I aliance to the flag of the United States of America to the stands nation under indivisibley and justice for all. >> I'd like to call the December 18th, 2025
city council harbor city meeting to order. In compliance with the open public meetings act of the state of New Jersey. Adequate notice of this meeting of common council was provided in the following matter. Advanced written notice was posted on the AC Carver city
bulletin board. It was noticed on the AC Carver city website and also in the Hamilton Gazette and the Atlantic City Press. Like to call for roll call, please. >> Mayor Jim Petty here. Clark here. Dad >> here. Doby
>> here. >> Galloway here. Heist >> here. Pessie >> here. Kenir >> yes. >> Ters >> here. >> Wright >> here. >> Okay. Number four is our mayor's presentation of awards. So, I'm gonna let talk a little bit
about the award and the I would just like to say thank you very much for your service and get it. >> You talk about that.
So, um, many of you may remember October 13th, we uh had a pretty big storm. Um lots of flood waters. Lower bank road is notorious for being flooded. Um we had already put homes and barriers out to
make sure that nobody drove down the two miles such uh somebody decided that they needed to do that and subsequently got stuck. Um the person who was in the vehicle could not. Um so Sergeant Mangle
in all of his shooting here waited through at least the case of my daughter. Yes. Um for I don't know exactly how long camera made it look like it was very very long distance. Um what would you say?
Thousand. Um, but this is something that I'm not surprised by. Angle, it does always go above and beyond. Um, and he went through the water and showed extreme patience in dealing with a gentleman who
was, you know, uh, if you've ever dealt with anybody who's in a situation where they are feared for their lives, not necessarily the most coherent, not necessarily the most cooperative, but Sergeant Magnet was able to talk him down and was able to get him to safety. There was also Vince Samaritan who had a
lifted truck who did wind up picking them up and driving them back to I don't know if I would make um but uh so for herois you demonstrated in risking your own life to rescue a motorist stranded and in driving flood waters on the lower bank road on October
18th would like to present you with this present you with this life saving award. We'll try to have a good result. Anything else? >> Okay. Number five on our agenda is
approved minutes November 13th, 2025. >> Made a motion. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the minutes? All in favor? Opposed? >> Motion passes. Number six is public comment for any
agenda items excluding the ones listed for public hearings. Yes. Service office. Good morning, mayor, council, employees, residents. Those of most of you probably know me. Those of you don't my name is Mark Emmer. I'm an attorney in Oklahoma
City. I've been in the tournament for 24 years now. Lifelong resident of town. I moved out several years ago with this. Um, the reason that I'm here tonight is I represent Tom AI and Rose Leafy who I
believe the properties that they're talking about in the resolution, although they're not named, and please correct me anybody if I'm wrong, was uh is 2566 Terrace Street, 27 Cincinnati
Avenue, 229 Cincinnati Avenue, and 240 New York. Is that correct for the data? Can somebody exactly that sounds from us? That's what we're talking about. >> What I'd like to do is just give you an idea of where we're at, where where we got how we got to be where we're at
tonight and then give you an idea of where we're at with trying to take care of these these locations. On August 18th, 2025, Mr. providing Miss Leapy received notices of violation and orders to terminate unsafe structures under
section 23A on the flow listed properties 128 Philadelphia Avenue, 2566 Parish, 227 Cincinnati Avenue, 229 Cincinnati Avenue, and 240 New York Avenue. Five
structures. The notice state the following. All buildings or structures that shall become unsafe or unsanitary or that contain deficient or blocked exit plate facilities or which constitute a fire hazard or are otherwise dangerous to human life or the
public welfare or that by reason of illegal or improper use or occupancy shall be deemed unsafe buildings for structures shall be taken down and removed or made safe and secure. A vacant building that is unguarded or
open at the door or windows shall be deemed a fire hazard and unsafe within the meaning of the statute. Uh the compliance date for these were September 15, 2025, a period of 26 days later. They asked us to uh uh look at
repair, evaluate, get the get the professionals in mind and get the work done on six buildings in 26 days. Um we then contacted code enforcement because the question was what does it
take to make the building to make the building safe? Again the the uh notices said we could make them safe rather than tear them down. So we inquired as to what does it mean to make them safe. The first place we inquired of course was we went to code enforcement and we asked
some of the individuals in code enforcement what does it mean according to the statute to make it safe and the answer we got was I have no idea what it means they told us it's not that corruption official but rich Saunders and he would guide us on what we should
do so we did what they said we got a hold of Rich Saunders and we asked him Rich what you know what do we have to do to make these buildings safe or what do we down to what we have to do. And he said that um
he said that what we had to do was that we had to first secure a um a architect, have the architect look at the buildings, have the architect do a drawing of what had to be done to to either fix the buildings if they could
be fixed or if they couldn't be fixed, tell us that they're unsafe. and then we would have to make a move to demolish them or whatever we were going to do. Once we got the drawing, we were to take the drawing to code enforcement. We would give the drawing and the paperwork to code enforcement and they would give
us if if it was proper, they would give us a building permit allowing us to do whatever repair we had to do on the structures. So knowing that that that's what we want that he wanted us to do, the first thing that we did was we secured the services of Benjamin Risley
who is a professional architect. Most of us know Ben. He's from a harbor. We wanted to use somebody local if we could use it rather than have a business go out of town to some foreigner from out of town. So Ben started right away and
the first one that he looked at was um New York Avenue. He went to New York Avenue. He uh did his did his uh review of New York Avenue, drew the paperwork up. He brought the paperwork to to code enforcements. And the buildings
department recently, very recently, gave us a building permit saying, "Here's what you have to do to repair the building." So, being that we got a building permit, we were under the impression that, okay, we don't have to tear it down. We have to just follow the
guidelines that are of the of the the architects were. We contacted Dario Block, another local businessman. Dar Dario is a builder and a construction guy. He uh he looked at he drew up what
he had to draw and he helped us get the permit and and the permit was drawn. At the same time, at the same time we were doing that, we're in negotiations with uh Vision Equity, which is an equity firm out of Ventner, New Jersey, who wanted to buy the property. We have
entered into a fully executed agreement with Vision Equity to purchase the property at 240 New York Avenue. Uh they've sent their paperwork to their uh title agency. The title work has been done. We were initially going to close
at the end of October. Vision Equity had a problem with that and now they have a closing scheduled for the building on December 28th that the building will be sold and go into the hands of Vision Equity. So two things with that building. We should have a building
permit which is that he gave us to that it's okay first to fix it if we decide to fix it and then on the other hand we have a signed agreement of sale which we hope that we do. we would rather sell it at this point rather than tear it down. So I think that explains uh where we're
at with 240 and I don't see a need for the city to move forward to try to tear it down when we have an agreement of sale and uh we have a building permit signed by the city that says you can fix it. You don't have to tear it down. So that takes care of of 240. At the same
time, we drove the committ 128 Philadelphia. 128 Philadelphia Avenue was the building that a car backed into, broke the two PL glass windows in it. We boarded the building up. We boarded the two windows up the same way Weiss Becker Cleaners was boarded up for years and
years and years. But we were told that we couldn't keep it boarded up that we had to fix. So again, we hired Dario Lock. Dario did what he could do. Draw up the papers to do. Dario went with drew another permit, a building permit
from the city to fix it. And Dario began repairs on it, fixed it, put the windows, not to interrupt you, but that property is not. It's uh 227 Cincinnati, 229 Cincinnati, 2566 Terrace, and 240
New York. >> I understand that. I just the reason I'm naming that building is just and you'll hopefully you'll understand it at the end is it was one of the fine buildings that we were given uh notices on that we've had to take action. So we tried to
take action on the ones that we could do the quickest and get the work done on them and get the buildings back back to where they were. So then um that that brings us to 1658. That was another building 1658. I know it's not one of
these, but you'll hopefully will understand that at the end 1658 was a building that had a house on it. We dem we demolished the house. We got permits. We demolished the house, but the the uh the uh foundation wasn't filled in. Foundation was deep and it was left
open. So, we were told that we had well, we we knew we had to build it the uh it was unsafe and we had to fill the basement in. So, we had to empty the basement first. They build it for dirt and now that's up the ground level. At the same time, Mr. Saunders looked at the building that's there. It's like a
barn and he noticed that it had holes in the roof. So, we contacted Darrier Block again. Darrier got a permit for it. Again, a permit and fixed the fix the uh did the repair work on the roof. So, the first as we started moving through this,
we're getting permits for every building that we're supposed to get. But these things take time. Weather's bad. you can't get permits and you know immediately. And while we were doing this, we sent in at the end of September, we sent a
letter to Rich Saunders bringing him up to speed on what we were doing. And because it was only 26 days to fix them all, and we knew we couldn't reach that deadline, we asked him for at least a 30-day extension. That's we asked for in the letter today. We sent him the
letter. I know he received the letter. We were never notified. No, you can't have the extension. We were never notified, yes, you can have the extension. Not being notified that we can't, we took it for he was allowing us to continue on the work that we were
doing to try to straighten out all all of the properties. Um then we come to uh 227 229 Cincinnati. for some time well before these um these notices were sent out. We were in
negotiation with a groups who I think most of you are familiar with. He was going to buy this all of Mr. Audi's properties. He was going to buy 227. He was going to buy 229. They were contingent upon him selling certain properties he had in another location
and using that money then to to purchase these. Uh we dealt with him for about a month or so trying to get the deal through. He was never able to sell the other other bills. That deal fell through. Shortly after that deal fell through, we got we started negotiating
again with Michelle Patel and his cousin. They wanted to buy 227, 229 and two and 240. Uh again, negotiations went on for a short period of time. At the end of the day, we couldn't reach an agreement with them. That one fell
through. Finally, we got in touch with Vision Equity from Bentner who wanted to buy all three. >> Vision Equity went out and looked at them. After looking at all three properties, they decided the only one that they wanted to purchase was 240 New York Avenue, which is the one that we're under process. He's in the process of of
purchasing. Now, after we realized that 227 and 229 was in such bad shape, it wasn't going to sell, the decision was made to tear it down. What do we need to tear down 229 and 227 Avenue? We could
just we allow the city to tear it down at the cost of the taxpayers and then leave the property and then we would have to pay the city back. That could be done. Instead, what we did was we contacted Westar Construction again, a
local area businessman that tears buildings down. But a building can't just be torn down. If a building's over 50 years old and where we're at, which is the Pineelands, we have to con we have to send a request for demolition to the Pinelands Committee and uh
commission and we have to wait for them to reply back to us and say it's okay to apply for a permit to tear these buildings down. We have done that on both 227 and 229. We're awaiting pineand permits to get back to us and then we
would be able to start tearing them down. >> Mark, is that Chicago? I mean Cincinnati. I don't mean to interrupt you. >> Cincinnati two. >> Yeah. Because I I not to interrupt you, but I was told by Steve Hadley like two years ago that you applied for finance, but I never heard if you got it or not.
