to the flag of the United States of America. [Music] 29 today. >> Okay. Number two on our agenda is call this meeting to order. This meeting has been
advertised. Adequate notice of this meeting. The AC Carver City Council meeting was provided through written notice posted on the ACRE city bulletin board, posted on the A Carver City website, and sent to the Hamilton Gazette and the press. It is also being
conducted via Zoom conference call and in person and it's being recorded on the A Carver city website channel 97 and Facebook. Number three is roll call. >> Mayor Japeti not here tonight. Clar
>> here. Dashy >> here. >> Galloway >> here. Feist >> here. >> Pass >> here. here. >> Timbers >> here. >> Wright >> here. Okay. Number four, approve the minutes
of October 16th. Is there a motion? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Motion made second. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Minutes approved. Number five is for public comment or any agenda items.
Anybody wish to be heard on agenda items? Seeing none, we'll close the public comment portion. Uh, mayor is absent tonight and council committee reports. You want to start with parks and playgrounds?
>> They're going to do a presentation. We want to do it last or >> um, you guys are coming up for a presentation. >> Yes. >> So, if you come up one at a time or during this period, you can go speak for five minutes. That would be good.
>> Okay. I did have a PowerPoint here. That's why I asked to get put on the >> agenda. Are you >> so share? It's fine. >> Everybody, my name is Jason Clat. I'm the president of skate nonprofits about
skateboard parks in Atlantic City. Um do this for the youth and for the future. >> Need your address for the rest. >> My address. >> Okay. I live in Margar. >> Um so made a little PowerPoint here to show you some of the accomplishments of
what we've done in the city. Um go to the next slide. We're going to go through this pretty quickly, but basically they do low impact and low cost skate parks. Uh, typically, and I'll email this to all you guys
all kind of wordy, but typically when people think of skate parks, they think of big bird ramps and and big pools. What we build are more like curbs and driveway ramps, things to keep the youth safe and to keep the cost down. This is more about giving the kids somewhere to
go than building a massive million-dollar park. Um, go to the next slide. So, that's our those are some of the obstacles we built in Uptown Atlantic City as well as down Beach Atlantic City. Go to the next slide.
Um, these are some of the designs that we could install here. Um, typically our process, you can go to the next slide, is we will get an agreement uh worked out with the city on where the land is. Then we'll go there essentially film a GoFundMe video with the uh design
included in the video and then at that point we raise the funds relatively quickly. Uh that seems to be kind of the easiest part for us. Um skateboarding provides a lot of uh benefits. I'm not going to read through all of these, but you know, our youth especially is
suffering nowadays from addiction, obese, obesity, um depression, suicide, and these places are stress relievers. Uh it builds confidence and resilience. It's a mood boost for them. It provides mindfulness and focus and community and
a sense of belonging. Uh skateboarding is filled with self-expression and creativity. Uh you can go to the next slide. These are all studies underneath mitu to workout. So it helps fight against a lot of the obesity issues, cardiovascular health, improved flexibility, uh health, healthy
lifestyle habits, injury and awareness and body control, and a lifelong fitness regimen. Um you know, it also has economic benefits. So it attracts visitors. You're going to get people from all over the country that come to
see the skate because skateboarding is a unique sport. Not every park is the same unlike basketball courts, tennis courts, you have uniqueness about them. So we'll get people from Philadelphia, New York, California, etc. coming to visit which will increase your local spending, boost
some property values, uh encourage community events and be a coste effective recreation. This will cost the city no money. Uh we will provide all of the funding for the park. Okay, next slide, please.
Uh skateboarding is now in the Olympics. It's got, you know, global popularity. Has the youth appeal which is one of our most uh least served communities right now. Has cultural influence uh between music, fashion, video games. It's a
major part of youth culture right now. Social media and all that. And it is a growing community and essentially an in-person social network. All right, next slide. And uh you know this is just a couple quotes about skateboarding. The mayor of
Atlantic City said that Uptown State Park was an example of what happens when we invest our neighborhoods, public and private partnerships, make it for a better community. Um you know, we really just want to with the demolishing of the uh local DIY park mag just try to
replace what was there that the community built for, you know, itself. And um it's unfortunately it was taken down, but we totally understand why and just really wanted to make sure that the kids have somewhere to go and the you know adult kids um this is a sport that
sustains people into their 50s and 60s that we have skateboarders now. So it's a lifelong sport and passion and it gives a lot of people a lot of purpose. So just hope that you guys will be open to the idea and maybe be able to find some land where we could do a fundraiser
for you and donate a park. Uh we also have board members like Rohan Marley from the Marley family just joined the board. So he will be using his social network to help us raise all the money and funds needed for this project. >> How do you guys handle like how does your company handle liability issues
when you build a park? >> Yeah. So typically that is handled by the city just like uh you know your baseball fields, your football fields, somebody falling off the curb in front of city hall. It's because we're building things low impact. It's typically escape at your own risk. We
put lots of signage in every single corner of the park so that nobody can walk in and say that they didn't see a sign saying that, you know, this was something that they were going to uh be able to sue or >> typical are typically our football fields, baseball fields, all of those
are designed by engineers and and right designs. You guys just build stuff or the designer and >> Sure. Sure. Yeah. >> Uh we have professional skateboarding uh parks uh excuse me, skateboard park builders that would design it and we their engineers to make sure that
they're safe and sustainable. >> Yeah, we work with the city engineers typically, >> but then after it's built and all of that, there was no liability on how it's built on your end. It's basically city assumes 100% of the liability. >> That's how it's done in AC.
>> Yes, there's an umbrella policy there. I know that uh the parks fall under and it's a state assurance policy and we've had parks there for over nine years now and there's been absolutely no lawsuits. We don't even have ambulances ever happen
to pick anybody up because of the way that we build these park. They are really low impact. So the injury rate is just extremely minimal. >> Have you met the playground? This is why I tried to bring it here in October and then I was asked to bring it
here this month. >> Do you have a recommendation? >> I mean, I'm all for it. I mean, like I said, I mean, the reason I asked for them to come here was basically one, I wanted to get the chief's opinion on everything and then I also wanted to get council's opinion,
>> right? So, so I'd have to have a conversation with our insurance carrier. Make sure that that the liability concern is is for sure. For sure. >> Chief, you
>> Okay, that's fine. >> Uh, Councilman Hy, you have a comment? >> Yes, I do. I just wanted to know who maintains it. the city maintains this or do do you raise funds to maintain it? >> We would help maintain it. Um because it
is a sport filled with such passionate users. Um, we're always keeping track and tabs on on what's going on with the park and it's a a community that is very supportive in making sure what we have is maintain just like the way that these
guys build park uh over there at um you know anytime anything went wrong over there those guys were on it making sure that it's staying safe um because we just want to keep this going you know is an Olympic sport now and uh it's it's
definitely is something that is stronger. And >> more than anything, when you don't give kids somewhere to go, they will find other places to go and then it can create that criminal element where they're being labeled as vandals and trespassers and that psychologically
doesn't have good effects on our people. So that's why it's very important to us as well. >> And that's the closest park they see. >> Yes. >> There's no other between here and there. You know, >> there are skatep parks in every every town, but this that far as what they deal with, they're doing
>> Oh, but there's skatep parks in other I don't have >> Ocean City has one. >> I I live in Hampton. >> Alpha Township has one. Margate has one. >> I mean, not Margate, I'm sorry. >> Atlantic City. >> Yeah, Atlantic City will be close. Then you got Ocean City, which has one, Township has one.
