Okay, I will call meeting to order. I call meeting to order. This is the regular meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission. Adequate notice of this meeting has been given pursuant to provisions of the Open Public Meetings Act. At the time the board reorganized in January of this year, the
board adopted its regular meeting schedule for the year. Notice of the schedule was sent and was published in the Asbury Park Press on January 30th, 2026 and in the November Times on February 12th, 2026. That notice was also posted on the bulletin board in Borough Hall and has remained
continuously posted there as is required by the statute. A copy of the notice has been available to the public and is on file at the office of the Borough Clerk. A copy of the notice has also been sent to members of the public as have requested such information, also in accordance with the statute. Adequate
notice having been given, board secretary is directed to include this statement in the minutes of this meeting. Uh, can we get a roll call? >> Yes, Mr. Pavlov. >> Here. >> Mr. Anderson. Mr. Slover. Mr. Fallon. >> Here. >> Ms. Restorick. >> Here.
>> Ms. Casey. >> Here. >> Mr. Fallon. >> Here. >> Ms. Krupnick. Mr. Smith. >> Here. >> Okay, so I already told some of the applicants that we're going to go in a little bit of a reverse order cuz I believe on Zoom, we have Laura Burwen from the Goldstein
Partnership who's going to be who has limited time and is going to be providing us with an update as to the work that both her and her firm has been doing with regard to Bicentennial Hall. Do we have her on Zoom? >> Yes. Laura, can you hear me?
>> I'm I'm here. Can you hear me? >> Yes, we can. >> Yeah, hi Laura. So, welcome. Just state your name for the record if you could. >> Laura Burwen from the Goldstein Partnership Architects. >> Okay, and just briefly for the people in the audience and also for the benefit of
the the entirety of the commission, just briefly tell us the basis of your role with regard to Bicentennial Hall and the Gold Team partnership in terms of what you've been doing. >> So, we have been engaged to produce the construction documents to
do repairs to the building, the foundation, the windows, re-puttying, the re-painting, and then also some interior re-painting and acoustical
improvements. >> Okay, and we did receive, it looks like it's dated February 27th 26. Um It is a um It's a 22-page document outlining the scope of the work and a and a variety of the other things that are being done.
Um is that current as to what's happening? >> So, I actually um the the construction documents are essentially complete and were submitted to the municipality mid-May. Um I thought that all of you would have had them in hand at this point. So, the
full-size documents and the specs, I don't know what you have in there is it if they've made them mini versions, right? >> Well, yeah, like I said, we do have a document that's it's entitled Demolition and Removal section 1 1B01 entitled General
Conditions and then >> So, you have the specifications in front of you. That's what you have. You don't have Apparently, you don't have the drawings in front of you, right? >> I I was just going to show it to you. >> No, I I mean, I just share this with what was given to me. >> Is that Is that it, Charles? >> Uh-huh. >> That's um
>> That's for the landscape. >> the landscape drawings. >> No, no, we have drawings. >> No, we do have them. >> I have them. Sorry. >> Okay, yes, so what I am looking at here is um It is the Gold Team partnership, of course. It is a um
set of uh uh elevations and blueprints. It looks like it's dated again February 27th and 26th. We have um A1 through We have A1, we have A2, P1, E1,
and E2. Is that uh is that what we're Is that the entire >> Uh there should be a C Was there a C1 in there or civil drawing? >> No, there wasn't. >> Oh, yes, there is a C1. >> Okay. Now you have it all, absolutely.
>> Okay, so uh we've had an opportunity to take a look at some of this. Maybe tell us a little bit about currently what's happening and and what's uh in the offing. >> Hey Marcus, I have a question. These are dated February, but did I hear there's also a version dated May?
>> No, no. It I We kept Originally, we were supposed to put this out to bid earlier. I just My electrical and plumbing engineers who did the um P1, M1, E1 drawings uh were complete by December and we had dated the drawings that February date,
so I backdated my complete ones to them so that they didn't have to change things. So, it's all the same set. >> Thank you. >> So, I think my question would be again to talk to us generally about uh you know, what's contained in the specifications and in the plans in terms of the work you mentioned briefly about
repotting, replacement of windows, and sort of maintenance items. Uh maybe expand a little bit more in terms of just the scope of at least the initial work that is planned on being done. >> Um so, the maintenance items as we discussed outside. Um and then uh
additionally outside, uh that C1 drawing shows a bike rack in the front. It shows a fenced garbage enclosure that is going to be around the back of the building. And the P1, M1, uh E1 drawings show the
generator that is going to be added at the back of the building as well. So, all of that will be hidden from view. Um and then really the goal is to get the building in good shape again, right? On the outside in the front and what's
visible. Uh now on the interior, um there is painting. There is the addition of a gallery rail at the top of the vertical walls. And there is an add alternate for some acoustic ceiling paneling to help with
dampening the noise in the space. >> Okay. And the acoustic that the acoustic is a tile that is going to be on the ceiling and is going to be is going to be placed It is placed solidly throughout the entire ceiling?
>> It is not a tile. It is um vertical slats with gaps in between them. Um that absorb the noise because there's a felt that backs those vertical slats so that noise is absorbed. So, it is not an acoustic tile ceiling like you're
thinking about. It is um the product specified is called Rulon. Obviously, this is a public job. We accept equals, but it is actually a a wood finish product. >> Um was there anything that was identified when um
the inspections were had that will require significant modification or anything that will be either in the exterior or the interior very significant with regard to modifying any of the elements of the building? >> So, the only two things that are visible
outside the painting, right? Is there is an existing chimney on the right side of the building, which is not original, which will be removed, right? Because it is no longer functioning. And then on the storm windows on the
windows after they are re-puttied, there was a suggestion to put storm windows on them that has a a low-E coating on the glazing of the storm window to protect those finishes, right? The re-puttying of the windows is required because of the UV degradation, and you could slow
that down. Um and we found a very good match to the colors that came from the um chemical analysis, so that's specified in there as well. >> All right. And in terms of the visual of that storm window, not really that good.
I can't really tell from the plans. Is there um how drastically does that change the exterior look? >> Um so it should not I had sent separately some pictures and the specifications. I don't know if you got
that package of things. Um so that you could take a look at what was specified a little more closely. Um the the horiz- the windows are very tall, so they cannot do it in one frame. There will be a horizontal band. The
horizontal band will match the main sash of the windows where they are now. So it should not visually have a huge impact. >> Have all the windows uh they're all able to be maintained and and preserved, all the windows that are on the structure?
