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of the municipal building as was prior under statute. With adequate notice having been given, the Shry Commission secretary is directed to include this statement in the minutes of the meeting. Roll call. Leah Vidani >> here. >> Neil Blecker >> here.
>> Peter Datti >> here. >> Mike D'Angelo >> here. >> Daryl Golden >> here. >> Mark Olsen absent. Rebecca Fle absent. Jill Sullivan absent. Bonnie Torcivia
here. Your new council leazison. Councilwoman Deelli is not here. Um also present. Burough. Secretary Larson, you have a quorum. >> Great. >> Rise for the pledge.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. On to chairperson appointment. And
once the chair's person is appointed, um we will move on to vice. Um I will open the floor for nominations for chairperson. >> Yes. I nominate body recipient. Any other nominations?
>> I nominate Jill Soul. >> Any other nominations? >> Do we have to second the nomination or >> Well, there's multiple. Okay. >> So now it will go to a vote. If there was just one in a second, that person
would be appointed, but if there's more than one, it goes to a vote. So >> vote without everybody. >> Yes. >> Um because there's a quorum. >> So open for discussion. I mean, obviously Bonnie, you're also be a great
candidate. U the reason I voted or nominated Jill is that she's been a member for several years. She has expressed interest in being the chairperson >> and I think she has uh done a great job and she has spearheaded I think two of the most successful projects that we've
had in the past uh couple of years uh the tree inventory project which was a great success and also the tree buying program the resident tree buying program I think she did a good job so that's why I nominated >> any other discussion um I can say why I
nominated Bonnie obviously your passion is uh unmatched for the environment and you have dedicated a great deal. I think Jill's also a wonderful uh part of our commission. Um but you know I just I think you've been so on trees in such a
way and such passion. So um you haven't been on as long but you have you've done a lot for us >> for sure. Well, it's it's um I would as I said totally I'd be honored to be chair, but I I totally agree that Jill has done a
wonderful job and contributed um an awful lot to this mission. So and that you know so whichever I mean as long as she's you know I didn't know she wanted to be I thought you know the thing that I don't have a
job I'm not working right now so I have a lot of time as you know to read to read and do a lot of things and meet um so that's kind of nice this was no slight on you at all you do a great job too but I know I spoke to Jill about and she also has an interest
yeah >> wish she was here >> yeah She couldn't make this meeting. I think she's got uh work stuff, but she said she'd make most of the meetings except for one in May where she has enough work. So, what do we do? Do we bring it to a vote?
>> Yes, you would bring it to a vote. Um Peter, can you hear us? >> I can. Yes. Thanks. >> Okay. Um so, um I will take >> And do new members vote or Daryl? >> Do I need to be sworn in before I vote? >> That's okay.
You've been appointed by the mayor and you're approved by council I think. >> Okay. So by um roll call vote >> and I would just say I mean we're not going to vice chair but whoever is not
>> being vice chair. Yeah. >> Any other? So, by roll call vote, I'm gonna um the first nomination for Jill um those in favor um and I'm going to do the same for Bonnie.
>> Okay. >> So, because this is this is by far the most controversial. >> I mean, we're going to be controversial. Would you rather not speak and do raise hands? I
>> No, I know. I just like um Okay. Uh okay. Uh I I'll say no. >> Okay. >> That's the Jill, right? Jim's friend >> Jill, I guess. Like Yeah.
Um, why don't we just we'll raise hands because um all members in favor of Jill Sulvin for chair, please raise your hand. Peter, is that you raising your hand? >> Yep.
>> One, two, three. Oh, great. This is great. Okay. >> Um, all those in favor of body torsia. Okay, let's see. Okay, that's >> um so if it's tied I think I don't know if it um I mean I could just go through
the bullet points and we could vote at the next meeting. I don't know how you guys >> I mean I could >> if it's a tie I don't get a vote I can't vote right >> um and there's an uneven number for quorum we're missing three members today we're missing Mark Olson Rebecca Fleet
and Sullivan >> if we can defer to that I mean it's probably better just have the full >> or close to full constitute of the of the um commission to vote I think >> yeah and as the current vice chair I mean if it's okay with everybody available on this meeting and then we
give her a full election to the next meeting >> and they have to be present to vote. Correct. There's no >> pros. There was no because Jill had emailed and asked if she could vote by prophecy and that's not the case. >> Right. >> If there was only a single nomination and then a seconded she would just be
appointed. Sorry, you're not here with your >> right. Right. >> Um no. >> Okay. >> All right. So >> be determined is >> all right. That's fine. We'll table it until February. And um Mike, you want to
run the rest of the meeting then? >> Sure. >> Uh so I don't know if anybody's been able to take a look at the minutes from December, but typically what we do for our new members is that we have reviewed them and agreed with them. There's no motion to approve it. Second
is to approve. Second. Uh any naysay? Okay. Previous minutes have been approved and we'll go right to project updates. The 2026 tree planting plan. All
members. Um Christie, you just want to give us a little what we were discussing last time, a little overview what we were what this is about. >> So we were discussing >> is this from my new business that I brought up last time or is this how we want? >> You were talking 250th trees, right?
also wanted to >> that's a separate night. >> Yeah. >> Um I think uh as the budget was concluding last year and that last minute kind of decisions you were trying to get ahead of your planning plan for the year early on
>> versus you know so you can spend the money instead of waiting till the end. So I think it's just members trying to identify locations and >> get on the board if it's public property. I I think that you know I mean we're this is a commission that has
obviously been changing but in the past few years I feel like we really haven't been putting an emphasis on actually getting trees in the ground which is I think something that should be our priority in 2026 and that's why I brought it up in new business in the December meeting and hopefully that's something that is a priority for us this
year and maybe we can brainstorm on how we could do that >> and we have $10,000 is that what we have now or is it $12,000 we haven't received the budget allocations yet, but based on last year, it's about that. Yep. >> Which you're talking about the shade tree trust has about 10,000 in it.
That's >> And that is fun. >> You can spend it on private property or public property or projects or research or really it's at your discretion. It's not tax dollars, it's donations. >> And the municipal budget, that's tax dollars, so it can only be used on
private I mean, excuse me, public property plantings. And the 10,000 includes the um bill money. Yep. That's what it is. It's accumulation basically of all the community >> and also u not only obviously you have
to be mindful of getting the actual trees in the ground where they make should go and right tree right place but also the care of it the next couple years sure that it drops it would be more upon us to you know put a tree in the ground if it doesn't survive for the next few years. That's I
think part of the budget as well. So, do we have um I had mentioned like maybe using Jill's connections with the president tree Brian program that was somewhat controversial last time, but maybe we set a modest goal of I don't know, one per month or 12 over the next
year that we can get in the ground in public places. Is that same reason? >> Uh yeah. I mean, you going to actually plant them or just >> have them planted and you know, I mean, this is what we've been talking about. We've been, you know, obviously we care
for the trees and you care about the trees that are in town, but there's been >> a almost a vacuum of trees, I believe, in town since Sandy, we've lost a lot of trees and I see a lot of little areas throughout town where there are spots where I knew there was a tree there before Sandy and I'd like to feel
started pulling them in uh in public places. So, we um worked with FMA, but we didn't go through the resident tree bond program, which the they end up planting in May, which is so late in the season. It's after the rain, it's when it's starting to get hot, and then we
have to take better care. If we could, if we had enough to justify them coming to town early, maybe in April, would have been late March and planting some trees then take advantage of the rains and >> and then could we do another planting perhaps in the fall?
