All right, my people. It's a rainy day. Let's get everybody let's get everybody in and out as much as possible. Um, we have Kobe on the phone. Kobe's out of town, but uh she'll be doing a roll call from out of town.
So, we're going to call the regular council meeting to order for Tuesday, July 22nd, 2025 at 7:02 p.m. We'll do one more time meditation to the flag of the United States of America and justice for all.
Madam Cler, can I please roll call please? Here. not yet. No, it's not yet. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. We appreciate that. Madam
clerk is outside coming in right now. So for the record will be coming in right now. Um next we're moving to approve of the agenda. Do I have a motion to approve? Moved by council person Ward and second
by Vice Mayor Martin. Correct. All in favor say I. I. All post say nay. Hearing none. Next is good and welfare. This right here you guys is if anybody wants to come up and talk about anything on the agenda on this particular agenda. Um you will also have a chance to talk after the agenda
items or resolutions. Um it's for the good the first good and welfare. Um if you have any comments there that's for that. Um I do have to say there's one resolution that has a wrong name um in it and we're going to change that. Uh it
has a misspelling also. We'll change that. Okay. All right. just a wrong resident name. That's all it is. We'll change that. Uh any other good and welfare for this particular agenda or agenda items? Seeing none,
moving on. Um consent agenda. Do we have any questions or comments? Do we have a motion for the consent agenda? I would like to pull F5. F which one? F5. Okay. So, we'll pull F5.
We'll pull F5. We'll make that the uh last uh item. So we'll bring that down to resolution G4. Okay. So that be G4 from hearing nothing else. Do we have a motion to approve
before we do that without pulling the tree? Is it possible to just request that they no longer have agenda um for the tree or for the company as a whole? So let's go. Let's go. Let's talk
about that. The last good welfare. Okay. Okay. Got you. Um seeing hear nothing else. Do I have a mot to approve consent agenda? So moved by Vice Mayor Martin. Do you have a second? Second by council person. Madam cler with a second.
Oh Winters. Oh sorry about that. Council person win. Sorry about that. I have eyes in the back of my head sometimes. So madam cler can I roll call for consent agenda? Yes. Yes.
Vice Mayor. Mayor. Yes. Perfect. Thank you very much. Yes. Maybe not. My apologies, but they did. They were planning to attend
it because of weather, but no problem. Moving down to resolution ordinances. Uh, uh, Miss Hamus, can you please come up to the microphone, please? We're first going to have um everybody who will be talking about any of these
uh resolutions, these site plans, the roof material, the garage conversion, um the new site plan. Anybody who will be saying anything about any of these items, uh you want to get up and comment about these items at all. You feel like you may please stand up. Raise your
right hand. Stand up. Raise your right hand. Anybody else? Do you swear to God that what you going to say is truth and the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Either take a oath or affirmation.
See, I do. I swear. Thank you very much. Sit on. I appreciate that. Um, we're going to move on. Like we said, we're in the resolution. So, resolution G1, the first item is 175 Northwest 86 Street moving material. Um, I don't believe the
client is here, but I'll go vote. She's walking in right now. Um, Miss Hammonds, from the uh from the committee meeting, have there been any changes, adjustments, or conditions that were put on there? There have not. This is the same exact application that came before the
planning and zoning board and the recommendation is still for approval. Thank you very much. I know that we did add, if you guys saw, we added the pictures. The pictures were part of it. We added that. So, that was good. Thank you, Madam Vice Mayor. Um, do I have any questions or comments from the from the council?
G1 questions or comments from the council? Yeah. Um, just really quickly, I did speak with um the one of the companies that she's possibly going to work with that works with the material that I'm going to provide for her. They came and
looked over the material at my home and they said it was valuable and usable for her house. It's not the full amount for her roof, but uh I believe they said they're going to work with her to make sure everything can happen, financing can happen. Thank you very much. Appreciate that,
Council Person. Anybody else? Hearing seeing none, anybody from the audience for this particular item, 175 Northwest 86 Street materials hearing. Seeing none, going back to the council, do I have a motion to approve? Moved by Vice Mayor Martin. Do I have a
second? Second. Second by council person Winters. Madam clerk, can I please have a roll call? Roll call. Yes. Yes. say yes.
Yes. Vice Mayor Martin. Yes. Mayor, yes. All right. I just want to say for the record that I will accept the staff recommendation um for the record and let me read that really quick, madam clerk.
Uh a resolution just say a resolution of the village of Upper Council of Upper Florida authorizing the approval of a variance for roofing material which does not comply with section 5-23A cement or clay roof tiles required. Exceptions of the code of ordinances at
175 Northwest 86 Street as requested by Geette Campbell providing for an incorporation recital providing for an effective date. The count is 50. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. We're on Thank you very much. We're on to the next G2. G2 is 8850
Northeast 4th Avenue garage conversion. This is a resolution of the village of Alberta Coun of the Village Council of Albertau, Florida, authorizing the approval of a variance for a garage enclosure conversion which does not comply with section 5-66
garage enclosure of the code of ordinances at 8850 Northeast 4th Avenue as requested by Ariel Eek providing for incorporation of recital providing for an effective date. Um,
Miss Hammonds What is the staff recommendation? Have there been any changes or adjustments um since the committee meeting? I know at the committee meeting the um individuals weren't here, but if you guys can stand up real quick so we see who you are for your garage conversion, they did come
for this meeting. All right, we appreciate you guys coming for this meeting. What is the staff recommendation and Yes. Um the application remains the same as approved by the planning and zoning board meeting and um staff still recommends approval for such.
Thank you very much. Um I know that they weren't committee but were there any comments or questions from the council for uh the applicant or for this particular item? Hearing seeing none, any comments or questions from the audience for this
particular item, garage conversion? Hearing seeing none, do I have a motion to approve resolution G2? So moved by Vice Mayor Martin. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Council Person Winters. Madam Cler, roll call for G2.
Roll call. Yes. report. Yes. Vice Mayor. Yes. Mayor. Yes. Thank you very much. And I will accept the staff recommendation um into the
record. The next one is resolution G3. This is for 183 Northeast 89th Street new site plan. Um, this is a resolution of the village council of Eltown, Florida, granting site plan approval for new construction
of a two-story residence at 183 Northeast 89th Street in zone 3 suburban residents in the village of Alberta and application by Marina Guang providing for findings providing for appeal providing for an effective date. Um,
Miss Hammonds, has there been any adjustments since the committee meeting? And what is the staff recommendation? There have not been any changes since the and zoning board approval and the staff recommendation still remains to approve. I appreciate that. I'll set the um staff report into the record. Do I have any
questions or comments from the council? Hearing seeing none. Do you have a question or comments from the audience? Hearing seeing none. Um back to the council. Do I have a motion to approve for resolution G3?
Moved by council person Ward. Do I have a second? Second by Vice Mayor Martin. Madam Clerk, is that roll call for G3? Yes. Yes. Vice Mayor. Yes. Mayor,
yes. Thank you very much. Let's move on to G4. This was for the um municipal payment of village council. Um, Vice Mayor Martin, go ahead. Yes. I just wanted to pull this item just because it is such a substantial
change. I feel like uh residents should get a second opportunity to chime in and provide their thoughts. My main question is how we landed on the numbers. The first time I saw it was um part of this packet. So, just wanted to get a better idea of that.
