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adequate notice with adequate notice having been given, the burough clerk is directed to include this statement in the minutes of this meeting. Um, Miss Alison, did I please have a roll call? Council members call
Miss here. H Olson here. We have administrator York, Lieutenant Soil, Lieutenant Schneider, CFO Britain, engineer, and DP. Uh, thank you. Uh, we are starting off
uh with public hearings. Um, and I'm going to get to a uh an introduction a little bit later as well, but I just wanted to mention very briefly that um you know, achieve more better. Obviously, it's my uh this is our mayor
for today, the Baron. Uh we had her in Tur Hall earlier today. She met with all the department heads and she even got a a behind thescenes VIP tour um along with her brother of the new police
station. What do you think? Is it pretty cool? and she might have gone in the jail cell, but we're not going to talk about that. Um, we're starting off we we are going to talk about proposed grant applications, right? And the first one
is uh the fiscal year 2026 Mammoth County Development Block Grant. That's going to be followed by the 2025 Mammoth County Park system municipal open space grant. And with us is federal engineer.
It didn't end. So last meeting we came to you we spoke at workshop about three grants two of which your local public the first is the community development that's uh signature count money
uh ADA type improvement work very similar just finished that grandf on that. So this year we are hoping to submit for rural improvements
to the bathrooms from an ADA standpoint and also some improvements that get around outside facility and some of the ramps parking things that the grand amount is close to
200,000. So as we had mentioned prior meeting will be submitted for that full amount. We did have a kickoff meeting with staff at county
criteria. So that's obvious submission. So today purpose is really just it's a public hearing. It's a chance for the public to weigh in and ask questions about the project. We don't have any um design
plans at this point in time because it's the existing B there doing that standards for APA the cost estimate that will be generated that will be submitted for the application will be the account.
So obviously submitting full amount um in anticipation getting almost that our team is internally staff together narratives and all the requirements.
So, like I said, that's tonight's purpose. It's a somewhat of a brief open discussion about the project. You're going to answer any questions and kind of walk me through. Yeah. Just I just want to add for the record. I know you touched upon it the last meeting. Um
what we did at the conference with county regarding development block did check see if there were any other locations that would have been eligible here in fair haven um are deciding on roll um because we have done no ADA
upgrades to buildings and there no other ADA upgrades that fit the requirements for all site and complex is the only helpful site for this ramp. Um so that's why we are
chasing all also important to know too um be proud or not but uh our bag I know it was built 1963 these are the original two bags to the tea except to put a paint on it earlier but they are
building in those And just for my knowledge, concession standards, was that looked at? Concession stand was not not it has to be a shared doesn't have it
doesn't have to be a shared but because that building has it has access. It's not restricted building does have restricted access to it. um allows to be required or or eligible for
the So there's no other there's no other use for this grant in the burough period is what I'm hearing right and we're we're targeting $200,000 of free improvements to correctly before I guess I don't think
there's much more to talk about from where I'm at is another week. Um you're going to be doing some upgrades and Rich can touch on that as well. Some upgrades some as well. So for example here at um
all development block we uh put a new ADA in as well is as well. Um, so this grant will be open to update our ADA as possible. Maybe
I not for um not for this. Will will there be improvements of ADA access on the side there? It looks like it is that standard elevator.
the the main store all the bathroom work. So outside of the island on the back side. Awesome. Do we need a vote of any time
on this? Yeah. All in favor motion. Motion to approve. All in favor? I thank you. Next the next one up from any Marty couple.
Well, it's not listed on here. Alison, is there anyone in the public has a comment on this? Is there anyone on Zoom? [Music] Nobody has their hand. Okay. Thank you,
Rich. Can we move on to 2025 Park System Municipal Open Space Grant? I'm assuming this is the same type, Alison. Yes. Thank you. So it's
not so far. We are looking to submit an application for the 213. So since our last meeting we had a
workshop we obviously had series of open houses. We've had some regards to success other this is a very early stage concept plan. It
captures a lot of what we talked about at these meetings and some of them duties and we also then assemble a list of hey it associated
so what I do is to walk and and those of you obviously know the site it's fair it's adjacent to also adjacent to the east. It is one of
the properties but it is sustained damage and it's pretty much since and resolution for authorization for the demolition and stabilization portion of
this project which was part of the phase before the acquisition. This is obviously now the second phase that's related to the improvements. So once again 10,000 K looking down at the property.
One of the main focus is stabilization. We're looking at doing combination of the two whether it's a whole head living shoreline and then obviously we have this beach that run along the the foot
there and kind of migrates into this property. So there is a opportunity to kind of tie all these things together organically and kind of come up with a hybrid of design. So that's what I've
shown on this film. you haven't taken too. You've got a bulkheaded marina to your east, you got a bulkheaded uh dock area and obviously the fair road. So that kind of discusses what we're looking at
and shorter looking for asphalt area. So right now's lane it kind of dives down towards the top.
