Give me a minute. >> I need I need a minute real quick. Got to let the puppy up. >> No problem. >> All right. Call it to order. >> Sure. Uh yeah, calling to order tonight, uh May 13, 2026, uh meeting of the Fair
Human Environmental Commission. So, um Chrissy, if you could read the Sunshine Law Notice, that'd be great. This is a regular meeting of the environmental commission of the bureau of fair haven. In accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings act, public meetings may be held in person and by mean of communication
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appropriate time. Notice of this meeting was sent to the Asbury Park Press, the two River Times, and the Star Ledger on January 30th, 2026. posted on the burough website. The Baltimore is a municipal building and has remained continuously posted as required under the statute. With adequate notice having
been given, the environmental commission secretary is directed to include his statement and the minutes of the meeting. >> All right, thank you for that. Um, everybody like to please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America. and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> All righty. Uh Chrissy, can you please do roll call?
>> Anna Antin absent. William Dorner >> present. >> Kelly Flanigan said she'd be late. Susan Glovis. >> Jesse Murray >> here. >> John Helen >> here. Gary Patterson >> here. >> John Peters.
Hold on, let me see. Is absent. Also present. Councilwoman Dimelli and Burough Secretary Larson. You have a quorum. >> Great. >> Thank you, Christie. Um, first thing is uh to approve last month's meeting
minutes. Um, hopefully everyone has had a chance to review. Um, I think I took a look at it. I think there's like a minor like spelling error somewhere. It says like th instead of through. Um, I for what page that was on, but that was the
only thing I noticed. >> I will look for that. Thank you. >> Yeah. But anybody else have any any comments or otherwise? Uh, would we like to all approve the minutes? >> I'll make a motion.
>> Second. All right. All in favor? >> I. >> Anybody oppose? And anybody abstain? All right. Meeting minutes with that minor error uh
fixed uh spelling error and then they'll be good to go then. Thanks, Christie. Alrighty. Uh current business. Um, I guess just kind of follow up from last meeting. I'm sure Kelly will probably have a little more to say, but I know kind of
our meeting minutes had a pretty good summary about last last week. Um, thought that was really great effort. Sorry I couldn't be there. Um, obviously that was probably not the best meeting to be uh not not be present for in person, unfortunately. Um, but I know
there's a lot of good conversations and I think um I I think from our kind of to-do list, it sounds like uh by the July meeting, we should be getting back some feedback from all the different groups and hopes to kind of get like a calendar of like priorities. Um, I know there's talks of maybe putting together
some sort of like Google spreadsheet of every of everything and kind of maybe being able to track a lot of these things a lot better. um especially with anything that's overlapping and you know how we can help out since DPW says their
their biggest um weakness is kind of having some sort of administrative assistance. So I think anyway we can kind of help out and then in that manner help to manage with volunteer events and whatnot. So, I think um you know once we get all that uh get everything together
from all the different groups um I think we'll have a kind of good idea of kind of what we can kind of put together for the full calendar in hopes to kind of get things organized for this year so that next year we can really kind of get the ground running for things. Um, I know also from kind of the the to-do
list, um, we are on crack to to put together some, um, some kind of universal tenants for all of the groups. Um, I don't know if anyone has kind of had a chance to maybe even just kind of think about anything related to that.
Um, kind of where we kind of overlap. Um, or you know, if you've, you know, anything kind of related to those tenants. I don't know. I don't know if there was a due date um for those in particular if that was also kind of a July um
a July effort, but um if anyone has any thoughts from the last meeting um happy to hear them. I have a question. I think there were a couple of issues. One was um did whether
or not we needed council approval to any kind of collaboration efforts >> and the other was there was a technical issue about using a Google spreadsheet that violated. >> Thank you.
or sunshine. >> So from what I understand the issue is if people are going in and deleting everything like if if it's okay if it's shared I think and people have access to viewing it but I think the problem is
once like if multiple people are going in and sharing like the deleting and everything would have to come from administration. >> But I might have Chris speak to that further. I will find I will definitely find out. But I think there were also a
little bit of concerns about like where shade tree kind of falls into this as well. So I think there might have been some talk about how this would all really play out because it kind of when they left it sort of sounded like ECU was going to sort of be the head and then Shade Tree
and everyone would kind of filter to the EC and I'm not sure if that really is what ended up will work for Shade Tree as well. So, I'm not sure where that stands, but I can find that out. >> Okay. >> So, I but I can I can I'll find out more
and then I'll find out. But the I mean Chris said no to did you talk to him at all about the Google Drive? >> Yes. >> And what can >> it constitutes a forum if more than >> are using the same document? But maybe if it's um you only Yeah. Yeah.
>> And then there could be there's no collaboration. There's no nothing that would constitute a meeting. Um or if that's something that I manage. >> Well, that's what I'm not clear on is like it can someone from the green team or not the green team, sorry, the EC
also manage it. Like if if you are managing it, is it okay if someone on their end manages it too? Like has access to it. So I think we need to just clear that up. >> Yeah. I think it was left that everyone was going to send all the dates to
someone. I don't know who that was. There I don't think that was determined. Um or bring them to the July meeting if that's something that I'm going to be collecting and >> populating or all the groups to share. I I don't know where that landed to the groups to decide. >> Jesse, I think it'd be worth it for
maybe um us to get on a call with Kelly and Chris and really hash out the details and how this would work. Yeah. >> Yeah. Also, uh yeah, that that makes sense. Um >> I I mean I I do think it makes sense to like kind of maybe like a view all like
everyone can view it but not make edits, you know? I mean just in general just so things constantly changed and if other groups are seeing things maybe they can yeah have like a central person to send things to. Um, I was also thinking too, I don't know if was there an was there a
followup email sent to all the groups following last month's meeting because I feel like maybe that's >> there was. >> Yeah, I sent it to everyone who attended. Um following the meeting um Chris York advised that the chain of
command as it exists now as far as going to him with all the projects instead of should remain intact until any further decisions or until all these kind of channels are worked out. um he you know he's the B administrator. He will take in all of the requests and filter them
as such um until all these you know questions are answered and >> okay um >> the only thing I saw that he asked me to send that out and I did and >> that's the extent of my >> but I don't I remember that part. I
don't remember if we if in that email we asked everyone from the other groups to send stuff or and who to send them to. Was that in that that wasn't? So I don't to Jesse I think what you're asking is if an email went out kind of with next steps to everyone.
>> Yeah, exactly. Um just so they know like you know who to Yeah. who to who's going to be taking all their information and kind of aggregate aggregating so they know who to send it to um by July. So that's supposed to be Chris and like maybe Christiey's copied on it just to
keep it simple and then we can um Christie can send that to you know a few of us prior to um or like I guess following that July meeting um for us to kind of maybe organize together. Um but yeah, maybe even just uh Michael if you
know we chat with Chris and Kelly >> I think yeah >> about it. We do that. But yeah, I think I think but I think it definitely makes sense regardless to besides us talking is to send a follow-up email so folks know exactly who they should be emailing about it and organizing this list. So
>> I think specifically the ask that came out of last month's meeting was can each group do a calendar a annual calendar and prioritize what they felt was important. So I don't know if that's beenated.
