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♪ ♪ >> This July 16th, 2026 regular meeting of the Fairfax County School board will now come to order. And before we start, I did want to mention Peace Keeper Chair Lady, your

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thoughts and prayers. She's out of town today. Unfortunate last minute. Her father, she's with her father Williamsburg is not doing well. So please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by Dona sides performs the national anthem by so Coast Quartet on

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♪ We have one more round of applause for the Soco for If

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you'd like to review a copy of the meeting agenda, please see the back of the auditorium to obtain copies of any items are supporting materials being presented tonight. Please reference a QR code on the agenda or visit Fcps Edu for

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slash for docs. Tonight's meeting is being broadcast on Cox Channel. 99, Verizon fires Channel 11 and live streamed on YouTube and our Web site at Fcps Edu forward Slash live

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stream. Ms. Lady has notified the vice chairman and clerk of the board issues using Reppert dissipation issues, caregiving for an individual to disability. That's mostly will be counted as in person for the purpose of quorum. Today

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and does not need to be voted in by the board. She's located in Leesburg, Virginia, Lady. Can you please check your audio and video? Thank you.

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Agenda item. 4.0 3. I call on Doctor Anderson Automation. >> Dr. Anderson: Thank you. I would like to ask the Henderson family to please rise. And located of the year.

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Whereas Mr. Harry Henderson. Has served as the Mason District representative on the advisory Committee for students with disabilities since January 2017 providing

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distinguished leadership as the committee's vice chairman during the 22 23 school year. And whereas Mr, Henderson's 10 years spanning over 9 years

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through July 2026. reflects a deep commitment and unwavering dedication to the advocacy of inclusive education and specialized services. And

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whereas throughout his service, Mr. Henderson has provided valuable insight. An expert recommendations to the school board to improve the educational outcomes and

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well-being of students with disabilities. And whereas Mister Junta since consistently engaged with the community to ensure that the voices of families and the

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Mason District were heard an reflected in the committee's advisory activities. And Mr, Henderson has demonstrated the qualities of a principled

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leader. Foster collaborative spirit and advocating for transparency and equity within the Fairfax County Public Schools. And whereas his

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generous contribution of time and expertise has significantly enhance the public. The public's understanding of the challenges and triumphs with in special education. Now,

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therefore, let it be resolved that the Fairfax County School board extend its highest commendation and deepest appreciation to miss a hairy Henderson in recognition of

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his outstanding service and tireless dedication to the students, families and staff and community members of the

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Fairfax County Public Schools. >> All right. Call for the vote. All those in favor. >> Miss Anderson, Mr. Freshman

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smear Mister Moon Mystics, Mr. Dunne, Mister Danon Doctor Anderson, a St. John-Cunning and myself are the clerk read

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the vote? lady's vote. It's unanimous. motion passes. >> I would look like to

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welcome all those here in support of the proclamation honoring Harry Henderson to

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please join the board for a

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photo in front of the diocese.

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>> Vice Chairman McDaniel.

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That's our last. for

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proclamations.

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>> Agenda item. 4.0 4 National Merit Scholarship Award recognitions. Tonight we're recognizing the winners. The 2026 National Merit Scholarship Awards will be 3 groups of students recognized the 2026 National Merit

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College sponsored scholarship winners. The 2026 National Merit. Corporate sponsors scholarship winners and the 2026 National Merit. Scholarship. Winners were very proud of all our fcps students

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who competed in the National Merit Scholarship process. Mr. Fresh. There were 17 Fairfax

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County Public School students named as winners of the 2026 National Merit College sponsored scholarship. The students were evaluated on their academic record. An essay and information about

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extracurricular activities, awards and leadership positions SAT scores that confirmed outstanding test performance and a recommendation. An endorsement from a high school official.

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Each award provides between $500 in $2000 annually for up to 4 years of undergraduate study at the institution financing the recipient scholarship listed on the

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screen are the names of this year's scholarship winners. >> Ms. Anderson: There were 9

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Fairfax County Public Schools, students named as winners of the 2026 National Merit for for a sponsor scholarship corporate sponsors provide Merit Scholarship awards for national merit. Finalists whose children are our of in

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of their employees who are residents of communities. They. Who are residents of communities, the company serves or who have. I have

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college majors or career interests. The sponsors want to encourage corporate sponsored mayor or merit Scholarship awards are renewable for up to 4 years of college. Undergraduate study

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and range from 1000 to $10,000 a year. Others provide a single payment between $2500 and $10,000. Recipients can

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use awards at regionally accredited U.S. colleges, universities of their choice. was stunned screens of the name of this year's

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scholarship winners. >> Dr. Anderson: There were 31 Fairfax County public School students named as winners of

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the 2026. National Merit Scholarship. The students were evaluated on their academic record, including the difficulty level of subjects

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studied and grades earned and scores from 2 standardized tests, contributions and leadership and school and community activities. Personal

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essay in a recommendation from a high school official. The number of winners named in a state is in proportion to the state's percentage of the national total graduating high

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school seniors. Listen on the screen of the names of this

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year's scholarship winners. >> I'd like to welcome all those here in support 2026. National Merit Scholarship winners to please join the

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board for a photo at the front

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of the dice.

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The next order of business is community participation. We welcome all community members who are here and those who signed up to speak this evening. Additional information about signing up to provide comments at school board, regular business

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meetings and public hearings can be found. The school board's web site at Www Fcps Edu forward Slash school board. During the signup process. Community members acknowledged they were informed of the school board's

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expectations for proper decorum and providing comments. These expectations are also available online and with different agenda and meeting the tears, the back of the room we ask audience members to respect one another

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shouting out first, not be tolerated. Please hold your applause. The conclusion of a speaker's remarks. Audience members may not join speakers at the podium and should remain at their seats, including one recording video

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taking notes. great for those who come out to speak to us today. And thank you for your cooperation. School board members will be listening but not responding. Madam deputy clerk, please call for

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Speaker. >> Student one. Good evening.

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School board members and doctoring. I'm a rise in 11th grade at Central High School. I'm here tonight to talk about 2 items. My first item is the renovations and expansion of Centerville High school. It is great that the new Skyview high school will open next

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month. But the scent of a community feels that you have neglected us. As I listened June 25th for admitting several suggestions came to mind when doctor it comes back to you with an update on August 28th. It should include having a town hall in

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September on this Senate bill where this board and Doctor Adrian, the Board of Supervisors and Park Authority to the town hall. Let everyone hear the update and take questions from the disenfranchised on the same day off or entity should take

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an extensive tour of the school, a student and teacher representatives only as doctor. It is really looking at this project. There's an opportunity for SPS to include the current community voice, not the one from 2022, we're

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only one neighborhood was included in that was that's a neighborhood in front of the school where his wealthy and Caucasian Senate bill is one of the most diverse high schools in the county and voices were not included in the original outreach. The second item is for my

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testimony last July. There are shades instructions first to ring in the state representative to be called the Superintendent's student advisory councils representative to the school board. Soccer is the only body that isn't allowed to vote for who that person will be.

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There's no clear fixture consistent way. SPs cheeses that Sacco presented allows each high school sponsor, do what they want may be the guy who should choose this up should be cautions. And as each high school and so the

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100 or so out of the 50,000 plus high school students, I do Most sj classes are not representative of the school community in terms of race and gender sponsors are not as diverse as our student body, but we must start somewhere

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for change to Second thing I mentioned last year that there should be 3 representatives forward just like the boards throughout large numbers there mention was for SBS to create a yearly student Congress conference. Michigan leaders

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from the county's investors, academic club's youth groups as she second mortgage. You know, we can tackle issues together. Hopefully all my suggestion from last year

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gaining some traction this Thank you. Student, too.

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>> Hi, my name easy in going into 4th day. It crashed. Should and in Israelis pm, it I might spend time talking about to lose highs. Good

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fighting for sometimes. I wonder why sometimes I don't. She tells she's trying to make it better for me. I hope she can. I don't too much about.

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Angie's are these meetings, but I do know that other schools have 2008 kids in the list only has 1400 kids because the bandito not at.

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Fay. I just know that one days really be my high and I hope it will be so appreciative and

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Make it grew. Is cautioned not to pan to kids That make it more fair. Which cause it. Plus kids can move schools.

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Louis last 100 kids, which is

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a Thank you. And please been released P Student number 3.

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My name is all over. I'm a student at Crestwood Elementary School. Chris, what is in the Loo spearmint, which means I meant to attend Lewis High School sadly seems that

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with the low student count. >> Uses stores may eventually closed by the time. And the Frenchman and I school this would affect me and other students in many ways. I've seen students that will be

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attending high school in the next 2 years. choose to avoid Lewis, mainly because of its lack of programs. In sports teams, Lewis has materials and education for the teams and

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programs. The only part scene is a student's required create classes and teens. The problem is reoccurring not being solved. The board has set loose is a priority. So why does the problems still

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persist? The Louis community requests that the board review solution choices and use an impactful solution to repopulate Lewis and solve the vast majority of flu says problems. Think about the kids

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going through The kids being deprived opportunities that other high school students can have. I want all to think about Lewis. Are you really doing enough? Is nothing has

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changed for the better. >> Carroll's China. Carol, Shine. Dominique. My name but

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it with something admitted to dental still broke waste A

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lot. called Carol I did not call you and them.

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>> Lewis High School has fewer students than any other high school in Fairfax County. student population affect everything from music to support 2, how many classes

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off it? Lewis off the board by 2 of capacity high school Sanoja we faced by the school Board of Crosse, Wisconsin. Back in 1979 right down to

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socioeconomic differences between school. People back then said the same things that doubt about with to that fix the school add more programs.

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Those things did not work. Their class, 2 active construction to stay that that student and will not and get equal education. If enrollment on that camera. cough,

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schoolboard adjusted boundaries and move students to the and Ringgold school. The undoing gold school. 5 Teske Woodford transferred student stayed high and those

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already at the school. what classes and high academic achievement, similar stories can be found across the country for the past for the year right now. is record

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proven track record of what walk. The pieces are in place for Lewis to be a successful school. It has dedicated teacher and back. But the

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school need more student new programs and fixing things proven solution. The school board needs to examine the full scope, a boundary changes that are needed right now. You

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can vote on this, too, that changes when protests seen when ending segregation and even changing with Constand badly but school today, a built and those changes that

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would need that your actions, decide the future because you cannot claim that which provides equal educational opportunities denying its students same and make capacity across Fairfax High

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book.

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>> Thank you. Frey. What but a

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month. Happened to metal.

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From what we have to move you over from an attendee to panelist. tried to do that. You declined to allow us to do that. My

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tech teams going to try to do it again. If you decline again, we will have to move on. Frey. What now? Yes. Can

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you hear me now? Yes, please. Go ahead. Good >> My name is funny with

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something that's It is a that will waste to The knife. I would like to focus on one put kids clothes, the Sun Sea. We

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see 70 appreciate the if is the center to call Think book and that he buys The assignment. But I'll admit, woman up what any quote. That

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gunman is today the persecuted his points, even an estimated just immense south days one important question. Spend them

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up in old bucket to broke needed age. How anybody. Neighboring communities.

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Neighboring communities. We shared the same joke on the roads, but I just put a shun Nate, menu offers the same.

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Quinn said so these Boeing that any of you. It a budding community faces Chevy. The said the same to me. That's a

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come senses. Why it signify outcomes? with a skiing, fish out that he's meant we have seen for asking for And so it cause a donation that for Web

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that was extended to all of me that in coming up, we picked up with the U.S. because the book, it so little catawissa before making the final

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decision. key pass. broke it out and Shine TV high Thank

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you. Aaron. Laura. >> My name is Aaron Lohr. And

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I'm here once again on behalf of the Louis community for years, we've talked about enrollment boundaries, feeder patterns and possible solutions. Tonight. I want to ask a different question. What problem are we actually trying

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to solve if the problem is declining enrollment, then we have to talk about enrollment. If the problem is an equitable opportunities that we have to talk about resources, if the problem is the long-term

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sustainability of Lewis High school, then we have to be willing to evaluate every reasonable option. But if we believe that adding one program alone solve all those problems, we're solving the

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wrong problem. Programming is important. Every student deserves strong programming programming can enhance a school. It cannot by itself. So a structural enrollment in

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balance, but it could if it could, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I've heard words that gave our community hope. I've heard that Lewis is a priority. I've heard that. We need to think differently,

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but hope doesn't change outcomes. Public decisions do promises build hope votes reveal priorities. If the data tells us additional option should be evaluated, then we

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should have the courage to evaluate them. Decisions should be driven by evidence and by what's best for the students, not by who is the loudest or what is politically easiest leadership means asking difficult questions

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means challenging assumptions. It means being willing to determine whether the solution we're choosing actually solves the problem. We're here to solve. And before you vote on anything that impacts Lewis. I

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have one request come spend a day at our school. Walk our house fit in our classrooms. Talk to our students. Meet our

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teachers. You will see what we see every single day. You'll see incredible students who deserve every opportunity that every other Fairfax County student pass then ask yourself

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one question. If this was your child's school, would you honestly believe you've done

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enough? Carolyn Moore? >> Good evening. I'm Carol Moore. I'm a parent to a

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junior at Lewis High School and 8th grader at King Middle School. And I'm here today to make good Trump. I urge you tonight to vote in favor of the motion that Mr. Dunne submitted last week D***

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Spring and the Brenmar Park Elementary School boundary study which is supposed to strengthen the Lewis High school pyramid for a view on this board represent families that live in the Lewis High

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school pyramid. 3 of you are at large members that represent all of us as well. We are here tonight you to actually represent us. There

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shouldn't be any issue passing this motion. All we're asking you to do is vote yes, to explore some options to bring some kids to our school if you

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don't if you don't vote yes on this amendment, you're going on public record that you the representatives for the families that are being affected by these decisions. You're not interested in

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helping us. Lewis High School is the smallest high school in the county. For instance, we have a waiver to play classics of Lenox with the rest of the school district were actually class for school, which means

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we get trounced every time we play everybody and nobody wants to play us. So. We don't have the numbers. We just are out gunned by student body

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size. We barely have enough kids for a JV and varsity team. Let alone even trying to have a freshman teams. We've got freshman out there playing seniors. The near schools that are Class 4 in Loudoun and

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Stafford counties. Have you driven on? 66 was found or 95 southbound between 4 and 06:00PM. Yeah, I think you know what I'm talking about. There are many more examples what heard and we'll hear from

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other parents night. But we're here to tell you, we are a school in crisis. You have to do some triage. We've lost an arm and all we're getting is a Band-Aid. John Lewis, the

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great civil rights leader, our school is named for said. When you see something that is not right. >> Not Not just you have to speak up. You have to say something. You have to do

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something. Please do something. Thank you.

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>> Darcy Healy. Good evening. Let me start with a quick story in junior. My son was caught cheating on a physics

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test with his phone. unpleasant surprise a month later. An English teacher contacted me and was wondering why my son had done a complete

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one. 80 degrees in his. scores. Homework assignments and engagement. And it was a really profound discovery for the teacher. And I to realize

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that the phone with a severe destruction in school. And so I come to you today with the lens of talking about the 5

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motions on technology. And so first, I really think you should supports motion wanted. Yes, kids through kindergarten through second grade. And if we can even push it to 6th

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grade, no phones in the classroom. I think that would be important. Highly recommend. You guys listen to psychology. Social psychologist Jonathan Height and his research on. In the

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classroom. The second motion I wanted to talk about was motion. Number 3 about the whiteness for teachers. I

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think this is great. It's a start, but I am concerned of over blocking legitimate educational sites. I just want to make sure that you give parents transparency on what

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is white listed so that we can have a say. The other thing just to mention is that with the White list, teen. We don't

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want to get hung up when it because that would just create more friction. And finally, the last motion that I want to talk about this motion 5 that is for students on it. Peace

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and 5, 0, fours. I really I think it's important that they should not be mandated to be

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using screens if they're having trouble. And one.

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>> Caldwell, Dugan. >> Good evening. My name is called I mean, if you member and operational employee of

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Fcps, I'm here to ask that regulation for 4, 1, 7, the telework Reagan be reverted to version one. First, I'd like to address the contention from leadership claiming that hybrid tell a work is a

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bargaining issue. This claim is false and the actions leadership at taking prove their claim is insincere Fcps allowed hybrid. Tell a work since 2001, the FDA contract was ratified in November 2024,

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the hybrid telework change was announced April 2025. and took effect July. 25 effectively discontinuing hybrid telework. For that timeline. Leadership

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waited until the contract was ratified before sneaking in on bargained unilateral changes that discontinued. The 25 year-old practice of Fcps hybrid. Tell a work. Leadership has the option of

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demonstrating their claim is sincere by immediately reverting the Reg diversion one, which was the stated was in when few contract was ratified, then bargaining about it in the upcoming negotiations. Second, I'd like

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to address the contention from leadership claiming that fcps staff are only allowed exactly what is in the collective bargaining agreement. CBA this claim is false. In reality,

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the CBA is a floor, not a ceiling. Fcps can go above what's written in the CBA but not below it. The easiest solution to this whole issue, including any potential equity

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issues stemming from hybrid teleworking differences few and administrative staff contracts is to revert. The tele were corrected, version one and apply it to all operational and administrative

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staff. In conclusion. Leadership's claim that this is a barking issue, does not align with the actions they've taken. Additionally, all confusion and any potential equity issues can be resolved

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by reverting the telework or egg diversion one and applying it to all operational and

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administrative staff. >> Profit at the long

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>> Good evening. Members of the board. My name is provide resident dust to undercut feet. If you look at the neighborhood map in your packet, it was storm broke along the village court. These

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are just in communities. These are back to back. We share the same Locust Street, the salmon or delays and the exact same safety conditions. The blood in Katy billion commitment to

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border mission to defeat back and realized one of core Simon, a chart that you got to come in again. But and common sense judgment. But because I want to know, but herds are not just physically are just

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because you link if you are deeply confused as to why to invoke is here to compete defend much more. It has on outcome. got an assignment talk in and check any of other students a safe little

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community. Shifting us to rescue them storm. It is cool. Completely changes that forces that was clued, bed and I was and young student. was that a key onto the high-speed little

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grainy. ended voting to change during morning we taking children all safe local knowledge and pushing them on a massive not have laid off. This transition introduces here. Traffic bottlenecks,

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actions and delays and exposes the windshield into unnecessary hide-outs. All of it, you know, benefit or time distance. Even still in books of small student population.

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Keeping you know, a good inch. And kid and damage is the safest and the most logical solution. We got a community that the and added on to propose tonight. We just asking one simple question. If

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neighboring community should identical safety over the conditions should and ABC right into consideration as Respectfully ask you to be a strong group. One more time using the exact principles

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that guide your decision for one individual. We asking any special treatment and just

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when equal consideration. Thank you. Joy. One.

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Good evening. My name is joy and I'm the resident of Stony Brook at Westfield. talked to so first, I would like to think school board Fcps Stafford thoughtful work.

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>> That has gone into the boundary review process. They understand this decisions are not easy. They're complex and we appreciate that. Our committee's concerns was part of that discussion on Tuesday.

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However, we respectfully ask you to take for another final review of spill park at Westfield before this proposal is finalized. We sincerely appreciate you that our

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neighboring neighboring neighborhood communities, Marni village court, received additional consideration. They are reassigned and give us

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community hope. Not because we want something different, but because we believe similar communities would be in Valley late it using similar principles. We're not asking

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you to redesign the whole thing. We're asking for one small refinement that would create a more consistent and equitable outcome. We're not asking for special treatment. We're simply asking that the

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same planning principles be applied consistently. Before casting your final vote We respectfully ask you remember the families behind those

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boundary lines. Please remember that one small adjustment can last team difference for one small committee. Tonight. You have

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the opportunity to ensure that neighboring communities are treated with the same soulful conservation. Thank you for a

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time and for your service. And

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you're fetch. Andrew Fetch. Joshua Chastain.

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>> to rise. A first grader in 4th grader from the Mason District. We could talk to about literacy. When you think about someone, you know, is always on their phone. You know that person. Keep that in

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mind. I hope you keep that in mind. tonight. When devices replace human connection, the harm adds up, especially for young children who learn through play conversation and collaboration. That begins

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with Pre-K and kindergarten. That's why urge you to vote. Yes to devices for proof in Pre-K and kindergarten tonight. that Weigh the benefits with the actual

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evidence that there is truly value there. I also urge you to continue with the motion to inventory of CPS, gender AI tools and prohibit their use until a foreign policy is established. I'm not oppose

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are full intelligence by any means. In fact, they work in it what they and it I could support adaptive instruction, tutoring and flipped classroom, teaching models.

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And so the value is very clear. Only a calculator gender of AI does not produce fix the predictable outcome. It's extremely important. Understand it is of all the Nader, unprecedented speed

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making it difficult for safeguards. Policies in technical controls to keep pace before SVU use policy. ought to know what tools are being used and are available

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right now. And understand how student data is being collected. What safeguards are in place if any. And whether the educational benefits truly outweighs the risk is that our

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ally even worth it next will be totally different. That is not anti technology is simply responsible management and governance. Please vote yes. AI is something on the

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horizon. It's already here shaping the tools we use the information we consume in. The decision we make is quite in the quiz as we all know, as with any transformation, transformative technology, the

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best defense against misuse is understanding. I literacy gives people the ability to understand how the technology works, where it is, helpful in

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where caution is needed. I urge the board to increase.

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>> Kathleen Connell. Kathleen Connell. Nitin funded.

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>> Hey, good evening. My name is and pandemic. I do support all the motions regarding a high today. I hope you will, too. I'm here not to

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regenerate the dangers of AI own children because this board needs to reassert his governance and oversight rule. On a strategic governance manual requires us to protect

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the division's assets and public credibility. Under DEO 7 Eaa one. We are prohibited from permitting any imprudent condition and must protect our

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most valuable assets. We talked to data. And a long-term visitor independence. Currently on incomplete policies being

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exploited. AI companies view our students as what would be called in a shark tank episode as a cheap customer acquisition cost for securing

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a lifetime customer base. By allowing the lackadaisical pace. Why these companies lock us We're not just awaiting fought policy. We are allowing

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not students to be mined as lifelong commodities. From a fiduciary perspective under article, be one. This is a dereliction of 5 stewardship

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duties. This in action creates immense legal exposure, liability for data breaches and non negotiable. Terms of service signed by children.

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That will haunt this division long after these vendors have moved on. Motion. Number 3 is only responsible path. It

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mandates and inventory of Janay AI tools and prohibits the use until we fulfill 12 duty to establish formal ethical governance policies.

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It ensures that we treat students as protective stakeholders and not products.

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>> Noting I governance is the most urgent. Thank you.

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>> Please play the video testimony of Stephanie Lundquist good evening.

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Transparency is important with 13 girls from Fairfax, High school bravely came forward is here to tell school administrators that they had been sexually assaulted in the hallway during school hours.

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>> We all agreed the situation was extremely concerning. In March, parents applauded your move to initiate when you claim to be an independent investigation to provide accountability and ensure that

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our children are safe at school. A closer look at the contract you signed with McGuire Woods, law firm shows this investigation wasn't at all independents but actually

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a public relations stunt. The contract states McGuire Woods was retained to conduct a confidential attorney client, privileged investigation. The investigation has been

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undertaken for the purpose of providing legal advice to clients. Last month, Dr Reid announced the external investigation confirmed that administration acted promptly

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and appropriately to stop this behavior. 13 girls were sexually assaulted in the hallways. Are we expected to take your word on everyone's

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prompt responses apparently so because when I submitted a FOIA request for the report, you refuse to share any of it. It seems suspicious to say the least. District leaders have

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publicly stated the review's conclusions in addressing a matter of significant public concern. But the public is not permitted to evaluate the evidence and reasoning

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underlying those conclusions. You cannot simultaneously portrayed investigation as an exercise in public accountability and shield its findings from public scrutiny as privileged legal advice.

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Parents and students deserve more. Be honest about your legal expenses. It's shameful to say that your payments to law firms for image polishing our external independent

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investigations. We know better. Thank you. >> Police play the video

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testimony of Logan Young. >> Good evening. I'm Logan Young parent of a rising first grader in Mystic since District PTA officer and speaking on behalf of parents for intentional tech room,

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parent to I cannot describe disconcerting it's been walking down the hall during the instructional days so often in near silence because

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the 100 kindergarteners across for teachers at my daughter's school were all 4 too consumed with that penguin on their IPads as an AP dad as well. I worry that the differentiated

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learning my daughter deserves will translate simply into more screen time. DG pedagogy profoundly detrimental for good kids, downright hurtful to the twice exceptional

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hailing from a multi-generational family of public educators who stretch from South Carolina to New York. I know all too well that curriculum much culture cannot

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change overnight. But this right here, my kids browser history. The last full week of school is unacceptable any and everywhere to wit. I urge board to or from all 5 of miss

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mayor Mister Dunn's motions, which I trust will receive a free and fair vote. We need motion want to protect our most precious cohort from compulsory devices motion to

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establish literal storage particles as well as motion 3 to suspend access to generative Agent whatever eyeballs into before the 12 you can proffer a policy

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proper. Apropos. This board recently extended contract to keep 4th grade social studies in silico. Again, I get budget cuts to lead the transition detectable textbooks, but it

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does beg bigger question. How exactly do Chromebooks help? 9 year-olds comprehend 400 plus years of Virginia history. These of these fcps strategic

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plan not unrelated. The Board of Supervisors just unanimously approved a 2700 acre plan to transform Centerville into a high-density center with

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thousands of new mixed use units. Chantilly seems next.

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>> Please play the video testimony submitted by Amanda Campbell. >> Good evening. My name is Amanda Campbell. And I'm speaking tonight is advocacy co-chair for Fairfax County, SEPTA. We have been advocating

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for speed services for a decade now is little change in practice. You wish to be clear up front or comments tonight are not a reflection of school-based staff. So he's are working with case loads far beyond reasonable capacity

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or comments or about the systemic barriers and the action or rather inaction of leadership. SEPTA has been tool for multiple years now that central offices, counsel department chairs. And that's a piece that the idea that the

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classroom is quote, language which environments is not an acceptable reason to deny valuations are services. Yeah. We continue to hear from families across the district being given this reasoning. This remains a systemic

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problem. What's even more problematic is that it is our students who had the most significant need who are being tonight, even if a sick of valuation are non speaking students and Caesars since

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2022, there's been over 3% increase in a C users receiving no speech services at all. But the highest concentrations in are fairly is free. Currently 62% preschool AC users. And 44% of

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kindergarten ace users receive no speech services to support the language development needed to use their devices. Teachers do not have this training and inclusion expands. We must remember that

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inclusion is not just a physical placement. It is the ability to communicate to participate and belong and that requires access to appropriate language support that the students are currently being tonight. A CPS

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demonstrate Staley what it can do when it prioritizes world-class programs from foreign language immersion to AP and T J the system clearly understands how to build intensive specialized supports when it chooses to ace users

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deserve commitments. Communication access. I implore you to audit speech services for a Caesars including evaluations, service, access and outcomes because the does not reflect

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individualized, equitable decision making. There roughly 1400 AC users and CPS a middle schools for the children. When will their access to communication, education and their future received the same

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urgency as other programs Fcps rightly invests Thank you. Mr. Vice chairman that was our

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last Speaker. >> Thank Calling Mr. Shostak receiving Representative matters.

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>> Yeah. So I currently just. Good evening, everyone. you all some here last weekend. Just want to thank and one for all the responses I got from

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that. I currently do not have a lot of updates to give you all. the one thing I will say is that advisory committee applications were work on and hopefully will be really soon. just in the interest keeping

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>> In order to comply next and item confirmation, a certification close, many complaints in order to comply with Section 2.2 dash. 37 12 do the code of Virginia is necessary for the board to certify the since the Fairfax County school board convened a closed meeting on July 16

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2026. To the best of each member's knowledge. Only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements and only such public business matters as were identified in the motion convening the closed

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meeting were heard discussed or considered by the board during the closed meeting. Do I have a motion? Mr. Moon, is there a second, St.

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John-Cunning all in favor. Miss Anderson. Mister Frisch Erin, Mr. Moon Ms. Dixit. Mister Dunne. Miss St. John-Cunning and Doctor Anderson and myself all

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opposed. Any marnan and the clerk read a vote. How is misleading putting his miss

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lady on the screen? It's Lee. How do you vote on the closed?

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Mr. Gannon Ms. Lady. >> Confirmation of action taken a closed That was 9, 0, to you. That motion carries. Thank Called on Mr. Fresh for

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Clothes Motion. Thank you. >> I move to adopt the hearing officer's recommendation and deny the employees grievance as discussed in the closed session. Is there a second? All in favor? As Anderson Mr.

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Frisch Erin Mister Moon. Miss Dixit. Misty John-Cunning and Dr. Anderson and myself all opposed. Any abstentions. Mr.

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Dan and Ascension and Ms. Lady with Mister Dunne away from

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the table. Clerk read >> 0 to one the motion carries. Thank you. I call on Doctor Anderson for a motion.

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I move to adopt the recommendation of the fact-finding panel that the employee identified in closed session be dismissed. Is there a second second? All in favor.

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>> Miss Anderson, Mr. Frisch Erin, Mr. Moon Miss Dixit Dr. Anderson, Miss Saint John coming and myself in posed.

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>> Without objection, I'd like to teach me without objection. All opposed. And abstentions. Mr. Dan Erin. Lady with Martin

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away from the table. Gregory, the vote. >> 7, 0, 3, 1, The motion carries.

