storm. Sure. Okay. Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm now going to call the workshop meeting of July 8th, 2025 to order at 8:00 p.m. Could everyone please stand for the pledge of allegiance.
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haven't been given. The municipal clerk is directed to include the statement in the minutes of this meeting. Thank you. And we can let Mr. Bailey um onto the I see. Okay. Thank you. And Nancy, when you're ready,
can I have a roll call, please? Councilwoman David, present. Councilman Rosenway, here. Councilman Toker, here. Councilman Wilson, present. Council President Waski here.
Also present is Mayor Michael Wild, city manager Robert S. Hoffman, and Deputy City Manager John Bergner, and city attorney Bill Bailey. Thank you. Um we have we have four public hearings. First we have ordinance
2526. Um this is an ordinance to amend and supplement chapter 250 article 17 affordable housing 250-124 mandatory set aside. I'm now going to declare that the public hearing on this
ordinance is now open. Anyone who desires to be heard or to ask questions concerning this ordinance will be heard at this time. Um just before we begin uh the at the bottom of your screen there's a raise hand button. Click on that. Uh once you
raise your hand you'll be placed in queue and called on in order. Um also I will be raising the phone when you have 15 seconds left. So you know um you're ending as soon as the time is up uh your um you will be uh your open session will
be will conclude. All right. First on Q is Raymond Diaz. Please unmute. Mr. Diaz, please unmute. Mr. Diaz, can you hear me? All right. I'm just gonna move to the
next person. Hello. Oh, there you are. Okay. No, I'm sorry. No, I don't have a qu I have low my hand lower. So, I don't see how you see my hand. So, I guess it's actually it's raised. Yeah. Well, let me let me put it on raised now. What do you see
now? I don't see a raised hand. Okay. That So, I can see it's the opposite for my computer. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome. Um, so next person in Q is Diane Jansen. and go ahead and unmute. Hello.
Uh, yes. Hello. Oh, so we can't see each other now. Is that Is that true? I'm sorry. I don't know what that means. You can't you can you see me? I can hear you. You're not on video. Okay. I'm not on video. Okay. So, we're
one more step removed from being in person. Uh, which is It's not your fault. you know, I'm not I I you know, this this is a uh this is for public com I'll leave that for public comment. What I would like to say
is um the 20% um members of different communities uh such as uh uh some members of my church community at St. Cecilius have talked about the 20% uh being low especially
when people are being uh uh removed in a way from their area as uh we develop. Uh it takes away uh with 80% of the housing at market rate uh we lose
a lot of housing possibly that might be affordable. So they were people were commenting saying we should really be in the 50% uh category because so many people need affordable housing, true
affordable housing and not market rate housing. So that is something I think uh the council needs to look at especially as many people have looked at uh the overlay zones which is a different
comment um and uh as urban uh instead of urban renewal uh suburban removal uh and urbanization. So I did want to bring that up. Thank you very much.
Okay. Thank you. All right. Next in Q is Horus Ragbear. Please unmute. Hi. Can you hear us? Horus. Hello. Horus. Can you hear us? Hello, Boris. All right. Uh,
I'm just going to remove permission. Mr. Diaz, you have your hand raised again. Did you want to speak, Mr. Diaz? You had your hands raised again. Did you want to speak? Yes. Thank you. Okay, go ahead. I had to go back to the agenda because I
didn't make copies of the actual pages. Uh but I notice in this uh case it's talking about multifamily five or more that will be uh be provided.
Is this are they going to be provided in what is now zoned as a single family area? I think possibly that may be the misconception that people have that people thought that the single family
zoning would remain the same and that we wouldn't change it to add those multi-purpose uh units. Is that correct? Is there a change on that? Are we are we changing uh certain
number of these multi-units into areas where uh you're changing it to I know it can't be single family unless I'm wrong. Can you clarify that?
Do you do you get what I'm asking? because I was I was listening to the planning board the other day and it seems like that uh they thought that there was a lot of hearsay and people didn't understand it clearly and I thought that we were
protected by not having multi-use units in single family zoned areas. So are we changing areas to single family to provide this type of opportunity or uh is it clear that these multi-units
will not be in single family zones? Hope I clarified my question. That's it. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Um, looks like Horus wants to try again.
Let's try that again. Oh, no. Oh, here we go. All right, Horus, please unmute. Hello. Please unmute. All right. All right. Now we can hear you. Oh god. All right. This affordable housing
dilemma that we are currently in, I think um the resolution itself, and I said it the last time, we are not in compliance. We have never been in compliance. This was all created by
certain parties in town that allowed all the other construction to go up without having any affordable housing. So, this needs to be addressed as well. I mean, I I've been around longer than every one of you guys
up here, right? Um, so I when we talked about Ken Albert, I have a little pet peeve because Ken Albert was part of the most corrupt administration this city has ever seen. Uh, Bill Bailey should be understand this because he was a part of the old boys club as well. He was the
architect and designer of the 2004 2016 2014 master plan that addressed affordable housing. He worked with the planning board but somehow no affordable housing was ever built. We have had many
apartment buildings built while he was our city engineer but not one of his affordable not one has any affordable housing. He and the planning board has uh brought and sought the highest bidder. His office was right across from
the street from town center but never saw a fifth story going up. How convenient. He then moved into the same building that he that way he retired from. This is a problem that has existed for a long time. This is old school
politics. This is the old boys club of Englewood, right? We trying to resolve an issue right now that was created by our past administrations, by the past board of planning boards, by our past engineers.
Moving forward, this is where my problem comes in. How many people are going to move? And the numbers, the 20% sounds good on paper. I looking for numbers. If it's 359 and 634 from the the past um
phase phase three, we talking almost a thousand people, a thousand apartments which only really represents 20%. I'm afraid that I move in this town because of the field, because of how it was a nice little suburban town. I am afraid that this town is the Bronx is coming to
meet me and I use the Bronx because I lived in the Bronx for four years. All right? So I understand the the the problems, the issues, the parking, the the course of what it does to any town, any city. We have done nothing to say
that this is going to cost our city services. This is going to cost our educational services. This is what they're going to cost when it comes to traffic. We already have a lot of traffic on Dean Engle Street Grand and Palisades Avenue. Where are we putting the
time is up? Thank you. You're welcome. All right. No one else has their hand raised. Okay. Thank you. I'm now going to close the public hearing for this ordinance. Can I have a motion that the ordinance 2526 be adopted?
So moved. Can I have a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Bailey. Can uh before we have discussion I'm hearing a background here before we have discussion uh from the governing body um Mr. Bailey can you
answer Mr. Diaz's question please? Yeah yeah um with respect to Mr. Diaz's question. If a section is zon if a five unit or more apartment building or residential building is not permitted in that zone, it can't be built. They would
have to go before the zoning board and justify getting a use variance to do that. So what this does, it only applies to um five or more unit residential developments that are as of right, which wouldn't be in a single family zone or
or as granted by a zoning board variance if the board of adjustment granted a variance to permit such a thing in some other zone or area. Um, so it's not an automatic uh that would have to get variance relief or be part of a redevelopment plan uh to require that.
So a strict single family zone where it's not permitted unless there's a variance, you can't build a five family house. In the magic of the five families, that's what triggered the mandatory set aside ordinance. Okay. Thank you. Uh, does anyone on the
governing body um have any questions or comments? Okay. Uh, Councilman Wilson, thank you. Um, Mr. Ragby, I didn't know you were that old, but I I've been here in ingward for 64 years. Um, and and I think that this is a good thing. There
have been some loopholes prior to, and this council and management is trying to close that loophole by having the magic f. Um and so it it does not Mr. Diaz allow people with single family to take advantage of this um because they can't
separate the five units. Now this doesn't apply to the illegals where the um they're having room houses. That's not what we're talking about here. So just so everybody's on the same page. Thank you, Council President.
Thank you. Any other comments or questions from the governing body? Yes, if I can. It's uh Michael Wilds. My apologies that I'm not showing my screen, but I'm a little under the weather. I think that Mr. Ragbear does speak certain truth to power about the
past administration that there was no affordable housing either in the master plan. And when it was put together finally by ordinance, my planning board had the privilege of actually asking some developers to put in affordable
housing even though it wasn't required less they not get their approvals. So we're super sensitive. Uh I think the governing body has done a fine job despite the uh pressure of the uh state legislature for us to adopt something
artificial. And I think that the formulas are going to work and we are going to spurn um proper affordable housing where uh we can keep people in their sunsetting years. I think I see no corruption or developers lining up or
doing anything untored and I think everybody understands the nobility of affordable housing here. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments, questions from the governing body? Yansancy, can I have a roll call,
please? Councilwoman David, yes. Councilman Rosenway, yes. Councilman Toker, yes. Councilman Wilson, yes. Council President Waski,
yes. Now we have ordinance 2527. This is an ordinance to amend and supplement chapter 250 titled land use creating town center overlay zone district. I'm now going to um actually before I I start the public hearing uh
Bill do you want to just uh explain what this is? Uh yeah, this is to be consistent with the master plan that was adopted by the planning board to permit uh an additional use on the first floor or
first level in that area um relating to the um certain types of medical uses which are currently prohibited. It's uh it would uh allow street level medical uses um in
that area. And again, it it is consistent with the master plan which duly adopted this uh back in June, I believe. Uh so that's what this overlay would permit in that area of town.
Okay. Thank you. I'm now going to declare the public hearing on this ordinance now open. Anyone who desires to be heard or to ask questions concerning this ordinance will be heard at this time. Um, we have Diane Jansen with her hand raised.
Go ahead, please. Uh, unmute. Yes. Hello. Diane Jansen, 589 Ridgeland Terrace. I really think it's a travesty that our major employer uh which is Angwood Health is located in
a floodprone area and here now people are talking about bringing in Amazon to the downtown area at town center further clogging our business district
uh putting pressure on the traffic and no parking with sick people. I I just can't believe that this is even being considered. Uh and I really feel it's a slap in the face uh to uh those uh who
have been committed to Anglewood. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry, it's been a while since I've done this. Uh, next on the list is Suzanne Mullings. Please unmute.
