to make sure that it's not that it's not consistent with the master plan. >> Okay. Has any developer, broker, consultant, utility company or state agency approached Egg Harbor City regarding the data center development? >> No. No.

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>> Okay. Will the land use board study evaluate electrical demand, water consumption, energy, emergency services impact, traffic noise, you know, long-term tax implications before making recommendations. >> We don't believe that we would get an

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application for this because we don't have the property or the land mass to cover it. >> So, that's good to hear. We're not really We are doing our due diligence as our attorney said, but we don't expect any kind of uh >> but but to answer your question, the

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engineer started to say um yeah, generally speaking, that all that would be part of the uh overall study from Miami Sport. >> Okay. Will will residents have opportunities to review findings and provide public input before any zoning amendments are considered?

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>> Yes. >> Okay. Um item number 15 meetings are public where the study will be presented anyway. >> Okay. Uh can council explain the basis

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for the salary adjustment for item 15? >> I could I could speak on that. Um that is uh for our former city administrator DPW superintendent. He was um he was eligible for a raise after his

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performance eval which happened earlier in the year. His anniversary date was March the 5th and um or May the 5th, I'm sorry. And so it comes out to um like seven weeks before he actually left us

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that he was entitled to on an increase. >> Okay, those are all my questions. Thank you. >> Okay, thank you. Anyone else wish to be heard? Okay, seeing none, number five is approved the minutes of June 11th and

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June 25th. >> Is there a motion? >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Questions on the minutes? >> All in favor? >> Opposed? >> Minutes approved. >> Abstain from both.

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>> Yeah, because I didn't read them. >> Okay. All right. Uh we're going to uh go off the agenda a little bit. We have a a guest here tonight. His name is Lloyd Humphrey. He's with the multiple sclerosis

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group for uh city toshore bike run. Um Lloyd, would you like to come up? sneaker in this thing and fall. Call your med people. >> Get a bike through there. You get what's that? >> You can get a bike right up to there.

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>> On a side note, this will be 40 consecutive years of riding this thing. So, >> I've done it for a while. >> Um, thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, council members. Thank for all the folks that support this Egg Harbor City. And certainly, thanks to all the residents

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for letting me appear here tonight. But most importantly to thank you all uh for the support that the the city gives to the MS society, the greater Philadelphia chapter, the MS society. Uh this is the largest single fundraising event that we

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sponsor in this area. We have on any given year between four and 6,000 ride 4,000 and 6,000 riders. We'll raise between four and five half million dollars. And the beauty to the MS society is more than 79 or 82% I forget

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what the number was last year actually ends up going to the benefits of the MS patients. So of the large disease-based nonprofits, this one returns more to the uh folks suffer with the disease than almost any of the others that I know of.

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So it's a privilege to participate. It's a privilege to be part of it. and I've been part of the fundraising and the uh and the planning committee for 34 years as well as riding in the ride each year for 40 years. I will tell you there's approximately 19,000 people in the

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Delaware Valley that suffer with MS. MS is a disease that is unforgiving. There's over a million people throughout the United States. Um it affects people between age usually of 30 to 50 with women impacted three times

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more often than men. Still not sure exactly why there's such a large disparity, but that's the reality of the uh of the numbers. Uh I got riding in this thing because it was a great ride down to this down from Philadelphia to the shore where they put

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me up in a hotel in Fettney on the way and I was racing at the time. So 150 miles over two days seemed like to my buddies and I a great way to do it. And then after a couple years of doing it, I ended up with people I got to know personally, friends, family, employees

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of mine that all suffered with MS. So it became a motivation for me to stay involved. And to this day, I am grateful to be involved. But most importantly, I'm grateful for the towns that we impact on this route that continue to give us the ability to say residents,

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it's a little tough getting out of your driveway sometimes on a Saturday morning with that many riders coming across, but your police, your fire, your physical plant people have all done a great job for us over the years of making it possible. Uh, I will say that on Sunday

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there's only about 25% as many riders. So, you might not notice it very much. I'm almost always one of those 25%. My son is usually with me. I'm hoping this year I have my 22-year-old grandson riding with me, so we could have a three generation ride. Be fun.

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Um, I will tell you that the the um the ride has um had some challenges over the years and the MS society has made special efforts to uh try in and draw in the challenges to make it less impactful

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on every community because we value your support so much. Um, I really don't know that I can say a whole lot more except to tell you that I do have a small plaque here that I kind of tell you is inversely in size to the to how much we appreciate what you do,

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sir. >> To the mayor. >> Mayor, the mayor here know who the mayor was here. Oh, I should have read that. But really, you guys have done a great job of supporting us. So, we're really, really grateful for that. And I am open to field any questions from anybody

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that's a member of the town or any residents that have any questions to try to answer them in the best possible way I can. And if I don't know the answer, I know somebody in MS knows the answer and I'll get them to respond to you in short order. Anyone have any questions?

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>> Yes, sir. I have this question all the time. When someone breaks down, uh, do they have to like supply their own like replacement wheels or do you guys have guys that come up behind them quickly change? >> Timbers. >> Yes.

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>> Good question. Um, we have over 700 volunteers, perhaps as many as a thousand in some years if we get lucky. We have uh almost every significant bicycle store in the Delaware Valley

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provides some level of what we call support. They will have vehicles on the road. They will have vehicles and mechanics at each of the rest stops. And if somebody breaks down on the road, they will get repaired as quickly as

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they can. There's no charge to anybody for anything that they get off of one of those support vehicles. case about uh 10 years ago when my son was riding with me. Him and four of his buddies were a

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little faster than his old man. So, they were ahead of us by a few miles. But when my friend and I came up on them, we could see him off to the side of the road and one of the sag wagons was there. And here what happened is one of the guys had come out and clipped my

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son's back wheel and literally tore up the spokes and bent the wheel itself. That mechanic gave him a new wheel, rebuilt the back wheel, put the sprockets on so that everything worked the way it's supposed to work, and had

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him back on the road in less than 25 minutes. >> And um put his wheel back. We paid to have his wheel rebuilt because it was a better wheel than what he got. But at the end of the day, that's how effective these guys are out there of taking care of the mechanics. Um, people like me are

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riding along that are part of the team. I always carry extra tubes because I invariably in changing a uh flat tire or two for people along the way who may not have much experience. I raced for years, so on a triathlon you have to change your own flat. I can usually change a

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flat in less than four minutes. Um, so at the end of the day, that's how we support it and there is no charge to anybody. That's that's how generous uh the people that support the MS are on the businesses that participated. So I hope I've answered your question reasonably well.