>> Yeah. And and if you go to like North Jersey, New York City, Philadelphia, they've figured this out. every neighborhood, every community out there has them. South Jersey historically has been relatively repressive on skateboarders due to probably the liability fear. But if like I said, if
you talk to the politicians and the governments in North Jersey and New York City and Philadelphia, they've all figured this out. And it's really not the type of sport where kids are showing up with lawyers. They're just showing up to have fun some >> um
nice to see you again. Um I uh I did the contracts for for both of the skate parks. >> Um I can say that you guys have a lot of uh friends in nice places and uh when you guys uh get to go ahead to do a
park, you kind of do it kind of fast. So >> um and there there's a lot of uh it's kind of an artistic endeavor as well. Yes. Um I'm interested to see what you're rendering uh for a car city. Yeah. Um, that's definitely dependent on
the property that you guys grant us to be able to build on. And then from that point, we're able to bring rendering and work with you guys on, you know, what it is and and then we do like to paint the parts and provide murals as well. So, it's really just like a beautiful creative place that
>> I have a question for what kind of impact and comments will we get from the private? >> Yeah. So I I've had a couple discussions with Cavalier about if you're going to close greater than a thousand square
feet with imp service you have to deal with. Um so at this point it's not you definitely have to deal with it. So that's probably deal. Uh yeah, we have not had to deal with that so far, but it would just be an
assumed cost that we would add to the >> it's not just cost studies and requirements. >> Yeah, there's there's some extensive design requirements. They have very strict water quality rules
from TV. >> Yeah, we had some discussions about that when I met with council private thing. They ask us to do what they call TV as well. >> That's not comment about the risk management. I
know for years that >> could you could you uh mute your microphone? >> I'm sorry. Is that me? Excuse me. >> Maybe. Um, I know for years, you know, we always talked about skating out of the
lake, ice skating, >> and other than the fact that it doesn't freeze like it used to. Um, it was always a bad liability >> and they always told us to shy with >> Now, I don't know how ice skating compared to what you do, but right, >> it is a concern, something we'd have to
look at. And I'll ask >> I mean to be honest with you it's no difference than tennis courts, pickle ball courts, uh football fields, baseball fields. There's always a risk of injury. It's not you know you can't go through life expecting that he knows oh you can't do this because somebody's
going to get hurt. >> Probably less of a risk than the playgrounds, >> right? >> Honestly, because the playgrounds are going up high and you know >> Yeah. And I I've I've um I've you know represented communities that have uh skate parks and things like that. I mean it's a sky risk as you
>> um so unless there's a flaw design or something like that that's an inherent danger you know generally so just that as well >> Mr. address or street. >> Yeah. My name is Jeremy. I'm at 327
Liverpool Avenue. >> Okay. >> Um we have vault courts if you look or just because of the age uh the age group they use it like a bunch of like now they're jumping into a sport. Skateboarders are pretty people. So we
don't get enough. Are you saying we're not going to form a senior skateboard city? >> It could be in our future. You said up till the 50s. >> Yeah. >> Call, do you have a does the city have an in-house risk manager or do they have
an outside? I'd like to talk to that. >> We have we have an in-house risk manager. >> So maybe maybe we can trade. >> Also, the city um was able to get around some of the impediments as far as liability because they're self assured. >> Oh, I see. Um if other towns if you have like a GIF you >> Yeah, we're in a statewide.
>> Yeah, you might you might have issues. It's got to get cleared through them. So >> Okay. >> Also, I just wanted to mention we just put in a fitness court and I'm sure there's liability there, too. >> Oh, 100%. >> So, so just something to consider. Also,
if there's like an old parking lot even that the city owns, anything that's already has some pavement, that is typically what we're doing is redoing uh unused or or low used um sparks. So, just something
>> now you thinking impervious impervious. Well, >> it's easier for us too because then we don't have to raise funding the grounds and we can just build right on top of it. in Atlantic City V did a tennis court and an old street hockey court. So yeah, just built right on.
>> Doesn't matter where this site would be. Could be secluded somewhere. >> Oh yeah, that's fine. >> Like an industrial park or >> Exactly. Yeah. >> In the woods somewhere where there's paving. >> I mean, if you look at where the last one >> um
>> I have some ideas. I just as I'm thinking >> one of the places we talked about which I don't know if it would be possible would be right where the fitness park is the other side of that field >> right there >> if the fitness park we had to go through Pinelands for endangered species and
water management if we already had to do that with the fitness park >> so the fitness comes in under their their criteria >> that part yeah and this would be more than a thousand >> it's probably I don't would see it could be probably more than a thousand square feet. But the
impervious already impervious is the idea of a century because then they don't really care what you're doing. >> Yeah. >> I I have one question outsiders like the construction and and permits and all that. Um say that something like this
was to be built and you know we we have this in carpet city. the skate AC have any like programs to teach kids how to skate or you know any sort of like activities that way? >> Yes, we do. And uh we typically get grant funding for that and we would love
to you know build a program like that out here the way we do in Atlantic City. We build uh bring multiple instructors and we have free lessons for the community. So that would totally be something that we would definitely make happen here. >> Excellent. Thank you. Yeah, contests and
little concerts and things like that too to just keep the kids having something to look forward to all the time. >> Another thing we talked about was sign signage that said skaters under the age of a certain certain age wearing a helmet. That was something that you know we talked about for
>> that we felt that that would be you know we can you know highly suggested that you wear a helmet. their parents don't put a helmet on it, that's not our fault, but we can highly suggest >> yes, >> you know, in our signage that helmets are worn. >> And then um one of our parks in Atlantic
City also has uh cameras on it that are attached to the police station so that if you know a skater was attacked, let's say, or something like that, it's all documented and um you know, there'd be something that we'd be willing to help you guys figure out as well if that was
a route you wanted to go down. just because we like having a skater. So, >> when you had the place on the bike between Atlantic Avenue and the Pike Yes. >> Um, how many people would use that? >> I mean, that place was bringing in at
least every weekend I would say 50 to 100 people would come there throughout the day and then >> not at one time. >> I mean, definitely at one time if there was an event um or if just like, you know, they communications went out to all the buddies that uh today was the
day. Sunday especially, you would have like easily 50 people out there. Um, and it was bringing in people from I had friends from Philadelphia who would come visit, people from North Jersey, New York City, people from California, skateboarding really is like a massive community. So once uh people know
there's like a hot spot to go to, they really will, you know, travel. It's it's fun to just >> That's another another thing we'd have to deal with this part. You know, if there's a lot of calls that will come in at a certain time, you know, we've had that same problem. Okay.
