Please rise for the flag to the flag of the United States of America stands nation. Welcome to the June 12th, 2025 AC Carver City Council meeting. In compliance with the open public meetings
act, the state of New Jersey, adequate notice of this meeting, the aver city common council was provided in the following manner was posted on the AC Carver City bulletin board on the AC Carver city website and it was sent to the Hammond Gazette and the Atlantic
City Press. Roll call, please. Mayor Jim Petty here. Clark here. Councilman Dash will not be here. Dovy here. Oh, there you go. Galloway here.
Heist here. Pessie here. Kenir here. Timbers here. Wright here. Okay. Number four on our agenda is approve the minutes for May 22nd, 2025. Motion. Second. Motion made second. All
in favor? I I approve. Okay. Number five. I I just want to make a a statement. We have number 28 uh that um was advertised that we were going to
do it tonight. Uh however, it's being postponed until rescheduled to the 26th meeting, the public hearing. Public hearing for that ordinance. And um number 17, that's just a resolution,
right? Yeah, we we can speak on that time, but ordinance um seventh, ordinance number seven, it's in reference to the trash and recycling cliffs. So that'll be on the 26th. So at this
point, uh is there any public comment on any agenda items? I see none. We'll go to mayor's report. Okay. Uh so I guess everybody knows by now tennis and pickle ball courts are open. For the past three or four years,
the two things I've heard from most of the residents was we the bowling alley and we need a pickle ball court. So we solved one problem. All right. So news and if you haven't been there, go visit. It's beautiful. Um, we did get that with
a partial with a grant, a recreation grant, and part part of it was with money that had to be spent uh was mandatory to be spent by the DCA when we sold our water treatment. Um, first grade uh was at city hall on
Wednesday and they had a really good time. They visit uh city hall and the police department. So, chief and I take care of that. We run them through and they go through all the departments. So, it was a fun day for the kids. It was kind of hot though. Um,
and I want to for city council. Um, I wanted to let you know that I have finished revising the personnel manual and I think the last time there was revisions was 2023. Yes. So, that's been revised and I did give it to Jerry to uh
review because it's now going to be Jerry's job. Yes. and I don't have to have a headache for like, you know, two weeks trying to do it. So, um, Jackie is going to email a copy out to city council. There's also a mayor's letter attached, as there
usually is, stating what the changes were and what anything that was removed was also. So, be looking for that in your email tomorrow because I'm hoping to um be coming before council vote on it the next meeting, the 26th. So, and
if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to uh ask. I also had an opportunity to speak with Stephanie from uh Triad. She was inquiring about what types of grants uh we we have three CDBG grants
open right now, which if I think the uh city hall's going to get started soon, right, Ryan? Yeah. Yeah. because we we wanted to apply. We discussed applying for a grant for the library to make it ADA accessible. I'm not quite sure what the
library looks like inside, but I I will call the librarian unless you have more information on that. Okay. Mayor, I don't think we should call the library. It's our building. We probably should Well, it's our building. It's our
building. The building that the library is in. getting an outdoor lift or weatherproof lift or some kind of a access to get in because it's Yeah. Well, we can talk about that, right? I mean, you I think it's hard. So, yeah, I
think keep it in house. It is. Yes. Whatever you want to do. I mean, but we that's about the only project that'll qualify because there has to be an ADA component. Okay. Unless someone can think of another city-owned property that No, no. I I think it's a good idea. I just said I don't think we need to call the
librarian yet. No, I was just going to ask her what the ADA situation was. I don't want to call her and discuss it with her. I mean, she works in the library. She would probably know what needs the needs. Exactly. Can I say something? I we just uh Jerry
and I just had an inspection over at the library and those steps are pretty steep and I I just wanted to mention that the Longport Historical Society has a second floor too and they installed one of those um chairs that go up the but it
takes up so much room. Those steps though are very wide and very steep. So well the possibility of elevator on the exterior might be the only way we we can get 400,000 that's so whatever we can do
that will cover it probably whatever we can do with that we'll do I know the front steps are not ADA compliant the I don't know what they have in the back I don't know what their bathrooms look like and that's the information yeah there's no way I mean the county if
you remember they installed the the railing up Prairie helpful. Yeah. Yeah, they were in the past. Not possible, but and then we also discussed um historic grant possibly for the uh log
cabin out at the lake, but it would have to be made a some sort of a meeting room or a for nonprofit or possibly a museum. But that I don't know if that's doable because we would definitely have to have
someone out there manning it and I don't believe we have the manpower to do that. And we also discussed as you know the congressional discretion grant we did not they did not give it to anybody this year. So, she suggested that possibly we
put the same grant in for the fis next fiscal year for the uh government and for the pumper truck for the fire department. It wouldn't be quite as expensive as the first grant because it's already pretty much written. It would just have to be a resubmission.
So, now that's that's what I talked to her about today. So, I think those were really good ideas. I don't know if you want to comment on this. Yeah. Um well this year's passed because we I told her not to do it because I didn't think they were giving any money. So the
next one I think is 26. Okay. So what what does everybody think about the congressional aid congressional discretion grant? Definitely. I would say go for it. Is this for an additional truck? Well we
have a fire we have a ladder truck that we're getting what next year? May or something and the pumper truck needs to be replaced. And we did apply for that last year and we didn't get it. You know, you know, not that your report, but uh Jerry sent me a uh advertisement
that went through all the administrators through the state and it was a pumper truck from Oh, yeah. Someville that's 208 fully loaded and they're selling it because their volunteer group has
diminished. Okay. And I talked to the chief and he is looking into I didn't know they have a fire administrator. I connected our chief with their fire administrator up in Somerville. Okay. I don't know anything past that or recently. Yeah. I don't know if we can make a deal with them,
but um Well, you know, trucks now are very expensive. We have a used truck that's in good shape like this one. Yeah. It matches our the kind of truck money for that to buy a used vehicle or does it have to No, it would have to be a new vehicle. Yeah, that's what I
thought. Which which is years like two, three, four years away all the time, right? Waiting for Yeah. Okay. Sorry. All right. So, whatever you guys decide on that, just let let me know so I can relate or let Jerry know. He have you met Stef Stephanie yet from Triad? No.
and I never worked with her in the past. Well, you can let me know what you decide to do if you hear anything more from the chief. Share the email with you. Mayor, especially for the log cabin. Okay. And I put this out in port. Um Atlanta County, if you go out to Stell Manor, we talked about this member
of the um built the property parks. Parks. Yeah. Whatever it was. Um Atlanta County, if you go out to Stell Manor, they have that like museum. Okay. If we could redo the log cabin and rent it to the county and then put a ranger there because the net keeps telling us that
Egg Harbor has all the hidden bars and all the hidden trails and if we could rent it to the county and then put an educational ranger in there that can do programs with our kids, right? And take and make that a functional place. That's what my son does in Pennsylvania. He's
an educational arranger and he creates curriculum and then homeschool kids and um private schools and parents, Boy Scouts, they come to his presentations and he teaches the kids about fishing and tracking and bird watching and he
teaches them how to shoot archery and kayak and do all those kind of things. and his is through the state, but if we could get something like that through the county and put them out there, that would be an awesome addition to what we have out there at the lake. Right. Well, the only problem is the rent component.
That's why we could not get it fixed. If you you could give it to the county or to the state and let them operate it, but you cannot rent it. If you have a rental uh attachment, then you won't get the grant. That's what she said. Okay. So I mean we could make it that we're doing
so we could fix it up and let them run it. Is it sure they're going to use it or is it a shared service or you know joint application? Steph Steph Steph would be able to answer that better than I would. But it sure sounds like a good thing to put on an application. You know, you know, it's educational and
everybody likes you when you use that a keyword in a grant. So yeah, wouldn't you have to reach out to the county to see if they would be interested? Yeah, we could. Let's let me I'll talk to Steph about it and then uh I'll see what she says if that if she thinks that would be a good idea. She was going to
go back to her group and discuss it. Try to come up with something creative. But I think that's a good idea. And I may be able to get you a copy of like some of the curriculums that Gwyn has used in the past just as samples that you could have her look at to see how how it works. Yep. Because we have to do
something. I mean that that's old. It's been a part of it, you know, with that with the state. Welcome. Yeah. Was it from Yes. through the state or through the county or something like that. Okay. So, such a a
couple dates. Uh Cedar Creek will be at the lake tomorrow for their annual Cedar Creek senior picnic. I believe they're come rolling in at 8:30 and they'll probably be out by 11:30. Chief's going to be flipping burgers out there. I'll try I'll try to get out there, but I can't make any promises, but I will. I
will try. Um fireworks are on July 19th. Of course, we have the yard yard sale scheduled uh August 2nd and along with the firehouse dinner on August 2nd. Um the grad abor community school
graduation is the 18th at 4 pm and Cedar Creek graduation is Thursday the 19th and I believe that starts at 6. And one last thing, um I will be next week we have a strategic uh planning meeting
scheduled at six o'clock and I'm hoping to to wrap that up and put it to bed because we have to put something in the mail next week. Are you coming back? No, I'm sorry. The next sorry the next meeting before the council meeting six o'clock, right, M? Yes. And so start thinking about um some of the things we
talked about possibly what our what you feel our mission is, okay? What our vision is and we did establish some values, but I think we have to hone them. We have to really tighten them up a bit because we had an awful lot of them. Um so mission statement, vision
statement, start thinking about those things. You can Google samples. Uh the police department has one. I'm not going to put Jeep on the spot, but the best the best police department in Atlanta County somewhere along that line. Um, so
and let's see. I think that's all I have. Thank you. Oh, I did want to say one thing that we do have a punch list going for the tennis courts. Um, Jerry met with Gary and Butie and they did identify a few things that have to be
fixed, especially when there's rain. So Jerry's following up on that with the um contractor that that did the project. So that's that'll get that'll get finished if anybody else sees anything there. And that's all I have. Contractor who want
to get paid in building. Hey, thank you. Good. I'm good. Okay. Uh Councilman Wright for parks and playgrounds. Uh yeah. Um, we met on Monday night about the pavilion over there at the Lincoln Park, about taking that gazebo down. Uh, the committee had
voted against it, about taking it down. Um, we did come up with some suggestions of that thing. Um, one, I'm not sure if we have those signs up for drinking and smoking and stuff. We do, but I asked um I asked Jerry or some that was a chief's
se uh suggestion, right? And but I did ask you to order signs. basically getting those hung. Um, basically turn the electric off to link the park. So they can't that's already done. Yeah. So they can't charge their phones and all that stuff and hang out there. Um,
basically replace the the roof that's already we have a and maybe if works are worth putting cameras out there. Um, but after talking after the meeting, I talked with Jerry when we had a public works meeting and um, by code we don't need a we don't even need a fence. I mean a rail over there. We could take
the rail down, just leave the cazebo. Take the rail down. They don't got nowhere to hang out and stand up there anyway. And the chief gets the credit for that idea. Yeah. So, take the rail down, fix the roof. So, that's what I think. So, rail's pretty much down.