>> Yeah. And do that again. >> And um the natural area has been doing it so we could combine them. Um so they only come to town once, they plant some in the natural area and then they plant a little further back. >> They are. Yeah. >> Okay. So, um, yeah, they've been trying to do some planning of the cell tower
and, um, that's looked out pretty well. >> What about I'm sorry, >> do we have a mapping of locations, specific locations where the plantings are needed? >> Tori map Christie show vacancies. >> No, we were not able to pick that up.
>> Um, we for DPW, they they really want to inventory use all the money towards inventory, the public, >> but I mean You could do a windshield review. You could see where there's, you know, gaps and trees where there could really be something
>> Second Street just come to mind. I know that Second Street there's big gaps. There's a lot of sun where there used to be trees. >> So, um, maybe we just I I would suggest we just go, you know, to the commission here and drive around town, say, "Okay, I think I have a couple sites that I
think would be for the tree." Uh, and then I would lean on your expertise and like what kind of tree and um what best time to plant it, species, that sort of thing. If it survive in that area, um, the age
of the tree that we put in, that sort of thing. >> Well, I mean, Sherry like recommended the tool trees at the um community center. I mean, I could actually, you know, ask her, too, if we picked out a few spots and said, "What do you recommend we plant there?" And I I was
just walking around the back of the community center. They still use so many trees. That playground is barren. It's just I mean I know those trees are going to take a long time to come in, but >> um like even if you think about the sun
coming around in the summer, that big lot right behind the new community center is going to be so hot all afternoon. Like if a row of trees was planted between the playground and there's like railroad ties there now, but if you planted some along there,
they could shade eventually both the playground and that area that I don't I'm not sure what the plan is for that. >> That's the thing like that adds another layer I think of but the town has plans for that area too. Um so it might delay us. So, I was just thinking maybe pick
spots on specific streets in the public right away where people, you know, you could ask the resident, "Would you like a tree here?" And then we kind we would have to rely on residents as well >> to put it in their yard like keep it. >> It's not It's still public right away, but in front of their house, right?
>> Um, you know, I would I would hope that a resident would want something, but if they didn't, then I would be reticent about planting a tree there because >> be great. Yeah. have somebody that's >> what what about the trees that were removed as hazard trees on public
property have they weren't replaced right >> which ones >> um like any trees that TP DPW that took took down for >> oh like fields >> yeah like anywhere that fell >> yeah like remember like you noticed that they weren't replacing them
>> um and that was going to be part of like our goal too >> right so like is it appropriate for you for us to use these funds to replace the trees that have been taken out and DPW would probably have a list of what has been >> because they now file permits.
>> That's a good idea, too. >> For removable, so I have a list of those. I mean, I think there's like three, but yeah. >> Okay. Well, I can share that with you guys. So, all great ideas and I do think it's reasonable that we just sit under the commission like why don't we do a little windshield review on our own some places
and I don't know if we want to knock on doors on residents they want trees in front of there on their house but if you know the resident maybe it's worth knocking on their door you know I know one resident on second street a lot of gas I'm sure asking that
even selfishly on Hro there's a couple spots where trees were taken down and about that So I I might ask that area too. >> So do we give them a chance to do the resident tree buying program first or I mean >> well no I mean this is I'm talking this
is for this commission and I'm thinking public right away not buying a troop. >> But so the public rightway is the sidewalk that strip of land between the street and the sidewalk right not very big. >> It depends on Yes. It depends on the
size of the street and whether whatever regulations we have in town, but yes, there's a certain strip of land that between the sidewalk and >> which is not ideal, right? >> I just remember Kevin from Frontier saying nobody should plant that spot, >> right? >> No, like our whole street I'm on.
>> Mhm. >> The town owns the first 12 feet of my property. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. In case they don't want the sidewalk. There isn't a sidewalk, though. So that that entire >> Yeah. >> section of because they put a sidewalk on I'm on a corner. When they put the
sidewalk in, they cut three of my trees down. >> See, this is what Susan was saying like we have to make sure that we don't set that up. So we plant a bunch of trees and then they >> um Yeah. And to Daryl's point, I think it varies from street to street what the rightway is and how wide it is.
>> Yeah. Mine's 26 ft. See? >> So that's yours is 26 toward your from the street to your front. the point to my house on the corner. So like point >> So is there any way to find out some of
these >> rightways measured from the middle of the road >> that way like you know towards the property. So and it's different on every street. So >> location we can ask Ned to help us out look at a tax map we can figure it out. If we if we had some recommended sites
where you see gaps or think tree would be really nice there used to be a tree there and perhaps we should put another one then we can kind of locate those sites and then ask Nick about you know what the right way is how wide it is and if it's healthy for a tree there. Well, do we want to start collecting these?
Like I because we we wait till the next meeting and then you know like if people wanted to send me their ideas I could try to put a list together or something of >> just to if we just get an accumul you know when you when you're driving down the street and you go oh that would be a good place and just like
>> we could do that >> or send it to Christie or something just make a list. Can we send emails to Bonnie individually as a commission or should go >> individually or we can send them to Christie whichever collect them whatever you >> I feel we should give ourselves homework like like a goal like let's each find
>> spots for x five treats >> and they don't have to be perfect because we know we're all five may not work out but if we all contribute those you know four or five ideas you know and we can get 12 out of them one per month then we've achieved our goal
>> do we access to this money in March. Receive >> this trust fund. We have access to >> what um >> even though it's in the trust fund though, you still have to do the same financing processes with the purchase orders, vendors, and stuff.
>> Yeah. Um, do you think I think what's nice about this too is even if we have a list and we like, you know, we do the homework on making sure they're in an appropriate location, whatever. But, um, even if we don't get to everybody right away, we more than 12.
>> Yeah. >> When we realize we have more money. >> Yeah. So what Christy if we sent them to you >> and could Nick like as they like every I don't know monthly.
>> Yeah. Just like I don't know >> if we send them in you know there's a lot of factors right resident be a resident who is friendly to taking care of the tree >> and want the tree well you know is the public right away large enough where it
would be healthy for the tree and the tree could thrive. I think there are a lot of factors there. Um, but I think at least first step before the next meeting, yeah, I'm happy to send you a couple of areas >> and I think I have the commission to do so and we'll get this ball rolling.