Parking is prohibited on both sides. It is kind of challenging from a drop off standpoint because it's narrow and doesn't provide muchability in a vehicle. So what I've done is pull
that street line up towards fair. turn that into green space and once again take an opportunity of that real estate to create an OEM and pathway down to the dot. Uh if I show a rainy bar, I show some small weather management
additional green space. um you know biomention type infrastructure those types of things because right now the water comes down to a road and if she flows down and ties in that dot then
dischar erosion stoves that and the there's movements or really have to type in nature. Um the idea of putting a pavilion, you know, having some type of small shelter
in place that'll create a focus point within the park, but also something that's useful. Pass them kind of up to that strength in whether it's picnic tables, pattern chairs,
uh benches, kind of creating this creative dislike. walkway to kind of give it like a riverw walk feel but but not that urban type design very passive in nature
um landscape bring in some additional trees like I said oh we're providing beach access you know once again if you carry a kayak down then you have you know an
opportunity to bring it to the beach. We have a goal ramping it in adopt by additional opportunity. Um and then other just various improvements like expanding the security camera system. We're going to be putting
one down soon, right? And you know any electrical, lighting, things like that which should be irrigation. So all these items are in the the uh in the cost of estimations. The grant is
less than a million dollar. Basically uh they give you they give you 500 you spend 500. So $2 million all this items on here. Um basically
from a constructility standpoint yes the info and like I said the the concept plan is is concept in nature it's for purposes of submitting this grant and would then get
engineered and find if and when we get you ready for question yeah so um first I just want to make sure because I think I know it's a concept post this isn't necessarily the plan itself Are we we're going to be asking for the
full million dollars soon, right? Um in this situation, would the film would the full million dollars cover this concept? I'm just curious as to cost in general of what we're talking about the estimate
of the quantities with prices and that but that covers everything on here including lighting, including taking the road away. I show it's hard to see some like style ceiling. There's some take advantage of
try to kind of use the natural contour in the land that and and the living shoreline pointed out here which I think is exciting probably for a lot of people in the burrow because it's something that's been talked about for a while. Is it a living shoreline working up into
sort of like what Victory Park has like a half bulkhead or is it just a living shoreline? Right now in the concept in the concept plan we show a bulkhead they live in shoreline and there's a number of properties along
that same style. Do you have a natural style area and then it grasp in some places they even have a nice little fence walkway
good option and one of the primary drivers right this was one of two places that flooded during Sandy right in town so erosion and protection of that was a practicality that had to ground the concept plan. Exposure
peninsula where further east like towards the area they have no protection because the land kind of meanders around so you don't get that
wave that could potentially live from here. Um the the only other comment I've had and I I realize the topography at the actual site dictates some of what you do, but the amphitheater is kind of facing
away from where the sun sets. I'm just mentioning I'm not sure if that's something that can be changed. I think a lot of people go down there and for purposes of this I kind of show the existing houses. see the outline. Yep. Just
to get an idea that put together question [Music] to the family. Yeah. And then when you
speak authoration of time between that going out and when they will actually see a recommendation to do that so there's a few few timelines and absolutely submit the grant they've been making award I guess around November
just refer to looks like called referring to the um site stabilization the uh the down I am okay that's what you're referring to so um so we're just going to talk a bit about that we um
our engineering consult just submitted draft plan draft uh did specifications and drawings for that project we had asked I had recommended put on for next meeting
So we anticipate bing within the next couple weeks and then that's my question when is it like 30day turnaround but how soon will we have those numbers? Um we bid for a minimum of 10 days for public contracts. So
typically I hold to that. Okay. So you you know usually 10 to 15 days. After that we'll know how much fun. Okay. based on review the intern that will only take the important thing
on that question. Warm weather just got here. Please don't rush it away. Nancy has something has something to say. So just to comment on the availability of our matching funds because we know
the amount doesn't mean that we can certify that 100% is available items or changing orders that may come up with that. So guys, just a followup. So let's say there was 100 bucks.
Do do we account for $120 just in case for potential runaway change orders like percent? Perfect. Okay, those are my questions. Thank you.
I have a couple questions. Um, you explained the living shoreline and bulkhead and I'm not as familiar of doing both. I kind of know either either either or but in your research having the living shoreline or the bulkhead behind the living shoreline is the best way to go like for the entire length of
it or looks like the living shoreline's kind of half of it in your estimation. So it's this particular parcel um historically had an open whether it was concrete or timber it's a combination of both. It also has an area of beach that
kind of vibrates in the west off of our dot and during uh extremely low tides we may not even get the beach down by the marina side. So the thought is well we need to stabilize
that and bulkhead is obviously you know an engineering standpoint and then the other piece of it as you move grass on the property gives you an opportunity to to introduce a little shorine so you don't feel like a living
shoreline is would hold hold enough there would be stabil will stabilize it enough is that kind of what you're saying I think what would happen from like engineering design on this but conceptually looking at an elevation
there's property I think the living shoreline is going to be into a lot of existing property after we constructed way back to be effective for that entire frontage all if we were
going to go all the way so you're saying to get enough beach kind of or to get to effect shoreline that would remain stabilized like that would just stay on nor eastern you don't want to build
something have it break down so um the land obviously comes down and then if it flattens out I think a lot of a lot of that flatter area you have to put in like a 50 foot little number but say a pretty good wide the buffer area
living shore life really get it established Yes. So I wanted to just if I may on this one because I appreciate your questions and council you are watch the advisory committee was asking questions you know alone so is the
public by the way um but we all agree you without Q win like right now that there's need for more full analysis that'll help the governing body to determine um what is the proper stabilization
emerges together civil engineering got a background. So there might be an added layer of assessment that further yeah the ultra deadline and I know this is helpful for the application but and it answers a lot
of the questions but not all and I think it's important to show both okay and letting shore line so that work it's much harder to look back and say, "Oh, now they decide they want
to mention bulkhead by the way it's going to cost this much." They say, "No, let's not." Yeah, if you remember the last filming now process my only other question's question is we had originally discussed
that if we ever did do a living shoreline at this property we would get um you know the pricing and power of eventually going to Normandy at the same time. How does the grant affect that scenario? I'm assuming we can't apply
for the money at the Normandy as part of this grant. It's a separate parcel. Are the last tal can you add an addendum within the bid specs? Like a denim A could be D
Normandy bulkheading and we would be able to fund Nancy the main part of the bid which is the grant and then have a denim A and fund it separately. Does it work that way? Got it. Check. Check. But from the first time
and the other on that then there's a good chance the contractor will see that there are both sites at the same time give you and then you don't have to accept if you don't like the pricing on the lawn you don't have to accept.