>> Yeah. So I think that that I that was kind of how it was left but not committed to who to send it to especi specifically. So I think after this meeting we can figure out is this all just going to Chris? Is it kind of going to you guys too so we can talk
more. I'm going to send an email now just to get this going. >> Yeah. No, I think that that's a good idea. Um and because obviously we still have time you know folks you know you know we're in May so they you know they still have time to think about things and send them. So, it's not like we're asking to do this like tomorrow when we
don't we still don't know. So, we we have time for it. But, yeah, let's let's definitely um figure that out, get things organized. We can just send another follow-up email. It's like a reminder, too, like, "Hey, by the way, you know, just reminding you we want to get everything by July. Here's what we're looking for. Um, just to kind of
keep things organized, and like please send everything to, and we'll find out who that's going to be, who's going to be aggregating I think I saw Kelly came in there. So, Kelly, we're just on um just the first uh agenda item kind of going over uh
last month's meeting and just kind of the kind of to-dos that came out of that. And um I think Michael and I were saying that we should get together with um you know you, me, Michael and Chris to kind of go over like who should be in
charge of aggregating the list of all the different groups of all the priorities and like the calendar and to-dos and whatnot. >> Great. Sounds good. Um, I don't know if you had any other
thoughts related to last month's meeting or because I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on kind of like the just the general tenants that we're kind of charged with coming up with. I don't know if I know we have I don't have the list of our specific tenants, but I don't know
if there's anything we can kind of build off of that or if everyone wants to just think about that a little bit, maybe for the next meeting we can kind of have some ideas together and uh go over it. >> Yeah, I I do agree. I think that a
follow-up meeting, I don't think we ever really did sit down and have a follow-up meeting with um Chris or uh Anna um also Nick from DPW just to kind of see what would be the next best steps moving
forward and who should be, you know, ownership of those. Um, >> so yeah, I think that's definitely if we should plan that, Michael. Um, Chris and
with Chris and Jesse and I try to figure that out. >> Great. >> Thanks, Jesse. >> Yeah, no worries. I'll let you uh >> Oh, feel free. I will >> I feel like your name's on a lot of
these, so >> I know. I don't know why either. Uh but yeah, I I don't know. I mean, I know the next the next uh item, unless anyone has anything else on this agenda item, um the next one is discussing the EC priorities.
>> Yeah. And uh talking about the water stories, I love where you live day. We actually had a map of our uh all of our creeks and outlets um and inlets of of our water in in
Fair Haven. And we had it blown up and laminated. And we asked residents to um there were two different colors of postitives. One to identify areas of leisure, what you liked to do with those water things and one was red and it was
like a hazard, you know, something. So try to map out the flooding points um or some pollution or you know, water quality concerns. Um, and then also just about some like the highlights of why we value
and appreciate water marathon as well too. So I have that I will um type that up and bring it for our June meeting. That's just to get us started and then I'm going to I could easily
um delve into the sustainable Jersey water story action and kind of break that up and divvy that up according to you know more manageable pieces that that can go into that. >> Kelly, I actually asked Chris about that today because I was wondering if you had talked to him at all and he's happy to
help with this. >> Okay. So, I was thinking in this same meeting, maybe we could just discuss the water story and see what you can get from him or what's needed from I know Nick might have some stuff and then Chris might be able to help as well. So, um I'm just going to mention that we can
talk about the water story at the same meeting. >> Yeah, that'll be great because it's obviously it's um it includes your MS4 and your storm water and stuff like DW. >> Yeah, a lot of this they will have, you know, some >> quick quick question. I know we like put
this that you know that mapping was at um the love where you live day but I think it kind of it would be valuable for you know everyone on like the EC on all of our groups DPW council like if everyone that's involved with the town
maybe also does the same activity and kind of writes what their favorite thing is and maybe things that they think are concerned just to kind of get the general sense from not only just you know the folks we had at Love where you live day but everyone that's kind of served ing the town too. I think it'd be
really great as like, you know, part of the water story to to get kind of all those all of us included in it. >> Very interesting. I think that's a great idea. Yeah, maybe we can send it out to the different committees. >> Yes. >> Great. That's correct. Um Okay. And so I
guess the hope to is kind of with these priorities that we're having on here and including on every agenda to kind of have like a point person or an ownership person um communication website.
Now I know um the EC was just asked to create some communication about the current notweed problem, what to do, what not to do, what to look for um based on the fair human road notweed infestation. >> You're all aware. >> No. >> No,
>> I have an update on that for you. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Um, regardless, we could get there in a minute. But, um, we we created a flyer for that or we're drafting that to to send out to residents what to do, what not to do. I know we've been talking a little bit. I saw your email about the
Marta Park, I mean, the Marta Pond um, for residents, homeowners that live near water, what to do, best practices. >> Um, and then there were just in some of my texts, people like, "Where do I donate stuffed animals?" I'm like, "You could do it at the Helpsy
bin." And they're like, "I never knew about that." So, I think there's just a matter of information, communication for some of the stuff that >> we could help um deliver to the town. >> Um >> it can definitely go in that um we redid
the focus. So, bless you. And that's one of the things that I think would be great to have like a regular page, sort of an environmental page or a suggestion page. So, if every I think the focus comes out every two months. >> Yep. So I think that a regular if you
want to have a regular page of information. So not weed obviously and she and any of this stuff too we can share social media wise too but if you want to have like a regular section >> but like seasonal tips like things to do I think um so I'm happy you know I'm
happy to kind of like work on the water store and kind of really focus on that if anyone else want to join who would want to like really kind of ownership of the communication this thing like the EC like the ECPs on the on the
focus for >> John. Yeah, >> I have no problem though. >> Great. And then like Ann Anna was one that like just whipped up that eat that notweed thing. I mean, she might even want to, you know, or help that stuff as well. >> Um, do you remember it? Do you have any update on that?