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>> We did. Thank you. >> Any other questions from anybody? >> I don't have a question. I have a comment. Um, when my daughter was in college, her roommate um their sophomore year came down with MS >> and it was very traumatic for her. And I just think this is an amazing

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organization that supports them. And I guess about 4 months ago, she had her first baby. She had a little boy. So she's a nurse. She got her RN. She's a nurse. She's married. And she just had a little boy and she has MS. So I'm sure your organization had something to do

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with her health going in the direction that it went that she is successful and happy now. >> I appreciate those comments. I will make a comment. I don't want to take too much of your time here, but um the med the medicine advances in the last 10 years

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are are amazing. The people that suffer with MS are now able to live lives that look almost normal by any standard. That's the beautiful thing about what's going on with the research that the funds that we raise are doing. Um the

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the progressive form of MS is still providing some challenges because it does get worse over the years. I was mentioning to uh Tanner who by the way was army and I was Marines but we always got along pretty good I thought at the end except in the bars at night but uh

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at the end of the day the the the issue with the progressive is it seems to stay reasonably lowkey for a couple years and then it progresses real quickly. But the non-progressive form, the medicines have had tremendous impact on improving

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people's lives. And it's the first time in ever in the last two years I've heard people say they're expecting a cure for MS in the near future. So that's the reality of what we've got going on. I had a good friend's wife die two years ago. She was progressive form. went from

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a national class skater to um walking with a cane then in a wheelchair and then bedridden for the last two years of life and died. So it is a terrible disease and we'd love to find a solution to it. So um uh I appreciate your personal testimony to that and

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>> hey look thanks for supporting us. >> Really am grateful. Thank you very much. Thanks to everybody actually. >> Thank you for coming. >> Watch your step. I will and I will leave um me. How about if I give you guys can share this a little bit. There might be

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some posters you want to put up around. We can always use volunteers. There's still time to sign up to ride if you really want to. I mean I am now the I'm not the oldest at 77, but I am the guy with the most amount of years at this point. Nobody else has more years than

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me. So I'm going to ride maybe one or two more years and then I'm coming up and become a volunteer. But thanks again for letting me know up and appreciate all your support. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Also off the agenda is uh our new

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um I don't know I would say temporary or uh part-time >> uh DPW superintendent Rich Parks is here. Would you want to come up a minute for Rich and watch your step too please?

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All right. First of all, it's nice to meet all of you. Uh I've met most of you, but there's a few that I haven't met. Um I look forward to working with each and every one of you to do what's uh what's required to keep our public works department in tip-top shape as

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well as our our our city. It's a beautiful city. I I've enjoyed my time here so far and uh I'm I'm all in hoping that uh I can provide a service that people will be proud of. >> Thanks, again. No problem. >> Thank you. Is there anyone have any

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questions for Rich? >> Uh what city you live in? >> I'm from Mount Holly, Burlington County. >> Burlington. Okay. >> So, uh I have years of experience in public works. I've been doing it for over 34 years. I enjoy it. Uh it's nice to be out of the office and be part of the community out and about doing what

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needs to be done. So, >> and you've worked in big towns and small towns. >> Yes. Yes. I've worked in a in a small town for 25 years uh of about 6,000 people uh six square miles. Uh, and I worked in Medford Township in Burlington County, which is 42 square miles, uh,

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and a whole lot more people, a lot lot more ground to cover and, uh, so I've got the experience and and I've accepted the challenge. Um, and I'm looking forward to working with >> Thank you, sir. My email is set up, so you have any questions or concerns or

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whatever, feel free. >> Appreciate that. >> Where is your office? >> Uh, I am at the public works. send you an email. >> We continue to get together to talk about the free free.

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>> All right. >> Any anyone else know? >> Okay. Thank you, Rich. >> You don't have to hang around. So, appreciate you coming. >> Appreciate it. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Okay. We were going to do an executive

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session, but we'll hold that till the end. Um, so the next uh part of this would be number six, our mayor's report. >> Okay. So, a little bit about the lake. It seems as though we finally have the water and sewer working properly. We did

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have another unfortunate electrical issue um this past weekend or actually Friday and it is fixed and hopefully it'll stay fixed. Um, we do have events this weekend, fireworks and drone show that

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may be cancelled because it looks like it's going to rain, but I will keep everyone posted on that. If it does go forward and the rain decides to head somewhere else, uh, the fireworks will start at dusk, which is a little after 9, the water will close at 5 for the

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guests that are there, and the lake will be cleared at 6:00 and the gates will reopen at 7. And all this information is on the official Egg Harbor City Facebook page. U Renault is going to have a live DJ uh band there for a period of time

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and we also have our live DJ. Um Peace [clears throat] Pilgrim birthday celebration. Nette I forgot what the time was 12. >> Oh 8:30 they start >> 8:30. 8:30 is uh peace pilgrim park >> yoga stuff >> yoga. And that information is also on

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the Egg Harbor City Facebook page. And make sure it says official. >> So, one thing I would like to say before I read the go on and then read the uh uh captain's report that I got, the chief is on vacation after uh the

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incident that happened last week with the escape from another, you know, years ago. we had to escape with the escape from the uh people at Harbor Fields. I really would suggest that if you're not signed up for the emergency alert system

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or your neighbors are not signed up for the emergency alert system that you do so. And also, we're probably going to if you know run into some storms along the way that may need a call or a text message and and you can get that information as it happens if you sign up

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for the um the alerts. So, you can get an email, you can get a text, you can get a telephone call and it's on our website. Um, you can just click that and sign up as a new user or you can call city hall and leave your name and your number and

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I will put it on for you if you cannot do it. But it's very important that we all have information, you know, of emergencies and you will also receive notifications of events and things like that. Mayor, I'm on and I got nothing. >> Because we didn't send it because they

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were >> Okay, that's good reason why I got nothing. Thank you. >> Just just like about to send it. Marcel was like, "Did you send it?" I was like, "You caught me." And literally I was like [laughter] moving the mouth like before she like called. >> Yeah, cuz we were away and I saw it on

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Facebook and I'm like, "Oh, we're not. Oh my god, they're probably in my house." >> It wasn't the prison side. No, but um I was I was actually out to dinner in Margate and I had I couldn't get on um the CTY call. So yeah, Jody luckily, you

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know, offered to do it. So, but luckily then the chief called back and said, "Don't do it." We caught him. So, I'll read a little bit about that. And if you don't know already, there's a new hair salon that opened next to Fade. you know where Fade is on the corner. It's where

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little pink houses used to be to the left of that and I did have have the opportunity to meet the the owner um on Thursday and she's very nice. She's from Hamilton and she has says she has quite the following. She did have a sign but it somehow fell down so she will get a

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new sign. Um and I'm hoping to get some information to put on the Facebook about that. Also, uh, according to Donna, there's going to be another salon opening for, uh, right next to the, uh, Fina's Barber

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Shop somewhere around that area where eyebrows and waxing and things like that. So, I've not don't have too much information about that, but it's coming. That's coming, too. >> Yes. Um, so business-wise, uh, the coalition is

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requesting the use of Lincoln Park on August 21st from 9 to5 to have an expungement event. So would council approve that to wave the fee and have let them have that event. >> Motion second.

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>> Motion made and seconded. Questions? >> How much is the fee usually? >> 15. >> 350, right? 350. Yeah. All those in favor take volunteers. >> All those in favor?

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>> We're waiting. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist. >> Yes. >> Kener. >> Yes. >> 14. >> Yes. >> Sen. >> Yes. >> Timbers. >> Absolutely. >> Right. >> Okay. So, the police report the as I

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said the um chief is on vacation. Uh, Captain Pera sent this to me. Um, I'll just read it. During the month of July, officers made 19 arrests for a variety of offenses, including burgly, burglary, domestic violence, controlled uh,

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dangerous substance offenses, driving while intoxicated, active warrants, shoplifting, and apprehension of the two juveniles we just talked about from the detention center. In addition to these enforcement efforts, officers responded and investigated eight motor vehicle

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crashes. Some note not noteworthy arrests stemming from an incident that occurred on July 4th, 2026. A Carver City resident was arrested and charged with aggravated assault and endangerment endangering the welfare of a child.

