Time is 5:30 p.m. Uh Christine, do we have a quorum and proper notice been given? >> Yes, Chairman Hopkins. >> Thank you. Uh we have approval of minutes for the July 17th, 2025 meeting. >> Move approval. >> Second. >> Okay. Roll call, please.
>> Mr. Holland, >> I. >> Miss Lee, >> I. >> Mr. Osbody, >> I. >> Vice Chair Ashcraft, >> I. >> Chairman Hawkins, >> I. >> Okay, we have consideration discussion. Uh Sasha, who's it?
>> Yep. >> Oh, Jeff. >> Okay. Ordinance 2.1. >> Yep. We have uh ordinance 2.1 for this presentation. I've actually combined it kind of to shorten it for you a little bit. >> Um so we've put item 2.1 2.2 into the same presentation as their adjacent
properties. So, we have before you tonight uh 2025 C06 and 2025 C07 um for assigning future land use to annexing properties um under the property owners T and SFL Partners and
WD of America. Um it's two parcels, one is 10 acres in size that is covered under uh the 2025 C06. Um, also referred to as some of the images in this presentation is 2025A for
the annexation notice. Um, that's under ordinance 2521 and 25 ordinance 2524 is for the 2.8 acre 2.8 acre parcel uh under the 2025 C plus07 and the 2025 AO7. Um, both of these are currently
urban low in Lake County. um requesting to go to general commercial and uh for the future land use. Uh general location for the area intersection of County Route 44 and County Route 44A
uh just above um the say it right. The iceberg range subdivision uh little bit and a little bit closer. You can see it's right at the intersection the corner where it's rounded off. There's actually storm water pond that sits there. I believe
that's a county storm water pond. It's rather large. I know I couldn't make the turn. I actually had to get back out onto the road and come up to post the signs. Um aerial for the area. Um more of a general overall. Zooming in. As you can see, um in
between the oaks, there are some planted pines in there. Um as well as some planted pines on the parcel on the 2.8 an 80acre parcel where the house sits. Uh Lake County urban low um surrounded by general commercial to
the west and MCR to the west, suburban residential to the south. Our request is to go to general commercial uh which would basically square off that entire south corner of the intersection as commercial.
a little bit more overview for the rest of the area and we can skip that one because it doesn't pertain particularly to this group. Um, and this capacity generalized utilities are on county route 44A as
well as on 44. Um, potential for connection from the sewer. Obviously, there are lines to the north. um as well as lines and I'm going to say most likely utility easements coming up from the subdivision to the south that may be able to make tight. >> Okay. >> Uh general flood zone. It is not
impacted nor is it impacted by well the property does lie within the Wakiva basin. It is just kind of south and east of that of where that line runs. Uh generalized recharge is in the 8 to 12 inches per year.
and soil suitability basically based on the U US USGS layer it comes out as suitable for build. Um this request has been reviewed based on the Florida statutes our own our comprehensive plan and our own land development regulations pertaining to
amending future land use. Um again general uh facilities capacity are available to serve the development. Uh there is no wetland present. There are no hundredyear there is no 100red-year flood present. Um it is within the wava study area. Um and it's
about the medium recharge in the 8 to 12 ines per year. Um water and sewer is availability and generally the general the general commercial would fit with the other land uses that are assigned to
that south side of the intersection. Uh advertisements were made in the daily commercial on July 28th, August 4th. Uh property was posted on July 28th and the notices were sent out on July 25th
pending the outcome of city commission meeting. We will advertise this again for adoption. So we'll meet the requirements. >> Any response? >> Uh nothing came back on this one in writing or as far as I received in phone calls. >> Okay. >> Um staff presents for your consideration
the proposed future land use uh assignment um for ordinance for TNSFL partners as well as WD of America properties under ordinances 2020 or 20 2520 2521
2522 um and uh ordinance numbers basically it's 2524 is what applies to the future land use map and 2521 applies to the land use The current county density for that is four to one, right?