Okay. Can I just I just have a couple things. So that that was kind of where I was going. Council wind and did you mention that we will have like a separate engineer come in after that's kind of like the next step? Did I hear you say that? So conceptually
totally I just want to make sure okay that's what I just want to make sure. Yep. And then just out of curiosity what is the path made out of? Is it cement? Is it bricks? Oh, it's brick. Okay. 21
district. Okay. I like that. Those are my questions. Um, just a few things, Rich. Really nice work. Um, to level set just data points and whatnot. So all of the open houses,
uh, council meetings, committee boards, all of that feedback was centralized and identified the concept, plan components as of today from resident engagement, leaison feedback, etc. And there was a report put together to support that. Um, the governing body members all have
access to the SharePoint site where all the documents are. There's there's 20 plus documents that ground the regulatory and compliance. There's 20 plus documents on all the feedback. All of it's there for digestion availability. So that's kind of what
helps to facilitate some of the initial um thought behind the concept plan. Two key next steps between concept and design. um obviously is getting the grant um but beyond that is uh traffic and parking analysis um in that area which is critical and bringing in an
expert for that and then the environmental and landscape um uh aspects especially given where it is. So what the governing body approved back in March was bringing in those two professionals to help provide the additional analysis, the additional
technical specs that are required to inform. Um and then once we do have a updated design, then we would go back and do additional open houses feedback and follow the same process that we did with facilities, brush and leaf, trash and recycling. Um allowing resident
feedback to drive where it ultimately gets refined to. Um so quick background on the concept plan components everybody has access to all the information and then quick level set on kind of next steps between concept and design. Thanks
very um before I ask for a vote if everyone in the public do any comments on this. Is there anyone online that has anyone any comment on those? Is there a motion to approve? Motion. Second.
All in favor? I thank you. All right. Uh, we're moving to public comment on agenda items only. Please observe a three minute time limit. Please state your name and address for the record. Is there anyone in the public with a public
comment on agenda items only? Allison. No. Thank you. Approval regular view. Do I have motion to approve? Motion. Second.
Alison may have pass. Yes. Can you? Yes. Yes. H. Yes. Yes. Good. Thank you. We're now on to all business hearing adoption of
ordinances. We're on 2025-11 to amend chapter 7-39.1 the festival park space eater Avenue right out front. I do have a motion to open. Motion second. All in favor? I. Anyone opposed?
Anyone up here having a public want to discuss this? Allison, anyone online? No. A motion to close. Motion. All in favor. Anyone opposed? Do we have somebody who's motion? Motion
to adopt 2025-11. Second council member. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Permanent. Awesome.
Um, thank you. Uh, next up is new business, the consent agenda. We're talking about resolutions 2025-181 through 193 before I ask for a motion to approve. Is there anyone that has anything up here?
Uh, just uh one comment of kudos, Chris, Nick. Uh, thank you both. Uh, the first one on here is getting our, uh, fleet manager and our fleet mechanic. It's a huge win. So, many thanks to both of you, uh, for that.
Yeah, I'd like to separate 2025 184. Okay. So, right now we're talking about resolutions 2025, 181, 183, and then 185 through 193. Um, do I
have a motion to approve those? Motion. Second. May I please have a local council mess call? Yes, you miss. Yes, affirmative. Thank you. Councilwoman Demachelli, do you want discussion or is this a
separate vote? Discussion for just kind of questions a little bit. So, I absolutely support the money going towards Popular Avenue. My concern is that it's a pretty big flooded street that floods. And so if we're going to reurface and do sidewalks and all that
stuff, I think that we need to address the drainage issues before we commit to paving or commit to but then have some kind of have a plan to address because they're one of the streets that has been flooding. It's my understanding usually when we do these workshops that that's
part of the road. So would that be like the storm water management looking at the pipe like solar pipes forward? So that was the plan was to address that at the same time that we're doing. Okay. Okay. Then then I'm okay with I
just want to make sure. Uh so council Michelle do you want to make a motion motion 2025 184 second uh Council member, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Perfect. Thank you. Uh, next up is department reports May 2025, police department and the municipal court. And do I have a motion to accept Kristen?
Yeah. Thank you. All in favor? I Okay, so we're at the Guro portion meeting before I ask the public for good. Um, few things I want to get through here.
uh on mayor for the dead came very very prepared today and she brought into my meeting um mayoral executive orders for 2025.
The gal has her name on it and it's in front of candy kittens and puppies which is pretty much the coolest thing ever. I think we should have more candies, kittens. We're gonna alternate. Um there's there's 10 executive orders she's speaking here. We're going to
alternate nine. Oh, you you don't want that one more. I I think you should stick with that one. I like that one. You sure? So, we're gonna we're gonna alternate on the nine of them. We're going to read them so so they're on the record so everyone understands. And Mayor Delaney
when she puts the out there, she delivers. Right. All right. So, you want to read number one? overhead roofs on the softball field dugouts. I think that's roofs. I think that's a good idea, right? Uh the next one, number two. I think we should have
a townwide fish tank near the fair and do the rich. I didn't see that. Wow, that is close. Number three, I think I'm just too I totally agree with that.
should be more colorful, right? The neutral colors are boring. Um, number four, I think that we should have a party at the beginning of summer that signals to all the kids that school is out, right?
I think we have a a section of ter so all the dogs in the town they have belly and what a what a great idea and that's actually an idea that comes to me a lot and um just I think that was so thoughtful of you and I love the name Birdy's belly rugs do you have a dog
named Birdie that's what I figured it's not um next up we should have a seafood restaurant on the fair haven didn't die. And we discussed today some of her favorite restaurants that she eats at as
well. Right. The next one's not going to happen. I'm letting you know. She had a zipline in terms having a heart attack. This one I actually love uh very much. We should have a fountain in the middle
of our town. Wouldn't that be lovely? Right. Yep. And this one's for the chief. But the chief's not here, but Lieutenant, so he's going to listen to this one. We should close our section of River Road when Santa comes, so no one gets hurt.