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>> Thank Colin Dr. Anderson, for Motion. I move that the school board denied the petition for a license. Revocation of the employee identified in the closed session. So second second. All

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in favor. Mr. Fresh Erin, Mr. Moon Miss Dixit. Misty John-Cunning and Doctor Anderson and myself all

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opposed. Miss Anderson and abstentions Mr. Mr. Dan and Ms. Lady and Mystics your attention now Mystic's. It is

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>> I'm sorry. I still trying to. Could we please do that >> All in favor. Mr. Fresh. Erin, Mr. Moon Dr. Anderson,

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Miss St. John-Cunning and myself. All opposed. Miss Anderson abstentions. Ms. Dixit. Mr. and Ms. Lady with

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Mister Dunne away from the table. >> 6, 1, 3, 1, The motion

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carries. Thank you. >> Action item some 0, 0, 3, for 2026 year in review. I call on Miss Dixit for Motion.

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>> I want I move that the school board approved revenue and expenditure adjustment as detailing the agenda item. Is there a second a second mystic's like speak your motion.

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>> No, I just don't just want to do our budget team. Under the guidance the burden does an amazing job. And we all this good to see you. And numbers see for the event to thank you so much for sharing

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that. >> Thank you. Miss Anderson was a speech or second. >> Ms. Anderson: I won't repeat everything that my colleague just said, but I do appreciate the work of the staff on this and I appreciate

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the overall support for a plan that best utilizes the fund with funds for the eyes on the

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future. >> discussions and all recognize, Mr. Moved Mis Marias. First Speaker.

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>> Thank you. I just had a question on. It. Regards the subject line. 166 put 1 million and it talks about it's cool. And multi year

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projects carryover includes system might multi year projects and it says and school requests for critical needs funding. I was wondering how that gets determined. What

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is a critical needs funding how that is determined and given out. >> Thank you as mayor. And I know that that's a topic of high interest and this bird

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>> Yeah, we have AM. A pretty extensive critical needs process that year and every year school principals going to air portal and they

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identify any critical needs that they have it that which they have funds available to carry over into the next year. This year. I think the the

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requests that were funded were about $700,000. And because we limit the approvals to items that are some kind of compliance issue or something

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that they've already committed to. But this year, we're very limited in the amount funds we had available. And so only about 700,000 is what was approved.

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>> And I also believe that we didn't have any department >> we've really diminish the department. The Central Office department ability to access those funds. Is that correct?

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Miss Burton? >> That's correct. There's also a process for departments and again, funds were very limited this year, but we were allocate able to allocate some

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funds to departments for again, items that are critical or unanticipated those kinds of things. The departments put

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together requests and those requests totaled 65 million dollars. And we were able to fund 6 Million.

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>> Ms. Meren: OK, thank you to jog my memory that we have the conversation about how much the schools could carry over from their school based budget because it was earlier this year. And at first I thought that's where this was headed, that this is just the amount that schools were carrying

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over from each of their individual budgets. But now knowing that their 65 million dollars, it was allocated. >> Kind know. 65 billion was

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what was requested by departments. 6 million is what we were able to fund due to the limited mandate here in funding. But the school's carry over the 700,000 that

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I'm talking about is not the 10% carry over. That is included in I think its regulation that each school can carry over 10% of their

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budget into the next year. If they have those funds available and that is not part of the 700,000. The 700,000 is on top of that. And think the

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actual. 10%, it's about 5 Million. >> So can you just clarify what is this 166 million for them? And so if I'm missing

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it. It's that balance carryover. It's all of these things together. >> Yes, that bulk of you may

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recall MS Anderson asked about this at the last meeting. The bulk of it is for schools project carry over the school's 10% is one piece of

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it. If 60, it's actually 6 Million. But in addition to that, the project carry over are for things like if CPS on

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car Lawson enterprise technology Systems and HR. The hcn project textbooks and iced tea. These are multi year projects. They're very

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expensive. And Aggregate funds from year to year in anticipation of the item coming due. And so that's where all the simple projects are. Okay. Thank you for

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clarifying >> thank you, Dr. Anderson. Thank you. Just kind of picking up on a question that I did asked last week regarding the one 66 we're

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talking about textbooks. It had asked if you had an opportunity to kind of disaggregate that have you have you had a chance to do such yet.

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>> I'm sorry. What is your question? The 166.1 million. I last time we were discussing textbooks in terms of what was

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available not have that available at that point in terms of what was in each of those buckets because somewhere textbooks somewhere fcps on. Did you have a chance

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to disaggregate that a little bit since our meeting last week? >> I have not. This weekend.

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getting ready to tell me what he said. he said that is take

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6. 51 million of the one. 66

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is textbooks me. >> Thank you. And the fcps I

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guess commitment is how much. >> Well, information technology is. 46.4 million.

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And that is fcps on a cart a lot. They also have great centralized assessment planning system enterprise, it support and integration. Thank

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you. That's very helpful. >> On Page 3 of the report item, see where it talks about the school board, flexibility reserves. The one 0 million

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dollars. Is that what the totality of the assistance and >> that is not all utilized. For example, I do not. All of us have to assistance. So if

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that is the case, then is it less than a million that is transferred? Can you just help me understand that one a little bit. That is the value

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of one 3rd of school board assistance because planned that is in place. Is that part

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of the one-third of the board assistance will be covered by the school board, flexibility, Reserve. In fiscal 27. And so typically the school board

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flexibility Reserve is for 8 Million. And so we've set aside 7 million for that as a result. And then 1 million has been allocated to cover one 3rd, school board assistance

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as directed. Thank you for that clarification. >> Dr. Anderson: And lastly, I heard parts of the discussion regarding the 6.8 million for the department carryover is that you say that was schools

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and and central office. >> No schools are. 6.7 million total. And then the departments are similar number.

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>> Where is that? I'm just trying to. So the 6.8 represents. Schools get scary.

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10%. And that number's near 6 Million. In addition to that, they requested about 700,000 so 6.7 was allocated to schools as part of

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carryover. As far as departments the request from their apartments with 65 Million. And we were able to fund 6 point something. So

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about 10% of what was requested was funded. Thank you. Much appreciated. >> just want to add, I think

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the 10% was similar to what the building's carry over a 10%. >> And Mr. Men. >> Mr. Moon: I think in

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election I move to amend fy 2026. Find out what you You to provide the transportations. Tune on loan to the elementary and middle school students who

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decide to stay and do her school. Rush under the fading options in the comprehensive on the change fees. The school board meet on January. 22 2026

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with the funding to provide these shows. But Haitians in the amount of million dollars to come from the trends for to the head of. Mr. Men would

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like. Speak your motion. Thank you. You know, Mike, I don't have to be my mic the season. Start time. I'm trying to provide equitable transportation's to issue

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Bonds who exercising feet options. recent comprehensive on the changes to school food.

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Was the first time in 40 years land. It's the first time in my car. You just Google member. Uber. Pretty good case. We are not providing

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food. Transportation's 2, she one exercise scene. Beijing options with the pollen. The changes. And he just First time just came up for

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discussion was in December. And at the time we get grant of she putting condoned, chose to present a recommendation not to provide any

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transportation. Let's too. And you want access it. option. And then. In February, when he discussed again, should Putin can recommendation list? 44

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high school seniors. Fortunately school moved. To some degree with the superintendent's recommendation in and one evening crew or the high

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school students. Who exercising fees and fees options to get the transportations. It was better. It was a minute to play. You can just become a nation. However, however, I

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felt that that way 2 short of what the students needs whatever transportation's point or deluge who exercising

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TR white to education. At that time. At the time, majority of the you know, felt that we did not have what you know from the sources funding to support

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Transportation's for Lourdes students exercising fee to actions. Now we do. Now we do with a fine W E B, you can use

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1.8 million dollars out the 25 down. That's being proposed to go into have transplant fund to be used for purposes. Not

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only that General Assembly has given on Saudi million dollars. That's a beyond beyond what he put you know, next budget. The can use 1.8

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million dollars and he's feeding option transportation. What Henri be needed for the next 2 years because after 2 years. Florida students. deal

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would not be anyone facing options. It is important part in one. to our students

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forcing. Basically exercise another feature, options students will affected. Come

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from these 16 scores. Indeed. For law. Gruff too. Honda or Creek. Parker on. We want to

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sign Valley whisk prior. Franklin Middle School school middle school, Katherine Johnson, Middle School Army nurse fell on me to school. And Sam believes crews. Do you

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need Transportations. Thank you. Dr. Speak your second. >> Dr. Anderson: Yes, thank you to miss him. And for reviving this conversation very clearly, as he mentioned,

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it was stated that we did not have the funds to support months ago when this was brought. Well, we actually have a real opportunity here with the additional funds that

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we were not expecting from the state. We have an opportunity in order to actually give out kids access to the phasing options that we have decided

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they were allowed to have. Some of students cannot access that option without transportation from us. The same arguments that were made for high schools are the same arguments that are made for

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the students who have been at their elementary schools for 5 years, 6 years, even in some instances. And then they will have to finish their final years elsewhere. Similar situation at the middle

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school. We have the opportunity with these additional 30 million dollars. We're not using all of it. 1.8 of those additional dollars just to really create some

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equity for the students. I think it's a it's a great spend and I'm really hoping we can have some support on this for our students. Thank you,

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Miss Anderson. >> I just have a few questions. First, do we know what next year's costs would be for transportation? For the same group of kids that we're

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talking about. It's 1.8 million for for next year. But the year because it would be 2 years. So do we have any indication like what we're

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committing to overtime? >> Excuse me. It would be the same Anderson. Okay. So because you know, it's the least for the bus and the salaries for the driver got just so we're talking 1.8 for

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both years I have a couple of questions related to what long-term effects of this. Dre was. Our budget look like for

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next year at this point. >> At this point, I know verdant I have discussed at the budget does it's looking very it's it looks this

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looking to be a more difficult budget year this year for sure. >> And then the other question I had is what are the staffing

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implications if we make decisions now that cause phase students to change their decision as to which school that they're attending. What would be the staffing implications for schools of that would maybe receiving

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more students for this fall for this fall? Was there I guess would there be an impact? >> We would have to go back and calculate that. I'm not sure I would have to go back

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and look at how many students for a particular school and if they were in the same grade level. Mr. Solomon, we probably I think Mr. Moon right off a number of schools.

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We have to go back and look. But we could transfer staff, I suppose from. One school to another for moving students back. We'd have to do some

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staff transfers. >> Ms. Anderson: Okay. And then the final question I have is taking money from this. chair from the Health Fund. I understand that we're self-insured so money that's moved into the health. And I imagine already has Is there

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an impact of losing 1.8 million dollars out of the home front? >> we are self insured and the

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healthcare premium stabilization Reserve is actually. >> The the reserve are talking about. And I think that. And you know, for a variety of

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reasons, we've had an unanticipated high employee number of claims in particular, not just an increased health care costs, but also pharmacy costs. And

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this has been a bit of a national trend, but certainly seeing it in I know that we actually minimized. We had wanted to add more to the

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health care premiums stable is that stabilization reserve and we're going to need to add more next year. But in lieu you know, you know, it's all a

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balancing situation. If we're not able to provide money to stabilize the reserve, then we would need to raise rates for our staff because being

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self-insured, we have to be able to cover our claims and the alternative is raising employee premiums. If we don't have the money and the stabilization reserve. Okay.

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So. >> Ms. Anderson: Well, I understand the makers of the motion and the importance of this first for particular parts of our community. I am extremely concerned about making this decision about more information as to exactly

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what the impacts would be. So for that reason, I am comfortable with what we've been doing so far and that we have been treating the phased

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in students more as student transfers and we don't provide transportation for any student transfer as far as I understand unless it is for

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for very specific programming. So I am comfortable with where we are currently with transportation. Mr.

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>> Ms. Meren: Thank you. I really appreciate the makers of the motion for bringing this to something I was very passionate about at the end of last year to the point that I believe I had the motion adjusted and continue to advocate for it. Treating students who are transferring

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using the transfer policy is not appropriate because there should be applied. The boundary policy should be applied. We did not fulfill our mission to fulfill the

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boundary policy. Using the Health fund. You know, we know the costs are constantly rising and yet this is for phasing. So this is not a long-term cost. It won't be

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rolled into the base of the budget we explored using school board reserve funds, but the school board was opposed to that, even though there were 7 million dollars in that the board are ready

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turn that down. So look, either we're for equity or we're not at the time in the winter. We didn't know the exact schools that would be hit. And when my colleague he read the names of schools, we

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know that those schools have populations that need extra support. If we are about equity, we will fulfill the boundary policy that we have said employee and we can do this and make a difference for

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these kiddos for a short period of time. I also do want to share the last board we approved transportation for. I think it was Dranesville said

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of schools. I think the amount was actually more. Then this amount. If I'm correct, it was over a million dollars. So we're talking about helping students at multiple schools in our highest need areas

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generally to the fill the boundary policy. We said we do for a limited amount of time. That certainly has my vote.

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Thank you, Mr. Just a couple comments. Yes, we featured. 1st quarter help fund a wise.

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>> Mr. Moon: Patient and the information provided by staff. if I 2026. Beginning, that

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ends for scored kind and flexible benefits, funds premiums who reading the whole thing. Well, the stony pretty

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0.3 million dollars, which was it to prese? So he that's ending demands decrees over 22 million from the beginning.

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That means 22, but we are setting aside. We are putting in 20 5 million So 30 million dollars. And boy, Dan, the

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amount Of course, I always wake Com if he can put up camp hope Putin watch or injuries

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are. At same time, we cannot transportation needs with those in need. The students

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for next 2 years. Dr. Anderson Ms. Lady. Thank you. And thank you for the discussion regarding the health fund. It would be my hope.

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>> Dr. Anderson: That when we receive the superintendents recommendations for the dollars coming in from the state that that could be one of the things that we replenish. We're talking about

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1.8 million dollars. The school board will continue to have a reserve of 7 million dollars after we're down here. Just sitting there. Just sitting there and we have

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students who need our help. And I media schools. These are not the parents. We can drive their students. These are not the communities in which.

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Going through the transfer process and the way that has been described is going to be easy. We have 8th graders. Who have to move schools. That is

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really difficult to deal with because those parents have it any other choice. As a division of over 4 billion dollar budget. We're talking

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about 1.8 million dollars. We have spent. >> More for less. >> Dr. Anderson: And I struggle with the fact that we

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have now the small opportunity because what we're receiving from the state is greater than anticipated. We are unable to pivot to support these

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families. It's either we believe in We don't.

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>> Thank you. Yeah, I've got few thoughts on First of all, I 100% do believe in equity. also believe that all of our schools are good. And I

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personally have received no emails from anyone. Who has an issue with this. A lot of families have just decided to

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send their students to where they've been boundaries because that's new pair of it to their middle and high school. They can make the friends that they're going to travel on to to the next school. And I you know, as

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I've said all along, I think that once you establish yourself in high school, it's paramount that you stay there. But what happens prior to that

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you know, I don't I don't think it's a inequity not provide transportation. other thing I'm concerned about is we haven't really approach this summer. We're not going

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debate it right now, but we've still got to figure out after school school programs because that's not getting funding from the Board of Supervisors. And so I don't I don't know

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that. I want to take the 1.8 from the health fund to do that either because as someone who work for the system for as many years as I did. What's

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happened with health care. It's a burden that keeps getting put on faculty and staff. In a profession that's underpaid but over educated. I

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just hate for more important or more burden on all of our staff. So I believe strongly in schools are great. I stand behind I think like I've said

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before, I think one of the best things we've learned from the study is that nobody's calling us and ask us to change their school. It's the opposite because they like

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their school. In fact, once people just, you know, step foot into new spaces they get just as excited because they realize that there's that that excitement and all of our

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schools, all they're uniquely different in many ways, the educational offerings are robust and the kids are going to do well. So I'm not going

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support this >> All right. Everybody has had a first turn his head when I'm going to ask a couple questions. I thinking of the it's the first one. The 1.8 million. Just to clarify.

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That's for one year. So they would have to be a funding source identified for the second year. >> The

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>> the funding that came from the state that's being referenced. Remind me is that one time funding for is that recurring funding? >> I will defer to Miss Burton say think there was a little

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of both to be honest. This burden. It's it's largely recurring phones. Okay. Thank you. And the last question. If

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the 1.8 is for the first year. What would be the mechanism to funded in the outlying years. What's the source of the funding for the out years? Are you referring to the funding

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little the motion wealthy may press for the maker, the motion, but for somebody if pulling 1.8 out of for year one. But there isn't a funding

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source identified for your to wear with your 2. Well, that would have to be yet be determined. We don't we haven't budgeted for it at this time. So we would have

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to. Go back next year when we did the budget next year and included in next year's budget, I would assume. All

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right. Thank you. >> Okay. I see no with a light. So Nicole, for the vote, this is on the amendment. The first to put up

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on the screen. Okay. All in favor of the amendment has put on the screen. This mayor and

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Mister Moon, Mr. Dunne Dr. Anderson. All opposed. Miss Anderson, Mr. Freshness, Dixon, Mr. Dan and the St. John-Cunning and myself.

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>> Lady opposed clerk read the vote. >> For 7, the amendment fails.

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Thank you. >> Back to the main motion which is Fy 2026 year in package, have no lights and call the vote all in favor of

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the school board. Adopting the recommendation. This Anderson Mr. Frisch Erin Ms. Dixit Mister Dunne, Mister Dan and

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Marcia. Miss St. John-Cunning, Ms. Lady and myself. Any opposed. Mr. Moon Dr. Anderson, the clerk read a vote.

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>> 9 to motion carries. Okay. Thank you. >> some 0, 4, Skyview High school in Western pyramids boundary study icon, Dre for presentation.

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>> Thank you, Mr. McDaniel. I'm actually not presenting again because it's the same veces his son that I gave last week. I will say I do have a

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couple comments. We did review the. Capacity charts and what we had not been very clear about is the fact that the

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have boundary study actually has a a step down. In other words, the enrollment doesn't change in the immediate year because we're facing the new

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high school in and facing the boundaries. And so we felt it would be clear to lay that out over a period of years and also what we hadn't included

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was as students were being moved from high school to high school. >> There are several high schools that are experiencing or in areas of the county experiencing significant

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potential growth in terms of housing construction starts and permitting and so forth. So we also needed to do an estimate of students coming in based on new housing and that

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had not been included in last week's charts. So we've updated the chart on Page 13 and I think it's also fair to say that in particular with

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Westfield. High School, we noted that they're currently are 13 trailers on the site at Westfield High School. And as one of our goals is to

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diminish sewer, begin to perhaps move away. Some of from some of our trailers that again will impact the capacity

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at Westfield High School with fewer trailers, the capacity of the remaining building, even though it's fixed on program. Placement. Will

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result. I think when it's all said and done and about in the mid 80% capacity for Westfield. I think that there

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is certainly concern. >> About >> high schools and not just in the western area, since we're talking about the western boundary right now. When high schools lose

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students. We know that staff deal with students, but we also know that there are a significant number of new housing starts. And I think. Even this evening there was a comment about the Centerville

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High School or excuse me. The Centreville area being looked at by a board of supervisors in terms of new housing as well. So we know that that's an area of the county that's

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growing. And so we want to make sure we're thoughtful about planning ahead for those starts and making sure that programming isn't compromised at our schools. So happy to

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take questions. And I know Mister Smith is here this evening and played a large role in leading the Western boundary work. And really want to publicly thank him for that, Mr. Gordon's also here

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this evening. So we're available to answer any questions. essentially the boundaries were recommending have remained the same. >> Mister Chair, vice chair, maybe recognize, please. I've

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got your message. So Dre. The question is because we've got this power point up here. Can you just go through the slides of the power point? >> Through power point, go through this light of the power point. We know that this has been previously presented.

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There were some updates and we know there's no boundary change changes. We can go through those slides and then we can open the floor for discussion. Okay. >> Madam Clerk, would you

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start with the title slide? Please review that Power point presentation. >> So this evening, I'll be

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presenting Skyview high school western pyramid boundary recommendation. What's changed is Crossed out the word preliminary because this is no

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longer preliminary. This is the final recommendation and it was preliminary last week. Next slide, please. the

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boundary again. Again involved primarily the 5 Western boundaries based on community feedback early even though our consultant early on had looked

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at multiple boundaries in elementary, middle and high based on community feedback. The elementary boundaries were not change during review,

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although some feeder pattern certainly were. So next slide. Policy. 81, 30 prioritize the following criteria recommending school

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boundaries. These were the access to programming. The proximity enrollment capacity as well as transportation. A little bit of background in

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August 2025. The school board acquired the Skyview High School building and property. We haven't quite owned it for an entire year yet. That'll be next month in a certainly want

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to pause and thank staff for hope that work in less than a year to open a school have programs ready. I work with our community to set

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boundaries. The team has been extraordinary. So I just again want to thank them and thank our board for the leadership in actually realizing the need

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for building. So in November of 2025, the board voted to open the new school for the 26 27 years. A comprehensive high school with traditional boundaries that included a

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special programming pathway. So it was in November that the decision was made to have traditional boundaries. In March, the we awarded a

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contract to WX. Why Architecture and urban design to complete the SkyView high school in Western pyramid Boundary study. And we had hoped at that time to conclude

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by the end of June 2026, as you know, I ask for a 3rd round of public review because I felt we were close but not quite there. So we did a 3rd round, which is why we're

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doing the final vote in July rather than June. Next slide. The community engagement at a glance. This is a high-level view. We did hold 6 community

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meetings. We had 15,000 comments on our map tool and 49,000 address searches as part of the process we had 25,000 unique visitors to the

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interactive boundary Explorer tool. So I feel like the community engagement was significant and timely next slide. Please the Boundary

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Advisory Committee which is continued a smaller version. We've kind of calling ourselves a skeleton version. I have continue to meet. In fact, as recently as this past

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Tuesday, even because we wanted to review the Monday night public hearing comments. So this group has continued to provide ongoing community

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input between boundary review cycles. It includes parents, caregivers and community members and currently supports a boundary work related to the Sky View High School in Western Pyramid Boundary study

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as well as for ongoing boundary studies of areas identified for extended review. We have shared the draft scenarios as part of the

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Skyview and Western pyramid boundary study and the Boundary Advisory Committee has provided their feedback. These committees, we've had 6 of them between April and

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July. Next slide. Please the meeting dates for all of our community meetings are on this line. As you can see, the 6 community meetings are on the left and the 6 Foundry

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advisory committee meetings are on the right. the community meetings began before the advisory meetings because the advisory meetings were reviewing the data from

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the community meetings and there wasn't data until it was a community meeting. Next slide. The school board engagement during this process. The board has

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provided updates at 2 different work. Sessions both in October of 2025. Where we discussed what type of school perhaps this would be and what type of programming. And also

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in May 2026 as well as through regular written updates. This slide shows that preliminary has been crossed out because this is no longer a

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preliminary recommendation. But the recommendation is the same as it was last week. And so in this case and both paragraphs again, preliminary

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has been struck. The word has been stricken, I guess maybe since it's more than one word. So it would indicate that the recommendation we're making this evening was been informed

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by feedback received throughout the process from the community. The consultant staff and the Boundary Advisory Committee. The

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preliminary, let's no longer preliminary. The recommendation balances utilization community priorities and was developed through a detailed review of community feedback on the revised scenarios presented in

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both the May June and actually there were 2 June meeting. So next slide, please. The again,

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the word preliminary has been taken out of the slide because this is now final, although unchanged. So these are high school boundaries and the

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Skyview high school attendance area draws students from Westfield Chantilly in South Lakes. The boundary adjustments helped balance enrollment across the 6 high

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schools over the course of the next decade. No high school is projected to be over utilized.

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Again. The term preliminary has been taken out of this slide because this is the scenario recommendation for middle school boundaries. So in this case, the Carson

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middle school boundary is adjusted to create a clean feeder pattern to Skyview high school and improve feeder alignment across the study area. Franklin Middle School remains the only split feeder

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at the middle to high school level currently in the Western region. And the term preliminary has taken out, but

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the scenario of impacted students remains the same as last week. The proposed boundary would impact approximately 2,544 students

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of which 420 or middle school and 2120 for our high school. Next slide. This is a slide 13 and it shows the one to 3, the

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5 high schools. >> And I 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 4, >> Well, that's 6 now because Skyview's included in the 5 permits that were originally impacted. We now have 6

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pyramids. And this as I explained in my mark remarks prior to the presentation now includes a really clearer example of year over year

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changes rather than trying to summarize a point in time. It also includes the projected additional enrollment based

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new housing starts construction development. As we know it today. And again, these are projections with our best guesses and we're using.

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We took out the word preliminary clarified that this is our forecasted high school capacity. Next slide. Please. Same thing here. We

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took out the root word preliminary and because frankly ran out of time with all of the data. We didn't have an opportunity to go through the step down, but we're going to continue that and provide that to the board

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and post that as soon as it's available, it's a rather detailed process. But again, these are the forecasted middle school capacities. Next

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slide. >> So Skyview High school. Re assigns 333 high school students from Chantilly High School to Skyview reassigned

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384 high school students from South Lakes. Andria, Signs 1062 high school students from Westfield increasing the SkyView High school capacity

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utilization percentage from 0 to eventually 90% projected. Next slide. Centerville High School Centerville, High School reassigned, 77 high school students from

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Centerville to Westfield and decreases Centerville High school capacity utilization from 104 to 92% projected. And you can see the existing boundaries on the left and the

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proposed boundaries on the right. Chantilly. High School reassigned 333 high school students from Chantilly to

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Skyview resigns. 268 from Chantilly. The Westfield decreases Chantilly. The capacity utilization from 110

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eventually to the 87% in the out years with the growth projections, the existing boundaries are on the left and the proposed boundaries are on the right. And again, this is

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an area that does not have as much growth projected, for example, are Westfield or South Lakes areas in terms of building permits. Next slide. Please Oakton High School.

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There were no changes proposed to impact Oakton High School. So the existing and proposed boundaries are similar. Next slide. Please South Lakes,

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High School reassigned 346, a 384 high school students from South Lakes to Skyview which decreases South Lakes from capacity utilization from 99%

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to 88%. And eventually I think it's higher than that. Anyhow, we've got that slide. So you can see the existing boundaries on the left and the

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proposed boundaries on the right. And Westfield High School reassigned 77 high school students from Centerville to Westfield

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resigns. 268 from Chantilly to Westfield. Andria. Signs 1062 from Westfield to Skyview. So decreases Westfield capacity utilization from 98 to

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eventually 81, which is projected again with growth in and students out the existing boundaries are on the left and the proposed boundaries are on

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the right. Carson Middle School. signs 91 middle school students from Franklin Middle School to Carson, Middle School and reassigned 177

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middle school students from Carson to Franklin decreasing Carson, Middle school capacity utilization from 97 to 91% with the existing boundaries

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on the left and the proposed boundaries on the right. Franklin Middle School reassigned 177 middle school students from Carson to

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Franklin reassigning 91 middle school students from Franklin to Carson reassigned 111 from Franklin to Stone resigns. Fewer than 10 from Franklin to

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Rocky run and decreases Franklin capacity utilization from 94 to 89 percent with the proposed boundaries on the right and the existing

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boundaries on the left. Hughes Middle School. There are no changes proposed. Therefore, the existing and proposed boundary look similar. Next

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slide, please. Liberty Middle School. Relive or 35 middle school students from liberty are reassigned to stone decreasing liberty middle

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school capacity utilization from 81 to 78 percent with the existing boundaries on the left and the proposed on the right. Rocky run. Middle

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schoesigns. Fewer than 10 middle school students from Franklin Middle School to Rocky run, which increases rocky run. Middle school capacity utilization one

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percent from 83 to 84% with the existing boundaries on the left and proposed on the right. And Stone middle school reassigned to 111 middle

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school students from Franklin to Stone reassigned. 35 middle schools from liberty to stone and increases the Stone middle school capacity utilization

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percentage from 80 2.97% with existing boundaries on the left and proposed boundaries on the right. And so the

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school board decision timeline. Last week I presented this presentation. On July 13th, which was on Monday. We had a public

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hearing on the Skyview High school Western pyramid boundary. And then on the 16th, which is this evening, we had a public hearing prior to this board meeting that

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began at 6.30. And at this point on a regular board meeting this evening and presenting the final recommendation for consideration and action. So

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Mr. Chair, that is the presentation. >> Thank I have first Mr. Dunne. I to question Dr it

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because I'm looking at the presentation that was on the 4 docks yesterday. And the numbers are the same in terms of number of students who are being moved from each high school. But the percentages

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have changed significantly yesterday for a for Centerville. It said that Centerville is going from 104%

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to 101% capacity utilization. And today, just 24 hours later, same number of students. But it's going from 104 to 92. So yesterday it was

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101 in the future state. And today it's 92. And then if you look at Westfield, the projected future percentage

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capacity utilization yesterday was 72%. But today it's 81%. Again, the numbers haven't changed in terms of how many students are being reassigned. It's still 1062 students from

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Westfield going to Skyview. But I don't understand how capacity utilization calculations could change so significantly. If you're not changing underlines math.

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>> So thank you, Mr. Down and actually we didn't post anything yesterday. We posted this was from last July or excuse me, July night. Last week, what we didn't include last week and what we probably

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could put on a separate line is our estimate based on the growth and development, demographics of the new housing that's in those areas. So that's in addition to the

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transfer in and transfer out, which was included in the previous chart. So what we did was look at, I believe there are multiple. >> Thousands of homes that.

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>> Under construction or I think we've talked about that either in approval under construction or in the permitting phase. So what we realize is we need to also

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look at the fact that the boundaries are stepping down each year. There's not like a sudden year where the transfer is all occur. And at the same time that students are being

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moved between schools. We have the new housing impact of new students as these houses sell and families move because each how do we say each

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neighborhood reach development? That's both being built permitted. Has a certain expectation. prediction of student generation based on those homes. And that's probably a number we can add

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to the presentation. But that's what accounts for the different number of students between just the transfers.

