Hey everyone, we'll get started. This is a regular meeting board notice of this meeting has been given pursuant to the provisions of the open public meetings act at the time of the board reorganization in January of this year. The board adopted it
regular schedule for the year. Notice the schedule was sent to and published in the Asbury Park on January 31st. 2025 and the two of her times on January 23rd, 2025. That notice was also posted on the board protocol and has remained
continuously posted a required by statute. Copy of the notice is and has been available to the public is on file in the office of clerk. Copy of the notice has also been sent to members of the public request of such information in accordance with the statute. After
notice having been given, the board secretary is directed to leave the state in the next. So why don't we roll Mrs. Bush here, Mr. Olsen? Mr. Newell,
Mr. Po here, Mr. R here, Mr. Nika, Mr. Anderson here, Mrs. Antin here. Mr. Bailey here. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So, we have a few items uh on the agenda
tonight. Um, and so what I'd like to do is just get the administrative item out of the way. I think the the meeting minutes from last month uh and then we can start with the 65 Parker Avenue um extension. So, uh the the minutes um
were were sent out prior to the meeting. If you have a chance, Mrs. Bush. Yes. [Music] Mr. Ba. Yes. Yes.
Mr. Anderson. Yes. Mr. Bum. Yes. So, um, so the first, uh, first order of business we'll discuss tonight, um, is is the 65 Parker Avenue, uh, six-month
extension. Um, we, uh, we adopted a resolution on in our April 16th, 2024 meeting uh, for this for this subdivision. uh there were uh elements of that resolution that were not um completed on
time and the applicant was in back requesting an extension and so um we're you know I hear the applicants are here today so they'd like to make statements I'm certainly happy to
hear and take things you want anything let me just let me just do a couple things we have jurisdiction over this matter yes we have jurisdiction Um, just by way of background, this was an application. I'll bring everybody up. I'll swear everybody in just by way of
this was an application as Sarah said um back in April of 2024. I want you to note that we gave the applicant a year's time to complete
the items set forth in the resolution except you do not have the ability at least at that time to grant any extensions or any changes. We'll see if you if you had opportunity to review resolution recently. I know you approved
it. You have 190 days within which to perfect the subdivision. You have to review it. You have to do it by way of recreation. We don't have the ability to change that time. We do have the ability to change the
time now that the applicant has made a request and it's my understand the applicant makes your presentation on internet request for a sixmonth extension to comply with at least that reporting aspects of it and get as many of the other things that they need to do to to comply with the resolution.
conditions from both planner and the engineer. So I think we're just here, but I'll let the applicants speak for themselves. Just here this evening for six months extension. It will be effective as of this date because six months extension from the April date would take you to October of 2024 which
would do the applicant much good. So we're going to do a fancy lab notebook for them for this evening provided the applicant um you know explains to you why they need the additional time. I will tell you by way of counseling, not just the applicant involved, but
generally my experience with these things, sometimes it takes more time. Simple as that. And the case law that I have reviewed for this, unless there is a significant change either in our master plans andor something that has
changed under the circumstances, maybe it's no longer the same zone, which is not applicable, something that would work to the detriment of either our planning and zoning or agency. Generally the extensions are granted. I'm not aware of any circumstance and Rich will
speak to this later on that would change any of the approvals. If if there isn't any new circumstance by way of say a zoning change something else has happened in this particular area that would have you reconsider the approvals. Generally they are granted and that's
somewhat of the council we usually give. We don't really have equity powers, but these are as close to equity powers as we get to exercise. With that, if I can just have anybody want to testify, just if you testify, if you think you might call out, doesn't hurt to respond
and not speak. So you [Music] test the truth. Okay. Just before you start testifying, we got different recording system. Realize you have to object to get recorded. It's important
every state your name. Okay. Uh do you have any exhibits other than we're going to probably mark the resolution because that was not marked but unless there's other exhibits that you have marked. We're just going to mark the
resolution for this hearing as one. No others. Okay. Any of our revised documents handful of months ago board had a board with inside engineering applicants engineer. Um we're here
seeking an extension of minor subdivision stated at request six months ago. I don't believe we'll need the full six months at all. Let me let me just interrupt you for a second. Sure. In case we get you a period. Have you qualified before?
