uh the date is March 6 2025 uh City Commission meeting uh please join me for a mo join us for a moment of silence and Pledge of Allegiance led by commissioner George as body I think I should do prayer
instead please uh take a moment and uh pray for us we need it pleas join me in the pledge I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liy and justice for all follow order uh Mary is there corm and proper notice been given yes mayor thank you uh Commissioners are there any agenda updates Tom uh yes based on the
action at the LPA uh we should uh remove item 5.4 from tonight's commission agenda 5.4 that is the uh comprehensive plan Amendment for the future land use change that was discussed at L okay right okay
thank you okay Commissioners uh can we have approval of minutes for February 20th 2025 so move sir second mayor seconded I couldn't hear thank
you Mr uh CH see if I can speak now commissioner as body on the this is on the approv the minutes a minute just I commissioner Holland hi vice mayor
Ashcraft I mayor Hawkins I okay uh we coming up to audience to be heard uh please when you approach the uh uh you approach the podium uh state your name uh if your city of eustus residents
uh we allow you three minutes and uh it'll start the minute you start talking um uh Christine Cruz uh think she left okay Pam
Ras no okay uh George Warren evening Mr George hi George good evening guys uh my name is George War I'm here tonight to represent Bank pharmacy at two East Magnolia I'm not a
eust as resident I live one block W City C I'm talking specifically about the do issue had Bay Pharmacy so this at magnolio in Bay Street um we have a bout is what the do calls them and we just
draw this to your attention because it's not your project but I think you have some influence for it um the these wouts of course uh by the Dot's definition are for the public safety you I know that's
so if the argument is for the public safety don't you want to protect the public and the question is of course we do but I have an issue with that because at the pH that that I don't know that street but I have a pharmacy that's at that corner and we take care of a lot of
people and we take care of their Public Safety and but them they're they're Medical Care and when you put that bulb out there you'll liate at least three of the parking available spaces for those patients to take for us to take care of and actually
you're committing for me it's almost business homicide because you're going to you're going to kill my business and I I think I've deserved the time I've been here in hou for you guys really to reach out and try to help me with the do to stop STP
that one bul out that's all I'm asking uh I thought we had it stopped U Mr Ashcraft told me this morning that that's scheduled to happen on March 17th for them to come in I'm threatening to lay down in the street or park my truck
there but don't probably tow it so maybe you can park your car there mr's body I don't know but it's really important you guys um I know representative danob is working on it at the state level talk today her Aid was
at the secretary ATT to the office today uh and she'll be talking to the secretary as soon as she can she's real busy right now so anyway I bring it to your attention I hope you can help you somehow uh it is a huge isue for Bay Pharmacy uh we do curb service out there
uh we take care of people they call us on the phone we bring their medication out and we do a lot of delivery and stuff at the pharmacy and I don't know if you realize it but we have 50 employees in that building so there's a lot going on in Bay Pharmacy that we need your help with anyway that's it
then I was at the meeting before and this was a hard act to follow but here I am but thanks thank you for your attention thank you George uh did we want to go back to Christine Cruz yes please just a quick l so I'm here
representing cleanth Eustace and I wanted to thank the city The Pest Control I guess it's a pest control company that comes out and does the weed control in the lake they did a fabulous job before George fest going through they cleaned out a ton of invasives over
about half of the Shoreland that we have and they did a wonderful job so I just wanted to make sure that y'all got the thank you and that you were aware a lot of those invasive have been pulled out and they really did good there's still a section of them that we'd like to see but overall they've done a fabulous job
so and if y'all aren't busy on Saturday 9:00 a.m. in the park we'll see you there thank you any more Tom uh Jane hiping good evening mayor Hawkins Commissioners thank you so much for all your service to this community I'm here to thank you uh but my name is Jane
hepting and I am a resident of Eustace at 206 Magnolia Circle and I'm also president of the Lake County Conservation Council and uh we sent you a letter February 12 uh just asking this commission to
protect our rural protection areas and the county keeps saying well our our the protections we have to protect our rural uh protection areas disappear when they are annexed by the
cities so we're hoping that the cities will enter into joint planning area agreements uh stating that they will not Annex into our rural protection areas um I'm here to thank you because
the um uh East Central Florida Regional planning Council has informed me that it has been meeting with some officials of uh eustus in the hopes of entering into uh such a joint planning area agreement
um if you uh ever schedule a a workshop uh on uh entering into a joint planning agreement uh joint planning area agreement um I hope you will invite some environmental
planners uh some environmental experts conservation experts and invite the public and allow everyone to speak I've been to some workshops where the public isn't able to speak and and I'll look around I'll say hey there's some people know a lot about this stuff and and maybe they should be allowed to speak
too uh but thank I also have um a map showing the rural protection areas here in Lake County and I ran into uh a councilman in another municipality in Lake County recently who had never heard of these he didn't understand this at
all so that's why I'm bringing a map to you and uh I'd like to distribute it to you thank you very much thank you Jay [Music] uh I have a card but it's for the time of the item okay all
right is there anyone else in the audience that uh has anything they'd like to say other than Chief Capri let all right hey thank you okay uh Commissioners we'll move on to the uh
consent agenda good all good can I get for approval of the consent agenda second okay um I had a question on 42 just so that I understand when it says approving multiple annual purchases exceeding 100,000 is there a cap or that's just an
unlimited anytime they want to buy asphalt forever to any amount I guess probably so that is what what you're basically doing is um accepting the vendor that Public Works has chosen and then it is they are
allowed to spend up to the budgeted amount with that vendor do you know what that budget amount is for asphalt recycled asphalt um but it's in the budget it's already in the budget it is already in the bud so we're approving what's in the budget yes but you have to approve any purchase over 100,000 we
have budgeted for asphalt for or whole repayment effort in the city is 450,000 that includes asphalt Mill and machine L rocket we need it so the asphalt component is probably going to be about
150,000 just give a take um we bring all of our continuing contracts so whenever we have material purchases that we think over the course of the year will exceed 100,000 we bring them to you so you're aware of these purchases that are coming
yeah I was just asking what's the top you know would want to know the top but you've already answered that roughly if I if we exceed our budget at all I have to come back to you for then I'm fine this is allur no qu no other questions would you like to pull the item from the consent agenda or no okay okay we had a
first and a second roll call commissioner as body yes I commer Holland hi vice mayor Ashcraft hi mayor Hawkins hi right it's my turn yes it's your turn
okay and again uh we have that St um straw pole procedure in place so um we'll be doing that with each item to ensure we can take action resolution number 24-70 a resolution of the city Commission of the city of Eustace Florida approving a preliminary
Subdivision plat for the Eustace sr19 subdivision a 275 lot single family residential subdivision on approximately 51.87787 19a alterate key numbers 178 2414 384 6883 and 109
4739 Mr Richardson um good evening uh for the record Jeff Richardson deputy director for development services um resolution 4470 is um for your consideration a preliminary subdivision PL
um not the official name from what I understand used a state9 residential subdivision um again it is for 275 Lots on approximately 51.7 Acres uh a little bit of background in history with this
one uh this was a submitted back in November of 2023 for the original review of the preliminary subdivision um plat for used to State Route 19 subdivision um Dr found plans technically sufficient uh on the first