>> Yes. And now the only window that we will not be putting a storm window on are the circular ones because that one would look wrong. >> And it's right now, so this has been all submitted and you're waiting for a response from the bureau as to what elements they're going to be moving on?
>> Uh correct. From my understanding, we're waiting on a response from this commission to then be brought to the bureau. >> Okay. Um any thoughts or comments or questions from anyone on the commission?
>> Yeah. Yeah, hi there. Steve Howard. Um in the document, it says that the um architect gives final approval for materials and colors. Uh is the color scheme in this document cuz I didn't see it anywhere.
>> The So, what The The specifications call for the paint and for actual swatches to be submitted. So, they're going to actually give us paint samples that we can then say, "Yes, this is a
good match. No, this is not." And you would want to match, obviously, the chemical analysis, right? >> Right, yeah. >> For further clarification, I spoke to borough administrator Chris Yourth before this meeting and he says he has the memo from the HPC and so far there's
no pushback on the color. So, once you approve this, it'll be brought to the borough and we can move forward with the intended color. >> So, we're In In approving this, we're approving that color that was recommended by >> Well, I think we've already made Yeah, we've already made a conclusion
regarding to the color. It doesn't appear that Laura is going to be um Ms. Burrows is going to be pushing the color. Uh it's something that the borough has to make the decision on. And um am Am correct on that? Is Is that remaining with regards to the color and everything?
>> So, what's in the specification is that they will then produce, um, you know, 8 1/2 by 11 swatches of color for you to then again, as a second run, say, "Yes, this is what we are approving."
But, that will be down the line once the contractor is hired and engaged, right? That's second approval, right? >> Anybody else? Anybody from Zoom have any questions or comments? >> I just have a question. This came up at
our last meeting. On the storm windows, um, what is the maintenance of the inside of the storm windows pretty straightforward? >> Uh, yes. >> Mr. We don't have an illustration of storm windows. That's obviously a big
>> Right. Yes, you Yes, you'll be able to do that. >> So, I mean, I don't know that anything will be decided yet. I think the social storm windows, but I Correct. So, good question. >> The for historical significance, um, if they look good on day one, but on day 100, all of a sudden we see a clouding
or something, is it the the number one unique aspect of that building that we talked about is how the light comes in, and I That's all I really care about is to make sure that the maintenance of that much I'm assuming the bureau would need you to just take care of that as you go.
>> Yes, the the glazing in the storm window is not an insulated panel, which is are the ones that often get fogged up that have two layers of glass. It is just a single layer of glass that will have a UV treatment on it, like most new glazing does, in order to basically help preserve what's behind
it. >> Um, anybody from Zoom? Anybody Zoom do you any questions? >> No. >> If there's nothing else, I don't know. We can let you go probably. We appreciate the time. We know you're on a tight schedule, so we got you ahead of schedule. >> I I appreciate you taking me out of
order as I move to my next board. >> [laughter] >> Sorry about that. It was double booked. >> Thanks chance and uh do what you got to do. >> Thank you, Laura. >> All right. Thank you. >> Is there anything else that we need to supplement with on this call now? >> I beg your indulgence. We'll get back to
him. Maybe we'll take Mr. Prague and then we'll get back to it afterwards. Then we'll take you out of Pennsylvania. Is there anything any other issues that have to do with the residence that >> Not to my knowledge. And
>> All right. So, the other thing that we were presented with is the landscape architecture design that I know that Stephen Prague has prepared a those what do they call it? Illustration. >> And we have them here and um
>> Who would like to go first? Can I go first? >> I can go. It's fine. Whatever. >> You can do it your way. I still prefer you. >> I have reductions of or the digital rendering. >> We have a colleague >> That's very good. >> This is This is Stephen Prague himself for the record. >> Stephen Prague, landscape architect.
>> Okay. And this Prague with all the information provided with it is where we find the date on here. Project 2601, we have sheet L1. I don't have a date. Date looks like it's May 2026. So, with what you have to provide us with is
>> May 2026. >> Okay. All right. May 2026. So, tell us what your task what you were tasked to do and and I'll us with an explanation of which you can go. >> So, I've been and I would like to acknowledge the work that the historic
association has done on this project also. So, I've been interfacing collaborating with them and that group is real asset to the to the bureau. They they were brought really informed thoughtful commentary to the preparation
and level of the drawing. I'll take responsibility for everything in here but but I I want to acknowledge that that it was it's been a pleasure dealing with that with that group. So, Most of you are probably familiar with the site so I won't go through a really
detailed description but on this plan obviously Cedar Avenue is on the bottom. North is to the to the left and the building is obviously centered in the on the site plan and just briefly in terms of the the site
itself I don't know if you walked it recently or that familiar with it. Obviously the building sits on a very nice plateau. However, the the northern property line as well as portion of the east rather precipitous topography to it which is poses a little
bit of a physical constraint to improvements to the site. Nothing nothing dangerous but but it it's something to keep in mind and then secondarily the site also has mostly along the three perimeter
property lines around there are large population shade trees. On my plan I admitted the canopy of a lot of those trees because it would have obscured what's on the on ground but a large percentage of those existing
trees are either dead dying or damaged in some fashion. Some of them are are actually unsafe and so part of the process of developing the landscape on the this site would involve selective removal of those trees and that's something that
would be done. It's not indicated on this plan but it would be a sort of a first phase if you would to to basically secure the site so we don't have trees falling on people or and
those trees are are largely Norway maple and and locust which you're probably familiar are the classic weed trees of Monongalia County and we're certainly not planted by anyone other than maybe a bird dropping dropping seeds at some point.
But I mean so in terms of the development of the plan there are a number of considerations that are brought to bear on a site like this. The ones that I dealt with the most vigorously obviously we start with the history of the site as you know
it's the oldest residential or religious structure on the peninsula and therefore anything that we we do on the site we want to be sort of differential to to that that condition which which basically means that
obviously even though it's it's located in a residential setting doing anything that amounts to a standard residential or sort of suburban foundation planting is obviously completely inappropriate. And on the other hand it it's not
we're not attempting any way to do like a historic Colonial Williamsburg sort of sort of development here and that's not really called for either. However the way the building presents itself to the to the road in my mind it it even if
it's not the site of religious ceremonies right now it seems to me as though we should sort of acknowledge that that it that it's it's it's it's started its life providing that sort of service and therefore it doesn't need
a grand landscape, but it needs something that that acknowledges the building is complimentary of the architecture even though you know again at the time that it was built it's highly unlikely that that there would have been a lot of planting around the building or whatever. But but
what we would like is when you when a passerby or a user approaches the building that there is a little bit of a sense of ceremony if you would you know approaching the building. So on my plan you'll notice where the where the existing brick walkways are.