>> On the under the urban low, correct? >> It go from four to one to commercial general commercial. >> Correct. >> I'd also like to point out I think it's important to note that uh Travis Sachuk, who is the owner and applicant, is the o
is the neighbor directly to the east of these properties. So Mr. saw Chuck who is the applicant lives directly to the east so he is one of the neighbors >> is he here >> yes >> is that that's correct Travis right okay
>> Mr. Chair, I move that we uh move 2.1 to the city commission for further consideration. >> Second. >> Second. >> Actually, can we can we have just a little bit of further discussion on that? >> And I do have a card as well on this. >> Okay. >> Oh, okay. Thanks.
>> It all up. >> So, we have neighbor we have neighborhoods to the north and the south sandwiched right in >> in between this. >> So, general commercial, what what kind of what kind of what's what kind of development are we thinking general commercial? Do you want to ask that
>> if if you don't mind? >> Sure. >> Yes, please. >> You get a name and you know uses resident. >> I'm a US res. My name is Travis Sachuk and I live directly next door the entire length of that property. >> And uh the other gentleman that is the
10 acres one sitting beside me. >> We work together. Um when we met with uh Tom and Mike, we talked about the uh low density plaza, couple of out parcels, and something that would accommodate the corner bank gas station, something
that's relevant to our needs over there. and the fact that we have, you know, how many hundreds of homes coming up and down from Thrill Hill Road down. We think that that plaza is very necessary, a service plaza, something that is uh not going to fail during different
recessions and different uh economic times. We're very cognizant of that. That's my background. I've done 30 years of this. Um so, we're going to be very careful and uh we want to build it that's suitable, something that has on an old town fair. Um we talked about the
2.8 8 acres being a business park, something that is, you know, one or two occupants and that's it. Um, something very low-key, something that's not going to add density or problems to that that corner. It's already a lit a lit corner.
Um, I've talked to the county about that pond and it is too large. whoever said that. Uh, and it will accommodate a delaw lane and a turn lane and they're more than willing to put uh infiltrator pipes uh into the pond and cover the pond up. So, we can use that in any way
we need. They were very accommodating and uh that conversation was with Leslie Campion on that matter. So, not that it's, you know, at least I had a conversation about it. Well, being being that neighborhoods are so close, you know, um you know, we're
always talking about being good neighbors and >> right, >> we like, you know, there there's going to be homes really close to that. So, hopefully we can do something about the buffers to uh >> make it make it as peaceful and non non-lit as as possible for them. >> Right. And I'm the neighbor. I'm the biggest neighbor.
>> Well, yeah, but you're >> the houses across the back. >> Yeah. >> Uh joins his 10 acres and my 2.8 acres, right? And there's a wildlife uh a wild planting if you will >> and and I've talked to those neighbors. Um the previous owner of the 10 acres
and the 2.8 acres was cognizant of that. They've left a buffer of different types of plant life trees and there's a sixoot fence there now. Um we're not opposed to putting an 8ft fence. We're not opposed to putting uh particular types of bushes in multiple layers uh at that time. Uh
that would cause a sound buffer. Um, if anything we do, it'll be make it better than what they're tolerating. >> The light though, if you're talking about a gas station there, you know, >> people are going to be right adjacent to that. You know, that's going to make a lot of >> I don't care if it's a gas station. I'm just saying. >> Well, you suggested it.