>> Yeah. I mean, you know, that's I would say uh probably going to be more throughout the entire day, 50 to 100 people than all at once. But you never know, especially if there's an event, you could easily look at that. >> So, we'll follow up with our
professionals. Yeah. The risk manager of >> I just want to see if we can get the u the chief's uh opinion on how she >> Okay. feet. Um, and it's not where there's traffic. Kids are, you know, most of our
kids are not driving and they're walking. So, you know, I'm worried about pedestri and and you know, the safety of anybody going there on solid five like that. So my biggest concern is the like safe streets and routes that they're taking to get to put on. I am not
opposed to a skate park especially underground you know it can >> I like you don't want to label the youth as you know it's because they don't have a place to
go and that's that's That's a really really good point. It does impact their self-esteem and so so that's that's really important. You provide some place where kids can go that is safe and
protected. If you got some fun cameras, not all of that >> put up cameras, but you know, and if it's some place that's well lit, safe for safe for people to travel and you know, if it's something that's out in
and that has a good community, a decent community, which the skateboard community is. You guys are a good community than if something that's a lot safer than some hidden away places where kids are speaking to adults. So that's my take.
Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. We're gonna lose it. >> We're gonna lose it now. >> For sustainable property, >> I don't have that much of a report. just
uh that three of our members will be attending uh the sustainable jersey lunchon at the league of municipalities on Tuesday. It's always a great lunch and you get a lot of uh inspiration green teams and all the good stuff
they're doing. Uh so look forward to it. >> Thank you. >> That's it. going to be there for land use and >> uh nothing to report other than that there there was a land use meeting but the issue that was addressed um it
wasn't I haven't addressed it however um Ryan I believe will >> thank you councy for DPW >> um there are no agenda items really to directly to public works and the
administrator will give a report on public works when he does his report. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And councilwoman Clark for school board. >> Uh nothing at this time. Thank you. >> Okay. And Donnie, you have anything.
>> All right. Uh, next we have >> question. >> Why is everybody else councilwoman and councilman and I'm Donna? >> I didn't even realize I said >> you're you're a term of the
>> Oh, thanks. >> I think now I'm offended. >> Councilwoman Hessie Kim. >> Yeah. Okay, thank you. U for safety, I'm currently waiting for response from risk management regarding a few questions
raised at the last safety committee meeting that still need clarification. Once I receive the information and provide um and provided that John has no additional reasons for us to convene and the committee has no further need for a
meeting, I will decide whether to hold a safety committee meeting or simply email the answers to everyone within the next week. That's all I have for safety. Although um Jerry, it sounds like um you will be talking to our risk management regarding
the skate park >> tomorrow. >> So I don't need to bring it up to him. Okay. >> No, I'll bring all right. Thanks. >> All right. Uh uh for code uh a code committee meeting was held on October
21st. Uh as a followup to several ongoing items, many issues have already been resolved. Others are currently in progress and a few still require attention. We're pleased to report positive updates to the rental registration forms, including the
ability to submit payments and schedule appointments electronically. Additionally, code enforcement will be using their iPads full-time starting on the first working day in January 2026. The committee recognizes that change is
never easy. However, it's a necessity for us to take this next step to improve efficiency and streamline operations. At our final council meeting of 2025, I will be reviewing the changes that have occurred within the code department
throughout the year. Now, I'll just read quickly the October code department summary. um for uh October its administrative duties were 69 certified mail uh 30 illegal
dumping four in-person notifications 14 inspections 54 investigations 78 red cards issued four telephone email notifications 34 TV tags
still there's TV tags issued five zone zoning review conduct uh conducted 29 and the grand total is 321 um things that they have done for the the month of October and that that's
code Rotary briefly have to say the Rotary would like to thank everyone who participated and attended the Halloween parade because of you it was a great success. On another note, the notary the Rotary code drop box will be available for your
donations through Monday, November 17th. The donations are going to the rescue mission. To clear up any confusion, there are two coat drives going on currently. One is organized by the Rotary and is going directly to the rescue mission and the donation box can
be found outside the city clerk's office. The other is organized by the American Legion and the and a Carver City in order to raise money to purchase a Gulf War monument to display in Lincoln Park. This drive has been extended until November 20th and I
believe the drop off is in the greenhouse. Is that correct, Meg? It's in the greenhouse still. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And um next piece, Pilgrim Park. and the items to be collected can be found on the official Egg Harbor City
Facebook page. So, they're both good causes. So, wherever you decide to donate, you can't go wrong. That's all I have. Thank you everyone. >> Thank you. >> I forgot something. >> Okay. >> I just wanted to make sure everybody knows that on Saturday, this Saturday
coming, we're having a shredding event at uh shredding event. It's going to be a New York in white horse pipe 9:00 a.m. to noon. Uh paper only. And please do not bring any past plastic bags. Um and
whatever you take your boxes, you can take them with you, but it's real quick in and out. So >> you want assistance. >> Good opportunity to No, you just bring your stuff that you >> could. >> Sorry.
>> Excuse me. Thank you. >> No, that's just >> for finance committee. I did get a report from the tax collector's office and for the month of October, we
collected $639,355 in taxes. Uh we also collected $8,786 for next year's taxes. Code enforcement, we collected $3,240. Pilot payments, payment in lie of taxes,
$28,283 for a total of $681,000 for the month. And that puts us year-to date at 9,285,429. Next, number eight, our chief of police. >> Hello everyone. Um, some numbers for
you. Since we last met on October 16th, we've had seven burglaries, one sexual assault, one assault, one deaths, 18 motors, four deaths, 76 traffic stops, a total of 36 suspicion, traffic
suspicions. We've had seven arrests including why. We've had 12 business alarms, six residential alarms, 209 prevention activities, one street calls, six domestics, 20 EMS incidents, three or five fire alarms, ID applications, email follow-ups, 82 property checks,
and 11 public service offices. Few things to address, folks. We have uh I'm going to go out on a limb and say she has a one bandit who is going around stealing of all sorts uh um to from from uh
vehicles from sheds from all kinds of places. Um so please make sure that everything is locked up uh safely. We have had some unlocked um dwellings and cars where there have been things. Don't leave things outside.
Please. Um if anybody has any cameras in the areas, um we still around looking for more cameras, but we have knocked on some doors. Um but if you do see anything suspicious, please just give us call emergency line 609625700.
We are uh doing uh extra patrols all over the place looking at stuff. So better to call and give you nothing than to have some stuff taken. thefts. We had an uptick in shoplifting of
shopping. Um, you know, so we uh we dealt with that. Um, a lot of stores did not want to file any complaints. Uh, however, those folks were trespassed from stores. So, we'll see how that works out. Um, we have one
sexual assault. We do other warrant out for that suspect. Um, you know, identify and we will show up. I do believe we'll be aware of this. Um, other than that, yes, we did have 18.