>> There's no updates. I mean, I did ask Chris about it today. I mean, there's it doesn't sound like it's getting on the agenda anytime soon. Um, one story that I I didn't hear about I hadn't heard this, but I guess Chris said that Did you know that Shbury tried it? >> No. Apparently they did a according to
Chris. So this is >> apparently they did a hunt and it failed is what I So I don't know how true this is. This is information I got today. I haven't had a chance to really look it up but >> it didn't do well because no one else around them did it which was one of our
concerns. One of the main concerns is we're not in a little bubble here that >> so that was just an interesting anecdote to know that they did it but it there hasn't been any calling it for Obama. That's where they ended up fencing all of Fort M. >> Yeah. >> When they fenced off all of Fort Moth,
it was because they had done a culling >> and it was coming back. >> So then they fenced it off and called again >> and so because I was part of the Fort Moth closure. Oh, >> you were. >> So that was one of the big deals that they, you know, they did the culling. Everyone lost their mind because there was a pile of deer in the middle of it
and it was terrible. Not okay. Um they just piled them up. It was awful. But um and then they did another calling afterwards and that's when they fenced it off and you couldn't even drive through. Yeah. Remember they had it all completely fenced and that had a lot to do with wildlife. That wasn't just
people driving through. They just couldn't handle the wildlife >> because they were they get into the buildings and they were, >> you know, they were all over the place. >> So I really like I don't know. I mean it's one of those things. It's like there's no good solution, >> but there's no like um meeting of the
minds like the mayor's >> councils, you know. I don't know that talk about >> I honestly think that it just has to do with the politics of it. You know, people don't want to see colleagues. >> I actually don't know that that's
totally it though because again, as like an environmentalist and a like vegan vegetarian, I don't love the idea of it. But I am open to it after all the things I've heard. >> But at the same time, if it doesn't solve the problem, then I'm not open to it because then why, you know, then
we're just killing the deer. >> Yeah. So, I don't know. I feel like we're kind of like stuck. But I >> But apparently like Dunson and Little Silver want nothing to do with it. >> And I like
>> Where do you go from here? So I'm >> What's that? I think Romson does have private ones like on private property and I guess but so that's taken care of but I don't know why. Yeah, they have enough room. We we don't have enough like we can't don't have enough I think it's like two acres of private
>> properties that's big enough. >> Um and little silver I don't really know why but from what I've been told it's they have no interest. I'm happy to take next steps. I just don't like >> Yeah. Right. I know. >> Yeah. >> So I don't know if that even becomes a priority and that we >> I don't think it is at this point.
>> Yeah. Okay. Maybe we can remove that one. >> Chase. >> Yeah. >> And and um All right. So, we'll put that on hold until you know something happens that it gets, you know, people's
talking again. Christmas tree disposal. Did you ever um I know you said that there's mixed reviews. >> My my honest opinion is this not a priority. >> Not a part. Okay. >> I mean, I The little reading I did was more negative than positive. >> Okay.
>> So at this point I would not >> okay >> move forward with I wish they grow up in China. >> Okay. So then water story communications if there is something else that we want to I mean maybe this invasive plant and infestation or no >> we could talk about that maybe that
becomes or our next agenda item if somebody wanted you know which is like the skip the stuff and construction dust ordinance. Um, I noticed the stuff has been passed by the state. >> Um, however, I don't think people know
about it. Again, I ordered from a restaurant in town. I still got my utensils. >> I don't think it's live until August. >> Live until August, but people could start. >> I think if that's something you want to have a campaign on, like that could be also something that we put in the newsletter.
>> I agree. Yeah, I think it's >> work with HPI to also let businesses know that is coming down the pipeline as well. >> What was it? >> They skip the stuff where restaurants don't need to supply
>> takeout utensils or packets unless the president. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I feel like that all falls under communication page then we can make that >> echoes it and directs people to the page. >> Great. So that can be a part of that communication too. And I think I think
it's supposed to be in effect in August, but so that could be something. >> So you said there was a flyer already made for the not weeks. >> Yes. And >> we're waiting on clarifying some of that
information. We'll get into how to get rid of it. >> Well, identify it. >> Yes. how do I identify it and try to do what to do with it because it was mixed. Some people were like, "Don't touch it." Then the other people like, "Well, bag it." So, it's like, "Well, wait a minute. What do you do? Do you bag it or
do you not touch it?" Um, so that was the clarification I think. And Bonnie Bonnie was offering guidance and feedback to this too. Um, when it's small enough that you can get all the roots, >> then you can remove it, bag it, tie it up, and put it in the trash. But if it's
larger because all the ryomes it's really hard. You want to cut it in the fall when it's weaker. You want to cut it in the spring. >> In the spring. >> Okay. >> Because you don't want it to go to flower. You don't want it to go to flower. But you spray it in the fall. >> When you >> The idea is spray in the fall because
right now it's pushing up. >> In the fall it's retracting down the energy into the root system. >> So it tinks the so it takes the >> but um We were just discussing at the green tea meeting about how
I yeah first finding out all the places that have it notifying making residents aware of what it is. Oh, I have that reported to the burrow. Then I don't know what you do from there because you need to be a lot of these people
that have it are on either um the river on a creek or on bird the bird sanctuary. They there's wetlands involved and you have to have a special license to treat >> put chemicals down in wetlands. >> Yeah. See, I put all mine back and and
it retreated from my property but it sprayed this way. toward across. >> So retreated I I have it retreated all the way from my backyard all the way to the wet land. So I'm the I'm the opening if you stand on that bridge on that white house. >> Mhm.
>> And you'll see there's nothing from that bridge all the way to my home. But it spread that way cuz I just I had I have guys cut it back every week. Every week they cut it back. They bag it with >> What do they do with the pieces that they cut? >> They bag it bag it with black
construction bags. They I don't know where they take it. I don't care where they take but they take it somewhere but they're not taking it into the ferry, you know, bring it to the um they say they're taking care of it. But that they're they're they're registered guys that do this and
>> registered with a landscaper. >> Yeah, it's a registered D landscaper. I they actually I had called them and had them come to me. Um and um and Ken Foxworth who's a local landscaper is also he's very good at doing because
he's the one who now keeps it that way. >> Well, so I mean the question is so are you pushing it into your neighbor's yard or into the Harding Bird Sanctuary? >> Oh no. So from my house to the sanctuary like you know that weird buffer that's that runs all the way down six down
Rucker Drive. So, if you're at that if you're at that bridge and you look towards Ruckers, you look towards my house, there's a weird like it's an easement because that's where our sewer pipe is. >> Okay? >> And it's where all the water pipes are
and that's where it all is. It's down that. But where where my house is, you'll be on the bridge, you look across the wetland, there's now a little green little green plot of land there that used to be all notweed. It's now grass. And then you'll just see there'll be a
wall of it at at two and a wall of it at at four. I'm six. So it's two and eight. >> So they aren't doing anything. >> Yeah. No, they don't care. But so so it's literally a wall on each side of my property and it goes to cut back. >> The problem is that it starts to impact
your neighbors and in this case it's impacting the heart of the bird sanctuary >> and they did send weeds ink in there to treat it. Um it's just one of these kind of things that we have has to >> get them hired every year, pay them
every it is a like a year after year after year thing >> and they he will only treat on public. So how do we help residents and we haven't figured this? >> I just paid it. So I came to the get it to go.
>> Well, so and and do you know because you're saying that you have somebody that I think most landscapers don't have any idea what it is cuz I said I saw my next door neighbors they were pulling it and throwing it on the brush by my house and I was like >> and none of them spoke English so I
couldn't really convey how bad it was and I that just scared them because they thought I was yelling at them. I was just kind of say this is bad bad. >> Yeah. But um so I mean you know this might be more you know education
educating residents and the landscapers they come in here because >> you know also I think like if pieces of it get on their lawnmowers they go into the yard they're taking it with them. >> No the cool part is they come in they pull it they bag it then they cut my
backyard. So I mean and I've talked to Ken he's he's always saying he's willing to come talk. He went to school for all that. Like he's not just a landscaper. Do >> you want to do a talk? >> Ken Fox. >> Maybe we should do a talk. >> He would love to do a talk. >> I think maybe we should do an education talk. >> I mean, he went to That's why I like him
because he's like a landscaper that went to armory school and then decided to become a land landscaper. >> He lives in I believe he's a Redbank resident, but he he's I mean, I know he does my whole block because over the last 15 years I've got everyone on the block.
