Okay. So, we're going to call this meeting to order. Thank you everyone for being here. Um, this is a regular meeting of the environmental commission of the fair. In accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings act, public meetings may be held in person or by means of communication
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date with adequate notice having been given the environment commission secretary directed to give the statement and the minutes of the meeting. Okay, please stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it
stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Anna Anthony here. William Dorner, president. Susan Globus prese
is also not present. You have it for great. Thank you. Okay. Um so everyone had a chance to look at the June 11th meeting minutes. Um I guess there's a motion to approve
through. Okay. So those are approved and then we'll move on to the current residence. Um update the state of New Jersey action. Again, everyone knows that this is our third and final um application includes
July 31st of this month. Um currently as of now we have 210 points that have been approved um which meets the criteria for withdrawal certification but we would like to maintain our silver
certification of 350 points if possible. Um so that is a goal that we're working for the end of this month. Now I know people have um at this point at this point um you had
the second round if you submitted or helped to do an application review or comment. Please check to see if anything that you did submit if it was approved or or not approved. Um and
If you weren't able to correct those those reviews that they offered, um would you mind making sure that you change that action from must to complete? Okay. Um that way we know that
it has been looked at. So, if you own an action, your name has been on action, if you submitted it the first time, it's your responsibility to go back, check the review comments, if there's anything missing or any links that were not anything. Um,
and then would you change any status of that action to complete? That would be much appreciated. All right. any um questions how many more
sound now we if we were to correct all that we submit we would get it but some of the ones that we submitted their comments came back and I'm not sure what some of
those are um in that regard let's let's just if they can look at the facts and literally by the next by next week. It would be great if we have as as much as we can and done in and then in a few months get a little bit see if
there's any other small bearings action that we need to submit in the green team here as well. Um so it was done now that function is going to be taking over as chair Stephan and they
believe and Chris that too um they I I brought them invited them here as well because there's a lot of overlaps um I think moving forward too we're going to try to see what works best with
the great team since all that small groups to begin with um it would be great to meet more regularly together and have some of the discussions if they think it'll just be more efficient that way as a two groups. So I know you guys
spoke earlier. Um, is there any did anything come up with your discussion on Jersey or did you not think I was right? Okay,
so yeah. So next week I will tell you but the end of next week I will do just a thorough read through and um I might just try to get to people if I'm some stuff I've already got a lot of support from the administrator from council and
Barbara um and from and they will us and support us which is great for any still need the final question. Great.
Okay. Um Susan, yes. Would you want to just give a um talk about I mentioned it briefly to Jenny and staff of Yes. After presenting to um making it to
the meeting at the business association, we got maybe three or four responses to request to fill out this the application for sustainable New Jersey.
And since then, since our last meeting, I think we've got about three more feet, which is great. And I don't know who receives Fair Haven team email, but everything that I received, I copy to
the team in the hopes that we can get certificates printed and we can deliver them to people like there's nothing to stop that. Right. Right. So, how does that work? Because I think it's great that they responded. Some went above and
beyond. Some offered extra help. There's a woman who offered to do communications for us. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So I really would like to nurture that relationship between the
business community and the green. So I don't know how to do that as I'm good luck sending the email. We're not getting it. No. We'll bring this. I think it's Sarah Fel
that email but we are going to she also sent out information to the I I report to me. Um I know we need a certificate I did and I can easily make
them um folders right. Yeah. So maybe I can pick those up next week and deliver and have continued conversation because these are people are interested and that's great. And then that's that's a great um thing
to keep on green TV the new Google Drive. Yes. Just keep all of it applications on and then um so Christine has been looking into us about the um getting a green business deal sticker or window place for each business so that they can have a
um if they want a sticker or planning to put on their storefront just to you know again in do some good PR for them and some good uh relation to that so I think that would be great so we're hoping to
use um our budget to use that vote right um what we're going to say that could use no more than okay make a motion make a motion for that purpose yeah for that purpose to purchase
windows of window frames and stickers. So, uh I have a question. Great. So, that's how much budget and how much of the
um I think there's about 3,000 left. And so we were trying to get to 50 and 50, but the quote that we got back today had a minimum of 250 page. Um, which we don't need that much.