>> Yeah, I did. I'm saying what would be the most right thing to do there. If you speak to Mr. Keading, he'd like to have two gas stations in there. Three. And and I'm thinking if I can beat him to the punch and I work with you and we do what what collectively we want to do together, >> I if you want a bank, if you want
something else, I'm moldable. I'm I'm not stuck on any one thing other than to do something that's going to last and and look nice. I am the neighbor. >> But sorry, go ahead, George. >> I was just going to say, but once we approve this, you can't control gas station bank, whatever. >> No, no, I'm not suggesting that. I'm
just saying >> unless you do a deed restriction to the >> No, no, I mean you're not talking anything general commercial that would involve any kind of construction or anything like that for you. >> That's kind of what >> construction. >> What do you mean by construction? >> Uh like like building, you know, you're
putting up a warehouse and you're building things. >> Well, a plaza is construction. >> I I don't think I understand quite what you mean by that. I mean, we're going to if we're going to build a plaza, we're going to have some out parcels. We're going to do some design work. We're going to work with you. Well, General Commercial has a has a >> it's a pretty wide selection, >> right? So,
>> when I came here and I did the application with Tom and Mike, I specifically gave them a facade uh rendering and said that I'd like to have an L-shaped plaza. Okay. >> Uh and then I'd like to have a couple of out parcels. And it was undetermined at that time what we really want and feel is most right for the corner.
>> That's great that you did that. Do we have that? I'm sorry. >> It was It just looked like a town center. >> We're not at that point for that. >> Yeah. And so, and I came here with no specific design, no specific uh uh client that's going to work with me to do or any national tenants. I do
represent eight national tenants and I think I can put some responsible people there, make it look good, a little better for all of us. The 2.8 acres, just a business park, just a couple of buildings to keep inventory control systems in and uh very lowkey. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Business park is like warehousing, commercial space. It's not storage and it's not a warehouse per se, but it's a looks like a warehouse, but basically it's just inventory control. That's what I'd like to do with it. There's a building there. Um, it's uh 2400 square
feet now. It's it's doesn't have electric or bathrooms or anything. And uh but it's it's very new looking and it would be used to store inventory and come and go, but not warehousing as such. Would fall under that umbrella. I'm not looking for that. and your
business park has limitations. >> Thanks. >> Okay, full disclosure before we vote. Uh I met with Mr. Salchuk a while ago, so I just wanted everyone to know that. >> Um okay, it's been >> I think
>> Oh, I'm sorry, Cindy. >> Yeah, I've got a card from Cindy Newton. Do you mind? Good evening, Cindy Newton and I live in the area. Excuse me. Uh what I want to point out
uh whether you annex or not when it gets to the development stage. I think this is very important. If you look at this map down here, this little area of blue, uh you can follow the line up through
here and down this way. That is where Lake Joanna drains into Lake Satara. Anytime we draw down Blue Lake, that's the same path that the water takes. As you can see, it goes through the Spring
Ridge development where I've got the little black circle here. There's an issue with at least one of the houses there is having some structural issues. There is a drainage
easement that goes between those two retention ponds on either side of the house. So, they're having some drainage issues. I've I'm hearing of some other structural issues, but I don't know where those homes are. So, I just want
to make sure that when this is developed up here in this corner that you're not adding any water down to this subdivision to make their life worse. um you could really have some some
issues like currently my house we're redoing our entire drainage system in my yard because of the development that's going on uh there on Bates and Estie.
We're getting so much more water flow coming down through our property. I want to make sure that doesn't happen to them. So, thank you for your time. >> Thanks. >> That would be stuff that would be dealt with during the design.
>> Is that right, Tom? >> Yeah, that that would be something that would be worked through at the time of uh site plan submitting. >> Uh Jeff, can we make sure that >> will you remember that when that comes through?
>> Of course. that that would have to go through all water management district permitting and engineering would take be taking >> okay >> the plans as they come through >> and just bring it back to our attention just in case we forget so we know that it's been addressed. >> Thanks.
