meeting to order a fair meeting that public meetings may be held in person and other This meeting is being held in person on May 14. The public will be on mute until this time question.
Now at that time the public had the opportunity to question how long this meeting was given. The environment commission secretary is directed to conclude this statement and of this
meal stand of to the stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Sean Bailey present. Kelly Flanigan here. Anna Anton here. William Dorner
absent. Susan Glovis. Jesse Murray absent. John Paletti here. Gary Patterson here. John Peters here. Councilman L Barbar is not here. Um also President Burough Secretary Pritzy
Larson. We have a quorum. Great. Thank you. Uh fourth order of business is the emails from April. They were circulated by Christine. All those in favor of
anyone period of current [Music] business. So it's one of the today just because I wanted to officially um I printed for love today. Um it looks
fantastic. It looks fantastic electronically. It looks fantastic. Um I think looking at it in a in a balance format gives you some idea of maybe some some opportunities for peaks. Um but generally I think this is
great. [Music] There are a few things that well first of all it is still working on so it will always be editable with that said I can edit it I I created it in Canva so it's
unless you have an account it's pretty nonacceptable I can share it but if there's any feedback on it um you can go to Christie and it can kind of triple down to me. But in terms of the way that this will change, that's
how it looks in its current. If you see any spelling errors, I mean, we burn oil for a few few times. So any of that sort of stuff, it is an editable document. So yes, so I went through it was
fabulous. Um, and then I went to looked at the attachments. I I looked online. So when I was back, so they won't be in the hard copy. We can add them.
Um they're linked. So um do they not link? They don't have on the documents that you have online. Okay. Um yeah, the old division showed up when you get
to the very end something like that. I was impressed. I didn't see and Maybe I missed something. Yes, that should have linked here should open. So there problems with that mouse and all
that sort of stuff. Um did you see that there was some formatting um it being printed if you wanted it to be a digital library and maybe bound um just maybe some formatting margins
um probably margins yet Yeah, I still have um all the open space poster for the environment. I almost think I got closer to somewhere for a period of time. And I was also wondering too if
there is even a little tiny area of a project or something we can start storing some of these things if you're going to be presenting in towns or we have um if there's some parcel
of some of our storage basement right but um I do think it's wise to show this off a little bit especially um you know I wonder even in the era right before you could put the poster on diesel and just present it off
in the library hall because this for those that didn't make it or didn't have a chance to kind of put their look at that and the poster of I think it's um just a great thing to highlight for do I um would I ask permission
ask Chris if you can have it there for a little bit. Yeah, that's [Music] future poster. We also have a few other folks, right? New Jersey coastal
[Music] Where does this live on the environment website? Does it? Yeah, it's on the left. I got just trying to see what amendments
are. It is. So I think anything else on great um next item is I want you to provide an update on and the committee work. Basically, the
committee work I would say culminated with presentation a couple weeks ago at council meeting. Um I guess the second of a series of presentations where we were asking groups. So it
was victory for what we set out to do which was treatment remediation back back. Um so three things that were were budgeted for one
is basically filtered to go along for grades that feed into the bond segment for in there. Those are great. Um the other was basically attempt to log in a contractor who was going
to require treatments the beneficial [Music] bacteria looking at also as a piece of equipment that kind of like has the ability to skim off the top. So when starts to
accumulate, you don't have to just treat it al like if you got it off the top which is which is great because even question work with the PW part of the
conversation and so we coordinated they'll be able to have container there [Music] um later in fall the one I need to work on with administration
is the whole kind of looking at that whole lot [Music] responsibility very talked about accessibility. I think it's a little bit of a more
complicated conversation because there should be some hydrating coming into play later this year. Road is being renovated as you guys may know later this year. Um and
that's impact parking spots there, the curb there. So kind of all in the same space. It's a little bit more involved conversations to kind of think about timeline now or wait until question
are actually now there's quite a bit of towards the water is and I just wonder um you know yes you presented to council they seem on board but who is taking a
moment now that is going to continue and also in the meantime you suggest that we have the followup waiting with the part to get people aware and looking it's already happening
start you know springtime so um a little other things we can do that residents can do to help um mitate the situation while we're waiting for when the hydro is going to happen when the other side is going to happen.