I have a professional engineering plan that has. Okay. That's what you're testifying for just as an engineer in this case. Thanks. Um so just to give some background as to where we are in this compliance phase. Uh I'll end with the
borrow. We do have the M county plan exception. We do have the the local uh sewer authority approval for the application. The applicant is working with Rich and the tree expert in town to finalize the tree removal mitigation
department as part of the approval. Um that's very close. We just don't have a formal approval yet. uh the deeds and easement documents associated with the two utility easements that were part of the application have been reviewed by Rich. They just have not been filed yet.
And then there are some very minor flat comments from Rich's office that we have to address. So in our opinion we feel like we're very close um out of an abundance of caution requesting 6 months but we feel that um this will be
buttoned up and the subdivision de will be filed within a reasonable amount of time. Um the applicant and his family will be if you recall this application there's an existing home on the property that's to remain in effect the sub creating a vacant we'll be creating a
vacant lot next to it. the applicant is going to are looking to construct a new home for themselves once everything is followed up with the minoration application. So that's all I have. Happy to answer any questions and we'd appreciate the board's consideration of this request. Anybody have any questions,
concerns? I mean, it's a, you know, I think Doug spoke mostly about um the ground having these decisions are made. I I don't perceive there being any kind of hardship any kind of uh any kind of
interference like like Doug says with any kind of zoning or anything of that nature. And so unless Richard didn't tell anything I assume that's that's the case unless you have anything you want to add to this. The only thing I would add was the um as part of the approval
they have to post the performance guarantee with the clerk's office. We did provide the estimate for those improvements and you can contact our burough clerk and what happens is that the guarantee gets posted at the clerk's office but then it needs to be accepted
by the governing body. So it's got to sync up with their meeting schedule. So you want to look ahead to see like we have a meeting this coming Tuesday. So the timing is such you're not going to make that meeting. So you want to look at the next meeting in June to get that
that won't preclude them from doing obviously they can't do the agreements or complete the improvements but there's nothing that stops them from going forward and take care of all the other yeah they could finish up the other items what it what it prevents them from doing is actually us signing off and
then going to M county to Yeah. Okay. So are you you understand all of that? Are you are you clear on that and and and okay with that and you know ability to do that? Yes. Okay. So like like I said outside of of you know
there's no doesn't seem to be any interference any or anything like that. So you know there's really no reason in my view not to not to grant any seems there any kind of hardship to the neighborhood or neighbors or anything of that nature. And so we should just I
would think at this point um motion friendly following motion someone consider uh to grant extensions to the relief previously afforded to this set forth in PB1. Uh all terms and conditions of the
resolution shall remain in full force effect to be obliged by the applicant. Um the only difference is that we have an additional 6 months within which from this date to complete all of those matters. Ask for a motion for
that. Second Mr. Bush. Yes. Mr. Olson. Yes. Mr. Pa. Yes. Mr. R. Yes. Mr. Nick. Yes. Mr. Mr. Anderson. Yes.
Mrs. Anthony. Yes. And Mr. B. No. Motion carries. Okay. Thank you. Time. So uh so the next item on the agenda is advisory committee. Um there's a a plan
that was included in the materials and uh discussion. Uh so uh Rich talk about this or I know it. You want to open it up? Sure. I can open it. So we're not being
asked. So I thoroughly ask questions. Um, you know, there's a there's a lot in terms of planning. Uh, let's consider we should, you know, spend some time. I could give him an outline of
things. Go for it. I can speak on behalf of the burrow like as part of the process on where we are and what our next steps are and then we can um shed some light on the document that you have. So as you know the burrow
acquired the piece of property down at the end of Fair Haven Road known as 21 Fair Road. It's adjacent to the dock and in between the dock and the marine. We have authorized Narian Associates to
prepare bid documents with the demolition of the existing structure at the bid and any other associated work to demolish that structure. We had our license tree expert go down there, draft a septic
report. We're going to incorporate some of those findings in that demolition. There's some other areas along the shoreline that we need to take care of to make to make this safe this site essentially
safe. The the next step we're doing is we have intention on applying to Mammoth County Space for funding. We haven't developed a plan yet, but we know the grant is out there. The grant, I
believe, is due this summer. But as part of that process, we also want to have some open houses with the public just to get a feel of what we want to do down there. Kind of go through some planning afterwards, get kind of brainstorm, get some ideas
similar to what we've done with some of these other projects that we've done throughout the burrow. Those two open houses are actually scheduled. One is for next Wednesday. It's going to be here at 7 p.m. And then the second open house is going to be down on the
waterfront that following Saturday, which is the 31st at 8:30 that morning. This Thursday, there were dates kicked around, but then we decided because of the Memorial Day weekend, having
something this Thursday night would just be too much for to ask for people to come out. Um, and then there were some other conflicts. So, we pushed it to the um next Wednesday 7 pm here at Bsentennial Hall.