>> So why isn't he helping your two neighbors on either side? that they're not interested. They have to want to hire >> an education campaign on what notweed is, why it's so bad for property value, too. I mean, you go to to Europe and you >> it is like hazardous. You have to you
cannot sell your crazy >> you have notweed on there. You cannot >> The question is how do you what is the hook here? How do you get people's attention? >> Because as you're saying, John, your neighbors just are like they don't understand. They don't. >> Yeah. They don't care. So most people say I mean because it does go through a
very pretty stage and everybody's seen it. They don't understand that by the concession stand there's a huge package that's like 8t tall. >> They're going to take care of that apparently. Chris said that today. He brought up for how he feels specifically. >> I can't believe that cuz I've been
>> Yeah, he said it. So hold him to it. But he told me that today. I mean it it's it's we should have we should get a very educated protocol >> and make that >> public and then if people need help I mean I don't know if this fellow would
go out and just >> charge people to just deal with their not in their yard or something like have some sort of program >> or like somebody to call if you have it. >> Yeah. >> What you said weed zinc is >> Weedink but they do commercial. They don't
>> Well, they only do commercial. >> Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's that's >> interesting. >> Um and and we talked about I said to Chris York, could we get a list of everybody and then we go, but there's no way to charge it and then the involved then there's
>> um I talked to him about it, but I would love it if you talk to me and I talk to him constantly. >> I think a talk would be great. >> Yeah. I have a question about the I haven't seen the flyer yet, but it came up at the green team how and you mentioned I don't even know what you
said, but like how the it goes like 10 feet under and that whole has the whole network. >> It did you mention that like I think that's pretty interesting and I wonder if it like even having the picture of what's happening underground might be interesting. >> A lot of people cut it because it looks
like it's it looks like bamboo. So when it's really they'll cut it and they think it's just going to grow exactly the same as bamboo. It just happens to be a different plant. Christie, can you put it on? >> Yeah. And I also have like the photo of Fourth Creek sign with all the knotweed
>> that um you can like barely even see the um the the sign. This was from last August. >> Um and then also we were going to put in the um
what it looks like as uh a baby. The red. >> Yeah, the red look at the part of pond right now. >> Yeah. >> All those little red things that are growing in the new dirt. >> Kelly, didn't we have a calendar of the educational topics per season that we
were going to do and one of them was invasives, another was native plants. And are we on schedule with those public education programs or this sounds like it would fit right into that? Yes. Um I
don't think we actually had invasives on there. I think it was like the Nommo may and the Ni and um um I I don't think invasives was on there. I think it was like pollinator and stuff. However, with this whole
Third Street because of the dirt, the fill that they brought in. So apparently, just to keep you guys updated, all the sidewalk project that they did on Fair Haven Road, the fill that they brought in for it had not been. So you had Oh yeah. So you have forests of notw weeds sprouting up and
you can tell >> unfavor road >> unfavor it's mostly by the water but it's also third street. >> It's also getting down the the grass path like the was it the um >> the public I don't know >> it's on the other side of the buffer on
the other side of the buffer. So the water too. >> It's getting in people's yard line. And it's also right at the buffer like in front of people's houses on that. So and you can tell it's like that the red tiny little >> will it grow in any area or do you need specific
>> any wet land or anything like that? >> It can grow any >> and just to give you an update. So the discover um it's on discover they their dirt was infest in whatever infested. They are taking it out all of the dirt
which is was the suggestion I gave at the beginning. Um but they're doing it apparently on Friday. They're starting to take all of it out. We emphasized at the council meeting the other day that this needs to be taken seriously because it's starting to get on people's properties and we were the concern was like once people start mowing it's going to get on the blades and then it'll
start spreading even further. And it's it's spreading. So, but it's underneath the sidewalks, too. >> It will eventually, but like right now, they're just smaller. >> It's just smaller. >> What about the sidewalks? >> You know, popping up here and there in between the grass, but it's all speckled
in between there. >> Yeah. >> But when it gets to be big like that, that's when it becomes really difficult to manage. Um, and >> and it becomes kind of pretty though. >> So, for instance, this was fourth creek
last August. Um, yeah. >> And like you can't see the backyard. >> You can't see the creek. And so we actually had to get them. So it's right behind Raven and the Peach all up and down Fourth Creek. And it's been traveling down Fourth Creek to Baton
Road. Even Anna says it's coming in her yard. >> So that's all we have. We don't have another write up that >> this is what we have so far. But it says do not move it, but then bag it, spin it, don't bring it. I don't know. So I'm like what? We people are going to get confused. We need to be clear about what
to do and at what point. Um maybe we can send this to everyone to Christie just feedback. >> Well, are you allowed to is the town allowed to recommend somebody like John's guide? No. No. >> Yeah. No, but >> maybe the EC can put that on our
website. Can we put like >> put a list of registered projects have to be >> because I'll figure that mind the project is like you know a handshake thing like he he wants to be know he wants he doesn't want to be tackling
notw weed um that you know um but >> really well >> no >> this is just email >> this well intended the >> can we I'm just saying can you get on the way to sign >> bur council wanted the easy to do this to get something out that will be
amazing to the public to inform the public. Um Anna was on that call. She's like, "Let's just whip this up." We want to put some um a photo of what it looks like when it's little cuz it looks red. >> Yeah. >> Just so people can identify it. And maybe that Fourth Creek photo as well,
just to see that it's it's here in Fair Haven and it's all over. >> Concession stand would be even better. >> Um >> and then but what to do? This is this is the question. We need to figure out >> plan of what to do when you have it.
>> Yeah. Because um we don't want people, you know, spraying chemicals all over the place. But I think this is something that there's probably I mean Robin will argue she will say you can put cardboard on it, which you you can if you had a little
area and you cut it down and you put cardboard on it and smothered it, you kill everything under there. But you have to be willing to live with car the cardboard. >> Yeah. >> And waiting for it to break down and and making sure it stays down. It's anchored
and you know. So I I don't know if that's it wouldn't be appropriate. >> Anyone from Mon County Parks or that some of your contacts that you can reach out and say what is the right guidance we can give to homeowners? We have this problem in our town. You know >> how about >> orers? Yeah.