Yeah. point. So I think the like there's kind of like this effort around let's kind of get the ship going right start activities and then there's like hey we're going the right direction now it's just like
yeah so I think raised their hand offers to some of that visual expression um helping to reach out to people about what they can do especially around. How can you expand it though and
make it more broad like a you know concept of sign there that has some you know dos that yeah we were thinking I I just saw an image of kids fishing um recently with all this algae on the side there
and I um I think it's just a powerful image of bringing this to attention. This is not the only water way in the area that is affected by this. But um you know I'm encouraging folks to take the help but would you this is what's
happening and it's not just the people that are bordering the car you know tips could you you know join in the efforts but perhaps having utilizing that as kind of a catalyst for like larger educational
initiative awareness. I think it's always about it's a hub of activity and we know people know so what do we do
now agree with you and certainly come back to the figurection like a yard sign. They said
underway, you know, just kind of treat people, right? This has been a big issue. People been concerned about sparked the creation of the committee and you know the open houses for people to come out. So I do think yeah we are excited to find out
what's going on. Maybe that's the time to start to circulate some information because I think right the public doesn't know about the timeline and what activ you know fall 2025. All right. In the meantime,
curious what you think about your own project. I think that's a great idea. Wow. Okay. Yeah. So we do that updates residents how we do that over the email
sign I think we should do that but it is in the plan to do that so people will be out [Music] there as planned So
yeah, maybe I missed that. Are you doing that again? So it's it's a recommendation that could be made. uh administration is um in favor of doing it and so it's just
either having third party do it or the county has the service available as well. So it wouldn't be it wouldn't be this [Music]
calendar uh 2026 and February launch the next time. Okay. I thought we did it twice. Yeah. [Music] Right. Okay. Um so I mentioned the last month for
volunteers. Uh so again we are doing master plan it's not reexamination terminology reexamination plan is kind of based on why our teams updates do it every every 10 years. uh basically it's probably 30
plus years in your eyes and so for taking on a major overhaul modering a lot of
the like important elements that's strategy for mobility the land use specifically for this topic um open space conservation and recreation.
Um I need to volunteers to join that committee which would entail several meetings kind of the second half of this year and the first half of next year. I reached out to a lot of our commissions and boards and other volunteer groups um
who you know have a interest in our environmentation but just put it out there someone who's interested in participating and more detailed level seeing [Music]
what's involved in [Music] soc 2026. Um each the national sub elements. So there's element talks
about there's one circulation talks about utilities and so on. Um, so for this one, if you go back to the current, there's not a whole lot written about it. There's not a lot of strategy. There's not a lot there. Uh, so I think
it's a little bit of a space. And so this if you were a part of this committee looking at this sub you would be working with our consultant who is the board
planner people who basically take us through a process of getting the town synthesiz you strategy and objective goals
for I think the bottom is going to be very timing. Um so it's it's not as to put it in context of what we just went through that document. It's not as much hands on
keyboard. So he's kind of driving it driving it with the board spearheading and then all the other taking that those opinions and the town as well. So simple questions that
the town is going to be asked. What do you want your team to be like? Like we've done these threeations in the past. This would be that. So it doesn't as much of a personal thing as it would be
probably monthly to really you know in the period where it's kind of more busy twice touch points. Um but yeah, so it's
specifically documentation they provide. So they'll they'll help us in June. We're talking about when to how to send out one thing that survey it would help us do
this question for every so Yeah, I never before. So, I just say I'm trying to understand from what they're describing to me. Um, but I do think it's great
that we kind of get our own team and we have a chance to drive. It's it's a great thing that we're redoing in time. The ton has changed in so many aspects. It influences all the zoning laws and
that's so have that is incredibly important. So it's important people let me know. you guys. There's there's um there's really not
much research that's kind of missing piece in the current state. Yeah. Yeah. and and realize that they're make sure that that's be done for the re-examination because it will influence that one two
step. So this will be digested by the facility and taken into consideration. Yeah. Yeah. Can you involve represent? Yes. I'll just remind next week. So that
fall there is going to be a much bigger sort of topic. There's going to be a much bigger blowout this time. Is it 16? There's of us kind of make noise that is in every examination we talk
about this district but it doesn't get it like area so it's going to get much more interested so that um that was that Kelly sustainable jersey.
Yep. Um so our second round sustainable jersey application is due on Friday, August 16th. Um currently as of today we have 365 points that have been completed.
Um but that doesn't mean that they've been approved. So the only amount of points that we have been approved thus far 90. So um we are trying to get remember
that we currently are silver size. So that means we have 350 points that we um last time we did this allocation three years ago. So we are far below that um meeting point right now.
