follow the drip Follow the tried and gave up The product just wasn't working It wasn't holding I know Shut down yesterday in here in general Hey did you try again did you shut it off and try again well on it again
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That's right I forgot System was down Go ahead Call the meeting to order this morning Scammy County Compy Board on our May 7th meeting this morning Madam Secretary do we have a determination of quorum today i'm going to first read in the rules if you don't mind And then sorry uh please silence all cell phones If you wish
to speak please let the board secretary know in advance Otherwise raise your hand for the board chair to recognize your request When the chairman calls you to speak come to the podium adjust the microphone and then state your name and address for the record You are requested to keep your remarks brief and factual Both parties of an issue will be granted uniform maximum time to speak which usually runs between 3 to 5 minutes Uh this hearing is considered quasi judicial Conduct is formal and profane or derogatory comments will not be tolerated And yes sir Mr Chairman with
seven members present We do have a quorum And do we have proof of publication yes sir Mr Chairman It was published on May 1st 2025 in the Pensacola News Journal And do I have a motion for approval of minutes from the April 2nd meeting so we did not have the minutes back in time for the before the agenda was published Uh so we will bring those along with these minutes at the next meeting
to be continued Yes sir public forum We have a three minute rule of mic time on our public forum Is there anybody today listed to speak i did not receive any speaker request forms but I did see that somebody came in a little bit later You might want to just pull the audience to make sure Is anybody here for the public forum today would like to speak seeing none we will move forward And what about the secretary status report
i have nothing for you today Nothing for us today That's not so bad Okay Our contractor applications Uh good morning board members Our first applicant will be a continuation from the April 2nd hearing uh for Miss Kiana Williamson Miss Williamson if you will please come to the podium state your name and address for the record Miss Williamson is not here Uh she is not present Um included in her packet I included all the original documents from April 2nd along with any documentation she
provided uh to give proof to her claim that she was unaware of the civil suit which was filed uh prior to last meeting Um since that time she has been arrested I included a copy of that arrest report along with the clerk of court records uh charges were lararseny on a victim over the age of 65 and impersonation of a contractor Um and that'll be in the report for you to review as well This was a continuence from last month because she had mentioned that she was not
aware of this So we gave her opportunity So uh direction of the board of dismissal for this or I guess we could give a continuence but I think it's a motion to dismiss Second I have a motion and a second I think it would be to deny to deny Amendment Motion to deny Second Have a motion and second to deny the application All in favor raise your right hand
All oppose same sign Seeing none hear none unanimously is approved to deny Uh board members our next applicant is also a continuation from April 2nd Uh this is for Miss Ranata Chzwick Miss Chzwick if you'll please come to the podium state your name and address for the record please Good morning Hello everyone Ranata Fetchuk 5490 Cruz at Pensacola Um Miss Chedwick was also given the opportunity to provide additional documentation uh stating that
she was not aware of the um of her husband's company and what was occurring at that time Uh I have included all documentation which was provided to her uh including the dismissal of the fully incorporated case uh for the civil suit explanation email from the applicant along with a federal background check which was ordered by the applicant for herself Uh she did include copies of 1099s showing where she did work uh for her qualifier and then uh three recommendation letters
from Keller Williams realy builder CAD services and Greenpoint Insurance Brokers Um additional documents that I did find to speak to There was a civil suit filed on April 18th 2022 Um it does state and that this was filed by Allegro Homes that Miss Rnado was the manager of that company Uh so that would definitely be something to speak to Um finally April the 4th I did document an office interaction regarding a phone call I had with Mr Austin Shipton who had come into the office
uh inquiring that whether he should continue with Allegro Homes LC Um he also stated to me on the phone that social media accounts had been shut down and that that did seem prevalent at the time So I made sure to document that Uh typed it out in a letter had that notorized included for the board Um Miss Jennifer could you pull up the civil suit proof of ranada management of Algra Homes please and go down to number four
five I think Mr on Last time you were here you said you were unaware of anything that was going on with Algra Holmes because your husband was Yeah He was doing everything I just was on the paper because um uh that time I I I wasn't working with him I I didn't know what he was doing According to the lawsuit um in the highlighted area you can see on the screen there it says that you was the managing member and you was managing the company and that you are the
recorded record owner of the property there Yeah But my husband took care of everything like and I didn't know what he was planning I think my just my what I was doing wrong is to trust him too much I want to make sure the board saw that there was um is this within our perview to so Miss Schwedzuk has put in an application to obtain her license
here this is within the scope of what you would review to make your determination Um so again like with the other applicants today your your decision is to approve or deny the application Um it's at the discretion of the board and if I recall correctly during her testimony last time uh her husband they are they are still in a partnership I believe um and that he would have some role in her future endeavors Um so it's at the board's discretion as with any other
applicant Understood I wasn't here at the last meeting so I didn't get to hear the testimony So I want to yeah I'm going to rely on the board to uh provide some input on the direction where we go on this her u there was situations of of lawsuits against the company Allegrath who she was a part of and she was told us last month it was all her husband had done it she was unaware of it and I just want to make sure we we saw the point here that legally she was obligated obligated and uh her husband is still going to be involved in this new endeavor Um understood
And want to make sure everybody sees the whole Yeah picture here You understand where we're coming from right we have to determine based on what we see as evidence And even though you're saying that your husband was handling the business you weren't Uh we still have to make the decision based on the fact that your husband's going to be a part of that decision and there's some uh issues with your husband's operations of the business So even though you're saying that it's going to be under your name personally speaking and the board can speak on its own that I still