Yeah, pretty much. It's almost halfway down that I would like to say another a thing if you don't mind. Yeah, go ahead. Um, we had the water fest on Saturday and it was very well attended. It was really nice. There's like 1 million
cigarette butts all over. So I would suggest that possibly you get some more of those stand cigarette not that they'll use them but literally it's the the ground is white from the cigarette butts. Isn't it no smoking in all our with those signs? It says
no drugs. We shouldn't entice. It's kind of being stupid. Well, does anybody want to volunteer to clean them up? That's fine. We I'll give you some grabbers. I have some in the office. We have more commercial way of cleaning them up. We're not gonna grab it. We'll get it.
Okay. And that also falls under. So is there you making that a motion that we fix what's there to those specs take now. Okay. Is there a second? Second.
Who who is first? Mason. So motion has been made and second. questions about the motion. So, we're gonna fix the roof and paint it and take the rails. I just think it's just part of the park and and you know, all you're doing is moving the problem. You take that down and then where they you know Well, it also I
would add you're going to have to spray the termites because there's a termite problem. Oh, yeah. There are some I don't have that license stuff. I'll get somebody to I can get Okay. All right. So, we're doing a resolution. Do we We did get a quote for Does that Yeah, we did get a quote. Did we get a quote
without the steel? No, it hasn't yet. Okay. So, we'll get a quote without the steel encased railing, right? Because that's what we're going to put up there. Um and uh fixing the roof. There's two roofs. There's a coupler roof and the
regular roof. There's some floorboards that need to be replaced. And then the stain, the green stain, redo the green stain on the on the decking. So, we'll get a quote for that and uh move that forward. And it'll be less to quote your Oh, yeah. Quite a bit. Yeah, quite a bit. A fraction
talk about closing the uh electrical panel. Yeah, there has been talk about it. More of a steel casing over the top of it. Right. Okay. Motion's been made. Seconded. All in favor? I hear. Okay. Roll call. Is that No. Is it
okay? Um Clark, yes. Doy. Yes. Galloway. Yes. Ice. Yes. Hessie. Yes. Kenir. Yes. Timbers. Yes. Right. Yes.
Anything else? No, that was it. Okay. Councilwoman Galloway for sustainability city and and I have self sitting in a hole. I'm lost. Sorry about that. Um there's a couple uh
resolutions on the agenda tonight. Uh one is for uh us to apply for a sustainable communities grant through Atlantic City Electric and Sustainable uh Jersey. Uh two grants uh one is 5,000 for forest management plan for the area
north of Moss Mill Road and the other one is a stewardship grant for to install a labyrinth at Peace Pilgrim Park and replace the steps to inner peace plaques. These grants are due at the end of the month and although we're applying for two awards, only one can be
awarded. So, I guess it would be up to their committee to decide which one they think is more valuable. Uh we could put a a preference on there that uh forestry grant is our first preference than the uh recreation and that's a harbor city sustainable. Yeah, it's on the it's
already on the agenda. Uh and then the um there's also on the agenda a memorandum of understanding with Cape Falani Soil Conservation District to do a heat island assessment which uh a young man named Tyler Savage has been
working on and uh it's uh it's a sustainable Jersey action, but it's really interesting to see what he sent so far. Uh that our largest heat island area is Philadelphia Avenue.
Um, so now that the drought has all but subsided, um, we're going to we're planting a tree planting project for the fall, we hope to plant about 200 trees. Uh, we'll be replacing one to one all the trees that are being removed currently. I think there's 116 scheduled
for removal. And uh, we'll be replacing also the tree grates on Philadelphia Avenue uh, where the male ginko trees are. Did you say you're replacing trees as well? Replacing the trees as well. Not in the same spot, but you know, because I had suggestions for some of
them. Yeah. Right there. Um and then uh we're the drought is over. The the governor um lifted the drought restrictions in most of the state except for Atlantic Cape Me County. So, we're still a little bit dry. Uh, but with the
rain that's, you know, forecast over the weekend and we should be okay. But, uh, although the drought is over, I am still interested in forwarding that um, water conservation ordinance that would have odd even watering during the summer
months um, whenever uh, they call a drought emergency. So, I'd like to have that discussed at the uh ordinance committee next time. Send it out. I have a copy. I could send it out of the full council if you want. Okay. There's a there's another one that came
also from the state. I have one that is recommended by the state and another one that was re that was passed in uh long court and it's very simple. It just says odd side street you water on Monday,
Wednesday and Friday and the other side is Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Nobody waters on Sunday. But that would only be put into effect if there was a drought. But 1976 with the gas crisis. Yeah. Like
you remember that you're not that old. You must have been three years old. A little older than that. We go to Disney during that. Um, we're also working to bring um an environmental expert and renowned author. His name is Doug Talamy. He's a
professor at the University of Delaware. We're going to be uh bringing him to Cedar Creek High School in September, sometime in September. Um, that should be that's a big deal. People will come from all over to hear him speak. And we've um we contacted the high school
and they're willing to give us the performing arts center at no cost. So, that's a big deal. And that'll be funded through the grant, the FE the federal uh tree grant. Um, oh, and you talked about the senior center work, the ADA compliance, but
when we did our inspection, we noted that the men's room bathroom floor needs to be replaced. That's right. I know it's in there, but Okay. But you you have vinyl.
Okay. You have vinyl flooring. Oh. In your estimate. Is there any chance it could be ceramic tile? Sure. SL. Yeah, we just had um Yeah, I think we had like a luxury house or something like that throughout the facility. So, just no
transitions, right? Or whatever. All right. And that's that's all I have here. Yeah. I just want to ask one with the grades with the tree grades on Philadelphia Avenue. We experience a lot of them getting stolen. So, they're going to be made out of composite materials, not not
metal. So, that's good. Good to know. You're gonna anchor them down? Yeah, they're lighter and they're better for the trees because they they're not putting weight on those top roots. Good to know. Yeah, but they're worthless on the on the market.
They cost us money, but they're worthless. That's it. Okay. Thank you, Council Councilwoman Hessie for safety code and Rotary. Rotary, I really don't have anything, but I just would like to say that uh we've been having our meetings
at the firehouse crossroads and now the end of St. Louis we're at now. Uh we do our best to patronize all the businesses in the towns and we have two meetings a month and one is held in a harbor city. So now we're at um the inner St. Louis. Anyway, that's all I have to say about
vertebrae. Uh the safety committee we had a meeting last night and um it we reviewed the progress since previous meeting in January. Uh most of the action items from January meeting have been successfully implemented. A few
outside standing items are still in progress and are being actively followed up. Additionally, the claims review will be discussed in more detail with our administrator. Um that's it for safety. code committee. Um we met two software companies on June
3 and um our current vendor and Edmmonds. Uh after hearing what they both had to offer, we decided to stay with our current vendor MC uh systems. Uh the system may not be as user friendly and is missing a few bells and
whistles, but it remains more costeffective option and meets the needs of our small town. Um there was a retraining meeting uh with MC Solutions yesterday. Jerry um had told me about it. Jerry, do you have anything um to
say about that? The retraining meeting. So we did the retraining meeting as an entire entire department. So I did it along with every employee in the building department and code department. Um and we were able to get our new code enforcement officer, a part-time code enforcement officer registered as well.
So he's already on board and using the the iPad already. So that's great. Thank you. Yeah. And he was very generous with his time. Um his Mike Mike is very generous with his time. So we're able to get everyone retrained and then the new
employees myself and Davido trained as well. So he came in, he was in. He was in. Oh, that's good. Yeah. And and the iPads, you think there shouldn't be a problem with them using them in the field now? No, they won't there won't be a problem unless the employee doesn't want to use them, which I'll take care
of. Okay. Thank you. Yep. Um uh the bowling alley property um is being addressed basically in three parts. The inside, the outside, and the pine lands, which is the rear property. Um Jerry, do you have any updates that
you can share uh regarding the Pine Lands? If you can if you can't share it, then we just communicated with the owner that u we wouldn't be um necessarily entertaining any new permits until the Pineelands issue was resolved. So that was something that we needed to do
probably a little while ago, but because of my background with the Pineelands, I was able to communicate that to the individual that they have to take care of that before anything else gets done. Thank you, Jerry. Appreciate that. Chris, do you have anything to add about the outside?
Uh, no. We were in court um probably three weeks ago or so. I think I updated. Was that about the inside or outside? Uh that was the outside. It was the outside. Okay. Yeah. So I think that was the last uh the last update I know. Uh
and at that time the court gave um uh gave the property owner 60 days to clean up the outside. And if it wasn't done in 60 days, I'd send the letter um notifying him that he had a very limited time at that period to clean it up or else the city would come in and do it at
his expense. And has a 60 days elapsed? No, no, no. We probably still sometime July. July 12th. July 12th. It's on my calendar. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, J. And thank you, Chris. Is there anything else you add in? There's another court
case coming up for the inside. That he was Yeah, he was sent for the inside. Um, not sure where that stands right now. I can check with code. Somebody told me a date in July for that. I ded there is a there is an
appeal filed with the uh construction board. So we went we went to the so Rich Saunders the building inspector and I went to the construction board of appeals. Mr. Senna did not show up. Um we explained what we're dealing with and so the construction board of appeals has
um set up a hearing for the 23rd of June of which Rich and I will attend as well and we'll see if Mr. Senna shows up. But as far as the informal indication from the construction board of appeal is that he doesn't really have any leg to stand on. So that we've been doing everything
correctly and they understand our dilemma. Going to be a process. Yeah, it's going to be a process. And I know that Steve Buckoff was there probably over a month ago. Yeah. And he wrote a bunch of things up that really should have been addressed. I believe the 30 days have passed. They have. and they
weren't addressed and they're being none of them are being they're being cited daily. We're doing everything we can. Thank you. Thank you. You know, hopefully a long way some point. Yeah, we we knew it wasn't going to happen like that, but as
long as the process is is rolling, that's that's all we can ask for. Thanks. Um and lastly, but certainly not least, a reminder of the A Harbor City Shines, our ongoing citywide beautifification campaign. We encourage all property owners to take a moment to
evaluate their properties and please check for trash and debris, damaged or non-compliant fences, inoperable or unregistered vehicles, missing or obscured house numbers. That's so important. House numbers to me. You're you're jeopardizing
yourself. You're jeopardizing our our police, our fire, you know, our firemen coming there if they have to waste time and the people that live in the property. if you don't have a house number. Um, also any overgrown vegetation or poorly maintained
landscapes. Uh, remember these issues can negatively impact the health, safety, and property values and overall impression of our community. Let's help a harbor city shine and together we can make a difference. Uh, and the last
thing I want to say, again, you may be getting tired of hearing me say it, but it bears repeating. The ACUA does not pick up electronics, including TVs. Electronics must be taken to public works from Monday through Friday, 8 to
3. If you are unable to get there during those hours, 4H offers electronic recycling on the third Saturday of most months from 9 to 12 at the fairgrounds on Route 50. That's all I have to say.
Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Timber's ordinance. Nothing new to report. Councilwoman Clark for school board. Um just a quick reminder as the mayor noted um in her report, the school year
ends next week. So, just a reminder to the public to um please slow down while try while traveling through the residents as many of our um streets are 25 miles per hour and our kids are going to be out riding their bikes, walking, you know, to the park, hopefully to the
pickle ball uh courts and learn um and you know, just please be mindful of our kids that are out um out in the streets. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Dobby. Yes. Um the public works committee uh
met last week. U we had a briefing uh from Jerry on the immediate needs of staffing in the public works department with uh somebody out on extended leave plus the resignation earlier in the year
uh on the on the uh temper. So, we are the committee is recommending on tonight's agenda the hiring of one full-time laborer step one in the um team's under the team's contract and one part-time
temporary labor who will work at least through the summer on a part-time basis during the week. Uh the committee uh Steve, Mason, Jerry, and myself all met and the committee uh was in concurrence
and recommends that approval of the those two hires. I'll defer to Jerry in his um administrator SL public works director report to go into other details about the public works operations this
last couple weeks. That's it. All [Music] right, Mr. Dod, you want to make a a motion for those two hires? Actually, three, right?
There's also a third one. uh code, correct? Yes. So, I I'll make that motion. I thought it was already on the agenda. Yes, I did on the ID. Okay.
Do you have a motion for Mr. Dobby? Is there a second? Second. Motion's been made. Seconded. Yes. I Yes. You forgot to answer questions. Okay, two questions. Um, when we hired
Jerry, no offense to Jerry, we were told that we were not replacing the full-time employee that um his salary and the salary of the public works supervisor were going to be combined to go towards Jerry's salary. Now, within six months
of that, we're hiring a full-time worker. When did that change? Can you respond to that, Mr. It it did not change. We said we had no intention of hiring a full-time uh
public works director. Um I was also told we were not replacing when Jerry when Jerry was hired as a part-time public works director. Um it wasn't for another month or so
before the employee resigned. So, at the point of time that we hired Jerry, uh, that was not part of the picture at all. I I beg I beg to differ, Councilman Joy, when M. When Councilman Keenir called the three of us, Council
Councilwoman Clark, myself, and Councilman Dash, it was told to us that the salary of the full-time employee and the salary of the public works director were going to be combined together to go towards Jerry's salary.
Yes. I'm telling you what we were told. You can shake. That was true. That's what we were told. I'm not making it up. That's what we were told. Yeah, but it's not the full the full-time person that's being replaced is the person that resigned and that was
a nephew of someone that worked there. Just so you know, who it was, right? That that what they're talking about. That has nothing to do with the cost of eggs. What who it was? What we're talking about is we were told that we it wasn't going to happen and that that money was going towards Jerry's salary. So my question is where is the money
coming from basically to cover this new full-time if that money was going towards Jerry's salary because this new person is being hired I'm assuming at step one or whatever it is to cover his salary. So where is that money coming from? There's two two ways for covering
the salary. One is um there is a gentleman from public works who's out for extended period of time that has happened recently. So he's going to be out at least 20 weeks. Was that what we held in the neighborhood? Uh, and also
uh on the agenda for tonight is a joint services agreement with Hamilton to take uh some of Jerry's time, but we were also told at that when we talked about day that that was that was part of it that it would have made it better for
us. We were saving money already be with that without Jerry going to Hamilton. So, this is going to cover that. Plus, we have some guys that are pretty close to retirement and we're down to a skeleton crew right now. There's three guys and uh by bringing in the part-time
is going to work two days a week. Correct, Jerry? Correct. And his most of his job is going to be to cut lawns and the other guy will be in training in uh working with us to keep this the staff going. uh we'll have to deal with that if the other guy does come back. But as
from what I hear is his uh injuries are pretty severe. But I I will say too the current employees without mentioning some have injuries that are at doctors a couple times a week out of work. So they are short. They're not working
saying we don't need the help but to understand because we were told that that money where that money was going to and now all of a sudden we're hiring somebody. So I wanted to know so where that money is coming from. Can you confirm what I just said? Sorry. Where the money coming from? It's well
workman's comp covers the one the work not workman's comp disability will cover for the employee that and the joint service with the joint service will cover the employees that are injured that are at doctors. Yeah, that's what
so we also lose an employee once or twice a week. Yeah. But that still continues to be workman's comp and we're impacted negatively by that. Yeah. And there without getting into personalities that we um we don't like time for that.
I just I know but without getting into personalities we have other one another person who's um working not 100%. Right. I I understand the whole makeup of public works. I did I
was a public works chair for how many years? I get all that. My question was where was the finances coming from to cover the full-time employee? Not who's not who's those from disability, not none of that. It was where was the finances coming from because we were
told at the beginning that they were going and if this one person wouldn't have gone out for an extended period, we probably wouldn't be doing this. So, I I think to keep the department operating sufficiently, we need this person. Thank you. I appreciate the explanation. Um,
now now I'm confused because uh the part-timer is the one that's supposed to be filling in for the one that we're at, not the full time. He's going to work two days a week. He's filling in out for the 20 weeks. The guy that's out is full time. Usually hire two seasonal, right? We usually do
hire seasonal to cut lawns. So, that's usually something that happens. And I I got that when I when I wasn't questioning, but I was questioning where the new full-time It's a fair question and you're right what you said about what I told you in the beginning and uh
but things have changed because of the fight. I appreciate Thank you. Anything else, Mr. Dovy? No. We have a first and a second. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. All in favor of roll.
Uh, yes. Doy. Yes. Galloway. Yes. Heist. Yes. Essie. Yes. Yes. Timbers. Yes. Right. Yes. Okay. Now, Mr. Dobby, anything else? No. None at this time.
Thank you. Donna, did you have anything? Like I said, I appreciate the explanation. All right. Okay. I have a report from finance for the tax office and u there's a lot of entries here but I'll just give you the
bottom line. Uh the the deposits for the current month were 2,20,5093 and year to date we've taken in uh on deposits of $5,314,676.3. Uh the majority of that is through taxes. Uh there's um interest that we we
collect on on money we have. Um, municipal lean redemption is 35,000 of that. Uh, link badges are 16,000 of that. Uh, they're the big thing, pilot payments, which I think are done now.
There's no pilot programs that are active anymore, but uh up to the year to date, we've taken in6 $6,800, but a total of 5,314,000. There might be one one or two because I remember having to deal with that
because they had to wait to apply till December when they bought out. Also for u redevelopment, we had a meeting recently uh to discuss the Acarbon North and our administrator, our engineer, and our
attorney are working on uh updating our redevelopment plan for the uh Acarbon North, which was adopted back in 2009. And we have interested uh parties, interested developers that are uh
looking to work with us in a Carbon North and we are working also on putting out a RFQ request for qualifications for these developers. So, we have options and we think once the redevelopment plan is
updated, it would even generate more interest in the redeveloper community. And uh we have a nice piece of ground up there. There's 250 lots that are potentially uh open for building single family homes or town homes or whatever.
and it would be a real good shot in the arm and enhance that property around the high school um in the Acora North area. It was it was going well when we had Mr. Habber back in 2010 11 and then he
passed away and since then it's kind of floundered. So with uh our professionals help and us working to revive this project and seeing that developers are interested, we want to move forward with
it and and get it get it moving so we can see progress. In Carver City's population has been stagnant at 4,300 4,400 people since I can remember and before I was born probably. And uh I
would think that we could see this project through uh to the end. We could we could have a community over 5,000. And somewhere I read that a 5,000 population is put you in a different
category. It will help stabilize taxes, raise our gradable base, uh which shares the taxes. we don't need new uh services or we have all the services our schools we're we're checking with them to see what kind of impact uh the development
of 250 homes would have on that but we don't see that it's going to be a major uh issue I already talked to Mr. Parker about that. You were with me. Yes. And he didn't feel it was a uh going to be an issue because they're not all coming in and going to high school. They're
going to be Yeah. They're not all spread out here anyway. So, I think it would be a positive thing for us in the city and uh we'd like to see it happen. And he did also say he would cut the um program the uh what's it called? What where they go they have a choice to go. Oh, the Oh,
the uh the magnet. The magnet. He wouldn't he would not take kids from the magnet. Mhm. before they, you know, if it would help first. Yeah. Good. How about our local schools? Our smaller schools. We did get a study from them.
Uh the BA sent us a a study and it didn't seem like it was in the elementary was little. When was the study done? Do you know? I don't know. I have it on my desktop. I'll send it to you if you'd like. I know when we built the middle school,
the community school, it was built for increased population and we have not increased our so and we moved fourth grade over there. Remember we moved fourth grade. So maybe it'll come to the point where it's as good they may have to move. Well, the population is definitely picking up there because the
classes are getting fuller and I'm getting more kids. So definitely picking up. I know. But then again, you know, school taxes go up, so does my property set. Well, hopefully not. Hopefully we have enough ratable base to grow, which
that's the other ratable is what we need. Well, that's what I was going to say. Once we have rooftops, and that's what everybody tells us in the redevelopment community, you can't lure the businesses into town unless you have the people that are going to frequent
them. One of one of the reasons we're able to revitalize Hamilton is because we had the population. If you don't have the population, you're not going to get that type of renaissance. We have some really nice businesses in town that people really like and I think we could
get more of them in if we have I agree. And Joe, you and I talked about this. A lot of people are like, well, why don't we get a shop? Why don't we get an act? Those place of businesses won't even look at a town that has under a certain amount of roof. That's true. They don't care that South Harbor's going to shop
here. They don't care that Mollica's going to shop here or Sweetwater or Cologne. They want to know how many rooftops are in the city of Egg Harbor City. If we don't have enough rooftops, they take their business and they go someplace else. It doesn't matter who's
going to come and frequent that store. Matters how many rooftops we have within our city limits. That's a big thing. Good. Thank you. All right, that's all I had. Uh, Chief, uh, as you're coming up, one question is she was talking about,
uh, Lisa the mayor was talking about the not smoking in a park. What kind of enforcement can we do from a police standpoint or something like that? Well, I think we can go out there and enforce that, but we need to I would need from the mayor a a prioritized list of what
it is that needs to happen. Um, you know, we are a budgeted for 17 and you know, we're talking about adding 200 or however many more homes, three people from home, that's 750 more people. So, with 17 people, including me, we talk
about being out of the schools, being out of the lake, patrolling, and doing traffic enforcement. So, we can be out of the park, but we need to say, okay, well, what where something's got to give. Something's got to give in terms of smoking. um we'd actually have to physically be out there. It's very
difficult to see from a distance if somebody is is smoking or if they're vaping or anything like that. And what drinking at what point in time has become harassment if we go in there and they're vaping because I don't know if it's the anti vaping. It's the same thing. Yeah, it's in the ordinance. It's in the um so I mean but we can
definitely do enforcement on it and you know we can look at the littering. We can you know look at all of that. Um but you know it's one of those things we really prioritize what it is that you know we feel is most important to have done um because we are only 17 people
and we're not even 17 right now. Um so we're only a certain amount of people and you know can only be pulled in certain direction but absolutely that's something we can address and signs and all that will probably help right cameras might help. Well, yeah, that's
one thing that um the administrator and I had spoken about. You know, cameras um could be beneficial in terms of being a deterrent and also for us to be able to uh see remotely what is going on. Um so,
I mean, even if it's not anything that I know we had talked about with the MPP stuff, but that's right outside of the MP area. Um we tried to get cameras there, but they wouldn't do it. So, uh, so you know, if there's is any extra
money in any budget, it's not mine. Um, um, or anything like that, maybe later. Um, but, you know, that's something that maybe we should explore. Um, and maybe there's grants out there. Yeah. So, you know, so, you know, I'm not necessarily
familiar with any grants for that. Jerry may have more insight into that and we can talk about that and look at that along there. Um but yeah, I think the cameras could be very helpful. um more signage so that way there's no question about oh well I didn't know so you know um so yeah I mean these are absolutely
issues that we can address and again we know based on what is prioritization of what it is that police department directions the mayor would like to put and and chief we we just had a conversation about any signage that we put up we should put the ordinance the code the code is there because that's their first warning the first warning is
the sign the second would be the actual violation if based on the discretion of the officer So we're basically telling them this is our ordinance and this is your one. Yeah. And we did have a good conversation about um some of the signs in the city have like what the resolution was. I believe it is to be
talked about you know actually putting the code. So for some things specifically for the pickle ball court talked about I was like our cat all is 226. So, you know, put that on there so that way, you know, when the officer sees, okay, well, whatever they're doing and they're not supposed to, 2026 is what we're supposed to write. And if
anybody goes on to Eco 360, they can just look up 2026 and see exactly what it is that we're referencing as opposed to trying to find resolution, right? Um, it what the the you can't find the ordinance for smoking or you can Oh, no. I'm I'm sure I can in eco because we did
that years ago with the smokefree parks. Every park is the same. Yeah. So I mean if we have on on the side the actual code not the ordinance number but ordinance it's hard to find an ordinance in our archives and all that. So the numbers is on them. Yeah. Has to be the
code. So it's just a sign that says no smoking, no dogs, no no. We have to we have to add the code. We have to add code. At least that's how they are. Signs that have the code are out at the lake. I think it's the wildlife one.
