>> Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the first ever. Fairfax County School Board Community Advisory Committee summit for those who are not aware every year for many,
many years, the school board has received reports from its advisory committees at work Sessions in the last 2 years, the board's undertaking a
process of refining our approach with the community advisory committees and that included creating the summit's. And so today we'll be having summits with 4 of our committees and having a
group luncheon in between so that members can commune with board members and staff and get to know each other you know, continue their important
work together. Other changes that are worth noting, as we're receiving these reports from our committees are the process that reports are
responded to has changed as well. So after the report is submitted to the school board, the school division will respond to the committee as
follows first, they'll be a written response. The staff liaison in coordination with the school board liaison during the year. The report was prepared, shall submit a written response and a plan of
action to the committee and the school board no later than the end of the 1st quarter of the next school year. So we will be expecting that for this committee before the end of the next the 1st quarter of
next school year. The state there will be a committee update where the staff liaison Shell update the committee on any progress at its December January meeting following the
report's submissions. So next December, January, this committee and other committees should expect a report back from staff on anything that progressed. There will also be
a board update. The school board liaison will stay in regular contact with the staff liaison and update the school board on progress toward achieving the report's recommendations. And there
will be ongoing tracking. With the staff liaison being responsible for maintaining an ongoing record of actions taken in response to report
recommendations broken down by year and follow-up shall be reviewed with the committee during the second and 3rd or 3rd quarter of each school year. So in the latter half of
every school year, they'll be an opportunity to review progress to date on these reports. One of the reasons that we took this approach was that there were concerns over many years that the reports
would come into the board. They might get a written response. But then the committee's work sure of what would happen after that. So now we have a clear feedback cycle from staff and board and
committee to monitor this important and I'm going to hand it over to Dr Anderson, for our first committee today. And appreciate everybody being here, my colleagues who will
be joining us throughout the morning and not only leaders of these committees, but also the membership or here joining us as well, Dr Anderson.
>> All right. Good morning. Thank you so much. Just the kind piggy back on what Mr. Fresh said. I'm very excited about the new process because I know there's been
frustration, sense our time on the board from both committee members and board members regarding what happens after this year-long work. And in some committees, maybe 2 years
comes before us and the perceived lack of action. We've had committees who year-over-year have made. The same recommendation because there has been very little
response to it. And so we want to be sure that we are honoring your time and your work because this is a significant investment that you're making to support our community and effects county
public schools. So ensuring that there is a clear and timely feedback loop, I think does the work of recognizing your efforts so very excited for this new development. I
also would like to introduce mind. I >> I'm sorry. That's right.
>> I would also like to introduce our representatives from the Ace Committee, the Adult Community Education Advisory Committee, which I've had the pleasure of being it's
liaison for 4 years now. believe. >> It's been a very longstanding relationship. So without any further ado, I will introduce you all. And I know that you also will be
sharing who is not in the room and the rationale. Why so? I will turn that over to you. Looking forward to hearing your presentation as things
put placed on the screen. >> All right. Thank I'm Brian Force the vice chair of that
Ace AC Advisory Committee. So we as you can see on the screen, we had planned for myself. We had planned for
myself and Sebastian House key to do the presentation. Sebastian is not able to be with us today. So so just be me. During the during the
presentation. Before we get started, I did want to on behalf of the committee, want to thank the school board for this idea of the summit and
allowing all of us to get together and interact with them with the school board members. We thought it's a great idea. There's actually 4
other people from the committee that are in the audience, Darcy Payton, how and Susan. ♪
And of course, Paul Steiner's here. So plenty of people to talk If you have an opportunity you get more
information about a stunning. All right. First Khalid Hazard
is our our committee chair. Unfortunately see because of previously scheduled travel commitment. Can't be here today. I know she was actually
are pretty disappointed when that's when the schedule came out. And you know, this conflict with evident so but anyways, should a senator
regrets under greetings on the board and everybody else here? sir. Also want to thank Karen Williams, who is the staff
liaison. She also couldn't be here today, Palestine or rest of the staff I thought we had
a great Staff incredibly helpful. We had lots you know, lots it. folks coming in to the committee meetings and
doing briefings. So so I enjoyed the the year working on the committee. We take the
time to go and perform assessment of the past recommendations back to 2017 just to get an idea there are
several members on the committee today. this year or so. We did do this assessment and I did want to point out
that. Based on the assessment we saw that many of the recommendations that have been made were acted upon by the
staff of the school board. And and worked on and closed. So based on that and you know, our experience this year, just
like to say that that I think that there's the committee thinks that there's a really good solid working relationship between the
advisory committee and and the staff. So. Let's the rest of the slide is just the subcommittees. And then
subcommittees. We were to give just a brief introduction view what the committee kind
advocates for. So there's 3 compo nuns that we've dealing with this year. One is the
adult and community education organization. Turns out that.
But he says one of the non. Non collegiate education and training providers in the country. Or provides Kirk and
ensuring. And learning fcps students. Fcps graduates and the larger Fairfax community.
And of course, with some of the online no ice reaches beyond Fairfax County. What
they provide is skill, tree apprenticeship. So these are things plumbing, HP a C.
Electrical construction courses. provide business and it courses things like
accounting bookkeeping. Wedding planning is in there. Programming classes, networking system, administration, those type of
it services. There's health and medical, which includes things like Mt. Nurse, Dental
Medical Pharmacy, veterinary aid, course, is physical therapist phlebotomy things of that nature. There's also the adult enrichment, which is
culinary classes, literary arts classes. Mind body wellness classes. And then
driver education behind the wheel program. And approximately 9100 registrations per year can
give you an idea of the size it's not necessarily students. Students could be registered for more than one class during the year. second component is
that you saw him. And so that is English learning for focusing on employee readiness
digital literacy. The do the teaches to 6 proficiency levels and there about 1400 students per term. And
finally, the 3rd part is the Fairfax County Adult High School. And so there's 2 tracks here. One is the
diploma track which allows students didn't graduate and the normal time period and option too, to do that. Get
supplement actual diploma. And then there's the high school equivalency track. Which focuses on adult basic
education and then GED test prep. And so there's about 850 students per year in that. you
know, high school program. All right. Just quickly, we're very excited about the slide.
This is the new website. This was actually started as a recommendation from the committee in 2022 to replace
the legacy system, the school board agreed provided some one-time funding to make this happen. The staff went out.
Around a vendor got a contract in place. And this website and is operational currently
operational just came this past this year. Not all of Not all of the courses are on there yet, it is up taking and
taking her just re shuns. >> And we are mark migrating to that course with the sea are cute. We are migrating to the new website with seasonality, of course, is
obviously a lot of our courses operate on a semester schedule. And so we will have more courses added as we go into summer and then fall semesters.
>> All right. So this is this is going to be a big tool for A's moving forward it is it's quite a step up from the old
legacy system. We hope they'll be a lot of data analytics that will be able to be performed now. So that these
can better understand what the students needs so we'll we'll see this little more in one of
the recommendations. >> All right. Our our charge this year was to explore how. >> To create greater integration between AIDS
programs K through 12 system and the broader Fairfax community focusing on career and technical education to create a greater pipeline of
students and A's. All right. Our response to that basically. The first step in
this would be to we think, to create. And improved connectivity between ace and
and Fcps the in the adult community. You know, sometimes 80's, maybe this thing off to
the side everybody knows what what's going on there. So so the focus of of the working recommendations is to create
greater conductivity into fcps some of the areas that we could benefit 8 from a son that he's could benefit From
being better connected into. So the rest of the presentation is going to be the recommendations. So again,
we have this new Web site in plays, and we think that there's a much more detailed way connect with the student
community. And so what we want to do and our recommendation. First recommendation here is to develop a strategic
business plan for focusing on marketing technology communications. Also to make
sure that it's aligned with the fcps Strategic plan. So they are thinking right there's several focus areas of
this plan, B, 2 modernize marketing and communications. That does. And to leverage
some data-driven insights from the new website to help guide our marketing communications
effort. The tool itself is is big. And so there's there's a lot of learning. I think it's going to go on along with
using it. So part of the plan will be how to optimize technology and the and the website going forward. Thank
God that will be able to do some resource planning and stool might help out with budgeting. The plan also
envisions performance tracking of some key metrics also it's going to feed the marketing
campaigns that I think ISIS is going to be doing in the future. Your ace already has a my contract with company
called R. For marketing support. with the new tool and plays our and are going to be
launching some new marketing plans here. Coming up. What are requested action here is basically of the school board.
requesting that. Whatever assistance is needed can be provided. So that East can get hooked up with the Department of Strategy Planning and
learning to collaborate on this plan. All right. Our next
recommendation. Is. It is an economic model study. I mean, everybody here knows that investing in education can
bring very substantial economic and social benefits to the community. We want to
We think it's a good idea is to actually do a formal economic study of how connects with the Fairfax County
community. And how the community benefits. So we would like to try to quantify
economic impact. Ace producing what they produce right. More high school graduates improved English language. Speakers,
apprenticeships and then And also take a look at the ripple effects as a result you know,
the increased education levels At the we would really like to be able to present to the
school board very in depth. Assessment of Vincent. How important he says to the Fairfax community. Requested
action of the school board hears just to endorse the idea of the study. The staff is ready to. You know, figure out. What it what it would like to see in the study and
to figure out ways to to obtain study. Alright, next.
So as we've seen with course of social media, short form videos are a good way to connect with with today's student population. And so our
recommendation here is to. Spend some time and create more promotional videos, highlighting east programs and
offerings and then get these videos distributed to the Fairfax County community. This is, of course, an attempt to
directly connect ace with the with FCPS students and and also the adult community students. The hope would be to
get people's attention get them to get to the website looking at what's what's available? Again, we think
that are will be helpful. In this endeavor To get communications rolling and how to how to reach out to target
audience. Here are requested. Action is for the a E staff to connect with Fcps Office of Communications to coordinate
video production and distribution. All right. So the videos our east
communicating to its target audience. We would like to see two-way connection develop. Well, I should say develop, but to a connection, be him
more improved between east and the student population. So we would like to hear from the student population. And the
idea here is to not develop electronic survey and get that out to Fcps junior and senior high students and their
parents and guardians. Try to get better connected and get a better understanding of what some of the students are thinking and what they believe
their needs are with respect to continuing education. For for this our action requested
action. Is for a nice to get assistance from Fcps staff to help develop the identified
population and conduct the actual serving. And our last
recommendation. What we think would be very helpful. Is to increase the awareness of
these programs and offerings by getting staff directly connected to certain Fcps. Personnel. So I know that me
personally being on the committee this year. had a lot of people come in from the various programs and give us presentations and talk about,
you know what they what they offer and what they know what they're part this organization is and so it would be great
if. Certain fcps personnel could get those same briefings. could be connected to to staff the way that
committee was. And so the recommendation here. Is for the staff to establish
recurring streamlined method for a large-scale communication. program to to the staff. And particularly we
would be targeting the fcps personnel that provide guidance to fcps high school students, guidance counselors
and anybody else that. Talks to the fcps students and then it's going to provide suggestions, mentoring,
guidance on what to do once they graduate. I requested action. Here is that. That the
staff develop communications plan and coordinate with fcps to to facilitate this large-scale communications. Now. You know, the staff does
this a smaller scale. Paul and his team will go out the high schools and talk about. About So so there is that connection
already. We want see at a larger scale and be able to get. Get people together and
be able to have program. People talk to talk to the folks that will be talking to the high school students. All
right. So that concludes the presentation. We did make this presentation intentionally short so that there would be time for questions. For your
attention. >> Thank you very much, I see some profits have gone up and before we start calling on colleagues too, to talk, I do
want to bring attention to Page 11 of the full report where you provided the Cross walk across recommendations from starting 2017. That's very helpful in terms
providing some grounding in some context, aces journey in this advisory role over the last many years. So thank you for doing that work. I know it
was quite a bit of an undertaking and we will start with Mister McCAbe. >> Wonderful. Thank you. And thank you for the presentation for being Despite the
challenge he had getting other folks here. So there is a lot of comment discussion of marketing, which I think over the years he's been a we spent
hours at this work table discussing that one thing that did not appear and the presentation was the booklet. Can you get it? Which is, you know, the mailer right? Can
you give us a status update on and where that stands? >> So >> the we call it the catalog. Okay. And it's a catalog
because it has listing of proud of courses and when they meet its very specific. Currently, we're producing what I would call a brochure, which is higher level. And
actually in interactions with committee and discussion resources we're pursuing a brochure with the assistance of communications. And that
actually helps my staff out. it's an excellent resource that we can when communications able to assist us with this. So we will have a smaller, bro. Sure that has
published soon and that when I say publish, that's going to be local going out with some within fcps and other government and to tease that
we can easily deliver 2 and also. Going out to customers where we have their address on the database so that we would call that a subscription model. The larger catalog. And
is expensive to publish and we are looking at our expenses and how many times a year is it worth it to publish that
catalog 5 years we would publish 4 times a year. And I I I found the publishing 4 times. You actually drove our business and it and it wasn't a good business model because
if I'm a senior that's graduating and I'm interest in electrical courses. 5 years ago, I would tell you what, look for cattle on. That's going to come to you that August and we've changed our
business model where courses for the fall and the summer are available now. You can register now. There's no waiting. So the new website is helping us do that. But with
the expense of the catalog. We're just looking at how many times a year we published. I do anticipate publishing in the fall because that catalog
has the biggest effect, an impact and also society. I think get into August and September. A lot of individuals are thinking about going back to school. And so I
do believe move forward that have a full publication in the fall and then possibly another publication Let's say, and the first semester in second
semester. So winner is what we would call that. But we are looking at op. Options for print media. We know that print media works on numerous
levels, but the catalog that goes out to every home in Fairfax is great. It's expensive, but it's great. How many times you do we do that? Do we convert to a subscription base model for
students that have taken our classes within the past 3 years. The park's catalog has a system that is more of a subscription based. System where it's someone who's
taking a class in the last 3 years. So we're looking at all those options, but we will be producing. Print media in the future. And I would like to
produce a full catalog that goes out to all of Fairfax in the fall. Great. Well, I appreciate going through all of that. I like the idea of
the brochure. >> I do think, you know, and we've had this discussion many times over many years and you will be the best judge of this. But the catalog is, you know, it's expensive. It's a
big undertaking to mail it to everyone you know, I would like to see us move more in the direction of sending the brochure to everyone. But
that's just Just to save, save costs and point people to the new which is great. The second and I just sat on the marketing point that I
strongly endorse the use of videos and social media to get the word out. I think as you know, that's right. Where community is. Secondly, the connectivity piece, which this
recommendation, I think that's great. I think there are classes courses and our schools that our community would love to take that. We don't offer through race and I
don't think we primarily tied to the academies. Things like fashion marketing music composition, technical theater, auto tech. I don't want to accept that some
incorporate into ace, but I think when people are exposed when the broader community is exposed to what our schools actually offer, I think there'd be a lot of interest
in kind of sex here programs, right, that the bases and sexy as it is. But I would love that that to be part of this
conversation. Thank you, Mr. McElveen, Mr. Fresh. Thank you. I'm going pick up a little bit where Mr. McAfee left off about the catalog.
