brother Greg good all right this is the Fair Haven shade tree Commission meeting of March 5th 2025 this is the regular meeting of the shade Commission of the burough Fair Haven in accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings ACT public
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building and has remained continuously posted as required under the statute with adequate notice having been given the shat Tre commission secretary is directed to include this statement in the minutes of this meeting I just realized I skipped the call the order
oh no roll call call absent petti is absent Mike D'Angelo here Mike Hoy absent Chris Larson here Chris McCade said he'd be
here Rebecca she's the last council meeting she was and then she well Jill Sullivan here Bonnie Toria yeah also pres councilman La Barbara and
burough secretary Christy LaRon you have a quorum you please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance toag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liy and justice for all right everybody look at the prior meeting minutes second are you sure everybody was here I think you have know just thinking that
you you put in who was present yes okay like was J I thought he wasn't here I don't know I just was like thinking back thought called you on it but I like were you at me there a line that says abent
Angelo M coun Bar oh I'm sorry no I didn't see that oh it said I saw present and then absent so they're on they're on both oh so sorry so I didn't even look at absent I just remember I
there all right so had a motion to approve minutes I get a here that's want to Second this yes I can second it okay all right we're going to move on to the project
updates uh the community forestry management plan and Grant we are now it is now official we have issued a purchase order to Bill Brash um he was not able to come to this meeting but he will be at the next meeting to discuss
um his process was required for this plan I understand right you yeah oh yes yeah yep we got the Grant and um so it's like net net right it is
Grand and he it cost him 5,000 he charges 5,000 congratulations thank you um so he will be at the next meeting and Christy you brought this up before about Distributing the current plan oh right I
can send it to all the members are the one that expired if we had a fair Havens 2014 to 19 plan that was the last one and now I could circulate that with the new updated guidelines for anyone who wants to review prior to Mr BR com yeah I think it would just be a good idea if we just kind of thumb through it a
little bit so we have you know any questions Mr R we can discuss I think it's going to totally different this time sure it is that's good too and um but you know please get an idea of where we're where we should be did he suggest
anything that we should be doing fire not yet he's gonna we haven't really had I haven't talked to him since we issued the pl but he said he wasn't able to come to this meeting but he said he would be at our April meeting is this one now we have to start
taking back of our hours our volunteers y we can start recording any work we do for it now that he got Grant like he the date award was I don't know the exact date but we the work starts from that award date which is
unforunate so like what are we like what kind of volunteer hours are we recording orack sh means where you discuss it um if any member has an offline conversation with Mr Brash about the plan or does any insul work that he
requests the sh Tre to do for the plan so not just reading through it and making notes and I get like I mean that counts counts that's counts on it okay yeah you can email me if you guys do any work on the side and I'll just have a master's reporting he's already asked
for the inventory data the true ends report so I've sent him a ton of stuff to get a leg up so hopefully when he comes in April he'll have some suggestions and plan of attack and there wasn't refresh my memory like any
recorded before this is not applicable D going forward right like our all our discussions will the and stuff like that for the $5,000 Grant to match is 25% 12250 and that adds up very quickly
with a volunteer rate of 3350 so I I don't foresee any problem we how many hours do we need you said it really quick oh sorry it's it's very it's it's not a lot 1250 divid by what 3350 I mean in that 12 we allotted some
to me and Nick some we'll get Nick and D's opinion on something not be an issue no but as as we just keep remember to keep track of it yeah just send me and I'll keep it all organized sounds good and if you do just
by the way just say I did this for this much time even if it's like 20 minutes there CH welcome Chris um so that's it that's where we're at with this well done and that's to December 31st
right yes uh was it due right at the end of the year they suggested handing it in submitting it by December 1st because it takes the state Forester ampleon to review and then get it totally okay check the box before that
leave that I would say that would the goal of these submissions is okay and that's I have for that we'll move on to uh spring resident tree buying program right so we're good to go
um we have a nice selection of trees and the program will start on Monday the 10th and run through March 31st will be the order taking
window um and that gives us enough time to kind of aate everything and get it over to Fernbrook and then they will plant miday is um do you uh do you have communication going out like from the
buser or something say that again do you want a communication already have a communication plan to go out like to the residents of it yeah B um usually [Music] um blast that with the it'll go
Monday and then um Leah will put it on our social media but I would really encourage everybody here yourself included to like f like to share it within your own Pages because our our social media following is only a couple
hundred people so um as much as possible to get it out um if you're left to do that in your capacity as a council person that would be great I bless that's yeah um so yeah so you know looking to um you know just get as many
in in the ground as we can uh the the new thing this year and this was um B's suggestion uh is that we are offering add-ons um one being a gator bag for
watering uh they could add that on to a tree that they purchase and fbook will bring it uh the other thing um are the trunk wraps for the deer protection so those will be available for an additional charge
um obviously people could buy them separately uh but at least it kind of draws awareness to the fact that they're a good idea sure um the other thing I don't we I'll just lump this in here because we had talked
about it the memorial tree program is not on here right no no okay um so I spoke with them about that as well um um and just uh definitely needs to kind
of hash this out a little bit more but their uh recommendation would be that we would run this program on the same timeline as the resident tree buying program um because they would not want
to come out and plant one-offs which I can understand um and we had discussed uh I don't know if brought it up here if it's is just Bonnie I just say this so I'll say it again um the
idea that we would identify locations in town and then um you know Mark them basically it could be through the arbor Pro tree plotter you know software that we have or we could just maintain some
sort of um list I think I would you know maybe it's a combination of those where we would identify the plots Within you know within the software and then and then maybe like have like some sort of you know document like we do for the resident Tre B program um and we would
work with thr Brook and maybe Sherie to kind of identify within those locations an option like a a menu of options that a somebody that wanted to purchase a memorial tree would be able to pick from so if that's you
know a holly or a oak tree whatever I mean just two random examples like they could pick that for that location because that would be the right tree for that spot um and the trees would be independent of what we are offering for
the resident tree buying program so you know somebody could in theory buy a memorial Tree in July but it wouldn't get planted until the until the fall planting of the resident tree Bing program so I think that there's some of these there that's what they are they
recommend and they're willing to do now clearly on our end we need to like run this up the you know in order to get it approved as a program you know because this would be planting in theory on public property um so I think we just
need to kind of like work out what those details would look like and if it's something that the town would want to support obviously yeah um you know I think that there's also the aspect of how um how the res would pay for it like
how that would work out you know with the burrow or if it would be directly with Fernbrook or if we wanted to kind of also provide options on how somebody would would black this you know plot if
if we want to allow that or if it's just kind of you know they just know it's surgery um and then also the care that's associated with that with the new planting um if somebody you know chooses that to to to do this you know is it
their responsibility on this public property to water and wrap it and kind of like babysit it until it's established yeah so I think that these are all like the things that over the next couple meetings or whatever we should
probably think about and then you know kind of put you know throw a proposal to you that you could take to council um but you know it would be great to Target this perhaps for the fall the first time sure to roll it out and we
can leverage all the lessons learned that Bonnie and Mark have done on Third Street right we've done plantings on public property right we have a pretty good process so if you want to grab a cup of coffee let's go through outline it we can kind of start initial coordination internally and see what questions come up but but we have the one tree right one Memorial Tree on
