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statement in the minutes of the speaker. Uh so we'll start with a roll call. I'll share and then we'll do pledge. >> Mrs. Bush >> here. >> Mr. Olsen >> here. >> Mr. >> here. >> Mr. Pala >> here. >> Mr. Ra >> here.
>> Mr. Nika. >> Mr. Anderson >> here. >> Mr. Sant >> here. Mr. Grandetti >> here. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Hey Mike. Um so we'll open the meeting. think we have uh we have two things uh in administratively. So we'll take care of
that. Um and then we'll continue just I can give an update on where we are with the master plan re-examination and some open items that we need to take care of as soon as possible so like and CCA can get started. Um,
and then there's a couple of things coming before the board or I think there's one one thing on storm water that was presented to the governing body or will be presented to the governing body. >> So, we workshop it >> and they'll workshop it and then it's
going to come to us. So, we'll just talk just real quickly about that process, but we'll have a whole meeting to to uh examine that um draft ordinance before it's approved. Um, but I'll just give, you know, I'll give everybody an update
on what's to come. Um, so why don't we start with uh the approval of the of the minutes from September 16th, 2025. And uh I I reviewed and have no comments. I I don't know. Does anyone have any comments, concerns?
I'll make a motion to approve. Second. >> Uh, Mr. >> Mr. Olsen. >> Yes. >> Mr. Newell. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. V. >> Yes. >> Mr. Na. >> Yes. >> Mr. Anderson.
How about that? >> This is Anthony who's on Zoom. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> If you were on Zoom, you you can approve the minutes. >> We talked about >> you can't vote, but you could you can
approve the minutes because you attended. But I I mean, we should >> I don't think there's any secretation. >> Okay. I mean, we have people, so we don't need it, so it doesn't matter. But I'm just curious. because you kind I mean I get the whole concept of not voting but right to approve the minutes
you you observe gonna happen so >> you can leave >> they were great we'll go with that >> um so next uh next uh item for businesses the uh is the the meeting dates and so this is something that has
to be I I think put before the um for the calendar right Brian the >> governing body has to put the calendar together for next year and so we have to have our stuff done in the next week or two. I think >> it's not obviously it doesn't get um
>> before the next meeting though, right? Before our November 18. >> Yeah, I think the 18th would be uh the 19th would be the latest that I could submit. So, >> yeah. So, we got to approve it tonight. We We got to approve it tonight. So, that >> You can. >> Yeah, we will. Yeah, I think. Um so, why
don't we go through um just the calendar? We're sticking with the third the third Tuesday with some um uh I guess with some aberation >> with a with a few aberrations because of
just holidays and and other things. So the first uh the first meeting is is January the 20th. I mean that's the the typical date we do the reorganization. Um, and so we should uh make sure that we, you know, we're going to need full
attendance for that for that meeting or as close to full attendance as we can get. So, um, any objections to the 20th? I don't I don't think that should Is it the day after Martin? >> Yeah. >> The calendar. Yeah.
>> Everybody's generally back though because they are in. So yeah, >> I know it's the the the long weekends and then coming back on Tuesday sometimes people >> I know travel stay that week or I don't know >> it is I mean you if you're looking for
full attendance you might want to >> consider a different day >> the day like the Tuesday before I don't know >> so that date was established at the what like the onset of that so we would have to you know put out a legal notice to
change that date. >> So this you're right. That's right. This is already >> if you want to I mean that can be done but that note was published or that tape was published >> last January 27.
>> Yeah. Where approved the 27th. Yeah. I gotcha. And then February 17th again I think we run into what is that? President's Day, right? >> The day after. >> The day after. Yeah. Um >> I mean >> February break that's like is that
February break after high school? >> I think that's a week >> that's a week. >> Yeah that's not the week of high school. >> Any objections? Some schools are off that
>> not all of them. And then >> the you know the Thursday of that week >> have an option >> the Thursday the 19th. >> Yeah. >> Well we have enough people on the board keep to the Thursday unless there's some
major half the board me right >> I mean we should try and stick to the third Tuesday rule like that's just when everybody >> Yeah. Um >> that's like a major holiday or something. >> Yeah. Which brings us to St. Patrick's Day on March 17th.
