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>> yes. Miss Sally, >> yes. Hoey, >> yes. Olson here. >> We have administrator York, Attorney Silvo Bazoom, CFO Britain, engineer Gordella, and EPW director Fort.
>> All right, Cecilia here. >> Yeah, >> she is. All right, we are starting off. We have a proclamation tonight. Does not happen often here. And like you come on up.
So, um, this is congratulating Cecilia Foster. She achieved the Girl Scout Silver Award, which is pretty awesome. I'm going to read it to you and then we'll present it. So, it says, "Whereas receiving a Girl Scout Silver Award is
the highest award that can be bestow bestowed upon a Girl Scout cadet. And whereas this is an earned award in that the recipient must dedicate significant time and leadership toward creating a sustainable community project that addresses a local need while
demonstrating compassion, courage, and a strong commitment to community service. And whereas only 10% of Girl Scouts across the country country actually achieved this goal. That's pretty good. Whereas as her silver service project,
Cecilia addressed both the issue of food waste and the lack of food where there are so many hungry people in the community and there is so much extra food that goes to waste each and every summer. And whereas Cecilia's target audience was the recipients of the food that comes from the local food pantries.
However, her project also benefited gardeners in the area and high school students. And whereas Cecilia recruited RFH school pea club members to come into designated garden plots and harvest extra food and then bring the food to a local food pantry to be distributed from
there. This is getting more impressive as we go. Whereas by doing this, reliable high schoolers received their necessary hours. Gardeners did not need to deal with extra rotting produce which helped deplete the amount of wasted food and increase the mass of food at local
food pantries. And whereas a court of honor was held on November 19th, 2025 to present Cecilia Foster with the Girl Scout Silver Award. Now therefore, be it resolve that the mayor and council of the Burough Fair Haven hereby extends
their congratulations to Cecilia for having the Girl Scout Silver Award conferred upon her by the Girl Scouts of the Jersey Shore. [Music] Yeah. >> All right. Let's press start. Let's
see. Yeah. >> All right. Um, that's quite an achievement. Great job. >> Yeah, congrats. >> Uh, we we're now moving on to the public comment on agenda items portion of our meeting. Please observe a threeminut
time limit. Please state your name and address uh for the record. And is there anyone with a public comment on agenda items only? >> And no, Allison, >> I have Stephanie Adams. That's from Hannah. >> Sure.
>> Hi Stephanie. How are you? >> Good. Sorry, I was having trouble unmuting. Um I really don't have a comment on the um agenda items, but I do have a comment on Cecilia Foster. Um I just wanted to say congratulations. What an achievement. Um, what an amazing
contribution to our community. So, I just wanted to say congrats. >> Anyone else? >> I literally raised my hand by accident and I had to just make something up. >> Muted. >> What? I just >> I just
crying. Sue Susan going once. Susan O'Brien. >> I I just got the unmute. >> How are you >> from TS and Hos? >> Whoa.
>> You took us on vacation with you, Susan. >> Wait, really? Yes. >> I I got to criticize you. I don't know what here you call for potatoes. >> What's going on? Anyway, um before you enact that 400
square feet trigger for run the storm order management, um I think the process needs to be um revised to make it simpler for everybody because uh if you have to go through all the steps, it's going to get very
expensive. So there needs to be a way to um I don't know streamline it, do something different before you en enact this because I sat at the um planning board meeting when it was discussed. They were concerned about um uh how how
much of a financial impact it was going to be. >> Thank you, Susan. No, no worries. I appreciate the comment and we did receive a memo from the planning board um with two items on it. One of them I think is dimminimous and
we're going to address it later tonight I believe and then the other one I think Drew can speak to um it now or do you want me to wait? >> Well, we could address it um >> because I have like six or seven things just want to hit real quick. So Susan, just to answer tracking everything you said, we have we have answers and
whatnot based on that and I'll go into it before we put it >> before we put it through a vote. >> Yeah. Thank you, Sus. >> Great. >> Um, anyone else? Also, >> that's all. >> Thank you. Uh, next up is approval of minutes from November 10th, the regular meeting and the executive session. Do I
have a motion to approve? So >> second. >> Allison, may I please have a roll call? Um, I don't think you can second. Yep. >> Second. Yes. Second. >> Thank you, Alison. >> Council members. >> Yes. >> Wait, is this the Sorry. I'm sorry. Can
we go back? >> We're approving minutes from the regular meeting. >> One quick change. Is that okay? One quick >> to the approval minutes. You mean? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You have an omission. Um the on the first page, Councilman Olsen said that the governing voted. So, I think it's supposed to be governing body. It's very
small, but that's regular meeting. >> Yeah, that was regular meeting. selling. Yes. Potch. >> Betsy, >> you might be on mute. >> Yes. >> Also,
>> yes. >> Uh, thank you. Old business hearing and adoption of ordinances. We're starting with 2025-9 amending stormwater management regulations. I have a motion to open. So, second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Anyone opposed?