What this is showing is some little low evergreens and a little bit of perennial plantings things that would would suggest that that the building is being cared for it's it's actively being being used also when when you have a garden
you can you have flowers and whatnot. It suggests that there there is a a bit of importance to the to to the structure. Right now it has two large Hollies on either side of the front walkway which are actually almost obscuring part
of the facade of the building. So this plan actually suggests uh transplanting those two Hollies over to the northern property line where we need some additional screening of the commercial building to the north. And
and again some rather subtle low plantings that would not have a high maintenance requirement. But again the idea being that that we want the the building to make a little bit of a subtle statement that this is something
that is that is special. And and again we don't we don't need to go overboard with that. But and so and one of the other things about obviously a site like this and it's already obviously the bureau makes use of the
the interior of the hall regularly. We want to think about what functional aspects there could be to to the site and so part of what this plan is suggesting is that especially to the south of the building that
the irregular bed lines and some of the weedy trees or what not would literally be pushed back to toward the property line a bit and thereby open up a wider lawn area that could be used for for events that would
you could could erect a tent there let's say etc. And in keeping with that the what you see in the the southeastern corner of the the site is a proposed paved terrace. The idea there
being that right now this is a lot of lost real estate back there. It's kind of weedy and what not. The neighbor to the south by the way had a vegetable garden on the property at one point. >> [laughter] >> Passed through and see the little compost and little wire fence. Someone
was They conveniently when they put up their own fence in the backyard, they put a gate that went onto your property. And that's all that that that all that use is has been extinguished but the thought thought was that it would
also be helpful depending upon what sorts of activities would go on the site to have an actual paved surface and we there because of the the topography there there's about a two-foot grade change that the property falls toward the toward the southeastern corner here.
So if we were to build like a little low seat wall we could we could level this area out and so this is showing that the circle that you're looking at there is approximately 25 [clears throat] ft in diameter. So it's big enough for a small group but it's not it's not like a
huge it's not an urban plaza in other words. And by the way, the the paving pattern that you see on there is representative of the the little window above the the front door as that quatrefoil pattern to the the mullions. And so,
that's a subtle thing that that would be obvious in the in the aerials, but but it was just again sort of deferring to the building and and trying to weave together what's happening on the >> But is that something that when you're there, you anticipate that the pattern
would be noticeable if you're on the patio? >> If there are depending upon the choice of the materials, I think it could either be a textural change or a color or or or both. >> Recognize it as as mimicking the window? >> I think it would be it's it's not a
common pattern, so I think someone that is coming to this site might knowing that they're on a historical property might might recognize it, right? And it really doesn't add to the cost of that. It's a matter of choosing materials. So,
um One of the other aspects to to the site is I mean, we hear every day about you know, the number of birds that have been killed due to, you know, habitat disturbance and whatnot. It it's appropriate on a site like this where we we do want to add some
landscape without without it it being something that that is you know, has a high maintenance requirement. But but it is an opportunity to and and all of the proposed plant material would be native plant material. The sorts of things would be sort of
native Monmouth County plants and most of which, as you know, you know, have the fewest bug and disease problems and whatnot. No landscape, of course, is no maintenance. So, we want to be be careful about the the choice of that. But and there was some conversation at the
historic association about if we had some of these these sorts of plantings that things could actually be labeled so there could be like an educational aspect to this as well. Again, we don't want to go overboard but it it really it provides an opportunity
for that. And so that's also why you'll you'll notice there there are a number of places where there are benches indicated that if this right now the site doesn't isn't very welcoming looking and part of it is just that the tree can
can't be covered and whatnot is almost aggressive but but the expectation is that with some of these somewhat subtle changes that it would be a place where I mean you can easily come in and sit
and take advantage of the the new the new landscaping and whatnot. So uh uh So the um I know well there's some coordination issues with your architect and things like the the the the trash containers and other
things but that that can all be be worked out as as the project moves forward. That we also want to acknowledge that we do have neighbors here as well and so
I don't know what the the formal legal process is for dealing with them but but for example the neighbor to the to the south their house is in close proximity to the property and what So the the expectation is that that any of the landscaping
that we would do would provide if there needed to be a buffer or whatever that that could be done in a part of establishing the the landscape plan. So I I >> [clears throat] >> uh In general I I don't expect that this is
going that there would be well it's going to be a significant upgrade but it's not going to be like oh my god the borough is building this you know tremendous new Versailles you know around around this building. I mean, the idea is really again, as as I stated, we really want the building to present
itself visually from to the road, to passersby as something special. And right now, it it doesn't quite do that. The landscaping hopefully will will be complimentary of the building and then make that help make that that statement while not burdening, you know, the
borough with a lot of maintenance issues. So, >> I just think that this is the ultimate goal. But is there an idea doing things in phases or, you know, once the time is right to kind of implement and do it all? What's the thought on that?