We used to actually have them out there because people would question our pricing. They would say bad things that we were making up prices because of certain reasons. But so I did put them out there, but now we got all new signs last year with the price increases. So I
didn't put the ordinance on those signs. The code section used to have them. The code section with all the fees. The code section with all the fees that can be added. I can add this. I'm not going to make new signs just because it's No, we'll just put it we'll just add it on there. Yeah, we could. Well, that's that's a neutral or good for the cigarettes. But but that was a standard
that was a standard thing we did when we put out new signs. We'd always put the the ordinance I mean the um the code the code number because it was it was an easier way to communicate. Look, we're telling you what it is. Just you can look anybody can look it up on their phone. It was the simplest thing.
Okay. Oh, are you asking question? Because I have a question regarding the street signs. You know how those little signs that you have up that are digital when people go by on Burger Street? Um it's still there. I didn't know what if
that's supposed to be for a deterrent or or what. Yeah, we've received calls from Michael was uh well, I'm not going to mention the resident's name. Yeah. But you know, we got calls. Oh, we're speeding around there and everything. So, we put that out there. I believe that specifically because of morning new
schooltime drivers that were coming down uh Burger and then turning on to either San Francisco or Havana. Um so that's why we had that out there. Um and yeah, I just saw it there a long time. I was just wondering. So that makes sense. Um throughout the school year, yeah, that's
what we get complaints about. So that's where Okay, thank you. and the public guys did a great job of uh reving around there because you can see since we're talking about codes, we're just getting ready to do rules for
the um pickle ball court and the tennis court. Okay. So, that should be in the in the recreation ordinance added to it. Like we have a whole host of rules for the lake that are on that ordinance so that
the chief can do something about it if they are breaking the law. Correct. If they're noting we address that mayor with the catch the catch off 206 we can say it's an unlawful act and you know based on so skateboarding out there
anything like that the 2026 will go ahead and address that. I mean it'll be good as a reference for the for the officers to say okay well is this something that they should or can or cannot do but 2026 be our catch all told me the 2026 226 is unlawful acts that's
the one that goes has any uh for example a lot of residents look up a noise ordinance that's not the noise ordinance that res should be looking says that if there's um nuisance noises it doesn't matter what time of day you can call us and you can issue a complaint we can get
them warnings. Um the releasing of balloons, the uh loud exhaust, uh I for there's like a through all that. So So that's that's kind of the catch line for any kind of nuisance complaint. So it's called unlawful acts and it's in our
decode 360 202-6. So um and residents can look that up and see exactly what that is. And then yes should times be included in that or no not the time for that because it is different than the other parts. Those
are just rules. Okay. Rules can be separate from what the chief of the chief and the officers will be with my experience for 17 years. You have to have it. No, I know it's a a little bit of a different you have to have it in the ordinance or else you're
you're doomed. But this here, try to standardize everything around the rest of the city because the lake is very specific, especially for that time frame. It's easier to just be able to use one code for the things that because it came from the chief. The chief recommended it. It was the It was the
best idea. It was the best idea. Thanks, I'll give you prop. I'll give you props when you deserve it. No problem. Are you guys ready for some numbers? Yes. Jody's going to give me a hard time
because my report so long. So, we're just going through some numbers. From May 22nd through today, we've had three burglaries, three reports fraud, one stolen motor vehicle, nine thefts. We've had nine motor vehicle accidents, seven pedestrian stops, 48 traffic stops for a total of
49 summones issued, three arrests. Um in that time period 12 business alarms, two residential alarms, 86 crime prevention activities, nine domestics, 33 EMS incidents, four fire launch ID activations, 23 saw calls, 393
checks, um and the public service. As the mayor mentioned, we did have the first graders come through. Um they uh sorry guys, I meant Jackie, I know you guys try to make it exciting, but they love the police cars. They got I got so jealous when I started hearing it from
my dogs. I was jealous because they weren't excited. In fact, I've beat me and I'm a great guy. Um but um so yeah, so you know they score and you talk about how our jail cells and the police, they're kind of like I'm out
for uh uh for adults. Um you know that's when you get kids saying my dad's in jail. I'm like you don't follow the police. I know. So, um so so so yeah, so we did that. Um upcoming stuff, we did go over to field
day for the sprat school, which was a lot of fun for the kids. Um upcoming graduations, like the mayor mentioned, we do have the community school graduation next week on Wednesday and s um 2025 on on Thursday. I would like to
again say with the summer months coming up and kids not being in school again, please, please, please be cognizant that they may not necessarily follow all of the traffic rules and regulations guarding out the streets, riding bikes the opposite ways. Um, we have addressed
some issues with some kids and we will continue to do so throughout the summer as we're all patrol uh encouraging wearing of helmets and following uh following the rules of the roads and being good citizens. One of the things that we do with that is uh Wawwa has been kind enough as they are each summer
I request coupons for free drinks or free pencils and when we see kids doing the right thing we'll stop them and give them those so they then have the opportunity. So, it's positive interactions with police and the kids and hopefully encouraging them to tell their friends to do the right things. You'll get a lot.
I I wear a helmet when I You see me. I like the presents. But, um, but yeah, that's that's what we've got going on right now. Um, we're coming into our busy months. the last few days of hot weather, we have
been running running. Um, so yeah, uh, that's where we're at. Any other questions for me? Jod's got the timer. You might lose your launch. All right, moving on. Is it Is it clip clip?
I'm sorry. No report. No report. No report. See, I knew you say Y. Uh, city clerk. Nothing. No report. Uh, city administrator. Thank you. Uh, to update uh a couple of interested council
members on the uh Crusaders building, which is the the Lloyd Windberg memorial. Guess memorial they passed. um roll down gates, new indoor outdoor lighting, a new security door downstairs, new ceiling and paint
for the second floor are all underway. We have contractors, DPW employees and um vendors uh getting ready to do that within the next two weeks. So, it'll be a busy place where we try to rehab. It's a great little building, but in rough
shape, real rough shape. So, we'll be able to take care of that. DPW. I want to thank the council for the new staff. I want to welcome David Martinez, Joseph Macio, and Riley Walcott uh to the team. Um DPW has completed all the mandatory
training that was required and we had all of the uh equipment that was not inspected last year inspected this year and they all passed. So, we're in good shape there. And if you haven't noticed, the mural was taken down. I want to thank Dario for helping us, but our
staff was there to assist them. So, um, that has been moved to an undisclosed location at DPW. It's in good shape. It's in good shape. It's in good shape. And we put it somewhere where there's no activity for
right now. So, it's secure. Uh next week, staff and I at DPW will be working on the uh pavement assessment, uh looking at all the signs, seeing which signs are completely faded, uh trying to work on on that. And I had a nice conversation with our CFO about a small
budget amount, try to get these signs replaced, updated, including our street signs. So, we'll create a process. Once I have that plan, I'll share it with the public works committee. Um we did complete electrical upgrades in the
senior center mostly mostly hazardous issues that um we needed to address. Uh I think I I was out there maybe even before I became full-time. Uh so that's all been completed and yesterday we offloaded about a third of a tractor trailer full
of fitness court equipment. um which is big, bulky, heavy, and uh it's a lot of equipment for that location. So, it's going to be a great addition to that park. Um as far as our tree, as the city arborist, we're taking
down 8 to 12 trees per week. And as um Councilwoman uh Galloway mentioned, I am just polishing off and finishing up the tree planting bid for us to go out as soon as possible. Uh 200 trees. So we
have right now on our inventory assessment, we have a thousand locations that could accept new. So that was done. Some of them on New Orleans Avenue. Why New Orleans special? I don't know why. Uh, and so we'll make sure, uh,
what I'd like to do is maybe put something on the website to ask for, uh, community's input if they want a tree. Maybe start with that and see how we do with that and then go from there. Um, and focus on what Nette was saying with the heat islands because that's
important as well. Um, and then code. So, I've been very active with code. Uh, DPW and code are almost uh, one department because we work so well together. Uh we're cleaning up properties, we're boarding up properties, and we're responding to issues and concerns. Some that come from
police, some that come from from other residents as quickly as possible. Um so that staff is uh really changing the way they do things and and I'm pretty proud of that in a short period of time. That's good. That's it. Hey, I got a
question real quick. I was at the field last night, but I didn't pay any mind to it. Did that tree come down? Did we take Did they finally come down? That tree was scary. Yeah. Which one? It's on. It was on Cincinnati. Was on this. It's like right at the bike path
there. No, it's on the Buffalo. It's on Buffalo. Buffalo. Right right near where the cross across the street from where the crossing guard stands. Yeah. The big white on. Yeah. It's right by the bike path. Gone. It it
Thursday or Friday. It's gone. Is it where the picnic tables are? Yes. Close. Yes. Sunny down there. It's not sunny. There's still water anywhere without the It was in bad shape. It was in bad shape and it wasn't on the assessment because it was in the parks. We didn't really
tell them to start doing the parks. I just wanted to clarify that sounds like we're just taking down trees indiscriminately, but we're not. These trees were all identified as being at risk, high-risisk trees. The stone
dead were already dead. branches fall left and right. So, I basically said if it was like real sunny in that area, maybe we should make it a point to replant something there. Oh, no. No, the trees that take care of that trees. Yeah. No, it's not as
question on the signs. Are we looking to do the entry signs into town? I don't have that. I was more focused on the street signs because we have missing street signs. We have seven different street signs. So, I wanted to try to get to uniform then. We were
thinking, yeah, doing similar type signs all over town. Similar type signs all over town, which I'll talk to the public works committee. But also, we have faded stop signs, faded uh uh um directional signs. Those things have to be upgraded because you can't see them at night if if if they're if they don't have the uh
the reflectivity. That shows up on the report there. It does show up on his report. Yeah, the Ryan report. I don't know how to say valiytics. Violytics. I don't know how to say it. So I just call it the Ryan report. So it's working really well that Ryan report. So I just shared it with the public works. So they
were playing with it. Every stop sign in town. You can zoom in pictures. Yeah. We give you access to it. Great. It's awesome. Thank you. Okay. City attorney. Uh no updates. No report.