>> No, we did. We didn't apply for 227 and 229. We applied for 1658 and we applied for 236 Philadelphia Avenue. That's the Burger Pub. Because I'll just mention that briefly. We're going to tear that down, too. >> But do you have the Prime Lance certificate?
>> No, we we we send them out. We we we've sent sent the paperwork out the finance. We're waiting for them to return it to us and say it's okay. >> That's Cincinnat. This has been a long >> Well, I don't know what Steve told you, but I'm telling you what we did. I'm
telling you what we do. So we also in order to tear it down, we have you have to get a disconnect from the gas company from South Jersey Gas and you have to get a disconnect from electric and you have to get a disconnect from it used to be a farmer city's water department. Now
it's going to be American Water. We've sent for the disconnect to South Jersey Gas for both buildings. We've sent the disconnects to um Atlantic Electric for both of them. And we received the disconnects from the A Harbor City from
um what's her name? Laura. And we because when we checked with um American Water, they said we don't have any record of anything at those locations. So then we went to Laura and she had everything right there where the meters have been disconnected and the water's been disconnected already from them too.
So all we're waiting on is the the gas company and the and Atlantic Electric. And then once we get the disconnect from them too and we get the the report back from Pineland's commission which we hope is very shortly westar is just waiting for those documents and then they're
going to come in and and we Tomahhati and his wife are going to pay to have them buildings torn down in addition to them two buildings repairing down the Burger Pub on Philadelphia Avenue. So, we'll have those three buildings gone as
soon as we get this these documents back. West Star is just waiting for me to call them and say, "Here, Cody, here's the here's the documents." Then my understanding is they bring them document from the city and present them to the city and then the city gives them
a demolition permit from a Carver City and that gives them the okay to go tear them buildings. That's >> Were Were there any copies sent to the city as far as uh the Pinelands that you sent anything to the Pinelands? >> No, there's not. I can I can I guess I I
can I can have them to use tomorrow. Matter of fact, I have I made copies. I have a but I can I can get all of them requests to you coming in at 9:00 tomorrow morning. I mean, I can you know what? I can get them to you and I can
get the signed agreement of sale for 240 that we have a signed agreement of sale with with uh with vision equity. I can I can produce them for you to help you know if that's something I would like. But what I'm getting at is we we will tear them now. We're we're in a
position. We're ready. And I know you you know you say you've heard this before. All I'm waiting on is them documents from the Pine Lands Gas Company and the Alexa company. We've already talked to West Star. I can't see why
uh after I'm telling you that we're ready to tear them three buildings down that the city could say no, we wouldn't tear them down. We wouldn't want you here. >> Well, Mr. Emmer, I would have to say kind of follow up on uh Miss Hess's uh comment that this has been going on for
a long time. It's not just September. uh they were noticed on the conditions of these properties. The roof in that one building has caved in two years ago. >> We're under that's the one that we have to we're going to >> and when we came into office, one of the things we planned to do was try to clean
the town. And you and I have had that conversation many times. And uh in this case, it's been dragging out, dragging out, dragging out. Not you personally, but you're flying. And so it's it's horrendous to see that property the way
it is. And uh I think what we're trying to do from a code department, I'll call on our administrator to uh talk more in detail, but what we're trying to do is is clean up the town. And one of the things on those properties that have
been identified, tear them down because they're they've been deemed unsafe and it puts a nice lock down. It's very the res if I was a resident across the street there I'd be very upset for not just since September for way longer than
that and there's >> well we're talking about these four properties in particular. So can you elaborate more on what I'm trying to say? >> Just let me mention one thing. Okay. >> You're saying that they were deemed unsafe. We have something that says they were unsafe. We have no documentation
from an architect or anybody, any builder or any any professional that says they're unsafe. >> They're all signed by Rich Saunders who certified the state of New Jersey as obstruction. >> Okay. >> They're all signed by and he's
authorized to sign and deem buildings unsafe. But I'm going to be very careful in what I say because obviously Mr. um AI and Miss Ley have sent their lawyer here. But um I would recommend that you table this resolution because it's just
a resolution. And when Mr. Emmer produces all the paperwork that he's put on the record tonight that he has, then we can reconsider this at the January 15th meeting. If all of that paperwork is produced,
if the permit application is in, if the um >> disconnect fail, the disconnect, all of that, if the estimate of the uh uh demolition that you have from this contractor, >> he just he's he's agreed to demolish
them, right? I I could I may be able to get a I could I'm sure I can get something to from him saying that once we get the permits, he will demolish the buildings. >> So So he should produce all of this information that he's put on the record tonight and then bring the bring it back
if if maybe we don't have to bring it back. Maybe it's all going to be done like like it needs to be done. Um, but if not, then it's going to come back and I'm going to be able to say to the council, I didn't get any paperwork. I didn't get this paperwork. I didn't get back that paperwork.
>> I'm talking about to we I'll touch briefly on 236 we're not tearing down. That's going to be repaired and we'll be able to get in the next couple days. >> It's not on the resolution. And oh, it's not that
>> 240 227 >> warehouse and the terrace >> and that's what I mean the terrace warehouse and the terrace the 566 terrace. >> Yeah, the architect is doing his work on that give he hasn't finished that one.
>> So you can get that paperwork to us quickly. I'm I it may take me a couple days to get his the the architect finished work because he did a preliminary inspection on it, but he has to get inside and and finish his work. But I'll get that done ASAP. But all of
the other documents I can bring to Jerry or Demeg or anybody >> I can put them together tomorrow morning. Rich, >> he's not here all the time. >> Just just another comment. You and I have had conversations about this personally and I I did say we're not in
the business of tearing properties down and if Mr. Audi and of Rose are planning to tear it down and we can document everything as our administr >> and the application to finance he has a copy of that he can provide to us. he
can provide the emails or letters of disconnect to us so that it shows this council that things are being done and we can have a discussion at the next >> I use a question um how soon after producing these documents can you tear those buildings down
>> when you when producing the documents I can't tell you that I I have to wait for the finance to send the >> Okay, so you're still waiting for >> Oh yeah, we don't we don't have any of the authorizations yet we've sent out to the Atlantic Electric Bar and Finance saying, "Here's the disconnect. This is
what we want to do. This is the building. It's over 50 years old. You have to send pictures of the for the finance for me. If you needed two pictures, we can send pictures of it. We got all that. We got all that done." Well, we're waiting for And I know Joe had asked me about uh you know,
timelines. Can you give me dates? I can't give you dates because I don't know when the returns are coming. I can tell you that according to Westar, as soon as we get the authorization signed, they're they're ready to go.
>> So once the Pinelands gives you the authorization, how long after? >> Again, I can't tell you that because Pineand gives me I need to disconnect from the affairs company. I need to disconnect. >> Excuse me. Should that be long, Brian? How long do they give you the does it
take the disconnect for that? >> The disconnect. It could be a while. >> Sometimes it's depends. >> No, it wouldn't be more than if it was more than and I can tell you this.
>> I'll be on the phone with them every day saying where's where's where's the you know where's the disconnect where because as much as the council and professionals want to get this done, I want to get it done just as quick because I have I have this much paperwork in my office of
other things to do, you know. So all of us, I think the quicker we get it done, the happier we all are. >> And I just want to say, I mean, we would have added Catherine's to it had it not have gotten knocked down because that was another one that he had
>> for him. Hopefully he didn't get hurt. >> Not to cut your thing short, but we can we can go to number 25 right now. Is there >> based on question number? >> Yeah, I will. >> Thank you, Go. I'll get it ready. I know. >> Can I ask one more question? Sure. 240
New York Avenue. You said that was under contract. >> Yep. It's going to be sold. Closing is right now that we we feel very very sure closing is December 28th. Because there's some kind of tax implications that if the equity firm sells it in 2025
rather or buys it in 2025 rather than >> save on tax thing that they get vision equation goes to the new owner. State law requires the violation go to the new owner. It just doesn't dissolve because
Mr. Audio misleades sells it. it goes to the new owner and then they have to resolve it, >> right? And they'll do what they have to do to to redo it. His name, the gentleman that I'm dealing with that I believe is the owner, >> that I'm going to kill his last name, Gavin Galyami, but it's vision equity
out of Ventner, New Jersey, is the company. >> And is he aware that there is this issue with the city? >> He has to be aware. >> I just want to make sure. >> And Ryan, can I ask a question? call. >> Um, so for something like this, if the city declares a property as an eminent
hazard, does the city have to go to Pinelands or can the city based upon that declaration move forward? >> So, so you do have to go to the Pelands, but based on prior consultations we've had with them, if they're the last thing that's outstanding and all the utility disconnects are done, I would move
forward with demolition. They had told us on numerous occasions you have a structure that has a public health threat to the public health safety or well to move forward with the demolition process be permitted. That's what they did with 111 when all went through 111 they totally tear it down and send me
the permit. So if that becomes that the last outstanding thing they're behind after the that's the last thing >> and believe me as soon as I get the permits if I don't have finance finance my next call saying hey it's got a safe structure they have all the permits ready
>> okay the administrator is recommending that we table this is there >> I'll make a motion to table second >> motion made second all in favor motion t thank you very much ladies and gentlemen I don't see you have a merry Christmas and happy same
Mr. Primary councilman Ruben, >> but not to not to cut you short, but we're planning on tableling now on this so that there could be more discussion with the potential
under the contract contract. >> Well, that there's Uh, one of our plans on that also is to extend, and we're going to present that to council very soon, extend the existing contract month to month until we have a new resolution.