Right. So I I think she did a fantastic job and uh so did the entire governing body. So, as a token of our appreciation, um we all signed this lady, right? This used
to hang on River Road. It was from our centennial, which I believe was 2012, I think, was the date. And it's signed by all of us up here. And you're going to get to take this home with you today and hang it on your wall for as long as you
want. Okay. The lady did an amazing job today. Um, I've never had so many questions personally, but also every staff member she spoke to. She brought a lot of energy to Burough Hall today, the police
department, and uh, you know, thank you for sharing her with us. But we love doing it. Um, we are still in the burrow. So, I'm sure there might be some people here. If you haven't been to the burrow comment, please stand and identify yourself by saying your name
and address for your record. And then what they refer and set up 3/4 with now back was going to be
and I was at one when it changed. So me and my neighbors are all kinds of didn't move it somewhere where it wouldn't be in my account. So like
my house and his son said, "Dad, please stay back." PL um why wasn't infantry location where defense why is a defense on three side and not on the island
and I just we're just curious why they didn't move the or defense any so you still You're done. Oh, so I don't remember the exact timeline obviously because we had
a lot of meetings about this, but I do recall a discussion about the front of the fence. The recommendation to us was if you put it too high, you're now looking like a prison um type scenario. The question I have for you is the not landscaping that's in front of that
that's going to grow and mature. And you've been in that five years. Yes. five years from there. So, that's something we are addressing as far as the trees themselves and I'm sure they'll follow up on that. But, yeah, I mean, we're the idea that we're
going to move the gas tank bed to another area from a financial fiscal sense. I could have the burough engineer kind of talk about it. wouldn't make sense for but 500 gallons to 2,000 gall
[Music] was 6,000 gallons 4,000 at 2,000 previously and went d it's reintegrated same capacity but it's it's now dual chain over time
like it's breaking higher than the other one was The other one was 4,000 gallons. The other was 10 was six foot. You're you're correct. Yes, you're correct. Yeah. 100%. All I see is three foot gas tanks
coming up and I was told that trees in front but we were told there was 8 foot fence. It was never it just took it was never an 8ft fence in the front because of the gate. And I I can go back I I personally met with the residents on Allen. It's always been six on Allen
Street because we had practicalities with the 45 ft swing gates that have to go in. So, it's always been six. What we did after we confirmed it was six with the fuel tank, we actually changed the type of tree. And what I'm told is is they're green giants. And within 12 to
18 months is when you will start to see more of the landscaping that was put in place than the tank. That was the year. Why not put fence all the way around and having trees grow fence and it's not going to look like your Christmas long
tree to grow like you're saying the trees are going to cover it, it would cover the fence, too. Totally. And if it was onedimensional, totally get it. I'm full agreement. It's when you apply the other practicalities what had to do with the type of swing gate, how much mechanical was required. Help me out here, Rich. I'm not going into all the
technical details. And then also the design of the way that the entrances look and so we worked very closely with with Allen Street specifically. Okay. So that's appreciate that. Yeah. So where that came and that changes
because I know sh Yeah. without understanding. Now I have to look at a three-foot gas tank which I never saw before within but now with a silence standing back
which for my resale value is not going to be good. So it's like why won't the proposal to move it to somewhere where it's not it's too cost prohibitive to move it. It's cost prohibitive. I do just want to I do want to make it clear.
I'm not minimizing your concern because I think it's a real concern, but the landscaping is going to grow and the you're just talking about one singular issue. The entire site is much better looking than the piece of wood before. Exactly. We put a lot of money almost to
the point where today you can attest to I got upset when I saw a bill when we're discussing sprinkles for landscaping because I felt we were put in too much landscaping and now we have to put in sprinkles for landscaping. So we've invested a lot of dollars to try and
beautify an area which isn't it is a DPW and it's you know and and that and that landscape is going to mature and it is and if it does die grounds we're going to put something else new in there. It's not like we're just going to let it die and say sorry Joe you know
construction warehouse that doesn't I and my point is that you should put a foot fence and one wide fence because now you have a two foot fence line on the side and it's two feet down and then it's two six feet all the way across the
top. How how high was the fence before? I think it was actually higher. It was six. I mean the reason I know that is because I was not good. I was at the council meeting. This is well before I was mayor when everyone lost their mind on every every street. It used to be
eight, I think, everywhere around the entire three. No, it was eight. Originally eight. And when they switched it, they when they replaced the entire fence, they went to they went to six. So, you know, it's been six in the front of that lot since
I can remember. At least six. Again, I I can't speak to Frank. I can't I really, you know, as far as when I'm dealing with the same capacity, you know, the burough does make decisions in the best interest of the burough area. And I think that when you
think about the landscape and the fact that it's going to mature at the end of the day, you're going to have the best of both worlds in every situation. And I do have one question for which the sign that he can see from his I don't know if it's oriented just
read where the community does jump out at the landscape. So it can be oriented or just a site instead of just does it have to face the correction for like some safety or um they need to look at we can take a look
at part of that tank that intent. I'm not sure. We can look at it. But yeah, we knew that they tank and it was going to be 3 ft high then a concern. But then all a sudden the tank in like
well they got they put here it's going to cover the seat and then they put six foot and now like now I got to deal with this every day and nobody told us that they were going to put a blue tank that's going to be three foot higher than the fence which makes no sense. I understand it's cost effective for but I
don't want to see it. Anybody who wants to buy a house is not going to want to see it. So to me it's like we we think I can't speak for everyone. I should say I think that at the end of the day with the material landscaping
um the value my personal opinion and I think that we've done a significant investment the entire area to beautify and every situation would be perfect. I'm not saying it is a goal and I and I have not been in years of playing. I'm just
telling you, you know, the way that I look at this is when that when that stated gets higher, they'll take a look at that sign. I think I think if anything or 8 foot 8 foot away from gate and change and then the feedback I remember
from the presentation, I'm not the expert presenting 8ft fence in the front, not being able to see anything inside the DTW whatsoever. It makes it look like a thought. We put just around there's ballards there's ballards
around. So you have to have ballards in order from a safety security perspective. So it have to be beyond that and then you start to eat into the pathway where the trucks have to fuel. course right
[Music] we we'll take a look at you know we don't not want to improve it um but at the same time you have to be practical with the fact that it's a you know operational department
it's the the foot of a gas tank that we have standing out right across from Get him a bigger tree. Get him a bigger tree. We're not at Target right. We're going to take a look at we'll
figure it out. So my other my other I addition of storm water already my property. So the picture is when I raise some house. So my neighbor behind the house put a a retaining wall around my
swing set and at one point it's something 18 and 24 high on the side it's 12 in. But when he put this now all water from his drains which face towards my property which his foot his house is a foot and a half higher than the back
of my property. Everything comes this way. So my um drive well the back of my property accepts all their water that's coming into this right and my drive well which is the back has to go through the drains
then go to the back and it's full and now all the water is coming out and it's eroding my whole it's it's our fixed and it's already now an inch and a half over a year and a half and
this is the door you put it before and I said he's allowed to do that. The thing is huge. I send the pictures of what it looks like and it's come to the point that like now like it's bad like every time
I have to be home and I brought this up what I said 18 in um now they just redid the whole house. So my question is when
you file for a car expires, do you have to refile for a new before you go? Yes. Yes. So this was a technical in
this particular matter who neighbores got the rules went through that whole damage process. uh get permits and they start work. I'm not aware of any technicality.