go around on June 18th of 2024 this was brought me for put on the city commission agenda for September 5th um I believe we began hearing after some discussion um the question came up about community meeting uh I think there may
have been a couple of other issues that were brought up too um the commission elected to table the item um pending the applicant doing a community meeting um the applicant came back as
of um November 2024 and had submitted revised plans this um PSP came before you the first time with two waivers being needed one for uh setback from right of way um and the other was for a
little bit larger end Lots on their Town Homes um they were asking for I think 34t versus 32t the revised plan that they brought back to us in November does not have any waivers designed according to the the way the code is laid out uh
today um in January 2025 the DRC did find the preliminary subdivision flat plat technically sufficient um and therefore we began discussions on when to scheduled um however the applicant didn't hold their community meeting
until January 2 2nd of 2025 they did hold it virtually um I believe your agenda packet should have the documentation that the applicant provided to us with meeting summary as well as their I think it was copies of
the envelopes that they used for their mail out um and therefore here we are this evening uh this is the revised obviously at this scale you can't really see it um but the main point is on this side uh what the applicant did to address the
town home being a little bit too close to the RightWay they actually provided common area landscape Green Space area in between the right of way and actually their subdivision Lots so their end Lots will now have five foot setbacks which
is consistent with the town home lot typology um that was it that was completion I thought excuse me um so as we stated 51.87787 dwelling units per acre um 31% open
space so 16.8 of open space and approximately 4.3 34 Acres of park space being provided um General location for the area where we are um land uses so this is going to be
a little bit of uh explanation so the property actually has two land uses across the three Parcels it has a General commercial and it has a mixed commercial residential um um actually as well as the Design District also has two
design districts on it which is the uh Suburban Corridor and the neighborhood uh yeah Suburban residential so the explanation on the two land uses within the code um it does
have a provision that says if you have two land uses on a piece of property the majority of the land use on the property then can govern um kind of a summary of what's up
there in highlight so when we're looking at this in three Parcels the three individual Parcels we have one at 8.74 Acres um that is Standalone that is entirely mixed commercial residential the remaining two Parcels which is the
alternate key 1094 739 and 178 2414 are the two Parcels that are split um as you can see they are both uh 6.1 AC or 6.16 Acres mixed commercial
residential 2.45 um or 46 my vision is going a little bit um on the one parcel to the north mixed commercial residential can govern um on the parcel to the South 17.87% residential
govern so where we are in the process um community meeting that was held on January 22nd 2025 um they did not go through the concept plan or planning to development in this process so we are at the preliminary subdivision plan um for your
consideration next steps will be final engineering and then final plating uh again review the summary original plan was submitted uh October November uh first DRC held in December um June DRC gave its approval
came back to you in September of 2024 um based on discussion was tabled On That September meeting um applicant submitted a revised PSP in November of 2024 DRC found it consistent in January
of this year 2025 applicant did community meeting per um request on January 22nd 2025 and are now bringing us back to here March 62 at the commission
um background for some of the other technical uh traffic was done um there were some things that were noted that the applicant will need to address going forward essentially um the traffic analysis was what it was
it did not there was no capacity left um so it came back with a final recommendation that there will be some turn movements that will need to be addressed during final engineering constructions um environmental report essentially there really isn't anything
on there there was a recommendation that obviously in all environmental reports that prior to any construction you go back and you take a look again just to make sure that nothing is moved in shall we um so here we are at our recommendation
the development Review Committee has found the sub preliminary subdivision PL technically sufficient and we are presenting it to you today for your consideration for approval any questions from the commission actually I I have one Jeff um can you go back to the aerial um that
shows the uh the dirt road um yes yeah that one um and this probably going to be a question for the uh for the developer do you know how far your first town lot on the south part of that will be from
the business that's already there and the only reason I'm asking is they do they do quite a bit of live music it's we can't have yeah that the it would be the single family
that would be there across the ponds has there been any has there been any talk about what kind of buffers you might be able to use to keep some of the noise down do you have an answer to that question or did you want uh they their landscape plan was actually kind of a perimeter buffer they do have some tree
plantings around the ponds um not necessarily what I would consider to be a noise bot um but it's something that they certainly can consider during their final engineering okay yeah I would really um really think they' need to uh to look at that sir y thank you and the
applicant is here uh the applicant is here okay did you want to hear from the applicant as to that question before or did you want to do like a summary before let's do a summary before okay so we'll wait on that any other questions I I understand what uh you've
put forward um I think I have heard from hundreds of people in the community from before I even was elected and was out on the road for a year on on uh Reckless growth and on overdevelopment and uh
unfortunately I think this is this is an example of that and um it it we need to do the other things that we need to do to to try to help this density and and and things like that and
uh this is uh not not not good for our 25,000 aome people as you say Mr Mayor that's it okay all right thank you we'll hear from the public next do we have any cards Tom uh I have a card from Amanda
hall Hall you'll have three minutes up at the podium please say your name hi Commissioners nice to see your faces my name's Amanda Hall I um live in Three Lakes and I'm affected by all the growth
um the 549 houses going in at 44 uh the 60 that we've recently discussed that uh thank you for getting our roads taken care of finally it's kind of nice driving in there with some
good roads but uh just again um the population's getting crazy traffic's bad um I don't know that the traffic study is going to be correct once we have all these new homes that
are already in process um another 20 what 70 something more uh schools I saw today in The Outpost people are complaining about the Bears again didn't we talk about the
Bears stop stop because these bears are getting shot because we want to have a house to live in don't forget we live in their home and one got hit up here by the Dollar General about last year or
sometime and do you know when that usess word of mouth you tell a word of mouth nobody came and got that bear a civilian removed that bear the county the city nobody came and got that bear that bothers me that's our bears
and I know it's whatever but again I'm to time but there's too many houses about to go for sale because we all know the bubbles about the bus so we're going to build all these houses and then they're just going to sit
so they say no too much the got to find some more property somewhere El thank you Tom uh Edward Prentice thank you for your time um
Reckless that was a great word reckless you have two developments that don't have one house on them on this te Road you have another development further west on baits that's not
full you have properties that are being rented and not sold you have all these things coming I've lived there I live on the corner on that map you don't know how many wrecks I've seen you know how many deaths I've seen people upside down there's not a
red light that 44 I take that road to go to work at Wolverine six miles from my house it takes me sometimes 10 minutes to get out of my driveway we don't even have the homes in that when you're on 44 it's just a
traffic jam it's a two lane road what are we doing we got to stop somewhere and really look red lights turnarounds not speaking of Pine Meadows Pine Meadows reserves they're on the back side of there how many homes are