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Another incident also occurred on July 4th resulted in a in an Egg Harbor City resident being arrested and charging charged with burglary, theft, and criminal mischief. So on 711

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this past week at 1928 hours, a Carver City Police patrol officer um Thomas White and patrolman Benjamin Springer and Sergeant Nicholas Mangold were dispatched to the Harbor Fields Juvenile

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Detention Center to a report of two juvenile males, both of whom reside in Camden County, who were reported to have scaled a wall and climbed climbed onto the roof of the facility. Harborfield staff initially reported that they believed they were males and they were

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still on the roof. However, it was quickly determined by patrol that the juveniles had jumped outside of the fence in the area and fled southeast across K-Rock Field. Officers requested assistance of mutual aid and quickly

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established a perimeter and a short time later officers from Galloway Township Police, Mica Township Police, the Atlantic County Sheriff's Office, Egg Harbor Township K9 unit, and an Ocean City drone responded. With the help of information provided by

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several community members as well as the data gathered during a K-9 track, officers were able to establish a last known location of the juveniles in a heavily wooded section in the area of Braymond Avenue and Deer Street. So, you're okay, Donna. They walk by you.

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>> Wait, different direction. Two drones were deployed above the wooded area by the Ocean City drone team, which enabled the officers to establish visual contact with the juveniles who were last seen lying prone in the woods. A response team consisting of patrolman White,

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patrolman Springer, Egg Harbor Township K9, and Atlantic County Sheriff officers entered the wooded area and through radio communications with the drone team were able to safely take both juveniles into police custody without incident.

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The juveniles were transported back to the Egg Harbor City Police Department and turned over to the Juvenile Justice Commission. And that's that's the report about what happened. Can I say something about that? I just want the public to know that that uh Harbor Fields is not a

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city facility. It's a state facility where um juveniles from Atlantic County and now they're accepting juveniles from out of the county. So, it's not our operation. Just so you know. >> And the last time this happened, I believe we did write a letter to Denny

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Levenson about that. >> That was the name. >> But we got nowhere with that. So, but luckily, you know, we had a lot of support and we have a great police department and they were apprehended. But I I would say seriously spread the

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word, get get the calls. You know, it could have went a different way and we could have had to send the call out that like I did before, stay in your house, lock your windows and doors and you know, it's sad, but through you should be aware of what's going on and you know, if there's an emergency and this

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is a good way to do it. So, and that's all. >> Kids were going home. Now they got to go back and pers their charts. They would have stayed a week long or they would have been home. >> And that's all I have. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Council committee chair reports. Uh start with Mrs. Ice.

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>> The only thing I have is number 20 about the interim active of the retail consumption license. That never came to the license committee. Is that something that should come to the committee? Um, it's a new, it was a new procedure that

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was put in place by ABC that it's never gone before them before any of the liquor like we've always renewed. And >> this one, it was like the one we just renewed at the last meeting for MRN. >> As long as they show that they're trying

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to sell and order from the owner of the license that they have listed it for sale, they get another year. The good is expiring on August 1st. >> Okay. But and what's that? >> Should the committee know about those being the licensing committee or is that not necessary? That's my question. Not necessary.

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>> We've never done it before. >> We've never had license committee before. >> No, we did. >> No, we always had a license. >> We did for Merkantals and >> Oh, okay. But um >> Cliff Maze used to be in charge of >> like this is new legislation that just came in and >> worked. I when I talked to ABC, they

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were like, "Well, we don't really know what to do, but if they show you proof they're actively selling it." And we did the other one at the last meeting. We really can't pick and choose which one we want to renew and which one. Absolutely. But >> and it's just a year give them to sell it. >> All right. >> Because it it hasn't been active in over

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five years. >> Yeah, that was that was my two questions. That's all I had. Thank you. >> Joe, can I say one more? >> Sure. Go ahead. >> I just I for neglected to introduce um Sydney Merced. Would you stand up? Sydney's my um

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in intern. She's from New Hampshire. She goes to Penn State and she's doing an internship with us until the end of August. So, she's been here since um July, the beginning of July, right? >> May. Oh my gosh. >> So, it's it's a lot of work and uh she's

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doing a great job. I just want you to let everybody know time flies, right? She pretty soon she'll be home. >> Thank you, Sydney. Welcome. >> I'm Thank you, Jess. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Sent. I'm >> I'm good. Thank you,

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>> M. Mr. Ortiz. >> Uh, so for the parks, we seen that they took down the um >> gazebo. That's the only thing I got for that. But for the uh school board, they they pushed their meeting from July to

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August. Um, another thing that happened too was there's there's a few good teachers that resigned. Um, sir, the school board's really the schools are really hurting for teachers and good personnel just in general. Um, so

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hopefully, you know, we can pick some good teachers up. They can figure out what's going on over there. >> That's all I got for the school board. >> Is there any uh idea what you want to do in the middle of the park the committee discuss that at all? >> Not fully yet. No. >> Okay. >> Well, Tanner, did you went to look at

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it, right? You really don't need to pour any concrete because there's still a concrete slab with the original brick around it. So, it's kind of like a stage. And the the only thing we need to do that we found out, we need to put ballards there because now the electrical box is exposed. So, we would

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just probably want to do that. And since you mentioned it, I would like to thank Gary Hess and his volunteers, Richie Hess, um Mike Jetti, and Butchie Kinsley and Todd Walker. They did all the work for break.

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>> So, >> very good. >> Good. Thank you. Anything else? No, that'll be okay. Mr. David, >> I don't have anything to report for public works. You met Mr. Parks. Uh, he's doing a great job in this first week and

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second week. Uh, and I think it's going to work out well. It's good good transition. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Timmers. Uh, Dr. report. Okay, >> Mrs. Gallow, >> I don't have a report tonight. >> Really? >> Yeah.

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>> You sure? >> Just mention. >> Oh, yeah. >> There is some. >> Is it or just pull? >> Oh, we can do that when we get to it. >> Oh, I didn't see him. >> My husband's telling me Bob Walcott

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also. >> I didn't see him. I'm sorry, >> Mr. Wright. >> Oh, yeah. No, I got some comments, but I mean uh some announcements, but I'll make them at the end. >> Okay, good. All right. And um I just want to say that uh and I did put

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something out to council that we're pretty close with our studio uh movie studio. He's uh got a lot of and Ryan if I say anything incorrect please correct me but he's got most of his approvals

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from Pinelands and he's from what I read recently he's very close to getting the landfill permit from D. So once he gets that he can come before and I also know Mr. Adobe found out that

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he does have a meeting with the county and and then he'll be able to come to our uh land use port. So, so that's a good thing moving forward and we'll see what happens there. So, all right. Uh

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the chief of police we already heard from the mayor. Uh CFO. >> Okay. City clerk. >> I have nothing. City administrator >> attorney. >> I'm sorry. City attorney. >> Yeah. Not the job. >> I saw the

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>> We We need one. I You know, we have an empty office. >> That's it. >> All right. Um engineer, >> thank you for this report. >> Sure.

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>> Yeah. So, a couple things. uh Bubble Avenue we have prepared the final uh January payment but people's processes then thought your meeting was on the fourth Thursday so they prepared the week without payment for that we'll get that tomorrow so that that job's done we

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ended up with a negative change order actually a couple dollars back um >> like $3 >> it was it was like 39 bucks a negative hey any kind of negative is good the other way so um so that was good uh we are still waiting got confirmation from

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DCA through Triad about the reallocation of funds for the concession standard bathrooms. We got that preliminary, but we still need some guidance on how that's going to go. Uh we did get the approval to be the bathroom. So, we're planning to advertise that in July. >> When's that? July 7th.