I did a little comp study between us and Hamilton Township. We have 11 point, we are 11.4 square miles. They're about 110 square miles. We have 50.9 square miles of they have 28 miles. They had
128 blacks in the same time that we had we had 18. So for us that's 6 orders per day. They have 4.5 per day. The amount of traffic that they have is much greater than those. So 6 per day is not horrible for the amount of traffic that
we have that comes through. Not that they're that we should have any accidents. The majority of the accidents that we've had are turns folks making turns not paying attention to the vehicles that are coming um up front. Then we all in front of them but we also have a lot of uh vehicle accidents that
are in parking lots. talk about that. Um existence because that parking lot is horrible. Um people backing out, zipping through a few vehicles. We did have one fairly serious moment of the black accident where a pedestrian was struck. Unfortunately, we are still trying to
determine who was his fault. It was a situation where one vehicle stopped in the fast lane to let a pedestrian cross. Um vehicle came up on the third lane. The pedestrian could not be seen by this person. the driver in the early didn't know whether this guy was making a left
hand turn whether he was just stopped and unfortunately he uh passed the baby the pedestrian I did speak to the pedestrian today he was moved from IC to a regular room so he is doing better than he was after the refinance so he
needs to make a recovery of hopefully of everything but so big >> but I don't think so >> well I mean as much as he can >> yes right as >> but but
so um but so he uh he he's gonna make it. >> Yeah. >> So that's that's that's what um so that's what we've had going on in town here. Um some good things that have happened. Uh our first was great like to
thank her for putting that together. It was awesome. The dedication was beautiful. you have not taken a look at the uh monument that is very very close to home or something. I hope to god that happened to it because it was very expensive. It's very beautiful. Um but um it's it's quite
nice. Go take a look at it. Um but we did have a very nice showing of fire trucks and uh emergency vehicles going down um Philadelphia Avenue on October 28th. um like to thank the is it the
kickoo and the BFW for uh providing us and cooking our hamburger Michigan chicken and for the fire department for allowing us into their sacred halls. They don't like to let us in there at all. Um but it was nasty and cold out so they did let us in. So thank you very
much. Um so but yeah uh Halloween was great. I did get a text from the mayor the next day saying that someone called her saying that there was an assault and that somebody died. No, that did not happen. Police stop false information on Facebook or wherever the hearing is. Um
I did have to call her and say that I hope she had more faith in me to let her know when things like um >> you know. >> Um but yeah, we've had a few training some alpha test training. We we move over from our old Alpata test to our new
Alpa test which is probably not much different but everybody has a quick rating on it. So standing a year it's a mad rush. We've got three people taking notice ratings. Um yeah upcoming things shop with a cop. I'm going to ask all of you guys to dig into your pockets. As
with everything it's gone up. It's 120 bucks for one kid this year. I've contacted the school. We have a few names. I will email each of you where you can send your checks or you can just give them to me. Um, that goes for any bike shop. It's a really great thing. You get to go and have breakfast and
shop with kids from our communities who may not be able to have a really good Christmas. They get to spend $100 at Walmart. They get to run around with cops. They have a wonderful time having breakfast at the beach building. Then there is a big parade of lights and sirens with all kinds of emergency
vehicles down the black horse. Everybody else hates us because it blocks traffic all down the black horse place. But we don't care because we go from Bridge Avenue to Walmart in Mace Landing. Then we take over that Walmart and the folks who are there hate us as well because
it's just a bunch of cops and kids running around. But it's a lot of fun for us and for the kids and it really does make their day because they get to spend some money on themselves. And it's really heartwarming because sometimes these kids will be like, "Well, I want to get this for my mom or I want to do this for that." and we have to remind
them that it's for them. So, if you can find it in your hearts, please help us out so that they can go and make some kids. But that's about all I have other than the 16. Yeah, you won't be here uh the the 13th. Yes. Sorry. Um we have our
winter bazaar on the 6th of December tree lighting. So, please come out for that. Lots of fun. Ice skating on middle of 100 block of Philadelphia Avenue. So, yes, we have liability if they they are covered. So, I know that's a big thing. Talk to the risk manager. Um, please
maybe you guys can come out and show us some skateboarding stuff on these ice skates. Pretty cool. Um, but you know, so we have whack-a-ole, we'll have a movie, we'll have fake snow, which the kids always love, and the adults as well. Um, and in the middle there, we will have the tree lighting. The always
puts together a wonderful ceremony with that. So, please join us for that. And then we can go Yeah, I'll be able to talk to you after the phrase after the next one. So, I'll talk about that. I'll leave you.
>> Just a question. How many kids typically have for shopping? >> Oh, man. So, >> for typically we do we try to do four or five um depends on how much funding you get, you know. Um, I've been able to
strongarm some people into, you know, uh, giving some some more money and, you know, we'll chip in too. So, you know, and, you know, honestly, what winds up happening is when we go, like sometimes the kids will spend a whole >> So, we coordinate with schools and I've talked to some churches as well because
some kids are homeschooled and whatnot. We talked we talked to them about you know kids who have kind of not fallen through the cracks but good kids you know whose parents are sometimes you know just can't provide you know so so that's how we kind of help them do it
when oh so chocolate pop is also December 6th so um it's that morning that's a long day from from like 7 a.m. until whenever the bizarre is over. Um, but yeah, so that's on the 6th and yeah,
so like I said, I will be sending the email out to you guys information. You can have your chance to see me by the 21st. Greatly appreciate it. Um, >> I'll put it. Are you working tomorrow? >> I put it in my mailbox. You can grab
>> Okay, fantastic. I will get I will get that from you. Proceed. >> Don't leave. We got to make it up. >> HTL. >> All right. Anything else? >> Thank you. >> Okay. Number nine. Oh, report. Thank
you. >> Uh, city clerk, city administrator. >> Hi. Um, thought I was just charity. Um, so, um, >> to skip people.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Leaf season's in full swing. Everybody knows that um it uh is has not been a challenge yet. We need to have more piles out there because I want it to be a challenge, but it's working out really well. Um so other than that, it's a little bit of a lull at DPW right now.
Uh we're trying to do some improvements around the yard and um prepare for the winter. There's some trucks with plows on them even though it's not going to snow anytime soon. >> So we hope. >> Yeah. Um, as far as um code to augment
what Kim said, we have issued 13 code compliance um notices for vehicles without license plates and um we are currently interfacing with those individuals. So
that's uh that's starting. Um our tree the tree man is called the tree man is doing elevation pruning. They're starting in on the avenues and they're doing hazard um wood removal. So, a lot of it is because I overheard a comment
from one of our fire departments to Nette about the fire truck hitting of the trees. And so, we're trying to prevent that. Um since we have the grant money, moving into that direction now where we have a full-time crew in in the city three three four days a week with three
individuals doing the relationship. So, that's moving along. I don't have a definite date on when the first tree is going to be planted. The first of 200 trees, not 20, 200 trees, but you will see a lot of markouts throughout the city. Um, and it's because of trees that
have um a week a week from today, we will be um trained to be a film ready New Jersey community. Uh and so at the next council meeting, I will ask Meg to add a
resolution for council's consideration uh to apply for that designation. And what that does is opens up a lot of grant money for us as well as individuals who want to come here and film in the city of which we can charge them to do so.
And then the last item is um we have three lots on New Orleans that we've been working on for a couple of months now. um they were subdivided. They've been surveyed. We have a basic um reserve price from our real estate
broker and so we'll be advertising them um this week or early next week to go out so that we can start to get bids on those three lots. I think that's others have told me that's been in the works for a little while. Yeah. So, I'm glad
that's happened. That's it. Okay. Thank you. Is the leaf program done? >> No, >> because I seen them out today. >> Yeah, they'll be out. They'll be out until the end. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Towards the end towards the end of the year. >> Okay.