>> I think a lot of work has been done to minimize. I like to go even further on minimizing the use. The catalog if only because technology makes it so much easier to reach people at a
fraction of the cost. Today, for example, if somebody visits the ace website. We could be remarketing to those people so that when they
leave, they're getting ads for or the program that they were looking at ace. Right. If they're looking at a certain class on the website, that class should follow them the same way that the sneakers I
looked at on Amazon, follow me for the rest of my life you know, if somebody is on the e-mail list or the mailing list because they've subscribed those people are
also reachable through anonymized digital advertising. about how much do we spend collectively in a calendar year on the catalog itself, production staff time
mailing, etc. I thank you for your question on your first point of marketing that follows. You have visit the site. >> The good news is the new
website. >> We have an add-on which we are still learning. We're working with our marketing company on that in our our marketing team. We're learning the system, but we will have
that type technology in place where if you look at a course plumbing, you'll get a follow-up advertisement or follow-up email on Planning. So we have we have that in the
works. my my staff is just got to learn it. And you know, we want everything now, but we got to go through and make sure that we do it correctly. So we are working on that and we're very excited about that
in the future. As far as the large catalog that goes out to every home Fairfax. Generally
costs between 110, $250,000, a pop in printing and distribution. And the staff time for design. Is that done in-house?
>> The staff time is it is done in-house. And It takes one staff person. I would say a month to assemble everything, maybe a little bit
less that staff person is doing some other. You know, they supporting other course. Other. Administrative items
that are coming together in the office. And as we publish 2 courses. Yeah, I would say I it's going to take about one
staff person amount of time. We also, you know, it is a team approach. There are some things that are done. Program specialist will obviously Curie courses. Highlight different things, make
recommendations, provide media via Canada and other things. But I would say in a month for our staff person is a fair estimate. >> here's why still thing we want to mail something. I agree with Ryan that we should
be mailing the pamphlet or the brochure because it is a mechanism for getting them to come to the website to get pick sold for Remarketing so that we can follow them around and you know, encourage them softly to sign up for the
classes. The other thing I would say is that if you go back and look at 5 years of Class Register, Inc, you should be able to build pretty good demographic profiles of the types of people who are interested in the things that we offer by what they're
interested in. And then you should be able to do digital advertising well below the budget of $150,000 a year targeting people who have not signed up for classes with information about the classes
that their demographics seem to indicate they might be interested in. So there's, you know, I we have made a big shift over the last 5 years and how we approach the marketing of this. And I think
there's still a lot of room for stepping into, you know, the way that marketing typically happens today. That doesn't include the catalog rate. One person gets a catalog to throw it away.
That's the last contact they get until the next catalog versus they get the brochure. They go to the website now we're serving them ads encouraging them to sign up or
we are following them based on the likelihood that they would sign up. I do have a couple questions about the broader report. Recommendations on the three-year execution plan to
specific milestones or deliverables that you'd like to see for the strategic plan that for marketing technology
and communications. >> Other than the focus areas that I talked about, nothing further than But that would certainly be part of putting
the plan together. >> And then on the economic model study, are there any outcomes that you're looking for for the study? It strikes me as something probably
inspired this idea. Is it modeled after something else that you've seen elsewhere or that the committee seen elsewhere?
>> really what inspired the idea was just and everybody knows that he says providing goods a good us, but we don't
know. We don't know how good it is. And you know that quite frankly, the thought was, well, people knew better with the economic impact was that
might be helpful in, you know, budgeting. Thoughts going forward for So that's really what with the inspiration is
you know, there no ha Lee had been. They've been in communication with with a couple people about. You know what, what this study could
be. I mean, yeah, there's going to for our buck. I mean, is important, particularly with people talking about this budget frequently, right? >> The last thing I want to leave you with, I know quite a
bit about digital advertising. And when we talk about needing to do something on a specific platform or missing the mark, it isn't about being on social media isn't about the size of the video or what have you.
It's about reaching the audience wherever they happen to be regardless of the medium, regardless of the venue. So it shouldn't be thought of as we need social media at snow. We need to ads that reach people where they
are regardless of where they're going. It isn't a 30nd video or a 15 0nd video. It is whatever content is suitable for the platform that they're consuming on happy to return
to go. I don't want you, but I appreciate it. Thank you for your work, Mr. Moon. >> I think and act this and I think it was a presentation
and I want call doctor and their son's comment about. Hawaii. Information with me to priority ownership and sand.
We what one does recommend. very helpful. I'm to see that. I think I saw something similar known in all gone by Jake Committee support as
well, which as many as a as a longtime board member. I so appreciate that. And following some of the comments and
questions to account unlock some brochure reaching out to right to I feeling some the
generational gap between myself and my younger colleagues on the board that I really look forward to getting and east, if you know, even if he's a once a year at that.
can earn up because that you minds what I wanted to do some of the question that that I forgot to register for. And I had interest in, you know,
number of have to some questions res and I. You know, I went through that is that I'm going to I think that's my preferred doing it. And I may not be the only one in the
community. community gets on that in order to 9 all even we've folks. probably much my
set tech savvy I am about to me, all others who may prefer to free patients. So keep that in mind. Rochell Wise poll shows a good idea and I was
thinking about whether we can work with county PA par 3 Think we want pay to where we can put. I want our brochure
or Bush or and to save some money. Why not? It's by U.S. money and then and then just provides input information without QR code right so that
they lead to law. Let's yes, we do currently they provide us. I believe a half page or a quarter of a page we provide half page. >> And a quarter page but it's
just an advertisement. It does not get into anything specific. It does have a QR. So we currently do that the
catalog that goes out with parks. >> And was tender law can brush was you want to? But I think this will to purposes trying to reach the Democrats want to reach and continue. My
goodness, but or sharing information with the community about what do for being so even for those who might not have thought about, you
knowning being educated, know things. Could get interesting in doing so. So it's not just repeat customers, but Duke customers that we might want
to into. I know I'm warning of time here. And have you get into aces puts it whether to sentence needing and because
number of ago was run over them he issues with the says Census Programs or
>> didn't look too much budgeting this year. I know that that has come up in the
past. I think there an audit done in 2018 by By Fairfax
County, the the organization. So there a I think all right, that the result of that audit
was that there was there's no expectation at that point that the that the organization be self-sustaining I do know that
some of the grant money comes in from. Like the adult education family literacy. I don't know. They have programs
that are that are funded. And grant money comes in through there. And I think also integrated English language and civics education program.
grant money comes in through there. The for those for race to be able to get those grants, though there has to be
matching funding, you know, from the local district. So. You know, if ace went completely self-sustaining, then, know, to be a double. Yeah. And you know no,
transfer from school operating fund. But then they also would not be able to get you know, the grant money from those 2 programs. >> Thank you. I'm out of time.
Thank you for your service and >> Thank you, Mr. Moon. same time coming. Thank you. Thank you for this presentation. >> I kind along with Mr.
Moran, I enjoy getting the catalog looking at And I'm going to one of the things that he said is that everybody knows a says providing a good service. But my question.
>> That I think where kind of dancing around here is does everybody know about I know that I have also taken these courses and taken what I guess
you would call the adult enrichment courses. I've seen that those of declined in the catalog. And I know that I did know one teacher in that part
of it faces compensation. Can you address that? In terms of teacher compensation?
>> Our teachers, we do work to make sure that they are compensated. Along Fcps guidelines with the pay bands that are outlined by human
resources and we want to make sure that they are compensated well so that they are happy and that Willing to come back and either share their professional knowledge and
skill or share their passion in an enrichment course bring that to others. So it is something that we are constantly looking at. You know, post-covid the amount of
in person. Classes and really it's the amount of in-person teachers we've struggled with that finding someone who is willing to come in and share their passion or share their
professional knowledge with the with students that are interested. So we are working to build back. We have hired more teachers and enrichment
in apprenticeship and business. And it we are frequently recruiting. We have. Positions posted currently on the Human
resources website under. Other professional opportunities. And then we also we take resumes through jobs at Fcps that e U so we will look at
that compensation. I want to make sure that our teachers are compensated. Well I have not gotten any feedback for individuals that have. You
know, left or they're considering leaving because of compensation. But like I said, we do want to make sure that they are compensated. Well and our pay bands will receive a
the increase that will come July one. And so our teachers will also. You know, feel the effects of that in terms of their compensation.
>> So in terms of what is that percentage of the adult enrichment programming? >> Vs. >> And what I'm talking about, I'm not talking about well,
what is the percentage of the adult? Enrichment type of programming dino? What would you characterize as adult enrichment?
>> What what I'm getting at is there are people like Mr. Mundine that would be sitting at home that knew nothing Scott. The cattle hog and said, oh, wow, this is great. Cooking course. Always wanted
to learn how to, you know. Cook Italian food in a teaching talent at the same time. So there's a kind programs I'm talking about. >> In terms of the overall
percentage I would be able to. I don't have that information quickly. Easily accessible. In terms of enrollment. I can I
can tell via my spreadsheet here, it's going to take me a minute to bring it up. I can tell you what we had in terms
of enrollments for enrichment. >> Which we have had some discussion during the year on.