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>> Yeah, but we want to advertise this. >> Okay. >> Um utility upgrades. Uh the design complete for a while. We've been responding. We got their request from DP and request finance for additional information. Almost just a clarification from the finance commission. Uh so we've answered all that. Just trying to get those permits and process and approved

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as quick as we can. Uh the electrical improvements are under contract. They'll be starting in the fall. Uh city hall work is still progressing. Um got a couple issues. The longest turn of which was the railing >> not progressing. >> Well, the >> it's not progressing. >> The the bathrooms went from essentially

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empty to very close to having a TCO today. >> Brian, I don't want to interrupt your report, but there's no way they're going to get a TCA. >> TCO later. No, it's a A. It's not a O. I already learned We already learned that lesson today. >> Yeah, we did.

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>> I will take you in there and show you the deficiencies that were pointed out to me. It's horrific. >> Well, horrific. >> Whatever it is, we'll give it. >> Yes, I know you will. >> Um, but yeah, so there uh the railing is another piece that's going to hang out there. So, they're going to do the

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carpet behind the de and the railing as soon as the railing arrives. Um, they did not have the accessories for the bathroom. Um they had apparently they they bought them in a group broick and they couldn't get a hold of them for multiple days. Um their ship date is actually already passed that was listed

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here already. They got some kind of cyber attack or something. So uh working through that but >> everybody said >> I I didn't double check but that's uh that's that's the one I got today. >> Um okay. So what else? >> I got real question while you're on the

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city hall. >> Sure. I mean, I could be losing my mind, but this countertop, there's no way it's anywhere from 28 to 34 in >> the counter top height. >> Yeah. >> I didn't measure it, but it should be >> cuz a wheelchair ain't fitting under here.

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>> Well, it's it's supposed to be exact to 34 in and 27 27 in for legs. It's your >> I don't I have it in my other work. >> This is I'm just saying Steve's awful low. >> [laughter]

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>> It should be the correct check. >> Okay. Um, New Orleans Avenue. We went back and forth with the county team times trying to get them to remove an indemnification clause and they are not budging on that. So, at the point we're recommending that it file um with being

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required indemnification clause, but everybody's okay with that. We'll move forward with Dr. Chris's office to file that subdivision properties out auction. Um, >> you want to take a vote on that or what? Because I >> You need a vote for that, Chris? No.

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Okay. >> I say go for it in the Senate. >> Yeah. I mean, if no objections, we'll just >> Can we just explain what the indemnification clause is so the public actually knows what we're talking about? >> Sure. While we were wasting our time trying to fight against it, uh, do you

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want to >> Yeah. I don't have the exact language, but it was a pretty it was an identification that basically had to hold the county. It identify the county for anybody that would get hurt on the property which stretches from. It's the

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wooded area, right? It's the back. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's for the entrance out onto Deer Street. Essentially, they wanted to prohibit um vehicular access directly from the property on Deer Street, which is fine, but there's 130 ft of wetlands buffer that's already there. So someone would have to

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illegally clear 130 ft of property to be able to access the hood. So we kind of said, "Look, this isn't necessary. You're going to have to break the wall in multiple ways for this to ever come up." And they they didn't they didn't budge on it. So our concern was that if we filed it with that clause, it's a

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pretty I mean it was very broad identification clause. Our concern was that buyers would be um chased off by that you know extensive language and extensive identification. >> Thank you. Okay. >> Uh, okay. Next, Levi Bankang Stormer

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Project. We awarded a contract to Asphalt Paving Systems. Uh, we had a pre-construction meeting earlier this week. Uh, they're planning to start work in August. They have a little bit of work out on Philadelphia Avenue that they'd like to get done before school open. So, they're not here with the Cedar Creek bus train. Um, so you'll see that weeks or that work start two to

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three weeks from now. Um, D3 Street frame in Baltimore. Um after they thought they weren't responding to them for months, they finally asked for more information. Um so we got them that and we're just waiting till we get the authorization to advertise. Uh Senior

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Center ADA, we are uh the plans are ready. They're we're doing an internal constructibility review just to make sure everything makes sense. Um assuming that that's good, we'll be sending out to DCA probably by the end of next week for their review and approval to go out to bid. uh camp street we are pretty

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much done with design actually just reviewed it earlier today expecting them to send that to do for the PSN submission which is plans specs everything uh kick improvements I actually need to bring Dary H out there to talk about we

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scheduled to have soil boardings so we have to put some underground storage chambers and we went out to go through test pits and there's irrigation lines under the >> irrigation electrical the electrical box is right there too right where you guys got to stake So that's we got to pick different spots and the the systems are

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configurable with a bunch of employees. You just got to find enough to move to fit one. >> Okay. >> And then do the test bin that's uh the brownfield areas. Um the Ankor Avenue project is moving along. We have a proposal on there for the 10 endangered species studies um at the Antworp Avenue

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site. Uh we're still working on HCS application for the gateway. Uh and then the city got that half million dollar brownfield investigation funds for EPA. Uh so I believe they're we start to move forward with Pontteras I believe is the consulting >> um the master plan exam most of the

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other studies that we're waiting for are complete at this point. So >> it's time to circle the back and make sure we got everything and tie it all together uh so we can wrap it up and present it to the planning board. >> Yeah. Uh how how will that work? Will there be public hearings and things like that on it?

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>> Yeah, we have to have public hearings and make presentation >> all through the land use board. >> Correct. There'll be a summary presentation here but it's it's a it's a product of land. So the primary >> and this thing with the data center that the land use board's going to be looking at could be included in that.

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>> Yeah. We can incorporate that in master plan recommendations it's a re-examination inside master plan. So it's looking like things like that issues that have come up since the prior. >> Yep. um the I bank planning and design grant uh we receive that lock that in before

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the June 30th deadline for fis fiscal year that is substantial sum to be able to uh analyze and redesign all the storm management systems uh all throughout city um we're able to use that fund to design uh water quality devices and and storm water piping replacements and

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repay roads for them um so this this is funding for the design side um number one right below that 27 water. We're still working on identifying project scope whether it's going to be out there with more replacements in the core of town. We're still trying to pin down,

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but that's the last active thing that I have. >> How long do you think that project will take for all the storm waters? >> So, the contract duration is 180 days. Uh depending on how quickly the pipe installation goes, uh and the timing, you know, if they if they finish up in

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January, we're not going to pay right away. Um, so it'll depend on the weather and all that and trench settlement. We make sure we get a full, you know, 60 to 90 days of trench settlement before we repay. Um, but yeah, the contract duration as of now is 100 days.

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>> Another question. >> Yeah. >> Oh, item number two, ADA improvements, how much was reallocated and to where? >> So, we got $400,000, I think, in the grant. >> Yeah. >> Um, approximately

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200 175,000 of it was designated for that path system. Um so from what I understand we the city is also actively pursuing um the finance commission to

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get them to allow us to install that system. So if they >> they sent the letter >> yeah I think Rick reached out to council reached out to the commission as well. Um, so I I believe, you know, if they yield on their current position and they say, "Never mind, go ahead. We'll permit

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it." Then we'll just shift back to that. And that was the intent. >> Where where did the money go to? What? What part of >> uh No worry yet. Okay. >> We asked DCA for permission to reallocate those funds to make ADA improvements to the snack stand and to the um campground restrooms and showers.

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Um, we figured since our original application included restroom upgrades on the same site, that would be a natural fit because it meets the intent of the original application. >> Okay, great. >> Just in another facility on the same site. So, we kind of candidate to reallocate the funds if we're still, you know, not able to.