>> All right. Uh number 12, city attorney. >> Nothing there. >> And birthday boy. >> Sure. >> Start with uh the Atlantis board application that Carl left us earlier. Uh we had a company called the Humble Organics come in for a use variance at
1123 Atlantic Avenue. Um it's a building that has historically been used for industrial uses and uh is in the highly commercial zone. So it's undersized is right next to stream and there's not a lot of development potential. So uh the land use granted a use
variance to allow for cultivation in that building. So after that was the application. Uh moving into the city projects um Buffalo Avenue, we had our pre-construction meeting. We've been in contact with the contractor. Um we're likely going to
start that project in spring. It's it's just too late to start now. The the process that they use um for preparing the roof is very temperature sensitive by the time they at least March 1st. We have completed
the tree work on Buffalo that's been completed. Yeah, that's out of y and sort of the partner project that with that will be uh reconstruct dri street which is really the construction of Dreek street from Baltimore. Um we're just waiting to hear back from DOT. Um apparently there was
some confusion about modify the project limits because we asked for like $600,000 and we got less than half of that. Um so we eliminated a portion for the original application and there's um and we're asking for a cost estimate they already had but uh their website now says that we should have authorization by 11:22. So I'm hoping
that we can bid it and award it in the December meeting and then the work again will start around March 1st. I sort of jumped to the bottom of the list but only because >> one of those project Burgers. >> Well so the the Buffalo Avenue project we will be extending up Burger Street as
far as funding goal. Yeah. Um so the the next one that is um going out to bid is the city hall ADA improvements number three on the list. Um so we got authorization the advertisement will be in on Saturday. We're at the bid opening on December
11th and we anticipate the December meeting. Um next will be the lake and campground. Um we have been we're still waiting for response from finance commission after we met with this award out of lake. So
some month a little over a month now since that. Um but we're still moving forward with other things. The uh electrical design was was pretty much wrapped up. But um we did a conceptual design for uh the storm, I'm sorry, for
the sanitary and the water extensions out to the lake. And uh after we started looking at elevations and where the invert is at the live big avenue pump station um we're going to require a small pump station at the campground itself. So it'll be like a little
prepackaged fiberglass one set of um but we figured while we're doing the electrical upgrades it kind of makes sense to just size all that and install the electric in the panel that we're going to build for the electric upgrades for the camp. Um so we'll be providing a proposal to sort of circle back and do
that and you know just not the full design but at least size uh the pump station for what the electrical load demands will be piece incorporated just to project and multiple patterns but I believe the full design for >> yeah that's yeah we figure once we once
we come to agreement with New Jersey American water on exactly what the plan is okay then we'll give it the full >> how much work is involved with the pipelines Um, there shouldn't be much because it's already in the sewer service area and it's underground utilities, so there's no permanent disturbance. There's no
creation of impervious surface. >> Yeah. >> Um, yeah, it really shouldn't be shouldn't be too bad. >> It's a well loose location. >> Yeah. Should be all right. >> Yeah. I mean, frankly, I think they'll be they'll be happier to see the septic systems eliminated so close to the body
water. So, I I don't expect that it'll get much resistance, but I have any promises. Yeah. Um, uh, improvements we're still working through. Again, that's part of the nitrogen issue that we've got some work on that. Uh, New Orleans 7, Jerry talked
about the county wants us to file an application because it's on Gear Stream. So, we're have to go through that formal process, but that shouldn't take long and there's no fee. Um, so we're just trying to wrap that up. Uh, the Ivank project, we're still waiting to hear back from D on their environmental
review. We reached out to funding side because there's people that want to get the money spent and people actually have to do the work. They don't always see CI to eye. So they told us they were setting up an internal meeting to try to figure out how to get us on track to ensure that we get FY26 $3 million in
principal the city's entitled. >> Okay. The technical assistance. There's other communities that I'm involved in that I know what goes on. >> We're the only ones that have an appointment to meet with the technical assistance people. Right. the others the others don't have that email in their
inbox. >> Yeah. So that's that's sort of it's a complimentary program, right? So we have two two separate applications going on. But yeah, you you get $3 million in construction and design and then two million in study and design. So we're trying to move all of that forward as quickly as we can so we can get this
fiscal year's funding locked in because it goes by fiscal year. They they anticipate having four funding for this year and next year at minimum. So, we want to make sure we get you guys two years of roof funding rather than just >> that's the meeting we're trying to set up for December 10th >> on one of the dates. I think yeah two
weeks I can't remember my point is other communities have not bending us through seven. So, it's very positive for us. >> Y in the right direction. Um and then on the back side it's it's really just updates the key that's sort of waiting
for reaction from um the updated plan. Um but once we have some real feedback there I'll be gone for that. So that December um brownfields will be working actually have a meeting with Jeff Day tomorrow to to go over some of the stuff there. Um then the HSR gateways so move
forward. um the master plan. The city is engaged with another consultant for some grant funding they got which uh they anticipate issuing a report which will require um some of the recommendations to be effectuated in the land use element that they're expecting you've done that in March. So we're hoping to
try to have everything ready and just wrap that all up at the same time. We can just roll it in rather than finishing and restarting. We have we have this. >> Okay. So, that one's already done. >> I don't remember what the other one >> and I shared that the other day.
>> Good. >> Incorporate that as well. >> Um, and then the Philadelphia Avenue projects, uh, no change in status from the county yet, but I, as far as I'm aware, they have not bid the bridge project yet and anticipating bidding that awarding it in November. Um, so
they so it seems that they're behind that schedule. >> Did you say that they're still did have a pilot? Yeah, I still don't have a permit. That's why I haven't bid it. >> The November the November bid date, if I can just interject, the November bid date was because they want to try to get make sure that we didn't have an issue
with our camera. >> So, that's all I have. Somebody has a question. >> The um sewer out of the lake, is that going to take care of the septic tank over on the pavilion side also? Are they going to allow you to run the sewer pipes over the No. the sewer service
area stops at before the um so there there'll still be a small subject system on the other side but we'll be able to eliminate um the the restrooms that are there now that have that holding tank and the concession stand the bathrooms that are down there >> right and then all of the camp sites will be directly connected
>> but anything on my side of the lake >> we say pioneer >> yeah well that's we effectively got the never don't bother asking never putting cigar on the other side of the lake that's what you Yeah, exactly. >> I found out it never has a deadline sometimes.