Thursday do we have only just done one with um The Garden Club member who passed and family wanted to do that right so they did that through the rese buying the resident tree buying program which something that they said that they would be willing to do if somebody wanted to plant something on the Third Street Trail they said that that's fine
they could they could go in there again this is more about like identifying like a like other places in town that somebody might want something or something outside of that program if they wanted something specific um that could kind of
live throughout the year like this is you know somebody decides they want to purchase a memorial tree around Christmas time or something like that they they could actually say I want this tree it's going to go here and now you know it's like they reserving their spot almost and the tree
just wouldn't go in the ground until until at Levy live day you can almost have if you wanted to I mean maybe we don't get approval I don't think we going to get done that fast it's yeah that's I mean that's well we at the
August remember we talked about the farmers market um advertising would be a coordination I mean if this was done in time for the launch of um of the Fall planting like yes okay you know
if that was our Target they said sure table would happen spring but I think if you just if you compile the information like in in like some type of bite up send it to me and I can start coordinating now thanks great yeah sure yeah no problem I think yeah I
mean the pla we did I feel like we did a plaque for something right was it the um it was for the big Tre H that was really big yeah this is I mean like a small
something I know thatout supposed to do in the thiry trail yeah they got boycott put them up picture thing I remember um yeah I mean you could get I mean obviously they have colleges and stuff they have like little grass
something you know just small small yeah um I just know they're price yeah you be careful of what you're strapping on the tree it grows then it grows into the bark or something they without paying attention and Stu like that I was kind of envisioning it being put into the ground no yeah could
be I I I love the idea I think though the um as far as the care and plaque I think that might be something we should kind of push off onto I don't s it's sensitive but you know they
should we want them to be uniform I think the plaque you can't like we kind of say what you're allowed and not allowed to do yeah I mean I could picture that going wrong I mean we we have a place that they ordered from and they pay for it and they do that but
it's a standard La that we've already approved yeah I I I guess um I mean I I can't imagine that this is going to be something that is you know
we're not going to be doing hundreds of Memorial trees so maybe it's some relationship we could have like Beacon or something like that and they could just call and um I know one of the times when I was at the shore shet tree every
graduating class they do a tree a memorial tree for and plant it like you do it at marter or something like every you know I don't know if it would be fifth grade class every fifth grade class or something or eighth grade or whatever I don't just an
idea I know that's lots and lots trees but but if you spent if all the kids you know donated to it whatever buta um yeah I mean that if they wanted to do
that on this one the ideas will we got the plan place to facilitate but let the ideas roll in from the purchaser yeah yeah I we'll just we'll
just put the framework out there so what what is the tree list um that you set the final one the that yeah because remember um Nativity wanted a bunch of Oaks so we be sure that they get the notification I to John today oh you did
okay perfect okay just because I know they want of them yeah and the memorial trues are the same truths that or they can pick something else if it's something else so like we if we it would just be planted at the same time so not all we would you know depending on the
spot you wouldn't want to just say like it varies by this list because not all these trees would be appropriate for that spot so it would really be about identifying the tree the right tree that could go into that location and maybe it's a selection of three or whatever
um but fir Brook said that they would help us with that like kind of identifying um the right treat for locations that we pick I mean I I kind of feel like you know if we start off with identifying like T
spots um and then see how that goes and then if you know we could if once five are gone maybe we add five more on or something like that and just you know like kind of like always have at least five out there sure you know yep
sounds good sounds good are we going to do any trees as part of this sh commission we app to you um I think we first the program approved Oh you mean
the yeah yeah no just PL and yeah that should be new business okay yeah yeah um thank you Jill sure um moving on Green Team Natural Area um
so the Natural Area we were supposed to actually have a walk through with the park system today but it's because the strong Wes they canel so that's next week um just trying to get their advice on things and see what they think about the deer brows and you know just we we
do that every once in a while walk through the park system they're so good and helpful um the um the Green Team submitted thank you chrisy 60 points for the on tree
tree actions This Woman's like you know on fire um but we have two 115 points on our way to 350 to get recertified silver and that's so we had one deadline in the end of February and
now the next one's up in May what's gold 660 gold is gold is is you have to do specific actions like a Health a big Health action or a big like they're big actions that we're kind of working on but it's a a lot more of a commitment
too they only two yeah it's it's a big two Town two two Golds what two yeah yeah so it's it's it's big I mean yes if we could get a lot more help we
could it's a lot of work um and so the live day is on the 27th so we talking about Willow and marter park and we're trying to figure out the logistics of closing Willow Street and um we have 7th
of April April y so it's the end of Earth week um and I know we had talked about doing um I let to talk about that now or is that like business day activity that
we were talking about oh that's fter um you know we talked about maybe getting like a little pass having stations like the kids could go in the park and I was thinking we have something to do with um the Sal mes and
you This brilliant idea that you with this beard it was the beard that inspir you could be John benwick right who met with the L the you could tell the history immedately and the kidss could
have you know they have to visit John Fenwick about the history um and then maybe a lot of fun John I know I actually I will do it what time okay um well you gonna write my script I have something for you to study I
actually I keep it light keep it light how many bullet points I need bullet points that's how I operate you got your costume too yeah you got get costume never mind all right no no no l that costume when I saw that beard
that the the queen of day there will be photographers correct but then I was trying to think what what other things we could do I mean you know you get the kids to collect 10 a FS or something or uh find because they're Hickory find something like collect things have them
collect a bunch of different things um I mean we had a green team meeting and there were a bunch of young mothers saying whatever you can do just keep these kids busy like running around the park well I'm going to play the character as a orary angry Woodsman okay and I'll just boss these kids around
okay there you go perfect um but we could do um I was going to reach out to have a big tree hunt there's a huge that huge oak tree which I think is like being looked at for because it's so big um at the corner
but the kids could measure it and they'd be you know it would definitely Fall by as it's monstrous which one it's it's at the southeast corner there a bunch of big Oaks but there's one that's just m um but Sher I saw Sher looking at like no no no I I don't know they just have
to keep an eye on it but um but we just have like think about other things that we could do there um scavenger hun yeah but so what like what like mean also I mean I'm saying it's a park and kids are going to have fun just running around
right but if we're but it has to do something with trees right so we have to have um you know tree facts like they and if we're going to do this little thing that they check up I met John Fenwick I measured the tree I picked up 10 acorns or something you know and then and then
what did they get did they get a gift certificate to something did they get you know just kind ofis and who do I have working because I'm I'm one of the people in charge of it so um Le and I sat at the table both time I probably have to do a couple other things just
it's are people on the 27th Sunday April 27 a Time body 1: to 4: I can set out a signs if you want that would be great I don't have anything on my calendar that day so okay you can think about who you want to be well maybe I mean you could talk
about the resident I don't know we could have something I don't know that's done by then okay talk about that okay all right um think of something and thought okay so wait you want I thought you wanted me to sit at the table is what you can sit the table we can have information whatever you
want you just wait me I mean we had that one year I bought the White Oak and we auction that off but that didn't really one little girl stupped the box it kind of random I'm not sure if we do that again but um but we have information
table what could just be the place that they come back with their scavenger H yes and you check them off and you get them a sticker or something that's like little tree stickers every time they check on le le Leaf yeah
okay um okay and um all right so if we get the signup sheet so we'll work on that just keep brainstorming good ideas um do we have any electrial materials we do I have on my stickers books in my basement
in a box I have some stuff um and just it's not I mean we're we're talking about Third Street Trail becoming part of the nationville area so we had clean up on Sunday and we had like 33 people including some shade tree