Okay. How you doing attorney? And this is a resolution of the mayor and village council of village of public Florida adjusting municipal payments for the mayor, vice mayor and village council members providing for an updated compensation structure providing for servability providing for an effective
date. All right. So the way this uh came up and so I'm sure everybody have other questions but the way this came up was that um we've been at at the $3,000 level since 1992. And so once you look at that um and you
adjust that for today's time, it goes up to $7,000 um for the adjustment. And I was kind of looking at it not only for today's time, but since it nothing had been changed in 1992, I felt like we probably won't change this for another
20 to 30 years. So I was kind of projecting what would be a fair amount just so we could solidify it um you know into our charter. what we solidify by resolution and solidified to our charter. So then um we won't have to do it again and it probably won't be
changed for another 20 30 years like it hasn't been changed since 1992. So thinking ahead I thought that I was going to keep it at 7,000 um which was the adjustment um but I just round it up to 10,000 for the council. The way I got to the vice mayor and the mayor um
position was because I felt that the seats and the importance of the seats and the work that comes with the seats um just kind of demanded just more from it. Um, the vice mayor the vice mayor's seat I put where it was because the vice
mayor is besides the manager and besides the CFO and the mayor, the vice mayor is the only other person in the entire community that has access to the finances. the vice mayor is the only one and so that's going to put responsibility which is how I got there and then the
mayor seat I put that there because of the top responsibility and also because of the amount of hours in Elberttown you have to work to be successful as a mayor um you know for those who know you know you do have to work a minimum of 10 to
12 hour days to be successful as a mayor every single day that's because of a child's so small we don't have assistance we don't have help. We don't have those type of things. So, you do have to put that time in to be successful. Now, you could say as an individual, you can say, "Well, you know
what? I don't get paid for that. Therefore, I just won't do it." But that goes to the character of a person, right? I mean, do you really want like, you know, your city to struggle like that? Do you really want your city to, you know, fall apart because of you just
feeling like, well, I don't get paid for that. That's not my job. So that's not what I'm going to do. And so that kind of deals with like, you know, the type of person that individual is. Um, and so when you look at the amount of time, you know, since I've been mayor and like I
said, it's the only way to be successful around here. And I mean, I can start to list off a number of things since I've been mayor that uh that, you know, I've worked on and that uh the the village was going a different direction that was turned around. um you know I don't want
to embarrass too many people you know here or whatever but I could start to list those things off but being that's the case I just felt that even at that price or the the compensation for the mayor the 49 I felt that even at that
with the you know with the minimum 10 and it's it's interesting because me being with my OCD like I've kept like I've kept I've kept the notes of all all the hours that I work every single day since I've been mayor. Like I have it in
the Excel sheet for every day. And so my lowest amount um there were two days in the past five years that I worked six hours. Um that was for two days. Um and those were two separate days, two separate years. But I looked at leading up into this. I went back and looked at all my notes, looked at all my Excel
sheets and stuff like that to see all my hours that I worked. Um, the average of the time that I worked every single day, including Saturdays and Sundays, was 12 hours. My longest was 19 hours. Okay? If you guys know, whenever um, which I'm
going to start to do again, whenever hurricane season comes around, I get that pile of sand delivered. I'm the one that's here 3 in the morning, 2 in the morning, packing all the sandbags, delivering to every household who needs sand and all those type of things. So, that's just one example. There's so many different examples, but that's how I
kind of just has since got to that like I said that 49 for the amount of time um that I've worked over the past five years that's nowhere close to full time that's still part that would still be part-time and and when you broke it down
I actually worked 57 cents an hour is what I was making for the past five years 57 cents an hour at 300 And I think a lot of people just don't understand. I think part of the problem
is is that when you don't not have something, then you don't recognize what you don't have. See, there were a lot of things that were protected from this village, like in this village
that could have gone wrong. But because those things never went wrong, people don't know about it. And since people don't know about it, you don't get credit for it, but they don't understand the hard work that went into that to avoid those huge pitfalls that
could have went wrong in the village. And so I think that's a huge thing that a lot of people um just don't realize uh or don't recognize. But there there's so much more to it, but I'll leave it there and and I'll do rebuttals from the
council. I don't I don't have a rebuttal. It's kind of a complex statement. I do think you work tremendously hard. I just want to make sure that the number is right size no matter whom the mayor is. Um and this is complicated. there being a mayor
in the future that maybe doesn't have just kind of personal work ethic that you do. So, I just want to make sure the process is going in that the number is reflective of uh the larger community and and and what may be in the future beyond you
after you're mayor. Although I think you might be mayor for quite some time. Still young. But um also when I think about my thoughts about the compensation, I do recognize that there is it is time for there to be a change. Um I think
that is obated by the fact that most of the time when these seats become available, there are few people to sign up to do what we do um for the compensation that we currently receive. So something does need to be done. I think to incentivize there being some
new um ideas or new entrance people that are interested in occupying the seat. I just want to make sure that the number we land on is a number that um takes into consideration the thoughts of the community members and in addition to
that is reflective of kind of what this region um what other council members in this region are are compensated. So I didn't have an idea of whether or not um or where we fell on that spectrum. Thank
you for the input, but I'm still trying to wrap my mind around that nuance, the feeling of yes, there does need to be a change. Uh, how much of a change? Yeah, I agree with you. U Madam Vice Mayor, I think also you guys keep in
mind that um so I think one of the first things we need to do is find the floor because one thing that I was considered from the very beginning was you know was that I spoke to different individuals or whatever and everybody had great ideas. Um I was surprised that there were a lot
of residents that were like man like you guys need more you know you got like you should be getting more than that there but um but one thing that I I was thinking about uh to implement also was kind of mad to your point was whatever
we decide if we decide a floor let's say if we decide let's say let's just say for we decide the floor is 3,000 we're going to stick with the 1992 numbers or whatever we decide the floor is 3,000 if we decide that then whatever we decide if there is some type of you know budget
shortfall in the future if there is some type of thing where um the future mayor does not have the same work ethic or something like that, if there is a hurricane, there is something like that, then every year um during budget, we can reanalyze like when we do everything
else, you know, so it's not set in stone like it's been since 1992 at the 30,000. Um, we could also put something in there to where not only can we analyze it every year during budget time, um, to see how our budget looks, but we could also do something to where if there ever
is any type of emergency or something like that, we can first pull from the council payment budget down to a floor of 3,000 or 7,000. So, we can do that also. implement
something like that also which is like a stop cap. Um, so that's something else that we can do. Also, just for payment, if everybody's like, you know, payment, where is this coming? So, when I first came became mayor, um, madam manager, we didn't have any commercial permit fees
didn't exist. We have residential permit fees, um, for new structures, new building structures. We didn't have commercial permit fees. And we had uh individuals that were going to be coming in building these commercial product projects and they were going to be building them at the residential
structural permit fee level. And so for huge projects like the Kavista, hint hint, they were going to be able to build that for like the residential building permit fees of like $10,000 for that huge building. Um
we scrambled, myself and the manager, we scrambled. We did commercial permit fees, put those in place for the first time ever. And because of all that and everything came together, we just got back. We just added $77 million
of property value to Elbertal's uh property values. Visa just came through. $77 million. We have um about $1 million being added to the budget this year because of those commercial permit fees and everything being built correctly.
All right. So, like I said, there's a lot of things that, you know, we do and we've done. And the individual who did that was a named Mark Jean, who I went to college with in the University of Miami when I first came in as mayor. So,
there's a lot of things that we do that benefit us that we just don't talk about. Like, I'm not a PR person. So, when I get done with something, when something's accomplished, I'm just like, what's the next thing to do? I don't put out a pressure because I said I did this.
That's just kind of how that goes. There's a lot of other things. I mean, I can go down the list like there's some things like I said in the very beginning, I don't want to embarrass other individuals, but there's some things that um which show shine the light on some of the lack of stuff that
happens um as far as some other individuals. But I wouldn't do that to them in a public arena like that. But let's just say I work on a lot of stuff for a lot of individuals job descriptions
on consistent basis. Is there any um other questions or comments from the council? Yes. I commend you for taking the helmet. I
convene you for bringing it forth to the public. But I also need to let you know that Elertell is always seen as a small village. Matter of fact, it is the smallest village in Miami Dade County.
Notwithstanding, we have the same responsibilities as the larger cities. Keep that in mind and do your research. What the mayor is saying is for too many years this council has not done u any kind of
increase that validates the work that we put in the mayor has known me very much now all throughout because he is like he is people have never forgotten me when I was mayor when my uh counterpart at the
end came on they were very astounded about what she does at living uh for a living. It's more than just coming to the council. It's sharing forth what we're doing in the community. It's
sharing forth that it hasn't always been about the money. We have purposely kept low in terms of of of our experience here on the council. We invite you to come and
take our seat if you would so please. But at the same time be aware we're all citizens and the only thing that we're expecting is that our city is not tangled up into some kind of ridiculousness that the news is getting
a a a big shebang about. All we want to do is do the work that is necessary that that Our attorney will tell you for far too long ago what we do now was nowhere near what we
used used to do in years gone by. And he's shaking his head because he's he's been around, too. So, we thank you. If nothing else, pass the word. We could not do it without you. The mayor's comments were very rarely spoken years
gone by. We want you to be transparent. We want to be transparent. We want you to ask us question. We want you to know what district you're in. I'm over here in in where are we? You you want to over from
me, right? We are here because we want to be here. I thank you all for the telephone calls. You just have basic questions and I don't mind it. So, keep doing that. Call any of us. We all can be talked to. Call
any of us and we'll be happy. We'd be very happy to make you aware of where where we are. As far as the village manager, one of our best, my goodness, one of our best
city managers, village manager that we've ever had. And I'm not going to tell you what a biography is, but I know why we got the best that we could get. Mr. Geller and I came on together. I had no idea about
this. It was Mr. Geller, our attorney, who said, "Doc," and I wasn't even quite finished with the doctoral yet. He said, "Doc, it's your type of carefulness. They pushed me out the door. The people
that were here before, they pushed me out the door. And that's how I became what I am today. Because this is still we the people of the United States in order to do what?
Form a perfect union. Establish justice. Ensure domestic trily. Provide for the common defense. Promote the general welfare. Do ordain and establish. That's how our constitution of the United States starts out. And it's a preamble
and we follow it too. So, thank you, mayor, for giving me an opportunity to let people know it's not about the money. It's about the what what is responsible, what we have to keep in place, what we must do in order to
maintain the smallest village in Miami Day County is El Florida. Thank you all. Thank you, madam. um council person like any questions or comments from the council?
Uh sure. Just to say that um uh I've only been aware of this for a short time, but uh my first thought was just an understanding of partially why the council's uh compensation has been so
low for so long. That's mostly due to the fact that almost all responsibility in the village really does rest on the shoulders of a manager. Um the manager is certainly uh the most critical position in the village uh without a
doubt. Um uh and so um so you know over the years on the council I haven't thought too much about the compensation package other than acknowledging that it is exceptionally
low. I mean it's essentially a volunteer position uh being on the council but again because of the size of the village and my decision to join the council in the first place was for the fact that I had found a neighborhood that I didn't think I would find. Um and so Uh and so
that was motivation enough to to join the council. Um I have said for many years I wish that there would be a minimum of two people running for every seat every cycle. I think that's the way our local government becomes strongest
is by you know constant engagement and influx of new people, new ideas, new energies, all of that. So um uh I certainly have my opinions. Uh if you know me a little bit, then you know that I'm a very opinionated person. Um but I
try to stop short of uh the type of arrogance that makes me think I'm right all the time. So um so I do think that this compensation this compensation increase uh is certainly warranted for I would say the mayoral position for sure.
Um, and then it doesn't seem, you know, uh, s super extravagant. The proposals that we're talking about, they don't seem, you know, to be, uh, to be outrageous numbers. Um, and so if that does encourage more participation uh, in
the local government, then I think it's a good thing. My initial reaction was just a little bit of I understand we're trying to have this discussion now because budget season's in September. Um and then uh part of my brain is like well we should discuss this in you know
incredible detail and then for the next budget season you know have proposals ready. Um uh so I don't know exactly where I stand right now but but overall uh I think it is long time overcoming. I look it up 1992 US dollar versus two 2025 US we're
talking $229. So 129% inflation on the US dollar since 1992. Um and uh and so technically that would put us at, you know, I don't know, seven, moving from $3,000 a year up to close to seven, I guess. So uh the jump
to 10 is not uh crazy. Um and and so I would I am curious to see if this does do something to potentially uh foster some more engagement. res and uh a desire to be on a council. So, we'll see how that goes.
