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>> The time is 07:00:09PM, on in this January. 8th 2026 regular meeting of the Fairfax County School board will now come to order. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by a moment of silence and a performance of
the national anthem by Herndon. High School Guitar for Ensemble under the direction of Christopher
Cunningham. I pledge
allegiance to the flag.
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student? Please. >> Agenda item. 3.0 2 announcements, Mr. McDaniel, I'm sorry, Mr. McDaniel has
submitted request to attend tonight's meeting remotely due to personal reasons as he has a work travel conflict and is located in Houston, Texas. All those in favor of approving
Mr. McDaniels request. Mr. Fresh mayor and Mr. McElveen. Saint John Canning. This lady Mystics it Mr. Dunn, Mr. Moon.
And myself. All those opposed Dr. Anderson, please state your objection. >> I will not approve virtual participation. For what reason
men. For point of order and not approve that, that that is not part of process. Mr. Foster, could you please explain which Virginia code we
need to follow in order to state the objection. >> Yes, Virginia code. Section 2. 0.2, Dash, 3, 7, 0, 8.3 requires that if there is a
vote to disapprove virtual participation that the reason be stated with specificity. >> Dr Anderson, like to
explain. know, I gave my rationale.
Jay Anderson order to take a recess to discuss this. We either need unanimous consent or approval by a majority. So if we can discuss this and have the board take a vote on whether they are whether allowing a recess.
>> So that we can have this discussed with General Division Council off the record, OK, with no objection? We're gonna go ahead and take a quick 5 minute. I object. Okay. Then we're going to go ahead and vote on whether or
not we're gonna be able to take a quick recess. All those in favor of taking a quick recess. >> Mr. Fresh Miss Saint John Counting. This lady Mystics it
and myself, all those opposed. McElveen, Mr. Dunn, Mr. Moon Dr Anderson. Well, the clerk, please read the vote.
>> The motion going to be 5, 5, the it fails. Okay. Thank you. Madam Clerk, at this point, Mr. Foster, what would you like us to do to move
forward? >> I believe the vote to Mr. McDaniel to participate virtually did pass if I saw count correctly. And so in light of that, I think my recommendation is that the
meeting proceed. Okay. Thank you. >> Mr. McDaniel, you please check your audio and video. And then thank you. Thank you
very much. On behalf of the school board, I would like to welcome Sarah Kelsey City of are city of Fairfax School board member and Kate Hanley, former appointed Providence
District School board member Providence District supervisor and the chair of Fairfax County Board of Supervisors. So if we can welcome them,
please. I would also like to recognize several ever student representatives in this year's student Leadership Program Development program who are attending tonight's meeting
and asked them to please stand. If you would like to review a copy of the meeting agenda, please see the back of
auditorium to obtain copies of any items are supporting materials being presented tonight. Please reference the QR code on the agenda or visit www that Fcps Edu Backslash
board docs. Tonight's meeting is being broadcast on channel 99 and live streamed on YouTube and are on our website at WWW DOT Fcps Dot Edu Backslash live Stream.
Tonight's meeting is also being broadcast in Spanish. Spanish on YouTube at YouTube Dot com Backslash at Fcps and Espanyol. Agenda item. 3.0 1
volunteer in Mentor Appreciation Week proclamation. I call on Miss Saint John coming for a proclamation.
>> Where asked Fairfax County Public Schools benefits from the dedication of many individuals who generously volunteered their time and talents in schools and at school-sponsored activities
and where asked every school relies on volunteers and mentors, both formal and informal partnerships, who in which the academic, cultural and extracurricular experience
of students, particularly through tutoring, mentoring and programs that strengthen family engagement. And whereas volunteer and Mentor Appreciation Week is a week on
observance dedicated to recognizing the exceptional support. And guidance provided volunteers and mentors who also highlight the ongoing
need to expanding mentoring opportunities to promote positive outcomes for all students. And whereas Fairfax County Public Schools honors the volunteers and mentors who
consistently show up for students demonstrate unwavering commitment and support their academic, social and emotional growth. And wear a mask sharing their
experiences offering encouragement and provide a trusted guidance mentors, help students and limitless possibilities. Fostering confidence, resilience and
curiosity and often plane transformative rules in the lives of young people. Now, therefore, be it resolved at the Fairfax County School Board board here by proclaims
January 5th through 9th as Fairfax County Public Schools volunteer and Mentor Appreciation Week and recognizes and honors the individual invaluable
contributions. Volunteers and mentors and encourages students. Staff. And the broader community to acknowledge and celebrate their service in strengthening
our schools and supporting student success. Is their second second. Thank you, Dr. Anderson, I would call for a vote. All those in favor. >> Mr. Freshness, mayor and
Mr. McElveen missing on cutting Lady Mystic's it Mr. Dunn, Mr. Moon Dr, Anderson, Mr. McDaniel and myself. That is unanimous for all board
members. Agenda item. 3.0 4 principles and administration in U.S.. Traders Appreciation Month proclamation icon Dr Anderson for a proclamation. As the observance of school
Principals and administrators month honors the leadership of elementary, middle and high school principals and administrators. >> And recognizes that their work is essential to student
success throughout Pre K to 12 education and beyond. And whereas principals and administrators work diligently to create a safe, inclusive
and productive learning environment that support the academic, the social emotional growth of all students while fostering positive school culture and strong
professional communities. And whereas principles fulfill multiple and complex roles serving as instructional leaders, supervisors of
teachers and learning community partners assessment and accountability. Experts, budget and resource managers facility and operational
leaders, public relation representatives and stewards of legal contractual and policy requirements. And whereas as the chief instructional leaders of their
schools, principles set a clear academic vision by establishing ambitious goals supporting high-quality instruction and forcing
academic rigor and maintaining high standards and expectations for every student while also so show and
emotional well-being of students and staff in building strong, trusting relationships with families with educators and with the broader school
community. And whereas throughout their commitment, perseverance and passion for public education, they're at the those these educational
leaders ensure that Fairfax County Public schools continues to prepare students to meet high academic standards. Lead healthy and ethical lives and become
responsible. Innovative global citizens now, therefore be it resolved that the Fairfax County school board here by proclaims January 2026. as
school principals and Administrators appreciation Month and recognizes vital role of school leaders and support personnel and ensuring
every child has access to a high-quality education. Is there a second? I second each and counting. I will call for a vote. All those in favor,
Mr. Freshness, Maren, Mr. McElveen Missy John, Cutting Lady. >> Mystic's it. Mr. Dunn, Mr. Moon Dr, Anderson, Mr. McDaniel and myself. That is
unanimous for all board members. Agenda item. 3.0 5 30th anniversary of the directly elected Fairfax County School Board proclamation icon, Mr. Fresh
for a proclamation. >> Thank you. We ask that past. And current school board members, please stand as your names. Our red, whereas the Fairfax County School board has long played a vital
interested role in guiding the mission policies and governance of Fairfax County, Public Schools and where is historically Fairfax County school board members were appointed until 1995. when
Fairfax County held its first election for school board members following a voter referendum in enabling legislation, thereby shifting from an appointed to an elected board structure. And
whereas the change established a more direct Democratic accountability between school board members and the families. Students, educators and communities. They serve.
And whereas over the past 3 decades, 53 elected Fairfax County school board members have guided transformative policies and curriculum equity school infrastructure, fiscal
stewardship and community engagement. And whereas this 30th anniversary of the board's direct election is an opportune moment to reflect on the enduring value of representative elect
educational governance and to honor these those who have served, including. Chris and
Mints and former chair in Virginia delegate from the District 1996 to 1999.
>> Doctor Ricardy Anderson, former share Mason District 2022 present.
>> She was Sandy Anderson speed for district one 2024 present. >> Kathy Beltre, former vice
Chair Springfield District, 2000 to 2007, her son, Doug and her daughter. Laura with tonight. Liz Brad Shear
Springfield District 2008 to 2011. >> Chris, from like Franconia
District 1996 to 2003. >> Michelle Berkner at large,
1996 to 2003. ISIS Castro, former Chair Mount Vernon District 2000 to 2003.
>> Brad Center, former vice-chair Franconia District 2004 through 11. Virginia
Delegate Laura Jane Cohen, Springfield, District 2020 to 2023. >> Karen Corbett, Sanders,
former Chair Mount Vernon District 2016 to 2023. >> Tammy Derenak Kaufax former
Chair Franconia District 2012 to 2023. >> Sima Dixit districts, 2024
to present. done number in district 2024. To present. Mr.
Her doctor Mark Emery, former chair at large, 1996 to 1999.
>> Sandy Evans, former Chair Mason District 2010 to 2019. >> Karl Frisch, former Chair
Providence District 2022. >> The lead rifle and March 1996 2, 2003, his wife, Roth
AZ with us tonight. >> Stu Gibson, former chair Hunter Mill District, 1996 to
2011. Ernestine hasty, former vice-chair Providence
District, 1996 to 2003. Tina Hone at large 2008 to 11. that
at large 2016 to 2017. >> Stephen Hunt and launched 2004 to 2007.
>> Pat Hynes Hunter Mill District 2012 to 19. Virginia delegate Karen Keys-gamarra
out large 2017 to 2023. >> Kaye Kory, former vice chair in Virginia Delegate
Mason District 1999 to 2009. >> Vice Chair Robin Lady Dranesville District 2024 to
present. Kyler County large 2024 to present. >> Ryan McElveen at large 2012
to 2019 2020 for the president. >> Megan McLaughlin, Braddock
District 2012 to 23. Melanie Mayor and former Vice Chair Hunter Mill District Twenty-twenty. The president.
>> And the young moon, former chair Braddock District, 1996 to 1999 at large 2004 to 1920.
24 to present. >> Film just the Eichner, former Chair Providence District 2004 to 2009. Janet,
all the sick at large 2004 to 2007. mission launched 2022 2023.
>> Supervisor Dalia Palchik Providence District 2016 to 2019. >> Virginia State Sen stand up
ask the former Chair Sully district 2022. 23. >> Jim Rainey at large 2008 to
11. Patty Reed, Providence District, 2009 to 15.
>> Gary, the Sully District, 1996 to 2003. Elizabeth Schultz, Springfield District,
2000, 12 to 19. Marcia Saint John Cunning Franconia District 2020 for the President.
>> Supervisor Russia Sizemore Heizer former chair at-large 2022. 2023 and Braddock
District 2024. To 25. >> Supervisor Kathy Smith, former Chair Sully District
2002 to 2015. >> Supervisor Dan Storck, former Chairman Front district 2004 to 2015.
>> The late Jamie Strauss, former chair Dranesville district 1996 to 2019. Elaine Tholen, former Chair
Dranesville District 2020 to 2023. >> Carter Thomas Springfield, District 1996 to 1999.
>> Reena Thompson March 2002, 2003. >> Ted Bell cough at large
2012 to 2015. The late Fred Ward Mason District. 1996 to 1999.
>> Testy Wilson, former vice chair Braddock District 2000 to 2011.
>> Tom Boson, Sully District 2016 to 2019. >> Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Fairfax County school board here by recognizes and celebrates the
generations of elected school board members past and present who have served for the benefit of our students. Staff. >> And >> and schools and encourages
Fairfax County residents to reflect on the importance of civic participation in school governance and to engage as partners in our shared mission of academic excellence, equity and opportunity. Is there a
second? Thank you, Mr. Moon. >> I will call for the vote. All those in favor, Mr. A fresh mayor and Mr. McElveen missing John cutting this lady
Mystic's it. Mister Dunne, Mister Moon, Dr, Anderson, Mr. McDaniel and myself. That is unanimous for all board members. Welcome to all of our colleagues who have served as
an elected as electives, a member of the school board. I invite all of those here to support the 30th anniversary of directly elected Fairfax County School Board proclamation to please join
the board for a photo in the
front of the diocese.
>> We now in by our principals, administrators and all those here in support of the principals and administrators Appreciation Month proclamation to please
join the board for a photo at
the front of the diocese.
We now invite our volunteers, mentors and all those here in support of the Fcps volunteer Mentor Appreciation Week proclamation to please join
the board for a photo at the
front of the diocese.
Anderson. That's our last
picture.
The >> Agenda item. 4.0 one community participation. The next order of business is community participation. We welcome all community members who are here and those who signed up to speak this
evening. Additional information about signing up to provide comments to this at a school board, regular meeting and or public hearing can be found at the school
board's web site at Www Dot Fcps Backslash school board. During the signup process. Community members acknowledged they were informed of the school board's expectations for respect in proper decorum.
When providing comments, these expectations are also available online. And with the printed agenda and meeting materials in the back of the room. We asked audience members to be pretty respectful of one another
shouting an outburst will not be tolerated. Please hold your applause until the conclusion of a speaker's remarks. Audience members may not join speakers at the podium and should remain in their seats, including when recording or
taking photos. We are grateful to those who have come to speak to us today. Thank you for your cooperation. School board members will be listening but not responding.
Madam Kurt Clerk, please call the first speaker.
Good evening. My name is may have oil and I'm in fcps paired of 2 children. >> A first grader and a second grader. I'm a software engineer and Deputy Dir at
American Association for the Advancement of Science and Cardi serving on its AI governance task force to date. I specifically want to address
the usage of Chatgpt Fcps. Using chatgpt in education context raises ethical concerns such as the potential for bias and a lack of transparency and
accountability in the aggregate and that are the basis of that model undermining academic integrity. Some academics are concerned that students can use to it such chatgpt to
misrepresent the assignments. But isn't concerns about plagiarism and creating a generation of decked uses as opposed to the DOE's creators are inventors. any air to a
chat gpt can make enters due to cutbacks to misunderstandings. nation's and technical difficulties. Additionally using chatgpt could raise concerns around
privacy of data was registering for this meeting. The former red that's because should not use personally identifiable information in connection with an individual student. Our school based
employee. However, Judge Epd can't be relied upon protecting private data. And B, I because it uses data that is input to inform to and
algorithms. It is important to ensure that based education to woods, I designed to be accessible, inclusive and effective for on notice.
Moreover, the deployment of such tools in schools should be done in collaboration, but Fcps families and stakeholders. Jason Guardrails creating a robust training program to educators and students using key performance
indicators to measure its success in the education system by ensuring privacy of students and teachers. For now, there are many challenges to overcome before Judge Ebd
should be integrated into our education system. Thank you.
Karen. Bradford. Last month, I asked you to consider why we let students while we wait to let students drive. One key reason is brain development,
specifically the frontal cortex. >> Students need time to develop judgment and reasoning. The same principle applies to math. Dr. Presidio can talk. Talk more to this. So in brief, all students must
take a finance class to graduate. And we wisely wait until at least their junior year when students take it too early, they lack the maturity and context. Understand it. In
math. We are asking elementary age students to push students into higher level courses, younger and younger, even though not all students are developmentally ready. Everyone is generally a 9th
grade level class. Dr Reid and Dr Presidio are now pushing this into elementary schools. It's like asking 6th graders to read at a high school level. Not all 6th graders ready for this. This push for
high school level math in elementary school is not from the vast central office. I do not hear match teachers are department chair supporting this acceleration science
teacher share the same concern as well. Stephen students need maturity before tackling higher level reasoning. We have asked for the data. urge the board to request it from
Pyramid. 5. They're out. Everyone has been prioritized in the 8th grade and students are suffering swell scores have declined and enrollment.