>> Well, this is what Robin was saying about the first day. They do the cardboard. >> Well, then you said they don't spray. And >> they have a lot of cardboard around town. >> There's certainly a lot of >> um I mean if you wanted to do a
demonstration >> on fourth creek right here, >> um you know down the raven and the page down the side, you can do it. >> It's just that if you have kids or anybody's messing around, they pull it up. You have to somehow anchor it on the
ground. Yeah, I wonder if we can just um >> because we a couple different >> experts on this and just try to find some best path opposite. There are some options. Hardboard is one
I can um email we and say yeah >> we have a serious problem so many residents. Is there can you make a suggestion? >> Sure that'd be good. >> That'd be great. And then going back to the calendar, do we do a public program on this? And
>> does it mean we have we have a seasonal list? I mean, I think it could be invasives as a whole, but highlighting Japanese notweed, maybe Ivy, like I talked about, we talked about invasives and um Gavin
>> uh from Fair Haven Fields National at um Love had a great had all these invasives and put it in this box and it looked like a beautiful display. >> I said it looked pretty pretty. He's like, "No, it doesn't." >> No, these are all the invasives. And I'm
like, "It's a trick." it wasn't do is actually be like and this what we wanted we've talked about it is have a guide of invasives and common invasives in comparative what they look like what to do why they're bad >> natural area has a has a poster
>> so they've created something at some point I don't know they might have the copy for you >> also to be like what to do with it because even the garlic mustard you know is >> so invasive but keeping it in apparently it destroys this nematode that kills
ticks. So if you have somebody in there, it allows ticks, right? Or something. It feeds ticks. >> Oh, that's bad. >> Oh, it doesn't kill the or something that >> it kills the thing that the tick >> ticks like >> ticks like garlic. >> I found a tick in my house yesterday.
>> There's a lot of garlic mustard all over. >> Anyway, that's just a you know, one way to inform people. But I think in invasives education s like education. Yeah, >> I would be great.
>> The um little silver or the little silver DC is having that shorelines. >> Yeah. Are you gonna talk about that? >> Um yeah, we'll definitely >> that's coming up. >> Yeah. Right. What is that? >> Send it.
>> 1:00. Um >> um we were just talking about Yeah. getting that getting Betty and maybe almost that burrow. Yeah. It's it's it's very relevant because we're about to decide whether to do that kind of on the very road shoreline versus bulkhead. So
the more people understood what exactly it is. I think it would be great. >> Michael with Betty in um are we allowed to have postings for neighbor towns? We did for them send one. >> I we can ask definitely ask. I don't know. Typically we don't but this is an
issue that we're dealing with. Send it also at the woman's club in Little Town. It's about how learn how this might affect us. >> Yeah. Say considering I mean this is what we're leaning towards, right? We'll
be trying >> if you have a graphic just send it to Chris if it >> um I guess Jesse passed it on. Jesse told me about it. Awesome. >> It's in the green team text, >> too. Jesse sent a text.
>> No problem. >> Thanks. Um, okay. So, I know we're all over the place here, but a lot of this is like fallen under the communication, right? Skip the step and not being invasive.
>> I don't know about construction. We're going to chill that for now. um forest nest and river update. I don't think there's any other update. I mean, we'll see as the weather gets warmer, more people are using fertilizer and pesticides, and we'll see how that goes
in. But related to the Fourth Creek is the notweed and the notweed explosion is happening. >> Robin said she couldn't get to Fourth Creek because of the knotweed to do the test. Yeah. >> Yeah. And that's why last August we had DPW cut down the notweed so that the
ocean action could actually get somebody in they couldn't even get through it to test. Um so it becomes a problem when it also inhibits your water monitoring. Um mart pond shoreline property suggestions Gary
you want anything? >> Well I mean that's that's similar I guess like a something like that. Like I some documents like that that were created ones that I found were actually created for target. Okay.
>> You know, the same examples, >> you know, >> do you think you could pick out someone like the good like the main important things and we can like we easily make a flyer like that somewhere like that? >> Yeah. With help of AI. >> Yeah. >> Does it hurt? Does it hurt you coming
out of your mouth saying >> I'm just I don't know. Maybe that wasn't AI. >> That was Anna. >> No, she does that in >> Yeah, she does. >> Can we do Canva, too? But if you could find a couple of like just synthesize like
>> Yeah. >> top five things to do. >> Yeah. >> And not to do, you know, then it's easy to kind of, >> you know, organize that way. So, can I can I get email directly to Anna?
>> Yeah, I I have to ask Anna, but I'm putting her on. >> When this came up, she said she would. >> Okay. >> One minute. >> Yeah. >> Came up, she said. >> Okay. >> So, >> why don't you email Anna and I and I will help her with that as well, too. Um, and I saw the the links that you
sent to Chrissy and I. So, I'm happy to like kind of work, you know, I could send me your top five and I'll you know um we'll just go from there or something like that, right? surprising me that's helped the bird sanctuary is
that the deer eat all the nine >> really and then it's helped it grow back like it's helped it >> push away >> push away because that's why the clearing works so well because they eat they graze >> like you know it's kind of funny because I was just I'm going over my notes from
from uh Kent and he was like the deer are actually helping us out >> eating the notweed >> they eat the notweed they love it they love the notweed >> well I just found out that they eat it in Japan Yeah. >> Wait, that's crazy. >> They make not tea, right?
>> But I have never seen a chew on. >> Really? >> I I've we've watched I've watched them either. >> You've watched them? >> Yeah, they I can tell you as soon as you look right out my backyard to the right is where the biggest weed section is. And there's always deer in there having
a great time. It's like a salad bar. >> Yeah, they love it. They sit right there. >> When they're a picture, >> apparently it's like >> well the deer, >> right?
>> They're very adventuring deer. >> They eat only invasives, not your hostas. >> No, they eat my hostas. >> No, they do. They eat all >> Oh god, my poor house. Um okay uh living shoreline grant so um
we are meeting with Stevens Institute on Monday >> um and uh I will be going I think Jesse you're going to be attending that meeting too as a call um with Nick with um and that's Monday to discuss the
potential and the next steps for um for the living shore life. Kelly, this came up with the green team and I didn't know the answer. >> Stevens, are they going to pay for it and do the work or do they just do the plan?
>> Um, I I I think they're just doing the plan. >> Mhm. >> Um, and then I think we have to go to bed. I think that's Yeah, >> I believe. But I I could be wrong. I
wasn't at the original meeting. Um, Susan, you were there? I was there but for a very brief period of time. So no re renumeration was discussed. >> Yeah. >> While I was there. >> Yeah. And I don't >> Were they favorable to any kind of
>> I was there maybe 10 minutes. >> They were definitely favorable. I mean they did say it would have to be some kind of mix just because of some of the stabilization and erosion. But they were very favorable. They said that definitely can some of this will absolutely be
>> okay. can be living shoreline. >> Um so we'll tell you more where that goes from later. Hey y >> um we were when we were at the green we were talking about this um talk whether to I'm gonna try to get go on Sunday and
see the literal society's presentation on living shorelines and do we get them or does Stevens do living shorland presentations if they're actually the ones involved in our town and they're drawing plans would that be interesting for people to see and learn about it so
that everybody understands why it's so great that we're I I just I wondering if Stephen's if you could ask them if they >> do that or >> um Yeah, that would be fun. Good idea. Uh, I'll tell you that
Nick um I mean Zach from ALS when we first met originally to talk about this and he uh about the grant um he proposed that we get in touch with Stevens and so he was the one that kind of brought us together as well too and I said you
should get in touch with them. So they work very closely aligned. Um, so I think between Stevens or ALS, definitely finding out more about what the plan is and then having like some sort of
presentation on the linkage line and also what it might look like at Fairman would be a great idea for residents to get excited about it to learn about an alternative to bulk charge stabilization.
