where's the man he'll be here any minute i didn't see any flash that's right all right good morning everybody uh this meeting of the Escambia County Planning Board for June 3rd 2025 is hereby called to order with seven members present we
do have a quorum just a reminder please turn off your electronic devices or put them on silent if you would please stand with me for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation with liberty and justice for all all right thank you uh do we have proof of publication yes sir did the publication meet all legal requirements yes sir i'll
entertain a motion to wave the reading of the legal advertisement move second got a motion in a second all those in favor please signify by raising your right hand all those opposed motion carries the reasonzoning meeting minutes from the previous meeting dated May 6th has been provided to the board members are there any additions deletions or corrections if not I'll entertain a motion so moved okay got a motion and a second all those in favor please signify by raising your right hand all those opposed motion carries the
resoning hearing package for June 3rd 2025 with findings of fact has been provided to the board members i'll entertain a motion to accept the resoning hearing package with findings of fact and legal advertisement into evidence do I have a motion so move a second second all those in favor please signify by raising your right hand all those opposed motion carries uh will the court reporter please swear in members of the staff to raise your right hand
all right and uh we have previously the board has uh qualified staff as expert testimony in the area of land use and planning do any board members have questions regarding their qualifications and ability to offer expert testimony today all right at this hearing the planning board is acting under its authority to hear and make recommendations to the planning board I mean to the board of county commissioners the BCC on resoning applications these hearings are quasi judicial in nature these hearings are like evidentiary hearings in a court of law however less formal
all testimony will be given under oath and anyone testifying before the planning board may be subject to cross-examination all documents and exhibits that the planning board considers will be entered into evidence and made part of the record opinion testimony will be limited to experts and closing arguments will be limited to evidence in the record before making a decision the planning board will consider the relevant testimony the exhibits entered into evidence and the law each individual who wishes to address the planning board must complete a speaker request form and
submit it to the planning board clerk these forms are found on the back of the table or the back of the room on the table there uh you will not be allowed to speak until we receive a completed form and please note that only those individuals who are present and give testimony on their record at this hearing before the planning board will be able to speak at the subsequent hearing before the board of county commissioners no new evidence can be presented at the board of county commissioners meeting therefore all testimony and evidence uh must be entered today the planning board will
provide a recommendation for each resoning request to the BCC which will review testimony documents and exhibits consider the closing arguments and make a final decision all decisions by the BCC are final anyone who wishes to seek judicial review of the decision of the BCC must do so in a court of competent jurisdiction within 30 days of the date the BCC approves or rejects the recommended order of the planning board all written or oral communications outside of this hearing with
members of the planning board regarding matters under consideration today are considered exparte communications exparte communications are presumed prejuditial under for Florida law and must be disclosed as provided in BCC resolution 96-13 as each case is heard I'll ask if any board member um has been involved in expporte communication and to please identify themselves and describe the communication as required by section 2-7.2 of the Escambia County Land Development Code
the planning board's recommendation to the BCC shall include consideration of the following approval conditions the applicant has the burden of presenting competent substantial evidence to the reviewing board establishing that the requested zoning district would contribute to a result in a logical and orderly development pattern the appropriate surrounding area within which uses and conditions must be considered may vary with those uses and conditions and is not necessarily the same area required for a male notification a logical and orderly pattern shall
require demonstration of each of the following conditions a consistent with the comprehensive plan the proposed zoning is consistent with the future land use flu category as prescribed in LDC chapter 3 and with all other goals objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan if the resoning is required to properly enact a proposed flu amendment transmitted for state agency review the proposed zoning is consistent with the proposed flu and conditional to its adoption b
consistent with zoning district provisions the proposed zoning is consistent with the purpose and intent and with any other zoning establishment provisions prescribed by the proposed district in chapter 3 c compatible with surroundings all the permitted uses of the proposed zoning not just those anticipated by the resoning applicant are compatible as defined in chapter six with the surrounding uses the uses of any surrounding undeveloped land shall be considered the permitted