>> Thank you. Um, does anyone have anything up here? >> Uh, yeah. I I mean I share the planning board's concern. I did some of my own homework. I had a chance to talk with Drew touched on Brian um our borrow engineer and Mr. York and I I know we're
all concerned about some of the same things. So have a plan to track it >> over. And I I also agree and that is why I brought it up at the last meeting and asked Rich the same concerns. So I feel pretty confident but I agree we need to make sure we're tracking this >> 100%. So so few different Yeah, I can I
can anchor it. >> I was just going to say there there were two concerns of the planning board. I think they both are addressed um with with a few um minor edits. Uh there was a couple of typos is the way I characterize it. >> Yeah. So I do think that is in the spirit of what the planning board was looking for.
>> Um but going >> Yeah. Uh, so I'll I'll anchor these pieces four or five and I'll be as succinct as I can there. >> Um, so first question that came up was the question of 400 square feet. Um, Rich, keep me honest. Our research showed 250, but we assessed that that
was too burdensome for the residents. We increased it to 400. Um, as far as replacement, replacement is a defined term in here. It's not meant to capture you're taking the sheetrock off their walls and redoing it. It's meant to capture when you substantially remove something uh and put it back. Right? Okay, so that should be a capitalized
term in here. Uh, so Andrew, I already talked to you about that. Deminimus. Um, the other piece of this is process. So I want to break this apart real quick. The intent of the storm order, Rich Kiana is here. The intent of the ordinance is to one define minor storm water management.
>> Minor minor development. >> Minor development. Sorry, thank you. I keep doing that for some reason. Tired. Um, and then the other side of it is to make sure that uh stormwater best management practices or BMPs are being put in place. Right. The operational execution of that the process is defined
by the zoning office. So if you recall two or three meetings ago at this point there was a draft of that right. So when we talk about tracking when we talk about the extent of what's required all of that is a conversation with the zoning office as has already taken place. The one dimminimous change though
that has to take place in here um is section 30-14.9 uh the last section D. Um Andrew this is what I was talking to you about. It's uh variances a variance from strict compliance with the requirement of section 30-14.9.
Right? So what that means is is is that the situation doesn't warrant it. It's not practical. Right? We had to provide the flexibility to the zoning office to make that determination. Number one, but not all lots are fit perfectly. So in summary, addresses the replacement,
addresses the process, addresses what's required, and then make sure that there is that flexibility for the zoning office as Rich and Nick do already, right? Working with the residents, if it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't make sense, why give undue burden, time, money, energy
to the resident? Um >> with one additional if I if I may the um the idea of tracking the ratio of costs associated with these new base documents are going to be necessary for application. So it triggers the need for
a few more um required documents whether we're talking about survey grading plan soil flooring tests so on. understood that this is likely to be a rather dimminimous portion of an overall project. But if there's a way to track
that, >> not necessarily breakout dollars, but percentage- wise, what percentage of the pro total project cost are those additional reports costing with the idea that we're we're looking to make sure we're not um putting a strangle hold on
investing in homes um and people's properties. Obviously, we want to encourage that. Yeah. And and just two other things I'll add and close out. Right. So when I went through the process and working with Nick and acting as if the ordinance was live, you know, if I had this, there would have been way
more work that I did up front with my architect than waiting, right? So there would have been a huge actually economies of scale for me there. Um and again, I'm just I just want to give real quick shout outs to to everybody that's helped on this. Uh Rich, Nick, Todd
Meer, Peter and Chznley, Brian. Um um help me out here, Chris. Who else? Um obviously Christian work tremendous amount of effort. Like there were Alison, >> so Christina Malo, like there was so many people involved with this over the
last four years. Um and I think Mayor like we've always talked about nothing's perfect, right? We'll track it. Rich has a phenomenal enhanced process, right? Sounds like we're going to make a couple extra enhancements to it. Uh, but I'm I'm really proud of what this town and this council and these groups did. So, if I missed anybody, I apologize. There's so many people involved with it.
But, um, with that, I'd like to make a mot. We're still in open comment here. So, I have to ask if there's first of all, is everyone else here to move our comments? Is there anyone in the public has a comment on this ordinance? Allison, anyone online?
>> No one's hand up. >> Okay. Does anyone have a motion to close? I'm >> second. >> All in favor? >> Anyone opposed? Someone want to make a motion? >> A motion to approve 2025-9 with those two dimminimous changes of capitalizing the R replacement and then
updating that one section from a six to a 9. >> Just before you be before we ask for a vote, Andrew uh Soil, do you agree that the we're good? The minimus. All good. >> Yes. I spoke to Councilman La Barbar before. I agree. >> Great. Um Alison Alison, may I please
have a roll call? >> Council members call. Yes, >> yes, >> yes. >> Yes, >> yes. >> Thank you. Uh, next up is 2025-20 uh bond ordinance improvements to
Cambridge Avenue. Do I have a motion to open? >> Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Anyone opposed? Does anyone have any questions on this? >> Just quickly introduce the project, describe it. >> Yeah. wants to describe Cambridge
Avenue. Somebody could describe it. >> So, if you recall, we submitted a grant to NJTO municipal aid. You awarded an amount um
200 276. >> Yeah, 272. It was uh >> I think it was 272 >> was for the improvements to Cambridge Avenue which would take you from Ridge Road or Harding Road all the way and
then it would terminate behind um Milo School. So pretty good length of roadway. New curbs, sidewalks, aprons, ADA improvements, milling and paving. um no substantial drainage improvements
over there, but obviously we look at all that when we do a road project. So the bond ordinance um like other road jobs is to cover the difference in the grant amount based on the engineers estimate >> where would this work occur?