[Music] So I ask you for me. So So let me just jump in because recent will be accidentally rid of the burrow isn't necessarily a humanity and I also
don't want us to have to take a position on something we're not informed on but I'm hearing you and I hear the frustration in the situation. So why don't you email the details that Chris Yeah. Yeah. I just I'll add a little bit more to it. Um and we have also met
about that. I had the information. Um Rich and I had a recent conference tour discussing this matter. Um I know has reached out to the neighborhood and um we have been in contact as well.
This is a matter that needs to be investigated by law by having well the only I can add is um we are in the process of setting up meeting with with your in the back
I had an email obviously not been in the house. Yeah. over the past. So that's why I see those make sure guys I don't think is
okay. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else from the public? Mr. 603rd Street. I talked to you. Um, I just want to say you guys did the same job. That was my neighbor. So, defense
is a concern. Um, my question is I want to know the How do you keep the leather of the fence short? So, how do you keep the security
of the kids or anybody talking to all over to get into the public works? If something was to happen, what before it was hired, correct? Nobody. It was hired, let's say, um close to 10
years ago, but most recently it was six foot. Correct. Pre Sandy it was 8 foot and then in Sandy the most of the fence blew down and they replaced it with six foot and that's why the gate always looked mismatched if if you remember the gates before they took him away correct
so for the last I forget when Sandy was 12 right so for 13 years ago yes it was 8 foot but 13 years ago somebody said the fence was smoother it didn't have where you can line.
Yeah. Yeah. So, the current fence is built is board on board. No, I'll answer that. It's not really cool. Okay. I'll confirm that for you. Um, but also from the other standpoint from the security side, we don't also
want to let people know exactly where the cameras are going. That gives them opportunities to try and do things outside the view of the cameras. I will confirm offline with you so you're aware. No, I mean every%
my other main concern I've talked to you in public across the street from me to landscaping. Is it finished in that part? Because it not yet and the landscaping companies you guys hire.
They was on break and it was over. I don't know. And I'm not telling all but it is what it is. Yeah. I've been there. I've been there a long time and I just feel looked at that landscape and how they put everything in one pile and
everything in another pile. The apple side looks nice. Even though some of the trees are over that they're going to grow over, but the park side has anybody actually walk through that
to look at the shoot. You guys pay for beautiful bushes, plants. Yeah. Why do they put everything in? They didn't spread out the design. Maybe they spread different levels out like
probably just too much landscaping, but the Maple Avenue people think the Allen Street landscaping was great. The Allen Street people think that the um Well, I'm a Third Street. Third Street third street landscape was great and Third Street people think that the Maple
Avenue is great. So we all street always have better. Yeah. Yeah, good to meet you. Can I answer your question? So, um, the way that it was installed was how it was designed. We had the landscape architect who designed it work side by side with
the landscaper. They actually changed some of the plants as we were getting feedback from the residents with the fuel tanks was one of them to make it higher. There was some other feedback on the other side. So, it was done to design and there was the professional who designed it out there while they were doing it. Um, coming back to the uh
the safety question on the fence, the the I'll always defer to the police on safety, but the reason board on board was selected separate from resident feedback on Allen Street and Maple was because the previous fence was smooth. I don't know how else to call it, right?
It was flash and and what and what happened was that when in extreme instances of wind, it actually damaged the fence. So what the recommendation was from the design professionals was you want board on board because board on board allows wind to pass through and we didn't want to create a scenario where
the fence was failing quicker than than it should be based on what we paid. So I just wanted to give you the data points but you got it's not done. Yeah. Correct. So the plan is is it's a specific type of seed and I can't
remember four lens. It was never it wasn't finished. So what we needed to wait to happen was the fence to be done because we didn't want to add in additional components while the fence wasn't being finished. Fences that's my next concern. Yep. So the
fence um and I can talk offline mayor if you want those. Um, so what's left with the fences is to install the two main gates where the entrance and exit is and to install three other smaller gates. One for the recycling center and then there's two on the Maple Avenue side.
