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Okay. Roll call for Steve. Leah Vigani, Neil Blecker, Peter Datti, Mike D'Angelo >> here, >> Chris Larson >> here, >> Chris McCabe, Rebecca Cle >> here,
>> Bill Sullivan, Bonnie Tidia >> here. >> Also present is Burough Secretary Christy Larson. You have a quorum. Okay, >> please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Anyone have any questions regarding the prior meeting minutes or comments or
concerns? Not about the minutes, but you know that the the tree the elma is going to be planted in fair fields, but I thought that was an emailation at the council meeting. >> We got to approve the first
jump right. Um, no questions, comments. A motion approve. >> Yes. You don't have >> Oh, you weren't there. Okay, fair enough. I'll second. >> All right, minutes approved.
All right, project updates. Bill Brash lucky enough to join us one more time, maybe a few more times, who knows? um for our CFMP discussion. We have our final draft
and then um Bill did update with comments from provided by Bonnie and um Bill I know in the email you you did have a couple questions so I guess we can maybe go over those. Yeah, there's one one question I wasn't too sure about
because in the August meeting we discussed um a list of the overarching concerns they wanted the plan to meet. It didn't really fit into the state's
blueprint where they talk about elements and objectives and then action items to support those objectives and elements. Okay. So, um, but I wanted to include them. So, I kind of called them milestones. >> Okay.
>> They're on page 22, I think. I recall on that. Yes. Milestones. And And then the last one, it called to remove them. >> Are you talking about these 20 or 22?
>> I have 22 on mine. It might be. I think it I think when I added all that stuff it pushed it. >> It may have. >> You're talking about the fair hate the burial milestones. >> Yes. >> So I put that in. >> Yes. >> And my feeling was they were important
things that were kind of the backbone of why we want to save our trees. >> Right. >> But their milestones have to be measurable, right? So I don't know that these are measurable. >> And so I was thinking that they should not be labeled as milestones. They should maybe just be like I changed that
sentence. >> Okay. So you didn't want to remove all of just the just the term milestone. >> I mean isn't that true that a milestone needs to be measurable? >> Okay. I think so. >> Um like improve air quality like I mean that is something that is a goal for
fair. We want to you know those are all good things trees do. I mean that's why I changed it to the benefits the trees provide and these are the benefits. They're not necessarily milestones that we're aiming for. >> Okay, >> maybe it wasn't.
>> I did a lot better. >> Everything that your more inspirational goals >> just kind of look like why it's import. >> So the terminology the the title for the placement of >> I mean so then you go below with the
plan imitation you have elements the training and education element and then you have objectives and action items so we do have it right below I just don't think those qualities the benefits of trees should be called milestones >> I agree because like improving air
quality that's not a milestone that's an ongoing goal >> right >> right >> I don't think the shade tree commission is going to take that ability >> no I don't think so either at least five years But um >> trust you.
>> I gotta think what to call these because every all the the elements and the objectives and the action items uh everything that they support all these uh however 10 of these and
>> statement. >> Yeah. Well, that's >> what I I thought um we it's almost like endeavors or something like that. >> Um
>> like a holistic approach. >> Christie, are you able to pull that email up on the screen? the one that he wrote today. >> Yeah, I guess version document or the email. >> Um, well, yeah, the the email has the
questions in it, >> but the docu I think the document because I I'll I can refer to the questions, but Bill knows the questions they came from. But can we put the document up there? Yeah, >> I mean Bill what I was I I took that top fair the borrow fair haven through the
CFMP is looking to produce a plan to manage the forest resource to ensure that fair haven residents continue to enjoy the many benefits that trees provide including and then I thought you'd list all these benefits the trees provide. >> Okay. >> Now whether that leads into planation
implementation I'm I'm not sure. >> I think it does but >> I'd like this I'd like to be able to provide a connection if we can do because These are I think of the only benefits that Yeah, that's exactly it. >> Yeah.
>> And when I saw the edit that said remove this, I thought you meant to remove all >> I remove milestones. I didn't I was I didn't want to slash things. I just was kind of putting in my suggestions. >> Sure. And I I think it's important because
this is what you're looking to accomplish kind of at least at least affect these things positively as a result of the problem. Um and I'm not sure on how we capture that. >> The goals would have to be measured as well.
>> Yeah, they're not goals, objectives or action items. And I don't know that we can say they're elements. So um what do we call things to strive for? principles, guiding principles. >> Principles, >> that's what we're searching for. I think
principles >> is I mean >> principles. I think that's a good one. Well, this is the principles that were that's guiding the plan. >> Yeah, you could say that >> these are Yeah. the principles that will guide our plan. I mean, what would I
say? is looking to produce a plan to manage the forest. We should ensure to many >> why I mean the statement right before that is it's benefits. It's um
>> that's a different thing >> because this is >> this just came in tonight. So, we're we're working with So, the comments that Bonnie comments that Bonnie made that were submitted
>> yesterday, >> right? But Christie, you sent them out, did you? >> Yeah, it was it was last week, I think, that I received >> and then >> but I I completed them today. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Thought it was last week. >> So,
Oh, your comments. Where did we your comments are? This is so this your comments that came in you you submitted yesterday. >> Yeah, I redlined >> the deadline. >> So they're in here now. So this is the most recent. >> But you can't tell it's not red anymore.
So you can't tell it's me doing it. >> Okay. >> And so >> it changed to green. >> This was the one I was I was really >> unsure of. That's why I left it as a >> I just again just um
>> I mean it's a milestone many benefits that tree pro trees provide >> do you >> and get rid of that's the title >> get rid of the title >> that's what I was kind of thinking >> and then here you go you have
>> because it's technically under the community engagement and well-being section right like It is it is under community engagement. >> Yeah. So kind of is already like has its own >> Okay.