And then I had recommended why don't we do the second one down on the waterfront. That's a great spot to have it. Obviously, that's the property in question and everybody can kind of take a look around and that's going to be at 8:30. 8:30 in the morning. 8:30 in the
morning. Mr. the chair to the chair just just very briefly again because this is going to involve the expenditure of public monies call with regards to dining boards will we'll take a look at this as a capital review even though there's
grant money involved there also money involved with the budget from the bureau we'll still look at the when we when you have a plan you'll take a look at that you'll be taking a look as to whether or not that's that's consistent with the master plan where the other issue probably manage element
um those types of things and also keep in the back of your mind as we get to the re-examination report and get to these things. This will be something that we're going to be adding into the master plan and also probably in our resource inventory and those types of things. So you're going to get a chance
to see that plan once that concept plan has been greenlighted so to speak. It'll come before you to those things to identify any concerns you have with regard to consistency with the master plan. if it isn't consistent to identify those things where it isn't so that they
are constantly have the benefit of our sort of knowledge as the as the main planning entity. So you'll get to see the subject. So with the capital review though so if the capital
review doesn't the the site stabilization that that's more or less like we don't we wouldn't do that. We're talking about reviewing the plans and beside stabilization. I don't think it's just I mean you have to do that for s
like there's nothing really to review because we're not we're not prepping for any kind of specific purpose until we have the plan. So the there's two or three things kind of moving parallel. There's the the work we have to do in order to prepare the grant which is due
July 10th. I just got confirmation from that. There's a public hearing process. There's a whole document that we have to prepare administratively and then there is a small concept plan that we would have to include because Mammoth County needs to
kind of know what are we looking to do. The other piece of it is, yes, the capital review, but that'll be later on once the plan is developed and engineered. And then there's also the fair haven um it's the subcommittee and that's basically the document that you
have. It's an advisory committee. The document that's in your packets tonight is a draft of what's come out of those meetings. I guess they've had a couple two or three meetings and that document hasn't been circulated uh per se yet. It's in draft format. It
just kind of gives you kind of a recipe on where they're looking at and what they're they're looking to do. So, we're kind of moving this in sync. And then the stabilization, as you mentioned, obviously the property was acquired. We need to get that structure um
demolished, the site stabilized and safe because right now there's safety fence and signs that say do not, you know, trespass etc. sort of bulkhead there. So there's a combination. There's some concrete bulkheading, there's standard, you know, your um traditional wooden
bulkheading. A lot of it's in bad shape. So is that stabilization? Is that So you have to kind we haven't really dove into the engineering of it. Um but you have to look at the fact there's bulkheading at the dock, there's
bulking at bulkheading at the marina. So your basically your two options are you either do a um a natural um like stabilized shoreline type project or bulkhead it really that's still to be determined
though. It's to be determined. Um I haven't really weighed in on what my thoughts are but I you know I'm always open to to see what would work and um guess you know if there's volcan
side makes sense to you got to also understand you know the the river in itself the sand shifts and and depending on a storm or or winter whatever we have
and you never want to run the risk of moving sand over into other areas that don't need sand. So, you have to and then it also depends on what type of um activities are going to occur at that site, whether you want to have the
ability to crab or fish or even have a a kayak launch or something along those lines, whether it's passive in nature or what have you. Um yeah I was only asking because the language here natural stabilization it makes me think of a
natural we have um to be determined we have a living shoreline project that's been discussed on the other side on the one that we were working with um
no the end of the road yeah's the tree. It's about all the water. So, Councilman Olsson, I don't know if you want to show, let me just in plain like on page nine, that's um this is a
this is Councilman Lar organized. He wants um feedback from all the boards who commissioned. So, in plain English to ask is that as these plans develop, we have planning board eyes and expertise on the plan and can
sort of raise your hand if you see something that is missing or doesn't belong. earlier in the process. And page nine is the the three bullet points for the planning board. And there's some more general stuff on the open house. Um but again, the idea is just to have your
expertise and knowledge earlier in the process rather than at the end. So just as an example for the island and green team, we we kind of did a modifying
process. Everyone individual comments collected it in a group. We talked about our meetings and went on to plan to look at its individuals have an opportunity to
comment on everything. could access the water structure on there for you know housing activities recreation activities like that. So I certainly know I put some my two cents in is talking about circulation