Hello. Yes. Hello. Hi. Go ahead. We can hear you. Can you explain to us what part of the master plan that this is now in line in alignment with when it was brought in
front of the zoning board and deemed not to be aligned with the master plan by a member of the planning board at that time? Do you have any other questions? I believe they're waiting for you to ask
all your questions before they answer. Oh, no. That's my only question. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. No one else has their hand raised. Okay. I'm now going to close the public hearing for this ordinance. Can I have a
motion that ordinance 2527 be adopted? So moved. Have are we now going to have discussion from the council before vote? We we have uh discussion always after the second. I don't have my paperwork. Miss um
President um which which ordinance is this? I don't have it in front of me. Could you read it out publicly, please? 2527 through Amazon doing the medical business medical center at um on Palisad Avenue downtown.
I have a second by the way. Thank you. Thank you for the second. And and and no, it's it's not what it is. It's an ordinance to amend and supplement chapter 250, the land use creating town center overlay zone district. And um in
our packet that we got um there there's a copy of the ordinance um and here. So in in it
um uh Mr. Bailey, I'm I'll let you answer Miss Mullen's question, but um just if you look at the ordinance itself, it gives you the date on uh May 22nd, 2025 where the planning board
amended their 2025 plan permitting limited medical office on the first floor of town center. So that so it's right in the ordinance itself, but I'll let you um answer that question. Yeah. I mean, I don't have the master
plan in front the entire document in front of me and I don't know what previously was granted or denied. No, no, Mr. Bailey, that's what I'm saying to you. It's It's in the ordinance. What? But, but the master plan does I'm quoting a paragraph from it. I don't have it was it was in an amendment.
I know. I'm just reading from the planners memo, but create a town center overlay. replace the previously repealed MURR overlay zone with a new towel center overlay zone uh block 241 lot 1.01 and permit ground story medical
group practice as defined in eggwood city code 250-58. So this action if adopted is consistent with that section of the master plan. Right. So so so that's the answer. The
answer is the planning board amendment amended their master plan and they adopted um this as part of their master plan and then um so that's why it's consistent with the master plan and then
this after we did our first reading it went to the planning board and Mr. Bailey, do you want to just talk about the consistency review that the planning board did and then sent back to us? Right. The So, as the council president indicated, the master plan amendment was
adopted I think on May 22nd, 2025. Thereafter, the ordinance was introduced by this body and in accordance with the municipal land use law was referred to the planning board to verify that it was consistent with the master plan. Uh the
planning board agreed and did confirm that it was consistent with the master plan. Hence, it's on tonight for the public hearing and possible adoption. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bailey. Are there any comments or questions from the members of the of the governing body? If
so, if you could just raise your hand. Okay. Mr. Wilson. Yes. Thank you. Um my consideration will be the same as before. Um as previously voted upon
on June 4th, 2025 as as a no when it was given to the planning board um it was it was referred to us because zoning had said no and wasn't sure we didn't get all the details. So when the planning
board did review it, we did not review any such documents that had impact to the downtown um parking congestion or any of and any of that that contains the
the traffic and the daily um congestion that we already have downtown. And on the June 4th meeting, I mentioned and I asked in regards to this application to where the parking would be because
there's meters directly in back. So in the fact that we haven't did a consistent study on how these new industries come into our town, especially downtown, especially because it's in the master plan. We as a body um
and the planning board and the zoning all the boards have the power to make adjustments and I think we move too quickly on many matters that consider that don't consider the livelihoods of our citizens. So just as we will move forward with this my my vote would be
consistently no because we have not done the proper studies for the traffic impact. So thank you madam president. Thank you councilwoman David. Um, thank you, Madam President. Um, you know, me going downtown um on Palisad Avenue is always
congested, illegal turns, and no one's obeying anything. And um with that there, if they I mean, we don't have enough like um it was a post I saw. I don't look at Facebook, but um they posted something the police officers posted something saying that we need
more police officers and more PEOs and everything. With that being said, that is a disaster. So with that building coming near, with that department coming in this building, it's gonna be a disaster. And I will vote no on this. And that's my vote because it's it's
horrible. It's deplorable. So that's all I'm saying. And thank you. Okay. Thank you. Any other comments from uh the governing body? Yes, I have a comment if I may. Um the testimony and the um proofs that were
put forward showed in truth that there was parking on premises and that this one dimminimous use of 4,000 square ft would bring a major medical conglomerate
to our city. Um this is in great part a new experiment for Amazon that is doing um teleaalth and has um selectively taken some sightes. The person who brought this forward Fred Fish is not
just a trusted father of the city um but is uh inexraably tied to the financial success, the parking, the mobility and the access. It was the board of adjustment that put a pediatrician in the middle of our central business
district. It's the planning board that's going to plan whether or not these kind of pedestrian uses in a post Amazon world would actually be beneficial to our city. If this is 4,000 square feet with parking on site and we're going to
have a healthy adjunct to the Anguit hospital presence that they have in our city in a way that doesn't compete but brings out more care and access to medical services for our residents. How can we not at least study this is what I
suggested and the governing body is putting it forward. Um, again, nobody has brought me anything other than conjecture and and anonymous posts in social media to think that we shouldn't embrace a group like this. Let's
remember it was a Congresswoman Alexander Aassiocortez that said no with the back of her hand in a flippant way in Long Island City. This is not going to happen in our city. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Um, Councilman
Rosenstewine. Thank you, Council President. Um, you know, we we're not voting on any particular vendor tonight. We're voting on on changing um this zoning. Um, so, you know, there might be a
vendor, you know, preferred right now, but that can, you know, we're changing this forever and and it could be different uh five years from now, five months from now. Uh but the but the key thing is you know the town center has had space there
for 20 years. Um and you know we don't you know and it's important to make sure that we don't have empty storefronts in town. Uh that's extremely damaging and you know retail has changed
tremendously over the past 20 years. Healthc care has changed tremendously over the past 20 years. Uh, so we need to adapt uh with the times with whatever the future brings in there. Um, so I'm I'm I'm voting yes tonight. Thank you.
Thank you. Um, I see everyone who spoke wanted to speak one spoke. Um, Councilman Wilson, do you want to speak again? I see your arm. I don't know if your hand if you didn't. Yes, my my hand my hand was up. Um the
may the mayor spoke something in regards to why we're not going to do something here. Here here's the beautiful thing about our structure. One person doesn't get to decide what the whole town is going to do. That's why we have these workshop meetings so everyone gets an
opportunity to share their opinion. Now mayor, you said something that the traffic study and the parking was provided. If that is true, I sure missed that memo and that piece in the package. So, please provide that with with for
me, please. I I would like to see that so I can tell my constituents that that they don't they don't have to worry about going to the eye doctor across the street or to um whatever stores close proximity to that because I I haven't
seen it. and if in fact that we're going to move those meters directly behind that. I I haven't seen that either. And and what's more concerning is we didn't put any um guard rails in place to make sure that when someone moves in, even
though those are our meters and that's their property, what happens to the seniors at that point that may and may not have handicap parking? That's the concern. Thank you, Council President. Thank you. And Councilwoman David, your
hand is still up. I don't know if No, Lisa, my hand was up way before Kevin Wilson and you went straight to Kevin Wilson. Um, it doesn't matter if you like me or not. I'm just putting it on record. But anyway, I'm just saying
that my statement is firm that we have a deplorable downtown on Palisad Avenue. Why are we gonna have an Amazon and you know no pun intended because it's a Amazon monstrous deplorable going
through the Palisate Avenue. Why are we going to have that that um here and you know financial gain like the mayor said he appoint all these people who do develop downtown and that's his only stronghold development. And you know
what? That fresh guy, okay, he wants this, he wants that. And you know what? I'm not voting for that. My financial gain is only with our constituents. And that's it. Thank you.
Does anyone else from the governing body wish to speak? Okay, Yansancy, can I have a roll call, please? Councilwoman David, no. Councilman Rosenw. Yes.
Councilman tooker. I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. Can you please nod your head or shake your head for yes or no? Yes. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Wilson. No. Council President Wasatski.
Yes. All right. So, the final vote is three yes, two no according to this bill. This is majority vote or two/3s vote. Majority.
Majority vote. So uh with that then motion passes. Okay. Thank you. Now we have ordinance 2528. This is an ordinance amending chapter 191 fees section 14 uniform construction codes of the code of the city of
Anglewood. Um Mr. Hoffman uh can you just explain this before I open this to the public please? Yes. Thank you council president. Um, this or this this ordinance will allow the governing body to reduce the fee for the temporary certificate of occupancy
from $45 uh per permit to $30 per permit. So, this was a review that had been done by the state and they recommended that the this uh this this permit fee be reduced and that's that's the intent of the ordinance.
Okay. Thank you. I'm now going to declare the public hearing on this ordinance now open. Anyone who desires to be heard or to ask questions concerning this ordinance will be heard at this time.
Right. We have one hand raised. Diane, please unmute. Diane Jansen. I I just don't understand why we're increasing fees for various
things that children use and we're decreasing this. It just doesn't make sense to me. State or no state. Thank you. Uh no one else says they're hand raised. Okay. I'm now going to close the public hearing of this ordinance. Can I have a
motion that ordinance um 25 28 um be adopted, please? So moved. Can I have a second? Second. Any discussion or questions from the governing body?
Yes. While we are doing this, when um I looked at my tax bill I got yesterday, it increased by $1,000 this year and um I can't vote on this because um if I'm paying only like 13,000 here and we had
a highest tax rate that I seen in years, um you know, I'm just doing the math, but this is ridiculous. I'm voting no. So that's all I have to say. Amazing. Any other comments from the governing body or questions? Yansancy, could I have a roll call,
please? Councilwoman David Hard. No for my constituents. Councilman Rosen, yes. Councilman Toker, yes. Councilman Wilson, no.
Council President Wasatski, yes. We now have ordinance 2530. It's an ordinance amending chapter 191-8 entitled fee schedule, fines, and penalties for violation of city ordinances. Mr. Hoffman, can you please
explain this before I open it up to the public? Yes, thank you, Council President. What this is is that um we have two uh two lots that were listed in in two
different sections of the uh code or the ordinance. So, we're eliminating one so that uh it's in so that they'll be in the proper location. So, the council is being asked to eliminate um the Engle
Street lot by the library. It's that is in section 25-049. And that will that um that lot will stay will be in the will stay in its proper section which is in 25-05.
The second item that the council is being requested to consider is that um the lot the safety the safety lot um is listed in 25-053
and it should be listed in 250052. So basically we had these two lots were were listed in two different sections of the ordinance. So, we're just eliminating uh the section that they didn't belong in so that there's no confusion going forward.