>> And I'm sure Cindy will too. >> Okay. Uh >> Tom, any more cards? >> Uh that's it as far as cards. >> Okay. Is there anyone else who would like to speak? Okay. Uh
I um are you um Donald Doyle? I have you speaking at city commission. Do you want to speak at land planning agencies? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Good evening. My name is Donald Doyle. I do not live in Eustace, but I live
immediately across the north of this property across county 44A. I believe this approval of this proposal would significantly affect the character, quality of life, and possibly the property values of the nearby properties. At the present time, there
are houses to the north, houses to the east, and houses to the south. The north house, there are five houses along 44A, uh four of which are within 200 feet of this property. To the south there are eight houses very close to the subject property. Five of them are within 40 ft
of this property. To the east are two houses, one about 240 ft away, one about 120 ft away. Since the proposed ordinances would change the future land use of the current property to general commercial within the city of Eustace, the
following would be some of the permitted uses on this property. amphitheater, shooting range indoor dry cleaning laundry, convenience store with gas station, fast loop oil change, and commercial parking. The applicant application did not state the intended
use beyond future commercial development. So, we do not know what they might put there. I believe that none of these uses should be allowed on this close to our neighbors. Even though the staff report stated it's the proposed land use designation is consistent with the surrounding and
adjacent land uses, I believe it would be more consistent to leave the subject property as it is. Also, the subject property is part of a plan unit development in Lake County. I do not see this mentioned in any of your documentation. The ordinance is Lake
County Ordinance number 2020-71 effective November 10th, 2020 titled Lake Satara PUD amendment. This PUD lists four specific land uses allowed on this property. I believe any other uses would not be allowed at the present
time. A brief description of those land uses in the PUD are residential, agricultural, and non-intensive agricultural, bed and breakfast home, and passive recreation. The PUD includes
additional conditions on these uses. One more thing, there are errors in the proposed ordinances. The owner's names in the proposed ordinances are reversed. TMS Florida Property Inc. purchased the 2.8 acre property. WD of America purchased the
10acre property. The names are also reversed in your reports and your drafts. I ask you to help preserve the character, quality of life, and property values of the area by denying this proposed ordinance. We're not submitting it to the commission. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Okay, Jeff. De, can you help me understand that? >> I'm not sure on the reverse names because I >> Well, not that far. >> Pulled them off the uh the deeds. So, >> more of the other stuff he was talking about. I >> Okay. The PUD is actually a zoning in
the county. >> That is, hey, I am a person who wants to do something. I'm going to put together a very specific of what I want to do and I'm going to bring it to the county. If they approve it, then that's what I do. So, it's not that the county thought it through and said, "No, you can only do this." um or it may be based on
negotiation, you know, somewhere along the line. But being annexed, we do not have zoning. PUD in Lake County is a zoning, not a land use. Um therefore, coming into the city, we assign a land use. We assign a design district.
And generally, it is market that determines what would be appropriate to go on to a visa property. In other words, somebody isn't going to put something that is not going to hold a tenant in it is kind of the way looking at it. So, as far as for compatibility of land use, from a
planning standpoint, we look at it as what is out there, what is consistent and compatible based on the current adjacency and what makes sense. Does it fit? Does the piece fit the puzzle? >> Okay.
>> Is it possible for me to speak to that? >> Yes, we should. >> Any other questions? Did you >> I um I have another card uh that was uh had signed up to speak at the commission meeting on the same items and so um
>> is Trina >> would you like to speak now or wait till the commission? Okay. Thank you. >> And Mr. Suk wanter want safe then we'll have you come back. >> Hello my name is Trina Marquez. I live directly behind where this
proposed development is >> in the subdivision there. >> Yes. >> Clear Lake directly across the street. My backyard faces this development. I moved here from Miami 27 years ago. I love this area. Love it. Want to see it
kept the same way. I don't want to see bright lights coming into my backyard. I don't want to see more traffic coming. I like my area the way it is. I always believe they would be building houses, not gas stations or whatever they're going to do. I hope you guys keep my
home the way it is. I live directly across the street. I've already heard them tearing down trees already and I'm thinking, I thought we were having a hearing. Why are they already tearing things down? Nothing's been approved. Correct. Yeah. So, I don't know why they're
already clearing stuff directly behind my house, you know. So, I ask you guys, keep my neighborhood the way it is. If you want to build houses, fine. Don't bring gas stations and L-shaped um
whatever they're called. Um I forgot what he said it was. Whatever building. Keep it the way it is. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I'd like to know more about that difference in the names on the parcels.