Thank you very much, Council Person. Anybody question? Yes, Mr. Mayor. As everyone's heard me speak before, I'm more about statistics and numbers than emotions here. And just pulling up numbers on the internet and saying
that's the percentage of how much you make or how much we've had inflation doesn't actually prove what has actually happened. So, I want to tonight about what was proposed for compensation adjustments for the council of vice and mayor. It's not about enriching ourselves. It's about aligning
compensation with realistic realities of inflation, workload, and nobody else's future. The last raise of $3,000 annually was made in 1992. So over 30 years have passed without adjustments despite exponential changes in our economy, our workload, our cost of
living. This adjustment did not calculate for 10 years. either when it was made in 1992, let alone 33 years. So, back in 1992 when the $3,000 annual council pay was set, did you know a home
cost $72,500 annually, but today that same house sells for 1.2 million. That's a $1,555% increase. Back in 1992, a dozen eggs were $49. And as of last March at Publix
and Miami Shores, it was $13 a dozen. That's a 2553% raise. In 1992, a Big Mac meal cost $1.99. And now, if you go on GrubHub, you can look it up. It's $14.19. That's a 613% increase. Even in my own
market where I look violins, you could buy a Stratavari for 610,000 in March in March of 1992. And in March of 2025, they sold for $23 million. That's a 3,669% increase. So, when we these four
categories, housing, groceries, restaurants, entertainment, we get an average increase approximately $2,98 over 38 years. This translates to a compounded inflation rate of about 9.1% per year. So using this compound rate,
if we recalculate the 1992 council pay of $3,000, we would find that in 2025 right now, it should be $67,000. $67,800 per year just to retain the same purchasing power. This figure purely
adjusts for inflation, not for the increased workload, the increased population, or the increased responsibilities. And I know the mayor is doing so many responsibilities, more than most may have to is required for smaller cities. I find myself also working extra and trying to do more for
the city than I even had time for. So though this is a smaller city, the more work the elected officials have to do um to compensate for the lack of employees assistance, the more we need to understand we're not even on the right track with the numbers that we were
given a few days ago for today's meeting. Um so but this is half the story. In 1992, Upper Tower had fewer than 200 residents. Today, with the development of the Kabista, the eight story highrise. We're coming up with projects and a coming up project of about 20 acres. We're looking at the
standard rate, which the kabista I'm using as my president example, 110 units per acre. So, we got 20 more acres about this means we got about 2,200 more residents that are going to be here in the next 5 years. This means a lot more work. This means doubling our
responsibility. So applying this population growth factor to the inflation would adjust the $60,000 800 salary to 135,600 per year in today's dollars. However, we reassure everyone I'm not requesting increase. Um $135,600
would be thoroughly accurate for the amount of extra work and the amount of inflation we're having to deal with today. So our current council salary remains at 3,000, the same as it was three decades ago. So, back in 192, after serving a full two years in the
council term, you would have $6,000. Did you know you could buy a brand new Hyundai for $6,595 in 1992? This means after two years of working on the council, you could buy a car. This is 1992. You could buy a vehicle after two years on the council. A new
one, not a used one, a new one. One, too. So, just imagine that after two years of council seller, you'd buy a car. today, you know, we can barely cover basic expenses. When I leave my work and I leave my business and I come and I do work for this, I lose more
money per per council meeting when I leave my business than I make per year. So, this is not for our financial benefits. Um, so I did more research on this and I found that other cities in Miami dates with larger populations. Um, they also have more staff, more assistance for the council. They have
offices and places they can work. Um, Miami day. Miami pays its mayors approximately $97,000 and the council $58,200 with car allowances, with personal staff, with security support, which are armed guards. And then North Miami paid the
mayor $89,80 and council members $77,910 with full staff support, travel stipens, and discretionary budgets. And of course, they have so much the work being able to take care of them. The secretary's other help compared to what a small city do to everything ourselves.
Uh Dural compensates this mayor $80,690 plus pension executive perks and the council members receive $54,310. Miami Garden pays this mayor $80,000 and council members $40,000. Meanwhile, Albert Cal is still at $3,000. And while
each council member receives $2,000 discretionary budget, we have no staff. We have no benefits. We have no support system. So despite elected officials carrying out more direct themselves due to limited staffing outsourcing services. So I'm going to make a
proposal which is a raise and it's not a gift. It is of course a correction rooted in math history and duty. But to ensure it is deserved, I propose accountability. Council members who miss regular meetings would face a 10% reduction per absence.
They would also have a a legacy rate of $3,000. So, if they miss all their meetings, they're still going to make that $3,000 that they made in 1992. But I want to encourage that everyone shows up to every meeting. But I want more than this. Additionally, I want the council members to be able to engage
more in the community. I want to see at least one town hall annually. I want to see two large scale projects and events per year put by every one of these council members and mayor that we actually bring a community into normal events and bring us together as a neighborhood. We're small enough to be
just a neighborhood. We are smaller than some of these actual HOAs. So this this way we can complete at least one town hall, one major pro project and at least two citizenf facing
events every three months. So this would ensure compensation reflects real contributions, not merely presence. The increased compensation will directly impact residents positively, equipping officials with necessary resources to enhance community engagement and governance. My proposal aims to elevate
public service, not reward inactivity. If we want dedicated, qualified leaders to run for office, we must recognize the work, time, and responsibility service truly demands. So, as part of this compensation adjustment I'm going to
propose, I'm going to propose also increasing the discretionary budget as well, because $2,000 in 1992 couldn't buy you very much. So right now that $2,000 uh if I take the same 9.1%
increase uh per year is about $45,200 annually. So this funding is strictly for public events, town halls, community engagement projects, and things necessary to run this council. And the initiative is directly benefiting residents. So this necessary tool
enables elected officials to fill the additional responsibilities together in the previous statement. so they can maintain their salaries if they're putting together community events, taking care of our community, using that fund to take care of our residents, but you need to have that
money to be able to take care of residents, which is why the discouraged budget needs to be increased with the budget of the council and mayor. So, but even with this adjust adjustment, the combined salary and budget represents less than one, I'm sorry, less than 50%
of our 1.1 million annual revenue increase we're about to have. um which preserves ample resources for infrastructure services, citizen focus while creating and maintaining a neighborly citizen friendly village. So in summary, I'm this is what I would like to make as a motion after I hear
from everyone else and we basically talk about together because obviously I probably have different ideas than others on council and of course the the village and we want to make sure we hear everyone's voice and do what's best for our village. So number one, I would want to adjust the mayor vice and council
compensation to be equal at $67,800 based on this inflation data that I've showed. I do not want to have a different price for vice mayor, mayor, and council because I do not want us to look like if I want to run for vice mayor and mayor one day, I'm trying to get a salary raise. I want you to know
that I want to do it for a community, not because of the money. Number two, increasing this um the mayor the vice mayor council discretionary budget from 2 to 45,200 to ma to actually maintain that historical 3 to2 ratio. Right now we
have a $3,000 income per year with a $2,000 discretionary budget. So it's a 3 to2 ratio. So basically these numbers I gave still with the exact same ratio so we can support public engagement. Number three, I want to establish mandatory
quarterly participation requirements for the council, the vice mayor, the mayor, that we do at least one town hall, one major project and two public facing events every three months so that we are able to keep the village active. We're not going to do this all in the last
month before budget. We're going to do it over time, giving our our citizens the ability to enjoy each other's company, enjoy each other's benefits, and have a wonderful city that works together. Um so I wanted to also um institute as
well if we were to go with something this high a 10% salary deduction for those who miss meetings 20% deduction for those who miss their quarterly requirements which could be the town halls or the different like facing events while ensuring no council person's salary falls below the legacy
rate of $3,000 per year. This also needs to be applied with that if there are emergency funds, emergency budget things that need to happen including hurricanes or some let's say emergency sick hole, it comes out of our budget first and it
goes to repair whatever needs to be done for the city first. Um so of course we still would not fall below the $3,000 per year legacy rate. And then number five would be ensure that all active elected officials, mayor, vice mayor, council persons receive the same salary
as I said in the first one. So that the discretionary budget amount upon completion of their full workload compensation should not vary by title to discourage seeking higher office solely for the purpose of pay increase. So these proposals will ensure fair compensation for service, guaranteed
accountability, and protect unexpected budget needs and provide the necessary tools for council persons to better serve our growing community. Thank you. Thank you very much, Council Person Winters. Um just let me say first uh we
can discuss the the uh the council uh payment but discretionary is not part of the resolution and the resolution was um advertised for for municipal council payment so we can't add that to the resolution right now but we can discuss that um the budget.
Um any other question from the council before I go to go? Yeah, just to clarify, council person winters, what for um for you're proposing a single compensation rate for all five council persons and what is that rate you're proposing
for all five persons? I am suggesting $67,800 rate based on the inflationary numbers that I found which does not include the amount for doubling the population. Thank you very much person. Any last questions or comments? I'll
come back to you guys. Any final question comments from the council before I go to the audience? Hearing seeing none going to the audience. If you guys have any questions or comments about this particular item, uh, come to the microphone, say your name and address for the record. The floor is yours.
Council person Brunson, I see you, my brother. I got you in the last good welfare. I I remember you wanted to come and say something. I got you in the last good welfare. You got to go. Oh, you got to come up soon. You got to go.
All right. All right. Give me a second. Give me a second. Give me a second. Good evening council northwest 89 street. Thank you for everything you guys do. Work hard to me except going as high as 60,000 for
that's totally out of pocket and we can hire two other city managers and you guys have to do nothing. So, um I I I think the city manager we have is fantastic. Uh if the number needs to go that high, maybe she consistent, but but sounds totally out of pocket to me, but
what you guys are um proposing. So, thank you say, that's that's we love you, my brother. We love you. We love you. Uh, anybody else from the audience?
Name your address for the record. Good evening, Jay Redboro, 225 Northeast 86 Street. I am all for getting you an increase. I've seen the value of the work that you have done. I do not agree with the level um um reimbursement for
each one of you. I see a tier reimbursement, mayor, vice mayor, and council. Um, not saying that you're not equal in doing your job. Um, the mayor, I recognize all the work that you have
done, bringing in those sandbags. My house is flooding right now with this rain and those sandbags from last year, they're protecting my garage right now. Okay? So, go for it. However, there's this however. Where is the budget right
now? Is that million dollars in permanent fees included in the budget right now for you to reconsider come September when you do the new calendar budget? Is that when the new reimbursement is going to come out?