Okay. Thank you. I'm now going to declare that the public hearing on this ordinance is now open. Anyone who desires to be heard or to ask questions concerning this ordinance will be heard at this time. Great. Um we have two hands raised right
now. Diane, go ahead. Please unmute. Um, yes. Diane Jansen, 589 Ridgeland Terrace. Uh, Mr. Hoffman, uh, this question is directed to, uh, you because I don't understand, um, can you just
simply explain without the numbers what you're doing with the library, if anything, and what is a safety lot? Thank you, sir. All right. Did you have any other questions?
No, thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Um, next person is Raymond Diaz. Please go ahead and unmute. Yes. Uh when I go to the library, I park at anywhere where it's available. I
didn't know that there was sectioned off by letters or something and the the fines that you provide. Are there any signs there that say that if you park more than so many minutes, you're going to be fined or something? It's that's kind of unclear to me. Even the McKay
park lot, I never knew. Again, there was a J, there was this, there was that. So, is it clear for the citizens just to notice? Is it a given? Um, what is it? Are we guessing that this Can you clarify that,
please? Did you have any other questions? That's it. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Uh, no one else has their hand raised. Thank you. Um, I'm now going to close the public hearing for this ordinance. Uh, can I have a motion that ordinance
2530 be adopted? So moved. Can I have a second? Thank you. Uh, Mr. Hoffman, uh, do you want to respond to the questions, please? Sure. I believe the first question from um, Miss Jensen had to do with u where
are where are the lots or what are we doing with the lots? Um, we're just we're just eliminating the lots were printed in two different sections of the code. So, we're we're we're taking them out of one section. Uh, there was another question about the safety lot.
That's the public safety lot. That's the lot across the street from the police department. Um, and then Mr. Diaz had a question about the signage at the library. And, um, there is signage there. I don't know if it is up to date, but we will we will
check on it. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions or comments from members of the governing body? Just raise your hand. Okay. I see Councilman Wilson's hand. Go ahead. Real quick, Mr. Hoffman, maybe you can
explain to my constituents cuz I could not um where they saw everyone else raised as far as the new fines except for the James Street lot. James Street lot appears to have stayed
at $20 and everything else went up to 50. Um and the complex went to 250. So I could not give a accurate explanation on why everyone else's went
up except uh 25-053.1 the James Street parking lot M as in Michael. Okay. you know the um again what we're doing this this ordinance is just eliminating
the duplicate the duplicate um I got it but locations but um what I what I it may sorry for interrupting but if this wasn't on the list the question would have never arose so now that it's on the list I got to ask because I've
been asked yeah and I don't what I'll do is I'll I will do research and I'll send a memo to the council about this because I I don't have I don't have that particular file in front of us and this was something that had been dis had been discussed uh
prior to the adoption of the budget. So I don't want to mislead the governing body. Okay. But you could see the citizens concerns. Well, yes. Yes, I yes I can. And I don't Yeah. And I I don't know what the former amount was.
Right. And I get it. This is for total something totally different, but it reveals something else. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome. Does anyone else from the governing body wish to make a comment or ask a question?
Okay. Yansancy, can I have a roll call, please? Councilwoman David. Hard. No. For my constituents in the third board. Councilman Rosenwide. Yes. Councilman Tokayer, yes. Councilman Wilson,
no. Council President Wasatski, yes. Okay, final vote tally is three yes, two no. Motion passes. Okay, we have no uh ordinances for first reading. Um,
does anybody before we go to the consent agenda, um, does anyone on the governing body wish to pull any of the resolutions that are on the consent agenda? Yes. Um, I would like to pull the
mayor's appointment for OEM. They're separate. Yes. Not on here. The mayor appointment for OEM. Is that on That's on the agenda. I got a separate email from the mayor. He got that there for the OEM. Okay. So, so we're looking now at
resolutions 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, and 210. And the mayor's appointment to the OEM is not one of those. Okay. So, let's look at resolutions 205 to 210. If there are any resolutions that
anyone in the council wishes to vote on separately, please let me know. 205 to 210. Okay. I don't know about a vote, but before before we move on, council president, there might need to be a clear decise um
uh for Excuse me, one second. 25. Hold on one second. Uh to 208. Okay. Okay. So, we we'll we'll talk about that
um when we go back into the um council discussion. Thank you. Council President, could you explain to the um to people who don't maybe have access to the agenda who would like to know um you know what these codes are
because there's people at home like okay we got the codes but we don't have the agenda. So, could you briefly go through it? I'm just asking. Maybe you don't want them to know. I don't know. Yansancy, do you have the agenda posted like for every meeting on the city website? Been posted since Thursday.
Okay. So, residents have access to the agenda. Uh, Yansancy, why don't you tell people where they can find the agenda, please? It's on the city website, www.c cityofwood.org, and there's a link for agendas. Just click on that and then scroll down to
today's meeting. Um, I'd be more than happy to go through the resolutions since there's not that many of them. Um, sure. I'll I'll read them out loud. I don't mind. And and and I apologize for interrupting. Um, I I found the other paper. If we could just give a clear um
precise answer on why uh we need to increase the bid threshold and why that's important. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um so so the way that we've always done the resolution consent agenda is we open it up for the
public uh for public comment and then we go into an internal discussion on the resolutions and vote for it. Um, so, uh, my inclination is to do it as we always do it, but since, uh, Coun Councilwoman
uh, David's concern that, uh, people don't have a copy of the agenda that's posted on the website, there's just a few of that resolutions. So, I'm I'll just read them by by title and then we'll go and follow our usual process.
Um, so we have resolution 205, that's to increase the bid threshold. We have 206, refunds due to overpayment of taxes. 207, refunds due to state tax appeals. 208 is approval to submit a grant application and execute a grant contract
with the New Jersey Department of Transportation for the Broad Avenue Sidewalk Completion Project. 209 is liqual license renewals and 210 is a resolution authorizing the appointment of municipal representatives to the Bergen County Community Development
Regional Committee. So, I'm now going to open the meeting for the public comments on the consent agenda resolution. Members of the public are requested to state their name before speaking remind and the rem and are reminded to speak
only on the resolutions that I just read uh to you. And again, if you need to see it, uh the city clerk did give directions as to where you could find it so that you could tell us which resolution uh you're speaking about. Um
so again, Yansy, I'm now opening the meeting for public comments on the consent agenda resolutions. Okay. Um first in Q is Suzanne Lullings. Please unmute. I want to get clarification on the
resolution regarding broad a sidewalk if you don't mind. I know you've directed us where to find the agenda, but because this is an untraditional format, I don't have it in front of me. So, if
you would be so kind to let us know what exactly the sidewalk on Broadav is uh potentially going to what's going to be done if you don't mind. Thank you. That's the only question I have. Thank
you. Okay. Sorry. Next in Q is Horus Frag. Please unmute. Boris. Hello. Could you hear me now? We can hear you now. Go ahead. Okay. Um, yes. I know that the agenda is
posted on the city website. I reviewed it. Um, I looking at it currently and there's now 209 for the for the residents to view. There's a 205 to 208 and missing is 209. So, I would like to
know why is a 209 missing from the agenda for the public and I don't think you guys should vote on it because we didn't have opportunity to look at it. There's no 209 on it. Is that it? That's it.
Thank you. Okay. Next in Q is Diane Jansen. Please unmute. Hi Diane Jansen, 589 Richland Terrace. Um, it was very hard for me to just get agenda up now and do a split screen with
you and you know I do this all the time and I do this with Zoom. Uh, so I don't understand how you would want the public to do this. Um, but the last item that the city council president referred to
was appointments. Can you explain what that group does and who are the appointments? Thank you. Or suggested appointments for vote. Thank you. Thank you.
Uh, no one else has their hand raised. Okay. Thank you. So, we we will answer the questions and have a discussion. But before we do that, I just need a motion and a second. Uh, can I have a motion to approve resolution
205 through 210? So, move. Can I have a second, please? Second. Okay. U council president, I don't have 209 in my package. Okay. Um, thank you. Um, so Mr. Bailey,
I'm just going to before I ask the questions over to Mr. Hoffman, I want to ask you first, Mr. Bailey. Um, the the question was raised about uh, resolution 209 not being on the city's
website. Are we still able to vote on that? Yes. Okay. And Yan. Okay. So let's just start at the beginning where we have the questions. Um first we have a question um Mr. Hoffman on resolution 205. Do you
want to explain that please? Yes. Thank you council president. What this resolution does is it raises the the bid threshold from the current $44,000 to $53,000. every five years
in in July the state uh the state increases the bid threshold. So what this means is that uh projects that the city's the city wants to accomplish um if the project is going to be under
$53,000 we do not have to go out to bid. If it's $53,000 or or above we would go we would go out to bid. We would do the RFP for it. Right now that limit is at $44,000. So what this does is this helps account
for inflation. Um and the the state will look at this again in five years. So this is something that's re recommended that all municipalities do. Um thank you. Um Mr. Mr. Hoffman, the next
uh resolution is 208. Can you explain um what this uh application is for? And that's the Broad Broad Avenue Sidewalk Completion Project. Yes. Uh this is a grant application that
totals $716,94. And this is something that um has been reviewed with our with our engineer and our our grant writer. And this is this is more than sidewalks. This is for basically the reconstruction of Broad Avenue between Van Norstran Avenue and
East Lynen Avenue. So, if the grant is awarded in the full amount, uh we will be able to do underground drainage work there. We'll do curbing, we'll do sidewalk, um and then we will do repaving of the road. So, uh this is
this is a way to help the city leverage its funds. though we're applying for we're applying for a grant so we can totally reconstruct this section of Broad Avenue. Thank you. Um on resolution 209 um uh Yansy, are you able to um read the
liquor license renewal since it wasn't available? I'm going to explain real quick why it wasn't available. So, uh we had the full resolution for the liquor license renewals at our last meeting. Uh we had a few stragglers. we were waiting on them to complete their paperwork, but
because our meeting was so early um in the month in June, we had a few that got their paperwork done after our meeting. Uh so there's four right now and I really was waiting cuz I still have three more that I haven't heard from. Um and I was hoping to get them on, but we
have four liquor license renewals who were able to get their paperwork done and completed and everything uh approved by the state. Uh we have Ideal Lodge, Congregation Ahava Tora, Lulu Lounge, and Gettenburg uh which is the Anglwood wine merchants. So they were able to
complete their paperwork. Um they got adant permits and they're good to go for renewal. Thank you. Still don't have the hotels? No. No. And we will have three more I'm waiting on. So they might just be separate resolutions as time goes on.