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Sorry. >> Most of that housing has yet to be built. So I I I'm not following something. Cause we I understand from the slides that you're showing relations this year and then

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once the boundaries are fully implemented so you think all of that housing will be built and that's what your projections are. Not all of the housing, but over the next

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4 years where the distinction between that 70 in the 81%. >> That's 4 years out. And we believe that some of Some of the housing actually is in the middle of being built right now. It's not going to take 4

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years to finish. And so we understand it's an inexact science, but there are a number of homes right now that are being constructed in a number of developments that

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are not just permitted, but under construction right now that are going generate a certain number of students. And we want to make sure we account for those.

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>> I looked at the residential applications dashboard and when I look at the current founders of Westfield, I see 160 high school students that

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would be expected to come out of the approved and under construction category. But of those only one, 4th, about 40 of those 150 would still be in

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the Westfield boundary after the boundary changes. So so 3 fourths of those would actually end up in the new SkyView boundary. So maybe if you could just provide the

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board with some calculations to get yes half. As I know you're. Fashion about math as so I. Can you explain a little

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bit more why the utilization at Centreville and Chantilly is without my dealers because it seems like you would want to show my dealers and without popular.

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>> With and without, we were trying to keep it apples to apples for example. Westfield doesn't have much They only have trailers for the of 13 of

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them. And frankly, I honestly think sometimes it's hard if you have. For my jewelers. Excuse me. jewelers we count

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differently than trailers here for cip purposes because of the funding source, which ones are bonded with cip funds and which are not is my understanding. But it will be

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tried to do is keep it apples to apples. And again, note that Centerville in the out years, theoretically, we're going to be beginning this renovation and again, we have

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yet to determine how much larger it's a much more room we're going to include in the renovation. But that's going to have an out your impact on their capacity for sure.

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>> I'm sorry. Could you could that point you just mentioned? Could you just confirm that with Mr? Ford and that which that's the first time I've ever heard that dealers are paid for with school bonds, but trailers parked.

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>> Yes, that's what this is. We had a big modular conversation today. Mr. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. That's

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correct. Which honestly, I think is an interesting waited, determine capacity based on source of funding. So light. I just think there's some conversation to be had with that. But when we're

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actually trying to look at where do we put students? Because when was talking about the 13 trailers and think Mr. Garnham, Mr. Smith going to

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test this morning. We had a pretty spirited conversation this morning about this because when you look Mr, Gordon gave me a map of Westfield. What's in the trailers? There's music. Their

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math classes. They're all their key program classes. And I said, well, if we're not accounting for those right, then if they disappeared, there's certainly going to have an impact on what's

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happening in the school in terms of the capacity is so anyhow, I happy to provide a more detailed report about what? >> Well, I'll just mention, I have an elementary school school where the trailers

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regularly get up to 84 degrees. it may be great for programs, but it's not great for I think students or for staff to be answered condition.

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>> And I apologize. I supposed to call him a stick, suffer emotional, continue conversations, Dixon. >> I move that the school board approves. Bondi just meant as described in the superintendent's

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recommendation attached. Mystics and speak your motion. Out to speak briefly and a common common sunny during my time. This is a once in a

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lifetime opportunity had in in our school system school board, what collectively? And in the purchase of this new school. And I I said that before. really appreciate it

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on my forward in that now we are. It's almost one year and the voting on the boundary. I really appreciate the work done by the Dr Reid's Smarty

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Smith, the State Board an and every member of the boundary Committee BRAC for countless hours. They did to get it for this work. It's not easy to do

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do something like this and that to open up a school in a year and go to the whole boundary process. But the school was much needed. And this significant residential development had happening in

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the best insight of the county and very side not lot of my constituents are we on the result. We're counting process situation. Many school. Take

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more time later. But I wanted to just can't. And, you know, to quest support of my colleagues for boundary, things. Thank you. Miss Anderson speech or second.

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>> Ms. Anderson: When I came out of the board in January of 2024, I was told that I wouldn't we wouldn't see a Western high school location for at least 30 years. We knew roughly where we needed the school, but we had not been successful in locating a

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viable plot of land for a high school and watching what happened at Chantilly. High School in terms of how it's landlocked. I knew that having the appropriate amount of land was going to be an important

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part of that. 2 and a half years later, we purchase a beautiful building saved hundreds of millions of dollars for taxpayers. And we're just weeks away from welcoming students to our new school. Obviously, we've had

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some challenges. We're in the middle of the boundary. Why? A county wide boundary work and we in which at its own complication and buying a construct in school was not on the boards radar either. I

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don't believe that we had ever done that fully before. And as with all of our boundary work, this wasn't a simple decision. I recognize or decision here impacts real families and school communities. But I've

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also reviewed the data behind this recommendation. Enrollment projections capacity utilization and the community input gathered through boundary, the boundary study process. And I believe it reflects a sound

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well-reasoned approach to address overcrowding, balancing capacity and preparing for new school and preparing for the new school opening. So I want to acknowledge the families who've engaged in this

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process, particularly those raising concerns about travel distances, school, specific programs and sibling placement boundary changes are never easy and no plan meets everyone. Every family's preference. So I would like to

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thank my colleagues. The superintendent and staff are conducting a fair process. Incorporating community feedback wherever possible. >> Thank you and Mr. Men.

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Thank you as my shirt. And then I have a couple questions to ask to start with. with that, should go to a the door. Gordon. you know, evening, we

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had a number of speakers, the who raised concerns regarding community. No Stone Wes Peery.

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Mr. Gordon happened. April. concerns prior to evening. >> Yes, sir. They have.

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>> And and and would you would you be able to us with size, the mode of a street stabbed being affected. Or living in that community that's going to

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be affected by boundary change. So, yes, there. >> So roughly for we look at

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both communities, total students. We conclude elementary middle school and high schools about 100 students. For both those communities.

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>> Mr. Moon: When you those 2 committees, which communities I'm it, it's bulk. And Wes

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not. We're court. >> It's heard you correctly. I believe you said Stone, Brooke and Boulevard those the 2 communities you asked about just specifically stone, Brooke. I believe it's roughly

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46. >> You believe 46 when you know to 40's. I know it's 46 students. to think that's a relatively small number, correct? That's for both. The

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didn't high put together. 46 with just a high school. all 3 middle school elementary school and high school so close 11 to 2.46, only small number and you want what they

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are saying. Ease if being treated differently. The community, my next to them. And reason the TCU safety

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concerns. And if read these concerns prior to tonight with EU. sat down with them and addressed, you know, can sons

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for. I just trying know, you know, if it's just such a small number and the you heard concerns before. If seeing is

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in fact true, got being traded from wide use have not been addressed. Also share that Mr. Gordon and I last Friday morning drove both the the

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Stone Bridge community and the boulevards of Westfield Community because I believe the team has met with both communities and we took

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different paths. >> Because there are different paths from both communities. And we drove both de Chantilly and to Westfield. I think the team Mr. Smith drove it

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several weeks prior and they didn't know the safety concerns because there's also transportation provided from both those communities to either high school. So the

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buses provide transportation. It's not a walking community. 2, the schools. In other words, transportation is being

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provided to Westfield. >> It currently going recipe. And I think you are country really going to shun Tilly and I'm going get a number problem keeping those 46, that's can

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you leverage and imaging be done. High and whether staff has problem keeping Carlos

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With you are devised percent of you do to a nation truly only shown lead how dealers 29

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Tony Chantilly shows 87%. And 46 Street owns high school be one 3rd that could be 15.

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>> I think that challenge for the boundary team was it's hard to look at a neighborhood and not look at the other neighborhoods near it. And pretty soon. I think that the

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concern being raised was we had to draw a line at some point. I think we picked as I mentioned last week, there's a ravine that cuts through some of these neighborhoods and I

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can't drive for you exactly. Tonight. I know that Mr. Gordon, Mr. Smith and the team have met with both of the neighborhoods we heard from

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Monday night. But again, that's Mr. Smith of you have anything to add on. >> stone for good evening, everyone. And you're exactly

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right. We had extensive community engagement. I see some of the faces here this evening, who we engage with at our meetings at Skyview heard

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very clearly from families and also explaining the families and also working with the Review Advisory Committee. Understanding that when you have communities that are in

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the shoulder areas in between a founder areas that it's, of course, those are the areas that you look at first when you're thinking about moving

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students, this was also the information that WX why shared with the community as well during their presentations. >> Mr. Moon: You know, from my perspective is a board member,

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stat, these community members of community. We're here this evening. Region can concerns that he was now. Michael, the

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communities. Well, but what he did NPR concerns have on addressed to my superintendent recommendations and cannot tonight because year concerns addressed while particular

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community with such small number. We have not the no touch trash. And I find that to be troubling. buddies. So

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more if you these 100 that may be a different story. talking about perhaps again, BB, 15 high school kids. Yeah. I

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mean, if >> the board wants to add that community, we certainly will find room for the students. I I with a fever keeping that

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the And just treat the same way and keep them in addition to especially knowing the percentage, Levi's, the percentage, east, system. And that was your time. I can put

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you go back. If you'd like. Dr. Anderson. Thank you. Just a few questions. First of I do appreciate the presentation. It's an ice cap.

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>> Particularly since this is the voting day and it's yet another opportunity to further educate the community, even though just last week. >> Dr. Anderson: You talked a

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little bit in terms of reducing the trailers that are in various sites because there will be some adjustments made there. >> Dr. Anderson: What's the anticipated timeline for that?

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Would it be? At the end of the phase period, which would be 2030. What do you think? I think they did a lot of. A lot

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of this boundary work is our best guess, right? There's it's not a a pure science and it's not going to be. Perfect in our recommendations. So I

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think what we we don't want to be hasty, right? We don't want to move and trailers out and then find that suddenly a particular multi-family housing unit, for example,

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maybe suddenly has many more families are particular neighborhood. Turns over more quickly than we thought. And now we need to move the trailers back because that's operational budget expense to

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be moving trailers. So I think that we want to move them out as soon as we feel like we responsibly can that we really won't need them in the near future because we don't want

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to get in business of moving them and having to move them back because that draws down, you know, our operating fund that I I would absolutely commit that. I don't think there's anyone that wants to

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delay the removal of those any longer than we need to. >> Sure. I know sometimes we can get addicted to the extra space. I worked at a school. I know what it's like. Even if it's not a student. You right.

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But the whole idea of we just we being able to remove it. It's a nice little Cigna and message want in particular Chan to leave because we have such limited parking many of those trailers are in areas

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where we can actually have more parking and that particular campus. I think he's really parking challenged. Or in some of our elementary schools. It's the playground. it's a field

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space. Can we put up a slide 13, please. >> I really want to make sure I build understanding around that. And I don't think I'm there yet. Can we just pause

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my time while we for that to come up? While that's happening, you know, I can jump to another question. >> Dr. Anderson: You talked about how the capacities

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calculated and it's seems to be connected to the funding source rather than to something else for the cip regarding jewelers in temporary classrooms. We've

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given the formula and criteria to use for the cip or is this a NFC PS in position and regulation because if it is, we should be able to make some changes that make little bit more sense. That's a good

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question. anyone want to tackle Eric? >> a man, thanks for the question. So. The concept of jurors being funded by Bonds

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is because there's capital assets. The modular semi permanent facilities there on off concrete slab has fix plumbing, electrical. So there's capital services that

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are being brought to those. They just can't take away and an easy matter temperature facilities like the trailers. You know, if bring electricity to that, but you very can

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bring them in and move them out well. >> Dr. Anderson: So it's less the funding source, but rather the fact that it's a more permanent structure. Yes, and

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the funding source for these capital more capital like assets, the modular is the capital funding where as the trailers because they don't have these capital

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characteristics are funded from the operating fund. Obviously, that they're especially since the slide is up, just kind of wanting to walk through this a little I know last time I raise that

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the. >> The >> Dr. Anderson: capacity utilization that I was looking at were based on what was in the current cip. And I think that adjustment has been made. So appreciate that. So the

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first set, you know, the first set of columns, you know, facility, that's fine seconds. That speaks to what's happening in the 25 26 school year. That's also fine. Now we get into the 3rd grouping,

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which is the adjusted projected memberships that in the 4th looping for me go hand in hand in terms of these are the number of kids. But each of these years and these are the capacity and it seems too

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seems to make sense. I don't know how to treat that final column of projected program capacity. Where is that 101% all the way down to 86%. Is

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that happening at the end of the school year? 29 30. How do I treat this? >> I we were looking at that when I asked the team to do is because we've got boundary

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reviews and these 5 year increments, the division-wide boundary that we need to look out maybe over the next decade, right? That's why we didn't put a year on that. So

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we're looking at trying to look at all the different housing starts and permits and develop hands and where are we likely to be after the 29, 30

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school year. And again, the further out we get the less accurate. We're just trying to do be as predictive as we can based on looking at the county development because we know

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that development will happen at the same time. And that's where I said Mr. Dunne, it's very likely that I'm gonna need to provide you guys more of the background kind of how we were thinking about calculating that. But again,

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just trying to look at. The housing. Permits, all came to be in the way we think within the next decade. This is what it would look like now. I

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don't know that they're all going to, but we don't know that more won't write like so it's we're just in this place that we wanted to make sure we just gave a stab at that. So that's probably the least

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probable. But it is a forecast that we're looking at. I think you're 29 30 is certainly. You know, that's based on where we're headed. But the outside

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column is likely over the not further than a decade outfit within the next decade. Sure. And >> I appreciate that clarification. But I think I

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find it to be less helpful. Because it's so far out. It's really hard, as you said, to really hone in. So for me, the most. Important data set is what's going to be happening

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at the end of the 29 30 because that's also inclusive of Of the construction today. Yes.

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>> We did add the construction to date within those numbers. I yes, we Yes, ma'am. >> Dr. Anderson: So in 29, 30 West Fields will be at. And and I point out to Westfield example, that's been the

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conversation. Yes, Westfield will be at 81%. I find that it's hard for me to put any confidence on that last column only because it's not dated and it's just it's a little

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bit beyond. I think that the typical scope. I'm going to treat the 29 data as the data that we really have a greater

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level of confidence is that fair? >> Okay. I think I heard my time, but I'd like to go back. I have one more Excuse me spit

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it out, pushing to go back. takes it in a smear. >> I have one concern in this

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whole Presentation is about more than one. But for us go to the one I had is for. Stoneman to school storm in a

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school is the only feeder far Mr. High School right now and it's showing of 97% capacity. And we have more construction coming up in the neighborhood.

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And be programs that also puts students back in Stone. And it's going to be go over 100% capacity very soon. It is also a smaller school. So I wanted

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to asked that what what can we do is to keep that keep an eye on that because every before dark, it's them. >> Yes, ma'am. I think that's a really important question.

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Mistakes it because I think. What you're pointing out is that the growth really around Westfield High School is going is one of the most significant areas in this part, whis. Something we want to watch

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closely. And we I appreciate that comment. I think that we're going to have to look all of the middle schools in this Western region area. And

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I mean, the good news is we also we haven't done a lot of moving for the middle school at this point. And we do have our next five-year division review coming up now in 4 years. So I think that may be

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an area we're going to want to look at sooner than later. And I know there's also a conversation about AP centers. In the Western boundary area. So it and it's something we're

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going to take a and keep a very close eye on. >> I think possibly have to look and expansion as well. The capacity expansion because that if men, he stays as the

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only feature, it's going to go up over 100% very soon. So and the other thing I want to do mention is about investing

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high school is that I have talk to Mr. Smad the principal and other parents and I would like know your opinion about

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some like specialized programming so we can. Yeah, Ed, some enrollment in that school. >> So I appreciate the question is sticks. It nigh

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have also met with the principal Morrison. I know I was just at Westfield High School Friday night for an amazing musical. So I think that we want to make sure that

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all our high schools have access to programming and I think as Westfield has a bit more room, a bit more classroom space, we certainly would intend to look at

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bringing programs, rather they be perhaps Academy programs or maintenance of programs because as you see Westfield

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High School actually stays above 2000 students, which should enable a catalog of our standard courses as well as you know, courses, elective

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courses that students want and particularly. at was interested in the parents comment this evening around the math options even before

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we've had boundary conversations. So definitely it's something I've asked staff that we're going to take a close look at and want to make sure that we know the Westfield Communities, a proud

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community and is a you know, committed to excellence for. All of our Bulldogs. So I want to make sure that we maintain programs so we will be staying very closely engaged with

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them. >> Thank you, Doctor. I don't know if I'm out of my time. I have some seconds. The

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question for Clark can I bring a follow-on motion? >> At this point because this is considered agenda AISD motion and order for you to bring a follow-on. You would

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have to suspend the rules in order to bring a follow on or you can amend we do fallen already on the agenda or you

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could amend that. Please be aware that we potentially already have an amendment to that fall on and there can only be one second degree an

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amendment at a time. I like to suspend the rules. So are we suspending the rules for follow-on are for an amendment. We haven't gotten

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to a fault. The follow-on jet. If you want to suspend the rules to move an amendment to the main motion. that's what where this would occur. If you're trying to do a suspension of the rules for a follow on that would occur

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after we voted on the main motion. >> So will wait. Passes. If you want to bring the following, you can suspend at

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that point. >> Okay. things. >> Is okay? I have Erin and then go to covax.

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>> Ms. Meren: Okay. All the conversation that was standing. I'm gonna go ahead and read my prepared remarks because I've really labored over them over the last few days and want to share what I'm thinking, even though it continues to feel like things keep changing. So after much

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analysis and consideration, I will vote to approve this foundry proposal to me having a new public school should be a time of excitement because students and the public are receiving a modern, safe and

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accessible asset. And this facility is certainly top of the line features what an amazing place to work and learn. The purchase of this public school facility as it remains a financially wise decision that will save fcps

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and the county government and taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars for years to come yet during this year-long process up until this very moment, excitement has been

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elusive for me because reasonable and really critical information has too often been incomplete or shared untimely manner to the board in the public. I spoke to this last week on July 9th. The process

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run by the superintendent could have been better. This is why I'll be proposing follow on action seeking for the superintendent to present a scheduled public meeting at a scheduled public meeting this fall and after action

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report with ideas for future improvements in down work as well as about instructional programming sat schools impacted by the boundary change further, I'm seeking follow on action to provide

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more precise information about housing projections for our future boundary work. The bottom line for me is this the overwhelming majority of residents I've heard from support the proposal to move

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students in 100 now into Skyview High school. Specifically for the FOX Mill and Floors. Elementary school attendance areas and parts of the cross field elementary school attendance area and

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also the split feeder Carson Middle School will be reduced and this is an overdue adjustment that benefits children. I've heard from Florence residents from nearly after announced the purchase

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of the school that they are excited. It's closer to them than any other high school live and the FOX no community is excited to not have a split feeder anymore from Carson going to South Lakes. Rather

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Carson going to Skyview. We purchased a school and the students have to come from somewhere. These are the places that for a number of reasons make the most sense. I want to share that the changes

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in school membership are Self Lakes and Westfield look alarming, but they may not be as dire as they seem. Certainly the numbers alarmed me. And for weeks I've been trying to understand the genesis of the data and the potential impacts of our

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people. So here's what I've learned. Even since last week, even with the reduced memberships to 2000 students, that is still a very large high school population that can sustain robust programming. Housing will be

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coming onto the market, bringing students into school for SAS trick. That for my follow-on comments, though, these changes will be phase over time allowing for concerns to be addressed before larger problems

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develop. Finally, I remain committed to ensuring that the schools, particularly South Lakes and Westfield, remain robust so that students have access to the opportunities we have come to expect CPS and

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even more again, the following action offering soon seeks to get ahead of any potential negative impact on instruction at these high schools as a result of this boundary change. Both South Lakes and

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Westfield High Schools are exemplary fcps public schools that must be well resourced. And go back for Dr. Anderson.

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Thank you. I think. >> The question that I have Dixit will address one of the things that I want to that I want to ensure that were being

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responsive to is the number of westville parents who have come in being very concerned about enrollment being decreased in a matter. That is going to negatively impact opportunities for their

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students. I you know, to put it shortly, trying to avoid another Lewis situation. And so that is my level of interest and ensuring that something is done. So I'm glad

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that Dixon is going to have the opportunity to bring in a follow-on for the exploration of programming and looking at the the list of academy

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programs. I had the chance to do that on Monday after lot during actually the public hearing. And there are so many programs that are offered and some of our chilly high school

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has so many programs. And I know I've heard some concerns about the overcrowding there. And it just makes me wonder and I'm not predicting any at

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all. But it just makes me wonder what could potentially look like for both Chantilly and West feels if one of these programs obviously not the ones who are going to require significant infrastructure

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were to be moved. It would increase capacity at one school and decrease capacity at another. And I think both will be needed. So so those are some of the ideas that I'm hoping will be coming out of

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this follow-on motion that Dixon is going to bring. And it's really going to show the responsiveness to the community because at the end of the day, we are here represent them. And they said over and over and over again

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that this is a concern and addressing that is key. Although I have 0 dog in that fight. I live in the Mason District, but I do vote on this and I want to make make

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sure that I can explain my positions and the votes that I bring forward. So I'm really looking forward to that part of the conversation and want to echo some of the things that this man has said. This

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is exciting. This is still a very exciting opportunity. And so I want to be able to celebrated while still addressing you know, little things that need to addressed.

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Thank you, Mr. Fresh for your first. >> appreciate all the work colleagues have put into this. In addition to the thoughtful

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follow on that are coming. 2 comments. Number one. Tonight, we're going to ask for a ton of things to be done in September and October by the

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exact same staff. I hope we can all provide a little grace to the superintendent and her team in asking for all of this additional work. That will

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help our work, the better but know that. We are asking for several things tonight. If they all pass to be done. Very

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similar timeline basically the same people. So I would just put that out there. Secondly. I'd hope to see a capacity

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really for Oakton High school this boundary Con in this iteration of the boundary discussion. You know, I'm

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hopeful the cip is projections of I think roughly 98% capacity use R true. You know, many years ago, one of the cip

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is listed in the back and analysis showing the accuracy of projections over time and they were largely accurate. mean, there were some discrepancies here and they're either lower or higher than

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what had been projected. Some hopeful that the 98% number is accurate because there are students who live closer to Oakton High School than many of the students that come from. Much further away. And I

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think that they would like to attend a school closer to home as well. So look for those further conversations and appreciate the work that's been done by colleagues. Thank

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you. And I'll take a turn this has been a very long. Process. I remember we first had the conversations about purchasing this building and the opportunities that it posed.

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>> And here we are tonight and I think the slide that really highlights. What I want to emphasize is the side that says 6 community meetings, 15,000 comments and 25,000

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unique visitors, the public input process was done it with a painstaking level of effort. And that's the expectation that our communities have. And that's the expectation that the superintendent, her team

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in the 4th, Matt. So I'm looking forward having a decision made so western Fairfax County gets the high school they've been waiting for for decades, delivered to

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them about a 67% discount on the going rate to buy land and build a building and immediate delivery of 2000 seats of

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capacity and western Fairfax to provide decades relief for overcrowding in our high schools. So with that, I would call Mr. Moon. The commission,

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I Schumann. >> Mr. Moon: I move to suspend lose and to move onto amendment to the superintendents pound, you recommendations to keep the community of a storm brewing this And schoolers of

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Chantilly. High School and Rocky Run. Middle School. I second. >> Get the most to suspend the rules to bring an amendment to this agenda. Item has been made. The motion suspend is

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not debatable. That requires a two-thirds call for the vote. All those in favor. Mr. Frisch Erin, Mr. Moon Mistick said

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Mr. Don, St. John-Cunning, Mister Dan and myself. Dr.

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Anderson. And mislead the have you vote? and OK? So those are

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the affirmative, any opposed. That's right. It's not. So the motion is carried. The motion carries rules have been suspended. I know you can now

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make the motion. Yes, sir. >> Thank you, Mister. My show. And then I moved to I move. 2

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men. The superintendent's ponder. just know my commendations to keep the community of stone route this period. And he's Carnes Krewe solution to high school Rocky their script. Is there a

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second? I second to Mr. Members, I speak your motion. I think I've spoken enough and Thank you, Mystics and expect your second.

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>> I just want to we heard the community you know, it was late late of but thanks to One for bringing this motion. Mr.

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Muir like still on. >> Dr. Anderson, I'm so sorry. Can I motion? Please be posted. I'm not sure which motion. We also there is a motion to suspend the rules. The rules are suspended, Mr. Moon brought a motion to add

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Stony Brook. >> Mr. Moon: Just keep the stone and should to the high school and rock in the middle school. >> So if the clerks have to the coffee, they can put it up there.

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>> And just also just a point of clarification, if I could ask is not a point of order. It's a question were suspending the rules for this follow a follow-on motion to find amendment. It's an

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amendment. Thank s. appreciate Powell better understand.

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So there's the amendment.

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I have no lights. So I'm gonna call for a vote on the amendment. >> Mr. Macean. Is that that

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the language could I could I return I think that's I just want to clarify that Stone

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Burke is currently at Franklin Middle School in Chantilly. Okay. So let me let me phrase.

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Okay. So welcome back. >> To recap, the rules were suspended. We have are considering an amendment to the main motion and the language now is up on the screen. Mr. Move. Can you

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please read the motion? >> Mr. Moon: Thank you so And then I move onto superintendent spawned a just recommendations to keep the community calm storm. We're getting this feeling at its

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core and screws of Chantilly. High School in Franklin Middle School. There's a motion. Is there a second? I second. Okay. Mister Image like to speak. You know Reagan. Thank

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you. Mystics. It was like to speak at no. >> Okay. I have Dr. Anderson joins the diocese there. Any. I have no lights on. I have no

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lights on. So I'm gonna call for the vote on this

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amendment. Okay. The motions on the screen. There are no lights to speak. All those in favor of the amendment has

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posted. Mr. Ms. Dixit Mr. Dunne. Dr. Anderson, all those opposed. Miss Anderson, Mr.

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Frisch Erin, Mr. Dan and the St. John-Cunning myself and Ms. Lady, the clerk read the

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vote. >> All right. So we're just confirming that we have Mr. Moon is yes, Mystic's. It is.

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Yes, Mr. Dunne is yes, Dr. Anderson. is. Yes, correct? Correct. And then knows we have miss Anderson. Mister Fresh Miss Man, Mister

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McDaniel, Ms. Lady, Mr. Dan and missing John County. Correct? 4, 7, the motion the amendment fails. All right. >> So we're back to the Main Amendment. Are there any other

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discussions for the man? And I had Dr. Anderson, your light is on. Did you wish to A motion? OK? So we're back to the main motion. It's on the screen that the school board approved the boundary adjustments as described. The

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superintendent's recommended attached recommendation attached. Seeing no other is a call for the vote. All those in favor of the motion. Miss Anderson, Mr. Freshness, Mirren, Mister Moon, Miss D***

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Mr. Dunne, Mister Durand or Send the St. John-Cunning. Myself. And Ms. Lady, Ms.

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Lady, that unanimous. We have boundaries.

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OK? I call on Erin follow one motion. >> Ms. Meren: I move to direct the superintendent to work with Fairfax County staff to

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deliver publicly to the school board. Quarterly updates about housing projected to come to market in western Fairfax County for 5 years on a rolling basis. first report delivered as part of the Fcps

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Capital Improvement Program. Public presentation as scheduled in early 2027. Is there a second second very much like to speak. What I

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learned through out this process of the boundary setting for Sky View is that the housing projections are really important. And while we do have a dashboard that Fcps maintains and includes it

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includes our GIs information and the superintendent's talked about the different phases of housing planning. It's not precise enough. And in the western part of the county, there is a lot of development happening. That's

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happening other places. And I think that we really need to do better to understand the pace at which the housing is coming on. It's not just enough to say there's going to be 30,000 units. Are they happening in 5 years? 10 years? I know some of them our

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way out was Reston town center north. Those you projects decades out. So in order for us to match the membership that our staff use a formula

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for and the capacity of a building we need to know with the housing is truly is coming on. I was able to receive past what the averages per year and at 600 units. And that doesn't

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quite match up with the data that was used to make this decision. But that was the past. And I feel like whether it's a simple excel sheet were some I work the county and the schools can do better together

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to offer that information. I'm thinking this would be a brief update. Definitely part of the cip. You know, I've always hoped that we could have more regular work session time dedicated to facilities. So perhaps this is just part of

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that that we, you know, forces us to be more on top of some of our facility work. So I hope that colleagues can support it so that we can have better more precise information and get ahead of

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any potential issues that come up. If enrollment is dropping too quickly and the housing is not coming in to boost enrollment. Thank Thank you, Mr. Dunne. My colleague than

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excellent job. So. OK, Mr. Fresh a view. Thank you. So There are lots of places in

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Fairfax County that are experiencing growth. >> you know, I I think it is important that we get additional information like this, particularly in our hot spots. It's all support the

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motion because I think it's important 4 board members, particularly those of us who are impacted by Western growth and believe it or not, I may not be right in the midst of it, but open high school is

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significantly impacted. Additionally, I have the Tysons periphery that I'm always watching. That has significant growth as does Ms. Lady Erin and others. And so

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I'll be looking to the next cip for perhaps some additional work in this area. And we may find after a year that that we don't need quarterly updates that maybe we need it twice a year or

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just with the cip after a couple years we do receive emails with some level of analysis about development that's happening in our respective magisterial districts. But it's not in the context of the boundary work,

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right? It does tell us to some extent what growth could come out of a development specific schools. But it's not in the context of our decisions

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around cip renovation cycles or boundary work. So I look forward to finding a path where this all kind of just together at some point. Thank you, Dr. Anderson.