Yes. Okay. Secondly, balancing the budget. And I know many residents here are new. What's going on with the hurricane reimbursement? Last time, I haven't heard about this in two, three years. The last time there was a
$400,000 loan and we are paying interest only. So, is that million dollars going to help pay for that? I have We have news on Governor. It's not paying. I know we have news on that. What I would say is you we're gonna have a whole
breakdown on that at the budget workshop which is the first Tuesday of September. Okay. All right. Come to that. You'll get everything because we're going to go through all of that. It take a long time to go through all of that. So, so I but if you want to know beforehand, just
call me and I'll I'll call you. I know that the development over here at the trailer park is not even starting yet and there's definitely good income coming there. permit fees and taxes and so forth. So, I'm all for it. Um, and I
know that the launch project is also another good return on investment. Where are we with that? I think I hear there's a lawsuit somewhere. We need to know who, where, and what. And if we win, the
individual in the file of the lawsuit should pay back the city for legal costs. Well, thank you for that. Appreciate it. Okay. And finally, I see in the manager's report that the code enforcement officer currently has
70 cases open. I would like to see an Excel spreadsheet of address that's been sanctioned, owner that's been sanctioned, individual that might have wasted our code enforcement officer's
time in filing fulous frivolous uh complaints. I will tell you my house has eight complaints. Two of them were valid which I paid my fine. Okay. But eight complaints that actually cost the city
time for code enforcement to investigate. So we would like personally and other residents that I know of. We would like to see a list of what complaints have been filed, where are we open, closed, how much you collected.
Okay. Um, and if there's any fuous uh complaints, you know, we have to get to the point of charging the individual a fee, additional revenue for the village. We're small, but I'm looking at ways of making money. That's all I have to say.
Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. And we'll have um those answers for you. I do want to say, Mr. was reimbured from the loan and you're at 100 a little bit less than 100,000 only for that loan at this point.
Right. And as for your public records request, we'll work on that and I contact you for further clarification and narrow it down a lot more. Right. What he's asking is the $100,000 that's left, can can we pay that down and get rid of it and find like and then
just close it out? That's what he's trying to ask. Which is why I've said it's a larger discussion. That's why I said we have Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Um, anyone else? Um, good and welfare state for the Mr. Brunson. I got you next video. I got
you. I pace 206. You know, I see, you know, the the need to potentially adjust compensation structure and and I definitely agree. I Omar, I know how hard you personally
work and how dedicated you are to the village of Albert. I know how nice my spouse says like in Elbert, you have to really like be hands on. Well, absolutely. And and the thing is is that I I appreciate the council,
mayor, manager role. I also appreciate sort of the size and scale of our community. But I mean, the underlying theme here all this discussion tonight so far is about revenue, right? And how can we generate more revenue? Now, I
appreciate us trying to compare our village with much larger municipalities that have a much larger tax base. Mainly, one big element of that is that they do have a much larger business community and they are paying much greater commercial taxes.
I've always advocated not only as a resident here but as a business owner that Elportal should probably do more to be friendlier to its business residents, be friendlier to its business community, to encourage businesses to start here and to locate here. We have great, you
know, uh we're at a crossroads here in Miami Date County. more people pass through here uh I think on a daily basis than than only a few other intersections especially on northeast 2nd Avenue 87 street as well as right outside our
border on Biscane Boulevard and so anything the village can do to create incentives to bring business here and um and to to do that will help increase the tax base um I do think um as we compared now we compared ourselves to DAL we
compared oursves some other I can compare us to Biscane Cart where the council draws no salary whatsoever. Okay. Um but they do provide for expenses for the council persons that are active and I do lament the fact
that we no longer have a Fourth of July barbecue here. I do lament the fact that we no longer have a Halloween block party here. Like I mean there used to be a lot more activities for the community to sort of you know uh cross-pollinate
and to you know build strength in community that just seem to have like fallen off of the calendar the radar strength. And so you know I I do advocate in terms of balance that maybe more money that is that for active council people to generate more interest
in the community as we said would probably be wise. Uh, I know Omar, you walk doortodoor in our community all the time. I think, you know, your budget should definitely be greater than somebody who doesn't. Um, you know, there's a lot to do there. And I think that, you know, there should be some
level of increase. Um, I I've never encountered $13 eggs. I was at Publix the other day. I think it was like six bucks, which is still a lot, but but I mean, for me, I I definitely want us to be reasonable. Um, and I do uh second uh
uh Jr. though I I am really concerned about some of some of the the policies of the village and how u code enforcement being executed especially against the business community. I'm concerned that you know it's an uneven
application of the rules. Then there's one particular individual in this community that seems to have the code enforcement on speed dial and filing all kinds of complaints all the time. I mean there's a cost to that. It's not just a cost to the village and code enforcement. It's a cost to the businesses. It's cost to the people
here. I mean, in the end, like, you know, if you're acting in good faith and you're doing what you're supposed to do, that's fine. But like, don't throw stones in a glass house. Okay. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you. Appreciate that, Mr. Um, before I go to Mr. Brunson, is there any last questions
or comments about this particular item from the audience? Hearing seeing none. All right, Mr. Brunson. Mr. Brunson reached out to me. come on up. Mr. Brunson reached out to me um and he said, "Mayor, I have something to say." And and he said he
reached out to the police department and for our police department, but let's do this. You're coming up and I see somebody's coming up, I believe, with you. Yeah. So, let's let's do this. Let's do this. Um do we have any last personal comments from the council about what we're going to do about the payment? You
guys have your mind made minds made up? We're pretty good. Yeah. I did have a few come back to the discussion. All right. All right. Mr. Hold on one second. He called me. Listen, hold on. Mr.
Brother called me on on what was it? Sunday morning. He was like, "Mayor." He was like, "When's the next meeting?" I was like, "Oh, it's Tuesday." And that's all it was. Like, okay, I appreciate it. former council person. He heard you just now, Jacob.
Well, good evening to the council. Good evening, Mayor. Good evening to the residents and attendees for tonight. Uh I think tonight just fell into a more appropriate night for me to be here. what I'm about to do. Uh he everything about the council as a former counselor
or bus at 70 Northwest 87 Street. uh as a former counselor and a longterm resident El Patel 35 36 40 years of being here uh I do love El you guys you know I really was surprised
to give up $3,000 you know it's still there that's that's I know so it should be an increase in that you know I don't know the right number right now but I do think at least uh as like that because you work hard. You all
work hard, you know. Uh we not full time, but we work hard, you know. And to say something about the mayor, uh what I'm about to do tonight is like a twopart. Uh this mayor of our represent us very well. We sleeping in our beds, you know, going on vacation. Uh we had
uh members of the village of El residents who passed away and I called him up last night. and uh he took out his own personal time, you know, to go around to the house and visit the family, sit with the family and attend some of the funerals
when the time was there. There's been a number of females that you reach out to a number of people they reach to me and I reach to to my uh to my men I always call my and uh even hospitalization when you hear about somebody in the hospital even myself personally I experienced
that uh going through surgery I look up and who I see my hold on hold a second hold on you you'll get across now I want to get emotional person breast
was dealing with very bad form of cancer. He didn't know I was going to show up. Wife called me. How you doing, sister? Back there. His wife called me. He was going to ring the bell. Was
finally cancer free after all the hurt and pain he went through. and I snuck into the hospital and I was right there by the bell. So when he came from the back, I was the first person that he saw and I had it on video and we both got emotional as soon as we saw each other.
And and and that's something that I'll never forget. I'll never forget that morning. It was early in the morning and I remember I was the only one sitting there and it was so early in the morning. There was nobody else there in that ward pretty much. There was nobody else in the seating area and I was sitting right there by the bell and I
can I'll never forget your face when you came out for your final checkup and I was right there and I I'll never forget that. Sorry about that. Thank you. Stand up with me. You we've been there together. He used to get over me and tell me to be quiet over there on the
sideline. The man I used to sit side by side and he said, "Hey, be quiet." I was one of those, you know. Hey, be quiet. Anyway, we got a lot of coverage and and I'm not doing this tonight because of uh what he just said about me personally. I
experienced it personally. Uh but I witnessed it personally done to other residents of the community. I also witnessed the uh police department chief. He was supposed to be here tonight, but he didn't know because he was trying to get. But anyway, uh we have officers standing
as president as well because it's not only from me, this from the chief of police. This from your uh And this is for myself as a res. I was on the council. I didn't need to. It reads I'm going to show you
I'll read off. It says, "Omomasi Nichson, PhD outstanding achievement award as the mayor and chair of the El Patel Public Safety Committee. You would be driving force in clean house and change the internal and
external environment and cultural help police department would also be a former husband. She couldn't be anybody. So you see us all the team and my attorney and my brother from Texas who came down to
help with the hide. All right. So, as uh Mayor Nichson said, in partnership with the village manager met with members of the police department individually and in a larger group to listen to the officers and bring them to sentiments of the council and the community to usher
in a positive relationship to trust after several years, several years of very low officer retention and negative working environment due to high turnover and extremely limited resources. Mayor Nichson advocated for the
fortified uh El police department where allocated funding that brought about much needed and celebrated police fleet much needed law enforcement equipment and staff and training that has brought great trains on the streets of El Patel
with mock reduction and speeding with traffic caling and speed reduction through ticketing and speed and speeds. Mix is an aid supporter of the officers, supervisors and chief men and always seeking ways to advance the small
department to become the best it can be. And as a former council member Bronson uh village man Christina and Aleandro been there. We would like to present this to you from the heart.
It looks familiar, man. But uh I want to thank you all for your time. I really appreciate it. And uh like I said, it's more deserving. You you deserve this. And the timing tonight, I just say God was in the room because I didn't know what the agenda was going to be. and then the agenda turn out what you're
talking about. Then I come up here and say let's honor this man. So thank you mayor for what you do council been there. Thank you all for what you do. We appreciate you. Love you. Thank you all. Real quick.
Somebody got more other side everybody. How about one, two, three? Hold up. You get your cookie.
Thank you guys. Hey, good thing. rest. Are you doing okay? All right. Thank you. Yes. All right. So, we're back. Want to comment you guys. One one last accolade from Mayor
Nickerson. So if you're new to Alpert or you're unaware, not only is Mayor Nickerson the mayor of the village of Alperta, he's currently also the president of the Miami Day County League of Cities. Okay, which of the 34 incorporated
municipalities in the county of, you know, millions of people, Elortal, as you heard, is the smallest village. We've had two presidents now as mayors there. But you know what that does is that shows that there's strength in numbers. And so Omar goes out and
networks with other municipalities and is able to achieve economies of scale with scarce resources. And and that was also another element of of helping the police department, you know, go from good to great here the past number of years. And so uh if you don't have
public safety, you really don't have anything. So that's why this is such an important thing and I would one word to it. Not only do we have the president of the League of Cities of all the cities. Yep. But our manager
That's right. Our manager also president and I don't remember any city ever having both at the same time the size of us. That's right. First time. first time Miami Day coming big biggest little village in El in uh
in Miami day. Thank you. Thank you very much Mr. Pace. We appreciate you. All right, going back to the council you guys. Um Council Person, I know you had a couple things you want to say real quick. Yes, sir. Well, congratulations. That was pretty a nice honor. Thank you very much.