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>> And those upgrades are they can use a little >> a lot use polish in there. >> All right. One thing uh you mentioned the senior center ADA improvements. We

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were out there uh walking around with our new DPW guy and um we were looking at the bell tower of the top of that building and it's really in pretty bad shape. I think we need to put that on our radar to uh

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>> get some work. Well, there there's a bell seems. Yeah, >> I have a couple things, too. Are you Are you finished? >> Yeah, go ahead. >> So, I know we're going to go out to bid for the lake stand bathroom. Okay. I

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brought this up before. There's uh one of the one of the I don't know what they're called, the wooden part top of the roof that has the flashing over it. >> Yes. >> That's leaking. And I don't know if that's within the scope of the project. So, we we did ask DCA whether we could

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reallocate some funding to go towards roof repairs and we kind of got a soft no because at the time we were asking for the >> Yeah. the A-frame >> an A-frame pist, right? Um so, I mean I I can go back to been asking for repairs so the facilities water type would qualify.

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>> Yeah. Because it's going to get wet if you don't >> Yeah. Right. We don't want it to ruin the new improvements that are going. So, I I think that's probably a little lighter lift because it would probably be a lot less than we need. Okay. >> Um, and it's not an improvement. It's fair. So, um, yeah, I mean, we just need

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to go back and check. >> Okay. And then, and then I know you said the I bank project's going to start on Philadelphia Avenue, correct? >> They want to get that done before school. >> So, do you have a schedule of what they're doing after that? Because some of those streets that were were dug up

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by American Water >> and just patched over are in, which we already talked about. >> Yes. >> Are in serious need. One of them being Beethoven. >> Yeah. So >> ability to bring >> if if there's any areas where the patches aren't holding up and they're not going to be there for a few months,

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then we can go back to Jersey America and says we got to fix this. We already alleviated them having to pave multiple streets. So if we have to make them come back into town and do some repairs in temporary fashion, I'm not going to feel bad. >> Actually, I think it's Argo because by Tanner's house. >> Okay.

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Really bad. >> Smaller portion of Argo Valley >> and Burger. Burger is bad. >> Well, so burgers cover the next state a that's there's no replacement pipe replacement >> this >> and and also they um just as a side note

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they did a big project at one of my neighbors houses and they probably tore up half of 14th terrace. Do they have to come back and pave that? >> Yeah. So anywhere where they do where they have a linear trench, they have to

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we require full width restoration. So yeah, at some point they're going have to know. >> So do they know that though? So I mean >> we we either got a street opening permit or they asked us for an emergency one for the work that had to happen. Yes, as part of that permit

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>> because the trucks just did uh 12 tur just two days ago, which I was happy to see, but they still didn't put the the apron or whatever you call it, whatever >> like the one section that goes to. >> Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll I'll I'll check on that. But, um yeah, the other section

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I think they did more recently and we want to allow 90 days or seven. Good. >> So, if they have to wait, you know, wait 90 days and there's only 40 days and they we're ready to do the other paper, just do that and go back. Okay. All right. Thanks, Ryan. >> Sure. >> Any questions for Ryan? Anymore?

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Okay. Thank you, Ryan. >> Number 13. Motion to approve use of facilities Lincoln Park Atlantic Prevention Resources Monthly Outreach First or third Tuesday. >> Make a move. >> Second.

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>> Motion made second. All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion passes. Number 14, resolution approving accumulated absence $4,967.31. It's for our administrator, Jody.

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>> Sorry. Is that for >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Is there a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion with questions. >> Yes. I have a question. >> Go ahead. >> That's 60 hours. $4,967.31.

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That comes out to 8279 per hour. What is that salary based on? Is that his when he was the botist? Is that when he was the DPW? Is that when he was the administrator? He has 60 hours. So, where did that number come from? >> The gross salary of 68 together.

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>> It was his gross salary of everything. Okay. Now, if this is on the agenda, then apparently it wasn't in his contract that he got paid for unused because if it's contractual, then it doesn't have to come to council. Correct. >> I mean, I always put accumulated after I

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always put that on there. It's really a >> But was it in his contract that he left? >> Well, was prrated. It's not the full year. It's the time for when he was here. I mean he had 60 days from May 5th to

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July. 60 hours from May 5th to July >> two different things here. This is for his whole time here. >> So he used he used no time when he was here from May 5th 2026 to July 1st 2027.

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>> No, very little. >> Okay. And it was contractual. what it was in his contract that if he left on his >> I don't know if it specifically says in the contract that if leave it's paid out if that's just kind of always the practice because that's the other time that you would have

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>> Yeah. It's time you're entitled to >> Yeah. Like sick time is not paid unless you retire. But vacation >> vacation is a benefit of of employment. So if you leave and you have and you have paid vacation time, you're entitled to it under law.

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>> Vacation personal days you get paid out. >> Okay. Under law. So there's nothing we could do about >> even if somebody's terminated. They're still entitled weeks. Yeah. >> Comes out to like seven weeks. Carl just

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calculated. >> So >> 60 hours comes out to seven weeks. >> No, no, no, no. It's No. What I'm doing is I'm saying eight hours a day. So if you had 60 hours divided by eight hours a day, you don't get that many days. 60 divided by

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>> How did you calculate it? >> Yeah. 7.5 days. Days 7.5 days. >> 7.5 days. So for 7.5 days, he made $4,967. I want to apply for the administrator job. >> I think I think our money for seven

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days. >> I don't think that's correct. >> Well, she said 60 hours. 60. >> Well, that's what it said in the >> Do you do you remember? >> This is just routine. Whenever somebody leave that we pass, >> it's 60 days left. >> That was 60 hours.

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>> Okay. >> 60 hours which equals a week and a half. 40 hours in a week, 20 hours and a half a week. So for a week and a half, >> 168,000 a year. So that's how much a week. So you'd have to calculate. It sounds about right.

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>> All right. So we have a motion and it was seconded. Roll call, please. >> Derby, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. Heist. >> No. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> I'm going to have to say no. >> Send. >> Sure.

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>> Timbers, >> yes. >> Right. >> Yes. We have no choice. >> It's public. >> Okay. Resolution passes. Um, number 15 is a resolution prove salary increase for the city administrator. And as we

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explained to one of the callers, uh this was for the May 5th to July 3rd uh increase that he was entitled to of 2 and a.5% and it comes out to seven

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something Jody $700 and so >> yeah. So is there a motion? >> Second. >> Motion made secondy. Roll call, please. >> No, I have questions. You didn't ask for questions. >> Okay. Question. >> Question. This was a selfie vow. >> This was what

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>> a selfie vow. He self-evaluated himself on his job. If my boss would have said to me, "Self-evaluate yourself." Guess what? I would have been the best employee according to >> Were you here for that evaluation? >> I was. >> And we all listened to We all had questions. Right. So, we questioned everything that he told us. >> Right. But what I'm

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>> And we also observe a lot of the >> Can I finish? >> Yeah. But I'm I'm telling you, >> you ask for questions. I'm giving my question and then you >> You ask for questions. I did. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> You No, you said questions or comments that came out of your >> I didn't say you was. >> Well, there has to be by law.

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>> Okay. Go ahead. >> So, my question is where did the 2.5 come from? >> That was >> you have between 1 and 3%. You did 2.5. That's on the higher end. >> One of the things if you remember the the vow that we talked about that was

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discussed during that executive session. So that's where the number came from because I have it in my notes and we can't vote in executive session and when we came out of that uh we we did not do

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a resolution. So when it came time to calculate his time that we just voted on, >> [clears throat] >> um this was calculated in and said we owe him this money from March the 5th to July 3rd. Comes out to about $700.