look at as an entity that's going to be operated by the same people I mean let's be serious about that So we have to look at that We have to look at what's in the best interest of the scam county citizens and we have to make sure decision is based on that and not personally on what it is that you you're bringing to the table Yeah But I can't be responsible all my life with my husband But I think that's going to have to be something that you take up personally between yourself and your husband and whatever legal actions there are to say that you know maybe there's fraud there Whatever it may be I have no idea I'm just kind of throwing things out there
Uh that wouldn't be on this board uh to make that decision for you And Mr Patel because you were not here at last month's meeting um and we don't have the transcripts just yet Um it and the other board members might be able to to add some uh Mr Schwedzuk actually applied first um and then this board received information and his um application he he didn't come back kind of thing M then Miss Ranatada Schwedzuk applied Um during that time the department
of business and professional regulation provided us with additional information in regard to some unlicensed contracting in another jurisdiction and and so that's still under review and investigation and all of that documentation was provided during these applications So that's some some information that came out at the last meeting Understood And I think tied in with this also was that part of the time listed make sure I've got this correct guys That part
of the time listed from Grand Builders of being employed here you guys were actually in was it New Jersey is that correct no no no So last year before we was we were living between New Jersey and Florida and Pensacola But last year eight years with here last year right last eight years
I I know there was some discrepancy on the time frame there if I remember correctly Again I don't correct Miss Mr the the experience verification form did list a time frame in which some of these actions were being taken also in New Jersey Um Nick has just informed me that there are some W9s um included Correct Correct Miss Chzwick did provide copies of 1099s uh for each year listed and those are also included in the attachments on this application Sir and I want
to ask you outright because I feel like there's a lot of speculation as to whether your husband um is going to be involved Is your husband going to be involved with your future business venture with you right now i don't think so No So we see from 2020 through 24 but I think the experience so it's just been the
last four years you've been here This says five years and one month but uh five years and one month was as of February 28th of 25 I don't know if a 2025 tax document has been issued just yet I bought the first house in 2015 I guess in Pensacola This going to be the board's discretion I think the thing that still stands out is the fact
that in 2022 this lawsuit with Mitchum Construction and Algra where Miss Ranatada was actually a the manager of the company there So any discussion on the board any anybody want to ask Mr Not any questions
Was some of the experience that's required to apply for the license with Allegro Homes no sir The experience was signed off on I feel I apologize Let me get to um my experience forum Grand builders LLC The license was established August 18th of 2016 Um the license holder is Mr Adrien Manki So it wasn't it's it's very complicated here What what what kind of role did you have in
that company what kind of role did you have in the company grand builders What What did you do with that company what what was your um job i mostly I was watching the subcontractors to make sure everything is done on time and according to the schedule But I was doing myself some some stuff like u installing interior doors painting trims um trims trim interior trim interior trim Some wood
floor and Can you speak more into the mic speak more into the mic Yes ma'am That way they can hear better Uh so tiles wood floors uh um painting and of course uh cleaning after all everything So during the time I guess to answer during the time that she was working for Grand Builders she also had a company named Allegra Homes Is that correct based on the lawsuit yes Back then it
was under my husband name only But but according to the law it was under your name According to the legal I should say Is that the right way to say it Miss Christie according to the legal it was under her name I'm looking at the paperwork No I I think it's it was under my because my husband was mostly in New Jersey I live with my kids here and we travel between New Jersey and Florida but eight
years ago uh I just came here Yeah that would be how it was registered with um Sun with Sunbiz is that that she was the manager the it appears the way that they cited this and I don't see um and it looks like this was filed in 2022 So that would have been a few years ago right and I'm I'm Is it ongoing so then technically whenever she was working with Grand Builders initially she was not with her husband's company then being the managing partner It wasn't until
four years later in 2022 Is that correct was in 2018 That's just when the lawsuit was filed was Okay And under Sunbiz does it state the year um of the company originating with her husband and when so all we would have would be Florida's access I believe Okay So let me I'm going to look up some business Okay Just to kind of create a timeline and see if we can find I don't know if we have anything Nick do you have anything from the New New Jersey
um in regard to the the formation of that organization no ma'am I do not We have documentation of the original civil suits out of New Jersey I asked my husband to change under his name and I he did I believe he did Leger Holmes was started in 2019 according to Sunbiz And I know I said at the last meeting too I don't want the sins of a husband to be placed
on the wife and if she's trying to do good and and make ends meet for her family Um I I have the my own business It's called Renoland It's under me Uh I from time to time I'm trying to buy some lot and what is my plan to to to to build the house under those slots and sell it or rent it something like that So what what Jennifer is flipping through right now Algra Homes has been
incorporated in other states other than Florida So she's flipping through those records that she has now and I'm going to look at what they just handed me to see what I can tell you from it So you can see on your screen this one is in um New Jersey The next one is in New York Um the Ocean County uh is in New Jersey So there's there's a few different states involved here I think it's
2021 it was registered in Mrs Ranada's name in Florida and then it was changed to Mr Albert's name in 2022 January according to the state records that's the second page So the bottom line is you were the managing it you were the uh manager of the company at the time of the lawsuit I know you say that your husband I but I didn't even
know about it Well you would have been served papers to have known about it You had to appear in court over it because you as the managing member Did were you not asked to be in court over this uh I never went to the court I don't I didn't even know about the situation I find out much better Well he kind of messed you up big time I mean that's
your husband I don't mean to be disparing here but um I mean your your name is listed continually through here Is it currently listed no it's he her husband changed it to his name in 2022 in Florida Okay But 2021 was in her name So there it appears according