Okay. Uh, is there anyone else before? >> There's another two more. >> Okay. Come on. >> Yeah, please. >> And state your name. >> Ma'am, where uh where where you live across the street? Is that the city of
>> Estas? >> That's county. >> Yes. Good evening everybody. My name is Paul Perkins. Um I'm a managing director of uh Perkins Family Partners which actually owns the property directly across the street from this development.
I I hadn't planned to speak but um I first of all I I commend all of you and thank all of you for for serving the city. I I think you guys are doing a great job. Um I would like to just say that I am in support I am in favor of of
this. I think uh as Eustace develops that it's important that we we we do build an infrastructure and in a community where there is commercial activity and and this corridor is obviously being is growing. You have a
number of residential developments along this corridor. Um and there's an increased need for for services and the like. You know, I live over by Lake Dhuzi and I'm not in the city of Eustace, but I own the property within
the city of Eustace that is zoned mixed commercial residential directly across the street. I think this would boost values in the area. I think would be beneficial for homeowners and I know people are afraid of development and I I'm as much of an animal lover and as as everybody and I would love to see you
know I hate to see nature being taken away but um I I think this particular corridor it makes sense to have some some general commercial development and I know it would be responsible and the market's going to dictate what the use of it and um it's going to be the
highest and best use and so if it's a if it's a convenience store or a gas station or a or or a a structure with multiple commercial enterprises in there that that that bring people into the area. It's going to drive up property values, I believe. Um so, thank you for
listening and appreciate your time. >> Mr. Perkins, you said you you directly across the street directly across 44. >> I do not live I I own a property directly across the street. I have a tenant there and and in fact I was speaking with him a couple days ago and
he says, "Oh, this I mentioned that this hearing and he says, "Oh, I'd love to see something happen here. It would be much more convenient for me um to to to have some something there." So, >> I just wanted to clarify your question.
Your property is it to the east across >> to the west? to the west. >> I am to the north. >> Directly across directly across north on the small parcel 87 acres. >> Okay. I was gonna say those are residentials according to to her. >> Forgive me. What? >> I thought they were residentials
according to somebody speaking. >> They're they're right to east of me is residential, but that's not county. That's not city. That's that's county. >> Uh I am in the my property is I think the last stop within the city >> to the to the east.
>> Okay. I'm not correct if I'm not mistaken. >> And there's there's a home there, but isn't there also a business operation on site? >> It kind of it's it's at the dead end basically uh at the traffic light, >> right? >> So, if you go through the traffic light, you are accessing this property
>> and several cars have >> Yeah. >> to spray my sheds and such. But yes, that's correct. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. >> Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Um, is the stuff to the um to the other side is that the Keading beginning of the
Keading property >> to the west is Keading. >> What? Gatch is that Gat >> where Gatch road is? >> Yeah. Okay, >> that's it. The Keings starts there. >> It's across the street. >> Mr. Kings across >> Yeah, Mr. Mr.