Um, so we're searching around um, you know, you can get it online but vendors. So if we can't get a smaller amount um
through the room already certified and we can try different so we can make a weekend to say that we want to spend no more than x amount and just to correct myself there's 3700
left So, what do you think? See, crazy thing. The one that was the only one that came in. I wish I vendors. Um, that one was a little high, but like it's a little frivolous because we don't need too
much. Yeah. Yeah. So, I can reach out to a few more because I still don't back. This is like very resistant. Maybe
like two minutes. They're still alive. We're not there yet in our communications. anything beyond that they probably open to that high. But um if we wanted her
quote for 250 stickers and 250 clings total was about $1,000. Yeah. This is again just one quote. That's just 200. So 500 pieces. Yeah. Now they'll be we
as people might not have asked but still so you need to find a vendor that will do smaller quantities but that will also do you can do an invoice system not a
credit card. So like stick renewal, any of those online ones might not be even if you can get them approved. Right. Right. Right. Um you need to be able to do the PO. But past did you guys ask about past? They were not one of them. I reached out to the people who do like our landscape
license stickers. Um some somebody did something for camp. Somebody did the shade tree hunger stickers. So, but this lady who did the Mazda that I was nailed out that's
so how many do you need right now? 50. Aren't you saying that's a little So yeah, we can, you know, we'll keep looking and trying to I think no more than let's just say I keep saying no
more than 700 I should say by that at least all come back no more than So that allows
no more than $700 for the printing of stickers for acknowledgement for members of the fair business association who have submitted applications for sustainable practices. Okay, that's great.
I think there's some great potential collaborations, too. Yeah. The way you say Yeah, I agree. I agree. Clearly, they value the people that are in the town.
Um, okay. Okay. So, moving on to Piccid. So, uh, as you know, you're aware, present on to the company, um, last after making a motion for that last, uh, meeting asking
just about our our concerns with the pesticide these parts are and the opport can speak discuss alternative um that like of not success right um I've spoken with the
administrator of York I've spoken with um council Ben um Michael and council p um everybody has been hop into talking about this um I even
In my discussions with uh with Chris B um I did mention that there are some alternatives that we could grasp for and that might eliminate the need for pesticides. For
instance, um if you use more water in the ground, if you mulch areas that the bees cannot access the ground, if you were to keep the grass high and 15 and get them to um and there's also diet
that you can use different ways that are alternatives to pesticides. I did find out that the reason why they introduced grades three times was because the first time it did not work. Um, and so they did it a
second time and they did it the third time. Not that we had to pay for each time, but maybe not again. Um, and so my concern was saying, well, if it's complicated first time, would you go out and do this? So the question is
too is why would they not have at least given the heads up that they were doing it because I mean they may still last forever now like if they're going to be spraying no matter what if they continue it goes
on grasses like just to notify the local adults or kids that are playing like put it on a list saying hey this is going to be happening this week. I feel like that you just to have that notifications that would be right and so I did bring that up and and
because the first one was it was you better you know um the second and third were not however the schools were notified 3 days before unless they have to be and then also um apparently it was posted in the parks 3 days before um and
my question to you is walk on the flags were about 7 in the city and so they were finding out what the SSI was and I have um just DJ's finding out
from the company but I do have um they've been very you know getting back to me with all this information spray one was the time oil um
uh Rosemary oil. Spray two is clove oil and cotton seed oil. Spraying three was ced oil and cinnamon seed oil. Those are three different appetites. Spring three, I'm sorry, spring oil and seed oil. So, they were going to reach
out to Becky for a more detailed um report of what was actually sprayed. Um because yes, maybe not every spraying needs full 72 hours, but I just said that they need the it was confusing because the school parent see these
flags and say keep them in two hours but they open up the car 3 hours later it's um and it's concerning you know there's a misation that um so
I suggested to that you'd be happy to help search alternatives and if that we could meet with some bias and then surger Do you just suggest some of these? I've also
suggested that since R was the one giving the order for the spring that perhaps we should include in our house they understand that they um sometimes
the the cure is the baby words and you speaking this words won't be matched with that um and you know there's there's a lot of that also so they open to that for all with suggestions.