uses of the applicable district compatibility is not considered with potential conditional uses or with any non-conforming or unapproved uses also in establishing the compatibility of a residential use there is a there is no additional burden to demonstrate the compatibility of specific residents or activities protected by fair housing laws d appropriate of spot zoning where the proposed zoning would establish or reinforce a condition of spot zoning as defined in chapter
six the isolated district would nevertheless be transitional in character between the adjoining districts or the differences with those districts would be minor or sufficiently limited the extent of these mitigating characteristics or conditions demonstrates an appropriate sight specific balancing of interest between the isolated district and the adjoining lands and then criterion E appropriately changed or condition changing conditions if the land uses or development conditions within the area surrounding the property of resoning have
changed the changes are to such a degree in character that it is in the public interest to allow new uses densities or intensities in the area through resoning and the permanent uses of the proposed district are appropriate and not premature for the area are likely to create or contribute to sprawl at the beginning of each case as long as there are no objections from the applicant we will allow staff to briefly present the location and zoning maps of the photos in the property next we will hear from the applicant and any witnesses
that they may wish to call then we will hear from staff and any witnesses they may wish to call and finally we will hear from members of the public who have filled out a speaker request form and again those are located in the back of the room today uh we only have one case to be heard and the reasonzoning application for consideration is case uh Z2025-03 which requests reszoning of 7245 Bruner Street from MDR medium density residential
district 10 dwelling units per acre to HDR high density residential district 18 dwelling units per acre as requested by Corey Parker agent for Sza Ger the owner members of the board have there been any experte communication between you and the applicant of the applicant's agents attorneys or witnesses with fellow planning board members or anyone from the general public prior to this hearing have you visited the subject property and please also disclose if you are a relative
or business associate of the applicant or the applicant's agent no to all no to all no to all not to all no to all no to all no to all no at all all right uh staff was notice of the hearing sent to all interested parties yes sir all right was notice of the hearing posted on the subject property yes sir okay um Mr parker are you okay if we have uh staff present the uh photos and site
plan okay thank you good morning board allison Lindsay urban planner so these are the um 202503 resoning this is the location map showing the site this is the zoning map showing the parcel outlined in red for MDR surrounded by MDR and an HDMU this is the future land use map mixeduse suburban and this is the wellhead protection area the 20-year wellhead protection area and this is
the aerial photo of the site this is the public hearing sign that was posted on site and this is looking onto the subject property from across Bruner this is looking across Bruner um from the subject property and this is looking norththeast across Bruner from the subject property this is looking east along Bruner and this is looking west along Bruner toward um Baron Street this
is looking at the apartment complex that's east of the subject property on Bruner and that's the maps and photography all right thank you very much and um since the boss has arrived uh can we have the court reporter please swear in Mr jones you raise your right hand do you affirm that the testimony you're about to give in this case will be the truth i think that's do it for him thank you all right now um I'll have the applicant come forward and um have you be sworn in if you could just
state your full name and address for the record for us and we'll get you sworn in raise your right hand the whole truth i do corey Parker uh East Olive Road Pensacola Florida okay and then did you uh receive a copy of the resoning hearing package with the findings of fact okay yes sir and then do you understand that you have the burden of providing by substantial competent evidence um that the proposed resoning is consistent with the comprehensive plan furthers the goals
objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan and is not in conflict with any portion of the county's land development code yes sir okay i'll let you uh go ahead and walk us through you know your um application that you sent in to the to the county and you know um if you've gotten theirs their findings of fact and agree with with that too yeah I agree with all what the staff had to say um uh the owner's desire is to uh build a duplex on the property um initially she wanted to uh submit for HTMU but upon further review there was uses that
um HTMU provides that we felt um was you know really not necessary um and then the LDC it says that HDR is a good uh transitional between MDR and HDMU so we felt like that use was um uh you know really the best fit for this since we just want to do uh a duplex and um uh sewer's available water's available um uh so it wouldn't be septic and uh um that that was just the intended use for the owner they'd like to do a duplex okay uh are there any questions at this time for the applicant from the
board all right um thank you Mr parker and we'll have sit down if we got questions we'll get you back up here thank you all right uh staff I'll have you go ahead and make your presentation at this time okay so this is the request for 7245 Bruner and they're requesting to go from medium density residential at 10 dwelling units an acre to high density residential at 18 dwelling units per acre consistency with the comprehensive plan the proposed amendment