members Chris and Chris and um the mayor showed up and um you see numbers it was great so we actually cleaned out as you walk down the path to the right right across in the F Gard so we do have room for some Memorial trees now we have some
we kind of cleaned out but there some space there so if anybody wants to do that and the natural are is having a clean up actually the same weekend at the uh April 26 27th but in the morning
in the Natural Area if anybody wants to do that fun okay April 26th and 27 y it's from uh 11 to1 all right thank you
Bonnie Arbor Day Arbor day is Friday April 25th um right right before level day so um my one question Bonnie were you planning on doing any plantings you want watch this year for Arbor Day or leading
up to it we what leading up to ARB day we're actually on the day um I know Mark talked about maybe getting some seat leadings I um Chrissy did you hear from uh tree recovery whatever the you know we used to get that yeah so I'm not
sure I Googled it I didn't see anything about 2025 so I don't know those on you Robin passed out yeah yeah it was kind of tricky because we changed locations yeah so I I don't I haven't
seen anything decided not to get them decided to stop getting them no but we got them last year but that was okay the same thing and I said s in the report and said how many we away and pictures and all that stuff um so anyway I'm happy to go pick them up at ruers that's
where they usually hand them out they do that um so we don't have any definite plans um but that's what I was thinking that's it's too early for doesn't coordinate
with resident Tre buying Arbor Day yeah um oh regardless me I know we I think you did last year the year yeah yeah um well we did the Christmas tree and the S mugs last year right um uh this year obviously we're going to do the we'll do
the library event it's usually on a Tuesday which is children's CL the sickles age kids and then it'll be a tree theme again um and then U for the no what age kids will be the poster contest hopefully all grades will
participate uh I'm thinking of starting the contest on March 17th and having it due on actual Arbor Day which is the 25th and then the week after I think our our next meeting will be Monday or sorry Wednesday the May 7th
when we can um pick the winners and then announce it and have the winners come to our meeting on June for so I'll have that all an email send that to you Christie wasn't there something that was going to increase like one of the art
teachers is going to get them all Le was going to do that she said she talked to somebody try to it would be nice because it it was you know it's kind of scattered our kids grade there was one
submission which was my son well it's an elective so on sixth seventh and eth you can elect not to be oh is that right yeah regardless hopefully we get more participation this year yeah Mak it a homework assignment I mean it's so it's but uh yeah it's
always been successful I think we've always had some fun with it especially when the uh winners in each grade come here for the photo opportunity in June so right they grad graduate next summer and that's about it all right sounds
good um I have a request little birdie told me gave me a suggestion that they thought maybe uh Nicholas crey be better than k okay something along those lines yeah all right do that what does everybody
think about that we've done Canyon pass every year but uh you know sometimes there's not a lot of stuff for fourth fifth sixth graders yeah at Canyon pass so that be either or be both usually we
do we get a a PO for right through the burrow ahead of time so I don't know it's wor the shot yeah maybe see can get two instead of one yeah years past it was one grade winner One winner per grade so was five times
$50 so you could always do more prizes less money right or you guys decide that's true we could do top two in each grade and then have a $25 de certificate when we use the same budget I think sickles is a good idea yeah
so yeah we can switch it up yeah absolutely you know what now now now my head my wheels are turning maybe we can get Miss Edwards to do like a tree themed ice cream for her that time
Spruce I don't know how that I don't know how she could do but she's done so many crazy different flavors that I'm sure she can come up with something aorn ice cream that's actually a phenomenal idea I think I think I would want to play with that just doesn't one of the
schools does like make your own ice cream right they all do and then and then don't they like actually it sells the most or something make all of them and they pick the winner and then they actually make it for the next year I love that idea so cute get
$2500 yeah so I will speak to miss Ed Mrs Edwards about that because I'm sure she would love to do something that's fantastic as long as it's okay like sometimes when we isolate businesses in in burrow gets a little sticky I'm not sure what do you think I think it' be
okay okay yeah I mean it's it's all going to be buff board there's going to be yeah I'm I'm not concerned about it okay yeah yeah I'll reach out to her that's a good idea yeah good idea that'll be fun that was good I think what other
flavors you would have black walnut just the name maple syrup maple syrup sugar yeah sugar maple suap cie all right we ice cream
while all right thank you Mike uh community outreach ladies we skip over we're moving on to resident education awareness back to me um I actually put together a list of some bullet points that I meant to email to
chrisy and forgot and therefore I just have an old school piece of paper with some ideas on them um I wanted to keep them simple bullet points um I'm thinking you know five bullet point I
don't know if you were here when we were discussing this originally the um thinking about you know a plan to put signage out or have people come up and pick up signs yep you
away uh put them on your yard in front of a tree maybe in front of their house or whatever um with a um QR code that hope will grab people's attention and maybe they'll scan it and it'll just bring them to a link where it's got
quick bullet points of you know tree facts love it benefits to the you know the environment the immediate area um and uh you know just something that you know keeps people thinking about trees so um so I
was just putting together a list doing a little little bit of research I don't know if anybody wants to hear some of these or if anybody has any ideas or knows any uh tree facts by now we should all have we should all know some tree facts I guess by now um I I got resar before I agree to do
this us Mr Fenwick with these oh God Spirit you're right Christie I don't know if I'm be a I don't know I'm be able to keep that one even kiss me now I'm pretending to be another guy this getting [Music]
weird all be recording um anyway uh mature evergreen tree can intersect that was a word that's weird more than 3,900 gallons of water every
year ever did you know that B I know they yeah just disperse it and down and according to Penn State School Of Agricultural Science a single mature Oak can consume and
transpire which means uh over 40,000 gallons of water in a year L Water Deep yeah um trees also transpire I don't know if anybody knew about this they they can suck up the water and then over
time they release it back into the environment by leaves they sweat they cool the air they sweat essentially they cool the air yeah uh average tree can collect 22 pounds of
carbon dioxide per year and there were also some uh physical and mental health uh facts about trees they're doing a study at the University of Michigan uh hospital patients with rooms with uh overlooking
trees and good views recover quicker than room hospital rooms with no view um they reduce stress and anxiety amongst young people um so goes on but question yes so
love the idea are there when we get to the location of the QR code M I'm thinking like what about on third Trail side or fairen field side right like you know how like we have like the
wooden signs so what if we just have like a QR code there and people can scan it right as they're going about sure you put one there Q code is so it's so passive right it's not obstructive
whatsoever yep um I would want to think through like who's updating it so every time you're scanning it maybe it's updated once a week once a month right so it's not just the same information over and over right I don't know if they have like an RSS feed I'll call it for uh treea but just a thought process yeah
right good idea haven't gotten that far yet but good could you give the kids some of these things and have them write the message and then draw the whatever the artwor to it's having something to do
with the wonderful tree fact I don't know an educational relation to ARB yeah use them as a guide if they wanted to do that yeah just to to get more I mean it's nice that they learn something
when they're doing oh absolutely absolutely yeah you like me to pass along my tree packs do you know um when I was at the shore area sh3 meeting um they said that um Bill Brash does um
educ because you were talking about education he does an education program for them every year um and they get ceu points for it so he does this he's going Rew working with this maybe he would do one in town I know tree trimming or
something like that be wor asking and see if there points from sustainability perspective on some type of educational Outreach from that perspective yeah we were just talking about can uh yeah we'll ask Bill not here we'll
ask him when we see to the next meeting ask another question sure I just did but I'm G to ask another one um and I'm not trying to be funny no what is the purpose of Resident education specific to trees
so it's kind of along line with the tree ordinance all right there was as you know know pretty contentious to be and I thought one of the best ways to kind of work through all that is just to kind of
create a just a mindset around town that you need to appreciate trees or you should appreciate trees and people moving into town should understand that you're moving into town a town of people that appreciate