going in there it's they cleared all that off when you start talking about messing with Wetlands you're building on Wetlands we have problems I know the water runoff comes out of Three Lakes goes down through on
the other side of 19 and it comes across it goes through and it goes out to Lake y I've lived there I grew up here graduated here it's I'm not
opposed for Change and something new but we're getting Reckless with a lot of stuff and we really need to look at it we got too many developments going on we don't have enough people and we do not have the traffic and the roads ready for
this type of people to show up and we need to look at that too so that's that's my my take on that um you know just we need to be more concerned about
the 25,000 people listen to what they all have to say and understand that it's more than just a house it's more than just developer coming in and making his money and leaving it's more than people
coming to this state because they have a pension and the people here in the State of Florida is a right to work state we don't have the luxuries that they have in other states and all the extra money and there's a lot of these people
the young way talk living three ways some people just live paycheck to paycheck and it's tough and we're getting swallowed up I don't care if you know the rate went up for um money it it
doesn't matter because we're getting consumed with higher price on eggs I live Waffle House 50 cents for an egg really you know but we have to really understand it is getting really Reckless so thank you for your time
thank you uh Jeremiah Laro all thank you ladies and gentlemen of the board my name is Jeremiah LNO and I am hitting the nail on the head like everybody else on here and basically
just com to say that it is too much I understand that there was a uh development checked or something or some sort of traffic check that went on there I'm sure that man showed up sometime but it had to be 3:00 in the morning or something because that traffic up there on the intersection to the south of that
development is in constant state of pushing you further back that you can't see the Publix nor the wind Dixie if that red light goes on that is the unfortunate truth whenever there's actual traffic there now I'm not saying that they're incorrect completely that it can't be a manageable traffic on
there but Lake County has a lot of issues that goes on there and there's a lot of other counties that have a higher population than us that go on fine but we want quality here and you guys are working very hard to do that and we would like the same on there it is too
much to have all those people that are going to be there along with the saying earlier there's going to be other developments as well all that just coming together is just going to be too much on the track that's already being Hammer pretty bad on there everyone here can agree that there was at one time an
easy way to drive through Lake County it's not anymore it's a lot harder to do and that's for better obviously developing Lake County we can't always be relying on horses and stuff we've gone further than that but we need to also just take time to make sure that we are building a quality
County so that people will want to move into there and bring obviously more tax revenue and things like that take that in consideration yet again this is resting on y'all's hands and a lot more people I know y'all aren't the end all be all of
it the county holds some responsibility to this too probably a little bit more than well they should but there's that ultimately I just ask that you guys just take your time and make the best decision you can I'm sure you will thank you very much for
the time thank you that's it as far as cards okay do we have anyone in the audience that did not fill out a card that wishes to speak on this item okay I'm seeing no one else but we will hear from the applicant now oh did he want to talk first I think he
did I'll I'll introduce him he's he's Council for the powers family next to our development good evening Logan opsol 215 North Yola Drive uh good to be with the council tonight uh you recall this project we were here back in September
5th uh I'll be brief because we got a good overview from staff but uh at the board's direction we did have a community meeting uh so our time away was well spent we we covered the items uh addressed both by this body and the folks we heard
uh at that September hearing uh we we had a good healthy attendance at the community meeting a lot of overlap from the folks you heard from uh of course the powers family owns the adjacent uh some considerable lands next to ours to the West so they were involved as well
uh we've had ongoing conversations with them at at your direction um but in terms of tweets to to the PSP uh we added a a TT lot of course at mayor's suggestion thank you for that uh we identified the commercial future development uh separate from our
ownership but uh for clarity sake again at your direction um we we address the uh continued access concerns with the powers and I'll touch on that briefly as well again we've had ongoing conversations and then of course remove the waivers which I knew were uh cost
and pause for the board so we were able to take care of those things and clean up the PSP quite a bit um so so we we we took to heart the uh the direction of the of the board as it relates particularly to the powers
family and in our ongoing conversations with them we want to submit to you uh some conditions of approval tonight some voluntary conditions uh to to provide you know a higher Comfort level for all parties involved uh so I'll I'll read
those in and we can address those you know appropriately uh the internal RightWay and the PSP and utilities will be stubbed on the property line of the powers parcel uh to to service that parcel in the future uh during construction of our
development the existing uh dirt road access which you saw on the aerial will remain and it's and it's 20 foot uh we'll we'll tweak the configuration as necessary in conjunction with the power family so that will remain access will remain and upon final plat which will
come back before this body uh the powers will uh have the right to utilize uh that dirt road at that 20 foot width until uh any future development occurs on their property or any improvements of of any kind uh and lastly I just want to
note this isn't necessarily a condition for uh the PSP I'm not sure that's quite appropriate as a condition um but I just wanted to note uh in good faith on the record in our conversations with the powers that we will allow for uh some
temporary signage uh Wayward finding or the like uh on our property to help facilitate again access to theirs uh and and we'll continue to work with them uh as it relates to the the easement uh that's existing and and future
agreements in that regard Mr Crawford's uh the powers family land use Council he's here today uh so so Jimmy if I miss anything you you can fill in the blanks uh and I'll stand for questions as well thank I'm sorry I have really nothing to add to that my name is Jimmy Crawford
I'm lawyer with Crawford M and Hol 380 West Alfred Street dear's and I'm happy to be here tonight um they have um Highland has been very good and Cooperative to work with um the
powers had reasonable asss and all have been met at this point um by the developer now if any of those three or four promises don't work out between now and Final and we'll be back but I I
don't expect that I expect that it's going to go smoothly and we support the application thank you thank you Mr craford you can come any questions for the applicant 279 2075 59 single family homes the 260 Town
Homes okay when you went back uh what did you start out with how many did you start out with well the uh underlying future land use allows up to 12 that was never going to work so we've we've you know working our way down is where we
arrived at 275 candidly Mr Mayor I'm not sure what internal numbers we looked at before but that's that's where related about uh just under half of of what's allowable when you were before us the last time we talked about commercial as
part of this as well and I don't see that on on this yeah so we have worked with the commercial owner we don't have that under ownership but we did uh heed that word and have that properly identified on our PSP for for future commercial growth and we're you know
going to cooperate within as it relates to utilities and all other access for proper site circulation I mean the only thing that I like I said I'm worried about um really would put some thinking in what kind of buffers you can do for sound
between the town homes and that property just to um you know make it comfortable for everybody yes or Mr vice mayor that was kind of leading to the group that was first time we heard that note so s of find I thought I thought I brought it up last time too um I'm not sure I'm
pretty sure I did um as well as the commercial aspect I mean I would have loved to seen more commercial um you know something in front of all the town homes but you know um you do have the right to do what you uh are allowed to