>> Well, I think Chris, can you speak to this better? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, like yeah. This is all First, I want to thank Christina for inviting me tonight. Feels like like culmination of a lot of work. I know people here on this commission care
about it as much as I do. Um in terms of timing, the the the historical association is committed to completing this work in the semi-quincentennial year. We would be ready to go um really
early fall. Um the coordination that um Mr. Croc spoke of in terms of brick work or concrete and the enclosures and the generator, that's all that coordination is happening. Um there is a commitment on the part of the
borough to have the the building work completed this year. Some of those things depend on staff completing the um the bid documents. There's a piece of the work that has to go back out to
Shippo, the the laugh and the the vertical treatment in the ceiling has to go back out to Shippo for them to sign off. But it is true to our original to the building unlike the ceiling tiles. So, it's older than the ceiling tiles, so we don't expect a problem with shiplap,
but it's still a process. Um >> Is there funding in place to build the new paper on this for the for all the landscape part? >> The funding is in place for the building from the municipality, and I'm really glad you asked about that because um the
historic association had voted to hire a landscape architect to advance this piece of the work. Um and after our meeting with Mr. Croc, he he cares about this property really as much as we do, and he offered his
services pro bono. >> I was going to ask that question, too. We're lucky to have you. >> We are very lucky to have his talent, his commitment, devotion to the same things we care about. So, the historic association is going to take those funds that would have been assigned to pay his fees, combined with
the other funds that were us, you know, anticipated for the work, um and look to complete the work with those funds. So, that yes, maybe by maybe by Thanksgiving, we are we have a ribbon cutting, and
I'm I am an optimist. So, I would like to think the building and the landscaping will be complete by that time. It is a little ambitious, and there these are outside my control, but >> No, I think it's great, and I think that I'm very happy to see this. It's a
historical famous surprise how far how advanced it is. I love the concept of the patio. Um any issues in terms of encroachment in the neighborhood? Is that the same neighbor that had the vegetable garden? Um does it uh is it closest to the rear yard, or is
it anywhere near their house, or anything along those >> It's their It's their rear yard, and and there's an a subsequent an additional neighbor to the southeast, and that is their rear yard, also. And then and the neighbor,
of course, that was using the was was gardening, they already have a 6-ft high fence around their their property. So So, they're they're actually protected. >> And I suspect that the the shrubs around it are also meant to somewhat deal and
provide a buffer. >> Exactly. Exactly. Mhm. >> It looks great. Placement is great, obviously. You know, that's what we expect you to do a great job on these sort of things. So, any questions from the commission? >> Um the only thing that I comment and a
question I I I really am happy the way that you look at this as a way to frame the chapel. And it's not a it's not an architectural landscape sitting there by itself. It's there because meaning and it's supplementing what's what what's already special about the site. And on
the um native plants, I see a lot of shrubbery, which is great, but I I do want to encourage the Historic Association and and uh when they choose the plants, they think about how it will be
maintained. The The town is having a little bit of challenge even the native plants all around the police station. And I'm I'm a native plant person, but it's taking a lot more maintenance than they think. And they uh the perennials move. They don't just sit
there for the most part. They go wherever they want to and it takes people to do a little grooming. So, it's not going to doesn't take a lot of maintenance, but but for the first couple years, it actually does take a lot of maintenance. Um and so, simple might be better in the selection
of the type of native plants that are chosen here. >> It's um Yes, well, without uh engaging [clears throat] in a lecture about native plant material, >> [laughter] >> your your point is well made that people think just because it's native, that
somehow it's a polite plant and it's uh it's going to take care of itself or do what you want it to do, and in fact yes, there there's certainly and and perennials to your point it's exactly right.
For example, there's something called obedient plant that's the least obedient plant that you can imagine. It like will seed itself over your entire backyard. It's a beautiful plant little hole in front of it. So, yes, we would want to make sure that yeah, and I think we don't even really want to
go overboard with the planting. So, also it doesn't doesn't have to be and we don't need to encircle the entire property or or whatever. It's more sort of judiciously placing things amongst the existing trees that are there that we and some of them we
want to we do our retain. I mean, there are some hollies or few junipers, etc. and you know, those things will obviously be retained. So, >> I think it's great. I think it's the way you think about it too because it's so much >> Yeah, and I I echo Steve's comments to about the fact that the whole thing is you know, overwhelmed by the new
plantings. Plantings and things of that nature and and you know, low shrubs and the perennials are going to be pretty great. >> Um I just want to say thank you. You have been you have been such a pleasure to work with. Thank you to Councilman Cole for making
the introduction. You have been so patient, so willing to hear all of our feedback. We've taken a lot around the property with the board and I mean, suggestions and creative meeting. I mean, it's been great
pleasure working with you and you've made it so beautiful and >> Likewise. >> presented here is incredible. So, thank you very much. >> It's been a pleasure. >> It's going to become a landmark of Fair Haven on this town. >> Yeah, I mean, it's actually where most of this stuff is. Any thoughts or comments from the audience?
Thoughts or comments, questions from anyone on Zoom? All right. Thank you very much. Yeah, glad to share your work and yeah, we'll look forward to this. That is that we need neighbors of all we do. >> Hey Arthur, we have Tracy here and she's
the head of 21 Fairhaven Road. Do you want to ask him question? >> You know, are you on a time limitation? >> A little bit. I have Yeah. >> Okay, then just come out and learn. >> It won't take long but there's some new information. >> Yeah, come on out and learn. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, no problem.
>> Patience, guys. >> So, um very quickly, um is the Borough expecting us to render a memorandum of action about what we heard tonight? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um I think that we may have to have a reservation about the storm window
issues since we don't have the visual on that. >> I have a suggestion. Go for it. Um if Christina would like to you know, more ask Sheila to get the cut sheet so you can review it. You can email it and if it satisfies, I know Joe and and you
know, Jay are not here but if you want to just take a look at it. As long as I mean, I think it's going to be fine. I asked the same questions by the way that you did. Um and I was reassured by one answer about the trim which I didn't want to see it. I wanted to disappear into the
building and Laura confirmed that it would they actually make it in the historic color. That would be the trim. So, it it will be she she felt very confident that it would be so. >> a clear piece of plastic that snugly fits on top of it.
>> Yeah. >> Is it fixed or is it something that can be removed and >> That I if I track what Katie was saying, I had the same concern about the clouding but how you actually clean it should it need cleaning is not known. I don't know that. So, I think it seems reasonable to
request the cut sheet. It's an email and you can review it if you have follow-up questions, that would be reasonable. As long as the commission's comfortable doing that, um I think that you know, we don't sort of aggressive time frame. You know, we don't want to wait another month for
that. >> We don't. >> So, I think and that's something we can describe you know, once you get a visual on it, I think we could all probably have a consensus as to what we think about cuz yeah, for expediency and main- maintaining those windows, you can't just have them
exposed to the elements all the time cuz it just you know, they deteriorate to the point that it can't be restored and then you lose it for good and also the expense associated with having it constantly maintained in the elements. >> And I think that there at least one or two have damaged. So, some of those
panes are going to have to be replaced. So, the thought was that that will help to prevent future, you know, storms or I don't think kids are throwing rocks first and I'm not going to say that, but winds produce flying objects. >> I'm certain that you have probably have
gone over this much more thorough than all of us. Are you Are there any concerns or thoughts and I say that not only as a council person, but also as a member of the association being intimately familiar with all this as to any of the maintenance issues, things that sort of raise an amber or a red flag to you in terms of the governing
structure? >> No, and it's a fair question. Those documents have to be reviewed um together. The as it's written, it doesn't make sense unless you have the picture and you can and find the key on the drawing. So, I I I hope that you have everything, but even with it, it's
still kind of a an assignment to go through everything. But it it met my I I've been working on that punch list and keeping track of it for years now at this point. Um and I believe it aligns very much with things you care about. We've been having these conversations
ongoing, so we did take care to have a couple meetings to get it to the point where it is. I think it I think it meets with my expectations. I hope that that's acceptable to the commission.