trees and they're not something that just come in buy a new house or you know renovate a new house or whatever and just mow down your trees in your backyard right just give you know give people pause and some you know thought value associated with I
also think isn't it part of our role as shade tree commission I think we have kind of an education requirement we're supposed to no no I to totally get that I understand what's mandated right what I'm getting at is that there's a certain behavior that we're trying
to have these r it is we're trying to achieve something right like we're not just we're not just picking random data points just putting out there and hope people read it right like we want people to retain trees on their property we want people to plant trees on their property we want right we are looking
right it's one thing to say we're mandated to do research right or mandated to do education but what are we ultimately trying to have the resident do right and so anytime I think of messaging right I always think of who's my target audience
MH right how do I reach that target audience and what themes are I trying to um publicize that will resonate with them right sure and so I guess I don't really have an ask
out of this as more of there needs to be purpose and and intent behind it and what we're trying to achieve and then ultimately what you want to do is how can I measure how successful I am right M so if you did the QR code for example all right cool I had
150 you know snaps or quick that's a measure right maybe out of 150 There's an opportunity for followup maybe out of those 150 There's an opportunity by a resident tree to participate in the Resident tree Bri program right I would start thinking
through like specific outcomes that we're looking for in our education and then work backwards from that because we want to put things in place to see how effective our messaging is M and so a parallel that I'm drawing is is whether you're educating on facilities right or
you're trying to gauge insights in how residents feel on topic X right there's there's just a little bit more there and I'm more than happy to dive into with you sure um so appreciate let me yeah no it's a good idea I I didn't think about
the you know measuring the results on the other side of it but really I I'd like to just build an awareness and you know the sign itself and I not an elaborate sign I'm thinking like you know like you
temporary open house signs or those political signs you see everywhere yeah use one of those but just build an awareness if you know if enough people come to pick them up and they are just scattered about 10 it's not the right word but like everybody you know
you when you see them on every three or four homes you know all of a sudden this will starts to build I think it so so just cuz now got the creative juices going you know uh way back when you can get Flamingo you know the flamingo what if
you created like something like that right I'll use the metaphor right so there was this whole I don't know what you what you call it Cy like movement or whatever but people there was a bunch of flamingos literally flamingos they put in the ground flocked and they flocked and they went from house to house and
right so like you wanted to see where did the flamingos go right so what if gift it to you you didn't know it just show up in your yard one day but all the money went to a very good C so what if what if what if you had a forest right and you got you know planted one day and then you want to see who gets planted
next right like I'm just trying to think of right of what what has resonated in town so that you get people to participate number one and then number two is what information do you associate with that right maybe a couple of the plantings right have QR codes and they click on hey this is a this is a white
oak this is a red oak this is of that you know I'm just trying to help achieve the goal which is I think the education is great I think the awareness is great and I think what we want to see is we want to see change right we want to see people planted more I want to see more resident
you know if we do these Memorial I want to see huge participation in it right you want to grow that movement offer the town Bradley Beach said they nominated tree of the month so like they'll say you know Drew's maple tree is being honored this month or whatever probably not it's a
Norway I'm sorry but sorry I'm just sorry but you saved it I know I know sorry we don't spitball here no I love that I love that idea right like you know I mean like we could highlight um
um I don't know like you just nominate like three of the month I mean it's a lot of work and Leah you know I don't know she wants to do that on Instagram would that be you have the residents here you put it on them that's why if you Flamingo if you got flamingoed it was on that Resident to then go Flamingo somebody else so like so if you get a
tree in your yard you have to send any information on your tree no yeah maybe like hey like you you got treed or something I don't know and right trees report back tell us what what they I think you make fun then fun leads to learning yeah make it fun learning
fun sounds good Tre just one quick thing we have ventured there before with uh caring for trees not so much education and planting of trees but you know we we had a program a couple years ago where we uh sent out flyers about the dangers
of Ivy growing on trees um and it would have been nice to you know to evaluate how many people actually listened um um to those to to that advice and then actually cut the IDE on their trees around because we did we have like yes
planting is great and PR but also maintenance and care of your current trees is actually I would say even more important yeah I'm I'm I'm 100% with you right like I look out my backyard and I'm not going to call out a specific neighbor right there's like a beautiful
row of trees and they're all covered in Ivy I just want to go to them and say like just cut it let it you know let it I I've done that with my neighbor definitely especially cuz you you could say to them listen there are children in this neighborhood the more this iy grows on this tree the more simple it is to
damage to the tree and you don't want or fall yeah exactly that damage eventually fall and you don't know which way that's going to fall pictures of the tree so I have no problem like I tell my neighbors all the time like that could be a danger we have a lot of kids and animals and pets and families here damage the houses
you know and it's all about like creating that momentum right so maybe we create create an incentive like hey like I come to you hey you got you know two pieces Ivy and then you need to pay forward then you go you know to the next like I don't know
there's there's always ways to engage right there are and you want to be able to measure the success of what you're do right the res resident tree B program is fantastic how many trees were bought last year do you know 75 amazing yeah I
would then say how many have survived right question I would then say you know like what are and then let's say we have an 85% success rate right 15% died off just because of natural like that's huge man put that information out there hey we had 75 trees last year it's up x amount of percent and out of those 85
this many you're actually making an impact right right then you could tie to the environmental tree inventory er er excuse me well the environmental commission were PR all right I'm conflating my apologies but my point is
is that like you can tie it all together just makes that much of a success story so absolutely I'm more than happy to help but I I completely agree with you we have to sort of uh evaluate how we did if we're going to in you know integrate a program then we have to see
like what the outcome is and it should be something measurable like you said which would be nice 100% yeah y so if you guys want Frameworks on this stuff I've done large scale messaging I'll call up before right so I'm more than happy to kind of give you Frameworks and help you guys well yeah thank you
appreciate it um all right that's what I have for now calendar updates Peter's not here we are going to move up to Bonnie's favorite subject sorry get my tissue
out we play this the whole this is including by the way while we're passing anybody see on Facebook someone had mentioned there's a whole bunch of trees that were cut at meta Brook yes meid EXC me yeah you see in the picture no I have a picture drone
picture I have no doubt that you would not I was wondering what that was today oh it's awful well so I think the idea they got that huge Grant for $150,000 there there used to be just one entrance into the parking lot and everybody got all clogged up for sporting events and
they got to go in and out so I think they they're going to make some sort of two entrances and they're expanding they're doubling parking something so they had to take all the trees down hey chrisy I have a question for you so out of these
16 which ones wouldn't have been approved under the previous ordinance question obviously all the hazards they would hazards are yeah removal dead obviously right the only way it would
noted percentage of your block coverage yeah because three I'm curious I'm curious on the the first one construction number three I I don't have any insights into why the Church
they they're the on and they're going to replant that's their where they're going to replant all these uh the res tree Bine right where they I told them i' send them the information when it's out next week and Bonnie what do you think about Cooney because I've seen that lot and that lot
is level were there trees there before where's a and coone I haven't been down there I haven't walked down there oh walk by is it the lot is that is it on the river yes I mean even the the house is gone so it's completely cleared but I I'm like were there trees there before
because it's there's nothing there now and they're rebuilding the foundation it says one London Plane you wouldn't see it here it would have to be on like the planning board or something thinking know they came to the Zone board and they wanted to straighten out the