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>> Okay, I have a couple questions now. >> How many employees go through evaluations and who does these evaluations? >> This was you talk about contractual. This was in his contract. >> It was in his >> that we would have an eval of him after

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the first of the year. >> Okay. So he did self-evaluation. I remember that when he did >> that is a standard procedure for the city. >> What about all the other employees? I do the lake uh supervisor

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and not anymore and the police chief. >> Anybody else? Every every employee is generally evaluated by their superiors, >> right? So Jerry would have done for the other department employees in every department and they get their raises every year.

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>> I'm wondering if they go through this evaluation process. >> Okay. >> Kind of two different issues. So there should be there should be an annual there should be an annual employee evaluation >> by their supervisors. That's something I'm not I'm not labor council here, but that generally something that's

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recommended um for all workforce, not just public employees. A lot of your employees are entitled to um annual increases under their public bargain agreements, >> right? >> Including, you know, police or probably has a salary and things like that. So

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even if the evaluations maybe not necessarily glowing um they are they would be in whatever their their CBA provides them or the >> so the other employees have uh they're covered under a union contract or

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there's no other employees that are have individual contracts. >> Well, our personnel manual says that they're entitled to evaluation. Yeah, the the chief of police may I don't know, mayor, if the chief has a contract >> does not have a contract. >> Yeah, a lot of Yeah, a lot of towns do

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use, but administrators always have contracts. >> And then years ago, I started the evaluation process. I have an evaluation form that I chose blah blah blah and she does all her employees and if anyone any of the

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whoever wants to do an evaluation it's right it's st right in the personnel manual >> this was actually requested by him and it was in his contract >> so we did it and that's how it came about. So >> and and one more question do we have any employees work for the city who are not

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covered under a uh collective bargaining agreement? There are >> there are people here. >> Yes. >> And they >> traditionally they've gone by what the teamsters contract says. >> So okay. >> So >> and I do know that when I was on the DPW

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chair, we had guys on there that had issues or something. There was financial. I think at one point we withheld a raise until a certain amount. I'm trying to remember back, but um it was a quite a few years

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ago, we withheld like a an increment because for a certain amount I I forget how it went, but you can do that with a contractual employee. You can withhold an a you'd have to get through a disciplinary process, >> right? Right. And that's what it was.

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Well, yeah. You can't just say, "Oh, I don't like you." But it was disciplinary progress through an employee that was in DPW. >> Yep. I mean that that would make sense. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, we have a motion and it's been

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seconded. Roll call, please. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Ice, no. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> I was not in the executive session, so I'm going to abstain my vote. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Write, >> yes.

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>> Resolution passes. Okay. Uh number 16 is resolution amending the salary re resolution of 2026. Joe, do you want to explain this? >> Um this is to uh

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have Brian um our one of our code enforcement officer was originally going to also possibly be building some code when he was hired. He is just going to be code enforcement. So this is bringing him to the first year code enforcement salary. >> All right. Is there a motion? I'll make the motion. Second.

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Questions on the motion? Roll call, please. >> Doby, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. Heist, >> yes. >> Kener, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Writes, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 17 is

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resolution chapter 159, recycling tonnage grant of $11,539.95. >> Motion. >> What's that? >> Motion. Motion >> second. >> Motion made second. Questions on the motion? >> Roll call, please.

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>> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. Heist, >> yes. >> Painer, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timber, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 18 is resolution to renew the ACUA contract

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for 5 years. Is there a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion's been made and second. Is there questions? I just got one question. I know I talked to councelor Joby. Um the 2% that's the max that they can go up within those five years. Correct.

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>> No, >> every year it has to >> No, the max is the Philadelphia CPI annually. >> If it can't be less than 2%. >> I got >> So it will go up at least. I mean even

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though it went down this year it going to >> go way up >> in the future >> past the the following. >> Is there a cap on that? >> No >> based on CPI. >> Yeah. So it can't be it can't exceed CPI. >> What is CPI?

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>> Consumerics. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Doby, >> yes. >> Galloway, yes. >> Heist, yes. >> Kenir, yes. >> Ortiz, yes. >> Sen, yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. Right. >> Yes. Resolution passes. Number 19, renew

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liquor licenses July 1st, 2026 to June 30th, 2027 for TA liquor license and the Wrangler license plump question or motion.

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>> Motion made and second. Questions? All in favor? opposed. Resolution passes. 20. Resolution authorizing interim active use status for retail consumption license for the Wrangler license

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number set to expire on 81 2026. A motion. >> Motion made and seconded. Questions? All in favor? >> Opposed? Resolution passes. Number 21 is a

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resolution authorizing Dubois, an associate subcontractor for Remington and Bernick to perform a Bard Owl environmental study the neighborhoods of Cedar Creek. >> Is there a motion?

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>> So it second. >> Motion made and seconded questions. >> Roll call, please. >> Doby, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. Yes. Heist. >> Yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, >> yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Wright,

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>> yes. >> The resolution passes. Number 22. Authorize Dubois and associate subcontractor for RMV engineers to perform a BL and tree environmental study for the Antworp Avenue landfill

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reimburseable through the escrow that they have put. I'll make some motion. >> I'll second it. >> Motion made and seconded. Questions? >> Uh only have a question. Is that 21? Is that reimburseable? >> No. No. >> That's for the, you know, depending on

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what we do. DA Carbon North. Okay. So, um, roll call, please. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, yes. >> Sen, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Ra, >> yes. >> Okay. Resolution passes. Number 23, a

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resolution authorizing a memorandum of understanding with Skate AC, Inc. for the lease of city property. Is there a motion? >> I'll make a motion. Second. >> Motion made second. Mr. Attorney, would you elaborate a little? Yeah, as you

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know, we've been back and forth with um folks from the city and actually what the resolution does, it allows us to u finalize the negotiations with the which we'll we'll provide the council once it's finalized. Um the terms are essentially set. Um you know they have

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to put up an escro, they have to go through land use board, they have to go do uh >> pine >> pine lands. They got to get all their approvals. They got to um the escro will pay for any of engineering's costs. They need legal costs in in any of that

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process. um they will lease the property, build it out, and then turn it back over to the city. Um they've also agreed to do all capital maintenance on the uh on the park. Um not like the general grass cutting and stuff like

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that and and we wacky trash collection, but to the extent that u any of the ramps or foundation or anything frayed, they'll come in and they'll fix it. Graffiti, things like that. And that all licensed So, uh, this is a step forward.

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Um, once assuming council approves this, I'll then finalize the memor memorandum under understanding on the terms that we just spoke about. They'll post escrow um and they'll start their application

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process uh to the land use board. before that they have to do a significant amount of fundraising um because all of the build out is will they'll bear the cost of all the build out sign out >> well there was an issue with the lease

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though in the past where they they >> originally we were talking about a long-term lease similar to the key wreck >> association however they they didn't want to go into it lease like that so this escrow thing And and for the

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maintenance part of it, they're agreeing to that, >> right? But as far as the lease goes, do they agree on like a set time though? Like maybe they wouldn't hold it for like two years and then turn it over to the city or >> they're going to hold it throughout the construction >> throughout the construction. >> Once the construction's over, they'll turn it back over to the city.