>> Yeah. You approved it on this adber and it was 16 and 17. >> Tell me an ordinance. >> The ordinance was approved but contracts
were not >> we have an ordinance. >> The contracts would identify the actual tellers and that's what we're going to table. So that there can be discussion with the potential >> toes to >> what
>> no application >> there can't be final application because the deadline was October one application in >> his ordinance was changed after the deadline of October one. How did that happen? >> Can you come up to the microphone so we
know who you are can hear you. Thank you. Appreciate it. >> My name is Patrick Aken. Um, one of the owners may tell also worked in the city as a police officer. So, I'm not a stranger to the city. Um, Lis and Mr. Foreman here have decided to redevelop the property for the body. It's
>> not that we do have a demolition per anyway. >> Mr. Mr. Ammer, it is a little bit of a hassle. So, he is doing his work. He's not lying to you. >> Can we just say we're the clerk's office to take in the applications? There's more than two. Well, why would there be more than two if there's only two lots
in the city? >> Because the ordinance Oh. Oh, you're saying >> the ordinance changed after. And you know, I really don't like to do this, but I have to, but I think the council need to know this. You have a teller, Highway Motors, that you want to extend his contract from, he has been towing cars outside of your city for probably
several years now. It's been a violation of the city, 14 years. Mr. uh John Quo, who owns Cornell's auto body, but the lot he made the deal with where his license sits. So, not only has he been falsifying documents for years, we've been lying to the city and saying he's
selling the cars here to the city and in fact they're going to G. I think that needs to be addressed. And if the man has unfortunately, you know, I don't have anything against them. This is business and it's fair is fair. And if you qualify, you qualify. You know, I just can't you don't you don't. And
that's the way it works. And I think it needs to be looked at. Unfortunately, you have a count you have a person that sits on your zoning board now that has been falsifying an application for 10 years and you guys are I don't think you should extend any contract. But you do have two contracts right now for the
city to continue their towing services. One being Foreman's which has been here for plus years. >> I have been in business for 30 years. I also own a company called Courthouse Towing. We do the Parkway Expressway. We have 45 trucks. I have enough equipment that you don't have to call that Indian
when you get a rollover on a tractor trailer, it goes to a house. If it doesn't happen, we can respond within 20 minutes. Get the and we are all certified. Um, and I and we carry a lot of insurance. I think that's what the city needs. You know, you don't need you don't hire people in your town just
because they say they can do the job. You hire them because they have the qualifications, they make applications, and they qualify. And that's where you're at. you have the two towers that can handle your city 24/7 just as Mr. Foreman has done it for years. I've done it for years. Um, and I just think that
there's an unfair thing here and I think it just needs to be the ordinance. You know, October one was your deadline for your towing applications. They were in two of them that day. Mr. uh, he can speak for himself. Got a phone call from Keith asking, "Oh, I just went and dropped my application off and Pat's going to use your law." And now all of a
sudden October 16th we get a resolution to change the ordinance to let in within five miles of the city. You have to think about that. Five miles of the city opens it up to like six companies. You don't know who those companies are you and you know who he is. So if you just wanted to extend his contract let him continue to tow. I'm okay with that too.
But you don't know these people from Adam. You don't know who they are. You don't know their qualifications, their equipment. Are they going to be able to respond in a timely manner? Are they going to be able to clear the highways in a professional manner that doesn't leave the city liable? because ultimately if something bad happens the city may be viable at some
>> it could be so that's just my my taxpayers >> and we're also not tax >> okay I you know purchased the property there and like I said we're going to develop it so you know >> okay I appreciate you bringing that to our attention
>> you know we however I don't >> the contract the contract except the thing is our contracts were before So far, >> well, you can't extend a current contract that somebody is not >> The only thing is the what you turned in doesn't have correct information either.
>> What's that being? >> Well, what were we >> like when you apply you put your principal address is going to be 224 Buffalo. Is that where you're going to be? >> Yeah. Okay. >> That's you have two contracts there. You have two you have an we have four contracts that we got but but as of October
>> you don't decide if they're not good. the chief does. And ma'am, >> ma'am, ma'am, I do now decide because if your ordinance says the deadline is October 1 and we turn ours in and somebody makes a phone call to somebody and then this whole thing unravels to get other people in, that's wrong.
>> We have to really dig into this. We can tell this is a free service that the city of Vancouver said, >> I have millions of I have million dollars of equipment that I give to the city and say, "Hey, if something happens, I'm going to use it. You don't have to put food on it. You don't insure it. You don't have to operate it. Nothing." And then I have millions of
dollars in insurance. So if something, god forbid, goes wrong, you're still not alive. And if we get to a point where my insurance gets used up and they come after the city, I don't know what happened. So these are the things that had and I I kind of had a feeling the whole council didn't know what was going on. And I'm glad that you do now. And I
think that if you push forward these contracts for these other companies that had no right to even apply because up until now they did as of October 16th after they somebody wasn't going to get on the rotation which I find to be very you know
>> Yeah. Sure. So the 224 buffalo that's what you you just purchased. You said you got >> No. >> So you're running both? >> Yes. Okay. >> I'm running. >> No no no. He is former He's former. >> Okay. I I again I thank you guys for coming and bringing this up.
>> You look at the dates. Little unethical uh that our contracts were in. Then everything gets pushed till uh October 6 to a meeting and it gets uh read November 13th and then approved on the 19th. >> What was the emergency
like what happened? >> There is no emergency. like this would be an emergency. Like you >> One thing that I that that I want to say is we can sit here and talk about it all night. We need legal opinions. We need to look at this a lot closer and we need
time to do that. So we will I'll ask for this resolution to be tabled and we'll talk about whether um what we have to do to maybe maybe a special meeting. I don't know if that's going to happen. Well, the problem is the one tower you have on the rotation needs to be removed
to be he's not in comp. >> Well, we'll get our legal opinion about that. >> Well, I'm just saying he has to cars at the city of Ed City under the old ordinance which contract and they're not being towed to Mr. Oil's lot which is Buffalo. >> Okay.
>> That's something that has to be handled from >> and he's going to improve the building. He's got you friendly involved with the clubs. It's not like small operation like that have and it's going to be an asset for the city. The city sent me a paper. They're having a
thing at Thomas businesses. They need businesses that keep local people away. >> That's not the tech. >> Well, I know. Listen gentlemen, I know you're just this why
million dollar million dollars and this glad they don't go to out of town and like after 30 years never had a complaint. There's nothing me and Keith couldn't handle and never had a lawsuit companies or anything like that and we
me and Keith worked together. So it's to have this little factor or ethic thing get kicked in there. I was never notified. Sure. That's how I was being notified before you ordinance or you know who's the professional that's not a legal opinion. Would you say that Mike
>> Mick um when we do an ordinance if we have towers on the towing list? >> Is it is it required for the city to notify them for changing the ordinance? Um I mean as long as it's publicly there's public duties to provide us then
you know we don't have to specifically go and reach out to every single company >> and then when the application got handed in Mr. Coy the phone >> that's I'm sorry you repeat something >> I I didn't hear you could you just
repeat that >> his application later Mr. get his call that what are you doing right? He was using the yard, but he wasn't using >> I don't I don't follow. I don't understand the building. I don't
understand, you know, you know, Parker City. >> You're welcome. >> You're all here for the same reason. I'm here for the same reason. I'm a business owner. >> The success of my business owner obviously are the people within the town, the fine council, the whole nine
yards. That's how I survive. If you give the business to someone else, me, the taxpayer in the community, doesn't get the benefit from that anymore. >> So, did you know that he was using your yard? >> I did, and I on several occasions and >> Did you bring that to anybody's
attention here? >> I brought it to Mr. Molino's attention. >> I'm talking about from >> He chose He chose not to. Well, the police actually are given releases and the releases that they're given obviously are given that gentleman's address because the people go to pick
their cars up there. So obviously you guys knew >> but he knew your address. So you were part of it. >> So you have the address. I was part of obtaining the license. >> Yeah, he did tell me too, you know. Oh
yeah, we're not towing anything. >> And up to date to >> because I didn't I didn't receive the phone call stating that there was a car that needed to be picked up, but originally when the towing went down, the people were supposed to actually bring the releases to 224 Buffalo Avenue
and stuff like that. >> I'll say from here that we want to be fair and we want to be legal. So, we need to find out what that is and sort all this out and we'll do that as quickly as we can. >> So, when will we know? So, then we're going to you're going to table the
actual awarding of any contract even if it would be just two contracts for the new year. >> We're not going to do any take any action on that, >> right? >> Uh we do if it goes past the first of the year, we're just going to extend what we have for a month just to give us time.
>> Can't extend want because he doesn't comply. >> Well, we'll get a legal opinion. Who are we saying doesn't comply? >> What was >> highway? >> He's supposed to tow cars to 324 Buffalo Avenue in the city. As the ordinance, the original ordinance states all
vehicle must be towed. Your lot location must be located in the city as I harvested. >> Can I ask a question? >> Sure. 224 Buffalo is Cornell auto body. >> Yes. >> That's a tow lot. >> Yes, we >> And you're allowed to store vehicles there. >> It's always been.
>> Yeah. always been since the last. >> Are there limits on how many vehicles you could put in there? >> No. >> You got to squeeze You could squeeze one in. You're not There's There's room in the yard. >> Okay. All right. I just Because I live
on Buffalo Avenue. I didn't know it was a tow lot. It was just >> So, we've done a great job. It's going to work on my cars. >> My whole thing isn't to give somebody a hard time. My whole thing it it is and it it I know it may not sound like it
but it's to keep the business within the city. The the business needs to be kept within the people who pay taxes here. Egg Harbor City people are the greatest people in the world. They are the most loyal people in the world and I get the same customers again and again and again. Billy Cornell build a fantastic
business and uh we've all lived off of it in my shop. I've paid my guys for years. I've owned it for 20 years. you don't have somebody in another area. >> We appreciate that and uh topic understand how this work is. So the
object is he has a body shop. Accident cars that happen in city if they went to his shop he had the opportunity because the car was there to get the job. So that was his benefit to him. So I don't think it was like this is a greedy like money thing. He just wanted the wreck so he can keep his business.
>> And he got If you have access to the car, you have a better chance of getting the job and them sending it to another body shop, >> which keeps his business alive. >> Again, you're correct. I should have probably called the police department and told him what he was doing. But I don't believe in doing that to a, you know,
fellow community member. I mean, he lives here. I I don't believe in doing that. That's not the way I live my life. >> Again, we want to be fair. We want to be legal. Can we can we be notified? Uh, make sure >> I actually I think um we can have a
meeting to discuss it and you can be at that meeting. So >> I wish we would have had this before this this problem would not >> again thank you for bringing it to our attention. >> Thanks. >> So thank you. Can I ask the chief a question for somebody?
>> Yeah. My my question was and chief you and I spoke about this the ordinance what what is the date the date >> they they had to turn in their paperwork on the first >> October 1st you said >> and when did we change the ordinance
>> they just introduced it when September >> October this has been something that >> you were here >> could you come up to a while that um they tow through that both of our tow contractors were
potentially selling or retiring. So instead of waiting for that um when it was like oh the tow contracts are coming up the first code of contract that actually was submitted was by citywide. So at that point in time um the clerk's
office office gave that to me and I approached the business administrator said you know what given that there is talk that foreman and highway may be retiring we need to have other options we don't have any other co- vendors in the town what can we do so we then
decided and talked about moving or what the parameters were going to be somewhere in the ordinance and I was looking at it and I can't find it right now there was something about a storage location within 10 miles of the city because because a A lot of the tow lots here in town, like you just mentioned, are not very large. So, if there's an overflow, a lot of places have uh
overflow storage that is not in town. That was 10 miles. We thought that was a bit much because uh >> it would encompass a lot of >> So, we went with the five mile and additionally there was some contradictory language in the ordinance.