and transportation here which is FYI to the chair are are there if I may are there minutes that are available for people to look at online as to as to meetings as to this
particular project? I mean, we just had it this month. The meeting minutes are drafted. I wouldn't say we spent a whole lot of time talking about our ideas. It was more anything that we felt missing
about an offline activity. And then the material we created is certainly available if you look at what we put together and what together as well. That's that's available to to I'm just asking to coordinate with with the
planning board secretary might have might have council comments to get eyes on it early on. Maybe there are things that we can review as it's going. People don't have an opportunity with the meeting at least they can keep themselves a breast of how it's progressing. So we get that out to our
at least as a as a note to our members so we can try to do our due weight system for two years. So it's been we for about two years initial proposal. Yeah. One broken
up. Yeah. And it seems like you know there's been public commentary in the past. Is it how is it possible to get notes on where it's been presented so far? You know, just two different three times. So, October of 23
it was on a city council bur council meeting was quite that that debate was centered around whether the bureau should buy the property in the first place. Okay. A lot of the neighborhood residents uh came to the meeting. I would characterize their main concern as
they don't want a bunch of traffic and late night activity next to their their property which is very reasonable. So there's a lot of discussion about you know what's the plan. Um and the mayor's point was we don't you know we don't have a plan. We we know it's a good
opportunity to buy property waterfront property that the public will be able to use but there is no secret plan about what we want to put on it. uh he wanted to have the public's input and my purpose is is to have you know all the boards and commissions the residents the
neighbors talk about what does the town want in that space. Is there any quantification reflections from those previous any quantification of the reflections from those previous discussions that we can see where you can't
sense you know so and so said that this was an important issue I don't I don't quantified the minutes of that meeting October 23 Um like I said the the if I recall correctly the main issue was parking and
trash circulation. Uh and then um you know there was several sort of jokes about that you know there might be a water park right that was obviously not going to happen. Um the idea of water park symbolized noise and activity late
in the night. So we were able to answer Michael for how people feel today about circulation those topics. Yeah. And we did respond as a follow to that meeting. Um we restricted parking on the street.
Um and I think that also tied into some of the dock restrictions. Not letting people camp overnight, not letting people have big crews of beer and campfires and things on the dock. So basically the um the way I would
characterize the sum of kind of all the comments is we want a quiet recreation space. That's that's the by sort of passive kayak ramp. No, not a not a motorboat ramp. Maybe a bench. No
lights. Not a parking lot, not a bathroom. That's fine. No, no. So what's the what's the time like so when when do we have to get comments to to the so I'm
sorry um you know I don't know it has to do with the grants and the timing um and then got his open houses coming up so I would say just as it as it comes if you think of things go to open house if you can jot stuff down send it in you can
send it to me maybe to CC shielding something like that but I think it's it's living now it's in process feedback and on 81 but I think they have
So we'll have to come up with when is the June council say June [Music] 20 I think it's the June 23rd meeting. Okay. So there's the June 23rd council.
That's right. Say June 23rd. I saw you and see the dates. So I mean I think Doug I mean generally you know this type of thing you're supposed to prepare a formal not a
resolution but I would guess a formal view. I don't know that it's ready for capital review. So right now that will be provided because what I understand is happy at this point in time. This is the application to get the money. I don't
mean to be crass but that's what this is. This is the application to get the money so that we comply with the county requirements so that we're eligible for the grant and then I think once you get the grant monies we then begin to go and actively do a plan. That was what my
reading of this I mean I this was very helpful and I you know identified one thing on page nine as to the different roles and what cross reference but I don't have anything at that point in time if there are some general concerns
um usually we deal with some kind of a document or presentation that informs us as to what's happening. Yeah. I don't get the sense that we have that other than we need to apply for the grant and if there is a draft grant or something like that that we can look at certainly we can weigh in but I think your
comments or your time is better spent when things have finally gel. I mean well yeah I'm just saying so so the the governing body has asked us as a as a certain amount of practice to take a look at this and they've given us three
things to just look at and so we're being asked to comment on the on the application is that or just provide comments on what we think should happen or what we're concerned about with regards to um you know any zoning or
planning you you know like a master plan in terms insurance. I don't know that you have that. Yeah, I don't think it's the grant. I think that's sort of separate. Um Okay. My you know, since we don't have an actual document to look at, it's a fair point.