do but um the buffering I think would be something to really consider I appreciate you Fe that sure any other questions or comments for the applicant thank you for your time thank you you well uh Mr Mayor we'll go ahead uh
do you want to have the discussion first or do you want to have the straw poll first STW po just just straw poll okay so as far as uh resolution number 2410 um do we have um support for a motion to
move forward with this item okay commissioner Holland say no commissioner ASB no vice mayor I mean they're they're they're they're meeting our code in every way I believe that's
the information that was received tonight at thisp they have satisfied they need to satisfy for the development okay I I'd be for approval okay Mr Mayor no okay so
um would you like to make a motion to table the item for commission early or you want to have the item heard this evening understanding that any decision puts uh puts this item pretty much a moot for the next nine months unless they come back and we do have limited
discretion as the board uh the commission has limited discretion when it comes to the plats considering the information we received from the yeah and if I can if I can may say I mean this is just going to be another
SDS and a couple other developments if they're meeting our code in every way I mean why why we would want to like this well perhaps you should have discussion I'll answer that to before I sit down this is the as we discussed
last time you know PSP is a ministerial act once we meet our code sir I think she's asking you to hold yeah one second Mr Mayor he needs to determine that he has the opportunity to speak because we already Clos 20 seconds I'm just yes go ahead okay thank you I'll sit down thank
you're good uh yes as you're staff said we we of course our our job is to meet or exceed code and so and following the PSP procedural guidelines we've presented to you um again I think a
cleaned up PSP per your code there's not more we can do we've we've we've met our burden and so I believe functionally and Madam attorney can speak to this that it really becomes a ministerial act at this point uh to to approve following those
those conditions precedent being satisfied yeah well like I indicated there's a limited discretion for the commission when it comes to items that are not seeking waivers for approval I make a motion that we table this until we have a full City commission for
consideration commissioner Holland but we have three already saying no so let's just assume that commissioner uh lee would go opposite of that it was still three so we we we put everybody through that but I'd like to give her heard the
the uh the ability to to to speak because she may say something that may so procedurally what happens is once I identify um where there's a 31 then um if there's additional discussion and we
want to include we can still table it so that she has input when it comes before the commission but we still have 31 it wasn't an official vote it's is just to kind of take the temperature of of where this is headed
um so there's a motion on on on the floor I am for having I I can't say that I would not be for having a full commission panel here but uh and I was for that on the previous issue which I lost on but I was just saying if we're
already three against let's save time and and effort we've moved on but okay well there's there's just a motion to table so if we could is there a second to table the item I just I want to be clear there's nothing more we can offer on a tabling and again Madam attorney if
you want to speak to this is a function of TR have a discuss can you it's already been explained they understand they understand so would you I I I don't make the decision here so it's up they're the
ones that are voting there's statutory ande comp I understand do we have a second what what's the motion motion to table this until we have a full commission because if we vote on it it
will go down and it can't be brought back for nine months right yeah and of course there is a possibility that we will be dealing with litigation related to this matter again there's limited discretion what's wrong with that uh Mike if it doesn't come back is there a
purpose what's what I don't know want be everybody involved I'd like to to table it you want to Second my motion then will okay first and so we're tbling it for commissioner Lee commissioner Lee all right um can we get so we'll go through
this whole process again with her we will we get it will be the next meeting that she's here which I which is the 20th I believe 20 the next meeting would be the 20th I just want to make sure we don't have any noticing or advertising it's a
resolution so we should be fine say if I have to advertise again for this it's a DAT you don't as long as we're cleared on that because I'm passed my deadline to send it to the yeah it's a resolution and it's it's yeah that's not an issue um and we
anticipate that she will be here on the 20th correct let's just make sure that that's the case we we as of right now we have a full commission on the 20th okay great so we'll do the for the March 20th okay we can have a vote Mary I'd hate to see a can of worms keep going
but Mary roll call commissioner as body no not to table commissioner Holland I vice mayor Ashcraft n
Hawkins I okay so we're at a 2 two that does that doesn't get us anywhere um so then this item has to be voted on tonight so is there a motion on the table for resolution number uh 24-70 to proceed for
approval I make a motion to deny it I'm sorry okay there's a motion to deny there a second hearing none the motion dies for a lack of a second so is there a motion on the table to approve resolution number 24-70 I'll make a motion to for approval
do we have a second can we reopen this for discussion brief we haven't finished up with the motion so there's a motion for approval on this table is there a second Mr Mayor you can have pass the Gabel if you'd like to second the motion
I think we need to have discussion for the motion do you want it we need a second to to discuss the motion I'll second it so you can discuss okay they're uh they're asking for no waivers as as as Gary said
um I'm not crazy about it uh but I don't know if there's anything that we can do I don't believe there is and like I said so why do we why do we want to go down this road like we did with SG Reserve like we did with two of
the other ones you know unfortunately our codes our code is is is is is is handcuffing us yeah it really is and now knowing that when a parel like that has more
MCR than commercial it goes to that one I once again like I said my my biggest ask of that of that property would have had more commercial in front y um but once again our code our code is kind of hindering us from asking for that and um
I think commercial would look a lot better um on that Corridor with tow houses behind behind it um but um they don't own it right so no but I mean yeah no I I agree agree with you I agreee with you and maybe once again this has
brought something toight that we might need to look at in the future when our code has um or when partial has two uh you know two codes on it what uh what really can uh can dominate so and like I said I don't understand why we're just
going to just delay just delay it and we're going to wind wind right back up here in the same situation and then once again we're going to we're going to have to vote vote for it so I know it's not U uh uh I know nobody wants
it so if that's the case it's a tough decision I I there's a lot of problems in the and the the residents spoke great they spoke well but I do want to say we're not do those roads belong to the
state please don't hold us responsible for what doot doesn't or do or whoever it be County State whatever we unfortunately don't control that we're watching that we want to do that for you but we we our hands are ti you can't
talk our hands are tied know that I hear that and all we can do is speak our peace here whether it's popular or not and that's why I'm saying no and I think we need to just deal with it it's a tough one uh
and and if we have three of us saying no then it's it's it's no and we can always can we come come back later and decide to say that we want to resend the fact that we said no and hear it or even with a majority vote we cannot bring it back for n months no
there's a procedure there's a procedure for that there's a procedure sorry but I mean but why go through all that you're right you're right I mean why through all that I mean I understand I'm with I'm with you on this one why we're just going to we're just going to be we're
going to run wind right back up here dealing with the same tough decision that I we know nobody want yeah I'm with you so if you're if you're open to I would like to make the same motion again and we have a motion on the table second
well sorry I'm sorry um no you can continue discussion but the the we have a motion in a second but I just wanted to reiterate that they don't have any waivers so there really is no discretion for the commission and that will and I understand um basically there's an