to the records that you that been provided in Nassau County another lawsuit was filed in 2024 specifically listing her under Allegra Homes and that was um so she'll have to go back to handle It says the place of trial is going to be in Nassau County This was in April of 2024 Um were you aware of that one i I wasn't owner of the company in 2024 of the one in New Jersey It was probably same what happened many years ago It was same situation back
then It was under my name but not in 2024 Not in Florida We're talking about in New is it New Jersey is that what you're saying new Jersey This is This is one in New York New York Hold on It was I don't know I one one in New Jersey and one in New York a company Something like that I But nothing in Florida No I I'm sorry you're putting this position but it puts us in a position where
by your name being attached to these legally it's like Mr Patel said you know for the citizens of our county it's sometimes you trust your husband too much and then you got this No I and I Yeah I mean that's your marriage not and we're not here to Yeah I know to get into that by any means but from the standpoint of our governing of this licensings in the county we have to deal
with facts That's before it's not necessarily the situation of a relationship You know if if he took advantage of you and your name that's between the two of you But us here we have to look at Yeah But you ask me about the situation between Right Right Because there's ongoing stuff right now in New York with your name on it I don't know if you're aware of that but they just pulled it up There's a lawsuit in Nassau County New York with your name Yeah but again I didn't know about it
I I wasn't involved You don't know anything about it i I wasn't involved So I think one of the Yes ma'am Go ahead You You'll probably answer what I was going to ask I was looking through the paperwork um on the New York case and she's repeatedly listed and at the time they were already living in Florida when this was filed Um it at least Albert was and I'm sorry Chedzwick I say Feduk Okay Um was living in Florida when this was filed in 2024 Um this information I don't know
and you may want to look to see if it was provided as part of the application It was done Okay So I would then look at the DPR DBPR record Um they would have noticed them So she would have she should have known about this at some point should have been made aware of it by DBPR Yeah DBPR Yeah but I can't I don't have that in front of me I don't know if you do The packet I I do not have any record from DBPR No ma'am Okay So we just have what they provided us but I don't know that they and this was the research done was was limited Um but looking and searching for her name online this
is what we were able to find based out of these counties So with the limited resources we have this is we were able to find these suits Mr Paul you you started the questions here We get back to you Well and and all all that we're discussing is important Um my bent was um her experience um contracting and you know it minus all that we're discussing today Um we need to consider what the experience is And so that's you know if if we have you know time to discuss that I think it it'd be
relevant Can you can you describe what sort of construction experience you have active construction experience and or any experience with the Florida Building Code How I say I was like making sure they they the subcontractors was doing fine They they they was doing good job good quality job Also I'm building right now my own house as a home owner
So I think I know what to do but I still of course I going to I I still have to study a lot If I want to pass the test I know I have to study a lot still So what they would want to know I I think what I recall from the history um that you were you did a lot of you yourself did painting and tiling work Yeah Was there anything else that you did in the area of construction i a
little bit of siding I didn't go to the roof because I have the I'm scared of the height I don't know if you had an opportunity to look at her application I don't know if any um I apologize Last week when I went to look at this the county system wasn't working so I couldn't see it Um and and you get a very small window that I devote just you Thanks You're welcome And it was caught with it So um but I do remember talk listening in the past Of course I do meet with Jennifer on these
things and the things that you would want to look at when you're considering these based on the the conversations One I think the experience is very important What experience she's had in contracting um what training any schooling anything that she you know you certainly want to look experience and then and then um I I understand your line of questioning is because of to make sure that we're not putting somebody in a position to affect our citizens in a negative way um we certainly have seen that and it's it's within your purview to um avoid that when
possible So you may want to go back and look at the application see what was included what was not included what's the possibility based on the documents that have been provided that she was made aware of this Um unfortunately we don't we don't have service documents so we can't tell you she was served but she was listed in all these cases and you can see that in the paperwork I don't I think that um I believe I recall that she's still living you and your husband are still living in the same house Same house Okay So if any service were provided it would have been at that same it would have been in that location or whatever address they had listed according to
their businesses in New Jersey in New York I can tell you in state of Florida it's the contractor's responsibility to update your addresses not not the state of New York or the people that are the plaintist to to track you down So um with a DBR investigation pending I think that you may want to consider where DPPR is on this We just don't know at this point Yeah To Mr Paul's uh statement here obviously the actual knowledge field knowledge is very important along with the business knowledge
And I think that's what flagged us more was the business part because it's a good balance You have to know what you're doing but then you have to know how to take care of what you're doing So and there's an active DBPR investigation going now Is that correct so that is correct sir Um we received um information in regard to Michik's husband and and at that time I guess they were
listed as partners or whatever Um and so there is an active investigation into some unlicensed construction going on in another jurisdiction and that's how it was DBPR contacted us because they had heard that um they were coming through us to become licensed and she at that time the investigator questioned if that was accurate and I said yes it is and they said do you have this additional information and I said "No we do not." And they provided the information and was based
on their investigation into a case they have So doubling back one more time Mr Paul So the experience of it did you did she tell you what you wanted to need to hear on that part well absent of getting into the Florida building code and asking questions you know I I think I've got a feel Okay Any other input from the board here before we kind of head to a I want to throw out the idea of let's see what this DBPR thing does