The effect of COVID and I'm a nice and we wouldn't. It seems like one of the issues that he
says facing now is just that COVID hads. Really? Decimated some its the virtual, you know, the verge. You know, everything went virtual and
people started to say, oh, you know, I can do this. I can do this online. All right, Dan, I mean, if you go out online and there is there's a bazillion
cooking classes that that you can take in people you know, will show ya cup again. So I think that. I think just the
idea of be able to do things virtually now. Vs before COVID. been an impact course
registrations and to give you >> To give you the numbers. And a fiscal year last year we had about 1200 enrollments
adult enrichment courses. This includes on culinary you know, other courses needing things like that. And then also are for an unsigned course is our language courses. Those are
under our Richmond category. So at the end of fiscal year, 24, we had About 1200. >> So I didn't want well, I'm
just gonna make one comment about this. In terms of those adult enrichment programs and how we're talking about people getting to know it and maybe marketing to senior living communities like Green I know
I could get you guys to come in to speak to Green Springs, the Greensburg community, my district, and they would be all over it. >> they know that online is available. But sometimes with
this office is building community. And I think that a lot of communities, a lot of people are looking for that. And that's the added benefit. Been a move on your
recommendation. 5 to increase awareness with certain staff in fcps. What staff personnel have you identified that? is that you would like to
strengthen? >> Well, the one comes mind Bryan, your microphone, please. When it comes
immediately to mind would be the guidance counselors. Paul, when you go out to visit high schools, you know, who are the ones that you can
>> I still believe the career and the Quarry office was also part of that discussion as well as the counselors. >> So we work with college and career counselor college and
high school levels. Bob Sargent is our ace outreach specialist and he has a very good relationship with college and career counselors we also work with student counselors a
lot, obviously because know that having one-on-one conversations with students in addition to the carjacker counselors. And I think the area that we've maybe want to
work into was just increase awareness to get into. Let's say the discussions between teachers and students. Just increasing the awareness because I'm not in front of
the student. That might be a potential, a student. And so I want to do my best to spread the message to CPS, teacher. Or counselor that is going to
have that one-on-one discussion with that students on the students says I'm interested in. teacher or the career counselor and student
counselor says, you know what, I have this information here. Alright, I have a presentation coming up for Mr. Sargeant, Mr. Steiner. I think you should come to that. So that's that's really I would say our
next level is the teachers. And then also on. Pretty well-known in the high schools. I think we are working the middle school is also where those discussions
on Kerr opportunities are happening. Also. So I would like to suggest that you broaden your scope and include include counties on Francisco,
but it's not just student. >> To student union, because personal to students also up as personnel to families because a lot of those families could benefit from it and they have the language
capabilities to deal with those families. Which brings me to my next question, how much of this information is available in our 7 major languages.
>> So we do work with the translation office. I freak. We get calls from them when they have a parent or student that need something translated
but the good news is the new website does have. The translation capabilities. So that should be easily accessed in different languages. then
we do have. Items go out. We often look at making sure that they are in multiple languages and and language acessible or we on. Provide the information
to find the. Translation services to assist with that. Thank you. I would recommend that you get in touch with family and school partnerships because a lot of your family liaisons could get this
message out to families. >> Where you would have parents that can take advantage of this programming as well as their students
thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Miss Saint John cutting Mystics it. Thank
you the presentation of. It's it's a really good work for the community. But I sometimes think about the placement here.
>> We are K 12 education, right? Most oversee the gate or 2. Some students too. the committee name itself is Dalton Community Education's.
I feel like. It's coming from Fairfax County Public School. maybe the right message needs to be communicated to get
Moradi Audi and Syfy like maybe for a sitting under Fairfax County government. It would be. >> More. >> More of appropriate place
for this committee. This work. I shuns the committee, but I just want to ask that did a lot, of course, is their night. He and business and I those of a interesting I
looked at the opportunities available for sign-ups, but a lot of people like everybody saying that people don't know about them. And I was wondering if we are
communicating to our high school students and I this is one of your recommendations. But like CTE, I'll be doing any direct interface with the
CD students enrolled right now. >> Yes, we are. I work closely with my A C t. Partners. I'm a former CTE teacher and
administrator. So we communicate very well. Several of Our ace instructors are also CTE, teachers. So
teachers the high school during the day will teach the adult students in the evening. I would actually say that's like the best connection because that really help spread the word. But we are working to make more and more
inroads with our CTE students because we find students that have been in CTE Class, one Academy class. date. They have a heightened awareness. understand. So if they go through it, a dental
technician program in the Academy. They have an awareness that we offer for We offer EKG or we offer EMT and that we're all so easily
accessible. So we've made some really good inroads with CTE, but we're always working to make more and improve. >> Yeah, maybe is not going to the parents. meant to say like
the students and the parents because I my son was the Academy C D program, but he he did the cybersecurity course
and got the certification for them from the Gandhi. Get me. But he did not know. I guess it was maybe didn't look up
that he could do for that. His certification coming to Now he's in knots, 18 year-old, but I know there's of a blur to do it and they can still participate. Soul. I think
there is a missed opportunity there, even though probably it's going to CTE Department. But going directly to the I guess, and the families of the
students. Hey, you know, going scores. But after this course, even if there's no other course in Fcps. But a scan, you know, offer you those courses like that. Messaging
is It was not given to us at the East. think I was saying looking at the new site was looking green. Interesting and just thought and there's a socially job. But it is a way
to add a chat bot for like a com looking for this Courson. You some of new like generative AI features stool and has that expedient self on
finding the right course for them. And I could somebody says I have done this course can just what should be next course. And that feature no, it's not. Easy. But there are
a lot advances in technologies happened last few years said begin utilize that. >> So we are looking at a chat feature. I would like to add
that feature just because in in terms of the marketplace, I bought my last iPhone via chat from Verizon. So I know how powerful that is. And then we
staff members that and that chat bot during the day from 9 to 5. And so I would like to add that we're just learning
the system question the medallion, how we can do that operate within fcps policy and make that happen. But I do think that that is something that we can. Bring to bear on
the market place very soon. I really would like to do that. And so along with wearing the website, adding all these new features. That is one of the items we would like to add and
provide as a as a service to the community. And that's great. >> courses edition and it says Section would be great. Also,
too, and has that. for this, I really impressed with the work doing here. Thank you. Thank Thank Mark said I'll go ahead and take my turn. It appears that given the comments that
have been provided by the board. >> This was the right charge because we continue to need to expand the reach of a Santa, also articulate to the community. The things students
participated in that our ace. As a parent, I did not know that the summer when a student takes the summer financial literacy course online that submitted stirred by ace. I didn't learn this until my own
child went through it. >> Behind the wheel opportunities a lot. There's a lot of connections, but it's kind of mask and it's not
clear says involved in some of those activities that impact students directly. One of the things that I wanted to add regarding Saint John Cummings,
comments and questions about compensation. I do know that Missus, Solomon worked with many of the teachers who are not fcps teachers in the past year because they were very
distraught with not having the opportunity for benefits. these are folks who essentially almost they carry what would be considered a full-time load. And so that has has impact. And I know
there's been some creative solutions to address the short-term, but in the long term, that will continue to be an issue because not all of not all of the safe. Ace and
structures are teachers throughout the day. So I I want to be sure that that place in this conversation as well as the compensation whenever there's an increase
Reed, a quick question regarding the schoology access because I find it a little odd that they would not be able to at least just play some things there for students to be able
to to see that's available. The same with that we do for CTE. Yes, ma'am. I think we can take care of that. Outstanding. So it is now at
11 17, let's say 5 minutes. Just so we could some transition, I believe you'll see is next. Thank you all for
coming and thank some embers
in the audience. So 11. 25.
Board members, please return
to your seats.
>> All right. Mister Chair were set resume. we could, please come back to order. Everybody, we'd like to get
started. So we need to keep it down.
>> All right. For those just joining as I said at the top of our first session, doing things a little differently. This year. Thanks to our new
community Advisory operating manual. As you know, we used to have work sessions in the evening during the week for these conversations typically attended by just the chair and another person from the
committee for the presentations. And now we are doing the summit's where we invite everybody from the committee not only to present, but then also to fellowship with us over lunch in between
Sessions so we can continue to have the conversation partner together as a reminder, we have a new process for the
disposition of reports from committees. Now the committees will receive the staff liaison in coordination with the school board liaison during the year. The report was prepared will submit a written
response and plan of action to the committee and school board. No later than the end of the 1st quarter of the next school year. So that's the end of the next quarter of next school year. And then. The
staff liaison Shell update the committee on any progress that it's December or January meeting following the report's submission. So next December January, the committee should be getting a report back from
staff on where things stand. Based on this report. The school board liaison will stay in regular contact with the staff liaison and update the school board on progress toward achieving the report's
recommendations. planning for those recommendations. And then finally, the staff liaison will provide ongoing tracking. It will be responsible for maintaining record of actions taken in
response to the report. Recommendations broken up by year. This follow-up shall be reviewed with the committee during the second or 3rd quarter of each school year.
And those measures were put in place to address a longstanding room for growth critique of our committee process where it was felt that
reports would be created, offered with recommendations and then there wouldn't be a clear path checking in on those recommendations where stand. So with that, I will turn it over to Miss Saint
John Cutting, who is our liaison to M S AFC coming. >> So thank you. First of all, I want to the minority student
Achievement Oversight Committee that I used to know is am saying it is I'm not sure how many times the name has I was. >> Remember a long time ago as a community member and I
believe this is one of our longest lasting advisory committees. So I know that the work you're doing important project and vital to our
community. I really appreciate all the work you have to get us to this point. So without further ado, I'm just going to
turn it over want to really take just a personal point of privilege and thank Mr. Kenny, Wait for serving as my representative. He was going
to retire. And I was able to convince him to really appreciate and I'll turn it over right now, too. The
co-chairs Mr. De Metts Craig and the Snow Sun. >> This mean I think it's morning yesterday. Dre school
board members. Thank you for having us again. Thank you for taking weekend time. Something new and something different to better outcomes that and to
the participation. I'm going just quickly let the ladies introduce themselves. I am this era of one of the co-chairs this year. This is the way in He works is we have 2 co-chairs a second. You're co-chair for Co-chair and a
chair and waiting tradition is you can imagine we've we don't have a department. So it's kind of really impossible for one person to know everything
that are charged Tuesday entails. But yes, with that said the second you're co-chair and when the privilege, I'm just going back to Mr, meaning Mr. Mckelvie
has always knew before. When I first started with seats. So I don't know became families address down way. Lot. And so
with that said that pass it over to the 80's to my right. >> Good morning. My name is Kia, Craig and I am a co-chair George and I disagree. George,
you know, about 9 tenths of everything very well informed. Good morning, everybody. And thank you all for being here with us today. >> Good morning, everybody.
I'm Julie Anns and I think and then you be of this environment. And when I was nominated as the culture training, I didn't expect to on there to speak to. Ceci can
impressive group of people that actually supported my children's education through and through. Thank you for the she did. >> And with that, sir, before
I started on with our slide presentation and I knew what mentioned. Appreciate your time here today and help last 2 with the same token that to I know we're hungry. I know we
have time limits today, but hopefully our time does get truncated for a presentation that our community is working on for the whole year. Just like every other advisory committee. But with that said, I also like to start with the
most important thing that we always do. membership can't. We can't do that with that. The people in the room on a monthly basis it would be to go around group of folks,
Pacino who is with us. If your school board member representative for amendment
if you could please stand up. With that the next group. Is there a community representative organization,
folks, if you can if you could stand up. And I'm one of the 2. And last not least by far
is our staff representative of we've always a divisive C can take it. Collaboration with all 3 parts. We've always wanted to come to the board, not giving false data false
conclusions. But at the same time, not repetitive work. But our staff represent you guys can stand up. And with that
said, we'll get to the meat of our. I in our student representative in that and I know you shouldn't do this,
but the person who will be standing up. He's been 2 years. He's awesome. And it's you can
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Charge for this year's on the slide above. This is no surprise to you all. This is. Similar charges last Last year is more the first year that planned this year is obviously
where the accountability peace there. With that we envisioned. But you can read on the screen head and and I think this also geared up by
no coincidence with the SEC did with their recommendations of the goals. Right? So kudos to that to the system is looking from not just adults it inside. So with that said
if passed crank. >> Good morning again. We focused we will be focusing our subcommittee work and this subcommittee for Pillar, a
focusing on learning environment. They looked at social and emotional learning also known as SCL. We Love a good acronym and it's fundamental as it is
fundamental to the learning process. And CEO of the social emotional learning screener survey data for elementary students shows a significant
gap regarding student sense of belonging Self-management. Relationship skills and other spl areas for multi-lingual and for black students. So to
ensure positive climate positive school, climate and a diverse population. We must elevate student voice to identify the steps that must be taken to create optimal learning environment for each
student. By establishing strong social and emotional well-being. Ys schools can then develop stronger academic, socially, active and confident learners who are
college and career ready. The MSA OC found that many fcps elementary schools do not currently have curriculum or framework in place. And so we
recommend that the chief academic office implements a standardized K through 6 as SEAL program curriculum. Next.
Also for Hillary. Part of social emotional learning is promoting a sense of belonging in the school. So the SCL screener data for students in middle school and high school show similar gaps and
belonging and other areas measured for black students and multilingual learners. Including students leadership opportunities adds to the sense of feeling included in a school, especially for
students from minority ice groups. While leadership opportunities for middle and high school students may seem to be abundant. We found that they are inconsistent across
schools. They may not be accessible to all students and do not necessarily elevate student voice. An agency. As a result, the see recommends
that the chief of schools collaborate with the chief academic office to expand secondary leadership opportunities. Next up, as Nelson will now continue with
killer >> So if you notice Biller a closed tweet, you shape up or tuna teas. And that was really central point we focused really be. And we were very
lucky to have a student representative being the lead of this pillar and from his experience in from all the data were able to collect, we build these recommendations.