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>> Councilman Timbers uh actually signed a statute to these Atlantic City where it allows um public entities to enter into these type of agreements with nonprofits where where so they basically donate a park that's essentially what they're doing for you guys. I do think, you

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know, Ryan and I have been on the a number of calls with the CAC folks. I think they're excited about the project. Um, and I I'm not saying this to be critical of them in any way, shape, or form. I'm saying this more of people who haven't dealt with Pelands before

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>> are going to get into this process where >> Well, I was telling them the other day about I mean, they already know they knew what they were getting into. >> Yeah. So, I I think it's I think they're excited to get started. I do think it's it's it's not opening next week. >> Well, yeah. They know

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they kind of got >> Yeah. >> And to your point, Mr. Ortiz, um this is not what we agreed to when everybody was here, >> right? >> But it is a modification of that based on their conversations getting them to the table to say they'll they'll do this

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far, right? and [clears throat] >> which I'm happy either way to still go through with it all, but it was definitely a shift from what we had all spoke about when we first sat down compared to where we're at now, which I mean, like you said though, they're they're going to hopefully they can stick through the whole entire process

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and then make it to the uh >> light at the end of the tunnel. >> The idea is ultimately that they'll donate a um a skate park to the city and then they'll be responsible for any capital maintenance of the state skate park. >> Um Skate, right?

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>> Yeah. As long as the skate park, >> I believe in them. >> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Doby, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heis, >> yes. >> Kainir, >> yes. >> Ortiz, S, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Right.

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>> A resolution passes. Number 24, resolution authorizing referral to the AC Carver City Land use board to perform a study on data centers, server farms, hypers scale facilities, and similar facilities. Is there a motion?

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>> I have a question. I mean, if >> we we got to do the motion. >> Sorry. Sorry. >> Okay. Motion first. >> Motion. >> Okay. Motion has been seconded. Questions now. If, as you said at the beginning of the meeting, we see no

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reason why this would ever materialize in our town, why are we why why don't we just pass a resolution that says there will never be a data center in a garbage city? I mean, doesn't this open the door to >> No, >> maybe there might be the possibility

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that we could accommodate one of these things. I mean, why are we even looking at it? >> Yeah. So, what what it's a good question. Um a lot of towns have in our research in our opinion there's been cases not in New Jersey but but

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throughout the country um where towns will come in and and do a blanket prohibition on the data center for example. Um we believe that that you'll subject if the data center were

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to come in and try to site it to a significant challenge and you wouldn't have good defense against that challenge. But if okay it goes through a study right >> and if it's um >> it's a caist >> this is a ca >> yeah if it's deemed inconsistent with

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your master plan and there will there will be a definitive study done show just why it's inconsistent with master plan it the city's position >> very well yeah >> in the in the cities though that did the blanket like ban of them what was the outcome did they ever go against it they

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had already like made a motion said we didn't want it in our city and it was ever overturned where they still made it to where they ended up getting >> there's a federal case out of Ohio and um pardon me I don't have a site off my head but where there was a lawsuit and

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it was found to be >> you know the the ban was uh not in the data was allowed that what they wanted to say the other thing is I mean look there's other and and again for anybody listening you know a harbor has a whole

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bunch of challenges the normal development, you know, let al you know when you have pine lands, you have an incredible amount of wetlands in city um which you know right off the bat you know computer parts and wetlands

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don't go well um and pilands is is really really tough to get through just for building but um uh but there is you know towns that have more land mass um that would more optimal to a data center

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to it, but they don't necessarily want it next to a residential neighborhood, but you can site it. So, I've seen other towns where they'll do man food reevaluations to zone it in a specific area in like an industrial area so that

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it's not downtown and that's been u that's been affected. So, but your your town I'm not the engineer, I'm not the planner, but I suspect that it's based on the land constraints and um

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topography of the city. I'm fairly certain it's going to be against that. >> Okay. >> So, Scott, directly to your point, u there's actually an article today that Pennsylvania based developer is suing Andover Township in New Jersey for an

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arbitrary mutual ban, >> right? >> Those are two words no one wants to hear. >> Those are very arbitrary species. >> You don't ever want to hear that. >> Too late. I mean it makes it makes the

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>> we just heard it be sleep tonight. >> The ban the ban is is not based on any any substance or any facts master plan. >> You have you have a defense then justification. >> Right. Right. >> Okay. Makes sense.

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>> Any other question? >> That was great. >> Okay. It's been motioned and seconded. All in favor? >> Opposed? Resolution passes. significant >> number 25 is award contract for

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consulting certified arborist services >> table that or pull it >> y >> for the next meeting >> is there a motion >> I'll make a motion to table it >> second motion has been made and seconded to table this roll call please

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>> table >> we don't need it for this okay all in favor >> oppos Motion or resolution tabled. Introduce ordinance number 26. Ordinance number 12-2026 amending the code of the city of a

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harbor part two general legislation chapter 159 vehicles and traffic parking standing and stopping. Um, this will be uh noticed on our city website for a public hearing on August 13th

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>> for the parking on uh >> north side >> Buffalo I mean Buffalo and Argo. >> Yeah. Okay. It's not to stop. [clears throat] >> No, it's I think it's extending the parking. >> Yeah, >> it's Araville Beethoven. >> Nope. No parking on one side of the

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street so trucks could get through. >> Right. >> Okay. >> Is there a motion? I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> Motion has been made and seconded. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. The ordinance introduced.

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>> Number 27 is the bill list. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Is there questions? Roll call, please. >> Doby, >> yes. >> Galloway. Same. Heist. >> Yes. Kenir, >> yes. Or >> yes. >> Sen,

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>> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Wright, >> yes. Okay, bills are paid. Number 28, public comment. Anyone wish to be heard on any issue? >> Uh, hello. >> Oh, hello. >> Yes, go ahead.

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>> Um, this is Michelle Madison from from 509 Fifth Terrace and um I just wanted to leave with some final comments. Um, first thing is just that there are a lot

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of good eggs in the harbor. I'm very interested in the projects. Yes, I said that there are a lot of good eggs in the harbor. Meaning we have some great people here. We have a wealth of wonderful people in the city. Very

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interested in the projects, the grant opportunities, um, growth. I [snorts] actually have a couple of ideas and uh some business confidential business plans that I would like to share with somebody if that's a possibility.

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I would like to know um may I ask who the city's risk manager is? >> The risk manager >> Dagistino agency >> Dagustinino >> Hamilton Hamilton.

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>> Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Um Mr. Kener, you mentioned that we're really close to the to the studio and again trying stay open-minded here. Um, but I'm very doubtful of this project.

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Um, I I hope that everything works out well. And I think with maybe some of my ideas, I may be able to lend you some some alternative options that could really bring the city to the revitalization that we're looking for as well as preserve and uphold the city's

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German heritage. >> You know, Michelle, I would I would welcome you to come in and meet with us and discuss >> and guess that would be great if I could >> discuss those ideas with us. We're we're welcome to hear your ideas for sure. I

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know a lot of professionals, experts, and other people who um could be involved in this as well. I want to do what's right. And you know what? Um I want to show up for my city. So, I appreciate what you're doing. Um as far

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as data center research, uh those best uh I think they're they're called best storage um centers and those huge battery packs. They involve a lot of maintenance. Um, I personally have a couple of opinions

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on those. Um, and having one of those out in the woods if the concern is with forest fires, if something goes wrong, um, it's really going wrong. So, I would encourage you and the land use board to research NFPA,

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FM Global, AM Best would be some great starting points for research. Um, as far as item number 15 goes, sometimes you pay and you lose. Um, but

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I would have really questioned that position and the applicant's resume because I think the writing was on the wall there and I think the bigger opportunity right now is for the council and the city officials to really look at

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what happened. Hearing that we lost some teachers is really disappointing and we have a lot of opportunity to to improve the safety in the city. So, thank you for hearing me. Um, I'm going to

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continue to show up as much as I can, but I do have to really limit my my time that I spend here with you um and and doing my research. Um, yeah, that's that's really it. >> Just get in touch with me. Uh, my

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email's on the website. You can email me and uh we could try to set up a time. >> Okay. Thank you so much. Thanks. >> Thank you, Michelle. >> You got it, guys. Take care. >> Okay. Anyone else wish to be heard? >> Please state your name and address, please.