One said five miles, one said 10 miles. So we agreed upon a 10 mile or a 5 mile uh radius >> radius that would include a principal location which is what Mr. Coyle is saying is 224 for ANA towing. Um so
essentially what they're doing is the same thing that the same agreement that Mr. Coyle had with Mr. Mullina is now what he's doing with >> Mr. Aken. So Mr. Coyle's location is not at Aken's principal business location. Um that's
somewhere else similarly to what Mr. Molino was doing. His primary >> So his primary location was on Buffalo A Mullen >> Highway M. And the overflow lot was across the tracks. >> Yes. >> And that was in our ordinance. It was
legal to do that at that time. >> Yes. >> So what he's saying is not 100%. I'm going I wonder that was one of the issue and that's why that was being done that way for all of those years because it was sort of a workaround to the ordinance um because that was the
overflow and they did have an agreement. I don't know what the issue was or anything like that. You did mention and you asked Mr. Kil if he had to ever said anything. No, I didn't know there wasn't an is there was an issue with anything. >> So you don't know highway motors ever dropped cars off?
>> I don't know. I don't know. >> That would be clearly a violation of the correct. >> No, it wouldn't. Why? >> Why would states and cars must be to you show me that because I believe they have they have primary and storage
location. >> She just explained that though. >> You can come up again. >> No, I understand. I understand what you're saying. I don't hold that many points. There's no need for there's no need for >> you just explained why we changed the ordinance. >> Yes. >> Because the lack of
why don't you have highway go down and make a deal with TJs and be on the list still and be done with it. Then everybody's in the city. >> That's what this is really about. We're going to call it. So chief if he doesn't use Cornell's if highway doesn't use Cornell's lot
>> and Cornell you don't have any I mean there's not hardly any ever ever any cars there right >> less than 10 years >> there is no there should be technically no need for an overflow
>> let's take this to >> we don't tell when no cars do have an overflow >> thank you again or plug in for you. >> That's a four lot property 200 car. I mean, it doesn't make sense. There's something more here. I don't get what it is. I don't know why
everybody's playing it so hard. You tell people I'm sure you have more important things like collapsing buildings, but there's there's no underlying reason. >> We did. We did pass the ordinance. That's the point.
>> But he's saying that other ordinance was in place. >> I agree. That's not right. And then once the application that application got changed to get >> that's what is
>> why we all of a sudden change >> yeah I have no idea that's the whole issue application October 1 agenda that change over 16 any report. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm still trying to
process the the timeline here. >> Um, uh, first of all, the Christmas tree lighting in the bazaar was great. Thank you um agency and MP and all my people who participated and especially the fire department and public works. It was
great great evening. Um also the house lighting contest is on is uh in progress right now. Light up your house judging will start judging will continue until the 23rd. Also um just so everybody knows we are
still working on a dog plan. I know this has been of particular interest for everyone because there have been a lot of dog issues and we just had one recently again. So, just a reminder and uh chief's working on this I think with uh the
administrator for the or uh new ordinance um educate residents through a campaign regarding safe secure dog ownership and I'm just reviewing this. We did bring it up before and how and walking dogs in public and current ordinances pertaining to dog ownership
effective safety deterrence including horns and pepper spray. So, this is just an educational process and we need to communicate that information to the residents and make sure that they get it. And that's the important part about
registering your dog, too. A lot of people have dogs that aren't registered, but if you do register your dog, you can get this information and mail to you because we have your address. But a lot of people do not, and they may not know the rules. And down the road uh the code
enforcement will look into the current registrations and we'll try to encourage more registrations and obviously we have to update the ordinance which I think uh the administrator was working on with the chief and is that true administrator and chief
>> in including our city attorney. >> Okay. >> Our city attorney had some experience in this that he's helping us out with. >> Okay. and a couple of things and uh I will let chief talk about that on her her report. Um she's going to plan it.
We have a plan for the uh White Horse Pike, making it more safe, slowing down traffic. Um it's been a real problem. I mean, I think everybody here knows that the the traffic on the Pike is ridiculously high and they're so does their speed
limit as high. So, we have to do something about that and chief's on that. Also, I I spoke to the chief. We we've also had a lot of accidents within the city, crazy accidents. And um I think we at one point in time we did
take u measures to put more stop signs in, especially on St. Louis Avenue. And we discussed at one time putting some on the side streets which would be Argo and Batesovven.
No. Yeah. Argo. No. >> Yes. Didn't we just talk about that? >> So we talked about potentially um potentially um talking about St. Louis right now or all of them. So we talked
about potentially adding stop signs all the way up the intersections. um at the halfway point on each side east and west of Philadelphia Avenue. So, for example, on the east side of Philadelphia Avenue um or of St. Louis Avenue, having stop
signs all the way up the streets on I believe you talked about San Francisco Avenue. So that way um having there be four-way stops at every intersection at San Francisco and um and
up. So, Arido, Beethoven, um, Burger, Camp Claudius. So, that way it creates a bit of a stop instead of having it be a speedway all the way from St. Louis to Freeman. And then similarly over here on this side,
having it be on Washington Avenue with their stop signs all the way up. So, that's not a speedway. Um, so creating four-way stops at the intersection of all the intersections of Washington and the east west street and then uh San Francisco and east west. That's
something that we discussed potentially for speed meetings through town east west >> because it it is really bad. And we did put I know we did put stop signs on St. There was a couple, but I personally believe that they should be on every >> But wasn't I mean, correct me if I'm
wrong, Ryan. When we had those stop signs put in, wasn't there a reason we could only put a couple because of something with the the traffic lights or something like that with the >> So, yeah, the the purpose of installing stop signs cannot be the express reason of slowing people down. It has to be for pedestrian safety improvements,
functionality of intersection, for limited disability. >> Yeah, I think it's all the >> reason that you can put in Well, right. So, we can you can you're supposed to study the intersection and determine what is, you know, the safest configuration. If that is a four-way stop, then that's what you do. And if
it's not, then you don't. On St. Louis Avenue, yeah, I believe we did every other um >> Yeah, we went every other block >> bridge because the kids walk over the bridge, correct? >> Well, that top that stop sign >> and then every other to give people to
>> it stops them. Um, so yeah, that's that's what we determined on St. Louis. There's other corridors we look at. we can go through. Um but yeah, >> well for the purpose of time >> I would refer this to the highway
committee DP or the yeah the high DPW and talk about that with the uh chief >> DPW >> DPW so new stop signs just getting speed bumps because that would be my
>> I don't have speed bumps I just have stop signs. Yeah. Instead of debating it to bring it up, I mean with Philly being a county road, are they going to allow us to do what?
>> I got once they once they pass St. Louis, it's full board wherever they're going outside audience. >> So, all right. So that's what we're working on. And um >> is there somebody out there?
>> No, I mean here out in the audience, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to ask that you respect the the conversation everything that's going on here. >> You said the hallway conversations need to have take it out into the hallway. >> Yes, please. >> All right. So So we're gonna, you know,
we're going to work on that. Chief knows exactly what's in my mind even though I can't get it out, but you know exactly what I want. talked about it. >> So, she's welcome to meet with the Department of Public Works and the administrator to >> discuss that. And
>> don't forget the Christmas parade this Saturday. Step off at six o'clock. It starts in front of um Writtenberg Manor. Actually goes a little bit down Claudius and then to Rittenberg. And um finally, I wasn't here the last meeting. So, um, I just want to thank, uh, Steve and
Ingret for their service to the citizens of Acar City and wish everyone a merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, and happy new year. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Lis. Um, Mr. Wright, >> no. >> Nothing. >> Mrs. Galloway,
>> nothing. Can I have his time? No, I'm only >> Yeah, you have only >> Mrs. Sassy, >> your safety committee. Um, I just want to say the safety committee concerns have been addressed as per risk management. Um, I also want to say, um,
that on the A Harbor City web page, uh, under the public works, you can find links to report potholes. Um, as you probably already know, Aar City has, um, state roads, city roads, and county roads. So on that site they have each
one and you can just click on it and report the potholes. So just so you know 30 is state, 50 is is county and the rest I don't know if there's any others. >> Please correct me. >> Yeah.
>> They're all county >> I think county. Yeah. >> Yeah. It splits small. address our city. >> Can I ask where those uh reports go? >> They go right here. >> No, not all of them. The one um actually
the Well, Jerry probably put it up there, but the state highway you click and you go right on to the state website right through the county and Jerry has the public works department number on there uh as well. >> So, this is on the website. >> It's on the website underneath. Yeah,
underneath public works so everyone knows. And uh that's all I have for safety. But the code committee uh as as a result of Jerry's direction and the collaboration he established between the police department and code enforcement. The department has made significant
strides this year. The accomplishments made where rental inspections and increased considerably. Online scheduling for annual rental inspections is now in place. Online bill play for annual rental inspections are also in place. The landlord notification letter
was updated to include fines for failing to to schedule yearly inspections along with new online service options. Decision was made to remain with the current software company implementation for city-owned trash to enforcement of
house numbering requirements. Um and there's items that they are currently working on and that as you just heard were the demolition of the of the um of the properties that were um abandoned
and dangerous. Um and also they're working on landscaping requirements for new builds prior to the issuance of a CO. I just wanted to say um I'd like to thank the residents that and
the businesses who are doing their part to support a harbor city's shines de initiative um by maintaining their properties in compliance with city codes. I would like to extend my thank
you to everyone who is doing that, businesses alike, not just the residents. It all makes a difference in the way a pover city is presented to the rest of the community. It helps businesses
as well if the community is inviting and clean. Um that's all I have to say for code and rotary. I have nothing to say for the murder. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Council President. Real quick, did you think we had a meeting for the stop sign
for safety? >> No. uh highway and the chief >> no I didn't know I was making sure I didn't miss a meeting say I didn't get an email >> you can to discuss >> I got you I got you I got you
>> okay counselor Mr. members. Um you have license ordinance, land use board and air. >> Uh I have nothing to report. Um only say that land use board they did have a
meeting. However, um I wasn't uh so that would be something I open my own minutes. >> Yeah. Just just adopt. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Because he wasn't there for the original. No, >> was a zoning issue.