driveway I believe in the tree okay so so here's my question right number one is a one for two ratio right one 32 uh there's no replacement from number
two I thought that the ordinance whatever you took out you had to replace unless it's dead do you have little silver makes they have if even if it's a hazard you would PL another one yeah hold on I just
want so so interesting so the current or so CHR real quick I I just want to finish my train thought so the current ordinance if it's a hazard you don't have to replace it correct correct okay and then how come if you look at 15 and
16 four Hemlock one dead Apple only two trees one Evergreen one sua one silver maple is the assumption is that because they're already dead you don't need to replace it like for example in 15 four and one so one is one Apparently
one of the hemlocks was a removal the rest of the headlocks in the apple or dead okay so you do not have to replace if it's dead Hazard think about that though because how many most of the trees that are on
this report are classifed Hazard I Shar goes there and looks at them and she makes the determination tot I'm not yep I'm not I'm not challenging the cte's reason right or anything like that yeah the original intent right was that
for everyone that's taken down two put up and so that over time there should be an increase with this data over the first three months shows me is is that that's not what's happening because majority of the trees that are coming out are
considered hazardous or dead okay Chris can we have a can we have an offline conversation sure on this data and then I'll just leave it like that yeah okay sure all right thank you this is great I think as we're getting into the spring there's been a
lot more applications filled out and I think maybe like like halfway through the year after six months of data might have a real fful conversation about the process so curious all of these hazards Sherry has been out to the house and who
paid for Sherry the bur why I thought we were trying to pass that on to the we pay majority of it but there's a small fee associated with the treeart application appliation there's a $50 application fee and then an on-site fee of $25 an inspection fee fee so we make
25 so we collect 75 per application um and Cherry costs 140 an hour an hour exactly how much time does she I I'm just trying to decide do we are we covering our Sherry
cost I think the burrow takes on more of the cost associated with this I mean Cherry does a really good job of trying to that's why if you look at these dates right there were three on the 13th three on the 3 you know she'll try and hold off as long as she can because when she travels here that's cost she's here
that's cost and or there's some she doesn't make clumps yeah would it be would it make sense to follow up with these people who have now have taken a tree out of the property with saying you know we do have a resident tree I do that I go back to
list from like far back data as I have of people taking down I send them the Flyers and has anybody yeah go good for a lot of them from the hazard taking down okay make it so easy spend this money put here like check check done
like it's amazing yeah and I love the add-on idea the Hercules bed sorry I'm getting off track the Gat the gator bag Gator bed the most important thing that is important but thek every new tree I see that's not
protected has SP row and it's a killer it's going to kill it's hugely important that they do that we can't make up I I but you know what I almost think if burbrook is guaranteeing the
trade right they should require it because it's protecting the tree that they're going to have to replace if it to replace it if you don't take care of it properly that's not part of their guarantee the Buck Rub is so if you said it got Buck Rub they wouldn't
that's you can't control the deer no but it's a very easy solution to put this this thing on it's not firm Brook's responsibility that okay I just was curious I I didn't know who I know the one tree died that sweet that sweet
bed Magnolia that I repurposed and put in the natur are but um I they water hey um Mike to to Loop something that we talked about before M so if there was another column here added and
you put participation in Resident treeb program then you can measure full cycle when the tree permit communication reach out and then if they participated if it was effective now pictured here there's a many more columns including the replacement date that they sent me a
picture or I write spr program whatever oh you did there's your measures awesome still a quick question I might get asked um for the those add-ons you mentioned the gator and will those be installed by fbck or they'll just be G like their purchase will be left to the
res that's a good question I didn't clarify that with them but I will I mean all they said about the gator bags is that they're not filling them with water like the resent has to do that themselves so um yeah I'll I'll ask okay uh moving on to the tree
ordinance appendix a um last time we met I was going to speak with the attorney or accounting attorney regarding what changes we can make to the appendix without
causing um a big to-do I did speak with him and he said that um you changes to our recommendations uh recommended tree list and you know or that link um is
perfectly acceptable to him we're not changing you know the me of the ordinance the law of the ordinance or anything like that he said it's your recommendations you can go ahead and update them change them you know Implement what you want on that end did you see what I sent you yep I did see
that I was going to bring that up it U seems like a good list and I think we could it it would be very good number one it was put out by m County shade tree commission right and um you know we just Bonnie forwarded me a list from the M County sh Tre
commission they put out I mean those was the a new list new that was from the shore area shade trade that's they sent so um so it's all upto-date information all up- to-date recommendations for MTH County um I think it would be a very
good list a very good reference and I I think we should use pretty much all of it the only thing I didn't like about it was they did list non-natives yeah n and and the shrubs yeah problem so we could I think if we chrisy is there any way
you were on that email can you pop that kind of a long list but um you get the idea but I think if we remove the shrubs bushes um and um
non-natives I think we have something pretty good one one thing about the native non-native thing I know want to encourage them but we also had this initiative where we were you know going
to with Cher trees and that's something that we're offering um you know in the Resident tree buying program most of what we're offering is native with the exception of two things so it kind of like messaging
there is a little off a little off yeah um so I guess I guess my my thought would be like maybe you identify on this list which which ones are native versus non-native and they recommend natives
but don't necessarily say that not they do that is what they do here oh yeah I see so I mean couldn't we just have the language where we say we recommend sure natives yeah without you know because somebody might look at this and want to put concent Tre Cherry in their yard and
be like oh I can't do that I think like really like so encourage the natives I I just thought I mean there was quite a bit listed here and it's interesting draft I
don't you know maybe maybe we wanted to thin out the non-natives I just like like I mean something that we definitely don't want like a nor Maple yeah there's there's a I can't remember
is there yeah do not plant list we definitely I think should have a do not plant like a calorie pair any pair and they name them different things like Cleveland pair and something else they try to fake you out they're all calorie
pair and that should not be planted it's highly invasive um they wouldn't be recommending I'm just saying if you had it definitely do not is there anything on here that they don't do not plant I'm just I know I'm wondering if they have I can't remember if they have a do not plant list oh I
see what you're it just has levels of I mean they have like I mean does suggest the tree though mean that it's native and the reason I asked that recommended as I yep
so as I as I've worked with multiple Landscape Architects and arbas for this facilities projects there's always the topic that comes up sometimes that if you have a mature non-native that isn't destructive it's
better keeping that in sure than taking it down and so I think most folks automatically go to nonnative bed right and that's not always necessary true so I think I love
it I think updating is great but I also think providing some practicality in the sense of non-native doesn't necessarily mean it's 100% bad it just might not be the preferred tree or what not to go into yeah it say some acceptable non-native species so that's
how they put yeah I thought it was kind of nicely and that's why I think calling it suggested trees as opposed to only plant natives here's a list of suggested trees you probably can't no no I I can read what's here but what I'm telling you that's been telegraphed to the public before in Fair Haven has been
it's either native or non-native mhm right and always go native right and when you take that and you talk to the professionals about it that's not always that black and white so yes yeah I like the language acceptable
non-natives like so uh going forward I mean if everybody's integ we don't have to do it now we don't have to make any changes I mean we still want to keep this out and we do use this we're going to want to modify it somewhat yeah um
but long story short that's the answer we can we we have a lot of sway here that we can I just know it is very good very good simple straightforward them too like with the definition of like where they would be
right which is very helpful yeah yeah sounds good all right that's all I got for that um going to move on to our Council up um you yes fantastic um I have told
