We're going to go ahead and get ready to get started. It's good to see everybody here. All right. The regular council meeting for Tuesday, July 28th, 2026 is called to order in one minute. 7 o'clock. There we So,
it's called to order at 7:00 p.m. We're going to first have a moment of silent meditation followed by the pledge of elite allegiance to the flag of nation andice for all.
Thank you very much, madam clall, please. >> Roll call. Mayor Nickerson, >> here. >> Vice Mayor Martin is not here. Council person Urban >> present. >> Council person Lifewood Ward is not here. Council person Winters, >> present. >> Also present. For the record, Janice Jacobe, village clerk. Um, village
manager David Roseman is not in and Joseph Geller is here. >> Perfect. Perfect. Um, for the agenda, the only thing I want to do is if nobody if people don't mind because we do have some young visitors here and you know they can get restless
after a while and we do have a visitor from from the state of Florida here. So, I just want to do the acknowledgements first and then we'll move back to good and welfare. Um, if everybody agrees, do I have a motion to approve the agenda? But we're we're also um
we're not going to address the agenda item with the mis print of the the street. >> Oh, we'll get to that when we Yeah. Yeah, I got you. >> Um motion to approve the agenda. >> That's proposed. So moved. >> All right. Moved by uh Council Person Urban. Second.
>> Second. >> Second by Council Person Winters. All in favor say I. >> I. Oppose say nay. Hearing none. All right you guys. So, we're going to move right now to acknowledgement of visitors of special presentations. So, I'm g step down here real quick and then
I'm going to ask my colleagues to join me in a second. All right. So, um, not the last meeting, but the meeting previous to that, uh, did something huge. You guys know that, um, when I was
redoing the the former tot lot, um, when I first started, so it was, it took me about a year to get it all together. So, when I first started doing it, uh, and you guys know it was no taxpayer dollars. So when I was first going through to get the funding and everything, they were asking me for the
name and so I kept saying Albertal Tatlot and they were like that doesn't exist and so I started to look into it and I was like oh the word Elbertal Tatlot does not exist and as a matter of fact if you Google Albert Tot right now the Miami Shores Tot pops up. So, I
said, "We've never really officially had a name." And then I said, "It's a brand new park." And I said, "Eventually one day, you know, um, I want to have a, you know, a a peacock park or a large park." And so, I was just chilling. I was like,
"Man, you know what? Like, this needs a name." And so, then I happened to run into my friend here. [laughter] How you doing? And he was like, "You know what? my son Miguel, like he calls it, him and his friend call it the Peacock Park. I said, I was thinking
about the same name and when I said it to him, I just kind of threw it out there. I said, "Yeah, man." I said, "I need to find a name for this place." I said, "Like a, you know, Peacock Park or something." He was like, "My son and his friend, they've always called it the Peacock Park." I know Counc
also. So, I said, "That's perfect." I said, "Hopefully one day we get a large park, right?" And so tot lot is little tots, right? So it's kind of like the small type of little type of, you know, feeling about that. So let me keep it little. So we called the little peacock park with the foresight that one day
we'll have a main peacock park somewhere. But I just wanted to acknowledge that we did pass that through resolution. Um it is getting sent out so that hopefully pretty soon when you Google Albertal Peacock Park, it pops up. Um, but I have two
individuals who kind of like, you know, in a way telepathically kind of helped El Patel move forward and come up with that name. So, I have my friend Miguel and I have my friend Frederrico. How you
guys doing? Y'all good? [laughter] So, this what we going to do. You guys want to come up here real quick and and your parents going to come in a second, but you guys going to come up here real quick. And the first thing you're going to do because your parents are going to love this, you're going to come up here and take a really, really quick picture.
And I'm going to show you guys I have some goodies for you. So come up here. Follow me. Follow Mayor Omar. Come here. Come here. Come here. All the parents want this. Trust me. So this is what we're going to do first. We're going to have both of y'all stand back here. You stand here
and you stand here. What we going to do? All right. There we go. So you you you sit there. You stand here. We're gonna have you hold this. Hold it up. All right. And we're gonna have you say say
hi. >> Very good. And now we going to have you you're going to hit this because one day you're going to be a leader in your community. So hit that really hard. Boom. There you go. That's right. Say, "It is law." >> It is law. >> That's right. It is law. Miguel, come here. Stand up. This is what you're
going to do. You're going to stand up and you're going to hit that hard. Say, "It is law." >> It is a law. >> IT IS A LAW, YOU GUYS. ELBERT, LITTLE PEACOCK PARK. It is a law is the new name. Come back here. Follow Mayor Omar. Come on, man. I have some goodies for
you guys and then we'll take some pictures, you guys. So, the first thing, you guys can take whatever you want. First thing I have for you all, I have these peacock peacock
really nice and really really cool. That's the first thing. Look at this. I have so I have these and if you want you guys take your choice and you can hang them in your room or something.
Lay them all out for you. You take your choice which you want. Okay. And I know because I know I was doing both my friends Miguel and Fedico. So I brought both one might one that's what I wanted. They have so many different choices.
>> So many different choices. >> You like that one. What your parents can do. They can nail it into the wall in your room. You can just hang it up. So easy to hang up. Just add it in. It's just so easy. Just hang it up. Right. That's all you got to do
here. I got a couple more for you. Like I said, you're going to pick whichever one you want these down here. Now, I have a really nice surprise for you. >> Really, really cool. Really, really cool.
And then I got these here. These are my little things they can group in their room. So I have two of those right. I have these two things here. Okay. And then I have this here. Right. We're going to put that over
there. Miguel. And then look what I have for you. This is good. This is what you guys are going to love the most. First of all, I have these little peacock toys. I don't know where they came from, but they're peacock toys. So, that's good. Got two of those. But look at this. This is the coolest thing ever,
>> right? >> Zox shirts are kind of long. I These are extra small, so you'll grow into them. But they're little peacock shirts. So, you guys are all this stuff is for you. First, we're going to take some pictures with your parents, right? because they're gonna want some pictures and
then you can pick and take whatever you want. All right, >> so let's do this. Let's get some pictures. >> You guys can come up and take pictures. >> Wow, this is so [laughter] picture here. Let her hold something.
She can hold something, too. >> Hold that. Congratulations. >> Very good. Good. Good stuff. Good stuff. Thank you guys. You guys take whatever you want. All right. Go ahead and take whatever you want.
>> Take whatever you want. Thank you so much. >> I appreciate you all. >> I appreciate you. >> Take care. Thank you. I'll see you. See you later. All right. Good stuff. Good stuff. Congratulations. I appreciate you guys.
Take care. Have a good night. >> All right. Get some rest, you guys. You guys take care. Thank you for coming. >> Thank you. Next up, you guys, we have a legislative update from the state of Florida. This is Representative D. Joseph office. We have the one and only, the one and only
district aid, Miss Alexis Fox is here, and she's going to come up and give us an update from Tallahassee. >> Somebody's fine. >> Oh, yes. >> Of course. Thank you. Okay. Good evening, mayor, council persons,
clerk, and attorney, as well as the constituencies here in the count in the village of El Portell. My name is Alexis Fox. I am the district aid for your state representative, Dy Joseph, here in district 108. Uh on behalf of her office, I'm here to share with you all
some of the bills that have been passed during the most recent session uh for the state. First being the Real Affordable Housing Relief Act, also known as HB1493. This addresses all of the housing costs by limiting larger scale corporate
ownership, expanding workforces, protecting renters, and giving local governments more tools to preserve affordable housing. The Healthy Florida Act HB1 1489 and 1491 protects patients from harmful medical debt and creates a
framework and funding for comprehensive healthc care coverage. Uh clearly Elportal loves the kids. And so there is some news about a K through2 school lunches and breakfast program through HB1501 which expands access to school
meals and prohibits the use of thirdparty debt collectors for unpaid meal costs. uh where there was also approval of a data center facility uh HB1517 which requires greater transparency about data centers their impact on the
water energy and local infrastructures as well as the environment both before and after approval and these were all bills that were filed this session by our state rep. The other bills that were filed this session include local government financial transparency and
accountability through HB1 1329 which requires the cities and counties including Elportal to make more budget information available online where applicable and hold public budget workshops follow new rules when setting any impact fees. Official actions of
local governments. The anti-Dei bill was also uh prohibit cities and counties from using public funds or taking official action to support any kind of anti- diversity, equity, and inclusion programming, which also allows for
residents to sue local governments in any violation of the local uh authority. There's also a local government cyber security bill uh bill 1085 which creates state programming that provides cyber
security tools, services, and grants to help local governments protect computer systems and residents information from any cyber attacks or hacks. If you have any questions or want more information about these bills, please feel free to
contact our office. Our phone number is 305-5645060 and we are located right up the street here at the North Miami CRA. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. I'm going to repeat that number real quick one time. So yes, >> the number is 305645060.
>> Thank you very much and thank Representative Dy Joseph for us and I know she has bigger things that she's she's moving towards also. So so congratulations to her. Appreciate that. Okay. Thank you very much, uh, Mrs. Fox. Appreciate that. All right, you guys. Um, so we're going to move to Good and
Welfare. Good and welfare. This is time right here. Um, any residents, anybody from the audience, you have anything to say, you can come up three minutes, say your name and address for the record. >> Hello. Good evening. Thomas Pium, 205 Northeast 86 Street. Um I beyond uh
three minutes that I have prepared to deliver. I also have um a formal uh one sheet handout to enter into the public record as well. Um how do I do that? I don't see the manager or the clerk. >> Um when just hand it onto the put it here for the clerk. As soon as she walks
back in, she's here. She'll take it and it will be made part of the public records. >> Okay. and and just a copy is sufficient. >> Just said a copy is sufficient. >> It's a copy for for the council, yourself, the manager.