to HDR is consistent with the intent and purpose of the future land use mixeduse suburban the flu allows the flu allows for residential and non-residential uses while promoting compatible infield development and the separation of urban and suburban lands the applicant also has the right as a property owner to use maintain improve and develop his or her property for personal use subject to the state laws and local ordinances as stated in chapter 17 of the comprehensive plan criteria B consistency with the land development code the proposed
amendment to the HDR is consistent with the intent and purpose of the land development code due to the fact that HDR allows residential uses such as single family two family and also multifamily the applicant is requesting HDR's zoning uh designation for a 1.65 parac acre parcel mdr and HDR zonings do not allow for retail sales or services and they have the same uses such as in the public civic recreation and entertainment and agricultural categories within the zoning district
the main difference is that the MDR allows for one single family home on a parcel of land or 10 dwelling units an acre and HDR allows for single family two family as well as multif family at 18 dwelling units an acre compatible with surrounding uses as per LDC 3-2.8 hdr is a transitional zoning for areas zoned or used for MDR and areas zoned or used for HDMU
hdr is compatible with the surrounding existing residential uses the proposed zoning is a buffer between the HDMU which has a multifamily and the adjacent platted subdiv residential subdivision the existing uses on the ground are residential and one multifamily development within the 500 foot radius area properties were identified as MDR and HDMU the proposed residential use will be similar will allow similar uses with a greater density than the current MDR appropriate if spot
zoning it was determined that the proposed HCR would be considered spot zoning however spot zoning is not by itself prohibited the adjacent properties are already developed with single family and one multifamily development along Bruner Street appropriate with changed or changing conditions the established developments in the area have remained low density residential the request for highdensity residential indicates that the potential uses densities and densities allowed
could be compatible with the existing surrounding development pattern the proposed amendment would not create or contribute to urban sprawl and also the one thing that as the applicant stated he had considered the HDMU so if you look at the HDMU zoning categories actually reszoning to HDMU would be suitable where there were intermixing of uses and where have them where future uses were uncertain and in this particular case the man the applicant wants to uh do residential uses also
with the HDMU it's subject to location criteria which is more for non-residential uses such as commercial um and so he's asking for the HDR so it is a good transition between the current MDR single family and then the HDMU the existing apartment complex that has been there um at least since 2011 um actually I think it changed ownership in 2011 but it's been there for quite some time um and so if you see the current map um MDR the areas to the right the HDMU that portion
at the curve of Bruner is a that's the existing multifamily apartment complex that has been there um and so the surrounding areas are single family but this is a good transition so you don't have the intermixing of neighborhood commercial and that's in stats analysis all right thank you uh board are there any questions for staff i do i guess we'll just um might be having a brain fart or whatever but MDR does not allow duplexes no sir sorry so MDR the the old zoning of this was R2
if this had been R3 the two family would have been allowed without even having to come to the resoning um even a conditional use wouldn't it would allow town homes but not uh duplexes all right any further questions uh for staff all right um so at this time we'll move on to public comment and um I do have one speaker uh Candace Smith if you would please come forward
and state your name uh and address for the record and be sworn in and then we'll get your your time started hi I'm Candace Smith i live at 7490 Baron Place um I just have and then I've got to have you sworn in yes ma'am about to give this case the truth the whole truth nothing but truth yes I do um the neighbors around me are mostly elderly and disabled i'm the only one that was able to make it this morning but we are all concerned with the added traffic to that may come with this we
don't even know how many units they're trying to put in here because it says 18 per acre that's a potential for 28 units that's a lot of traffic with on this street where children play and a lot of noise we already put up with a lot of noise from the apartments that are already there we have disabled and and people with with anxieties and things like that on on Baron's place back there all that noise on the back side of our houses is going to be a big burden plus the added um point
of we're going to lose property value with that on the back side of our houses nobody's going to want to buy a house with all that behind us we all the neighbors on Baron Place feel the same way i'm just the only one that that could come here and speak this morning thank you and were there any questions for our speaker from the board no can I make a comment yes ma'am so I do want to um The applicant was actually asking for a duplex which is two dwellings um so it's one building and two units two dwelling units so even though this says
18 dwelling units an acre that's if you were to develop it into a subdivision that you could only have 18 dwelling units an acre but this is 1.65 acres and you're not going to get that density even if you wanted to go to something larger um but that their intent was just to do one building with two homes okay that's why I came to get all the details everybody else in the neighborhood so we could all have an understanding yes ma'am okay so it's going to be one one building one duplex so two families there okay thank you very much we we all needed some clarification let me