Um I'm I'm asking for people who were volunteers to help out with some of these actions. Some of them are lower hanging fruits than others and are more complicated. Um I Christy I want to thank you so much uh for all the
work you've done with all the G3 allocations with everything with the tree ordinances and and everything. Um I think all those points come from your work. So thank you for that. Um so I'm hoping that with this round two that we get a substantial amount 265 points if
they didn't approve. Uh but who knows? Then we have one final round like July 31st. But um they they will accept it May 16th and then they'll let us know by end of
May. We'll come. Um but it's a it's a big lift. It's a big lift and um certainly small you know the role of these actions and so I don't know I I you
know I'm confident we'll get bonds I don't know if we're I with that not I don't know um I just wish it was well we had We had this discussion in school about our little needs 9,000 whatever it is
probably a lot of money to get certified and at some level you know you got to look at the budget how much ef but want to get certification but they turn this into resource process people so they
That's not part of this. No, but it's ask myself and two other people. Did you complete that? But I would, you know, don't unless
I'm not I was just saying it's it's one of those things where if the process is diffult, I get it. You know, then you come around the field and go, what are they trying to point? Why why are we Because it gets expired. We have to make sure that what
we submitted in 2022. Are we still doing those actions? Are we still compliant? Have we still So at a minimum it's updating, right? Like the things that we've submitted. Some of them are, some of them cannot. So there's like different innovative actions and projects
that have Yeah. And so there's listen and and this might be a large talk like the pros and cons of sustaining. I don't know. Is it is it worth it? But at the very least, it's it would be nice to have if people
signed up for an action to do the action and follow. Well, I have to say because I'm stumbling my way through this that is website. It's really really difficult.
Yeah. And I don't, you know, it's in the past it's always been in the making um to do this, but I arguing was shining and it's I don't know so it just and this is a larger you know in
talk I guess in discussion the borrow and also extracting the information that's out there in the universe hasn't been easy either I feel like you know and you're first with the internet like you know I did two or three of them this
afternoon but it's it is a little cumbersome getting the stuff, screenshotting it, and put it up. But I think if as planned, if they were all divied up, you know, everyone took two or three, like it would have been easier. But I'm just asking that, you know,
if I mean, we could still be it. We could see what they say like on that. Um, it could be a larger discussion. At the very least, I'm hoping that we get 100 points to at least maintain our certification. It would be a shame to to lose it, you
know, just because people are forgetting to do or not wanting to deal with the time. Um, I would like to still be part of the program because we worked very hard to get to silver. A few of us did. Um, I would lose it just
because no, you have to complete it. And so they're not going to look at it if it still says plan. You have to put everything up there. Press complete. They'll even if it's not even complete, John, if you click complete, they will give you feedback and say, "You're
almost there. Do you need X, Y, and Z? Sure. But, you know, I just wonder, you know, we've been talking about this, you know, but I just I know documenting is really hard, but it's like, well, I think some of them was sharing
like some of the stuff that we do that we have and you know, you know, then we can't do that. ready vulnerable population and
[Music] wild he will not and then we just can't count that but it's not to do this yearly. This is a two-year plan. This plan took
two years to but can't you say that we're starting we have this plan in place that I mean I have to imagine we have a plan in place to identify not with I think when I talked to last
time there is you have the elderly when you deal with the each and every each [Music] other. We have plans. We have an attack plan for all
the areas. [Music] something to think [Music] about. New Jersey and get it approved. We never have. That's fine. I mean again he's still all the same. take a look and
see. Yeah. Yeah. Was that best practices or where you are? Yeah. 60 volunteers show up.