>> What is it? One or is it multiple? >> There's 10 copies to be distributed. >> Okay. So, the clerk will hand them around, but it's it's be entered into the public record since you put it on the clerk statement. >> Yes. Okay, great. Thank you all. Um,
so here we are. Um, as we know within our nation, here in the United States, public office is a public trust. It carries a duty to exercise the law, respect constitutional rights, and carry out the lawful directives of this elected body. My family fought and gave
their lives defending the Constitution, which is why it is deeply disappointing to stand before my local government and face retaliation for exercising my First Amendment right, a total lack of government due process, as well as administrative indifference, stonewalling, and disrespect from the
administration and executive office. On June 23rd, this council unanimously voted 50-0 to stay enforcement, identify my property as is for 35 days, and ordered an administrative audit report due tonight, July 28th. As of the
opening of tonight's meeting, that report was not provided in advance for public or permit holder review. And whether administration attempts to present a surprise report tonight or a failed or has failed to produce one altogether, know this. Any legitimate
audit must evaluate all governing milestones on file, not selective excerpts. The timeline on file demonstrates clear operational breakdown. Back last year, August 26, 2025, the standard was set where our official building inspector,
Leonardo Lori, documented upon final inspection that closing non-structural permit PB25-00004 required just any photos or construction document that may be available per the building official. Then the very next day, August 27th, 2025, those directives
were ignored and changed when Pedro Martinez demanded new engineering studies. And then former manager Lou on that same day explicitly directed CAP government to review all permit approvals and stay in close communication with me to resolve permit
closure without delay. CAP ignored that order, culminating in an April 2026 total demolition demand issued by Pedro Martinez to my email address off the books. Now, June 23rd and June uh 24th, there was portal tampering that
occurred. A provisional inspector listing the name Jose Negron refused credentials at the inspection. Less than 24 hours after the legislaturator's 50-0 stay order, those portal records were altered and an incident is now under
active criminal investigation by the Miami Dade Sheriff's Sheriff's Office. You can note case number PCS-26024. Um, then on July 22nd, just a few days ago, there was another unauthorized intrusion. So, and another unidentified
CAP contractor entered deep into my private property, passed no trespassing signs at 1:59 p.m. on a Wednesday. We all know the building department doesn't operate on Wednesdays. They operate on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This is clearly outside cap schedule um of Elportal
inspection days. Um then just following that and also today on July 28th, uh official on the books record contradiction. Today, Franco Roman emailed claiming that cap that the CAP contractor who was present
on July 22nd was there just to ask a question about landscaping while claiming no records exist of this visit because no inspection was scheduled. Staff then assessed a $75 fee demand under chapter 119 to disclose
these persons identity after admitting staff spoke directly with them. Florida Chapter 119 and federal uh statute 42 uh 1983. Those statutes carry mandatory statutory free uh fee shifting
for legal exposure that unfortunately exposes our tiny town's treasury to heavy taxpayer funded legal fees. I am in no way asking for the building code to be overruled. I'm simply asking to enforce the village's own written inspection record. I respectfully ask a
member of this council to make a motion tonight to direct the village man manager to administratively resolve and close non-structural permit PB25-004 by Friday July 31st based on the completed August 26 2025 submittal
standard. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Next Excuse me, miss. I need I'm addressing your Are you leaving?
>> Yeah, because she you she she'll she'll stay for you, but she she gave the number and the contact information for for questions, but but she'll stay for you, Miss Brooks. >> Okay. My name is Marilyn Brooks, 400 Northeast 90th Street.
I'm a longtime resident of this area and was has been very active. Now that I'm getting older, I kind of has calmed down. However, I'm hearing about Daddy Joseph.
I don't the first time I'm hearing about her is now. And as to seeing her, you don't see her. How come she is a part of this village and she doesn't come around nor comes to represent her? We have
streets here where I live that needs to be fixed for the longest. Where is she? My question is when are we going to get Elertel looking like some place where we pay taxes for and live?
>> Is is that it? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> It's a question I asked. I don't know who's going to give me the answer. >> You all know during good and welfare everybody speaks then we respond.
All right. >> Hi everyone. >> How you doing? >> Okay. Edna Edman uh 301 Northeast 88 Street. And first the first thing I want to say is uh this is Marilyn Brooks's birthday today.
>> Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday Ms. Brooks. Happy birthday to you. >> Exactly.
>> She's 35. >> No, 21. >> 21. >> Yeah. >> Just got legal. >> Yeah. Anyway, I I just have a few questions and then a comment. Um I I'm I've been wondering about amendment
three. Um, and if the village and I I guess the village manager um is undergoing any kind of analysis to see what kind of revenue we're going to lose um and if any contingency plans are are underway. >> We'll respond.
>> Yeah, you'll respond. Okay, respond. Um, is there an ETA for the septic to sewer conversion? I'm also imagining that's going to be impacted by loss of revenue potentially for Miami Dade. Um, and then something that I emailed you about. I
mean, why is there a special meeting this week? It's hard enough for a lot of people to come once um twice in one week. Um, and why can't we talk about the military tonight? Um, is really another question. Um, I looked at the
agenda for tonight and I'm wondering about the decision making process uh for streets that receive drainage. Um, improvements. I mean, how how is that done? I mean, for the last few days, I actually lived in waterfront property.
Uh, I looked out my windows and there was a lake in front of my house. Um, so, you know, really wondering how how you decide um what streets are approached first. Um, and then, um, just
to follow Thomas Bull, I had an interesting experience also. I just had a code question for the building department. I emailed, I called, no response. Um, and it just it it it really says something about um
accountability and transparency uh of the village um in in an in a really unpleasant way. I mean, is there a a special formula to get someone to call you back? Um, so I, you know, I had to read the code
myself and it's really confusing. Um, so hopefully someone can get back to me. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Good evening, Denise White, 173 Northwest 88 Street. Um, first of all, lots has happened. Um,
so the other day, um, Mr. Mr. Mayor was kind of [music] wait y'all. I'mma let the spirits I think the spirits want to talk tonight. Um Mr. Mayor took me to a fabulous meeting with the coalition. Um Miami date coalition I think it was called.
Yes. Beautiful meeting and there they talked about this tax. Go ahead y'all. [laughter] Y'all done? Right. So, um, yeah, and they talked about this the the new tax bill that's coming up, the one that says that
they're going to take property tax off or some property tax off and whatever. And, um, I hope Mr. Mayor speaks on that and explains. They had lawyers there speaking about that the language was very ambiguous. So, we should read this
bill before we get to the polls um so that we understand that what we're what we're voting for because we vote might vote yes and not completely understand the ramifications of that and how that affects us because yes, it would be nice
for me not to pay my property tax, but property tax pay for so much in Florida so that when I don't pay my property tax, I know they going to get the money somewhere. Yeah. Somehow. So, um, but there is there at that meeting there was
some people that were suing for that because of the language for the governor or the government to now give us more clear language. So, I hope the mayor speaks more deeply on that for me, please. Um, that would be important for us because and the fact that if we don't
have property taxes, we may not have El Portal. I I have questions about that. Will will Elportal disappear because we're not having property tax? And then if we disappear, are we do we now belong to Miami Dade County? And how does that
work for us? Do we even have a voice? Oh, anyway, that's just that just sounds like a whole lot. So, I would hope that my mayor please speak on that. Um, then I want to thank the mayor. I had a Elpertal let's unite the um the citizens
thing and I I think I'm gonna do better on my advertisement next time because I don't think I got to a whole lot. Although I want to thank my mayor because apparently I could thank the mayor if I want to y'all. Um what you call it? Apparently,
he goes door to door to send information to us. And I think he go door tod door by himself when he walks every single house in every single building. I hope that, you know, there would be a procedure where maybe you could get some
of us, hey, I drop off for your street and then I will, you know, do that street and Mr. Danny said that. He said he would do his street. I don't know. Mr. Mayor, let's make a chain or something so that you don't got to be >> Oh, it's in my time up. That's crazy.
Well, well, yeah. I I think we should try and fix that. I'm sorry you weren't there, Mr. Urban. Mr. Mr. That that that man over there. Oh, he was there all night long. Thank you very much for coming and giving your your all to Elortal and the residents. If you
didn't come, don't worry. I think we just [music] >> I don't know what's happening. >> If you don't want us to meet to talk, maybe I should sit down cuz maybe there's lightning. Anyway, um so I want to thank everybody who came. We had a really good time and while we were
there, I think we planned that we might want to do that again so that you could get to know your neighbors, you know, love on each other a little bit. There was no politics talking, but I know it was a little bit tough, but that's okay. We had a great time anyway. We hope that you guys could come next time. And um
Oh, the sewer thing. I'm not sure. How do we get the money for that? I got questions about that. How we get the money for that? because I know that Adam Newman guy, he wanted to do sewers. So, I want to know that we got the money from somewhere else other than that man. Mr. Mayor, you maybe you could talk on that tonight, too. Anyway, I think I'm done. I don't think I have anything
more. And if I I do, maybe I'll come back at at the end. Bye. >> Good evening, everyone. Ian McKenzie, 8950 Northeast 4th Avenue. Good evening, council members and Mr. Mayor. Uh on Wednesday, June 24th, I sent an
email requesting on the freedom of information a copy of the current fiscal year operating budget. Fiscal year to date include all items, budgeted revenue, expenses, actualized, realized revenue sources, realized expenses for this operating budget this year that
we're in. As you all recall, we did have a budget that was passed and quickly tweaked at the last minute because of the reduction in the millillage rate, but um and that was submitted. However, we have no idea how we're doing
financially. I sit I've sat on three boards in my lifetime so far. I've never had it where I've been in the dark about budget items or anything like that as a board member. I hope you guys are getting some of the
board uh the the uh budget information because we don't and we should. It's not a secret. The only thing is that I know that when you don't get budget information, something is hiding and prove me wrong,
you know. But um it's June 24th request came in and um Yiani responded uh saying she acknowledged it and um so I I just don't want to go further but it it's just like you know we need to have uh
some transparency and um I really would appreciate that. I think that's really important. We shouldn't be making any financial decisions on anything until we know. I mean, here we have the millage rate coming up on Thursday. That's really important. We need to know where
we are, where we stand. Um, you know, uh, now I just found out section 13.29, I think it is, where they're talking about budget transparency or making Yeah. So, I'm really glad I heard about that. Um, but, you know, if I don't get