>> We're I'm going to add the first statement with a co a colon. I'm taking the title off and then the bullet points stay. >> But do you want to go back because I added a bunch of stuff in that community wellbeing thing. So it's totally different. >> They're all there. So I I know I I feel
kind of like like I didn't mean for it to just go in and not to discuss it ahead of time. So I don't know discuss what you want. >> What did you teach? >> Much space between
>> on the previous page 21. Okay. Uh if you look at that last paragraph, that's where she that's where Bonnie handed the fair has an outstanding volunteer network. >> Bill, my my suggestion was to take all
of that out and instead put Yeah. the community fair Haven has an outstanding Yeah. Put take out the No, no, no. Leave that in. But um the undergone significant changes since the completion of the last that's not relevant anymore. That was the last plan,
>> right? So the first paragraph 10 years old, >> Mike, that's when you did the last plan, right? You weren't >> right. But you were on that, right? And there's >> Yeah. >> So the first paragraph goes >> Well, I mean, don't you think that was relevant back then? And it's I mean,
>> we haven't undergone since seclusion >> 10 years. >> Okay. So, >> all right. Well, but I think that was >> referring >> 1920 >> that was >> But see, there was not a restructuring in a three-year hiatus when the bureau
appointed an entirely new commission. That's not true. I mean, you're correct. >> That happened the last time. >> Yeah, correct. >> Right, Mike? >> That was before me. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. So, that's gone. >> Dead wood. So
>> that first paragraph >> first paragraph doesn't consistent then >> yeah that's why I took it um I don't actually think that the second paragraph any
>> what this CMFP >> hey Chris do you think anybody's looked at this >> no no >> no so see I mean none of it's true I'm sorry but it's just not It's like um so this is community engagement and well-being. That's why I started that
fourth paragraph. >> So you want to take the first two paragraph fair that was community engagement to me and well-being. Got >> um >> because I don't think anything above the existence has been >> Yeah, I guess they're not. I mean, do
you think that has any change >> in terms of both municipal personnel and our own membership >> or bill? Is it important to put it in there to show that we haven't been using it? We need to start using it. >> Yeah. No, it's your plan. >> Give it a sense of, you know, time
frame, right? That we're this is this is an updated plan and hasn't been updated in uh >> a lot >> over five years, right? So the last one was 2014 to 2019. That was the five-year plan.
>> So read the part read the first the community of fair given and see if you think that is okay for this section because that's the thing I read. If you go up this part, >> you want to read it out loud first cuz I can't see. >> Yeah, I'm sorry.
Let's see. >> I can read it. I got to read it. Can you read it? >> Sure. I Oh, especially now. >> Community fair haven has an outstanding volunteer network. Cleanup days in the natural air on the third street trail.
>> Austral become popular events where residents help maintain our wooded areas by cleaning brush, pulling invasives, and planting trees. DPW assistance in clearing debris piles and chainsaw work is critical in these endeavors. DBW's
good working relationship with one of the town's three contractors resulting three oh tree contractors results in regular drop offs wood chips that are used to maintain our natural area tree trail
system. The STC promotes these volunteer opportunities on Instagram and in the weekly burrow buzz online newsletter. We also worked with Robson Fair Haven High School to help students satisfy volunteer hour requirements. By invol by
involving residents and students, we strive to encourage appreciation of our natural areas and their trees and what is necessary to protect them. >> It keeps going. >> Okay. >> I was being so
can I just say that I was reading the instructions. I had all these documents out and I was trying to put in they wanted to show working relationship right so I was trying to >> to that's what I was >> I think I think you did >> this is very
>> I read this I mean you're trying to problem areas that need trees but to present an issue because they're >> okay. So the second paragraph >> do you think anybody have problem with the second paragraph
>> for the past four years? No shade tree commissioners regularly send council meetings off the way on related issues. >> You should you could change it to shade tree commissioner. You don't want to delete. >> Well,
so that's a new paragraph where it says st commissioners. >> Yeah. So it says raise. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So Okay. If the thing that I I just wasn't um resulting in the landscaping project at the newly renovated police department, DPW headquarters being
planted with val native trees is that um I I think that a lot of speaking about the native trees and importance um you know getting Sherry involved with that did result in it's all native trees over there. It's wonderful. It really
>> great. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, that that definitely was And I wanted to include the LTE that we use for I was trying to include all the things that we were >> supposed to work from. >> So forgive forgive my ignorance here but
this is all talking about what we have done. How is this a plan? No, this is the engagement. They just it's a section here called and it's talking about like for example when you go back to the old one um or line or the instructions it just
says how it asks all these questions about your your community and how you engage in the community. So that's >> right but then the but we say like how we will >> so describe past present and desired future community involvement and urban theire future. So yeah, this I was just
reading what we're supposed to put and trying to fill it in. >> Yeah. And then I kind of talk about where we need trees like are they you know there spaces that don't >> I didn't write that last paragraph that was
>> the master some well that's >> yeah that's fairly that's you put that in or >> yeah no it's based on a discussion >> bring it in Right. >> Are you talking the tool piece? >> No, the the the other paragraph. >> The last paragraph.
>> The last paragraph is Bill tying it in that we don't have any mention of forestry really in our master plan. And >> yeah, >> now we can implement. Now we have an updated plan. We can >> suggest it be used as a reference.
>> Yep. >> So go back to um what Bill would do. I just want to show that other part that I put in Debbie Place Chrissy that that um we were talking about that was repeated the um >> you had the same >> where is that
>> okay that is >> the beginning >> yeah kind of near the beginning >> yeah about the chairman and >> um over here >> yeah but I started thinking that maybe I
didn't do that when >> the last paragraph >> page four. >> Yeah, the last paragraph on page four is what you provided. >> And I wanted you to take out everything else because it's already
repeated under the plan management. >> Okay. >> So, right. I mean, isn't it the exact same thing? >> Do you have all these? >> Mhm. >> Oh my goodness. apology is he
>> well that's just so those hours >> so page four although it's um so the community overview was the same
as >> yes I know >> the community part program administration so community over book if you want to read the news section. >> And Bill, did you take out the um
>> I did not take out the administration. >> Well, it should only be one place, >> right? That this one certainly could come out of community overview if it's not. >> Yeah. The beginning the beginning because it's under the plan administration. That whole section, the same language is twice in this report.
>> Okay. So for this we can take it out of community overview from overview down to the burough bear haven lead. >> So that's where it should be the community forestry program administration. That's okay. But then when you go back to community overview go back to that um on page four or
somewhere around there. >> See the fair is see it says the same thing as that was in there. So then I added um after the burough attorney go up a little bit. >> Yeah. The last paragraph. >> Nope. Nope. Back the other way. That
way. Okay. The burough fair is blessed. That I just added as the community overview. You want to look at that. >> I just want to get this part right. Community overview in this. You want the first one, two, three, four paragraphs
removed because it's in Where is it? Where else is it found? >> It's in the plan implementation. It's the exact same thing. >> Do we know what page that is? >> That's page 16 or >> Okay,
this under your shoulder. >> You can read. Yeah. >> Okay. It's on It's now on page 17. >> Yeah. Okay. So, the first paragraph is exactly the same as the as
lack of it's true. Sorry. It might be worse. We can change it. So much less than that. >> Um, >> okay. We leave it in administration. Take it out of our community over. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Got it.