>> Those kind of suggestions. Very good. >> And then 21 30 >> Oh, yeah. Sorry about >> Um So, >> Stevens Institute >> Yes. Um there was a site meeting with the Stevens Institute and it's for
background Stevens Institute is sort of like recognized as a leader in living shorelines. Uh hybrid living shorelines or even they they acknowledge when something is this is called for engineered shoreline. And um we had a site visit
first part of spring um soon as the winter broke and uh at that site meeting they did not rule out a living shoreline. So, that left us hopeful and we asked them to
work with us to design the right shoreline response to that site. It's unique, but we also feel like it was communicated that it was the desire of the community to have a living shoreline. And we had done a lot of public engagement to be able to say that with confidence. So, they didn't rule it
out. They are preparing um we asked them to prepare a proposal and I mean with today's email we should maybe we'll have that at the end of this week. That proposal was up for the scope of work. It includes design work for um um DeNormandie's living shoreline. Um
and of course that ties into the dock and how that works together and um we talked about um sorry, 21 DeNormandie enhance. So, we move forward with everything? No
danglers or loose ends. Um and we also got a $318,000 grant for that site and we have a high confidence in a 1.5 million, which won't be realized till 2027, but those two things in combination with the
other grants that have already been previously awarded put us in a position to be able to complete a full park design. That will probably take a very long time. The DEP permit office is backed up. If any of you interface with professionals who are
involved in that, um but we still have a lot of environmental assessment work to get through before there's any kind of permit submitted and so Um What else is there? Anything? >> What shoreline is that? How would they
uh the representative areas of the individual form to be, which is the natural beach there, kind of similar to also what's along Fair Haven Road underneath the dock. Is that the thought that it would be a sandy beach line? And would you lose any of the real estate as there if you did it that way? I think
there's an existing breakwater right now, but um >> Yeah. >> kind of dilapidated. >> Yeah, there >> also preserves the amount of property there. If you did >> Agreed. >> the natural shoreline, you might lose some of it. Whether that's been considered >> The um we're going to get that
information. The some of the initial work that was done at Dinardo, which I looked at at six five years ago, um would have actually helped to extend or even reclaim. So, and we would not lose anything. Obviously, we can't account
for a 500-year storm event that you know, there's math for that and it'll be factored in, but the actual impact is unknown, but the um living shoreline as a model or concept
is intended to not help you not lose anything. You don't have to bring back the property to put in, but rather sometimes even come out of the wall. And the breakwaters, if that's part of the design, would run parallel to the property edge. There's many different
components to it. Um the right design response is going to be a matter of the wind, the wave action, the tides, the storm analysis, and that'll be this guidance we'll get from Stevens. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Teresa.
>> You're welcome. I also want to just quickly, this feels like a bookend kind of and Art, I'm looking at you because I remember the meeting um I'd say 5 and 1/2 years ago and I know Jay was there. And the commission was purpose presented
with a plan for bicentennial wall which included a dais, a parking lot, um abandoning the front entrance for just the side door. And um I was at that meeting. >> [laughter] >> And all I can say is it we didn't know
it at the time but that was something of a crossroads. And thank goodness Fair Haven went in a different direction and here we are today. >> Yeah. >> realize all of this stuff. >> I know. That's why I just want to acknowledge you again. Thanks so much for inviting me because it does feel like the culmination of something that
started that long ago, but >> Well, thank you for all of your work. >> Yeah, my pleasure. >> I'm sorry, I have to leave. >> All right, so we'll yeah, we'll talk about these things a little more and give you >> Of course. >> Hello.
All right, so this this is the Videro application, reapplication. Um 66 the normal via the block 48 block 7. Gentlemen just want to identify themselves to the record. >> Uh Brett Feder the owner.
Anthony Condouris the architect. >> Okay. So, I did actually find our prior approvals and Nancy remembered it was for a second. I think you guys the original that came in as an informal. >> Yep. >> Uh went through a bunch of different things. We got some modifications to I
think the front porch. Um and a couple of tweaks to the design that I think everyone was satisfied with. And then you came back again because there was some modifications to I think it was the lower level window uh that just required some modification. I have
dates on that too. So, it looks like the first memorandum that we have um did August 29th of 2024 and then July 17th of 2025. So, tell us what's happened since then. >> Yeah, so we
We had a couple iterations. We originally had three kids then we had four kids and that's why we came back for the the second round. Um and then we went in front of the the zoning board uh cuz there were two variances that we were asking for. Um and we got some feedback from them.
Um we didn't go through a a formal vote but um essentially they they really liked the design and all the feedback that you guys did and Tony put together. Um It's our five lot and they wanted us to uh shrink the house. Um they didn't give us any uh contacts in terms of what they wanted. They just
said they wanted it to to be smaller. Um so >> they were seeking were the side yard setbacks? >> Um no we well we kind of Side yard setback we kind of >> wanted >> It was what pretty much floor area. That was That was the That's the floor area. Yeah. >> Yeah. There was some discussions around
the um the window on the side whether that counts or doesn't count. Um they said leave it. We want that. Makes it look better at the park. Um and essentially it was just square footage. >> So, it was maximum floor area but it was not floor area ratio. >> Not floor area ratio, yeah. We're well
under on floor area ratio, yeah. Yeah. Um, so we took some of that that feedback and did some revised drawings. Um, originally we had five bedrooms on the second floor. We took away a bedroom and did some other modifications on the
the second floor that Tony can kind of walk you through it. Um, but again, the biggest aesthetic changes are um, the I call it the bump out, I know it's not the right word, on the north side where the staircase is, it just looks a little bit different now. Um, and then on the
rear of the home, the east and east, um, above what is the dining room on the second floor, that was a bedroom. Um, that's that's gone now and that's just a roof. And then on the south side, um,
it just it looks it looks different and we incorporated uh, we shrunk that down. There's a little less little uh, peak there um, that you see is but that's kind of the the crux of the the changes, right? >> Right, yeah. >> What you know, I forgot was the
driveway. So, it's on the south side? >> Yes, it always was. >> There's a driveway now on the south side. >> The driveway's on the north side. >> And then you're moving it to the south side. There's a store are you going to restore half of that? No. >> So, there's the um, the driveway on the
north side, it's half the the town driveway. And then >> Half the town half >> Half of our distance to the park. Because it backs up to the park. >> Ah. >> Yeah. >> But that's that's being turned into grass. >> Yeah, grass on the On on on the homeowner's property side,
yeah. >> And then that's still and that services it's an easement I guess a right of way for the property owner on the river behind you. >> Exactly, right. So the house pretty much doesn't look too much different than what we originally came in with. It's just it's a little smaller. Um
I think it's a little more to scale. >> Yeah, I mean it looks it looks great. >> Yeah, and I think it actually works completely. And not that the other one didn't. Yeah, I think one thing that turned out to be a good thing is that uh uh Red Cloud had a bump out, but that bay
window on the side on the uh on the north side left side elevation that originally went all the way up to the basically to the facial line on the roof. Um because we made some design changes, we actually dropped that down, which to me is a little more historically
uh you know, similar to what what that would have been. Um so I think that actually made the house look a lot better if I we just changed the scale of that bump out. >> Agreed. >> Yeah. In fact, I think there was some concerns about that at one of the meetings that we had with with this group. >> Well, I think also because
the angle of the you know, to get maximum use out of it if I recall the angle of the top portion of it maybe wasn't consistent with the roof line. >> Yeah, it was kind of jammed in there. So right now it's just sits in there a lot better. >> Yeah, I and then it's
>> And also if you look at the what we're calling the right side elevation, which is the south side elevation, um the house isn't as long as it used to look before because this back section here used to be two stories and now it's one story. It's one story.