Um I mean I would have to you know we don't meet next um in August next month but perhaps having a meeting with them by September 8th that would be great. So if anything would like to help
um join health research we're not the only municipality in New Jersey that hasn't be what are those right and that could be just a big win for the health of people and they have a big
so and it could be something like hey no May we're not going to mow that section or you know from May through March to May are active. It could be as simple as that. I'm absolutely less prospective, you know, with no cost unless, you know,
the maintenance is here. So, I'm happy to, you know, I'll work on that. If anybody else wants to just let me know questions, so why do they spread? So, um, again, finding out there's that balance of
keeping people safe. And so I think that question too is I would like to get together and talk and understand this a little bit more right um knowing that just because there are substantial people that have
allergies there's in every for you know grass and everywhere um it's a fine balance I understand my ability to tell I do but as a person who does have the allergy you're you have to be careful right you
say is a paleology as yet. Um well I talk with the beekeeper and he says those don't spend and um so there's a lot of I think it's a lack of
education yet again. Yeah there's there's learning to be done and we said like actually these aren't swarming bees. They're they're solitary bees. there. Um, but you know, I understand it's a fine balance. Um,
don't be anything new and smart, but we're, you know, we're trying to be well, if we can come up with alternating is not working, it's not something that we want to pursue or that we, you know, support unless absolutely necessary.
like there's some spreading held that's super dangerous. Um but in terms of these bees, um yeah, we want and and I also confirmed the idea that it would be nice to have the calendar of when this is
like of things similar to this that go on in the bureau so that we can be aware of it and try to work to come up with alternatives, right? Compromise. Let's look outside the box rather than keep spray spray spraying ineffectively and putting more things on our playground
services than the river as it's up the street from Yes. Um I know one of the schools had talked about um fencing in the areas in I mean I know there were in a few different areas
right um so is that something that would be discussed and then also um andor my understanding is and what we saw was a lot of them were concentrated in those dry dusty dirty parts and so would the
burrow would be willing to do some more planting and watering and try to establish some of those areas with native plants that eventually won't need the watering but will maybe attract a couple of working bees but will cover
the ground so that the the nesting bees don't have and so right so there's a lot of these different alternatives right and thinking about it and the maintenance parks themselves just south come up to and I know now um may have taken on the DVW tell you um they are open to
feedback for for what we think our parts need and how that kind of correlates with systemic outcome um or initiating it. I also looked into some of my research shares on how past
companies can also move these. There's a way to maybe move them to somewhere else, right? To somewhere that doesn't have a natural barrier, something that's not has kids playing and people walking over. So I think that's will be the goal of the
school subcommittee is to come up with charters and trying and I I love the idea of the calendar because then that also presents an opportunity to get a whole community involved right like hey it's this season and you can you know put the word out
what it is that we're looking at and why and how to manage it. Yeah. Yeah. And also just, you know, being more proactive and reactive, right? So hard to hear. Yeah. So that's the update. So hopefully we'll
have that. Great. Um, living shorelines opportunity. So uh myself and Satan spat or mail us two weeks ago about the potential of having analyst come back to
the commission or come back to the fair road or some of the governing body in some form to talk about what types of insurance um they've been working on county what types of insurance could
possibly be presented for um our new plans. on the road. Keeping in line with that that used to be on our agenda all the time park where there is you know money
allocated for for uh restoring that shoreline health. Um so everyone too has been very open to that feedback. Uh, I'm hoping that maybe we are going to have a meeting with some members of the American body, especially Drew, Tracy,
Chris. Um, just talking about some ideas and some examples of what who could possibly potentially be there. Zach has already come out, just checked on the spot as well. Um, and what sort of thing in helping to plan it, get experts in
that have done this in other places in uh, M County, the area, but a menopause to have a larger audience understandable. I do think that the community might not
um, and and the role that they play in line. Yes. So I took down some of the bolts and um and there's from one end of the night to the other
looking at this diverse home here there are bus national shorelines there's there's bul and old interconnect
what rich was one house has like a natural shoreline and then a bulkhead for the traffic. I think that's his inclination where 21.