>> Well, yeah. I was trying to say plans, but I want to say by the person mostly I have a one more question. When a resident resident has a tree problem, okay, um concern for a tree,
it's at risk or uh they want a tree planted or or uh something tree related, how do they contact the burrow and who do they speak to? Do you have a you. Do you guys have like a a form that they fill out if they want a
tree or if they want >> No one's ever called asking for a tree. >> Is that right? >> Yeah. Yeah. I think that that's a that's kind of an interesting thing because I think we should be available to if somebody's interested. Like I just
had a friend who said, "I don't know what to plant here. Can you come over and look at my house?" She needed a little skinny tree. And so I thought, "Well, this is what I'm supposed to do, right?" >> Yeah. say, "Well, you know, thought about that's a good one. That's a bad one." I told her to go over to the police station and look at those skinny
trees of the those hop horn beans. Those would be >> European horn beans. >> I I'm not sure. There's two different kinds of horn beans. Hope it's not European. I'm hoping it's the native one. >> Probably European. But um >> but when Bill when you say somebody
wants to plant a tree somewhere, are you talking about like they want to they they're looking to source a tree? >> No, they're looking for >> maybe they're looking for a tree in front of their house that's in a rightway. >> Okay. >> Where where I know that your rightway is a little bit different in most towns in
that um it's difficult to see where your rightway begins and where it ends. >> Uh because there's not a lot of sidewalk. it's, you know, small lots and and so the trees is it on private property or is on in the rightway >> and um but if somebody called and said
and had it the tree was in the rightway or they were unsure and they say I'm concerned about this tree that's I think in the rightway but it in the front of my house. >> How do they do that? So the call would come to me and I would look in our
inventory to see whether it's plotted, whether it's a tree in our inventory. >> Okay. >> And then I would send that report if it is to Nick Perentki. He's the DPW director and Sher Spiro the LTE. >> Yes. >> We've had quite a few calls of apparently the Shade Tree Commission
used to do this plant trees in the rightway in front of people's houses that are now all either dead or leased or something. So they keep calling wanting us to pay for them to be removed. Um but that's then we we have Sherry assess the the health of the tree.
>> Okay. >> So if somebody >> that's not been a practice like even with this buying program we say you have to plant it out of the right way. So that is definitely on the owner to maintain it. >> Okay. So now you have the MS4 ordinance as well
for removal and replacement, right? You guys have that ordinance. So if somebody wants and they have to obtain a permit for that, correct? If they're going to remove a tree. >> Yes. >> They have to ask if it's okay. That comes to you as well. >> Yeah. They don't have to ask if it's
okay. They just have to fill out a >> fill out a permit to make sure >> removable application for anything larger than 6 in in diameter. >> Right. Then there's a replacement requirement depending on how large the tree. So that that permit is comes into your office. >> Yes. Yes, I processed it with Sher the
Burough LTE. >> Okay. >> She goes on site to review and determine. >> And it goes to you and then it goes to Sharon. >> Yep. She would go in the field, make the determination, and the paperwork would come back to me with her field notes and
I would issue the permit accordingly to the resident. >> Okay. And then the followup to see if they plant the trees that they're required to plant is kind of a bold in our system. >> Actually, they go to code enforcement like they've been going for.
>> Yeah. And they have 30 days when I send the letter to 30 days and if not then they say they say they're old. >> We only have like a small handful of people that haven't replaced that. Yeah.
Many people did it through the B program which is great. >> Okay. I'm going to include that information in administration in part administration what that process is. >> Yeah. >> With the new ordinance the the um enforcement started more with the
replacements because it was more black and white in the ordinance what we were what was supposed to be happening. >> Yeah. Well, it's all new too. People don't realize they're taking a tree down that they're going to have to replace it too. That's all that's new for most tax. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Or if they can't plan on the
property, then they have to write a check. >> So, okay. So, code enforcement is the one that follows up on a replacement. >> Yeah. I do the first letter because I'm the one who issued the permit that dictates what the replacement schedule is and I ask them to send me a picture
and it says if you don't comply within 30 days, it goes to >> Do we do we require them to keep it alive for a year? I mean like how do we Yeah. See that's the thing like you would check. >> I don't even know how you just something in and I would water it and because you didn't care.
>> Yeah. Glass. >> Have you not seen that happen? >> Who want a dead tree on their >> they take it out? Developers. >> I'm just saying they put in a tree. >> But most of these have been right, you know, local residents, >> right? But I'm just saying that there's sometimes
>> developers. Yes. But then eventually someone there, >> right? >> You know, a lot of times too with the since the resident if he or she is planting it on their property, then I'm sure that that they're asking for a one-year warranty from from the nursery
or the landscaper and that's pretty standard. >> Um, so they would be up to them. And I I personally I think if you go through the effort of planting the tree and we're talking about
we we require a a decent sized tree. Not I mean it's not a big tree but it's going to you're going to end up paying four 500 bucks to have something planted in your yard. I mean, if you're if you were that
little intent to like, wouldn't you just pay the couple hundred bucks to to the >> I think it wasn't picking up residence. I was thinking about >> We did just have one that came in and we got a $3,000 donation to the Shu Trust
because he didn't want to replace his teeth. >> Really? >> Is that the one that just came in yesterday? >> No. >> Yeah. You know, a lot of times these >> that's in your >> the builders have to clear trees to build a house and that's when this thing
kicks in as well. Anytime they have to remove trees and a lot of times they'll just say, "Look, I'm I'm not worried about because of the exactly what you're talking about, Bonnie. They don't have to follow up or be worried about anything after the fact. A year later, is it still alive? Do
>> any of that, >> right? >> Right. Right tree and quality of the tree. the old bit. So they just write a check and be done with it, >> right? >> So that's how it's done in free anyway. For the most part, the builders, they they need the permit. They get the
permit to remove x amount of trees. Here's your replacement in trees or money and they just write the check is really what it is. >> Well, the mask one I know if somebody requests a tree, they give it a trade,
>> right? Who? Who's this? Brian Melon. >> Brian Melon. Yeah. I don't do Madison, so I'm not real sure about that. >> The shade tree commission wants the tree >> that wants the burrow. Know if it's fun through the shade tree commission or
through the burrow. But if someone calls a man and requests a tree, a straight tree, they will plant one in their yard. >> Who takes care of >> the barrel? >> The barrel will >> Yeah. A lot of towns I would presume that take care of it. >> A lot of towns do do that.
>> Yes. Freehole township does it. Freehole burrow does it too. What they won't do is plant a tree in in front of a house that they don't that the resident does not want one >> because it's not good. I would think that down the road that presents issues though because I feel a
handful of emails that from people that said, you know, back to Christy's point when the Shade Tree Commission did do that, you know, 20 years goes by and get an email from somebody who says, you know, the Shade Tree Commission planted this tree in my yard
>> and now it's big and it's leaning and it's >> I want to know >> on my house or whatever. So you guys, when are you going to do it? And I I have to write it. >> I wonder if >> no void like I don't know >> because statute of limitations like we will give it to you but we're not
responsible after >> most towns like free old township the trees are planted inside to walk. So it's technically on private property. State won't fund any of those tree planting projects because it's private property. >> But the the township wants the trees
there. They want treeline streets. So they'll pay for the tree, but you have to agree to care for it and you're responsible for it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, >> I think it's also, you know, right tree, right place, right? So if
>> back then a bazillion big trees that >> maybe you would do, maybe we would do better, right? >> Who knows, right? >> But in 20 years, we won't be sitting here, >> right? >> I think that's the language Peter used when he was doing that interior, >> right? I think they >> accept.