[Music] But regardless, but regardless of the actual specific actions, it's just, you know, that could have been something heard in like last meeting, last month's meeting or even more so that we could just pivot and see
where we all um you know, I just it's it's myself and Steph and there's a couple here and there, but it's like the bulk and you know that's not even anymore and I'm getting I just I wonder if this is
sustainable level. No, I I you know it just and I know it might be larger it might be larger conversation with the like is there we have pros and cons for this program but regardless I think it took you know we could have had
this conversation last month I jump off the rails when the state of New Jersey made us pay money to develop a storm water management plan it had to be approved by an E4 and I wasted $25,000 of parent money instead of
spending that $25,000 on these bond buying today. I like why there's some kind of rule. Let's just work to so we have to clean the environment not more like that's not the way this rules sometimes and at some level I just
kind of infrastructure you know. But in any in any event, I I do hope that we'll get at least to maintain our promise, which is another good news that we can still be part of it. And I do, you
know, Willsboro, I mean, again, I'm kind of fascinated because I just looked up the gold award. My daughter's living in Wilsboro and it's a completely you want to build a completely autoependent community with no bike, but they have 50
courts. I don't know how Well, but part of it is, you know, they're making up, you know, like a bike lane that's 10 points and I'm like, it should be 50 borrow. I don't make these rules. So,
some next is tomorrow, right? And then I know we were originally presenting this July July. Well, right because ideally I' I'd like to vote in with at least one we were going to get some sort of
certification by like and it would be nice to have 150 points certified that we know what they're at these kind of if silver is attainable great. If not, then you know and we can just be like, "Hey, things right." I
mean, what is the like the hours putting into this and getting people and hunting people, you know, tracking things down versus actually like putting on a um education series, teaching people about how they want. I don't right. So, I I
totally understand it. Um, I I do say I do express some of this as a sustainable Jersey as well. Um, for a burrow this small that has very few volunteers that are overworked and many capabilities. Believe me, but I I mean, if you can't already tell, I guess you can hear the
frustration in my voice. No, the down the wires is like it's a lot. So, Kelly, we talked about this when you first presented it and we said, "Oh, this is great instead of sol. Let's go for gold. So you're down you really been
doing a lot of work. What's the best way to help you complete submit this? Is it to follow up with all said they were going to do something or is it to take additional um tasks on what's the best way to
finish this and then have a bigger conversation because it seems like an incredible amount of work for very few people. Although we all meet different soc and I do think that there are some
that so I worked on a lot today that just need to be revised and updated but there are some actions if we want to go above and beyond there are some actions that need to be part of our system here in that need the burough administrator's help um and our lead our council members
help tracking this information down and so that's really hard I've reached out minister a couple of times on getting some like evidence of energy stuff and I haven't you know gotten that stuff for some of these actions I know Gary's reach out to the liaison leazison no
such as the administrator like there's a lot of if not everybody's on board and that also means the burrow as a whole then it's there's only so much us volunteers can do because a lot of this is above and beyond and that's why we're so grateful to Christy because she has
access to a lot more that has been very helpful to provide that information but there's a point where it just stops and if that communication stops right there and we cannot do any more of these other additional actions and the same with like John like you know if the chief
says this is not attainable then that's not attainable and then those four actions cannot get so um I think if if anybody's has an extra few minutes of time to just scroll through some of these actions they seem doable like,
"Oh, okay. I think we need like this." Then those are the ones that we need to like kind of go for the big like inventory. We tried that. Tried that, you know. Um, where did yours come? Did you have dead
ends of yours? Um, well, I submitted the local business. There's a couple of those each and uh, uh, the bike ones. I was trying to get someation. Um, so I tried to borrow here
and then he brought in Chris. So far, you know, because I don't know if we've done a bike, bike pit, the last one I record is 2017.
[Music] So that's Well, the question is how many times, you know, every time you do it, it's an expense. It's timeization. So how much has the world changed? I mean this is we're not
changing we had I don't know the last 10 years we know things like our stream network today is the same as it was 10 years ago right? Yeah, I mean to do it every time you submit this. Yeah, but I mean
again as usual unless you know unless we've been updated still nothing has changed. There's 93 there's been 95 right now and you know the same occur we have to do schools and we have to
build a new school and we have to change you know aspect other than putting the baseball and stuff like that what you need from us it sounds like each of us log on and see if
there's any last minute thing we can do and then if if you're describing like there's gatekeeping of information for lack of a better term that you can't get from the burrow maybe we can decide next year presentation to the burrow and just
assess do they value this for the town and if so this is right to have that part of the plan and you know I'm not saying I mean there's a why sustainable Jersey has these actions. I mean, I think that they are valid to have like it would be nice to have a pen
and vulnerable populations rather than talking about it actually have it on paper. Absolutely. You know, but like these things are all part of long-term planning, right? Um so I get that it's a good framework but um you know I mean
but there are just larger discussions with the bur with the master stuff in right is it important to know like one step of that is knowing and that's
where you know they came from because it's a priority want to know where we're going to make sure electric or efficient or whatever that's valuable I think as we should not um you know
that's it has to come from top NHS. [Music] Yeah. Oh, anyway. Um, so that's all I just That's all the update if you have. If not, we're we'll submit with 265 points and hopefully we'll know the status by