Um my instinct is to keep it in in principle. So an informal sort of Okay. And so we can put something together. No, I just want to respond. I have to do something. And so I want you to respond and not have to be like, you know,
planning board members calling me and saying, "Hey, I think we should do X, Y, or Z." Like, well, I think that's again this board only acts as good, not so I would say keep it in principle. So things like, you know, the master plan
says we want to have more walkability, right? Um, so is there a way to incorporate walkability and get that input in to this plan? That's how I would that's the first thing that came to my mind, right? Um, so I would that's
what I would encourage. Do we want to take the environmental commission kind of example and maybe have 10th? I I think maybe we can discuss and then I think that's Yeah, I think that's a great idea. So I think what we should do as a board then is is
if everybody can take a look at at all this documentation, we get the information from the environmental mission and take a look at that and then we can set up a Google doc for the for the planning board um and and people can
can post their thoughts and then to review that at the June 10th meeting and and make that available to the council and to say this is what we our preliminary thoughts are uh and we we've looked at things that you've asked um
around those parameters and and we'll make comments and and then obviously the different formal reviews that where we actually have to take action as a board will come as those as as those you know
as those events demand. Yes, I think that's a good one. Okay. Anybody thoughts or concerns? Okay. So, um so I guess to be clear though that is homework for
everybody between now and right. So I mean yeah this is as thorough as and this is as thorough guidance there's you can ever expect and so thank you to the council for yeah so everybody the planning board section she can circulate
a Google doc link some sort and can start from there that is and are we procedurally is that okay are we allowed to do that kind of Google doc contribution over the course of a month They're all public records when you should. So that doesn't
I mean that's not like meeting without a notice. No, you're not having interact. I'm assuming that you're going to get a link to take a look at whatever documents are available online at this point in time, but you're not really going to look. If you have any concerns about
that, bring those back. We'll discuss those as a board based upon what you saw. I I think what what we would do then for G10 meeting is you know put the Google doc up on the screen. You don't want to at least have copies available for everybody and then we would just
discuss as well. Yeah. And are you saying the Google document is live public on the web as people are working on it or it's in the background and then we present it here which what do you got? I mean that that's that's my reaction to what do you got? Nothing.
Then then then you know I mean but there's going to be something as as things are as council is rolling or are rolling out things for public to view. We know where those are.
I I I don't want I don't want to I don't think it's appropriate for this board or any entity when it's still and this this is a term of art advisory or consultative. But once you have taken action, it's like, okay, this is what we're going to
be then present to county, you'd like, oh, as long as it's from the planning board. Anything we can do preliminarily, it's kind of like this is our packet for the meeting. Okay, this is this is real. We'll take a look at the weigh in. You cross reference that with your master
plan. That's that's already a document. You got they're suggesting active transport. just suggesting inventory suggesting you know you can take a look at it's already I mean I don't know if we have a lot in block but I know where 21 Fair Haven Road is you know you take
a look at the site walk the site you know know what know what zone it's in take a look at what's there realize we may have to create a special use here right I'm assuming that's what you're and what kind of use that would look
like that would then accommodate this potential use. So right now it's like permitted use is not you know a a passive park my truth please don't be bound by that a passive park realize
that one of the things we need to tell mayor council we may need to do some things to either create a a a overlay for this zone for this get the ideas of what would be permitted because again unless it's in the master plan and then
zoning ordinance it's not permitted so that that's the way I would approach I would approach it as okay we know what this is usually we get an engineering report or planners report that says okay these are the things you highlight you can do that on your own with regard to this particular application I mean we
already know where the site is you have some ideas for those things we can look at what we've done for other parks you know how do we create that zone for those other parks how's that defined master plan when account said this is how we treated things before this is going to be a little bit different than
ballpark. This is a little different than that. But that that I you would use as your frame of reference. How do we define parks master plan? Is this anything that's going to require us to make some changes to that? And again, think of broad brush like we talked
about before. Master plan is the structure the or this is where the details are going to be. Okay. So we may we may ultimately be looking at a combination of things from the capital or vehicle. maybe looking at a specific ordinance in this particular park as
where we may be changing zoning or modifying zoning to accommodate this um and identify the uses. I wouldn't I wouldn't concern myself in that at a master plan level as to what time the parks can open and close and how many
cars you're going to that'll be something that you would flesh out in the ordinance. Those are things that you would highlight from your accounts. Be aware of these kinds of things. These are other things that have been used with regard to parks or recreation. These are things that we're on the
lookout if you're, you know, again, enough for master plan level, but if you are going to have folks down there, people are concerned about parking down here. Okay. Well, how people are going to get there? Are you going to have bike ramps? Something as simple as that to make sure that we plan this that we have areas for those and
how that's going to work with that. Other than that, you're left you're you're limited by your own imagination. you know, how would you design this part and make it better for you and your family? I mean, that's you ultimately what we want. We want this to be something if you put it on that very
personal level, you'll get this done. Really helps to have a good lawyer. very uh we'll want the mint memorial lockers. Uh we want the Olsson uh foot
path Tuesday. So uh okay. So we have a plan to just meet this u meet this this request. Uh I think it's a good one. Um and then in terms of uh the uh
so so the the so we should probably have somebody I mean can somebody go in the open house on the meeting? I do plan to be here if you want. I I mean the city so
it's what is sorry what's the date again which 31st at 8:30 a.m. Is that right? And then there's one Saturday the 31st representation possible. Yeah.