exposure to litigation that you yeah no and I'm just uh educating the public as well we had this issue with another development and um you know that's just something to consider because if you can say no but if the court says yes then
we're we're here and then you've incurred additional fees for that so Mr Mayor at the end of the day I don't like this development at all it's too big I agree we ask for commercial it's not there but we all have sat here tonight and many of us have said we've
got 20 5,000 residents that we have to answer to we're going to get sued at the end of the day um so that's will play a big part in What I have to at the end when I vote um I I when I started on this
Commission in 2008 2009 I spent the first five years on this Commission in a lawsuit that almost ruined the city of Eustace and I will and I V at that time never to put the city back through another lawsuit over
land use issues we've got to get ourself in order and fix our problems the way the state legislature has stuff written we are handcuffed at this time so so if we do a if we table if we table
it then we leave Communication open to possibly bring it back I agree but I think I'm sorry well nless we nless we find compromise that everybody's happy with Council I I I believe you're stating that you're not going to make any other adjustments
correct and it's okay just say yeah sorry what's being presented will be continue to be presented that's thank you yes so I mean I I know we all don't want it I we I know we all don't want it but we're handcuffed we're just handcuffed
and he's obviously stated that they're not going to make any other changes so and they don't have to they have a right not to so let's let's just not prolong us I'm sorry I know I know it's it's not a popular thing to say but let's let's not
prolong it and we just you know let's be a little bit more efficient and you know and and and move it you know what was the last motion the motion was for approval for approval and that it was second it so we we do need to vote on the motion okay and the motion how about
the motion to wait for Emily that was not it was a 2 two so that's there's no option so the motion on the floor is for approval of this can I get it first well we already have have it I call for the question okay we second it was already second okay all right it's time to vote
I would like to see Emily pres I made I'm sorry I made the motion for approval okay I don't think I got a second though you did you seconded it you did oh I did discuss discussion okay you're thank you roll call
Mary commiss ASB no commissioner Holland I vice mayor Ashcraft I mayor Hawkins begrudgingly I yeah thank you sorry ma'am okay all right we ready for the
next item we have resolution number 25-11 oh I will hold off with the the noise one second give the audience an opportunity to exit fix
build thank you all right all right the next item is resolution number 25-11 a resolution of the city Commission of the city of hustus Florida providing for a compromise reduction or satisfaction of an outstanding code enforcement lean
against Real Property located at 16001 Orange Drive hustus Florida authorizing the city manager to perform all necessary actions consistent with the city commission's determination in this matter in order to give effect to the provisions of this resolution and providing for an effective date Mr Martin
good evening Commissioners for the record my name is Eric Martin code enforcement supervisor for the city of e not used to that movie do I need to notice by the time resolution number 251 came the city Commission on January
16th 2025 to approve a code enforcement Bo order reducing outstanding code enforcement fines from the current amount of 2,750 13,230 the commission could not come to a consensus and they tabled the matter
so the resolution was revised and it provides for the city commission to consider a compromise considering or regarding the reduction of fines recorded asan against 1601 East Orange Drive the remedies proposed by the City
attorney are as follows no payment shall be due and the city the city shall promply release the lean or the full payment $28,800 remain pable uh to the city or the lean shall
be reduced to an amount to be determined uh if said payment is received by the city within a specific number of days that the commission seems fit um from the effective date of the resolution uh failure to comply would
result in the compromise being n void and the original Lan amount being immediately reinstated in full staff recommends approval of resolution number 25-1 okay that's it other questions from the
commission for Mr Martin but there was options for the approval so what what are you recommending I'm going to recommend what I recommended before to the code enforcement board that we go ahead and resend the the $
2,850 if you recall this is a tax de sale the city's already collected over 6,000 of those code fines there were a total of code fines of 95350 so it wasn't enough to satisfy so we're left with the the 28
750 but but we got but we did get a payment of 68 correct yes 68 66571 okay but zero that came from I'm sorry what what did the code enforcement board recommend the code enforcement board uh
recommend so the um the owner that bought the property from a tax de cell and brought it into compliance requested a full reduction the code enforcement board denied that and would only reduce it to 13,230 which was say they would reduce
it to 13,000 correct code the code enforcement board correct the code enforcement board uh reduced it from 28,750 to 13,230 that's the recommendation they put for just so I'm clear to this date the actual property
owner if we go with your recommendation would pay zero the new owner yes yeah the new owner the owner okay but you have three options are we in discussion or where are we who who pays the
13,000 the new property and that new property owner knew there was a lean on that property when he purchased the new property owner states that they thought they bought the property free and clear but if you go into um actually I previous previously
previously stated when you go on the look at Court's website under the the lands that are to be sold for tax deed that the that that it listed the leans actually went back through it it doesn't list the leans but it has is a lean holder it shows that the city was
notified of you know they have interested parties the the property owner that's outdated on the taxes and then any other incumbrances so the county sends out those notices um and I've actually you you
have to dig through it but you can find it you have to go to the FAQs to know that a government lean does not get washed out from a taxed cell but you have a lot of I don't with I don't know this company that bought it I don't know how much experience they have don't know if it's the first one
they bought I don't know if it's the 15th one they bought okay so it did say that there's some lean just didn't say how much is what you're saying right it shows incumbrance usually um like like I mentioned in the past the day of the sale my phone will usually ring off the
hook on this case it did not because all the lens are recorded in public record Mr Mayor you've got the chair of the code board here also so there's any questions we have he's asked to speak but I want allow allow we let him speak
and discuss after just wait until we're done with yeah of course okay just to make sure we have any questions for for Eric and just as a refresher this did come before the commission probably a month ago yeah a little over a month ago and um we had
the situation that we have now which was for uh person uh commission and there was some back and forth as to what each commissioner thought would be appropriate to do so we were kind of tied based on the language of the resolution so it was revised to give you
that flexibility and we did have a discussion I explained the tax seed process how it's a buyer beware situation it's not like your typical uh sale where you have a full title search and you know exactly what's out there that is on the onus is on the person
that bids at these sales um and the the county will notify any lean holders or interested parties if there are surplus funds from the sale once taxes are satisfied and that's how we we received notice and there was a portion of that that was paid to the city already and I
could you state that amount yes the amount that was paid to the city was $ 66571 um right okay think I want to just disclose just that I was on the on the code enforcement board during in this process um and that I we listened to a
lengthy uh questioning and conversation between the property owner and uh and uh came to that unanimous uh I think I think probably he will comment on it so uh I think I'll hold off I'll reserve
the right to comment but that's fine if we would let I guess I see Allan walk okay so we will hear from the chair and for the code enforcement board the city first and then we'll go to the public if we have any cards go ahead thank you um