>> So we actually just obtained I just obtained three quotes from our existing engineers for survey work. So upon adoption of this ordinance, I'll make a recommendation, get the survey work done, base mapping done um based on our
schedule looking at a a winter design bit in the you know and then come back to you guys for optimization in the early spring >> and Rich the um the standard right line item includes like the jettison and clean infrastructure afterwards. So, in
all of our projects, we've been adding line items to um jetting and cleaning of the storm drainage pipes. Yes. >> How the sweet trees over there? >> I think they're okay. Yeah. >> Okay. It's a very wide rightway. So,
things seem to be set back. >> Are there is there any um storm water are there any storm water issues at all there? No, >> not that. >> I mean, you got the existing creek as you approach Nwood. >> Yeah, there's like a a slush way there.
>> We cleaned that up a bit a few years back and we added the sidewalk along that one Yeah. >> area. So, we would just kind of just mill and pave and tie into that area. >> Nancy, can you refresh us on when this
would get bonded out and sort of how all that would work? So, at this point, it's um going to be unfunded money. We I would think that we would just bond it out with the rest of the money we're going out for in the spring. >> Yeah. Okay. >> It makes more sense.
>> So, let's be bold into that. >> Anyone get up here, >> sir? Anyone in the public have any comments? >> I actually have a question. I'm not here for that tonight, but Colin Burns, I live on church 251. Just quick question about that. When
they came in the spring and they opened up all the water lines to check for um lead pipes, the contractors that came in tore up all of the grass aprons. They said they were going to be back to fix it and they weren't. Is that something they're going to address when they come in to do that project? Um Chris,
>> do you want me to do talk about that or do you >> Well, I was I I you can. >> All right. So, >> so discovered that um obviously your water utilities handled by Redbank, right? >> So, you have Red Bank water there. Uh Redbank's water utility did all those
road openings. We discovered that they did not do road opening permits. Um they were they were sent a letter um we um sent the letter about two months ago to rep bank. Um informing them that they have permit fees that they have to pay. Um as well as they have to comply with all the regulations or ordinance for
permit fees. Um we have still yet to get a uh response or payment from them. I know the uh the bur administrator reached out to me and I you know questioning it and uh we had him you know relayed that we could have a meeting with my mayor and him to discuss it. um as of right now. So, I've not
heard anything back on, but we do plan on following up on that on December 1st. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else in the public? >> Allison. >> No. >> No. Uh do I have a motion to close? >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> Anyone opposed? >> Uh do I have a motion to approve? >> Motion approve. >> You can make your choice. >> I can please have a roll call. Council members Paul, >> yes. >> Miss, >> yes. >> Hatch,
>> yes. >> Farah, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Uh 2025-21 supplement pro code chapter 2-26.5 police personnel to include a police chaplain. Got a motion open. So second. >> All in favor? Anyone opposed?
>> Anyone up here have anything on this? >> I do, mayor. >> I was going to say thank you for all the work. Betsy, over to you. I just want to say thank you for all the work that went into it since the last one. >> Yes. I just would like to uh reiterate
what I said at the last meeting when we discussed this that when we go to look for a chaplain, regardless of what denomination that chaplain represents, I would prefer to be someone at least when the first search begins with a member of
our community, someone that's familiar with our residents and familiar with the town of Fair Haven. Um, and if that's not possible, then we could, you know, move our search further outward. But that's it. Thanks.
>> Anyone else up here? Anyone in the public have anything on this? >> No. Allison. >> No one has their hand up. >> I have a motion to close. So >> second. All in favor? >> Anyone opposed? Do I have a motion to approve? >> So move. >> Second.
>> Alison, may I please have a roll call? >> Yes. Missing. >> Yes. >> Posh, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Uh, we're moving along to new business, introduction of ordinances
2025-22 to amend chapter 23, storm water management and municipal storm sewers. Um, >> just a it's a followup to chapter 30. So, this was some of the cleanup required post 30 being adopted.
um >> just to make them consistent basically. >> Yeah. Right. There was one here and there was one with fees not too long ago that was updated as well. So this is just ensure that all the ordinances get cleaned up and aligned. >> Does anyone have any questions for this? Does anyone have a motion? So moved. >> Second. Allison, may I please have a
roll call? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> H. >> Yes. >> Permanent. >> Yes. Uh, next up, 2025-23, amend chapter 4, general licensing,
subsection 17.1, commercial filming fees. >> I'll take the lead on this one. Um, so Allison and I did some review of our current ordinance, which is roughly about 10 years old. We noticed that our fees um are slightly reduced from uh what our surrounding municipalities
have. So we figure there was time um to update them especially with Netflix um coming in more recently for permits and Netflix opening studios in Fort Min. So we want to update the fees that are consistent with our surrounding communities. >> We don't have anything on this motion to
approve. >> Oh hold on. >> What what happened? Where does this money go in terms of which bucket of revenue? Is it it's unrestricted? I imagine is it >> it would go in under MNA >> under what >> miscellaneous >> revenue not anticipated.