So it it did tone down the house on that side as well. That's the drawing on the lower left corner of the page. >> Yep. Yeah, and I appreciate the elevations and blueprints because it provides with a lot of detail. It makes my life easy
cuz I don't have to go through all all the individual things That's long as you can comply with the plan, so Yeah. Um I think You know, I remember liking the house before. I think it looks terrific. It obviously is completely consistent historically with
a lot of the other structures, Italianate-ish um style. Um in the district, it's consistent with some of the houses that were originally been built there. Um and I think the scale does work probably better. Um I know that we would be discussed uh
extensively at the last um at the other meetings with the fact that, you know, it's a conspicuous piece of property right at the end of Normandy, obviously in the heart of the historic district. But what's there is a mid-century Cape Cod house, nice preserved, uh but clearly not
historically contributing to the district. Um this will obviously be a new structure, but um you know, the design and the proportion will be consistent with, you know, what could have been originally and basically an enhancement, I think, of the overall uh historic look of that portion of
Normandy. >> Thank you. >> I'm not sure what we're going for. >> [laughter and clears throat] >> I think that's any help. >> I went down and stood in the park and imagined it being there. >> Yeah. >> It's good. >> Well, I was I was leaning in before cuz I was like cuz I know you guys are doing
the house on Fairhaven Road and then I heard of Normandy. I'm like, all right, what are we doing to the park? >> Industrial. >> Um any thoughts or comments from the audience? Or from Zoom? Okay. Um I'll make a motion that we approve the um
building proposal for the Arrow residence um based on representations made and also that what is contained upon the plans and specifications, which are um dated 5 18 2006 by have Pinzuras
Architects and we have uh H1 and H2 in addition to the application being presented. Anybody want to second that? >> Second. >> It's voted. >> Mr. Palone. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Palone. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Misuraca. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Misuraca. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Misuraca. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Smith. >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Appreciate it. >> Over there. >> Do we have a motion? >> I'll make
>> Second. >> I think what says on this. >> Peter, and I just went back and looked at our voice mail messages. And it looks like the original conversation we had was Mr. Maniscalco.
But now I'm seeing you know, the first guy had a typo. And I have to say it's 26. So she was not on the that day. Mr. Palone Does that make sense? Yes, it's the Friday. >> So actually we
>> I apologize. >> Get us to that. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, no. I guess yeah. >> Uh what I can say is that >> I apologize. >> Yeah, so that um the house is the area where that she's looking to do that
windows modification is visible from the last week. It is visible. >> It is last week. >> Yes, so I know that it was somehow serious the weather was just Captain's way or that right-of-way, but that I can um you can tell her that uh that issue has been resolved.
Uh okay. >> I don't even have a phone number for her cuz she never sends any um application of any kind. So they're they're just an informal conversation. >> That's right. Yeah, right. We're not stopping.
Do I send this again? Tell them Jerry Well, she'll share it with all. >> I'm sending her an email right now. >> Get over it. No, in the event she doesn't make it tonight. >> Yeah, I'm assuming that she's working. >> So Christian, anything else? I mean,
we'll get through the direct committee reports to them. Anything else like interfacing with the or I mean, they're they're waiting us to come up with them I mean, because obviously we'll talk about it, but the memorandum will be that we approve everything that's been contained. We'll figure out what we're
going to do with regard to those storm windows once we see the kind of the elevation on that. But I'm assuming it's going to be you know, not that intrusive. It's a necessary evil, if you will, to preserve those windows. Um but what's timing in terms of them moving it up to the
>> So this is the last step cuz if facilities approved it about 2 or 3 weeks ago, so now we're here and then it'll be brought to the bureau. So it's up to the mayor to put it on the agenda to have us discuss. So um
I haven't from what I mean when I spoke to Chris York, the mayor seems fine with the color that you've approved. So hopefully he'll get this on board because we are pushing it for the 250th. So hopefully that would be a motivating factor to move this along.
>> And is it fair to say that I look at everything else that's in there everything else is for lack of a better word, not controversial. There's nothing in there >> No, that's right. >> It's all all maintenance stuff. >> Right. And then >> It's a necessary improvements. The only thing I think was the pretty acoustic
tiles. >> That sounded a little different. >> But you know something that is on the interior we have exclusive over but it is such a necessity so necessary because of the bad acoustics there. >> That's brutal. >> Yeah. >> I have to give her a definitive answer
but to your point if you determine that it definitely is physical from the house then a formal application would be necessary for the sole meeting anyway. >> I'd be happy to hear her on an informal I think she was kind of eager to do that but just there was a question as to whether or not when I talked to her on the phone and she was asking whether or
not >> Right. >> Um and there was jurisdiction and now I can formally say that she does have to come before us. >> Is that acoustic tile do you think that will interfere in any way with the presentations and things on the walls?