I guess my first question before I present what I am going to share with you this evening is last time we had a problem with the board being able to or the Commissioners being able to vote on this because you had a commissioner that
was absent do we have the same concerns this evening we will have a strap hole vote again but the the way that we handled um that particular situation because there was varying um feedback from the Commissioners as far as what
should be done we built in the options that were laid out by Eric earlier about whether there's no payment full payment um whether they choose to go with your recommendation which would be a reduced fine and then that could be manually filled in based on the direction of commission as well as a time for
compliance so that action could take place thank you sure um before you make your final decision with respect to uh the Rewritten resolution I would like to on behalf of the code enforcement Board address some
previously known facts that were discussed at the January 9th Theory but more importantly bring to your attention some unknown what I believe to be very pertinent facts and valid concerns regarding this case uh in quick summary
at the December 9th code enforcement Board hearing after listening to the background and evidence presented by Mr Martin and also reviewing the written request and rationale from Mr zadra who is the owner of tributa investment a
for-profit LLC requesting a total accured fine reduction of $28,750 to zero code enforcement board unanimously voted 7 to nothing to reduce the accured fine
to 13,320 or $230 which amounted to a fine reduction of $1 15,520 obviously pending approval of the city commission at the January 16th
commission meeting resolution 2511 was on the agenda and a packet was prepared by Mr Martin provided to commission by the city manager Mr as part of that packet Mr Martin provided chronological background and a factual summary of the
case which revie was reviewed by Captain Fanning in which stated that the administration recommended approval of re resolution 25-11 which would reduce the outstanding code enforcement fines from
28,750 to 13,230 and release the lean against the subject property so staff's initial recommendation was to improve recommended approval of the code enforcement board's order and during
questioning Mr Martin pointed out that the CB ruling code enforcement board ruling also stated that the commission as you always do have the authority to either change the CB order by lowering or increasing the amount we recommend to
the city commission with respect to the fines that were owed to the commission um just very briefly and no offense but at that time uh he apped some
concerns uh among other things regarding the code enforcement board which there's no need to revisit tonight as a City attorney explained at that time there was this was a courthouse sale for failure to pay taxes
and should not be cons paired to a regular property sale they're two separate into state sales City attorney also explained and informed the commission that any legally filed leans against the property are
available to prospective biders and that purchase of the property does not extinguish or forgive any outstanding leans against the property since they run with the land thus the buyer beware concern and
caution on December 12th 2023 tributed Investment LLC based in Dural Florida bid on and purchased the property at 1601 Orange Drive for $81,300
and on that date there were 95,3 and ACR code violation leans against the property not including the back tax upon purchase as was explained at the last hearing the daily acral of code f
stops since it's the code enforcement's board policy not to continue uring fines against a new owner that the uh after the sale the city who was a valid lean owner was notified that a surplus from
the sale existed and was available to the city submit City committed a claim and received $66,500 owed to the city after the sale tributa LLC a for-profit LLC contacted
the city and within a very short short period time corrected all the external violations trees and Shrubbery which were the basis for the existing code violations additionally according to Mr Martin the house was completely
remodeled and renovated and placed on the market for sale I can only assume that none of the Interior remodeling or renovation required city permits the property was listed for 250
,000 and listing photos verify a complete renovation and remodel of this 55y old home yet only a rof permit was obtained from the city it then appears that during the closing process for the sale of this
property uh the lean of $28,750 was identified at that point Mr zadra owner of tributa investment LLC submitted a notorized fine reduction application to
Mr Martin requesting that the existing acred fine of 28,750 be reduced to zero attached to the application was a typed letter signed by Mr Geraldo zadra as the manager owner of tributa
investment LLC stating that he purchased the subject property through a tax deed sale conducted by Lake County on December 12th 2023 for the aforementioned uh $81,300 and that he
fully believe and understood that the property was purchased free and clear of any prior leans as a City attorney has clearly stated a tax deed sale is unique in part because it does not extinguish any
existing leans against the property once again the reason for the buyer beware clause the code enforcement board very carefully considered and thoroughly discussed all the evidence and facts presented with the fine reduction
request and unanimously voted to reduce the existing fine by $1 15,520 upon approval once again by the city commission we made this decision based in part on giving the benefit of the doubt to Mr zadra who should have done
his due diligence as the owner of a for-profit Investment LLC especially on a tax deed Courthouse sale and the other fact that we considered was that he coupled uh or he quickly mitigated all the existing code
violations and very much improved the appearance of the property both externally and internally that being the history now let me share what I find to be some very relevant and very important but
previously unknown totally undisclosed facts Mr zadra is a licensed and practicing attorney in Florida say what now Mr zadra is a licensed and currently practicing
attorney in Florida Mr zadra is the owner of zader Law Firm a Onan law firm located in Dural Florida so why am I concerned primarily because in his fine
reduction application Mr zader claimed that he fully believed since he bought the property at a tax deed sale it was totally free in clear of any prior existing leans my question to the City
commissioners is would it not be reasonable and could one not justifiably expect that a Florida licensed and practicing attorney who is also the sole owner of a for-profit Investment LLC know the
law know the rules and know the risk and realities associated with an involved in pouse tax deed sales is due diligence given these nowk known facts is my sole opinion that Mr zadra misled
the code enforcement board in the city of Hess by not disclosing the fact that he had that he was also an attorney and should have known the rules of the game and evidence and testimony presented to the code enforcement board is always
done under oath had the fact that Mr zadro was an attorney who was engaged and had engaged in other Courthouse sales been known by the CB I believe I speak for my members
and stating that had we known this information we would have unanimously voted to completely deny his request for any fine reduction I'd be glad to answer any questions you may
present okay I got thrown a curve so just to go over this I'm sorry sorry what you what you want to know no nothing I was Bel I don't own
any any of the property in I don't have any ownership I think we've gone over we can't talk over each other cuz we can't get a clear record I'm just think he just was going to say something I wanted to 18 I'd like to get out of here yeah I can say we've read the
agenda packet he's given a really good explanation I don't what else we need to go over sorry but but it's your time George I'm sorry I wish I knew which way you were thinking then I would save us a lot of no you're not getting that so I'm not
getting [Laughter] that well nothing would surprise me so you said something I was never aware of the inside has been renovated there is no permits ever for that the only uh permits that were issued was for R roof
so nothing for plumi with the nothing for Windows nothing for any of those and those require permits right am I right windows and plumbing and water heater require when I previous previously stated remodeled you know um I don't recall that there I don't believe the
windows were replaced I think they're all the original so they replaced the roof and the the staff code enforcement has no knowledge that they did any work that requires permits okay Mr Mayor at the
end of the day what's in front of us is a reduction of this fine none of the other permits really at this point it it doesn't make it difference we should have count it back then and and and I thought the goal of of Code Enforcement is compliance is he he's