So whoever wants to come over and give tour Yeah. We don't need to speak to our office. Thank you. I mean there's there's also Ralph and and Shetti
Shetti's had kind of a wall set back and then they had a living shoreline. I know she's all there in the past if the kids wanted to come and you know I mean it's a little bit overgrown but um when you say a bulkhead do you mean a
wall or even a bulkhead? And there was all different things uh all over. I happen to have a little short as neighbor's eye on the side. But then we've got somebody with a bluff
line and uh and then to the east there's a lot of varying cream or wood. the guy ultimately was are they looking at from
a lens too though of what will hold up best to play like when you take into consideration you know like the overlays of the insurance companies they're not looking at of what what the flooding is going to look like
21 and Right. Right. in those two the books and so I think that's one sort of expert you know obviously what can maybe
it's not a full of the maybe it's something you know maybe it's a very quick picture of the one house that has both you know so maybe maybe that is it's
just understanding all opportation in July. The grant was submitted. It was like the concept plan. Nothing is nothing is completely set in stone because we didn't have a met with any professionals. Nobody is there to what
you can do, what you can't do, right? So it was just a bit rated. Um anything else? What's the the amphitheater? What was in the two
box? Right. Again theater, right? And then they'll probably have like a beach, right? So hopefully that meeting will happen, you know, and then our plan is we'll kind of go into a new business is we're
hoping that maybe post that we could have an education series. It's a workshop here somewhere. We can invite community residents to come in and learn about living tour shorine house.
Um you know just And with all these flooding, you know, crazy swamps that have been happening, you know, um tree, you know, and the construction of the trees and things that have gone in and the again iterating the importance
of trees for storm water for retention. um because stabilization whether you live on or not but I think it's fun too. So um perhaps we could have a maybe
one or two other local experts in the area too invite to a you know water I mean kind of some sort of interactive
workshop or seminar on on what people can do and what these term is and maybe even present green collaboration if has there been any um talk about deory
would that sort of once they start I'm just thinking you know does it make sense to tackle so I probably at the same time I I think it would and I think in the planning it would
slotted um about $70,000 give or take around that um from litigation that is to be used for that um I do think and I can envision this just to get you exactly speaking with Chris that this would be like a
multi-ase project, right? So phase one, phase two, phase three, but it should be since those two properties um are really fun outrage at the same time since we're there, right? That equipment be there. However,
what is going with the grant getting approval to submit the grant it has to remain just the grant does the grant that's only the five but the grant does but because we also have money spotted
then we can utilize that and that's just one part of the grant society already they did from the grant yes but Um we never and uh and now
because the street has been changed since then but survey added to that finalized but it's depend on how much
Maybe maybe there's a separate funny there, but a separate matching brand that could be used for deory. I don't know if anyone's keeping an eye on that. I think that's an very helpful.