>> Sometimes that's but >> anybody else. Thank you. >> Oh, just one thing. Um the red flags on uh Liverpool. You said >> country
red flags coming up. That means there's electric in the ground. >> Electric or communications >> in the ground. >> Yeah. I mean, if it's not >> all the telephone calls, >> sometimes they run underground utilities for various reasons, but um I don't have
to look and see what it is where it is. We're going to work around it. It's a tree, so it's going to work around it. But >> there was a question that we talked about earlier that we wanted to see if you knew anything. Yeah. >> I didn't expect the flags to show up there. No, I would think not, but it's typically electric or
telecommunications. >> I have a question. >> Actually, uh Ryan, we had spoken before and you said you were going to bring it up and let people know about the black top that they put for the sidewalks temporarily just in case anyone has
questions about this over by the Moravian Church. >> Yes, I'm sorry. We talked about that I think at the end of the last council meeting. Um you you may notice as South Jersey Gas does work throughout town um they will remove sidewalk portions and when they do the restoration they'll
just put asphalt back. That is a temporary restoration in all situations. They um have a concrete contractor that comes in and does final restorations everywhere. But if they were to pay them to come out every day and do that be a ridiculous cost. So they come in and they can just sort of push the asphalt
in, compact a little bit and that gives you a pass will hard the surface um you know during the duration it's going through when the project is over um they'll they'll circle back and concrete contractor form it all up and eight or 10 of them in one day. So one of the set
Well exactly any any trench settlement all that will happen and then when you put the concrete back you don't have to worry about it breaking because it's soft. So, have you seen people putting basketball back or sidewalk kids? I guess it's temporary. >> I don't know. I thought that where I
live putting a bike path on the sidewalk near me. Have you seen that at mainland? No. >> I asked about it and you were like, "Oh, there's a bike then a bike." >> That was the plan. >> Yeah. Looks very visible. >> Do you use the bike? >> Yeah, but it's not really on the bike path. That's like, you know, in front of
mainland. >> Yeah. I'll talk to you later. >> I I have one other one other request of Brian. Brian, did you find anything out about the shared services and the um and the uh road pothole the pothole patch machine
>> for the shared >> I I asked um the engineer that we have that does most of the work in Atlantic City. He hasn't got anything back yet. Um, we used to there used to be a contact that I was at city was no longer there. So, um, I was not able to ask
directly and I don't I don't I never get anything back. I I will ask again, but [Music] is Toro your your CFO still? >> Yes, >> she is. Okay, I'll call her and see if I
can get something from >> that. >> Thank you. It just reminded me something about that meeting that you sent an email out about the regional uh constructions being done by DOT.
>> Yes. >> Is there is there going to be a meeting about that? >> Yeah. So that's a planned 2027 project I think. Um so we got a notice uh essentially that they were starting the process um and they advised that they're
repaving Route 50 from Route 30 to somewhere about it. It was a pretty long stretch. Um, so as part of that, we've had discussions for many years about trying to get DOT and New Jersey Transit to connect the inlets um from the
northwest side of Room 50 on Atlantic Avenue to the opposite side because there's two inlets that just connect to each other and just, you know, infiltrate down into the ground and they don't go anywhere. >> In the winter, you end up with large puddles with ice and it's it's definitely a problem. has come on top,
but it's in an area that we essentially have no jurisdiction. So, there's no way for us to unilaterally run the pipe across. Um, so if they're gonna it's it's supposed to be a mil overlay job for the most part, but they're doing other work in the room. Um, they're doing ADA ramps, they're doing some
minor firmware improvements from I understand. So, this is, I think, our best opportunity um in all the time that I've been here to get them to run a pipe to connect the inlets on the northwest side to the southwest side to eliminate that drainage. That'll be good. So, >> would that be inappropriate for us to
talk about the potholes all along the White Horse Pike where catch basins are? >> Oh, you can get both. >> We can talk about it. >> I got a big one in front of my house. Sorry. >> That's not what this meeting is going to be. >> It's not. And there's two different sides of DOT and when we talk to them, they're going to say, "We'll call the
maintenance." So, we did our project and now it's in >> I talked to somebody there already and I got nowhere. >> Yeah. I So, >> okay. Well, keep trying. Yeah. >> And and maybe we could get them to put that left-hand turn lane down the center
of the bike that we asked for 15 years ago. >> No, city council had a vote on that and they voted no to that. >> Sure. >> Yeah. You're you're too high volume for the road diet, which is seems to fall in fashion most places. But um you know,
going down to a single lane in one direction obviously works somewhere on the bike because they just did it down the street. So >> that's right. that so there's there's some precedent for that. >> Okay. Happy birthday. >> Thank you. All right. Number 14 is
motion to approve the use of the AC city lake for Jersey Shore Council Southern Shore District Scouting America Klondike Derby for January 17th and 18th, 2026 and Cub
Scout Day camp August 10th to the 14th, 2026. Second. >> Motion has been made and seconded. Is there any questions? All in favor? >> I vice.
>> Okay. Number 15 is resolution for budget transfers. Joe, you want to just uh click for you? >> Just um the last two months of the year we're allowed to have made budget transfer. So there's the money left in one account versus that we want to use
towards something. So just some of the larger ones um transfers we were able to charge some Jerry's salary to the to um one of the tree grants. So some of that it's able to move to engineering. We have a couple
projects mostly for the um Harbor North um you'll see later on I did a resolution for the Antworp Avenue redevelopment. Um, we're also doing one for AR North, but the money to establish the reserve, we only had enough to do one that way. So, the other one I was
going to do by transfer. So, that's one of the reasons you'll see so much of engineering. Hopefully once we get a developer we can remove some of those costs but for now obviously >> we did get some we did get some escro but >> we did get escro
>> um vehicle maintenance um going up for that and we're trying to sort of I think we've kind of talked about this kind of trying to do a little bit more with enterprise so we can kind of get right now we're not really at that point where it's we're turning over enough vehicles to really get the equity
back. So, we're kind of trying to sell some of the older vehicles. So, we're really kind of getting to that point, right, where it's making sense and we are, you know, even if our costs stay the same versus go up slightly, at least they're all brand new vehicles. They're more efficient ones, but kind of self-explanatory. Let
me know if you have any questions. >> Okay. Anybody any questions? Okay. Is there a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made and second. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Toby, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes.
>> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Right? >> Yes. >> Okay. Resolution passes. Number 16, chapter 159 for the two 2025 safety grant. Is there
a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. Any questions on the motion? Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Right?
>> Yes. >> That motion passes. Number 17, resolution chapter 159, sustainable Jersey Grant. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Questions? You want to just
>> Oh, yes. Um, this is a s a sustainable Jersey Atlantic City electric grant. Um, it will be used to do a forestry study north of the lake. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes.
>> Heist, >> yes. >> Pessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Write, >> yes. >> Resolution passes. Okay. Number 18, resolution preliminary reserve Antorb Avenue redevelopment area. Is there a
motion? >> Explain that. >> Well, >> no, it's fine. a resource for the land. >> So, um, one of the ways that you can kind of fund something without say like putting it through the regular operating budget is if you're doing
preliminary costs for a project, which equinering is considered preliminary if you're having like a redevelopment or some kind of other project. So, this um this is the project for that Jeff Day was a point of redevelopment for. So, this was for the work that Remington has
to do for like basically creating that redevelopment. We did get an escro, right? >> This is escro. >> This is not escro. >> This is ours. >> This is ours right now. At some point, it will be possible. So, this it's it's a potential item that could go into the
Ats. >> Any other questions? >> Roll call, please. >> I made a second. >> Okay. Uh Clark, yes. Doy, >> yes. Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Yes.
>> Kener, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Great, >> yes. >> Okay, resolution passes. Number 19, resolution accepting a 75% remedial action BDA grant from the
hazardous discharge site remediation fund municipal program through the New Jersey economic development authority and the department of environmental protection and appointing an authorized representative. >> Motion >> motion
>> second. >> Second questions. I have a what's the numbers? >> Okay. This is all started all part of the same project. >> Is there a number on this?