complied he did it in in a fairly timely fashion and um he lied to the board he lied under oath under oath well you know what I have a question if this was a eustus resident would we be treating them the same way
if they lie under oath they lie under oath it really doesn't matter who they are if they changed Windows if they change water heaters I looked in the pictures they've changed all that it is done it is listed online that way they changed them they lied about that too
permits are not the subject of were they part of the discussion in front of the code enforcement board nor they influence our decision plain and simple the only man before us right now is the fine cor uh I think at this point we should take a
vote on George was asking what we were thinking and I'm going to tell you where my mind is we have a code enforcement in place three of us served on it we know what it's like sitting on it that code enforcement board reduced it to 15,000
whatever I'm going to take I will always take the recommendation of the code enforcement board and I know we're here to to to get compliance instead of money to me right now that's not what this this is about it it the code enforcement
board has recommended something and I think that's where we need to go just my opinion okay to to be clear there are three things I think that are on there that so we are voting Sasha to either agree to the 13 take away the 13 and reduce nothing
or wave everything am I right you have all the options available okay and but we do need to uh ask for additional public input before there's any vote on anything or any motion on the floor and I appreciate the information but I don't know I have no knowledge of the
applicant or his status uh as an attorney or anything like that so is he here he on the website okay his website I just have I haven't checked I just want to let them know um so do we and he's not here go and he did not
appear in front of the code enforcement okay let's let's let's move on please wait if he did not appear how how he did not appear in front of the code enforcement board he submitted a written application that was notorized okay byly recommends if they do attend the
hearing you know we obviously can't requ all right anything else Alan no thank you anyone else in the audience wishing to speak on this item thank you please come up and state your name try to keep it to three minutes
please yeah Tom you're on buzzer Duty let's go Brian that one better Brian Broomfield I'm a usess resident I just heard it all you can't be that dumb and that smart at the same time I think you ought to go
back to the 28,000 and charge but that's just my thank you thank you sir I have someone else yeah we have another person wanting to speak
um Mr Griswald actually right ACR the street from this house this Jeff's house oh okay uh he did get a per Roofing but because I turned in just something else just to throw in
the mix I agree with gentleman right there go ahead and go for the full 28,000 don't ride him off you know he he didn't get any permits I I went through the house after he got it done I worked for a contractor i' had to get permits everything he did in the house that's not on the table I'm not saying that but he's not forthcoming and
treating the city well we shouldn't turn around and treat him as any better okay thank you would just mik here please I would just reiterate that in my opinion and there's two other members of the board here
there's a sitting member of the city commission who was on the board for this hearing and I truly believe that had we known all the facts and we weren't miss Mr Zapata didn't misrepresent
himself uh we' have ripped up his request and we would have recommended a full fine of $28,500 to the city commission thank you Alan and last call for anyone from the public all right seeing none we will
close the public hearing um component of of today's of resolu I'm already righted um resolution number 2511 you want to have discussion first before we I'm ready to motion um what is your
inclination so that I know my motion would be uh to approve resolution 25-11 at the full amount of $228,500 okay vice mayor no what what amount are you thinking um I'd say zero You' still
want to forgive you want to reduce it to zero and I want and when a eess resident come here and asked for the same thing but we'll we'll we'll we'll deal with that later but no we he's paid enough um I'm not sure about the other facts he's paid enough they're not actual charges
to the city they were just a crude code enforcement I I say I say given given the benefit of the doubt and zero surprisingly enough uh you know I I listened to the the code enforcement chair and I was like where's this going
you know uh but when he said attorney he knew what he was doing he knew the law uh he knew what to look for and before Mr Broomfield said I'd take it back up to 28 I was already there so I
agree 28 exactly what he said all right so it sounds like we at least have consensus um through the stole for approval of resolution 2511 with the full payment option which is the second remaining due
and payable to the city 28,750 is the amount I make that motion if we need that can we deny the resolution and then the reduction doesn't go anywhere and then the 28,750 becomes
due wouldn't that be deny the resident because it's a Rec it's a recommendation from the code enforcement board for the city commission to reduce it from one amount to another amount it says compromised says no on the resolution doesn't it just automatically stay at
28,750 well the leans wouldn't be exchanged but it actually says compromise uh and the compromise is different than what came before Commission in January which was the 13,000 and change figure okay um so that's why the three options are there
and it's different than what we heard before sure because before we were at 13 and then somewhere at zero somewhere at 100 Etc did um and he had the opportunity to be here today I'm sorry the property owner I haven't had any
communication with the property owner since he submitted the application okay but he had the I mean all of this has uh has been he's not going to come in front no I didn't notice him he lied under oath he he didn't attend the um he didn't attend the code enforcement board meeting and he hasn't been noticed about
the he had even he hadn't even asked okay okay all right okay thank you so we will just proceed with uh as as we have it indicated here and we have the 28750 on the table so a motion to approve I have a motion to approve resolution 2511 I'll
second that okay Mary vote again with a condition being full payment of the 28750 full payment no reduction at all okay I was just confirming okay motion is to approve the resolution with the lean remaining or
fine remaining at 28,000 right okay Mr ASB yes I Mr Holland hi vice mayor Ashcraft nay mayor Hawkins
I thank you we have one more item do we wish to I'm okay with one more item but the rest of it we need to okay uh let's take and I hate to do that to staff that's been sitting here waiting but it's it's late
and Gary I don't think we could be able to get through it quickly so yeah I agree I agree to uh to T or to to continue the rest of it later George I think Mike said do one more and then table Yeah
correct yeah I'm with I'm with commissioner Holland on that finish up the items that we had for tonight I'm not an objection to doing the whole thing but I'm I'm with commissioner Holland on that thank you okay so then we'll proceed with resolution number 25-8 a resolution of the city Commission of the city of Eustace Florida providing
for a reduction of an outstanding code enforcement fine and release of lean against Real Property located at 2260 Swani Avenue upon full payment of the reduced fine Mr Martin good evening uh again for the record Eric Martin code enfor supervisor
for the city of us resolution number 25-8 approves a code enforcement for order reducing outstanding code enforcement fines from the current amount of 11,2 $1,100 to $3,700 and releases Le against 2260 SW
Avenue upon payment so this is a kind of a cut and dry staff recommends uh approval of resolution number 25-8 okay any questions for Mr Martin from the commission no do we have any cards Tom not on this item anyone in the audience wishing to speak on resolution
number 25-18 okay seeing none we will close the public hearing component Mr Mayor Mr Mayor I move approval of resolution 25-18 second mayor roll call please Mr as body yes
I Mr alland hi vice mayor Ashcraft hi mayor Hawkins hi we reunite at the end thank you Jesus so is the will of the commission then to um get any reports from Tom
before and just close up the the the meeting tonight Mary Mary um could we uh for uh development services benefit um postpone ordinance number
25-2 to the date certain of March 20th so they don't have to re advertise that was already tabled that LPA never mind so that it isn't being considered I I I no judgment I
understand you did you did would it be too much uh Commissioners if we jump to any future agenda item that we might want to get now so that we don't burn two weeks in there um I would and I could just tell you