So data from the 2024 Fairfax, you'd survey showed that declining access to leadership opportunity effects students interest along with our ability to be vocal and active
citizens in our community in trying to find data on student leadership. We realized that there was no standardized framework allowing to capture data sets essentials, to assess and provide insight
into opportunities presented to students. There is a real need for consistency across schools in need or ship of richie's for minority students. If you don't see leaders like yourself, you
don't think you can take leadership roles if we need We need to see the data and the stories behind the data to encourage more students for an from underrepresented groups.
For reason. We recommend that the office of the Chief of Schools develop a system was the the collection tool as a baseline to eyes and identify crucial access and equity
gaps. Now transitioning to our recommendation. 4. All right. The ship against student focus, student leadership opportunities. Students,
leadership, experiences, cultivate critical communication decisions, making an advocacy skills contributing to the long-term academic and career success.
When marginalized students are excluded from these opportunities, it reinforces existing disparities in access to power representation and most importantly, it shuts
down voices within the school system and the young. The division's Reddick Implementation programs create systemic barriers for marginalized students to
participate in key areas such as transportation time of the an accurate dissemination of interpretation services. The Lewis leadership program stands out as the shining
example of how to provide outreach to underserved students and develop leadership skills. This program, which was designed jointly by students, school
staff and community members serves as a model of student voice and agency learning. We recommend that the chief of schools collaborate with the
chief academic office to develop a curriculum for all schools to foster leadership skills and to create more programs like the Lewis Leadership program at additional schools. This audio
back to the next recommendation. 4 pillar see focus on workforce. More
specifically focusing on staff retention. >> Study show the diverse and inclusive learning environments, boost student engagement and outcomes. Staff also benefit from diverse
working environment. Fcps has succeeded. Ed really this year in recruiting diverse employees and most peer groups for which Fcps collects data, specifically Asian, black or
African-American, Hispanic or Latino. The percentage of active employees in these categories have increased. However, the news on teacher
retention in these historically underrepresented communities isn't as encouraging. While we're hiring teachers from diverse communities. Those teachers aren't staying. To better understand the picture of
staff or tension. We evaluated. Existing data. On peer group demographics who's being hired, who's leaving associations and affinity
groups contribute to employees sense of belonging and also understanding and addressing the educational needs of students from similar backgrounds. So when speaking with these groups, we found that some teachers may leave
because of school environments that do not feel safe or responsive. Nor they reliably value and support staff voices and feedback. So to improve
working conditions for staff from mine or ties groups. We recommend enhanced collaboration. And resource sharing between human resources and the chief equity
office. This collaboration could work to resolve workplace issues. Expand professional, learning on cultural competence, outreach to underrepresented groups and
full support for affinity groups and associations. Additionally. The monthly
separation reports for both fiscal year 2024 fiscal year 2025. black Hispanic or Latino group peer groups left Fcps at disproportionately higher
rates. These reports did not show specific staff roles. We do have a Kate for a chart to disaggregate the data so that we can get at the cause of these employees leaving at
higher rates. We also know that it is vitally important for students to see teachers who reflect their diversity and the diversity of their communities. There are many
school base leadership roles that a teacher, my take on which provide opportunities for leadership development and create jobs. Satisfaction. However, these roles are designated at the school level
and there is not currently a process to collect the data on who is offered these roles. example would be a department
at secondary schools. 14 lead the see recommends that HR creates and implements a process to find out who gets
the school level opportunities for leadership. Pillar D George. >> Yes, but as a state that
actions and accountability before mention these recommendations. I forgot to mention earlier that this is probably our mission Putin pulling in terms of the
environment. We live in misses is encouraging the route that the system and Dr Reid is going with this area of equity. Hard conversations.
But at the same time, he has another 42 to speak. What our community wants with that said, the recommendations for this year for this pillar are pretty straightforward for the
different part. 2 different recommendations. They see the first ones is where they do it. Well, terms of participation for getting out one for students. Hispanic and
African-Americans to get the parties participate, patient rate higher me to get these kids in judgment by 8th grade. With that said also is not
just the participation, but also in subsequent years is also the success. Just not who's participating. But how are they doing is just not check the box, especially with the system going Dr Reid
saying in the future for algebra 2 and high school, if we're already at reaching out for the goal to trick. In high school for record for graduation. We're not even
done with Drew one piece and that still has to be accomplished. But applaud the effort where the wants to go in the next few years. this
the second one has to do with an outreach in terms maybe the communication shop with their families on Ths with her. And this is the parent handbook is to our communities. If you
know about information as one of our members put galvanize area and how to proceed forward. with that, that's all
right. our of our presentation. But in terms of like to thank some folks said earlier, 2 other prisoners. I think we're blessed to get him
Dr Region than your leadership team. switching liaison says the board voted several years ago where the only advisory committee with team members should team members in that,
for many years. But morning near 15 years, Dr Presidio. And the and and DR King and the chief equity officer. As
our superintendent he's with that said. Our presenters this year. They're here in the room or maybe listening this Mr.
Solomon, Mr. Maskey, Arsenio at Qantas. It came twice. We listen to you, Dr. Read about presenting go forward. We added that to order into our
agenda and to have them back. really him in. And Dr Murray you know, the impact of Deborah March. Obviously, folks from academy. So you can
mention there were some of the recommendations came from. before I move on say to 2, thanks to into the drains, the
community, Ms Lady, if she's To Mr. Men into Mr. Mckelvie near condolences the passing of Jeannie Strauss. terms of
how this lady for us personally, great to talk our conversations reminded always agree, but appreciated the effort and for our membership
mistresses. One who put duty Howard on a visit see. Hard conversations, but she was willing to. But a person who was apparent minority employee
on him as a se. You're going to get more entrenched into the system with the roles and Mr. Chen step back. She pointed to her husband. So in
terms of our membership, that's how how much she made those hard decisions lot of people like to know a lot of one when Fairfax to success, which continued policy team is
the she was one of the first school board members assigned. they're not Cove IX, too. So with Kathy 100 super educated.
so we appreciate she's done to some of her things. One being not fully understand you're recognized further down the road. Sure. So from a slate, if you can send that back to
your community, really do appreciate her life in celebration what you've done on this Earth. Thank you. And we're here for some questions.
Thank you so much for that recognition. >> First Mr. Mr. Kyle just
replied, Good. It's it's beautiful. Daughter >> I told of I said she's the model board member because she's being quiet and she just coloring models will board
member the question going back to the staff, retention. So wouldn't well think peace get some feedback from HR about. I just kind of assumed that when we did separation, we're
looking at data and I would think that, you know, demographic data will part of that. So can we use get some response to Absolutely. No, that's a really good The
employee separation report shows employee composition. >> And employee separations as a total. But as part of the recommendation that MS AFC shared it currently does not
disaggregate separations by job category. So thank a teacher, assistant principal, principal, etc. And then further, it doesn't show that desegregation So that's part of the challenge. It shows a
total total and in some of those different employee categories, we may have higher representation. Okay. So. Can we do that? Can we drill down
farther? It sounds like that's what they're asking for. not only can we is still a tee drilling down further with this data like the
recommendation We absolutely can. And I think it starts by looking at the composition by subgroups. On other words, all of the different job categories that we have. Teachers, counselors,
assistant principals, and then looking at that by subgroup in terms of how many active employees there are, and then yes, we can look at separations, right? Thank you.
And had something to that. Do my question to you, we're going to miss that. This coming. so sorry. I that
something should so in on that recommendation, Mister Solomon said Michigan, you as you point out, which I don't want to be lost in the conversation here is. >> The reason we're asking for this. It's how you because
your bench, how are you? How is this state is not being collected it a minute for not bad or good reasons when a school makes a decision who is the lead at that school? Those
are things HR has never collected, not no mountain tense, but that ensure the question of how we're building that bench. retain. How's our system do with biases,
discrimination and gender. And that's I think the heart of about request in a shirt. Mr.
Fresh. And thank you for all the work that went into this. steer clear of some of the workforce. Questions that I might normally have, because I
think we might want to share this with our collective bargaining partners and see how their membership wants to advocate. And some of it. Obviously, I agree with Mr. McDaniel there certain things that we should probably be
tracking because it'll be informative of hiring practices and outreach efforts and everything else. appreciate. >> That being brought up. I think that's a and essential
seemingly easy fix in terms of leadership programs and this is this is I think in this year's report, the thing that
interests me most. What barriers do you see for? Underrepresented students participating leadership at
the secondary level. And thinking about what can change for next year, even though we're at the end of this year. How can we address that in a way that impacts next year? I
don't think it's feasible necessarily that we're going to stand offshoot of Luis Academy at the school or that school in 3 months or whatever. But if we're
noticing a lack of representation in our student leadership programs of area schools, what can we be doing immediately? What communication can be had with
staff to begin addressing that. Now for next year. >> What we strongly realize was the fact that the data
that we had available was like, you know, though showing that a lot of students wear it current to be not identifying. Their environment. And
therefore, if you don't which meantime and you will not feel comfortable then mission to lead it. And so at this point.
Focusing on language behind leadership opportunities that don't speak to. Acknowledge, hey, come to this program because you're a leader. But
more come to this program to becoming the year and focusing on gets you. So, you know, recommendations really core aspects that will be useful to then be on just their academic
timeline. Program management. gives you the ability to take the situation from a to B and really encompasses a skill that will cover the year and that will make them
comfortable outside of the school system. So which the narrative more from come to this program, if you're the year. In to come to this,
prevented coming year. And to grow the crucial skills we identified as components for it. Does that answer your question? >> I mean, it does in part,
you know, if you continue to do the same things that you've always done, you'll always get the same results. And if we continue to talk about things we've always talked about them, things will change either. Right. So I I think
that that's accurate. That in order to communicate to the right people. You have to communicate in a way that they're going to hear you and feel like they're welcome as well. So I appreciate that. And in the private world, I've
seen that in the way that people hire right like the way that one presents a job description. If you're not getting the pool of talent that you're looking for, then you're not presenting in a way that's going to achieve that
talent pool. The same thing applies here. So I appreciate that recommendation and something I'll be watching for staff to follow up on. Lets
see here. might be it for me. For now. might have a go Thank >> Thank you. And I'm going to
go to Mr. and that's why I couldn't think of Mr. McDaniel Kuz had the TE Maxx right next to each. >> And I wanted to say Mackall read it. I knew it wasn't back. Will be that your turn,
Medical be thank you so much. And thank George, for my son. That You know, it's colossal certainly being felt in many ways >> her support of Co MSA OC over the years with us
certainly pronounced. So thank you for that. Turning to the point Mr. Fresh left often, you know, the school this
year. As you are aware, his. Rebirth that our student leadership development program. And George, I know you're very familiar with that program because your son was
in the first class back in 2012 freight. So it's all kind comfort full circle. And one of the things that you know we had, I think and Kevin, it's not here can correct me. I think we had more than 100
applicants to that. program just just shows that there is. A strong-arm our students to have kind of that leadership experience. And one of the things as police ACS that I
think at least 2 thirds of our participants are people of color this year. So and that's that's traditionally been the case. So anyway, that's just one additional leadership opportunity out there. But I
do want to kind of probe you a little bit on how you want additional school-based leadership opportunities to look like. Obviously, we say
Csg a class, a office. Some schools have principle. advisory council type positions. I don't think all schools have leadership
classes. My my concern with leadership classes has always been that, you know, we don't have enough space in Our schedules as students, too, to fit that in this and
additional elective in what often happens is you they end up housing, the students who are ready and leadership. You know, class, a office and whatnot. So are we looking at
something like 8 period, TJ, where, you know, you just open up an opportunity for more people to participate. I know you've mentioned leadership Academy obviously that was
established with a specific purpose, specific geographic area with a specific namesake and I don't obviously there requires central office
support and things like that. So anyway, just raise all that try and get a better sense of what you're looking for. And it question. I you kind of.