All right. So, I just wanted to um speak on behalf of what some of the residents said. And what the first thing that's very interesting tonight is that we have amazing residents here that are at every single meeting. You know who you are. I'm looking at both of you for and
you're always here. But you guys didn't stand up to rebut it, which makes me think that maybe we're doing something right with this one. I'm not sure, but I I I thought it was very interesting that you guys remain silent and I appreciate that. I you worked hard to to put it
together. Um thank you for that. So, the first thing I want to say um was the proposal that I had originally included that um discretionary budget and as the mayor said because it wasn't on the original um email that went out or on their
website, we can't actually vote on that. So, it changes my original idea. So this proposal would be basically a full compensation level $339,000 out of the $1.1 million of additional revenue we're getting per year for the
new property and which is still going to be less than onethird of the amount of that um income coming in. So and of course if we do vote on this base salary correction it would uh it would make the financial impact even smaller. Um so
it's modest calculated investment in active accountable leadership and not luxury expenses. Um, next one was about spending the money on a manager assistant. Uh, this money is actually the way I set it up for the benefit of the residents if the residents aren't
getting the full amount of participation from the council or from the mayor there. The the council, the mayor, the vice mayor will lose the money and it will allow us to have more uh opportunities for events and ways we can use that. Um, to help out our citizens.
So, we're not choosing between leadership and service or or strengthening of uh both. But as far as the assistant for a manager, hiring an assistant sounds helpful in theory, but and but in practice, I'm not sure if the manager actually would want to share her
office space with another full-time employee as there is no space for new employees. the ghost ranger had to move into like the closet of a police station just to have an office space and there's simply no room as for what I understand. Um so I would say that this proposal
empowers already elected officials to take on the needs directly to deliver results directly with the council. Now we're not shunning her having an assistant. I just saying that I don't know if she wants to share an office with someone else.
Um uh last portion is about other cities and other municipalities and how they have a certain budget. I named five or six cities that have between 80 and $100,000 budget. They are larger cities, but these uh municipalities, these these
cities actually also have so many people underneath them, so many little cogs in the machine that are running everything. They don't have the same amount of responsibilities, yet they're still making more than I'm proposing. They're 80 90 sometimes $100,000 and they're
they basically just have to make decisions and someone else pulls them out. Um I can tell you I've met with the different residents. I've gone out to the properties. I've walked this area. I've come here. The managers kicked me off this diet saying I can't be here this often because I'm always here
working for the city. And I think that every one of these council members and vice mayor mayor work more than we actually understand that we do. So we the full-time planners, the city management
team, the assistants, the separate legal departments, you know, we we don't have that big entity, big city fuel. Uh so it's actually a reverse correlation when you're looking at the amount of work we have to do compared to the size of our city. So Albertal
do leg works um from organizing events to contacting agencies to walk into the streets of residents. So my proposal will be basically cost less than hiring even a bunch of full-time staff members and and adding more area to our staff.
And I hope I got everyone's um answered everyone's questions. Thank you. Thank you very much, Counc. Any last questions or comments from the council before I ask for a motion? Yeah, just a couple comments. Um so uh
so as I said the the ultimate responsibility for the operation of the village rests on the manager shoulders. It's a super massive responsibility. Um do not envy her in that task. Um uh and we have had our
differences. However, we do have one of the most organized, one of the most competent managers we could have truthfully. Um and um and so and so I spent one term as vice mayor
myself. Um and it's it's clear that that the order of responsibility goes manager. It's really the three charter positions. So it's manager, attorney, and clerk, right? And then we have a mayor who is unbelievably engaged with
our village. Um but the truth is uh at at a lot of points those become choices of how involved a council person, a mayor, vice mayor gets involved in everything, right? And so um uh I enjoy
it when the council comes together to discuss planning and uh things to that effect because when we get here to the council, we come up with a plan. We say, "Okay, this is what we're going to do. It's going to be infrastructure, public going to be code of enforcement, it's going to be uh
whatever it is. Um uh then there's a concerted um effort and understanding behind that effort. The manager gets to work and puts everything in place and makes it happen, right? So I do think that there I do agree with the resident that there should be a tiered uh
compensation here because the mayor regardless of how involved the mayor chooses to be, the mayor's responsibility is greater than anybody else's responsibility on the council. Um the vice mayor mayor Nickerson made an
excellent point earlier in terms of why the vice mayor even though assuming things are going well the vice mayor is not necessarily uh the person who's carrying the responsibility uh in the event that uh a responsibility to be taken care of and we do not have a
manager or the mayor uh you know fully uh capacitated to take care of that then the vice mayor suddenly becomes an incredibly important person in the village. So um so I certainly uh understand that line of thinking as well. Um,
interestingly I uh am glad like so I'm very glad for uh council person winter's illustration of uh cost versus uh you know inflationary values strictly looking at the value of the dollar
versus the cost of goods right um and uh I'm now reinforcing my beliefs tonight that uh that grieflation is a significant problem in this country trickle down economics clearly is an unbelievable failure and a joke of an
argument to make that worse. It does not. We're at 6 2,000% inflation on goods. Um when the true cost of producing them um has not has not moved. I I work in one of the most uh
be grinder for 25 years. I challenge anybody to survive in hospitality longer than six months and maintain your dignity or your home. uh you're going to find that it's incredibly hard to pay rent and you're going to find that you are in fact an invisible human being.
And so um and so uh I've been running costs uh in a kitchen uh for a bunch of years over a couple decades um in different capacities and understanding uh the wholesale cost of goods that are then turned into retail products for the
consumer. Uh a few weeks ago I asked anybody any of you work in retail and I was the only person who raised my hand. I was not asking that question to throw it in your faces that you guys don't work uh with blood, sweat, and tears. But uh it was actually to see if anybody
else is paying attention to what's going on in the economy. And that is that I sold all of my product last December. I sold it all last December. I haven't sold anything this year, guys. It's freaking July. Let me tell you, every
retail company in this country They are going to start laying off people soon because here's what happened. Your top line is sitting 25% below where it was last year. And all the executives use a year like this to reset. And all the residents of the US,
52% of the adults in this country are functionally illiterate. 52% that's a 2023 number. Functionally illiterate. That means you can have people with a college degree who still can't read a car loan. Okay, that's what functionally
illiterate means. 52% functional illiteracy in the adult population in the US. That's how we arrived at the situation we're in right now. Nobody knows anything. All right. So incredibly valuable demonstration on
grieflation. That's sterling for anyway the 10,000 for the three council person is perfectly reasonable as a start. We can have these discussions as the mayor said going on in the future. I am curious to see if
this increases the interest in the residents to join the council or not. That would be my primary goal for accomplishing this because the truth is the four of us. Okay. I'll say the three of us because again the vice mayor sits
in a position of readiness, right? The other three of us, we are we are we are part-time council persons. We are we it takes time and it takes brain space and you sit there and and you find yourself in traffic and you're just running over details about what's going to come up in
the meeting. It it does it is time consuming. It invades your brain space all the time. Uh this council is constantly present on my mind. Uh however it is a part-time position and so um and so while I would be in theory
excited about uh a a massive salary increase uh I actually agree with resident PAC's comments that we could take a lot of the money proposed for you know a massive increase for the council and get the manager additional resources in terms of assistance and things of
that effect. So as it stands right now with having little time to think about it because I've only become aware of this recently. Um I'm comfortable with the numbers proposed. I'm curious to see how it works out the next cycle if we have more interest in
people running for seats, which would be long-term benefit to the health of the local government to have more people involved, more people interested. Um and so, uh on the other hand, I'm also
fascinated by the reality that my dollar uh uh you know by my inflationary standards of 129% as far as the value of the dollar against the inflationary cost of goods is certainly something that we should all be reflecting on almost on a
daily basis. Thank you council person. Appreciate it. Any other questions or comments from the council question? like the mayor. Um, thank you very much for your kind words to the council to support me
getting an assistant at some point. Um, I don't care if I have to share the office as long as substantive help substantive, not somebody that's making copies and staple papers, but I appreciate your, you know, consideration and I support your, you know, your
Thank you. Thank you very much, Madam Manager. Um any other question or comments before ask for a motion? Um Vice Mayor Martin, um I'll put in a stipulation that we review the council uh statement every budget. That that would be that would be
amazing. And similarly to Councilman, I I really hope this incentivizes more robust participation, new voices, new ideas coming forward. Um hopefully that does it because this is a tough job and we are all definitely more than we are
getting um paid for. Um so I I don't want my questions to diminish that. That is definitely a fact. Um yeah, and that's that's that would be great if you could add that. Absolutely. Uh any last personal comments before I
ask for a motion? And to be clear, this is a motion on F5 ased, not motion on F5 as presented with uh the inclusion of the stipulation that every budget season will review to see if we're going to raise or whatever.
And this is to take place starting October 2025. Is that right? Oh, it's the new G5. Yeah. Just final question. This is so uh in the event that this would passed tonight that the the new conversation would begin in October 2025.