I mean the good thing is with the least they're not go like into the water for majority of this that'sual you're going to have different it's going to be totally different but I say that one should be very
Kelly, when you're talking about the educational experience, which is a great idea, it's a sweet and it sounds like you're starting out with water first water. I just think that it would uh kind of align with because we're trying to see the living trunk. How do you get
more public aware of what that is whether you're riverfront or not? So, when you say serious, are you instead of like three sessions, two sessions or I would say they almost like a week, right? If you had four different things
per year and you could and not saying this and then you can collaborate with the department. So if they want to be with the green team here like let's say uh and I know Sarah should do another energy savings and perhaps something or
as it gets colder um and then we can also partner with the very business on energy savings commercially as well and different things you can do. Um, but maybe in the spring when you do the
sheet again and you talk about the plants, you may have spring or partner with the garden. But I do think that it would be great to kind of be
and then hearing from other um different communities and commissions in town. I think it would be a great thing to kind of do with the calendar. That way you have some sort of structure but in partnership with all these different
groups. So I'm just trying to go more like thoughts by asking you questions. So it sounds like we have water in the fall energy savings of the winch in spring as a good general planning. So in order to do this are you going to assign
topics to people or else what do we need to go on the education. But, you know, work through something that just seems and set a calendar date at least. I
don't think we just going, we did talk about this briefly before Sarah left. Um, if you are talking about doing something with businesses, um, and you know, energy, uh,
it's just efficiency. one of the things that they might be interested in learning about. So Sarah and I were talking about that a lot of they're still they have doubled the size of the community social program in New Jersey but there's still not a lot of awareness
and so that might be something that the small businesses are interested in because any anyone is eligible for community solar. Um, so that might be something that, you know, board could spread fairly quickly through the small business association and it's a great way to do solar without having to
install um the infrastructure. Yeah, I think that's great. Um, yeah. So, I think storm water for the fall storm water that's all connected. uh energy
efficiency whether it's fall um and in spring there could be invasives planting fertiliz so you could have shade slash um gardenardens
yeah um you know and then if I think you know it's football, winter, spring, there's something in summertime, you know, talk about that, you know, food waste,
but I think super you know questions committees and groups that share them with uh focus on so I will check to see who's on that
but if anybody and this is where meeting would be beneficial everybody wanted to help collaborate with the education seriously we could it doesn't have to be just right should be a collaborative you know working computer. Um,
so administrative is here. Do you want to unmute yourself and unhappy? Hi What am I giving an update on? I can hardly hear you guys.
Planning board update. Is there anything to share? Oh, um the latest with the planning board is the master plan's moving forward. So, it's a total redo of the master plan. So, um our next meeting is next week.
I'll have more feedback for that. I mean, it's going to take a few years. So, the involvement of the EC is incredibly important at this point. Um, so yeah, I'll I'll get some information next week at the meeting and I'll I'll
come back with that. Thank you. Uh, I think council I know council is not here but um I just want to let everyone know that they we're still waiting and the fans
say that the needs to be functional commercial but there is a bin that will collect e-waste. So a lot of our products will be able to be collected at D&W in addition to the hats even which will collect clothing
um linens luggage racks you name it whatever it is it will collect it as well. So that means free of charge for people to drop off and recycled it just the cardboard and ease
and material stuff. what they do for them. Um, so that helps building the big stuff. It's a company called Topsy. They will pick it up and be and they actually pay us per pound and it's 10 cents,
right? You know, but it's all still beneficial and gets it out of the landfill. What they do with it is that anything that's they'll sort it up. If it's good stuff, they'll thrift it. if it's not good stuff, they'll shut it up and use it for um foam and and packaging
and seat cushions and things like that. So, I think it's these are great things that you think of the residents are going to be very psyched about it. Um so, Nick is going to be writing up a um memo
that was sent out to the town and working. I believe that's they're waiting for the end of the month. I've been offered the source of the grant to help study as well on social platforms and maybe you know make it a little bit
more readable or send it out to different but I think this is great computers what the I think we'll find out who I move. 30 minutes with the dry. So at least
that's the start. So that's that anyone. There are no attendees online besides our Stephen Overs, John and so to
the meeting tonight is adjourned. Thank you everyone for coming.