Great. I will definitely ask about that. Um, and then just about these education series, there is the green team is hosting another education series coming up in September 13th.
>> You want to talk about that as well too or talk about anything else that the green team mentioned? >> I told Robin I would mention it. Um, so it's about rooftop solar demo. It's going to be at Robin's house September 13th from 4 to 6. Well, I think that's the time. That was the time that they were looking at.
>> I'm sorry. June. >> Uh September 13th. >> And it's rooftop solar demonstration. >> Roof rooftop solar demonstration. So like residential solar. >> I mean it could be also commercial or >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> And I think maybe Christine Milwaukee's husband is part of it too, right? Is he part of it? Andrew is Andrew part of it. >> Um he does it. I know will be there and >> Sarah >> I know Steve
is there because he has um >> right >> and Robin always hosts a nice party nice a nice event. So >> welcome. >> Yes. >> Um so that's just September. So, as we're thinking about some of these
education series, just to keep that >> there. Maybe I'll pull it up. >> Okay. Yeah, that' be good. >> Yeah. >> Since our last time was March, >> it feels like some issues are >> Yeah. that we need to communicate some
less. So, >> totally. >> Um, great. >> Okay. Any other um current business? Um I just have a question. When we talked about where was it now river update at one point we were discussing a
QR code and we went to where is that um you have the website right >> the QR code for the river conditions. Didn't we have a conversation? >> We created the site. Um we have to find a place to host it. Um, I have I have it
local here and every time you open it up, it updates. Um, but where do we want to put it? I could put it on one of my servers and I don't know. >> I don't mean to be a stickler, but it does make me concerned if it something from the burrow is being hosted just
somewhere else. I think it I think it needs to be hosted on the website on the bur website. on the do they have a do they have a if it's just hosting it won't work. It has to be sitting on a
like a a um I don't know how to explain it. Um like an active server host. >> We want to be act we want to be updating it with weekly. >> It's not just a website. It's >> so you would have to update it. >> It's not okay. Okay. No, it updates itself if it's on a like it has to be on
a Unix, not just a It can't be like a Nixel. I'm sorry. It can't be like a a Wix server. >> It can't be a Squarespace. It has to be an actual web server. >> I mean, ours is a web server. >> I don't >> because we have just be linked.
>> Well, that's we can link it to a >> Yeah, >> we can link it. >> Yeah. >> I don't know if that's okay if it's hosted. Why don't we bring this up when we talk about the communications? I think that would be it because I that's maybe beyond >> I don't know
that it's not actually a website. It's a it's a >> I got you an app. >> So it has to in order to be able to populate that information, it needs to be sitting somewhere else. But I do think that >> we should have it on the web. I mean I think it should be on the web here.
>> Yeah. today's quality or this week's river quality, you know, because I think a lot of people are concerned about, >> especially now as it's starting to be season of swimming and sailing and boating and crabbing people's going back
to we talked about posting a QR code at the at the different entry points. Yes. >> Once the site is up, >> once that site is up, >> connect to it, right? We should bring that up too because that's signage. >> Yeah.
>> Or we could or we could at least >> indicate in our >> Yes. >> you know, newsletter or whatever that we do, our EC page that >> new this year monitoring water quality. Here's how to get it.
>> Um, >> I mean, because I really want people to be going to our website as a resource and going to the EC page as a resource for things. I mean, that's I think ideal. >> That's ideal. Is it realistic? >> I know. Well, >> well, >> depends on what people want to put on there.
>> We've talked about like having link to an environmental page with a lot of other resources. >> Well, and again, like it should put >> Yes. But again, like because I know I like I feel like a broken record, but
like it is burrow information, so it really has to be on the burrow website. We can't have these like V rogue websites. >> Understood, you know. >> I know. >> Yeah. So, but I like personally support all the environmental. I think the more information we can get out there, um I
just I think the more you give, >> send it. Yeah. Yeah, >> like create it, send it, and then it's a yes or >> hosting and the only other option was, and I had talked with Anna about this when we were just spitballing on the phone, was
give the app to uh Clean Ocean Action and just say, "Here, I built this. >> I don't want it. >> I don't want to put it on a fair clean ocean action host it." And then we just say, "You can have clean it." So, it's kind of like, "Hey guys, we built you
something cool. Do you want it?" >> Yeah. >> You know, so that's another option, too. >> Okay. >> Cuz >> you may have to let me understand a little more how it works. >> I have I Yeah, I have to I have to So, firefighter named George Crestler is 21
and a lot smarter than me. >> Okay. >> Built it. You know, I did the you know, the whole thing with him. I worked with him. >> You know, he got it working. Mh. >> Um, and so he knows >> all about it. >> Yeah. >> And I was like, "How'd you do this?"
Because I kept doing it the, you know, apparently I'm old now. Um, the old man way. And he was like, "No, you got to do it this way." >> And he's taking data from like 40 websites, you know, Ocean, I don't know where, you know, and pulling it all together and making a dashboard at it.
It would be 40 different lakes, but it has everything from like, you know, apparently you can't eat shellfish from anywhere unless it's a a town that has a harvest and knows how to wash it correctly. It needs to be washed like four times or something like that. You know all about that. Um, so that's
really interesting. Like there's a little caveat link where it says, "Please don't eat any of the shellfish unless you know it's been double, you know, osmosis washed or something like that." Um, so like Highlands, all of the people
that fish in Highlands have the license to wash it after they capture it. It's all very interesting. >> Um, so there's, you know, it's a lot of information in one little dashboard. >> We just have to make sure that the information we're giving is accurate.
That's that would be my >> other things was we went through all the accuracy of it. >> Yeah. If you could maybe give a quick description in writing so that like when we're presenting it we can explain it a little bit better. >> Yeah, maybe you could communication session. Sure. Yeah, that'd be great.
>> It would be great if you had some kind of physical sign at the dock. So, it just makes people aware of, oh, this is a living body of water and the conditions that affect it just raise awareness. >> It changes daily, right? Static. Um,
yeah. I like that idea. >> Isn't there Isn't that You can open that thing, can't you? Like, isn't the the thing at the dock? You can open that, isn't it? >> Oh, right. Running from >> Yeah. I think like I mean, so that's not then it's not a sign that we have to
fire. >> Yeah. The fish threshold. >> Yeah. So, I think that that's a replaceable. >> Um, okay. We'll bring that up with our communication. Uh, administrative
planning board update. >> Uh, we had a meeting and we approved the 5:00 opening for a fitness center on River Road and they're getting compiling all the data from the survey for the master plan. >> Okay. >> And that's basically vetted and worth
the meeting. >> Okay. >> I know council is doing a change as far as the times or something. It was proposed or it was at the it was workshopped. >> It was workshopped that something could being changed back. >> Yeah. So um
this ordinance would say that the planning board wouldn't be able to change um or wouldn't be able to approve any of those amend um was it zoning change? I don't know what what was it? It was a >> operation or we're changing times new
ordin >> but they you would planning board wouldn't be able to make those decisions. it would have to go to the zoning board or anything like that. That would be the change to take away the planning board's ability to uh amend that or I'm not getting the right words.