something soon, I'm going to state of Florida or I'm going higher up. I mean, it's just like, you know, this is ridiculous. We can't do this. We're paying for an accountant. You know, there should be a a report every every month. Where's the village manager? I mean, granted, he may be
sick. Okay, fine. But, you know, you know, he's brand new here and we need some we need representation. We're paying these salaries. Yi is the only person who's ever here reliably and Mr. Geller and when he's not here, he sends
somebody else. So, you know, we're we need people to represent us and to be here and working. So, that's what what I have to say. Thank you very much, everyone. >> Thank you, >> Mayor. Uh, not as a response, but if I might,
mayor, just for one moment, just as a matter of information to the audience, so we don't get the same question repeated. the uh Thursday is only to set the proposed millage
rate. It is not only not the final, it's not even really the the projected or interim. That is the maximum that the village could charge. Couldn't go over that, but the council has the privilege
of lowering it to meet the budget. And last year for instance that is exactly what was done. So just because you have to do that and submit it to comply with the law uh to so that no one has the
same question. This is a very preliminary step and it's just to set a maximum rate and generate the so-called trim notice that everyone receives in the mail with the information on two public budget hearings that'll be held
during the month of September. So, I just wanted to clarify that so we don't end up with the same question. Mayor, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, that was in my that was in my answer. I appreciate it. Um, Mr. Pace, >> hi. Good evening. Uh Noel Pace uh 206 Northwest 91st Street. Uh just a a
couple of things in terms of public comment. So uh we just held the Miami Day County Military Affairs Board meeting on Monday at the Steven B. Clark Center and I wanted to mention to you that, you know, there's a lot of activity now, especially with the 250th
uh birthday and a renewed emphasis on military veterans and their family members here in Miami Day County where I said we have over 150,000. And so, uh, with that, I recently became the chair of the Miami Day, uh, County Bar Association's new military and veterans
committee. And so, we have over 3,500 lawyers in that organization. And we're going to be focused on trying to, uh, help veterans within the community. Um, you know, there's a lot of, uh, veterans that have, you know, whatever if either it's medical or family law or some
other, you know, type issue. uh getting a veteran back their driver's license is a very important thing for them to become employed. Uh a lot of veterans lose their uh driver's license over child support issues actually. Um in addition uh there are some veterans with immigration issues. I know that may
sound odd. Um but uh people who are not American citizens can join the US military. In fact, when I was a commander in Korea, I had kids from 17 different countries that were in the US Army. And so that is a quick pathway to citizenship for them. You sign on the dotted line. You dedicate, you know, up
to your life, okay, on the dotted line uh in support of our country and uh citizenship usually results. But for whatever reason, sometimes that paperwork doesn't get done correctly. Uh something happens and so uh there are people there and so we want to help
them. Obviously, there should be no uh debate on on their uh uh immigration status. Uh lastly, I um want to talk uh a little bit. So that's that's what's going on in military affairs here in Miami Day County um in terms of uh uh
Elportal and um the Raider Church property. So maybe you guys didn't see it, but uh we shared a lot on uh on WhatsApp uh this weekend uh but some uh sail uh uh uh tail kites, which are
giant raptor type birds. We initially thought that they were eagles because they have a a white head and sort of a dark body as as they mature. There were three large uh uh sail tail kites which are uh they're considered, you know, in the hawk species, but they're large
hawks. Uh they were sitting right on the um power lines at the old Raider Church property and they were hunting there. Uh and so it's great to have those great birds. If you didn't know, we're a state of Florida bird sanctuary here. uh that open clear area now has been attracting
a lot of wildlife and uh and I thought it was just great because I I'm not really sure if we have any clarification on what's happening with that. Again, I strongly encourage that this council consider, you know, uh uh some some options. I don't know if you saw in the
news, but the University of Miami, which wants to do some development in Coral Gables, uh has property and they are trading it to the uh Coral Gables uh community uh in um in exchange for some density uh variances and some uh
building uh uh variances. Uh and so it's going to be the largest park in Coral Gables now. Uh and that's going to be open space uh there in Coral Gables in return for some construction of dormitories uh a hospital and some other things on other University of Miami
property. So I had proposed that before. That's something to definitely consider. I think that open space there you know Elportal's main street park would be a great you know addition. It will give us parody with Miami Shores and Biscane Park. Uh and obviously you know there's
just less and less green space everywhere. I mean, I don't know if you guys have driven down through Windwood and so on. I mean, it's not as it used to be. So, just something to consider. Hopefully, uh, that can work out well. And, uh, thanks for your attention. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. Greg Steer, 120 Northwest 86th Street. First, I want to say that just for the record that criticism isn't necessarily inherently negative, and mine is not meant to be. It's meant to be constructive. There is a point to all this. I'm not just up here griping.
These issues are important. It's just it's frustrating to come up here and ask the same questions over and over again and not get any responses or adequate ones. So, uh, for example, the budget. I brought this up twice before. We're 10 months
into the fiscal budget. Not a single update. We were promised at the last meeting that there would be an update in a flyer. Never got it. I asked a simple question. How much money is in the unassigned general fund, the rainy day fund? No answer. I asked about the
Florida state mandated budget audit that was due June 30th and wasn't filed. Again, no answer. My understanding is we are now officially out of compliance. And that's a big red flag with the state auditor.
We should already be discussing next year's budget. Miami Shores has already had two workshops, one in April and another one last week. And now I just found out that ours are scheduled just an hour ago for September. The the budget starts in October. Why are we
meeting in September? We should be meeting now. We don't know what we've spent or what we haven't spent since October 1st of 2025. So, I'd love to hear from the village manager who's not here or the CFO who is
here, Mr. Tobinfeld. Um, regarding the budget. Uh, number two about Raider Church and property taxes. Just to clarify, those property taxes were not paid, at least not by Adam Newman. As of April
1st, they were delinquent. A 3% penalty was imposed. And then on June 1st, the county auctioned it off as a tax certificate to any investor willing to pay the tax. And that's what happened with Raider Church. Adam Newman didn't pay a dime of
the $100,000 that he owes the county, some of which, as you know, goes to the village that he allegedly loves so much. Meanwhile, he paid $44 million for his home in Bal Harbor.
That says something. Again, the village, the council, and the mayor should be very careful about doing business with a guy who has a kind who has a very shaky and very public track record. It's a path littered with broken promises, unfulfilled goals, and unpaid
debts. Lastly, I just want to mention the sewer. Apparently, some residents were informed about a new septic to sewer project again via flyer, which seems to be the semiofficial channel of communication these days. I didn't
receive one, but I understand it's being touted as a major accomplishment since it's something the village has been discussing for 10 years or more. But surprisingly, few details were included considering how impactful that might be. There's no timeline. There's no specific
location. There's no project name. There's no ID. There's nothing about costs. Why wouldn't something like that be posted on the village website? And wouldn't a project that big fall under the purview of the village manager? Who's paying for this? And who does it
benefit? Again, many questions, not many answers. Thank you. >> Thank you. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council, council men this evening. My name is George Alvarez. I live at 165
Northwest 88th Street. I have a couple questions. Um, [clears throat] it has already been asked, but I'm going to piggyback on Mrs. Edelman's uh question about the newly um announced
septic to sewer project when will it start? Uh, under what official opaces of Miami Dade County have the funds and the legislation been authored and
authorized? Uh, and what will be the first part of Eltel? That's the that's the question everybody wants to know. what will be the first part of Elpertell to uh have ground broken in uh for any one of the
lines so that we could get a start. So, I'm going to ask that you guys uh share that answer tonight as best as you can. Um secondly, I got to give you guys Mr. Mayor deserves big props and he was out there in the rain. I saw him. Uh, I just
want to give props for getting on the budget and the millillage a little bit early. Uh, back last year we talked millillage in September. So, I appreciate you guys getting on this right now. I'm eager to see how it goes
uh in the next few days and see where things are going. Um, so I I I appreciate that very much. Um thirdly, the uh um amendment three uh talking about homestead exemption. Again, props to Mrs. Zelman. Um what are we going to
do to not only um start planning in a loss of revenue? Where will those planned losses of revenue be initially pencled? Obviously, this is going to be a work in progress and everybody's going to have their work cut out. But I'm
asking you, will you please make transparent and start to announce sooner than later where the cuts to what departments may happen? if they are going to happen. And if they're not going to happen, I would
like you guys to address whether or not there will be any conversation about special assessments or perhaps proposed bond issues and on what grounds and in what departments of our lives here in
Alpertell would those assessments or any such bond issue go. I know I'm putting the cart before the horse a little bit, but I think it's really good for everybody on this day and all of our chartered officials to start talking about that now because those of us out
there, we will for sure. Um, fourthly, I'm hoping that our city attorney can reach out to other city attorneys and find out what other lawsuits any lawsuits that are going on in any
municipality in Florida, especially ones with with residents under 20,000 residents to see where we may join any lawsuit where home rule may be restored. Uh, I'm not going to stand up here. I
reported >> I I I I I know you did, but there are there are there are more being reported. I don't know if they've been filed. We'll fair enough. And we can always talk offline about that. Uh and I'm hoping that the city manager is not here right now, but the city manager can be
talking to other managers about the same. This is about planning. This is about looking into the future. Um I'm hoping that uh at at some point perhaps on this meeting or or or one of the next meetings that you will share
the state if there's been any change in the state of uh have there been any changes in applications for the soulful proposal? Have there been any applications or changes in applications or any information uh about uh proposals
at Little Farm? And if so, to echo Mr. Pace's great idea, the idea of maintaining green space in South Florida, I mean, talk about an oil well. I mean, green space is going to be the new money maker in terms of property
values. There's a lot of academic research about that. And I appreciate everybody on the stasis has had a a a a focus on trees and canopy, but I got to call you guys out because I think we can do better than what we've already done.
Baby steps, baby steps, baby steps. >> Thank Thank you, Lord. Uh fifthly, regarding Soulful tangentially, um taking a walk on the alley that is uh parallel to Northeast 2nd Avenue and
there are spray painted uh marks indicating boring locations. Uh the representatives of Soulful did mention that they would ideally like to bore a sewer not along Second Avenue because Second Avenue
involves the state of Florida as well as the Miami date county whereas the alley nearby does not. So do you guys know anything about that? That in a way is a uh is is is a piggyback on on well on any number of those questions.