>> Yes. But those are all definitely like on their private property. >> Yeah. >> And it's just it's something to consider. I mean, this was Brian saying, "I can't prevent people from getting trees down. We're just not going to fight that battle." He said, "So, if you
want a tree, we'll give you a trade." Like that. That's a way of getting them back planted. I mean, we, you know, talk to Brian and see how it works, how they I don't know how they have so much money. Yeah, >> the name of big copper road.
>> You know, there's plenty of towns that that require um reimbursement if trees are removed out a lot for uh for house construction goes into a big pool and then they use they use that money to plant trees. >> That's what >> it' be interesting to find out from him
how many people do do that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean there be a policy but it's like I mean you do like two a year >> you know people don't b themselves to it or don't know or >> I think they do >> they could come you can come to a shore
area shoot >> I could if I'm saying run >> I may have his number if you want to call send him a text too probably get >> yeah be interesting how many uh >> he's been doing that in manqu for a long
time he's been Yeah. >> Um, >> but every town's different. >> It's been 10 months and we've just had this one one property elect to pay versus replant. >> Okay. >> But it's really not enough time because the ordinance just took effect 10 months
ago. So, and Sherry gives people a year to replant, right? >> So, we really won't see the whole cycle for a while. >> Yeah. True. and and Fair Haven is is unusual in that it is not apparent where the property ends and the rightway begins.
>> There's no there there's, you know, few sidewalks >> and if there is, there's not much space between sidewalk and curb. So, you can't really plant a tree there. >> So, I'm really amazed at how Arbor Pro knew what trees to inventory because
it's not >> just sad. They they did they inventory a lot of >> they um but I'll include this under administration if it's
>> is that okay to read it and is it okay with that description >> since it's brand new? Yeah. >> So I was thinking I the last thing as I say we have a list of priority planting locations. I was thinking that we should
have that as I added that as an objective to have a running list that is the pri like you know so we take the top priority and keep adding to it every year and updating it and so the tools will be priority this year right and you
know and really try to have this done so that we can easily go to it and pick off the top and then figure out how we're going to do it how we're going to work the trees when we're going to plant them all that kind Yeah, I think that's that's one of the
things that that you need to get squared away because there's some maintenance issues that you guys have when it comes to newly planted trees with the water truck and the >> uh the staff person and those issues need to get resolved before you do any kind of large scale planting I think.
>> Right. >> So I I add that as one of the >> I saw that for the year one. Yeah. But that seems to be like that should be one of our top top objectives is to get the watering squared away. I know they keep talking
about getting this better pump. Um they have they were just talking about adding sprinklers with DBW and it's going to cost $20,000 or something. It's like well they just got a truck fixed. They could water all these new trees. >> Yeah. >> They were talking about that council meeting. >> Um and they just need to have
>> Oh yeah. I thought that was a lot. Probably just the town. >> Yeah. >> But um >> I mean Chrissy, I don't know if there's a how DPW works that they have a watering schedule like a formal thing that every this is what we're doing every week or this is a list of properties that we
need. These are the trees we need. I'm just not sure how organized they are about this, but I feel like it needs to be a really well-maintained so we don't miss any trees and leave them hanging out there to >> Yeah. you know, that part of it's got to get worked out before you do any of
those large scale planning, right? Um, you know, whether or not it's a water truck and and you have an account for gator bags to make it easier to do it. >> But newly planted trees, two to two and a half inch caliber per tree requires like 15 gallons a week
of water during the growing season. And then if so depending on how many trees you plant, I mean there's a a fact where you have to say, well, if it's beyond this, we can't handle it. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> Councilman L Barbara said that he was
going to square that away with the tulips. >> He did. >> Did he >> say he was going to circle in and I did meet with Nick last week. Last week? Yeah. last week about it and explained to him what we were planning
to do with the tree grows. So, he's aware of it. But aside from that, yeah, there's no, you know, formal plan or course of operation to uh make sure those trees get watered. >> Yeah. and and it doesn't take much, you know, but it it may take a dedicated
seasonal responsible seasonal kid to do the watering >> um that knows how to, you know, where the trees are that assuming they're not all in one location. A lot of times they get spread out. So, he or she would have a a route, >> right? >> You know, that that they have to follow
uh in the summertime. >> And that's usually how some of the other towns do it. They have a summer hire. >> They have a seasonal person. They have a vehicle with a with a water tank and and a pump. >> The problem with ours is it's gravity driven. This is a day closet is so slow.
>> Great summer job. >> Yeah. Right. >> But it's summer really at the time you want to plant trees. >> No, water. >> You just need to water. So, you know, some towns decide that they want to plant in the fall and they think that it reduces their watering and but the
summers have been so dry and so hot that you almost have to water three-year-old >> trees. >> So, that's the other thing to consider. If you're planting multiple years in a row, and we had the last
three summers we've had, you you you end up watering more than just this year's planted trees to you got to keep last year's planted trees alive, even the year before that. >> And I don't think the two locust trees that we planted over at the community center playground are on any order
schedule. I've gone over and watered them. I've tried to get uh Gary Patterson listed to go out and water them, but I don't think they're on schedule and they're from last year. So, like fish need water. They're that baking out there at the playground. >> It's dry ground is really dry. Yeah,
>> I'm going to talk to I talk to Drew because there's got to be and I mean I know you brought up the water truck and I know it's in the plan but I guess there >> I mean does that make sense to have a course of action in the management plan
because I mean it at this stage game I think it's kind of >> we'd have to really loop in DPW and uh >> I I think there's the language in the plan talks about uh water water truck
staffing and um and a program, >> right? But not like specific things. >> No, that's for you guys to work out. But um to establish that, it gives you, you know, here it is. It's in the plan. We got to we have to get a a watering
program for newly planted trees and um and set a schedule up an area where uh trucks filled, tanks filled, >> what the route is for this year. You know, it's 10 10 trees from this year, it's 15 trees from last year, and here's
the locations. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's it's not logistically it's not bad. I mean, it's kind of like a tree goes in, there needs to be a checklist after it. Like, um, it's planted, deer fencing is put on, protective fencing is put on. It's not
just deer fencing, it's the mowers that go up and they weed whack the trunk, too. Um, you know, they need to it has that protection, and then a water bag. Like, it's like you need to >> Yeah. >> get this. Well, if it's mulch, there shouldn't be any weed whackers uh close to the trunk and then you put deer
protection on it and then you put a, you know, you put a gator back on >> and then checklists are great, >> especially for seasonal employees. This is what you got. I think we're we're getting into very specific courses of action which we can't >> like we're not putting that in the
planet. Then suddenly have to >> address per the plan and get a plan in the future with DBW involved. Something like that. >> But you know the plan identifies where your priority planning locations are. I mean it's athletic fields, it's the
tulips, it's the river road. When you get to that point >> business district. >> Yeah. because that's where the only place you really don't have adequate canopy cover. >> Um, plus the athletic fields at some areas where all the bleachers are, it's really there's nothing. It's hot.