Both have been done in June. Yep. And now that the kids are out of school, that's another concern. You may talk to couple people downtown. Seen a couple kids try to get in trouble. Yep. I'm I'm tired, you know. I know the town. I'm all for it. I'm not
complaining. My concern is about the kids 100%. I'm tired of calling. I have a right to sit in my home wherever I want. I'm not nosy. I live there. Unfortunately, it's right in front of me. I got to hear that. Yeah. Boom. Boom. Smashing cardboard. You jump. You
can't even lay down. I understand everything's in progress. My main question is how much longer? Is it another month? Is it all summer? Who got the answer to it? Finish the fence. The guy did like two people put that fence up. He he you know Mike did a great job. Yeah. Um I'll get you an answer. Let me
talk to confirm when the fence is going to be installed. The last remaining piece are the gates and then to finish the landscaping. So those are the only two things remaining for the project to be officially done. So yes, you guys will put like a vinyl
like my backyard like a piece of vinyl that just covers the facing of the gas tank. We know that the police department without a polling house got to get gas. You can't have it that we can't see it like this. I can bring it back to the professor. I think that we look into it.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. If we can if we can do something that's reasonable, we're going to do it. We don't you know I I think we've shown the entire job of realize it was beyond. You didn't see people. No, you you saw
the exhaust pipes and there was a light that was over top of it. We removed the light because we were told on Allen Street that it was an obstruction having the light bleed over. Right. At the public is it that there's a problem working in
That's the panel, right? The panel. There's a uh it fried. Yeah. an alarm about float inside the tent and the clothes been getting stuck or there was some problem with electronics that was yeah came to meet the doc I've been calling downtown and I know they know me
um but my last name concern across the street from me going into the park has anybody walked in that park I've seen two kids fall and everything because of the frames he's driving it's part of you
are 100% Correct. And part one when part of the PD community center is to finish it's they call it restoration. So the contractor used the entrance and part of it is just to fix all that. We're working with where the guard park at if somebody
if the kid is coming out that car the garbage truck parked there. So it's blindsided. That's the entrance to the park. People even park. There should be like a like a parking. I don't know how town when they have baseball, how they
have events and they don't have a sign that says no parking in the entrance of the park. Cars just park right there. They're not going to have the opportunity to park there for much longer. We're on it. We're definitely going to And we're also going to have the contractor take a look and make sure
it's not a safety issue even before they restore that area. Yeah. Too bad. And I know they have to cut through and do what? Yeah. Appreciate it. I think I think our joke was about covering that
fence. Okay. And we'll follow up on the cameras offline. Y and then remove all that concrete. At one point they somebody asks there
can the gas tank was left and then there was always a foundation there. I don't know. It's like rolling a gas tank like to the left. We didn't know. We didn't know the slab was there until we started digging.
There was no mention of it. And also in that scenario, then we would have had kept the DPW site as large as it was. And one of the design considerations was to shrink the site to make it less of an industrial site into the residential area.
Sure. Okay. Yeah, understood. Anyone else? [Music] And Shannon only 63 Maple Avenue down. Um I'm just here to talk about my
concerns about the redevelopment of the fiscal parking lot. Um we talked to Chris and Drew on last week. Um and Our overall concerns are safety concerns for the parking lot. Um we're disappointed
in the fact I know this has been throughout time this has been discussed. Um looking across the street from it we you know watch how riders come together. That's great. Um but we were never aware that a the town
bought the parking lot um and b what the plans were for the parking lot. Um you know your neighbor gets asked for variance in the house and get some sort of certified mail or something about it. Um, and all up and down our street, none
of our neighbors have been informed about what was going on. Um, it was really brought to our attention last week when the trees started coming down and when the trees started coming down, that's when they reached out. These guys were great. They didn't met us outside and let us know what was going on. Um,
and our first concern was just, you know, our first disappointment was that it was going to be paved and and you know, it was a nice we're moving from having a parking lot, private parking lot of nice, quiet neighbors to a massive paved parking lot um for
public use directly across the street from our house. Um, we at this point our biggest concern is safety. Um, Maple Avenue is an incredibly narrow tree. Um, and when speaking with these guys last
week, we didn't realize until later that night at plans that he spotted to be a 30 parking 30 parking space lot. Um, and I just, you know, I my request is that the project slow down and that the get
input from the neighbors. Um, I'm concerned about the safety on the street. No one's shared with us. We requested and no one shared with us a safety study on the street. Um, and I think that's I think it's a it's a
permanent something that's very permanent on before we get too far. Um, we'd like to a have our neighbors would like to have it in the sun. Um and we'd like to see and know more about a safety
study that that correction for the attorney you mentioned that parking lot is not parking lot the parking lot still belongs to the church we
obviously do not have yeah so we worked with the church to do that involved county. So it's a long policeman but we did not purchase any funds capital
uh the east property trying to be that was our understanding after meeting with you guys and and frankly that's great. Thank you clarify what we're splitting hairs about in terms of the concerns of safety and
the concern is the lack of well the lack of communication that the neighbors have gotten about it. I mean we went online several times and looked through every tag on the fair website and on there we couldn't find anything about you know the run the picture. I mean Drew sent it
to us last you know last week. Um but like we would have absolutely been involved with the conversation. Um but we knew nothing about it. Um so now here we are and it hasn't it hasn't been picked. It hasn't been finished. And I just we do want to
go on the record and say these are you know it's a it's a really really narrow street. The street's narrow at the end of River and you have 30 cars you know moving in and out of there multiple times a day. I realize that they're taking some of the cars off the
street, but where that street is is not live like this is. Um, it's not I just it great concern. I have a quick question. Procedurally, did we do a capital review for this
improvement to the planning board? NTDR uh TDR committee. They wouldn't part of the capital review. You have to go to the technical design review committee prior to going No, but they would have had the briefings at the planning boards.