next month's meeting where we are and you can look forward that moving to business. Um it agenda 21
road shared us by the We all have more to go away and comments uh you know what we would expect what we would advise the 21 committee to
consider that one today in there time to go through each recommendation on that But I would be happy to open the floor dial themes or concerns or
questions up and discuss before we kind of tie that off and share. Anything looking at these comments are the common theme game of um living shorelines and soft
stabilization not I think leaning away from bulkheads um from more pavement there's been a lot of like you know permeable services and um you going along with the theme of passive park I know for many of you that were not in
our region prior to years ago I think just the three of us here like living shorelines was at de park for say a week I already was for quite a long time. Um I wonder for the sake of getting everybody um up to date with
what a living is what it entails how it can work efficiently. Um maybe we rebringing sack from American middle society. um and from the ALS is a informative discussion about what that
could look like both at fair and gate and if there is um an opportunity to work with community partners like ALS of you know to kind of use this as a case study as an example of how that can be efficient I mean you know municipality
can do that efficiently on her I think it could also be we had Nick Pensky and Zach come in and talk about it and and how does move forward with it. Um, but I also wonder if that could be a collaborative meeting with the members
of because I don't know what's there versus what as much as that option alternative option for making and stabilizing. Oh, I was concerned about the timeline.
Seems like a lot of engagement submissions are due within like three or four month span and there are contingencies for the money that go within that that was my big concern.
Um it's an expensive part. So to miss those would be more. But I do like I like the the involvement. that including
that Susan put in her comments that this should be it offers an opportunity to be an example of best practices and sustainable land management for native but I think that's something that should only start to
be the one the We have to have environment access and also
because people can drive there. Yeah. So the thing is you know how you still keep the national that way. Yeah. I really think they should explore down
there. turn around for example drop off that we don't want to encourage [Music] people it's much wider
uh it's much less dense properties. So I think we encourage drivers that space park there which is very narrow and very dense
and I talked a little bit about there's already a really nice overgrown buffer between 213 at the side there and I would love see that just maintain the same kind of
buffer property from space. Um and then it also kind of comes around far side east side and it's fence there also green that physical
bottom. What's next? Uh I think Drew asks everybody so that Uh I think I saw this invitation now where general public come
to somewhere to dialogue about so that's another put to that basic but your
point probably explore a little further. Is there any sort of knowledge sharing or education that we could offer that community? is there, you know, thinking this to
help a framework to evaluate that. And I mean, the plan said that they were going to, you know, I guess solicit input from like professional engineers architects and things like that.
like what's the process for that case where you know how to you know bring them on board right there some kind of procurement process if you're in an empire profession unless you know I think
somewhere lateralize preapprove you know so I don't know if there's I don't John or somebody like you know like engineering or something where part of it is you have internal
engineers then you know the question is what's the scale and scope of what you're doing right so the house you get contract design on the workload um with these things You know, again, anytime we're
riding park, I always have 100 year time horizon. You know, let's not be in rush because we didn't buy this for us. We worked this for 50 years. So, you know, it's just a process and you can't, you know, you can't get
crazy. It's not done yet. We just And you know, we've had a lot of stuff come along over time, but really right. And this is really just us getting ready for banking for the future. It doesn't matter exactly, you know, but
we should think about what we really want to do. And I think that to like we do have engineers in house, but we never once you make Yeah. Once you make the decision, hey, we're going to do this. It doesn't have to happen in the next six months. would be okay. Let's
queue it up, get it into the capital plan, say yes and then say how many will your fee and then say what will you use to one of one of the more expensive things to do is pull it one direction and turn around and come back. So I'd rather sit there and say okay what are
we going to do with it your feet and then go out design correctly do it right well that's the council so I just wonder if you know if there is a piece or
opportunity that people are open to to learn more about the true lines I'm happy to reach out and And you think that whoever just wants to learn about alternative areation. Yeah. And and one of the questions is
how much do we have to do? Right. I mean it already is it's not agreed. It's it's changed and modified. It's not as hard as it was. Right. Right. more income, right? That if we don't touch that, those trees are going
to be lost. That's probably going to get back. So wondering if there's a chance to kind of look at this holistically with the hangouts with with fair evidence and have some I mean there was already plans for with ALS they wanted
to partner with us use it and help us with funding and I just wonder though if there's opportunities to alleviate some of that network design um you know just having that conversation we've met is we are that
body right is his recommendations yeah the challenge is anytime you usually are talking and that is in
my talk yeah I will have here it won't be you know I mean I've had enough interaction on the 12 side that wow it gets kind of crazy there you And yeah, sure. Society can do something
cheap and efficiently. People about we talk about it. We know it, but some of the people maybe you guys might not know the ins and outs and of it and people are might not. Yeah. I think it's a great action
tonight because it was great to see you got so and I'm happy to facilitate that you know and see if I can reach out and reach you had that in the past but um that was probably three years ago
four years ago that came three years ago back um So perhaps we can be listening. We try to find our minutes. Yeah, Nick was on there too. You
know, this might be nice to have anyone that wants to come learn more. So just closing this out and Jessie comments from you guys. comics. Yeah.