>> Thank you. >> Okay, very good. >> MNA was me and Nancy. Me and Nancy do that. >> Um, do I have a motion to approve? So, I think I already had one second. Alison, may I please have a roll call?
>> Cole, yes. Missy, yes. >> Potch, >> yes. >> Yes. else. >> Yes. Um, next up is the consent agenda. We're talking about 2025-272 through 279. Before I ask for a motion,
I want to point out that we're changing the council reorganization meeting date to Tuesday, January 6th, 2026. It's listed as the fifth on the reorganization pack on on the consent agenda packet. I also want to address
some um communications I received today. On the consent agenda, there are three appointments this evening. This is a formality and part of the ordinance and New Jersey Fireman's Association requirements. They've already been accepted into the Fairman Fire Department at one of their department meetings. The community does not get to
provide an input to the governing body on this matter. Uh does anyone have anything on the consent agenda? >> No. >> Before I ask for a motion, no. Uh I have a motion to approve. So >> second. >> Allison, may I please have a roll call? >> Members poll. Yes,
>> yes, >> yes. >> Yes, >> yes. Thank you. Next up is the Department of Reports October 2025. I really think there I hope I really hope there's a motion to accept the thank you motion with the thank you. >> Wow. Second.
>> All in favor? >> Anyone opposed? >> Thank you. We are at the good of the burrow portion of the meeting. Please can identify yourself by clearly stating your name and address for the record. Please observe a time limit of 3 in before I go to the public. Anyone up here go to the burrow?
>> Two things. Um, one just wanted to echo all the work on the storm water. Uh, a few years ago we we talked about levers, right? Um, and this was kind of one of four levers. First one was the clean out. We did all of Hams all the way to
the river. I think we move 57 tons of debris out of that. all the changes for month court that we did all the storm water management infrastructure PDCCDW and now closing a major loophole. There was also one other one with alignment with the DGP um a couple years ago. Um
on that note, just one quick update because I know we talked about this. Um our administrator a couple weeks ago sent out an update on the uh D and just want to read it to put on the record so folks can just be kept appraised. Um it was shared to us two results from 3
weeks of sampling. Good news is the Shrewsbury Shrewsbury River Yacht Club has been showing low levels of fecal form over the last 3 weeks. Did get a couple high levels on River Road by both creek and SRC on the 22nd October. They're going to run some additional testing. Um but overall that is still
something that's being tracked very very closely by our administrator but with the NJTP we continue to track it. So um thanks. >> Excellent. Okay. Um, I want to say congratulations to the Fair Haven Green team for their um, getting sustainable Jersey silver status but then also
getting um, the collaboration award for the estuary and I'm really proud of them. We Chris and I got to be there to get the award with them at leaving municipalities last week and it's a lot of work. I remember being on the green team getting all those points. So, thank you to all of the administration the
everyone who was involved in helping them get a silver status. >> Just one thing I want to add to it as well. I wish Jenny was still here. Um she was there at the ceremony as well. There are only two towns the city of Jersey received the collaboration award and we were one of them. So I love collaborating. I think it perfectly
defines everything that's done here in the burough of Fair Haven. What a fantastic community and appreciative of of the uh efforts all around. It's awesome. >> Very distin uh in the public. Anyone good to the burrow? Sure. Come on up. Please state
your name and address for the round. >> Burns 251 Cambridge Avenue. How are you guys? Good. I know most of you. I'm here with a contingent of my neighbors from my street addressing something we brought up over three years ago, the parking issue due to Redbank Regional. Um wrote up uh basically some of our
thoughts and ideas for further improvement because we really haven't seen improvement. In fact, things have been getting worse. Um altercations with students. Um it's it's all written up in here. I don't want to read the entire thing. I made copies for all of you. I can give you a brief summary. Maybe you can look at it over the holiday. Um, and
we could try to figure out some other ideas of how we can make improvements there. Um, can I give that to you guys perhaps? >> I'll take >> Let me keep one extra slide. I was going to tell you. >> So, if you guys recall, I know Drew is most familiar with this and as well as
Chief McGovern. Um, initially what what we had requested initially was adding street signs on the streets. You basically three three aside moving up to depending on what the ordinance is on how many are allowed per side with set times basically saying when you can
and can park. We were requesting those at early morning, during school, the commencement of school and after school. Um, to this date we only have one sign on each side of the street and even with that it hasn't made any difference at all. Um what we and I just spoke with
with uh Mr. York here last night about it is one of the things we'd like to do is get permanent 25 mile or 20 mph signs like on like they have on camp Avenue electronic signs. Um something that was pushed back on last time when we talked about this and then Drew I know you pushed back on this a few times with me
that but all of the residents agreed a permit parking system has to be implemented. You got I invite any one of you to come by at 2:30 any day Monday through Friday and see the chaos that's going on. Someone's going to get hurt. Someone's going to get killed. We have kids street racing. We have kids. Last
year I caught kids smoking pot in front of my house in their car. I caught another couple having sex during the day in their car and then watched them walk back to the schools. Um we just last week TJ Krueger who lives across from me had an altercation with a a student who basically told him to f off when he
moved his garbage can. Um, we're just the situation's unt there's quite a few ideas in here that we came up with. I'm hoping you guys will take the time to take a look at it over the holiday and then we can come back and maybe put our heads together as putting together.