But my question is, was there a 200? And I'm not really asking you although I have the answer. Um, if we did do a capital planning, what was the 200 foot notice circular? I don't remember. I don't recall. I don't think it's not a requirement. It's only a requirement for
zoning when you go for a variance, right? But we did have the open houses. We went all to the governing body meetings. We went to the planning board meetings. We did talk about the safety concerns, right? We we we're were widening fists, right? Because that created the
bottleneck there. We're shrinking the size of the apron, right? All of that went in. I got to defer to the police on the safety concerns. I can't speak to that because had originally had about 24 choice. You correct me if I'm wrong. Um kind of dish out that stops. I think now just to dish
out blood line, we also have problems where you know whether it was fire department we want to have res there's no park. So unfortunately we're still having the same amount of traffic. I think now is just ling it to make people more accessible and nicer with
the area. I guess you're concerned that all the streets around the area are warmed up. Um but we did have some traffic that would probably have been interesting to find out. [Music] It's a one way. I'm here. I love it. It's always been
down. Matter of fact, they even widen that song when they put the new uh they took some of the church when they put the new police that to me they wen. So I guess the point is you know the efficiency of the conversation. I mean
can there be you know Drew and Chris and I'm not just frankly we do want to officially go on the record before it moves any further we do want to have more conversation you're talking about you know public conversation we were talking about the beginning of the meeting for things down at the river and
things like that. We know that and in fact they did back up. We came when you know Chris knocked on our door and asked us if we wanted to come through and it was first being go finishing up. Nobody mentioned anything like hey we just walked across the
street from your house. Did you know or taking this is completely changing you like yeah. So um where can the process be? Well, I think the process has already been a bit out. I think the parking lot has already
been designed. Am I correct? A lot of these conversations made go back. Um so that's what 16 17 months ago. um these conversations about parking lot
discussions about whether or not he gone into detail that meeting in several meetings after that as far as plans for that and then discuss I don't know the dates better than I do but they were also discussed this after I had
started as the administrator um as far as the impact on store water then discuss on that and we actually brought the plan of it as far as having to store system that system you put in the parking lot.
There was say that there was never discussion level [Music] where there were discussions about discussing the design of this forward like I'm saying a lot of these meetings for this project and we discussed this a
lot multiple times. So I'm not saying that what you're seeing online is not accurate because it may be but like it's got to show up in the minutes and some of the presentations we have done. The only part of the project that um came sort of at the last second from my
perspective was some of the trees. Um and I think that was because of the fence line. Correct. The encroachments. They they couldn't they couldn't fit the fence without taking out some of the trees. And in that situation, I was told the burrow filed a tree permit, did what
they were supposed to do. So, you know, my understanding of the project is if the burrow wasn't even involved in it and the church wanted to build the exact same parking lot that the burrow was entering an agreement with them on, there wouldn't even be any zoning mechanisms involved. I believe that they
would be entitled to do that. Is that correct? you know, I don't want to mislead you and say like we're going down this road here where, you know, we're going to redesign the parking lot that's already been designed and uh is getting ready to be built out.
I certainly want to hear your feedback to see how we can do better and see if there is anything some mechanism that you bring up to us that we could potentially change much like Joe to make life better for you. So, do you want to email me what your thoughts are in terms I'd love to have a conversation with
Chris Connos, but I also don't want you to think that like this is going to stop the momentum of the overall parking lot, right? We explore all possible options with safety, I mirrors, I bumps, I
cross, whatever the options are. Could we explore all the above? Absolutely. to get them achieved. I always hope that we do that in every single situation, every single every single and absolutely it's something
that we can do. If you have suggestions, let us know. Um I'd say the same thing I said um regarding we fuel plant. We're not looking to make life worse for our records. We're trying to make it better. We don't win out on every single point
with every single resident. Um, but we really try to do our best to if you have any information you can send us. We'll be happy to take a look at it collectively and I'm sure with some of the engineers and I'm sure will be happy with
comparable probably have very similar situations. There's got to be opportunities for us to explore. I I I think it must be it should be a partnership. So like some just to clarify the record, we do explore those
things all the time and it's what led to me and council involves having animated discussion about class and it wasn't a bad idea but it's it's it's based on what's realistic. A good example is um you mentioned speed balls.
So they've looked at seat belts in the text. The recommendation has been not telling you the exact reason why you know one of the leases was snowfl reasons. I don't know. I think it's more of a collective discussion multitude of
different things based on the situation at each street and what's going on. So she brought up she has concerns about the safety of children or pedestrians bicyclists. That's something that I think everyone up there knows hits home with bacon, you know. So, if you have
any suggestions, please let me know. I'm sure the police department will take a second look, the engineers take a second look, and you know, but you know, I don't want to mislead you, but there's there's a parking lot that's already under agreement that's going in. Can you explain a little bit more about the
partnership? We like writers, they want to really understand that the town did buy like any use, you know, the purpose of it was so if the if the church owns the partnership, right? Like whatever the logistics are there like so is this
being designed for the good what is the good of the church or Phoenix? We have discussed this in public settings for the church nice use of that parking lot during certain specific times. as negotiated in the contract that we have
in Louisiana that we have with them. Um where it's not I don't believe it is for public use during those times. Am I correct? It's during it's during Sundays during the church services and as well as funerals. There are dedicated parking spaces for the church there.
spots are public spots designated strictly for members of that congregation or guest of that nomation. And and much like any ement like you know Jason my favorite utility who by
the way they do a a pretty I have to say and I want to give credit to our new liaison Jose who did a fantastic job but um you know they have an eastment on my property and um I don't even know how many years it is but it's probably
similar to this it goes for you know an amount of time that they have access that go on the pole that's on my property And I don't know what our says to the church how many years it is but it's I don't have I don't have the funding right now. However, if you would
like a copy of it certainly overre we worked with Reverend Smith back and forth. There were so many different like iterations of the design. At one point they were connected with the PD and at one point the one way was changed but ultimately it was the decision of the
church and they had to go up their kind of chain of command with with where it landed. But I think meeting with chief and I think sitting down and going through the safety concerns and making sure all those are addressed that absolutely having the drawings helps to inform the discussion. It sounds like your main
concern is that the one leg and exit sounds and enter Maple owns the fish. And did that have to be did for them to change that regardless of who owns it like you know when you change something in your house to get permits like what
was the safety protocol that had to happen for that sort of stuff? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to defer again. I'm not trying to be deflective. It's going to be a conversation for the chief of police who works with the entire design team, right? I mean, it's parking lot. Like, we didn't just It's not like me or
Drew sketched out a piece of paper. The people that are designing this are following DOT standards standard with safety concerns all involved. So, they follow the process when they do this. I, you know, and I'm not saying, but what I'm saying is like they already did
consider these things when they put the plan together. We even took it as far as like working with the fire marshal to make sure that like turning radiuses in both parking lots sufficed in case there was, god forbid, an emergency. That's nice.