>> How much? >> Six. >> It's not that 75%. It doesn't say it's a lot of money. >> There's a lot of money in this. >> A lot in this. >> Just a lot. There's a lot. Okay.
>> 5 million a year up to 5 million a year. >> Okay. Uh please >> Clark. >> Yes. >> This is for 595,737,000. This particular >> 595 is the portion for this year. >> I said yes. >> Galloway.
>> Yes. >> Heist. >> Yes. >> Yes. Gainer. >> Yes. >> Timbers. >> Yes. >> Right. >> Yeah. A resolution passes. Uh number 20, a resolution authorizing an RFP for
engineer services for the fiscal year 2025 ADA improvements to the senior center. >> Make that motion. >> Second. >> Motion has been made and seconded. Is there questions? >> Yeah. Why are we going out to bid for engineering services? We have to have an
outside engineer for the final at the senior's response. I don't think so. >> I thought we were doing an RF for the ADA improvements at the senior center. That's what I thought we would done. No, we had to uh we have a a proposal that
was included with the application just authorization to start. So, >> this was sent by triad. >> They sent that in. >> Okay. It might be because it's DCA funded. They might the fair and open process services. So
>> even if we have an appointed engineer, I'll I'll talk. >> Do we want to ask this or take? >> Yeah. >> Is there a motion? >> I'll make a motion table. >> Second. >> Motion made second. All in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion's tabled. >> Okay. Number 21, resolution accepting and approving a community forestry management plan for the city of A Harbor City for 20125 to 29 and authorizing the submission of the plan to the New Jersey
Forest Fire Service. >> Motion second. >> Motion made and seconded. Freshness. Roll call, please. >> Clark, yes. Toby, yes. >> Galloway, yes. Heist. >> Yes. >> Pepsi. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Timbers. >> Yes. >> Right. >> Yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 20. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Number 22 is resolution for 100%
disabled veteran tax exemption face number 2025 cash2. Make the motion. Second. Motion made. Seconded. Questions? Rolls. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Doby, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> He
>> Yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Right. >> Yes. >> Resolution passes. Number 23, resolution designating Sea and Leaf Cultivation LLC as the conditional redeveloper of 111 New York
Avenue, block 1.07, lot 7. Is there a motion? >> Motion. >> You second. Okay. Questions? >> I have a question. >> I have a question. >> Go ahead.
>> Uh, did I miss an end date for the uh seed leaf to be a conditional redeveloper? Is there is there a certain amount of time that we have to keep them as a conditional redeveloper or is it >> my question too? >> What do you mean amount of time?
>> Uh usually right usually we'll give them x amount of time to make this decision before we and and then we will you know reconsider whether we want them to be the conditional redeveloper. So, >> is that what we did before out at uh
>> it's it's what we have typically done because the city typically owns the properties. This property is privately owned and they're my understanding is currently the contract purchaser. So, if they own the property, there's not really an opportunity to appoint a redeveloper and move to somebody else.
So, that's that's why that's a big >> My question is at this point they're asking us to change >> to to reconsider it, right? because it really isn't the right area for that at this point. >> So there's a there's a prior redevelopment plan and a prior
redeveloper who is still duplicated who no longer owns the property. So the only real opportunity that the city has to designate as a developer is whoever owns the property or whoever that party is working with. So it's for all city own we want a timeline because we are
essentially committing to that party and we need to be able to cut them off if they're not meeting their promises. In this case, the the private party owns the property. So there's no real opportunity for us to remove them as redeveloper and appoint somebody else if they own the property. Can't designate department developer.
>> Well, we can't give them like well then it's off the table basically to leave it as a because it's we're not able to use it at this point unless we decide they can't use it for um cannabis at this point. Is that correct?
>> That's correct. So there they're >> we're voting on that pretty much. So >> no no no no no absolutely not. So we at this point we're voting to name them as the conditional redeveloper so that we can begin to negotiate whatever proposed use presumably cannabis cultivation that
they would want to see. If if we go through that process and it's not fruitful and we don't come to an agreement that the city is comfortable with, then we won't modify the redevelopment. This does not commit the city to modify the redevelopment plan. just designates an entity for us to work
with to attempt to to modify the bill. >> So, >> yes. So, either can get out of the contract, right? If if >> Yes. >> Correct. >> Right. Neither party's committed to anything. But again, we having a timeline to remove them doesn't make
sense because they'll steal them. >> And we will we will bring this back after a plan is in place, right? They present a plan, >> right? you you would designate them as the conditional redeveloper. We'll have a negotiation phase where we'll talk about them about what proposed uses they want, what land use requirements they
want, setbacks, building nights, things like that. >> So to her question, we're not actually voting to approve this, >> correct? That they can move forward and start building. We're voting, >> right? Unless unless this is approved, you you're not able to negotiate with the land owner for the redevelopment
agreement, >> which is where you want to be um to see this project move forward. And if you don't and if you can't come to terms with the um with uh the property owner um then the redevelopment plan never gets approved and that case we we wouldn't approve the redevelopment plan
or we would resend the uh designation as as conditional redevelopment for the property. >> My only concern with all this is that um this redevelopment plan has been revised numerous times and the property still languishes there and nothing's
happening. >> Yeah. So without a to me without a an end date on this >> they could take their sweet time getting their license doing all that stuff going for this or going for that approval whatever. >> Yeah. And in the meantime we are trying
to get a develop a rate developer for that whole area. >> Yeah. And yeah I mean I can tell you there is motivation from these folks. I mean they've already submitted money in escrow. >> They literally watch like they're ready to go. >> Yeah. So >> they're not
>> they have >> Yeah, they're do have the additional license as well from the state. >> So they do have that already. >> Not a fine. >> Well, I I know one of the things is with the redevelopment plan, we can we can
negotiate with them how the site's going to look after everything's done inside. We we can make sure the outside looks good to it, >> right? It's going to overlay the zoning. So, right decision and this top property has been sitting there for a long time with
nothing other than some bricks being put on the wall. >> But, I mean, look, it's a little it's it's the lion's point is a little tricky because it's not city own property, right? So, you're you're trying to get somebody to do something on their own private property. Um, and this is really
the only mechanism we have as government entity to try to get people to do something on the problem. >> But as you said, they're motivated to move forward by the body. So that's us a pretty good sign that we should do. >> Can I just Jerry, excuse me, Jerry, can
you reiterate? Did you say they have a license at this point? Yeah, we they have a conditional license from the state and it's conditional, Kim, only because they don't have a designated or a location yet. That's what this process is all about.
>> That's what I thought they had to have first. >> Now, this is just cultivation. It's not manufacturing. >> Do we know that, Ron? >> We do not. >> They're not a presentative plan or anything, >> but that would be part of the discussion >> of negotiation. Yeah, my understanding is I would not
intent. That's not >> not retail. But one of the concerns that I've heard was about smell >> in a neighborhood. >> Sure. So if that's a manufacturing could >> well really any of the uses generated
but yeah we can as part of that process we can talk aboutations. >> All right. Uh the roll call please. Clark. Uh, yes. Dovy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. >> Heist, >> yes. >> Hessie, >> yes. >> Kenir, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes.