that there's some questions on the landscaping for new facilities projects so what I've sent to Christie is uh a couple of the slides specific so if you guys are on board I'll go over to that TV kind of talk through where we're at
it's been two years it take since all of the work was done so I'll kind of level set on how we arrived where we are what the next steps are and F any questions that you might have that's sound good can we see it from here when is is the DPW going to start
it's going to be the spring planting started uh they planted site work has started but planting has to happen in Spring do the do def fence First Fence is last I I'll give some updat yeah there's
been some there's been some developments in a really positive way okay um so I'll start at DBW you go to the second slide and we can post this on the website right this is all so this is uh the
DPW see that land yeah just the DBW lands got being plan this is Allen Street right this is Third Street this is Maple Avenue um the plan on Allen and
third has already been approved um we coordinated with shade tree back when we did this environmental open houses and then we followed a two-tier professional process so we always ensured that whoever the
lcap architect of the design team always had to coordinate with our CTE to make sure that there was always checks and balances with both Fair Haven just to go back to like the process from way back when um
here this has not been approved yet originally there were four trees going in here so this guy that guy that guy and that guy those are the only four that were supposed to go in because when the original assessment of Maple Avenue
was done um there was a significant item Miss which was there was probably 13 trees in here that when they were planted however many years ago they had a a strap around them and that's called and basically what happens is if you
don't take the strap off the tree tree starts to grow around it and it creates a hazard that if there's a strong enough wi the tree snaps um so we've been spending a tremendous amount of time engaging with the residents on Maple Avenue uh we've worked with two Landscape Architects certified tree
expert um the goal is to get to some type of resolution um with installing um planting here to help Ensure that you know over the next 3 to seven years that it buffer grows uh the reason it's taking so long just to kind of put it in
perspective uh the original quote for this Landscaping this landscaping and what was going here was 66 Grand and then this original uh the original one that went in here the first quote we got back was 98 Grand just for that side so
we just just I'm giving you the data point the why like we're like H okay we've gotten it down to 48,000 right but this all of this was 66 and now they're just saying you know this side was 48 so long story short that's what's caused some of the delay
is that one we want to make sure we're fiscally responsible two we want to try and ensure that we're getting it and and planting it we won't be able to plant what was there there were trees that were 40 50 feet tall um but at least given it the greatest chance to grow into a landscaping
buffer um just to give an update as of today oh two things I'll highlight see these two little systems on either end these are the storm water systems all the water off of the building goes into these so it's a net zero impact and that's a significant improvement from
the FL where's that drain to uh I have to I think is that were you going to put a cat Bas in that front like on Third Street on that side well we'll get there we'll get there um I forget what these are I'm sure they're recharging naturally back in I don't know what
Atlas calculation they did it to if they did it to the atlas 100 it charges at a at an inch and a half per hour um but I'd have to go back and look at the actual but the whole goal was to make sure that we were um you know only
enhancing the storm water infrastructure we rid a ton of work here to enhance the storm water infrastructure um getting to this side this fence right where's the fence line This fence line This fence used to be
40t to the left here so we actually sh drunk the site primary reason to do that was because it's an industrial site a residential area so if I can make it smaller that reduces the size of an industrial area and a residential area um and so what we did here was we
enhanced uh what the burm and and what was going in here put put trees here uh this I won't call it a catch Basin um this actually collects whatever runoff comes from here so you can see the topography so whatever whatever runoff
comes here right this is all engine oil right gas right pick whatever particles and stuff you want this is actually meant to catch the pollution before it feeds and whatnot so this is a whole system designed to do that so it's dispersing it into that area and not let
it's not dispersed it it holds it it it I it holds all of the runoff from here and ensures that none of the pollutants from the parking lot that it captures then get into the system but okay then you have to clean it out oh yeah yeah I
mean what if you just ran it right now where's it going well so the the street no it goes into the it goes into the the infrastructure out here but you have to you can't just let all the pollutants from the parking lot go into the I know but I'm just saying like right now are they running out into that there's a big
that's just a big open place I mean I don't know you're not doing any that's just going to be a green space right on Third Street yeah this is all this is not this is all we're enhancing the Green Space here right I mean it just I I don't know I thought you could just
run it in and just disperse it in a rain garden and let it no we what are you doing now just that's what it's designed for it's designed to catch that so whatever I I don't I can't speak to Ian we've been violating storm water with this up until this time no
this is this has been there that's been there and they clean it out they went this was this was considered an area of concern and we just went through and cleaned it out and everything I got the clean B out on there it's been there from day one yeah we're not violating anything if anything we're being proactive to ensure that any pollutant
from the parking lot aren't going directly either into our green infrastructure and that's why this is all Stone here right or while it's going into the actual ning that's what I would be mostly concerned yeah 100% um so you know we're where we're at now is um all
the site work here uh will be done tomorrow meaning planting no no no site work right we're getting ready for the planting so there's a there's a there's a further bump out here all new curb and then the fence gets pushed back it's 12
ft from the curb uh to create a further Landscaping buffer and then Friday into Saturday they're going to finish all the site work here in preparation for planting so once the site work is done here and here All That Remains is install the new fence and then install
the landscaping and then the DW is done so what what are all those trees I mean I know we there were they had that oak tree that's very like a column Oak I can't it's a pillar oak or something on
there and there's a whole matric that the CTE and the Landscape Architects put to did they change it from what we negative no no no they they they they didn't change any of that from here and everything going here matches what was agreed to to go in here from a from a
native perspective um so none of that changed right so the planting types the intensity the maintain of it is consistent for all three sides is there a sprinkler system netive no was water in yeah it's a maintainable thing I mean
there's a year well there's a year there's a year contract baked into it that Paul has to ensure that everything lasts for a year and if it does need to replace it and the reason we picked a year not only is it standard but the reason I highlighted is is that the year provides enough time to ensure a proper
transition from maintenance right from when you plant it to when it becomes ours to maintain fully um it's going to look great oh so they they're going to water it for a year that's what's whether they do or don't but what the contract falls out
for right is that for the first year right there's a certain type of I'll call it warranty it's not the right word for it but that's how I understand it um that goes into it I mean it would be really great if somebody was watching that closely because otherwise
I mean they may replace them but then you've lost a year growth you've lost it you know totally agree right and and what you're getting into is the operational management right which I can't speak to right what I can tell you is that from an operational management perspective DPW right now is going through an old hole um because as this
site officially comes online as the new organizational structure comes into place the management from a DPW perspective does have to be overhauled to take a take out this site obviously the other site there significant changes that happened to the recycling center so
um this is PD uh if you can just move back a little bit which way uh zoom out sorry oh okay move back that made no sense I apologize it's been a long day been up since um so here um all the consistent
type of plantings right the beautiful thing about planning for all of this at the same time is that we kept maintenance planting intensity planting types all consistent um there is a rain Garden here uh that we are putting in this is a
bio uh retention system and then underneath the parking lot is a storm water management system the goal was that all of the water from from the PD site and the the parking lot that's going in was all captured this I know is
to the atlas 100 so this this reach charges in at an inch and a quar per hour back into um and then you can see all the Landscaping here here tremendous amount of landscaping so here's the New Path
right that goes parallel uh from F to the community center um you'll see new Street trees up here because we're extending Fisk up here and then the the biggest item over here is that this