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>> Dr. Anderson: I do want to say thank you to Miss Mary for bringing this and just echo what miss just said, those emails that we receive regarding developments there. Nice in terms of understanding

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that it is happening, but it really misses the opportunity for discussion having a quarterly report also makes it public because the community very often is asking when they see activity. Well, where

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these he's gonna go to school. And so if we have the board, if the board is able to have a public discussion, then some of those questions can be responded to in a way. That's a little bit more

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comprehensive. So I would love to see this become a regular part of all of the activity that is constantly taking place in Fairfax County that is impacting many, many of our

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schools. Thank St. John-Cunning. So. >> I do agree. And I know that I have been asking questions along along these lines with

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one of our elected. During the discussion. What I understand and think this is important for us to look at as we looking at this is that. When the county puts up these? You

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know, tells about developments. They cut projected numbers of students and then we could projected numbers of students and they're never the same. And so I'd like to look at the history to see what the Delta is so that we can have a

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better understanding their count seems to always be under what our count is. And so I think if we start intentionally looking at this, we will get a clearer picture

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of what truly is happening so that we can make decisions that are best for the community. And overall, it serves all of our elected bodies to do this work with the ability and to try to

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come, you know, as close as possible to what true number is, realizing that we don't have a crystal ball that. Let's get a realistic. Thank

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you, Mr. So I support I only have one question Dre is is that there is possibility creating that good data dashboard. >> Is there to providing the

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report on a quarterly basis. So like witches, I believe county does it on their side. And I mentioned that before. Also that if you have more day of ash was more visual and its

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you can, you know, see it point of time. Yes, ma'am. I think we do have a dashboard on our website with that data that we do poll from the

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county. But I think we'll take a look at it and see if it's as helpful as it could be. And, you know, try to work to make sure it's clear and concise. On doctor is sitting

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is an addict can be get the e-mail or link to on the board members. Yeah, I'm happy to all include that in the Friday letter tomorrow make sure Mr.

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Gordon provides in a short note, but we'll get that out to the more of Thank you. Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you. Under the lights in quick enough for the clerk's 20 to call for the

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vote on this motion prior to moving into the suspension. going vote on this follow-on motion all in favor. Miss

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Anderson, Mr. Frisch Erin Mr. Moon Mistick said Mister Dunne, Mister Dan and Doctor Anderson, St. John-Cunning myself. Lady.

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>> Ms. Lady, yes. >> Lady is yes, that's unanimous. Calling the sticks up for a motion. I moved to suspend the rules to allow for

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2 additional funding on motions. there a seconds? Thank you. It is not debatable. We've been through all in favor. Yes, Anderson,

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unanimous. That motion passes. >> Okay. >> I call on this Marin for follow-on motion. Number 2, I

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direct the superintendent to deliver at a board work session no later than September 30 2026. An after action report about the boundary work that has occurred over the last 2 years with lessons learned and suggested future improvements

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and information about how to mitigate any possible negative changes to instructional programming to schools impacted by declines in student membership. That result from the establishment of the Skyview high school boundary.

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>> Second second, Miss merely let's speak your motion. I think this is self-explanatory. Mr. Dunne. I just want to say, I think this

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is a wonderful motion. I appreciate the mover for bringing it. And I think it's so important that we have a continuing look at the work that's been through the comprehensive and your view.

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The Skyview founders process and the boundary hot spots that are continuing. So we understand not just at the time changes are made, but subsequently potential impact

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positive, negative. And we continue to study those over series of years so that we can understand in the future how to do things better and make sure that we're trying to avoid any negative outcomes. 5 future boundary changes and

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asked what also say. Thank you to the staff Facilities, Division Council all the offices and fcps because it's been a tremendous amount of

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work to acquire from a camp felt like Adam E to transform to provide class sports facilities and and make it into a full high school instead of K through 12. And

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then all the work on the Skyview boundary, the number of community meetings that dedication shown by Fcps staff is just unbelievable. for the

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process hasn't been perfect. But that's part of the human endeavor. And the fact that we haven't been this and decades. So I think we have done a wonderful job. It's coming and

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and I appreciate of the work that went in to buy the governance committee, making sure the policy 81 30 really highlighted and emphasized and foot friend forward community

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engagement and that's been fulfilled. And that's been a wonderful thing to Thank you. Thank you. Miss Anderson. This is just a.

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>> know that we have a work session on October 6th that would make would lend itself very well to this. Otherwise, this is going to require that the superintendent have this done by September 8 in order to meet the work session in

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September. And so without objection, I was hoping that we could move to October 6th just mean that we could actually meet the requirement without moving the superintendent my entire

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month. Without objection, the date is amended. That was

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October 6th of course, would be great.

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Dr. Anderson. >> Thank you. Is one point of clarification. I know we've talked about this throughout the boundary process about an after action report. It is

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going to be inclusive of the entirety of the bounty Just specifically for the work related to Skyview. Is that a

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question for Whatever like, it will be a tiny nation. Would you your time to Erin dancer? Sure. Okay. Erin. So it is

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seeking language just went away. >> it is seeking. >> Ms. Meren: It's 2 things that after action on the boundary work that has occurred over the last 2 years with lessons learned that I

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believe the Super 10 times work already working on. I discussed this with her in advance this morning to see if this was an animal and she's got a report that some U.S. ready. >> And then the information about mitigating any negative

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changes to schools impacted by the SkyView in a moment, changes. Thank you. That's clear. Thank you. >> No others calling for the

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vote in favor. As Anderson Mr. Freshness, Mirren, Mr. Mystics, Mr. Dunne, mister Danon Dr. Anderson, the St. John-Cunning, Ms. Lady myself, that unanimous.

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>> call them stick suffer from motion. Number 3. >> I moved the Fairfax County school board to direct the superintendent double up and present to the school board by up to about 2026, a

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comprehensive plan for establishing. Specialized programming fat Fayetville Street high school in the areas of business information. Technology in skilled trades this. The plan should

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challenge glued recomended programs of study industry and higher education partnership, implementation timeline,

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staffing Clemens. Second Mystics and expect your motion. I believe this is

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something our community needs I. wanted to address this now, but haven't you doing the boundary the best for the community. Ask for of. More

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enrollment in their school and especially spot play just like we have for Skyview High school provide that the students would be full time coming in. So we're expecting

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more enrollment. These programs and I'm really excited to discuss this with the community also would be administration doctor each

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team and see what we can offer in this facility in the school. I would like to work with my fellow colleagues. Also and get this ideas of

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what what we can do to bring more students in. Thank you. Thank you. Erin. Oh, I'm sorry, Dr. Anderson, I speak

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your second. >> Dr. Anderson: Just very briefly. I said that earlier. The only thing I want to make sure that is clear, particularly with the last pieces, his skills, trade,

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skilled trades, that's pretty much wide open. And it's not just these 2, it's not just businesses, not just information, but there's opportunity for staff to look at a number of other things that could potentially draw

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some students. The Westfield, again, this is responsive to what we've been hearing here over the last number of days. So I'm happy to support. Okay. Now this Thank you. And if the

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motion language should be put back up be really helpful, please thank you to the representative for bringing this. We have heard a lot from Westfield families in the last few weeks and over the months.

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I do think that this is a little too soon because what does West feel like? I would like to know the county what Westfield already has. And by way of business, it skilled

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trees, maybe there. And I certainly would want to check with the principal first and just see, you know what's happening. I think what I put forward in the motion that just past was about having

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this kind of a discussion and talking about what might be get off kilter as a result of the enrollment change. That's that was really based on. I'm

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all for having discussions about Secretary course offerings that been talking for years. So that goes back to presentations that we've had. So I'd prefer to anchor

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it to the conversation that we just approved to have on October 6th. Plus, getting input from the school and looking at some data and even resources like what could Westfield actually host? You can't just, you know, drop

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like auto body shop in a school again, have certain requirements and such. So I'd like to wait on this one. Perhaps this could be a topic for discussion, but full own

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plan seems a little too much. Perhaps a severe really great topic for the work session to explore and ask for information to he presented. But a plan is is quite a lot

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at this time. Thank you. Thank you. Miss Dixon. This is in response to the community asking for how do we think it was? I this is tiny NES. I

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believe to show that our commitment to the community, both me and the second we talked about that doctor, Anderson, then we believe this is the right time to do it.

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We're only asking for a plan. We are of a CV little need full board support for this. And Dr would you like to speak to this? I think that maybe

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there's a way to thread what Aaron's concerns are in terms of a preemptive decision on topics. If we just included language about the specialized

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programming pathways, Westfield High School. To include but not be limited to the areas right, so that we would bring back a plan with

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those areas. But it wouldn't be limited to that. >> If an engagement with the community. Something else emerges that we may want to.

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Discover consider. So I think there could be a minor adjustment that could meet perhaps both needs. >> Yes, definitely. We can amend it. That in the and

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areas of business but not limited to I guess, added to the motion. In the areas of business information, technology and skin trade, but

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not limited to these area. Did. Did you did that with doctor us saying? I think

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you'd be, including but not limited to the areas of. the

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end. If that was made. And after. >> Including but not limited to should be insurgents

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somewhere after Westfield High School that before the list of business information, etc. In the areas right after areas,

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including but not limited to strike of. >> Mr. Megan, you we asking to do this without objection. not having as a separate

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amendment. Hold up. Remove the word of. The word of needs to

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be struck out. Thank you. Without objection. Mystic says

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That'll that's that's thank you, Mr. I also wonder I appreciate the recommendation from the superintendent. It perhaps a set of a comprehensive plan. It's an analysis of I know. I don't

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want to signal that something is lacking from Westfield. This is an approach because we're expecting to have lower enrollment and we're trying to infill for that. So I just

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want to give that impression. And so we're taking extra care to look at this school. I mean, for that matter remains Aladdin South Lakes because they're going experience the

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same thing. So, you know, for me, it's hard to do things on the fly like this. So I'd rather be as general as possible. So perhaps it's by

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20. Analysis of specialized programming pathways. You know, at Westfield. But again, South Lakes is going to be facing. The challenge is not as great but they're losing

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their projected to be down 17%. So I would suggest that instead of a comprehensive plan, it read an analysis of

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you know, possibilities. And I guess it's just too off the cuff for me to to say South Lakes to at this point. So I would just leave. It was

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killed. And now I mean, Mystics. Will give ordinances.

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Mr. man because I try landed from the word analysis. This would be the last it. A case that without objection.

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Hearing no objections. done. I have no lights all in favor. >> Miss Anderson, Mr. Freshness, Mirren, Mister Moon, Ms. Dixit. Mister Danon,

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Mr. Dunne, Mr. Dan and Dr. Anderson, a St. John-Cunning myself and Ms. Lady had you've of. >> Stay on this one.

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>> That is unanimous with Lady abstaining. So these are one. Excuse me, 10, 0, 1,

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>> Agenda item. Some 0, 0, 5 action item Skyview High school student phasing in transportation presentation conduct free for presentation. And note on this we do not need to rework forward. So can

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do the presentation and and then go from there. I know with the last one was a little some of the changes, but let's go and do the presentation and even president yet again from last week. Briefly briefly,

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okay. Do not need to reward for words. We can be brief and

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then go into the conversation. Kate, you bet.

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So thank you. >> Madam Clerk tonight, I'll be providing a summary of the phasing in transportation plan for Skyview. This is a con 2 new ation of the presentation

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from June. 25th. Which includes graphics to make the information is clear as possible to the community. I think we know to the next slide. In terms of facing the

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three-year has not changed since the June 25th presentation. To clarify in near one students may opt in

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to attend Skyview in grades 9 through 10. And in your 2 new grade class will be added and students may choose to opt out. To attend their base

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school if they so choose. And in year 3. >> Skyview would serve all for high school grade levels and opting out would no longer be an option.

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>> At SkyView students who opted to attend. We'll continue on as aviators is my understanding is the mascot.

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So next slide. Current that on the screen shows the phasing plan for Skyview High School and other schools impacted. The Orange cells show that the

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school boundary is not yet in effect. The green shows where the boundary is in effect, where students can opt out at center and the red shows when the boundary is complete and

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students are expected to attend their newly assigned school. However, of course, pursuant to our transfer. Policies, they can still apply for those transfers and be

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accepted on a transfer office approval. the 26 27 school year. No changes are going to be me the boundaries. Not yet

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in the fact. And all students who attend Skyview opt in. And the 27 28 school year. The boundary will be, in fact, in effect. And school boards facing policy will begin.

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Students assigned to Skyview in 9th grade in 27. 28 may opt out. If the school doesn't meet their educational needs 7th and 9th graders who are impacted and other schools

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must attend their new school. And the 28 29 school year skyview's boundaries will be complete. Meaning they have 9th through 12th graders and

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the 29 30 school year. All but rising 12th graders will attend school based on their newly assigned foundry. In the 2030 31 school year and beyond

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the boundaries, complete with all students attending assigned schools based on the new found Next slide. In boundary students will receive

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traditional neighborhood busing. This applies to all students who opt in and live within SKYVIEW'S approved boundary. Staff to recommend a depot style transportation

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model for out of boundary students who opt in to Skyview. This is recommended to control costs and alleviate strain on the ongoing fcps bus driver shortage, which isn't a

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short as it's been, but it's still You know, plentiful. So next slide, please. The estimated annual cost to implement the SkyView

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transportation plan is approximately 2.5 million. This includes 20 neighborhood bus routes for students living within the boundary because when you have a new school, you need new routes and 11

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people routes to serve students that voluntary volunteer Lee opt-in from outside the boundary during the transition period. The depot model is a deliberate strategy to reduce costs,

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limit the number of additional drivers and a dressy on one bus driver shortage while still providing transportation access for often students. It also allows us to provide

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choice during this transition while maintaining a fiscally responsible and operationally sustainable transportation system. The associated costs have been built in to be

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absorbed by the current Fy 27 budget. This infographic on the next page. The team worked really hard to try to find something that could be simple

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to explain the phasing for the 3 school years. I hope that it is more simple than what we previously had in terms of Vhsl in 8. Appreciate Mr.

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still being here tonight. In school years. 26 27 students will play at their base school an afternoon. Transportation will be provided in 27. 28

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students will transition to SkyView teams on the bottom right of the graphic. You can see that the transportation model would be traditional neighborhood bus stops for students living within the

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boundary and depot stops for students outside. In terms of Vhsl eligibility. This is the three-year plan on the slide

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in front of you. In your ones. Skyview high school not the vhsl member. However, students will be able to participate and vhsl athletics and activities of their base

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school in year 2 Skyview High school becomes a member school and students attending SkyView will participate in Vhsl athletics and activities at

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Skyview in year 3 Skyview High school's vhsl. remained unchanged and hopefully or sports fields are scheduled for completion. tonight we

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hosted a public hearing prior to the regular board meeting and I've shared the recommended phasing plan, a transportation plan previously on June. 25th. It has not

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changed. The board will now consider the recommendation. Take action. On this phasing

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in transportation plan. So. I the chair, this concludes my presentation and I'm happy to take any questions the board may have and we have staff here also to answer questions.

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Okay. A Columbus man from Ocean. I'm sorry. Never mind. Read the wrong item. I call

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him Mr. Moon for a motion. >> If you a motion for season of asking, yes, it's going make the motion not only was on my that you are asking questions. You'll make the

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motion. Sure. Thank everybody get their piece. I thank you. I move that the school approved. Phase II and transportation plan for

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Skyview High School for the 20. 2027 28 school and beyond. Second, Moon, which like speak your motion could before I speak. I'm my motion. I have a

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couple of questions ask. First, Mr. Mission to read. first question goes to Frazee. We have a chance to establish

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boundary sky below. So, for example, are. For the freshman rising freshman, leaving within the boundary. Can opt

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To go a different high school comment this year. Yes, sir. Cutting 26 27. In the final

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year. Following a sophomore. She done cussed. You Yes, sir. But your final as a junior, we're not be able to opt out.

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Is that? The way I should understand I believe so. 28 29

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seems to be or I called to guests are opt out. If you if you're living in. The boundary

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Ifill, rising freshman because the supplies to soften one as well. If thinking that can opt

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out for full year, to graduate, that's >> I will defer to Mister

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Smith on that level of specificity. >> So if we could go to slide 3, that would be helpful. I think that some of that nuances there and slide 3. Yeah, I'm looking in slide.

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Number 3 sky Skyview high school facing. Rising freshman. 26 27 can opt out.

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problem whatsoever. Then your filing rising freshman will become rising. Sophomore. Can opt out. 28 29, that person,

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student is going to be a rising junior looking at the chart. His wrath, you cannot opt out. That is correct. The students are in red will not

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be able to opt out. The boundary will have been set. >> When you look at the students and the 27 28 school year that 9th grader may choose to not enroll and

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Skyview an opt out because again, for educational reasons, if there are programs in place for that student and

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that going transfer primacy on their remain in their base school. >> But in the year 28, 29, if you live with in the sky, boundary you shall Understood.

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>> Mr. Moon: next question has to do with the transportation same thing. she for living Now. We ask I ve been on

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established that student is if that's opt out. How do you provide the transportation elect? We not provide transportation according to

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plan because I don't see that. It's not clear to >> First year and that 9th grade year for those students

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opting out, there are still buses going back to the base schools because you have 11th and 12th graders who are not at Skyview. So because those buses are still going back to their base schools that 9th

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grade student could ride a bus in the neighborhood back to their base school because they're still seniors and bus service would be available for finally right?

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>> Mr. Moon: Students within the bounds the do what to the 10th 11th readers. Can you provide you the transportation? Because

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seniors? Would begin on T to transportation. To opt out.

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And this you try use my candidacy. >> I know our colleague, my colleagues transportation have cost of this out. And so they may be able write a bit more

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clarity in terms of what either depot stops look like for providing busing for students. We know that for students who are transferring

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those students would find their own transportation based on transfer power. >> Mr. Moon: And transfer case, I'm talking about students permitted opt based upon.

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>> I think the right I think the opt out Permenter's are still going to be provided transportation. As long as there's still seniors that

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were transporting to the Bay Schools and the opting out INS when the senior class gets too. Skyview, some sort of

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coincides. There's no more opt out after the last seniors. So gives us a >> She who have right to opt

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according Would be given transportation. >> Yes, sir, because the opt out ends at the same time. The senior transportation back

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ends. And once that's over, it's over. I just wanted to certain, actually. I do. understand now. Thank you. That was your speech to the

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motion. That was would you like to speak your motion. O'Keefe if I'm allowed come, whether a speech sense, we do

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then, you the time and you put into companies like you your motion, please use for your first on the list anyway. I am a motion so one is to make sure >> Mr. Moon: I'm happy to make additional should we shiny and

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I want I want to Doctor Reed and on the stand members because this is really calm. Pkgs. And when you when you add patients and and it's a vanity, the mix, even one company, we have this and

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person who was very passionate pleas passionate about providing transportation to you and your son. So with that, hoping that my colleagues will support motion

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mistakes that we like to speak. Your second. >> and I have a couple of questions to Doctor So I I support the the motion, but I

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wanted to know a little bit about the siblings situation. If if you could guyot, if somebody has shiny vest, be none other Sony's of one gate

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in such entity and the other one is still in elementary. Our middle school. But they want to go there in as high school are same, divisive or

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suffer vest. Really didn't want to go to Skyview. >> MINUSCA Mr. Smith to talk to the sibling of rules with

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regard to transfer Mr. Smith. >> you're an employee of regulation, regulation 20 to 30 is our transfer regulation. And within regulation 20 to 30, there is the ability for

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siblings to request a transfer. And again, it's based on a variety of factors and it's based on space available. But there is the ability for students to request a transfer. >> So I've heard thus far more

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than a few families right now. Someone invest fees, even though their rebounders Skyview. And I also where rebounder terrestrial and

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they're going to Schenn to the end the life to talk today as well. At the end, NASA public speaker mention the streets to kids in. And Chantilly and would like to continue for

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that reason. I was asking that question. So. >> And the second thing I wanted to ask that we are giving the Skyview grandfathering or I should

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fees in and next year. It is still 9. Great is it. Boundaries effect for 9. Great and for not for 10th in 11.

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For 27 28 school year. Can you do the same for other high school? Give that flexibility to the other. Schools as Just

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like Skyview. That would be that would be something we're gonna have to study in terms of the impact. About. About

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that at this point is the flexibility is intended because we're not going to have the breath of programs and we won't be a VHS else. >> The right and the other

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schools are all vhsl schools and have that full 9 through 12 throughout the program. But we can certainly take a look at what flexibility as possible. I and just to sports

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is one thing that is other programming with Joe. You're on dirty planning to go to this school because of this particular program. And then the and Skyview will slowly get up to speed. I think kind

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of has a great potential for people who want to go just fish. Nice pathways and on. And I I see great success in that. But then not all the students see themselves going

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into the specialized bottom and they would like to stay. So I just wanted to put that If they could be given one more year of flexibility. Well, I think we can take a

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look at flexibility. 8. The good news is with another high school. experiments instead of 5. The transferability should increase because schools

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should be less crowded. Right? And as long again when there's unintended transfer. You know, transportation is not provided. Just as it isn't anywhere in the division. One,

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it's a transfer request. I do think having 6 pyramids and instead of 5 will provide more, maybe I would hope more flexibility for student transfer request to be

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granted. Thank you so much to Yes, ma'am. Guarding side

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side. 3. So could it is it true that for the colors? Orange apologies. If anyone is colorblind. colors that are

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orange green and that line yellow. That transportation is provided in some form, whether it's a neighborhood to stop or a depot. Basically anything

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that's not read. That is correct. Well, that's wonderful. That's really a relief because this wasn't how it was happening previously.

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When we did the comprehensive review. So that's wonderful. I also appreciate having the cost right here. This is all an improvement of the

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information and how it went down with the comprehensive. I just want to share an anecdote about Giselle having to be at the Atlantic Council meeting last night in. There's a lot of interest rates. Skyview one is going to come online for

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beaches, cell. And I share that I've heard from I heard from 2 parents yesterday and one said, please. Advances fast as you can to get this going to be a sell for the kid

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can play. Another parent said no one should we until it gets, you know, a full team and then interview Giselle. So they just an example that, you know, people have different different wants. But the fact

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of the matter is, once once we are in school like it has comments like we can't delay it. So I know that that's going to be something that we're going to be learning about how to bring a school on

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board with a full athletic experience. So I'm here to support Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Anderson. >> Dr. Anderson: Thank you. A

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couple weeks ago I had asked about the enrollment of Skyview and there were a couple of numbers that were floated. Do we have what the numbers were expecting? Because I imagine all of the

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move. are now closed. Maybe either not completely cleanse because people are >> moving in here in new families coming to schools. I

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think number, I think we were between 7 something and ate something that we're just over 800 at the moment basis. am are still hovering. And remember with just over 800,

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we also have. Opened our Derby a sigh. >> Classes in the pool as a quiet like how to me. So that will allow students from other

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schools to join that program because of the swimming pool. Right? And then the ability to learn and get certified to be a lifeguard, but they won't count towards the school's capacity because they'll just

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know I'm more students, Chairman, Shalit, traffic and so forth. >> OK, thank you. And being that the boundary was just approved 5 minutes ago. You don't have any information regarding how many students

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are in boundary and out of mount jury yet. I do not have that if we could get that, that would be very helpful because he will give some

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contacts. lastly, I do appreciate the fact that has missed Marin, put it, everybody who's in whether you are in yellow or green or red

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on slide 3, you'll receive transportation as I am. Yes, ma'am. And so students who are taking advantage of opportunities that we going to

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be transported. I would be remiss if I didn't draw the parallel. We have other students who are taking advantage of opportunities we provide without transportation. I'm going to support this because I don't think we need to take away

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from one roof in order to get to the other. I think we just need to spread the wealth and be consistent in terms of how

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we students. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Dunne. >> this morning. If you have any updates on that from for Senate just before and after

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of the affected high schools. We do not yet. Do anticipate having that for the Friday letter? >> It's taking some time

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because we have the intersectionality of CP schools as well. So at the elementary level that we are trying to roll up. But we will

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certainly work to get that in the next couple weeks. I thought I looked and there weren't any CP Schools, elementary schools. Okay in the Western region Mr. In for

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go back. Yeah, I just want to be sure. I spoke correctly the on the map basically really it's everyone in red. The

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green and the lime green. In terms of people who students who are moving right. So the students in Orange. It's not in effect, but they this leave everybody on this chart here

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are going to get a bus. Okay. It's not just the ones that I articulated. What I would say is not everybody is the same type of routing correct summer neighborhood and summer defense. Right. And are 2

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delayed earlier. I was honing in on the phasing the ones who are being phase because that has been the point that hasn't been complete. So all in all, all the students are getting some form of transportation, including those who are facing

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were who opt to stay at their base school. Yes, ma'am. And that's consistent with the high school aspect of the Division wide, OK? I do just

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want it underscore this does follow our boundary policy. But we're approaching this differently than we just approached the comprehensive because the comprehensive

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review originally he would propose only to bust a seniors and then we lobbied to have more of the boundary policy fulfilled, which was the 10th and 11th graders. And we're

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moving more kids here. board again just rejected the effort. We're not consistent. I mean, to my colleagues, we are not consistent. We are

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saying busing is okay for these kiddos and not for the comprehensive. And I think that's really a problem.

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Seeing no waters of call for the vote. Voting. Yes, Miss Anderson. So all in favor.

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>> Miss Anderson, Mr. Freshman smear Mister Moon. Ms. Dixit. Mister Dunne, Mister Danon doctor Anderson, Miss St. John-Cunning myself and Ms. Lady and this lead it

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unanimous. Cajun to item 7.0 6 secondary mathematics pays instruction resources to conduct a refer a presentation.

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>> Thank Vice chair. McDaniel, Dr Presidio and members of the math team. they have really done the the work man,

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shepherded the process to bring us recommendations night. So doctor Presidio. >> All right. Well, thank you, Dr Reid and good evening,

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everyone. We're excited to share our math. Basil resource adoption plan for middle school and high schools with you this evening. I'm joined by Ellen McKay right here, our director of curriculum and

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instruction. And I Doctor Amy Hunter might still be online if she hasn't fallen asleep already to join us as well. Virtually definitely happy right up front to be able to

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announce that this adoption for middle school and high school. Basil mask materials is going to include hard copy text books for every one of

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our students. So we know there's a lot of support for that. And that's great. It. It's taken us a long time to get here. He knows you'll

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recall this adoption has been a lengthy process that began back in the fall of 2024. with the release of RFP and in school year. 24 25 our

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Resource Review Committee numerous times. We're going to go on to the next slide. if you don't mind, met numerous times to develop adoption recommendation. Unfortunately,

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we were not able to identify a product that met all of our instructional needs, including things like hard copy textbooks and also fit within our fiscal constraint. So we did decide to postpone

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purchasing any new materials in school year. 25 26. But we did utilize that purchasing delays an opportunity to materials last school year.

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Those pilot results, however, we're really not compelling enough to warrant automatic adoption at that time. So we did decide to reconvene our resource Review committee in

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the spring of 2026. And we reviewed additional products from the video. Lee State approved list. Additionally, those materials were also part

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of a public review process. The spring some of those materials were also part of the public review process in 2025. So we're excited to have strong consensus from both our

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resource Review committee and our community input. Sessions, the 2 vendors that we've selected which are soft and vision for middle school courses through algebra. 2 and

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then cengage for our high school courses past algebra. 2. So if we could go on to the next slide, we wanted to just share just a few highlights

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about the materials that we think really fit well with our instructional needs. So first of we've already mentioned, students are going to receive hard copy textbooks. They're very engaging. They include a

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lot of additional helpful features that we really believe we're going to support student learning outcomes. The materials are also very tightly aligns with the required V DOT standards of learning. And they're very

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teacher friendly and support. Teacher planning needs a lesson layouts. Very clear. It's easy to follow. And the materials really do support differentiation of the variety of different learners that we have in our school system. So,

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for example, there's a lot of support options for multilingual learners, which we find very a very exciting and then finally, the print materials do include some

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supplemental resources that can be used either in school or at home to support individualized student. Learning needs. We are grateful as we move to the next slide for everybody who

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participated in the public review process. The feedback that we receive from our parents from our teachers and other community members was very helpful in shaping our final adoption recommendations

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through the public review. Our community emphasize the need for so alignment and robust support for direct learners for diverse learners. Are community members also voiced a strong desire for lessons

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rooted in real world applications to make learning more meaningful. And then, of course, biggest takeaway from the community feedback was a strong preference for hard copy textbooks with a lot of

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our community members really noting that those physical textbooks really do reduce digital distractions make it a lot easier for parents to be able to support student learning needs at home as

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well. So we're excited to be able to honor those requests on this slide. What you'll note is our final adoption recommendations by grade level

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or by course, and the Associated publisher for each of those, you'll notice, particularly Dr. Anderson, that we've included are 3, 6, in the middle schools for 6 great adoption. As part of

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this process due to the unique grade level configurations. There and then, of course, all students will receive those hard copy tax. They're our digital supplemental resources

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that can be used to support individualized learning needs as necessary. But they are not part of the court program. And

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then, of course, the successful curriculum adoption definitely relies heavily on a strong implementation plan. We're very excited that our vendors have been great to work with their fully invested

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our success. And we have established a clear timeline to guarantee that our classrooms are really equipped and our staffs prepared on the first day of the new school year. So we're going to be working very closely with our

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vendors on August 19th to provide intensive b*****. Let professional development and training for all of our teachers alongside the immediate distribution of the

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resources and then most importantly, our contract doesn't guarantee accountability. Well, beyond the initial implementation year. So our vendors are bound to provide that ongoing

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coaching and support throughout the 7 year life cycle of this adoption term. So Mister Vice chair that concludes our presentation would be happy to address any questions board members might have.