So, I hope uh I'll be around if you need a reminder, but thank you very much for your time and I look forward to the answer. >> Thank you. >> Next. Good welfare. Next good and welfare. >> Hello. Good evening. My name is Juliana
Colinger, 8650 Northeast Miami Court, Elportal. Um, I just wanted to, um, first of all say hello. Um, I haven't been here in a couple of months, but I definitely wanted to just, um, make everyone aware that I'm still in very full support of anything in Elportal
that helps our canopy, that helps our green spaces, that helps our trees, our bees, our butterflies. Um, I am enjoying this summer right now so much. my my my trees are in bloom and I'm seeing all the bees around. I'm seeing all the birds around and it's very exciting to
me and that is one of the reasons I moved to Elportal. So, when I hear um Mr. Pace talk about any kind of uh agreements or negotiations or anything that we have to do with um the property at the Old Raider Church, I would love
to see a park there. I am full support of that. Um, I I just want to make sure our council also understands this and are able to support and and look at our point of view of of why we love Elportal and try to continue to keep it like
this. I hear all the time about all these developments developments in our area uh south of us, north of us, east of us, west of us, all of them are taking apart what is the most amazing thing about South Florida. And um if there's something we can do in this
little part of the world um will make a difference and I think in in the overall it will also increase our property values um and and would be just a benefit for everyone. Thank you. >> Thank you. Hi there, Ashley Luchio, 127 Northeast
98 Street. Um, I just want to um so regarding the Homestead exemption increase, potential increase happening um with the next election. Um, I just want to hear from you all to help
kind of level set what I think is a lot of fear mongering happening around that and um how it might impact us, right? And you know, as our council members, we look to you to to give us kind of a
higher level advisory or opinion or, you know, guidance um on what you think may happen with Alport. Um word on the street, I'm hearing from quite a few people the fears are that we may go unincorporated because we're going to
lose so much money. we may end up being absorbed by Miami Shores and Biscane Park. You know, this is kind of the word on the street. So, and then there's, you know, of course, we're going to lose our police force, we're going to lose our infrastructure, we don't even have infrastructure, like what's going to
happen, right? So, I think just whenever there's a lack of information, just as you know, we've experienced before with things like Radar Church and and Soulful and all that. Um, you know, we really need to hear from you guys and to know
what are you thinking through about these potential cuts and what could it potentially mean for us. That's it. Thanks. Good evening. Uh Daniel Roas, 60 Northeast 86 Street. Um, so I guess I'm
going to pick it back on a lot of the things that were already mentioned. Uh, with regards to the announcement that there was some, uh, funding uh, secured for the sewage, I think along with all our neighbors, I'm very excited at the prospect of improving uh, the water
quality for the bay for everybody. It would be a good cleanup. However, I would like to know a lot more details. Uh this actually extends to the other sewer project that I believe we're going to be starting discussing today. Uh I was looking through
uh the information provided for today and there doesn't seem to be much details on the actual project itself and there seems to be uh more that needs to be disclosed. So, I would really appreciate more uh [snorts] more clarity on how those things are going to be uh
achieved and uh whether or not we're going to take this opportunity with the sewage to also maybe make sure that we have better drainage on our streets as they're going to have to dig up a lot of the streets. It sounds like it would be a ginormous project. So, we might as well see what we can do to improve other
areas of our village that need uh improving. Um, [clears throat] I also wanted to mention uh I'm very happy to hear how many of our neighbors are are are have growing interest in our canopy and our trees and
and protecting them and also protecting our our our bird sanctuary status. And I I talked to one of my neighbors the other day and they had a they had an owl box on a tree. However, there was a light a
street light that was lighting right above it really brightly at night. So there was no way an owl would probably you know make that their home. Uh and I know I've heard also and I've seen how the new project with the roundabout is
getting some uh very bright lighting. Is there any way that we can take a look at how we can implement some kind of u policy as it pertains to the the brightness of or the color of the lights so that it is better for our birds in
our bird sanctuary. And last [clears throat] but not least, I wanted to also mention um we had discussed the tree ordinance. Uh I kind of wanted to see if we can come right around and see where we stand
with that, how what we can do to make that move forward. And uh that's about it for me. Thank you so much, gentlemen. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Uh good evening. [clears throat] My name is Warner Dreer. I'm at 486 Northeast 87th Street. So, just to Peggy uh on the
discussion uh our neighbor Danny had on the runabout. I just want to bring up to you guys the roundabout here on 87th Street. Three lights, power lights are off, right? And there's another few on the street. So, I sent an email to the
manager to as well Mayor Nickerson. I spoke with Mr. Simpson as well. Uh so, we greatly appreciate it if there be some sort of update perhaps during the next meeting. um or what should we do as residents? Contact uh somebody as far as
bringing up those lights back up on the runabout on 87th Street. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Next for good and welfare. Good and welfare going once. We'll allow you to come up but it's usually only one time miss per per
person but come on come on make it let's make it quick >> I just want to ask a question actually um so Edna Edman >> just say your address for the record >> yeah Edna Edelman 301 Northeast 88th Street apologies for coming up again um it was on my list we have a giant hole
um on Northeast 88th and and Northeast Third. Um I mean, we neighbors are actually contemplating buying a bucket of patch um and and fixing it ourselves. Um and it's it's just gotten wider. I actually landed in it today with my very
large car. Um so I'd like to know if that's going to be fixed anytime soon. Thank you. Anybody else getting good in welfare? >> Going once, going twice. >> Okay. So, we're going to have
Miss Fox respond to Miss Brooks. Um, and then she can she can >> Thank you, Mayor. Miss Brooks, thank you and happy birthday. I do want to thank you for being so direct and so transparent and for showing up on your
birthday because you care so much about the city in which you reside. Um, and I do hear your frustration loud and clear. And while the rep was unable to be here today, I am here for that very reason. because while she may not have been as
present as you all may like, she does understand and value this community uh as I do as her district aid. I don't live very far from here. I live in North Miami and um if anybody's familiar with North Miami, you know that we are no stranger to coming and going
constituencies and leadership. So, what I while I cannot speak directly to the streets, um, as your council probably very much appreciates, what I would like to do before I leave today is give you my direct contact information as well as
taking yours so that I can set up a call for you and the rep directly to address the issues specifically. And again, when I first came up here, I gave that number very genuinely. Um, not just as a part of the protocol
of giving a legislative update, but because we do care about every aspect of this district and we want you all to know that while we may not physically be here, you can still reach us. Okay. So, thank you for your time and I appreciate all of you for using your voices and
using this time uh wisely. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you, A Fox. appreciate that. Take care. Have a great evening. Thank you. All right, you guys. Okay, so um so moving in. So when you're talking about the property tax, uh when I was at the
event with um with Miss White, we had individuals come up and speak about the property tax situation and I I think I even said to Miss White that evening, I said, um >> who spoke about it? It was different uh like lawyers and attorneys and representatives. >> But representing who though?
>> They were they were representing both sides. Like they were just lawyers talking about the property tax and talking about potential lawsuits coming up. It was just in general they weren't like lobbying for either side. But um it's forformational purposes for
that purpose. Uh I even mentioned I believe to Miss White that evening I said um that's I said those are individuals that I've been talking to the brain to do the town hall webinar right to give us all the information for
everything and everything possible because it was really in depth. All right. So, I had those individuals coming out um I believe the third week of August. The individual that was coming to do the live local um that was
out of the country. Uh he got back but then he got sick. Okay. So, that's the reason why it didn't happen in July and I have to move it back to August. All right. For both of those. Okay. As far as property tax also and I think Urban
wants to touch on it um so I'll let him talk about you know the his his view on that. But as far as property tax also there are there are other things like for example I'm just going to say this really quickly with the property tax situation
there is like a carve out for um police services. There's a carveout for that. So, just to be open with you guys, I haven't told anybody else this, but you know, the way that I'm looking at it and what I would
try to do if it goes that way is since there's a there is a carve out for police services. I think there's a way that we can through our police department, we can funnel things through there
through our police through through our police department and even some other individuals um some other mayors uh with small municipalities up north. I meet with them and they're even talking about that. Okay. So there's a way that that
will you know you lose the municipality will lose a significant amount of money but it won't be everything they were to lose originally if you can funnel things through your police department because the police department has to be they have a carve out to where they'll be
funded right so for example give you guys an example so public safety police department is public safety public safety could also be potholes speed humps, right? Road repair possibly. So, there's ways to funnel
things through the police department since they're funded, right, that can come out on the other side. So, I'm working on things like that also. I'm preparing things just in case. Okay. But, um but there will be a uh a town
hall uh webinar about that coming up. It's going to be informational. So, it's not going to be leaning one way or the other, you guys. >> So, so >> I can cover this in in about 90 seconds. I'll cover this in about 90 seconds. All
right. I said it at a meeting several months ago. As of 2023, 52% of adults inside the United States are what's called functionally illiterate. Now, if you think what I just said was 52% of adults don't know how to read, that's
not what I just said. And you might be part of the functionally illiterate. This is a public service announcement. What is happening? What is h this isn't funny. Like, not even by a long stretch. >> Okay. So, those of you who read financial news know that a Kshaped
economy is forming. And you might even heard of an E-shaped economy. In a K-shaped economy, you have one line that goes up and one line that goes down. That's a very simplistic way of looking at it. What it is is permanent class separation. The middle class is
actively being dismantled. There is no plan whatsoever for replacing the revenue of loss of property tax in the state of Florida. There is zero plan of what to do budgetarily for loss of property tax in the state of Florida.
Personally, I'm not 100% opposed to eliminating the property tax. If there were a plan, and there is not. What's going to happen in Florida, which is already occurring, is brain chain will continue. Those who are smart enough to leave a state that does something like
this to itself will leave. They have the means to, and they'll be gone. You are headed towards a manufactured scenario where we revert back to a system
where property owning head of household. All right, that's going to be the term that starts flying around. property owning head of household has demonstrated the uh the uh competent wisdom necessary to vote.
That is where we are headed. And if you think that a voter ID is is a reasonable thing to do, picture in your mind any administration anywhere in the future that makes driver's licenses have a
$10,000 fee to get one. It's a pole tax. It's a pole tax. That's why you can't have it. It's a pole tax. No one cares that you need one to fly a plane or or drive a car or pick up medicine or it's a pole tax. There's a functional
illiteracy problem where people are falling for all of these things. There is no plan for the replacement of the revenue lost by eliminating a property tax. You are being duped by the largest land owners in Florida. That's
what's happening. >> All right, you guys. Um, so, so I'll be having that come in for property tax, but like I said, um, like the example I gave for the police department, there's ways that you can funnel things through. Um, so that is an insane way to start this conversation. We're going to find
every loophole necessary and we're going to funnel money through other departments because we're not allowed to have it for other departments. That is an insane way to start this conversation. That is crazy. >> So, so
We haven't heard from our CFOs since October of last year. I mean there no Elportal has not looked at what the ramifications of this amendment are. Not at all. >> So So that's what we're looking at when it comes
That's where >> that's where we look when it comes to the property tax. And like I said, that webinar town hall isformational town hall, right? So it won't lean either way. All right. Won't so it won't lean either way. Okay.
All of that to where Elpertal's options and Albertal's future possible future will all be discussed there at that okay at that event. All right. Along with the carveouts that may be
possible to help us out when it comes to um streets and flooding and how do we decide uh usually things are decided by phase right? So there's like a um a flood master plan project. All right.
And usually things are decided by phases. The one that we're discussing tonight is a continuation of something that was tabled when manager Lou was here. All right. We were fixing the flooding that was out there and it was tabled and so we're just looking back at
it to pick it back up tonight. All right. So that's a project that was already on on the books. Okay. Um, we also look at when it comes to phases, we also look at what parts are the worst part like altogether. Like for example, the
Sherwood Forest um street that's directly east of Sherwood Forest, right? That's probably the worst. So that will be I actually I already have the information for that to come up in September. So we usually for look for the worst and we look for it depends on
if it's funding that we get or if it's funding that we have right so if it's funding that we get from other places a lot of times that funding comes with like you have to put the property or put the project in to get the funding so it's for a particular project so that has to do with it also when it comes to
that all right when it comes to um people getting back to you I know I apologize for that I Council person Winters can speak on code enforcement, but if anybody can if anybody ever reaches out and if you guys can't get in touch with somebody, if you reach out to
me, I'll get I'll get you to answer or get in touch with them. All right. I'll always do that. Um, Council Person, I don't know if you want to touch on code enforcement just very briefly. But we'll get to the other stuff. >> Go ahead. Go ahead.