>> Right. >> Yes. >> The resolution passes. Uh number 24 is to introduce ordinance number 20-2025 amending the code of the city of a Carver chapter 235 streets and sidewalks
adding article 7 titled tree removal and replacement advertised the notice of introduction uh having the gazette on November 19th a public hearing on nove or December 18th >> motion second >> motion's been made and seconded
Questions on the motion hearing? None. No >> open. >> Yes. All in favor. >> I posted eyes have it. Motion's passed. Ordinance is introduced.
>> Number 25. Introduce ordinance number 21-2025 amending the code of city of Carver chapter 235 article one snow and ice cream and the same advertisement and introduction notice. >> Um can you just make a comment on that?
>> Sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. This came up last year because I think Jody scared everybody. >> But um what we've what we suggested last year um well I guess this year but >> last winner >> was um to reduce to remove the the um
recommendation for jail time >> to reduce the fine $500 for personal defense instead of 2,000 for jail time. and um to give um property owners uh up to 24 hours >> instead of instead of eight and that was
with we did research into this and that's consistent with um what most municipalities have. I mean eight eight hours is is a tight window especially if snow in the middle of the night is bad for um hours into the day. 24 hours is usually pretty pretty be fair and uh
$500 files >> and again it's at the discretion of the code of course >> any other questions all in favor >> that was we did get a motion introduce. [Music] >> Yeah, we did. >> Motion for what?
>> I think introduce No, I said I'll pay the 500. >> I'll make a motion shovel in his snow. >> Do it. >> Okay. Number 26, public hearing ordinance number 19-2025,
amending chapter 251, the title towing of the code of the city of a car. Is there a motion to hold a public hearing? >> Second motion made second. All in favor? >> I opposed. Okay, public hearing is open.
Anyone wish to be heard on this ordinance? Second call. Okay. Motion to close. >> Second. >> Motion made second. Close the public hearing. All in favor? >> I public hearing's closed. Is there a
motion to adopt? >> Motion. >> I second it. >> Motion made second to adopt. Roll call. >> Clark. Yes. Dovy. >> Yes. >> Galloway. >> Yes. >> Pice. >> Yes. Hessie. >> Yes. >> Peter. >> Yes. >> Timbers.
>> Yes. Right. >> Yes. >> The motion passes and will be advertised November 19th. Okay. Number 27 is the bill list. Is there a motion to pay the bills? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion made second. Questions on the
bill. Roll call, please. >> Clark, yes. >> Doy, >> yes. >> Galloway, >> yes. Heist, >> yes. >> Hessie, >> yes. >> Kener, >> yes. >> Timbers, >> yes. >> Yes.
>> Okay. Uh, mayor is not here. So, uh, Councilman, right? >> Uh, yeah. The only thing I really got really is, um, if the skate park, all the things come correctly and we can get find the pieces. I mean, I recommend, you know, that's something that I think
the city can get and use, um, I think it'd be great for the kids. I mean, as of right now, if you're down at the Caders Field during on Saturdays or whatever, the tennis courts is now the skate park. Um, so, um, I think it'll be a great idea for these kids. Um, keep
them off from skating down Billy A and give them a little area of their own. So, um, I mean, I just hope that, you know, city council won't, you know, put a label on a group because of um, you know, whatever the case may be, why
people say what they say, but um, I mean, that happens anywhere and that could be anything. So to me, um I think it's a great thing for the city and I hope that um you know, city city council sees it the same way. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> And >> I would like to wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. >> We only get one meeting. Happy Thanksgiving. >> Clark, >> I I Do you want to go down the line? I have a little spiel. >> Okay.
>> Okay. All right. Um, just it's dramatic. It's it's I'm having a very proud mama moment. So, I'm just going to read this off. When it comes to sports, oftentimes we get so caught up in the championships, trophies, and fanfare that we rarely
look and properly recognize the true victories when it comes to the kids of Egg Harbor City. I would like to take this opportunity to recognize the Egg Harbor City Crusaders and family for going above and beyond expectations. From October 15th through November 1st, we held a community food drive. And in
those 16 days, we collected close to 200 pounds of non-p perishable items for no one hungry in in Eber City. At the same time, I asked that each child in both cheer and football bring in $1 for the purchase of one turkey on behalf of each level of cheer and football. The original goal was seven turkeys, and we
ended up with enough donations to provide 20 turkeys and five complete family meals. The junior varsity squad alone raised over $100. These families, young men and young women rallying together to serve their community is a true victory this season.
Congratulations to the Carver City Crusaders, the families, the volunteers, Councilman Mason Wright, and the Crusaders board for a successful year and showing that we're not just a team, but we're also a family that leads Green. Our teams may have not finished the season with championships, but it
goes without saying that they have made us all proud just the same. You always win when you serve others through love. Thank you uh Crusaders for tackling hunger in Carver City. Also, good luck to Cedar Creek football in group three south sectional finals against mainland
this weekend. Um the game is at home on Saturday starting at noon. Uh and we will also need help in the snacks dance so the upperassman moms can watch their kids play if anyone wants to come and help out. Thank you. That's all and happy Thanksgiving. Very
>> nice. Thank you. Thank you. >> I just want to say happy Thanksgiving to everybody and kudos to the kids of the Crusaders. I know. Um, last week I went out for the Republican club and took my granddaughter with me who's seven and we
shopped for 10 meals for No One Hungry. And my seven-year-old daughter pushed that cart with 10 meals for No One Hungry, five meals for the Moravian Church. And she pushed that cart through Walmart without running over one person, covered pile high with turkeys and cans.
And she loved every minute of it. And she couldn't wait to tell her dad what she did and why she did it. So, it does affect the kids. It does show them how to give back to others. So, happy Thanksgiving everyone and enjoy your family. >> Thank you, Councilman Dobby.
>> Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Have a great holiday. Thank you. September. >> I want to say happy Thanksgiving. Also want to say congratulations to our young uh scholar athletes. Um and uh for Cedar
Creek, good luck this week. I wanted to say that too. So, good luck to Cedar Creek because that's a I think that's a big deal for our town. >> Yep. >> And for our area also, I have a grandson that goes to Ocean City High School and I was bragging about how good Cedar
Creek was and then Ocean City went up beating. So, that was a little little thing we got going. But, happy Thanksgiving to everybody and um that's all I have. So, uh, council has
>> I just want to also say happy Thanksgiving. And the other thing I wanted to say was, um, I know there's supposed to be movies next next Wednesday, November 19th in the park. So, uh, don't forget about the movies on Wednesday. Bring your chair. It's from 7
to 9 and it's supposed to be Jamani, I believe. So, um, that's all I have to say. Happy Thanksgiving. >> Is that what it is? Jamandi. >> Jam. >> Jami. That's what come out. What do
>> you want to say? >> Okay. Number 29 is public comments. Anyone wish to be heard. >> Oh Lord. [Music] want to say it's been a nice
amazing don't know if anyone told you they haven't >> he gets paid every two weeks doing amazing I'm looking forward to the new year going to be awesome and amazing and happy Thanksgiving everybody.
>> Thank you. >> Anyone else? Mr. Beard motion to adjurnn. >> I'll second. All in favor?