Clan Stover with issues, though. Inventory where we're at now. >> You've been around and you know this area very well. I
think we have a baseline. What is the composition of A C? t a? talked leadership. In school system. See where we're at at the same time. It's all
siloed. talk to you know, Stu lead here. Surely here. still some thunder from my daughter. Why isn't there a student Congress conference every year
we get leaders, different groups, 2 leaders to come in. They could be religious groups community groups. They can be the Human Rights Commission at the county. Right. All these things come together. Everyone has their thing. Lewis
Academy, right? As one. Area program has worked there. But in terms your question answer that question with Mr. Frisch's question Emaar
question was what can we do now? One thing is overall our recommendation be the curriculum. To make that SGA
class leadership class at a school more structured. It isn't just you just come there and you want your 1000 events or you come to school this
year. SGA to next level with superintendents to advisory council continue could be done. There is just Dr Review. Done a great job with your family vision Group. Was that intentionality is I am not
getting the parents at the ptsa meeting. Now the next step is maybe to extend it to your students to each school. The 24 high school daughter needed schools. And forget
them is to >> intentionality what composition you want here? Because meteorologist said, I think that stuck out when we
had our conversations between a report is it is in recognition of the student leaders that you get, maybe the focus should be develop a nurse 2 years. And I think
that's what the loose academy intrinsically does. But that work everywhere has to be within that community. Understand you. So to your answer, what that's the overall goal as a cricket,
more structure, more focused when tension alley, like until the Board of Supervisors. When you do a committee, a task force don't sign at the same folks that the community come up with a group of let them be question who they represent
the community. Then elected leaders. can choose. They really knows the community. Demographics. So that that's one aspect. But it's it's not
anything. overnight. Well, you George, thank you for that. And I think I would love absolutely love to see a survey of, you know, what actually exists in every school. Just so we know what
we're working right. >> And the other the last at is just, you know, anecdotally and you know, this isn't this is not a bad thing. I think it's a success. It's a success
story. But if you look county, why did our SG a SEC class office? They they have become very heavily And that's and,
you know, you go to graduations. You see it's all phenom class officers, which is a great thing. But I do worry our young men as well. So we want to make sure that we have that gender diversity
as well. >> One last point one thing that the subcommittee did to state is >> the realities multilingual
language learners and special education students to not see those opportunities, see that they become leaders. So I don't want to just with the recommendations that a general
overview C that specific community says if they don't feel that have going call daughter Ian. >> shipment today to Dr Rees
boundary and she said this in a fun way. But it's it's her reality. And she says it's my place here today. Let that
sink win. She from her eyes who's here? From a region of the county that knows also and
it's not be represented there. >> I would like to see his back to the recommendation. The first one really speaks to the lack of data. You can not find your data points if you
don't have a framework and a framework at this stage can be very like, you know, light and and I'll say forgiving and then gradually as the process refines and we get more data
than we can do a little more targeting and then with can really zone into the years. >> But for starting point, it was really surprising not to
find any data and from my world when you have noted that speaks well into what you're missing. So it's actually louder and in perspective and we get very excited to have
this effort. But we're lucky to already have a model that we can look see big funding, create that framework and see what the key points week,
which are key points. We can start collecting data from build and grow students with.
>> Thank Must accept. >> She was shoes. >> Okay. Thank you so much. It was a very good presentation.
It be like all the stations, mate and I just want you know, make sure that we follow through these things, right. Like that's really Looks good on paper but actually infect.
Gotta do you much are we doing it? And that's something I would like to take. See the city from anything coming from advisory committees. But the follow and take action items
on that. So I like all you have separated the each office responsible for each of the suggestions and that would be something Dr. Reid, again, you know, look at and and just
take up specific department do kind of see the implementation. But I did understand why did ship is important as myself as a
person of color? I have some time. I don't see as myself that I have a seat at the table. I could be the Weis and just knowing that even do after doing business for so
many years and and doing a lot of things and still did not think I deserve the school board office. So this is video. >> So for a student says he'll
also I just want to say that. It just makes me emotional Okay. We'll.
>> We'll take a break from the $0.6 misrach I'm Miss ice. I swore followed by Mister Man. Thank you. And I just want to
pick up my colleague left off with. >> Very people, gray, well educated women of color. And I never saw any leader who look like me. There was I never saw
South Asian leader. I think it's very sad, actually, that it took 2 2020 and held for Asian American woman on the school board. And that was me now with a second. Like I think it's really sad
statement. You in our county. And I think it's a so I'm just gonna put that out there. And I think that what Mystic's event, there's an empowerment
and there's a you belong here. Part of that, you know, when you're teaching leadership, right? I think it's even stepping back and saying we're going to teach you how to be a
leader. Also like so from day one that we believe you all are leaders and should be leaders and should because if you don't see yourself reflected. I will tell you, I learned that I could do this
in 5th Gray, but it was never encourage after that one. My teacher had to save the whales campaign. Seriously. We all wrote letters and thinking, wow, I know I could save a
whale. Right? like that's a little bit of empowerment of what you can do something. But it's never say you should go run or you should go be a leader because it's just not
seen. And so I think it's a really important point. So I want to make a couple points around. I love the idea to lose academy, but but also what can we do now? So the first time come came to my
mind is middle school. Right? Because Mr. McLean's, right. There's a lot of pressure on classes and the high school level. But middle school seemed like the perfect breeding ground for that leadership right there.
Learning to be teens and young adults anyway because you make that elementary to middle school. We haven't middle school after school program for at least another year. And I think that'll be a great
place to embed. We've talked about speech and debate, right? Debra placed in bed, leadership, empowerment, leadership skills, how to be leaders and then when they're going into high school, they've already kind of been
exposed to that. And we have 8th grade civics. And what a great unit or section of 8th grade civics to talk about how to be a leader. Talk about seeing yourself reflected in
your leaders and all the things. So if you have like, you know, a multi pronged at middle school as a starting point about says ending point between the after school program and the civics class.
I think that's I would recommend putting our efforts around the Sprong, not that there are other places, of course. But I think as a starting point, that's what I would love to see. I also I
agree with you, the SGA class. I in fact. It's some schools. They almost tell you can't be in sj for not in the leadership class, which I think is really problematic for students who, for whatever
reason, may not have an extra class period at our special Ed students are multilingual students, right? That's a huge burial and they are taking other class is really not encouraged to be in that class. I don't think you
should be a barrier to being SGA by having to take a class. I think that's a real problem. To perfectly in the class isn't good, but that barrier should not be there. So those are the 2 things I have more. But and my last 10 seconds. I
really appreciate all your hard work in your time. Thank you for this report. And quickly come. >> Mystic's you that you feel.
I think right, Mr. Me and know me for a while. I get emotional. What I found this year our subcommittees. The
theme of our students said. see ourselves as leaders. Ed was the staff side. How can
get up here? If you do program, other parts of society says Weirich really
separate the for them. Time that we're We demolish I'm speaking nothing new here. Did
Mr? View that a cage for this. Every asking every year. So numbers just about numbers. It's also people. So we see a student's now current student
feeling that you see us tackling that. That's our society right now. That's just realities on a personal note.
When I first started here. We think 2 to talk to. Maybe this is home. There is no Hispanic. And advocated for the board of supervisor for some years. Who
did I turn to? Kathy Hutchins? Because the hours I get out
reached. Thank you for sharing that. >> Mr. So you like to continue? >> Yeah, I just want continue
in the same track I think leadership opportunity. It's really in our schools. And I I feel like a portal for graduate is basically kind composite all that. I was
recently at the school read the of English. He saw students, women doing pox presentation. was affecting middle school. >> And and they learn credible. They would hit every
aspect off bogs. >> Different pillars and doctor Blix communicators of collaborators and I just saw that the leadership quality
building into them naturally as as a part of that. So I just know that there are opportunities exist. We just have to use them more and more, especially 90's. All
plazas muddy losses and also the student should be of poor have and that he just bought some parts and student, some storms are not true. Leaders. They do noid but they have
that that spark and them teacher does that the best person to fees see that spark and maybe say, you know, the student can go to, you know,
other the leadership, it committee something at the school level. And I just I know there are a soup is doing really good job that the building that confidence in
students, but it has to be across the board and on our schools. So but I was inspired to see that was happening in our schools. Thank you. And
able to say shark tank was also one of things I saw and this bill so much confidence in students pitching their business. Ideas are any ideas it doesn't have to go to full
circle like starting a business. But then the coming of together an idea and pitching it to the and that was another thing I frankly, I'm in a school that students are doing that in this city
class and doing business presentation to their fellow students and the teachers in and out. So great work is happening. And and just impressed to see that. But I
do understand that it doesn't go to every school student of our schools. So we need what
to do. Thank you. Speaking year, we all realize, I think, you know, there's a lot of leaders, but the ones we see are the ones are able to take that, even speak out and show
it. So when you mention, know what, middle school the opportunity give them the opportunity to learn how to speak up, to understand that he you have an accent, but you can still be heard. >> Because that is what
refrains a lot of folks from when you hear leadership, you will be speaking representing being in front of people and that is the piece to shut down each and every time because they feel they look for me to
speak. Funny. And that is why this year the to was so crucial. It's rooted You have so many really in students, but it's only the one that
been able to be. that E and speak out that you will see and say, oh, he's a leader to so many untold leaders. So maybe the campaign should be. Bring out your So.
>> Just at that from a guy with the nexen, >> Thank you for that, Mr.
>> I think you and I do not want take a Houston the you many years quarter century. I
remember it. You bet. Your suit. You look to to 5 years morning on the streets you
talked about the the dealership leadership is not just. Student government. local government, state
government I need see it. 10 or so that leadership opportunities for everybody and should be equally happy to programs. We have with Hep C P
S so in addition the bomb, but he And not having opportunity step up. They And encourage.
To step up. 0, 1, of the program's nine-member which I find quite a moving loss. The
one particular high scorer Programs Curry's into ease from like 2 then went You know, a lot of times you do you do. You should school
through Leticia nuns additions for New and pray. Use where to look race. You just starting turn your chances. Are you
passing? addition is going veto. doesn't mean that particular student that to not have gift one tournament. should. One and 2. Just then
happens to be a Ice to speak fun to do. And expect even have the 50 that this is my 5th. The first year living in
the U.S.. Why couldn't he create more opportunities for those? But one on especially students. So they could or so
You know, just like. students I was going to talk about as well. One bought by I'm spending my time on this one because we've been 7 board
members were talking about this now and what I want as by And let me ask this question, Mr. Musharraf. beat us 20 something the board discussed.
I should clean not when you talk about Corps. As one of students. To take byte. Pete,
Great. And you ask a new recommendation. 70's identifying We are than 75%. that's that's a plus. With
stent give it to >> Sure. If you start focusing putting students. 2 were won
by young. If you just focus on exclusive may be too late and they you're gonna start from are going to preparing students to be bright to be able to take a higher level
math when get score by 8th grade. Just when you have your thoughts and comments >> yeah, I'm I'm sorry. It was
more talking generally these I said that. But it's obviously as you are, I consider graduate students through this had to as Yes, obviously it starts to entry. How do you
ran that up? How do you get the Pre-K year early education and to the identification process may look good education process and then.
Ramping up, you know, on. You know, here. Your strategies. One of his are obviously for our parents. That was one of our recommendations 100, get them in But just like you
said, it has to start elementary years. But that's where the analysis come. I can give you the example we were
there the other day. you mentioned participate, participation rate. All right, that that. So what they're doing. I don't know if that's the answer, least it's a
start. But was 85%? And so that's I can say on terms of education size strategy I would say maybe start there is a base and I'm not an
statistician by trade. your question on
>> So I I will take a turn and personal. This is an emotional issue. It was an emotional issue. 33 years ago. >> 60 years ago now, 100 years
ago. And it said that it still is and I really respect and admire the work of this committee. Because we do talk a lot about data, which is
critical. But there's a lot of heart in this committee to because these committee members feel with her students feel. And we know that
academics. Critical bit of a student doesn't feel comfortable. That in and of itself is a personal barrier. And if they're not feeling comfortable because of who
they are, because there other for whatever reason, that's something we have to address. So. I'm going as the learning
environment, new recommendations there and ask you how would you foresee that being implemented in the schools? Your recommendations,
both for elementary. You're talking about establishing a curriculum. Both that is consistent. But how would you foresee that being implemented? Thank goodness.
We have support the room to address that. We have members from that subcommittee.
>> And you can step up mic.
Pillar and
>> It's been my Thank you, Mr. >> I'm going to from or through this because the U.S. this means. So I'm going to
say we owe you a little bit more granularity on this. started you know, have been the curriculum. That's what we
we ask for. And I'm not sure if we can. Do it for every you know how broadly we can do it. But what we asked for was to
do implement the curriculum. Once we have implemented a curriculum. We asked that we develop the metrics track and I'm hoping and serene, you
know, you know, question, but it starts to meet with implementing the curriculum because we found that the air there's a lack curriculum. So
I'm hoping point with what us but I'm going to we owe you more because Jason? Is subject
matter. Expert. I came on committee to from them, the others. I knew what this one, but the what they have forgotten it comes to trying to learn. But you start with
the curriculum you know, track it, does we? We implemented and see holds. tat about
sunshine coming up You're going. Thank you. Good
afternoon. We focused on the elementary school level, you know, as a secondary middle school principal. >> We very much wanted consider for future years. The secondary level but principal concerns from middle school in
from high school is fitting time wise. We already feel like they're such Great Commandments are finding it really difficult to get through that. time you know,
the country. so we have. So we said, OK, let's focus on a stronger foundation at the elementary school levels now, but we definitely want to consider in future years in the committee, looking at middle school and high school,
we recognize as growth points. So we'd love to partner with any of our, you know, teams to see how we could more strategically do that to ensure that our students are
receiving that could kill >> To Chad, that also is reason put the recommendation is think this is nothing new to you all as a body. Now it's
a matter of fact of choosing it and moving forward. But >> And board members, please
return to your seats.