And then we have uh resolution uh 210. And um and the reason the names I guess were not on the um on the public agenda and correct me if I'm wrong is because we had to discuss them first in close
session today and that's why it wasn't on um on the on the city website. And Mr. Hoffman, do you want to explain uh please what these appointments are for? Certainly. Council President, the appointments in resolution 210 are for
the community development block grant uh for the regional the regional committee. So the city of Inglewood is in a in the I'll call it the southeast Bergen region along with Fort Lee and several other communities. So there are two
appointments of the mayor and there are two appointments of the of the city council. the city needs to appoint representatives so that we can go to these countywide meetings and um and advocate on behalf
of the city for community development block grant funding. Thank you. And since we're voting on tonight, uh can you just just give the names so the public uh hears the names of who we're voting for?
Would you like me to do that? Oh, sure. Yeah. Okay. So uh these are these appointments are uh reappointments of representing the council will be Councilman Rosenwig and city manager Bob Hoffman and representing the mayor will be the mayor
and uh Douglas Burn or Doug Burn. Thank you. Um now um any discussion uh by the governing body just please raise your hand. Okay, Councilman Wilson.
Thank you, Council President. Um, Mr. Hoffman, could you explain um when we raise the threshold uh because oftent times people are confused when I won't say small jobs because um
$53,000 still a lot of money. Um and local contracts want to be privy to some of these things. Um, c could you could you elaborate a little bit more on how we
pick when when they don't go out to bid? Uh, certainly, Coun Councilman Wilson. Thank you. What we Yeah, you're welcome. What we would wind up doing is we would we would solicit proposals. Um, so if it's under if it's under $53,000, we we
would solicit proposals and we would put something out that's that is in writing. Um, it's not as formal as a request for proposal, but we would uh we would make sure that we had uh we we we attempted to get at least three three quotes for
work. So whether it's for um roof repairs or fencing or something like that, we would we would wind up uh getting getting the quotes. So um it's it's mandatory that you have written quotes of uh if if the the cost of the
project is going to be or the the goods you're buying is going to be over $7,950. So $7,950 to 53,000 we we would get written quotes and then um un under that if there's you
know we we can we can solicit via via email or via telephone things like that. So if we we needed to purchase something quickly, we can go out, use our use our sheets and solicit three quotes, you know, for cleaning materials, whatever
it is that that we might need that's that we need it immediately. So does that answer the question? Thank you. Because when we say that it doesn't go out to bid, some local contractors are confused and don't put in proposals. And I just wanted to be
stated that the two are not the same. That they still are allowed to put out proposals. It's just not going out to bid and that's totally different. So, thank you. Sure. You're welcome. Uh and um
Okay, go ahead. I I'll wait for the rest. Council President. Okay. Thank you. Any other comments from members of the governing body? Yansancy, can I have a roll call, please? Councilwoman David,
yes. Councilman Rosenway, yes. Councilman Tokayer, yes. Councilman Wilson, yes. Council President Wasatski, yes. We have no resolutions for discussion, no ordinances for
discussion, items for discussion. Um so I just want to remind um the governing body that on May 20th so actually I see that is I see Mr. Ragbear is is still is here a member of the public and um Mr.
Ragbear in the beginning of the year um actually re requested that we have liaison reports and um and I appreciated that comment because the f the first two years I was on the
council there was we never formally uh had liaison reports as an item for discussion. So, thank you uh for that that recommendation. And on May 20th, um those of us on the governing body who
were on the count at the council meeting gave liaison reports, but unfortunately, Councilman Rosen, Swagen, Wilson, um were not able to give their liaison reports on May 20th. So, that's why um
we have them on the agenda today. And I'm gonna and I have Councilman Rosen Swag started with the starting with the traffic advisory committee liaison report and he's going to give the SID report at a at a different time at his request. Um so Councilman Rosenwag
traffic advisory. Hi. Thank you council president. Um so you know as uh most people here know um and the traffic advisory committee met once in 2022
and did not meet at all in 2023 or 2024. Um so uh there had been a lot of uh public input that had not been received over that time through this official channel. Obviously, people still
communicate um you know with with their council people or or or members of the city government and city administration. Uh but we wanted to you know set up uh the meetings again and get into a good
rhythm with it. Uh so it's a quarterly uh committee. So we had our first meeting on March 26th uh 2025 and our second meeting uh just two weeks ago on June 25th uh 2025.
Um the the uh there are representative representatives from uh all four wards a very good group. Um, and Sergeant Sean Eisenat is the um is the representative from the police
department. Uh, Ensenot, I'm sorry. I'm very sorry about that. I had misspelled it. Um, and uh, and we had a very the first meeting was a very uh, uh, a lot of good suggestions. People had been uh, building up for for many
years uh, for suggestions for the committee. Um, I won't go over everything that was said, but I think some of the important issues uh were, you know, some of um uh the the striping
to make sure that uh the um the fire trucks when making turns that cars would not be in their way. Uh you know, into into the box. Um you know, because the trucks obviously need to make a very
wide turns. Um, so, uh, uh, the sergeant, um, uh, made sure that those were areas were restriped, uh, to, uh, to help with that. Um, there were concerns brought up, and I'll just
give a sampling of some of it. um uh the uh you know speeding in in front of the Dismiss School uh uh certain streets where the uh wheelchair ramps were not easily accessible and if th
those could be um modified. Um uh and some of the things that have already been acted on uh were uh some additional stop signs have been placed on Davidson for example
and um and also some increased enforcement so there wouldn't be double parking on West Palisade Avenue especially in front of no Chase Day Colombia. Uh so uh you know so quite a bit of um you
know individual issues brought up at the meeting. Um and if anyone uh from the public you know that these meetings are open to the public uh but if anyone from the public has any uh specific concerns uh they can email uh Sergeant Entinat.
Um I'll just get I'll just spell out his email uh for everyone. s en sen a t at anglewoodpd.org or um and if there are any specific traffic concerns that you want to bring uh to
the committee, he'll make sure the other on the agenda, our next meeting is scheduled currently for September 24th. Uh but that will need to be changed as uh that evening starts the the holiday of Rashashana. So obviously uh that's
not going to be a good good day for it. Uh, I imagine we'll move it a week earlier to the 17th or so, but um, but we'll make sure that information gets out to the public. You know, it's typically the last, um, a Wednesday of the month in December.
That would be December 24th. So, obviously, I think we've already moved that one to December 17th. So, uh, so we'll just make sure those holidays are um, uh, are not are not overlapping there. Um, so thank you very much for that opportunity. and uh um and I'll be
uh happy to present the the SID at uh at our at a future meeting. Okay. Thank you. Councilman Wilson, can you please give us a planning board report? Yes. Good evening everyone. Uh thank you for attending.
Uh you we usually try to have our planning board meetings um on a Thursday and they're consistent with 7:30 and uh we had one on May 1st, May 22nd, June 5th,
uh June 26 when we were discussing the planning board, I mean, excuse me, when we were discussing affordable housing, we had an opportunity to meet the public in person
which was very impactful. The first meeting that was scheduled in person, the attendance wasn't as well as we thought it was and the mayor um ushered in and said that we should postpone it
and most of us agreed so the the attendance would be better. Um, the only problem with that when we had solutions or or the our constituents contributed and said what they didn't
like, we were under the time constraints of the affordable housing for June 30th. And so there's heavy discussion going on still as we speak, as we had to make the deadline for June 30th. So we had to
push it to the council which the council approved and so now that we're in with the state we are we are supposed to be covered without builder's remedy and that's the purpose of the deadline and that's the
really the purpose of um us considering the master plan which we also did during those months uh for the planning board. And so without those particular meetings, we couldn't have come to a
educated decision to move forward with our present need um for affordable housing and our met need for affordable housing. So I would suggest that
we get together as soon as possible in these planning board meetings and so you can attend and it won't take to the end for us to be under a deadline. So, we have a meeting coming up uh this Thursday, which I believe is uh July the
10th. And um I am not actually making this up, but there is a new restaurant coming that's applied and it's called Chop Chop Chinese.