And after classes continue to rise, that data matters. It exists. My question for the board, Dr Reid and Dr Presidio is why are we doing this? Why
are we pushing students into deep mathematical reasoning when they're 12 13 year-old brings and even 11 are not developmentally ready to understand this. Another comparison that is telling the
number students completing out every one in middle school does not match the number students completing higher level BC calculus if Accelerate Jean worked probably those numbers would align. Instead we're seeing
burn out and student advancing without understanding. Thank
you. Leslie Houston. Leslie
Heat. Please play the video submitted by Stephanie
Lundquist, a >> It seems that your definition of excellence is actually mediocrity. It's 2025 report. The state of Virginia
gave 22 of Fairfax County Public Schools. The designation needs intensive support, meaning those schools received less than 65% in the state school performance and
support for a mark. This is an abysmal performance that Dr respond in a press release on December 9 to say makes Fcps a quote, world-class school division. I guess if you're standards are low, it's easy
to be content. But pretty packaging doesn't change numbers in reality in 2025, 21% CPS students field So
wells 84% field writing 25% field science. 22% feel math and 58% field history were performing worse every subject. The neighboring Loudoun County students. Then
your trust to say that none of our schools have lost accreditation yet. is embarrassing. The results show subpar performance for district with so many resources. And speaking of
resources, you allocate some too many things far outside the purview. A student's academic outcomes in August and November. You signed contracts with the law firm King Spalding agreeing to pay
their attorneys of 2 $1850 per hour in August September alone, you pay that single law firm nearly a million dollars given your exceedingly high
payments and legal fees. It's funny that your media office claims that he was essentially forfeiting the bathrooms and pronouns keys to, quote, Syndergaard public resources and save taxpayers thousands of dollars in legal fees and
costs. Wow. How generous of you to do that? The same month Division legal counsel John Foster signed a contract with King and Spalding agreeing to pay its lawyers nearly $2000
an hour, maybe a few focus spending on student outcomes rather than directing so many resources to district administrator salaries and lawyers. Students would
perform better. Please play the pre-recorded video by Laura Chapman. Hi, my name is
Jessica Kim and I am in Fcps parent. >> I want implore this group to respond to the call from parents on more transparency on how Jenny AI tool such as chatgpt for teachers is being
rolled out and utilize the process. EPS. I recognize that this is a very exciting time for society. And Jenny, it is a powerful tool that has the potential to change the way
whole industries operate, including education. However, the key word here is potential major industries even intact are still testing this technology to better understand its effort to see
optimal use cases and impacts to the problems they're trying to solve. So while the excitement is understandable, making these tools accessible without transparency on usage
guidelines. Safeguards on day to share and how the outputs will impact the way our children learn are deeply concerning for me. In addition, the main point of these tools is to make what
more easily obtainable. But I would argue that our children are still learning the how and the why. And they do not need shortcuts to get to the answer. OpenAI will another
check. Companies have a motivation to roll this technology out as broadly as possible to as many people as possible to gather the data that they need. So while
partnerships and no-cost options, all great, there's always a cost and value they're trying to recoup through these efforts as one of the largest school systems in the nation. We are certainly a very attractive
target for these companies. I'm asking the board to reconsider the fast release of Chechen PP for teachers and other Jenny, I pools in the classroom and instead consider what problem we are trying to
help teachers solve. We need to clearly define the governance controls that we need to have in place and we need more grounded research and data to show that having these tools accessible is
solving for the news of our students. Thank you. I
apologize. >> We had an issue with our walk-in registration so we should be calling on Sarah,
are the law. If she would like to speak. Hi and good evening.
School board members. I'm here as an lcps parent in support of the World Language Program and world in which education writ large in Fcps I represent a group, a group of parents at
multiple fcps schools. We're interested in seeing both improvements to an expansion of existing programs. Let's start with improvements. Almost 3 years ago we parents
spoke with Chief academic schools, officer and share with the superintendent and board number of recommendations. That was actually 14 pages long, which I've summarized in a document
that should have been placed by the clerk on your chairs in advance of this meeting. Since then, we've seen some improvement, but I would say more is needed and warranted. In terms of expansion with new
school boundaries. Now is the time to examine whether every parent has the immersion programs and programs in order strengthen fairness and equity across the board. is an
example are my daughter's elementary school wanted an program. only had enough budget for steam program. Steam is critical and in interest of access and equity, we shouldn't have to compete
for which subject matter gets which budget we're asking for. The creation of a parent advisory group or committee to discuss this with you more regularly because it's a shame
that we started this initiative. We got lots of good responses from board members and then it just kind of went quiet. So how can we work together with you in a constructive way so that we can continue this conversation
work together as parents and people who share a mission to advance the school. Thank you.
So the previous video is by Miss can't Jessica Candler Chapman registered for community participation but did not submit a video for tonight's me to Chair Anderson. That was our last public speaker.
>> Thank you. >> Agenda item, 5.0 one student representative matters and unfortunately misma Conan is not was not able. To attend tonight's meeting that we will
not have student Representative matters tonight. Agenda item, 6.0 1 action item certification, a closed meeting, compliance since the board needs to
return to the closed meeting towards the end of the regular meeting. We will return to the later today after we conclude conclude the closed meeting. Agenda item 6.0 2 action item.
Confirmation of action taken in closed meeting icon Dr
Anderson for a motion. I'm finding it. Sorry. >> I move to attendance at
school. Certain students identified including the closed meeting pursuant to Virginia Code Section. TWENTY-TWO 0.1, Dash 2, 5, 4 B, one. Is there a second thank you, Mr. Moon, all those
in favor this mayor and Mr. McElveen missing John cutting lady. Mr. Moon Dr Anderson and myself. All those abstaining.
Or I'm sorry, all those opposed. All those abstaining, Mr. Fresh. Mystic's that Mr. Dunn and Mr. McDaniel, will
the clerk please read the vote? 7, 0, for the motion carries. Thank you, Colin, Mr.
Fresh from Ocean. >> I move to expel the student who committed a serious offense in violation of school board policy by possessing a weapon on school property and injuring another student in
violation of the commonwealth's laws. >> Is there a second by second? Thank you. Miss engine coming. All those in favor, Mr. Fresh, Mr. Mair and Mr.
McElveen Saint John coming. This lady Mr. Dunn, Mr. Moon Dr Anderson and myself. All those opposed all those abstaining mystic's it Mr.
McDaniel. The clerk, please read the vote. 9, 0, to the motion carries. Thank you. I call on Miss Saint John coming from Ocean. >> I move to expel the student
who spent another student school. >> Is there a second second, Mr. Fresh. All those in favor. Mr. Fresh, Mr. McElveen.
Missing John cutting lady. Mr. Moon, Mr. Dunn Dr Anderson and myself. All those opposed all those abstaining, this mayor
Mystics at Mr. McDaniel. The clerk, please read the vote. 803. The motion carries. Thank you. I call him Mr. Fresh from Ocean.
>> I move that the school board authorize legal counsel to proceed with the submission of a further statement of facts on 1/9/2026. discussed in closed session according to
the terms and conditions discussed therein. Is there a second? Mr. Moves all those in favor.
>> Mr. Fresh, Mr. McElveen missing cutting misleading Mystics. It Mr. Mr. Moon, Mr. Dunn Dr Anderson and myself. All those opposed all those
abstaining. Mr. McDaniel. And Mr. Quick please read the vote. 9, 0, to the motion carries. Thank you. Agenda
item, 6.0 3 action item motion to rescind at the December 18th 2025 regular meeting the on an amendment to this motion results in a tie that's in accordance with the Code of
Virginia. Section 2, 2, Dash, 4.1, dash 7, 5, this entire action item was deferred to this meeting. Best. We need to consider the entire agenda item in at this meeting icon,
Mr. Mckelvie in for a motion. >> Thank you. Madam Chair. I move to rescind the decision taken by the school board at its meeting on December 4th 2025. to mend the structure of the comprehensive Planning and Development Committee and
Sunset the school board's facilities planning Advisory Council. So CP DCF Pack may continue to perform their central mission for Fcps. Is there a second? Mr. McCAbe,
would you like to speak your motion? So I've spoken to this motion at the previous 2 meetings. So I do not see a need to speak to it again, other than saying that I hope
my colleagues have reconsidered their their vote on December 4th to eliminate the facilities planning Advisory committee. It's
Essential Committee. It serves the purpose of devising this board and done so for more than a decade. Mr. De Andrade like speech or second briefly.
I just want to reiterate, I think any time we restrict. >> Are we eliminate opportunities for the public to contribute to the achievement of the important
and essential mission of Fcps. It's only the public, the community that ends up getting hurt and it only ends up the school board being less informed. only ends up our
operations being more costly, a sufficient less effective. >> Icahn Dr, Anderson, for an
amendment. I move to insert the phrase and to revert back to the previous language. I'm
sorry. I apologize. I move. I move insert the phrase and to revert back to the previous language in the city to governance manual policy. 17, 10 and the community Advisory Committee operating manual
after the phrase Council. Is there a second second, Mr. Dunn Dr, Anderson. And you'd like to speak, Chairman Mont. Yes, very briefly. I think I've said this the last time
we discuss this and I said the first time I have never been in a space where peoplare begging to let us help to let them help us for free. These
are individuals of high caliber. We have Chuck Fanshawe who 7 this committee who was hired by Fcps not once but twice to read the facilities office. Those are
the kind of caliber of individuals that come from that committee. I'm just stunned that we are not able to see their value and to leverage that to help support
fcps. Mr. Dunn, would you like to speak to your second? this is now the 3rd school board meeting where we have discussed the elimination of the
>> facilities playing advisory committee at a time when we have a 42 year renovation Q we have a half billion dollars in and infrastructure and deferred maintenance backlog.
And to date there has not been a single rationale advanced for the haste with which this is being done with the disrespect that's being shown to the community members who
served for many years on this committee and have contributed vital recommendations to improve how we manage our facilities, how we construct
and renovate our schools otherwise guide our facilities planning and management with expert. Industry, private sector and foot. Lacking that
rationale. I certainly we'll seek to have this motion approved tonight.
>> Thank you very much. Seeing no others. I would like to call for a vote for the amendment that is on the screen. All those in favor. This mayor and Mr. McElveen.
Mr. Dunn. Mr. Moon and Dr Anderson. All those opposed Mr. Fresh Misty John coming. This lady Mystic's it Mr.
McDaniel and myself with a clerk. Please read the vote.
5, 6, the motion fails. Thank you so much. We are now voting on the make and less. somebody that would like to speak to the main motion. Okay. Thank
you, Mr. McDaniel. >> Thank you. And this is the 3rd meeting hours later on this all be very brief. I want to clear on what this motion is not doing. It's not
removing public input. It's not removing innovation. It's not removing expert input into facility planning and processing it all. The stuff practice. So to make very
clear. What it's doing is is taking the function of pack, which is innovation, which is community input, which is expert guidance and advice is inserting that to a standing
board committee, the Comprehensive Planning and Development Committee and that's getting lost every time we discussed this. That key part is getting lost. Every time we discuss this so many, very clear about that.
Obviously for logistical purposes, we cannot have 2 separate bodies running 2 separate directions, talking about capital planning and facilities in our processes. This the other. So what this
restructuring of the function of that pack accomplishes in my opinion is it elevates their work from a citizen advisory committee that has no direct control over our staff
to a standing board committee where we do have direct control and a direct working relationship with our staff. It also increases transparency Pack is not video taped and recorded like are standing
board. Committee meetings are the CDC meeting for the function of pack will now sit. Those are recorded and streamed and put out for people to see exactly what is going on. When we talk about
how we can better plan, construction facilities. lastly, it's going to streamline the workflow. I had a chart up at the previous meeting, revote on this. What should a completely overhauled
streamline workflow? One of the biggest challenge is with the current structure. Is that workflow? How disjointed and confusing it is. So I really want to make sure that those points were out there in the public and that is considered
at our vote tonight. So thank you. This >> So a functional board will work to get to yes, I'm concerned that more and more
of this board's votes are being passed by failures at a tie. I-75 for 8 to 4. This shows that collaboration is not happening. I'm also
concerned that the focus of the work of this board is not progressing when it comes to our own approach to the work, a conversation about advisory committees is clearly needed. If this bill passes, it will
be the second advisory committee in the 2 years of this board. We should be talking about how to have input that residents are clamoring to give us such. As
for AI and technology. Missing coming. I want to reiterate. >> The fact that we are not
eliminating the engagement. That we are. Including engagement and it is just a different structure. We have to structure already in the
audit committee. It works. It's a fission and we still have the voice of the community. It disturbs me that
I consistently hear that we're eliminating the voice of the community. I have spoken to several of the members of and they were more concerned with the process by which this was
done and maybe we have lessons learned about moving forward and being more thoughtful. I refuse. Lee thanked members of pack and told them that we
appreciate their work and that we ask for them too, participate in C P D C. When explained audit committee to them and how it works, they
were satisfied. So I think we have to be honest about how we maybe dropped the ball and how we handle this and I will apologize for how we handled it. I will not apologize for the fact that we're doing this
work in a way that is trying to be more efficient and that is trying to ensure that we don't have committees going in different directions and doing different kinds of work. I
just want to make that very clear because I think there's been a lot of Ms. Communication about what's happening. And I have spoken
to some of members and Tampa, should them about what the intention is and that we do appreciate their work and we do value their work and we can. We hope to continue seeing them as members of CPD
see now and a more elevated level. I just want to make that very clear. Mr. Dunford,
go back. There's misinformation. The truth is a Frankenstein was created. >> And we don't even know how to make it work. The proposal
is to add 5 citizens to a school board committee and the instruction was to wait the votes of school board members as greater than citizens. But we didn't quite figure out how
to do that. So there's all this extra sausage to be made. We really don't know how it will end up beyond that fact was working as saved tens of
millions of dollars for fcps for decades. we don't know how the new structural work. So why the haste, why the rush to eliminate something that works
with people who are not paid consultants. So they actually serve out of a sense of public service and mission and and love for their community. to
us much pollen, number 5, people who we don't even know if any fact members agree to serve everything. I've all my conversations are now to to be
so hasty to eliminate something that works, that's beneficial to fcps to the public for something that doesn't work because we don't even know how it's going to work just going to figure it out on the fly. That's the
very antithesis of the type of administration that are public expects officiant and
effective schools. Mystic's >> I believe the view being very efficient and effective by come combining a FAC unseat cbdc. I have served on CDC
before. I also served under audit committee before I like those structure, 40 committee and of and this proposal of having said you know, community members that the
voting rights and if you do come cbdc, it would be much more effective and efficient and more work be done. Number
of people, bait age, all can be discussed and on bait. You know, later can discuss that next meeting because ultimately one quick action
sometime in instructions go fact from CPD C them back and forward. Then it goes to the full board or take a lot of time. And I think we can cut charred that that this
combination. I'm in support of that. And I feel like they're moving in the right direction. Thank you. Mr. Mcelvain for go back. I haven't spoken to this
peace yet. So it's not a comeback. >> I do want since this is the 3rd. And final time looks like we're going to be discussing
this. The dissolution of that pack. I'm going repeat what I said at the first meeting, which is that I'm profoundly
sorry because some very passionate and active members of our felt disrespected by this decision. No matter what
folks say. That's nice. That can. Correct for that. So. I I will say I've done what I can. I think Mr. Dunn's and what he can. Thank you to all those
who have served on this committee for the past 14, 15 years, made an indelible mark on the system. Dr Anderson.
>> Thank I served on CPD C-four probably. All of the years that I've been on the school board for it is not like audit. One of the
benefits of having the F Pack committee. It's because they are able to be representative of each of the areas of the county. We know all too well. How important that very
specific representation out. What how important that is. We see that with the boundary process while we could talk about on holistic level, it's really important to have
people who know those neighborhoods be able to raise concerns that would impact those various areas of the district. That is not what the audit committee needs to do. They don't. They're not
actions that are going to be taking place that are so that will only pertain to various sections of FC of fcps its overall. And it works. Where
is the voice that is going to say, hey, when we take a look at what's happening in front Coney a this is what we see because the 2, 3, 4, members, whatever that number ends up being half of person. I know
that conversation went on and won last last time. They will not have that intimate information that they could That f pack currently has
because they represent on the corners of fcps. So. I won't say no one. I get it that there's not that there's a
will to want to do things differently. But let us not conflate what they can bring with what audit committee is able to do because they're 2 different things. This is not
an apples to apples comparison. It's apples to oranges. And again, I cannot we iterate enough. I cannot believe we're sitting here
turning people away who are trying to help us. This lady. Thank I wasn't planning to
speak to but I I have spoken with migraines. Representatives. >> Who on a pack and we've had some very good conversations. They certainly understand my understanding of the path
forward and why I'm supportive of moving affect members, son saying that committee and putting the expertise at the table other board members and some of this I I learned from
my conversations with them that some of the things they were doing, they reference writing of memos that were school board directed in terms of research one of my
frustrations. I've never read any of these memos. And so while they were working, I felt like they were working sort of. In a vacuum because some of what I think they
thought was being shared with me as a board member. I have no recollection of ever seen. And the last thing I want to say is that interesting enough, this is of someone's bringing this back for a vote,
but it past the first time 8 to 3. >> Thank you. Seeing no others were going to go ahead and
call a Oh, I'm sorry, God. Thank you them it. I need my points. Couple meetings one.