um because they have a serious investigation going on from what I understand So I think and I you know we want to be very respectful to you Mr not a uh at the same time you know this delicate balance of our citizens and and people coming into business We we love seeing builders We you know we just don't have enough homes already So that's all But we have to be careful and with the ongoing
uh cases and with the ones that's here listed in Florida and in New York and uh it it just uh there's a pause button I feel just I need some input but I just kind of feel that little pause button to say let's let's thing kind of play out to see because from what I'm understanding from the DBPR another jurisdiction in Florida There is a situation going on right now but it's in Florida It's not Algra Homes It's not the
New York thing There's no one in Florida So this pattern is repeating itself So um you got listed on the application Grand Builders Who is that who was working for okay It's a company you're working for right now Anton and Adrian So you're working with Anton now not 2018 right 2020 and 20 It says through two 28
of 2025 through February 28th of 2025 You were still working with them until February No Yes but not now I'm not working But you're not working with it now I got you So I'll entertain a motion from somebody to pull this together if you want to Miss Christie let me ask you this Would it be uh is it just we deny and let her come back
afterwards or do we put it on hold until is there even a ground or or is there a position for that well when it comes to this area you are pretty you you have very broad powers Um if you want something that's just an easy one it would be deny until that is resolved with DBPR that would probably be the easiest or or there's or these additional cases are resolved if new information is found Those are all things she can still provide additional information um and she can
bring it back before you But you know you could certainly deny with the opportunity to reapply right it's not saying no permanently It's just saying given these current circumstances you know make a motion to deny based on the circumstances that's surrounding the applicant at this time And you would leave the opportunity I leave the opportunity open to come back another time I second I have a motion and a second Any discussion
i'm curious if we deny or continue Is there some sort of asterisk or red mark then placed on her record for having been denied we would not do that as staff Okay I I think um I think if if you were to continue on with this motion and then she were to come back with a new application that was you know included additional items um there would be no red mark We don't we don't maintain things like that And again for for information purposes you know like we discussed DBPR uh the
other cases uh if you come back and say look all these are resolved or solved I think that would give us more of a uh opportunity to accept your application So it's not saying you at this time we are based on all the circumstances areound surrounding you as an applicant Uh but you're more than welcome to bring it back Uh I think the biggest one is the DVPR which you've heard is if they're doing an investigation I mean and again once we provide you with the with the approval you still got to go through DBPR and if they got uh you know if they got uh something outstanding
against you I'm not sure whether they would or the whether they wouldn't provide you a business license to do business with the uh you know the opportunity we give you today Okay Uh so I think maybe if you clear that up and then come back and you know we provide you a and grant you permission to go ahead and uh get you the license and then it'd be easier for you to go back to DBPR So before we vote I tell you we're we're not slamming the door on you okay i don't want you
to feel that when we we leave here That's not I don't think anybody up here feels that I think it's more of we just having to be precautionary and we're rooting for you to get through this Okay All right Thank you So I'll have a vote or any other discussion first No other discussion All in favor may before you vote may I ask a question have you reviewed the history to see if there's even enough experience for the purposes of sitting for the license based on Mr Sims question
i mean that may be before she comes back in with all that resolved she that may be another um hurdle that she needs to get through or get over I don't want to give her address mentioned the Florida building code items If she's supervising the trades according to the application supervising all trades when construction new built houses hands-on project manager trades person working on various projects and operating on-site machinery and safety procedures
not knowing her scope of work I mean if it's supervisory position then clearly you know you would have the experience but if she's actually doing the actual trade uh then there may be some concern the application list she's listing just supervisory of all trades right this is crew leader and superintendent so just just to draw you to the requirement it requires four years of experience one of those years being handson in the trade that they are applying
for so that's one year of hands-on performing construction projects for she's applying for building contractor building contractor So that includes actual hands-on construction experience in commercial projects less than three stories as well as uh residential projects So she would have to speak to hands-on experience in that arena Now I know there's an experience verification form and since we had some board members present I mean not present at the last meeting the same
contractor that signed off on this form also signed off on her husband's form as well So maybe we need to get this contractor here and ask him if he's physically I mean just the requirement is four years of experience with one year of of hands-on experience Correct Some flags here So the question or the thing would also be just make sure you pay good attention to the experience level and in the meantime uh make sure you have that Okay Gotcha Okay
All right Let's look for a vote Any other questions real quick make sure I don't shut you out All in favor raise your right hand All oppose Same sign Seeing none hear none Is denied for today until the DVPR gets their uh investigation completed in these other cases And then you're welcome to come back Okay Thank you Thank you Thank you I got a question maybe for legal or Jennifer So you know there's times that we have builders that
will write a verification form for people that are applying for the license Are we allowed to call upon them and ask him we actually do We do verify that with them and it's a simple you know yes they did work for us Nick can speak to that because he actually does the verification and it would be a phone call to verify Um maybe even a form for them to fill out outside of that the countyy's asking for I mean I don't know if we're able to do that or not Outside of our experience verification form at this time we don't have an additional form No sir Okay Can I ask a second question with
that miss legal Hold on So what you have before you is the one that's supposed to be that's the verification by the employer by the contract Yes sir Yes sir Mr Uh chairman if a board member sees a name there that they recognize is it for us to call also to follow up do we have that or is that out of something we should not be doing i wouldn't recommend it I would recommend reaching out to to Jennifer or especially to Nick and letting them handle that Okay They can reach out and go you