and let me that is what he's proposing but I do want to say for the record uh uh uh if if they do decide to do something else that was what we're talking about it definitely will be quite substantial uh for them to do that but I really don't believe Mr cory Booker is going to come in and do try to do anything different but but now we don't have condition on youth zoning right so the HDR basic has the potential to allow for that i want to be clear but if they do decide to do something differently it would be it there's another whole separate review process that will
basically cause it to be more challenging okay to do that so I want I want to be clear for the record in stating that okay quite substantial okay so there would be more hearings before that could happen that would Yeah there's another whole complete different process absolutely with more higher standards more regulations okay completely so it just won't be Oh yeah we're gonna do it it's just not that simple gotcha absolutely all right thank you very much and thank you for coming down too absolutely all right um board if there's no questions for staff the applicant or um or for our
speaker um I will entertain a motion if someone would like to make one i'll move to make uh to approve Z202503 as presented all right we got a motion got a second any discussion all those in favor please signify by raising your right hand all those opposed all right motion carries um 5 to one i had to do some counting there for a second uh all right that is the only
case we had today on the uh resoning meeting and so we will adjourn that and we will now call to order the regular planning board meeting uh the meeting of the Escambia County Planning Board for June 3rd 2025 is hereby called to order with eight members present we do have a quorum uh do we have proof of publication yes sir did the publication meet all legal requirements yes sir i'll entertain a motion to wave the reading of the legal advertisement do I have a motion motion we got a motion do we have
a second second second all those in favor please signify by raising your right hand motion carries the planning board meeting minutes for May 6 2025 have been provided to the board members the chair will entertain a motion to accept the planning board meeting minutes into evidence do I have a motion so moved got a motion have a second all those in favor please signify by raising your right hand motion carries the planning board hearing package for June 3rd 2025 has been provided to the board members i'll entertain a motion to accept the planning board hearing package and legal advertisement into evidence do I have a motion so moved do I have
a second second all those in favor please signify by raising your right hand all those opposed all right uh we have a public hearing today a public hearing concerning the review of an ordinance adopting the 2024 through 2028 update to the 5-year schedule of capital improvements that the board review and recommend to the board of county commissioners the BCC for adoption and ordinance adopting the 2024 2028 update to the 5-year schedule of capital improvements
for incorporation into part two of the code of ordinance uh staff will you go ahead and make your presentation let me watch the presentation but let me but let me state it for the record as you know uh I think I think walk been here um uh Mr spears been here Mr russy what our job as the development services department when it comes to the capital improvement program basically we are just the gatekeepers we just put everything together we do not review the other
uh the other department agency what they submit to us so if there's any other questions being it's a public meeting basically concerning a particular department you can miss Miss uh Miss Rachel she can take note of because it's still open for the BCC for adoption and they may they may pull into the department let's discuss that but as far as as far as us having any of the specific answers to specific departments we are just g keepers we just gather miss does a good job we've always done that and we just presenting but you definitely get your conversation noted
and we could basically relay them to other province that's all we can do at this point all right turn it over to you okay so there's really not much to say other than what Mr jones has said um this is a requirement um so every year we do an update we send out notifications to our office of management and budget solid waste parks recreation storm water traffic
all those school board um ECUA I mean um ECAT and so we gather that information a lot of times not until they have had their final adoption budget so they know you know so they put their project list together they they provide it to us um and then their their amendments and their ordinances and things get their budgets get passed and then they send us the information so like Mr jones said we just compile it together and then uh provide it to the board for review
all right uh we do have one speaker sign up i guess are there any questions for staff before we we move on to public comment none all right do have one uh public speaker Mr chris Kurb if you'll please come forward state your name and address and we'll get you going here good to see you uh Chris Kerb uh live in Crescent Lake on the west side um I'm with uh Flood Defenders y'all seen me
up here before i'll be real brief this morning um but uh the capital improvement plan is something that I've worked on every year for 25 years just about um when I work for the county and I still work on it with flood defenders from a standpoint of giving input and uh without going in specific
detail bill um I'd like to turn your attention to page six the purpose of the capital improvement plan it says "A blueprint for future community dynamics." So not a static accounting document but then it gets into why we're doing this for budgets and all that kind of stuff and it says the CIP plan is developed to achieve most efficient financial planning over an extended period of time