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>> Thank Columbus mayor in for a motion. >> So m are making you if there are questions about the presentation, we should do

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that before we get a motion, we can do that. Mr. Dan. Friendster, Dan. No, I I want

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to do we have a copy of these textbooks here by chance? Got out and she >> I have them in my office. I'd be happy to bring them over to the board office. I could do that tomorrow. Kind I

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never made over to to check them out and participate and out but had some constituents message about going to check the mountain. Confirm they were so. I know slide. We're going to thank the folks at sat on the committee and I

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recognize that there are some constraints that and 41, you know, ideal. But your work through this for several years to get to this place. excited to go into classroom and

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actually get to. feel. And that's the way I learn math. Most of us are may be Mr. Daniel, but is the younger But

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again, appears that all work you did to put this together look forward to seeing Thank Thank you. Thank you. Miss Dixon. So this is so so

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exciting. Growing up. I view all of his red did map to the textbook. >> And that's the holes. now if I do math, I need my I cannot do it on the computer

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screen and then my son was in, I guess middle school and the end of road to to honor struck Iran. And he said my because online, I'm like, what do you mean its online? He's like

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that's how we haven't. And of a mother of 5 ADHD I It very hard for me for him to track the papers and worksheets and to bring them home and then

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return it to the school. And I just lay really, really didn't like That did it is workbook. And and the textbook. So that way the students can do their

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work. And obviously there would be additional Reykjavik separately to sell. My math is all about right doing the problem solving doing it on the paper. That's how the math is learned and the math in

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college. So I know and I'll read all all those those things that says the study are maybe more. So Ivan G appreciate the work behind this and investment and this. This is the money that is that

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the should spend money is in getting the textbooks to students. And I appreciate doing. But I did want to ask you, could this be done in-house could be have come up

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with a curriculum on our own. All are. Created it ourselves. >> Dr. Presidio: It's really important that we have curriculum that aligned,

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obviously to the state standards. It's also very important that we have curriculum that is really reflection of the, you know, evidence base and research base for, you know, the fact

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of instructional strategies. So there are times that we supplement cortex that we really feel that we need to have that core anchor text to have the ability of implementation, consistency,

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coherence across all of our classrooms. If we provide something that's completely made in-house, then there's a lot of room perhaps to be able to modify that and it might not necessarily meet all the needs that we've got for all

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the learners and all of our schools. So we really are trying to have core materials and supplement them where might need to do so. OK, thank you. >> I think gutted by questions

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on. Thank. Thank you. Thank you, Doctor Anderson. Thank you. Just Just to clarify, every student is going to get an individual textbook. That's

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correct. Kind of like the olden days when you write your name on side and then you get to carry back and forth. >> Well, you are going to have to carry it back into true yes, that's true. I just want to make sure that, you know,

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this is exciting because I do think. >> Dr. Anderson: Having a textbook come home is going to be such a help to to the parents, just understand how can I help my child? But, you know, they will have to carry back and forth. And I

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appreciate the attention 6th grade students in the very, very much. Just a couple of questions regarding some of the things that were posted

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Attachment C for some boss. Is that how we're saying that? Yes, so vast. It says here that it is. I'm looking. I

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lost it. >> It says that it's a line. There it is. It's a line to the state to standards of learning. >> Dr. Anderson: Force engage. >> Which is some of the higher level classes. It says it is.

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There's a correlation to the Virginia standards. Is this just and haphazard? use of >> Ms. St. John-Cunning: terms

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or we? And we conveying that the correlation is less. Connected to the Virginia standards because that's how I'm reading it. >> Dr. Presidio: It's mostly

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semantics. you know, some of those advanced courses beyond calculus, for example, we don't have as much guidance from the state because we offer a lot, of course, is that many school divisions around the state don't offer.

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For as frequently as we do. So there's more information and more alignment. The grade levels below some of those advanced courses. And cengage is for more advanced courses. All right. Thank you.

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>> Dr. Anderson: Also on that page, you have what is going to be centrally purchased, which is essentially everything that is for grades 6 algebra. And you have

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school-based purchase. What does that mean? Does that mean the schools and >> That's how we do our are purchasing for again. The more

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advanced courses in high school that vary from school to school schools receive a text book allocation is part of their baseline budget. That's all part of obviously.

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Consider textbook adoption funds, their central funds and then they're school-based funds. So schools are making some of those school-based decisions for those high school elective classes. >> But those decisions and that discussion. No, no, no.

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Yeah. Any student enrolled in those courses receives books. OK? Thank you

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>> Dr. Anderson: one of the things that I know that occurred in the math adoption were some pilots worse, a boss or cengage piloted.

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>> Dr. Presidio: We piloted mass space McGraw Hill. So no. So the pilots one of those pilots were just for algae for one of the few middle school.

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>> Dr. Anderson: Tax that were piloted ended up not being the ones that are being recommended for adoption. That's curious. Can use a little bit more. >> Well, I think there was

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couple factors won. The pilot was a shorter pilot ready wasn't even a full year long pilot. But what we did determined is that we didn't see compelling results which

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required us then to take a step back and open up our review process to additional publishers. As part of the video, state approved list. And then we went through that process again with all of our user requirements,

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particularly the requirement that hard copy text. We found vendors that fed or needs better. >> Do we feel that those students who are not pilot 5

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along word a disadvantage instruction, >> No, I don't think that they were at a disadvantage at all. It's just that we didn't see anything that hit it out of the park in terms of additional, you know, opportunities with those

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particular materials. >> Okay. Thank you. And lastly, what is the timeline now for the elementary math materials? >> Dr. Presidio: Well, we're

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going to have to evaluate all of our adoption needs with you know, fiscal constraints for next school year. But we're going to be looking at elementary elementary adoption process. We hope to be able to

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complete that and fy 27. >> year. 26 27 Dr. Anderson, I would asked not refer One of the things I asked the department to do because we were able to make a decision

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yet on elementary to put together. Paper workbooks. So I do and Dr hundreds online. I

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know that they're they spent quite a little bit of time putting together resources because it's really important that the children have that tactile text. So even though we couldn't purchase textbooks

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em. We did. I know. So I would ask you to speak to a city or DR 100. >> Yeah. I if Dr Hunter wants to jump in and she's she's welcome to do so. But her

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team's done a great job, really curating a lot of additional print materials so that we can make sure that we do have hard copy materials for all of our elementary students this year. Well, we contemplate. Running an

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adoption process during the school. >> That also avoids the teachers having make some of copy. That's right. And it also provides for some

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consistency. So I think Dr Hunter needed. >> Yes, sorry. I wasn't sure if I should jump So, yeah, we're very excited about the 2 new resources. Several paired providing an elementary. We'll

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have a practice workbook and also in class and journal Workbook that students will be capturing their thinking on. So we're excited about those 2 additional resources for

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elementary. >> Thank you. I think that was my time. But do we still have pilots going on Henry? No. So

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many pilots, Mr. Fresh. >> Want to start by warning children do not write your names in the book. Please consult with your parents about how to cover your book

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with a paper bag or >> or a book cover. >> We all remember what it was like to have physical textbooks. So but do not write your name in the book itself.

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That being said actually DRC, I think you and are sold. Tremendous nature of. arriving at this moment, right? The

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last couple years. We have scaffolding rig or in elementary school, mathematics to ensure that students are properly prepared for algebra at earlier years, we've piloted algebra and 6th grade

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across the school division. We've increased the number of students taking out a broad by 8th grade by 30 points. Give or take across the division.

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We're in the high 80's now in terms of students percentage wise, again, that's a civil rights indicator and now tax

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physical textbooks which should only add to the success of those efforts. You know, the higher the percentage goes, the harder it is eke out

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improvement right. So around the edges, these kinds of changes matter. Even more. I'm eager to know what's next Dr. Reid has talked about something I'm supportive of,

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even though I was a horrible mess student and middle and high school. It wasn't until college that I got hang of it. Dre talked a bit about requiring algebra trig for

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graduation, which is something that is expected in 40 plus states across the country. But not here in Virginia. What's next for us?

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>> I'm not going to get out in front board or get out in front of Doctor Reef. But I will say I appreciate the comments and shining a light on the great work that the math team is doing. Doctor Hunter and her team week, I

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are just amazing. We couldn't be prouder of the work that they're doing and will continue to innovate and push forward much as we can. >> I've had the opportunity

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to. Be in 8th grade classrooms where Al-Jubeir is being taught seeing the success of students being gauged by their educators. I think the

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physical textbooks will have a it will reap dividends for that work. And I look forward to seeing them in action. Not unlike when we brought a new base of materials for language

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arts to answer literacy instruction. So. And before people like get ahead of it, it's going to take a while for these materials to begin having the impact. We all want

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them to have. And for that to be reflected in the test scores that will measure the success. To expect that at all.

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>> Well, again, I don't know how far we want to go down that road, it's a critical investment at this time, particularly now that the state Board of Education is moving forward with implementation of the new cut

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scores starting in 26. 27. We've got to have evidence base, high-quality instructional materials and front of all of our students and that's a a core function of what we need to provide or

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teachers to ensure student success. So really more important now than ever. Thank you. >> Miss Anderson Mr. Dunne.

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>> So I am absolutely thrilled about And just as I was, so I'm extremely grateful because we have a very similar conversation last year related last the year before related to social city materials. And

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so I was sad when we had to table that because of budget issues. So I'm extremely grateful when we were talking about some of the things related social studies and I'm not going repeat the same

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question Dr. Anderson had as but we had talked about having class set so that it was less wear and tear on books and things like that. So I understand that we may not be in the financial position to

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be able to do that right now. What I would is that you make sure that you talk to high school principals about the fact that they need to issue lockers for kids that want

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them because what is happening is that oftentimes the kids are being told that they can't happen unless that there's some other reason that they would need one. And so we're going to need to figure out how to put some of those

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processees back in place to make sure kids are ready and maybe we can actually get them nor coats again, you'll never know but I just keeping these things in mind because there

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are very practical implications to having textbooks that many of our children have never faced before. And so it'll be very interesting to see how that plays out. Now the benefit is

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is it's not 7 textbooks, which is how it was every day when I was growing up because weren't on block scheduling yet. So this will help with that a little bit. But there is an impact if we keep going to

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back to the textbooks, which is I'm extremely grateful for some great work here. Thank you. Thank Will definitely work on that.

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>> Thank you. Well, all my best lines have been taken by my colleagues. I guess the next thing will bring bringing back trapper love bite Rafferty. Fair Dunham was

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great. So I mentioned last meeting. We definitely need to maybe Mr. Garton can halt the removal of lockers because there's still a lot of those schools, nigel's taking

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lockers out. But we don't have to put lockers and and make sure lockers are clean and not. Who knows what's in there because they unopened since before the pandemic. But

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building on my colleague's comments about social studies. So what this is so exciting that has a history major. My first question is what are we

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doing about social studies? Well, as I as I kind of mentioned, the >> Dr. Presidio: a moment ago, we've got a number of adoptions coming unlimited

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fiscal resources. So we're going to have to assess and prioritized. And that's something that will be working on with Dr Reid this year. But social studies is one of the areas that we have in the queue along with elementary

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math. >> Yeah, TT teaching accurate and comprehensive history is super important. So that should definitely be a high priority. And I'm sure that

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your party as well. Yeah, definitely carrying forward the books. That's definitely a life skill that along with writing checks and things like that. That. We have got a long

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time. So thank you so much. Thank you, Dr. Anderson, for go back. Yeah. >> Dr. Anderson: In terms of the middle schoolers for the

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Great 6 component. Now we have the great 6 math in grades, 7 kind of combination. And many of our advanced courses. Yes.

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>> For advancement 6 students serve basically learning 7 curriculum. So it's not really a lot of weight. 6, no. >> Okay. Because I just making sure that we meeting to have 2

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sets of tax but for advanced students. Can you also a fresh memory? What is the total investment here?

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>> Dr. Presidio: So we're still in finalizing the contract negotiations. But there is post that the board docs, an estimate of what we think that expenditures going. >> I just want make sure that our students know this is a lot of money, don't lose these

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books. >> It is multi-million dollar Yes, thank you. OK, thank you.

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I'm gonna call for the vote. That's right. motion comes here for a motion. >> Ms. Meren: The school board approves the titles listed for the secondary mathematics.

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Basil instructional resources as recommended by the review Committee and Fcps staff. This mirror. Speak your motion.

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This is very exciting. Mr. Dunne would like speak your motion. Trapper keepers.

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>> Okay. All in favor. >> This Anderson, Mr. Frisch Erin Mister Moon Ms. Dixit Mister Dunne, Mister Danon Doctor Anderson. Misty John-Cunning and Ms. Lady that

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unanimous. Thank you very much. OK? I am unfortunately in the position of not being able to get up from seat unless there is a recess. I

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need to get up from the sea for 5 5 minute recess until ad and then we'll go right into

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the various motions. 5

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>> Board members, please

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return to your seats.

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Board members, please return to your

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seats. Okay. We're going to go ahead and get started again.

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And before you onto action item, 7.0 7. I did want to I was reminded that tonight is the last night of someone who has served Fairfax County and Fairfax County, Public

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Schools. For 32 years. And I want to go to recognize and thank Marty Smith.

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>> For his time at >> Do you want to go back, Marty? Are we are we good?

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Okay. I call on Erin for a motion. >> I move the Fairfax County school board to direct the super intended to prohibit the fcps issued laptops and tablets for students enrolled

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in pre-kindergarten and kindergarten commencing in school year 2026. 2027 except for students who require access to and use of such devices for individualized

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education plans 504, plans. Translation purposes or multilingual, education, support. Is there a second second, members like speak your motion. Our job is to leave the school division and

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direct the superintendent and not the other way around. I don't want to wait to be told what to do when we already know the clear and present harm that excessive and

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inconsistent technology use is doing to our children. The research is there. And so if we tell the superintendent to fix it, she will do it. If we're not willing to lead that, we have no reason to be

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up here. I trusted my ability to make this decision. After reading dozens of books and articles about the impacts of technology test scores are down. Writing is lacking for incoming college students,

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mental health sufferers, children's lives, social cognitive skills. These things happen because children are glued to screens that are unregulated and meant to be

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addictive rather than using basic developmental. tools like pen and paper crayons and and pencils and face-to-face interactions. Children have their entire lives to learn how to use a computer. There

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is only one shot at being a child developing through face-to-face interactions and it's developmentally appropriate not to use devices. I also was listening

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to the first meeting of the Education Review Council, pardon me get the name correctly, correct. But what was interesting about the meeting is that a presentation was given of the history of

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how devices came to be in Fcps starting with 2014, the fcps on initiative. And when I got on to the board in 2020, we were in the midst of deciding whether we should roll out

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devices to middle school didn't to high school. There's a lot of debate and 24 and middle school. We're in the midst of the start of COVID. We laptops. Well, that plan

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was being implemented. And at that time, the educators, we're learning how to use devices and elementary school was going to be next to learn that have that professional development. But guess what? I

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learned devices were not on the plan. For kindergarten and Pre-K. So the division has never planned to use devices

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for the youngest students. So that to me sealed the absolute deal that we've got to get these addicted devices out of our children's hands for the youngest greats at the very least. I certainly hope that

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my colleagues will support this. >> Mr. Dunne was like, speak your second. >> Yes, for you know, I don't

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think there's been a time in my life when I've looked 3, 4, 5 year-old said. You know what that could really needs the tablet. All right. kids need

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to play outside. They need to learn how to hold scissors. They need to learn how do use their imagination. They need to know how to exist in this world and spend time with

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their peers and and learn socially, learn emotionally. And and and while AI and many of these innovations are are great. In many ways, we need

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to introduce them to the real world and all the facets of it and what an amazing world it is that exists and how much there is to explore,

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especially through individual creativity and entrepreneurial type activities, learning to not be afraid of learning to get up and keep going. These are values you learn on an athletic field. These are values that you learn from

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your family, from your community. What we do know is that if not just 3, 4, 5, year-olds who should not be

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tied to an electronic device. So many hours a 7 days a week. And it's also older children through elementary school and beyond. And while I would personally prefer to, you

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know, you know much broader scope sismo shop through at least second grade. I don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I want to make sure that we can progress

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starting this coming school year and then have a foundation upon which we can build in the coming years. What I know is that there is no evidence that despite the

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utopian visions that we were sold by Google some years ago, that but a Chromebook and every child's hand, then wow, what an amazing future will have. Instead kids who are now

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addicted to YouTube in watch ads for from politicians all day long. We know that social media is causing anxiety, ADHD and other distractions making

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people feel worse about themselves better about themselves. So if you take all that away, you end up with healthier, more physically active. More venture. Better

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developed human beings. And at the end the day, that's what it's about. It's about or language and vocabulary acquisition find motor skill development, social emotional regulation and really

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achieving early literacy through the best and only way to achieve literacy. And that's with books because books are the best thing that was ever invented by our good

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friend. I couldn't Berg and the 1500's. I really do believe that based on all of the evidence that exists, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Federation of Teachers and

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recent Education Week survey, all the evidence points to we need to get the electronic devices out of the hands of our 3, 4, 5, year-olds and eventually maybe older children as well. But this is a great starting point.

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follows in the footsteps of other districts including Arlington and foreign countries that have already pioneered this work. So I look forward to supporting and working collaborating with my

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colleagues to make sure that we can protect our children from the perils of electronic devices that too early of an age. Thank you. Thank you.

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>> Doctor Anderson. >> I'd be remiss to not point out that we just voted on math textbooks and everybody celebrated the book. And so

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this is an opportunity to really follow that up with a similarly consistent message, which is to just reduce the dependence on digital

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materials, particularly for the age group that is here. I shared this with Mister Dine when he first began to talk about this. I do not think this goes far enough because

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first graders are still 6 years old and should also have the same kind of protections that are provided to the 3, 4,

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5, year-olds as well as our 7 year-old. There's some space here to grow. So I will just leave that there. I also want to point out that it's

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important to and for size that there are some there is some flexibility built into this because we do know we have students who use devices for communication. This is not mean, this is not intended to

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take that away from them. There are some students who are needing their devices for to help them access the language and that they don't

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yet have proficiency. And and this is not going to take that away from them. Although I would argue. That to learn English, you need to be

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speaking English, not just listening to it from a device you need to converse with someone else. So I'm pretty excited to make this move and hoping that we will have

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support for it. >> Mr. Moon. Thank you, Mister Vice chair. And then I I am

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people vote. Yes, however, d overnight and it's crucial questions, too, about complete. Doctor Reed, as you know, that this be cut from

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meetings ago. I decided the have PT I C E established. And we did in fact for the numbers

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to our appointees and to community to work with. >> We to come on view motions

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tonight. Do you think? Would be the impact? And the work ETA. I All of these motions

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passed tonight. >> Well, I I think the development in the identification for the need for any TRC was really visionary on the part of the

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board. >> I think any time that you can bring together community members and staff teachers.

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Principles. >> We have central office staff students, parents to work around challenges. We're going to get better solutions,

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right? So I think that's a core tenant and I'm excited about that. I didn't have a chance to stop by the first meeting that Mr. Set the in Dutch Presidio working hard to create space really robust

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conversations. I think that. Anytime we are talking about decisions that are going impact children and educators in classrooms. It's important

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to have that shared conversation. So I think even though all of these motions are going to likely have some impact on the work. It's important that the committee,

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I think have an opportunity to connect. particularly on the use or the prohibition of use, whichever way we're going because I think that when we

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see and that we're going to move in a different direction. Just as this evening, we talked about math textbooks. That's going to be a shift for teachers and educators who in

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for the last decade or war in Fairfax County have not used textbooks right? So I think that having that group at least have the opportunity to have at least a couple

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conversations about those shifts is part of a really healthy change management process so that we can really be thoughtful as we're now going to turn and communicate

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too 200 schools. Right? And you are responsible for essentially 180,000 children. Here's our shift. And here's why. And here's what we're

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going to do instead. And here's why, right? Because we really want to ensure a sustainable. we're sustainable path forward that all of us are on the same page to the

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degree possible. And I think any committee has a chance to dialogue about that. And I read some of the backgrounds of the people you've put on

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the committee and the Quite impressive relish. So I just anytime we have enough to to have that conversation. I think it can be really helpful and it can only enhance, I think, the potential for

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success of whatever the decision is going to talk to you. Yes or no. >> I'm not going to predict. One outcomes show. Emotions

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tonight. You know how it how he come out? What I'm hoping ease maybe to USC. You want to bet I see. To each work

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because, you know, we gave some missions. He gives him so too. So to mending the ETSU to be working on. Continue working on. even even if the

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the board makes a decision on motions. If the E T I C. Fields the teams that he's worth your time. You missed a some time. To get some of the

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Chip for the defense. Only decisions. You know, anything any recommendations can put place. As mentioned, I think.

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You should With that to my comics. >> I'm not I'm not as many kill for I putting this motion on the emotions. I receive any

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company to see whether supporting these emotions, not just to spend too. Which put.

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The people You know, we're on a GAAP. Dozens of applications and we could do select one best one. Each one of us. And

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I do not want war. I don't want to prejudge more. From the get-go. When Tucson.

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something this motion. Mr. Good evening. Good morning. Just. >> Just briefly, I really got my colleague brought this forward and I'm really

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supportive of it. You don't usually with any kind of operational trying to be really mindful about the impacts, right? We've got teachers that on summer break coming back in a month. you do not want it to surprise them,

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but think it's gonna. Cause undue burden. But it having spoken about teachers and principals and support these kind of changes, right? A lot of murder working towards that end. So I did a couple questions along that lines. If

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you all can just speak to the some of things that I heard come up, come up a lot with some teachers. Really we only use these for the minimum amount of time. That was I think at that. First grade Can

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you talk a bit about to the minimum amount of time for Lexi and team at maybe by those exist. >> Yes, sir, I can. I think one of the the classic

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concerns at this point is that those many moms have been here to for guidance. And I think that as with any guidance,

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right, there is a certain latitude. 2 refined that guidance individually in a classroom or perhaps a school or at a grade level and >> I think what we've heard

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loud and clear is no longer can topics around that technology in the classroom. Be guidance, needs to be clear direction. Right? So that's one shift. I know that staff

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are talking about. If you want specific minutes, I statue Presidio to talk about team after Alexei a map for you. St see a reading. I'm not sure

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what some of the other, you know, elementary programs are potential Presidio rate. Those. But there are recommended. Guidelines for

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the amount of time. I think some of the concerns have been raised understand that there's been. More or less adherence

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to the guidance that's been provided. >> Mr. Dannan: Can you talk little bit about just what looks like? It does younger grades, I guess maybe working your way up from Pre-K in first grade. Second grade

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expectations can guard. What are the expectations around? You see Jen? I'm so what are what are the alternatives? If a teacher doesn't want to matter is we change the

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guidelines and they don't need to use anymore. What it's what able to use to teach with. >> So I sorry, I wasn't sure which grade levels because in

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terms of like what's a typical use like of the guidance you cite for Pre-K and kindergarten right now Pre-K and K. Dr. Presidio.

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>> Yeah. So language Arts and St Maf personalized learning. Program usage is pretty minimal, right? Like an hour. A week. It's going to vary

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depending on students. If they need additional support, if perhaps, you know, showing learning needs below grade level on assessments that they're taking. But on average will be around 60 minutes a

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week for Lexi of 45 minutes for us to map. But I think the problem that we're starting to see is that the usage of devices creeps beyond those

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particular uses. And 2 things lay using it during choice time or if you finished your activity, you can get on the device. And I think that, you know, there's a lot of

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spillover effect. Usage of the devices that really has not been intended. And I think that's the bigger issue in the bigger challenge right now. >> do want just clarify and

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thank you, Dr. Presidio. Our educators are working really hard every day and doing everything. We know to do and

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doing extraordinarily well here in Fairfax County. And I know everybody on the staff behind me and the board. It is those men. It Inc would agree. We have some of the best educators in the country. So

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we're very proud of them. And some of this transition that we're talking about, indeed, much of it is going likely require some level of

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resourcing and support be a time with staff, new ideas, resources for different materials. So just think we need to be cognizant of that

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because it's not. I say this that I think. We are currently utilizing the time just

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efficiently and effectively as humanly possible. And I I really want to think about ways that's part of the importance of the committee that Mr. Moon was talking about making sure we have ways

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that when we are going to be directing. Less use of certain resources. How are we gonna then backfill the new

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resources or the new support? Because I know educators are going to want to continue to do everything they can to support children. >> I that to exist within the

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educators that using minimally Denise that are down to 4th in eyes Texas educators. You know, they just have to raise easy. And so there's I think it's about being intentional. And it's funny pretty talk about the change management

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side of it and talking about this with my wife. She's like, you know, it was it's like taking GPS from somebody that you have to give them a map or something else. I'm just trying to be mindful what you need from my study over fill

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the void, make sure kids because what I don't want is to get a scenario in this is it can happen from this motion. I don't think. But it gets a scenario where, you know, we've removed devices

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are make action too quickly. And that's enough to crack car things back because test scores dropped. should be mindful of that. And again, I'm excited for that for the committee's for my colleagues to bring this forward, I want

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us to just given Billy of my colleagues. And my constituents questions. What given with the committee's been saying, given that the research team and so forth, you know, what are your

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existing plans heading into before this? And this passes on leasing transporation devices at kindergarten and then be on stills levels. First grade second grade. 3rd grade. Do you expect any other

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changes? Yourself through those or are you waiting for more direction on that? I think that.

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>> The really right now relying on E T R C. >> really be thoughtful about recommendations. And right now we've got a number of topics,

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Cuba for them, right? We I think that priority right now is making sure we have the opt-out process in place. And so for the beginning of the

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year because it was a recent board motion. So we want to make sure that gets done. We also want to make sure that the digital literacy curriculum, that staff of work

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done, that we move that through the committee because August 19th is our only day that we have to really provide training for staff on that

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particular topic. So we've got to have some vetting of that topic before August 19th we're you know, we're just not going opportunity to share that with Steph. So there's certain

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topics that are really cute up. I think I would really appreciate the committee having an opportunity to just have a dialogue about the PRE

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K K. motion option. and I think the committee would have an opportunity to do that, we would certainly still not distribute devices to Pre-K

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and K, you know, until we had some finalization with regards with the committee thought. I really so in terms of further grades, I think of it want to

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reserve comment until I have a chance to visit with staff. Part of this is we want to make sure we phases. So we have some resources. The grades go up, some resources

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to provide in lieu of what? Has been done, right, so that we're creating gaps for staff for educators in what they're able to do in the classroom.

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>> Mr. Dannan: There's a just close by saying I've heard from some teachers, really great suggestions for their colleagues and so forth about ways to especially teachers who taught before of devices and all that. And excited to go back to some of those

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methods and so forth. So can speak for the whole board based. We're ready for anything else you need from ice to help. >> You know, push east through and through these. Yes, sir. And I just I mean, I can't

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lose my GPS. So I had a map. I would be trouble. Thank Sticks it. >> So thank you for bringing

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the motion this matter. And done. >> Lady I, myself because I've worked in one of them, too.

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>> So I wanted to say there are a lot of motions today and of and we are already in Skyview boundary and everything is already close to mid on this midnight. I don't want to be year to 4 o'clock in the morning because I have

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to work tomorrow and as well. I want to be. Shorten my comments. I will support most

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of these motions, but I want to give some opportunity a discussion to Dr 8. I did not have a chance to discuss it with the make of the motions.