Board members, please return to your seats. As a reminder >> we're doing things a little
differently this year. So we have the summit's now. >> With the launch of between so that can get to know each other share ideas more. We're reminding for every session
that we have a different way of processing the annual reports now after they presented to the board, the staff liaison in coordination with the school board liaison during the other report was prepared, will submit a
written response and a plan of action to the committee and the school board. No later than the end of the 1st quarter of the next school year. And the staff liaison. update the committee on any
progress at its December or January meeting following the report submission. So next December, January, the school board liaison will stay in regular contact with the staff liaison and update the school board on progress toward
achieving the reports. Recommendations are making progress on them. And the staff liaison shall be responsible for maintaining an ongoing record of actions
taken in response to the report. Recommendations broken out by year. The follow-up shall be reviewed with the committee during the second or 3rd quarter of each school
year. And this was in an effort to close the loop that we were in with many committees where we would receive detailed reports and recommendations and then there might be a response from staff
and that would leave it there. And we've have any follow through or finishing of that cycle. So we're hopeful this will great the change. We're all looking for with that. I'll turn it over to Mister
Dunn. Well, I am so pleased to be here on this beautiful Saturday and AF Pak for all of his hard work this year. Like to introduce.
>> Katie the chair and and the vice chair. >> Thank you so much for having us this afternoon. Again, my name is Katie
Hermann I and the chair of the Facilities Planning Advisory Council or Pak. And I'm joined here today by Kathy who say who is the F pack vice chair and the Mount Vernon District
Representative. As always, we are thankful for your invitation to come and share our work from the past year with you all. We've had a busy year and we're looking forward
to sharing our highlights with you all here. I'm going try to get through the slides because we're on the post lunch slump.
So bear with me for a for a few minutes here. And then obviously we look forward to the question answer. portion of the meeting. So for our
agenda. We're going to reintroduce to Peck members and then we'll remind you of how our annual report is organized this year. then we'll discuss items that we
researched to our annual charge and discuss the resulting recommendations. And then at the end, Willie, we can chat about our annual charge for next year. Here is
a list of or 13 members. Hopefully you've had a chance to meet with your designated of pack member this year. But if you haven't. I hope you find some time maybe over the
summer to reconnect with your. With your member and have some helpful conversations. So the
organization of our report includes an executive summary and list of our 17 recommendations for the school board's consideration. And then the majority of our
report is focused on the summary of our meetings, the meetings that we had throughout the year outreach that we observed or were part
of. a summary of our membership and some suggestions for our next year. A memo, topics or annual charge. And then the meat
report is actually a memo for each of I'm sorry in the appendix, we have a memo for each of our topic areas to be researched over the last year.
So this was our annual charge for this year's report. As you've heard from other committees, this is our guiding Light for the year of topics that we researched
beakers that we invited to our meetings. Pack decided in the fall to focus on particular details of these topics based on feedback from our speakers at our meetings or feedback
received during CPD see meetings, all of our topics except for the updates to the F charter had a goal of identifying additional ways. Fcps could save money during
school renovation or new construction projects. With the current climate of the local economy being what it is, it seemed to us to be a good idea to focus on this
component for these topics. For the next few slides. I've listed the recommendations pact has for the school board for our topic areas. But I'm
not going to read through them individually. However, I will summarize them each for each slide. So for our first memo,
topic was actually a revision of portions RF captured or so this item was identified by AF Pak at the end of last year when we were here this time
last year, the concept behind this was a a realization kept them sort of pact could better serve the school board by delivering recommendations and information in different
intervals in order to be more responsive. Which we felt would would be better than us holding information until the end of the year to share with the school board, providing
various members to the school board throughout the school year can provide more up to date information regarding topics that are current that are current and of interest to
the school board. pack also took the opportunity to review the list of matters with within the purview of Pak for studying the charter, which is also discussed across several
Pak meetings and pack finalize the proposed edits to the charter in February for the board's comment consideration. After a recent governance
committee meeting in spring of Pack was instructed that we should migrate from having to second 2 separate documents, a charter and bylaws to just a set of bylaws. packed plans to
transfer the proposed information in the memo included in our report to the charter. sorry from the charter to the bylaws in this
upcoming fall. So another memo topic we had was the construction of cost reduction strategies. So we tackled this
topic with the premise of and that the existing school board policy 80 to 80, 80 to 58 recommends a 20 to 25 years cycle of Maine. Major
renovations. This aligns with industry best practices and is consistent with that pack recommendations as the bonds supplied funds remain static and construction costs
continue to increase both due to market increases and how construction projects are planned and executed. The current time between major renovations has increased to
41 years. This creates significant pressure to reduce the cost of school construction with the goal of complying with policy. 85 28 and providing the world class
schools that fcps strives for. With almost 200 schools fcps essentially needs to renovate 10 schools per year in order to keep up with policy. 82 58.
With construction costs needing to be reduced by at least 30 million per project with all of this information and Mind of PAC focused her research on the possible renovations strategies that could help achieve this
reduction. They're listed here on this slide related to prioritizing boundary adjustments and pilot to
consider a few approaches for swing spaces that could help save money and time. Our next
memo topic comes from some direction from back in January when CDC requested park prepare a memo to provide additional analysis and input
to the school board due to the newness of Fcps is interest in the complexity of P 3 alternative construction finance methods. Prior to making a decision by the board
on this topic. So pack was asked review a cost benefit analysis study that was prepared by an outside consultant and then also staff's response and of pack found that the P 3 study
provided an excellent spring-fed board to further staff and the school board work on the use of P threes as an additional tool to address
items like the length school renovation timelines and the growing backlog of capital maintenance needs during a time of increasing construction and financing.
Costs like staff's finding in this study of taxis that the P 3 study. As only starting point and notes, significant resources must be invested
upfront to fully explore multiple facets of P threes prior to moving forward with this financing mechanism. For
memo, we group to recommendations into 3 buckets near-term intermediate and long-term recommendation actions. The first 2 recommendations on the screen are recommended to occur within the first 6 months of
an agreement to start going down the path of the P 3 procurement plot process items. 3, 4, are in a media actions which can be done
within one year. And then items 5, 6 on the screen. A recommended actions for beyond one year in the future. memo also includes many more details on interim actions
that could be taken to achieve. What you're seeing on the slide. One through 6 there. Another memo topic. We
had focusing on proposed changes to the fcps policy. 82 40 regarding construction maintenance services bids contracts, ponds, and conflict
of interest. This topic was of interest to f packed because of the other related discussions and the research ongoing related to P 3 per tournament. And other
construction costs recommending reduction strategies. Our 2 recommendations for this policy or that pack have an opportunity to review the redline version of the policy and provide input to it. And
if this is interest to the board. We also recommend that higher consultant that could help assist with developing new procurement purse
processees strategies for implementation. All righty. This is our last won our last
memo. Topic is related permitting strategies and the cost efficiency and effectiveness of of as such. We used the Brookfield
Elementary School renovation project is a case study for the assessment of the permitting process. We've been following this renovation project for a few years and we're interested to examine
the permitting process for this particular project. Again, as the theme for year continued to be heavily focused on cost reductions efficient and effective
permitting plays a critical role in reducing project delays as you can see from the recommendations on the screen, some of these recommendations or recognition of what fcps
staff and county staff have already committed to do. And we are highly supportive of the achievements. But by both staff teams today we have 2
recommendations, number 5, 6, one of which numbers 5, 6, to continue that path forward. One of which is focused on additional ways to encourage contractors to take ownership
on their end for the schedule of permitting activities. thus migrants line here, we present some possible ideas for memo
topics and the next school year. Before we kind of dive into this. I did want to acknowledge Kathy has set for all the additional work she
did on behalf of pack through her participation in the superintendent's Boundary Review Advisory committee. This was an additional commitment that Kathy agreed to be part of. And we
appreciate her dedication to AF Pak, but also to the superintendents Boundary Review Advisory Committee. Thank you, Kathy. So we're happy to discuss any of the
items here today that are listed of things that you all would like us to consider working on. We did that. These in our main meeting that we
had last earlier this month. And I'm happy to have more conversation about them. lastly, before I close, I just wanted to also thank of CPS
staff for their assistance and support this year, specifically Jessica Gillis, Brandon, Saudi and Kevin Jackson were instrumental in
helping us with so many logistics and support behind the scenes. I'm not sure we would have had such a successful year without them. Thank you to staff. With that.
I'd like to chair fresh. >> Thank you very Skews me for the presentation and all the work that went into it. 0 in on 2 things. One from. This
year's report and one looking forward for next year. One of the things that we hear is we have these conversations about boundaries frequently is built capacity. Bill capacity built
capacity. Obviously building is not going to solve. Capacity issues alone, right? It's not an efficient way of doing it. Certainly. How would you recommend based on the work that you all have done
around reviewing timeliness of our ability to react to situations that need addressing. Are there changes that should be made when
balancing the need for increased capacity versus adjustments in school zones? >> I'll take a stab at that one and pass it off to Kathy to see if she has any
additional got. Sunny, first of all, I would say they were supportive of all the back behind the scenes work that goes into student projections
that are included in cip annually. think that staff does really nice job playing that information together and that obviously they're using that as a means to help
understand how students either join or exit Fcps and what that means for our capacities and our schools. In terms of
planning for the I acknowledge that Inc some of our buildings certainly need to have potential extra space included or available. and, you know,
from that. A long-term planning perspective, understanding growth is expected to continue in the county particular areas where
Fairfax County and the Board of Supervisors are encouraging growth in particular airs. Those might be areas where targeted. Physical square footage capacity could be
meaningful and helpful for the future. so that's one particular strategy. But it gets a little difficult right when we're using those as the drivers behind capacity enhancements because it
>> could hurt equity between. You know, the popularity of neighborhoods being moved into, you know, our attendance has been, you know, slightly increasing, not it. Certainly
patient has in years past, but that's not to say that other certain neighborhoods are having big booms and populations, right. And you mentioned how we address capacity know, just Gillis is
here. You know, they've looked back at years past of their projections and they're pretty darn accurate in terms of their projections because they've stayed on top of ensuring that they're always knowledgeable about where the
kids are coming from, right? We didn't used to count apartments and condos and townhomes the same way that we do now because the old thinking was these are not producing children into our schools. We know that's not
true. So they've adjusted over time. Just accurate. I guess my question is a five-year outlook is not enough time to
actually build a renovation. You know, in in efficient way, right? Because you're gonna have a Q. What is the balance? I do think when you have a renovation, you probably should put some capacity in
there. But it's not the solution to major capacity crunch is at schools across the county. How do you measure the need for that versus other
approaches? Because what we hear frequently is what you should be doing is just adding to schools. And that's just never going to get us there. >> Right? Yeah. And so we acknowledge that in our memo
which is attachment number 2 for costs, construction reduction strategies where we actually recommend boundary
adjustments are means to right sizing student population and capacity to the size of the building that that could definitely be a prioritized driver moving forward and to
your point, we haven't looked down in the details of what you're asking regarding but would be happy to have future conversations about that add
that to a potential list of memo topics for next year. don't know if Kathy had anything I just have one thing to add. The reason why I have been focused on the boundaries
for so long, for instance, the mountain region has had most of the schools renovated to current. >> Capacity that they are. The boundaries haven't been looked
at in our region really in 40 years. So were those kids even? >> After school when we built them to keep them there. >> So I'm a little saddened that we feel like we're a
little behind on that just because and I don't know. Other areas of the county might also have that. And if there's a certain school that's maybe under I feel like programming, which is not of
Pax purview. But could you know, like don't put a program here that will naturally pull people in. I think that's something to look at who and I don't know that that's pack but I feel like that's another
piece of the puzzle and it can also create weird things down the road where? >> OK now the school supercapacitor because we have a program there. So you never know what you're stepping into. I do have a question
about the future. I had a great conversation with my aspect priest mommy about virtual power plants and when
I think about our lack of funding as a school system, one of the things that becomes more difficult as achieving our jet goals because well, it does save us. Money was saved 100 million dollars over the
last 15 years because of our environmental work because sometimes more up front to make that progress and as I understand it, virtual power plants could play important component in our ability to
reach those goals in the future. I wonder if you could explain for folks who are not familiar with, you know, the bigger picture about what that would mean for us and why it's
worth exploring next year. >> Well, I mean, Pre is certainly a AF Pak Committee that has a lot more.