Just to repeat for the public for benefit A particular advisory committee. Could one
body fission to and body fat to uncertainty. The debate. And pull them in this concert to peace beyond. And this is one of the boards can be made
by which are you. What I really? If you're disappointed how this was carried. Come to
the vote. We have. Knowledge number. Community, volunteers. The surging and the community
for many years to help Having fun, take engagement with that as 2. Why a certain board
members, one pulled me that the committee should restructured. Want to spend. And maybe might be older freed
chief contribute to the of the school system. He was just. He's come up with it, notified after the fact that they were
going to spend Dallas. Not the way we should be between business and I think the b******* you distill Maccabees
intend to bring motion $0.3 2 the process spent 2 will issue to so that they could have we could engaged have fun members
first and have discussion and conversation Make a decision and what to do with That why I am supporting this motion by
method. Okay. Now seeing no others. I'm going to go ahead and call for a vote on the motion. >> The original motion that is
on the screen. All those in favor. Mr. McElveen. Mr. Dunn, Mr. Moon Dr Anderson. All
those opposed Mr. Fresh, Mr. Missing turn coming. This Lady Mystic's it Mr. McDaniel and myself. Will the clerk please read the vote? 5, 6, the
motion fails. Thank you. Madam Clerk, agenda item. 6.0 4 action item proposed amendments to the governance menu icon as mayor and from
ocean. I move that the school in the strategic governance manual as follows. Insert a new number 5 and executive limitation. Number 8
superintendents relationship with the board on Page. 24 2 read as follows update division regulations in accordance and alignment with reviewed or updated board policies. And within 60 days
provide to the board either the updated regulation or a plan to update the regulation by a date certain. And remember the list items accordingly. Amend the current number 6 feet and taisha
number 8 superintendents really Gordon Page. 24 by striking the freeze, relevant documents in advance and inserting the freeze. Relevant documents are posted public
no later than 5 is a seasoned advance in its place. And the men, number one, the NB 5 meeting protocol, impeach. 37 by striking the freeze
circulate proposed motions and amendments whenever possible. At least 48 hours before the meeting and inserting the phrase the norm for the board shall be that any items you can board action have motion language included in order to
be posted online as part of the board's official agenda in its place. Is there a second second? Thank you, Doctor
Anderson. man, would you like to speak your motion? So the public may or may not know. We have a governance manual and we follow governance prop policies and practices. In
addition to Robert's rules. But it has become clear that some of these rules need to be refined and some of the rules don't speak to certain matters that are really causing
problems and how we do our work. So this has 3 topics. One is to update to be sure that the superintendent's updating regulation within 60 days and this has been an
understanding. But in practice, it hasn't been 60 days when we updated policy. So, for instance, the board updated our boundary policy in July of 2024, that regulation
did not get updated until this Tuesday, which some of my colleagues may be surprised to know because we weren't informed about it. My to happen to find it. The second
part is that the superintendent will have to post documents publicly no later than 5 days in advance, which is really what's an alignment of our meeting procedures. But by putting it into these executive
limitations, which are the public way that we show that we're holding the superintendent accountable. This further reinforces that we really do need this because we need to be prepared and we want the public to have the
information. Like, for instance, the boundary materials 5 days in advance was before Tuesday when they came out. And finally, the last item is about clarifying
what constitutes posting to the agenda. So this evening, you see here, the motion. Well, we this change would specify that what we need when something is posted by 5 days
in advance is there is a detailed description of what this is about. ocean language. So we know exactly what we're supposed to vote about and includes the materials. So the
whole thing is posted. 5 days in advance. Now this can be adjusted. We have procedures to make changes. If someone wants to change the motion or
at a document that's fine. But we have had a lot of serious instances in the last few weeks where this cause problems, particularly with Western high school. When I
thought we were voting on phasing and we are actually voting on transportation and the years of schools coming in. So that's what this aims to do. I will say that there will be an amendment brought
on the language for the 3rd bullet of the 3rd one because we actually further clarified it to make it even more correct. So that will be forthcoming. And I will be supporting that motion. Thank
you. Dr 100. Anderson. We do expect your second. Yes, briefly, I think man did a good job with introducing these 3 part. What I wanted to add is the importance of this
clarification to the public when the board adopt a policy. That means that there's an expectation that is different and it needs to be
communicated. 2 staff and to the public in terms of exactly how that's going to be rolled out, that is done through the regulations. So it's really important, especially for staff and teachers who are
largely responsible for rolling out much of the work that is involved policies to have that clarity as soon as possible. That is why we're asking for that very tight timeline. We call with during
my first term on the board. It was not unusual as the policy was being built, that the regulation was also being constructed at the same time.
So they almost walked the line together. That wasn't a gap from when the policy was adopted to win, the regulation was written. >> So that is going to help communicate what the expectations and how to carry them out to staff more than
anything. The last piece that I want to speak to is the posting motions and all of the documents, 5 days in advance. That is a point to a public because once now in the
community see what it is that we're going to be voting on and they need to make determinations like, what do I need to tell my representative? What is my concern about this thing that
they're voting on? If that is not known well in advance, they do not have the opportunity to speak to us and to give us their feedback. We're going to be speaking
about 8 in just a little while. We're talking about relationships to the community and communication. This is just one more tool. In order to not only communicate
clearly with the public, but to also get their feedback so that we represent interests. I
call on Dr, Anderson for an amendment. Okay. Sorry. I lost
my page here. In the second bullet of the main motion strike. The word business in the phrase relevant documents posted publicly no later than
5 days in advance. And the second bullet in the main motion insert the phrase in alignment with meeting procedures as detailed in the boards. Ford's bylaws. Strike
the 3rd bullet in its entirety in and start the following phrase in its place. Amend item be 3 in the bylaws Section 4 B, 3 meeting procedures by striking the
sentence, the agenda and all supporting documents and information shall be made available to the school board and the public and posted to the Web site at least 5 days
in advance of the meeting whenever possible. And inserting every agenda items detailed description and all
supporting materials shall be made available to the school board and the public and posted to the Web site at least 5 days in advance of the meeting. Additionally for
agenda items requiring public board action, namely action items and consent items. The motion language shouts similarly be made available at
least 5 days in advance. The deadline of the 5 days in advance shall be met unless there are extenuating circumstances, which will be recorded specifically and the
Web based agenda, agenda items, description under the heading reason for delay posting of materials prior to the meeting commencing. And
its place. Is their second second. Thank you, Mr. Fresh. Dr. Anderson, would you like to speak amendment? No, I think I sufficiently explain this is just clarifying some
language that was previously presented. Mr. Fisher do like to speak to your second. Yes. So the first part of the main
motion reflects some. >> Comments that I had when this first went around to colleagues and these amendments are the result of
conversations I had with MS Marin where I express. You know, anybody who's been chair of this board and we just had a whole bunch of them here
here earlier knows that there are sometimes challenges that are beyond any one individual's control when it comes to documents and I think
we all agree that we should be transparent to the public about when and why those things happen. And so I want. To serve on the board where we have access to information is early as possible. And when
that information is not available, that were told why. I think that's reasonable secondarily, you know, alignment with that. I will be
bringing a follow-on motion that I'll speak to later. That would hopefully lead towards the alignment of the boards. Motions to track. Similarly to what we expect of the
superintendent because if we want more time with material from the superintendent, I think we probably also want more time with the work that we engage each other on as
well. But I think that does 2 things that I'm grateful for them. The main motion makers are starting the conversation around what we can do to increase the amount of time.
We have materials to review and bring some transparency too the whole process,
including when we fall short. >> Highs. I was not last meeting how south missed some of some of this conversation.
I like to have a bit more cotton discussion before I can on this. So at this point, I have friends not be able to
support it. Mr. Moon. It meant to speak. Thank you. Aaron.
Yes, a fi. This was put on new business 2 weeks ago. December. The 18th of December. So this was posted as new business, the 18th of
December. And it was only when the member from Providence this week reached out to collaborate to get to yes together that we brought the changes. We certainly invited
comments at any time and welcomed input. It's been advertised publicly noted and is just codifying the rules that in theory we've all spoken to to work, it's best
to have to be clear. So we all know what the expectations I'm going to take a quick turn about the amendment. I would like to thank Mr. Fresh for
the work that he did. >> To clarify some of these, I think that having the opportunity to break apart this. This motion into the separate pieces would have
been helpful rather than putting them all together. However, at this time because I was not asked at all and not addressed at all related to any of this other my colleague
from Providence. I'm not gonna be able to support the amendment to the motion or the motion itself. So I'm going to be abstaining cause. I don't have enough information to
make the decision this evening. Okay. Seeing no others. We're going to go ahead and vote for the
amendment. That is on the screen. All those in favor. Mr. Fresh this mayor and Mr.
McElveen this lady. Mister Dunn, Mr. Moon. Dr Anderson and Mr. McDaniel. All those
opposed. Mystic's it all those and staining. That's missing John cunning and myself with a clerk. Please read the vote.
8, 1, to the motion carries. Thank you. Now we are returned to the new amended language.
Seeing no others were going to go ahead. Art. This is new amended motion. Thank you. I I appreciate my colleagues
working together on this because when initially came through. >> I was going to supported. more comfortable, but I just have a couple questions I just
want make sure we understand, you know. When we talk about like the first bullet in line with me snow in the first bullet. Where's have been
entirely amended. Only on the screen >> within the 60 days provide the board the updated regulations are planned.
Update the regulation of by a date certain. So that means that somewhere in the journey we could be at 45 days. We could be a 59 days. We're not gonna make it to 60. The superintendent can come and
ask for extension. It's my understanding of how it's written. I just want to clarify before word were to vote on it. Here's part of my concern is it lady, would you like your colleague to answer? Yes, I'd like my calling to
make of the motion could. Could you please answer the question? Yes, so and this was
one where someone did engage with us, Dr Mrs Fish again, engage with us early on. >> So yet what it says is update the division regulations in accordance in alignment with reviewed or
updated policies. So like the bounty policy July. 24 within 60 days, the superintendent is to provide the board either with the updated regulation or a plan. To update the
regulation by a certain date. And I prefer not to talk about all of the exceptions because the reason we're doing this is because we have not been good at doing this. So I'm happy to
I suggest we adopt this and we could always tweak it. Okay. I just need clarification because as someone who sits in chairs, there are definitely some things that need to go
through legal and sometimes we are in a legal backlog. So that's that was what my question came. I actually agree. I believe in accountability. when we updated policy, yesteray collation needs to be
addressed. But I also understand what an incredible the volume that runs You know, the superintendent's office and I want to be sensitive to that and I'm very, very
pleased that we pulled out business out of bullet number 2, because I think it needs to be just 5 days. And again, you know, yeah, this is an
expectation we need to meet but sometimes all the materials are not or something's changing in real time. So I mean, I'm certainly much more comfortable with.
new term in new new amended language I think it's have in terms of questions right now.
Thank you. Dr. Anderson. For go back or belief. Yes, just very briefly. I do want to
just again say this I think initially when we had business states that seem to have been a little bit more flexible. But there was more time. >> 5 day seems to be a little tighter. And I even know that
the clerk had shared some concern. But if we're fine with that, I'm fine with it because the whole idea is to ensure that we have all of these documents be available publicly. So public can be
responsive to us about what we have moving forward. I also need to reiterate that in years past when I first got on the board. Documents, regulations were built right
alongside. >> Of the of the policies. So that wasn't a big lad. And we also know that life happens. It's great to have a structure.
>> But we need to also be flexible. That life happens and there might be some extent circumstances that would require for one of 2 things or, you know, periodically to fall out of line. But I think
now we don't have any structure. So we don't know whether or not the regulations are going to come. 60 days, 90 days a year. Well, 2 years after the fact, that's not a
good way of us to That's not a good way to do business. So I just wanted to make sure that I share that we could be building the regulations as the policy is being written because that did happen before
when I was on the board actually on governance. That first my first ENT Stafford walking with 2 drafts. Thank
you, Dr. Anderson, I'm going to take a quick turn. One of the concerns that the clerk did bring forward was related to the 5 business days both
are problematic, right? Is that we have when we have the 5 business days when we have certain meetings, it does mean that they're going to be Causes an overlap in our in our schedule. That creates a
problem. I think that. 5 days is what we have been doing, which is aim to have all materials available. The superintendent's office works to have all
>> materials available the Friday before meeting when it all possible. There are always extenuating circumstances. And I do appreciate the fact that it does account for that Dr Reid.
>> Could you speak to? I think that some of it would allay some concerns Codifying the 5 days does not mean that we're going to change our practice related to whether or not
aiming. >> For because if we if we do only abide by the 5 days, that does mean that our clerk team is going to be working on the weekend. So I would really love to ensure that we are
going to continue to aim for Friday afternoon as the way that we will have all meeting materials just just to allay any can in any concerns that may be happening. Yes, ma'am,
we generally have things ready to roll Friday afternoon, I own some of the clerks team. They're often times we are connecting over the weekend, you know, with an attachment
here, something that definitely front is the intent. Okay. Thank you very much. I think that that helps alleviate some concerns. One of the issues are one of the
concerns that I have related to some of the amended language first thing because it says every agenda item, it means that all new business
items would have to be 5 days in advance as well. Which means now you're talking about 3 weeks before were actually voting on something which seems a little excessive. So I don't think that the nuances there. It's one of the things
that I would have brought up. if had a chance to talk to somebody about it. So I think that at this point, again, I still cannot support the existing language because of
changes that don't compass the way that we actually do work. This lady for go back. Yeah, I appreciate those comments and
>> I didn't even put that together in terms of every agenda item. Just given the volume of watching. Madam Chair work. Hours upon hours
to get things prepared. And I guess what I'm feeling right now is just in full transparency that I wish perhaps he's at all been brought this individual amendments and not as a
cluster and because there is a cluster, I think right now I we need more more time because I I think I'm comfortable with the first 2, but not the 3rd
So probably going to be able support it. Mr. Moon. >> That wasn't I appreciate
maker of the solution. Putting this motion. but at this point in time you have not been support it because I think city choirs for the
conversation, almost a board members and with the superintendent and the scene with the with weather because, you know, Bush and doesn't
pass. He ques to that. use the scheduled time. >> This mayor and for go back.
Yes, I just want to clarify. So I emailed all school board members on December 16th. Plus, the clerk in the superintendent saying that Dr, Anderson, I would be bringing it posted as the business with
the original language on December 18th. I emailed all members on Monday saying, hey, just a reminder, this is on the agenda with a link to the language, Mr. First was the only person that reached out.
I've certainly I sent an e-mail saying I'd love to collaborate literally. Those were my words. If people can't reach out and engage their colleagues in the communications being sent, we
will never move forward. >> even if we had the best roles ever. If people don't Express if they have questions or then I don't we're not doing the right thing.
Currently, we're just not and it's unacceptable to have a policy done in July. 23 of 24 on one of the most important things we've done in 40 years and only receive the update 2
days before we receive the actual recommendation. And by the way, we're voting on that in 2 weeks. I have it right here. My staff are grab it for me. I have chance to read. It
is 5 pages about how the boundary changes will be implemented. These changes are going to be codified to prevent this because this is not right. And that's how we
hold the superintendent accountable. Mystic's it. So I apologize to colleagues that I
was not able to discuss because I was out of country. >> and will leave. And I was not able to communicate as my but there was in the hospital sign ICU. So I would say that
I would request some more time to discuss this. I'm not against it, but I do need time to discuss this for them. Dr Anderson, for go back. Yes,
thank you. I just want to kind of reiterate what Miss Mary had just said. It is a practice when board members and bringing things forward that we email and people ask,
do you have any questions? And I typically have just answered. I have questions. Let's talk. I've shared this with you Anderson, when you brought something very recently I shared with miss
the freshman. He has sent something. Yes, I have questions. That's how we get the ball rolling. The silence, you know, seems to consent for the most part. And I don't
want for this policy or this proposal to be treated any differently than all of the other proposals that board members have brought up. We have to engage with each other. It is a two-way street.