And uh where is it? It's uh uh where is it at? Okay. I think it's uh I think it's 18 18-22 Engle Street. And this is what we'll be discussing on
Thursday, June 10th. June 10th, I mean July 10th, forgive me. And uh we have a medical office at 240 Humphrey Street and 241 William Street proposing a medical building for research and it's
in the proper zoning. So, we will see how that application moves forward. Please join us. Give us your participation. We can't do this thing without you. Thank you, Council President. Okay. Thank you. Um, Mr. Hoffman, will
you discuss, please, measures the city takes during heat waves? Sure. Uh, thank you, Council President. When the city has a heat wave, um, and the heat wave is defined as something that's 90° or above, um, there are there
are steps that are taken, the, um, the the police uh, when they're on patrol, they're they're they're monitoring and and looking for people that might be in in distress, might need some hydration. Um, also our um, if if we need to, we
the library is our cooling center. is our designated cooling center. So, uh people are able to go to the library to um to cool off and also to get to get water. Uh that's also managed by our OEM
coordinator. Um this the recreation department uh opens up the pool to all residents whether whether you have a membership or not and you're able anywood resident is able to use the
McKay pool to cool off and um if we need additional resources we work with Bergen County. They have resources that are available to us and everything from additional water or cooling stations, things of that nature. So those those
are the basics that we we work on for uh to to make sure that we have cool a cooling center that's available for our resident. Our fire department has been great when they receive calls that um that you know air conditioning might be out in a house and there is elderly
there might be an elderly resident that's there. They uh they go and they they do welfare checks the um to to make sure that they're okay. and they've um they've also offered assistance to get to get some of our residents to uh you
know to a cooler location. So that so that's the that's the report in general. Thank you. Does anybody from the governing body have any comments or questions? I've got a I've got a quick question. Um thank you Mr. Hoffman for the report. Uh
I got two phone calls um during those that heat blast where the elderly didn't drive. Um, and so maybe we can advise, you know, you said we have county help, but there's certain
individuals that can't can't make it, Bob, to the um Golden Station. And the second thing I'd like to add is that um could you explain about the 90 and above days at 1:00
how the pool is free? I think it is. Sure. and and count Councilman Wilson, if if there are if there are people that we you know that you know that um that can't make it to the cooling station, if you can make sure that we have their name so that they can be they can be
checked on um that would be helpful. That's that's part of the key to making sure that everybody's okay. Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you. And then um with with the pool we can use today as an example. The forecast was that it was going to be over 90° today and it was going to be
over 90° by 11:00. So, um, so and you know, a text and an eblast was sent out um that said that the pool was the pool was open to any Inglewood resident today. Uh the pool hours are
from 1 1:00 1:00 on and so your re residents are are are welcome to come to the pool and and cool off there. Thank you. Thank you, Bob. Sure, Councilwoman David. Thank you, Council President. Um my
concern is that the same thing that um Council um Mr. Wilson said is that my concern is that I received numerous phone calls and I did call him and I was like what ward is this woman in third fourth but she's in my ward um she was
crying she called me she was hungry her gas was cut off the landlord was treating her like it was deplorable situation the firefighter came out the medics came out soelli came out also and they offered to take her to the um
cooling center because she doesn't have a car and um we need to put measures in place for transportation for seniors when it's hot on a day like that. Not everyone can walk to the library. You I mean I'm just saying that I mean it
could be a resident from the third ward uh fourth ward they cannot walk to the library. How are they going to get there? So we need to work with our local church and other communities Bergen Family Center etc. to say, "Hey, let's work together. Some type of busing is
needed for these seniors to get there." Um, but um Joe was great. He called um everyone. They would put them in a hotel and everything. And she said, "No, I better sleep in my bed." You know, she's um West Indian like my West Indian background also. But um she was more or
less like saying, "You know what, Angie, thank you." That people bought her water. Even Amy even got her a fan. She put on Facebook. Amy Bulock put her on Facebook saying, "I need a fan donation." Someone from Tene donated a a fan to her and an air conditioner was
installed. Rick Wilby, I know people don't like him, but you know what? He even bought this woman water and food. People pitched in from the first w also. So, African-American who live in your ward, Ken, who pitched in and bought her food. And that's what community is
about. and they did call our councilman at large who didn't respond and I called him and he wasn't happy because I called him on a Sunday but I'm not going to go there but um that's what community is about. I'm just saying that you know um this woman needed help and you know what
I was glad that we had a village that was there to help her and thank you council president. Okay, thank you. Um, next we have
dog park. And also I, you know, I just I I actually would I'm going to let Mr. Hoffman speak for a minute about it, but first I I want to I wanted I think it's an important conversation for the council to have about in general. Um, I
don't I don't know what your what everyone's experience is, but I I could just share my experience. My experience is every time, you know, I'm in McKay Park fairly often and when I'm there, they're either I I I'm always seeing
dogs on a leash and dogs off a leash. And there's supposed to be no dogs in May Park. And back over a decade ago, there was a discussion um as part of the McKay Park vision plan. And at that time
people were very adamant they didn't want a dog park in McKay Park and they didn't really they didn't want dogs in McKay Park. And since co um a lot more people and this is again this is observational. I don't have data
to back me, but but I I see a lot more people, people that didn't have dogs, a lot of my friends, my neighbors just walking in May Park, I see a lot more dogs around than I did then. And and a
few times in May Park recently, people have approached me and said and said to me, why can't our dog why can't we have dogs in McKay Park? and and then people have approached me and said and this is in Mccay Park out of you know just even
just even in town and asked about another dog park. So that's just kind of the background of why I've been thinking about dogs in general because this is my and even and even last week I was with
Mr. Bertner and we went to McKay Park and right when we drove drove on the William Street entrance there was a gentleman with two dogs off their leash and I said and I said to Mr. Burkner you got to tell them you know dogs can't be
off you can't have dogs at McKay Park and you know and certainly I mean you can't have them off the leash but you can't have them in May Park and Mr. Burkner went to to tell the gentleman but what Mr. Burkner was was also showing me was um a piece of property
and it's it's um so if you come in the William Street entrance of McKay Park so if you to the north you have the playground that the TIFF center uses and that residents use and that we have a
grant it's going to be replaced and we have that parking lot and if you go to the south there's a really nice size piece of property that's empty. And the suggestion from Mr. Hoffman and Mr. Burkner was why
don't we take that piece of property? The parking is already there. So if you have an elderly person who really, you know, you don't have to walk into McKay Park, you could take that piece, you could pull in, park there, and you can make that into a dog park. And it could
be done uh pretty inexpensively, pretty quickly. It's a big enough space that you could divide it. So, I I'm talking about it. I said, "Mr. Hoppin, you'll talk about it, but I started and I just couldn't stop." So, we could, you know, we could separate it. Um, you know, I
didn't even know this, but Mr. Burkner explained to me, you have a big dog park and a little dog park. And, um, and that's what other places have. And over if you go to Overpek Park and I and we went to look at their park, they have a similar size dog park divided big dog
park, little dog park. And so, but the nice part about McKay as opposed to Overpek is in Overpek the parking is really far so you have to walk the dogs through the park. So, so there really two things that that that
and I think everybody we we all got an email from a resident also. I think it was was it about dogs in May Park? Yes. Is that Yeah. So, we also got an email about dogs in McCay Park. I think everyone in the governing body got a copy of that. So those are two separate issues, but I
think that it's really important that we get feedback and I think I think that dogs and McKay Park is a really big discussion. I think something like that we need to get resident input, do surveys, you know, that's something, you
know, I don't think that we we I think I would want I we would really need public input for a decision um like that. And I'd also like input and we would like input about that area west, no, sorry, not west, south of the parking lot,
making that into a dog park because like again, you don't have to walk the dogs in the park. You could park just go right there and it has a fence and it's separate from from the whole park. So, um I think Mr. Hoffman, did I did I kind of cover everything?
Yes, you did, Council President. you know, that's the um that seems to be the ideal location because people can also um they can park, you know, if they have a child and they have a dog, they can they can park in one location, they can, you know, they can take their dog to the
park for to the um you know, to to the dog park for a while and then they can go they can go have their child use the uh use the playground over there. So, um you know, this is this is something that um has been looked at by you know, as you said, Mr. Burkner, myself, Fran
Vulce. Um, it goes back to Mr. Jenkins when he was the DPW supervisor super director. We, you know, we we looked at that lo at that as a potential location for for a dog park. Okay. So, I I you know, I think we would
love to hear from the governing body what they think about this and and both ideas and how you think we should move forward or not move forward. I see Councilwoman David has her hand up. Thank you, Council President. Um I think
it's a great idea. Um also, we need to also speak with our um Senator Gordon Johnson, maybe get a grant because everyone will pick up dog poop. I'm just saying. I mean, I see people walking dogs and I even caught them because I have a camera in front of my house that
they just came on my grass. I'm like, uhuh, come back. Pick up your pick up your mess, you know? So, we need to have this like unified. So, I think that you need to speak to Gordon Johnson as well as far as a grant for like disposal bags to pick up the poop, you know, you know,
like little things out there um and everything like that. But a lot of kids do play in the park and I don't want them to be like stepping on poop that people don't clean up, you know, it's messy. Um but I think it's a wonderful idea, council president, and thank you.
So, so you like the idea of the dog park. What do you think about dogs on leashes in McKay Park and how we should get public input for that? I think um council president um I think we should have them on leashes and I
think that um what you're in a right direction with this one because I have a dog myself. My my family has a dog. We always have dogs. We have a dog here named Bella. But um it's a great idea and I think that's great and also um you
know go for it move with it but I think that they should be fined and I think also the new development coming in should also pay something toward this you know um you know this um what we doing right now. So, I think when we
doing this new development um with um new housing and everything and they don't even have their own little dog park, we should take a percentage of that and say, you know what, we have a park here and make them and tax them on it and say, look, you're going to pay the city of Englewood because if you're going to have owners saying that, you
know what, um I'm paying $52 a month for a dog, then you know what, where your dog going to walk? He's walking in our backyards and not in my backyard. So I basically think that the home the people that we have coming here who's going to
construct development need to know they're using our city parks and I think we need to talk to that. That's a separate conversation you know because I understand that me coming from a real estate background um and also a teacher I just know that
um I worked for theians. I was once I was worked here I was a property manager for Amians but I'm just looking at it for a different p a different perspective that if you're going to come here and you build a building and you say oh we accept cats dogs and we going to pay a
fee and you have no nothing developed there for that cat and dog then where you going to work your cat and dog you know so you know the cats you know they have a litter box so I'm just saying a dog itself that they should paying something toward the city of
Inglewood a fee so they can also walk that dog. You understand? And thank you, council president. Um, but we can go on and on with this. I don't want to go back and forth with the real estate issue, but I think they should pay into it by is a buyin. I think they should do
a buyin with every developer coming here should do a buyin with the city of Inglewood to make sure they pay for all of this, you know. And thank you, council president. you. Thank you. Uh, Councilman Wilson. Yeah. Briefly, um, I too, um, I know Bob
might be shocked by this. I used the workout equipment in the park. Um, and I I didn't say for long, but I use it. Um but um dur during that brief um walk
whatever direction I'm coming through um there is uh there there are messes that aren't being cleaned up. I've seen dogs without leashes. Um and the threatening part is it it only takes one time for a child to
get bit if you will. And so my my concern is, you know, ordinarily I would say that's a great location and the flag football guys and the four would have to find somewhere else to play because usually that's where they play on that short lot in the grass. Um my concern is
that it's directly adjacent in between the parking lot and the playground. Um, I I I don't know how that works because in Overpack they they walk it they let the dogs go without a leash obviously in
a doggy park playground. Um, I would just want to have some type of accurate containment. And until we get to that point, I would just like to see us do some enforcement, have some teeth. Uh, I spoke to one gentleman and he's like,
"Well, where else am I going to go?" I says, "I'm not really sure, but you're not allowed in here." And he didn't have his dog on a leash, and I'm quite sure every pet owner believes that their pet is tamed. Thank you.