The new conversation would begin uh next month, August. Okay. Okay. So, so back to one of the original questions then regarding the the monies from the east because what we did in what we already accomplished
tonight in the u uh in the u second All right. I'll get Okay. In the consent agenda, what we accomplished already tonight in the consent agenda is to put
the monies in the general fund. That's automatic ahead ahead of any required approval that would be needed in the budget process of September. Absolutely. Is that correct? That's correct. There is no necessary approval beyond what we've already
approved tonight in the consent agenda to have that money be in the general fund. Is that what it says councilman? That's correct. Very good. Transferred. Now again, the money is used for lawful purposes, right? The purpose specified, but
there's there's plenty of purposes. What I'm trying to discover is is the money going to be there in August or do we need to wait until Can you explain so nobody gets confused you guys? Let me explain. The Kabista development funds are moving
into the general council as of the close of this. It's already done. As a matter of fact, once the resolution passed, it was done. We're also getting an additional million dollars to the budget because of the $77 million property assessment that has now come onto the
books of Alberta on top of the 700,000 of Kabista development. So that additional will budget. Exactly. So there's our Okay. Yeah. No, I wasn't trying to be confusing. I was trying to be
clarifying. Do I have I'd like to make an amended motion. Well, there there's no motion yet. So, a motion amending from the original document that was given out the original. What's the new G4? I believe it was right. You moved it to a
G G4. It's the new G4. So, G4 municipal payment of village. village council. Um, and your motion is what? Uh, so I'm going to move that the we adopt the following compensation performance structure for all the elected officials, mayor, vice mayor, council persons. Uh, compensation
adjustment increase the annual compensation for all active elected officials, mayor, vice mayor, council persons from 3,00 to 67,800 based on the verified since 1992. not taking into fact that the population is
doubling which would increase that even more. Number two, quarterly participation requirements require all active officials all active all active officials to complete the following each quarter. One town hall, I'm sorry, all
complete the following at least once per each quarter for the whole year. one town hall, one major project and two public facing events minimum. So these must be evenly distributed
throughout the year to ensure continuous continuous public engagement. Number three, accountability and deductions. Apply 10% salary deduction for missing regular council meetings. Apply 20% deduction for missing quarterly participation requirements. The no
official salary shall ever fall below the $3,000 legacy rate. Number four, emergency budget clause. In the event of a catastrophic or unforeseen budget shortfall, any necessary reduction shall first be applied to the compensation and
discretion budgets of the mayor, vice mayor, and council person before considering custom essential services. And of course number five is equal compensation across our roles to ensure that upon full completion of all requirements. All active elected officials, mayor, vice mayor and council
person receive equal compensation in discretionary budget amount. Sorry, not equal compensations. This is to discourage titlebased pay incentives and encourage service based leadership. So we're not trying to get into a position just for the pay.
That's it. All right. So, we have a motion by Council Person Winters. Um, do we have a second? It's going once. Going twice. We got a second for council person's motion. It's going twice. Last time. Third time.
Do we got a second for person's motion? God forward. I'm trying to figure out what don't do something. Uh I made stipulations so that the elected officials are constantly involved in our community. So if you do not do within every quarter
which includes a town hall, a major project or a public facing event. The mayor does his Christmas event or we do an October event or Halloween or we do a fourth of July barbecue like we said earlier. Basically requirements that you have to do an event every quarter. Every one of these five
officials does a event every quarter. We have five events every three months getting our neighbors actively involved. And then accountability on that that if you don't do it, you're going to have reduction in the salary. And this way by the end, if you actually didn't do
everything you're supposed to, you get a negative salary. But I made a $3,000 cap because that's what it was in 92. Thank you. I just want to hear it twice. You can't say that they didn't understand what you were saying. Either do it what you're saying. Either do this
or don't do this. monkey around. I'll go back to the second ash for the second for couns. Okay. Moved by council person like Ward. So it was moved by council person winters. It was second by council person like Ward. Um this is for counter
council person winters is um motion. Uh madam clerk may please have roll call please. Roll call. Yes. Council person. Yes. Council person.
No. Vice Mayor Martin. No mayor neighbor. Read your read your conditions again one more time. The conditions are compensation I mean sorry participation
requirements every 3 months or quarter you're required to perform one either town hall major project or public facing events with a minimum requirement per year of four events but it's not limited to four
you can do more than four events number next one is going to be accountability and deductions. For missing a regular council meeting, a 10% salary deduction is taken from that amount. For not performing one of your
quarterly duties of bring the neighbors together is a 20% salary deduction amount, but no official shall receive a rate below $3,000 per year if they miss all of these requirements.
Next is the emergency budget clause which in a catastrophic or unforeseen budget shortfall any necessary reduction shall first be applied to the compensation and discretionary budgets uh sorry first
apply to the compensation amount of the mayor vice mayor and council persons before considering essential service. Didn't mean to say budgets because we're not talking about budgets today. And of course the last one would be uh equal compensation among all elected
officials. So there is no uh it does not encourage uh getting better place in office through use of money but rather through the character of yourself and how much you want to give to the community. Just do a quick point of order for number one. The one where you said
having the events and things like that. You first originally spoke about that and I know I have my book coming up. You first spoke about that considering discretionary raising up, but now that we're not discussing that, so would this still be in place regardless of discretionary remains the same or not?
Let's just say that most events you can do, you can do on a small budget. Okay? And we've done that before. And of course, town halls can be done inside of this area without having to pay rental fees as long as we're doing something for the community. It would be nice to have larger events by having a budget,
but since we don't have that, we can do smaller events which still work with the community. And so part of your argument be that with I mean this level of compensation, the discretionary really have to change. You should be able to take it out of this level of compensation if this level
compensation would pass. Anyway, I am understanding that that we're saying to take it out of the compensation. I think though your town hall and your major project should still come out of your discretionary fund. But if you are lacking or not able to
fulfill one every three months, then it will come out of your personal um salary so that you're keeping actively involved. When when you mean major um project like what like what what do you mean by major project? Because if there's a major like
Westminster is major and if there's not enough projects to go around then the person if they can't find a major project and they get punished for that. Is there another type of um project you would like to use as in this place? Well, what consider what would you consider a major project? Like so
everybody has to do a major project once a quarter. Well, we have a lot of citizens that go out and take canoes and they will go and pick up trash in the river. It's a project, right? Okay. Um there's I think the word major was the one throwing me, but I what you're saying.
Okay. But something to be involved with the community um or something that benefits the community is what we want. It doesn't have to be public facing event as long as you're taking care of it. Like when uh our vice mayor was collecting diapers for the kids that needed them. These are a major project
that you need to take care of other people or people in your neighborhood. So taking on a responsibility whether it's facing or not facing. All right. Um No. No. She's there. She's just waiting
for me to say hi. because I'm just I'm torn. Um is outside the box a little bit. Um, good to go. intentionally still. What is your belief in the legal aspect of that?
Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm just trying. And my question is, is that for any purpose? someone's illused or just unexpect. Would you propose that we allow a PTO game?
I'm not anything you propose or your colleagues propose. I'm simply trying to clarify what the proposal is and when it applies. I think the one council meeting a month should easily be taken care of. is an emergency like a valid emergency. I
think that can be excused. You know, if you're in the hospital for some medical emergency, you got a car accident. Obviously, these are valid reasons. We should always um include emergencies um in that.
All right. So, um changed from that proposal. Yeah, I know. But unfortunately, Um, all right. Um, what's in question is the conditions he's putting. No, no. I mean, he has the conditions
and they're in No, no. Yeah, they're kind of Yeah, they were kind of discussing it. I'm just I'm I'm personally torn. Um, I'm going to make a vote right now within 20 seconds. Um right now uh I'll just the last thing I'll say is Council Person Winters this
could be an innovative idea that may work but it could be a huge debacle and there's a lot of money involved. Would you want to something? So, no, I was just going to say the good thing about this, I think, is the good thing
about government is is that if this seems to go in a way where it's like it's not working out for whatever plethora of reasons,
I will definitely bring this back for a future resolution to do a new resolution for sure. Um, with that being said, Kobe, um, yes. All right, you guys. Uh, madame manager,
your report amended the original proposal. You have to vote on it as So we're voting on the amend a amended per portion of G5 offered to the original. So we're voting that through for the amendment.
Voted for the amendment. You have to vote on the matter on the matter as amended. All right. So we're going to do I have a motion for the matter as amended. Second. Moved by council person like foot war. Second by council person winters. M clerk. Roll call for the actual motion.
Council person Winters. Yes. person. I can't hear her. She said yes. She said yes. Oh, okay. Council person. No. Vice Mayor.
No. Mayor Nickerson. Yes. Um I have um legislative ended and the village was successful in
obtaining $187,000 in nonmatching one time appropriation for the village of El Hotel Police Department renovation. My initial request was for $900,000 that we um I guess be happy that we had
in place in the um in the budget. And so we will be utilizing $187,000 to try to reconfigure some office space in the police department. We're happy about that. in September, Senator Chevron Jones will
be giving a presentation. I'm sure he'll talk more about that. I do want to alert everyone that um the village's green route to school phase three project is alive and active again. It was on pause for the past two years, but through your efforts this evening with passing the
resolution that allows for the um the planting of 80 trees along the west side for our green walk to school phase three. This um project has been going on since 2014 and we've um planted trees over the course of several several
years. Um but as we move forward, we didn't have that opportunity for the last two years because of a government or county contractor, but now we're back in business and we're happy to have those done and we will have those done by November. Um we have fixed successfully fixed a road hazard at
Northwest 86th Street. Was came out to fix that warming um break that was on Northwest 90 or 86th Street and that was a light for us and a problem over the last five months. But due to the efforts of Mayor Nickerson and the police chief
and the police officers and I mean almost every department um just trying to get some help, we we were able to address that and that was here today. As you notice, our top lot is under renovation already. Um we're hopeful and aiming for a reopening with brand new um
play amenities for our residents and visitors um hopefully by the beginning of September. Um the nature park is open. Uh the exercise equipment has been installed installed successfully and it is ready for all residents and visitors
who are ready to start their fitness routine outdoors. Uh the horseman middle school safety roundabout will uh we'll start our project again. That was an item that passed today where we selected our contractor roadway uh construction and uh we will be getting started on
that. That project is slated to be completed by December. And um we uh have a lot of different things going on in the village. There's always something, but um we we keep moving. Um we keep grinding and um we're
um we'll be reaching out to everyone very soon with budget uh proposal from myself and the um chief financial officer um to discuss priorities. But do know that we're going to pretty much stay conservative um as we have um due
to um recommendations or requirements I should say from our independent auditors. So we'll be having you can check out my July 2025 village manager report on the village website. If you ever have any questions you always feel
free to email me or call me. That concludes my report. Thank you very much madam manager. You guys see um part of my report there if you have any questions. Everybody has my contact information. Attorney Ger reports. Nothing to answer. Thank you. Very good. Last answer any questions.