>> I have a question. Are they Are they parking illegally right now? Is this >> They are in Well, they're only allowed to park There was initially signs that said no parking from here to the corner. Then we got a sign I think 50 feet up from that on each side. They're still parking there illegally all the time.
They're also parking, we noticed the last week and a half on top of the leaf piles. So the leaf piles couldn't be picked up >> for the chief. Have we been giving? What's the enforcement look like? >> The stuff that they're parking legal legally where he's talking about the signs. There was about
12 tickets written for that. We had the camera tower out there. There were plates. They were down tickets. There were some given the other day in person. And then we totally require you 800 fire department 500. >> But again, it's such a small area. It's only back from the corner of Bridge Road, maybe 150 ft. That's that goes
just up to the first house and then starts at my house, the second house. The parking issue is going down eight houses to the side down the street. And again, please drive by there on a two around 2:30 and just see what's going on. It's it's really becoming dangerous. >> Has anyone spoken to the scrolls at all?
>> Oh, that's another thing that's in here. We've reached out multiple times. Last year, I reached out with pictures of one of the kids smoking pot in the car, who also told me to go left myself. Sent it to the principal, spoke to the secretary, never sent not got a word back. >> We've reached out we've reached out to the council, we've reached out to the
superintendent, we reached out to the schools, and we were not successful in a response, right? We've been >> Yeah. I mean, we've gotten very basically crickets from them. I mean, listen, I can certainly give Kevin Burke the Burman administrator, a little silver, Paul Demar, and relate his information that it came back before
the governing body and and see maybe if they have another solution for it, you know, is that something >> and it's parking's never been an issue there. >> Parking is not an issue to this day. The issue is when the school was built at 75, they only put an entrance and an
exit on Ridge Road. There's nothing on Harding Road on the on the western side. There's nothing on Anthro on the eastern side. When they did the addition right before CO, they should have put that's the time they should have struck and put one in. Then one of the things that we were discussing, my the neighbors and I over the last few days was those exits
and entries they you can exit left or right on either one. The traffic flow if you come by there in the morning and the afternoon, there's several hundred spots open every day. It's getting in and out. That's why they're parking on our street, on street, on Oxford. If we could somehow get them to agree, aside
from again looking at a permit process, is if we could get them to right turn entry only into the western entrance and right turn exit only out of the eastern entrance, we could create a flow and send them right down Hans Road and home. But as it is right now, they have to have a police officer out there every
day, morning and night, directing traffic. I mean it's it's now it's when it started a few years back right during co when most people didn't want their kids taking buses which is another issue because if you look at their buses every day they leave and they're empty because everyone's still picking their kids up but at that point it was usually a
20-minute wait for the traffic to clear out. It's now 45 to 50 minutes in the it just seemed to be getting worse and worse and worse. >> So there are spots there's just >> there are spots. Yeah, plenty of them. >> It's a circulation. our our commitment right now. We're going to look at this just, you know, give me some time to
digest it. Obviously, I just saw it. >> I know. >> I'm sure the entire governing body will do the same. >> Yeah, >> we do need to connect with the chief obviously um and and see if we can fully understand the issue as enforcement sees
it as well. And then it's a discussion. Um sounds like you're going to reach out to your >> Yeah, I'll reach out to the bar administrator >> and see what we can do. Um, it doesn't sound like it's a great situation right now. >> No, it's not. There's definitely in my opinion and many of our opinions
as well, but there's definitely room for improvements. >> Sir, come on up and state your name and address. >> Thank you. >> Joe 110245's neighbor. I don't have any prepared statements, but I did want to uh reiterate what what Colin mentioned
about um altercations and speeding. Um, I had an I had several altercations. Uh, one of them was a a belligerent student in a a a big car who intentionally, you know, I asked him to beat my my garb cans and he intentionally left and ran
over my cans and a police report was I witnessed it as he witnessed it. He sped over his cant. >> So, police report was fired and that is unlikely. >> Yeah, it wasn't one of our brush cans, was it? Well, in my opinion, >> then you get the full
>> and I had another woman just a few weeks ago run over a can. It was inadvertent, but um still she was >> um by by no means am I putting this on you guys at all when I say this, but do you have videos? I think they'd be helpful. That's what I'm saying.
>> No need to interact. >> There are ring cam >> if you have anything. I would like to see them to get a better understanding also. And you said two and 2:30 is the best time. >> Two to three o'clock is it's basically 2:30 is the witching hour. >> I promise I'll make a
>> It's bad. 2:30. >> 2:30. >> 2:30 is is it's from between 2 and 3, but 2:30 is the time. >> Yeah. >> And the problem the problem is that you know the the people picking up will show up at 2:10. Yeah. >> And sometimes a child won't show up till 3:00.