You know, I I put your emails and the concern, you know, your concerns to the B administrator for sure. He can he can uh help uh you know, work with the police department to see what their thoughts are. If you have any suggestions, I would encourage you to
put the window also. Um, yeah, if anything, we're going to do it. Yeah. Um, we all live always check. So, that's what I told. I got to say
this is significant change. That parking lot was a parking lot maybe on Sundays lots of vegetation. Now we're talking about parking lot and general. So that's a very
significant impact and again I remember project but there was never any discussion any of the church. This is the the police department and moving and talking to buildings
that was great. This is dramatically different than it is. I just think you should think about your communication plan special effectively direct [Music] know what happens. It's just like we're going to park our car
right it'll just reach. So I do think we had an opportunity there. It's like a little family kid, especially that the homes like like where she is and the homes right around April that are affected and I just it's a little disappointing this major dramatic image
change dramatic. It's not like it wasn't public parking lot of this was a private parking lot seldom used and now I'm talking about a public with great expansion. That's Thank you.
Do we have uh are there hours in that [Music] hours? Correct. Is this considered part of the park? I I think you might I believe so. Yes,
there's a specific ordinance. Yeah. Um what about lighting? I think he he does make a good point on the lighting. Is the lighting on all night? The lighting is set up. It's the Yeah, correct. Not in the parking lot. It can't be.
We went through. So, to resurrect the conversation, we specifically addressed this and the governing body gave guidance on the specific light to use as well as the lumen count to ensure that the bleed over didn't go beyond the parking lot. So when you look at the PD community
center and the fish travel parking lot, there's a specific photosensitive diagram that shows how far the light goes and we specifically picked ones that have specific covers. They're on specific it's like an ISO timer. I can't remember the name off the top of my head, but that was one of the forefront
um in the in that conversation. Uh so close. So So would would it be reasonable? I think we'll have a continued conversation at half an hour after the park closes. We could have a timer that's shut that's
shutting lights off. Yeah. Yeah. [Music] Well, we package so as a public uh because you know that's not owned by
there. uh we could incorporate that. However, body determination that for that is also owned by the church probably not to restrict their parking. So if they had a defense uh that extended past what our parking hours
with the park would be um we would not be able to set those hours. So people we might be able to look at something as far ahead or parking permit to show people
that are you know church business or if it's just you know traffic so that something church I think we got to be careful about stripping
put signage in there. We said there till 8:00. Have the lights been purchased? Yes. The lights, specific lights that were purchased as part of the bid. Yeah. I mean the design is done and awarded and I believe they've already
started the procurement passive. Anything else with the burrow? We had bad storm power unbelievably time as fast as possible. camera
was more than Verizon lines and maybe this happened already. Chris mayor um for your response. This gave us an amazing story. actually got it on video. Somebody seen it. Um he
really damage. Um they serve the chief commission over the last few meetings and then there was a little delay in communication. um providing some advisory comment for the
governing body on the transom that was removed from the PD as a reminder to everyone as part of a um African-American school from where that went and it was very carefully surgically demoed and is actually stored
currently in the base of this building safe until I can find its current home and then I'm the latest preservation mission they talked about this over a couple meetings. I wanted to convey um a position that the council consider
placing the trans um in a rightful place. They looked at three locations. The schools potentially the centennial hall here or the community center. The consensus was that the community
center seemed to be the best place because of its relevance to the historic nature of the site. Beyond that, they there's a lot to figure out that it would where it would be placed, how it would be placed, whe
it so we could show pieces to the glass. Um, it's all in a memorandum, but it's my to bring that to your attention and I think probably we should make sure that you have the letter in an email circulate.
So for further discussion, hold this up if you want. did not need to. Um so now that Brian is saying that I feel obligated to to say it was a challenging 72 hours. Um but the one
story I will say is um almost immediately obviously we got a a really uh bad situation at the corner of London and um I almost immediately went to the
site that night to um make sure that you know everyone was safe. And when I got there, the amount of um emergency personnel buried and it was overwhelming. The response um was just
amazing. Uh it was great for me to see as the mayor. It was uh invigorating in some ways and see the way that our emergency personnel ran uh to help. It's like that Mr. Roger story. But um then I
made my way to another home that had a tree fallen on it as well. And our DPW was, you know, cutting up the tree, taking it off the house. Mick pushing people rolled up and everything dumps right
into work with his crew. Um and it was right around there that, you know, I think we had the best staff ever. Um, and I'm just very appreciative of everyone's efforts, not only in the storm, but every day. I think you guys are all amazing, and I was really proud
of being mayor this weekend. So, um, Alison, oh, just one quick thing. Um, couple government body meetings ago, um, the govern body approved a couple hours for Steve Souza to do the, uh, assessment of Marter Pond and where Wetlands is. um hot off the press came
in a little while ago. So I'll have Chris forward it out to everybody on the GB so you guys can see what his assessment is so it helps ground any future solution you find um after any sort of rough analysis then for a letter of interpretation.
Yes. Okay. before we did it acquired. Yeah. Um just to qualify just rough analysis, right? Souza has been a burough professional for a long time. So it was his professional opinion. I'm with you on going to D, but I don't want to misconrue that Steve Souza's opinion
who's guided us the last five years, right, doesn't come with weight because it's informed a couple things that we've done. So yeah, I have to say, you know, pet
when I came here a year ago that st and now by they've done a great analysis on it. So Dr. was about that. I want to be clear my request for that next step is is not have anything to do
with the characterization of his professional services. I agree. But again, that's just been a good year, Chris, hasn't it? We're we're happy to have you here. Alice online. Okay. So,
do I have a motion? Motion. Second. Good night.