>> Um, >> well, that's why we put like parks and jackets as partner to work with them because we don't have that on the board. Perfect. >> So, >> so I I think those those things are spelled out sufficiently
um in the in the plan towards the end there where it talks about elements, objectives, action items. >> Year one, year two, year three, year four, year five. >> Okay, >> that's pretty well spelled. >> Okay. >> Uh >> any >> So you want just, you know, confirm that
they're in the right order, that you like them. >> Yeah. and that it includes I thought I I think that I try to capture everything that was discussed and laid out for that. >> Can you go to that activity schedule year one that whole um >> yes
>> that is on page >> I mean to me >> page 23 >> that looks like our most important objective is court and CEU training. I I think I thought establish a priority tree planting list maintained by our
secretary. Like isn't isn't that one of our don't we want to try to get this organized and actually organize a planting you know pick the spots then start working on it. I mean I feel like planting should be our number one objective getting a plan. I think we
also talked about the fact that before you can plant the trees, you got to have your maintenance part in there. And that this is not necessarily the, you know, because it's year one. I I kind of made stuff that was easy for you to ease into
the first year and then as you get as you get further along in your plan and feel the confidence because of all the things that you got implemented you you can get more aggressive as you move forward on that. >> Well
>> planting is throughout the whole the whole year too. >> Yeah. So is an objective >> support >> provide adequate watering and tree protection and then the action item would be encourage DBW to purchase a new pump in a truck and establish a watering schedule. Would that
>> Yeah. >> Would that be okay? >> Yeah, absolutely. That's kind of like how it works. >> Is encourage an okay word to use? Encourage them or work with them or >> fund seasonal work. Uh partner with fair to equip and fund
seasonal work. That makes it sound like we're going to be equipping and funding a seasonal worker. >> Okay. >> To me, >> like we're sharing in the >> financial burden of that which we, you know, we'd love to say we
could, but we can't. That's page 25. Is that >> okay? So instruct and >> you know >> encourage and >> to you know I think if we we say partner
with fair and DPW to ensure uh new plantings are being properly watered and maintained >> and that issue would drive the DPW to say
all right listen now you know We have to take this on. So in order to take this on, you know, Nick would have to basically prepare his budget to include adequate water in your foot. >> That would be great. >> Yeah,
>> I think maintenance maybe should be stalled out. Dear protection, mulch, >> right? >> I mean, otherwise and and pruning. I mean, Bill's talk last night talked about the incredible importance of early pruning. Yeah, it's a lot cheaper when you can
just do it from the ground and use print clippers then. >> Sure. >> But our our DPW they I don't know if they know how to properly print them. I don't know. >> It's easy enough really. I just did one
for Point Pleasant and it was an hour. >> Yeah. >> And then we went out into the field and did some practical applications, showed them, you know, what we went and talked about and in in you know two hours you could show them everything that they would normally need to do
>> and last night I filled out a really great diagram of how to properly plant tree which is in the last one they have it in here we don't have it this time but I think it's kind of just not a bad thing whoever's reading this just I
don't think many people know proper I mean every time I listen to somebody it's not that bad I learn something but it was in here really bad bad photograph Bill, is that your priority picture or >> No, not at all. I mean, I can't prove it. Absolutely.
>> This see this was in the last um >> No, >> I just think it's it's a really important thing to and Bill's picture was really good last night. >> You know, if you guys need tree planning specs, too, anytime you're going to do a tree plan, you got any questions about
that, I'm sure Sherry has them as well, okay? But if you need if you need that, >> I've got great specs and details for both end plannings and and deciduous street plans. >> You should put that on the website
>> or we could >> Okay. So, just so Chris, which one I'm trying to locate this is year three the one that you're concerned about? >> Oh, the uh where do we go to to Oh, here partner. Yeah. at the end of year two partner with fair to DPW to equip and
fund the seasonal worker. >> Okay. Um you know I think it should really be partnered with fair DPW to you know ensure um a proper water schedule. Water and maintenance schedule >> establish
>> establish um >> water and maintenance schedule that should include deer mitigation mulch efforts. So um like for example the the police station they don't have any deer protection on all those trees
they just put in I think it's a I think I included you on >> I is there do we need to have a formal um suggestion or whatever from shade tree could they do that because those three there already two that are damaged
already and rather it's just started >> was Sher on that email when you said that >> I didn't feel like I was talking to her directly No. Um, but I could forward it to I could was Drew >> Drew was on it init.
>> So it should be good. But I >> I'm not sure if I was the last. It had to come from the [ __ ] like we approve. >> No, you're right. You No, you do the right thing. But I could forward it to I could follow Drew and Circle Sherry into it and you
know just say this is >> no >> commissioner concerned about the uh newly planted trees. It's it's an oversight on their side. >> Yeah. >> Um no it's a good point. So yeah pass them along for sure.
>> Yeah. Everybody needs your protection. >> Right. Right. Like like the day you planned to shoot as one is they got one of the >> Bill any any shortcomings? >> No. >> No. >> Sounds pretty strong. It's
>> I'll be honest with you. I think it's pretty comprehensive. It's very comprehensive. As a matter of fact, it's very specific uh in terms of what your goals and how you're going to get there are. Um I'll make these changes, get one more shot at it. And you know the thing about
it is if if if there is any comments all right there's a a signature required by the mayor. >> Mhm. >> But if you want I'll forward it to the forest service for them to review it and if it's okay >> we can just add the the page signed by
the mayor and then >> by resolution. >> Yeah. Okay. So you need a resolution >> right? >> Okay. So, I mean, I think >> Do you want me to wait before I send it out until you get the resolution? >> Yes. Yeah. And then >> I think if you want to update it what we
discussed tonight and then put out the final and really I mean because it really has to be but what is the date again, Christie? >> It's due December. >> December. >> That is not a hard date. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. Rolling.