>> Yeah. >> Any other comments or ideas about >> So, Bonnie's collecting the and centralizing a list. If you can get the address, yeah, the house number. >> Um,
>> and maybe even resident friendly. >> And if you can say, I talk to them and they have a trade. That would be >> Yeah. Should we talk to them? Are we allowed to knock on doors and I think so? >> I mean, I might go to places, you know, everybody knows. It's a small town. Um,
>> we have a no knock list people that allowed to go. So, if there there are Lots of addresses on it. >> Give them a treat. >> I'm just saying what kind of commagin are they? >> This is for solicitors. So this could be
I guess soliciting. >> All right, that sound I think that's a great initiative and hopefully uh we'll have 12 trees in the ground by 20 26. >> You want to aim for >> Does that does that seem right? have a waiver where the resident is responsible
for all maintenance care of the tree, right? A waiver. >> Uh yeah, that's if we're >> Yeah, that's that's a sticky issue. >> The resident tree binding program, we explicitly make them sign that they will not plant in the right away. >> Yeah.
>> Because the bureau doesn't want to be liable for it, >> right? >> Oh, so Oh, it's dead. Can you buy me a new one? Oh, it's dead. Can you water it for me? >> Yeah. have to be >> something to think about. >> Yeah, that's fair.
>> That's why if we still say around around Fair Haven Fields, I think putting in a bunch of trees getting in the park and working >> I mean we could a lot there. >> We could we could plant 50 there and it would be swallowed up with nothing,
>> right? Um yeah, but not every I want people to see Fair Haven. And my personal feeling is I want people I would like people to see Yes. the trees that are being planted in our community. You know, people do go there, but I want people to drive by and say, "Oh, look,
there's a tree planted." >> Important plant also. >> So, but we could do both. I mean, that doesn't prohibit us from going. >> That was the one thing that Bill Rash said. You need trees at Hidden Fields. >> Yeah.
It was like that really >> well that then yes we could have that as one of the response. >> Who would pardon me? >> Who who would we need to speak with um to get authorization to plant in Fair
Haven Fields? >> Council. council. >> We need to get probably the park and back group on board. >> Ultimately council though. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. If you have specific sites in mind, DJ would walk with you, but ultimately council.
>> Michael. Michael is your new council liaison. So she would be the best person to speak with as you get >> more concrete ideas. >> Got it. >> DJ tomorrow um about a love day question. Do you want me to ask him?
>> Sure. He he approached me three years ago to put a tree right by the uh that little playground area. >> A shade tree. >> Yeah. Where'd you play? >> Right by where the snack shed is. >> Oh. >> Just to give some shade to that area.
>> Yeah. >> And then I guess it just fell through because he they were going to find >> concessions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they did plant the elm there, but that's kind of on the other side. >> Yeah. >> So, yes, I'm sure he has some ideas for
trees. Very other comments. All right, moving right along. The 250th anniversary project. So last meeting um well if you don't know for the new members uh in 2026 July
4th be the 200 anniversary of the country and we were uh tasked or thinking about how we could commemorate it here with the shade tree commission. We came up with an idea of commemorating trees that have been in existence at that time since that time. So trees that
are 250 years or older. I think we came to a consensus that would be a nice idea and maybe commemorating those trees with a ribbon and or a QR code or maybe the age of the tree at the time um that it was 1776.
And then we uh as you see by I guess brought some pictures. Do you want to put some pictures of uh potential trees that we could uh commemorate but obviously there are more um >> I went out in the burrow buzz um and we
did get one response someone who thinks they have one in their yard. So, we were I'm keeping the list >> and um once I have a few, we'll have Sherry take a look once we have like a bundle if but so far just one. But that's great. And
>> I'll keep you guys posted if I get any more. It was in the buzz. Um >> the January buzz is a little cluttered, but hopefully the next >> Yeah. Um I think because of all the reorgs that are going on all month long, I think it's a little cluttered, but um hopefully we'll get that back in there
and people will pay attention. So if we this is identifying these trees. She thinks it's 250. She we can get the fellow Joe Bennett from the who came out and um measured all these trees officially and put them on the big tree list. Um if we had a group we could have them come out and they certified them
and then they put them on the website. Um and you know if you have a big old tree it's a champion or it's a signature tree or whatever it is. Um >> so I think I mean it seems like it's far off but I don't think it really is. I think you guys start working on this right away. So,
>> um let's brainstorm on a timeline of what we need to do because there are a lot of factors. How first of all, how are we going to commemorate these treats? I was thinking a ribbon or red, white, and blue ribbon. But then we get into like the nitty-gritty and granular stuff like how is it safe to put a
ribbon on the tree and how's it going to stay? Uh you don't want to put, you know, nail in a copper nail into the tree. holes. >> Not a problem, that's for sure. >> So, how do we, you know, how do we commemorate the tree? Number one. Number
two, do we identify it and put a QR code with something going to a social media site where they can just look it up on your phone saying this tree was 30 years old in 1776 and in 17 in that time, you know, whatever. It look like this. Um,
do we want to get that granular or do we just want to commemorate with a ribbon? What if we do a ribbon? Like each tree has its own post on >> on our social media, but um if we
Oh god, if I'm right, um >> yes, I have just the Are you talking about the age of the trees? Oh, if we uh were able to also say how much carbon it captures in every year. >> Yeah. >> Oh, that's great.
>> Yeah. So, >> I love that. >> A story on each of the big old trees. I think that's great. >> So, you think we could do that if we put if we put a QR code next to the tree or just put that on the website?
I wonder if we >> because I want to tie it all together obviously and I like my vision is tie it all together where people drive by. Why is that ribbon on that tree? >> I like that it's red light and blue and white. >> Yes, it's like a big ribbon and then like do they walk up to it? Is there a
QR code that they can or do they go to your go to the website and then go find the trees or how or does it all kind of work together? We're all just brainstorming this. I mean, >> if you're going to have them, you know, the story on some site, whatever site
that is, it could probably be the same QR code for each tree. It just brings you to that >> and then to that you can scroll through and look at all the different trees that >> I don't know that you'd need a unique QR code for each tree. I mean, that'd be great, >> but it might be too much. It's probably
heavier than >> the one like in Burough Hall in the library and with a little sign or something. And I just I know there's a big deal about signs. >> What? >> What if we put a QR code? I know it's not like fancy, but like a laminated and
attached it to the ribbon so it's not on the tree. >> Yeah. But it's on the >> It works if the right on the front of the property, but like I know um the collaborator tree, they would have to walk down the driveway. >> You might want a little stand out front
like a little something. Maybe the ribbon is on a stick like I don't know. But >> I mean those realtor signs I put in >> in laws for open houses like one of the we could make those >> uh or something like that with a QR code. Then it's on the edge of the
property. They can scan it. It'll all go to one central location for all of it. Then they'll see all the other ones, too. Not >> right. Resident pending. Right. I don't know if people are going to want to sign on their property, but >> they may not. But they may, but they may. >> But they may want they may not want the
rivet. Right. >> True. >> I think that's a signal. >> Do you can you do that? >> Yeah. Your little signs and I'll see what I think. We do farmer science. I have to I have to figure that out.
>> Even like the yard signs that like the seniors in high school get >> do those. Yeah. >> I mean you because and you can design that in any way you want. >> We probably have to get burrow approval approval. >> Yeah. So, this is something we probably need to start working on now because
getting the signs, getting the ribbons, u identifying the trees, making sure that the ribbons are getting up in due time. I was thinking trying to maybe tie this into maybe uh Armor Day, get the ribbons up by then. >> Good idea.