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I didn't because I was busy with my own bond review and done. You did reach out the U.S. tab. But I did not hear from this and like to have a

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conversation with the board itself about the summit site. So but anyways, I did reach talk to it. One of the parents sitting Iran teacher and I'm unite. He said had a

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conversation someone about it. So I e. One don't like the word for him. But in general banning this, wedding, this Manning, I just don't like that word. Soul that's of our

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tools. And in many of this, so Doctor Reed, I wanted to say there's going to be any exception to students. Could it be for the students who are high achievers? And I know can

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can. as you would say, oh, I mean, those are just little kids. They may not going much more than drying and to bring

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numbers. I had a son and still have a concrete he he could do double-digit edition in kindergarten and I would like them to. And my idea was using

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tech was also in specialized programming for those kids who are advanced of big reads and the teacher can not give them condition of in play. You

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know, books are worksheets and then they can go on a resource like this and they can x-rayed that map. Knowledge in growing. That's if interested

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and some kids of this natural fashion from Athens, you know, reading. So I don't want to take that away from even from kindergarten or so. I would say there's of a beacon

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include some of our kids who may need the extra supplement. And I I know it's not going to be majority of kids, but you have kids who are. You know, just different so. That's what

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I would like to here. Thank you, Erin. So just to reflect on where we are, started

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policy that we're working We made some headway and we're going to continue that in the fall. >> Ms. Meren: In June we had a set of motions that that I helped bring and the board

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rejected prohibiting devices for Pre-K to to Pre-K to second grade and storing devices away. We also rejected having a digital literacy instruction plan. So this is another attempt to do what's

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right. So look, either we act or we don't. Both of those are decisions. So far we have decided not to act. Some

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members have said, well, I don't know the operational impact. We've made all sorts of decisions without that. I mean, the best example is the AP Middle school middle school AP Senator Middle School. We decided that and we didn't

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have any data given to us about operational impact. It's our job to set the vision. And the superintendent is super

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experience. She will figure it out. I'm getting really. >> I look the educational Review Committee and will get the acronym right one day. The

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name. >> That is not the that is not a substitute for us. >> Ms. Meren: That was an additional resource in no way. Will I relegate my

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decision-making to a committee which, by the way, we don't even have the membership of I attended the meeting. I don't know who was there. I don't know who is on the committee. It's not posted publicly and

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there's no way I'm going to relegate my decision. That's a great resource. Just like the strategic Planning Committee and the Superintendent Squad committee and the Boundary Review Advisory Committee. Although we know how that went

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for Skyview. I'm not going to put all my eggs in that review committee basket. Okay. We're the board. We have been talking about this for months. We know it's bad for kids. You

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know, we say yes, we say no. But both of those are actions. So I really hope we can say

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yes. Mr. Dunne. Thank you. >> As reiterate, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends limiting screen time for children under 6 in

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all settings. So just from a medical perspective, that's an important fact keep in mind. But I also want address my colleagues concerned about the

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intersection with the TRC. All I can say about that you hear see is that in this age we're in a digital age. It's it's rare. It's an exception to be

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buying textbooks right? And the the universe of issues to be addressed by the E T or C is nearly infinite because they're so we're so deep and to the digitization of our

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children and their education decades. especially since the pandemic, which but the whole thing on there or if remember being at meetings in the 2015 timeframe when getting to one

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to one was like a decade-long plan until, you know, suddenly pandemic brought lots of billions of dollars to make that happen very quickly. This motion doesn't preempt. The each year sees brought to

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work. It really just addresses the narrow urgent gap for the upcoming school year. While the committee works to a much broader agenda. The mandate of the Etr see is really to

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review at tech policy systemwide, including for older grades are the issues are much more complex. The tradeoffs to more complex. And I don't think anything that this motion narrows are free determines that work because

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that's really where they need to focus. If anything, I think this motion is complimentary because it gives a real-world implementation for them to study and its first year. Right? Pre-K and K is an easy

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call, right? If you get into older grades, more difficult. And so this allows an example. A pilot is think circumscribed to 2 grades where you really

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don't need devices. And if the board wait for the tear seas for review before acting, I mean, I don't know when that will be in the future because it's not like their meeting every day of the week. It's a it's a monthly meeting so we

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can't wait because we know our kids are being harmed today. These are the most vulnerable kids we need to start the process of weaning our kids off of these devices and allow

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the year she to do its work but not wait for for that. Your seat to complete its work before we say, hey, maybe we should start acting now. So that's that's just my

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viewpoint. Thank you. Dr. Anderson, for go back. Thank you. I don't tell a lot of stories, but I'm going to tell this one

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>> when I was a student teacher, I was any preschool classroom where this young little kid came in and he walked into the classroom first day. He read everything

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on the wall. He was 3 years old. My teacher at the time this Mary, who was helping me become a teacher. She asked me to go and work with him

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separately because he was just. Far above everybody else. We read this book right down to the last page where he said property of Kalfus Elementary School of Niagara

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Falls, New even read the stamp. This was a kid who had gifts in. He was ready for more. It was not a computer insight and he got more.

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Granted. this is not any time soon, but I know out teachers who have these masters degrees that we strive for. They can do this and challenge all

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kids. I don't want us to walk away with making that having a device is the only way file kids to be challenged. That that is a disservice to teachers because I've watched what my children's teachers

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have been able to deal with them. And I think I've said this before. For some reason. And I don't know if they came together to do this, but my children's futures and both at the high school and middle

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school level, math teachers did not use any devices. They had packets that they provided. It was a lot of hands on. They may have supplemented with some other things just for additional

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practice if they wanted. But their core was really a packet. And I believe that my personal children got a lot out of it. Having said that, this may be a shift. Certainly any time you do anything

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differently is a shift when there's a tree that falls down on Gallows Road to have to figure out how to get here. Because I can't just make my typical route work. It's a

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shift, but it is not an impossible thing because our teachers aren't getting enough to get out. Kids. >> The advancement of the challenges that without a

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device. Plus what they said. >> I'll take a turn. problem. You may only turn for the

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night considering ahead of my daughter just completed kindergarten and there was a gentleman that spoke. The previous board meeting about his daughter as well. Who would bring home our Alexa

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certificate? And how proud she was that like says to forget. And it resonated with me because my daughters done that before. She's brought home that certificate. She's been

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so proud of it. And I checked Lightspeed report. I know how much she's on the iPad because I checked reports and its our ish a week. That's my daughter. I'm not making the claim that that's everybody's

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kindergarten or first grader and just it's an anecdote. I've been very consistent about this educational stuff that my sole concern is twofold. One now we have the

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attack committee. They need to have time to do work. But number 2, UC implementation is how it could impact teachers and administrators and how how we can actually get done.

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Because even free supposing that this is the right thing to do, which I'm I'm I'm certainly in direction. If it's not done right. It is not executed properly across all

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141 of our elementary schools. Then it's pointless. So I was not comfortable with the motion is brought, but I think there's going to be a proposed

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adjustment to it we'll see how that conversation goes. So with that, Mr. Dan and I call on Mr. Dan, for an amendment.

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>> I move to amend the main motion by inserting to the end of it. The following language, this prohibition shall remain in effect, pending the Educational Technology Review Committee's recommendation to the superintendent and any

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resulting board action, including the adoption of policy. there a second? Mr? Can speak your motion? Now

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take you know, from a different county here to share a little story so early in my career, I served overseas in the Peace Corps and found

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myself. >> In in the African bush where one in 5 children died for. They got to age of 5 years old. And I was in charge

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of managing hospital an area of 10,000 people and 100 square miles in their resources. And I was terrified at that responsibility. And

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I'm eternally grateful to be doctors and others who advised me to say, look. Trust the experts stress the medical

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decisions here so it may be little more of a dramatic way of saying that if this is I think it really minor emotion, but important amendment to show the respect of the experts in the community, members in the volunteers and

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the staff were already put in countless hours. I committees. We can change of policy anytime we want is this motion is sonseeahray. No, but I want to make sure we get the respect of those and and make

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note that we are going to be working on the policy continue that work that was done over the past 7 months. you know, look for to get the recommendations of the of the

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stakeholders, Mr. Fresh, thank you. 2 points. One, a I want to be clear that the structure of TRC was specifically designed.

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>> To not usurp the authority of the board. And that was a consideration. There are some people to advocated for committee that can do like decide things. And it was

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important that the structure maintain you know, the the board's role in all of this. And so I think with this motion does, it does not change the thrust or impact of

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the motion that ending. What it does is the Telegraph's to those in our community who have reached out and said I thought we were having here. She worked this. So we're still interested in what each year see comes together with

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on this and what we're voting on tonight will remain in effect unless the board changes direction or formalizes it in actual policy. And I think eventually

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that's the direction that we will have to take as a board is something that is referred back not just found in board docs from a couple years ago when the board voted on it right. And so. This does not

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change the thrust of it doesn't change any of the language of the actual motion and adds to it could probably been done as a follow-on motion. But I think this is appropriate to. And so 2 are

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members of the TRC should tell you that we're still interested in your thoughts and your work on this. Not only. Pre-K k but beyond that

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as well on the other subjects that were likely to engage in in the policymaking discussions or emotions that the board eventually decides as well. So I think that

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Telegraph's the community that we that we value the work that they're putting into the committee. And that this is going to be the law of the

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land and it will in perpetuity until the board takes the recommendation of each you're seeing decides to do something with it or in transit and

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policy center. Okay. I'll call for a vote on the amendment. All those in favor.

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>> Miss Anderson, Mr. Freshness near and Mr. Ms. Dixit Mister Dunne, Mister Dr. Anderson, the St. John-Cunning, Ms. Lady and myself, that's unanimous. The

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main motion has been amended. Tucker put the so call for the main motion. All those in

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favor. Sanders. That is unanimous. A Columbus from

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Ocean. >> Good morning. I'm move the Fairfax County school board to direct the superintendent to deliver a plan later than November 12 2026. for the

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storage of Fcps issued laptops and tablets in the classroom or other areas when they're not in use by students for instructional purposes except for students who require access to and use of such

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devices for individual lies. Education plans before plans, translation purposes or multilingual, education, support. The plan shall include a proposed timeline for division-wide implementation. Second as

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Mayor. So this is the next generation of the motion proposed in June that was rejected by the board. So this is just an information seeking

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motion. It's requesting a plan. By November 12 from the superintendents to tell us how she will ensure that laptops are stored or devices are

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stored. I want to say that we implemented more screens in the classrooms without properly evaluating their benefits, but we definitely know their harm. So again, we can do more to structure how

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those are used. We have really heard from parents, students and educators about the problem of the UN structured screen time. The laptop sitting on the desk. It's heartbreaking to hear how kids

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are distracted. Both the kids that are using the technology in the kids that are in, but they're watching their classmate or maybe their classmates behavior is changing because they're getting all riled up. >> Many teachers are are

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already delivered with technology. So let's standardize this practice so that kids are not mindlessly browsing on laptops instead of engaging in learning with

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their teachers and their peers. Mr. Dunne.

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>> So every single one of us in the room knows what happened to the smartphone or a laptop. Sits open on the desk in front of us. In fact, when I worked in law for my wife, use leave him alone.

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Whatever my blackberry buzzed. Even if we're trying to pay attention every chime every paying every lit up screen is a quite full on our focus. And we're adults and we struggle with the No, I do. So why

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would we expect middle schooler a high schooler to submit classroom where an elementary school student with an idle screen. And not be distracted. Not be, you know,

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potentially addicted to it. How can we expect them to do better than than we do? And when a device it's open during direct does not learning tool.

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It's an invitation to check out. We cannot ask for teachers to constantly compete with glowing screens for our students. Attention. This motion directs superintendent to bring us a practical plan

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and only a plan for storing devices when they aren't actively being used for a lesson fully preserves. Every are part of commendation. It is 5, 0, fours and English language support. This is just

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a process motion top-down mandates to get a professional staff, the flexibility to design storage solutions that fit their specific buildings and grade levels while establishing division-wide

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consistency that our families, our teachers like right now. Some will say that we should wait for the chair. See early this entirely chance. But I really believe that establishing basic consistent

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baseline expectation for classroom management isn't micromanagement. I think its governance. Giving staff a clear deadline. Also each year see real operational data to evaluate for than forcing

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teachers to navigate another year of digital chaos. So putting devices away. I think we've learned cell phones when they aren't. Part of the lesson is common sense. Restores the classroom to a

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place for students. Look at their teachers, talk to their peers and focus on the work in front of Thank you.

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>> Mr. Thanks again for state is being brought forward and very supportive and just had a couple comments or questions for staff. So talk to a number

1495
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of folks about this. And want clarify with this. If we approve this well, with this plan, incorporate grade level. Scenarios and so forth, what different storage might look

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like given that was I had a issue and in the life of a teacher email me to say at the high school levels that could created a burden if you know, it's too tough to put something in a a cart in a

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different room to come back versus putting in their backs. Is this something that you're going get too far ahead of ourselves? But it's something take into account. Something

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sorry, something about regarding how plan breakdown recommendations based on grade levels and school types and so forth. I had just lean over and ask Miss Anderson, what 3

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levels this was for. But >> K 12. One, 12. guess that's my presumption reading it. But I do yield time one 12. We're

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going to go back and take a look at a plan. You know, I haven't yet. So don't know what that looks like. At this

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moment. But it's not. I mean, it's likely to create some level of system that is going to take some level of time

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just like. You know, the cell phones or anything else has. >> Can I just clarify motion makers or anybody who wants to answer? Is this presume this

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is for K through 12? That's correct. Thank The another teacher, Sheriff principal Ashley Reckon shared that the they hate the laptop cards. They're so bulky right? So

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this plan look at if we were to go take shared. Like a computer lab model or shared computers for a single grade. That kind of thing. >> Many of our schools don't

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have extra empty classrooms for a computer lab. Honestly, any longer. Many do, but many don't. So I don't know that that would be a consistent.

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>> Mr. Dannan: It's I'm just wondering if maybe suggesting that that it it considered this an area where we go, the board adopt a policy where we do a one to one devices and we have grades cards or something like that could be taken into

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account. And this these recommendations. So, I'm just asking asking if, as you develop this plan, you can

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take into account the fact that the board might adopt a policy that does away with the win one devices and goes to guide a grade level models like that reach great. The scent of black ops that they

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share. I think it would be helpful for them. >> Planning to know what we're planning for, right? So I think currently we're planning for the I'm trying to look

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here for the storage of the >> laptops and tablets. Which are currently one to grades, one through 12. So that would be what we would bringing back

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on November. 12th, which is different. Then maybe having classroom sets that Haskins like. So I I just want to be clear on what we're going to plan for is don't have the team said often do a comprehensive plan for one to

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one the board is going to move away from one to one. Does that make sense? Because I think it would be helpful for me. Maybe then to better understand the parameters for us to plan. Okay. Maybe. The

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house and had another teacher. Sure that the. >> Mr. Dannan: don't like the cards in the used some kind of a sleeve in the back of the room that the kids it figured out, very well and got the device out of the way. So again, just may be asking shes

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you about this thinking of the the art of the possible or what might the difference? And I was like in terms of >> Sturridge, you know, I think we used to have cards, but understanding is we don't

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have them anymore. So we would have just purchased them again. because I believe we surplus to her cards when we

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went to one to So. You know, I think. Something have to take back to staff to actually develop. I just say it's going to be kind of wild like when I was Pete a president, we

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raised funds to buy a laptop cards so that they can be stored at school. >> then my own child's Baxter users for her own work station right to the key bring that back and forth every day. So

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it's going to be interesting to see what comes out from this. again, everything from ice, happy to Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fresh. I think one

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thing that the board should be. Guarding itself or is any plan around? This is going to

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require us to. Consider. The difference is that the different schools and the equity aspects that go along with some schools having and much easier go as storage than

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others. >> I think about my schools that have been renovated in recent years are says those that have the type of space that might be available or the type of space that might be available in schools that are future renovated. If this is part of the thinking going

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into it. So that's something to think about. The other thing. And I'll just put this out there because it's going to be consistent. I think in every motion that we talk about tonight is, you know, the governance aspect of this

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board and how. To achieve the things that people are talking about tonight. There's going to be a required runway of resources. Because change cost

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money and I think the superintendent is very politely telegraphing to us as a board and to our allies in the community. That aspect of

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change management that this is going to cost resources. And so when we think about proposing a motion to spend X number of dollars on this and as number dollars on that because we all want to do a

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million different things. That's money that can't be spent on transition or change management. And I'm supportive

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of the motion. I think the plan is essential I think it'll also maybe answer some questions of the board might have down the road. And I also

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see the timeline is such that you hear seek a totally weigh in on it and this is one of those fall timelines that I talked about earlier tonight. Right? Let's all have a little grace for staff. Many of them

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are going to engage in the same in all of the things that we're talking about tonight in the August September, October, November, time frame. So while

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it says November 12, I'm hopeful that we can get it then. But we're not exactly putting up hiring signs for

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central office personnel. The last few budgets. So we need to provide a little bit of grace to make sure that we're getting optimal work as opposed to work timeline.

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Thank you, Ms. Lady. >> Thank I certainly support this. But a lot of comments to make because, you know,

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something's just pay me throughout my entire career. The number of teachers who didn't feel empowered. For didn't choose to be empowered

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in their own classrooms to control their classrooms. They're teachers right now, the majority of which probably do this with Fidelity. When I'm not using the to the

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device for instructional purposes, it is a way it is not a distraction. It is closed. It is put somewhere my

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concern with this is. We did surplus the cards. We've also talked about not sitting devices home. I'm worried about the additional

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electricity bill for us to be charging all devices in the buildings. If we're going out for cart. So this is going to have to come with a price tag.

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I don't believe If I carts because I think there's a way store devices. But I can't emphasize enough the fact that

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we need to if a teacher doesn't know how to use the device. Instruction score and all of the things that we Valerie outlined it. What's

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going to come in the in the technology policies? That's a problem for me. But I believe the majority of people. star system. Can manage the

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classroom. And can manage kids. Closing their computers and putting them away. So for me, I mean, yeah, plan. I don't know what but the

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sleeve. We first started dealing with cell phones. You know that we're shoe racks on the back of you know, doors that people put them in. That's fine. But there that

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day. You know, again, it would go over and over and talk about the fact that purpose of the device. Is to use it in

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structurally if you're not using it structurally, as you put away. So I support the motion. I just want people understand that there's a this it's going to be a fiscal.

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Issue. I believe that there's going to be dollar sign that comes with it and I'm personally not interested in spending any of our precious dollars to buy carts. And I'm

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really not that interested and I don't know what the impact would be electricity for charging all of them because that's a problem, too. Because when you issue a device, then you get issued your power

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forward. And if it's at home, we don't have enough that we don't have to power force for her computer. And and that's that's a problem. say, want to

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say just left me, sorry. I'm tired. I have amazing point that I've forgotten. So

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hopefully they will come back to me. Thanks. Thank you. Dr. Anderson. >> Dr. Anderson: Thank you. I

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just want to raise like this is about and I'm actually glad to follow Lady, even though she lost the last of thoughts. This is really about intentionality. That's it. And somebody who spent 23 years in

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classrooms, I can envision how this can be accomplished. 3rd grade classroom. The computers could be stacked up on a on a ledge on a desk on a table

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underneath your seat. There's places for it to go that don't require additional resources because we all know that, sir, that's a consideration. Even high school. All right, folks,

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walk in. We know the high school is a walking with their computers. But on the floor. Underneath your seat until you need it. Or until you leaving. If you don't need it that day,

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this isn't all have to be this big, great thing it just doesn't have to be. And I don't want to oversimplify it. But there's some easy ways to ensure that there's

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intentionality because the whole idea is this cannot be guests on your desk just available for access the entire time. And I think that's what this addresses. I

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would love. Thank you. Maybe that was the brilliant statement Ms. Lady wanted to make. I would love for us to. That conversation that you're talking about is not this

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motion in terms of, you know, one on one devices and class set. That's a separate conversation. Would love to have it, but it's not this conversation. This is just really trying to ensure that

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it's just not constantly available. It's like that popcorn that's in front of you. You're going to eat because it's there. But it doesn't mean you're hungry. You know, like what we do back there. A lot of time. It's

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just available is just making it less available and it doesn't have to be a complicated system that's going to cost millions of dollars because we know that those resources are hard to

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come by. I do, however, do see some opportunities. With limiting devices at the younger grades K. Pre-K.

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savings that we can then call into some other things. Maybe, you know, transportation for face kids, but that's a thing.

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And also now I lost the thing I want to. >> A stop here because literally just what.

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>> Alright mystics it. So as a budget chair. My new position. Thank you. I wanted to how many classrooms do we have on

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the cross CBS? It just a ballpark number. 25,000. So I just did a quick search on

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this laptop cards. One cost about $740. And you can to the times 25,000. 2500, what

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Cummings? A 5,000. You know, we cannot buy cars of that that's what think. >> So if this isn't just a plan to just put the laptops

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and chair on the back of the room. >> Why does have to be a plan can be just do this like it's not to. It's This is not. understand. But this is not

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like you know, it's not a defendant on the money like a budget or it doesn't cost cost new term solution. It is something we could you know.

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If you to teachers Steelers students to put the left a bully. Are they not doing that? Right? Not not to going to be able to do that. OK? So

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even if you say that to all the teachers, it is up to them to implement them in the classroom. How would you see each classroom is getting that on this? There's a storage

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device which is light students know they have to do the work. And to put that away. I think just. Asking a lot for for

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teachers the teachers on board that that I think. We need to have that teacher voice in this matter. This is just a plant. So I'm OK, supporting

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it because we're not activity giving a directive right now our own making your decision on it. But I do want to feel that was that easy. Just like

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the phone thing rages. You know, with the phone only you use the phone in the classroom string have don't access to that anymore. So again,

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teachers can do that. But at the same time, it's like on them. So you guys all support this, but I don't want it to be any any to our flat. our

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budget and not millions of dollars. Okay. I've mostly for go back.

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>> Thank live. Really its return. 2 mystics. Its point. Yeah, I mean, this is that we get is going to con constitutional thing. But to

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answer a question, what I was trying articulate was I think it's unfortunate that we have too many teachers that without giving being told. That they must have a plan and it must be put away that they

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sometimes don't feel empowered in their classrooms to have a plan and own their classroom. I'm just saying that as the ministry for 15 years, I knew which classrooms like ago by

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they be like, why can't make them do it? And then there's the people who you walk by. They own the classroom. So first of all, like teach about coach him up so they own the

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classroom. But the is we can't do go back to computer labs because the one to one. Is how we do, you know, cashing for testing its deployed to that

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particular computer. how we damage to computers like the one to one is that that's a unique law. Give that your computer. That's how parents see light speed like there's

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all kinds of reasons. We have to maintain the one to one. And that's just a strong belief because I also believe strongly that technology can allow you to yell to be at its

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best inclusion best enhance, but learning experiences for all kids. When Hughes purpose purposefully. Those are just the point I want to make. this

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has to be cost neutral and I don't understand that teachers don't always feel empowered to say I don't use technology all my classroom because that's an option. It was long as there

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deliver the curriculum. With Fidelity. And making sure that kids are, you know, constantly in motion around, they're learning. So that's all I want to say. I do support the motion. But fiscally neutral.

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Thank you. >> Thank you. Seeing call for the vote. All those in favor. >> Miss Anderson, Mister

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Frisch Erin Ms. Dixit Mister Dunne, Mister Danon Dr. Anderson, a St. John-Cunning, Ms. Lady and myself, all those opposed all those abstaining,

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Mr. Men that is 10, 0, 1, Motion carries. Okay. Just real quick housekeeping note

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as a reminder for everyone in the making comments NOAA's Center during a board member speech, maybe a breach of decorum. I know it's getting late and all tired and say things can sometimes get form

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of the late hour. But I'd like to be a stickler for decorum. Robert's rules. So just as a reminder as we continue to go through this effect called Mr. Done for a motion.

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>> I moved the Fairfax County school board to direct the superintendent to provide a comprehensive inventory of generative artificial intelligence, tools and solutions provided by or

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through fcps on Fcps issued laptops and tablets by November. 12th 2026. and to prohibit the use of such generative AI tools and solutions by students until a

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formal policy is adopted by the school board to govern such usage. Mr. like to speak.

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End of 8 AI is not just another piece of classroom softer. It raises entirely new urgent questions about student data privacy, academic integrity out think accuracy

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and child development. It right now embedded AI features writing assistance, automated tutors adaptive algorithms are operating on district issued

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devices without a clear comprehensive accounting or a formal policy adopted by this forward. Our students should not be an ungoverned test case. While we try to figure out what is already in their

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hands first, it directs the superintendent to provide this forward with a complete division-wide inventory of generative AI tools deployed Fcps laptops and tablets 5

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November. 12th. We need to know what exists in our digital ecosystem. Plain and simple. So we can build policy based on facts rather assumptions. Second, puts a temporary pause on student

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access to these gender of AI tools until this board adopts a formal policy. To be clear, if this means restricting actual student access and district devices, not just

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dropping a paragraph into an acceptable use document. And maybe asked whether we need to wait for the Educational Technology Review Committee. This motion directly empowers

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that TRC because an accurate inventory is the exact baseline data. The committee needs to do its job. Pausing ungoverned use ensures that E T or C can do its work with a

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clean slate rather than trying to walk back habits that were normalized without court approval. We have heard loud and clear from our community about data privacy, van der Oversight and screen time

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asking for an inventory and setting basic guardrails before student news continues is fundamental for governance.

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Thank you. Mike was off sorry, Dr. Anderson. >> Dr. Anderson: this is another ask for information. A lot of these motions are organizational in nature is just the plan for future

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action. And this is what this does. It's asking for a list of generative AI materials, not genova out materials. And I would also insert that other 3rd bucket that I've talked about quite a bit. Dr

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Presidio, which is >> the what you've called Jenna generative AI. But in closed systems like the St Map and Alexia. This is just information that's going to be

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helpful to us, helpful to the community and certainly helpful to the committee. Ms. Lady.

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>> Thank I certainly can appreciate the spirit of the motion. I mean, quite frankly means spell check is generative AI do a Google

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search generally. I. I'm just not sure I can support. Prohibition on the use of tear of AI tools. I do want to have a Tory be great. I'd love to see coming comprehensive, but

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I think we need to realize how much of what happens. Organically that were. Accustomed to before we even knew it was a I. It's

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happening. So I'm not sure I can do a fan. My preference would be quite frankly there for going do this. It would be K through our Pre K through 8. I still think we could be

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doing this with our high school kids. We've talked about digital literacy. We've directed superintendent to come up with effective digital literacy. Changing at all. Great grade levels. You know,

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I was just at the St Conference in celebrating the students from. Robinson because Robinson High School who created the Civic plans

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app. They use play laugh or use other AI the tremendous amount of technology to create this amazing thing. want to international award for it. I

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just think here we got kids too. Know how to drive a Maserati. And also not to replace their wording but to enhance their learning. So.

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That's just my hesitation. I love the list. I just like to prohibition Front man. I can live with it through grade 8, but I don't know what that

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means because of kids writing a paper. Edward, how do you turn off spell check a turnoff grammar check. So I guess those my questions. Maybe to go to staff. Mr. or somebody

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like, what would this look like? It is even plausible. To prohibit the use of any AI. Until we have a foreign

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policy. That's a question. >> Yeah, I think one of the key questions that we would want to clarify is the definition of generative AI

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because that definition I know looking for the policy governance process, mapping some definitions. And we have some looking definitions in there yet to be approved. But if you have a good definition,

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we can certainly go back to windows and mask. For the garden state. I would also suggest that timelines because the the number of end as we

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have reach out to could be substantial anyone if you give them a few weeks to respond to a lot of praise. That could be long gone. And on time. But we will certainly try and get as

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quickly as we need to fit the definition. >> Could you clarify ballpark about how many vendors Mr? Sethi if you wanted to be comprehensive that want talk

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every vendor was an artist to the ecosystem liability, not all of them maybe use country, but that library has upwards of. 100 plus tools in there

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and some of them. I'm not necessarily student, but Yeah. And if a school, so a comprehensive reviewing that we want to send something to everyone there to say. So to

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find what you have in this tool, how does it work? And for wide, maybe when if you just ate because what they don't have turned in 6 months, they would like to be capability like AI and there

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just to keep competitive with the market landscape. >> appreciate the answer. And again, I I think I you know, I

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don't that there's an appetite for any type of amended language. Here to limit this to K through 8. But I don't think we can. Be limiting our

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high school kids we go launch these kids and there's a high expectation that they come into. Place. The military

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college with deep understanding of. The appropriate uses of AI. So just I think we've got teach with fidelity, but that's my concern. So I don't know if

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there's an appetite for that on, you know. I'd like to offer an amendment. I don't care terminology to say Kath

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Pre-K through somewhere in this current language.

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>> Mr. Thank you so much them. Mr. Chair the the one major problem I have with this

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motion to ease as written. I think he's missed a mister. Mr. Go from stated that. We do not have adopted definition

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of. To me. I so if you want to have to come up with your own use that to come up with the may be student September to

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heat. Just want to know what you. You we know we would have ease. Has a certain benefits. If he is simply a he Brian

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could put. If you another plan to put his mission of using those tools onto board, adopt a policy. You don't know when the board is going policy. BNY

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orders to lose, identify to be on list would be prohibited from the years. I mean, that's I don't know what the impacts would be. Could someone tell

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some some pretty some pea size St Map and Nexium. Some simply You'll only working definition of what some of the blues to

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lose. My. Our high school students might be using. >> I would sit on deferred to

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City on some of the instructional tools. But one example, which would be to complex would be Uber tools right? Not so much opportunity. I inside the Google documents, but Google

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searches sometimes come back with a response which is a generative AI by a strict definition. If you suggest that we locking all generative AI and we essentially block Google search on together so

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students would have no access to such thing. Shouldn't be an issue from an instruction perspective. The teachers never want them sourced and didn't put anything by some

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sort us up prohibited. >> Oceans from using research. With an

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>> Yeah, I mean, I think absolutely with a lot of our students use Google for research purposes. All right. So I mean, right off the bat than you know, how restrictive

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do we want to be with with I don't necessarily have a lot to add, particularly at this hour. But I do think the definition here is really important. If we're talking about. Generative Ai chat

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features, as we've discussed in some of our previous conversations, we do not allow and we do not intend to allow access to those tools and tell the board adopts a policy. But

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if we're talking more broadly generative AI Mr. Sethi is just pointing out and you end up with things like Google, Adobe, PDF makers as

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misleading as pointed out. All kinds of different things that potentially could fall under this umbrella term of generative AI. >> Mr. Moon: And again, it's a state, you know thing heading

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the list. The new list of what you are using using maybe staffs. One thing, the physician, I have some benefit. And plentiful

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mediation until we look at the policies, something I and not political. Sanderson.