Um just on another and I I um I know this is to be a passive part, right? Um, but you know, if there was some kind of structure um where you could do some kind of educational
or component, you know, wouldn't it be nice if you could envision some kind of barnlike structure and your caregiving library does their story time with kids during the day in the summertime, right? Or if we had an environmental talk series down there and you could have some structure. It doesn't have to be
inside, but it at least opens up so you can have that um you know, if it's okay after it might be nice or to have that opportunity to like store stuff or you know that you utilize smaller public events.
Are you thinking like walls or just um you know I put I put in a link um and to this really cool um I think there I've seen like a bar just open up and you have indoor
outdoor you can have is a part of this that you've gone to that was amazing right water too and it's all passive but My kids went for a um butterfly story time and they made a cute little craft and it was just a very pleasant way to
leave people spot. Um I don't know just thinking of some sort or it could be I don't know pavilion or whatever but some sort where you could actually have a gathering space. Yeah. Right. But you know, you don't have that,
right? I just have a question. We had um the sports clock for May 17th. Yes. Yes. Thank you, Susan, for bringing that up. Um I have Yeah, this couple things. Um
this got us a new action point. Our material news. So our sports swap is on Saturday at Fairfield from 9 to 12. Anybody you could bring anything, any type of equipment, clothing, sporting um stuff
you can bring and drop off and you can grab something if you'd like. Maybe you want to. You don't have to bring something to grab something either. Um, so it's going to be it's a it's a great example of a collaborative um collaborative effort with Rumson as
you can. So it's Rumson careg sports dog which is great and then um also that day at the club they are having a used and gentle used and new toy drive to also um
you know reuse toys as well. So that's what I'm tend to slot. Um so if you guys are in spring cleaning out your sport equipment and toys, there's great ways to avoid throwing them out but actually
two things. Um, one I was rather shocked that the girl was killing the bees and I think we should think about next year having discussion on this because first of all we're spending our time go out and kill their ground bees.
They're their natural parts of our environment. I don't got anybody to do that again. I just got the notice. I got Did you get the text that said I'm very
It was It was a Friday. A couple people wrote emails to um the town um saying, "Please, let's not do this." And and giving points about that most are that they don't stay in their hometown for
weeks. Um that they won't bother you. But I think the there was some reached out the town against it. Um especially because it was spraying and the kids were in spring break anyways. There was no kids but the fact that was spraying
parks. Well, that's scary. I don't know. Definitely. and trying to understand I was doing it because again all I hear about polit and then I watch us I'm doing it
genocide for what I there's no reason but I I couldn't get it the other thing is we should really talk about graph is this the second year they did it can we do something more
formal write a letter I think I've heard say we're concerned seems to be around. Yeah. Let's have a discussion about it. Obviously sounds like
something we think about. Um the other thing is gravel get gravel is a nice thing. It's nice permeable blah blah blah and I don't have to spray it for weeds. I can teach you about how to use I think that the
ordinance is so and I've had different discussions back and forth about why it's not permeable and I'm like I don't know my house. Are you talking ground? Same thing keep the ground cover because like
you know like the amount of ground my property doesn't get doesn't get sprayed doesn't have to be it just air I come I have a hole they go through once in a while I put the weeds out and that's the end of it and yet I don't think it's in any way shape or form
encourage and it's kind of like well that's not cover but I every every script you have Right. Well, I know my that's Harvey
store Harvey. I said, "This is a problem except yesterday." So I said, "Okay, I'm going." So that was the end of the discussion. And they called me all the surgeries that died right there in the park like a dog and they only last four
to six weeks in the springtime. And usually they they the males don't even have stingers and they're the ones that hover above the ground and they just go out into their local colony. They come back, they lay their eggs in the ground for come back up the next day.