>> Because then it's a, you know, not only is it just in July, but it's leading up to July. >> Oh, yeah. I was thinking too maybe we can coordinate some activity with kids like a scavenger hunt or something where they have to go around town and find all the
trees either like there's a green team at no I think either with them or maybe with boy scouts or something. I think coordinating some kind of activity would be fun saying that the boy scouts he did this they looked around big trees. >> Yeah. >> How did you do that? How did you organize that? Walk around with
everybody. >> Oh it was a small group. Um we reached out to the parents ahead of time and then just asked them to you know can you can we identify the biggest tree that you've seen in town and we got six or eight I think I think we ended up settling on six that were accessible and
that was our hike for the day and we we did well we did like three and a half miles around town. >> That's awesome. >> And uh I'm pretty sure Dave Taylor signs up to be a tree a shade tree guy right after that.
>> That's right. Oh, great story. >> Cuz he was my assistant cup master. That's right. >> That is a is a great thing. I think the kids would love that. >> Yeah. And I was thinking maybe foregoing the the poster contest this year and then you identify and buy all the trees
and you get entered into a giraffe into a little contest for Exactly. A tree or you get the gift card instead of doing the um poster contest. And I was just thinking that would be a cool way if they keep the kids out on
the trees >> just like your idea. >> Okay. There is um Jill sent me her review on this. Um for the 250th anniversary project, I was tasked with reviewing the inventory data to see if it contains information about the age of the 2600 public trees in the data set.
Unfortunately, it does not. However, I downloaded the complete data set, ran it through chat GPT, asked me to estimate the age of each tree based on speed, current age, growth rate. Um, it identified seven likely candidates, and I was surprised it was so low. I drilled
down a little more, found it wasn't very comprehensive. There were quite a few species for which it was unable to calculate growth growth rates. So, I expect that number to increase once I have time to run this analysis further on other platforms. >> Stay tuned. Interesting.
>> All right. So to get the you know get get the inertia going on this um we should identify I mean obviously we have seven here six. Nine eight. >> Well they aren't all 250 years old. >> Oh they're not
>> they're Yeah, they're a couple. >> All right. Um, so that I mean to say that a tree is 250 is is pretty precise. I mean it's usually like well it's 200. I mean it's not >> well I would say at least 250, right? Trees that were in existence during
1776. >> Okay. But tell between 200 and 250. I mean until you cut it down count the range. Yeah. So if you said at least 200 I mean 200 it could be 250. I don't I don't know. I mean there are a couple
trees that are there but 200 there certainly yeah they've been around. >> Yeah. So it's it's I mean I think even the bar Sherry would probably say I I couldn't estimate that close to >> So what do you think a reasonable number is to to put a ribbon on? Should we do
12? Should we do 20? >> I think a so like people can go around town and say there's 20 trees in town. >> So maybe pick a number 12. We don't want to get we don't get caught in the weeds and have all these trees and we don't have too little either >> and something to make it fun for
everybody to identify the trees. So what's a reasonable number? >> 25 1350 I think that's too many. I would think like between 8 and 12 would be >> like that's I feel like the small enough number that people might actually try and go see
>> about 13 for the 13 original >> does that unlucky >> that's right about can we identify 13 trees that are only call them name the states >> too crazy >> pennies for Pennsylvania
>> so if We can maybe I don't know if we um obviously we have one resident who thinks so if we can make do you think we could look to Sherry to say okay >> can you find us 13 trees that are close to 250 years old at least or 200 years old >> and we have
>> is that reason >> and we could use our budget to pay her to do that >> or we collect them all and then we give her them and say could you just go out or if we get the fire service to come out here they're coming out here anyway to measure and trees. They That's what they do. They identify it. They're
>> But time is of the essence. Do you think like I want to get going on this because the next meeting is February. >> April is two meetings away. >> We have to go to council. We really got to start thinking about this now. So I think the most efficient way is to have
Sher say, "Listen, >> can you find us 13 trees that are 250 years old?" I bet you the Marter oak trees some >> huge ones there. >> Don't you think that they're >> they've got to be 200. >> But it would just be easier and
efficient if we had someone say here are your third or here are 20 trees pick by the next meeting and then we could say okay these are the trees. Then we go to council and say, "Can we do this?" which I'll see that won't be a problem. And then we can get the ball rolling on getting the QR code, getting the signs,
the ribbons, so everything's in place by April. >> So the buzz goes out every Monday. So I'll continue to keep it in the buzz. Um, and do you want to give Sher a date of like by January 31st or before the next meeting? >> Does that sound reasonable to everybody?
Because like I said, I time I don't want to, you know, miss this opportunity. I think it would be a very cool celebration by us. >> Do we want to century another listing
driving around fair looking at trees first? She might even have >> Yeah, she might off. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I'll discuss with her. I have >> so we have if she get comes back with say what how many trees and then we I pick 13. That's okay with her. If it's a
reasonable number, then we can get then we can bring it to council as an ID go from there. >> When's Do you know that? Do you have the council schedule? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And what are you? >> Yeah. Should we just try to get on Can
we ask to be on a certain like March? >> When do you think you'll have your plan totally formulated? >> Hoping by February. >> Maybe late February or the first week of March. But because typically shade tree does their annual report around then in front
of council maybe do two at once do that the proposal >> okay >> at one meeting >> and after their approval we'll have enough time to implement our plan I think >> there's a February 23rd council meeting >> and then from the 23rd
>> okay >> so that's after our shade phase so that's >> yeah maybe we shoot for the nine for that council meeting to present >> for that that's All right. Anyway, all right. Um, yep. >> Any other ideas or comments about the
150th? >> I'll look up the pricing for the signs. >> And then how about you want to look up ribbons too? >> Not at all. big big >> I mean the more garish the better I got to be popping like why is that big
ribbon on that tree >> right >> they have to be water like >> resilient >> and then make sure that we put it on there so it stays >> wondering about um of course engaging in cub scouts and boy scouts so that they're part of it and do you know is it
something engage the science teachers in schools and maybe encourage them to assign something so that kids are have to go out and do this. >> We've done that with the uh the the oyster contest and it's get varying
responses. It depends on the teacher some really into it. >> Right. Um, but I like your idea because I'd like to pivot the uh Arbor Day celebration at least the noble age kids and even the sickles age kids that go flying these trees. >> I mean the RF kids, who knows if they
have the ball, right? >> Although surprisingly they might be more into it. >> Yeah, you never know, you know. >> But if there's if there's a gift card at the end of it, a potential gift card, fine. >> That's true. >> Maybe they'll be motivated. Yeah. Right. Any
other ideas regarding the celebration? >> The only other um Christy the thing that sad you about Euing. >> Yes. I was just was looking at I was like you know googling ways to
celebrate. Um, Euing is doing a 250th and they are trying to get residents to sign a pledge to plant a tree so they get to 250. You know how 200 trees? >> Um, and they started it last fall and I
mean I was the the natural area just finished planting 90 bare root trees. Um the bird sanctuary we just planted with the party bird sanctuary committee about 50 like if if >> so that's what periods like
>> well that was in the last in December. >> Okay. And then how about with the resident tree buy program trees? >> We didn't we didn't get a whole lot last time was it 20 28? Yeah, I wasn't. Um >> I'm just thinking we can get close to that number just cuz and then this pass