property's fence had a 17t encroachment on this part and an 11t encroachment so as we redo the parking lot we're going to redo here and put all the proper Landscaping back and everything um to whose parking lot is that the church or ours the it's it is the church's but
we've uh established a partner partnership with them and we have an easement on here we're going to maintain the parking lot um as a means of putting it there that's all new Paving because that's that's Stone right now right it is the D
doesn't um doesn't there is no material difference per the D between the packed uh asphalt and the pack Stone right now so and that's for our storm water management professional Rick leer um the
other thing too that's very important is that this entire property from the storm order management perspective they treat it as impervious and it's running everywhere everything everything from this parking lot every single rain drop
that hits this pavement goes into this catch Basin we catch it all every single rain drop that hits the roofs And this parking lot go into the storm water system here um or the rain volume so we you can't make water disappear without
having the proper storm water system but you can um you can reduce it on the site and preventing it from going into the infrastructure uh this is actually fun fact for you guys this is one of the uh oldest pieces of storm infrastructure in Fair Haven is in this neighborhood um
and is it still working still working but now everything is defined differently based on the storms and everything like a 100e storm as of today the DB has updated all the storm values right they're current based on what the current volumes are now so this could be this is designed for an atlas 100 maybe
70 years ago this was designed for 100 but that was 70 years ago and this is as of today there's different volumes everything so where's the current police station on that map here yeah or take I'm not drawing scale so both sites um you know we've
exhausted every I mean the the process to get where we are was exhaustive um we're increasing uh storm water management ensuring the proper plantings go in um obviously reducing the set of DPW so it's super
exciting so that's everything I got what about behind so that's so that will be that will have to be a phase two effort this is all Green Acre property which has a whole other Dynamic um the interesting thing though so fun fact just why we're
on storm water and Landscaping um is what the professionals have told us is that if you want to have the greatest impact of storm water management because for U the Natural Area is down here right somewhere and the water flows from the Natural Area this way and they say you want to put a
a storm water system here and you can actually make water disappear which means you reduce and get on system so we've been able to get a ton of evidence that's going to support what we do at Community Center Fields but that we won't start planning that until this is compl just hopefully in three
months April 1 get PDM she going to yell I just said that do you have a DAT for demolition uh we have date that we're targeting to take the building down um we're coordinating
right now that probably I'll confirm it tomorrow middle of April um we just got to make sure we kind have the utility shop because there's natural gas electric Verizon all there
soin good thank you appreciate yeah no worries didn't we have a resident on Maple many years ago that was concerned about runoff into their into their backyard and we said let's not do anything to Hasty because we're waiting on all of this yeah so that's going to
be phase two because I know that they were yeah they were we planted trees behind their house yeah we did I don't know we made good on our I don't know if anything ever did was it effective we ever follow up on that well they're
brand new trees can you uh can you find out the house for me yeah do you mind cuz are you talking Maple Avenue next to PD or Maple Avenue next to DPW yeah yeah it's right behind the playground behind the center yeah those
the basketball court they took trees down and they said they were going to repl them and they never did okay so it's not okay yeah said just send me the house number because yeah remember you remember the house number Christie he's an environmental commission Gary yeah I because you got
fourth Water Creek that runs under there the and then the the speculation is remember the tennis courts speculation is that ran under that's why the tennis courts always used to crack yeah so those are now that's gone now what's going to go there remains to be seen so that that helps absorb storm water and
then both sites are having significant improvements so I'm very curious to see what's the what's the uh historical and then hopefully we can measure right and see what happens so if you don't find we were wanted to make the the water story The Town water story
an action for St Jersey and it's like just trying to figure out where the water's all coming from and the flow patterns yes it's interesting because there a lot of streams and underground it is and then when you put basements in and how that changes it and then the other thing is the water tables Rising right so like how do like if we had if
we had a 200e storm fairen would be underwater Sandy was 100 storm yeah the whole town that's what that's what that's what the professionals tell me that you know is it definitive no idea but our professionals haven't been they've been very accurate with everything so I trust
them cool thank you good thank you councilman been a long SL almost there gota be all right new proposed agenda items
anything anyone any I think you should just put the memorial tree y thing on here as an official thing I was thinking about that like while we're talking I think what would be super helpful is as we it's always
easier to respond to something that's created than ask somebody to create it right and so as we think of locations around town I start thinking of areas that maybe have mate in town to Residents past former current future right so Fair Haven Fields Community
Center Fields maybe the police department and fish Chapel right given what that site represents in town and so as we talk through the idea start thinking through areas in town that have meaning or that could have meaning um
and that might be a good way to funnel down a short list of not only where we plant or where we can plant or maybe we want to focus so maybe Community Center North has a tremendous amount of value to somebody we always talked about trying to get trees on the path right
cuz it gets so hot there you can't put them on the fields but you put them there so maybe that's way you pair that hey this means a lot to me I want to put five trees can I put it on the path or something like that so I just offer that as you it's a good idea yeah so we want to make that in like Tree locations or
something like that should that be where we keep adding people a list discussing you know good better you know ideas of where to plant them just keep running list sure Memorial Tree locations yeah CU that'll be the first question
right the council is going to say okay love the idea where do you want to put them here why do you want to put them here okay next question is how do you fund it right we have an idea and then the third question will be is plaques and everything will be who's going to maintain it over time because there's
plenty of plaques that have been put out and they're cracking and whatnot right so right it's just a practicality you got to take into account I think um just spitballing here on that like if we decide we kind of go with a recommendation um I I work I work with
Beacon a lot on Memorial plaques for like things that are going out like on Sandy Hook like even better horrible environment yeah but um you know like they're expensive you know but if we could say
that or you know whatever they would recommend this this would last for an estimate of 10 years or something like that kind of put a Lifetime on it um and maybe they guarantee in for longer but I think that needs to be a relationship
with the vendor totally with us and but we should direct that and kind of put parameters around it which I think is great right and and there's a philosophy I I always try to articulate right The Innovation premium here is zero we're not the first time to do a memorial bi
program we not the first time to put up plaques and wear about maintenance so the more that we can rely on other that have done it learned from their mistakes and then when we bring the kis to plan together it just makes it that much of a it's not an argument that much more of a stronger case of yeah we can do this
it's sustainable the maintenance is going to be minimal etc etc so right so I think the biggest I mean correct me if I'm wrong like the biggest barrier to this would be um like like who's taking care of it correct and and um and then kind of like
the I thought that the plaque would be a thing you know given that if you want to put a sign in your yard you're supposed to put like get permission or something like that so as long as we kind of Define that yeah um and that's acceptable then I I mean
the cost of the town would be right um but if there's some barrier that I'm missing like I mean I love the add-ons that Bonnie said right if they come with Gator bags yeah they come with Gator bags and the tree and the deer protection right you yeah you know then your watering goes from carrying four
jugs every day for 3 months straight to maybe you fill it up once a week I don't know I I don't know I'm making it up right right and that could be something that's like required in in this type of thing if it's going on public property like it's a require solution here so giving you
food for thought right and then the I don't know the right term bonnie the thing that goes around the trunk it's just a trunk wrap it's an anti- deer rub there you go it's how are you going to ensure that you're you know the deer aren't going to destroy the investment well I'm glad you asked you know as part
of this this automatically comes with it and it's been proven to you know allow the tree to grow without deer you know destroying it yeah I love it I think it's a great idea if I want to help you you know thanks Chris sorry I keep intered