>> Yeah, the original thing must be there and inevitable. >> Mr. Dodie, >> u there's no uh there was no public works committee meeting uh since our last meeting. There was a discussion uh
by email and telephone calls endorsing uh the hiring which is on the resolution list tonight of a full-time labor and public works. Is this Clark's school book? >> Uh just that uh the winter break starts
on Tuesday the 23rd goes through the 5th. So there will be many kids out there and if it snows even more. So that's it. Just so you careful of the children. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh number nine is our
uh well for for finance redevelopment. We've had numerous meetings over the last month. >> We've met with potential developers for the Acarbon North. >> We've met with Renault, formerly called Renault
about about a management contract with them and um everything looks promising. There's a lot to negotiate, but uh we have some real good potential projects in the queue. So, uh, we look forward to
that going forward in in the new year. So, number nine, we have chief of police report. >> Some numbers for you. So, since we last met on November 13th to now, we've had one burglary fall, two incidents of facilities, one simple assault, 13
deaths, uh 29 motor vehicle accidents, 14 pedestrian stops, 186 traffic stops, total of 91 citations issued, three DUI arrest, uh then 39 overall arrests, that's including three DUIs. um six business alarms, four residential
alarms, 213 crime prevention activities, three criminal mist calls, 15 domestics, 14 EMS incidents, six firearms applications, 16 follow 700 checks, and 15 public service calls. Um I would like to thank everybody who did donate for
shop. We have sorry holidays with heroes. Um do not want to uh not include our firefighters and our military and EMS. Um so it was a great time. There will be thank you letters coming uh forthcoming. We did just get some uh
information and some photos from uh EHT pal, but it was fun. Um we were able to uh do something very special thanks to our fire department. One of the children that was selected was uh unable to actually go shop on that morning because
she recently had surgery. So what we wound up doing is I spoke with pal. They did provide me a gift card and I was able to get another gift card for her. who took the fire and booked Santa to her house and gave her uh the gift card um after Santa made his appearance at
the tree. So um I'd like to thank HT Pal and of course our fire department for helping to make that happen and of course anybody who did donate. Thank you very very much. Um the smile on the kids faces is priceless and you know it's a it's a good time. Um except for the
people who were shopping at Walmart, >> Wally World. >> Um so the mayor already mentioned that the tree lighting in the room are very very successful. I was very happy to see as many people out there raving cold
because it was cold. Um I had on my snow pants because I was not going to be free. So uh thank you to everybody who made that happen. Um, one thing that the mayor did mention is, um, some crash statistics versus some crash information. So, uh, one of the things
that Atlantic County has been in the forefront of and that state, uh, other counties in the state will be following our lead is we did the carriage program. I spoke about that before where it was initiative by uh multiple municipalities
to attack um traffic issues uh on areas that were identified as high crash areas and um high speeding areas. Uh we were out here on the White Horse Pike between Galloway and Hamilton on one of those dates. It was a total of one six
dates um where there were multiple officers from multiple jurisdictions. They did a total of 660 car stops throughout the county on those six occasions. So, you know, during I believe there were four hour spins, they would do 100 car stops uh during that
time period. So, um there were a total of 529 citations issued I believe. Um it's very small in Kansas, but so um we are going to be continuing that throughout the next year. Um, we've also started to
discuss in our chief meetings the potential of doing something similar um with grant funding from the the highway traffic safety association for microobility issues. We've discussed that before with ebikes, with scooters,
that kind of thing. Um, however, each of our troops municipalities, it's a different beast for, you know, the microobility issues in Brigantine are different than they are here. So, um, but we're looking to do something like that. We will be continuing on with the CARES initiative to address, um, traffic
safety for, uh, motorists as well. Next year, um, we have slated another six, uh, designated time periods. Um, you will see enhanced traffic enforcement over the next holiday uh, over the next few uh, weeks. During the holidays, we have officers who may be out um, doing
driveover vehicle motor details. Uh so you know we are working towards trying to keep uh our crashes down to a minimum. Um some stats for the year. Last year was a really really bad year
uh for crashes. Um there were a total of 637 fatalities through motor vehicle crashes in New Jersey last year. this year and this was only up to December 2nd we are at 528
so it's lower um still not low enough but that's what we're looking at so we have seen an increase in meaningful traffic condition to uh decrease the number of fatal crashes fortunately Atlanta County was number
were they number one either number one or two last year um which was horrible Um and this year we have managed to decrease that number um thanks to in part our initiative as a as a chief system of patient who knew this care
thing and to attack it uh as a multi-jurisdictional issue. So um that's pretty much all I have uh for you. I know it's been a long meeting. I would like to say please don't drink and drive. Everybody be safe during the
holiday season. Um Uber is a wonderful wonderful thing. wonderful. Um, >> and a lot cheaper. >> What's that? >> And a lot cheaper. >> Why? Um, but uh, but yeah, so we do have our Christmas parade coming up. I know BTC
works very hard on doing that. It's going to be a great time. Hopefully the weather will out. We won't get rain, which is going to be pipational this year. Um, but uh, >> you know, >> sorry. >> All right. >> Flirties.
That's good. >> Chief, I have a quick question. Were you able to find out state police still does backpack? >> Um, I have not found out and they still do attacks. That is something that I will
be researching in the new year to see whether or not they will come out and and do that. Uh unfortunately um they too are seeing well I mean we're pretty good right now in terms of staff but the rest of the policing world uh different
story the applications are not as high as they used to be and so um but yeah so I think some of their specialized units are less >> but we will absolutely talk to them and see whether we can get some more out here. >> Thank you. Appreciate it.
Thank you, Chief. >> Uh, CFO, >> city clerk, >> city administrator. >> Thank you. So, I'm sorry I was late. Um, the uh today was my final day in
Hamilton working there. Um, I am happy to report that they did send Jody a check for $20,000 for my services this year. Um, we are currently juggling $27.5 million in grants and I will not
be returning next year, which is good for me. Um, I do want to um also thank Jody and Council Person Galloway. We did get a tree grant amendment of up to $25,000 a year for my work and my
responsibilities um on the uh on the tree grants because it does take some time out of out of my uh out of my week. It takes time out of every week. And so uh we did um apply for and get um some reimbursement out of
that grant. So that's very encouraging and appreciate the Hispanic Access who's helping us manage that grant. Uh we did complete the clamshell application at the uh Archway Green today. Um we are
doing upgrades at the D's request at the at at the at our DPW facility. Um and we had a great one thing uh Joe for finance redevelopment. We had a great brownfield meetings um where we were able to really show them that uh we're moving forward
and that we're very active in trying to get some of these brownfields taken care of. Um I think they've given us probably or approved probably close to three and a half $4 million already. So for the uh for the um um dump site over
in the industrial park and that's it. Sorry I'm a little unprepared. I had a busy day. >> Okay. Uh just to add to that, we had a a little war on the main street today uh to meet with the ACA and some people from the state to talk about what's next
after the MPP goes away. And um so it was a good conversation. There's a lot of options out there, a lot of a lot of different things that that we would have to do. And Triad was there too. So we can we can work through Triad to find uh
something to support that. >> So we'll we'll keep everybody informed of that. >> Uh number 13 is >> I got a question if you don't mind. >> Spring is coming up. Um I don't know. >> It's not even winter yet.
>> I know. But I got to think about spring because >> Okay. Think about spring. >> The football field. >> The football key right. All right. That football field has not been seated in probably eight, nine plus years. There's holes throughout that field. There's
>> practice function. >> No, the main game field. >> Um, is there a way or some company that you might know that can give us a price that we can get it done. Um, it's way overdue. Um, I'm just afraid somebody's going to get hurt.
>> Sure. Gary does it every year. >> They haven't done it in over eight years. There there is a company that does sports fields in Hamilton. Um and I could get a quote present it to mayor and wreck and see see what there is. >> All right. Yeah. Because the problem has
been been seen and you know I've talked to >> one of the key wreck members back and forth but they keep allowing a flag football program to play on there from March till July. So, so if it hasn't been done um in a few years, it would probably require some some core
erration, right? Some top some top dressing and then seating on top. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Shouldn't that be done now though? >> That's why I'm bringing it up. No, it's like February, March. >> Yeah, >> this season their season is in the fall any worried about season. us.
>> So, I mean, maybe I could touch base with them and maybe get the flag football to move over to the Chicago field, which is our practice field, and to stay off the field, >> right? Same. >> Yeah. And then, you know, that way by
September, you know, it'll be up and ready to go. >> It would probably three week prohibition of playing. Yeah. Then it would kind of cover. >> Well, if we got it done, I wouldn't have the kids on it until >> till at least that's the end of August. Okay. September. >> Yeah. Just to let it
>> I I certainly know people I've reconditioned fields in the past. >> Okay. But that's something you can keep in mind. I mean, it's been, like I said, it's been overdue and uh >> I'll get a price. >> We've been stealing dirt from here and going around with a tamper and trying to fill holes and tamper and then then you
go to line the field on Friday night and the sprayer tips over because you hit a freaking pothole. So, >> yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, J. Uh number 13, city attorney. Nothing to report on. Uh and number 14
engineer. >> Sure. Just the active stuff. Um the lake and campground improvements. We still have not heard finance commission in early October. >> Um we are we have the restroom portion of the design has been done
>> for a bit and there's no end in sight here. We split that off. We gave that to Triad and DCA to get their approval to bid just that portion of the work. That portion of the work just for a fire permit. So as soon as we have DCA sign off, we're just going to fid the bathroom upgrades that we
>> think that's going to be done by the season. >> Yeah. I mean it's only a 30 to 45 day construction contract. So we get approval bid January in February March. Existing structure, right? >> Yeah. It's it's the existing backup just just interior improvements. um moving
some fixtures may maybe right now there's two toilets but they're practically touching each other. Um so that's the the campground city hall idea improvements. Uh number 26 in the agenda tonight is to recommend award to Maxwell Construction. They're actually the ones who did the Archway Green project.
>> Um so we're certainly comfortable working with them. Um land pest improvements we have an extension on tonight's agenda. Um, again, still trying to work with finance, trying to figure out how to get through their nitrogen uh water management rule. Um, New Orleans Avenue subdivision, we're
still working to try to get that filed. Um, so you guys can get that advertised and get them sold. >> Is it at the county now? >> Uh, I believe so. Yes. Just had to get it resigned. We need to make some amendments based on the the county planning board requirements. Uh, we anticipated going original. So, we had
update our plan. So, but that is now completed. Um for the IA project, we are still awaiting direction from DP. We enlisted some help from some other people up there uh to try to get things moving since we've been installed since since past March. Um and they've done everything but guarantee that they will
make sure that we're where we need to be to qualify for since which would mean that we been awarded before June 30th. So make sure we stay on track for that. Dum Street, we're still waiting to hear
back from DOT. the primary reviewer was on vacation for like a month to India. Um, so the guy that was in his place gave us the same question that we had already asked before he left, even though we answered it. Um, so I I just reached back out to him again the other
day, but he just got back and was trying to get through a little thing. So, um, I expect that we'll have approval bid that be able to leave that out till January. We're not going to start construction till March anyway. So, not a huge loss, but um we do need to make sure to get that in place over, you know,
um on the back side, the K improvements. Um just trying to get some things in for that. The brownfield redevelopment area, uh as uh Jerry mentioned, we did meeting with them the other day. Just a lot of funding committed. Uh we're working with Jeff on, uh getting a survey and
wetlandation proposal together for him. Um and then separately work on the HSR applications for the gateway site. We sort of talked about um potentially removing some sites depending on, you know, what the city's goals are going forward. So I'll have to sort of circle back and figure that out. Other than
that, that's all I really have. Appreciate it. Sure. Any questions for >> the um the T-Rex field? >> Yes. um any like timelines, anything like because I got to get this stand going and I can't. It's like this is the time
to do it. >> It's not like they can pass it in April and I can say, "Oh yeah, go ahead. Do the stand now. It's football season now. We're a whole another year." >> Yeah, you're going to need time. So I I'll reach out to the commission and try to see what we get on that portion because it by itself it's probably small enough that you could do it without have
trigger departments. So, I'll talk to them about whether we split that off or whether they just allow us to proceed without understanding the roofing of the application. >> Okay. >> But I'll I'll reach out to them. >> All right. Thank you, Ryan. I appreciate it. >> Sure. >> I have a question. Yeah. Uh did you find anything out about the uh crosswalks and
uh what the resident here came and asked about to go across the White Horse Pike, the crosswalk that that you push the button and it lights stop. >> Yeah. So the the push buttons you have to make a request into dot for them. They have like a whole criteria that
they go through. >> I mean I think we had some of that discussion when they came through and ultimately we landed on new crosswalks but not push buttons right >> but um yeah I mean I I don't know that it meet the criteria but the only way to find out will be to submit a formal request for them. So like we move
forward with that. >> I mean I I feel it's a good thing. Um, I'd like to bringing up bring it up to the rest of the council and see um how does it work? >> I don't I don't even know if those things work. How many times you stand there?