Thanks. And just just uh to clarify, the piece of property uh for the dog park that Mr. Burkner um showed me, it's it's so it's not next to the playground. So we
the only the only piece between it is a parking lot. I'm I'm very familiar with that. Oh, okay. I'm very familiar. And so my fear is um the dog jumps out of the jeep, the SUV without a leash and charges to the right
or the left to the playground. That's my only fear. Okay. Right. So, they they'd have to uh be walked on a leash into the play into the um into the dog park and then let off the
leash once they're in the dog park. I think I think I'm not a dog owner, but I I think if some Dan, you're a dog owner. Um isn't that normally Oh, Angela, you're also a dog owner. So, isn't that normally what you do in in a dog park?
you'd have the dog on the leash and then Yes, council president. We have a dog on a leash and you know what? I go to um Tennerfly, which is closer to me because I'm on a board of Tennerly where I live in the third ward and I go there and we keep the dog on the leash and you know
that's what you do. You keep your dog on a leash. That's not what happens in Overpack. You guys already know that. They're jumping over the the parks and this and that. And and I get it. When I had a dog, I believe my dog to be trained as well. And that there's certain points when
they get out of the car, sometimes not so much they're not on a leash. But all I'm saying is that, you know, it's a it's it's a huge conversation. Um and and until we get to that point, I'd just like to see some enforcement. Yes. And I agree with you. Um council,
thanks. Any any other comments from members of the governing body? Yeah, I have a thought. Um, I think there are competing values here. There are interests that people have who have dogs that want to walk them where they
want and it's our central park and I understand their interest in actually having it someplace in the park. They may not appreciate the gesture um on the side. And I think the councilman's concerns about a dog, god forbid,
jumping into a parking lot or ongoing traffic is something that has to be logistically accommodated. But we also have other competing interests throughout the city where the health department sometimes does a very good
job and then sometimes it lacks some teeth or enforcement as Councilman Wilson indicated and that is when people bring dogs into food establishments and the law is very specific if it's a comfort dog or a psychological adjunct
as opposed to a recreational interest and between are many municipalities in the one county of Bergen and Manhattan, there are different laws about health code with food establishments and so forth. So I think if you embark on this
and you want to infranchise dog owners and make them feel welcome and not putting the dog in jeopardy, we have to use all of the social media and the communications that we have to advance all of these things at the same time.
You can look for a dog park, but if you don't look at the Starbucks and all the other places where people are bringing their dogs in improperly or it's not being posted, then you're going to step or breach somebody else's concerns, whether they're allergies, fears, or
otherwise. So, I think we need to embrace the subject generally, and we should try to accommodate all the concerns. So, you asked uh Angela how you would uh want to do this. I would have a town meeting on this subject, frankly.
Thank you, mayor. Appreciate you resolving. Uh, any other members of the governing body? Okay. I didn't I didn't see Did Did anybody else want to speak? So, we voting on this resolution right
now? No, this is a discussion. I Okay, we're not voting on nothing. There's nothing. We we're not we're just getting input. We're just and I and and I think what I'm hearing what I'm hearing and Mr. Hoffman, you
know, tell me what you think, but what I'm where's M there you are. But what I'm hearing is just existing. We need better enforcement right now for dogs off the leash or or dogs I guess not um
being curbed, I guess, is the term, you know, in the parks. Um I think and the mayors mentioned um we need enforcement better enforcement which was with dogs in
in um food establishments. That's one input. Um then the suggestion for public input via a town hall um from the mayor. We we could we can
talk about that too. And and then we're talking about it seems like there's more in I I mean yeah I guess I guess I guess from the town hall we'll get more input from the public what the public wants to see and and we could take it from there. Does
what what do you think Mr. Hoffman? Does that Oh, you know, the the the key thing that we can work on is the enforcement and that's that that has, you know, we we we have four park rangers and we've been we've been doing more enforcement, but it um we have to do better we have to do
a better job all all over the city with the with the enforcement. Um and I wasn't aware I wasn't aware of the dogs being in in food establishments. So, um, we we need to figure out that that type of enforcement and we can we can start
looking at that tomorrow with the with the health department and the police department and and see what we see how see how we do that. Yeah, I think basic signage and and and notifications um could be enhanced um or education to
the merchants. Right. Okay. and and then um and then we could talk about a a date for a town hall and let's get public input and see where the public um what the public says. Go ahead, Councilman Wilson. I see
your hand is up. Thank you. Um just real quick, I'd like to give a heat advisory for the pet owners. I saw something about a month ago that was very remarkable um and that I think more pet owners should consider if they're not already doing it. It was
probably about 96 degrees and before the owner put his dog down on the pavement, he touched the pavement to see if it was hot to touch. Um, and then he put his pet down because as we all know, if we
go out to certain pavements without any socks or shoes on, it's very intolerable. So, it's the same thing for the dogs and the cats. So, be be wise for your for your pets. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. And the last item for
discussion is Mr. Hoffman um is going to talk about the fees for nonprofits. Um and the council has requested Mr. Hoffman to review the fees for nonprofits. Okay. Yeah. Thank Thank you, Council
President. So, uh, earlier this year, the the city did a did a revision and increased the some of the some of the fees for our for use of parks in different different areas. Um, we have
had we have had uh we continue to have good usage of our of our resources by by different groups and by not forprofit groups. We have areas that have I would call it heavy usage and then we
have areas where there's um and the heavier usage is um parking parking lots uh thing things of that nature or where there's going to be a lot of there's going to be a lot of traffic and there's the there's the um there's the potential
for uh for for having to uh do do extra extra work on on our resources to make sure that that they're available for all of the public. But one one of the things that um that that we have looking back over the last four years for our
applications are we have certain notfor-profit groups that um that do backpack giveaways or or things like that. And that could be considered light usage because uh they're either coming to city they're coming to city hall or
they're coming to the front of McKay Park and there's there's some kind of a there's some kind of an event that's happening but it's not um there's not heavy usage and not wear and tear. So, we're, you know, we're we're look we're looking at um make or I'm looking at
making some recommendations to the to the council that would that would differentiate between heavy usage of of uh city facilities versus um light lighter usage that's for the common good. And the back a backpack giveaway
is is an example of that. Um, so, so the count, you know, I'm going to be looking for some input from the council, but I wanted to I wanted to bring that out and there'll be a there'll be a memo coming out with some recommendations about that soon. Thank you. Any comments from the
governing body? Okay. Um, so now we have the approvement approved payment of the bills and claim resolution 211. Whereas the chief financial officer has certified and submitted a consolidated
bill and claims list for payments as well as a consolidated list of prepaid items. The prepaid items include emergency payments, wire transfers, and regularly scheduled monthly payments that are paid between bill and claim list dates. And whereas all bill and claims listed here with have been
encumbered and sufficient funds are available for payments. And whereas the required signatures have all been obtained on each voucher on the attached list. Now therefore be it resolved by the council of the city of angle that the bills and claims on the submitted
list are hereby approved for payment in the total amount of 1,872,410.36. May I have a motion to um approve the bills and claims? Move. May I have a second? Second.
Okay. Um, discussion. Any discussion from the governing body? Yansancy, can I have a roll call, please? Councilwoman David. Yes. Councilman Rosen. Yes.
Councilman Toker. Yes. Councilman Wilson. Yes. Council President Waski. Yes. I'm now going to open the meeting to the public. Any member of the public wishing to speak is asked to raise their hand
and to be placed in queue and to be called upon to speak. Speakers are requested to give their name and have three minutes to to speak. Okay. And uh just as a reminder, I'll be raising my phone with 15 seconds left and then once 3 minutes are up um I'll
close out the session uh your session. All right. Uh first in Q is Diane Jansen. Please unmute. Hello Diane Jansen, 589 Richland Terrace.
You know when it comes to dogs, I'm a dog lover. I'm a cat lover. I don't want them in my parks. I don't want them near children. I don't want other people's dogs near my dogs. There's so many priorities we have here
in the city. Like Mr. Hoffman, our city people still have not heard your presentation that you did at NJIT about flooding and what's going on here?
Why are we talking about dog parks when we should be talking about flood mitigation and what's going on and public input? It's beyond uh me. I just don't understand the priorities here. It's very disappointing.
Also, the fact that you don't even call up people to be on the screen when they're speaking. You know, it's bad enough that you've now gone to Zoom for these two meetings for the people
for one council person who could not attend. No one of you is that important. There's so much more I'd like to say, but I just can't believe that with all the things we have going on the city, we're talking about dog parks. Look, we
pay enough in taxes to the county. Go get in your car and go to the county dog park. That's all I have to say. Please up this game. The game is about
the people of Anglewood and being equitable. It's not about how our dogs are doing. Thank you. Thank you. Um, next in Q is Suzanne Mullies.
Please unmute. Hello. Hi, we can hear you. Okay. I have a few questions in terms of the heatwave. I I wanted to know if there was a number that seniors could call if they were in need, but I guess more so a clarification if they should
call the angle fire department because I don't know how they are doing wellness checks on people they don't know are in need. In terms of this uh dog park, I I just want to another clarification. And if you're uh referring to the area of
the park where there's a church, I'm not sure which one that holds outdoor church, but if that is a space, um I think it should be more than just a bright idea between council president and and such so that we please get
community input. If that is in fact the need, it may very well be. I don't know. But while we're so concerned with dogs, they are humans at risk in their car and out of their car on Broad A. So I did
put in an OpE request because I wasn't sure what prompted this move of the bus stop on Broad A only to get some old document. But nevertheless, in the document, it revealed that under state
statute, the power to designate bus stops meets the reside, sorry, within the municipality, not New Jersey Transit, which uh council president stated emphatically was the person or entity.
Still, that changed me. Hello. What's going on? Okay. That uh New Jersey Transit was the party involved to um remove the bus stop. The
new signage is unsafe. I don't know if you you um you know scale back on the budget, but those signs don't light up. There's a sign in the middle of the road that uh it um alerts uh drivers to slow
down. That sign was in the middle of the lane southbound for a week. So, I would like to know who's in charge of that particular uh impediment that impedes the traffic.
Also, the move, as I've stated before, makes no sense. You move the bus stop from Broad and Sheffield southbound and the one northbound creates a traffic debacle now coming off of Route 80, which is tolerable. I don't know why Mayor Wilds has not been more vocal on
this issue that he recommended you all uh revert your decision, but I would like to hear more of that. And I asked Stan to his opinion as well as counselor at large. I don't hear anything from him.
I also want to advise the public to go back and view the zoning board uh meeting that discuss this property on town. Thank you. Your time is up. Sorry. Thank you.