we got 20 up the spring. >> It's hard to read, but um go back to the two. Yeah, this link is not working. >> Oh no. >> So that's why this is their
>> Yeah. No, it's not their shade tray. It was special. It was on the green. It was on their green team was sponsoring it. So, >> um, but it was it was getting residents to pledge to plant a tree, which was like just kind of committing to put one in the ground, which I don't know if you like that idea, but it was a way to get,
you know, people >> I don't think that's a bad idea. When is love when you love where you live? That's >> April. >> April. >> April 28th. >> Is it Oh, it's late April. Right after >> this. It's just like a Google form basically. >> Yeah. So, it's just a a promise
basically. Mhm. So, it's just a way to celebrate the birthday. But as I said, so the birthday is July 4th. So, the question just is kind of I was thinking, could we count these trees that have already been planted leading up to this? We have a
head start with between the natural area and the bird sanctuary. We've been planting trees. Um I don't know. I don't know that you have to start January 1st. >> No, >> because or or you do. I mean it's the whole is it the year 2026 or is it >> wouldn't you have started July 5th of
>> Yeah that's what see kind of that's what I was thinking >> if that is it would >> but then but then you don't get credit for fall planting so I don't know it just was an idea to try to get more people engaged in planting trees
>> I mean I think we could post it on can we post it on our social media >> pledge Yeah. >> 250 for 250 or >> something like that. >> Yeah. >> One. Yeah. You know what is a good way
to celebrate the 200th anniversary of our country? Plenty of future. >> Yep. >> And let us know. >> Good idea. >> You're gonna be busy. Um, no. This was all looking pretty
good. So, >> and you're right to get it. >> Let's get it going. >> I mean, this is the problem. Just the year gets involved. >> Yes, it does. Anything else before we move on? All right. Becky's not here for swag.
>> Um, I did speak to Chris York about that. and burrow municipal budget is you're not allowed to buy and sell things for profit. So like I know you want to do the shirts like you can't under using burough finance procedures you can't
print up these shirts these shady shirts and try to sell them for more than you're buying them. That's just not um like he mentioned the way the library is raising money is de developing like a friend of a whole other organization is basically just to raise fund. So, um
I don't if there's other things you guys have in mind, but that's a that's buying and selling for profit is a >> nogo. >> Well, once she comes back for the next meeting, we can always uh readress that. >> You just can't make profit. >> Yeah. >> But if you make the shirts and you sell
them at cost, >> I don't understand why. >> I mean, is But is that okay, Christie? If you saw and you weren't making money, you were just getting the, you know, getting people to wear >> for awareness. >> Yeah. Like the >> maybe if you use your trust fund money,
it would be a different response. So, I can ask about that if you want. Wait till Rebecca comes back, see what she doesn't mind. There are also like there are like websites like printed by I mean I don't I'm sure Rebecca knows about this, but like those you don't you only
pay to print. So like once someone orders it, they they basically pay for it and then it's printed and sent to them directly. >> So there's no inventory. It's just we print whatever folks want. Yeah.
>> Exactly. >> Right. Peter. >> Yeah. Uh, so >> giveaway. >> Yeah. Can you guys hear me? Okay. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Okay, great. Sorry I can't be there in
person. Um, yeah. So, the we had just just for everybody's information, the the uh fairy and road cherry tree giveaway was a program we did a few years ago. Uh and it was kind of the impetus for it
was the the string of cherry trees uh down by the uh natural area on Bear Haven Road. And we had some well continue to have some concerns about the age of those trees. So those trees I
think are really older than u perhaps their expected life. So the the question was should we begin to uh start to replace them. Uh that involved a plan of removing say every third tree and
planting a tree in its place. Um we we talked about the concerns around that and one of the concerns was well how are we going to know that you know are folks going to be confident to cut down trees and then have you know be be confident that another tree is going to grow in
its place. Um, and so we ended up kind of brainstorming, coming up with this idea that we would try to plant quanzan cherry trees along the whole length of ri of Fair Haven Road. And so we put out
that year we put out flyers and basically did a uh a you know uh we had folks submit uh this group voted uh and we gave away a cherry tree to uh the house on the corner of Third and Fair
Haven Road. And so the idea would be to do the same thing. So, we have folks who uh submitted last time but didn't win. Um, so we could go back to them and then we could also go back to just canvasing Fair Haven Road, the you know the houses
on Fair Haven Road with um with flyers and ask for submissions. Uh so I think that would be the I think that would be the program. Again, I've also It's actually interesting because as as you drive down Fair Haven Road, you see other houses uh that have since planted
cherry trees. Kind of fun. So, um that that's the idea. So, if this group is is still game for that, I will I'll get rolling on the flyers again and we'll uh we'll do the giveaway presumably. Last time we did it with a spring uh tree
sale. I think it's a good time to do it. Um, so if we're all on board, I will go to work on that. >> It was just It was one tree that you gave away. >> It was one tree. Yeah. >> And Peter, what was the cost of that
tree and getting it in the ground? The total cost. Do you remember? >> Uh, I don't remember exactly. It was on the order of a few hundred. I can look to see what >> they charge 3.85 for quenturing. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. I think. >> Yeah,
>> I I think that's right. I can go back to my notes and find, but it's it's on that order. Yeah. Two $300, maybe four. >> And are the trees doing well? I I have to say I haven't specifically looked at them. Are they >> Yeah, last I looked they were doing
well. Yeah. >> And Peter, what's your goal? Is it to have one tree a year giveaway or one? uh you know I mean we could do more but you know I think there we certainly had folks who were interested I think we
turned down I don't know maybe five or six residents so I mean we have other folks who would love to have a tree if they haven't already planted one on their own valition uh so but at this point we had we had
said we'd plant a tree so we could do the same thing again we could uh if we're willing we can spend a little more money and give away a couple more. >> Yeah. I mean, I think we had to do it. >> Was it I mean, how did we pick? Was it
the lottery or >> No, we we sat down with um I just put together pictures of each house uh that that submitted and this group voted. >> Decided. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, and it was highly scientific.
Yeah. >> I feel like some houses had like wires or something you were worried about. I feel like there were reasons that some some were not chosen. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> They didn't have a host spot in the front of their house. We didn't trust
they would want to. >> Um but yeah, that's the that's the idea. And I would just uh look to do that same thing again if we're all if we're all on board. And then I guess the question is how many would we like to give away? And I could come back to the group with uh
with an estimate on tree price. >> I guess could we decide the final number once we know how many viable candidates there are? >> Um you know we we could I think the limiting factor is really the cost. It's
just how much you know how much do we want to spend or can we spend >> right? Um but assuming that we would have more locations than than our budget um
which is a good problem. Uh we can uh I think we I think we can go into this with a kind of budget number in mind. Although it's easy to flip that, you know, we could say we're giving away two this year or three this year depending on where we stand at that point. So
>> we're we're not specified how many were given away. Just legally >> Yeah, we don't have to. Right. We don't have to go into that, >> right? So Darl, you're right. We we don't have to say upfront one person will win. >> And Peter, did we just get a price from Fernbrook or did we did you get a price
from anybody else? I'm just curious. I don't >> No, we didn't. We want We wanted to coordinate with the with the tree buying program. >> Keep it Keep it simple. >> And the tree that is in the ground is doing okay. passive. I assume that res will take care of it.