And I know particularly when I'm leaving something not only do I send the email I sent you a tax. I call you. try to have a lot of outreach and a lot of times nothing comes back. Most
of the time. Nothing comes back. Some of you are really great about returning. But some it's not consistent
across the board. So if it was sent and we sent and sent again and no questions were raised. We don't know how to move. Clearly the questions that Mister Frisch had. They
were in discussions for hours with us to ensure that we can get to that place of compromise. And so there was a space for us to have these discussions. And I just want
to be sure that we're being we're acknowledging that. If everybody can turn their lights off for me, I think
that we're ready to vote on the amended language that is on the screen. >> So all those in favor. Mr.
Fresh mayor and Mr. McElveen Mr. Dunn Dr Anderson. >> And could we? I can't see
Mister McDaniel. >> All those opposed. Mr. Moon, Dick's that Mr.
McDaniel, lady and myself. All those and staining. Missy John coming the clerk. Please read
the vote. >> Given that we do have the full board. It is a tie. But
given that the full board is here, the motion fails.
>> Action item. 6.0 5 net-zero motion. This item was withdrawn from the agenda and will be considered at a future meeting. Agenda item. 6.0 6 action item, Fairfax County
School board, Electronic Participation resolution. This item was withdrawn as an action item that has been placed on new business for this meeting with an up with updated documentation. Agenda
item, 6.0 7 action item. Armstrong Elementary School renovation, contract value Adjustment, Architectural and engineering Services. I call on Miss Maren for a motion.
>> I move that the school board approves an increase to the total amount of the architectural and engineering services contract to Hoard. Copeland mocked Inc for the Armstrong Elementary
Renovation project to 2 million, 576 excuse me. 2 million, $576,424.50 and authorize the division superintendent or the chief operating officer to execute
deliver and administer the contract on behalf of the school board. Is there a second second? Thank you. Misleading this man. Would you
like to speak your motion? So pretty passion about facilities and contracts and procurement. And this board has done a really nice job of trying to elevate that work and focus more. We have
recently passed a policy to allow us to do different types of procurements approaches in an effort to save money. We also have been elevating data about the woeful lack of
funding for our facilities that are you 7 days a week by this community and are not there's not enough money to cover the maintenance. Let alone builds new modern
accessible buildings. So when I saw this come through as a the consent item because the board has to review certain contracts of a certain amount and sometimes we just pass
them through seeing that this seems to be in over. 25% increase. I had to pause. And I know that some of my colleagues also have paused. And while I'm very excited that my residents that
Armstrong Elementary will eventually get their new school, there have also been questions about the capacity of it why the need for this space in this place. So I do
think that it merits a conversation and answer some questions. And I believe some of my colleagues have specific questions to ask. lady. Would you like to speak to second?
No. Thank you. I have a question for the superintendent or for Mr. Korn.
>> researching this particular issue. There was reference made to the fact that even though there's not housing development. That would cause
an expansion of the school, a capacity enhancement that there was a desire to do so because there might in the future at some point the housing put out. appreciate the long-term nature of the
thinking. But this this expansion of the school will cause the capacity utilization to go down to I believe 45% from. I think it's around 60
or 70 now beefing correct me if I'm wrong. So I'm trying to understand in terms of just scarce dollars and if if I understand correctly that there is this kind of long-term thinking this
driving the expansion of the school. We recently risen in my district resolve to a problem with the school that was only about 30% capacity
utilization we should be looking to introduce new new problems where we have schools that are so. Fairly utilized from a school division perspective. So that's wonder
if you could offer some thoughts in that regard. >> So Mr. Didn't get thoughts and the of why we renovated to
ease our chair or can college isn't little more specificity and health So it's not the fact that the schools being renovated. The school obviously is on the renovation. Que, but as part of the renovation dollars are
being added to expand the school. As I'm understanding, even though there's a number of students that would drive that expansion. I Mister
Gorton share why the dollars are being added. >> Yes, yes, ma'am. A case or so from as conversation we've had last couple days. construction for projects as a
multi-year process. project has had 8 previous additional services or change orders and the bulk of those were in 2022
23 can 23 one with 22. And those are all during the design and permitting phase. The district look like, you know, 4 or 5 years ago, you
know, does that change over time? Sure. But we do as if we talk about we do see this as an area of growth. We are in construction approximately 25% through construction process.
And so. We do share the same capacity concerns. But we do believe that in this area, the county, the growth will support this facility. Onions in the end state.
>> And what's the data that supports conclusion there? What's the kind of records that were shared with you that led you to want to expand the school, which it I correct that the capacity utilization
will. We'll follow the 45% from the current utilization. Take that for record. I'll get back to you. From your sense peace. But for growth, we do work with the county on a
monthly basis and clever with them on future growth areas. We do get notification for new development. And we do believe that the Silver Line area will be the area of growth within the county. And was that a
specific or question? The Board of Supervisors to to expand the school? So the Knicks. The expansion of the
school was based on, you know, so we have a design to that goes back to 2008. And so we're in process when when officer came up, there were >> requirements that weren't
and standing with the current educational specifications. So the expansion and variance in design I think primarily don't to do with or related back to
the. Coming in line with its banks. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Dunn. >> Seeing no others were going to go ahead and call for a vote on the motion, which is
on the screen. All those in favor. This mayor and Mr. McElveen Misty John, cutting lady Mr. Dunn, Mr. Moon Dr,
Anderson, Mr. McDaniel and myself. That is unanimous for all board members present at the diocese. With Mystics. It and Mr. Fresh away from the
table. Agenda item. 6.0 8 action item, new consultant Contract IX center L P academic and business
consulting services. I call on. Mr. Fresh for Motion. Actually, what we'll do is Mislaid E can I call you for a
motion? Please. Absolutely. Very happy to help. >> I move the school board approved the contract for academic and business
consulting services and authorize Division. Superintendent or the director of the Office of Procurement Services to execute deliver administer the contract on behalf of the school is their
second second. Thank you, Mr. Fresh misleading. Would you like to speak your motion? No, Mr. Fresh. Would you like to
speak to your second? No. >> Seeing no speakers. We're going to go ahead and call for a vote for the motion that's on the screen. All those in
favor, Mr. Fresh. Mr. McElveen. Misty John Counting Lady, Mr. Moon, Mr. McDaniel
and myself. All those opposed. Mr. Dunn Dr Anderson, all those abstaining Aaron. Well, the Kirk's please read the
vote. With mystics away from the table. >> 7, 2, 1, 1, The motion
carries. Thank you. Agenda item. 7.0 one performance reviews, relationships with families and community stakeholders. 3 monitoring report each year. The school
board assesses the superintendent in part on the basis of the school divisions, reasonable profit, progress toward achieving the 2023 2030, strategic plan gulls in
adherence to a set of 13 executive limitations found on pages 14 through 31 of the board's strategic governance manual. The the superintendent provides an annual monitoring
ports to the board for each executive limitation. The board then votes on whether provided report is in compliance or if corrective action is needed. I call on Dr Reid for a monitoring report
on executive limitation. 3 relationships with families and community stakeholders. >> This evening, I'm obviously
at the tail end of a head cold some imminent house, different staff to to the slides and then I'll respond to questions from the board for the staff. So I'm going to ask our assistant superintendent for
strategy and planning. Miss Nield to go ahead and present the slides and then answer questions. Thanks, sector Good evening to the members of our
port. And tonight I'll be presenting executive limitation 3 which discusses relationships with families and community members and CPS at the time of this report to the best of our knowledge, information and belief. We've
gathered information. And evidence that we believe supports compliance with the board's executive limitation associated with this topic. And we're going to share some highlights this evening. There
are 7 areas of executive limitation. 3 all indicators can be seen here. And although I'm going to only be sharing some highlights this evening, the entire monitoring report is posted publicly for the
community on board docks this evening. So to begin tonight's updates and priest to share that every middle and high school Web site now includes consistent set of information
about for selection for the school, including the course catalog graduation requirements, important dates and general academic advising information. Additionally, the spring as our students are
signing up for classes for 2026. 27. new feature will be added to SIs parent. You for families to sign off on students course requests. We're currently developing and
implementing a framework that's going to identify a standard set of knowledge and skills that we will support parents and students with that elementary middle and high school levels as it relates to
academic and career planning. And then finally, a goal. Innovation team is working on programs that will improve and create opportunities for students as they transition schools. We'll be providing
guidance and resources to support common Processees. We launched a new graduation status feature in parent. You
to the next slide. We launched a new graduation status feature, pair of you and student this year to help parents and students monitor
their progress in meeting graduation requirements as we strive to provide consistency across the division expectations for Schoology usage roster shared with principals at a leaders need
to know session in July of 2025. To support consistent communication of information to families, the special education and Section 5 of for
newsletter share quarterly the multiple modalities. This information may include at these to special education and section 5 of for services, important dates and upcoming
events. Additionally, key resources about I peas and 504, plans have been translated to facilitate family and staff understanding of procedures, rights and processees. And we now publish
official forms related to special education in 14 languages, which is an increase from 8 languages that we previously translated information. Our Office of
Communications hosts an annual caps, keep calm, training for our principles. This is designated to help refine communication strategies for the upcoming school year. The office also supports school
leaders and staff in creating clear engage in communications for families for year-round school communicators program. We're also very excited that every fcps school now has a top 10 list that showcases the
things that make their community proud to be a part of the school. This year we collaborated with our Blue Star families to host a
back-to-school military fair for military families with secondary school students to help them prepare for the upcoming school year. The fair offered our families an opportunity to connect with a variety of file valuable
resources from 17 different community organizations and programs. We also had an inaugural welcome Barkat Barbecue for new and returning military connected families to provide opportunities for them
to connect with one another throughout the division we had over 260 military connected family members at 10. We're also proud to report that fcps
now have 149 purple Star schools. In October of this year are Fcps mobile app was launched. This app is designed to be a central unified tool
for connecting informing our families, staff and students and includes automatic translations in over 100 languages. Our app organizes information into division and
school level feeds and families and students and staff can follow specific schools for targeted updates. This fall. Tandem is also now our official external facing calendar platform for school
websites. And our new app. All of our school websites are successfully displaying tandem powered calendars. And 83% of our schools have created at least one event in tandem. And
at this time, Madam Chair, this concludes the summary of the monitoring report for executive limitation. 3 our relationships with families and community members. Thank
you. I call on Mister Fresh for Motion. >> Can he not be ready for a motion? Twice in one meeting?
I think you can. I apologized. I apologize to. Almost there
from. I move that the school board finds the superintendent is in compliance with executive limitation. 3 relationships with families
and community stakeholders. I further move school board approved them on a new report based on superintendents, reasonable interpretation of executive limitation. 3 relationships with families and community stakeholders as outlined in the strategic
governance manual. Is there a second? I second. Thank Marks it, Mr. Fresh. Would you like to speak your motion? I First.
I want to thank all of the people that help. With our community engagement and family engagement in Fairfax County, Public Schools because it's a lot of very hard
working people who could really use a lot more colleagues to do their work, but things as they are. They do a tremendous amount of work. For their numbers and
this monitor report shows that. You know, historic volunteer engagement, tens of thousands of commute. Family engagement touch points, et
cetera. The you know, innovations like the new app that has been provided to
families and and so You know, and then you look at November and we have a historic passing of excuse me, a historic result in the passing of a of
last bond with 70% of the vote and certainly higher than it's been in many years. And so there's also been efforts to take barriers down from people
from participation military connected families are more connected than ever to fcps as we expand and very soon will become a Purple Star school
division. And so I will be voting this yellow is in compliance. I do have a couple questions. One of the things that has always gotten, you know, he's always kind of been something that I think about
when we talk about engagement the true value informative versus instructive engagement results. What more can we be doing so that we're not?
Looking solely at the volume of responses when we do a survey, for example, and we get 30,000 families participating survey now that on its own is informative
right? The volume, but it's not necessarily instructive until you break down the numbers and see if it's a scientific sample worth taking seriously. What more can we do
when we do have these large samples to use the data in a way that is informative is instructive and not just informative.
>> So I think it's great question I know that our or C department that works under Ms Hill. take a look at UN. Think
about. Think about that question. Honestly say it's it's a good question. >> Because most state official statisticians would die for
some of the sample size is that we end up reducing fcps because, you know, usually they're having to make a lot of assumptions with the data that they haven't. When you have 40,000 touch points and something all on the same type
of survey data, there's a lot that can be gleaned from that. And instead, sometimes we're left with in this region. This is what we got with lower participation may be at this high school. There was more
and it doesn't tell us within the school, you know, are those free and reduced meals families? Are having family so on? How you know, many of the
systems describe schoology. I'm out of time. I might Go back. We'll Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fresh. >> Mystic's it for. Would you
like to speak your second? Yes, briefly, I'm in support of this CL and definitely have seen a lot improvement and the community community
engagement, relationship families. I also, you know, want to just have couple of questions. While one of the slide said that the principles
of be notified for expectation of school schools. You use. What does that actually mean for? Is it fires the for the
teachers usage are the students. It's a bullet on Page 4. >> Yes, Pam. I'm going start or city respond as schoology
department resides and academic office to diversity, Thank you for the question. One of the things that we have discussed in a board work session about a year ago.
>> Was the consistency or lack of consistency at the time of schools, posting information for parents in Schoology so that parents would have a better understanding of what assignments their students
were working on. So we said division expectations. And if that monitoring the the posting of information and schoology from school to school. So we obviously started working with
principals to set that expectation, make sure that they were clear on the guidelines and then we're able to provide that expectation training and support to classroom teachers to be able
to ensure that the schoology pages were up to date for all of the classes. >> Thanks for the response from what I've and it's Jack
to changes from teacher to teacher. It's been the principal is the one, you know, relating related to the teachers. It's actor depends on the individual teacher, how
feel comfortable or not how do we ensure that it actually is consistent like you said, but on school in all schools, like, you know, it's kind
consistent across the board >> So the principals are monitoring it. We have pulled a couple different reports at different times where the region assistant superintendent says look at that. But again, you know that
sometimes teachers are very, very busy. So they might get a little bit behind with that. But their staff available to school. Yes, but some that he expects to help them they need any technical assistance with
posting the information. >> Thank you so much. I last comment I would say is that there's a lot of communication that goes out fcps some time. It does a lot more than people
can take in. And you know, as a parent got of, you know, wonderful students in the school that sometime just it's a noted overlord at some point. My question was the
after their divorce communication is is basically how do we do the dialogue more and I know you do community hearing and you do lot of
other things. But certainly feel that voices were loud or are the ones get, you know, good you what you know? done and how do we ensure that the
parents who are busy and not able to communicate are also being listened to somehow. good questions. I think. >> You know, the community conversations, we try to do
twice a year. If you're busy, you may not be able to make it. The parent, Clyde groups.
Her also another venue. Those meetings, if 2 parents from every school. And the goal is to make sure that. Parents
come to those get information can go back to school communities, share information. So PTA, I think what you know? They are a tremendous partner,
communication. I think the mobile happens beginning catch on terms communication with us. I'm really a conversation to point. We'll continue to
work on ways to do But I do think. The foundry process, which will talk a little bit later, certainly garnered a lot of community conversation.
And so I think we always want more connection that. And so we'll continue to work that. Mr.