Thank you very much. Last bit in welfare. This is the time where anybody can talk about anything at all. Oh, Council Person Winters in the beginning you had something to say about herbicides, but any residents can come up right now and say your name and address for the record. You can discuss anything at all. George Alvarez at 165 Northwest 88th
Street. I probably would have gotten up to speak a little bit earlier had that amendment to these proposed pay increase not been made. So, uh I'm not attorney Geller. He is knowledgeable. I am not the mayor who is
both knowledgeable and very hardworking and deserving of a raise honestly and you all are. However, the process that I just saw, you guys just gave yourselves
what's 70* 53,000 $330,000 on an amended proposal that was noticed to us a few days ago in a different form. I don't
recall it being talked about in a budget committee in an appropriations discussion setting. You know, every time a municipality spends a lot of money, it's either already in their code, in their charter for a certain official to
do so. It's usually our, in this case, our very competent city manager, also very hardworking, noticed. why we're not why we're not using a third party to
assess what the values should be. Like there was a system in what the mayor said. I can't disagree with it. I don't know. Maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong. I do I can guess you deserve something, especially from 3K.
Perhaps Council Person Winter's math was correct. There are a couple points that I would disagree on, uh, including the eggs. But that needs to be vetted by professionals. When we talk about massive expenditures
and in our money that needs to go through a process and not willy-nilly approved on a rainy Tuesday night and added to on some other proposal. Now, apparently the fact that
it was done means that it was legal to do so. Congratulations. El Patel has been outsmarted by El Patel. So I would like and I you know I I I I guess I could
call attorney Geller. I guess I could call you, Mr. Mayor, to find out why this did not go through a budget committee meeting. When is our last budget committee meeting? When did we have a budget committee meeting that discussed a
significant raise from 3,000 to nearly 70,000 a year? Elertell already has I believe it is the second or third highest millage rate in Miami Dade County. Property tax from the Kavista building.
We're spending it already. I I have real trouble with what just happened here tonight. I think and I'm hoping that maybe one of you will join me.
I think we need to put forth whether it is a a villagewide referendum or a proposal a cogent and even proposal in the same way we we did we did so with Mrs. Campbell's variance
where we now, for lack of a better word, um, undo what was just done by the council. So, I would urge all of you to look into your hearts. I know you work hard. I know you guys deserve more than 3K a year,
but let's not get involved into sophistry when we compare ourselves with Aventura of 80,000 residents or North Miami of over 120,000 residents. There is a reason Elcartell is Elertel.
Our needs are smaller. And while we are growing and why we should be growing and should be embracing development and planning for the future, we need to do this in an even-handed way. The same way that we should not burden our streets
with multifamily developments on Northeast 90th Street with no sewers. We should not be overburdening our taxpayers. You guys are going to vote on a military increase, right? That's how this works.
The point still stands. So, I I appreciate the work you guys do, but I hope that one of you, because I'll reach out to all of you, will consider writing some legislation, for the lack of a better word. I apologize to anybody
who's been to law school. This should have a far more thoroughly vetted public forum. This should have a third party, probably a publicly vetted third party to make decisions like this. Our tax
base is barely over $2 million and we just spent nearly 400,000 of it. Sir, I hate to interrupt, but justformational for you, say you're going to reach out to everyone, but according to Robert's
rules, when a motion is passed, in order for it to be reconsidered, the motion, any motion for recon, doesn't mean it has to be, but if someone chooses to bring one, it can only be brought by someone on the
prevailing side of the motion. People who voted against the motion don't get to say, "I still think we should think about this again." Correct. It has to be brought. I app I appreciate that, Attorney. Thank you so much. Guides you in
conducting whatever you're going to do. Everybody deserves a raise around here. Everybody's very knowledgeable and works very hard. I think we got to do this a better way. I think the citizens deserve that. So, talk soon. Thank you guys. Thank you. Just add that a motion for consideration
is can be brought at the same meeting or the immediately following meeting. However, that's not to say that what the mayor said is not also correct because just because you adopt something doesn't mean whether it's formally reconsidered
or not. the topic is always live to come to come back and and look at again and that can be brought by anybody. So just just to clarify I I will probably reach out to you as
well attorney if you don't mind because uh this is I I am not as savvy as this process requires but I mean ju to your point this is not just a resolution that we
can put a resolution upon a resolution it's a multitude of resolutions some of the things that council person winters mentioned How do we enforce them? Are we going to hire an ombbudsman? Are we going to are we going to get are we going to get the code enforcement
person, a code enforcement assistant to make sure that every council member is putting forth their best efforts? And how can we prove that a a a group of canoes is somehow in the best interest,
just to borrow the canoe phrase, of the residents of Elcartel. I mean, we will be canoeing down streets that don't have sewers. Thank you for your time. I I have a comment. Uh you're you're not
wrong. You're you're definitely not wrong. Uh I think what happens tonight is part of the reason why sometimes people find local government very frustrating. Um, and when you're reaching out and you're sending all those emails and when you're telling the story, I do want you to
accurately reflect what happened. The Councilman Winters is the one that proposed this outsized number um that differed greatly from what it was that was published. and I want you to also memorialize the fact that Councilman Erdom and myself,
although there's definitely a benefit in it for us, we said no because in some way we understand that um what happened tonight didn't necessarily feel right and the process that you're proposing is what I was hearkening to when I said
there should be an increase, but what is the increase? It should be a process that is of involving our CFO and involving our residents to come up with what that number is. I do not know why Councilman Winters came up with $67,000 and so
vehemently um drove the discussion towards that number towards the end when initially we were trying to vote on the item as it appeared. But I hope you and all of your residents and friends that you can speak to can approach Councilman Winters and find out what the source was
for that that number that he put forth. So I do want you to accurately reflect this the record. And in addition to that, I want you to know that not everybody on this day is is self-interested. Not everybody on this day is is only thinking about that number. Some of us are thinking about
the process. And I think the process matters. I've been proud of a lot of work that we've done in Alport and a lot of the things we've done here have been really really good things that drive our community forward. This is the first night that it has given me pause my membership in this body. Um so I do want
that reflected on the record. Although there is obviously a benefit, it is not one that I voted for to receive and neither did Councilman or Thank you very much Mad Vice Mayor. Anyone else from the council?
We're still a good welfare, right? Uh yes. Yes. So, um so I just want to remind everybody that um you need to find out who the white people are in your lives and figure out what side of everything they're on. All right? If anybody wants
to learn 50 jokes about murdering black people, uh you can come talk to me. I learned them all by the time I was 10. Uh we have a real serious problem here. And not the least of which is we have a governor Santis, who's a coward, who used the imminent domain, okay, to take
land from Miami date county and put a freaking torture prison in the middle of the Everglades. So, uh, I'm excited that my property values are going up right now, but I see a cliff in front of
everything in this country, and we are headed right off of it. So, do not forget for even half a moment that you have a governor right now who's willing to take land, take property. All right, so that's happening right
now. Great news. Um, Florida continues to be the laughing stock of the country. Um, I hope there's enough billionaire uh immigrants, I guess, uh to support the economy here in Miami, but um I have
great concerns for the future economy of the state. Uh it's uh I worked 20 summers in Miami. 20. All right. More. And uh this is different. This is different.
Everyone's Oh, it's summer. It's slow. It's summer. It's slow. It's summer. It's slow. Let me explain something, guys. There's never been a summer like this. We usually rely on European tourists of one sort or another to bolster the economy through the summer months.
They're not coming. It's partially to do with the dollar to euro exchange rate, but it's more to do with the fact that nobody from outside this country wants anything to do with this country right now. Uh that's the that's the larger part of it. Okay. So, uh so there's
still going to be billionaires and want to be billionaires flushing cash down the toilet in Miami date county, parking money in real estate, uh using it as a savings account. So, uh you know, I hold a real estate license. I'll be fine. Um, I'm going to keep making money in real
estate for time in Memorial here in Miami Day County. But the average person living and working in Miami Day County, there's no there's no hope in sight. We're prospectless um until things change. So, you guys need to figure out who the white people
are in your lives and understand exactly where they're at in this situation. And don't take it with a grain of salt of the governor who is a coward. Uh, absolutely. domain land from the county you live in to build a torture prison. So,
all right. So, I'd like to address concerns from earlier. So, the first thing is the eggs. I've heard two people speak about I did thorough research on everything I gave tonight. I did all by numbers, not by motion. The $13 per dozen figure comes from a nationwide
survey reported by Business Insider in March 25. Write it down. So you can go look it up. I'm not making up stuff. So business cider in March 25 using data rapper data collected from major grocery stores across found the highest recorded price was exactly $13 at Fukco. This
means that it was on local guests. It was a verified national high. So this is a real world data I'm working with here. Next thing when I came up with this 9.1% it wasn't just pulling out random numbers. We looked at both restaurants, we looked at groceries, we looked at a
vehicle cost $6,000. We looked at all these different percentage and I came up with 9.1% per year. So if this was 1993, would you be standing up here and saying, "Well, you guys want to got a $27 raise? That was 9.1%. How dare you?"
Well, no. This is 33 years later without one raise. Nothing is happening to council. You know, it's not going to even stand for next 10 years. 10 years from now, that price is going to be over $100,000. But we're not going to be there. There might be another 10, 20, 30 years before they make another move on this council. We are basically just
keeping up with inflation. If I actually wanted to go with the route that I think it's worth, I think we're at $130,000 because we're doubling our population. We're doubling the amount of work. But I'm not going to suggested I always suggested that we went with the amount where the inflation is currently at.
again and no other municipality is doing this like this that I know of where you're basically sticking it to the council people and the mayor and the vice mayor and say you got to be openly involved in your community or you're going to get deductions and I think this is very important and I'm glad it passed
because it's basically to create a precedent for the rest of the country to say hey look up Alport did this and those people that are just getting into government for a paycheck or to become a lobbyist beware because you need to be involved in your city. So this is where we came to the this is where I came and
I presented the counseling. I spoke 15 minutes because I spent the last four days since I got this resolution working on it. My wife said, "Where am I? Where are you?" I'm like, "Every single day I wake up, I worked on this project. I went to sleep with it in my hands." So we came to this place and it it passed 3
to two. So it was a very close call. But are we looking at something above the rest of the cities? Are we looking over 80,000 in Miami? Are we looking over 89,000 in in North Miami. Are we looking over these other cities that are making more? No, we're we're we're below that
price still. So, I hope you understand that we're not doing this for any other reason that we're trying to promote um engagement with the community and hopefully this will allow that to happen. Anybody else?