Go ahead. Okay, go ahead. Say what you say what you want to say. >> Hello everyone. Uh, thank you for speaking today and coming out to this meeting. I hope you all show up at the next meeting because apparently we're having another one on Thursday
and instead of doing it all today, um I I I want to let everyone know that um there was a special council meeting that I missed uh last month. I did actually change my flights and try and make it I
showed up here about 10 minutes late and the meeting was already over. And I I've really tried to keep a record where I make every meetings even have to change my flights to be here. But luckily, I think council member Urban really came to the day. He was kind of like a a
strong strong council person up here and he did everything that I would have done. I want to be thankful to council for everything you said at the special meeting. Um the um next thing I want to bring up really quickly is uh about a month ago before the special meeting, we actually
did have a vote on a uh right-hand turn sign that actually opened a whole bunch of doors and we found some information of some reasons why the right-hand turn sign was put in there, including a hit and run, which includes you don't know who hit the person or why they hit the
person. It also included a running of a stop sign. But we did find some very interesting information that since that right-hand turn only was put on 86th Street, the accident rate on 87th Street increased exponentially. >> Hold on. C. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
>> Um, are you addressing this? Let me Yeah, let me just say this. Just just for procedural purposes. So, when people do good in welfare, we have to address what they brought up in good and welfare. If individuals are are bringing up new information, that information has to be submitted to be on
like the next agenda. >> Correct. That's what I'm getting. >> So, all right. Because the left the the right hand sign, left-hand sign was not brought up. So, >> it's not a response for that. >> What I'm going to get at it then is um I would like I have some public record requests I'm waiting for to be filled.
I'd like the next meeting that's a full council meeting, not a special meeting to um look at some of this the research that Miami date um already has and they already have the um studies and talk about putting a lefthand turn signal on 87th Street at next agenda meeting.
>> But but Council Person Winters, you're bringing up new information that has nothing to do with the questions and what was brought up during Good and Welfare. >> Yes, I know. You told me I have to tell this before we go to agenda items. When else would you like me to say it?
I understand what you're saying, but if you're talking about legislative items that you want to bring up to be voted on or a motion to be voted on, all you have to do is submit, you know, to the clerk like, "Hey, I want these things on the
next agenda." And then, you know, we look at and if if it's timely, if it's, you know, if it's relevant, things like that, then we put it on, >> of course. But you but you but you kind now it's public record. So we we can move forward and I'll send her the email. Everyone here knows. >> All right. But just know that when we're doing good and welfare and then we
finish good and welfare, we're responding to what was brought up during good and welfare. You can't just bring up, you know, new additional items that are not on the agenda. >> Okay. >> All right. That's all. Just procedural. I just want to make sure that we're we're doing that the right way. Okay,
you guys. All right. So when it comes to um the what's next? Let's set up the sewer. So when it comes to set of the sewer, so let me just say a couple of things. Actually, let me hit this while I'm doing that. So when it's when we're
talking about uh negativity versus just likeformational things, when it comes to things like this, okay, when it comes to things like this, there's there's no reason why no one can question what's going on, right? But there's also a way
that when you want to know information, you ask the information instead of accusing individuals, right? So, a lot of times what happens is unfortunately people come to their own conclusions or they say little comments, right? To take like a dig at
you while they're assuming information, right? You must be hiding something. There must be something going on or something like that, right? I remember um you know more recently I remember there was uh you know you guys aren't doing anything for
4th of July. Why don't you just ask like hey are you guys doing something for Fourth of July? Remember I called right there on the spot, the guy that we were doing something with. So that's an example. All right. To not be accusatory and come to a conclusion
before you just take time to ask the person. I've never been accusatory towards anyone. Right? If I see something, I say, "Hey, like what's going on with this? Like can you explain this?" So you just want to get to that point.
Okay? And yes. So for sure if individuals if you're asking questions and you're not getting the answers that you're looking for then that's something else. I remember a long time ago that um I remember at the meetings there was uh
times where people would be like you know you guys aren't hearing us or you guys aren't listening to us right and I remember when I spoke to um a young lady and I was telling her I said well look I said when you said what you wanted to say I responded but you just didn't like
what I said right so I I'm always listening I hear everything, you know, and so just just don't take don't take that I may not agree with you with you're not hearing [clears throat]
me right and I'm really easy going like even if I disagree with you we're not going to always agree but just be like well mayor like what are you talking about you say mayor like where does that even come from and I can explain to you like my thought process of why I think
that way and how I got there you know So, love all of you guys out there. We'll we'll get through everything. All right. So, let's go to step the sewer. So, since I've been mayor, you guys, um, you know, for years
and years, we had lobbyists that we paid way over $100,000 up to $100,000 for years. And we would never get anything, okay, from the lobbyists year after year after year after year. And so when I
came in to save money, I cut that out because we never got anything anyway. So I do all the trips to Tallahassee. I do all the trips to DC, right? And of course at my 3,000 a year, right? Fine. So
with that, this the sewer which when I came in as mayor, I started working on right and started working on and negotiated with manager Aloo the um that
the pumping station with Horus man like it would go there possibly and things like that. Even there was even um a couple of years ago where they started to come in and lay some pipes down. But the reason why and there's another example, you know, I put out the flyer
that this is big news and it is big news, right? But the reason why this just came out now was because it just got finalized on June July 21st, I believe it was, or July 23rd.
like it just happened. And so, you know, good examples of, you know, individuals that reached out. I had a lot of individuals reach out to me, you know. Um, good afternoon, Mr. Mayor. I'm writing to say that I'm happy to hear about um the SE tour project. I'm
wondering uh when is starting and what do you need from us to complete the project? Anything you need, we're always here. Once again, uh nice job from the village. Um you guys are working and we see it right. I responded to him as I'm going to respond to you guys and tell you guys what's going on right now since
this just came through you guys. And it's not funding. Miami Day County is taking over the project fully. Okay. They're doing it. All right. Going through the primary individuals are the water and sewer
department. Now, next month, which is why I told this individual, I said hello. I saw his name. Um, it's always a pleasure to hear from you. Next month, they will begin sending me the phases and timelines, you guys. So, phase one is confirmed.
Now, the project is confirmed fully, but now we're down to the phases and the timelines from what property to what property and the timelines. Now, they told me that it's a 10 to 12 year project. 10 to 12 years.
Okay. But as far as the phases, and I kind I pretty much know where the first phase is going to be, but I don't want to say it now until I get the map. They're going to send me the map. So when when each phase is confirmed, you guys, or is it confirm the phases, they'll send me the map that shows everything, shows the septic tank, shows where it's going to be, right, with the
timeline. Okay? And I'll get that guy I'll get that out to you all right away. All right? So, expect the first phase and timeline to come out beginning of next month. >> All right. >> During our government recess where we're
not going to have any meetings at all, public facing >> just because Elpal is on vacation in August, I'm never on vacation and a c and the county will still be doing their work.
So the beginning of next month you will get the first phase and timeline. All right. Council person, I have a lot of questions. Um are you saying that the uh septic to
sewer project for villageville portal has been fully turned over to the county of Miami Dade? >> The county of Miami Dade has fully taken over the 7 project. Not just county roads,
but they're going to oversee the entirety of the village of Elporttowal going subject to sewer as they always would. Who we we don't we we don't have the um resources to do our own sept to sewer conversion. Council person, who was
going to do it? It was either going to be the county or the state. It was always going to be them. When is groundbreaking going to start and where is it going to start? >> I pretty much know. But like >> but that's a very direct question. Where
is groundbreaking going to start and when is it going to start? And if it's going to start within 30 days, how do we not know that yet? I have so many questions. >> I know like a thousand questions. Just >> No one said groundbreaking starts in 30 days.
They send us the phase with the timeline. That's not construction. Is this phase going to magically begin uh right in front of Adam Newman's property? >> No.
I would I'm dying to find out. >> You all who receive the flyer, if you read it, >> we need committee meetings. is if we had quarterly admin and finance committee meetings, uh we would not be having residents in the dark about the budget. If we had quarterly public works
meetings, we don't have to have committee meetings every month, but quarterly public works committee meetings every month, this would not be a surprise to anybody. We are in dire need of a real committee schedule so that the endless stream of surprises both to the public and the council would
be able to be mitigated if not stopped because we are in a constant state of surprise and it is uh it is beyond exhausting, worrisome, concerning etc etc. >> Did I just not say that this was
finalized on July 23rd. >> So, right, but even the fact that this is a plan that might be coming to fruition is a surprise in itself. It I mean it the and the residents should be
uh awaiting word at this meeting because they're already anticipating word because we had a quarterly committee meeting where this information was essentially disclosed and addressed. And so it's it's just u the
The way that major major activities like this are presented is uh is is frustrating, concerning, and I I mean I I the source is my favorite book. I'll just keep going with adjectives. >> From July 23rd to July 28th, you guys
28th. >> Can I chime in? But to one resident's point during good and welfare, which I believe we're still in, is uh is that uh we're 10 years into this discussion. This so I mean I mean everybody yell at me and tell me I'm a fool for being surprised
by this, but I have a feeling everyone's surprised by this. >> I'm going to respond, but go ahead, Council President. >> So you said you all that received the flyer. I'm one of the received flyer. So, I'm also kind of trying to figure out, you know, what's going on, how it happened. I didn't get any emails
through the manager. I wish the manager was here tonight. I wish him well. I hope he's okay. Um, uh, if this is a 10 to 12 year project, did they tell you that they're also going when they lay down the sewer, they're going to be fixing our roads since they have to put roads on top of the sewers?
>> So, the road situation, and I'm explaining this when I send everything out, you guys, all right, the phases and everything like that. All right, because that came up. So, the road situation right now, they're not funding fully
redoing the roads. They're just going to cover up the sections where the sewage is laid down currently. Okay. Now, I haven't gotten around to the entire village with this. So, if some individuals did not get a
flyer yet, that's the reason why. All right. Okay. >> So, so that's what it is. But like I said, this is just to let you guys know that it's coming, you guys.
All right. >> Once once >> once church. >> You know, I had a I had a resident who was upset with me because I had not met with Adam Newman's people about his project. And I've met with him three
times. I met with him three times. And uh and from the very first meeting I had with Lauren, she was touting the pros of the project and who's behind it and the expertise and it all sounded great. And one of those pros was that they are
exceptionally cozy with the county and we can make things happen immediately. Whatever we need to get done with the county, we can do it because we know everybody. And that was very clear as a massive pro uh of why we should uh uh be excited to have them as developers
because of that connection with the county and the ability to move things forward even when there's obstacles. For those of you who received my paper, for those of you who didn't, still in them out what it states on there and what I wrote,
and I wrote this on purpose. This was purposely. This represents one of the most significant environmental infrastructure investments within our village's history and will provide long lasting benefits for our residents, our
environment. I said septic tank septic systems have contributed to bacteria, excess nutrients and other pollutants entering our groundwater and nearby waterways.