Specialized experience and knowledge in In this concept. So we have talked about it as a potential item. It's an item that is up for board
consideration. We did not discuss it as a group in much detail over the past year. You know, we are focused on our current annual charge, but it is certainly something that's
on the list for consideration. And it does have the potential of that, you know, if done correctly with some up sent upfront investment, provide fcps some cost savings down
the road. >> And it could fit very neatly into the jungles that we've already approved and adopted as a school system. So I very much encourage at least some look at that knowing that it may be a couple of years before we're able to make
steps are strides in that direction. But it's nonetheless very important would have a big impact on all of our facilities. So I appreciate all of the work that's gone into this year's report in the forward looking
nature of the work that's being done for next year. Seeing no other placards. I'll take a turn.
>> So I I they're on the list of possible topics for next year's. The cip process between Fcps in Fairfax County. Does include contracts
portion of co-location of facilities because that's something other places do quite a bit But, you know, we billed separately and that can
mean we're building twice rather than building once and, you know, bearing all the costs ourselves rather than sharing costs with the county or frankly, even with the state of the state, has any interest in building
particular facilities our area. >> Sure, I can speak so that I do know that when we're talking about building new bills, the county is very
adamant about not doing a single use building like when they do the new police station in Lorton also has an animal shelter like it's a dual use
building. I've I've wondered why the schools and the county don't partner more on that because I feel like especially was like a sack or a child care issue. And I know the Learning Community Center also
has some sack. >> Spaces there. So I I would love for a fact. A look at that. I also know that I believe there is some kind of
joint cip conversation happening. Chairman McKay told me that he n chair for sure. >> Maybe making some meetings and to make that happen. >> And I as an effect member
would love to support that work. So if you want to advise us on how we can help with that, but yet to your point, I do agree, I think just in the future. Making spaces, the
schools are used almost 24 7, write them all this community use. And how do we get the county to own the part that's the community use more, right? feel like that's an avenue which is out. Some may be one
of our topics. The community use piece, right. So I would love to investigate that more. Yeah, I agree with what Kathy
mentioned here and >> There may be other opportunities for. Shared knowledge between the county and if CPS. I know that, you
know, there's quite a bit collaboration already ongoing between these 2 entities. But just, you know, sharing lessons learned care, meant
processees working together on projects allow for some cost savings. Also down the road of only having to procure one type of contract for a project
as compared to doing it at a separate doing having separate projects and >> I know that that CPS is
already making very good progress implementing new procurement. Methodology is like a design build and construction management at risk. And I it's done some
important work in that respect. And the past year, too. But I and I know we're doing in facilities condition assessment, which will take
probably another 18 months to to be completed. But in the meantime, it might be interesting to explore the first bullet on your list. You
know, looking other school divisions for what they do for infrastructure backlogs and deferred maintenance backlogs and how we can address those
most effectively, perhaps in concert 3rd parties, for example, virtual power plants you often partner with 3rd parties to come in and kind of man said, bring in investment
dollars and rips a things by earned their money by the savings that you're accumulate. a similar sense. Maybe there are 3rd parties out there who help with deferred maintenance or
infrastructure backlogs and how we can do with them the most cost-effective manner. That's my $0.2. I see Miss
Sizemore Heizer. >> Thank you. sorry. Sorry about that. move before I turn it on. Thank you again for all your hard work and the sun in
your long dedication to f pack. I know we've talked several times and we've talked little bit too. So really appreciate this. And I appreciate you know where at this tipping point with our facilities, which I know
you've been busy for a long time with funding and just we all use with a bond dollars go the cost of construction so I know it's been appreciated to have packed. You talk about
some of the different design and build methodology so we can sort of look it, you know, try to diversify what we're doing as well. A couple things that I would like to. I would be great to kind of see as of
going out to the community talk the community. I've shared some of the statistics that came out my cip in terms of how much per square foot we spend on facilities with our
deferred maintenance is things like that. I think it might be helpful, perhaps as route this tipping point, especially as in this review work to have do
a state of facilities or reality of facilities. Kind of report, right? Because I you I think Mr. Fishes, perhaps kind of alluding to this. And I don't put words in your mouth, right? But help the community
understand that, you know, we can't build our way out of the realities of facilities, right? And we can certainly looking, we should and we are in the process of looking at a variety of construction
methodology the current methodology is to be as effective and efficient and as possible. But I think we in this room understands realities, but I'm not sure how our community does. And so
when it comes to the bond being past right or understanding why the boundary view is the point that we're I've been talking about community meetings, but I wonder. As we're looking at
these prepare methodologies, for example, swing space is something that it kind brings bases in the recommendations kind elite. The way came across to me leave to pass the pros and cons swings basis and
when to how can we do spring spaces? Right? But I think from a parent perspective, if you're looking to swing space that may not be close to where my kids school is. That may come across as very negative,
right. And so I think. I was thinking like, how do we get community buy-in for some of these difficult things we're doing. So before we go to the how can we look at swings basis, I think we need to have a pros and cons of swings
spaces, right? And then a how to. Because we've got it. You know, we are public servants in charge public funds. We've got to make sure our public is is understanding and and
brought along with us or it could create a lot of unintended consequences. So I would love to see something in your report about pros and cons wing spaces in terms of the impact on education and on
communities. Right, especially we have communities where there may be more walkers to school and it may actually have a significant impact on those communities. Are childcare. So I think from a design and build perspective or from a construction
timeline, perspective springs basis can make sense. But from an overall school experience perspective, I think that needs take into account. So that's something I want to lift up of. But they good to
go back and finish my sentence. I think getting a state of reality of facilities. To help us get that community buy-in would be really helpful to us. And I want to thank you for that
comment because as I'm doing the boundary work and I'm about to be on the Bond committee against I'm gonna do that work again. >> I have to remember that not everybody has been doing this for a decade like me and I have one of the boundary
meeting. Someone said I was talking about above he goes. Wait, what's in attendance, Island? And I thought, so I had to step back and explain that. So I think that's a very
good point that you raise. And I think that we should all in our work because isn't that. mean, you guys are in this every day. And you understand most of what we're saying, but the general public at the boundary meetings to there's
just so much that they don't know. The education really helps calmly understanding like it helps them get to where we need them to get to do the work. Right. So thank
you for that. >> That's another comment. So I'm a size. Where has continue? >> Michael, that was just It did against the COVID learn I
go back was going to be when you have your list of recommendations. What to look out for next year. I would find extremely helpful from your deck knowledge. It long time you worked at committee
to have a report for the public to help bring them to that point because as exploring some of these great suggestions you've brought along right over the years and we're doing the bounty was that it was Jose Cuban advocating for for for a long
time. And as we're looking at and use it, the city's different construction methodology. Ys. And then the other thing, would just be really helpful to have that that we could then use not
just from what we're signed from water Committee of Experts is saying as well. So, you know, whatever you will come up with. And then they want to talk to you mentioned 20 to 30 to process and the permitting issues, I would
love to lift that up as an important thing to study next year because part of I think I think this goes back to it. A lot of us on the board to stay this and board supervisors of working towards better and
sooner and more often collaboration next year. I Mr. Dunn and I are the liaison to the Planning Commission Education Committee of the Planning Commission. And this is something we've been talking about. I think that
committee's going you working on. But I think building understanding on both our boards and the community of why we want to make sure we going to get started about one
minute board members could return to the
>> I don't want right there live for us. thank you.
All right. Good afternoon and welcome back. This will be our last presentation for the day career technical education >> I'm going to go ahead and
turn things over to serve and Whitney, let them kick it off and then will open the floor for questions. There we are.
So good afternoon. Thank you very much. For inviting us. We know we are standing between you and gardening or whatever else you might do in this. And
so that's what I have to do. So I can be long here. Or I could just take my time a good
idea are back on current chair career and technical Education Committee and the pleasure to be here and share with you
recommendations and findings for this for this year and together with me will be director coordinator for CTE programs as within college, Dr College. And also this Glazer
as well for CCC on. So thank you both for being here. So I guess I get points. My vice
chair Christine going on for. She was only able to be here today, but she was. So they very much a part of us putting this together. So in collaboration with key stakeholders, we are here as a
committee charged shows to ensure equitable awareness, access and participation and all CTE programs to ensure greater awareness of career readiness options provided by
CTE programs. And with a new emphasis on exposure to virtual hybrid workplaces, workforce trends and growing leadership skills. We'll looking at changing that to charge for the coming year.
But this is the charge that we had this year and by stakeholders. We mean a wide variety of stakeholders, not only parents and students and teachers and staff but are elected officials. So what you
see there are 2 of our business to our academies. One was to Marshall High School on the left there with the chairman of Board of Supervisors, Jeff McKay and the right were West Potomac
Academy. And this applies advanced or from Mount Vernon. They are stakeholders because they do a number of things, not the least of which is they have access to funds. So the
more that we can get them involved in our programs. For them to appreciate the lead going around the better. It's a it is going to be for So
they do accept this. They come. They ask questions. I'm hopeful that impacts them in terms of how they're going to look at it when budgets have have come up. So that's what trying to invite them. And
we've had many view as welcome. We've had the state senators and delegates as well. So we'll continue to do that in the coming year. We
all on one list of committee members. Some of them are appointed by several of you here. And it's so important that each of you appoint a member because they are serve as the eyes and ears for you.
They're the ones that can tell us how you maybe want to us to look at some projects. But they also want to share with you what those outcomes are. So we hope that that is
continuing during the year as opposed to this being the first time that you might hear some of this. We appreciate your those of you that important members. We also have a wide variety of
business and industry representatives as well from different parts the private and the nonprofit sector as well. So before we start with our committee at 2 this year,
we do want to just mention that in your report, you have assessment and updates for 23. And 24, we don't have a slight for the number. Just want to make sure because chairman for
should mention this in terms of having this process of Last year, we had asked you where we wanted to increase partnerships. We've done that in a modest basis. We've asked
to have more staffing for transportation resources that did not take place. We asked to use cost-benefit analysis somewhat more. That's a continuing process. We asked
you to fund to work basis, learning positions of fortune. They were not funded. We asked for tools career planning that's going along. Well, we wanted to broaden our academic
advising that has gone well. And also we wanted to CTE curriculum reviews for math and sciences that is pending. So we're hitting maybe batting
about 40500 there, which is not bet baseball, but could be a little bit better here. But at least we do have those accomplishments so that we can assess how well we did last
year. Our committee activities continue as we have before. It's a wide range of activities. We highlight all the programs and it's a tremendous list that when gives us each meeting with the
students are doing. We certain engage with business partner, experiences with CT. We highlight them will like them to be our speakers. We have school board updates Mystics.
It is a been a really is on this year and sheer staff have been able update on the school board how it impacts us. As I mentioned, we've going around to different academies to look
at the CTE programs. And we discussed their new programs, new course that will be coming up. The process. Takes a
grows. Wish you could be a faster, but we try and do that and dissipate some of the careers maybe to try match those with new courses. And we, of course, support
activities. Events. Many of us are asked to go and help is being judges at the future. Business leaders association, others. That's what great, great activity to do. I commend you off. You can just
to see what those students of doing. It's very inspiring for them. And then of course, we have recommendations. That process begins in mid-year and
we continue through that this year. We had we schedule extra virtual meeting just so we could talk some more about that because that is quite
important to us. So these are among the things that we have done. And I think it's range of activities that we have done so we can be aware of the needs of our students and is well aware of the resources
that are available to us. So with that, let me. So with the recognition before I do start with the first what I do want to mention and then your report. We have mentioned that
all of recommendations all very much stemming from the fcps strategic plan for 23, 30 specifically into goals,
equitable. 3 goals equitable creating skills. And in terms accessibility. So all these for recommendations will tie into one or more of those
goals from the strategic plan for 23 30. So our recommendation is looking at middle school career exploration research shows.