>> No, you just switch it from one board to another. So, you're on planning and signing, >> but it was a gosh, I don't know. Do you know? So, it's a specific way like Oh, I wish you were there. Were you there? What was it? It's I'm not going to get
the right phrasing. It was >> I thought it now made it impossible for either board. >> Yeah, that's when I read it. It was nobody can make a change unless the council makes >> that's what was explained. >> No, it has to go straight to council then, >> right? >> I believe so.
>> So to prevent other fitness places saying, well, you gave it to this one. >> Well, it's not Yeah, it's not necessarily it's anyone, >> right? But I'm just saying open the door. >> But it wasn't just ours. It was if this is where I'm going to get it wrong. Hold
on. I'll get the ordinance. Bold that one. But so basically it would Yes. You wouldn't be able to amend. It's not amend ordinance essentially. It's not the right word or >> No, I think it's for any >> Oh, really? That's why I'm going to find
Let me find it. Give me a second. Um, do you want me to give my updates real quick? >> Sure. Sure. >> Okay. So, um just not that this is really falls under you, but kind of falls under everyone. Um is the cherry trees on Fair Haven Road are getting um
pruned. They have to get pruned because Mammoth County came back when we had all those discussions about the safety of the corner of Fair Haven Road and uh Ridge. It we were in um we weren't compliant because of the site. So, they're they're going to prune it, but
just to let everyone know that that is happening and I don't think they'll do like what the JCPNL did. That was terrible. Um, Living Shoreline, you talked about Oh, the I guess that was kind of it.
I think that was all of them. We kind of talked about everything during the meeting. >> Real quick, are they do anything as far as the traffic on that road like a light or anything? Yeah, it's good. >> Circle roundabout.
It hasn't been fully decided, but I think the one that everyone's leaning towards is the the >> roundabout roundabout at the end of the >> How they could How will that affect you somewhere during that? >> I know it will cut into part of Fair Haven Fields a little bit into the natural area, but like only one of the
corners. >> Um I mean, some trees probably will have to come down, but I don't I don't know that. I mean I I don't think they've gone that far. >> Is there gonna be a roundabout with like a thing in the center like like >> I don't
pay attention to the hazard or my car. >> I think they're going to from what I understand they'll also have to change the grading. >> The grading. Yeah, the grading has to change as well. So >> if you open for the light, it would be fine. If they're going to grade the hill, they might as well just grade the
hill. light is and the traffic packs up and somebody's going hour. >> Yep, I get it. >> Biggest problem is speed. That's the biggest issue. Slow. >> From what I understand, the reason that they said that the traffic circle was
the best way because it it it doesn't slow down traffic as much. It doesn't it moves faster. >> Because if they had to make a left, you'd have to make the And also, you'd have to lose more land because you'd have to make the left turn. You'd have to make another um >> lane. people beating the red lights and all that stuff.
>> So, it seemed like it was the safest, the easiest flow of traffic, but I don't think anything's been decided. >> County was willing to pay for it. >> Yes. Well, that's that is a big piece of it. Counties are willing to favor natural area.
>> We were we were walking through the natural area the other day. It was the I I'm terrible at like naming where that is. Just the I guess it's the west the northwest corner >> like if um of the natural it's the
southeast corner. You're talking about >> No, she's saying like northwest >> of the road. The corner that >> the corner where the cherry trees are. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> By the stop sign. >> Could they not just put They're going to put light there up above the hill. have
a a attached light that says light is flashing yellow backing up. >> Yeah, >> backing up on all four sides >> because then you have to make four lanes because you need left and right turns. >> Is it really about that? Is it a safety issue?
>> Accidents in the beginning of this year alone on that corner. >> Okay. >> As as an EMT, I will tell you that those are the two worst corners. Okay. >> I've seen some horrific actually was that one last week at that corner. Yeah, >> it's that's a bad corner. Yeah.
>> My kids to avoid >> subtract go to hand right to hand. I I never >> I never cross ridge. >> Yeah. >> I never cross I go up and down ridge. You never cross ridge. >> Yeah. >> Ever tough.
>> Go up and down ridge. Make lefts and rights but don't go across bridge. >> Turn and turn. >> That's a county. That's a county road. I mean, so they they've actually started >> they've started talking about it talking about it. >> It's been at least two years because I think it's not that rude.
>> It's going to be here. I mean, it's not this isn't happening now, but the the fact that they've gotten this far because you couldn't even get the county to really talk about it before. >> Was a year ago when showed up to that? >> Yeah. >> There was a very vocal when the kids said you, you know, a lot of parents.
>> It was a Jeep and a pickup truck and one would fly in that way and one would fly that way. off of each other. >> Kenny is apparently I think they have like some interactive by the site now that you can really go to any location that you think and put in.
>> I would love your statistics on the just your >> concerns. Yeah, they should have an accident statistics man like what corner has >> cuz I bet you bright red. >> Yeah.