know if if it it and that's no big deal You can always talk to staff and say "Hey I need you to look into this." Even if we're not in a board meeting you can ask them to look for something and bring that information back before the board as long as you don't discuss it with other board members Um but getting information ahead of time may be put in putting you in a situation to have to fill out a form and that could be that could remove you from voting Okay thank you We will move forward Good thing you ate a good breakfast All righty Good morning board Um the next applicant
appearing before you today is Mr Clayton Curry Mr Curry if you will please come to the podium state your name and address for the record Good morning everybody Uh my name is Clayton Curry Uh address is 5180 Willow Run Drive Pensacola Mr Curry here is applying for the application to take the examination for sign erector non-elect electrical and he is appearing before you today with four years 5 months and 14 days of experience He's worked as installation manager at Pro Image Signs LLC under the supervision of Steve Duncan who holds the license number
ES120001371 and he's held this license since 2015 While working at Promage Signs Mr Curry is his responsibilities included but not limited to scheduling projects updating clients with progress ensuring loading and transportation of signs to the location and performed safely While um filling out the application Mr Curry did select one of the questions under financial responsibilities requiring explanation of judgment and closure of if convicted of a crime which was
provided by the applicant and staff is deferring to the board for denial of approval of application Tell us about yourself Uh born in uh Denver Colorado Been here most of my life though um been in the kind of construction industry for most of my adult life Um either working for my father or you know the past 15 years working for Aluma Designs Um we do interior um displays picture framing modern modern picture framing stuff like that Um business you know we do rebranding for a
lot of clients around town and stuff and um it's kind of gotten to the point where we get into these bigger projects and you know they're want the electrical stuff you know the the building signage the site signage and stuff We're not able to do that So formed a relationship with Pro Image Signs Um and I've been working with them like you said for the past four four and a half years Um and just trying to take you know that that that business to the next level to where we're able to provide you know full full service Um so yeah pretty much So it would still be non-elect electrical You'd still hire electricians for that absolutely Gotcha Absolutely Gotcha
Thank you for your honesty on the uh application here And guess if you grew up in Denver it would explain the just that was that was a long time ago Just trying to make it just a It would have been a non Well I want to say beautiful reading first and foremost Second I passed by uh your office your beautiful building It is nice Yes every day I live not so far away Um and to
segue into I'd like to make a motion to approve Second Do you have any discussion i have a motion and a second to approve Mr Clayton for signing record All in favor raise right hand All oppose Same sign Seeing none Hear none Thank you sir Good luck with everything Thank you Yes sir All right All righty Um the next applicant appearing before you today is Mr Benjamin Gambino Lighten
Mr Gambino Lighten please come to the podium State your name and address for the record please Hello my name is Benjamin Gambino Lighten uh 216 Pro Lane Canto Florida All right Mr Gambino lighting is requesting reinstatement of expired delinquent license RP252555447 for pool contractor after 8 years of it being expired He has maintained an
active license with uh completing the required continuing education Um it is the competency card that has gone into delinquency with this expiration Um and staff is again uh deferring to the board for denial of or approval of the application to reinstate this competency card So based on your email you you still have your state license Yes sir And what does that
not cover i just for clarification of uh why you would want these reinstated Um basically it just covers me to be able to repair pool pumps and filters Um because I just do minor pool cleaning and minor repairs on pools right i don't do any construction at all on pools Um at the time of getting my approval the first time with you guys from the board eight years ago I was under the assumption that this was like a a part of the process to get my state licensing
and that once I had that that I would keep up with that and I wouldn't have to come back here I didn't I guess I misunderstood that Um but I have kept up with the state licensing every two years My testing has been done I've been fully insured the whole time I basically just missed the part where I had to come in here and renew every year with you guys But everything else has been kept up to date So I have a question for you Go ahead If if I if I may Are you talking about your state registration or your state certified license um my my RP Oh so it's your registration
So it's not actually a state license that he obtained He he registered his license with the state I got you And he's been maintaining that Did not Thank you I I was a little confused myself I was thinking if you got state license you wouldn't need them from us But but I understand So you're licensed with the states for register the DBPR Yes sir I got you I follow you Well man you need these pretty bad then Yeah I was I just came here to do an address change because I moved I had no idea this was even going on and I'm very sorry for being so delinquent Um but yeah I just
would like to get everything back on track and be legal again like be Good move Good move Any discussion up here do I have a motion motion to approve Second Have a motion and second Any other discussions on the motion if not all in favor raise your right hand All oppose same sign See none None Motion is approved Thank you for making these things right Well thank you very much All righty Our next applicant appearing before you today is Mr Christopher Taylor Mr
Taylor please come to the podium State your name and address for the record Christopher Taylor 871 Jack Branch Road Cantonment All right Mr Taylor is applying for the application to take the doors windows and siding examination and appears before you today with 5 years 3 months and 29 days of experience Mr Taylor worked as what general manager at RS Bose LLC doing business as Precision Door Services under the supervision of Robert Bows who holds an active license number
DWS0095 Mr BS has held this license since 2019 and Mr Taylor's responsibility includes but are not limited to repairing and installing garage doors training new technicians along the way as well and uh for verification of experience Mr Taylor is using W2s due to the relationship with license holder Robert Bose While filling out the application Mr Taylor selected yes on one of the questions under the financial responsibilities requiring an
explanation of judgment and closure of the conviction of a crime uh which was provided by the applicant and staff is uh deferring to the board for denial or approval of the application Do you have any questions for the applicant do I have a motion
motion to approve Second Have a motion and second Any discussion on the motion all in favor was there discussion i said sorry for yelling I was like got to be assertive sometimes All in favor raise your right hand All oppose same sign Seeing none hear none Mr Tell you've been approved Awesome Thank you Thank you ma'am Yes sir She was on the roll