So I mean um >> unless it's a major hallway. >> Yeah, but I I kind of feel like there's a Yeah, >> that have social engagements that night, I think. Right. >> Yeah, it's going to be hard to I think have a meeting on the separate
>> they could be drunk for lunch. >> So maybe for that one. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> 19th. >> Yeah. Just Thursday. >> Yeah. >> Um, April 21st
I think is probably okay. >> Yeah, cuz this spring the the school spring break it's earlier. So that conflict for this board. Uh, same with May 19th I think is okay. Yeah, June 16th I don't have any problem
with either unless I mean that seems like a fairly benign Tuesday. >> And I checked the graduation dates I think variated are like the 18th and the 19th. >> Yep. >> Right. July 21st,
August 18th. Again, I don't see it. >> Well, this is August 17th. >> Oh, I uh Patrick was kind enough to point out that I have the wrong date. So, it is the 18th. >> So, 18th, sorry. >> August 18th, Tuesday. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what
I'm says 17th. It should be 18. >> So, we're 18. might be. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, you know what? I printed mine. >> Sorry. Sorry. >> I thought it was between Patrick and I.
>> All right. September 15th. All right. October 20th. I don't think it's a problem. Uh, November 17th is I think looks okay.
Wait a second. Uh, yep, that's all right. Um, and then December 15th. I mean, I think that's pretty easy. I mean, we're not running into anything in November and and move one day. 15th is great as
the third Tuesday >> without messing up, you know, everybody going away for Christmas. >> And so, um, and then the 19th, I think, is as good as any. >> So, only March was different. Do you do we want to change the reorganization
meeting to the Thursday since we're running into that same problem >> of uh president >> and move it to the 21st >> it's better to be safe than I mean >> reorganization meeting is
>> yeah so move it to the 21st okay >> yeah 427 12. We're keeping the 20th of this year, right? 26 for 2027. We'll change it to the 21st, Thursday.
>> Just in case. >> Okay. Um, so I will motion to approve the schedule. A second. >> Oh, wait. Any objections before we Sorry. I didn't I think we're all good,
right? Discussion. Anybody >> public? All right. I hope that some schools will be on spring break on March 17th and 19th. >> So I don't think we should change it just for some schools, but I'm just saying that there >> that
>> if people are away, we certainly issues, >> but that's not all. Motion to approve and >> I'll second. >> Okay. Uh, Mrs. Bush. Yes. Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Newell. >> Yes. >> Mr.
>> Yes. >> Mr. B. >> Yes. >> Mr. N. >> Yes. >> Mr. Anderson. >> Yes. >> Antin. >> Yes. And Mr. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, um I'll just give a quick update on uh a few things before we get
to the master plan. So the first is the the co-ar subdivision is I I guess the plans got approved. I just signed them and so he's I think moved forward on the um the resolutions that were in the um
that were in our uh I'm sorry the elements of the resolution that were that that made up our approval. So I think a good or what started to become a a good outcome there. Um then the second
thing is um the the sea uh Sandy Hood Seafood um they're they've completed all of the elements in the resolution as well. So we um Rich I
guess signed off on a letter to them saying that all that is done. So, they have I think a zoning permit that gets that has to be turned in is what he was saying or what Rich was saying in the letter. And then there's a um you know, whatever uh building permits they'd have
to obtain in order to, you know, do all their um modifications inside the facility. So, that's moving along and is uh I guess yeah, moving along and and you've hit resolution compliance. Yeah,
>> we've had all of our our elements met. So that's good. Um and then the last thing is so so Sheila I just want to make sure next meeting do we are we hearing an application? >> Um we possibly could be hearing an
application. So uh Rich uh gave his completeness review on the Tavala Pronto application. >> Okay. >> Which highlighted a couple of outstanding items. one of which is additional escrow that needs to be submitted before we can do anything. So
once those items are addressed we then um I can schedule the technical design of the committee meeting the with you Mr. Olsen Rich um and the applicant and their attorney. So that would be, you
know, sometime before they're scheduled for the meeting or they could probably be scheduled for the next meeting as long as that TDRC happens prior. >> That's usually what they do. TDRC. >> So, but it's really the the ball is really in their court at the moment and
when they get that back to us, they'll determine if we can schedule them. But >> Okay. So, it's not it's it's not >> it's not in our definite point. Okay. And there's no other applications out there. Okay. And then um okay, so potentially an application that's Do we
know what they're doing? >> Yeah. What's the plan? >> So uh the original approved site plans had um a lot of the seating that is actively being used within the space as display
space. Um so they're really not uh doing business in accordance with with site plan. So they would need to have a revision of this or would an amendment. >> They're making an amendment type primarily due to seating. I don't want you to get too far involved in that
because >> yeah seating outside and inside >> I think you can say there's not going to be any increase in the footprint and then they're going to break their case as to their operation. >> Got it. >> And totally overse. >> Sounds good. Agree with that.