And then your of report you have at the back of that, an appendix to report put together by Forbes magazine based on research. The middle schoolers, in fact, begin to
think about their careers. So we're now waiting until 9th grade to 10th grade. And as I think it was, I think Mr. Move have mentioned in terms of when we should be doing algebra, we're getting to the
8th and 9th grade is not necessary because the research shows that, in fact, middle schools are thinking about. Careers and in some areas. So
we list we would like to therefore, as a result list. current investigations course is a standard liked about in every middle and secondary schools come one beginning. 26
27. And explore the prison making career investigations mandatory from middle school is beginning in 27. 28. cost
neutral recommendation. But it really will satisfy the needs. Middle schoolers and their parents will be begin to explore these things that point rather than waiting until we get high school. Part
of this is also encourage more focus from principals to require career development activities at the middle level. The principles are very
important that that point they have a lot in terms of directing how the school will We would like this to become a priority. So that there. 6th graders for 7th, 7007th and
8th graders will be a look at these things and this recommendation, what I think able that to take place. Last year, we talked about supply
and demand and being able to meet student demand. We have I think some 60,000 students we've taken one or more courses. That's approximately a 3rd of their of their Roman
that you have but they're not always in the right places. So what we would like to do is our recommendation to try better meet student demand. That's the staff's the team
structures in specific specially program, which is automotive Culinary Jr ROTC central in open spaces programs to nearby high schools to ensure more access
the high-demand classes. So examples maybe is that if a staffing is individual school-based. You may have a resource allocated, but the program may not be there. How
do we get that resource to be able to, to go to the right to the right school. So this is also relatively cost neutral. There was some aspect here in terms of transportation of
cost. But the idea is if there's a man in in a can we meet that demand if, in fact there's a position that available elsewhere. So
essentially this moves were recommended to move to Central staffing for these programs. We certainly would like to have feasibility study if we need to. But we can have that
information available now that can utilize all the high schools be on the academy's for special programs as well to meets social student. Ben, both these again trying to increase demand to meet the
supply. I can speak for this personally in terms of my son who went to center Culinary and it was very fortunate to be able to get in there. How many students like him? One of
that but unable to because we just couldn't staff those facilities to properly. By the way, he is from the living, the dream of the color the students and he now he and his
wife own their own business, the cafe and store up in Vermont. And he stays in touch with chef chef Doubleday on a regular basis was instructor
some 20 years ago. So that's the impression that made. And we're just very thankful that he was able to get in that program. We would like to make that available to as many other students as possible.
And thirdly, a recommendation that came from sticks to create a seat he hoped to share work based learning opportunities with all students. We would like to offer a virtual resources
through the CT help to be able to bridge the gap between our school and professional world to expand work based learning programs. That we think we
would hope. So these are the areas, again to try help us meet the student demand that we have. And so many of these programs as an we mentioned this a little report as well.
The increasing amount of students graduating from high school moving toward career fields and a decreasing amount of those on the average moving toward college programs. So we
that demand, if anything is going to continue to grow, can we had fcps medas much of that
demand as possible. Going to a 3rd recommendation. Career and technical standing organizations are required as part of Perkins Grant. We
asked to consider providing equity pay for CT instructors but providing activity stipends for sponsors. It's been topic discussed before. So just to err on the same
page, we don't offer those activities. Stipends currently to those teachers who are engaged in CT who are their sponsors? As a result, the time that they are spending in
those programs is purely on their own time when they're unable 4 for financial reasons that reduces the amount of hours and those students that
we have programs need those hours. If they don't have those hours, they were unable to finish the work that they do. And that puts them in a very difficult situation.
There is a cost factor to this. It has considerable. We certainly understand the current budgetary situation we have here. But are you all
program certainly can benefit by that. And again, if increase, the amount students are going toward career technical fields after high school, this is a service that they deserve to be able to
have. And the teachers who are working those programs. So they deserve that support in terms of the stipends from Fcps. Alas recommendation. We
talked about financial constraints we can have and you have all a very difficult situation. And we can see when we talk to our elected officials in the Fairfax as
well as a Richmond. We certainly stress as much and is that we can. But nonetheless, those have limits. And We will continue
work on like to be able to do is to reach out more into the local community. We live in a very prosperous county. Thank goodness for for us. We do
well, we have large amount of foundations in area we would like to do is be able to assist CT in terms of working with educate Fairfax and requesting your support that
sea tac have a representative on that committee. Well, with the benefits of that we will be able to speak on behalf of all the CTE programs that we have for that type of
experience and awareness that we as whoever that sea tac representative, maybe we think that enable them to see more where those needs are. And
part of that may be to be able to look at modify current programs that have reaching out to the business community. think there will be a benefit to them. We think we had a
voice that will be constructive to them and thereby we join others. Several of you are on the board here moon and Mr. Smith
and Dr Reid and on their orders from various industries, medical communications and banking. We would like to expand the range. We think they'll be a benefit to educate for a fact.
Representative CTE yet advisory committee on there. As I mentioned, Fairfax's plentiful resources. fact, we have some 230 foundations
based in Fairfax foundations that are there to donate money. The resources we have assets of some 2 billion dollars in Fairfax County. We
have some 17. Fortune 1000 companies. 10 for Fortune 500. Many of them already have existing relationships with schools. The best example, of
course, is Thomas Jefferson was extraordinary amount of one-on-one relationships. But many of all the schools have that as well. So if you have a good school with some individuals who can contact
the business community, they can take advantage of that. We think that should be expanded as much as possible to be able to do all the resources that can help us will be Northern
Virginia community College and their resources as well. So by asking for to be your support to sit on, educate Fairfax. We, I think will be helping And if we can, we'll helping
them fcps as well as hoping CT as well. look forward to next year. We'll have new leadership will remain on as chair for the next year. And we have to do. Vice chairs
will be joining us. Worse Appelbaum and pulled Phil Berger this will be new. We've only had one vice chair. So said anything that says we
can't have too So we have about to. that will be very helpful We will have a modified charge as well. That
will be reviewing when the new CT members are there. And again, we really appreciate all of your support to making sure that you have representative for you so that
we can they can be your eyes and ears as I have sent. The priest says the very much and we're certainly very much open to questions. And again, thank you for your support. Okay.
Thank you. And I only saw one name go up. Mr. Anderson. I would like to thank you for the work that you guys have done. I've had the opportunity to visit with you at many and
visit many of the CT sites this year. And it's been. >> Seeing the work that's going on for with our students is awesome. I was gonna at the question that I have is specific to the cur
investigations. I was not aware that this was a course that we offer. Is it a yearlong class? >> That's actually new this
year is middle school courses. A semester course. And any endorsement can teach at. So we Roughly 7 schools try and run it this year. I think 3 or
4 were successful in creating a section and we expect more next year. So just moving at from an optional course offering to a standard course offering is what the committee discussed. >> Okay. Because I know that
we we put a lot on our middle school plate in terms of getting kids ready to are determining what they're interested. I think that I'm hesitant to make anything a requirement. However, I am
wondering whether or not there are components of the class that could be incorporated into. Some of the advisory type time that the middle schoolers have. I also know
that that's a pretty tight block as well. But it would really cool idea to be give the precursor to that as part of just give kids an opportunity to see what the
course would offer as a way to encourage participation. >> OK, thank Mr. Attention with the presentation and
thank you for the many recommendations that. I as one with membership people, Mr.
You know, time and thought 2, 1, And hopefully asking my comics to have a chance to
discuss beyond just what we have. One of the do is win it.
You know, providing. More locations, perhaps at one locations for our CTE programs. So that can be more easily accessible. Obviously,
that's not only the staffing issue sparking Lisa sometimes depending upon. The programs that facilities and quieting a lot of investments. Have you
looked into that? What could the potential be added to layer that Sub B on your capacity advisory committees capacity and asking excuse us
into into that? This has been >> I think ever since I've been on the committee in terms of where can we find resources that are available to us that
being you and utilized or not being utilized at all. There has been some progress in that impacts. You can us more about what other directions we can do. Maybe also challenges that
we have the spaces. >> Obviously, there's an intense renovation add brand new program. So that's usually a prohibitive. We have been
working with partners and potential facilities were actively looking for ways or Graham funders to help us find spaces to take our students to
4. Increasing the access to some of those programs. A lot of this discussion centered around, for example, on attack is at 13 schools that are
either a first or second most requested class 13 schools have auto tech in the building. Only 2 of those are academies. So if you happen to go to a school has on attack one of those 13, you have a
much higher chance of getting into that class. If you happen to go to a school who does not? Because then you only have the one academy that you could access. So looking for ways to spread out the access
to the facilities we already have was most of that discussion >> but if I'm but it is also true that and those poor guys, we have there tend to be full.
So what do we do with students want to get in? But those programs that are open, whether there could be some other Iranians, I think, is what you're also suggesting is
as well. I was at the eye to conference. was some 50600, a wonderful students who are looking at career advice. And I talked to some of the companies were there. So there
are companies like plumbing companies that could look at making more the facilities available. But there are costs to that even if they're donating that there are costs to that and other challenges
to be able to do that. So I think there is more potentially in the business community that could offer that. But it's more than just a facility that we would need.
>> I wanted to start with that question because yesterday I happen to be a pending.
Firefighting graduation. final The one thing that I should remembered less that duties on one occasion for us to provide that. And I so should those
coming the way down from. Let's put on again at the Just think about the distance they have to travel to. West talks rolled dealer. Government center. That's that's that's
quite a hike. And there was students were coming because he wanted to take this class. You know, investing almost like a lot, 5 hours and other
guy for a whole And wanted to do that. So thinking that. Is it possible for us? Find our terminal patients another
location close 2. We're going to be screws. >> All. >> So that's something I'm going to a superintendent. The
petition taken up with It because I her dad. Yesterday. When I ask state code requirement the meeting.
>> Number of students we can take to 20 is that per site. Why per squared up Party or or or per site? Because per side.
So up potentially if you have on the side that can accommodate. >> In a boy student stand. I know yesterday we didn't even have. 20. We had 18 graduating. I don't know.
There was anyone me seemed graduation yesterday, 18 but distance could be certainly a factor. >> Yeah, absolutely. That that
program is incredibly unique. >> In that they are going through the Fall Fire Academy Program. So. >> The location at the fire Academy is pretty critical.
They they literally run into a burning building through that program. >> they will would be happy to show you how they do that. They're always looking for patients to ride in the ambulance with them and all their their most their
simulations that they do throughout the year. But that one is pretty unique. And we a rigorous process that the fire academy makes them go through over the summer to get into
the program. So we often start out with maybe 25 sons who want to commit to that. And then this year we ended up with a teen who made it through and could schedule and could pass the physical and
medical in all of the things included. It is quite a commitment for those kids, especially the ones coming from a long distance because they're they're 12 to 5 every other day. So they have to
really make that choice. But that is certainly a really unique specialized that more of an extreme example than some of our others. >> OK, thank Since with 12
seconds left, let me ask a quick question about that. Maybe you need something less unique is we have on the academy's. We are. We have a waiting list of students and
we not able accommodate the needs. I the Studens ability. >> Opportunity pursue. They are studies because we and
meeting. Denver says. Should people pass on trying to accommodate to start the things. That's I think to a
different approach of >> what if what, if somehow, we could get companies in hospitality industry who are looking for qualified workers and and some of the students
would like to work for them potentially up to high As I mentioned again, increasing amount of our graduates are moving toward career fields and a decreasing amount of our graduates going college. What
can we do for that group that has grown? Can we find a company hotel chain with some other to say will offer facility for your students? The present some issues site
what if we have someone to say a bill do a facility? But all that costs money and the ability to go out there. But I think in many of these, when I visited a new visit, some of
you guys have visited as well. You can see these classes are full. What can we do to put more classes classes in there, whether it's on side offside,
it's something we've we have talked about. But that demand is definitely there. And to me, if the data showing that our students are more and more interest in that, we need to find a creative way to believe that. So we agree with you
very much, Sir. Thank you. Agreed. Okay. Thank Mr. Dylan. >> It's enough to in terms of expanding our partnerships with industry, too. teen
funding from industry to set up new CT programs or 2. Make sure that we have. I know we used see some donations of equipment that seems like there's not going to expand those partnerships more if we
but more of an emphasis on that. >> Can we expand those in terms the company's industry
support. I think we can. Which is why we had asked if we could position on the UK, Fairfax port in terms of new courses. That's a different matter because that has to go through a process to be able
to. so, for instance, we haven't talked about artificial intelligence that all of you are should should we do more in that We have to see if there are existing courses what it will take on
that. But if there were, I would think there'll be a lot of support from industry in terms of hoping and training what that has to be facilities that can be virtual. I'm not
I'm not sure. But I think we do have to ask industry more to support. We have and to see where we can provide those resources in those fields. When you've all visitor
academies, you can see how full they are. The HVAC it those the medical sciences, the medical health field, all of them are there and they're As I said, there are these
partnerships like an over does help. Could they do more potentially where we also put those students? So the more that would like to do the more demand there is to find those
locations with that can actually be done. >> Can you elaborate on your recommendation to establish kind of central CTE hubs or
areas you mentioned in your recommendations? >> So going back detect. was the best example from that discussion as if say, for
instance, South Lakes has auto tack and Herndon does not. So if it became a hub for the closest nearby school, you don't increase the amount of students who can take the
course because the facilities are the facilities and the classes are capped at 20 per section regardless of who accesses them. But you spread