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>> Okay. I just have a few questions. first during our work session, we had come up with a plan that I thought was a good start for the policy related to differentiation screen so that it was nothing

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from Pre K through 6 or 2 elementary. Nothing middle school was with very specific guardrails. And then high school was a little bit looser. I think that that works the best in terms. I

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think that the thing that I have, the biggest concern here is along with what other colleagues have said is that we don't have a good definition and I'm not OK with

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just blanket Lee prohibiting use K through 12 without a little bit more differentiation. Specifically sense. Some of middle school after school programs doing

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things like model UN where they absolutely need to be able to do research and oftentimes you at least start, I mean, is someone who topped this for a very long time. You

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really start with Google like just start with blank here. You know, search terms and things like that and then move into more advanced things as you figure out what your key terms are and everything. And

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so I just that's my only apprehension here. So I'm all on board with getting a full list and making sure that we understand what they are. I'm okay with some guardrails put on. I certainly don't want,

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you know. What we think of is like the large scale model generative AI. I'm not suggesting that we need that. What I will say, though, is that I do believe that it should be allowed in courses

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that specifically say that it's going to be allowed because we we just adopted not that long ago. In addition to the course catalog that would have allowed a class related

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to to AI. And so it doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me that we have. We would blanket Lee. I mean, I have no idea whether or not we have schools that those that we have kids signed up for those

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classes starting in August. And so it would be I think shortsighted in our part to just have a blanket prohibition until. Understand

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where it is, where it is. I can say I 100% be comfortable with elementary a prohibition because I think that's the way the board's going anyways. And so I don't have a problem with

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that. I just have a concern when we get into the secondary level for headbutting, if it's not at least in the course description. So I think there's a way we can do this. That would get us to where we

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are looking that we're going to go without necessarily burning down everything right this moment. Thank you. As Mayor. This is probably won't

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be as coherent as I'd like it to be. >> Ms. Meren: We hear all the time now a bombing by the second since we began this work in January, it's only

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grown and what's happening is very sophisticated. It's the transformation of the whole information economy and the digital universe. We have this digital ecosystem now got to shift our thinking to accepting that. motion was

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born in June to have a digital literacy plan that specifically spoke to a eyes roll. This board rejected that. So now we're further down the pike with nothing in

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hand we're seeking to prohibit it because we don't know it. This motion has 2 aspects and really perhaps it could have been better broken apart 2

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different motions. One is about cataloging what we have that seems like a no-brainer. And actually I have asked for that as far back as October. Not for just a I but for all digital tools and we sort of

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have it. But one list is like 400 or 700 account. I don't know. It's unclear. Certainly the new committee wants to see that stuff. The second piece is to prohibit it until a

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formal policy is adopted. But here's the thing, quote, students are not using generative AI fcps and quote. Doctor Presidio, our chief of

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instruction for academic officer has said this multiple times. So what's the big deal? It's not being used. If

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there's a distinction between generative AI like a chat bot like a chat gpt and something like Canada or Adobe, I say they're part of the same category because if we allow

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this, that is saying that we are allowing cognitive off-loading. We are allowing our students to take the easy way out when we are here to challenge them. That's the

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very heart of this. So look, this is holding holding place until we hear more. Yes, students may know how to use this and if they're going

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after club or whatever. Well, there are CPS issued device. They can't do this. That's just how it is. I will say the European Union has an amazing document that I would love for

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us to use of powering letters for the age of age of AI which centers on instructors knowing how to talk about AI right, talking about what does it mean if you spell check? Was it mean if can bet to generate

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your image of a house for your book report when you're in second grade. So look, students may know how to use this but unleashing a I even on the 60,000 teenagers in

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grades, 9 through 12 in Fairfax County, Public Schools is not something I am willing to take a risk on. This is a

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request for information. And a pause. Until November at the earliest and perhaps longer. It could also be seen as an incentive for us to do our

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policy. Right. We want I I don't understand we could possibly have any courses that allow or require generative AI because again, students are not using generative AI Fcps.

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So absolutely support this motion. Dr. Anderson. Thank you. I saw my questions were around exactly what MS Man has

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just talked about. >> If we don't have tentative AI being used in all schools should be a huge issue. So let me just confirm Dr per I just

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heard you say we using generative AI and instruction. >> Dr. Presidio: So what I've tried to say consistently as we've had these conversations is that we're not using generative chat AI tools our

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schools were not. Providing access to those tools to our students. And we do not intend to provide access to those tools pending the board policy

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at all. However, the term generative AI can be interpreted very broadly to include a lot of other categories. As we've discussing things like Google

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search things like spell check right? So that's where nuance lies with particular language here is how we're defining the term generative AI how merrily or how broadly we're defining

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it. >> Great. Thank you. And that would describe some of the some of the platforms were just talked about earlier. And

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Doctor Reed, I recall asking this Congress this question during our work session, which is until a policies in place. All of that work is

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essentially paused. >> It. Yes. And I think there was a question in some of our dual enrollment courses which

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are dual enrollment with the universities in the area. So I think that was one of the go back and checks because I think some of our dual enrollment courses have a I

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related. Either requirements or, you know, agreements that students have to understand because as students matriculate post-secondary AI is a part of the learning

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culture you know, when students leave high school so we were still inventory dual enrollment. But if we if dual

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enrollment courses use AI and we need to freeze it, we may need to enroll. Students from dual enrollment courses. >> And I don't think that's where we're going with that. And I think for me, at least

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that's new information. I don't think we should throw the baby out with the bath water on this one because the St map and Alexia. Those not the concerns. It's the generative chat Ai. Components

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which you all are saying are not being utilized. Dual enrollment. You know, as it is, I think there's some space here for some restructuring of the language that I could be a little bit more specific to

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speak to that because I do not want us to lose the opportunity to gather this data. That's going to be informative for future activity and action by this board. We just need to tighten

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up the language to be a little bit clearer. So I know you all having conversation, but I'd like for us to be very specific. The generative chat

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AI, which is already not being used, will not be used and I can't remember the exact language that was used at the work session regarding the

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notice to parents. If there is a component of AI such as the dual enrollment. If we could just send bet that we don't have to make this a thing that we have. We have to pick up

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back, you know, September or whenever we come back. So I think there's some activity there for us to to salvage what we're hoping to do. Add even say as much as if we

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would be able to just that's the couple. Let's get the list. I don't think anybody's disagreement with that. I haven't heard that one person say where disagreement with getting the list of the things

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that exist. I've heard Mississippi say we need little bit more time. So let's get that done. And then it's tease out the specific things with the rest of reflect this conversation. That's my advocacy. Thank you, Mr.

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Dunne. >> I move to amend the motion. I circulated to clerics and the school board Involed is the changes. I move to amend

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it without objection to explain. I've put To reflect that Fcps can define gender AI is. I move that date from

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November 12 to January 14th. I limited the motion to elementary school students for the advocacy of my colleagues. And I had it in an exception drafted by my colleague, Mr.

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Dan, to allow specific exceptions, if authorized by school principal or the superintendent or their designee. And the clerk's please put. So we can all see

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it. of the murder. of order stand by. There was a motion made. >> It was a question without objection, I suspect is going

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to be injection. Is there objection to doing this? >> The item was Mister motion. And so he can't amend his own motion within our rules at

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this point. Another member can bring But at this point, Mr. Turner can't. >> So someone else going to have to bring amendment. We are, you know, it's going to

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be objected to. So don't even ask for without objection. So someone's going to if someone would like to bring marred and it's still your turn. But you've been fortunate not bring the amendment.

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>> I believe I've addressed the concerns that have been raised this evening. I incorporate the for vision by my colleague, Mr. Dan, Limited to elementary schools that provide more time for Mr.

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Sethi and I allowed it to be if I'm for gender of AI with that, I don't believe there's a need to the couple because having addressed the objections this brings the

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clarity. It brings the scope if rings that time frame. And I believe the first part non objects to I think now with the second part amended. >> We're within the ballpark of what we've just and

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consistent with what we've discussed previously. >> Abbott, second, from happy to bring in moment. Okay. Are you done? Everdry everybody?

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It's already spoken as want to keep speaking. Please turn your lights off. Please turn your lights off. You want to speak anymore. do another

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round. Okay. Miss Anderson. >> I'd be happy to bring the amendment as posted. So. I

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believe that the clerks have that and can it can be posted. So if change, 26 to 27.

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>> Yes. If you could, please changed January 14th 2026. Because that was last year earlier this year.

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>> Okay. Miss Anderson and the clerks are right now. Building this into the documents. And this Anderson made the motion to amend. Was there a second

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that motion to amend? >> second, okay. Motion made and seconded. There are a lot of lights went on. Someone go down the list. We are discussion. We are discussing

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the amendment to the main motion. To be clear. Mr. Dan. Thank you. appreciate thought here. I my concern with this

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is that there needs to be some safeguards protections for students at the higher levels as well. So I'm thinking of, you know, spoke with the in our teacher the other day. Who

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Very sternly, does not use any kind of genard AI tools and adamantly against it. But will give other teachers that do perhaps out, you know, finale.

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And so I don't there's a way to clarify this a little bit, too. And I still write this at the work session, have a moratorium on elementary

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school level but then also for any use beyond that, we have to through authorized either the principal or the superintendent or designees. So again, yeah, I'm feeling of

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trying to words, but this but my concern is that this? It doesn't give any guardrails at the higher levels for money. From what I read, I could be

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wrong. I would differ agenda. Yeah, I I would love to see guardrails at the middle high school level so that it's and take folks at their word that

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as not being used as part of general instruction all to just try to be mindful as well that there are specific uses. We had team in Robinson was one of student groups internationally that one award

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for creating a chat bot. And so I think those intentional uses should be preserved while also making sure that we're being intentional about not letting folks use. So again, I

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don't know if there's a way Smith this to. delineate that. I guess just added the

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condition that Dr. Anderson. >> Dr. Anderson: Along the same lines of what data just shared, I feel like we've swung entirely in the opposite direction where it probably

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will invite more specific use. I again, I'm not trying to over simplify this, but we're not using generative shot a I.

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any level. I don't think you return. You So we're not using any level. So there's some way to engage that in here. That

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would be great. And I know we referring to the great work that the students dead. And I was it is the and I was there very excited for them. But the question begs for me is how did that happen? Was that

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generative chat Ai? Can somebody help me understand how those kids came to do this

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wonderful work in school. >> I think they were using AI, but I think is an elective in some of the students were certainly easy it outside of

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school time. The play Lab Corps Mr. Sethi, if you can clarify, it does not require general a classroom. >> Those that quite different

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set of goggles on I-four had to get permission for to the coach who was managing the student Hughes and the 2 itself was not focused like a gpt Gemini. It wasn't a

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general purpose chatbot tool. It was a cool with specifically not a school being able to use those tools. The bill other tools, but not to be able to say, give me my hands stance of our the

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general's office chat. But those that exist. >> OK, so let me make sure that I understand those students were not using the gender of chatty. I that I think has become more of a concern. Yes, we have some

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issues with Google, but I don't think we started that conversation. There. So I want to summarize for myself. We do not use Jenna. Did generative

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chat Ai unless. It is a dual enrollment course. Unless parents give permission at

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school. Is this an accurate statement? I think that.

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>> I will ask Doctor Presidio to answer that. We went back up to the work session to make sure. And that's when the dual enrollment conversation came up because we don't. syllabus

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for the you know, the colleges are doing on course is what I was asking not to Presidio is where are we with some of peak. right. Because as we move into more. Sony out, that

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was the question. I didn't get the answer city. Just much to him. I'm just trying to get clarity for sure. So our data set departure for so again,

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we're. >> We are not using generative chat Ai. Okay. That's not available to students. Mr. Sethi, kind of clarify the play lab experience and how

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that was different. That was outside of a course parent permission. That was something that was very different. We're investigating right now. Right? To what extent if any

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AI is featured in any of our dual enrollment courses so we don't have a definitive answer to that yet, but we don't believe. we know it's not widely used if it's used at all. So we're still

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investigating. >> I think spaces some space for us to put some guardrails regarding the gender chat AI, which I think has been the primary concern and to allow

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the rest of the work to be taken up at a different time decides whatever time this is 1 o'clock in the morning. So.

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If we can make that amendment because >> now I'm feeling a little bit less comfortable and the we do use UN of AI in all schools. Because there's all these other Kathy,

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disclaimers. I so that we're not clear on. The nose, then it seems as if there are things going on that have not been clear. >> I think that there's bit of

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a chicken and egg right now. We're we don't have a clear definition. That's a shared definition for generative AI. So I think. Where staff is, as

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we're trying to. Answer questions based on a moving target because emotion doesn't say generative AI chatbot tools. says generative AI

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tools, right? And so we've I think per city has been offering a qualifier. But I think that definition is crucial for the conversation

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to be clearer. So. I think we're trying answer it directly as possible. But there's so many there's almost a continuum. That we could be addressing. So. I think that's

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part of the challenge in this conversation. >> That at some point, I think I would like to raise the secondary amendment to

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separate the list from the prohibition.

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>> I'll stop there. Thank you. Miss Dixon. The question from a society do want mention school students used Go G

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Mail. >> Students do have access to a G mail accounts. Guess. >> And you may have no automatic automatically.

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Everybody has access to Gemini for creating find or email. >> No, not. They won't have access to those. Those with on be switched off whenever we have the ability to switch off their switched off in every

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student access account. So they they would not have access to any of those tools because they can be switched off individually for different uses.

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>> Okay. Just want to make sure GM and those automatically give it everybody Steph. Yes, like you. And right now on this, there's an AI capability and the Google Docs itself, but we can switch those off. But the

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Google search. There's no VA to switch off the Google search capability when it comes in but United says it's high, but it is the new and said you want to make sure we

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can qualify for everyone for clarity. >> And I think because such as user lot distance like this, Anderson said 4 model UN science Olympiad. Lot of competition, good soaring

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during finds bowls and other competition. The do research as a group sometime as a team >> I'm interested in what Dr.

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Anderson says about decoupling those. I'm comfortable with the force part, but getting a inventory a Generative intelligence tools used. I'm not comfortable with the

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second one, which is the prohibition of the use of engine right now. I just need to do little bit more analysis on that. And maybe more

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questions needs to be asked and answered. And I think not right now, we don't just have the time to go back and forth.

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Thank you, Mr. Fish. My apologies. I didn't realize so quickly up. >> But I've sent amendment

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language to the clerk. I share the concern about guardrails and secondary. And so I would

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propose that the language 2 Mr. And I remember who made this amendment? The Sanders

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Amendment. The Ventriloquist amendment. >> The >> as follows. So after the word school. Elementary school.

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>> It would read students, comma. And will only be permissible for secondary students. And then you pick up the language when specifically

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authorize don't include the loss. >> Mr. Fish. I think what you're trying to say is I sent

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it to you as well. Right? I move to amend the amendment to make motion number 3 by inserting the phrase. And will only be permissible for secondary students. After the

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phrase elementary school students before the phrase unless yes, specifically authorized in writing. Yes.

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Without objection. Kind of protection.

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>> So that's my amendment. And I will wait for a second. >> I can. Second, just. I mean, I just have under not am

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I? >> Fanned by motion to amend the amendment. There's been a second on the motion the amendment. >> So discussion on the motion to amend the amendment. Yes, I support my amendment. For the

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reasons I've articulated. Thank you, Mr. Dunne. I'm pleased to support this motion. >> It aligns with original

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intent of the motion, which was too, you know, establish to have. The protections for students at all grade levels. And I believe this provides

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the flexibility at the secondary level which secondary to find those middle and high school as well as secondary schools like a field

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and allows uses that are like play lab developing apps for educational purposes, but doesn't allow unrestricted ungoverned uses as as we currently face in and our current school environment.

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Thank you. you're recognized by everybody doesn't want to talk on this item. Thank you. Ms.

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>> Their every time we have a new amendment or a new motion. The list restart. So Erin, please on on the amendment to the amendment. Thank you can't

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even find the one we should. We need to get the language up on the screen, Mr. Frisky pleas for that to the full board so we can all see it. Mr. McDaniel, it's there. We

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to school dance, go down to. We can see it. There is the

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amendment to the amendment that's under discussion now. The way I see it, this is a very poor way to be making decisions about the education offered in the public school

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system. This is. I'm remembering on the last board. We could not get anything passed. We could not make sausage at the table like this. The way I see it, we are

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here because the superintendent has provided no direction, no recommendation or data about what AI in Fcps looks like now what it could

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look like and guardrails look like. And now we look silly. >> Because we've been asking for months and asked in June and here we are trying to make it up. >> We're in the middle of the

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night making things up at the dais. >> This is not a good way to govern and is not leadership. This motion was originally presented over a week ago. People have questions and changes. Bringing them at

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midnight is not appropriate. It's not professional and it's not fair. We're not doing justice to enormity of this topic. We clearly all want to talk about this. Let's that time and every work session

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this coming year to go through the aspects about instructional technology we need to work through. But right now is not the time to beat this. Vote. The motions up or down and then let's move

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on. We are just not going to be doing our best work now and it's certainly not going to be database. Please. Can we just vote the motions that were presented over a week ago and

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stop with the off the cuff decision-making 480,000 children. And 25,000 adults.

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Please. Thank you, Mr. Men. Mr. For sure. Like still on. Did you want to speak?

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>> See those calling for the vote on the amendment to the amendment all in favor. Yes, Anderson, Mister Frisch, Mr. Moon Ms. Dixit. Mister Dunne, Mister Dan and Dr. Anderson, a

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St. John-Cunning, Ms. Lady and myself all opposed. This mayor and that's 10 to one lead in motion passes. So the amendment has been amended.

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please have the amended amendment up on the board.

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As of course, get mysterious light on. >> So to be clear, we're amending this because one superintendent said we have do. One school board member said we have dual enrollment

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classes that need access to a I and because although we prohibit generative AI, we still need to say that secondary students need it. And we're also going to uncover the school principal,

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which I told the Bringer of this amendment, whoever came from the superintendent in my experience, has always shied away from naming specific school staff and physicians as we've done in governance this

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past year. We've moved away from naming certain positions and always saying the division superintendent, not their designee, not the name of the position that has been the

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superintendent's preference. >> Ms. Meren: And not only here we were going as far as to in Cumber a school principal. We are burdening school principals with no Are

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we kidding? And does anyone talk to principals? I mean, I asked well, I would have loved the actual well, it's too bad. It's unfortunate that I got this proposal at like 4

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o'clock today. That's not good policy making. And I don't mean one principal. I mean that we talked to. >> The Association of High School principals at Middle School because we actually have those associations that

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could formally engaged with us and not just do this stuff on a fly by night basis. There is no way I'm approving something that is directing principals

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to do something. Thank you, Ms. Lady. >> Sorry, I didn't mean to

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have my hand up. Marmon. Thank you, Vice Chairman. A 2. 1 o'clock. wish to God. How many

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more motions? Full motions. And we have a few other motions have. This is not the time to I mean, I. With the

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Erin. To think of the can find a consensus. All these remaining portions college U.S.. forward to the And come

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back to us with the recommendations or the otherwise on. I'm going to be going to be voting. No. Every

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one >> casing know there's a call for a vote on the amendment to the main motion as on the screen all in favor. Sanderson, Mr. Frisch Miss

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Dunne, Mister We're on. We're calling for a vote on the motion to amend, which has been amended, but it's going to amend the main motion. So we're back up to the main motion Mr. Dan and St. John-Cunning Dr. Anderson, Ms.

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Lady, myself all opposed. Erin, Mr. Moon that passes, the motion has been amended.

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Now we're on the main motion. Missed period. And Mister >> So this was a motion that I

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know I worked on with Mister Dunne and once again, I'm in the position of seeing work that I've done hijacked at the dais. Similar people. And it's

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really frustrating. And now I can't vote on this. The spirit of board work is supposed to be. Everyone comes together to make compromise and do things not to say this is what I'm doing, take it or leave it. So

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now I'm gonna leave it. And this just builds bad working relationships. And this is why the board continues to be fractured. I reached out to the maker of the motion about

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the principal stuff. And I said this and I said this rather than have a conversation. It's just time to shut out. And so that's the parlor with which the work is

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being done. >> Okay. calling for the main motion all in favor. Yes, Anderson, Mister Frisch

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Mystic's, Mr. Dunne, Mister Dan and Dr. Anderson, the St. John-Cunning, Ms. Lady and myself opposed. Mr. Moon Abstained, Erin. A motion 3

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passes. main motion for a column, Mr. Done for a motion. >> I move the Fairfax County school board to direct the superintendent to develop a

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pilot program to implement a tiered, positive list. Waitlist only fire while architecture for Fcps issued electronic devices at 2 elementary schools, 2 middle schools and 2 high schools and

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provide this plan to school board for approval. No later than December 10th 2026. with implementation plan no later than the beginning of the 3rd quarter of the 2026. 2027

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school year. The development of the pilot program should consider access to apps, extensions and websites by grade levels as well as how such an architecture would provide additional protection for students from cyber

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bullying, inappropriate content and predatory behavior. Further move to direct the superintendent to report to the board and the results of the pilot by June 10th 2027 to guide possible

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Division-wide expansion for the 2027 2028 school year. Their second second, the student, which I speak, your motion. Right now. Fcps relies

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a blacklist model for Web filtering on district devices. We block known bad sites but new gaming hubs, gambling platforms and streaming workarounds. So if your everyday sources are smart to

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find those cracks very quickly, it's an endless game of digital. Left them all in a reactive blacklist means we're always one step behind. So I believe we need to do a pilot.

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A very limited pilot. And I'm happy to have schools in my district participate in the pilot where we use a 5th capabilities that already

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exist in light speed where they have a white list capability to have a positive approach under this default than I approach only approved vetted educational tools and

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sites accessible and district devices. To be clear, we already on this technology, our existing filtering fight for him has this capability built an and that's a simple

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system configuration. Not a costly new contract. And for all of our discussion, nothing budget neutral. This is preeminent example. This pilot want the real learning it will launch of the course target

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list. Google workspace canvassed research databases and include a streamlined exception process for you know, participating schools, conducting open research, more

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importantly, running a small public. Is this real operational data to inform TRC deliberations and it workload in classroom. In fact, before we consider a division rival F and I'd like to thank my colleagues for partnering with

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me on the language. Thank you, Mister >> Mr. Dannan: I'd like echo that and sure this is a really example of how collaboration happens and works. Well, start with a little bit of a story.

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So at the beginning of last school year, my own son who I hope is in bed by now. But there's a small chance of still watching got his first one to in that come months

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later as October November, I attended my first meeting. Like-minded parents and library conference to hear about excessive and unintentional technology use. And you can put 2, 2,

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together. Why was there? And it was there that would like the sting was and that frustration in front of fast forward, 6 months later, I got elected and Mr. Set have test

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for the very first things I asked him was, hey, we're about what think we do a listing is a great idea. I I read about and so these are great accent and an opportunity at the example preparation, actually, because

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brought this to Mr. Dunne I've been a few days ago me and if I think we conversations, Mr, Set the year e-mails or something and, you know, we talked about this and she he

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you know me that I recognize that he gets a lot of flak, some that deserves did not. But I really appreciate the thought and the seriousness of this because he's like, look, if we want to know if this works, we need to not just do

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a plane. We need to test this out. Don't come up with a pilot and that that have multiple pilots and so forth. And so I want to give kudos to to both Mr. Study. And so my

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constituents who've been working on an individual basis to try away the sting in this is how this works. And so I'm I'm grateful from looking for to seeing the results of it. I will keep my route for

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principals in Braddock that want to do this. My sense is that there are looking forward seeing this summit comes out from the recommendations. Dr.

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Anderson. >> Thank you. I'm happy to support this motion. But what I ask in terms of staff selection of schools, the pilot. That we give some

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consideration to what that could potentially look like because we know a lot of pilots very often start with the title one schools. It's always a title. One schools. So I just went for some consideration for us to be a

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little bit more expansive in terms of who we reach out to. Thank you, Miss Anderson. >> I just have a few quick things to say. This is one I

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have a little bit of trouble with just because I'm not 100% sure. I'm on board with white listing for secondary level. For the same reason we've been talking about, I am far more in agreement with it for

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elementary school because but I don't even know whether or not it's possible to to differentiate by grades. I also am wondering whether or not it can be managed at the

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school level because I'm very concerned about just that. The sheer volume of time it will take to approve individual sites. When you are talking about kids that are doing research and things like that and I've already heard about

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the implications of the just the sheer volume of sites that we have blacklisted that stop students from being able to do things that are essential to their college career, you know, their future college

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careers and things like that. So I would thisone that I definitely I can't I'm not sure that I can support it in the way that it's written. But I would definitely support the

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idea of going to the TRC because I want to hear more about it and want to hear more about what the pilot would look like and what our goals are with the pilot a little bit more clearly than just

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broken out by different. Levels of schools. So I'm not sure I can support tonight, but I I am behind the idea

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that thank you, Ms. Lady. >> Just real quickly, I my colleagues. Comments in regards to. Age

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appropriateness and everything that I've done in terms of White listing. Is that there's implicit bias in to pay on who's making the list. I'm not sure that we're going to be

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one Fairfax and B is culturally. Responsive as we need to be based on what we think is something should be allowed versus something that I may personally never think

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to search. Because I'm Caucasian woman. Someone else might. That's my concern. So I have the same off issue with

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this I prefer it be maybe elementary and middle school Pilate. come from whatever high school. So that that's my

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thoughts. >> Thank you, Mr. Dan. I just don't want to acknowledge those concerns and those are valid. And to me the benefit

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doing a pilot. I want to Mr. you get your thoughts on active. Talked about too much as schools. 2 middle schools to high schools. Can you explain that the thinking like why that would work the

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concerns that may cause the dressed about, you know. May be scouted to one high school thoughts on that. >> I mean, maybe think about what's going to happen on the back end of this is that teachers would have to help us

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understand all the tools and resources they use in the classroom on a daily basis and then elementary level, it's a little easier because one feature in Baghdad levels. When you go to the high school

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level, the complexities. Far larger. So did a collection from teachers to be able to help tell us exactly which tools nationwide listed and

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then being able to put that in validated tested. And it's just a little more high stakes in my opinion, at the high school level, right? an IB student get started on time

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and that I time and they have to work through 2 or 3. That, in fact, would be a little more sensitive to education outcomes. But we can certainly work through the process as

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defined by the board. >> Mr. Dannan: One thing just say that appreciate breaking up into developing a plan and then we would go to approve that plan, right? So looking at the plant, doesn't set

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aside these concerns, we can always down. It's OK, love and high school. We're gonna have different a way. That's dad. So hopefully that'll. For now we're taking a step to develop

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a plan that's going address these concerns. can work to identify schools where these pilots good could be implemented and proceed. Once

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we have more information. I just want to had that >> point very hard and foot stomp it that this is not a motion prove to approve a

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pilot program. This is a motion to bring to the board a plan to do a pilot program. So there is an intervening step. And if you look the motion, it

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says this plan to the school board for approval right? So fiscal burden to prove it. The pilot didn't happen, but this is something we like to floor.

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And if it's not technically feasible or if their issues, I'm sure Mister Sethi will tell us all the reasons it's a terrible idea and the board want to prove it. But if it technically feasible and if it

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is, you know, it has enough benefits to recommend it. And there are, you know, school districts that have high near this. And then then we can proceed with a limited pilot. See how it works. If it works.

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Great, we can rolled out to a broader number. If it doesn't work, we can kill it and no problem. So again, all this is about bringing information a plan, how we could do it. We

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don't have to do it. Thanks. A call for the vote. All those in favor. >> Mr. Frisch Miss Mayor and Mister Moon Mystics and Mister Dunne, Mister Dan and Dr.

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Anderson, Miss St. John-Cunning and myself. All those opposed. Ms. Lady, all those abstaining. Miss Anderson motion passes.

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>> Call on Mister Dunne for a motion. >> And that could bring up the

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next motion. 5, 4, 5, I moved the Fairfax County School board to direct the superintendent to deliver report by December 10th 2026. On the technical and operational feasibility of

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allowing elementary middle and high school students with a documented medical or developmental need to opt out of the use of Fcps issued laptops and tablets for instructional purposes. Their

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second second, Mr, which I speak. Your motion. Not every student has a 5, a for fun.

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Every student an IEP that's costly time intensive. and there's just a larger number of students. ADHD or other

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conditions where having access to electronic devices makes there physical health, their anxiety, other issues

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demonstrably worse. And in these instances, electronic devices are not serving 2 further their education, which is a very mission of fcps. Instead, it's working to their

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detriment and it may indeed end up making them feel less interest in school for interested in having greater access 2 websites and content that that they shouldn't have

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access to. So this is intended to provide a pathway by which students have a documented medical need condition, kind of pain relief. And get the

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proper education and support they need from Fcps. world-class education. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Moon. >> Nothing much to it. Okay.

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Ms. Lady. >> Thank As I shared with the motion maker for earlier this week, this is already in

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place. And 5 for doesn't cost any money. >> You have documentation of ADHD of documentation of vision, the of documentation of whatever. It comes to

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screening committee and the Final 4 is put in place. That is the medical documentation. The reason I don't like this motion is because I don't think we can to find medical

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documented medical. I don't I don't want kids bring a doctor's note from attrition of this as Robin can have a lot top. And there's no really justification for that. Like

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there is that. This party is done with Fidelity. And I don't even understand what the need of the motion is because there's a process to do this appropriately. Throughout my

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entire career. It's been done and there are times when people come to you and ask. This is an issue and then we as the people who were in charge of student services

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say, well, this sounds like an appropriate. You referral for to local screening free. They're testing were for 5 before. Doesn't cost people

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anything. So I just think this story organically in place for fidelity. And for that reason, I can support the motion because it's already in place. >> A call for the vote. All

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those in favor. This mirror and Mr. Freshness, Mayor and Mister Moon, Mister Dan and Mr. Dunne Mr. Dan and Doctor Anderson. All those opposed.

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Miss Anderson. Ms. Lady and myself, any abstentions. Abstentions are mistakes that

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and Miss St. John-Cunning. The clerk read the vote. >> We're at 6, 3, 2. The

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motion carries. Thank you. Calling Ms. Lady for a motion. This is a motion 6.