Is that going to if the walls aren't available for art work or things like that? Yes. >> Yeah, the wooden tiles are on the ceiling. >> I don't think they're on the ceiling. >> They're on the ceiling. >> Yeah, they're on the ceiling. >> It's vertical it's vertical but it's it's >> It's going to be um I've seen that it's vertical. >> Yeah,
like if you see a sound studio or a recording studio they have >> What's going on the walls in like an art room? >> Um So for events like that where they would they they're even hanging stuff on the walls. >> Oh okay. >> Along the walls but the acoustic is on
the ceiling. >> Who is this the master? I thought it was her. No I >> I'm sorry. >> I'm sorry. >> It's not ceiling ceiling tiles. They I assume they don't look like that and they're spaced. >> Yeah, they're spaced. Yeah. I'm under the impression they're Yeah,
they're just like slotted. Not too thick. Um I don't know how far they actually drop down but I haven't seen a picture of it either. >> And they're supposed to work? >> I guess so. We don't >> see. >> [laughter] >> It might make the sound perfect if they can send it out to say audio studio.
>> I have to say that the placers um >> Pay for the maintenance of the landscape. >> memorial service Oh, yeah. At the live hall. It was fabulous. Never know we should have the sound. They had Someone loaned a little microphone um and
I half of the presenter, half of the people spoke about often not to use the microphone. Half of us often use it and the sound was fine. >> Were they talking in How were they How were they presenting or what? >> From the front.
>> Like from the pulpit? >> And um Yeah. >> Well, that's what it was made for. I think it's more when there's multiple people talking at the same time. That's where the issue arises >> We always have a meeting there and then we would use like a list of
that's never good. It's always very echoey. >> Yes. >> So, maybe I can have her >> It's just beautiful when somebody sings in front or presents, but Right. But so side to side That's probably the issue with the speaker.
The speakers So, she doesn't have anything prepared to bring. She doesn't have anything to show, to discuss. So, she wants to just come in July. >> Absolutely. >> And I have her submit like I mean, we don't have to do with this right now, but like I'll speak to her after. Maybe
submit just like the application package with you. Whatever >> a formal thing about >> And then maybe go from there and still be able to hear her and >> The interaction you had with her was submitting photos, maybe there what she's proposing and then the specifications of what she's proposing.
>> And see it. Okay. Okay. >> And you can also indicate for her to give me a call too. I don't want to have it all at the same time. All right, so um um once you do that, you know, let's figure out how we're going to get those visuals on the storm windows.
>> So, I need to get those um you, I guess. Do you have those? Because whatever was given to me to the commission last I don't even know what I sent to the commission is what I sent to them. >> Okay, so you >> So, is there something that I didn't get?
>> You and I can talk offline about that, and I'll look at um these documents I got online. >> Yeah, I honestly can't >> see if there's something else. >> We'll work on that offline and get it to the commission so we can get it approved and move this along as soon as possible. >> Okay. All right, we'll see if there's
something missing. >> And I guess once we get it, um should we just distribute it to everybody and then >> Definitely. Give us a second and I'll be right back. Yeah, as soon as I got those last documents, I sent them. So, if there was something that we I didn't get, we'll find it. >> Um but I welcome any comments, but I
think that, you know, everything has been presented both regarding to the uh maintenance items and punch list items as well as the landscape architecture, I say we approve it. >> Is is the funding from the
um the historic association covered up to the garden party this year, or is the fundraiser is the goal of the fundraiser at certain person's house um is the goal of that this year's fundraiser to support the landscape, or
is this it'll be for new things? >> And for new things. Not yeah, not necessarily. >> So, we're we're covered for anything related to landscape. We got that covered. >> Do uh is there any idea how much the landscaping is going to cost? >> We don't have an estimate just yet.
Um Stephen's still working on it. That's exciting. >> Have you guys even selected a landscaper and that sort of thing? Is that something that has to be done later, or do they have to do >> Um as far as bring it back to the bureau. >> Yeah. >> I don't think we have I don't think we
have to. I we've gone over this briefly a little bit but I don't think we have to is we're more I mean technically hiring them so we don't have to go through the whole RFP process and selection process through the bureau. So
this this is a association 100% association effort. >> Association again? >> 100%. >> They bureau get a lot of their landscaping and yeah planting and stuff like that. >> No, that's the association. Yeah, so that's why you have to talk to Jeremy. Um this project master plan.
>> Well, the bureau would need to be in it. >> That is yes. Yes, it's under it's under the facilities. The park. >> There's not might be a dumb question. They don't want to be putting in sprinklers, right? So they >> It's something that Stephen has discussed again like we don't you know
we don't have a an estimate on drainage there. >> Yeah. >> I mean I don't even know how much something like a sprinkler system for that project would cost but it works or getting quotes for every all of it. We'll just say we're doing that and I think I'm going to vote the level of use this park for now and
we're all here because of what happened back in 1970s which was um building moved it was refurbished but there was no plan I think for me this time. >> Right and that's how we ended up with that. >> I think lesson learned is >> Mhm. >> So
>> he yeah Stephen again he's been so great to work with and he's also been providing us with a maintenance plan. Um so >> Speaking of inspecting our fence last year but I'm not fencing either. I was probably looking at sprinklers then. >> I think yeah I think it is I don't know
how realistic that is specifically which was Yeah, so it's >> the cost >> It's yeah it comes down to the to the cost. >> I'll buy it for 20 bucks. >> Yeah. Bring 20 of your best. >> There you go. >> you'll probably run those irrigation pipes just for the piece of the first 2
years till they find out they're not paying so then first thing you know, they won't pay they won't pay them and walk away. Go push it. >> Now they do with the other what the water truck they have. Yeah, so >> I would imagine that even the association >> [clears throat] >> almond seeders >> Yeah.
>> a lot of them a lot of them green team volunteer >> Not a green team they were doing things. >> I don't [laughter] think they're going to have a dry day. How do the neighbors borrowing their hoses like on third street they have them >> I'll be there.
>> I have them in my yard and my husband I don't know. >> All right, so I'll make a motion that we adopt and that we approve both the specifications that were presented by the Nichols team partnership and let's discuss by this program.