what I'm going to say in about one sentence I'd like us to put on here um uh on the uh chickens that we're all hearing about um and I'm going to recommend something along the ways of seven chickens or less for one acre or less
and then double that if you have more than one acre without any without any fee and your request is to put it as a future agenda item yeah I think we have to Tom told me in the email that I should that I think it's are you saying time that's the procedure right is what
I understood to get it on there the technically uh commissioner can send me a request which you did uh that would put it on um as a discussion item on March 20th but I think as practice uh
the Commissioners have brought those future agenda items up here just to get the consensus of the commission as to whether they'd like to have it on the agenda I think we all got emails everybody gets them right so um okay all right okay and if you guys have any
future agenda item you don't want to wait to weeks for then okay all right um Mike anything I just want to thank our entire city staff for a tremendous George Fest everything was was outstanding our crowds were good
the weather was okay um but uh everybody worked hard and I'm very proud of the city of Eustace one other thing I would like to ask staff to start looking at is our July 3rd uh commission meeting I have
heard several commissioners talked about traveling during the 4th of July holiday um so I would like to see if we need to re either reedu that meeting or totally cancel that meeting on July 3D okay okay
all right George um I'd like to uh have a workshop to further discuss looking forward uh and what we're looking for and what we like and to share that with everybody with Emily present as she had
asked for that on the record um sometime uh as soon as possible and I already talked about the chickens uh on there and uh I did I did get confronted by U several people in the downtown I did a walk through
downtown and there was some concern about uh I was told and I don't know this that that um we're eating up some of the parking uh in front of on M Magnolia um from the city and uh see if we can
either park in the parking garage if we don't if we can't do that uh can we ask George Warren if while he's building his vacant we uh City staff can park there for now uh I don't know what he would say it wasn't a time to ask but uh try
to keep that we have a big business opening up and we have some booming stuff going on um that's it okay right Gary well I just want to Echo What U Michael said about George Fest it was another successful
event it was it's a lot of work and and he's right we should be thanking staff for everything for everything they did um it's our biggest event every year and I always look forward to it and then the other thing for me is just um shout out to the boys basketball team they uh they
played their hard child down in Lakeland um fortunately didn't come home with the win but um it was nice seeing them do as well as they have and all of our sports teams have done well girl softball is uh
state champions girls basketball was at regionals and now the boys were at state so I think we have a lot to be proud of from our high school so and that's all for me I'd like to say too I was just proud of this commission Tom Sam we all
attended that game um and it was nice to be able to travel Chief Capri to be able to travel as a group down there and show support to our high schools so thank everybody that took the time out of your personal schedule cuz I know that next morning we had an early morning with that chamber breakfast and
congratulations to all those that won Community Service Awards as well sorry mayor I did it to you enough so that's Tom was I was I supposed to say about the airplane thing or that's already on the agenda through my request or do I
have to um share that with the commission um it came up at the last commission meeting right and you put it on the agenda so it's there or do we need do I need to explain do I need to say anything do I need to request anything I we will have a discussion item on the
20th for that and at that point should I schedule the um people to come forward to talk about you so should we schedule that as a presentation then if we have folks that are going to present yeah I think so I think we need to hear about it and see what we think we can do it under presentations and then uh
commission can discuss it as part of that presentation so I can give them a date of March 20th as we talked before yeah that's shaping up to be a pretty packed meeting now especially if we're moving the last two items from tonight that we're discuss maybe I could push them back maybe I can push him back see
one after that okay so March first meeting in April yes so April 3rd which we're talking about cancelling no that's July so April 3rdd okay so I'm going to ask them to be prepared to present on April 3rd sure okay Tom Tom yeah just uh quickly um we
have uh worked to schedule a tour of reworld um I know not everyone is going but we'll get more information out to those who are going that's uh Friday March 21st and then um we I wanted to uh I
think I let you all know via email that um the uh fire department's a unit uh did uh ratify uh the city's offer last night and so we are finalizing um the uh contract and then
that will probably come before City Commission on March 20th and I want to thank everybody involved uh so thank you what happens in my procedure when I asked for do we do want I ask for a workshop do we talk about that or I just say it and what
happens or is that a question for you Sasha it's um yeah I think we didn't do should we be doing that now so otherwise we wait two more weeks to set a date I don't I don't this is my first time I've asking for that
for so a workshop to discuss the ongoing master plan Ian we have to get Emily's schedule when we're all here together and so maybe we set it date and
if Emily says no I guess we'll yeah I mean I've talked to Emily a little bit about her intentions in asking for the workshop I don't know if we want to wait for Emily to express those intentions but she wants one right is that what you're saying she wants a workshop to
discuss implementation of the master plan okay we can discuss everything I think there about the the downtown master plan so I'm on the same page we need to talk today was I
so my my intent was after the uh CRA uh recommended moving forward my intent was to have it on the March 20th agenda for adoption um to be incorporated into the
cra's Redevelopment plan um so if we do it we need to do it before then I don't I'm so the a workshop the I guess the question is is
the workshop to discuss the whether or not to adopt the master plan or is the workshop to discuss implementation of the master plan because they we can move forward with
adoption and then set up a workshop to discuss implement I was looking for a workshop just to have us all share what's on our and have discussion because we can't talk outside of that so I think we need to have a lot more communication till we get this
thing going in a Direction so I would like to talk uh with all of you and I would like to hear what you have to say and I'd like us to engage in good good progress and and unite and go forward Tom can you come come up with a
date and let us know uh sure okay thanks um Madame attorney nothing from me now okay um now I I I want to Echo what uh you know Gary said it was great
for uh for all of us to to go down to to the the basketball game to support it was good for the community to see that we do live outside of this building so thank you all for for doing that um
kind of along the same line as as George um I I'd like to see us become a little bit more focused and determined on what we're doing downtown and getting it going um you I I know that there's that
you know we we you know we can take our time uh for those of us that have been up here for the last four years that's all we've been doing is taking our time um and we'd like to to get it moving so I I'd like to i' Echo I think a workshop
would be great but I think we need to sit down and narrow in on what we we want and get it done um you know uh I think everyone has a a valuable opinion U but everyone
needs to respect what everyone else has to say um so it's good to go and have this conversation but it's also just as good to listen to what the other one has to say uh and we're not all going to agree
as was evidenced tonight um for those of you that are here and that listened welcome to politics um we fight for what we want to fight for um we dis agree a lot uh but we all
do it because we want to see our city uh become what it can become AB again and we're not always going to agree um we'll go out of here some of us will trip the other going down the steps and some of us are hug each each other but we all
want to make sure that the city of usus comes out on top so uh thank you for spending time with us as you can tell from my voice it's time for me to go to bed um uh it is now
8:42 meeting is adjourned