If you wanted to moonlight as anything a DJ would be your way to go He's a plant I need you to come visit my office with Christie And a cigar afficionado
Okay let's get back on record here I I think county legal was having an um some communications with staff and some direction on some items that we need to bring to y'all at a later date Um so our next item is uh Robert Can I pause you just a second and thank you guys for doing the deep dive in these investigations It does make our job better to have the proper information and so the deeper y'all go the the better it is for us Just want to Is that right guys thank you all We
definitely appreciate that and we understand the same responsibility to serve citizens Yes Yeah I know Miss Jennifer's a she's a tough taskmaster So y'all got it you know They better stay on track I run a tight ship Okay that's what I'm saying She does her job well Well I appreciate it And we thank you for doing your job well Miss Jennifer Yeah that's another thing Let's just Can we just pause and thank Miss Jennifer because she keeps us all in Huh she keeps
us in line all the time If I've told her once I've told her a million times I am trying to clone her I'm looking into the technology to do that So she was a good hire Mr Tim You done a good job Oh I'm sorry I set her up didn't I approved All in favor yeah Right Why thank you for putting me on the spot Um can we move on now yes please Yes please Um our next item is Robert A
Gach III doing business as RS Services LLC Uh doing business as Honeybee Plumbing So he's uh this is a subgroup from an umbrella company State registered license number RF11067738 Contractor competency board complaints number 25503 29 COOM It's in regard to Matthew Spra the homeowner complainant at 2028 Hamilton Crossing Drive
uh Kanto Florida 32533 Proper notice was sent to the respondent Uh it's in the backup as investigators exhibits A and B the notice and then the uh certified return receipt Um Mr Sketch are you present today just put it into the record that Mr Sketch is not present Mr Sprag are you present today i am
Thank you And are you going to be providing testimony for this hearing at this time I'm going to request that uh Mr Sprag as well as our investigator Miss Reber be sworn Swear from the testimony about the truth the whole truth the truth and help I swear And Miss Reber will remain sworn for the duration of all of the hearings Um so Miss Reverber was a complaint filed with this board in regard to this case yes it was on May 30th 2025 excuse me March 30th 2025
And was it assigned case number 2550329 COOM that's correct And who was the subject of this case robert A Ski check Ski check Yes Uh he's doing businesses RNS Services Group LLC Also uh Honeybee Plumbing And uh who filed the complaint matthew D Sprag And the license number for Mr Ski check RF11 067738
and just as a note Mr Skichek is a state registered master plumber with gas Um you performed an investigation as a result of the case Yes I did And is the complaint the actual complaint form uploaded to the agenda yes it is Were did it did your investigation result into any alleged violations could you please state those your justification and any supporting documentation uh yes Code section
1837D9G contracting with an inactive license The first violation would be $250 to $500 My justification was the respondent's license has been inactive with Escambia County since August 28th 2024 and when he contracted for this project Supporting documents is investigators exhibit D license card for the respondent Robert A Ski
Jack Code section 1837D15C proceeding on any job without obtaining applicable local building department permits and/or inspections Job finished without a permit having been pulled resulting in misinspection That first violation is $500 to 1,500 A review of the permitting history for the location at the time of the complaint roted resulted in the respondent having
not obtained the required permit The supporting document is exhibit C confirmation of plumbing appointment All right And were there any other additional documentation provided for this um case uh yes there was and they're all attached to the agenda At this time staff would request that the attachments to the agenda be moved into backup Do I have a motion so moved Second Second
All in favor raise your right hand All oppose same sign Seeing none here none Motion has been approved And Miss Rever can you take us through a brief synopsis of the events in this case uh yes I can um complaintant entered into agreement based on an estimate from the respondent dated January 20th 25 Uh this was to install an electric water heater The total amount of the estimate was $1,89.15 Uh the complaintant ordered the water heater So this would have been a product provided
by the complaintant um complaintant did notify the respondent that the item was delivered on January 27th and the respondent scheduled an appointment for January 28th Uh after that installation the respondent presented the complaintant with a final invoice which the complaintant paid in full Shortly after the installation the complaintant stated that he reached out to the respondent to
inquire when the inspection would be done The complaintant stated he was concerned that the expansion tank was not compliant with code due to the respondent having installed the expansion tank on the hot side of the water heater instead of the cold In early February complaintant contacted building services to require if the respondent had obtained a permit for the installation of the water heater and was advised there was no permit applied for The
respondent was then contacted by the investigator to inquire why there was no permit obtained prior to the January 28th installation of the water heater At that time the investigator informed the respondent that his license was currently inactive with Escambia County The complaintant advised that the respondent came out and switched the expansion tank to the cold side of the water heater In February uh excuse me February 5th the respondent came in and met with the licensing
division Um at that time there was additional documents required to bring his license to an active status There was additional issues um resulting with the respondent changing his business name and not having the correct business name The complaintant stated that he continued to follow up with the respondent on the status of the permit and inspection well into March of 25
The respondent stated that he would file a complaint with building services if the permit was not resolved in the next two days I believe that's a typo there The complainant actually stated that he would file a complaint I apologize Y on March 24th the respondent advised the complaintant that he would make arrangements with another plumbing company to obtain the permit and schedule the inspection The respondent further explained to the complaintant that all the liability and communication would continue to be the sole responsibility of Honeybee Plumbing
On March 26 2025 Reliable Plumbing Plus LLC obtained a permit and a passed final inspection On March 27th on the same day the respondant notified the complaintant that Honeybee Plumbing would no longer be providing any services and that all warranties were null and void effective immediately During my investigation I reviewed the permitting history of the respondent for Escambia County and the city of Pensacola The respondent obtained 21 permits between