>> Um, okay. Just >> they have a meeting. >> Also following up for anybody on the EC, is anybody interested in being our person for site plans? Like any site plans that come our way? You know, remember anything that has to be filed with the DP or on the river or any kind
of plans or permitting needs to come through um needs to come through the environmental commission. You can get trained. We can have an Jack come here and teach us what we should be looking at for these site plans. I honestly
have you ever >> I can do it. >> You want to? Yes, Jesse. >> I do. I do this normally. You are the person. Great, Jesse. So, I'm going to send you go Christy gets them, right, Christy? >> Just like speaking of >> Yeah. And so, she can send them to you
because it would be nice. And I'm not to say that we can't have Anga come in for $300. they could come on and do a a training with us on what to look, but maybe you could even Jesse do a little like inservice training and just what you would look at and what are some
things that kind of highlight, you know, or or that would be awesome. >> Yeah. No, absolutely. Since I do this kind of normally for my usual day-to-day job anyway, um that's that's an easy that's an easy one for me. >> Oh, Jesse, that's awesome. Great. Um, and speaking of sight lines, I think
that although the question arose too from like the third street, I mean fair haven road construction. Um, and even, you know, I know that they planted those cherry trees on Marter Pond and they put up those that fencing around, but you
know, it'd be nice for the environmental commission to also get privy or some kind of description of these streetscape projects or any public space projects as well too because especially with Marter Pond, I feel like we've been talking about Martond ever and the practices
that we're going to be writing up and the keys and I know Nick and DPW on it. But we've also been talking about trying to do a rain garden there for a long time. And um that might have been something that we could have done before they put down the fill and grassed,
right? And so I just think that maybe the environmental commission might want to weigh in or just see the ideas or suggestions of what the plans of what is going on on some of the public property. >> Collaboration things started so we could
uh like coordinate with everybody but also weigh in on what the town is doing. That whole issue about the planting that grass all over the recycling that stuff. It was kind of a that's a conflict here, >> right? And I and I think you know I
asked Chris York about that and he's like I you know but I just want to formal you know formally request that we also can >> Aren't we supposed to be seeing those anyway? I mean, I know we've seen uh stuff on like the pocket parks even though it's too late, but we should be
seeing that anyway, especially since we have the ERRI that kind of is and like we're reviewing like when site plans come in, we should be seeing these to provide comments on them and we haven't >> right. She was given I mean to the um
which was good. They they weighed in on the Marter Pond trees. They were told they were told because they were all they were all cherry trees non natives but you know that's also a big highlight and we know that with the RRI and the
water story of flooding and I think that's why we wanted to plant rain gardens and other kind of plantings that would that could alleviate and also because we're adding a lot more because of the taking away the parking lots there you know maybe just having some weigh in on on some of that stuff or
just maybe not even weigh in But just to be kept up to speed, >> we should review but how do we get it done? I mean we're talking to ourselves about it right now. So I had asked Chris after that um because on that meeting at that meeting
um speaking about it the recommendation was to ask Chris about it and so I asked him um I would like to make sure so I would love to have council backing just be like can you please as they like pass this EC along pass it to the EC
um and with Drew when he was our leazison he at least showed us and walked us through the TPW and the PD vegetation plans >> which was great and we got we're able to weigh in to some degree right but at least just to have
>> input on that stuff. >> Yep. We'll bring that up also at the >> especially as 21 Fairhood Roads coming up and you know if there's any other different project right and that was part of the having this meeting was that some parks require or don't need as much
management or maintenance as others right some are more passive some are more active sports fields >> yeah um I found the >> yes you were correct so it is specifically about the hours. So, um
this is I guess the line the burough council desires to amend chapter 30 to eliminate the exception permitting any municipal agency to authorize operation outside the permitted hours of operation through site plan approval such as the hours of operation restriction shall
apply shall apply uniformly to all businesses, offices and commercial activities except those whose hours are regulated by government law, regulation or ordinance. So basically it's taking >> nobody can change it. >> No one can change it. It can come to us, >> right?
>> But should I say it one more time? >> So they're eliminating the exception permitting any municipal agency to authorize operation outside of the permitted hours that are that are already our law. And so no one like
according to the site plans like they can't modify any of the operations um including the planning board. This CL calls out planning board and zoning board specifically of adjustments. So it hasn't been passed yet. Well, it
got through the first reading, but it hasn't been approved yet. That would be next time. Um, something I thought of just on a side note talking about like seeing things. The Shade Tree Commission is reviewing the tree ordinance again and I
did suggest that once they do a first pass of it to send it out to you guys. >> Thank you. >> Anything else? >> Yeah. >> Um, about the survey, you said the results are coming out soon.
>> No, we're getting the results. I guess the results are coming in and I guess they have to break it down or whatever they have to do. So survey is over but now I guess they have to put the results into however they do a database or something. >> At what point are representatives of
this committee she read the magic when I mean they said they wanted to input >> I can't as far as I can't answer that. >> Oh >> just so you know I haven't seen the results. >> Okay. Like we haven't I heard anecdotally >> a good turnout though.
>> I heard it was a good turnout like 15% or something like that. It's 18 whatever it is but that's >> 672. >> Yeah. I mean but that's the extent of >> Yeah. You're the leazison to the board.
>> Yes. >> I got >> Okay. Yes. Just an update on the green seal that was tabled by the council lasting. >> Um I don't think we got anywhere. I don't think anything's happened since. But
>> is it on the agenda? >> No. Would you like >> Well, they said they were tableabling it to get more information and then they would revisit it. So I don't know enough about council business to understand how that works. I think they wanted more
information from us, >> which which we do. Do we end up giving them everything he asked for? >> Wanted to check. >> He did, but remember Chris sent us an email that said like, "Can you tell us this, this, this, and this?" >> Yeah, I thought we did, though. >> I don't remember. Let me look back. I
don't I think I don't think we did. I will check. Check >> just because I think the biggest um objection to it was that it was unfair to the non-participating businesses. And after we've seen so many town programs
that um had business sponsors, I I didn't understand the objection. >> I I would agree. All right. >> Um Bonnie and I will be at the sustainable Jersey conference at work
summit. >> I'm missing it. Sure to be some good stuff and I will find out to send me information about that or any information. I wonder if they have like invasives
invasives >> living shoreline they have >> invasives any recommendations I don't know if they would >> they have a lot on vehicles and energy that seem to be their big focus. Yeah, there's a member from the board of
Vancou. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, if there's no other public no public comments, are there any public comments online? Would you raise your hand? >> Joseph.
Hey everyone. Uh yeah, I'm Joe. I'm from Clean Ocean Action. Um so yeah, thank you guys for the meeting and I wanted to talk Yeah, just a little bit about the website idea you guys had. I think we would definitely be on board to have to
like host some sort of um live water quality update. We've actually been talking a lot about doing something similar to that and we're always happy for for more signage. Um, obviously we know there's a lot of like hoops to jump through for that, but um, yeah, we would
definitely be happy to keep talking about that and figuring out something we can do. We want to make sure um, since like you guys brought up also like sometimes the water quality can be a little like unclear in what sort of um,
measurements are being taken or what's being quantified of is it like shellfish quality or recreation. So, we're working on making sure that that information is clear as well. Um, so yeah, we'd definitely be happy to talk more about that. Um, and one other thing I did want
to mention is I've actually uh tried notweed uh a few times. Um, we my girlfriend likes to uh forage actually and we tried it in uh like a stir fry and it was actually pretty good. So, I don't know if you guys want to
>> mention that. based restaurant. >> I was going to say restaurant. Yeah. >> Joseph, do you have an email address that I could write chop down real quick? I would love to email you and and demo you the website and and or maybe you could point me in the right direction
for the person that I should demo it to and they could have a whole conversation on what we've aggregated because it's not just clean ocean action information. It's >> of, you know, New Jersey DP. We went we went you know all out with the
information to give the most uh you know relevant and and complete information. So I would love to talk to you about it, demo it and and find a place to host it and I would gladly give it to you guys. You can brand it and call it your own.
>> Yeah, for sure. Um yeah, definitely reach out to me. Uh just the email is uh programscleaction.org. Um and I'll also loop it you in with our uh water quality specialist uh Dr. Swarna Mutu Krishnan. So we'll we'll be
in touch with you. >> That's awesome. And I will have to pull in my team of two or three people but um we can make it happen and I would love to do it. >> All right, sounds good. Thank you guys. >> Sounds great. >> Thanks for being on our meeting. >> Appreciate it.
>> I'm glad you can. >> Yeah. Any other comments? Please raise your hand. Okay. No. No more public. No more public comments. >> All right. Um, can I get a motion to adjourn? So,
all right. We're coming. I didn't get what >> anything else. Believe God.