Next in Q is Horus Ragbear. Uh, please unmute Morris. Yeah. Hi. Um, we can hear you. We talked about the health risk of the the deer population in Englewood. And I think it's we still have to look at the
health risk of putting dogs in parks um for the kids, for our children, and for our future. We need to pay attention to that. I just have a small comment. Um, this was drawn to my attention a couple weeks ago. someone walked in my office. Um, Englewood needs a real counselor at
large person um with concerns and opinions of his own. I've been watching him and it's called participation. I've been watching him only answer his own vote and saying yes. We need real people that are concerned about the residents, are concerned and
have opinions of their own. Um, it's not a I don't want a yes man. I don't want a tiebreaker. I want a person that actually looking at the what the Englewood residents require and working to towards that goal. Um I can't even
say that I won't I won't disrespect you in any way, Dan, but I expect that you after 6 months you should be on your way knowing what's going on around us. All right? And um that participation is very important to me because I would like
from to hear from you your opinion about anything and everything that is going on around us. Not that the other four is making suggestions and the other four is making comments and the other four is giving opinions. I would like to see participation from you. This is just my
opinion. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, next in line is Raymond Diaz. Please unmute. Yes. How you doing? I have several comments. Uh, I read the last report that Miss Wascowski issued concerning
the Broad Avenue project. Uh, I just wondered why at at the last the last statement was made that a traffic study was required. Why wasn't this traffic study done in the beginning? Because now what is it? They changed it from two
lanes to one lane this way, one lane this way. You did all the striping and everything else. And by the way, we're going to do a traffic study. I think it should be the reverse. Uh I did attend a planning meeting. Uh there
was a comment made by Mayor Wilds. Uh I guess uh Kevin Wilson was trying to say that we were going to have a an appeals sometime in September and uh Lisa said there won't be an
appeal. I just found that why why why isn't this message united where everyone's saying the same thing. So right now I don't know I'm not sure if we're going to have an appeal or just going to go with the plan as is.
But Mayor Wals came out and said there was a uh he made a comment that there are people who come up with some voodoo thoughts or something like that. I think I couldn't hear that last word but he said voodoo and it's like everything was
cool until you said that. That is racist statement and should have never been used. Okay. I think the people, not only the residents, but even the council people, they should be, he should apologize to them because you're
creating this disparity between us. There's this trust and you're ridiculing the residents. When we when we we handled the Denning Park issue, you said there were 13 people who against that.
When you talked about the affordable housing, you said there were 39 people. I feel like we're being victimized now for voicing our opinions, right? My First Amendment rights are being
what? Questioned. I'm not a taxpayer. I can't say what I think should be constructive criticism and trying to help because we should be working together. But we don't we don't need that. Today he used the word conjecture.
Okay. So that's different. It's not it's not hitting between the belt or stuff like that. But I think you uh and I'm not going to say anything to you guys. I'm specifically talking about the mayor. And thank you. Uh I I I guess you get my point. Thank
you very much, Yansy. Have a nice day. Thank you. Right. Um, no one else has their hand raised. Okay. I'm now going to close the public session. Um, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Hoffen, do you want to
um answer any uh questions such as what number can a senior call that needs help in the heat? Uh yes, council president. What should happen is the um the dispatch center should be called. that's manned 24 hours
a day and they can um they can they can ask some questions, make an make an assessment and then make sure that the the correct people are are sent out. So it should it should be the dispatch center. Okay. Thank you. And
I you know, council president, if if you want the um let's see, the um I guess the the one one of the one of the numbers
that that can be called is 2011 5682711. Okay. Thank you. Um, I think the questions about New Jersey Transit and the bus stop, I believe the city engineer discussed that at at his presentation
and I think the police department had put out a press release on that. I think they answered that, but Mr. Hoffman, if you want to if you have any other information to to add, please go ahead. Yeah. Council President, I don't I don't
have that fi that file with me, but one of the one of the things that um uh you know the it had been talked about before, but also I I believe that um we can address it again at the August 5th meeting because the engineer is due to make a presentation on on a couple of
other matters. Um but uh you know a couple questions that came up from other people had to do with uh getting getting a opinion on the dog park. I believe that was Mrs. Mulling's you know there was something about the outdoor church but the the council I I believe wanted
to solicit um the the community's opinion on it. So there's going to be some kind of a town meeting in the future so that you know that was one of the questions that could be that could be answered. Uh then there was uh there was a a question I guess Mr. Diaz asked
about a traffic study that's needed. Usually traffic studies are needed when you want to put in a new traffic light. So I believe that um maybe maybe that's what was being referred to was you need to have uh you know if if we want to put in new traffic signals which we want to
do you do need a traffic study. So thank you. Okay. Thank you. Um, all right. Councilwoman David, do you do you want to I think I see I think I see your hand is up. Yes. Um, Council President, so my
understanding is that a traffic study is only done for a traffic light, not removing an entire bus stop. I'm just asking because bus stops also is a a study has to be done.
So if a traffic study is uh only done for a a stop, I'm just asking what study is done for a bus stop? I'm just asking. Thank you, Mr. Hoffen. Do you want to respond to
that? Well, the um what I'll reiterate what I had just said is that traffic studies are done for the for traffic signals or traffic lights. So, I you know, um there's there's a couple traffic studies that are being done because the city
wants to put in more traffic signals as um as we're looking at an increase in traffic. I get it. I get it. But what study is done for moving a a bus stop? I'm asking that question. What study is is done for moving a bus stop? That's my question.
Thank you. Okay. No, go ahead. What studies for bus are being moved? What study is being done? What study is what's the traditional study for moving a bus stop? You know, and again, I just uh you know,
I just said that these there are some questions that can't be answered tonight and they can be answered at the August 5th meeting. So, this will be one of those questions that will have to be answered at the August 5th meeting. Okay. Thank you, Mayor Wild.
Thank you. And again, I beg everyone's pardon that I didn't have my screen on, but I'm a little under the weather today. I first want to publicly apologize to Mr. Diaz for my poor use of vocabulary. It wasn't intended to offend anybody, and with my significant legacy
and tradition, as recent as raising half the funds for the Junth holiday, you know the kind of character that I'm cut from. Uh, as far as Miss Mullen's concerned, I still share the foolishness of how things have, uh, you know, unfolded on Broad Avenue. And I can just
tell you the amount of near swipes that we're seeing. Um, having changed all of this and then to conduct a study after the fact is insulting to very sophisticated people. My own wife can't get out of Allison Court because there
are cars parked now on Broad Avenue where historically we've never had parking impeding the the right of way for ambulances and everything else. I've asked a few times for the city uh uh manager's office to revert everything
the way it is, do the study, and then we can take protective measures. Right now, we have something that we never had before. Our whole personal prayer is that when Route 4 comes back, um it will relieve some of the pressure, but some of the people turning from one arrow
lane to the other are barely um avoiding swiping one another, let alone the hundreds of residents that now have to walk in this terrible heat and inclement weather to get to a bus stop that was once servicing so many people conveniently. Again, I urge the
governing body to kind of look at this as a matter of policy as it's impacting hundreds of people. Thank you, your mayor. Okay. Thank you, M. Um, Miss Mr. Bailey,
I I have a question for you. you know because is you know when engineering is is doing I mean you heard um you heard um Mr. Vulce give a report. We asked him to
come to the governing body to give a report because because many people we are all impacted by Broad Avenue and what's going on. I too you know am impacted. My my family is impacted. I
hear about it every single day. But I my understanding is that this is not a governing body policy issue. This this is this isn't the governing body saying well we have this was this was an
engineering issue this was a police issue how I mean is that I mean could we just go and say okay we want Palisate Avenue now to become four ways or I'm just trying to understand how and maybe Mr.
Hoffman, you can help. How is this becoming a governing body policy issue? I I I mean, there's stuff like res, you know, site improvement standards and things issued by the state, for example, in terms of road widths and how many lanes it can handle and things like
that. Um, but you know, it's a case-bycase situation. I mean, Mr. Hoffman, I mean I would like to understand that you know is this now does a governing body now making
decisions on roadways whether you know when when the city engineer tells us it's one way in each side and that's how it's supposed to be and the police say it's not safe and you know when when people made it two ways in each side.
Does a governing body are we able to make a policy issue on roadways and widths and and and and you you have you have you have to follow you have to follow the state standards you know and there's you know it the the
engine the engineer was out there the police department were out there there was there was meetings with New Jersey Transit there was sighteline issues there's issues related to um the Jones Road bridge overpass that's exacerbating the traffic on, you know, in in that
area. Um, this is and and again, this is this is not um this is not something that can be answered tonight. People want, you know, people want specifics and we don't have we don't have the specifics at our hand tonight. Um
but the governing body the governing body does not set the specific policy for um for roadway standards and widths and and line of sights and things of that nature. That's you know that's done by that's done by others. That's that starts with the engineer you know and
then it goes to traffic safety. there's there's a procedure, right? Because this never came to the governing body as a policy decision, you know, about about roadways in the city of Englewood or what they're or what they're doing on Jones Road. These and
that that's why I was confused because it was just said that the governing body should make a decision on this. I wish, listen, I wish we could we could there's so many things that impact our residents that we don't make policy
decisions for. And I just wanted to be clear on that because if this is a governing body policy decision, then I would like to know that, you know, and and and these traffic decisions have not been governing body policy decisions.
So if I'm missing something, please, you know, clarify it for the governing body at the next meeting. Please, Mr. Hoffman. Oh, at the next meeting. Yeah. Clarify what what, you know, whether the governing body all of a sudden, you know, do we have policy
decisions on on roadways and and how the engineer should do a striping and all that? I mean, if we do have, let us know because I, you know, that's that's why I'm asking that that question. This is the first time I heard that from someone
that this is a governing body decision. Uh, so I don't know, Councilwoman David, I don't know if you had your hand first or council, I had my hand first before um council. Okay. So then why why don't you go first then? My my question is that you know what
Lisa um council president, madame president that um how do we get here? How do we get to moving a entire bus stop that affects hundreds of people who are renting and even homeowners with the
condos across the street? How do we get there? Um I don't know if it was you Bob or whatever. I don't know what to believe. I don't know what to say. I am honestly devastated what happened in your ward. Do you understand? And my kudos go out
to whatever and this is honestly deplorable what happened in your ward. Um so my thing is that how we going to fix it? There's seniors who take the bus right there across the street who pay high taxes and now we went up 7% in
taxes. You know, I got my tax bill. I'm paying another thousand dollars a month a year. I thought I was a year in taxes. I got my tax bill. So, this is deplorable. So, I'm like saying that this is all a mess. So, whoever started
this should honestly go back to the old ways and put it back. I'm not going to blame anybody or anything, but if you want to if you have a conscience and you you trust God, whatever your religion is, just do the right thing. You
understand? And that's all I ask. put the bus stop back. You know, we all human. You're not going to be here, Lisa, in 20 well 50 years. You're not be Thank you for your comments. Thank you. Thank you. I'm I'm I'm signing off. Thank you.