Um, engineering. Yeah, I got a lot of it. We'll be quick. I don't see just quick update. I don't see a paper. Yeah, I didn't print. I have it in front of me. I'll email it to you after meeting. All right. Um, okay. Archway Green moving right along. They're doing well. Um, Weissprecker Demo, we're supposed to
have meeting today at 10 a little miscommunication with contractors. So, we're going to meet with them on Monday um to walk the site and go over everything and then coordinate. I actually ran into Dave Maxwell today. So, uh, I told him we would let him know when we're going to be on site so we can walk it with him as well and and talk
about the timing and make sure we're not getting shy. Um, Buffalo Avenue, we're just waiting for to get approved so we go out to bid. Um, the Lakey Campground uh, ADA improvements. We finally got a letter back from Pinelands. Um, so it
wasn't all flowing review. Um, but it was mostly mostly about um, a violation that occurred on the other side of the lake. Um, so I think we can work through that, but some of the other comments were just ambiguous. So, um, we really needed to schedule a meeting with them to go over this, um, and some of the
stuff at Key and some other things. So, what is this regarding I'm sorry, ADA improvements out of the Lake County. Oh, okay. Thanks. It's the parking lot across from um yeah, we try to put some ADA parking stalls and like the roll out beach ADA type mats so that there'll be
ADA access um around the south side of southeast side of the lake um and to the restroom and to the concession stand and all that stuff. Um so there's some things that we're going to need to work through. Essentially we need to meet with them and say like look we're trying to provide ad access to the lake. Are you going to let us or not? That's
that's the level of it. So, uh, we'll see how that gets. Is there a different kind of, um, I don't know, whatever that is that you put on the ground that you roll out. Yeah. So, that's there's there's local manufacturers for that and they had questions about like the permeability rate and things like that. And I was trying to explain like these
are HMATs. They don't have permeability testing. Like I can bring you a sample and we can pour buckets of water immediately. So, um, okay something. Yeah. Yeah. We roll them everywhere. But, yeah, they're perfect. Sure. So, I don't have pelands at the beach. Yeah,
buy them. Yeah, rest of the park. Anyway, um so yeah, I have some sample materials we can bring up there and demonstrate, look, this is what we're trying to do. We're not going to disturb the that bowl. We're just going to lay this on top of it and you know, we selected areas that are no more than 2% cross slopes, so everything will be
compliant. Um so, we'll see how it goes, but it's it's going to require anything. Clearly, did you get what we're doing? You're surprised then? Not at all. I'm I'm frankly I'm surprised it took six months to get a response. That's a first. That is. Yeah. Um so that that is
the longest they have ever taken to get back on a single issue. Um I'd like to be on that meeting. Yeah. That's that's going to have to be front and center on our meeting to say like look we're trying to provide amenities and make you know keep environmental considerations at the top of our list here. But you
know one of the comments is essentially like you can't add any impervious cover within 300 feet of the lake. Okay. So, where are the people who have a wheelchair supposed to park? I need to make them park, you know, 300, 400 feet away, and then how are they supposed to get there and provide more of a path to
get there? So, yeah, like I said, it's issues or what kind of grants is that? Uh, it's DCA, small cities funding. Small cities. Yeah. So, it's ADA access to community facilities. That's the funding that we got for city hall, which is actually linked to my list. Um,
that's the funding that we just got for the seniors. So well yeah I think we have a very strong argument to make about public access ADA access these are effectively a linear development because
it's there's no other way to provide uh access to the lake for people with disabilities except to provide a path that's ADA compliant that goes within 300 feet of lake right I don't and I don't think I don't think a state agency can restrict and refrigerate federal
either, right? Because you have ADA to which is federal law. State agency can't tell you that if you're required to do it under federal law, state agency can't say no. Right? So, so if we're providing ADA access and providing as much environmental consideration as is feasible, what else are we supposed to
do? So, but again, all arguments to to have immediate first and DCA approved the funding, right? Correct. Yeah. Exact. So, I think we have very strong cases to make, but they're clearly not being taken from us. So, just got Uh, Nor Avenue subdivision. Um, we got
noticed that was approved a while ago, but I still don't have the resolution. So, I'm trying to track a copy of that. Um, once that's done, we'll be able to set property corners, file, subdivision, and presumably auction that the city would like to lots. Um, the Iback Stormwater project. Um, I know we haven't talked about that in a little
bit. Which one? The Ivank stormwater. That was the the $3 million in principal forgiveness that the city was eligible for. um they kind of backfured us and with only 25 funding and and made it impossible for us to continue to get FY2025 funds. So now we're pursuing FY206 funds. We're trying to set up
bonding. Um it's technically you have to borrow it and then close on the loan and then they forgive it. It's kind of a weird configuration, but we're working with your bond council now to work through that process and get that all set up. Um that's been like that's
always been my point. Yeah. That process always been Yeah. Yeah, but the principal forgiveness thing was kind of new. But rather than like give a grant, they just you take the same loan you always did and now they forgive if they feel right. Well, yes, you can you can get it locked in as long as you do. That's the project we're starting on
Arab, right? So, it was mostly Beethoven, but there was a a two or three block stretch on Argo as well. Yeah, it's it's replacing a bunch of um old storm drains. You still have some of the city style inlets which are only like in here in Philadelphia um that are just a giant mouth opening in the curb
which is not compliant. So uh it's replacing a bunch of them a bunch of um storm pipes which we even have sink holes issues with. That's all stuff that was installed in the 20s and 30s. So yeah, it's and there's hardly ever funding opportunities for stuff like that. So it's I be a big big boost for
the city. um key recruitments. I touched on that. Really, we just need to hinge on meeting the compliance of what they're going to let us do and how far they're going to make us go to cure prior violations. Um tennis pickball courts that seems to be going well. I actually talked to somebody today just randomly coincidentally and we're talking about they've been over there
and their courts have been full. Um you know their observations said I never saw anyone playing tennis but the pickle balls are like full time mostly Egg Harbor people or people from Lynwood. This was someone that lived in Eggar City that I was talking to. It wasn't me because I was out there. It wasn't, but
you probably know who it is. Um, the Brownfield redevelopment areas. We had that kickoff meeting. We're working right now on a proposal for the HDSR, HDSRF investigation, uh, work. Um, we expect that we're going to move forward pretty much immediately out of the
industrial park. There might be slight delays on the gateway site because we're going to have to get site access because we're privately owned. Um, but we're working through that. She should have apples for that from us on that shortly. Um the master plan re-exam we shared a draft of that report with the
administrator. We're working through finally picking that back up u so we can advance that. Uh you guys touched on the the redevelopment plan report extending that and making some some updates. Um and then the last thing I think I have u the last two things would be state aid
application for FY26 micro funds. Um I think we're for this meeting we have on municip because we are definitely doing that. Um we're also suggesting that we apply for safe streets transit and um we will all of the a lot of the
recommendations that are in their city school travel plan which we just got a couple months ago are within a half mile of a bus stop or train stop. So even though they're identified on school travel plan and and more for school than for the transit uh network, they're eligible for safe streets to transit um
and they've been given a lot a lot of safe streets to transit money. So we're going to we're recommending the city to apply for that funding, but we can do that resolution at the next level. Um so that's that's not critical for this one. Uh the last thing is the proposal for um the design of the FY2025
municipal a funds. We applied for dies street from Braymond to Baltimore um and camp street from Braymond to approximately Antworp. Uh but we only got less than half the money asked for. So we're recommending we reduce the scope to just do DC street from Baltimore. Uh and we apply for this year
for that 26 money for camp street towards about um so that's the two things on our agenda and yeah unless any questions. Yeah, I was disappointed to see that that um we have to split that grant into
two years because Burger Street is a mess. Yeah. No, Burger Street from like St. Louis to Philadelphia Avenue. I mean, the road is just chewed up and I see the guys were out there. They must have put some asphalt down in certain
areas, but it's bad. And I don't think that can wait for three years. We could apply this year for both sections with a section of camp from Braymond in to enter and work and for that section of birth. I mean uh we
probably as much as we but it'll give us the opportunity. Well, yeah. I mean we can pick them. Well, I guess it looks like I mean I'm looking at the violytics right now. Looks like the worst section of burger
was from I know exactly to Cincinnati. Cincinnati. Yeah. That bumped up the worst on the viol. Exactly. And that's what this program 300 foot stretch that program that we were talking about before that we just looked at and it's got all that
information in. Yeah. and our the DPW, not to take away from Councilman Modi, but the plan is to put a road program together, not just do a couple streets a year, but we need a we need a program. Yeah. Where the worst ones and we're
going to have to spend some money. So So do you just enter into the program like streets or something like that? The worst streets. How how do you find out? Oh, the software. So you actually drive it. Um, it's really just an iPhone man dashboard. I mean, looking at it now,
I'm sorry. So, it it's colorcoded. It literally green is good and red and actually gray is the worst. That's why I could tell immediately I could see it and I just zoomed right in. This is the worst block of Burger Street because that's what the ratings are. Okay. So, I knew immediately and like this is the stretch of Camp Street we've been
talking about and it's like a deep shade of red. So, I mean visually you can tell immediately like here's the worst streets in town. Right. And is it different shades of it? So you can compare one street to another. And as you Yeah, each one has a like a comparable rating. And as you zoom in,
each individual photograph has a rating. So like Oh, this one's 38. And if I come over here, like it's in better shape, so it's a 90. So Oh, okay. What you know, it's it gives you like a broader rating of the whole road, but there's individual spots alone. Did that program automatically take the pictures or did you have to hit it every time? No, it's
it's essentially two shooting a video and then breaking it up. So every 25 ft it takes a still image. Okay. And then it evaluate it's there's an AI processing tool that they have put together that's really their data um that identifies pavement distress signs
based on the visual and then like I said it identifies all of the signs. It can tell you whether they're dirty, whether they have stickers on them, whether they're obstructed by branches. So it it does all of that automatically. We just drove it and spits all this information.