>> There they'll park. I've had multiple people tell me that I needed to wait to get out of my driveway. Yeah. Till their kid got out of school. >> And one incident just once again to talk about um about incidents was uh I think about two years ago um we were trying to
document the situation. My wife was outside and took a cell phone photo of a car and a license plate. Um and a woman got out of the car and chased her and she ran into the house and locked the door. So this woman came right up to our door banging on her door. totally
improv. So, it's kind of scary when that things like this happen >> and we're asking that we take a fresh look at this >> and implement something that is, you know, not going to impede on the residents. Uh, and be fair to to >> and if I can just re reiterate one more
thing. >> This is new though. Joe and Sue are the oldest residents on the street. My family, the second oldest, they've been there since 82. We've been there since 83. We were always copetic. We didn't have a problem. It was when they added the addition and COVID started that this
all began. We never had a problem when they had a football game or graduation park on the street. Not a problem. Congratulations to your kids. >> This is a completely different animal. It's not it's it's just like I said, please, if you have a chance, >> I'm confused. I'm Is it Is it parents or students or both?
>> Both. You have students who are driving to school who are not parking in the lot. They're parking on our street. There's altercations with them. And then as well right at that time between two and 10 after two all the parents will come and double park across the entire street
8 10 sometimes 12 houses down waiting to pick their kids up because they don't want to go in and deal with the mess of getting out of the Redbank Regional Park and and are they they're in they're in an area now that is designated as no parking during those times no they're allowed to park there again the initial
request from three years ago was to have >> whatever the ordinance needed to be have those signs with just those dead designated times. No student pickup, drop off or parking between this hour in the morning and this hour in the afternoon. It's all it's all documented what I said. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
>> One of the things there state your name and address for the record. >> Kennedy. I live in 244 Cambridge. You know, one of the things I just wanted to make sure you understand too is that we have a a quite a few new families with
young kids that are on that street and these kids are taking off and they're flying down the street now at the end of the day and somebody's going to get hit. You know, it's it's just eventually something's going to happen. >> Maybe I'll be the last one to wrap this
up. >> Hey everybody, I'm TJ Krueger. I live at 250 Cambridge. Um, no offense to my neighbor, but I'm the youngest contingent. I've only been in town for just over two and a half years now. >> And he's a great neighbor. >> I try to be. This is the third school
year that I've, you know, witnessed. Um, and you know, I have young I have three young kids, a 5-year-old, a three-year-old, and a one and a half-year-old. Um, you know, I'm here representing the other young families on the street who couldn't be here tonight, but they're also taking this very seriously. And you know, like I said,
I've been here for 2 and a half years. And I think it was bad when I first moved in, but it's gotten progressively worse every year. And some of the things that I've seen, the disrespect and the lack of safety in terms of driving, are just things that do not belong anywhere
in our town, especially from people who are not a part of our town, especially, right? These are out oftowners who are coming in and treating it like it's not their town, right? They're just doing whatever they want. And that's not the way, you know, we shouldn't allow that where we live. And I would just ask, you
know, I don't want to take up too much time, but I would just ask that you take a look at this from two perspectives. You know, what we can do collaborating with RBR, but also, you know, what we can control, which is our own town and our own street. That is something that we can control. And I think, you know,
the things that Colin has put in his letter, they take it take a look at it from both those angles. What can we do with RVR? But also, what can we do within our own control? So I just ask that you know as you go through this and think about it, you think about it from those two perspectives. Um because I do think we need a solution here. This is
um it's definitely not a tenable solution. >> Yeah. >> Can I just add one more thing here? Um, one thing, Drew, we spoke about probably about a year and a half ago and we I never heard back about it was the fact you weren't aware at that time that it's a county road there and you were going
to look into seeing if there was anything the county could do about improving the safety to make the high school enforce some sort of traffic realignment. So, I don't know if we ever reached out to them or not, but that's that again that in the letter as well, but I just >> it's the same thing. It's the same thing
of communication, right? So, we've been reaching out consistently for three years now and the response. So, Bur Ministry of New York, in addition to Little Silver, reach out to the county. >> Yep. >> Um, >> absolutely. I I'll shoot uh Joey to an email tomorrow as well.
>> Yeah. And and it's really important to kind of keep track. I'm glad put something together because this has been three years, right? We've been taking steps and taking steps and taking steps, but it actually sounds like it's getting worse, right? So, something else has to take place. This is great.
>> Thank you for >> chief. Um I'm just going to throw out also it sounds like there's a winter design of Cambridge coming as part of the street. >> Yeah, >> we've discussed that earlier tonight that we're going to be uh milling and paving that road. And I don't know if
there's anything that can be built into the design as well. If there's if there's any uh suggestions you have, it might be something to share with Rich as well as part of this process. [Music] spice strips. >> Don't want You don't want those. >> You don't.