>> Yeah. You know, I will um I will go by and just make sure. Like I said, the last time I went by, it looked good. But let me let me go by and uh and and affirm that. >> And Peter, if there's buck rub, let me know and I'll get over there with fencing. >> There you go. That's a very good point. >> Yeah.
>> Maybe it should come Maybe it should come with free buck rub. >> Yes, free penc. All right. Thank you, Peter. >> Yep. Thank you. >> Community outreach, Leah.
>> Uh, yes, we have 243 followers on Instagram. Um, I, uh, obviously I have some exciting things to make social media for. So, uh, I don't be asking for any
ideas. We already have some great ones. Now, um, another thing You remember how we had talked about maybe informing neighbors about their ID on their trees potentially killing them? Um, I started making a door hanger that I thought
would be easy to print and just like put on people's doors. >> Didn't we do that? >> Well, we did. We Well, we talked about the We did. It was like an instructional, >> right? It's two-sided. >> It's two-sided. >> Yeah. I still have some in the box and it's
>> Yeah. Um, so I we were talking at another meeting about like how to make because I keep driving every day I'm driving around with my kids and I'm just like this Ivy is killing the street. Yeah. >> And so um you know I I we were talking at another meeting about finding ways to
maybe like politely suggest that hey we happen to notice that you have ivy on your tree that might be infringing on its health or whatever. I don't know. Um, I don't have any really I I made like a mockup one, but I hadn't worked on the language yet, do you know? But
that would be a great boy scout project. >> Yeah. And you know who was doing like a a child business with Patrick Hoey was doing that for a little while. Yeah. >> Yeah. Did that last >> Well, you did one in my house. I had like some IV growing up. My friend
>> was like eliminating the IV. >> Yeah. You and my sister did it for a while. I think two summers. Not to say I don't Hi is a former commissioner and also got his kid working. I'm just saying it's both commissioners. >> So I mean did they how did they did they
just cut the the break in the ivy or they actually pull it off? >> They pulled it off too. >> Yeah. But it was not it was something that I would have done in probably 15 minutes at my yard. But like I was just trying to Yes. Well, I was just trying to think if you had boy scouts approach
people. It might not be as >> Yes. >> judgmental as the shade you're going. I mean, there's people in my street that I want to go, can I just cut your IV for you? I be so happy to cut the IVL to come over with Chris Rodriguez and see
if that could be good. I'm sure there is some >> achievement that they're looking to to do. I mean um it could even be you know >> the environmental marital project if it was enough. Um so >> that's true.
>> Yeah. So I'll chat with them and see >> you know where there's some symbiosis there. Yeah. >> It's just it's it is it is such a problem. >> It's all over. >> It's all over. >> It's all and people don't know like a lot they just don't know. No, they see green and they think it's leaves, but
they don't realize it's >> I was thinking of putting it through Chashy PT and say, "Kim, can you make this sound >> nice?" >> Nice. found non-judgmental >> but informative >> but it is a it's it's a little
complicated because you're supposed to cut it and not pull it because it off but then you're also you still have stuff on the ground it's going to grow back unless you eventually do something >> like in a perfect world you paint the tips with that you cut with something that goes into the root system
>> but obviously the boy scouts are not doing that with >> nor is any reasonable resident just you But yes, there that is the right way to do it, but we just want to get the idea off, >> right? >> Yeah. I don't know. It would it might be a fun project or
>> if someone if if you have like the you've already kind of created this instruction sheet, just shoot that to me so that I when I'm talking to scouts have a little bit of a >> Oh, yeah. I just want a little bit of a a deeper knowledge of what I'm asking of them. >> That's fair. Uh I feel like uh well we
had there were some instructions in the original we made but there are many there are different ways to do it. >> Yeah I mean I can look it up that we had but that's just more why it's bad. I know it had instruction on how to take it off >> but um okay
>> if if you don't have a readily it's fine. Okay. Oh, there's other >> one side of the door hanger and then this was the other side that was hung in 2000.
>> Oh, yeah. That was about trimming. >> Making sure it was correct. >> Yeah. Trim correct. >> All right. Good. Anything on else? >> Oh, that was it. That was it for community outreach. Anybody has anything to add that they would like to see?
>> Does the education isn't on you anymore? Um, remember I was going to try to talk about that. Is that community outreach or is that something new business? >> Whatever you want. >> Education. >> Remember, we're talking about the series of talks. Oh, yeah. Educational. >> Why don't we bring that up in new business?
>> Okay. >> Uh, calendar update. Peter again. Welcome back. >> Oh, thank you. Uh I I there is really not much to talk about. So the calendar update the the idea behind this is just that we had in the past discussed just
making sure that we're kind of looking uh you know up the field to see if there's anything kind of that we want to be thinking about uh a little further out in the future. And so I've uh I've just put together a list of of items
that we kind of routinely review. So, um, you know, February, we we usually try to talk about Arbor Day tree locations. It seem for planting. It seems we've already discussed that. Um, March is uh spring resident tree buying
program. I'll wait for Jill for that. Um, and then do we have a date for Love Where You Live in uh >> Yes. Yeah. It is going to be on Sunday, April 26. Okay.
and location um working on right now. It's probably going to be 1 to 4. >> Great. >> So, we'll keep that on our radar. >> Peter, Peter, do you want to put on the counter the um presented council on March 9?
>> That's a great idea. Yeah. >> Oral for the ribbons and >> Yep. uh present to council regarding uh 250th. >> Yep. >> Great. >> It's all I have. >> Is that the same meeting we present to
council our year early plan? Y >> uh pending approval. I will reach out tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Great. Thank you, Peter. Uh tree ordinance review. >> There's So I printed out a finance
request uh for everyone the CFMP so now everyone has copy of that >> that was the executed final it's also on the burough website under shade tree so link there for everybody um and also the ordinance the clean copy of what exists
today just reference so you were talking about the hazard tree >> um yes issue >> and if you he still doesn't have any page numbers which is kind of annoying that you I say it's on page. Um so the
the tree hazard um is under exemptions which back side of the page. Is that right?
>> Yes. Okay. So, um, what we're we decided we had a problem with, right, is >> the review is the the impetus behind this is we we get the list of trees that were taken down here and it just says
every month that it just says hazard and we're questioning whether you know what the actual answer to us was. Was it the actual disease tree? What exactly is going on? Because had hazard was a very broad and nebulous thing. We like to be a little more granular if we we can. Right. >> Right. >> Yeah.