So that's 7:30 p.m. on the 28th. 7:30. I I did. It's on our website. Let me double check. Okay. I know they did a fire. Yeah, we can we
can so so a couple my only question is if you all suddenly all show up and there's a form there some Oh, sorry. So my only my only question to you is if you all have spirit that moves you and you all want to go to that presentation if you
count around you and we have a forum somebody leave. Okay. Yeah. Oh, right. Why do I come here? You're you're a council rep. Yeah, you're a class two. So, I there's Before we get to the uh to
the master plan, um I I wanted to ask if there's any um public comment on anything we've discussed so far. Okay. And then before we we start with with the master plan. Um
so Sean uh unfortunately has decided to leave us move in. I just want to uh thank you for your service and his council and all you put into this over the last couple years. It's been a pleasure working with you this year. Um
yeah, sorry to see that you're you're meeting. Thanks. Yeah. So um just again it's really really been helpful as you master plan reexamination. So, so with with regards to the to to
the to the re-examination, so I I we're unable to access or use the planner at this point in time until the purchase order is is released from from the I guess from the bur.
Right. So, we um you know, I I've asked Chris about a few things in terms of [Music] timing. Um I I I mean, he's got I think
other projects that are taking precedence. And so, um, I I think once we have that purchase order, we can then, you know, actually draw down on the time and actually really
start this process. Um, I I don't know if there any other comments or concern about the the reamination um that we we need to go over here tonight. To to the chair, if I could just on one and this may be for
Councilman Olsson. Do we know where the mayor and counts are on their housing element and fair share plan? That's June 10th. That's June 10. So we're going to approve that June 10th. That's that was the other thing that we going to talk
about is that in a sense that does dovetail very nicely with our examination. I said at a meeting where we looked at the housing element and the fair share of plan. Um, you know, that
housing element that's amended is in large part consistent with what you would do in a re-examination. As I've said in the past, once we get further down the line to doing the comprehensive re-examination, you may find that if it
is complete or it is in in as much detail as we need, this will in large part take that housing element off of our plate. Yeah, I exactly. So the June June 10 I'm supposed to get materials or something
prior to that. Um we're gonna date the 26. Well that's what it has to be that that's the deadline. So we were sort of what I understood was on June 10th we were going to take action
to approve the we'll have a draft of of the the planner come July direct to the plan of May 26 for filing on May 30th. That's the time and we'll have that direct review.
Right. So, right. And I thought June 26 was the deadline for the burrow to file the the the elements. Well, I don't have much rather than get bogged down, for instance, the housing
element that I was reviewing and we had reviewed in another municipality. It also had the updated land use map, you know, so that again, that's going to be something that's going to be able to be taken off of our plate in the sense that it will be done. There's no reason to redo that.