not all can I I just have one thing that um that brought up at the shore area Shad Tre which actually I also want to put in the next meeting is um May 13th if anybody wants to
go put it on the counter they have it's interesting they have it in the meeting before the council meeting from six and S so the mayor comes in early and talks to everybody about everything going on so it's kind of nice um they brought up this it's called the uh Good Neighbor planting program The
Dot um Department of Transportation does this and it's allows the department through the office of landscape architecture to address certain issues for residents on says State highways but I think it's it's um County Roads um and
two towns have gotten free trees planted down their roads and the road I was thinking about was Ridge Road and I was kind of thinking if we talk to little silver because all those trees came down in front of um rvr if you look I was walking the dog down the the amount of
trees that we have lost in front of um Fair hidden Fields there all these where trees were where trees were all down in front of the um Natural Area we've been discussing if you walk down that path on Bridge Road the sound of the cars is so
incredible and they could use Evergreens there and so right at that point is where the wire switches over to our side of the street so maybe plant some Evergreens there I don't know just I I reached out to this woman from De I just
said we're interested I didn't hear back and I just didn't know if it was something that we might want to pursue trying to get so the dot is planting the and they have money and youy huh awesome yeah so I okay so I
could so call her again keep going I just wasn't sure yeah it sounds like and I thought if we coordinated with little silver that even better tells me that rbr and they cut them all down count did that 100% my only feedback
would be focus on our town with where we can go I understand that it was devastating for them to come down on that but that was that was really the utility company and it was in the juristiction a little silver right so I hear what you're saying I love the partnership I'm all for it right the
more we can coordinate the better but I definitely think if there's areas I would be good going there if we've exhausted where we want trees planted in some of our areas first I'm not sure what kind of trees I said they natives I mean I don't know what they plant but we
could definitely use some trees sure go get them yeah and and also um I had gotten Chris's here about the it drives me crazy the new sprinkler little station right by the tennis Sports in
fields that has you know chain Ling fence around it and all the paths go right into it because everybody wants to look at that when they're walking around I know some behind the tennis courts on the fairing Fields right by the church on the path there's a big metal box big
fenced in metal box that was put there what last year yep pretty sure that was cuz that was getting destroyed and is that the irrigation system yeah but they but they just they redid the path SOC that so it goes right I said to Dave Carl I go I ran into him over there with
my dog and he and I said could we plant some trees and he said there's so many water lines going in that so I said okay that you know that makes sense but then I said could we could you redo the path so they don't lead right to it and kind of
went wasn't my decision okay well send send a note to me and just say hey when we when when when the DPW lays the new um stone dust right right they're going to do no stone dust right main spring Comes live you wake the house up right
so they do that every year every spring yeah I don't know if they do it every spring but just send me the note and and then I can get it over to the engineering DBW committee and just say hey you know here's a practicality factor and as you guys wake up the town because it's now coming alive in Spring
is it possible just to change us a little bit and put some new stone dust and go from there if you have a picture send me a picture I have a picture I fig I know you do that's a rhetorical question okay I still want to plant trees at
Cedar and thir that baseball field that corner is so bald and hot and awful Cedar and third the path next to that goes to the playground the corner on the corner by the by the stands like something to shave even like even by um
where the tennis courts used to be right so like you right outside the community center so there's an a name there's going be picnic tables right you have a clear of the field it's phenomenal um I should take pictures so I could show folks how awesome it is going to be able to sit at the back of the community
center and watch your kids at the baseball field or at the playground imagine having a couple trees there and they get big like there's some beautiful trees out there that we can do so yeah well that's what we I mean we're all for it I mean fin talking about we can we
can do that at any time we just got to get you know your approval Council approval because we w we were talking about the H home plate on third right that's the one you're that area there that corner yeah that corner just and then also kind of close to
where you were talking um the path that now goes between the tennis courts and uh basketball or well basketball court sorry basketball court and the baseball field that just a nice tree line along
that path somewhere so like you're not blazing in the sun while you're watching 100% so can we the tree program if you have 80 and 15 are like I don't need it on my property go put it somewhere else we can you just Identify two areas right Community Center Fields Fair Heaven
Fields a row here a row here there's no cost they come out and you guys have signed off that this is an area that needs it so why not yeah okay all right I'm 100% in I will move as quickly as you get me the information I'll shoot
you over an email little propal yeah I love it I think it's a great idea good done attack so I don't get an attack we'll put that on the agenda next month to just to revisit just but we'll get it moving there so yes where are we going to plant a tree on ARB day we're going
to plant trees have to find some trees and plant them well yeah and I mentioned it to you over the weekend um it's not going to coincide with our tree buying program you have to uh have to chase down a
vendor I mention that one goty not well that but um maybe what about all the acorns Mark has Mark showed me in third sheet Trail all the trees that I've grown oh the little trees why not why not use those we have homegrown trees
from the kids that have picked it well they're tot totally get it we put F but think about how cool that is you go back to the kids at sickles hey guys no you remember you did this yeah look at what you did right and then you gar it and even if you lose 50% of them the impact
it's going to have from an educational perspective to measure how cool is that man if my kid picked an acorn gave it to Marque ruid and then you planted it and then you went back and said look at this I'd be like holy smokes Batman that's awesome all right so where are you thinking about them but you just told me
two you already told me two yeah I mean I I would prefer something a little more substantial along that that pathway there the only problem be fun to have one or two of those around be armor day that's armor Day project I know but you don't want to
eorn next to the basketball court that oh no no but like that wouldn't be a good place I planting some of those all right yeah planting them well we were supposed to give them to the kids that graduated but so many of them died the acorns not the
kids wor I feel like we would have heard about that yeah yes we didn't water them poor children um the acorns not the kids yeah there a little bit um any public I'll open up for
public comment if that's all we have right now we have any Susan we do have Susan all right what might be good for um getting out some education if you had the beginnings of an educational program
love where you live day and having a table and start your education would be the best day you have a yep oh yeah plan on that is how many different trees are in the Park yeah they
probably yeah you you are the exact thing right you the inventory I could get you that answer you know what um speaking of that you know what would be cool is to can't we compute a carbon capture is that that
would be such a cool statistic to have on the park like how much carbon and like some statistics about 22 pounds per day and have a I mean that's a good idea I was thinking more in terms of keeping
the K occupied so if you have a number of different species of trees you can tack a label one for the day and that be part of your SC find tree or
find what else is in there there's service there's a Grove of Serviceberry there's a couple Groves of Holly there's some hickories there a bunch of Red Oaks and white Sal because as the kids are running from three to three they may be noticing that they're
different yeah and that could be part of an education program also but I was thinking more of the scavenger hun especially that's a good idea got to get the kids active and they're going to run through the park high in the tree yep
absolutely that's it Builders generally used to hand out give out um like mini tape members like used to have all the house tours kitchen corers and and that you would always be in the goodie bag like little tape
measure so you can get somee from them likees they can go find the biggest one widest one diameter at bre but are they even 4 and2 ft tall it doesn't matter could let them figure it out they'll figure it
out all right good stuff any other public comments public all right anybody out there in Zoom l no there's no one on Zoom Chris is there all
right I think it's time to adour this meeting motion to adour meeting adjourns thank you thanks everybody Chris huh they all have beards wait wa wait I have the I hope I it I have the
John I it so you can study it and learn your script so I can get just like you did with old back in just so we can kind of get