>> And then we were and we were also I mean again as Susan pointed out we don't require replacement and with all of those trees coming down because they're hazards we don't get any replacements >> or a fee. We're not paying a fee or a
replacement um for a hazard tree. Um, and since it's such a broad category, you know, I was talking to um, build crash, which I'll talk about later, but there is a new, you don't use hazard heat anymore.
There's like they don't want it called that. They want it called uh something very interesting. Um, but um, so that's kind of Increased risk is the new term for a hazard tree.
Hazard tree is a term that's frowned upon these days due to implication. The term increased risk is what is currently used to describe a tree that is assessed by an LP and recommended for removal. Yes. Um following the last meeting, I beheld
Sherry um asking her to include more notes on her permits that she sends back to me. um with those there's currently five things in the ordinance that would um be the criteria for a hazard determination. So whe it's infectious
disease or in insect infestation, dead or dying, obstruction of traffic, free passage, um causing objective damage to structures on property or is determined to be a threat to health or safety. So she is now going to add more details basically one of these categories. And
so you will see that in the permit data going forward. >> That's great. >> There haven't been any um applications yet this year, so there's no data, but the next month you'll see whatever comes to fruition >> and that will I will add that data preset.
>> So if the tree is deemed it's in the way of the drivers can't see past it, you take down does it make sense to put a tree farther back and replace that tree since it was a shade tree? I Yeah, every situation is different.
>> Yeah, >> that might be a hazard tree. It depends on, you know, your property, right? >> Right. But if you have to take a tree down for whatever reason, is it good to put them under that? >> I I mean, obviously that's that would be our stance. I don't know how that would
fly with uh council and or you know the community at large. But um that's why you know we have this fund out and our impetus to get more trees into the ground um this year. Um
>> I don't know if we can't keep up then you can't keep up with Yeah. >> What what was it? How many hazard trees came down last year? 200. What I tell you? Probably something like that. Yeah. It was like over 200 trees were taken down. That's that's like the number that we're talking >> a lot of trees. But how many trees went in the ground? We don't know with the
resident tree >> how long this >> No, talk about with the resident tree buying program and also with you know tree people just buying their own trees and putting trees in the ground. We don't know that number either. Yes, we know the number that came down but there are a lot of trees falling in the ground too.
I mean, I I think the one I personally think the one for one if if you ask a resident if this is a dead tree is a dead dying tree, you have to you have to replace it. I think that's going to be a problem. Mhm. >> If it's a tree that has to be taken down
because whatever reason they're taking it down for to >> for construction or or to put a shed there or to build, then yes, I think we have somewhat of a case. But if it's a blade diamond tree or a tree for whatever reason, I think that's a tough set. >> Yeah, I agree.
So, do we based on Sherry's expanded criteria make a new revisit the exemption? I mean, based on what she says the reason was. I mean, she's saying that I think she has used
they're they're building a new house and so it's going to cut through half of the trees root system. So, then it will become hazardous. I have heard her say that. So is that >> so should the person plant a new tree
because they're building a house >> in that case? Yes. Right. Yeah. Because they're creating the hazard, >> right? They would create. So there's the >> Yeah. >> If you create the hazard, is that is that a reasonable thing? >> Yeah, I think so. Certainly. But isn't
that also covered in when they make their permits to the town zoning? They're gonna be like, "You're gonna remove this tree. You're gonna replace it." >> Well, it's over six inches and >> Right. >> Do we um Christie, do we track
I mean, we know that they removed it. >> Is there then another column that says tree was planted? Check. Check. Check. There it is. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yep. And um it goes to code enforcement if they don't do it by a certain date,
>> right? Like I think I said last time the the window she gave them a whole year because if you take down the tree in December, she doesn't want you planting in December. So she gives you like >> a year. So and this is all with the new ordinance that was late 24. So this
we're just finished one full year. So we're just seeing >> now the enforcement started in the fall basically based on that year marker. Does that make sense? >> Um so we'll see more data to come uh with that.
Anybody else? I don't think that they >> Well, I mean, this is what we discussed uh way back in 2014 when this past because obviously it wasn't consensus, but we we we committed to, you know, reviewing this process over and over
again. Uh I think it was a good step to have uh Sherry get more specific on the reasons why these are hazards. Um and your point about creating hazards signify if they're creating a hazard that is a treat that you know that
should be replaced when we want that's kind of in our wheelhouse or what does but obviously if there are allies or situations that that we need to know about them they be apprised of them.
Anything else on the board review? Seeing there being none, uh, council go misselli is not here. So, we can move down to new business and I move on to new business. >> Yeah. We were talking about um doing
some educational programs on trees for the community. >> And so I um told you I'd seen Bill Brash to be down at Rio Library. He's the fellow that did our helped us with the community forestry management plan. Um he lives in Brehold and he
does talks on trees. Um and this it was very good. It was two residents um just kind of explaining why trees are valuable, different kind of trees, native trees and and it was very helpful and how to take care of trees. So I emailed him and I said, you know, I'm just wondering if
you do one that we could get C use with um because if we got you know continuing education then um and and by the DPW um >> do you want to tell Darl about CUS and what we need to do here? So we have um
continuing education units. So um so we can get them DBW can get them. Burrow employees, residents can get them by attending various qualified forces. >> Um so that's why I asked him if this was
one and we were always way over our requirement. I think you have you have to get eight >> by at least two different people for the year, >> right? And we usually get at least double that. I'm not 20. >> Last year we had 14.
>> Okay. Um so anyway, so I I he said he did have a course if he could teach on proper planting, pruning, and care. Um and uh that he had given it to DPWs. And so I called Nick Bensky and he was very
interested. He said, "Yeah, I think we've talked about that how our guys need to learn how to properly prune a tree. I don't think we do that a lot. like I'm learning more and more how critical pruning is for the longevity of the tree. Um so I I said to Nick, you
know, well, I mean, so we could meet at the community center, have a presentation by Bill, and then go out all those newly planted trees at the police station and all around there. He could prune some and show them, you know, why you want a main leader, why you don't want these branches going like this, why, you know, and they show them
the proper and planting and mulching and fencing. um and give them all a demonstration. Um Nick thought this was a great idea. He said the best time for them would be a lunchtime meeting, which is probably not that great for >> great for this. >> Yeah,
>> I know. But I don't do you think people I don't know about evening. I mean, we debated about this. Um >> can't be dark. >> Yeah, exactly. >> You probably want to shoot for it when it gets warmer if you want to walk around and actually see it. Also, >> yeah, >> the proper time for pruning, right? Well, so the proper time for pruning is
late February, March, early March. And um Bill said that early March worked for him. April's very busy for him because he's planting and doing all these valuations and he working on a couple of the new forest things, too. Um so I was thinking maybe like that second
week of March if we could do um and get the DPW on board. I mean, I think it'd be great to have them all properly trained and get all those CEUs and then if you know, hopefully some of us could go. I think people in the natural area committee blue because they're always
planting trees. >> They want to get DPW for a lunchtime thing would be ideal, right? >> But that's the only time they can do it. They can't do it at night. >> Yeah, exactly. So, that would be great to get them if you if your goal is to get DPW trained, then I think is ideal. And if you provide a lunch, even better.