2018 and 2023 in Escambia County and 10 permits between 2021 in 2023 with the city of Pensacola The respondent was notified of the filing of the complaint However he did not provide a written response And Miss Reer of the permits that you reviewed did he have a consistent um status of permit issued or were the permits primarily closed um he
has a few permits I believe with the city Those um that's attached to the agenda Um you didn't see anything where they were all still out of open status um no I did not He had a few contract terminations I I think my concern is that he's had an inactive license and um he's not pulled any permits in I believe 2024 or 2025 with Escambia County or the city
of Pensacola So I'm not sure the status of how he's operating So that would conclude staff's presentation of this case Um Mr Spray if you would like to come to the podium state your name and address for the record and any additional details you would like to provide Uh Matthew Sprag 2028 Hamilton Crossing Drive Cantonment I really don't have anything else
left to say just that we I've gone over this with Mber many times We've made sure that the information that she presented to you is correct Um my portion of it is my water heater is now inspected you know and permitted So I'm giving this to you for this contractor
He should not be allowed to do these things because I had planned this water heater replacement It was not an emergency I was unfamiliar with the permitting application process but he his estimate said permit included He began work without even applying for a permit
He began work without being currently licensed in Escambia County When he finished the job I said "What about the permit?" And his wife slashpartner said "Oh we don't need a permit because we didn't go into the building's plumbing." and my red flags went up because due to a garage door work previously I had found out that a water heater needs a permit
And I called the next day to the permitting office and I asked specific questions Water heater needs a permit He said yes I said gas or electric he said yes I said "Is there any circumstance where a permit is not required for a water heater?" And the gentleman said "No." So this was when the attitudes changed His attitude changed when I mentioned
the U expansion tank and instead of being cooperative he became obstinate He tried bullying me That doesn't work He tried intimidating me No that doesn't work And the final straw was when he said "All warranties are null and void You you can't void a warranty from Re." So I filed a complaint After all I did promise him that I would file a
complaint and a promise is a promise Well first of all thank you for your service Yes thank you for that Beautifully well-written concise statement I loved reading every bit of it I don't like that this happened I appreciate you coming here and making said complaint but very well written Thank you Thank you chair If I may just add some information um when I was preparing my report to understand the expansion tank because there was some text messages
um from the respondent to the complaintant that he gave him basically a freebie that really he owed him more money for the expansion tank Um when speaking with Chief Jeff Kelly and him seeing the type of tank it was he said this expansion tank wasn't even a necessary item that it should have had some sort of valve or something in there to take the place of the new in Yeah correct And the
fact it was originally installed on the opposite side you know just some concerns there Thank you When I first when I initially contacted Miss Reubber and asked her to give him a nudge as far as the application she reached out to him and he thought that I had filed a complaint and his he I immediately received a hostile text message and he said "Well we now want I'm going
to charge you $399 for that expansion tank And I said "No because that expansion tank you said was free It was on the original invoice and I paid the original invoice in full." So that was part of the intimidation Part of the intimidation tactics that he used was that he sent me a huge text message a series of them with all of his terms and conditions Well I figured that
since he was operating illegally or unlicensed none of his terms and conditions would apply So um it Mr has been wonderful throughout this whole thing We've also had a lot of laughter because of the situation He's very pleasant Yeah So um again yeah he needs to be um taught a lesson as far as I'm concerned
Thank you And board all of the text messages that have been referenced by Mr Sprag as well as Mr Reber they are part of the agenda back soon Well Mr Spring sorry this happened to you You know this um I mean it says very clearly in the contract that permit would be included So and then obviously he did not have the ability to pull a permit with expired license So do we have a motion on this as far as moving it to uh disciplinary hearing
or any questions anybody else have for Mr Sprig i'll entertain a motion I motion to move forward to disciplinary hearing And just to confirm you're moving forward to disciplinary with the um alleged violations Yes I move forward to um go to disciplinary hearing for violations code section 18-37D9G as well as code section 1837D15C
I second Thank you Have a motion to second Any other discussion up here all in favor raise your right hand All oppose same sign See none hear none motion is approved and it will be moved to this hearing and you will have opportunity to come back at that time this spring if you choose to We look forward to seeing you Thank you Thank you for your time
Uh our next item is a disciplinary hearing Um it is Mark P Nunez doing business as Creekwood Builders LLC State registered license number RR282812147 Contractor competency board complaint number 24434 COOM It's in regard to Charles Day the homeowner complainant at 122 East Gadston Street Pensacola Florida 32501
Um as you can recall this was a previous case that came before this board We issued a final order and the complainant in that case has updated us to let us know that he has received nothing in regard to restitution from the um respondent Mr Nunees Uh so this hearing today is for non-compliance with a final order made by this board And the restitution amount was $32,7969 Is that correct that is correct I'm bringing the final
order up onto your screen now Um and the restitution was as you said uh there has also been no payment made toward his fines as well And so within the final order it it states that should the respondent fail to make those payments he shall be ma brought before the board for further disciplinary action So I would need a motion today to ask him to come back to us for further disciplinary action or
um that is what this hearing was for proper notice was sent to the respondent about this hearing um as as evidenced in your backup there Um so this hearing is to make a determination on that further disciplinary action Okay So let me scan down Our options today would be for um let me scroll down Yeah What what's our options for discipline i'm bringing it up
now So within your authority um you can suspend or or revoke the authority to obtain a permit uh limited on permitting license revocation for a period not less than one year no nor more than five years with egregious circumstances warrant warranting permanent revocation Suspension for a period not exceeding one year Imposition of additional fines Imposition of costs related