These contaminants ultimately affect the little river watershed and eventually flow into Biscane Bay. By replacing septic systems with modern severe infrastructure, we are taking an important step towards protecting South
Florida's most one of my South Florida one of most valuable re natural resources. I said this project will help my bullet points are there. Protect the little river in Biscane Bay. Reduce bacteria and nutrient pollution entering
our waterways. Improve water quality. Why am I talking about water so much? >> We know all this. We know all this. the con the county >> because >> does not have our best interest as they do this project that >> because
they're not starting an Adam Newman's property. That's why I focused on water quality so much. Why does everything have to be a riddle? So you're talking about 85th and 86th Street. You're talking about the properties closest to the canal are the
ones that are going to get started. So, we do know where they're starting this project. >> I said that nothing is official until they send the phase map. >> I'm concerned about the county's
>> diligence in repaving after a project. First of all, that one of my biggest concerns honestly is is that uh is that we do not have we do not have any control over the quality of the work that they do or
otherwise. And so uh anybody here from the west side? Anybody here from the west side? All right, start uh start placing bets on how long it takes for septic to or sewer to get to the west side. You all, if you don't want this project,
I can tell them to pull it tomorrow. >> I can tell him to pull it tomorrow. I'm the I'm the I'm the one I'm the one >> question. >> And I said previously, this is about the fourth time,
beginning of next month, they will start to send me the phases with the timeline with the map. meeting next week. >> Who else in the village will receive it?
>> Everyone will receive it. What are you talking about? >> All right. That's my question because well, you said very clearly they're going to send you the plans next week or whenever it is. And so my question is who else will they send the plans to? >> Everyone will receive it. But I'm the
point person on this council person. I'm the one that got it done. Can uh you uh give me >> and and lobbyists that we paid for decades did got nothing for us. >> We paid the lobbyist $60,000 a year.
There were two years in a row that got us environmental projects to the tune of of uh of water and all of the things we're talking about. And those were consistently line item vetoed by the governor. And the reason we decided to
drop the lobbyists, we this this fiscal year that's up uh September 30 is the first year we have not had lobbyists and it's because it was deemed that in the current political environment in Tallahassee.
We were facing an inevitability of once again perhaps having our lobbyoss do good work for us, which they had accomplished few years in a row. And then the odds were increasingly greater and greater that whatever accomplishments might be achieved, were going to be line item vetoed by the
governor because they always consistently fall under environmental category, which as you know is a naughty word. Now, >> the lobbyists went down to 60 for two years. They were above 60. They were
over 100,000 for over a decade per year. Then fell down to 60 for about two to three years. They never brought anything in. Yes, government would veto, but they never brought anything in. You guys, >> can I ask a quick?
>> So, you know, I worked hard for this and worked hard to try to get something that we've been waiting for for a very, very long time. So, mayor, I appreciate that you've worked hard for this. I just have a question because you're the only one
probably knows the answer. Um, we had originally funds that were through grants. What happened to those funds through the grants originally because now Miami Dade's taking over the funds from my understanding. What happened to the original funding grants? >> The original funding grants didn't they
just didn't come through fully. So, the original funding grants we got so we first got a grant. The first grant we got was it was a hardship grant. Okay. And so the hardship grant was for the furthest west um properties. And the
reason why the hardship grant was for the properties furthest west. It was like the northwest kind of the mid and the northwest because they were hardship grant because those property values over there were lower than as you go east. Those were the lowest property values. Okay. That grant right there, we had it
and then um when Governor DeSantis came in, they rescended that grant under manager Aloo. Okay. Yeah. Governor De Santis then rescended it.
>> I just want to say again, I've noticed a pattern of good and welfare. So, we're an hour and a half into good and welfare, and most of what has been discussed in good and welfare are things that otherwise typically would have been addressed at committee meetings along the way. And so, here we are having five
committee meetings in Good and Welfare, uh, ahead of a general counsel meeting. And so, u, we used to have no one come to these meetings. These meetings were four hours long. Uh, and and I'm afraid we're headed back to a realm again where
people just get exhausted and tired of coming to the meetings because it takes an hour and a half to even get to the first consent agenda item when it feels like everyone is probably feels like they've been saying the same thing that they've said for months and months and months. And the through line that I see
is that we haven't had committee meetings. I just I'm I'm just going to start screaming about it constantly. admin and finance plus public works first and then you know chief is doing a great job of holding down public safety. Thank God, you know,
and so uh but public safety needs to be uh quarterly. We need quarterly reports. We need these things addressed and these things can come up and be handled in a committee environment and then it's not there there's just there just aren't the this is this is rapidly devolving. That's just what I see in terms of these
meetings. >> This is the last thing that I'll say. Um on Friday morning, I already have it done. On Friday morning, you guys will get the full breakdown of the budget stuff. We'll just leave it at that. Um you guys have anything else last you want to say? Okay. So, we'll move on. All right. Um,
Attorney Geller, >> can you please read the the resolution? Attorney Geller, for the record, uh, this will be it's not Northeast Fifth Avenue. This will be um, uh, Northeast Fourth uh, Fourth Road.
>> I'm sorry, Mayor. Your but yours you wanted. Oh yes, let me let me say that because for you Mr. Pulium, we can't make a motion for something that isn't previously on isn't on the agenda, isn't part of the agenda. So for example, the
only thing we could have done was if we would have known about it when we approved the agenda, if we would have added it then, then then we could make a motion. So the motion you're asking for, we can't make it. I wanted to tell you that once we said it. So we can't make the
>> So we can't make the Yeah, I'll respond. We can't make the motion. The manager is not here tonight. So, um, the attorney or clerk can get in touch with him tomorrow. I'll also get in touch with him tomorrow and
see what's going on with that. But he's he's just not here tonight, so I can't answer for him. Mr. P, unfortunately, >> the manager is ill tonight. >> I don't I don't report issued. >> No report. I got >> was directed unanimously by the council.
>> So yeah, so let's not try to speak from the because we need to be on my but um but no nobody I didn't get anything I don't know council person um council person winters. Uh did you guys get anything from the manager accord um in regards to Mr. Pul? >> I don't know that I did. What were you
asking me? I'm sorry. I don't >> I I'll go I'll go over in a second. >> Okay. I'm a little worried because I have had um a few weeks of unanswered emails from him. I came by um to look for him today and they said he was gone again. So, I'm
hoping and praying he's he's okay. >> Okay. Yeah, we hope he's okay. >> Um Attorney Geller, for the resolution, instead of Fifth Avenue drainage, >> yes,
>> it will be Fourth Avenue Road. Okay, >> that's the only change. Nothing else changes. >> Everything else stays the same. >> Okay. Um >> and but we do consent agenda before that. We ready for that? >> Uh yeah. Do I have a motion to approve
consent agenda? >> So moved. >> Do I have a second? All in favor say I. I. All post say nay. Hearing none. Okay. Attorney together. So >> and I'll move then to item H, the resolution that's before us. And
um Alpertell it well you changed it from Northeast Fifth Avenue. Say again mayor too. >> Fourth Avenue Road. >> Fourth Avenue road. Okay. So the resolution is regarding Alpertell Northeast 4th Avenue Road drainage improvements. Resolution of the village
council of the village of Alpertell, Florida accepting the proposal of Craig A. Smith and Associates for professional engineering design services for the Northeast, changing it to Fourth Avenue Road
drainage improvements project, authorizing the manager to execute the professional services agreement, authorizing the expenditure of funds, providing for implementation, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. >> Thank you. You guys want to um say something first, council? Let me open it
up to the audience first. >> No, we we basically had it incorrect, I guess, on what we sent out to the village with the name, but that does not make a difference on this, right, with Sunshine Law. Attorney Geller,
>> you're permitted to amend the um resolution that's in front of you. It's on the agenda. Yeah. >> Um since the mayor said that that was the correction, I note that there was no objection from any member of council. No, we just >> assume that it is amended by um
>> not about the actual um document, but the actual notice we sent out to residents said fifth on it and making sure that didn't have to say fourth by sunshine law. >> It's not a sunshine law issue at all. Okay. >> There's no in indication that council members are, you know, speaking out of
the sunshine. Was announced publicly by the mayor uh in in an open meeting. So, I don't see there's any sunshine law implications. whatsoever. >> Not necessarily sunshine. I know what you're getting that you're not but you're using the wrong term, not sunshine law. But he's trying to say that because it was um wrong when it ran
when it went out. Can we vote on it tonight or do we have to re put it out with the correct road? You can amend it. And the fact is that somebody I mean you're talking about something that's like a block away from the other one. It's the same general area. There's
it's up and down. So that area No, I don't Excuse me. Excuse me, sir. If you Yeah, but you can't say it from the audience. If you have something to say, you can be recognized and say it from up there. >> But that said, I see no problem with it.
It's the same general area. There's an amendment to describe it, but you know, it's not just really when you look at the item and the proposal, it's not just one block. Anybody on that's concerned about drainage improvements in that area is on notice. That's going to be
discussed here. So, no, I think there's no problem with making that slight correction, an amendment to the proceeding resolution by consensus without objection. And yes, I believe you can vote on it. >> And the actual documents that go along
with it, the the maps that are on this also say Fifth Avenue on what we understand where things are going. Do we need to get some kind of maps now that we know? Because I don't know where it's going except for Fourth Avenue Road somewhere near Mr. Dreer's house. But the actual maps that are provided with
the documents show a different road. >> You're not required to have every single thing about it that might possibly come up be in the the notice documents. The purpose of notice is to give people in
the public notice generally speaking of what you're going to do. There are some things you can't amend because they're completely different than what was advertised or noticed. You couldn't do something that had no relationship to it, but something
that is in close relationship to it. If there's a correction, if there's an amendment and it's in the same general area, the map does not just show one block. So, I Yes, that's I'll say it
again. I don't see a problem with it. >> The map doesn't even show the probably they they focus on the one specific section. We don't want to have to happen what it be clear. Okay. I I I'm not telling you you have to proceed with it.
It's the privilege of the council to say, "Well, we think it wasn't clear. If you want to postpone getting it done, you have that privilege. I'm not telling you you have to proceed with it. I'm just saying if that's the will of the
council, I don't think there's a problem with you proceeding with it. It still takes a motion. It still takes a second. It still takes a majority vote of the quorum that's present. >> What's your suggestion, Council Person Winters? What do you >> I'm I'm not trying to stir the pot here.