Let's make it a hard date so we can >> close this up. We need to move on. >> As far as you guys are concerned, it's >> hard. Okay. >> They all read through it and then they discuss it at a council meeting. >> Sure. They read through it. >> I know. >> It will go in the council packet and
this has a resolution. >> I mean, it's up to you. Like I mean this is just for review or you're not asking them for >> No, no, I can highlight that in a memo. No comments. This is done. Um, >> you know, the mayor of the council is
going to pick up the phone and speak to you and say, "How are you guys with this thing? Is everything okay?" I I envision that's usually what happens is they pick up >> and if only it were that simple. Yeah. But um No, I think if we could When do you think you could have a >> I'll have it done tomorrow. >> Okay. And then if you
>> I'll forward and we can >> Yeah. Send it over to Christie and then she can distribute. >> She'll distribute it. And then, you know, if you guys have any additional comments that we missed tonight, >> Yeah. >> send them to me. I'll take care of that right away. >> And when is the next council meeting, Christine?
>> October 14th. >> No. >> Okay. >> But the package out, >> is it? >> Yeah. Tuesday. >> Yeah. Because of um Columbus Day. >> That's right. Okay. So, um, >> so
packets have to be and this would have to be done almost a week before to go into the council packets for review. So, it would either be for the 14th >> or be the 27th of October. >> Okay. I think we should I mean if it
would be great if we could get it into the 14th meeting and move it along but you know the 27th. Everybody good with the 14th? I mean I feel like let's shoot for it. Okay. >> All right. >> To be done by Friday. >> Well, Bill Bill said he's going to have
draft done tomorrow. >> This will be number nine and it'll have all the comments that we had tonight. >> What? >> So the packets go out the eight. So, >> oh, so we have >> Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said it would have be done by like like two days
from now, like before then. >> What? We need somebody. This is my weekend reading. >> Somebody wasn't who wasn't here tonight reads it with it because they haven't been part of the I don't know just to read it with a fresh
thing. >> Um, I think we count on ourselves to read through. Yeah, but I just need >> books come in the English language. I think pretty good. >> Um, my question, Bill, just my question. >> The purpose of having this. >> Yes.
>> Is this once we have this, does it >> allow us to get grants? We have this and we can apply for grants. Is this >> Okay. So, I read somewhere that it makes it easier to get a grant if you have a specific goal in here that that
grant is going to satisfy. Like, we want to plant this many trees. Do we want to plant this hook? It's something. I just was curious if we needed to think about what would be the hook that would ensure us getting grant money. I mean, we don't have a we don't have like a big project
like if we had all the money in the world, what would we what would we do, >> right? >> Um would we buy a new water truck and so that we could plant all these trees and hire I mean I I don't know if that's >> Well, you do have you do have statements about potential big plans you need. I
thought the approach really from the get-go uh was, you know, >> be specific but general, you know, don't and so we can >> use it broad to apply for many >> Exactly. >> Here's the ex here's an example.
>> That's what >> here's an example. So the plan gets approved and then in the meantime you guys are working on a tree planting project. Say you're going to tear up a whole bunch of concrete along river road because you're going to do that with count and all of a sudden the state frees up some money. >> Mhm.
>> For tree planting. You apply for the grant and they do they will fund concrete removal put trees in. >> Okay. And and so you're you're as you go through this here it is. We need $100,000 for trees.
>> It's in the plan. Another plan. you apply for it, it would absolutely qualify. Okay. >> So, I just wanted to be a living breathing document. So, like we could amend the plan to include a big project like it's a plan, but that
doesn't mean that you have to you can't >> you're going to envision everything especially 5 years down the road. But you do have big projects in here. Sure, >> you have language for big projects in here. I always assumed that you know the the plan was more of a like hey this
town is on top of it you know so when we do apply for things they did we did set forth goals we are explaining how terrific fair haven is and on top of everything >> I I don't think that anybody can read this plan and not come to the conclusion
that you guys are on top of it >> seriously I I do I think I think that that's what's going to come across okay >> on is it's it's good. It's it's specific where it needs to be and um it gives you opportunities uh that don't restrict you
as well. Now now the to be qualified for grants you need this approved. Okay. You need your C use. You need your core. You need you need at least two people core trained. At least two people with CUS
and then complete your AAR in February first. I I guess you do that right Christian. Y >> yeah in forest fire we call it afteraction report. So I can't remember what it
means. annual accomplishment reports. Um, but I I'll have these changes sent to you tomorrow. >> Great. Appreciate it. Thanks, Phil. >> Hey, it's been a pleasure. It really has. If we have to meet one more time, we have to meet one more time. You You don't have a problem with the deadline
because you're ahead of just about everybody that's about the land so far. I think they they've only had three or four plans submitted to them and they I don't think they've approved any of them yet. >> At least at the last meeting they had
>> So, do we need to get it approved by the bar services and then our council or >> No, it's the other way around. >> Yeah, it has to be sent in with the mayor's signature. I suppose he or she has to needs a council resolution before he or she can sign it as well. I get the
process. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> And um and then they they usually they're pretty good at reviewing it and um there's any comments they'll send the comments and uh might be clarifying this or you left this out. You know, this
should this needs to be in section B instead C. and >> the changes are made. >> And then I'll make the changes if that's the case and send them to you. >> Okay. >> And if you say it's okay, then how it goes. I'll be, you know, I'll send it out to you and I'll copy you guys on on
whatever. So, >> okay. >> Great. >> So, if we if we send it out to the commission tomorrow, which is October 2nd, all comments would be due by Tuesday the 7th. >> Okay. >> But then he's got to turn around again. Then we get it to the mayor. Any
comments? No comments ever made me. >> I'm just being realistic. So we don't want to put you under the gun again like two times in two weeks. Like >> what are you paying me for? >> Second >> by Monday.
>> Monday. Yep. Monday. Any comments? Monday at noon deadline. >> So Monday 6 a.m. Eastern >> on a nice Sunday. the third street there. >> All the stuff that you
>> I mean check it out. But I I >> trees in your backyard. >> Did you guys make the meeting? I think that the Freehold soil conservation folks met with uh some folks at Baven Fields about getting a forest stewardship plan for that too and they met with Nick I think
as well was in that meeting. >> They're kind of doing that on their own. I don't think we're like that's that was a little bit confusing in here because I think they're going to do that directly. >> Okay. They being >> what they natural area advisory.
>> Okay. There was Yeah, there was a fellow that I didn't attend the meeting. Um but uh they they talked to a couple people including Nick. I thought there was a shade tree person on it. >> I was I had a meeting. >> Okay. So from what I understand they
they I think the application's gone in. >> They have a deadline for it. So um >> you know I think they met that deadline. So it's under consideration. >> Yeah. Tim Tim was in charge of >> Tim. Yeah. >> Tim Thomas. Yeah. So >> good.