Do we know why? Well, I think again said that now poison will go back. Yes. So, it's something experiencing. I don't think it was a reaction to maybe one or
two things that just started happening over but is it now it may be but you know I spoken to the
principal at the school and she told the kids to let them be and they're fine did not want this um it wasn't a school thing I think it was basically the opinion um last year we spoke in at a council meeting complaining about the
uh about spraying at the council meeting because last time they put up the notice a week before um this time they didn't get much well I mean this is where we just got to say no I don't think it's a good idea but I think that having behind
is really important because we are being representing our body and we were not aware of it. It seems to be detrimental to the community. I don't see much. Isn't there
[Music] anything? Well, I was just going to say last year I stood at the council meeting and I said, "I'm confused why this was crazy. They're pretty innocent all the pollinators and I said I was wondering who authorized this and
mayor too many in the park and dangerous things." Um, and it supposedly is a deterrent thread which exists.
So I'm assuming I I this year but [Music] um public space I don't know I think you should ask why
I think they see that yeah I don't know who this Is anybody passionate about your letter? Drew Sean and Sean and Drew and it was
forward to Chris. Um Kathy and the church wrote a letter to you because she's done extensive research on these. Yes. Native pollinators and the mayor wrote back to her. I don't that thing if somebody were to get stung
and have allergic reaction that would be a problem but it's the same thing like why now have peanut butter you know like you just need to there and I think the educating about different densities and why what
serve as a role that is play in our environment should just not happen First off, chemical I can imagine. Everything he does. All right. Um I have some business. There's an art show this
weekend. It starts Friday night from 5 to 8. It's called name after this. Where is it? That's in there on river road. Starting local business in the local business. So it starts out with less and
it goes to like Yeah. Rice Management Third and Linux and our very good ones. So how are they identified? So if not
there are maps that are available. So um there are 20 businesses on the strip that are okay. You got to follow our Instagram but we can we can send that out as well. It's also going to be on a physical handheld map that's available there. So,
do you have QR codes? Nope. It's gonna be with the map, all the artists, their bios. It's available at the art show. So, it starts by um any other business? Um, we had one administrator
on the agenda, [Music] John. You guys ready to go? And public comment. So, mayor reached out to everybody and mentioned that there was some changes
within the organization. Um, just want to clarify that I resigned from the environment commission as chair because tired of it, but out of town.
Good. So my my resignation is as of end of this month, the next council meeting board that Kelly will be taking over as chair. Super excited. You know, it's been I think
it's been a different year. Hopefully, it's been a good experience. Generally, it's been a great experience for me. Um, I think we've done some great work. I don't take any credit for that, but I'm so glad that I was here
and more to do. Definitely more to do. And I really like the idea of Kelly taking the reigns and her experience the green team. And something I just kind of always talk about is there's great synergy between the boots on the ground
concept team, the people that want to volunteer, the kind of setting strategy, set the stage and bring that together. So looking forward to this will be my last meeting tonight
with you guys. So, when you came in, it was a little rocky and I think you were all um a little not unsure of your ability to lead, but unsure of the way that the circumstances that surrounded that. I know that I personally felt a little blindsided by
it. Um, but I talked to you oneonone and and I'll say that I was extremely proud of the work that you did with us. You kind of um, you know, you had very strong leadership skills and it and it
helped this group. I think this group together is wonderful. Um, we had a leader that got a lot done. So, it was really awesome. Well, I came and I'm hoping that you learned a
lot from your message, too. Just um if we can get you thinking about natives and living and things that maybe you didn't have, you know, think about like this. So, you know, as far as just educating other people. So, um I appreciate your openness and insight to
learn about what what this committee does, this commission and you know what we're trying [Music] with just getting Um I I really think it would be great to
have American literally repair something either in person or this is a bulkhead. This is a major line just for the public meetings so that people do have a visual understand. I mean I don't know if they have this already. They probably do have
something lined up. Um but just to present it because so many opportunities for it and being that that is actually kind of lends itself to and you know be I think it would be great to
have that as an educational character. [Music] Um I highlight this application with court today and I was asking about Japanese this was in
Pennsylvania and she said oh god it is the worst thing is asking but we need to take more seriously and I said I have been for years now trying to get our son to take the investigation seriously. We have it
everywhere and it is really a big deal and it's bamboo and it's it just runs underground. Um your neighbor has it. It's going to be in your yard. It's I would say it's all over by the concession stand. That whole area is a