There are multiple ways to promote civic engagement that don't involve this much of an increase. And I think it's it's disingenuous and I think it is not a good and honest place to start to make it appear as though the only reason why
this was proposed tonight was in some way to benefit the residents because I'm sure if we put our heads together around $300,000 we can think of community spaces. We could think of maybe hiring an events
firm to talk about the events that we want executed. And we signed up for the $3,000, right? We signed up for this job and ran with it as $3,000. I I think that if you want to have an honest conversation,
it's a good it's a good idea to start from an honest place that doesn't insult people's intelligence. Um, and that's my last comments on it. My last Council person Winters, I don't know if you want to respond that, but I'm
council person. I'm George Alvarez, 165 Northwest 88 Street. Council person Winter's numbers may be accurate. They may be numbers that a third party, a qualified,
a third party accounting agency who deals with municipal law says, "Oh, this is perfectly reasonable." They may also says that you know what, eggs were $13 a dozen. They may do that. I didn't see it. You guys can ask
yourselves internally if you saw eggs at 13,000 or 13. You know what I'm saying? 13 13 bucks a dozen regularly could be. You might be right. In fact, all of you guys probably could be
counted on coming up with a pretty excellent system, a pretty good accounting rubric by which you could come up with a number and say that your work is worth that number. So, Council Person Winters,
your numbers may very well be right, but I find it extremely hard to believe that this was something that was just because you know what? We didn't hear anything about this. This was not noticed. And and Council Person Winters,
you spoke indeed for at least 15 minutes with all kinds of information, all sorts of facts that none of us could check in the moment. and you're a smart guy and I don't doubt that you had your best intentions in doing so. But I find it
very hard to believe that one council person just heard about this and another council person came up with 20 minutes of information about why you guys should get a $67,000 a year raise.
How come one council person didn't really know this was happening tonight and other council people had an extremely wellprepared justification for a raise that the residents of El Patel
didn't hear a damn thing about and then other council people had to kind of weigh the options on the fly. Look, politics is hard. You guys have hard jobs and you deserve to be compensated adequately for them. But this is a slap
in the face to the residents of Albertell. This is $350,000. I don't know. Is this also going to go into Florida state pension funds? Are we going to be paying 20% on top of that? So, it's not just $350,000. Let's add 40%
to your pension funds. That's great. Maybe you guys deserve it. I don't know how it works. But the point is every member of El Patel should hear what the numbers are and those numbers include whatever revenue we're supposed to get
from uh the Kabista. And let's face it, the flow buildings, Adam Newman's flow buildings, when are they going to get a seabell? 10 years from now. There's no sewers over there. There's no electric over there. There's no roads
over there. Adam Newman cannot flush his toilet unless we get involved and pay for the infrastructure for that. And then eventually with the help of hopefully Miami Dade County,
then eventually he'll get a co and then maybe we'll get some revenue. I may not know how everything works, but I know how a couple things work. So I'm going to put I'm going to put you out of your misery right now. And I mean that in the kindest, gentlest way,
but I do think that this process is fat. Spanish translation, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, council. Thank you very much, All right. So, let me just say a couple things. First of all, so when um when any new property is going over there, they're going to tie to the sewage that's from this cane. Same way the Kisa Apartments did. They
tied it to the sewage from Biscane and brought it down 83rd. And he's even closer because he's right on this cane. So he'll have no problem in bringing that sewage right right from the street right in front of him. So we don't have to provide him with sewage. He's going to he's going to just tie right there right next door to him right this game.
He's just going to bring it into his property. Same way brought it all the way down from this game all the way down 83rd for the visa. So we don't have to do anything for that. Um I don't disagree with you but what I will say is that a couple of things. When you say if
it wasn't noticed, it went out to everyone on Friday. Noticed like everything else, like everything else was noticed like every other like you know, Miss Georgette's um you know, item and everything else over here was noticed. It was all noticed amendment. Not the amendment.
No, I understand what you're saying. But but the item was noticed. It was just amended within. It's the same way like So let me just say this and I understand what you're saying. Like I said, I don't disagree with you, but it's the same way. The reason why it's different is because
it's a big shock. There's a lot of money involved and I'm still not easy with that. I'm going back over my mind. But well, then I'll work with you about next next. I got you. But but but as far as but I I don't want the narrative to get out
there that amendments on resolutions is something that was just created now. When Miss Geette first came with her thing, she came and then Congress Winter said, "Oh, I have roofing materials. Oh, we can do so we adjusted it in real
time." So, it all things are usually adjusted, but it's just that this thing was so big that this adjustment is something that stands out. But things are always adjusted with conditions. We pass things with conditions all the time. from what the resolution is when
it's first advertised, and it first goes out, it comes to us. Whether it's a new site, a new home, a new site theme, whether whatever the resolution is, we we pass things with adjustments all the time. Varants did go to planning and zoning
and it was vetted by our third party. First, first of all, first of all, no, I got you. No, you're good. One second. Once again, turn this. Turn in a second. But let me just say this. Yes, it did.
Because for anything that's like a site plan or roof bear and stuff like that, it has to go through planning zones in our charter under compensation reimbursement for expenses. Says council
person shall receive annual compensation in amount in in an amount prescribed. That's the first line of the resolution that it doesn't say that it has to be done in like a certain format the way
that our building department says if you come for roof variance you have to submit to the corino group you have to go through planning and zoning committee you have to for anything where it comes to council compensation
it's through resolution agenda item it's through annual compensation in amount prescribed. The council shall receive compensation or reimbursement in accordance with applicable law or as may otherwise be provided for authorized
travel and predeem also for reimbursement incurred and performance of their official duties. So, and that's what it says. So, so it just has to be so like any other resolution or any other uh agenda item. It has to be, you
know, put out there on the Thursday or Friday or whatever. This is going to be on the thing for a meeting and then it comes and gets presented as a meeting. I don't disagree with you about the amendment and I'm still uneasy about it. I probably I'm probably one you should
talk to. You'll agree with me that it was easier to approve $400,000 $440,000 in yearly compensation and pension to yourselves than it was to get a roof on Mrs.
M. I should leave. You're good. You're good. You're good. You can say look, people people get upset with me all the time. Um, what I'm telling you is is that for the
process, the process wasn't done legally. And I think that's where I kind of just want to get across. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. All right. Okay. Anybody else? Oh, go ahead.
Just again, for the record, what has to be noticed is a topic. The idea that something is going to be discussed and a topic is coming up
that must be noticed. So anyone interested in the topic knows that they have to come talk about the fact that amendments are speaking generally. I want to be clear issue
generally the fact that amendments to the topic on notice that it doesn't necessarily have to pass exactly to that particular one
is supposed to be understood that's considered public Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I'm certainly not commenting. I do not comment on the wisdom of what the council does. The council makes it decisions based on their wisdom. That's
why they're just trying to set out parameters and guidelines act. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Anybody else? I'd like to address some of those. information.
First, there was no page. This was on the consent agenda. It did go out to community ahead of time. The community who read the page saw that it was there. They knew that there was going to be discussion on it. It is not our job to go to the door and knock on and say, "Hey, did you know we're going to do this today?" It was sent out to
everyone. Okay. The first important point, this is not on the fly. Second is that um you mentioned a pension over and over again. There is no I don't get a pension. These guys don't get a pension. We don't get a car allowance. The other
cities get car. We don't get secret. We don't get anything extra point in the mail. You will find it in the mail. It is a program specifically for the council members here.
How much? I don't know. I'm not an accountant, so I don't know like the details of what the uh contribution is. The last statement I read, I'm not I'm not going to I have my statements. I can bring them in so you can at least calculate the percentage, but I mean it's it's a
nominal percentage in terms of in terms of contribution from the village, but there is a contribution from the village in addition to uh monies uh that are set aside from uh our compensation into a
would be considered a pension account. manager, mayor, or lawyer. It's the It's the FRS for retirement. I'm sorry. What did I say? I said FPS. What? Yeah. F. One of you uh tell me what this is. I am
not familiar with it. I can tell you that including not staffed officials including statements, right? And I don't have your
I don't know. I have no recollection on this. Office shut now. All right. Anybody else? Seeing none, the uh council meeting for
Tuesday, July 22nd, 2025. Oh, do I have a motion to adjourn? No, I have one more. Okay, go ahead. So, as the mound um has had no um long service for a few months, it turned into
a Chiaet uh very fully grown and we had it cut down again back to normal height and we had some residents were completely against it as the lawnmowers cut too
close to the Indian um habitat sites where they were buried and dug up some of the dirt. But of things that the residents told me is that there are these big bald spots around each tree of just patches of dirt. And he said that they were spraying something around the
dirt. And of course in our um we have a policy here that says we're not allowed to have herbicides. Is correct? No. Pesticides. Pesticides. Okay. And that and that prohibition is for
a third party vendor, a commercial contractor who would be performing work for the village essentially on village right away or village property. Residents do not have the same prohibition and I'm sorry
in 2021 we passed the a program called the integrated pest management program to eliminate or pesticide herbicide applications on building properties to the maximum maximum fee. So we did pass that and
when I issued the RFP for um lawn services and maintenance and aroused um our landscaping firm that's bringing paradise
only the certificate for our um this is a herbicide is out of necessity to control landscaping and weeding which is required. We do need the um where possible it is used countywide. It is
approved by the state and it is also approved under our MS4 MPT that's a national discharge uh system that we are required to report on monthly quarterly and
it is allowable items in order to manage. So grass is very difficult to grow in shed for as we already know this mound is built 90% of weeds and using weed killers and they left very large bald
spots on the mound. I would like to request that the landscaping just stop her in the ms. If it doesn't go back to it let's give it some time to come back to life. I can certainly make that request. Thank you.
That's no problem. Thank you very much. Anybody else? Do I have a motion to adjurnn? So move. Moved by Vice Mayor Martin. Do I have a second? Second. Second by council person. All say I. All say nay. Hearing
none. The weather council meeting for Tuesday, July 22nd, 2025 is adjourned at 9:20 p.m.