>> So, >> okay. >> Very good. >> Anything else for me? >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Bill. >> Been my pleasure. >> Send me that. I'll take care of this stuff and send it off to you guys tomorrow. >> Appreciate it. Thank you. >> Drive safely.
>> Dear, too. >> Yeah, it's one way to take them down. >> Um, all right. Now, we're moving on. fall resident tree buying program. >> Yeah. Um so
so not as some not as many trees this spring but uh 20 28 trees in total are going in. Um which includes two replacement trees. So 26 and um five of those were the trees that
Sha Tree is funding the um elm and then the four tulip trees. So >> are we are we >> Oh yeah. Yes. I'm sorry. That's right. Um
so so yeah 28 um Magnolia and Dogwood were are most popular. Um I think um it's interesting you know the the decision by Fern Brook to kind of walk away from the ever drains. I'm curious
about that about that >> discussing whether that was just for this program or at all. >> Uh she made it seem to me that they were walking away from Evers altogether. But when when I go down to um the New Jersey
>> whatever it is. >> Yes. I will ask about that because I know that we weren't the only pan on that was a little upset about that decision. So anyway, that's um that's where we are at. We got the um PO today.
So I would presume that um they'll be planted in, you know, in a couple weeks. U but we don't have that date yet. >> The tulips, >> what's that? >> The tulips will be planted. >> Yeah. Yeah. Everything >> that should pick one up. >> Um couple weeks. So, I don't know. Like
I I guess I'm thinking also if it's not the evergreen, um my only my only thought is like how do we make this um easier for people to
actually participate in or like I think that that document has a lot of information, but maybe it's just it's cumbersome. Like I keep going back to the idea that we should have like this should be like a web- based ordering thing, but >> I don't I'm not going there. I don't
know if anybody else >> it's a whole um >> yeah administrative level >> I mean so I mean they're filling out the forms and they're >> it's a Google form but like all the information is it's a lot of pages like
so it has you know the cover page that has the firm firm grand guarantee it has the list of all the trees and then it goes in individually a description of the tree with a picture like so it becomes I don't the home page Is it like 18
>> 18 whatever? >> Like it's one page per tree. >> Like so it's it's a lot. Like it I I wouldn't read it and I make it like >> how how big is the warranty page? Is that just one page? >> We we could probably make a status
statement and just say this is >> I don't know. Like I don't know. Like that's what I'm saying. I don't think that that like the content isn't bad. the content is good. It just it like if you actually look at it, you're like this needs to be this needs to be web- based. Like it like it can't be a PDF as
being like >> right, >> you know. So anyway, if anybody has any thoughts on that, I don't know if you've ever looked at it because again, it's big. >> But a lot of those pages I'm assuming are trees that are offered. >> They are. So it has a list like it has
the list of the trees. It's one page and it has like shade trees, flowering trees, whatever. This is what's offered with the prices. And then it goes into like each each page after it will have like two trees on it. Has a picture of
the tree and a description of the tree which includes like, you know, how big it will be, how fast it grows, what it likes, like what it will look like, like if it flowers, if it turns orange in the fall, blah blah blah. like kind of like those sales details. I don't know. Like
three three or four sentences for each trick. >> So I mean you don't want somebody to have to be like, "Oh, what is a dogwood and this varietal?" And like you have to there it is. And then you have to like go look it up. So it's trying like I was
trying to make it so people have to go >> find >> information about the trade, but it just becomes it's a lot. >> Yeah. But it's so important. I mean I mean that's like you know >> right so each you know so you offering
>> also what am I saying 18 >> yeah every like it's you know clicks through to the order form which is just a Google doc that thankfully Chris does for me but um you know so
anyway if anybody has any thoughts on that >> yeah it's I think it's a good document I think it's just a lot >> you got to get the trees out there you got to know which ones you're >> I mean do people complain about
>> No I'm just I'm just I wonder >> to me I'm like this is Not this isn't easy like to kind of get out there, you know, like it it's just because it's a lot of information. Anyway, maybe like when I go in
>> down to the New Jersey thing, like the other the other towns that are there will also, you know, we could I I know that Madison does a web- based like he he probably makes >> they have a web page like their Shade Tree Commission has a web page. >> They do.
>> I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Um but then like who I I don't who's going to maintain a maintain a website for us? I don't know. Not me. >> Right. Not >> I mean that's I'm not good at that. So >> beyond my skill set. >> Yeah.
>> Is there a budget for that to developer? >> They need line item. >> Yeah. New line item in our budget. I mean that could be a I we're getting off topic here but I mean well not really but I mean maybe
that could be like a high school. >> Is that is that a thing? >> No. Nobody wants to manage a high school kid. >> I mean just like you could hire have them. >> Well, I can see what we could put as a
new agenda item for coming meetings is maybe discuss. >> Yeah, I I mean I'll just come back with like what the other people are doing >> and then >> when are you going a couple weeks? >> Couple weeks. Okay. 16th 16th 16th.
Okay, we'll put it up there. >> So excited that Jill's coming. If >> you didn't know Jill's panelist. Yeah, Jill's a panelist. >> Wow. I mean, yeah. >> Put that in the minutes that you know.
>> Well, we'll get another new agenda item, panelist update. There we go. Um, speaking of which, like I I I'm hoping that I'm going to talk to this guy before Kevin before we go down there. >> Kevin from Brook. He's the one who
organiz I don't know. Maybe >> next in the morning. That's >> other than his free code for you, right? >> Okay. All right. >> Do you have a cell phone? >> I don't. Can you give me a tweet? Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, all right. Well, we don't have
Councilman Lava Vera here. Um, we have been there no specific updates from him. We've been in touch with each other regarding the planting coming up at the field. So, everything is on board. The council was very uh receptive to the idea. So, I mean, obviously, we already
ordered trees and so >> that's good. >> I think that's that's moving all off. So, um we're good there. So, we're on proposed new agenda items. That's some sort of >> I was just going to say so let's make sure so Bick will plant them.
>> Um and we need to make sure that the fence who's going to do that. Are we doing that? >> The fence the trunk fencing. >> Clean the fence around the tree cuz they're right in the middle of the field. They're >> dear. We did order the trunk wrap and
the gator bag. I know you're questioning >> wrap. Well, what do we trunk? >> What do we call it? Trunk >> wrap. Yeah, we have we have that in gator bags. >> Perfect. >> On each tree. >> And they just need to be mulched.