I don't think there's going to be things dramatically different from June till the end of until the end of August. So you're going to see those things and that will give you an idea of the housing only. So that will right. So twofold, right? So the
idea we're going to get, I would think, get documentation, you know, within the next week or so that of what we're going to review on June 10th. And so the idea at the June 10th meeting would be to, you know, go through all those
documents, interrogate those documents, ask questions of the planner, and then if there's elements that if there are are things that we want to change or propose comments to, that gives the burrow enough
time before it has to be file, before it has to be officially approved and filed. I think this has to be filed with the court, right? I think so. Doug, do you know it's got to be filed? Correct. I I is there declaratory
judgment outstanding? It may that may be part of your settlement. I do not I do not have that information at my fingertips. I do know that generally what you're going to be doing is is with regard to any it's going to be the re-examination and adoption if you will re-examination and
adoption into the master plan of then what the housing element fair share plan you're going to have all that detail that we discussed polyonically in the past what is our unmet need what is our current need for the third round what we
won't be getting to our fourth round this is pretty much going to be our third round I think you don't have your fourth round numbers. How did we get our number? What did you massage? You're going to have your issues with regard to what vacant land is available, what those assessments are, what your unmet
need is from years prior, if any, and that should all be broken down into the housing element of the fair share plan. What we're going to be ultimately doing is taking a look at that, having the presentation from our professionals,
garnering their opinion that if once amended, our master plan will then be consistent with the documents that were then legitimate. So, a little bit of a chicken and egg. Obviously, you know, we're in a sense saying that this document once we amend our master plan, they'll be
consistent with the master plan. But that will be your role when we take a look at those things to get that back to that hearing as to whether or not that has to go to the board. Generally, it would not. Generally, it's just like any other master plan amendment that
we're doing. You have to give notice and I understand we've had we've had a back and forth as to what the notice is but your notice generally goes out publication 10 days before the hearing also goes out to our constituent through the municipalities that are joining us
and it also goes out to the office of public ad um may have that wrong but there's an additional state agency plus our county planning board gets a hard copy of that plan we then have our hearing we take comments we request are there. If the
board is satisfied, it takes it takes to vote. Usually, unlike what we usually do where there's a month in between, usually you're also including that resolution or read that resolution into the record because most of the data is already known. It's rather important for
project that if it is adopted is consistent. So, you're going to have that that hearing. We have done things like that in the past. use your print of records. When we amend it, I think it's transportation
and different municipalities would call it different things, but when we did our walking and our biking and those things, we made that part of the master plan. Again, we just we had our hearing on that and adopted that as one of our elements in the master plan. The transportation, okay, the transportation,
we didn't you don't you're not sending it to the court. The only reason that you might send it to the court is if there is something involved still outstanding in litigation where you had to make sure but I thought we was all that aspect of it already. So I I you shouldn't have to go to the court for
that unless there's something outstanding with with our prior act. Chair I have dates from Drew on open houses for 21 period. So, Thursday, May 22nd, this Thursday, this Thursday, from
7 to 8:30 here in this building, and then Saturday the 31st at the site from 8:30 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. [Music]
So, it's two days. Two days and then another one Saturday. Okay. Does [Music] anyone the action was to recruit people for our little committees for the
sub specifically for I have conservation recreation. Um, so I' I've done that. What is the process? I mean, do you have to I think we would confirm it.
Um, I don't think we need council approval. I mean, this is our master plan. No, no. That's fun. You folks own the mess. Yeah. So, I think people Yeah. here. I mean I for the the elements that
each person never you know they should come to the meeting they should you know you should meet them you should you know explain you know as much as you can process so everybody
understands and but yeah so following that whole new uh a new member um in short stress coming down. So
the spending get approved. Yeah. So, so the plan um the planned out um I they have to issue the or they they have to go one more I think the council has to issue the the purchase order so they have to go it's like the next
council meeting oh they yeah it will be available the so and then it takes there's like a 20day period after that date. Wait, I'm sorry. Say there's a 20day waiting period after
that. So, it really brings us closer to the end. It's probably not until the July meeting that the purchase order is the 20day apply professionally according to the
CFR. Yeah. Okay. you may be able to roll depending on what council advises us because anything that's going to be built by Mr. S will come due later. I don't know how how
you've done this with your profession before he wasn't going to be ready much for July anyway. Well, I I know you've got the horizon where we're focused on your survey get going on that. I'm just wondering if work can be done which is
going to build into the into the July cycle without necessarily ask about you don't do something like that but speaking from we don't do that either like
Never mind. We don't want to as much as as much as I would like to it's not advisable. All right. Anybody anything any anything else? Uh any anybody from the public like comment board members before
we make a motion close. Uh second opposote. Thank you.