the day is april 3rd 2005 the time is 5:30 2005 i mean 2025 going back 2025 uh it's the meeting of the uh local planning
agency uh madame do we have a uh quorum proper notice hopkins thank you commission proper notice thank you okay uh before we have the approval of minutes for the march 20th 2025 meeting
move for approval second roll call yes please mr holland i mr asody i vice chair ashcraft i miss lee i chairman hawkins i okay mike
yes sir for the record mike lane development services director uh tonight we are discussing additional items to the table of uses and uh i do just kind of want also to share that we have some handouts that will go along with this if
it if uh the community meetings and the the table uses uh if they are approved tonight we will basically have them displayed at our at our front counter so tonight you're ordinance 251 and uh basically the the first item
is for community meetings as we discussed in the february 20th hearing uh you know basically this is our attempt uh to require pre uh i guess pre submission to the department for
projects uh that uh are related to these five items here basically you know for the uh the residential subdivisions with not more or with more than than 10 lots we're looking at the mixed use and multifamily projects that are basically
greater than five units an acre uh commercial projects that have buildings that are over 50 50,000 square feet uh any land unit development and uh any future land use
district that changes from properties that are over four acres and so again these will basically be those projects that we expect uh developers to to before they submit to us those projects they will have those community meetings
and and the material that that we will provide them will show them how we expect them to uh to communicate and and deal with those community meetings the as we discussed previously um the table of uses we we came forward
with a recommendation to the self storage facilities basically to be reduced in the commercial areas down to basically a conditional use in the industrial area and of course that that's when we started talking about the
massage establishments the tattoo establishments and the retail smoke shops and so what we've provided uh working with the city attorney sasha we do have before you those particular sections we have
definitions operational requirements and basically the conditional uses that are required for uh each of those establishments before you tonight so um i i can walk through the chart if you'd like we could dive deeper into the
the actual uses if you'd like and just if i could add mike um we also have uh we also want to have a discussion with you about uh marijuana dispensaries and i think uh you're not seeing this in here because sasha has some information prepared for you the
next one yeah well we're discussing that afterwards gotcha okay i apologize for jumping in i would just point out that we also advertised in the the appropriate outlets so these these meetings have
been advertised okay all right okay does anyone did anyone wanted to to del deeper into it it it looks a lot better than the first time we looked at it and i'm good with the way it looks are we voting on this today what we
would be doing at this point would be transmitting it to the commission for consideration it is uh then on the commission agenda for tonight for first reading any questions okay mr chair i move that ordinance
number 25-01 be moved to the city commission for consideration do we have anyone in the audience sorry before all right go ahead uh uh anyone from the audience okay hearing none motion stance is that second okay it's
been motioned and properly second madame clerk mr holland i mr ashody i vice chair ashcraft i miss lee hi chairman hawkins i okay mike could you put the slide back
on okay thank you all right so one of the items that came up last time that's funny um was uh medical marijuana dispensaries and in in looking at the potential regulation for it we found
that currently florida statute um does provide for two options um when looking to regulate by ordinance for a municipality and that is either to ban any future medical marijuana treatment center dispensing facilities from being
within city boundaries or if we are to regulate them then we are the city would be preempted so that the facilities are allowed to operate the same way that pharmacies are with the exception that they cannot be located within 500 ft from any schools so that would be the
only caveat so we pulled it from the uh original um publication because we wanted to get input from from this board as to whether the intent is to ban any future uses of for this
particular um type of business or if say didn't want to do anything with uh in the code or if we wanted to look at regulating them as we do pharmacies pharmacies do have as you'll know in the
table of uses certain areas where they're permitted by right and others are conditional so we would have to track that or we would have to alter uses for uh formsies going forward so that they would conform with what whatever we the city chooses to do with
um the dispensaries if we were to ban we would grandfather in what we have yes so it would be any future any existing um businesses they would remain and i think we have three within city limits at this
point so we just need um as to this item we just wanted direction as to what um the board would like to see so that we can prepare an ordinance accordingly well my my thought on on that just to throw out some ideas
is we not too long we're the first city i think to to approve it um and we heard from some good doctors about it i don't i don't think i would be a fan of eliminating it completely i think it's better than opioids and other addictions that people have if if
properly um looked at i think the state looks at it as a pharmacy and that was kind of what we did when we the city commission did at its time i would like this is just my personal i would like