>> Um Okay. Well, is that part of the install? >> No, no, it's just not part of the install. >> Okay. All right. >> So, what are you saying? Who's going to mulch? >> I'm just saying somebody has to mulch. I mean, I could go pick up some mulch on
Thursday trail and bring it over and do it, which is what I did to the other trees. I mean, I feel like this is this is what we're missing. This >> I didn't even think about mulch. I didn't think >> it's super important to keep the moisture in, you know, and to protect the, >> you know, keep the weeds out and so they don't mind the
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's just really important right now particularly. We'll probably go into a drought again. >> Is there Christmas tree mulched? >> Um, yeah. I think way back maybe >> way back last year. Was it
>> you with the with the um with the sail mugs? Wasn't that two years ago? >> No, that Christmas tree last year was like had the extra um branches stuck in it, didn't it? >> No, that was Christmas. This was the first Christmas of the new Christmas tree.
>> Oh, it was. >> So, right. Yeah. So, >> we planted it. I thought we missed it. You know, >> not not the same time we planted the the Santa Monop. It wasn't that time you and I were at the school. >> No. >> Oh, maybe
>> it was the same. >> The first century contract was executed in 2024. 2024 >> in March. >> Yeah. >> April. April was fine. They planted in May or April last year. I think it was
>> when you when I walked over there. >> Yeah. >> I don't think it was the same time we were plant that was >> last year. Steve and Ken and somebody else was there. >> It was last year. You know what I was thinking is that we passed another arm.
That's what I'm thinking. >> We went into the school when we planted the was that the same day the kids came out. Anyway, >> um All right. Anybody new agenda items? So, can we start doing this priority
planting list and add that as something that we update and we like I don't know. >> Sure. So, yeah. >> I don't know. Um >> priority meaning locations >> just we add keep adding you know as I
mean people are going to come to us and say I think this is a great place just keep adding to the list and keep a running list of what we think and we can change things around just say this is where we want to plant trees and then you know we can start working on okay those are the locations Sherry what tree
would work you set the tools for this we can kind of have it all organized so that when we decide We have money. >> Get the water truck >> and when we get the water truck, we'll be ready to go. >> You know, just kind of organizing. We don't we we don't. >> Right. >> We need one.
>> Okay. >> Right. >> Let's go. Priority planning. >> Next agenda item. So again, everybody, Bonnie, what do you think? Everybody comes with ideas. Are we scouting them? Are we taking recommendations?
>> Anything? Okay. talk to the about putting it on our website. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's a good idea. >> All right. >> It's on the agenda. >> Um next meeting >> education programs. This thing that I went to last night at Bri Library was so
good. Um and we're supposed to be doing this. We're supposed to be doing educational and the fact that they coordinated with the environmental commission and their garden club and shade trade. So they had three organizations with all those members and all those connections and it
was, you know, everybody came in there and Bill did this wonderful presentation on just planting trees, what you need to worry about, how you should prune them, you know, just and it was just an interesting and what kind of animals and and he went into bath house. I mean, it was just a really fun conversation about
taking care of your yard, making it a nice little habitat kind of thing. Um, and so I just was wondering if we could think about doing something like that. We have the new community center. Um, and just hosting these speakers, you
know, >> are we talked to Kelly Flanigan because the EC is already has a SK quarterly schedule of of collaborative education series. >> Are they starting? Yeah, they the last couple of of their meetings they're planning to do something for storm water
in the fall, energy in the winter, invasives, hopefully a collab, a shade tree in the spring. Um, so they're already Okay. But nothing about trees. Well, she was thinking invasives, trees. Well, I included Kelly on that email I
sent you. >> Okay. >> And Bosco is the head of the garden club. >> Okay. >> So, just thought we could just start >> spitballing. Yeah. >> Yeah. I just talked to Kelly because like I said, they have something. >> Yeah. So that's calendar. >> But I don't know. What do you think? What do you guys think about that? I
think >> for discussion. >> All right. >> I think collaborating with others would be great and like kind of sharing ideas and sharing the work would be a good idea. >> Yeah. I mean, Little Silver has these wonderful um workshops on like Sundays
or whatever and they might I just went to one birding. They had the gal used to work at literal society. Um, >> are we having discussion now or are we going to have it up the next meeting? >> Oh, >> well, I was just saying that Little Silver has a really nice program in place and it's it's you know, they don't
>> come with the ideas. >> All right. I'm so done. It's almost not a call. Sorry. >> Um, anybody else new agenda items? >> Oh, one one last thing. One second. Do we want
>> Why do I ask why? >> Do the 250th celebration, right? It's big townwide event, right? There's >> Yeah. The the semisquentennial. Yeah. Um we have a committee that's doing it. I mean, there's concerns for
stuff they're doing. Um >> that elm tree is going to be planted. >> Uh but that's not our deal. That's the sons of the American Revolution. Um, do we want to plant a tree in honor of I mean we we planted in 1976. They planted the
tree by bysentennial hall. Do we want to plant a tree in honor? >> When is this? >> July 4th. >> The July 4th. >> No, I we're talking about the tree being planted for the the 200. So >> yeah, that's fine. So July 4th.
>> Well, we don't want to talk about it now. >> We don't plant it on July 4th. I don't think >> we're going to be planting in honor of our 250th anniversary of our country. >> Okay. >> Do we want to talk about Do we want to do something like this? >> Sure. Absolutely we do.
>> Okay. So, should we put that on the agenda to discuss what we're going to plant and where we're going to plant it? >> We can work with Jill and the tree buying program and getting trees in May, right? April, May. >> We could all you could make it a Why
don't you just add it to the priority tree planting list? or a week that all chip in, you know, this kind of shade. Just a thought. >> We have shade tree money. >> You want >> I don't know. Everybody want to throw in
50 bucks. >> I don't I may just apply it. Whatever you want to do. I don't know if people want to do that or if you want to just take it out of budget. >> Yeah, sure. >> If everybody else does it, I guess I have it. Yeah, that's fine. Twist your >> um >> Yeah, >> absolutely we should.
>> Okay. >> I I thought you were trying to plant something along with the elmwood. That's the >> No, it's it's totally different. >> No, I understand that. But >> yeah, but that is going to >> You mentioned it together. That's >> Well, only because I >> I thought the location had changed since
they presented to us going to be at the playground. >> We have 250 trees. >> And Bonnie, you should water every one of them. encourage them. >> That's not the plan. >> Come with a list next meeting or don't come at all.
>> I know. >> Well, I mean, we could do seedlings. 250 seedlings. That would be >> Anyway, public comment area will do that. >> Anyone? >> Anyone? Anyone? Susan. Susan. Susan. No comments. Chrissy, anybody out there in
Zoom land for public comment? >> Mr. McCabe with your public. >> No, but there's no attendee. Please. >> Right. All right. Motion to journ. >> Second, third, fourth, and
don't worry. Unless it's the very very bottom. It's the top of >> watching that meltdown yesterday. I was just >> Yeah, that was sad. >> Thanks everybody. All right. Thank you. Oh,
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