Yeah, it's pretty powerful tool. Thank you. Anything else, R? Please email me that. Yes, everybody else. Yeah, I literally as I got in my car, I was like, "Oh, I didn't print it and I don't have time." Is that
something that he could send to you to include with the be two days behind? But yeah, I can do that. Okay. When I send it out, Brian, do you have anything? Yes, I'll respond with Okay. Thank you. I do have time.
All right. Number 14 on our agenda is a resolution authorizing the hire of an entrylevel law enforcement officer pursuant to NJSA 11A of form 4-1.3.
Motion. Second. Motion made and seconded. Question on the motion. Roll call, please. Clark, yes. Doby, yes. Galloway, yes. Yes. Hi, yes. Kener, yes. Timbers, yes. Yes.
Resolution passes. Number 15 on the agenda is authorize a shared service agreement by and between the city of A Carver and the town of Hamilton relative to the service of grant project administrator.
Is there a motion? I'll make the motion with Jerry. Yes, Dovy made a motion. And how how is this going to be split up? I'm sorry. I got a question though. We finished the motion. I can answer all the question. Thank you. So, we got a motion from Mr. Dobby. Is there a second? I'll second it and then I got a
question. Okay. All right. Second. Not really a question. I just want to verify Egg Harbor City is the number one priority. So, basically, if Egg Harbor City something happens, you're here before that. My my Mason, my paycheck comes from I know. I'm just making sure. Just so everybody knows. And Hamilton has to pay Jody. Yeah. Exactly. I just
want to make sure so all happen make sure that Yeah. Yeah. So speaking of paying Jody, what is the amount? 20,000 for this year for July to December 31st, 42,000 for next year based on their new
council resolution at reorganization or the first meeting of January. And how many hours? It would be 9 to 4:30, one day a week. and I would be here that day in the
morning to make sure public works is set up and then shoot over to Town Hall Central Avenue. And any emergencies we still have access. So it'll be a midweek day. It'll fluctuate which midweek day. It'll never be a Monday or a Friday. It'll always be a midweek day. Monday is
a no good and Friday is the worst stuff. That's all questions I had. Okay. Roll call questions. Clark. Clark. Yes. Doy. Yes. Galloway. Yes. Ice. Pessie.
Yes. Kener. Yes. Timbers. Yes. Right. Yes. Resolution passes. Could I just ask one other thing? Will you still be in there with code on Wednesdays having your meetings? Great. That's an 8:30 meeting.
Okay. Number 16, uh, resolution directing the AC Carver City Land Use Board to conduct a preliminary investigation to determine whether certain areas and properties identified as the Acarbon North rehabilitation area is an area in need
of redevelopment as defined in NJSA48 col2-5 without the power of eminent domain which is non-command com redevelopment area.
Is there a motion? I'll make that motion. Second. Motion's been made and seconded. Questions on the motion? Yeah, I had a question. Yeah. Um, why is this being done without the eminent domain? Um,
I get ahead. Yeah, because the city owns most of the property out there anyway and then the other properties that the city doesn't own uh are currently um going through uh tax lead forclosure. Well, wouldn't the uh having the eminent
domain speed that up a little bit? Not necessarily. I think where we are in the process, we're far enough along with with the uh leans that it should move faster and quite frankly, you know, the city doesn't have to pay if they go through that process. They don't have to
pay for the fair market value of the property. Originally, we thought it would have been for doing that, but we can come back. It's something we can always come back and amend later on if for whatever reason uh the lanes take too long and the city has the ability to to fund the purchase of those
properties. you're still going to have to go through and pay for all the properties. The other u thing to note is the way that this development is being set up, it's going to be set up in a number of phases and the city's compiled enough properties for far more that they
than they needed for phase one. So that gives the city enough lead time to go through um the lean process and and and acquire title to the other properties without having to go out the bond to pay for the other properties through everything. Thank you.
Any other questions? Roll call, please. Clark, yes. Doy, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Hessie, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Right? Yes. Resolution passes. Uh, number 17, you
asked to table that. Jody, yes. Is there a motion to table? I'll make a motion. Second. Motion made to second it. We could just do all in favor that way. Yep. Yes. All in favor? I I opposed.
Resolution passes for the table. Uh number 18, resolution authorized the award of a nonfair and open contract for the National Fitness Court Equipment. Is there a motion?
I'll second. That's for across the street. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Motion made second. Questions on the motion? Clark, yes. Doie, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Hessie, yes. Ter, yes.
Timbers, yes. Right. Yes. Resolution passes. Number 19. Authorize Bington and Bernick engineers to provide professional services associated with the FY25 NJ dot municipal aid grant for the
reconstruction of Zester Street from Braymond to Baltimore Adams. Motion second. Motion made second questions. Clark, yes. Joby, yes. Galloway, yes. Spice, yes. Pessie, yes. Painer, yes.
Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. Resolution passes. Number 20. Resolution authorizing Remington and Vernick to submit the FY26 DOT municipal aid application for the reconstruction of Camp Street from Braymond to
approximately path. Do we want to amend this one to include Burger Street from Cincinnati to Buffalo as well? Yes. Yep. Addend motion. I'll make a motion. Second. Motion made. Seconded. Questions. Roll
call, please. Clark, yes. Doie, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Hessie, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. Resolution passes. Number 21, resolution authorizing the permit date for the
installation of a heater and hot water heater at the Moravian Church parsonage to be waved. I'll make a motion. Motion second. Motion made second. Questions. Roll call, please.
Clark, yes. Yes. Galloway. Yes. Heist for Cruz being a member of the church. Hessie, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Right. Yes. Resolution passes. Number 22. Acknowledge and approve the completion
and submittal of an application for NJA for the award of an HD SRF grant in the lot of in the amount of $169,139.80 80 cents for site remediation on the
Moss Mill Road land motion. Is there a second? Second. A motion made second. Is there questions on this? I have a question. Um I have a question regarding um in the
resolution where it said whereas the city is committed to the redevelopment by redeveloper Jonathan Sher within three years after the completion of the project site. Does this mean that we are basically he will be our only
redeveloper like for the year for quite a while now we've been going from April to October October to April now we're going to go how forever does he have as much time as ever he wants more time
how much is more time well he the the city granted him a year extension this April so that's under the redevelopment eve He he doesn't necessarily need to be the one to do the redevelopment. If something if the bottom falls out of his project, city could proceed with another redeveloper or go through that process.
This is a requirement for funding. You have to make a commitment to DP that you're going to pursue and engage in a redevelopment project within the next three years. So whether Jonathan sticks with the project or not, which very much seems to be um the city will continue to pursue redevelopment at the site with 10
plus years. So even though it says him does it not say with him with him or whatever because yeah I mean you could strike that language but you'd rather I would feel more comfortable change it here
I don't have to resolution I mean you can amend the resolution now yeah commit to this you want to strike in coordination with redeveloper. Yeah. Just so I don't want to break that whereas I'll make that
motion specifically named for your help. Right. Right. So who made the motion? You want to amend it? I have gi so hard about being committed to the
redevelopment just I just wanted the whereas so councilwoman Clark and Galloway would you agree to the yes yes
roll call roll call Clark yes yes Galloway Yes. Heist. Yes. Hessie. Yes. Painer. Yes. Timbers. Yes. Refe. Yes. Resolution passes. Number 23. Resolution
to renew liquor licenses July 1st, 2025 through June 30th of 2026. Planer retail consumption for the St. Louis. Not going to read the license. Jaro's Italian Grill. Harbor Diner.
Crossroads Firehouse Bar and Grill, Hammy's Bar and Grill, MRN, MRM LLC pocket license, and 1,400 White Horse Pike LLC pocket license. Two pocket
licenses on Yes, I'll make the motion. I'll second that. Motion made and seconded. Questions? Roll call, please. We don't need to roll. All in favor? I. Resolution passes.
Okay. Number 24. Resolution to refund property taxes due to overpayment. So moved. Second. Roll call, please. Clark, yes. Doby, yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes.
Hessie, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, yes. Rice, yes. Resolution passes. Number 25, resolution support from Lake Arbor City Common Council authorizing the sustainable communities grant
application funded by Atlantic City Electric. Motion second. Motion made second. A question on the motion. Roll call. Uh Clark, yes.
Yes. Galloway. Yes. He resolution passes number 26. Authorized memorandum of understanding between the city of a Carver Cape and Cape Atlantic Soil Conservation District regarding the
delivery of Key Island Assess. Is there a motion? Motion. Second. Second. questions. I have a question. I just wanted to know uh we're not obligated to do anything with this information. We're just we're just basically doing a study. Is that what it
is? Thanks. No question. Don't roll call. Clark. Yes. Go. Recuse. Galloway. Yes. Uh yes. Hessie, yes. Kener, yes.
Timbers, yes. Right. Yes. Resolution passes. Number 27, introduce ordinance. Ordinance number 11 chapter 17 11-2025. Grading chapter 179 dumpster permit paid
guidelines in the code of the city of Var advertise on. Well, we have to first. Is there a motion? I make a move. Second motion made and second. Question.
What's the dumpster fees? The fees. It's $50. It's 50. It's 100. If they failed to obtain a permit, it's in it. Oh, it's in. And this was all modified. Yeah. And specifically with what Mason asked for all that. Just keep renewing
it. Yeah. Okay. Roll call, please. Need a roll call. All in favor. I I opposed. Resolution or introduction passes. Uh notice of adoption for introduction in
the Hamilton Gazette on June 18th, 2025 for a public hearing on 20. Yep, you can do that all morning. June 26. Okay. So, it's all You have a motion? Yes. Is there a motion? I make a motion. Second. Second. Motion made in second. All in
favor? I I number 28 is the one we're going to um table. It's rescheduled. Res already. It's not tabled. Okay. Res. Number 29.
Uh public hearing on ordinance number 8 202025. There was a 2025 salary ordinance amended. Is there a motion to hold the public hearing? I'll make a motion. Second motion made second. All in favor? I I
public hearing is open for the 2025 salary ordinance amendment. So you just want to give a quick synopolis number number eight. You should you should have the public.
You should close the public attention. Okay. Anybody wish to be heard on this ordinance? I'll make a motion to close. Motion being Is there a second? Second. Motion being seconded to close public hearing. All in favor? I opposed. Okay.
Now I ask question. Let's just make sure all the salaries set by either um contract or by resolution fit within the what the actual range. The ordinance just has ranges in it and then the contract resolution are what's very specific. So it just makes sure that all
those salaries stay within these ranges. So we have a new police contract this year. So this is just making sure that and I think adding in as well. Okay, good. Uh is there a motion to adopt? Motion. I'll second. Motion main second,
please. Clark, yes. Doby, yes. Galloway, yes. Heer, yes. Timbers, yes. Yes. Motion for advertising notice of adoption in the habit of the gazette on
June 18th. Make a motion second. Motion made second. All in favor? I post motion passes. Okay. Number 30, public hearing on ordinance number nine of 2025
for chapter 230 solid waste replacing and repealing article 3 230-16 to 230-24. Motion to hold the public hearing second. All those in favor? I
public hearing is open on ordinance number nine. Any questions from the audience? Second call. Motion to close. Make a motion. Is there a second? Second. Motion made
second and close public hearing. All in favor? I I. Public hearing closed. Is there a motion to adopt? Make a motion. Second. Motion made and seconded to adopt. Roll call, please. Clark, yes.
yes. Galloway, yes. Heist, yes. Hi, yes. Kenir, yes. Timbers, right? Yes. Option passes. Um, motion to advertise notice of adoption and gazette. Make a
motion 18. Second. Motion made second. All in favor? I I number 31 bill list. I'll make a motion. Second. Motion made second. Roll call, please. Clark, yes. Toby, yes. Galloway, yes.