to limit it outside of the central business district i i wouldn't want it to be in a central business district other than that my personal thought is maybe limit the number of them if we did anything or or just leave it alone um well any any of those changes would
would be applicable toarmacies as well because that's what the statute requires so we would we would make bay pharmacy lake pharmacy legally non-conforming if we removed pharmacy as a permitted use in the central business district
does george know about that like to hear from him so so what you're saying is that if we choose to ban it then we are banning pharmacies no it would just apply to medical marijuana dispensaries i guess so state law says you can ban
them or you can not ban them but if you don't ban them you have to treat them likeies i see okay well i guess my thought on it is that i remember when the first one came we said there would not be another one and it was going and the next thing you know we're getting an
invitation to go to one that was on b on um over by publix and now there are three i think that's enough for one city and i would like to see it banned um before when you drive down 441 like coming through the villages all you see are those popping up all over the place
and i i think the three we have is sufficient and that's just my thoughts i have to agree with uh with emily i think three for a city our size is enough uh now if
if one of those was to go out of business would that mean that it wouldn't be replaced it would not be replaced as long as the ordinance is still valid of course this is an area of law that seems to be fluid based on
what's going on um socially so we may need to look at this in in a few years uh or the sentiment might change as far as what the the city commissioner wants to do but as long as it's in place then they cannot just
replace that business well um go ahead well let's let's let's talk about a scenario and see if this might help us if if marijuana would happen to become legal um for personal use in certain
amounts would thesearmacies or dispensaries be dispensing that that kind of that kind of marijuana recreational you mean yes this is for medical only i know but i'm just like i said i'm thinking of the future because it was on it was on the
ballot this this year and right um would i mean does anyone know if they would be dispensing those to me yeah the state would determine that right right so we would have to wait till um that occurs and then the state legislature would address that and and provide us with
guidance as to how we would regulate it no i was always on the opposing side to incoming um but i do know that there are people that have been you know their benefits to to some people but i think again for
a city our size uh we don't want to look like lady lake in the villages uh and we're trying to we spend a lot of time talking about who we are and and what we want to be and what we want to be known for and if we don't put some
kind of restrictions on it we can have as many as we want coming down to uh uh our downtown area so and so far we have some they're nice and clean and we don't hear much from them when you get just an abundance of things
begin to happen um where where are they allowed now mike what what districts are they allowed in now we normally see them in the general commercial categories right okay but that that could be right outside of the central business district right so um looking at the table of uses it's
permitted in general commercial conditional use in general industrial does this sound right mike pharmacy i'm reading pharmacies um permitted in central business conditional in residential
office transitional and then permitted in mcr and mci that's what where pharmacies are allowed so the only they would be transition they would be regulated as pharmacies other than the 500 foot buffer from a
school um so so so you you're saying they're they're allowed in mcr mixed residential commercial uh according to the table of uses they are permitted we i think we have enough then
i really do if they're allowed on all those all those yeah we've got plenty do we uh do we just stop them or do we cap them at three and let them be where they be at three or do we come back with
each one or we just have no more or we have no more no more than it's becoming such a acceptable part of sasha my impression is you can't you can't limit the number
what you can do is you can ban them or you can lift the ban yes i'm gonna need you to say my name if you're asking me the question because it could be discussion so i don't want to inter interfere with the discussion discussion did you say her name no i think i said
sasha you did so yes we cannot it would anything we do would apply toarmacies as well we would have to change our ordinance um provide an ordinance that regulates botharmacies and um the dispensaries andarmacies and
dispens them than the three that are current sasha would that be no moreies either no the pharmacies uh would not be impacted by by that change this only applies to medical marijuana dispensaries
and just so that you know just recently well most recently i think um within the last couple years the crystal river decided to do the same thing because they felt they had enough dispensaries within their city limits and they enacted an ordinance banning
any future ones oh they did yes okay they also had three coincidentally okay so we just need direction as to okay well i'm i'm i i'm comfortable with this
saying ban but that's from this seat i don't think we need anymore uh what did you say or did you say i said abandon them okay make a motion or are we doing that no it's just discuss just
discuss we have not prepared an ordinance for consideration tonight so we would need to bring this back yeah at a future date and just kind of give you some direction right so we can know if to prepare the ordinance and if so what what type of