>> Yes, overall, I too want to recognize the employees have been at dozens and dozens and dozens of events this year at night on weekends, particularly during the boundary engagement process. I've seen the same small group
of employees providing outstanding professional services. I'd like to know if such employees working outside traditional business state hours are being compensated monetarily or with comp
complimentary time. >> don't have an answer to that. This evening have to get back to you on the. >> I shared out of concern that it's been a lot of meetings and I would like to
know. So there are a lot of metrics in this report, but the metrics are mostly into parts and they're lovely inputs. They're engaging activities that I've been at
observed participated in as a member. And as a parent, but its numbers of webinars newsletter opens events hosted. I don't see an analysis of what's working
best if at all. we just don't have the luxury anymore to do all the things we don't know if they're being productive. So I'm going to be finding the superintendent not in
compliance with report. Most specifically the lack of improvement on the technology instructional connection in communications and families. 2 adults low. There is reference
to a Web icon going on to the home page. I did yet another audit and the school's don't all have it. They don't have the title. And moreover, when you click into it, it does not
have meaningful, consistent information. And it's it's just not acceptable anymore. I've been saying this for every year just a case in point. I was late to tonight's meeting because my 10th grader
happened to tell me about the courses. She was selecting and I had to stop everything because I didn't know that she had had a meeting, selected courses and there is something
in here about the future. very glad that parents will have to sign off because I know of a constituent whose child signed up for a course where they have to drive there. But taking too long. And as such,
I do want to say that during the cip work, I would be bringing a motion for the instructional services division to be moved into gate House. The instructional services division is the only
major office that is not at Gate House other than safety and security. I don't understand how we can be a school division without the instructional services division being in the superintendent Sweet. Now I
know it's a big office. Icing has to be the old office the chief academic officer. Any for instruction must be engaging with you regularly as the chief technology officer is doing as the chief of
schools is doing. I also want to say that the iau report does not reflect the level of engagement that I I require the latest example is
communications with constituents about Tysons Green, who I've been in touch with 4 months to the boundary process, only to find that the superintendent had responded to them directly to answer question. I asked her on
Sunday. I repeatedly feel like I'm respecting the superintendent's wish to not engage with her new leadership team directly on a lot of questions. Let them do their work. But when it comes to my
constituents. There needs to be a partnership. I have additional I would like to have a second term. Please. Thank you. Mr. McAfee. Thank
you both for to it is that I'm following mayor. And because I just want to extend her her praise to the communications staff that have truly gone above and beyond this year, I
I don't think there's precedent for the amount of work they've had to do this year. Whether it's been. listening tours, staffing boundary meetings, Western
high school meetings. It's it's truly been quite a feat. And so I would join Melanie and saying that I hope we're we're recognizing them as they
should be. also want to apply the innovative ideas and this report about having top 10 list of schools. I think that's a good way to promote our message. Kind of tamp down
negativity out there. The line of questioning that I want to. Approach tonight is on the mobile app. So back in 20 14
we embarked on a similar project that was complete and colossal failure. So I'm and curious as what motivated us
to try it again. do you see it? It's being successful. >> We heard from a variety large variety of parents, stakeholders that. And also
following research said significant number of people are actually doing a lot of business from their farm and not necessarily from a laptop for a stand-alone computer. I
think it's you think about mobile banking, mobile apps. >> Mobile. >> Just almost everything we felt like that, but increase her conductivity to family.
So. I really I'm proud of our comms team or communications team. it teams worked very hard to put that together. We
also like we've had so much feedback about the need for a division-wide calendar. So being able to create calendar feed, family can. I do?
Subscribe is the right word connect to so that you could actually follow your students activities both in school field trips after school
activities, and whatever the practices are athletics, that that would really put everything in one place and try to also access. ISIS
pieces be able to pay for months like try to have one stop shot. That's really mobile in every possible way. think that's a great Do I
don't know staff is available tonight to speak to. >> Lessons learned from the last app adoption that might have been applied to this one.
From the 2014 adoption. anybody still here Mister course, are residents historians. Marty, you have some thoughts it's going to
learned. I think we learned a lot. I know that technology has changed a lot over time and we use our phones for so much more. >> At that time, the previous app was really more like an
electronic filing Cabinet you had many website at your fingertips or you really couldn't do much with him but opened then and and review information today. Our app can
do so much more interact so much And much more interactive tool. Then the app was of 10 years ago. So I had 10 years ago. I have it today and it's a world of difference.
>> I will say that the number of board members actually found that app useful in the old days because had the pictures of the principals. So
we're going to school as we knew they So I'm sure the new app has that. But that was the one redeeming feature of the be all that. So do we have a cost on the app adoption or is that something you can get to
us? I can absolutely get it to you. Dr. Anderson. Thank you. One of the things that I
wanted to raise your consideration is >> about community engagement. I think we tend to put a lot of different activities and to that we do a good job of
awareness because I'm a parent. It 2 different levels and I get a lot of things. So that is our opportunity for. To to alert the community of
things. But the engagement and the feedback to impact decision making. I think that's a place where we can do a little bit more. In addition to what miss a fish had said in terms of who are we hearing
from. I also want to understand a little bit more in terms of how do you determine the activities on which you will engage the
community for decision-making as outline indicator 3. >> So certainly with injuries. You know, the policy drove the
engagement strategy. And I think with. In general we the parent Quad Group, meet with. Family members and parents
from every school in the county multiple times a year. And again, that's a reciprocal relationship. They come. We do presentations on topics.
They're interested in. You go back to their community and can become spokes people about about work. You know, we do
community conversations. Both fallen spring in every region which are open to any community member come and visit about any topic they wish. So those are some
examples. Sure. >> But I think because I've been to some of the community conversations Homestead and many times people coming to speak about a very specific issues of them. But when it
comes to making a decision on the district, I think there's some what first that could be made a little bit broadly because these are all very small quadrants. We still have 180,000 almost 180,000
students and their families. So there's an opportunity for greater outreach because we've side here where we've heard particularly in December 18th, dozens of parents came and
spoke and some even tonight about the AI rollout. Like when do we engage them? And that because that's a huge, an impactful activity to their student. I'm trying to
understand why. When do we create that delineation like, well, we're going to handle this here. Fcps will will make you aware or we are going to
make you aware and ask feedback about our activities. I just want to see behind the curtain a little bit in terms of how you determine which route.
>> So the AI we actually had event public event November meeting the moment where we invited the entire community to come in. And hear from both
myself, Mr. Sethi. Several of our partners from Google and play lab. And we're going to have another event coming up when we have our play think
it's national competition. And we, you know, sent out communications regarding that topic. And as we you know,
become cite any also on that topic. We've already initiated a conversation. going to be talking about that in the parent group as well. So those are kind of pieces I I don't
you know, boundaries of really consumed. I think a lot of time in the last 18 salute Lee. >> I recognize that. You're absolutely right. There's been record with the boundaries and, you know, multiple
meetings a week. I recognize that. But I just want to kind of put in your ear when we are running out to be thinking about what is awareness, where we just letting people know which of those I even say
you've talked about and what is the opportunity to actually pull people in and get their feedback? Similarly with calendar? You know, we've heard from people here like we
rolling out calendar year. year in year out and there's no space for them to be able to say, hey. Where we are not asking for their feedback on
that in a way that is going to be structured and comprehensive. Yes, we'll have people come here and here, you know, come to the meeting, do e-mail us. And they have been more and more. I just want to
be more thoughtful about that. I did have a question that I wanted to ask about. >> The >> the website. I do
appreciate the website seeing that every of every single one of the schools has not tab that's been outlined here that says coursework when you open
that have it is all very different. I didn't realize Marin did this, but I did my own audit today and not just with my schools. I think I hit about 8 schools in all of that adds we're here. They are all
very different with different types of information. And it's and consistently laid out. And again, I'm not going to be as Fauci about the layout, but
the content. I made a little chart for myself that I'm happy to share. But I wonder if it would make sense for someone in your office to do their own audit from a user
perspective, because if I have a parent and it's likely you have parents who one kid is at one middle school because they're not AP and others at another middle school because they are AP in. It's just a
little bit too much for them to navigate things that are so vastly different. So I would encourage you to have someone take a look. Do a quick audit to evaluate whether or not
what we're articulating here is actually the user experience. I'd like to go back, please. Yes, ma'am, will do that. Thank you, Doctor, Anderson, Mr. Moon.
>> Thank you that. You things with his take talk to me, especially with a voice like Maybe I shouldn't be asking us questions because you may have
to use your voice going to ask couple questions. My questions, coach, you. The couple of different areas. The central Registration. Welcome
welcome Center. lot of times, you know, unfortunately, I get to a a hear from the constituents, especially up for coming to Fairfax County
for the first time to have the should run. Just not for us. Please. You know, sometimes they may be coming at the very last minute. Sometimes a punt. But the calm, you know, in my
mind already enough to start process. And within one for and I find the process not
easy to navigate we know that many people come to a central mission getting summer months, like even, you know, late spring to summer months. And
then I don't know with the yacht sufficiently staffed during those months us hourly employees to take issue needs
when isn't influx people, Mark, I'm going to keep a clean at the same time about and I people getting Too fun information, conflicting
information from depending upon. >> You know, when you you know, when they talk to so request they no, I'm not gonna make an assumption. People
might be some there. Stan, you know, with the instruction given to them pushed making ease. >> I may be with the jewelry,
the clean. >> Families after registrations time. You know, if he could just some sort into find with day feeling you
you know, you as we are, he can you know, we can do. You can improve. How we provide information, how we process application. got to the
question I'm making. If we already doing that, these pro that we the information about, you know, feet >> All right. I will check the
I can give you some feedback for guarding a military committed families. Couple. I think it was 2 years ago we had an online registration
peace. peace on our website. Also connection for a military connected families my last military connected Family Advisory Committee meeting. There was a lot of positive
nation. But what I would call the transition in to Fairfax County I think the team worked really check on the survey special, you know, up if he
especially. >> hear from. And then reaching minority family? Yes, and I appreciate the same thing. Bush with a community engagement. I I do understand
I know you we may come out of first to provide interpreting receiving many of the meetings. many of the place he died being too. Have not
really see that many. And then beaten minority. You know, families participating and coming into use interpretations on ABC Center.
Now, you might the question that comes to my mind whenever that happens when I when I see What the intent is ease another way to Friendly's, to
reach out to them. And >> and used to find out I coming. Because
>> Amanda is an argument for, you know, that large percentage power families green. Then wind families and patients. The people you participating, Comey attending
these important meetings, do not. >> First I want just compliment superintendent our
team on the top 10 lists. I think that's a fantastic start. you know what? A big fan I am because there's so much. data out there on great schools com and similar
websites. We need to do everything we can to uplift our schools and for claim the daily excellence of each and every school in our county. That's that's the reality. And
unfortunately have so much negative stuff out there on social media otherwise. So to bring forward the daily excellence and really shining a light on it. So every community members aware of it, not just the parents with
their kids in that school I think is is a vital part of educational obligation and our modern society and also to restore public public trust and public education. We need
to show them what's happening, our schools and unfortunately in fcps, we often have too much of arm's length relationship historically. So I just want commend you Dre, because I don't know if
there's ever been a superintendent who's in our schools and in our communities as much as you are community conversations, all different types of advisory committees, including with military families and many other
communities. It's so vital to the success of our school division that you're doing that work. And so I just was a thank you and night when you're losing a to for all of
that work. One thing I want to ask, not criticism, but as as as a request. One of the best things that really distinguishes a public school
in the public school system of our size from a private school is the wealth of academies. All right. All of the CTE programs we have all of the academy's. We have. while
there are some videos now on the website, most of them are made 6 or 7 years ago. And I we know from other videos get play that these meetings that you have some of the top video
makers probably Virginia and the country. So if we can just get either the communications team to make more videos to make up day videos, at least
showing the diversity of programming or individual programming. We have each of our counties or cities that Non Academy High schools. I think it so important because we need to get the word out because our city budgets been
flat for ever. We need to increase it. But until we have that public demand for, you know, CT for earnings across the board and public awareness of these CTE programs and
pathways, some of which have to start as a sophomore junior really to get the certification. That to be career-ready upon graduation. We won't have that. The man, right? I mean, when we start
something new like welding, we see how the man just explodes because its so exciting and fun right? Not that I've ever welded, but it looks fun right? And and I've seen the art that people make. So I
just want to this is one area where I feel really distinguishes distinguishes us from private schools. We don't have the money and expertise to do things like this. We need to lift it up because if
we were publishing in for sure for each high school, that would be like 50% sure. Thank you. Yes, sir. I'll talk with the team about Thank you
again, thank you. Team. Thank you your entire team. >> The hours you put in you don't get paid well, not for the hours you could put in. Appreciate all you've done. There are 2 and a half page
report. >> Bullet after bullet after bullet of things. Most of which I read. >> We're not in place 3 years ago. Dr Reid, I thank you. I thank you for your leadership
of the school system. While we can always find areas to fine, tune something or something isn't most ideal I absolutely
will support this deal. And I I quite frankly, don't understand how anyone at this Dias could not I. think that they're always occasions where I'm looking for something on a
Web site that I can't find it or its name, something that side to To me or perhaps, you know, I want the different sent a now puts on something
that may have been surveyed. I mean, these are good questions. But the volume of what you have put in place since you took over the school
system. Just it's it. It's shocks me put, for example, the registration. I was snapping as if I was in school because we need electronic version of helping parents
register when they move here and part of what's happening that portal is it's very clear the documentation they need where before it was done over a phone or email and people could see an example and they
showed up for registration appointments and didn't have what they need. All of these ways in which we are communicating are fantastic. What what the 70% bond
approval. That's fantastic. Obviously our constituents believe in the work we're doing our public schools, the tandem calendar of events all the things with family
academies. The welcome center what you've done with Blue Star families and Purple Star schools. We didn't even talk about Purple Star schools 3, 4 years ago. It was not even a
conversation was nothing. We were striving for. So I But but folks are hearing from me is that yeah, if we want to look for something that didn't
happen the way we wanted to, we could find it. But overall and 13, a half report which is rich with with with links and
information. And what I see is is improvements. with this overall yell, kudos you and kudos to the team sitting there in the people that are not here, which includes our principles are DSS is essays.
Are teachers, everyone out there who is putting students and families first by by strength. Thank you. This
Marin for go back. Of course, yes, no doubt. There's been amazing things. I just don't see a measurement how effective those are for the limited dollars that we have.
you know, as a colleague mentioned engagement around AI. We have parents and residents coming to us asking for engagement and really what I think should be is a process
akin to the boundary process there a whole new era. I mean, I heard your remarks at the training earlier this week that we want this to be human-centered. 25% of our students are already using
this without being facilitated. I'm very surprised that there hasn't been a planned for this. And I will speak to that when we get to academic matters but there's been no engagement
with the board. You systemically and then I just think that I don't see. The school board is the face of the school division and we
engage with the community. That is our job. When I have instances where the superintendent is meeting with constituents or announcing AI
and hasn't said, hey, do you think school board member Mary? And I'm hearing this for your community. What are your thoughts to informed the superintendent's decision and also to hear what my suggestions are. I don't see
that we are the first stop for community members. A lot of the time I would just like to see it much more robust. So I I will share these comments electronically and hope that
something can be done about them. Dr Anderson, for a comeback. Thank couple of quick things. One of the things that I wanted to talk
about was Schoology and and I think somebody said earlier, no matter what the platform you'll have people who, you know, still think it needs to to work. I can't even remember
what we had before. Schoology. >> I can't remember. Blackboard. Oh, how could I forget Blackboard? Wow. I will
pause right there what I wanted to share is something for your team to take a look at. and don't necessarily speak with each other. I think some integration there would
be helpful because you times where a student because I've seen this Simon is missing and schoology but grated insists. And I know a lot of parents
are utilizing schoology to kind of keep their kids accountable, especially when they have that that missing assignments section. But if they're not double checking
sis to see is that assignment really missing? It just becomes a little bit cumbersome. So I would love for you all to take a look at that. And we have come a long
way. And I've said this before, but a lot of this is kind of the same report from last year. The same report from before. I know because I keep all 3 and at every meeting I take a look. So I am
not in the camp of. This is all brand new information. I do pay very particular attention to the area of the new evidence because we need
to continue to evolve. That's why we've evolved and your staffing. We've evolved in a lot of ways. So the expectations are higher. So I wanted to share that. And I
also wanted to say for me as one board member, what I think all of these indicators are a valid. They have value. They are not all equally important.
There are some that I value more and that's ways and into my decisions. When we're talking about the the public-facing pieces where my community continues to say
that. Well, I voices do matter. I have to see how can we increase the opportunity for them to have their voices be heard and on the topics
that matter to them. So I will not be voting in compliance, but we're heading in the right direction. We're not there
yet. Seeing no others are going to go ahead and call for a vote. >> On the motion that is about
to be on the screen. All those in favor. So we have Mr. Moon Mystic's it. lady missing, done cutting, Mr. Maccoll mean
Mr. Fresh and myself. And Mr. McDaniel. And all those opposed this mayor and and Dr Anderson with Mister Dunn away
from the table. With a clerk. Please read the vote. To one. The motion carries. Thank you annually. The board will
review each executive limitation at the time. The monitoring report is provided to determine if revisions are needed. Ford members may offer amendments to executive limitations. >> At any regular meeting provided they send the final
amended amendment language to the board and clerk at least 48 hours in advance of the meeting chat at which is to be considered at this time. No amendments have been submitted in advance of this meeting.