>> Well, right. I mean, yeah, definitely could. Um, >> so I don't know what you think about that. If you think it's, you know, getting Nick seemed very interested. Um, I think if we are trying to set the example, the shade tree commission and
our town for the proper way to take care of trees, then this is a good thing to do. Um, I mean, I know I just planted a bunch of trees in the bird sanctuary with a couple of young DPW guys. And I don't know that they don't I don't think
several of them knew that you want to make sure the crown of the tree you don't you don't plant too deep where you kill it. So, um, like that was that's a critical thing, right? So, I just thought it would be good to do this. Um, and if anybody else can make it, I think you'd learn a whole lot from Bill and
and I mean we could do something else at night or on a weekend. >> I mean, I mean, you could do it again, but I think >> maybe we could do something at least. I don't know. Bill would work on, you know, >> but I think your idea about doing something right around improper proving time with DPW at launch would be a great fresh start. And then if we want to
expand it to residents at night, perhaps we could do something. >> We could invite Rumson and Little Silver and and um anybody could come. >> Yeah. um the EC because the environmental commission is is trying to run this series of educational and they're working with Rumson um which is that
brochure that's on the table up there. >> Um the Rumson EC and the Rumson Garden Club are sponsoring this uh sustainable landscaping talk with this really >> really well-known well- reggarded um fellow from Princeton. Um, so I also
told Nick about that for the that's at 11 o'clock on January 20th. So the de >> that good point. Yeah, I I just need to check on that. >> I can check on it. >> Um, yeah, because that would be great, too. Um,
that's just this guy. uh I can't remember the um park he runs in Princeton, but he's very into sustainable practices and doing the right thing doing the parks. And so um so anyway, if you agree that that is
good the I think maybe um we could split this environmental pollution because it's like an educational thing for everybody. Bill said that an hour presentation and that includes his travel time would be 25. I mean he doesn't charge us a lot. So
>> I don't know if we want to >> approve. Oh and lunch. We have lunch. Well I make sandwiches on that. >> Um >> how many I was going to say how many there? Well unless all these towns and everybody might think about this but it's called a bag lunch. Bring your bag lunch.
>> Well so is this during their lunch hour? We should provide them lunch. Yes. Lunch hour. >> Yes. Yes. Okay. So, we could do that. So, um you could use this as like a tester with the DPW and Bill and then any resident would want to come. But if it's, you
know, if it works out well, we can always do it again. >> Yeah. >> Um and um are you making a proposal? I am making a proposal that we um and we would need I guess to allocate
>> up to $200 to like we're going to split those possible. >> Well, I thought we should offer to do that and um they don't get a community money and they don't get much burrow money either. Environmental commission like doesn't
get anyway. I'm just saying there's a um and so for a bill and for lunch just you know kind of >> so approximate budget >> well if they don't want to be part of it then we have to cover the entire cost probably talking325
$300 for pizza >> 25 for him >> okay so do we want to can we prove up to that to that >> can we can we do that I suppose your proposal >> my proposal so do we want to that I think a date um or I get a date with
Nick and um Bill Brash the week of March 8th. Um that's not our school holiday. I've checked that already. Um and it'll be a noon meeting um for an hour or so with um demonstrations and a budget of
300%. >> I said that. >> Okay. So I'll >> all in favor >> opposed. >> Good passes.
>> Yeah. Yeah, that'll be good. >> So um CEOs um we need 14 as a commission. >> Eight as a commission and >> no eight in town. >> So it could be it could be a resident.
Go ahead. Okay. >> There's also an opportunity um every year to be core trained, which is a a very um intense tree training class that's offered by Ruckers in the state. Um and information will probably come out in February. If you're interested in doing that, that would be covered by she
budget. >> I did that. Um >> I teach them to engineers for HBA. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. So I did that. I keep me, you know, do you need my certificate or do I just keep >> No, you you are on the >> right
>> the mothership uh certificate. So >> um but I did all mine I I can't really get to Ruckers. That's actually happened. So but uh I did mine all online and it was great. I loved it. >> Um so >> I did mine online too. It was >> during I did mine
>> and I think it cost the town like what $30 >> $30. So they also have it at the and um Peter the New Jersey Shade Tree Federation Conference should be on the calendar too. That's October 22nd and 23rd, >> right?
>> Because that also offers the training if somebody wanted to do it there. >> And that's the New Jersey Shade Tree >> Federation Conference. >> Got it. Thank you.
any other new business. >> Um the preceding USA in Arbor, the other umbrella of mothership. Um all the annual reports are due like February 10th. So we're not well there'll be a meeting before us chair. I may reach out to people randomly if there's questions
that you guys can help out with. >> Um, did you get you got a report from Carolyn, right? >> I asked her for one. >> Okay. >> But um has a bunch of trees because you're collecting from all the different groups.
>> Yes. So if you hear from me Thanks. >> Okay. Okay. So to review our old business, uh we're tasked with identifying some locations for trees. That's includes the natural area and area fields also in the public right away. Um hopefully Sherry will identify
some trees that are 200 to 250 years old at least uh and come back with us at the next meeting so that we can move forward with that process. Um hopefully Becky will be here for the next meeting and we could talk about you know other ways to
create some swag which is um coord you know copacetic with the town and Peter is going to look at another potential tree uh cherry tree giveaway winner um in the next year maybe even two.
Um Leah is going to talk about um getting potentially another project going with the ivy removal of trees and um and then we just passed Bonnie's idea about the educational series which I
think is great. Any other new business? And that's that's what we're test for for our next meeting. um >> and public participation. >> Not tonight. >> Not tonight.
>> No. >> Anyone online? >> No one online. >> One thing um ideas for lovely birthday. That's That's perfect. We're still kind of in new business. So, people think
about ideas about where you live today. >> Last year we did copper mulching. We've done ivy removal. Um before then, we gave away some trees. So, anyway. >> Okay. Think about it.
>> Do you want me to add Arbor Day to the agenda for February? Yeah, that's a good idea. I mean, you know, you meet once a month, but you know, these these dates come quickly. That's why we really need to get going on projects because it's get the best of us. >> Um, I kind of like the idea maybe
pivoting, but you know, we could talk about it further, pivoting with the the celebration of our 250th anniversary, creating the tree location rather than doing posters, but we can always do both perhaps.
patriotic poster. >> Yeah. That's it's good. >> Trees and patriotism. >> The whole show uh George Washington sites >> down trees. >> No, no, >> no. No, I meant like that's what you
always say that like the Salem supposedly that met you know now that was um >> I don't know there were always important meetings under these big trees and that's what >> okay look good motion to adjurnn second
>> good meeting now then oh the elephant the gorilla in the room we have the uh we have the vote Of course. >> Of course. >> Yes. Oh, yeah. >> The big vote, big election next meeting, too. >> Okay. >> Good problem to have that we have an election
>> postate debate. >> Take care everyone. Have a good night. >> Bye, Peter. >> I like case on a shutdown.