>> You'll be complaining about the noise like >> uh anyone else? >> I just have one thing. >> Yeah. >> Ralph Kane 200 Old Place. You know, I've been here over 40 years. I worked during the halfacre administration on a sh
tree. Helped write the first ordinance. You gave me schoolings on no trees. We've been working since summer. We have an oak tree that was damaged and pruning. I cons I concerned about my
neighbors. So big limb came down. My neighbors picked it up. Down came. But anyway, I had to take the tree down and I did extensive work. I use Aspen and uh they cleared that. The town has a strong ordinance.
So it took five weeks. I had five trees and I got trees like as I got an oak tree in the front 300 years old. It's cabled. They feed it and it feeds my trees and
aspen extra. They have a resistor graph they put against the trees so they can extra. So, I have all that work done and my neighbors are involved. I'm having extensive uh landscape done. I took a loan deer.
>> Yeah. >> I planted the tree, the town, they c they they guarded it. The deer came. My wife is going out to lunch. Bought dough. Stuck their head in and destroyed the tree. It's sitting on my property to
the limbs of their head. I was going to come here and raise hell. What are you going to do for me? But anyway, I called up my butler at landscape and he came Saturday. He put wire meshes around. They're doing the work now.
But it's a problem. There's ticks. My daughter got a tick. Got Lyme disease. Thousands of dollars. The feces. They drop feces. My wife says, "Go out there. I don't enjoy
picking up pallets, but I came up with the word quality of life. What should I expect from Ben? I've been here. And uh so I went to my neighbors and the one guy there was
putting a a barricade around his yard cuz the kids go out and play with the dog the deer pieces. We got a buck as I came out of my I got the pictures I took tonight with big horns. >> I've seen this penpoint bug.
>> Yeah, he walked by my house. There's another buck with four dough in front of my wife and he I came around the corner. He was I could touch him. I mean, that's danger, >> you know. And uh
something has to be done because I should have I'm retired. I I'm putting this money in my yard. I want to enjoy the birds. And this is what's happening. And and I should say, come here and ask all the people that came out. All my neighbors
got pictures of the dog. We're spending hundreds of dollars and they would there's a solution. Tranquilize the deer and transport them upstate. They did that once. But I'm a foreman.
I would write a check now. I'll give you a couple $400. Cost me $400 the other day. All my my wife's moms had $20. He's all destroyed. Last year, my kids had a
huge mom sitting on the back. We couldn't open the back door. Deer was eating it. She's, you know, so I'm saying it's it goes on and on. If I got a tick, I'm gone.
So, I mean, it's but every day, dear, dear. You know, kids are going to get hurt and uh keep on saying we'll come and there's you have to have a zero tolerance just like we have invasive
weeds, you have the lantern bugs, you have zero to you go for total. You never do total, but you got to have you got to go for total because if you leave two, there's going to be six next year. So, I
got a lot of experience. You could talk to me. I wish you'd come look at my yard, look at the damage, but it's it's to the point of every day. >> So, so thank you for your comments, Ralph. Um, I just want to let you know,
I don't know if you've uh followed along with our meetings the last year, year and a half. We have sort of like I don't want to use the word address the deer problem. We've started to look at the deer problem. Um, there's a process involved. It was recommended to us to do something, but we we wanted more
information. You want to take it? >> Yeah. So, um, I'll add a little bit more to it. Um, we um, the governing body had voted for a, uh, policy help report to be done, which is part of a New Jersey D grant. Um, so we had an entire analysis of the town to determine truly is there
a deer problem or not. Um, we just had the report released to the DPD who approved it last week. Um, the report does show that there is a deer problem in town. Um, I was on correspondence this afternoon with New Jersey D. As far as the next step, I know when the
presentations were done, there was talk about additional funding or whether or not the governing body would want to vote on maybe control the hunt or whether their options are out there. But the first step in order for us to be able to do it was to have this um this far street health report done which is complete. New Jersey DP signed off and
approved on it. So I'm in correspondence with Jim Oxley with New Jersey DP to determine what the next phase is going to be so we can bring it back to the governing body so they can determine you know what the next phase will be if you want to do a controlled hunt or some other option. So >> well you don't need to look you don't
look we'll donate the money. Well, Ralph, Ju, just to to be clear, as part of that process, um, we did have some initial discussions about what some of the options were. I think I recall the tranquilizing and moving them upstate. It was it was it was a non-starter. The
cost of doing that was astronomical. Um, you know, and I I appreciate the offer. Uh, we're not talking $400. We're talking thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars per deer to to get to get that done. Um, you know, it's it's going to be it's definitely going to be a challenging issue. I totally
understand every single component of uh the story that you just told. Um, I'm empathetic to your story as well. I think I think we share some of the same concerns you have with the overpopulation of deer in the burrow. One concern that I had originally, which
I still have, is um you know, deer seem to go where the food is, where the space is, and um it doesn't sound as if in talking to the other mayors of the other towns that they have an appetite for doing what we may have to do, which
means we might just be creating space for the other town's deer to migrate fair. So, it's something we're going to look at and we're going to look at it very thoughtfully. Obviously, um once we get to the point of being ready to do so and I encourage you to come back and and
um you know, if if there's a component of that plan that you feel strongly about, please share with us. Uh that's that's really all I have for you right now other than say that we are working on it. It's not it's not just an issue though where we could snap our fingers and there's just no deer and fairy. I
mean, it's going to be >> Did my wife hit one already? >> Sure. We had a member of council whose car was total. I mean, uh, >> we understand the issue. >> You know, I go down River Road, one was hit, came right up to my car at dusk. I know all the areas they go, but >> it's a safety issue for sure. We had,
um, last year I was the liazison for Environmental Commission, Shade Tree, and Natural Area. And usually, not usually, a a common stereotype would be that that the green groups might be against this, but all three groups, well, all three groups discussed it and
came to a conclusion. I believe they all three passed resolutions. They would be in support of reducing the deer population, I think, including the hunt. So, we have we have the green groups are are supporting it at least as of last year. I don't know if that's changed this year. And I agree with you. I I I you can't get the green my daughter's
one. All right. >> Well, >> I don't I can't discuss anything. She feeds them. >> So, you can't get the green groups involved because she doesn't have it. >> I'm saying that they support they support what you're saying. >> Yeah. But so because they understand it
it kills the trees, it it hurts other caterpillars and other wildlife >> and so they are very much on board. >> Um and so that's good and that that gives um I think a lot of support for the idea.