Executive has no ID and men months have been submitted. Executive limitation three-run relationships with families and community stakeholders was placed on the consent agenda for approval later at tonight's meeting to maintain
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Comprehensive school boundary review. I conduct or read for a presentation on the 2026. comprehensive School Boundary
Review. >> Thank you. Madam Chair. This evening, I'm going to make a few opening comments because again, want to make
sure my voice for questions. I'm going to Mr. Gordon, to present the slights. I want to begin this evening, thanking the board for setting such
clear direction in adopting the policy around boundaries. think that provided very clear road map for staff. And very clear direction for me as
we've navigated the last 18 months. So first and foremost, I think our board. Thank each of you for setting that guidance and clarity. Also
want to thank a tremendous number of people are teams that's been mentioned tonight. had a lot of staff out doing this work and I appreciate the
work of staff. I don't want to thank all of the volunteers. That part of advisory committee. All the community
members that. That came showed share, their voice, perspective. I so many people through this process. So many
neighborhoods got to know each other. Neighbors. And just really very, very proud of our community and the way they up. And the way we were able to
thoughtfully process project as an entire community. And so a big thank you to our community, our board and our staff that supported this
work. And I think that. When it's all said and done the fact that we keep our children at the centre for decision-making and we crowned our conversations and what's best for children makes all
the difference. its ultimate makes Fairfax special. also say that this process wasn't perfect. And our recommendations. My recommendations are not
perfect. What we're a goal. I think that I haven't. I we share is normalizing this conversation around boundaries. It's really a best
practice routinely review these. And I. I feel like we've taken some good first steps. And we've got obviously more work to do. But I feel
like. The ability to cycle through this work overtime. We continue to be importance and we'll continue to do it in a collaborative, thoughtful.
measured way with our community. So. Rick's going to walk through the slides. And
then I'll answer questions. You know, we we have a lot of demographic data to that. We're going to need to look at the coming years as wrestle
with growth, different parts of the county and neighborhoods that are turning over and so forth. So it's a complex task and I appreciate the patients and the grace of
our community. For staff and you as a board as we process through this, I'm gonna. And this over to Erica after 18 months of doing nothing but
talking about this all state answer questions. Thank you, ma'am. Good evening. All. Dr. Reid is pleased to present the school board tonight. >> Her recommendations for
proposed boundary changes as we conclude. comprehensive boundary review process. As you know, this was the first undertaking of a comprehensive review. School boundary for
our division and the nearly 4 decades. To ensure that enrollment facilities. Programming. The student well-being remain. Aligned with the needs of a growing
and changing community. Throughout this process. We heard meaningful and impactful feedback from families, staff. And community members. Voices help guide and shape our work.
And we are grateful for the engagement of our community and the dedication. Of our staff throughout the process. The conference found reviewed was grounded in the priorities
and direction set forth of our strategic plan. Which serves as our North star, Fairfax County. Public Schools is committed to ensuring that
each of each and every fcps student couple access to excellence and opportunities in alignment with FPA Fcps 20 23. 33 plan. As you recall.
You, as a school board approved an update to the bounty policy. 81 30 in July of 2024, which mandates that fcps school boundaries are reviewed every 5 years going
forward. And then in July 2025, the school board adopted a revised language. We've set the Phase II plan for boundary adjustments at the elementary middle. Hi and secondary
school levels. Our boundary review work was guided by the priorities put forth by the school board and policy. 81 30. As laid out in school
board policy. 81 30. We've had a robust community engagement, including the creation of the superintendent boundaries Review Advisory Committee, which includes committee members from each high school
here amid and guided our work throughout. The development of various politician. Aerials. Beginning in fall 2024. fcps engaged in 4 sets of community
meetings across phases, one and 2 to share information to collect feedback and them. And in that informed new interactions. The bounty scenarios from the fall of
2024. To the end of 2025. We hosted a total of 48 virtual and in person, community meetings with more than 6500 attendees. In addition, we utilize the boundary Explorer
tool to share some aerials and collect feedback online. First in spring of 2025 and then fall this fall, we received almost 25,000 comments on
various scenarios using the Boundary Explorer tool. Superintendent about review committee. Included to parents
this last caregivers from each fcps. There's 24 high school permits as well as school based in division in us traitors, teachers and operational staff,
representatives from county, local government associations and other community members. The rule was to help ensure that community feedback was considered in the development of potential boundary
scenarios and provide recommendations to the superintendent. The committee met 16 times from December of 2024. Through December 2025. and we are grateful that
commitment. These members commitment to their important work. As you see before you, this graphic provides a high-level timeline of the boundary review and its
outline and outlines a process. And we are here and we are now nearing the end this timeline. And tonight I'm presenting doctor is making recommendations on the
proposed boundary adjustments to the school board. Then this Saturday, January 10, the school board will hold a hearing hear public comment on the recommended boundary changes. And on Tuesday,
January 13th, the school board will hold a public hearing on the proposed 2027 Capital Improvement program. Overflow. Test me for school boundaries will take place at that
hearing as well. And then on Thursday, 2022 22,026, the school board scheduled to vote on boundary adjustment recommendations. This timeline
shows more details. Recapping our work from this past fall in October. We help specific community meetings. Appearing to pyramids that each of the meeting to present a scenario
4 in November. The Superintendent advisory board. A visor committee reviewed and discussed the community feedback provided recommended changes Tucson era for based
on that feedback on December. 12th, the Boundary Review Committee provide feedback and recommendations for Dre to consider. Which she reviewed with staff and develop recommendations that she'll
share with you tonight. And again, as I mentioned, the Saturday January 10th, the school board will hold a specific hold a public hearing on the recommended school a boundary changes. If there's any inclement weather on this
day, the school board will hold a public meeting on Saturday, January 17th on Tuesday, January 13th, the school were hold Pacific will hold a public hearing on
proposed 2027 Capital improvement plan with over overflow testimony for school board boundaries will take place at hearing as well. And then on the 22nd of January, school board have a scheduled
vote. The process for determining a new Western high school will begin in February. This slide spotlights the
priorities. Of the school board is set forth in policy. 81 30 guided our work through the process. Access a
prominent programming. Let's ensure equal access to programs and facilities and consider impact school board Population enrollment in capacity was this defined by using student enrollment
projections. Ballots available capacity across the school division and maximize efficient and effective use of school facilities. And for
best practices for capacity, the station and program needs while eliminating preventing the staffs and the split feeders whenever possible. As
you can see on this slide, it describes the priorities of proximity and transportation. Proximate is defined by promoting contiguous attendance zones and maintaining neighborhood Group
Inc. To include kind of many apartment complexes with the goal is to eliminate and prevent establishment of attendance. Islands. Transportation is defined by providing walking busing,
safety and limit transportation time since too sure efficient transportation routes. With attendance areas.
2 of the priorities of enrollment capacity in proximity related to split feeders and attendance islands. Based on existing school boundaries are 42 schools are split feeders and
at least one school affecting all 6 regions and high school, you know, and 18 high school. Pyramids. 30 elementary schools feed into multiple
schools. >> 33 elementary schools that feed into more than one high school and 6 middle schools split between multiple high schools. Additionally, there are 22 boundaries. Which is school boundaries that have at
least one attendance island affecting 5 regions and 14 high school. Pyramids. 16 elementary schools, 3 middle
schools in 3 high schools. Dr Reid's recommendation would eliminate or reduce 9 elementary schools. 2 middle schools split feeders. Antenna, 10 elementary schools, high schools split
feeders. It would all it would eliminate and reduce 6 school attendance islands. Based on
the proposed school boundaries for school year 2024 25 scoot membership data. The proposed changes would impact approximately 2,210 students at 52 schools. estimated 1170
for elementary students, 444 447 middle school students and 589 high school students. These numbers assume that students. Currently transfer
to another school within 2 to transfer to the school and are not included in impact. A number of students. Now with the next 20 slides. I will. I
would like to walk through an overview Dr recommend a boundary changes affecting students at 52 of our schools. As you'll on each of the slides. The map on the left
slide shows the existing boundary and the map on the right side shows the proposed boundaries. The area circled with the black cash line are in the proposed school
boundary adjustments, heat. He took the slides. Describe the changes that the student planning level Spa. spot a small geographic zone used to. Hughes is a building block for
creating school attendance, boundaries, aiming to keep neighborhoods together. While balancing capacity, him program access. My remarks
will provide an overview and I want encourage all encourage reviewing the slide. So for more details, this slide shows proposed changes for the key Elementary School shown in yellow Cardinal Force Elementary School shown in
Gray and White Oaks Elementary school showing up. It puts the proposed changes would eliminate Tennis Island. He entry school and eliminate Keene Mill Elementary schools that feed or at the middle
school level and high school level. This slide shows a pouch. 8 proposed changes for the Rhone Valley Elementary School shown in purple and the Saratoga Elementary School
shown in Gray. These proposed changes would reduce the split feeder at the Rolling elementary Roland Valley Elementary School and a line this area to Lewis High School
pyramid. This slide shows the proposed changes for the cancer, Katherine Johnson, Middle School shown in peak and a rocky run middle school shown in Gray. These proposed
changes reduced the split feeder that green Buyer East Elementary. This slide shows
the corresponding proposed changes on the previous slide to keep the feeder pattern line. This slide shows the proposed changes for the Fairfax High School shown in
purple and Gentile High School shown in P. This slide shows proposed changes for Laurel Ridge Elementary School shown
in blue any Old Creek Elementary School shown in purple. These proposed changes with Lemonade and Tennis Island, Oak Creek Elementary School, and eliminate the Old
Creek Elementary School split feeder at the middle school and high school level. This slide shows proposed changes
for the West Briar Elementary School shown in blue. And the Cold COVID run elementary school shown in yellow. These proposed changes would eliminate their West Briar Elementary School split feeder
at the middle school level and reduce the number of schools. Rest West Briar Elementary School feeds 2 at the high school level. This slide shows
the proposed changes for the throw middle school shown in red and the kill more middle school shown in green. Post changes would eliminate. The Vienna Elementary School split
feeder at the middle school level. This slide shows the proposed changes at the Madison High School shown in
yellow in the Marshall High School shown in P. These proposed changes would eliminate the Vienna Elementary School split feeder at the high school level. And eliminate the Wolf Trap Mr.
School Split feeder. At the high school level as well. This slide shows proposed changes for the long and full of middle school shown in
blue. In the Kuiper Middle School shown in red. These proposed changes with a lemonade to Spring Hill Elementary School split feeder at the middle school level and
eliminate Longfellow Middle School attendance islands. This slide shows the proposed changes for the McLean High
School shown in Gray. And when we high school shown in blue. These proposed changes eliminate the Spring Hill Elementary schools. But for the high school level and
eliminate. McLain High School attendance islands. This slide shows proposed changes for the
felt Fort Belvoir, primarily elementary school in a Fort Belvoir, elementary school shown in purple and a Washington Mill Elementary School showing green. These proposed changes would remove
off base students in Fort Belvoir primary and for Bauer, upper. Washington Elementary school attendance island. And as you know, a family engagement. And school
communities critical to success of each student each and every student to foster such engagement for all face families at the Fort Belvoir Elementary and Upper elementary school level. The
recommendation is to remove the barriers that family engagement and resigning students to Washington Elementary school. This slide
shows proposed changes to the Riverside Elementary School in Gray. Stratford Landing Elementary School in purple. In the Woodlawn Elementary School in Blue. These proposed changes would eliminate the
Riverside Elementary School split feeder. At the middle school level and at the high school level. This slide shows
proposed changes at the cross for Crossville Elementary School shown in yellow Li's corner only help police corner elementary school shown in purple. These proposed changes would reduce the number of
schools Crossfield Elementary school feeds into at the middle school level. And at the high school level. This
slide shows proposed changes for the Coats Elementary School shown in Red McNair and McNair, upper elementary school shown in Gray Flores Elementary school shown in
Green and heard in elementary school shown in yellow. This area was highlight of a school board to be reviewed as part of the comprehensive found review. These proposed changes would eliminate the Coach
Elementary School split feeder at the middle school level and high school level. decrease the coach Elementary school capacity utilization percent is from 137% to 86%. And as we
all know, coach has been one of the most overcrowded schools within the division. This slide shows proposed changes for the Parklawn
Elementary School in purple limit Belvedere Elementary School and Ray Cullom money, Columbia Elementary School in Green. These proposed changes would decrease the park on elementary school capacity.
Does ation percentage from 99% to 89%? Its address is one of the schools, the school board access to be specifically addressed when approved policy. 81, 30 directing our
comprehensive policy review. This slide shows proposed changes for Glasgow, Middle School shown in light orange pole, middle school shown in Brown and Holmes Middle School
shown in purple. These proposed changes would address concerns on the size of Glasgow, Middle School, which is one of the schools that school board specifically address with policy. Anyone 30. I was also eliminate the
Mason Creek Elementary School split feeder at the middle school level. And we acknowledge that the proposed change split feeders would create a Beech Tree Elementary school in Belvidere Elementary
school. time we started in week now is with this proposed change. Split Peters would be created it Beech Tree Elementary school and Beliveau Belvedere Elementary School at the elementary school and
elementary school high school level. This slide. like corresponds to the changes in the previous slide. Allies in the middle school and high school feeder pattern. This
slide shows proposed changes for the end of high school shown in red just as high school shown in purple. And Falls Church high school shown
in Gray. This slide shows proposed changes for Fort Hunt Elementary school shown in Red Mount Vernon Woods Elementary School shown in Orange. I Lionel, Missouri School shown
in Blue. Anger over to an elementary school shown in green. These proposed changes would eliminate tennis islands at Fort Hunt and growth
elementary schools. This slide corresponds to the previous slide to line the school feeder pattern and shows proposed change first and Sanford Middle School in
Purple and Whitman Middle School shown in peak. This slide corresponds to the previous slide to line. The pattern shows proposed changes
for West Potomac High School shown in purple. Mount Vernon High School shown in red. This
slide shows the proposed changes for pollen knows how medals elementary school shown in peak Stratford Landing Elementary School shown in purple. This proposed change
would align home in a neighborhood to attend the same mantra school. As we
conclude. This initial comprehensive found review several structures and processes will help ensure continuity monitoring and redress for future boundary adjustment in alignment with a
review cycle established by the school board policy. 81 30, these include a comprehensive plan for establishing a full-time AP centers at all. Middle schools meeting quarterly with a skeleton version of the
Superintendent Boundary Review Committee. Regular updates to the student planning years, which will be used to inform future boundary slides. And
have identified some initial flag sites future review. On this slide, you'll see a list, the flag areas for future review. This work with. This
work was not about reviewing our current boundaries. It marks an important step toward establishing a clear more predictable and we're process from going boundary work as we
move forward. The lessons we learned that insights we've gained will help improve ensure that our systems evolve alongside the needs of students, staff and fami. We thank you again. Thank our
community. We thank you for patient throughout the process to the community members who served on the Superintendent Boundaries Review Advisory Committee for the time dedication and thoughtful engagement. And to many staff
members who countless hours supported this work. Speaking for Doctor Reed, we're grateful for everyone who are involved involve keeping with our students at the heart.
Every decision and direction we made. We're going to kick things off with Mr. Fresh.
>> Thank you. You know, right out the gate after the boundary policy was evaluated changed, it became clear that this would be unusual for the
board to deal with when seeker maps for the discussion that took over social media, the secret maps, the school board was sitting on that they don't want you to know about. In fact, these maps we've now
learned are so secret that they never made their way into any of the scenarios under consideration by the Barry C or the superintendent. But in
those early days, it became clear how important it is to engage the community early often and with factual information about what exactly
was happening. And I want to talk a little bit about why the process felt messy. And I feel like part of the reason that the iteration of boundary
maps felt messy was because it was transparent. And, you know, in earlier times doing boundary work, much of the work would be done behind the scenes on a one-off boundary
change that was then brought to the communities of the tires could get kicked and then it would get refined in the new move forward. This time around because the project was much bigger because we insisted on having
a beer E C. And we didn't want people to think that work was done in secret. Everybody got to see the first draft of the homework, the second draft or the homework. The 3rd draft of
the homework, the 4th draft of the homework. And then the superintendent's homework. And so that's why that process was messy and I do have 2 2 of my
communities are in the. Flag for future review would like to get. Just an idea of what that's going to entail going forward if somebody could
speak to that. >> Yes, The flag for future review. for those community members watching online are
listening in the white paper, there's a little Not a lot more. Who little bit is why. I think, you know, as we get
closer after the public hearing Saturday. I can certainly draft some more language that we can share. But for example, I know the
Briarwood Communities, one the 3rd bullet. We It did particularly with the Briarwood Trace Group. I asked the team which included our
Office of Safety and Security, transportation and facilities to go out and walk. The path. The community to the school believe it's Marshall Road at
that point and they were not able to team in a safe route to school for a variety of reasons. Based on Traffic flow. you know, on that walk.