I just I want to make sure I'm making an informed uh decision when I make a vote and when I look at a map that says something different, I'm not sure if I'm voting on the right thing and that concerns me. I don't want another 91st Street circle dilemma to happen because we don't have the correct information in
front of us. Let's go to the audience you guys for this particular um item. Come up say your name and address for the record. The floor is yours for this item. [clears throat] >> Good evening. My name is Warner Dreer.
I'm at 486 Northeast uh 87 Street. Uh so I'm here just to speak a little bit just give a little bit background. I've reached out to all of you three right on separate occasions. I've been working with uh Mayor Omar. I think Orlando from
Craig Smith and Associates mayor. He was going to be here as well, right? You had invited him. >> Yeah, I invited him, but he couldn't make it. I can call him though. >> Okay. So, perhaps he could chime in why there's a misprint on the Fifth Avenue Road. I do understand uh council
person's winter's concerns. I I brought it up to him yesterday, right? Uh but basically since a year ago, right, when there was that whole power generator installation, there was a line that was put underneath 4th Avenue Road for a
chamber, a gas chamber. Um I've I think I've included all of you into what happened a year ago. Uh as a consequence then manager Aloo with the mayor they went ahead and added a burm right on the fourth avenue roadside on the on the
west side to because that whole resurfacing created a river practically going into my property. So in essence uh yesterday I you know when we met I showed you some pictures of the burm the
impact right that has been done um in the past uh because of that whole resurfacing on that underlying line that's 4th Avenue road. So uh so then I you know I brought it up to Mayor Nickerson. He understood it's a temporary patch. cars are parking on
that whole burn when there's events here on the top lot. Uh we've had experienced some overflows. I sent some pictures to Mayor Nickerson uh showing that um the cars are being parked there. So, it's been a year. There has been already some
erosion from it from there's a water flow traveling from 4th Avenue Road from the south to the north practically eroding picking up the the sod bringing it into then 87 street. Uh so so the
intent was there uh also to resurface uh the entire parking lot after the fact that that whole little patch had created that impact on my house and I think Mayor Nickerson you removed it from the
that meeting in the agenda. I had reached out to manager Aloo the engineer uh Mr. uh from CAP government Mr. camp. I always forget his mohan. >> Yeah. >> But uh so it was removed from that. So
basically you have a parking lot. They want to resurface it in addition to what they resurface. There's no drainage. Um so um >> so I stopped the resurface and this is the continuation of that project. >> Correct. Yes. So so I reached out to
Mayor Nickerson in January. Uh we met with Orlando Rubio from um Craig Smith and Associates. Um he did come up with a solution. I did bring it up to Mayor Nickerson that actual document which was
provided to us back in May. Perhaps you want to see some sketch right where that drainage might want to show specifically which I understand that's on Fourth Avenue Road. Um I agree with perhaps having a sketch or something in that sense. I totally agree with having an
informed decision. Um I I think Mayor Nickerson, you had reached out to now Mayor uh to Orlando Rubio as far as perhaps getting that sketch done. So the intent was for him to be here as well to uh speak on on his work right on that
document. So um that's where I'm at. So Mayor Nickerson, not sure if you can speak anything addition to that or if you have any questions. >> Yeah, I mean I spoke to him about the Fifth Avenue thing. He said he could send us one um tomorrow updated >> an updated document. >> He can send us one that says Fourth Avenue Road. That's the only change when
it comes to that, but nothing inside of there changes. So, >> and and then to Council Person Winter's comment about having the sketch, is he open to having like a little diagram at least showing where that drainage because that would be my same question I would have, right? And and specifically,
we see the drainage here on the east on on the east side of Fourth Avenue Road. It has like this little >> little I I don't know the proper name, but it has like a little sliding uh that travels the sliding um I would say u
channel that slides the the the water into the into the drainage. So perhaps he can add something like that so we get a better feel for what he's trying to bring up. >> Yeah. You know, we always have the option of tableabling it. Okay. And coming back with, you know, these ass.
So we can table it and come back with these ask at a at a future meeting, you know. >> Okay. But um but just >> that's always an option also. >> Yeah, exactly. But it would be great if you know if there would be some sort of uh sketch, right? Maybe that's what may uh council person winters is saying.
>> We can think Yeah, he can commit to it. Yeah. >> So yeah, so we have that option. We can do that. We can table to get that sketch and then bring it back if we want. >> Yeah. I I just want to make sure everybody feels like they have they're for in voting an informed decision, right? And when would that be tabled then to uh um assuming
>> be table and we could bring it back if had to come back in September? >> In September. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um All right. And will it be okay to include the other council members as well just in case they you know they have >> No, everybody will get So when he when he resends the updated um plans,
everybody it goes it everybody will get it. So >> Okay, great. Awesome. Okay. So, that that works for me. I just want to make sure everybody has, you know, >> do you have any other questions that you might want to consider for an informed decision? >> I just I feel bad for you because you're the one being impacted by all these
rains right now. >> Thank god. >> Do you have another question I asked you though? Do you have another question that you might want to look from the engineerings? I >> I think the mayor wants me to wait till everyone else speaks before I answer things. Thank you. >> Yeah, just in case. Yeah, of course. All right. Thanks.
>> Thank you. George Alvarez, 165 Northwest 88 Street. Thank you, uh, Mr. Mayor, Council Person Winters, for working so diligently with the, uh, resident who is [clears throat] apparently most impacted. I've I've seen the, you know, in Pittsburgh, they've
got the three rivers. That's right. What's that's that's what's here. You've got water coming south to north, north to south, and of course, east to west. Um, [clears throat] I would suggest that uh somebody from
the engineering firm be available to the council as well as to the residents most impacted perhaps including uh those who use uh little peacock, formerly Tot Park. Um because it does seem to me that I've I've I feel like I've heard of
heard this this solution in the past and um if you guys know the answer, where does this where would this drain to? Because I don't think it drains anywhere. I think it's essentially a f
Well, usually I don't like to cut in during the the public comment, but uh Mr. Dreer has a uh a French drain right there in front of his house. So it would it would drain to there. >> Well, I mean I mean a a French drain drains it doesn't drain anywhere. It
just drains down. Drains down, you know. >> Um but it's it can be kind of a band-aid solution. And there was one done on Northeast 85th Street um back in the fall. It that was a $10,000 French
drain. This is a $32,000 French drain. You can get a French drain at Home Depot for about $75. I'm not saying that this might be apples and oranges and that might be the appropriate fee structure of what is of the kind of the volume of
water that's being handled, but I think you've got some data from the one that's on Northeast 85th Street. Is it working? Is it moving that kind of water? And if it is working and if it is valued correctly, then I I mean, I've walked down Northeast 88th Street where Mrs.
Edelman was mentioning before. I mean, like that's right. Waterfront property, as as as somebody uh just echoed, if French drains are the answer in terms of getting some of the water in the more troubled spots, then that's a good use
of funds. I don't know if $32,000 should be a French drain. Like I said, you can get them in more normal residential circumstances for considerably cheaper, but there's data there uh from the one that's on Northeast 85th Street. And that that sort of data could be compared
with whatever the engineering uh uh firm says and uh what Mr. uh Warner uh Mr. Dreer requested. And then that's that's a good amount of data and a possible rubric for other
parts of the village. Um, >> yeah, >> the buzzer is up >> just in time. Thank you guys. >> We understand. Thank you. Thank you very much. >> And we'll continue with uh public comment, but you guys, we can we can table it if we want to table it. >> I believe we're probably getting there, but we probably make sure we need to
have all the questions for the manager when he does bring it back or we do bring it back and he's here because I think a lot of these things could be answered by him if he was here tonight. Um, and I'm sure there's a lot of answers people want to hear, and I like hearing the the residents tell us the
questions that they have so we can make sure those questions are answered ahead of time before we table it to September. >> I'll call them, but >> And which fund would this $32,000 come out of? Which which line item are we talking? >> Yeah. So >> which division?
>> So there's multiple ways we can do it. So we can either do it through the um we have funds in development and development funds we have that are available um couple hundred,000. Um we have uh a fund for like drainage and
street stuff that's like 60,000 right there. And then you can also because you guys when these things are passed, it doesn't mean that especially we're lucky lucky I'm l we're lucky and I'm unlucky this summer because the summer's so hot. This might be the hottest summer I've
ever felt. Um and I'm from Miami. It's like 10, you know, 9:30 in the morning. It feels like it's almost noon. But we are lucky in that this is a pretty dry summer. So even though we we pass this, we can pass it um but not necessarily
do it until after the new fiscal year. You see what I mean? Like so when you pass a resolution, the resolution is there. The resolution doesn't expire, right? So there's multiple options that we can um use when looking into this. We can budget it into the next year's
budget, right? If we pass it um whenever. So understand resolutions don't expire. So it's about the intent of whatever we want and then >> if I can mayor yes you're 100% correct this authorizes the manager to go ahead
but you know questions have to be answered you know you can direct tell him to please check on this or check on that. It may not get done immediately, but then when it's ready to be done, if you vote on it and you authorize it at the proper time, he executes the
contract. That's what you're authorizing him to do. So, if you change what it is he's authorized to do tonight, um, you know, he still has to have a contract. They'll have to make the change to correct where exactly it's taking place.
And when the village as an entity is satisfied, he can go ahead and execute the contract or he could have the contract in the meantime and say wait for a notice to proceed and issue that at the appropriate time because what you just said is completely correct once
you've authorized it. Unless you put something in that says if it's not done in a month that it does expire. Otherwise, as you put it, you're completely correct. It doesn't expire. It's an authorization
um for good and welfare. Come on. Come on. Um this item >> mayor technically good and welfare. You're taking public comment on the resolution. >> Public comment. Go ahead. Mr. >> Elita 12 Northeast 90th Street. So I had a question because I I've also seen the
water the way it's running to the property and Mr. Dreer. And my question was like the company that actually uh worked on this project, what are the guarantees? Do we have any, you know, like uh insurance on that or because it
sounds like it was done and the entire water is literally running, you know, towards his property. So that should have been something that should have been caught by this company. So that's something that what are the option that we can look into that as well. that the company that put the generator in that
manager Al did that work is what you is what you're talking about. >> Whoever paved the street, right? >> Who who paved the well well who paved part of the street. I understand what you're saying. I understand the question you're asking. I understand the question. >> Right. because it sounds like you know we need to hold accountable the people
that actually like uh reassured us that this project was going we were going to put this structure but you know what without any scope of work or I mean sort of like what was going to happen to the water obviously it did it's it's
completely understandable why water is flooding his property. >> Yeah. No we'll I will definitely look into that. I don't I I wasn't part of that project. That's why I don't have I can't answer anything for you. Manager Lou did that and that's when she put in the generator. The generator's outside. She did that project. >> Um so that's why I don't have any
answers for you. But I'll >> No, I mean not for me. I mean for >> No, for sure. But I'll I'll dig into I'll dig into >> I mean especially for him because you know that's like I mean I've seen the the the water is just like it's terrifying to have all that flooding. I
mean, especially now that we are in the summer season and the rain is just um so yeah. So I you know I mean I I I don't know. I think that's the first thing to do to go to that company that worked on it and how could they have allowed
something like that? Um so but I'm glad that you guys are working with it. So thank you. >> Thank you very much. Next good and next public comment while he's count just through what year is cap contracting?