ordinance we would be preparing i kind of feel odd i worked to uh to get some now work to get it out so it's a little it's a little odd uh i think they're they're a good resource uh for alternate for for um opioids i think
what emily said of stopping them at three i like that too um i don't know about banning them i i would probably tend to be in the middle of limiting them to three but we can't do that according to tom i guess so and again
the three that are there remain they're not going to be impacted by any future action and also they'll be happy with this the and also the the public will have an opportunity to come before you and talk
about this when we do have the ordinance prepared and published the public so if there's um input from the public that might change the thoughts of of of this board or the commission then that's something to consider as
well okay gary oh george did you i'm a little uh we could also do nothing yeah i'm a little up in the air but i i i'd like emily's lock them in at three so i guess we'll just see what happens
right what you guys what can you not ban any future banan apply for an exception and try to get it or no no they would not be permitted again yes i don't think there's any is there any other municipality in lake county that's
done that that you're aware of sasha [Music] i not in lake county i know winter garden has um there are quite a few that have actually and sasha is there anything that we could do to keep it out of the business district no matter what
if we did allow it or no it's either banned completely or no limiting out of central business district it would apply any restriction would also apply to toarmacies as well that's the only limitation except banning banning not we would the ordinance
you know i i hate to uh i hate to like i said i hate i hate to stifle uh you know commercial development because that's exactly what we need in this town we need we need more businesses we need more we need more commercial development but um i mean we don't want one every on
every corner either so so what's the balance so what's the balance yeah that's where i'm at i'm with you on that and it sounds like there is no we can't make a balance if we do then we have to ban we have to ban as well which is not that's not fair so no pharmacy doesn't
does not have anything to do when it comes to the ban if if we if we yes it does if we decide to ban them in certain areas if we do we do an entire ban and we have the three that we have that does not affecties right right correct okay so
all i'm proposing is that we put a ban on it and the three that are here are grandfathered in if one leaves our folds is not to be replaced um so we just go that's how i that's my proposal that we
ban them and keep the three that we have allow them to stay and um we can't and we can't do it as a conditional use permit like everything else anything that we do um with dispensaries we would have to do with pharmacies
why not do that withies then maybe what do you think about that um gary gary i'm um that may be a way around that is i mean we would probably let any pharmacy
at least i would open to any pharmacy really then you then that's the way you you accomplish what you're talking about i mean would that work do a conditional use for the dispensaries as well as pharmacies we would have to change it yes for every future for any future businesses and then the commission would
decide each on whether they get a pharmacy or i really i like that idea because that that gives us some i what do you think about that nope i don't like i didn't you don't either all right
so if i if i can offer um this this is approved by ordinance yes is that correct correct if at some point in the future the commission decides to allow them it's just it's two readings of an ordinance
now good policy we don't want to keep going back and forth uh but if there's a compelling reason to reconsider and allow dispensaries it's two readings of an ordinance now you wouldn't be approving a specific allowance you would be
approving it across the board if you were to change the ordinance so i guess one alternative is uh to ban them and then reconsider the ban if there's a compelling reason to reconsider it yeah
that makes sense well i can already tell by what i'm good with banning them i'm not happy with it because of the well i really i kind of like the idea for case on case basis make it all conditional use i mean we would i mean
like i said we don't want a styly commercial development that's what we want but if they go to a certain area that we kind of like then and and one leaves and we want to approve one from there why couldn't we do it as a conditional use it seems like a it seems like a good resolution for for all this
you know i uh with me you know i think as we become who we're going to become the commercial business will follow uh well the concern for me is you know we we spend a lot of time talking about who
we want to be who we want to be um and if we don't what if we have 10 that decide to to come come in on 441 well and they can even on then it's then it's a case by casea b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b
b b b bas and we we we do it as a case by case basis but i mean we have to understand we we need commercial development in this town but gary we need commercial development but we need to be selective about what kind of commercial development we can have right
that's my concern and so i would i like what tom said we do a ban see how it works then goes down if it things change we can reconsider it and so we've got the best of both worlds that way i agree i agree i'm i'm in for a ban we can always lift a ban if we need to right
okay and at least gives us a chance to find out as you're saying who we are what we want to be and go from there and the caliber of medical marijuana facilities that come in might be but i don't it's a i i get where gary is it's
a but i'll go with the van that's my thought okay understood got direction thank you okay is there anything else tom uh that's all we have we are journ till 6 o'