Okay. But I'm I I don't understand the comments. Um you know, again, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman. Yep. again this this whole notion um
the city engineer went through this the governing body the council members I don't do not do not have that authority so
we're yeah I'm not sure you know I think Mr. Hoffen, I'm going to recommend that you have a private conversation with some individual council members so that they understand what the authorities of a
council person. You know, maybe it's time we need a refreshment course so people understand what the authority of a council member is. council members cannot cannot lift buildings and um there's certain
things that are within our scope and certain things that are not within our scope and I think that's part of the issue is we're going to need to have a refreshment course a I agree council members understand I agree
understand what what the authority of a council member is what they can and cannot do um does Mr. Councilman Wilson, did you have your hand up? Yeah. I I just think that um at this juncture
with constructive and smart minds among us that we would have figured out how this happened, who initiated, and how do we adjust the plan? Um it's it's just unsatisfying for myself
and plenty residents that live there that have to suffer through this tragedy getting off of 80. And I I wanted to experience it on on different days and I went down to come off of 80 to see OMG
what what a mess. So let's let's put our minds together, figure out because at this point no nobody can take no one can move things and no one knows who it is or why it was done. So let's
figure out what that is, how it happened. Was there a constructive reason for it happening? And if once we find out that reasoning, let's rethink the reasoning so we can um so we can
move forward for quality of life. Thank you. Yeah. And um and that's why we had the city engineer come and gave a give a presentation. Um I would recommend that people listen to the to his presentation again. and we have him coming back on
August 5th to address the council and the public uh and to give us an update. So to be fair to be fair, Madame President, that was over a month ago and people are still suffering and they still don't understand.
Agreed. Okay. Do you want would you do you think Councilman Wilson he should come earlier? I mean, it's just July 22nd and August 5th. Uh I mean, I know that right now. Well, we'll we'll ask him. We'll
have to ask him. I'll talk to him. He's he's scheduled to come on the He's scheduled to come on August 5th. Um here's the thing about that. Um, we we have certain traffic patterns when
school are in. And as you guys well know that the traffic patterns change dramatically during the summertime because everybody's out. You know, kids that are usually in school, they're driving. Relatives coming into town, they're driving. So, you know, we're
going to get the worst of it and then we're going to talk about it. All right. And I think I mean, we could see Mr. Hoffman, why don't you see if he's available to come at the next council meeting and he can discuss it? But uh and you can ask you, you know, and direct your questions to him because
he's the appropriate person to answer these questions. So, Mr. Hoffen, you you'll let us know. I will. I move to adjourn. Is there a second for that? I think Lisa is frozen. Is
No, I'm not I'm not frozen. I'm waiting for a second to adjurnn. I second. Okay. All in favor? I I Okay. Well, I don't know if we had an all in
favor. I don't know. I don't know if anybody else wanted to make a comment. So, no. Then you have to do a roll call because not every council person said I. Okay. Y do a roll call, please. It's just it's just unfortunate that we're in in the near the end of closing
a very important session and then we're just being cut off, but Okay. And then I would I would I withdraw my motion. This wasn't on the agenda. So I I get it. Ken, I I too am tired. I've
been traveling all day. I I get it. But this is a heavy cry for a lot of people, Ken. And And we're right We're right at the cusp. Yeah. And that's why that's why we discussed it two months ago and that's why in a couple weeks we'll discuss it again, you know. But we live in a city next to the second busiest highway in
America. I get it, Ken. But there's been no resolution. Route 4 has been closed for a long time now. And you know there unfortunately we're not the city council
didn't close Route 4 uh the Jones Road exit. They came to the city council back in 2009 and we knew this day was going to come. That's not what we're talking about. But that has a huge impact on it and and you understand that. I I do Kim, but
let's stay and the traffic patterns and the traffic patterns have changed tremendously over the past five years, five and a half years now. And then the bus then they did that.
No. And so to to and they're going to keep on changing because you know terms of issues with New Jersey issues with New Jersey transit there. There's no light rail,
so people have more cars now. Um there's uh we're not working in in home as often. There's a a lot more return to office and uh you know, the city council doesn't control that. We don't control
whether corporations return to office. We have to react to that. Excuse me. Please, please, please don't. I'm just trying to have a conversation. This shouldn't be This is not a time for conversation. speaking. Excuse me. I'm I'm speaking here. You made a statement, but I wanted clarity. No,
I wanted clarity. You're saying that this is going to keep changing. Please let me talk. Go ahead. Please let me talk. Obviously, you can't have a conversation. You got to get it all out. Go ahead. Please let me talk. Go ahead. Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you.
So, let's bring the the city engineer back. We have him on the schedule for August 5th. This is a city engineer problem and he's not going to have a magic switch that's going to change everything. We're going to have to work
on solutions. And a good city council tries a solution. If it doesn't work, you modify it and you try again. And we have a big problem from having a major highway come through our city. And it's going to take a lot of work to get it to
work. So, that's what I'm saying. And it's going to take many months until this is resolved. It's not a quick solution here, as we all know. Um, we can't get rid of cars on the street. They have the right to drive here. 40. Last time I counted, 40,000 people drive
through Anglewood on these streets. Not it's not Anglewood people here, but we're a through town and we have to adjust to that. Thank you. What what measures did the council take to correct this?
You said we try and then we try something else. What did we try? I might have missed that. I think if you know this is not productive. Yeah. And and what I said
is the way the way a council be to stop this. I'm just saying no to everything. We No, hold on. Hold on. He He's making statements that are not true. And then I don't want people walking away from this meeting where they can't unring the
bell, where because Ken said something, they believe it to be true. The council has not done anything. So, you can't make a statement that we try something different. And all I'm saying is August 5th is a long time for people that live
on that block around the corner that's suffering from this every day. That's that's all I'm saying. And that's not even my word concern. That's all I'm saying. And and just because he comes, it doesn't mean that things are going to change. I'm like, let's let's let's just
speed up the process where we can at least have some teeth to talk about something to to to push it back to August 5th is really unacceptable. Well, the the city engineer, I mean, I've I've you know, obviously this is in my ward and it heavily impacts, you
know, uh my friends, my neighbors, my family. it heavily impacts me and uh it's something it's it's really you know it's something I have spoken to the city engineer about and um and he um and I've
spoken to Mr. Hoffman about it obviously and the city engineer I understand that and my understanding um is that enforcement you know people aren't following uh uh the lanes like for the
lanes the way they should be. So, for example, the other day I was driving there. I'm in the the correct lane. Other cars are going into the left turn lane, and then they're all cutting in front of my car. So, it ended up taking
my car, you know, 20 minutes to get to 8095, which should have been 2 minutes. And that's because everybody was cutting in front. And that's because there was no enforcement. So, there are different issues that need to be done. You know, A is enforcement, B is signage. um you
know the the I think the signs Mr. Hoffman, you can you can and I think this is why the engineer has to speak because we the council members, we don't do the enforcement, right? We don't create the signs, but the signs are ordered and so more signage is supposed
to go up. So, these are measures that are being taken and um and the city engineer is the best person to address it to address the at least at least the measures he's taking, the measures that the police are taking via enforcement. they're the best people to to address
it. That's um I can't speak to the enforcement. I can't speak to the to the signage and um so let's get everybody on board. Let's have another uh discussion um going forward. It's on for August. If
our if our people can come earlier, Mr. Hoffman will put it on for next week and let them address the measures that they're taking and then and we'll we'll get we'll hear right from the sources. Mr. President, yes. All I I want is our listeners to be well
informed. I don't want them to wait till August 5th and I don't want to wait till August 5th to hear from France who's very intelligent and from the meantime that our residents or me are walking away as if France had something to do
with this and he has not been the one that's changed these lanes in the in the traffic pattern. He may have suggestions, but I don't want to have implications that he's the one that um that did it, that changed it, and
we're waiting for him for different solutions. He may come with solutions on August 5th or whenever he comes. Um but then we got to figure out how we get that done. Well, well, it shouldn't be able it shouldn't it shouldn't take that long.
Well, we asked Mr. Hoffman to see if our professionals were available to come to the next council meeting which is in two weeks and hopefully they'll come. But um but at the last meeting that I went to uh the engineer actually took
responsibility for doing the the traffic pattern. So I'm not sure. I mean you think DPW just went and who I don't know who did the stripes, Mr. Hoffman? Was it our DW? No, it was it was a it was a company that came in after, you know, after the
road was paved. So, they on their own and rights. Mr. Hoffman, who who who came up with the traffic pattern for the company to paint? Yeah. Okay. You know what? It's um it was on
it was on a it was on a plan that was approved by somebody, but I I don't have that in front of me right now. So, um, you know, the the roads the roads the roads get paved. There's a there's a
there's striping that's that that goes with it after after it's been paved. It's designed by somebody. It's signed off by somebody and then it's put then it's put down. But, you know, this is not a question that can be answered at 10:21 at night when when the when the plans um the plans are not available at
the moment. Okay. So, so let's see if um if Mr. um you know if if uh our engineer can come and maybe have the police come to talk about the enforcement and have the engineer come to talk about uh the
traffic pattern at the next meeting and they can you know discuss how this traffic I mean I mean he did discuss it at the last meeting. He gave us the answers but we can have him give it again. so everybody can hear it
again. Uh, but I I I don't think the company just just came and whoever this company was. I know it's late, Lisa, but I want to give acknowledgement to um Alvin George Willby. He was born in 1940 and he died
um several days ago. um celebration of life. His booing is on July 25th at First Baptist Church in Englewood. So um he had the first Jamaican restaurant, the first black Jamaican restaurant in Englewood. And I remember going there
years ago, sitting down with him. He's a ladies man, you know, like he's like, "Hey, come eat with me." So, I want you to know his burial grave site service is on Saturday, July 26 at 12 noon at George Washington Memorial at Paramis Road. And then after that, they're going
to have their celebration. The final celebration will be at Inglewood Field Club. Um, and they want the the men to wear white with a slash of red and the women to wear black with a slash of red. But um he was a kind guy who had the
only black businessman who was there on Palisate Avenue. So I think we should take a silence for him, you know, when whenever you're ready. But um you know, he passed away, but he was a kind man. He only not only served food, but he
also served um holistic um remedies for people for their bodies. You understand? I just want to make a comment. That's it. It's a comment. That's it. Okay. Thank you. All right. So, can I have a motion to
adjurnn, please? I make a motion. May I have a second? Come on, Ken. Second. I'll second. All in favor? Do we have three people? I I see three people. Okay. Yansancy, I
saw me, Dan, and Kevin raise their hands. Well, any oppos? No, we're we're fine. We have uh three people. Bill, do we need a roll call or we're good? I I saw three people raise their hands.
I you know, thank you. All right. Have a good night, everybody. Thank you. Good night. Good night. Good night, everyone.