Heist, yes. Hessie, yes. Kirner, yes. Timbers, yes. Wright, yes. number 32. Uh comments, mayor, just congratulations to all our local graduates and uh special thanks to New Jersey American Water who really put on
a nice uh program or event on Saturday. Was very, like I said, very well attended and it was done first class. That's all. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Ray. Uh just a couple things.
Um, football camp starts in two weeks, the 24th of June. We'll be out there Tuesdays and for the last month of June and all of July and five nights a week in August. It's um, yes, it's hot. Mhm.
So, but um, the tennis courts and pickle ball, I've been out there for 20 years. I haven't seen nobody use those courts until yesterday. That place was mobbed yesterday. I was very impressed that was actually being used for tennis tennis instead of rollerblading or skateboarding or or anything else. So I
was kind of kind of nice to see people be actually using it. So it was pretty nice. Um and uh other thing I have I just want to give a a big thank you family and the patch family for like selecting my daughter tonight to receive the Gavin's award. um you don't know how
much that means to her especially and and to our family and um I just I'm just greatly greatly greatly appreciate and thank everybody. Yeah, that's it. Councilwoman Galloway. Um, I just wanted
to congratulate Councilwoman Nessie and the ordinance committee for passing the trash ordinance tonight. We worked on that for months and it was it was Yes, we was quite a challenge to get that in
writing. So, congratulations on that. I don't have anything. Thank you. Everyone's still sane after that. I'll go on the record that I have not flipped any tables despite the threats. That's surprising, right?
Well, I endured a lot. Uh what I have to say is um I'm also very happy that the pickle ball courts and tennis courts are are in place now. It's wonderful that they're open. Um I just love I've been
out there numerous times already and um For me, I think there's a couple of things I'd like to just send out there for since I am a pickle ball player. Not that I'm a great pickle ball player, I'll say that. I just want to say yes. Just want to say for safety purposes, if
a ball goes in another court, please call ball. There's so many ankles that have been twisted. Not by doing that, and just use courtesy out there. It's it's a wonderful game, and I think everybody should should give it a try.
It's great and um thank you everybody for pushing for it, mayor. It's wonderful. Um they also have this free app if anybody wants to use it called Team Reach. Um it kind of gets everybody
together. So um uh and other than that, I just wanted to say happy Father's Day to all you fathers out there. Have a good good weekend. That's it. Thank you, Councilman Dobby. Comments? I I have no
comments. Thank you, Councilwoman Clark. Comments? Um yeah. Uh so, uh congratulations to the class of 2025. Also, happy Father's Day to all of the um all of the fellow councilmen up there, as well as, you know, the fathers in Carver City and my husband that's
currently staring at me. Um also the Crusaders. Uh we are having our first um fundraiser going on right now. Um we have uh partnered with Ruckers University in New Brunswick where the
Ruckers football team has um they will be hosting a Crusaders Day on Thursday, August 28th. Uh where our Crusaders have been invited to participate in the pregame pep rally. It's going to be the opening season, the season opener for
the Ruckers uh Scarlet Knights. That's going to happen on Thursday, August 28th, um at 6:00 p.m. in New Brunswick at Shy Stadium. Tickets are $15. Uh but with fees, it's like $18 and uh $5 of each of those ticket sales
goes directly to the Crusaders. Um, so we're hoping to have everyone come out and support, even if they just buy a ticket, you know, it it it goes to a good cause for our kids. And that's all. Thank you. I just want to add to that,
too. Um, those that don't know, the Meltons are also holding a camp up in Rubbers, a free camp for all kids. Um, as everybody knows, they go over city kids that two kids that made it to the NFL that, you know, one's playing for Green Bay and one's playing for Arizona.
Um, so they're doing a big camp over Ruckers for the kids also, too. So, just nice. Thank you, Councilwoman. He just want to say happy Father's Day to all the dads, especially my husband and my dad in heaven. He was the best dad there was.
Councilman Timbers, I just want to be the first one to say well yell law but other than that say one thing I um me uh chief and I we attended a stigmafree breakfast last
was it last week chief I don't know it feels like a long time ago but it really wasn't Um so the chief got an was in May. So I it is on Facebook with her holding her award. She um got a an award for you know being very co cognizant of
you know people's needs and things like that and how our police handles issues. So congratulations. Congratulations. Uh for me I would say happy father's day and happy graduation to all the
graduates. But uh I was talking to an avid tennis player and he told me real tennis players do not play. True. He's played. There's many of them have. Yes.
This guy's uh open it up for public comments. Anybody have any comments please come forward and state your name and address on the front door
where our mail is. Hi, good evening. My name is Dana Siver. I live on the 100 block of Boston Avenue. um been a proud member of other city for taxpayer for 50 years. My husband's here 40 plus years.
Um raised my kids here. So I am very proud of the town that I live in. Um but there's been some concern and it's my first time um being here to raise a concern of all the years. I typically promote all the positivity that goes on in our on our town and you know I always
want to encourage people to come here. So just know that this comes from a place of just deep concern because I know we talk about all the things that we want to do to make our town better and in order to do that you need the people here and to have people here one of the things that needs to happen is it
needs to feel like a safe place. So this is you know where my concern comes from especially huge huge advocate for our police officers and huge respect for our police and fires. So again, just know that this comes from a concern and I am speaking on behalf of my mother who just
moved here about a year ago. She lives in Brit Manner Apartments and um so I am speaking on her behalf just to sort of you know kind of put the issue out there sort of leaving all the emotion out of it just to kind of get right down to the nitty-gritty. Um, and uh, I'm speaking
on behalf of my family and many others in the community who are alarmed by the growing number of loose dogs uh, roaming our streets. This isn't just a minor inconvenience. I believe that this has become a public safety crisis. Um, and so that's why I'm here. There have been
many loose dogs being seen. It seems like it's just growing and becoming worse lately. Um I I and last month first I was personally attacked with my dog uh by a pitull on the 200 block of
the 11th terrace. Um the worst that happened at that point was I just had some rope burn from the leash. But nonetheless um that was you know that occurred last month. My mother and her dog Romeo were attacked by loose pitbull. It was terrifying. Two good
Samaritans intervened and helped. But I want to be clear about a few things. Um, unlike what was reported in the original report, it was not the dog owner that helped. It was two um, citizens that were in the car that happened to witness the attack. The
report originally said that it was an owner that assisted in that and that is not true. Um, unfortunately that was not the only inaccuracy in the report. And by the way, I want to say with regards to the report, I want to thank Mayor Lisa and Chief because they sort of helped speed up the process because just getting the
report was really difficult for my mother to get. Um, I personally spoke to the officer who was supposed to write the report. He told me 7 to 10 days. She had to go there three times. Still no report. And this happened back on May 15th, I believe. And um, the answer that
was given was that the officer was not available. So, you know, why does the offer have officer have to be present for her to get a report that should have already been written? Just again, these are just concerns. Um, but those were not the only inaccuracies in the report.
The color and type of dog was incorrect. And the witness that one of the witnesses that helped intervene posted in detail on Facebook sort of everything that I'm saying that goes against what the report says. So this is from the um
my mother as well as the witness um that said that stated that you know these were inaccurate. So the type of dog was inaccurate. The color of the dog was inaccurate. The mo my mother's address that was written on the report was inaccurate. It was the wrong address. Um as I mentioned, oh the name
that was listed as a witness on the original report uh it was not even a person that was there. It was they mentioned the wife's name. The wife was not present. it was the actual husband that was there. So, there was a name listed in the report that was not even present at the scene or that helped. Um,
and then additionally, the witness mentioned that when they went up to the officer to say, "Hey, do you want my information? You want to take my information?" The officer told them no. Um and you know what we're left asking with just regards to the report is you
know what kind of accountability and accuracy can we expect from those you know who are there to help protect us and again this is not a dig I have a huge effect for police off you know police enforcement but um a lot of inaccuracies
in the report the report mentions um that you know the person who's responsible is going to pay for the cost of the vet bill, which is really what ultimately my mother
wants. But the problem is they won't give my mother any of the information on how to go about pursuing this. Um, and this again isn't an isolated event. We I know of a friend who's all her
chickens were killed last night. And this is the second time that a dog got loose and killed all of their chickens. My mother's neighbor who she lives next door to, her sister was just attacked on Buffalo Avenue by a German Shepherd who had to be flown to Cooper because of the
dog attack. Um I know a dog last year who was killed and mauled by a dog. So this is a growing problem. So, I want to ask the council and I'm just putting all of the questions out there. Um, are we afraid
to enforce laws? And if so, why? We need real answers and a plan of action. Specifically, what are the legal requirements to own a dog in a harbor city? Are the owners required to register their pets? which I know the answer to that because my mother did
register did register her dog because we were told it was required. Are they required to keep them on leash? Must the owners have a fenced in yard and how are the laws being enforced? Are there consequences for the play are what are
the consequences that are in place for the owners whose dogs attack, injure or kill other animals or god forbid people. Um, I want to know why it's such a difficult process for her to get a gentleman who is responsible for their
dog owner to pay the vet bills. They have the person's name on the report, but then what are is she supposed to do with that information if she doesn't know how to get a hold of him? It says in here in the report he advised that PAX is current with all
his vaccinations, although there was no proof of that. He didn't provide any of his vac up-to-date vaccinations. It was just verbal. And says, "We'll make arrangements with Deborah for any veterinary cost injuries to Romeo." How how how are they going to do that? They
say that they have she has to take him to civil court. Don't know how we're supposed to do that if we don't have his information. So, I think we want to know a step-by-step process when something like this happens. She just wants the bills to be
paid for and also wants harsher punishments for people who are irresponsible pet owners. Uh we are asking the council to take immediate action and transparent action to correct these failures these and and enforce existing laws and provide real
resolutions before someone else or someone's child, god forbid, ends up hurt or worse. Um, I walk around with my kids all the time and I have found myself becoming um doing that less and less because of the concern for the
dogs. She pepper- sprrayed the dog. It didn't do anything. So, I feel like this is something that should be sort of on our priority list because I feel like unless it happens to you, sometimes people don't take think it's, you know, important enough to be sort of put up on
their priority list. Um, but you don't want it to happen to you. So, I'm just putting it out there. I do feel like that there answers, you know, we do need to have answers to those questions. Um, I know that we are short staff of police officers and they're they're drawn thin.