So that was one concern we had. But if we think about. The request to move to Oakton as a high school. But we want to do in and I believe I put
this in the white paper is we won't wait 5 years, but we're going look 2 years out after the opening of the Western High School to see how that's
going to affect if it does at all. If we don't know students who maybe had hoped to, you may choose to go to a different high school will get
caught up in. That Western high school work to determine whether the to put another neighborhood of students into
Oakton. So we're going reevaluate that in 2 years. But we did evaluate the lack of ability to classify it as a safe route to school for elementary. And then the
Greenway Downs, Jefferson Village in Kingsley Commons. We're going to look at. That area is still not balanced. we
have committed, I think, to looking at facilities, all the facilities of the most neighborhoods within this gap here to be really better
prepared. Thoughtful plan the next 5 Park. Yeah, I think the difficulty scenario for for that one was that. >> He created another attendance island of a very
large population of students. And by the time people came up with alternative ideas, it was something that couldn't be implemented in time for it. Certainly this year. So we're
next year, maybe I did want to flag on slight 30. The changes that Impact Falls Church high school. One little nugget that's missing there that maybe should be added for
future consideration. Is that? The Falls Church number showing 113% capacity. When the renovation is complete, it will be 88% capacity. So
that's the current structure, not this renovation, the Dr Anderson and I have Visiting the last several years and so
it will not be resulting in an overcrowded school because of a boundary change. That's the current structure. It'll be much lower after it's finished. >> Yes, sir. That's correct. And the same thing happens
with Herndon Elementary. And once renovations complete. They'll be able to better accommodate Coats, elementary school students. So in a
couple areas in the county, we've got a little bit We have to take orders. Preps for a year or until able to utilize renovated space. We'll we'll
make sure staff make that at it. And that's like thank you. I also want to think Donna and Michael. >> And everybody in your team that has done the work from
because in addition to EU meeting with constituents from across the county who had questions about the things that they've been hearing, even necessarily one of the scenarios just rumors that
they'd heard Michael and Donna did a tremendous job attending community meetings and schools responding to constituents, not always with extreme detail, but always letting people know that they were at
least being heard. so I'm going ask for go back so they could talk a little bit about what an after action report might look like when this work is done so that we can refine it for veteran and the future.
Yes, for. I think you I wanted to thank all the work done both Dre all of your team 5,
Mr. by Mr. Manskey before her departure. It's been heroic labor. I wanted to ask a few things. First of all. We met
several times that community meetings with parents of students at Lewis High School and they advocated very strongly for enrollment at Lewis to be increased because of historic changes to
boundaries that progressively reduced both enrollment at that school and the academic and extracurricular and athletic opportunities available to those students. I want to understand what your plan is to address that
concern because I don't I don't see it addressed in these proposed boundary us. Thank you, >> First and foremost, where
looking at transfers. for strategy and Dr. Francais actually is planning to meet with. Staff and a community
group as well. So perhaps touch upon same. Want share a moment. What your plan is to work Lewis High School and the transfers and I think there are also some programming that
they're contemplating there. >> Yes, we have a plan that 14 of month we're going to have a roundtable. Where are we going to have student's boys
firings? >> fact, with and the staff, we have the meeting several times. Listen in to what that comes a time, especially with that ran first and whether
it's first mean for them and with the regulation and how we as the lesion cause, support them to make sure that that number sat up and do you know,
keeping them more attracted to the children? Also, some of the ideas that we have so we didn't have a roundtable community. A witness, a community is that students,
faculty and staff all too. They'll get it good ideas. >> Thank you. I I like to ask if you could do a similar roundtable from Mount Vernon High School because it it has the second highest number of
transfers in the county and far above other high schools, the and so that's definitely issue that would. front.
>> At this what we can do also east in by someone from a burden too, to join me that they so they could see. So we can make whether we are doing
there. I've in what together. >> I want understand some of the mandatory factors in policy. 81, speak to and reducing the number of trailers and modular. But that
seem to be a particular focus of the founder of uses. If you can speak to that because we do have 800 classrooms across the county and trailers and modular. >> Yes, sir. So I I do think
that's something we were not as successful as we could or should been. I think we I think, have been thoughtful to
try to add help others so so positive. But I think one of really positive features about keeping a skeleton group
quarterly is I think we can be as we begin the on-ramp to the next 5 years, much more strategic. And I think that that particular focus could be
something I think we can much more thoughtful about it front. So I expect the next round. Begin to minimize the trailers begin to be able
remove some of those. >> will that be a focus of your quarterly meetings going forward? Yes, there will be one of them. I wanted to understand what your Firfer
interview of through consulting would be if you were to provide one to the public. I mean, they played a major role in this process and how do you think they did?
>> So I think as Mr First mentioned, we're going to be doing an after action report that we would want to include them as a party to I think
that give me a few weeks get done and be happy to share that. >> I keep doing that. Fcps will realize any cost savings as a result of this boundary
review. >> I think You know, I think some of the cost savings are also certain of a hidden. But
if our >> class. You know, hopefully we're going to be saving some a transportation dollars. I don't know. That would be significant. But I do think
that when you have students. >> Better position the schools. You're able to use to have more effectively. So we're hopeful that we'll see
some. Cost savings. I also hope that as we get young people as we've cut back on some of the split feeders, some of the distances to
schools that will have. You know, young people that are better able to engage and families able to engage. So hopefully we'll end up. With a
better experience for fiscal part will try to calculate that. >> Has there been any effort to calculate the cost of this boundary review? Not just in terms of the contract with
through consulting but staff time community meetings, translators, all of those costs and and what that all adds up to at the end the day. >> That will be part of our
after action report. >> Today, 22 attendants islands in this county and only 4 schools are having their attend silence eliminated entirely to or having them reduced. We're
also creating 3 new attendance island. So for that kind of adds up to a wash. if you could comment on that? >> Well, I think we have to be careful about one of the
attendants. I want put an air-cooled that we created is pulling the off base kids off base, I think it's the right thing to do. And I don't. I struggle to call that an
attendance island, right, because it's actually better for kids and families. And I you know, I think as we went out in the community to be
honest, Mr Down and began to talk with families. The Theory of action going in was that families were more concerned about than other things. But what we heard is that actually
was and in some cases, their biggest concern. So. One of the things maybe I learned with years of experience is that. I can be Right? That's
what I think. Maybe it's motivating factor for a family or community might not be. And I think what's important about this process is that as a
board all of your meetings to menace amount of time that you then the students not just staff but, you know, we listened. And we thought in
reflective what we heard and I think that's important to model as well. So what I guess I would say is where we can remove those moving forward.
You And we shouldn't do it just for a data point. If it isn't something that's going to work for children and
families. Dr. Anderson. >> Thank you. I do want to start off by saying thank you to the BRAC committee members. I know everybody already said
staff's eye. I will also say that, but I want to take little time and really highlight those community members who for no additional pay, not part of their job
devoted hours and hours and hours to this work. Not just the with on the committee, but the work that they also engage and when they came back into
the community. And I think we have one person here from the Brack mischievous era is there. I don't know if there's others, but thank you for that
long dedication. Speaking of the Brat Committee, the skeleton crew to which Fired and this document. Have you
given any thought yet in terms of its composition would be the exact same members or how is that going to be determined in order to still have
geographical representation? So we've asked for an initial interest. >> And I was pleasantly surprised that a lot of people. interested so I think
it was hard work it. And its own way was hard work well. I would say that committee worked very well together and have tremendously diverse
perspectives. I think you're proud of much of what's been on I will get back to you with
the composition stolen process of buttoning and then getting the western boundary. this would start next year. No,
thank you. Absolutely. And also given that the 4 areas from the boundary policy that had to be followed, it seems as if we really landed on.
>> Enrollment capacity being the driver of at least this go around. >> I think they were the predominant drivers. I don't want to remind the board my
mind, those watching at home that we launched boundary process about 18 8, And during
that process, we bought a noose high school. And also. Not yummy. And fairly recently, I was directed to provide a plan for middle
school, AP programs in every middle school. Which are these are good things right? So and yet they do. And they do have
an intersection with this process. So I think as we think about program placement being one of the floor. If we're going to end up with and
a piece entered every middle school, signed it. And that's going to be key part of kind thinking ahead tonight will say Mister Dunn. And I at the
Lorton Station meeting recently. So what I've had an opportunity to think about or what would be those middle schools As I come to you in March of the plan that need to
be first up and the fact that we're sending middle school AP students from station like chronic. Makes no sense, right? So if we can be if
we're moving them, if they're going feel that they're going to stay in that pyramid, that's where we need to place a the spot sooner than later. Right? So I feel like I have a
program for suspected of as part of my context. We also want to be moving kids if we're going to end up creating programs because we want to move children twice. Sure. So
I think that the program peace was there as part of the context. But you're right, the capacity. Proximity yes with us full disclosure, we writing
the boundary. That's what I needed to be the driver because we're not going to add programs where there's no space. >> Yes, so it just is the most
logical thing to do. >> brings me to my next point Inter and I hate to look ahead while we're still trying to figure this part out, it's not yet a done deal.
>> But I had a wandering and looking through some of the schools that now are falling significantly below capacity. We've already had some that exist, but there have been some others now based on the
readjustment for tennis islands. But feeders. I would want to know at the appropriate time. What is the thinking for those schools? And, you know, I have a few
that I noted here that are really in low 70's. And these are schools in spaces that I think would be right for preschool programming because
I've always had the concern. One of the schools in my community weigh the entire 5th grade was put outside in trailers. So that we could. I
include preschool programming, which is serving the students nearby. >> But I wonder if there was another school that was close by that had low capacity.
Could we then move those programs there in order to bring those K 5 kids back into the building. So I'm really interested in. What is our
general plan with those schools that are significantly under capacity? One of the things I want to pivot and talk about our obviously my
community schools and I did appreciate Mr. Gordon, talking about how with. Can I finish a sentence in the 5? Going to go
back? I appreciate Mr. Gordon talked about how those schools were part of some board directives. I saw the work. It
coats. It's beautiful at 89%. But I want to be sure that I shared that the work at Parklawn. The you describe were just with the modular
with that the modular there's still significant overcrowding. So I will pause here and ask will go back. Thank you, Doctor. Anderson,
as here. So I guess I have 2 buckets of questions and comments. One is the general and the approach and then the other is specific things that 100 constituents have asked
me. >> And it's it's just kind of curious that we're going to get these details right here. And now I'm also feeling like it's up to U.S. members to
clarify these questions. It just doesn't seem like it planned full as I would hope like I'm looking to be briefed on what you're saying. So I
guess I will start with the general questions. I think. I think you know we talked a little bit about Western, but we need to understand how the
decisions today intersect that and more is there anyone being changed in these recommendations who could be then changed again? Not for
the next year or the year after the 3rd year. Like for the fall of 26. But knowing that it's an opt in and the western boundary won't kick in
as required until the 3rd year is not correct. I believe so. It's opt-in opt-out. >> And boundary in year 3.
That's correct. So so let me be clear. Are there any resident sees? >> Proposed to be change for school boundaries in your recommendation that in 3 years
could be required to be bound, read into Western. I don't believe so. I have questions
about specific recommendations that I had, which again, in hindsight, it. >> I would like to be celebratory that this has been a very robust process and as I shared my email to on Sunday
after receiving an advanced copy of the materials. The wave compiled the, you know, number of split feeders, reducing attendants and tenants islands like and the capacity info. That's really
great stuff. And I would love to, you know, celebrate that. I also just need to understand. About more about the changes to the assignments like Tysons Green. I just I
can from my understanding, Tysons Green. So this is a neighborhood and impact on slide. 21 20 21 is the high school slide. So Tysons Green
is currently assigned to Marshall. I learned from constituents thread that you were e-mailing about that priority high school flexibility will occur for
Tysons Green families for the fall of 26. And families can see flexibility for mass and student. To go to Madison. Is that a correct understanding?
Correct. The boundaries not being changed. community still is beyond. Read to Marshall. >> But we believe based on the number of families in that
neighborhood that there will still be room about a sense of we would start with them is a priority transfer Madison, but not for the middle school
because we're not able or a is overcapacity. So we can't make it clean feeder and it would be treated as a transfer as far as transportation as well.
But they would have to provide their own transportation. Yes. So what additionally the constituent ask a question of will the priority transfer be treated as a standard transfer
for Marshall to Madison about mandatory AP classes and no sports in the first year or will they be transferring as if they had been zoned to Madison? And I shared
constituent that that question hasn't been answered Mr. Horne and the team are working through that because DHS also has new rules around transfers and ask why my question was
answered by you on Sunday asking the same things. I don't know. Yes, I didn't get it to you. I think we got an
answer to yesterday. How should those in Tysons Green who opt to go to Madison, communicate this change to the counter staff because right now the Raiders are picking
courses. Is their paperwork that they should fill out. We're going to be in touch with the principles this week about them. So this will be my
last thought. Please provide us with that information because as you can see, as I said before, the community turns to the school board for answers. And we're trying to
partner with you in this work. Missing John County. >> So first of all, I want to thank everyone that worked on
this. This was a monumental project and I actually want to thank my colleagues for initiating this work. I know that when we first got together, we all said this is
something that has been a long time coming. There's a lot of conversation about whether we should or shouldn't do I've within the system for 26 years and I've seen the issues
involved with. Consistently not addressing boundary issues. So I'm really proud that we've taken this on. I'm
proud of the process where we decided that if we were going to do it individually, that wasn't going to because then there would be to force between us. And that we handed it over to our very capable
staff that he's immense work. I appreciate that. You listened. And that we all listened and that we all learned there are some people that will say this is a gone
this is not gone far enough. But I think that. The thoughtful approach. And listening to communities and
getting communities adjusted 2. The idea that this is something we're going to consistently do is important. I know that was some my
constituents. I've had to explain to them when they have said, well, why wasn't with Peter moved in? It's like when when you look at some specific
situations, there's competing priorities. It's like. The schools are at capacity. So where are we going to put these kids see this we can't eliminate the split, Peter. And I know that that was
difficult because we gave you. >> Instructions that sometimes with conflict. And I appreciate again, the thoughtful approach that Done
with all that that that was really the comment that I wanted to make. I actually was at Lewis High School this morning speaking to staff and speaking to students. I do
know that. The community's concern about having. A larger student population has been voiced, but he's also been
voiced to me very strongly is we don't want you to boundary people to come to our school that don't want to be here. We would rather not have them here. And I think that that's
where we listen. And I think that's where we work on getting the right kind of programming there. >> Make it a place where people want to be. And that's
my goal. And I've been working very closely with that community because as much as the say, they want a bigger school. They have very vehemently told me we do not want people that do not want
to be here. That's what we start to listen. And so I think we've got some good ideas but we we can develop
for Lewis and looking at the transfer. But overall. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
>> I'm picking up from my colleagues. Thank you. Thank you again for For this of comprehensive owned review and
we these was new in the board, like many us and idea of doing incomprehensible and review was leaving overwhelming because it was not done for 40 years. And you took that challenge into the boards
directions for for it thing for the team. And also I would like to encourage, you know, appreciate the patterns and the community members. You
I've read a few of meetings in my district the parents have been very supportive, a respectful. The conversations have being, you know, nothing
was, you know, nobody was yelling and shouting in any of those meeting, even the if they're upset. So it just shows the majority community
as a general. There are most so You know, districts have even know it well, and people are flee. Happy, some are
going to come tomorrow. I guess if they have any effect in green issues what's being addressed. But I would say that this board has taken up
this task. And I'm I'm hoping that we have this kind of bond review doesn't have to happen for the next and you know, any any other time just keep this. A overview and and just move
move forward. So our community doesn't have to. What are your boat? Just continuous changes. So appreciate this. Thank you so much. Doctor. Eat be seeing
and hearing tomorrow at Science Center. Dave, thank you. >> Thank That your for the presentation. I want to
comment upon you. Police anymore comes. Even talking way too much tonight should be. You see the kick you rest.