>> They to be honest with you, Northfield has one and there's ones in Summers Point and stuff because of the huge bike path that goes from Northfield all the way down to the end of Summers Point. >> Um, they do work. Basically, they push the button the lights always blinking yellow. Then when the bikes come close,
it'll automatic. You don't even have to push a button. It's >> Yeah, smart ones now that you don't even push a button. They just sensor how many feet away from the street they are and then all of a sudden it goes red and then you got to stop. So >> we have smart lights on the pike. >> So they upgraded lighting as part of the
project. I don't believe that there is any smart features just photo cells. Um my guess is that that for the if if we asked for cork installations they would probably do like a flashing yellows. I think they would add Phil stop control. >> Right. I got you. >> In between Philadelphia.
>> I got you. >> Yeah, but the >> Yeah, I don't think so. >> Right. Yeah, I think that'd be very the flashing yellows. There's there's a few inp they're certainly out there. I just don't I don't know whether they'd be open to I mean, it's possible they do
like one in the middle, but again, we >> right. It wouldn't be across the whole area over lingos and and that wherever the you know, people Right. Based on the chief's report, it might not be a bad idea to ask. >> But are you talking about
confusing to cross Route 30 um in between St. Louis and Philadelphia where there's not stop patrol because there's lights at those two intersections, right? In between there's three blocks where there's nothing. The chief mentioned at one point in time
that you can't have lights on there, right? On the >> they'd be too close, but the flash we can't install. >> We can request the state whether they would be appropriate to install. >> So, yeah, we can make the request and they'll start that process. We can
always say no later. >> Right. Right. >> But then we just got to get the people to actually use the crosswalks because out of everybody that lives here, you might one out of every hundred actually use cross at the corners. do it. But >> that's what I'm saying. Something not many. I mean, there's been times they
just jaywalk right across the streets. They don't use the crosswalks. >> I figure if it's in a in a place where most people to go to inflos, you know, I thought that might might >> it's good to have at least as an option. But I mean, like I said, Jerry, we can reach out and make the request. >> Um, you know, the worst case.
>> Yeah, exactly. The worst case scenario is they'll come and study it and say yes or no. And at that point, we could say we change our minds or yeah, please. while you're talking to him asking about the tips and I'm sure >> I did have one other question. I don't know if Ryan it will be for you. It will
be for Jerry but the lights at the smoke shop again. I know Jerry, you ended up getting the meter. >> Sorry. Yeah. >> Oh, great. >> After the meeting. >> Terrific. Okay. Great. >> I'll let you know tomorrow. >> Thank you. >> You need You really need a meter for that? >> You totally see that? Yeah. We don't
really >> Mason. have to stand on the sidewalk and then face the meter >> to see what the light is reflecting at the sidewalk. That's how the code reads. >> You can see that thing from Mars. >> Yeah, you know what it is. She hasn't had any army since
>> I'm sure not be blind by the time they even get there. >> That's probably a pretty good that was the reason that they did that because that was we had quite a few
robberies prior to that. So >> to move them completely down. I mean there >> I have a number 14A Jerry um resolution regarding the a city beach 19 camera
>> I don't have it in front >> I don't have a 148 >> is that something we wanted to bring up tonight or not >> okay >> so you're reading this into the record >> did everybody get a copy of this
>> I don't have a copy I guess something I don't know what happened. >> There's no more. >> So this is resolution regarding city beach and camp. Whereas the current operator of the egg harbor city campground has expressed a desire to
discontinue the current agreement in place with the city of Egg Harbor. And whereas the city of Ec Harbor finance and redevelopment committee requests the city attorney to prepare a management agreement with Renault Winery FBS LLC
for the calendar year 2026 with multi-year options. And whereas the city of a harbor agrees to authorize the finance and redevelopment committee, city administrator, chief financial officer, and appropriate staff to discuss the management and operation
details with Renault Winery Fes LLC. Now therefore be it resolved that the city of El Harbor maintaining ownership of the Egg Harbor City Lake and Campground provide the best experience for residents of Egg Harbor
City and surrounding patrons. Continue to improve and support a valuable Egg Harbor City. >> Dary could you read the names of the people that are supposed to be involved? I know I read it but I I wasn't the >> the the finance and redevelopment
committee that that that part >> and go ahead >> finance and redevelopment committee city administrator chief financial officer and appropriate staff. >> Okay appropriate staff >> anyone else think since I pretty much ran the whole thing I my name should
have been mentioned. Oh, so and mayor and the mayor of impart city >> and also the lake committee because we do have a lake committee too. >> I didn't know that. >> That's my fault because I >> I'll do that. >> Can we get emailed a copy of that so we can read it also?
>> Mayor, if it's just called the egg barber city lake committee. >> It's the it's on the committee sheets like you want to read the names, Joe? Who's on in front of you? >> I give him >> you the committee. >> Oh, on the lake committee. Uh, Mrs.
Hessie, Karen Luca, Laura Shaw, Jody Khan, Jackie Young, and Meg Steve. >> Okay. All staff members. >> So, that would that would just not it would probably be worthwhile just mentioning the late committee. >> Okay. So this third whereas is the city
of Egg Harbor agrees to authorize the finance and redevelopment committee, the mayor of Egg Harbor City, city administrator, chief financial officer, Egg Harbor City late committee and appropriate staff to discuss the management and operation
details with Renault Winery FBS LLC. >> And just to simplify this, this is not an agreement with Renault at this point. No, this is just to authorize those people
>> to negotiate a potential contract that would have to be brought back here to the city council. And >> so, what are you trying to >> This is the result of an RFA that was sent out to a numerous potential >> six >> six different uh businesses and it was
advertised appropriately. >> It was authorized by council >> actually. Um, so we're going through those RFPs that came back and we met with uh Renault uh and u we think they're the best.
>> Did you get any other back besides Renault? >> Uh, no. >> No, just Renault. >> Can we get um emailed a copy of that um so we can also >> we will make sure this is not agreeing to anything other than being able to
negotiate with them a potential contract. Is there is there a reason why this wasn't on the agenda ahead of time? >> Yeah, because we met with them this week in the agenda. So, >> okay, I'll rephrase that. Is there a reason why we weren't given a copy of this >> prior to this meeting? It's it's 8:30.
I'm just reading about it. >> That's I don't know the answer to that other than >> Does anyone know the >> It was last. >> Was it on the stuff you send out, Mike? No, it was an add-on. >> Okay.
>> It was done after >> What's that? >> I said it was done after the agenda. A lot of times we have fun. >> But the basic I think I don't want to, you know, keep this meeting going too much longer because I'm hungry too. But
you know the this isn't anything being done un sneaky or anything. I'm not accusing anybody saying that. But I've been doing this lake for free for 18 17 or 18 years. I've been running it um before the other parks committee got
involved with the campground. I was handling that with the ma whoever the manager was. This is just a management contract to see what we can get a manager like we did with the campground which now he doesn't want want it anymore. So we need
someone to manage this place for us. You know we've come a long way. The lake looks beautiful and but we have a long way to go. >> And just to add and maybe this will answer part of your question and just we're in a time where it's December
18th. >> Yeah, it's got to get done >> to get something going. We have to have some kind of agreement with them where we're going to have to pick up the ball like we have been doing. >> I'm not saying I'm against it. >> I I'm not saying that either. I'm saying I'm trying to answer your question.
I think it was it was put together quickly so that we could get it on this meeting to where we authorized the committee and the people that were mentioned to be able to negotiate a contract the potential contract that would come up before council and and be
uh presented at that level >> because we usually start in February. >> It's a timing. It's a timing thing for getting the lake up and running because there's so much that has to be done up like at the end of summer. They're not going to do it. If they're not going to be our parlor in this, we're going to
have to go back later. I understand what you're saying. So that's that's that's >> my only question is why why weren't we all notified? That's all that was my only question >> about the resolution. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> We were just going to bring it up under the administrator's committee report.
However, uh we said, well, let's put something in writing and it probably just got to be too late to get it out. So, um that's what happened. But it's it's real exciting. They have I don't know if you've been out to Renault lately, but their whole theme is like nature and
>> wellness >> wellness and they want to incorporate that area into their what they want to do. So because we have a good history with you know with that with the tan tanic the water the tannis in the water
is supposed to be blah blah blah. So, um, that's it's going to be good. If it's, you know, if it can work, it's going to be good. >> Okay. So, that, um, there's a resolution. Is there a motion? >> Motion.
>> Motion made and seconded. I'm going to take a vote. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Dash, >> do >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. Heist. >> Yes. >> Pass. >> Yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Timbers,
>> yes. >> Right. >> Okay. Motion passes. Uh, number 15, a resolution for budget transfers. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Questions on
the motion? >> Roll call. >> Clark, yes. Dash, >> yes. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. Pessie, >> yes. >> Kener, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Yes.
>> Resolution passes. Number 16, hire full-time laborer, Department of Public Works. Is there a motion? >> Second. >> Motion made in second. Questions on the motion. >> Are we going to have a meeting or are
you just going to handle that, J? >> Both work. We really haven't had any meetings all year. >> That's what I'm getting at. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, we um we we had several meetings of public works. >> When was the last meeting? >> The last meeting was when we did the
hiring for the public works. >> Yeah, I as I pointed out earlier, we did not have a meeting on this. with we had a recommendation from uh the administrator
in early November to move forward with this person going from full-time from parttime to full-time >> because of somebody else being out but not likely to be uh coming back who was
full-time and that there was a staffing issue and the recommendation was to move forward establishers by email. >> Yeah. Yeah, I understand all that. Yeah. But my question is >> and I I >> the way I'm reading this is is hire a
full-time labor. It's not saying pro promote a part-time job. >> You can't do that after >> we're hiring a temporary. >> So then we got to hire once they go up to or whatever moves up to full-time. We're going to hire a part-time. >> No. We had to change his status to
temporary seasonal because he's working 5 days a week cuz we were short. Two people got that. >> So So you can't promote a seasonal to full-time promote. So I had to change his status. >> In order for him to work 5 days a week, I had to change his status to seasonal. Very seasonal.