>> This wasn't cap government. This was Craig Smith and Associates. >> I know. I'm just curious though. >> Through what year is cap government contracted? I believe their contract was a five-year contract. I think I think that's right. >> Yeah, I think it was a fiveyear contract. Go ahead, Mr. >> Daniel Roas, 16 Northeast 86 Street.
Just had a couple questions. One is I skimmed through that contract and to me it looked like it was just for engineering services. No actual construction. Am I correct? >> That's engineering services. Correct. >> So, okay. So, just uh and there's barely any actual clarification on any materials or anything. That's all going
to be additional after this assessment is made. >> That would be additional. >> And then was this uh contract bid out or we have a >> So, we have a No, they're they're contracted. So, they're are contracted engineers. >> Okay. So we they they went through the bidding process when they won the award
and they they're are contracted engineers. >> Okay. Thank you. And then one observation is uh um so this is happening because a project occurred that repaved that area and it actually
started affecting one of our neighbors. Right. >> From what I understand. >> Okay. Ju just to make sure. So this every time something happens that we don't want it's a lesson learned. Right. So, as we approach this project, we should also be taking a look at everything else that it's going to
affect and how and that ties on to our sewer and all that good stuff. So, I know you guys know that, but I figure, you know, again, growth mindset. Anything that happens that we didn't like, it's a lesson learned and let's move on forward from that. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. Thank you very much.
>> Next for public comment. Denise White, 173 Northwest 88th Street. First of all, I'm in love with Mr. Wernern. I love Mr. Wernern. Mr. Werner, you are fabulous. Mr. Werner got water in front of his house. I think we should fix it. I'm not even sure. They say I'm
not supposed to say I'm I'm not sure, but I'm not sure what we are even arguing about tonight. Tonight, I thought that if I had an event with alcohol at BCO and gave free alcohol that everybody would be happy tonight and come in here and we would happy
happy joy joy make things happen. But apparently alcohol is not good for y'all. So next time we going to meet at the park, have some water. Um [snorts] I don't understand what's happening. I really don't understand what's happening. There's a drain. It's got
water. um why why we can't just help help him drain it. Now, if it costs a whole bunch of money, then I don't know. Maybe we have to talk about it. But again, I'm confused. They say I'm not [clears throat] supposed to say that. But I I can only be honest, y'all. Confused about what's
happening tonight. Now, [sighs] I only bring cherries and water. I don't have any alcohol. And I don't think we can have it in in the in the on for the deis. But if we could all just take deep
breath [sighs and gasps] and woo for two minutes, right? So that we can have productive meetings that don't last all night long. I did have a friend flying from Texas. I might not be able to make it tonight cuz
we arguing about little semantic stuff. I think I think like I said, I'm confused. So, if I'm wrong, please, Mr. Mayor, straighten me out. And then I'd like to say, Mr. Winters, before I didn't get it was Mr. Winters that was at my party, y'all, all night long, just
having a good time with us. So, I at that moment, I went blank. You know, I be nervous up here sometimes, Mr. Winters. But he was at my party all night long, mingling with people and having a good time, right? So, if we could just woo off for two minutes, fellas, and let's make a productive
thing. Mr. Warner. He's so calm about everything. He's not even getting upset. He's like, "Well, can we get him on the phone? Could can we help people have better understanding? I just don't want water in front of my place." Right. That's all right, Mr. Werner. Right. Okay. So, if we could just woo off for a
minute, pass whatever we have to pass so we can move on. So, we not here till 11 o'clock. I told y'all I might have a date. >> Thank you very much. Um, he hasn't responded back yet. Uh, Mr. Dreer. All right. I don't see anybody else for
public comment. Um, do you guys want to table it or >> would you um mind explaining uh to the audience the difference between the contracted um uh Smith and Associates versus RFQ?
>> So, uh RFQS and RFPs. Um so, there's a couple of things. So you can have a company or a service that goes through everybody has to go through an RFP or RFQ process. All right, when they first come in, everyone does. Um,
even when things are renewed, they have to go through it again. And whoever wins the bid for the RFP or RFQ process, they become the contracted company or individual for the government, right?
That's like you always hear about like so and so went won a governmental bid like Boeing won the bid for the federal government so they make all the planes and all the fighter jets and stuff like that because because they so but Boeing wasn't the only one up for the government bid right they'll have Boeing
and two or three other airplane companies and they present and then the government picks whoever has the wins the bid for the government so the entity can do that the company can do that the person can do that you also though have underneath that um well once
somebody wins the bid they become the contractual individual and if you need those services that's your contracted company. Okay. There's also underneath that if there's other work that needs to be done sometimes that has to go out and the way it works in Elpertile is this.
If there is first of all the manager has the say so up to $5,000 spending authority. Okay. If if anything's kind of over $5,000 or
even at times 2500 depending on what it is, we have to get three quotes and that's the kind of like the RFQ RFP process um or the bid process. So it just depends what we're talking about right now to kind of bring this home. Um the company that does the engineering,
they are the contracted company, Craig A. Smith and Associates. All right. Once their contract runs out, if they want to stay in Elpatau, they have to go through the RFQ or RFP process again. Okay? And other companies can come in and we can
say, "Hey, these other companies, you know, they're presenting something better at a at a lower rate." And we go with them or we stay with them or whatever. So that's the kind of like what that means just in case anybody I don't know. Just wanted people to kind of understand. the I I wanted people to understand but also when we are working
with this if we do get a request like this where they gave us the full bid they they have a a map that shows where the drain supposed to happen and it shows it very clearly on a property that has three different houses and a turn
they did not put it where that is. So I'm wondering if this bit is even correct. It might actually be cheaper than what they said because it might not be over there. Maybe it's right here and it's going to change the price. So, I think that we need to table it and make sure the manager
confirms that they gave us a bid at the right location and then we have a diagram and then bring it back in September. >> Yeah. So, let me just touch on that very quickly. >> Yeah, let me just touch on that very quickly. Um, so if you look at it, the thing about it is is that since the
water comes down, we and we can table it. Looks like we're going to be we're going to table that's no problem. But since the water comes from so far south, they're going to in they're not they're not injecting it right here. It's they're picking it up down here.
That's where they're picking it up to they're going to catch the water a little bit further back. So they're not catching it right here at like the corner of uh Mr. Dreer's property. So maybe that's why >> it's a little bit >> So yeah. So, so yes, so we can just
>> how how do we u use the verbiage for this motion to table it? >> Well, I just want I just want to clarify for the residents the that was a good question at the end there. Um the reason we're having such a to-do
over this particular item is because it is the result of previous work done that resulted in a negative outcome. Right? So, it had to do with a uh a section across the street that was dug
up to lay a pipe or power, I guess, you know, for the generator, right? Um and then uh and then the replacement of the street service basically over that little small trench, right, was its own thing. Well, it affected the shoulder
over there and there was not diligence paid to the uh leveling or you know the little micro geography there of the shoulder and so that resulted in an ongoing chronic problem for a property owner. So, we've already had someone not
do it right once. And so, now here we are contemplating spending more money to h basically have it redone, more or less, not the not the street across the street part, but the shoulder part, right? And so, uh that's where we're at. So uh uh
>> well that would probably be because our contract with them was not uh tight enough to uh provide for guarantees of leveling. And so I suspect that our contract with that uh uh vendor uh falls short in our ability to uh compel them
to fix it. And so, uh, I think the attorney would probably have to be the one to correct me on that, but that would be where, uh, I would be landing on why is that not happening? Because I agree there should be ex we should
exhaust that resource before we're we're putting out this for simply planning. >> Yeah. So, let me jump in. So, so that's the point that uh Miss Alita brought up which I said that um we look into and I'll contact manager Aloo, you know, she's right over there in Miami Shore.
She said she saw you recently, Mr. Alvarez, over there at the meeting. She said you're the only one in the audience, but you stayed the whole time. We appreciate that. But um >> they allow alcohol. >> It's all good. But uh but I'll contact manager Lou, you know, when when when
she put the generator in and that's for, you know, hurricane purposes, things like that or whatever. when she put the generator in. Um, I think they had to raise something or something like that and that's what kind of contributed or led to it when they paved over. But I don't know, but I'll reach out to her
and ask her about the contract, ask ask her um say that we're having this problem and, you know, see if we can do anything about it with the individuals that put the generator in. Okay. I'll reach out to her. Do you guys want to
table? I'll I'll move to table this item to the September general council meeting. >> Should we add to the um the fact that we need to make sure that the um manager makes sure that the bids actually for that exact spot and not the one and fifth.
>> Yeah. >> Two. >> All right. I'll reword the motion. So I move to uh instruct the manager to uh redouble the effort of diligence ahead of the September general council meeting
to have this item fully vetted and prepared uh to be able to be reported on and presented to the council for decision. >> I second. >> All right. Thank you very much. We have a motion. We have a second. Madam clerk, let me get a quick roll call on that.
>> Roll call. Council Person Winters, >> yes. >> Council Person Bomb, >> yes. >> Mayor Nickerson, >> yes. >> Motion passes three to nine. >> Thank you very much, man. Manager Roseman is not here tonight. You guys see my report there. Um, contact me as always, you guys, if you guys want to
talk about anything or have any questions about anything? Uh, Mr. Attorney, any reports? >> Not at this time. >> All right. Thank you very much. Um, do I have a motion to adjurnn, you guys? >> Wait, mayor. >> Yes. Oh, that's right. to address the qualifying. >> Um the qualifying period will be open as
of this Friday, July 31st. It runs from noon that day to next week, August 7th, noon. Anybody who wishes to become a candidate has to come uh make an appointment, send me an email to make an appointment before doing anything. Any
cannot open up a campaign account. It is very important that um they come and meet with me. That's it. Thank you very much. Um motion to adjourn. So moved. >> Second by council person Winter, second by council person Irvong. All in favor say I. I. All oppose say nay. Hearing
none. The council meeting for Tuesday, July 28, 2026 is adjourned at 9:11 p.m. Thanks.