They're everywhere. I I've been in this community a long time. I see them everywhere. So I just think it's important that you know we address it because like I said god forbid child so you want to see kids running around want to see them on bikes and playing and but
it is a concern. Dana I agree with you 100%. We need to do something about this. This isn't the first time. It happened to me as well and it happened to me a couple years ago and I said the same thing. the what if it was a child?
The dog had me pinned. I had nowhere to go and it was just growling at me. And same sort of situation happened to me. So, we do need to take action here. This is not and I've heard numerous times other times. So,
uh Chief, could you tell me is there something that the officers can do differently because we need to enforce this. We need to enforce this. Few different things. Um I like the report. So, in terms of the getting the reports,
I'm sorry Congress would have come to me with these concerns because a lot of the stuff council can't answer and I can answer all these questions for you, but here we are. So, regarding the report and the payment for everything, I don't know whether it was explained to you, but I did talk to I talked to the mayor
and I'm sorry the information was not related uh correctly or whether there was any misinterpretation on the officer's part, on your part. What happens is we ask for the vet bills so that way we can attach them to the actual report because he was cited issued a dog at large and an
unregistered dog. So with that it goes to the court at that point in time. The judge will see what the uh damages are for Romeo's vet bills or anything like that. He can if he chooses to do so make that part of the reparations um as part
of whatever he's doing. Uh so that's where that is. At that point in time, if he doesn't do anything that unfortunately you would have to take into civil court. Um and at that point in time, you could get all the relevant information from the court. When we give you information, we do have to redact
certain information initially. So that's why the report is the way that it is. So I hope that clarifies everything. The owner of that dog is not from this town. He was cited um he I'm sorry. He's not cited for unregistered because he's non resident here of the town. He was cited
for dog at large. Um, regarding the chickens last night, unfortunately in Harver city code, chickens do not count as a domestic animal. So any the uh a dog is uh a dog attacks another animal um domesticated animal or livestock.
Unfortunately, poultry does not fall under that in the Egg Harbor City code. At that point in time, we get code enforcement involved and they will then make a determination as to whether to to declare it a vicious dog or not. There are in the code there is something to dictate that if a dog is declared
vicious by the court that there are certain stipulations that dog owners need to uh comply with specifically fencing, double fencing, signage. So all of that is in the code. Unfortunately, we are tied by our code and we can't
issue citations uh above anything like that. One thing I would recommend is that um we need to confirm with the court because there are specific dogs that do get loose over and over again. We cite them every time. I need to follow up and
find out exactly whether or not they're still being fined the $250 or what whatever uh or if there's any progressive actions like that. And at that point in time, even if the dog is not deemed vicious, if the dog keeps escaping, then perhaps there's something that there needs to be enacted in code
that says your dog is getting out XYZ amount of times you need to do XYZ. That's uh that's not up to me, but those are recommendations that I can make and that's something that the council regarding the report. Um
I'm not going to make excuses for that officer. I don't know what happened, what was there, you know. So, I'm glad that you looked at the report. Um, I believe that the sergeant did an addendum to the report making the corrections that you uh indicated. So,
you know, that's something that we will have to discuss, but repeat with that officer, but the blatant mistakes, the wrong address, the wrong name, anything like that, that's unacceptable and that's something that will be handled, you know. So, um, thank you for bringing that to my attention.
You know, Chief Mayan also didn't have an address on it. I don't know where that woman lived at. No idea. I still have the I still have the paperwork if you want to see it. I don't. Thank you. And I won't have it for
but yeah. So go through any of the questions because you you you put out a lot. So I don't know if I answered most of it. Yeah. Or or I hope I remember everything and explain
you very well. So my concern is like um you know like my fear factor after that happened that incident I carry it bad I carry a mace I carry it spray and I send prayers up to the good
board that something happens and and it wasn't the first time that Romeo's been attacked and I don't listen I love animals and I love the horse that's a repetitive know that the animal the animal I I feel the
same should be held accountable in some kind of a assault assault. So my my question was so which was it the same dog that attacked both.
Okay. So, so if a dog attacks another dog, do the kid in an animal control should come in and they will make an assessment or do a citation of a potential vicious dog that then goes to the court. The court will make the determination whether or not that dog is
vicious or not. So, it's a process and and you know, it's it's once we issue and once we get animal control involved and I'm not trying to pass it up, but once it goes to the court, you know, somebody will come to you, oh, my dog's a good dog, this the
other. So, but that is the process. So, if a dog attacks another dog, then there can be a vicious dog or potentially dangerous dog. I'm sorry. It's potentially dangerous and then vicious dog. That's the that's the the succession. So, so this has been over to
animal control. Animal control every time there's their I'm very limited to the information that gets supplied, but I know about that in terms of the reporting. So, and I'm not trying that there may have been a lot of
miscommunication. Yes, it typically is 10 business days or any police report just because the officer has to write it. He may not be able to write it right at that during his shift because we're running around. Once it's written, then it needs to go to the supervisor to approve it or not approve it. And then
if there are any issues for them to uh approve or to correct, then so we like to give it 7 to 10 business days. Most reports don't take 7 to 10 business days. I know that when you did come in to submit some more records, our records clerk was not aware that she wanted the report at that point in time. She
thought you were just submitting some more paperwork. Otherwise, the paperwork was important. Okay. Yeah, it was time. So, so I apologize for any miscommunication about our book. So, yeah. So, Angela
Angel. Yeah. Sweet. She is so sweet. She is um I just I feel that the owners should be accountable. It wasn't just my incident. And and you know what happened to my neighbor was horrific. You know what I'm
saying? So, I know she went right away got a lawyer. yet, you know, issuing citations and and the and the owners not um being responsible enough to to pay them because I'm sure I'm sure they know, you know, as I get a
ticket, you know, that um it's an assumption I should make. But, you know, is it pursued? I mean, is it So, once once it gets to the court, I don't think that a judge and you may have more insight to this. I don't think they'll put out a warrant for not paying a
municipal ordinance. I I don't I don't know. And you know, so it's like we do all that we can in the police department with our code and what we can do with our ordinances. So you know, maybe it is something that we need
to review and you know, uh because I know yes, they are supposed to be registered. We have dogs here in town. We have dogs at large that are not registered. issue, you know, it's like we to do what we can after after attack
this past Thursday, two pitfalls about Louis V. They almost went to Vburg. They were right by the slide towards the front. Okay. And then an hour later, my girlfriend and I were coming out of the post office and these kids were running and across the street was a Robweiler
and a black and white. I think you guys got the black and white call was two days. Yeah. I saw officer not white rain had ugly ass looks like. So that
was in the same day dogs in the same day. It almost seemed like there was mouse. They bird got around to these dogos and let them that's all when they just I have a question. Does animal control patrol our streets? I think you
have to know all them, right, Jerry? They The one woman I talked to there covers the county. Covers the county. They may sometimes in Angar. I remember we had a a golden retriever. He was 140 pounds. He was the biggest teddy bear in the world. He used to love to run to the
lake. He was at the lake and we get a call from Atlantic City that animal control picked up our dog who had a collar with his address and name on it and we had to go down and pay $100 in Atlantic City to get our dog out of jail. Somebody must have called. No, animal control happened to be having his
lunch at the lake and on his arrested my dog. So, it's not understanding why animal control doesn't like when I was a kid, they had a dog catcher. We used to have a local one. Yeah. So like they don't have that anymore. There's nothing. It's it's a service that we buy
into. We don't even have I'd like to say that I have a lot of walk. Me takes the registrations for the dogs. Is it is it you the two of you because we don't really have anybody on there, right? We have like maybe one or two animals on the the registration. One or two. Do we
have that many? Because I look at Yeah. Yeah. Do we have a lot registered? Probably around 54. 54. Okay, I got to tell you, Jess and knock on door from door to door. There's more than 54 dogs in
the sense. Absolutely. But I think I not to prolong this, but I think what Debbiey's saying is that Mr. It's kind of like almost an assault with a deadly weapon when you let your dog run free like that. And if it's a mean
dog and it just defies logic that the only thing let's not not any fault of yours that this guy gets is just let let his dog run. I think that's the I don't think that's necessarily well I don't think that's necessarily true though either um because you know um police
will site then there'll be a court order for a violation of whatever the municipal code is to the extent that there is bodily injuries or injuries to property which a dog would be considered property you can bring a civil suit right against the person for you know whatever that whatever those damages
would be so I mean you can do as much as you can from an enforcement standpoint point, then it sounds like chief's doing what she can under under the code. And then on top of that, you know, there's there's civil remedies that if there was an injury to the person or the property, they they have every right to think she's trying to listen to you and she
can. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying and yeah, other than what the chief said that there is there is municipal court process where the person say it's fine. Potentially, if the dog's deemed vicious, they can put the they can order the dog be put down. Um, and then on top of that, if a person or the animal was injured and there's damages there, you
do have the option to file a a lawsuit against the person. So, they're not hel they're really not held accountable or they're not being they're not fixing their fences. They're not securing or containing their dogs. Um, that's that's
what I see that they're not doing it. and I guess my next step would be cool. You know what we could do? We could uh refer to our ordinance committee and look at what other towns are doing to solve problems like this. And Jerry, I've seen this in the other towns that
you've worked. No, not like this. Not like this. But my my experience with our animal control was very positive. We were able to we had uh we had an animal by one of our employees while they were doing a violation inspection.
That dog was grabbed by animal control, brought to the animal shelter for 10 days. the dog was released to the owner that day or at that moment that the dog was
released, the dog turned on the owner and so that dog had be right. So, so I've had a positive experience with our animal control because they're very responsive. They're always in the county, they they respond within hours, but um as you're walking your dog and
other dogs are attracted to your dog and want to fight and all of that stuff, that's a very scary situation. I'm not sure and I could check with other municipalities because I belong to an administrator's association that we kind of share this information and these
experiences. I'll see if they've had anything that they've been able to present to their council that passed as far as an ordinance that may have strengthened the ability to deal with deal with dogs that you know dogs that are you know another thing when we were going through the cat
situation over at the village. Uh, I was talking to the woman that covers Hey, Carver City for Animal Control, Nicole. Nicole. Yeah. And u I think she would be willing to come to a meeting like this and talk about ways that we can address
this working with the police, our code people, and uh try to come up with a That's a good idea. She's extremely action. She's extremely bright, very responsive. Yeah. Yeah, Nicole. Nicole has been I mean whenever we call um she
told me anytime we need any questions answered or whatever she would call. I can extend if you want for the 26th I can extend that invitation to her and her boss and and have them come. That'd be great. We can see what Adam say how many dogs were do you have this?
Do you have that? If we don't have it well they have to be on leash. I know that much. can't be running unless you're going to look at old towns and see what they have. Let me talk to you. I'm going to give you my Okay.
Thank you for bringing that up. Is there anyone else wish to be heard in the audience? That's all right. Thank you. I want to say Jerry's doing an amazing job. Amazing. Tell those guys up there.
All these keep doing what you're doing. You're on point. All right, guys. Have a good night. Anyone else wish to be heard? No one else. Is there a motion to adjurnn? Make a motion. Make a motion.
Second. All in favor? I You got