>> Um, are we one question? >> I would like to take that before you do. Yes. >> Hi, good evening. Just have a quick question. Um, what determines the need for a formal or informal application? It's
still not clear to us. >> Okay, so basically when you come in on a formal application, that triggers us to render a memorandum of action. So we take action on the application. Um, a lot of times you have people that don't
know exactly what they want to do or they want to come and and sort of get an idea of what the commission would like to see happen or sort of take the temperature of what different types of design elements or material element what we would
approve, what we would disapprove and that sort of thing. So what we have available to applicants is to come in on an informal basis and essentially give us well as much detail as you can and then we sort of interact with the
applicant, give them as much information as we can provide to set them up to to make the formal application which would include the necessary detail. We can render formal decision or render prepare memorandum of action. Cuz sometimes if
there's not sufficient detail and the applicant doesn't know for example the type of material, the type of wood, the type of window, we can't just um render an advisory opinion. It has to be based on what's presented and so I'm
always a big advocate of it because it sets the person up that's making the application especially on a more involved one, not you know, a simple one. It sets them up so when they come with the formal application, they know exactly what to present and they have a sufficient amount of detail that we can
at least render a decision. I hope that answers your question. >> It does. Um I think the other question we had was what what kind of activities actually require an application?
>> Well, any type of a modification and that could be as simple as you know, a changing out of a window or restoration of a house that is subject to our jurisdiction which would be within the historic district that's visible from the street. So, something
that's in the back of the house, something that's you know, not visible, interior doesn't have we have no jurisdiction over that. It's something that's visible from the street. And that's not only the street facing the facade, obviously on a corner property would be any intersecting
street but sometimes you can see behind yards if it's visible from the street and there's a modification and it's a historic house or a house that's in the district, uh generally we have jurisdiction. >> Okay, that's perfect. Thank you. >> Um might might I just get your name for
the record? >> Sure. Uh Matt uh Dismuke, d i s m u k e. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, thanks, guys. >> Okay, thank you very much. Okay, so I thought I had to do that.
I second also I'll bring it in. >> Yeah, now we'll renew that um adoption and approval of the um Goldstein specifications as well as the landscape architect design by Stephen Crow. >> Second.
Um Mr. Kappa? >> Yes. >> Mr. Kappa? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Priscilla? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Casey? >> Yes. Mrs. Paula? >> Yes. >> And Mr. Z? >> Yes. >> And I'll probably I'll just do one memorandum action on the uh for both of them, but I'll bring it up.
Um but obviously I'm going to hold off doing anything until we get those. Stormwater runoff. Abutters. >> [laughter] >> I'll make a motion to uh >> I'll make a motion to adopt. >> I don't think you have a YouTube video for that up.
>> You're probably going to need to bring it up. >> Maya? This works. >> Zero. >> Sorry. >> Okay. >> You should have brought this up. >> Um First up is the Chris Finneran the last time
I was here we went over the Chris Finneran assemblies for tourists. So well received, everyone I mean was thrilled. Kids were engaged. Even teachers in the back of the room like grown-up here and
they were learning as we were learning. It was just so fantastic. And then we had him bring the fifth graders down to the dock to teach them about the Albertina and everything and it was about 25-minute walk and it was so exciting when they got there and
and it was a beautiful day and he was just, you know, he is he's just fantastic and he just he lit up and and he's excited to just think about all these things and, you know, point certain things out and explain it to the kids and so we hope to do that again next year as
well. Um but he loved it. He was super enthusiastic. We were so grateful he even committed to do it. It was it was a lot and but it was it was really really fantastic. It was exciting to I was so excited to see the kids just
learn, you know, just get outside and learn something too. It wasn't assembly in the gym. It was it was so exciting to get them outdoors. >> These are the opposite side of the Nashua next year. >> Yeah, I know. I know. >> He told me something I'd never forget.
>> Yeah. >> He's holding a picture of a striper and I talked to him and he said it's great story about and somebody who's very much into fishing and eating stripers and they basically caught a bunch of them, put them in barrels and they put them on trains to go across the country and cuz
they wanted to like stock water sources. Did you know this? >> Yeah. >> on the West Coast and they only like a quarter would survive. >> Yeah. >> But they made it out to the Pacific and now they're like just like they're on the East Coast as a result of Nashua
River. They're all descendants of Nashua River. >> population >> Yeah. >> They have to see how they >> Yeah. Yeah. Did you know that? Did you know that? >> So I when I was living out there that was my favorite thing to do was to fish for striper in the Merrimack so coming up here learning that they came from Nashua River. >> I got it.
>> So they came from Merrimack River and then >> Really? There's not like >> a place like that now. They have taken over the city. >> Yeah, I know that well. >> They're delicious. >> They're going to an extent they were like in a danger They're in danger from like the '90s, right?
I don't remember exactly, but I want to say it was probably in the early 1990s. >> Any structure you catch or eat out there came from the Nansen. >> Wow. >> Yeah, he's he's he's just right. He just knows so much. Um but he's
he has agreed as uh he's agreed to do it next year, too, and forever. >> We talked about maybe getting him to do another program in the fall, too, so we'll see. He's going to announce new material. >> He um Well, I'll get to that, but uh >> So he does sessions for adults as well.
>> I would love that. >> We did a um through the 250 committee through the historical association, we did a trivia night on June 11th at the Diplomat's Club, and Chris was there, and of course he you know, he won Yeah.
He just knows so much. It was it was so fascinating. Ted uh won again, and Wally wrapped up led led the whole charge, and uh it was well attended, and we it was just fun. It was so so fun, and they brought props, and it was
great. So Chris also had a little bit to do, you know, with that and making it exciting for everyone. Um I have like two more things. Tomorrow night at the Board of Ed meeting, we will the historical association is presenting the winners for the 250 essay
and poster contest with certificates. Uh anyone who participated will get a certificate, and um me along with Sharon Romano and Heather Prince, we all were judges and we have a a few really good submissions that will
then be um on display at the July 4th parade and the at the what is the essay contest the fifth grade winners of the essay contest will read during the uh the you know, the procession down at 25. Do you guys want to sit here or would
you rather sit there? Um and as you know, new century house colon hyphenation as a brand. That's that's all I have to say. >> Okay, thanks. All second is for the historical association business.
Okay. Um Yeah, I don't think we have you taken off the stands here the uh What's it called? >> Castner. >> Castner. Um I make a motion that we approve the
May 20th 2026 meeting minutes. >> Second. Um Mr. Castner. >> Yes. >> Uh Mr. Castner. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Passaro. >> Yes. >> Mr. Fusco. >> Yes. >> Mr. Romano. >> Yes. >> And Mrs. Romano.
>> Don't think those are comments. >> I'll abstain. >> And unless there's any comments or thoughts from the audience, Susan or anyone in Zoom. Make a motion to close. I'd like to make a motion to close. >> Mr. Castner and Mrs. Passaro.