to the case Probation Reprimand or censure Uh you already did restitution to the homeowner um continuing education So you can do any combination of those items but those are your disciplinary actions uh available to you And Miss Christie I'd like to ask uh your input in this part Um is it okay for us to ask about previous cases or previous anything i know we have to make the determination on this one based on this but is there okay to ask about is you know
repetition type thing or any cases before this Right So what we you have before you is a failure to make any a failure to pay anything So um you would make a determination as to whether or not that exists based on the facts before you and then have a discussion on what the penalty should be So it'd be two steps So in based on the penalty though are we able to do a look back to see his history i want to make sure of that Okay Right For purposes for of penalty but not for purposes
of determining whether or not he's guilty of failing to make these payments Right Right So it's pretty obvious he failed to make his payment I think we solved the first one That was easy Second one would be the level of disciplinary for this And that's where I was asking do we have any other pending cases or any other past cases Miss Reaper so in this situation I would do a motion and a second and a vote to determine whether or not he's guilty of the first before you move on to
the second So do I have a motion to say that he is failed to make his payments per our order issued so you're looking for a motion for a finding of guilt for failure to make the payments as ordered Motion for guilty for not paying the payments As ordered As ordered Second I have a motion and a second Any discussion all in favor raise right hand All oppose Same sign See
none Hearing none Motion is approved Now we'll move to disciplinary Yes sir Okay And Miss Rever do we have We had a previous case a couple of years ago that was dismissed Um I have had someone file a complaint However they have not provided me some needed documents Um specifically proof of payment Um okay then and that's it Okay Can I get a clarification on the record do you do you
are you currently in another investigation is that what you're saying yes that's correct Okay That's another one in the city as well Okay So we have at our ability to limit to attain permit or permits with specific conditions We can deny suspend or revoke his license and we
can impose additional cost Could you clarify all this with me Miss Jennifer so I make So our board wants to be able to make a good decision here Correct So if you could ask what you need clarity on what is our basic options here for we can suspend revoke right so historically on the final order you already
finded him right uh you just made a determination that he did not pay those fines right uh so that I guess would be taken off the table here right uh you've already ordered restitution again same same scenario um your other options are probation suspension revocation or um something along the lines of what he can do in regard to permitting You let me clarify based on county code that revocation can be the revocation that exists that's one year to five years right or if the if
the board by unanimous vote finds that the case or conduct constitutes egregious circumstances um and you're convinced the safety of the public demands permanent revocation then you can permanently revoke But you've got to make sure that you're meeting that burden of egregious circumstances So we can do a probation Make sure I'm on the right track We can do a suspension with a time frame set up to one year Up to one year and then a revoke of one to five years unless it's
egreg egregious and then we can go into permanent Okay everybody understand the basic options we have here in a situation where you have that revocation the the one to fiveyear revocation um he would have to um to get reinstated he'd had to take the exam again and meet all the requirements of a person seeking certificate of competency for the first time So if you go that way with the one to five years they're he's going to be back before you to see if he can even get a license
That's fairly stiff penalty and it may be merited It's just Okay What's the board's discretion any discussion i make a motion to revoke his license for two years and uh recommend to the CIB the same Okay I have a motion on the floor for revoking for two years
and then submit it to the CIOB for the same action Do I have a second i second All right I have a motion to second Now discussion So I want to draw your attention to the screen Um your final order already included revocation of his registration So we've already sent that off to the CIB Yeah Mhm So we have already revoked his license Um we requested that the registration be revoked Yes We recommended it to the CIB You have not revoked it
right correct We're doing it now but we're doing it now This would be us doing it this time This motion is to revoke it Um as far as reinstatement when it comes before the board you may want to include um a requirement that all prior fines and penalties or restitution be made before he reapplies Right You can do that now or you can do that when he comes to reapply We just wait on it Yeah he may not come back Any other discussion is this a situation where we should say that uh he
should sit for the exam again that's automatic Or is it automatic okay good That's just part of the procedure Yeah true Okay good We don't have to stipulate Okay So we have a motion on the floor for revoking of two years and it's already been turned to the CIB but we can let them know of our action and a second to that All right All in favor raise your right hand All oppose same sign Seeing none here none Motion is approved for vocation for two years and that the CIOB be um informed
All right Our next item is a restitutionon uh hearing for Wade L Hunter III doing business as Lee Hunter Construction LLC Registered license number RR282812171 Contractor competency board complaint number 240863 COOM It's in regard to Julie Ricks the homeowner complainant at 215 Berry Road Pensacola Florida 32507 The board has seen
this item quite a bit proper notice was sent to the respondent Uh and we've also tried to make communications with the complainant This board at a previous hearing requested a continuence um to encourage the complainant to provide additional documentation in regard to restitution We've exhausted every effort of trying to get any additional documentation And so at this time staff would just request a possible dismissal of the restitution portion so that we can get
this final order out and get this complaint this case closed We really didn't have enough backing for the restitution If I remember correctly um documentation when she was before the board the board actually requested it directly from her Um and we we told her timelines of when to get that in and then we've brought it back you know after we received nothing We gave her additional time Um we've received nothing to date and I believe u Miss Reber has had no communications from her as
well responses That is correct Voicemails Um her mail is actually being returned Motion to dismiss restitution Do I have a second second Have a motion and a second to dismiss the restitution order All in favor raise your right hand All oppose same sign Seeing none hear none Motion is approved Okay Is there no other items on the agenda
no other items on the agenda No moths No moths No moths No more sir Meeting is adjourned Thank you guys Thank you everybody