>> Y perfect. And then um there is a a workshop being held at the governing body level for as revision to the storm water uh ordinance. And so that's going to happen at the next governing that's going to happen at the next council meeting, right? >> Yes. So we'll introduce it and what it
is, it's closing loopholes in storm water. Drew Labara um did a test run of what you guys saw in 2023 on his property so you could see sort of how it fit. There's a few loopholes that they want to close. Um
um so we will um introduce it and then we'll come back here for your comments before we approve. >> Yeah. And Drew has agreed to come to the meeting uh or has offered to come to the meeting. I haven't asked him formally to come to the meeting yet, but he will he'll come to the meeting uh and and
help guide us through that discussion. So um that'll be it will not be at the next meeting, will it? Or will it because the governing body Oh, no. It could it would be it would be so it will be at our November uh it'll be our November 18th meeting. >> Yes.
>> Okay. >> This is not driven by states customizing it for us. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. And so um so that's that's I guess what's in the pipeline. Um and and so we
can now move to the to the master plan. So what CCA? So so we I took everybody's survey um suggestions, incorporated it into a document and sent it to Chris
York. And so once Chris reviews and answers some questions that I had about distribution scoring, all that that is excluded from the engagement letter. um the survey will come back here and we
will find it's our survey right but I I sort of want obviously there to be some alignment with um with the town uh and so we can uh once once we get those comments we can sort of finalize it and
approve it and then it can be uh distributed we can talk about publicity and and the like at that uh at that time um the other thing CCH has asked for um as soon as possible is for us to
complete the um uh the subcommittee uh teams. And so I've gotten Patrick's, I've gotten yours, and I've gotten yours. Um so we still need um the conservation I'm sorry. Yeah, conservation, recreation, and open
space. >> Oh, I'm sorry. No, no, that's yours. I'm sorry. Um Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I'm sorry, guys. >> I need land use. Yeah. From from you. If you have names, I can just get those as soon as you can.
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I can give it to you after. I just need to confirm it once. >> Yeah. Yeah. just email with a phone number and and then that's going to go um but we're going to we're going to just review those with um >> we promise to give notice as to yeah so
yeah for some reason your building do your committee know why they're there and then go ahead >> you just want >> cuz I owe you for circulation you want name phone number >> name address is fine too if you have it go through any sort of approval process
or is it pretty much >> we so so we We own the process >> as a courtesy and and a sort of alignment and >> and FYI, >> I've agreed to to just go over the list with the mayor and Chris. Yeah, I think that's I I
>> more for transparency than >> I I think that Yeah. And if they object to somebody that we absolutely want, it's our call, right? So, but I I thought that it's it's the right thing to do. And I Yeah. Um, and so that's it on the master plan
for right now because once we have the subcommittee members, Chris will then I'm sorry, um, CCH will then have a sort of plan for each subcommittee and and what has to be done
for each subcommittee. >> Do we know when the subcommittee meetings will start? So, you know, if we're in contact with our folks, should we say, "Hey, hang tight. We're just going for the final." There's likely to be there's like there's likely to be one if not two meetings before the end of the year.
>> Okay. >> That CCH will lead with >> Yes. >> We'll lead with the with myself and each subcommittee leader. Yeah. >> Um any questions, concerns, other >> other matters? Is there anything we can
be doing outside of the the waiting process for CCH6? >> I mean, there's just review like CCHA stress. Just make sure reviewing all of your documents um or all the prior documents for the elements that you're working on and just make sure you know
what's in those. Yeah. >> And as far as the survey goes, are we reviewing at the next meeting or is that >> We will review it. We're going to review it at the next meeting. So, so what c the idea is to have it approved and ready for distribution after the next
meeting. So, after the November 18th meeting >> um old rate exam plan there was assumptions they had as population and stuff like that before the survey. Do we have updated population though or >> are they putting together update?
>> There might there might be something. So, we're going to also all get access to a I guess like a data room. So, I have I got in there um provisionally. They they didn't want to distribute it broadly yet. >> It's been a long time. >> No,
the um so there's a it has I think um I thought I saw that they had updated that information. So they have done a lot of that work already as Mike said at the last meeting or the last meeting was he is at that they've already started putting all of that information
together. >> It was kind of I was reading through this whole thing today before and like the population changes have been crazy and I know you were talking about it last time about structure and infrastructure and handling population. I mean we have less people in 2015 than
we did in 1970. It like went the opposite direction prepared. I don't know what's happened in the last 10 years. That's kind of why I was asking about that. But >> and you'll see you see another shift in your age. >> Which which may inform you if you got a
lot of people with a lot of young kids, you're going to want to reook at your facilities. If you're happy population makes sense. Anything else? Concerns, comments.
>> Open to the public. >> Nothing. >> Anybody online? >> Historyific. Yes. Yeah, exactly. >> What can we do to filibuster for home yet?
Kids aren't in bed yet. >> All right, I'll move to close. Sorry. >> Very good. >> Andy, my text. No purchase pack.