also goes in there and it says local government shall not issue development orders or permits which do not result in level of service reductions those are the two topics that I'd like to bring up first of all the numbers that you see in the budget for 25 26 all the way up to 28 29 they're actually based off of uh old estimates um specifically in the drainage budget because
I actually prepared that in around 201817 time frame and the numbers get pushed forward when they don't get spent but uh a lot of those numbers are based off of old estimates um I think it was last year's budget it showed that there's an excess of $19 million in local option sales tax funding that's not allocated to projects wouldn't it be a good idea to update
your numbers in your capital improvement plan and allocate those funds to projects because the numbers that are in the 2018 estimates that originally came up with came up with all this plan um they don't reflect the reality of what it's going to cost and this is a planning tool so uh that's one comment that I wanted to make uh on record um I've asked this of the board of county
commissioners uh at the last budget hearing last year when you going to allocate that $19 million to projects that are not funded adequately of course you know grants have been something good i will since my three minutes is up I I guess you can imagine the uh point I would make about local government not issuing development orders which do not result in reduction of service i'll finish that another time thank you thank you Mr k all right are there any
uh questions for staff if not just one okay just curious department to department when they're preparing their CIP report every year to update the five-year plan is it the individual department's responsibility to calculate for escalation and inflation they they they do look at those projects they do look at that now how they do it I do not know and I I do not want to speak without their knowledge so there's not someone centrally in control of budgetary
um facts that would apply an escalation or inflation factor i think I think what it says is it's a static document it's flexibility and those and and those things so of course the econom is always a factor is it is static the actual cost and it and it goes back to how much money is allocated from those funds so that's why static so that's that's my limited very very limited knowledge on that i do know that they do work with the budgeting offices
and the different and those different means so it is static is fluid so anybody else have any questions all right if not I'll entertain a motion if someone would like to make one do we have a motion to make here or is this Yes sir you definitely accept it pass it on it's required by the comprehensive plan yes sir like we do every year yes sir and this is what I'm saying and the board the board general is aware of it pass it get
it to them if they want more they call the such a matter expert we do every year and they could they can review it they could talk to those individual directors on it so so again you our job is just to get it to them for the public meetings and they could always have more commentary or more review and if they feel like you know more information is needed from the department the board of county commission they have they definitely have that authority as well so I'll move to approve since we have absolutely no authority or no say so in this budget I'll
move to approve it and we got a motion and a second any discussion on the motion all those in favor please signify by raising your right hand all those opposed okay motion carries uh we do have one more item recommendation concerning the review of the comprehensive plan annual report 2023 2024 that the board review the 2324 comprehensive plan annual report
yes so board this is every year uh we do this update um and we go through the different um we actually if you look at the update we don't have just this past years we've gone back and left the last two or three years in there for comparison um we do note the all the cases we have between the board of adjustment the planning board um all the DRC cases all the AIPD um cases So we
do just make this annual report as we update all our develop our DRC projects and everything um each year from each department each uh section of development services all right um and this isn't anything that we need to take a vote on but if if anybody's got some questions or um my biggest thing is always housing affordability and uh we have population trends but we don't really have a not seeing a clear need for housing unit stock or anything
like that in there i mean just in the future maybe we can start adding something like that something to just show hey where our need is specifically in segments like I said there is affordable housing in there but maybe afford a little bit more emphasis on the workforce housing so okay all right any anything else all right thank you guys um when there's no public anybody here from
the public to forum with us and um anything from staff county attorney director all right well then um let's see our next meeting is July 1st so don't let that sneak up on you it's always fun when it's the first of the month please be here we're going to have a development agreement a plan unit development a resoning and two small scales all right so
just emphasize that yeah it's quite critical it's quite critical if you're not going to make it please let let Miss Rachel know because those are legal documents public meetings and and we we we must have a quorum and I'm I'm quite certain I'm quite certain it's going to be rather extensive and rather labor intensive great so we'll see you on July 1st and uh Horus said that you can have that Friday the 4th off so we're ajourned