>> Mr. Keing owns to the west >> of the subject property. >> Okay. Is there anyone else that would like to address this? Okay. U Mr. Sachup, please. >> So, I just wanted to answer a couple
questions um or statements that were made. One, the current property is uh forestry agricultural and under that zoning, you can operate farming, uh planting, you can remove trees, plant trees, you can do what you want. Um,
since I bought the property and I'm managing the 10 acres, I'm getting rid of the diseased pine trees that have a beetle that are very dangerous to a lot of people. I took down 41 trees uh that were infected and or dead and we're doing better property management. Uh,
the lady that spoke that said she lives right back uh Clear Lake, every single one of those houses dumps their dead trees and garbage on our land. We don't ever say anything. We're really good stewards of the land. We're going to be good stewards of this property and its development, and we're going to
collectively work with you to put something there that we're all proud of. I'm not going anywhere. I live right beside it. Uh, and so does this gentleman. So, you couldn't ask for better people to control a commercial environment than us. As to the PUD, Leslie Campion and her husband Jackel
owned from Lake Storur all the way up to that lighted intersection. I bought my home which is on five acres from them and I bought the 2 point acres 2.8 acres from them and the 10 acres from them. They had a historical I'll say historical by time and age a PUD that
was for a subdivision that came around all the way from Lake Stor up behind and through the five acres that I bought as a home site and took into this. It is redundant now. It's not active. It won't be. It can't because there's too many different owners now. Uh, so I just
wanted to speak to that. It might even be in record now of that being in that case. Um, I'm able to answer any other questions if you want. >> Yeah, Mr. Suk, uh, if this is forwarded to the city commission, uh, and you get
to a point to where there's something that you'd like to do, one of the things that that this commission uh, would like to see is a meeting with the neighbors. uh not for them to tell you what to do with your property, but at least to give
them some insight into >> I'd beg. >> Yeah. >> You know, I live there. Um I want good neighbors, you know. Um if there's a a particular look, a facade, a style that is in keeping with the country urban look, I want that, too. >> I'm not somebody from Orlando or
Jacksonville or somewhere and don't care what it looks like. I care what it looks like. I'm going to live there. I'm going to be very cognizant of the impact buffer for noise and light. So, we're going to we're going to spend a little bit of special time in that area. Most definitely. And I'm more than willing to
meet with uh people that are reasonable and uh will work with us, too. >> I have two questions. >> Sure. >> Um one, I know I had a diseased tree, but I had to go through the city coming out. Has anyone confirmed it or allow or
given you permission to remove the trees or did you just do this? >> Well, under the farm uh agricultural and forestry, we don't need a permit to add or take down the slag pines that were planted. And uh the unfortunate thing is that when they were planted, they were
they were they did so for the tax um benefit. Uh I will say that the stewardship wasn't the greatest. So, we have an overgrowth of things that are detrimental to the pine trees. We've been cleaning that up and mowing and um trying to take down trees that have
fallen in the hurricane that are still there. >> Uh and the beetle has been u an ongoing problem in Lake County. It mostly for agricultural purposes of the pines, but uh the ones that we took down were definitively dead and we don't need a um you know, tree specialist to come out
and and tell us the dead tree is dead. No disrespect. Uh but no, we don't need a permit to to take them down. They're 4 in and smaller. They're not a heritage tree of any kind. They're they're >> And then the second thing, what is the mix up with the names >> that's on on you guys? Um I made it I
brought that to the attention. Uh I called in as soon as I got the letter and I said they've been reversed and um I was told that the uh deputy in charge of doing that would uh correct that. It was an oversight. I I tried to let you know before in enough time before the meeting, but uh we know each other. We
were okay with that. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anything else? >> Okay. Just say one more thing. >> No. >> No. No. If you want to say something, you can say it at the next meeting if
you if you'd like. Uh because now >> No, we don't vote until the next meeting. This is to move it to the next meeting. >> Okay. Um >> we have a first and a second. >> Okay. At first I forgot about that. A first and a second. Uh roll call,
please. >> So just to revisit this, the first was Holland and the second was Lee. >> George. >> George. >> George. >> George. Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Mr. Holland. >> Hi. >> Miss Lee. >> Hi. >> Mr. Obott.
>> Hi. Vice Chair Ashcraft. >> Hi, >> Chairman Hawkins. >> Hi. >> Okay. >> All right. Okay. That is it. Uh the time is 6:03. We are adjourned until
>> Do we have another second item? >> No. Did you combine them? >> Didn't you combine them? >> Hold on both. >> Did you combine them? >> Yes. combined, >> but the vote was on the first motion, >> correct?
>> On the first ordinance. >> Okay. So, we needed one four. Yes. Okay. All right. >> Can I get a uh >> I move to move 2.2 to the city commission for consideration. Second it. >> Okay. Second. >> Who's the second? >> Emily.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Holland. >> Hi. >> Miss Lee. >> Hi. >> Mr. Ozbody. >> No. Vice Chair Ashcraft. >> Hi, >> Chairman Hawkins. >> Hi. >> Okay.
>> 604. We're journ uh back at 6:10 for city commission meeting.