>> I'll just for you so you know because we've we've all taken a deep interest in how to go about solving this. There isn't a perfect response plan um but it is a public safety issue. is a public health issue and is a matter of public
welfare. These are the the real legal basis on which legislative bodies act. So we know some steps are probably in the future and um the D guidance says there isn't really a perfect strategy. There's just a get started strategy. So
we still have a little bit more homework to do. But we understand how >> well it's understanding but it's it's It doesn't go away. >> It's destroying your land. Every house you're destroying. >> I got bushes.
>> You They're all eating through. I I You know, it's just every and I'm a small property, but it's not thousands of dollars. >> Have you reached out to the Ruckers Cooperative Extension for some guidance
in terms of >> I I work with Ruckers. Right. >> That there's some there are some strategies. They're not perfect. >> I got this. You go to Harvey's right now. Order sprays done. I got spray. I got uh
pellets to put down. But you got to be, you know, >> they're raising. Ralph, I'm going to reiterate. Um we we totally understand the issue. Um, and we have I appreciate the advention. I sometimes even me I
wish government would move faster than it does. In this situation, I think we're moving as fast as we can. And uh I gave a commitment to the Cambridge um residents. I give the same commitment to you that um we're going to we're going to look at this and we're going to make the best decision for the residents of
the Burough Fair Haven as quickly as we can. >> Yeah. I just don't want to see anybody injured. You know how >> I totally I totally agree. Got those horns on for shelf. >> Yep. >> All right. Well, appreciate your time. Thank you. >> Great. Thank you for coming, Rob. Uh, anyone else go to the burrow?
>> Allison, >> I have Susan O'Reilly. >> Hey, Susan. I'll be >> uh I have two thoughts are actually uh one question and a and a comment about
the um streets opposite Redbank Regional. I think that you should just close them like you do Third Street when um school is opening and at dismissal time. Everybody but Ruckers can get to their house a different way. just put up
the uh barricades. >> You can try it. >> You said you said the second thing, Susan. >> Uh I wanted to know townwide what was the percentage increase in the assessments? >> Nancy, do you know that or No,
>> I did not. >> Can we get back to you on that, Susan? I know I got my postcard this week >> and and mine's still at the post office so I don't know. I wanted to get prepared before I saw my assessment.
>> Susan Susan, if you want to send me an email tomorrow, I'll get that information. >> Okay. And I I understand that there can be some adjustment with appeals and everything, but I I want to know right now where it stands.
>> I just I didn't hear that. Sorry, student. >> She wants to know where it stands for assessment. Oh, you're going to email Chris. >> Yeah, if you send me an email tomorrow, I'll I'll get that information. >> Okay, I'll send you one now. >> Great. Thank you. >> Now, go and join. >> I'm thinking
>> do not even think about your assessment for the next however many whatever days that enjoy it. >> I thank you. >> Anyone else? Go to the burrow. Alison. >> Chris. Yep. So, uh just one thing just
to follow up. Um back when we were meeting at Bsentennial Hall several months ago, we had a um topic on for the governing body about which road to apply for the next uh NJ DOT grant. The governing body had um went with Popppler. Um we did receive that
funding. Uh NJ do um awarded us 22,867 and the engineers estimate that project is 460,000. So, so a little little less than half of it will be paid for with NJ doc grant money. >> Four for four bars one phase two for
popler. >> Keep them coming. Good work. >> All right. Uh we're going to move towards to German. The next council meeting is Monday, December 15th. It's in person only. Just mention that again. It's in person only cuz we're going to
have it at our brand new Fair Haven Community Center at 35 Fifth Street. Allison specifically requested to have it there. That's Betsy. You know that was you. Um and we will see you on the 15th for our
last council meeting of the year. Uh we're going to move to adjournment at 8:02 p.m. Do I have a motion? So >> second. >> All in favor? I >> is anyone opposed? >> Thanks.