>> Okay. >> Okay. See no other questions. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Dash, >> yes. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, yes. SC, >> yes. >> Hessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Right. >> Yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 17, I would
ask um this particular resolution to be tabled um for the reason that I met with the chief last night and he would like to take this before the the default and talk about it at a meeting that's coming
up next week. >> I'll make a motion we table. >> I'll second it. >> Okay. Motion made and second. Roll call, please. Oh, no. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> opposed. Resolution passes to two.
>> Okay. Number 18 is authorize RFPs for engineer services for 2025 ADA improvements to the scene. >> I make a motion. >> Second. >> Motion made second. Is there questions on a motion? Ryan, just want to give a
quick reason why we're doing this. >> Sure. um you're funding a portion of the engineering from the grant. So, uh when you do that, DCA requires you, the federal government requires you to uh put out an RFP explicitly for those services for that project. So, you have
to advertise for it. Obviously, we'll respond to it. You make other responses. You'll select who you qualified. It's not a price fee necessary. >> Okay. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, yes. >> Dash, yes. >> Doy, yes. >> Galloway, yes. >> Heist, yes. Yes. Pessie, >> yes. >> Kener,
>> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. Right. >> Yes. >> Okay. Resolution passes. Number 19, renew property lease between the city of a Carver and Kre Incorporated. >> So move. >> Second. >> Motion made second. Questions? Roll
call, please. >> Clark, yes. Dash, >> yes. >> Dovy, yes. >> Galloway, yes. >> Heer, yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. Right. >> Resolution passes. >> Yes. Yes,
>> I didn't think about it. Go ahead and say >> by resolution accepting the terms of contract entered into by the South Jersey Power Cooperative for Natural Gas. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made and second. Is there
questions? Roll call, please. >> Clark, yes. >> Sash, yes. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, yes. Heist, >> yes. >> Hess, yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. Right. >> Yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 21. Resolution
adopting filmmakers code of professional responsibility. Is there a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> There's a motion seconded. Uh Jerry, could you just uh explain this a little bit? >> Sure. Um, Bay Harbor City is trying to
become a film ready community, which would um allow the New Jersey EGA and film ready group in that in the EDA to promote us as a film ready community be
able to uh basically welcome people to the community. There's five distinct steps. One of them is training which has been completed. The second is that the mayor has to appoint a liaison or someone who becomes a film ready liaison. Then there's the formal process
which this is the formal process. It's a code of conduct. It could also be an ordinance. Um at some point uh there may be an ordinance replacing the code of conduct but right now the code of conduct is before the council. Then we have to upload at least eight locations
to their um free web-based um marketing tools and uh have five businesses uh basically commit to um being able to serve those individuals who come and do film here in the
community. So, and I thought it was a great idea for us to become film ready now since we have a film studio coming online at some point and so um it's a great it's a great opportunity for us >> and you attended you attended
>> it only took five hours of my life and >> is it a stipen position for the liaison? >> No. >> How how do you do that then? Like say it should it should be someone at city hall. It should be someone at city hall. It should be I should be citing it. It
should be probably someone who you appoint annually, right? So it might be something where if we look at uh powers of the mayor, maybe just brand new like it's a brand new thing. We've never had a film liaison before. So we got to figure that out.
>> It probably should be someone at city hall and that would require >> maybe and maybe to put it into the ordinance when we have an ordinance. Right now we don't have a fee schedule. We should create a fee schedule. There's a recommendated There's a recommend recommended fee schedule. Maybe put the
appointment annual appointment mayor and the stipen in the ordinance. This way it's codified. And I did have a number. >> Um I had suggested earlier today that um we have an add an item 16, but maybe it
could go into the ordinance that um that their plans for safety in the area where they're filming should run through the police chief or he should, you know, sign off on it. I've been on film sets and
>> you cannot get near those actors and they have to keep people away if people want to see them. So it does create a lot of activity on like if it was done on the avenue. So I think the police would be >> they bring a lot and they would equipment. I think they bring a lot of equipment as well.
>> They basically shut down the sidewalks and most of them have their own lane of traffic or something. Not a lane of traffic but where the parking places are if they're going to do something like that. But and and there they should be willing to pay the duty rate for the police,
>> right? So the off duty rate is already qualified, right? That's already set from that. But there should be an application fee. There should be a stipen for a film. >> They pay mutual money something. >> So that should go in the ordinance. >> Yeah, it probably should go. >> And I would also put in there because
sometimes the Cedar Creek kids, their clubs go out and do movies. There's one group that is going to make another one soon. Um that I think that if there's any fee that should really be you know there really shouldn't be a fee for Cedar Creek. >> Yeah. It shouldn't be for those kids 18
and basically fil recommended fee schedule has that provision in there. It has that provision. >> Student 18 or younger type of thing has that. >> Okay. >> So I'll show you that when we get ready. Obviously we can't introduce an ordinance.
>> Okay. Motion made and seconded. Roll call please. >> Clark. Yes. Sash. Yes. >> Doby. >> Yes. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist. >> Yes. >> Pessie. >> Yes. >> Kener. >> Yes. >> Timbers. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Resolution. >> Number 22. Refund street opening bond.
>> I make a motion. >> Second. >> Motion made and second. Any questions? >> Roll call, please. >> Clark. Yes. Stash. Yes. >> Joby. Yes. Galloway. Yes. Heist. >> Yes. Pessie. Yes. Kener. >> Yes. >> Timbers. Yes. Right.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Number 23, approval to submit NJD opening time extension for the award of the LA-2023
SST Take Harbor City Transit app extension phase 3 extension to February 15, 2026. >> So moved. Second. >> Motion made in second. Questions? We shoot are we shooting for 10 here?
>> My brother, >> I I do have one question. Where now? Where is uh this phase going to? >> This is the extension of the path along Atlantic Avenue. That >> where is it going? >> Veterans path going down to Raymond and then up Raymond to bus stop and then at the other end um down Atlantic to New
York Avenue and then up >> formerly New York Avenue to the bus stop there. So you have a full loop from the bus stop all the way at New York and Route 30 up to Atlantic all the way down to Braymond then up to the bus stop there. So you have a nice circulation
>> road. Thank you. >> Clark, yes. >> Dash, yes. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> He kener, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. Okay. Number 24 is the one pertaining to towing which we haven't
talked to people here about. Is there a motion? >> Motion to table. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. All in favor? >> Post. Okay. Resolution has been tabled.
Okay. Number 25. We already approved. We say two. And number 26, resolution to award a contract a Carver City Municipal Building, ADA
Improvements, RX Laurwell Construction Company toward second. >> Motion remain second. Is there questions? >> Have comment. I saw all the bids
tabulation shows that the two bids were very close. >> So that good engineer usually. >> Okay. >> Bark. >> Yes. >> Dash. >> Yes. >> Die. >> Yes. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> Heist. >> Yes. >> Pessie. >> Yes.
>> Kenir. >> Yes. >> Timbers. >> Yes. Ray. >> Yes. >> The resolution passes. Number 27 is LEAP implementation grant thermoplastic traffic line striping hand
cart and thermoplastic traffic line striping >> motion second. >> Motion made and second is questions. >> Is this for public works? >> It's for the county. It's like a co sign
on with the county to do it. >> Okay. You know what we did with Atlantic City when we we were going to use their >> hole machine, >> right? Let's just make sure nobody within the generation is drawing our lines. That's all. >> Fair quite a few with them. Yeah.
>> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Dash, yes. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. He >> Kener, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Great. >> Yes. >> Resolution passes. Nomber 28th, a
resolution supporting an amendment to the Atlantic County Solid Waste Management Plan endorsing the expansion of the ACUA landfill at the Howard Fritz Fritz Ottoman Environment. >> Motion
second. >> Motion made in second. Questions? >> Is this where it is now? Yeah, it'll extend the life of the uh plan for 11 years. They'll be adding more to it. >> I don't know if it's going to get wider. >> It's going to get higher.
>> I don't think it can go higher. >> Have they at his max? >> I know there was a lot of complaints about the odor in the area. Has that been addressed and taken care of? I understand that. >> Not going down the Parkway. >> That's what I tell you that. >> Yeah, the odor still,
>> Mr. Dodie. >> Well, odors are addressed. Odors never go away. landfill smell, single plant smell, >> right? >> They're they've been addressed and that that's part of
that it can be done. >> Hey, thank you. >> Let me just add the option is not extending it and then trash will be shipped to Pennsylvania to Atlanta much more expensive. So for the
taxpayers of Atlantic County, rateayers in Atlantic County, this will provide savings going forward. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All in favor of the resolution? >> I opposed. >> Resolution passes.
Okay. Number 29 is a public hearing on ordinance number 20 of 2025 amending the code of the city of a far chapter 235 streets and sidewalks and adding article 7 titled tree removal and replacement.
Is there a motion to hold a public hearing? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> opposed. Okay. The public hearing is open. Is there anyone that wish to be heard on this particular ordinance?
First call. Second call. Is there a motion to close public hearing? >> I'll make the motion. >> Second. >> Motion made in second. All in favor? >> I opposed. The public hearing has been closed. Is there a motion to adopt? >> Make the motion. Second.
>> Motion has been made to adopt. Roll call. >> Clark. >> Yes. >> Dash. >> Yes. Joby, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> He sir, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Ordinance passes.
Number 30, public hearing on ordinance 21-2025 amending the code of ACRP city chapter 235 pertaining to article one snow and ice removal. Is there a motion to pull the public? >> I'll make the motion. >> Second.