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>> Wait a minute. Before we get started, since they already mistake me as the administrator, I want to hear how great of your job. >> She got one extra thing to say. [laughter] >> Excuse don't fall. >> Be careless. >> Guys did an amazing job.

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All of you. Anyway, um Jerry will be missed. He was amazing. Hopefully, you know, this new guy, I'm sure he'll be able to fill his shoes. You know, kudos to you guys paying what he was worth because wouldn't it be messed up if you guys

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didn't get paid the money that you guys were owed? So, thank you guys for doing that is right. Some of you guys know how to do that. Anyway, I don't know if you guys know, but the cheerleaders are having a fundraiser. You know, we got to do our own thing.

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Anybody want to come out? >> Got to say the date. Say the date. Day to date. The day is Sunday. I'd like to see everyone bring their cars. Even though they can't move in those empty lots, let them bring them over there, please. >> To where

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>> is that? Peters. >> Yeah, we're going to rent >> Petra's old building. We'll fill it up. >> I got you. >> Yes. Please participate. Help out. Give to kids need it. >> And um you guys have a good evening. Thank you. Keep on doing amazing job.

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keep this place together. YouTube, >> I saw the I saw like a sneak peek of what the uniforms are going to look like. >> Oh, yeah. They're really cute. >> They are. >> They're really cute. Hopefully make enough money to get taxi girl the uniform. Thank you guys. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else?

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Are you sure you want to come up? >> State your name. State your name and address, please. >> [laughter] >> Chicago according to city for the past

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>> 59 years >> for five years 55 years. >> So in in goodwill I'm going to say two things. I have sat up there and I've sat back there. When you speak to each other you should do it in the proper decorum. Not hollering, not trying to get your

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point across but definitely not weak. And I've seen some of that tonight and it's really a shame. >> So in saying that, I will tell you everybody up here deserves kudos. It's not easy. However, I have read many things that people post on Facebook,

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especially concerning >> especially concerning um the former city administrator's pay. And while doing that, I did recall some things that we had a former employee get paid some back

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pay he decided was owed to him by a member that he shook hands with that no longer lived here and was the city council president and the city council people gave him his money. So, with that

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said, when you make an agreement with someone and a contract in whatever way, they're entitled to the money. That's just the way it works, especially in public service and in service at your own jobs. So, when you go to work and you punch in, they pay you. If they

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don't pay you, there's a problem. You don't go to work the next day, maybe. But our city administrator is no longer here. And while he was here, he started day one by going out to DT DPW. Now, I'm

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not sure if everything I say is correct, so bear with me. There was no grind. There were no crowds ready. >> There was no salt, >> no truck, >> no truck to cut it with, nothing. He jumped up like madman, Superman, and got

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it all done so that we could play he could plow the streets with our limited crew. Now, imagine that if we didn't have somebody like that that you had hired that had the where all and the ability to get some of that stuff on

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hand to get the city going. So, whatever the qualms may have been with him, he was excellent to work with. Uh, I'm going to miss him because I think he did a great job for the city and I think that he was overqualified for the things

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really we needed to have done here. But he jumped in when the place was in shambles at the highway garage and he cleaned it up. There was an instance that I do know of where he came in one day and the young people that were in there were sitting around and he said,

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"Come on, we got to get to work." He said, "We don't work in the rain." Who ever heard such a thing? He said, "What do you mean you don't work in the rain?" "Well, we don't have any reindeer." He came right back and he ordered reindeer and they worked in the rain. Then there was also an instance where he came in

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and they were all doing other things and he squashed that, too. So, just remember when you're in here fussing about paying the guy $700 or $5,000, he earned the money. It's his. It's what the contract said. You don't want to pay him, that's fine. But he worked and he worked hard

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and he deserved that money. So I'm going to just say that for the last time that when you sit up here, be respectful of one another. Good grief. You live in this town with each other. You're going to see each other everywhere. You want to have hurt feelings forever. This is this is not the town that we all know

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and recognize. So people like three minutes. >> I I just want to say I want to say one thing just about everybody up here if they remember. I was very critical initially of the pay. So what I did was

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I started googling it. I started looking and and uh researching because that's what that's where my background is. I've researched if there's a business administrator that wears two hats, what is the salary and what he got is what

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they get. It wasn't wasn't a question of he was being overpaid. who's just being paid what a business administrator that wears an additional hat receives. They can people they Google is their friend. It's available. They can ask chat GBT AI

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if we work for them. They're they will get the exact same number or some approximation of it. >> And you were free. >> Steph, you forgot to add that I had to hire evergreen landscapers to salt the

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roads. You forgot to ask >> cuz we had no salt or salt or trunk. >> No trunk. >> We were really in a panic. I mean, you guys don't realize that, but we've been an ice sore. >> You know, we called in everybody. Everybody came and helped. >> Thank you, Mr.

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>> Well worth it. >> Thank you, Mrs. Kuner. >> Anyone else wish to be heard? Okay, we're we're going to take a quick break to go into executive session. Oh, I'm sorry. We can do the comments after we come out of executive

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do it now. Okay. >> I have no problem. >> We can go we can go into we're not going to take any action out of executive session. So we can go executive session meeting. Okay. >> As long as public knows that we're not doing any we're not taking any official action. >> All right. So mayor

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>> no comments. Thank you. >> Mr. Wright. >> Yeah. Just uh a couple things to clear up a little bit with Komi where the cheerleading thing is um this Sunday from 9 to 12:30 at the old petros. Also there'll be one August 16th for the

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girls to help raise money. Um summer league basketball has officially came back at Cedar Creek on Monday nights. Uh football has officially started next week. We'll be out there five nights a week. Um basketball will be starting the end of September.

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Um all the boys and girls or all the boys are at Cedar Creek right now at a um high school camp that the coaches are holding for them. Um so right now yeah they the numbers are up so program must be doing something.

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The kids keep coming. So we'll see see what happens. >> Thank you. Y thank you Mrs. Galloway. Uh I just wanted to mention that that um preserving the harvest program that we had to cancel twice because this room is not complete will be held [laughter]

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before the end of the summer hopefully and it might even be better than what we had planned earlier and then I hope to see everybody at the peace pilgrim celebration wall in so forth on Saturday. Hopefully it won't rain on.

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>> Thank you Mr. Timmers. Only thing I could think of was a please LeBron go Argentine. >> Mr. Tubby, please. >> Yes. >> I don't have >> Mr. Ortiz. >> No, >> Mr. S.

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>> Yeah, nice job on the Lincoln Park U gazebo and tear down. I think it looks nice and fresh over there. And also the water tower looks very nice. >> You like that? >> So, yeah. I can see the water tower from my deck

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my backyard and there was a guy standing on the >> I saw the post. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Anyway, that's all I have. >> Thank you. >> This This is >> I just have one other thing about the water tower. I live close to the water

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tower. You can hear everything they're saying up there while they're really Mrs. Ice. >> I have nothing. >> Nothing. Okay. Um so we don't adjourn here, right? Um you can

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um you can you can so just we're going into close session and discuss potential litigation. Uh no formal action will be taken after that. So what'll happen is we'll close the public portion of the meeting now go into executive session and adjourn directly executive session.

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>> Right. So we're going to go in the spectrum. I was going to say >> where you >> through the doors to the right.