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>> I move that the Ferris School board directed superintendent to amend all student device regulations including relations. 26 to one student rights responsibilities booklet and

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26 0, 2, p acts of. For rich students may be disappointed to severe disciplinary procedures interventions for him but studious and personal electronic communication computing devices, including but not limited to personal

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laptops, tablets, smart watches smart phones during the instructional day requiring the exclusive use of that just issued devices for school-related official activities. This prohibitions will not be applicable to

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students with him. Individual education program or section 504, plan that's closely mandates or permits. The use not fcps issued personalizes unnecessary combination. Additionally, school

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principals or their designee retain the authority to grant limited course specific exemptions for students enrolled classes at which the quicker requires acknowledging tools or software. Now available on sheriff's decision devices. there a

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second second? >> Ms. Lady like Speaker emotion. >> So, you know, speaking of whitelist and blacklist, but

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more that we. As we got tied with Chromebooks. in prohibiting certain websites, we saw a rise released. We did certainly and dranesville. So

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I rise and its students bringing their own devices. So and full disclosure. This claim clearly from likely high school in Cooper, Middle School. The principal's there, and then touch base and one of

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the principals around the fact this probation would be great because they can't control what kids are doing that for some advice there so far was no way to control it. And

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we've got to stop it because we're doing our best. We were here till, you know, one 30 in the morning trying to control technology, enhanced for kids. I think too many of our pairs

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understand that when their kid brings it their own personal advice, what that means that there are a lot of at school. So I think it's pretty clear cut to me. But this will help

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all of our principles will help of our teachers to control. Gets. And again, we go back to the past. We just passed earlier to create a way

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to store the Fcps issued devices. That doesn't the dress personal devices. So I think it's pretty clear cut. >> Thank you, Doctor Anderson.

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No, I think what's covered, Mr. Denton. Sorry today. I appreciate this innate. I heard you both talk about this one point in

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>> Mr. Dannan: Clearly a lot of passion that went into this. Appreciate that. I just want to ask it for the motion makers perhaps for I see you're staff. Does in cases where a parent wants a device

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that is more restrictive in your view, reading this is that accommodate that? So if I if I want a device, that is why listed perhaps it might make a by the city. Is going

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to be permissible under >> I think this motion indicates that any device

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brought from home. Other than for an IEP or 504, plan that explicitly mandates or permits the use. Would not be allowed.

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>> And read the last paragraph to to understand to 5th, you know, there may be exceptions for his child doesn't. I'm here at 504, but the parents don't want a more restrictive device. If there's a way to

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why accommodate that through this. >> It looks like, for course, specific exemptions. Where the curriculum requires technology's tools or

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software, not available. So I don't. And your example of a parent wanting a more restrictive device I'm trying when hear 5 before it I think

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that's your word. >> I want to maybe as we as we it seems reading the room that there's a general trend away from using devices for classroom site. So I think this might end event. become a more of a moot point. But the

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hope being that, you know, I'm a student to school every day 3 out of 8 of their classes rely on a laptop. I don't want them to be on device that's going to be distracting them.

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And I feel like my personal devices going to provide, you know, better. For that. Is that still? I guess it would work with their principal to get that kind of exception

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sofa and the course Pacific. His mission there. And if not, we can revisit this perhaps in August. But it's gonna make sure

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>> I think the 2 exceptions that I see and we looked at this was if you had an IEP or 504. And if a parent. Felt like this security was needed,

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maybe that would somehow match into a 504, in some way. I'm not sure or course specific exemptions whereby the Chromebook maybe didn't provide the level of schools

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are software available. don't see out for just. In on IEP non-fatal for non force required personal device in I think you could write

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something into it, but I don't see it as it's written. Okay. >> Pressure will follow up at August meeting interest of Time. Thank Thank you. I happy

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to support this. In fact, one of the primary reasons is. >> You know, I've heard from educators who very much appreciate the cell phone ban

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and then MacBooks started showing up in the classroom and students are using the iPhone basically interface on their laptops, circumvent the

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cell phone ban. And so that's one of the reasons in addition to the reasons articulated by the motion maker and sponsor sponsor and second or some

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happy to support it would welcome the further conversation that Mr. Denton is mentioning. Thank you, Mr. Moon. >> Mr. Moon: And just one

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question for make sure he's prohibited. 2 students from bringing their own devices from cool. Do we have ICE? Is

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the school system wide? Everyone? To >> Currently today, we do because we do provide everyone

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a device. Okay. I'm just, know, going back few years ago, I guess you might have gotten one funding to provide them like Macy's. We basically supplement. resources with a

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home devices. So again, when we didn't need to spend additional The for devices, we No students were able to bring

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the voices. You know, we did. Put the money into buying unnecessary places with this. We may be forced to maintain.

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At Denver. It certainly could be one outcome. >> OK, I'm gonna call for the

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vote. All those in favor. >> Miss Anderson, Mr. Frisch Erin Mystics, Mr. Dunne, Mr. Kan Doctor, a nurse and the St. John-Cunning, Ms. Lady and myself, all those opposed.

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>> All those abstaining, Mr. Men motion passes. Okay. calling Ms. Lady for a motions

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motions. 7. >> Through the first case, school board directed superintendent to direct the Educational Technology Review Committee to Priortize evaluating plant implement network level filters to block

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direct student access to the YouTube platform. Including your 2 website and mobile applications for all students in Pre-K through 8th grade will utilize and school networks wraps up issue

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devices while providing instructional YouTube content that is directly invented by teacher within an educational

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platform. Presentation tool or learning management system. >> Is there a second?

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>> So it is T I went to a think tank of leaders. Talked to a couple of chief technology slash chief innovation officers from other states. And asked them about

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to values because I've heard from a lot of people for that and the parents, potential technology around the pop-up ads. And figure out if there's a way to prohibit that. So what I learned was this was

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something it was put in place in other school systems where? >> If a teacher in beds a link within like a presentation like hand up. It's literally

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like doesn't allow the pop events to occur. It prohibits teachers from U.S. e-mailing links and makes them in my

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opinion. Use it for a much more restrictive purpose. That's purely instructional. If you really need to know why it's embedded in why it's part of your structure wanted

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learning because it needs to be some sort of formal presentation. So I welcome the Education Review Technology and Technology Review Committee to look more deeply

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at this. But I feel pretty strongly about the fact that I think it's going to make a lot of people happy in terms of eliminating the ads, but also still allowing teachers to use

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you too, to enhance their instruction based on clips that they find it a finger appropriate for for their learners. >> Ms. Dixit. No. I agree with

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what Misty said. Thank Miss Anderson. Just really fast. I would like to say thank you to the the Bringer of the motion.

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Adjusting the language just to give us some time to find more information. I wholeheartedly in support of the idea behind it. I just want to make sure. We're not going to end in a procurement issue where we

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have to get a different tool some way to make this possible, at least without knowing. So I appreciate it. >> Mr. Dannan: Just repeat

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again. I'm sorry. Mister Sethi, the 6 part of the this motion that talks about implement network level filters to block soon. Next.

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Are there other ways to to basically block directs to next St to resist Term, unnecessary limiting? And developing this plan. >> What I'm guessing in

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hitting the conversation is that light sweet crude that has a technology called smart you, which basically is similar to what this means described. Which was on board,

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met to implement on light speed and has the question that comes up is the same as the likeliest right. teachers would have to carry that live stuff to YouTube videos to put

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in there so that we can make sure that once the conduct each approves can make to the students and then everything else gets a lot. So the discovery in this is going to be similar to the like list

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like this conversation to say it. What is the unit was soft content needs to be approved. Once we do the and what was that content, then the tools should be able to handle most

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of the work. >> Thank you very much. And again, I it's were saying this is that this is a lot of work, some of loot earlier tonight. This is masking a lot of you in the next few months. And so

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we do appreciated. It's it's difficult because there's a lot of this is unprecedented, right? is others have looted to think we can to the staff, Lee and so forth. We get this

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right and not to be back in 6 months and fixing it. So again. Thank you all for your work and making the most makers for for bringing this. I was. As most exciting thing, seeing the scum upon the the agenda. thank

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>> I will call for a vote. All those in favor. Sanderson, Mr. Freshman Spirit, Mister Moon Ms. Dixit Mister Dunne, Mister Danon Doctor. Anderson, the

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St. John-Cunning. And Ms. Lady myself, that unanimous. Action item. 7.0 8 middle school

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configuration motion. I call him Mr. Done for a motion. >> I move that the Fairfax County School board directed

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superintendent to evaluate best practices from in a school configurations either. Great 78 for 68. Establish a standard fcps configuration from schools and identify

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near-term and long-term opportunities. She transition particular middle schools to the recommended configuration in order to promote academic achievement, reduce overcrowding in elementary

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schools, ensure effective capacity utilization and support the complex Mont a strategic plan objectives. So

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in 1990, almost 40 years ago, the Fairfax County School board approved a pilot program to shift 6th graders and middle schools starting with Glasgow homes and Poe. But in

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1991, the school board voted to in 1981 discord. Vote to expand the 68 middle school configuration and to the entire division. So the the

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intention on school should be 6 through 8. However, due to subsequent funding constraints, facility limits and overcrowding in Elementary vs, hey, middle school feeder patterns. The division-wide

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rollout was stalled, leaving Glasgow homes info as the only middle schools in Fcps with the 6 through 8 configuration. Now, what's very interesting is if you look at every surrounding school division,

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northern Virginia, they're all 6 through 8. To my knowledge. And and so we're a bit of an outlier in having the 7, 3, The very first meeting of the

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comprehensive school boundary view was Glasgow and the chance from the crowd were end. The experiment and the experiment. They didn't want to be the outliers anymore.

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Either ship them back to 7th rate for make other middle schools. Also 6, 3, 8, So the difficulties that come from making boundary adjustments between some elementary schools that are K through 5

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in some their K through 6 and the company schools are complementary for that aren't as difficult as we have found for the comprehensive boundary review. Superintendent has

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also spoken at length over the past couple years about her vision. And our first reference for 6 through 8 middle schools to make getting that accurately victory. Why?

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Why do you have that for France? >> I think that anytime you have a building where the student population turns over

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by 50% every year. It's really difficult to build community and a really pivotal time in young person's that early

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adolescence. I also 4, again, advanced math courses. We're 6 grade is in middle school. It's much easier to accommodate. I think for

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science labs, the arts when and performing arts options. CTE options. You just 6 graders have the opportunity to really. More robust

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curriculum. That might be more developmentally appropriate. So I just think for a variety of reasons it makes a lot of sense. We also have a lot of

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>> families. >> As you know, we have over 13,000 military connected youth very often when families transfer in and out. The idea that they have to go back to elementary school when they've

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been very excited to go to middle school river. They've sometimes is, you know, it's also challenging because it's we are an outlier to have 7, 8, schools. Thank you. So I

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just want to break down the motion. It's it's pretty straightforward. First part is evaluate best practices. I think the fact that for the only one Virginia that is 7,

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3, 8, speaks for itself. But we do want to look nationwide. And I think there have been recent phase as recently as 2022. So have to do a lot of original research. Second

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part, establish a standard at CBS configuration. Do we prefer 6th through 8th? We prefer 7th rate. We should have one configuration for middle school. Not counting secondary schools because that's a whole different

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beast. Finally identified near-term and long-term opportunities. I think of this as it can be a 20 year plan. We don't need the transition

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next year or in 6 months, but there are some middle schools today that are below 85% capacity. And so you can imagine that the superintendent develop a plan

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say in the next 5 years we're going to look to transition, you know, X, Y and Z middle School to a 6 to 8 miles full and that will unable greater

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accomplishment of strategic plan objectives and other things that the superintendents mentioned. There are other middle schools that are overcrowded. And and they just don't have the

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space. And so for those, it can be a long-term priority. But the whole point is we were we've been in this situation for a long time. Just for one moment. We've been the

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situation for a long time and it's not intentional. Have some 7th range from 6 to 8. We've tackled hard challenges like conference about your view on this board. And this is one thing out there that

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needs to be resolved, needs to be addressed. It can be addressed to reach 20 years, but we should have a plan so we can work against that over many years. Thank Dr. Anderson.

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>> Dr. Anderson: I don't know if Ms a fresh and this man have ever heard me talk about this before. So it's a brand new information. I'm not even going to take a whole lot of

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time to talk about this because I've spoken about this before, years and years and years, even getting to the doorstep of activity only to have it not happen. Doctor Reed, I appreciate the things

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that you've just shared regarding the benefits of having a 6th graders at the middle school as a teacher as

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a principal, I worked in middle schools that were 7, 8, I've worked in middle schools that were 6.70, work in elementary schools that work a 5 and those that are K 6. And

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what I said then is also what I will say now in terms of this concept, Glasgow porn homes. I'm not married to the configuration. We just all

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have to be in the same place. So we just stop making these particularly these particular exceptions for the 6th grade in the middle as was notified earlier with doctor for said

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we didn't forget 6th grade in the middle because we so often did. I sent to Doctor Reed just last Friday that very

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listing of schools. I just went through the cip. Of Middle schools. That actually have that room because some of them are in the low 70's. 72

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to 71% again. This is just pulling it from the cip. There's no story behind it. But it's a start because we do have some space where there is room. Well, we could begin

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this conversation and I'm hoping not 20 years. But I also know it's not going to be everybody all ones in the next 3 years. So there are opportunities that we could

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potentially capture in order to start moving that train. All of the benefits that you've just shared. Doctor, Ephraim community, the

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academic opportunities, too. All of the things that you just said so eloquently. Also the very reasons why I do not want to my part to add a 6th grade in order to go to key

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and then go to Lewis. I have to make that connection here because it matters. So weak.

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Thank you, Mr. Fresh. >> So the research that I've looked at. Pete's 2 pictures. And then there's a few

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complicating factors. One. The research about the benefits of 6th grade being in elementary is a maturity question. And the research that advocates

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for a 6, 7, 8 configuration for middle school talks about academic and instructional continuity and advancement. also talks about hastening maturity. So there are plenty

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of benefits to a 6, 7, 8, configuration. And I presume that whatever we get back from the superintendent, a point in

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that direction and I am. 100% bought in on the idea of transitioning the school division to 6, 7, 8, presuming that's where the professional guidance lands us as well, at

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least as part of the conversation. Mr. Dunn's Point about a 20 cycle. I think that's accurate. Because so many different pieces have to

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be looked at and aligned from the Cip and the renovation. Que Questions about boundary reviews program placement. You

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name it. There's a bunch of different things that are all moving pieces and to make it move more quickly. They're going to be equity tradeoffs in this conversation because

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the equitable approach may not be the swiftest approach to adopting the full transition of the entire school division. Unfortunately. But that's the

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trade-off of and perhaps optimal make for our middle schools, too, to every middle school Fairfax County, so I look forward to seeing the

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report. Did I see a timeline here? Yes, you can guess if

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>> not a timeline in here. There's a lot of their defeat, It's literally the same people that are responsible for every move yet tonight provide flexibility I I welcome your thoughtful consideration and

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whatever timeline that takes within reason. I appreciate it. Thank This Anderson. >> generally supportive and

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this I like the idea of looking at it holistically in terms of what's our timeline coming down the road? My concern has always been is

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that well, talk a lot about the middle school configuration. That is not the only unique school setup that we have and we have 3 secondary schools that I do not want 6th graders in with

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seniors. Just don't I live 7th grade with seniors. I went to one of our secondary schools unless we can renovate or school so that we actually put the firewall between the middle school and high school

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the way that we actually should in the way other counties do that for their middle schools and high school condos. I absolutely wholeheartedly agree that we still need a secondary model

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partially because we still have the busing issue out of Clifton and that off almost all my constituents. And so we one bus pickup for 6th grades

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is awesome and we don't have problems on the buses we've done, you know, lots of research related to that. What the other thing that I would say here is that if we're going to do this and we have a

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plan over time and we have to actually get rid of the split feeders because you have to have a clean pattern on how the kids are moving up. If you have some space in some

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schools in and not in others because it can't be that it's not likely going to be that all in one region is gonna be able moved to this. At the same time we're going to look for where we have again, low

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hanging fruit in terms of space and then we're going to look for renovation because I have one middle school. They can take this tomorrow. I have another that's at 100 13% capacity. And there's no world

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that it could happen. And so we've got to figure that out. And the other thing that I love about this is it does give us more room potentially for Pre-K. So I love the idea

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of having having space for the littles. >> I will call for all in favor.

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>> Miss Anderson, Mister Frisch, Miss Mayor and Mister Moon Mistick said Mister Mr. Dunne, Mister Danon Doctor Anderson, the St. John-Cunning, Ms. Lady myself, that unanimous. Action are some 0, 0, 9, motion on

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boundary study review. I call him Mister Dunne. Without objection to side will be postponed until August 27th

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2026. It was postponed. Actually. I'm 7.1 0 federally identified schools, CSI

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calling, Mr. Moon for Motion. Mr. Question. trying to find

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and the script. >> I move that the school did he view the CSI schools? But it either score support plans

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and shows up 8 assurances page for each school in the case to date view school doubled units.

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>> Is there a second? I second sticks with that with the second Mr. Mooney. >> Mr. Moon: I ask you

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particular agenda item to be. I moved from the consent agenda. Kuz. I knew I wanted to have public to hear from superintendent when someone

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enters about what the season about. We have a full scores. identify CSI schools. and the news. And what we do. We

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especially. When the boy He stated that, you know, one of the reasons one of the reasons for a school to be identified could be. Because up ocean

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bottom 5%. The title once crews I understand. I how that has happened to 1, 1, 1, a lot of schools don't seem to be

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foresees. I squeeze CPS. >> Yes, sir. And actually, the good news is we have fewer CSI schools this year than we've previously had said designation that I'm going to

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ask this from to review as the Office of School Supt reports up to our chief of schools MS Roman. So Roman. >> Great. The CSI designation

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is a three-year designation. >> For our >> high schools, they're 2 different designations that really impact us. The graduation rate if it's below

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a threshold 67% that triggered a CSI status, which is a three-year stay at status. And then for low performance. that

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is, again, a three-year designation. Schools will develop support plans. The schools are able to. apply for grant funding in order to get additional resources and support to support their

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improvement and the exit criteria is that for CSI that schools make academic progress in the areas that are

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identified within 3 years and then that they're not re identified at the end of 3 years on that new criteria. And then for high schools for on-time graduations. The exit is that they need to hit 67%

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for the graduation rate. One thing that's important to note is for all or alternative high schools which were identified. This was the first year where the state did shift that from

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previously having alternative accreditation plans for schools. And so our alternative high schools are on the same identification status as all of our high

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schools in the state. >> So to summarize that the 3 of the schools. >> That are on for graduation.

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>> It's because the criteria. Previously used is no longer available to be used because the alternative school in each case criteria used to be

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mapped to alternative school. Graduation rates. >> We were so humble. Want anyone school identified to

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CSI He could comment on that. Yes, sir. This woman. >> Herndon Elementary School is identified as a CSI school for low performance. And so they're setting goals for and

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their 3 year plan to support improvement in reading as well as in math. And in order to again exit that status still need to demonstrate growth over the next 3 years. And

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then every cycle they will identify the state will identify the lowest-performing 5% of title one schools and then we'll do a new designation after 3 years. Okay. Thank you.

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>> Mystics and you won't speak your second. Not that. Okay. >> calling for the vote all in favor. >> Yes, Anderson, Mr.

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Freshness, Mirren, Mister Moon, mistakes that Mister Dunne, Mister Tannin, Anderson, the St. John-Cunning misleading myself. That unanimous.

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>> Consent agenda are doctor rules. A parliamentary procedure. Robert's rules provide for a consent agenda listing several eyes for approval of the board by single motion. Many items listed have gone through board review in documentation has been provided to all board

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members and the public in advance item items may be removed from the consent agenda at the request. Any member prior to the meeting, the consent agenda items are on the screen. Is there any objection to approving the

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consent agenda hearing and seeing no objection. The consent agenda is approved. Item 9 new business. The following our new business agenda items. There will be a vote on these items. There

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will not be a vote on these items this evening. The action schedule future board meeting item 10 Superintendent matters.

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>> Well, well, well. >> I just wish the board a restful and joyful recess. Other than that, I think I'll

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save my remarks as it's one 53 in almost 2 o'clock this morning. >> Thank you. Item 11 Ford matters and of course, the for consensus to the late hour. We will skip Ford matters this

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evening. This meeting is adjourned as of one. 53 am.

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welcome to the second public hearing on the Skyview high school boundaries on behalf of the entire school board. I would like to thank you for Shooting a comment with us this year is be ing is

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student loan. You're muted. >> Sure. you can go ahead and

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talk. >> Good evening. My name an arm and its creators pay student of Ocular middle school in resident at the boulevards at Westfield's

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Community. I knew today express my concern first things owning from to Westfield. Many my neighbors already spoken about student safety. would like to share her changes affect us emotionally and

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psychologically. Our just spite his building friendships, classmates. ball is expected attend the same high school together separated. Now, just as and

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for this major transition, deeply unsettled starting over at a new high school at this stage of our lives will be emotional difficult for many people making new friends is

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not as you see in high school New Orleans My father who's in it would be even more difficult to build new relationships. A new sport 7

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change like this could make it harder for them to feel comfortable supported and confident. Right now, only

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about 8 tents. She was a different race from our from neighborhood are attending. Shipley has full. But this proposed rezoning that's small comfort with it. News break.

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Even for country from we would lose it chance to stay connected with her friends from now community and the relationship you're over the years will become much harder to make it high scores of

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critical time for success and personal. familiar friends and a strong support system. students feel confident included and be ready to succeed. But our neighborhood

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at this stage think weight, that sense of belonging. I respectfully ask the school board to reconsider this proposal. keep our neighborhood together. Thank you for listening for continuing the most is

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students will be directly for 5th.

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>> Student too. Student who you are muted. You go.

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>> Good evening, doctor Fried misses Seema dixit school board members and fcps staff. My name is the 10:00AM a student who lives in the boulevards at Westfield. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to speak. I'm

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asking you to please keep Chantilly. High school as are assigned high school for our community. This decision directly effects students like me, our families walked by and

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drove the proposed routes to Westfield High School. The routes include major intersections route. 28 and highway ramps. When I saw an experience for out, I did not

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feel safe. Students may need to travel this route at every day for school. I forts and after-school programs. Some students will eventually be

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new drivers and others may walk or bike. We should not have to feel worried and safe while traveling to and from school. If our community is

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assigned to Westfield High School, many of us have they have no practical option except to depend on the school bus every day for the next 4

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years. That would limit our ability to walk or bike safely and could make sure for Taishan more difficult for after school activities,

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sports clubs and late events. Current route to Chantilly, High School has more year. Practical and say for it for

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our community. It also allows students to continue what their friends, teachers, activities and school support system. Many families from our

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community attended the public hearing and shared the same concerns. We hope our voices are not only heard and understood but also addressed in the final decision. Thank

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you for listening and considering this safety of students like me.

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>> Show you how long? inning. My name is joy. I'm a resident has don't book at Westfield.

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You have already heard from my neighbors from Boulevard at Westfield about the safety. So I wouldn't repeat on that part. I respectfully ask the board to reconsider our committee assignment back to

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rookie around middle and Chantilly high today. I'm going to talk a little bit more around students safety from a different perspective well as constancy in decision.

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So each one of you should have the updated map in your hand. And during Monday's hearing, we appreciate it hearing that there may alternative

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neighborhood route that avoid portions route. 28, which took not a careful look at the routes afterward. While these alternatives may avoid some

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highly rams, they do not provide students with transportation environment comparable to the existing local child to rocky around and Chantilly high. The route to rocky around in Chantilly,

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Foles a continuous neighborhood trail system for nearly the entire trip. It is direct connected and specifically designed to

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support biking by contrast, the alternative route to still middle and westview high. It's longer that's direct request student who transition repeatedly between fragmented

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trail segments and local streets even after avoiding route. 28 students to encounter a more complex transportation environment and a noticeable a longer commute.

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The crash data from the DOT shows that the overall cardinals sort serving the proposed assignment contain significantly more locations was injury and fatal crash

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history. Then the existing trail to rocky around and Chantilly. Moreover, if you look at our neighboring community, which is literally in a sings situation as ours,

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they have been resigned back to strike. You're out Chantilly. We bows kind of share the same role. We are

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back to back. So please.

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Ticket Johnny. But the good

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>> Sundin America. John. >> Good My name is some. They're not going And then it has with Thank you for giving

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us the opportunity to speak. We also want to Seema Dixit sober a And the FCC is team

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but meeting with us on a community and listening to it. Concerns. Second of. What the

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safety concerns that that exposed? The other speakers? Those data, it enforces so concerned that the proposed

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present a high of 50 this. We are not opposed to. Let's feed, but we are definitely.

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Busting. That safety of the of Florida students big but added 11 balancing numbers. I don't

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87 host that have signed the petition. Just quickly the school board better face student safety before the

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final vote. decision? It's made and eating Chad Lee High school has same high school. Thank you for your time.

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Comes. >> could change.

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>> Hello, my name is Erika Chang and the current Fcps parent and math teacher residing in the Sully District, my children's current and projected high school zoning as Westfield High School even after the proposed boundary adjustments.

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I originally signed up to speak to provide my concerns regarding the impact on access to programming due to projected 25% drop in enrollment for Westfield High School. As was listed. The

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materials published on July 9th by Fcps an email to affected community members. However, the numbers in the updated presentation posted a board docs around 02:00PM today seem to obscure this

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reality. For example, the projected membership for the 26 27 school year across all of the listed high schools including Skyview on Sky 5.13, should increase across all

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schools of 515 students from this past year with a drop in enrollment at Westfield. Only 24 students. I urge you to closely examine the enrollment

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numbers presented. They seem intended to placate the extremely valid concerns of Westfield Community members. As pointed out by speaker on Monday night. The decline in enrollment at Westfield will have a dramatic impact on

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staffing and course offerings this past year. There was a 2 to one discrepancy in Advanced Placement, higher math and computer science courses, sections between Chantilly and

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Westfield. Despite a head count difference of only 163 students. I have a rising 6 grader. This met all of the required and recommended benchmarks to take out for one in 6th grade. And she is

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excited for the challenge. I do not know what her high school math course offerings at Westfield High School will look like after 10th grade. Westfield is not currently offer any math courses for

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college level credit be gone. AP calculus BC any pieces to sticks. If you are a current student, Chantilly or Fairfax, she would be able to take the lead or algebra and multivariable calculus

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additional to correct college credit. I simply do not understand how making trades expensive future West. Will students, Wilson port goal number 3, a strategic plan to allow my child to meet for 68. I could expand or to achieve

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our highest academic

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>> So end of the pool. >> Good evening. Members of the school board and to mine

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initiate them and put a sudden to Fairfax County speaking on behalf of Joplin Village community representing approximately 100 homes that are fired up that often. hey,

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joy. I'm here respectfully ask for a from constitutional community's concerns and to keep it in public assigned to the cut in schools and not to be a sign of community to a new middle and high schools for us. This proposal would

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place on the city economic burden on the only 100 families and rocking village. Many homeowners butch's that home snowing. They were assigned to Jay High School

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community has already faced challenges with home values due to the perception of Brookfield Elementary School, losing access to middle and high schools would make our neighborhood even less

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attractive to future potentially property values. Families forced for education opportunities could be forced to sew for less one facing today's much higher and

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inflated housing crisis, making it even more difficult. And this change fees, a CDA safety-conscious shocking high school is within walking distance from any students.

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Students with. We have to bite through about 28 1 of the busiest shorten along with 7 in major intersections. This increases the risk to our

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children. The city assignment. What could be long commute, heavy traffic and more difficult today. Top offs and pickups for. Working families.

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And also Shaun King High School gives us major opportunities to do high 11. Matt course us useful in college, which out kits will be missing out the book for

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the Ask, Why is our community being has to bear this burden along with the low income communities around us, which not wise. If this proposal is intended to strengthen our schools and communities, how

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does moving nearly 100 rock in families a view from on established neighborhood high schools accomplish that goal?

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>> Please hear us.

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>> Joy, Joy. For the Bush are >> Good evening, everyone.

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This is free eyes. most of my neighbors. Kind of covered everything. My main concern. I am a mother of 4 kids. Currently 2 of my voice goes

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to shun Tony High. I have 2 girls that are going and within a year 2 years, both of them are attending Chantilly High. My major concern. They

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basically covered most of my concern as what they talked about. It already and safety. I have 2 girls that they going to be going to to shun tele.

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They're supposed to be going to shun Tony High school, which is very close to home. I have a job in Virginia. My second job base in Maryland sometime I don't make it a

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home and be they. I don't make it on time to get to home to I pick him up off to school. My kids are in a lot of

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activities. I'm just very concerned for them to be walking or biking Westfield to get to home. So definitely

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major concern is safety. I I don't know. My other question is that already attending high school? And then my other 2. So I'm I'm separating my 2

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cars from the 2 boys it's just that having a peace of mind having all 4 of my kids and the same high school would my major concern. I really appreciate if I could keep my

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kids in the same high school together and close to home been causing major highways to get home. I think the top.

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That's all I can say safety. Please concern our safety. Our kids safety crossing there, major highway specially hi, we 28. I'm scared it right there.

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Can you imagine, Mike? It's costing at Highway getting home after school.

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>> Stick that. That was our last speaker. >> Thank you for sharing your comments today. If you wish to provide any feedback to the board before board art, some majors and copies of your

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testimony provided to date. Please do so by sending your comments to community participation at FCPS DOT Edu, the school board consider this

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issue later tonight as a part regular meeting, this public hearing for the Fairfax County school John, as off 07:00PM.

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Thank you. Mr. McDaniel. >> Tech needs about 5 minutes for transition 5 minutes.

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