>> Motion made and second. All in favor? I >> opposed. A public hearing open ordinance number 21. Anyone wish to be heard? Seeing none, is there a motion to close? >> Make the motion. >> Second. >> Motion made second to close. All in
favor? >> Opposed? Public hearing closed. Is there a motion to adopt? >> The motion. >> Second. >> A motion made and seconded to adopt. >> Clark. Yes. >> Dash. >> Yes. Doby, >> yes. >> Galloway,
>> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Hessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Chambers, >> yes. Right, >> yes. >> Okay. Ordinance 21 has been >> number 31, pay the bills. >> I I just have a a statement. The uh one
of the items in the bill list is um a academy animal control. >> I think we should hold off paying them because they're not fulfilling their their uh contract. >> I agree. I definitely agree with you on that one. >> Matter of fact, 40
>> 402 on the White Horse Pike has an awful cat problem and I called it in before. That whole street, what is it? Is it Did we say it was London? >> London. That whole street is loaded with cats. Loaded. >> I I called them last month and told them
about skunk issues in night terrace under the city jail. Um, and also some cats and I was told that they do not trap wildlife, nuisance wildlife. >> We're working on the wildlife issue by next year. I mean, I don't know how much we can really do with the current contract, but
>> yeah, but but the current the current contract does state that they will trap nuisance wildlife and and skunks in people's garages in their backyard smelling up the yards is definitely a nuisance. Um, I spoke to them about a month and a little over a month ago. I notified Jerry and and the mayor about
it. Um al and I also called them again today or yesterday I called them again about um some cat issues and I was told they don't trap cats in the winter which is what they were saying last year that also violates their their contract. So uh I don't feel comfortable voting to
pay them if they're not doing the work and both times when I called I was told that Chris was on vacation um so nothing would happen until after January. >> The reason the reason we got them because they were so cheap. We were paying what at one time what $900 a
month and I think theirs is now seven something that >> so it's quite pricey but you know >> we can turn this over to a committee >> to to discuss and meet with them and have some kind of resolution to it. Uh
so the question is for the bill is are we going to pay that bill or not? So, what's what's uh So, when you do the we're going to do roll call. Say yes or no to the paying the bills and yes or no to pay.
>> I don't know. Can you not pay do that? >> That's what I was going to say. You put Jod in a kind of bad spot not >> Well, we're asked to. We're >> I know what you're saying. I understand completely where you're talking. I don't >> know. So, I understand completely where you're going. >> I'm not saying don't pay them at all, but I think there should be a
conversation before we pay them. Well, she doesn't say anything. That's not a good thing. >> Yeah. >> Issues with them. We just told them that we were renewing the contract for next year. So, >> well, maybe maybe we should take a vote
in no confidence and then not renew the contract. >> We can handle that separate. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, roll call on bills, >> which will include that, but we can talk about that. >> I'm I'm okay with that. >> Okay. Good. Clark, >> yes. Dash,
>> yes. >> Doby, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. Ice, >> yes. >> Hessie, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Bills are paid. Uh, number >> We're going to have to
check with the postit saying see me in the office. We'll >> take it on on the uh finance committee and we'll meet with them. We'll have a >> heart to heart. >> Okay. Mayor comments. >> I think I said everything but um just if
you do have a wild animal problem, I think we have a jimped wild animal service. Just a joke. We had giant swans at the lake one time and it turned out well. >> Mike, you got a joke. You also had a skunk in your pullover. >> We did. And he lost he lost the battle
with the swan. >> Funny story. >> Yeah, you heard the story, right? >> Mr. Right. >> Nothing. >> Miss Galloway. >> Yeah. My dog was stunk twice in the last month. So, there's skunks in my
neighborhood. I think they're under my neighbors. So, they're everywhere. Oh, yeah. Um, I just wanted to um say thank you to Ingred and Steve for their time on the board and welcome our new guys who are coming in in January and ask everyone to
send me stuff for the newsletter for January. And just I don't know if everybody here realizes the ordinance that we just passed will relieve homeowners of the responsibility of taking care of their street trees. It's
now the responsibility of the city to take care of street trees, which means that the people in this town do not have to spend thousands of dollars to remove a street tree. If they do remove a street tree, they will be fined because they're
not their trees. They're now the city's trees. And uh these grants that we got are addressing 30 years of neglect because the last 30 years in 1995 the city
abolished its shade tree committee and put the onus all in the residents and the residents did not take care of those trees which is why they are in sat shape right now. So, since we um got those
grants, we have expended already $427,000 to remove more than 167 street trees. And we expended $51,000 from state grant for
uh the inventory and things like that, prep work to to for our uh future next at least the next three years. So for the next three years, the city will take care of the trees. Residents don't have
to do anything. What we will do is after the first of the year, um we will have information on our city website or on a separate website. We we're going to discuss that on how to request service for a tree, how to request you would
like that tree to come down, how to request planting a tree outside a house. all that stuff will be put on a website so that it's interactive with the public and we could have uh you know a better relationship regarding the street trees.
So um other than that I just wanted to say happy holidays, happy new year and I'll see you January 5th. Please don't plant one one better. You got the list. Tell us. >> I'll cut it down. Find me.
>> I'll pay it. I'll pay it right now. I I just had a a question actually for and I wanted to know as far as if I see any dogs running loose in town, is there a certain number that I should call or
where should I, you know, what should I do if I see a dog just running loose in town? 6095 emergency police line if they just roaming around. >> Yes. Not actively attacking anyone, >> right?
>> Okay. Just call that. >> And um the only other thing I want to say is everybody have a great holiday and a really happy new year. Thank you, Mr. Timbers. So, Ingred,
Ingred, you were always great, man. If I if I needed some help, I would call you up. If I needed to vent, I can call you up. And I appreciate that. Um, >> discussions on the difference between May and Sha. >> Oh, yeah.
>> Dash. Dash, you're a person of integrity. You're a person. And I know there's someone I know I can always count on. If there's something I have, you know, my my my dog, if I say my dog and why do we >> coughing up,
>> I call you and you always got an answer. So I for that want to say thank you. >> And um and what you did for me, I know you did for everyone >> and that should always be recognized. And uh
happy holidays. Um happy Hanukkah, Quanza, Christmas. I don't want to leave anybody out. If I did, I I apologize. Um uh this has been a a great day for for some people. Some some people today,
they may not feel, you know, they may not feel feel the best. Uh but um today and the rest of the month, holidays, it's a time for uh families uh coming together.
Um it's time for us uh spreading our our own wings and and arms wide for our neighbors. Uh, you know, I'm always going to remember that that that movie Groundhog Hall Day when after he had done it so many times, he finally got
through it by helping everyone in that, you know, he's doing >> he was getting every, you know, a guy had a flat tire, he would help a guy needed to eat, you know. So, this time of year, I hope we all have that mindset to help as many people as we can. Happy holidays.
>> Amen. We Mr. Dvy, I would like to thank Ingred and and Steve for their service to the city. I've learned in the last year, so we're more difficult than it may appear.
Others, nice working with both of you. Wish you good luck. Hope we can continue to interact and work for the betterment of Hangar City going forward. And uh wish you the best. >> Thank you. And uh happy holidays to
everyone. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. >> Thank you. I'll go to you, Mrs. Heist. Um let Steve. >> I just want to acknowledge Councilman Dash and Councilwoman NeAs Clark on their years of service to our city and
thank them for their dedication, fairness, and unwavering commitment to our residents, whether they were two-legged residents or four-legged residents. Mhm. >> Um, I will miss you up here, but know that the friendships we have formed through our endeavors will forever be there. Happy Hanukkah and merry
Christmas and happy new year to ever. >> Thank you. >> Sorry. >> Um, where do I start? Um, I'm not going to cry this year. Uh, so first of all, uh, congratulations to Cedar Creek football.
um on uh securing the group three state title at Metife Stadium. That was a wonderful exciting game. >> Um >> and not to cut you off, I don't care what that paper says, that's their fourth. >> That's their fourth. >> They just didn't call state titles. We got Rob. >> Yep.
>> Um great job to Coach Melody, uh the rest of the coaching staff, the players, my son. Um the booster club, the families. Uh this year's motto was uh leave no doubt. and I I will definitely say that they left no doubt um as to
their program and what they could achieve. Um it was a great time to be a pirate for the this entire season. Um Crusaders wise uh we are holding a fundraiser uh with part with a
partnership with the Philadelphia 76ers. Uh the game is going to be March 19th where the 76ers will face the Portland Trailbl Blazers. Uh tickets are $40 with a portion of the ticket sale going back to the Crusaders. Uh more information will be on our Facebook page. Um and how
to purchase those tickets. And finally, uh thank you to the citizens of Harper City for allowing me to serve you for these past years as the first Latina um to hold this position. It has been an honor to serve with past and present
council um as well as the mayor. um is definitely a learning experience and uh something that will be going into my memoir um coming soon. Uh >> uh happy holidays. I will see you soon
and cheers to everyone. >> Mr. I I'll I'll keep it brief since sometimes I go on and on. So, so this is my last night sitting up here on the council. I'm sure some people uh will be sad about that and I'm sure quite a few people will be happy
about that, especially my wife. Um, I'd like to thank everyone that's helped me along the way. Uh, council Councilman Dovy uh made a good point. It it's not an easy position up here. Um, I had two two I served two terms. Uh, I had learned a lot. There was a lot of people to help me on the way. So, I want to
thank them. I met a lot of great friends. there's friends in the audience that that are out there now. Uh I appreciate everyone uh everyone upon council. So, thank you very much for everything. Um and just one quick last thing. Um well, first of all, merry Christmas to everyone and happy fifth
night of Hanukkah and uh happy Quanza, but also um I'm leaving here as council. Um but I'm still my main gig is still animal welfare. Um and if the city has any need of any expertise in that field, feel free to reach out to me. my office,
my cell phone, my emails, however you want to. Thank Thank you very much everyone. >> Thank you. >> I actually save myself for last because uh just to start with you, Steve. Um you know, we didn't really know each other well when I first came up here. We still
don't know each other that well, but I found out that you're, as Carl said, you have integrity. And uh there's things that we disagreed on, >> but we found a way to work it out. >> Absolutely. >> And I appreciate that. >> And the same thing, Anger, I you and I
are very not acquainted that well, but um I enjoyed working with you up here and uh you were I know you have the city at heart and that really matters. So, and I've been in your positions, you
know, I've I've lost my seat up here uh one time as the councilman, and it hurts, you know, because you you put the time and the effort in and it's something that you said, how how could that happen, you know, but you you
served well, you served professionally and we appreciate that. Thank you very much. >> And even though we won't be on council anymore, we'll still be neighbors. >> Absolutely. Y And uh I also want to say uh merry Christmas and happy holidays to everybody.
Um open to the public. Anyone wish to be heard? Any comments? >> I would be super. >> Okay. >> Um my name is Karen Adams. Many of you know me. I am NP coordinator. I live on Boston Avenue. I a whole bunch of other
stuff. Um, I just wanted to say as this is the fifth year of the MPP grant, it is coming to an end. I just wanted to say thank you to council and everyone who has supported me in the last three years. I'm very proud of everything the MPP grant has accomplished. Um, I would love to see it go for more years, but
that's the way of the grants. I really do hope the city gets more grants and keeps on with the improvements that have been happening in town. Thank you all for Thank you. Anyone else wish me? >> Oh, there goes the neighborhood.
Hi, my name is looking forward to a good year. Um, looking forward to as far as being told on those empty lots, cleaning up our city and taking care of those buildings. Happy holidays, guys. And Jerry's doing awesome.
Is it you? >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You too. I love like one of these days I got to get >> anyone else seeing a motion to adjurnn. >> So move
>> second. >> All in favor? Oh yeah personal