big mixed in with the um down very um down. It just I know it's right out here. It's in the bush
here. But the trick is to continually cut it. Cut it. Cut it. You can I don't think there's any alternative than to spray chemical into the stem somehow. It just blow out anything else. So I just
think it's something that if the environmental commission could say the biggest problem, we need to dedicate PW hours to cutting it and trying to eradicate it. I mean at least it a
little bit. It just I mean I know about it. I mean he you know they know about it but I think the environment say this isn't environmental issues. I mean, it's coming into the natural area. There's some trail. It's um it's
just it's a monocult Yeah, that was that was I had to do that. That was all cut back. You think it's worth because if you see right where my house
is at the birth there's that whole clearing. It's because there can be I DPW knows what to do. I think I think it's just that it's not a priority. Um and asking you
to perhaps do some research. I don't care about it. I care about it. Huh. Just so much, right? Isn't that part of the ordinance that we
have that right down to the Um and it's something that Kelly is aware you know the bamboo and
transport is not in there. The reason it's not in there is because we alerted this ham. I said the number one vital whatever this is the and it had prohibited plants shall mean all
vegetation known as and this is commonly known as the Japanese not entry it is in there it's prohibited plants but I don't know like once it's already established it it's in there but you know I do wonder something on like you
know I don't know what you do it. It's more on property owners to um but they should um shall not be permitted with any buffer zones per you cannot plant it but but how do you right what is the
um it's also something all plantings must be contained by appropriate physical barriers to prevent the growth and spread of invement plans within any buffer zone of any property. So um you know I think this is worthwhile to look into again and see like is there stuff
that this ordinance also pertains to the actions of the world maintaining it so that it doesn't spread further. Um but then speaking of invasive like I wonder what other invasive things should be included in the help. I mean, yeah. I mean, I think it would also be great for
an environmental commission to have a health plant list in, you know, just what you recommend the invasive like English bush um English um tree, you know, cali, you
know, there's a bunch of them barberry. um they shouldn't they are proven to spread into our wild areas and um replace the native plants that are important. So if there's a list of
things that people just should know do not plant that would be great. I I think going along right with what you said too, it works against what we've been working with. You know, we have so many community service at days and hours trying to remove these invasives and yet
people are planning these invasives on because they don't know that they're bad. Um it's on private and property as well. I think it's really important perhaps as our body to give some recommendations. I know Shady Creek gives these are our recommended trees
and native trees. because it's why that we recommend these but I do think some plantings as well um should be a do that is quality um on property and this could be
sharp put it together she knows I wanted authorized person to do it I mean I think she put this together with us it sounds like there is you spread it out.
trees. This is just this was a bamboo ornament that was done in 2022 that is just simply bamboo tree of heaven and death. But there's others like burning bush which is really you know and I have that existing in my backyard but body
was like that's sad because the birds will take it drop the seeds elsewhere and then the concept is present. It's a it's a distractor. It doesn't have to be something we need to work on that as well. to Yeah, because it says bamboo and invasive plants and I wonder if we
those are like the terrible ones, but there's also, you know, the list that aren't good either that should refrain from staying away from private like
travel property because of the spreading they can do when birds take the seeds and drop them. Some of these plants are toxic birds and toxic wild from that's all
for say if they're parked on the bird sanction you can't walk that somebody brought in mulch or something with already had that conversation about dirty top soil a
lot but construction you could tell a dark top soil that's supposed to be used to fill it up and dirt you'll see that you know that that stand that's where you're
these, you know, these work just so it's being taken from somewhere else and reused by the landscaper. They're just putting in they're not actually buying top and they're probably not buying either. They're taking from one place to
another. I actually was filtered back from there. The only flight from six to three all the way to two is two and two and four grand. [Music]
Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned the woods, right? Like we have 40 acres of woods in the [Music] area or something. So, um, and it is the, um, Japanese.
It says, um, yeah, it says, "Okay, I'll get in there, I don't think." Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Anytime you bring anything it says um if you look at Caroline under
definitions prohibited plants shall mean all vegetation known as one of whatever that you know common as Japanese and so those are under prohibited names maybe right frame that's just under your
definition but um you know so maybe All [Music] right. What's [Music] your Yeah. Any other questions, comments? Motion to
do a second. Thank you everyone. [Music] Well, there's so