Since of the and would have to ask a few questions. He says he's flying them. But 37. My number. 37. The future review.
The I-Team has which are marked. Listed for the future review. Is it possible for you provide Wynonna people consider right now for each
one of them, it could be the same reason, you know, out of time, I mean, if you could probably to respond that, you better. And or since asking
for each one of these. The and or so why DC's be? We'll keep you in the future. It would be h*** for from you. Respond to the employees from the
communities will. question is will maybe concern about the final in the future? Yes. That's common West. Second
ease the you know, I'm not a surprise that Focused on capacity in Rome and cows that has been consistent to the practice by the former boys.
look at that. Look at the capacity as the major driver to make the just minds. What I have a lot of questions of we
need these correct me if I am wrong about. When we would beauty school. AP senators is that. We the work session in
March. But this year. >> The directive received from the Board of Visitors to bring you a plan. By March 2020 state to up Ryan. And then of
course. >> board board to a justice costs and make the decision is line. we do it when that's going to be implemented. The center. If the board one stat
to be implemented in August. That's going to affect. lot he's so perhaps pulled me not
do that. If the Bullard make a decision to do it to lay down. To the far OU 2027. We still don't it was 200 affect a lot
of these boundaries. That is my assumption. And my my way off with those assumptions. >> would never say that Mr. My
I would say is. However responded, I think to Dr Anderson earlier as well, which is. There is an
intersection on the middle school eap and this work. >> When I come in March, I can almost guarantee you it's going to be a phased plan. There's no way we can add.
Every middle school program in the same year is we have credentialed teachers, you know, and be thoughtful in our plans. So I think they will see several a year for a
couple of years. And what I was trying to do is those. Sitting down with staff to look at the boundary recommendations would be to try to make sure I'm threading
the program planned with that boundary work, which is a sure the example with Mr Down and I were dealing with we're we're actually transfer its all the way to Lake Braddock instead of to their secondary school.
They're going attend. I think that we're able to. They're going to be some of those changes that will be much cleaner than others. But as we run the numbers for what
happens if we keep students at their school, it's going to shift. The capacity again at the middle schools, which will inform the next 5 year review.
So you're correct. >> I thank. Thank Dr. one more
question. Ease. Do we? I have a list. He found the dog just moons. Potential bound to do
just months from the tsunami. And number which I'm not. Deflected and you and Asians, some of them may and the same
list. Page number 27 for the future review. Up to the point now, which from the scene full. Part of your final
recommendations completely >> I don't know if I could do all of that tonight, but I can make sure we have for you, I don't expect you to the tonight if you could, I as you
provide the re 2 responses questions, if you could or so. >> Inclu we sponsor this inquest. Appreciate that. >> Yes, has a particularly
term and that is your time, one, OK? So then had go back ease. I'm going wait until after the public hearing to ask him why technical
questions. >> Thank you. And I wanted to sure to make sure I thanked staff. On alleviating Coats
and again, when I look at this line, the capacity changes, I guess is the main thing there's there was no modular coats. So with this, these changes, I assume that all of
those learning cottages will be removed from the campus.
Mr. We have a team in the facilities office that are preventing us there listening and providing answers.
>> You know, just want to say, well, waiting for the answer. We've got people here effect of the facilities, offices, an all hands on deck activity.
And I couldn't be prouder of the teams with this. We will need to monitor development in and around Coats. Miller is I
asked because of the capacity really is going to go from 103, 86%. There's no notation here related to. >> Learning trailers. Cottages
the guidance is clear every bit every effort we can to get rid of modular units in trailers full. >> Is our intent. Your intent? So so I guess my question is.
Does that one 37 to 86% include. It does because there's no notation next to it. Granted, we can come back with a cancer. So makes full
look at capacity programs. Analysis. Okay. So for sure. Some are going way. I can all of them. But yes, okay. I just if you could be But this lady things we need to have a
number next to Yeah, yes, ma'am. So the other thing I want us to say is it want to thank my colleague who openness. I think Mr. First in an excellent job explaining
sort of like how enter wind this work is. I appreciate the honesty from you regarding learning right? Because that's what we're in the business of
his learning. And I think we learned a lot. I also think the intersectionality of Western high school. Our request for 80 P. Cohorts are
centers in all of our middle schools is intertwined. And when I studied what I I appreciate my colleagues question about. Potential kids who are going to be found read
in 3 years or to whatever the timing is to Western currently being moved here. And certainly my study of all these, it didn't look like that was going case. very much appreciate that answer we
don't want move students twice but it also points to why the move at the high school level is under 600 kids so I
appreciate that. I also am excited that this work will continue and we will be doing this. You know, every 5 years been building up to it because I think it does take time. is
my other colleagues have said I understand you know. Capacity was a priority. I certainly hope that we will get to all 4 aspects of the
policy in the next generation and, you know, I think the other thing that that I certainly delighted in was. I did speak to any constituents
who are asking to get out of their school. Nobody called me and said, please move me out of my school. And it's fascinating. I just went up
with that because there were some disparaging thing said. >> And pains me. And that's part of the after paper about the fact that we're going lay some groundwork and say we're not going to spirit any other school or person or
neighborhood because that's how we do. But what was delightful was nobody asked to be moved out of their place because I think that that says is what every place every
school in in our county is its own hidden gem. And when you step foot inside, you recognized that the wonder that's there and the learning that's there. you know, that makes me proud to be part of this board. So again, thank
you for this hard work. Wilson. I'm gonna take a very fast turn. And I have to admit that I was one of those people that. >> Look at the final recommendations. And I said,
man, I wish that we had done more. And then I thought about what I am told constituents the entire time during this process is that it took us 40 years to create this problem
over time. And it's going hopefully doesn't take us 40 years to get out. But it's going to take us while and so what I love about this and what I'm most hopeful is that
what we've learned is that we need to keep going. And we've learned that this is the first step in a very iterative process and we can't stop
again. And so I am grateful for the fact that the board looked ahead to in conclude that entered a process in the policy so that we can keep going and that we can use this
as an opportunity talk to parents about what they've learned through this process. What we've learned through this process and how we can make it better for the next time. Because I agree
transparency is messy. I mean, we we. We let people come along and watch how everything was being done. And that is an uncomfortable thing. When you're trying to untangle something that's so interwoven
here. One thing I will say is that I don't know that we have the list of of areas that still need to be addressed all the way complete. And so I do anticipate that I will bring
some sort of follow on that adds. it would in my district that I think is the one. If nothing else we need to have on our radar, which I know we already do. But I think that
putting it in. The decision, I think is an important aspect of this. So right now. My most contentious area and my entire
district was the West Springfield community. It is the tightest boundary of almost any high school. We have. It's over capacity and no one wants to move. I
watched throughout the 18 months. The concern move around the school just in the circle and no one wanted to move any of those kids out of
that school. And there were no good solutions because it like I said, school was renovated in 2019 Titus boundary. We've got and so I appreciate the fact that we took a measured
approach here. I think that I agree with the community that we need to keep an eye on what's going on with capacity there I. Don't anticipate that what what is being seen in the
numbers is necessarily going to turn up. But I think that it's worth it to watch. So it's going to be one of those areas that I think that we need to keep going with watching just to make sure that if there is capacity
relief that can be provided to that school because we've done everything else, I think that that is a spot where we might take to keep watching. So but I am grateful for work of the
team. I am grateful for the fact that you willing to go along with this with us is that I understand that this was a monumental undertaking and you haven't paused a single moment and said, man,
we shouldn't do this. What you said is this is important work and we need to keep going so I appreciate the fact that you took that approach with us rather than anything else that
could happen. So we have a couple people for go backs. So we're going to start off with Mr. Fresh. One thing that I think would be helpful in the
future. >> In 2023, I went through all of the cip that we've had since I've been on the board just to see what kind of progress we've made on trailers and modular county
wide and Providence district particular and I was able to find that we reduce the number of trailers in Providence district by about 25% over that for 5 year period, the
number was roughly the same for the entire county a little bit lower. It was higher for Providence because we had a lot of big schools that have been renovated and that 5 year period. So when they lost
their trailers after the projects were completed, obviously they. because the renovations happening or because it's been a while since renovation. So could be
helpful to get that information because I do think just anecdotally scanning through the documents that would show us that there's around a 20% drop in the number of trailers over the last 5 years in Fcps. That's
gonna be different from region to region school to school. But overall, it's still going in the right direction. So I want to applaud that. I want to talk a little bit about and I also want to echo the
comments about arbery see members. They. Were phenomenal and responsive and very much appreciated want to talk a little bit about the after
action report and particularly. How you see engaging folks who eyes on
this project feedback can be used to improve practices going forward is what I keep telling people is like one of the best accomplishments of this go around is yes, it's
good to see that we make the progress on the boundaries showing people that we can do it. And that its and then it's responsive to community feedback. You know, in some
areas you just get a letter in the mail that says where you practice will next year. Usually the place you went before but we're going to have to do a cultural reset here where people get used the idea
that this is an ongoing iterative process. So how do you engage people who are watching very closely and we'll have the most input, valuable input to offer. So is
that a question? >> I think we're going to have to actually. Finish the process and also get the the
Western high school process But I think this summer as we >> you everyone gets their lives back. The Post Foundry.
Lives. I think will need to over the course of the spring develop plan for how we would do that. So I be I know it's
that high interest point. So perhaps share a draft later the spring and get some feedback from the board from the advisory committee. And
the community. But I think you know, all the voices that participated in the great hear from them about that's a
moving forward. Dr. Anderson. Thank speak a little bit in terms of how tightly or loosely coupled.
>> Your recommendations are as compared to what the committee recommended the BRAC. >> I would say they're fairly
close and probably some exceptions. And I would be remiss if I didn't share this because my community's frustrated, you know, as Mister Gordon raised earlier. >> You know, the Braddock
part, I'm sorry, the Glasgow Park line. We're supposed to be part. They were separate motions by the board like Coats and yet scenario. 1, 2, 3, came and went nothing for
those community scenario for came nothing for the community's. We ended up in what I've been envisioning or talk calling Mike 4 plus and it didn't come with the same provisions as the others. It
didn't come with the same time table. The explore a tool did not have the information the time to get feedback and the community outreach. That was a big miss, although I I think
the what was provided are reasonable. The presentation, the rollout of that, it was a big miss for that community. And there's a lot of does a lot of resentment about that.
So I just want to make sure that that's said to you here because I know we've talked about this before. Given that now we know that there's 2200
students to be moved. I hope that your analysis of transportation can include that exact number or what that has a has a higher and as because we know some people
will make different decisions. So I'm looking forward to that. When we start talking about the transportation peace. I would also want to ask about the school's that
you flagged for the future brenmar part. What is it that you're thinking there? So I think Mr. Moon be creating a paragraph or
>> each of those items about why. Why flag them what the intent But I think we're in Moore Park. One of the things
we looked at was that we heard that they felt that an Adele is too far to be moved. And we had suggested Lewis be closer.
We didn't really have time at that point. It didn't feel respectful thoughtful to try to move forward. But we do want to start earlier and
engaging the community to talk through. If and was too far. a better option? And we also wanted to give on say an opportunity to think about
what programs we're going to be siting at Lewis. So the reason they're on the watch is we've got to very intentional from the get-go to make sure that connecting with that
community. And if you know, trying to make that determination between Annandale focus. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. But in the van and was
it has been said when that was discussed, the community was vehemently against it. So I want to make sure that I raise that. And also there was that conversation of 3.95, east and
west. There was certainly a divide there regarding distance. The Annandale high school. So hopefully that is all part of your future discussions one of the
questions that I've been asked by community members as what should be their expectation based on the public hearing. People are going to come out and offer testimony. Some people feel that it's just
going to fall deaf ears and it will have no bearing. I'd like for you to speak to that. Yes, ma'am. the public hearing is the board's hearings. So 8.
>> My expectation would be that if we hear something that. You know, gives us pause, there's a better idea
we've made here or there's something that could be improved. You know, we're going to be there taking notes. And, you know, we want to get this right. I don't
have any ego up this. a really about making sure that these are the very foundries that we student learning and communities and neighborhoods.
So I would encourage people if they feel like there's something that doesn't we can improve in the recommendations to share. And if not able to
come Saturday, you know, send in >> can you also articulate the specificity? That was a new e-mail because I know in my community there were some there was some confusion
individuals were not able to sign up for Saturday, we allowing them to come to the cip to speak about boundaries as well. Yes, ma'am, it's my understanding people can sign
up for the cip public hearing which will be Tuesday evening. >> Up until 4.30, tomorrow Friday night. And the there
will be an opportunity for overflow is what referred to in note, overflow boundary feedback. >> Dr Reid can also really quickly is that we also allow
certain people like people can come to that to public hearing on Saturday and actually sign up in person. We reserve. No,
no fewer than 5 spots. But there is room with The capacity for for that hearing to add more people. Sure. But the reason that I really wanted to share this, it's the point that I made earlier the
community for the Parkland, Glasgow piece. It was not in the Laura tool. So people did not even know like. >> I my and that S P 8 pack. They don't know what that is.
It's like some people can very easily see, but others that are on the border, they really needed to have the opportunity to plug in their address to see the impact and they were not able to do that until last
night. After the public hearing closed. So that's what
that's why there's a lot of is that another question? No, I did not ask the question. I just made a statement and then I think Mister Frisch talked
about the Falls Church because I also have that as an inquiry just wanted to make sure that we share with people. That is the now number, not the post
renovation capacity. Yes, ma'am. I can confirm that. Mr. Dunn. Thank you. I wanted to
ask if you could please comment on the full that refers to Foreign Station Elementary Louisville Elementary >> Tense them and change. Just provide some context for my constituents.
>> Is this on the flight? So it's yes. Okay. Yes, Mr. Dunn, I my intent is to come back to the board in January of 27. So a year from now with a
recommendation related to the neighborhoods in that area and specifically our handle circle neighborhood because it feels like we need to be really
thoughtful about how we move forward because there is a complex ask there. It wasn't just providing a shorter transportation for Eagle
Circle, but also. Consideration of the late Fred AKP. possible better. Excuse
me, different connection with South County. So for us to be thoughtful, we really wanted to do that as thoughtful conversation. And it's going
to take us about a year to process that. We've also heard that recently. There was thought put forward that maybe there was. Part of the
neighborhood that might be closer to Laurel Hill that would create more room for students to be it Lorton station. So for this one year
we're going to be providing them Hance transportation for her legal circles. Students who attend how only for couple back if necessary. And I've
also asked to it, look into the possibility of adjusting the start time. So traffic would keep Traffic wouldn't be
such a significant issue for him circle drive think might be able to shorten the driver Justin School time. So we're trying to mitigate issues for this one here. And also the
opportunity, maybe think about path they could be cut through. I know we've had a lot of discussion on the maps, I had enough to meet with all
the principals involved, not Laurel Hill. The other 3 constantly written regional system. Superintendents, our Central Office staff, Dr Ponce
that you kidding. And I think there's a real commitment to get this right. just make sure that we don't rush. We've
waited 40 hears. 41 is okay. But we're really committed to coming up with a solution involving the community this coming back to January. 27,
thank I want to also ask there had been some discussion during the early and mid part of the founder of you about. >> Moving 6th grade into
middle school. Ultimately that's not part of recommendation, but I wanted to ask you what your what your thinking is on that long term. And there are schools like
Ryan Park that our K through 5. And then at one point there is discussion about moving them into Lewis, which is, you know, 7, 8, for from emotional
key. So, you know, it does create complexity when we have some middle schools that are 6 through 8 and others that are 7, 8, And I was warning if you have any thoughts, long-term
about weather that experiment has the very first community meeting in Glasgow, Middle School, community term that was intended to be transitional to all middle
schools. You know, 2 decades ago, becoming 6 throughout 6 through 8. That didn't happen. So should that experiment continue indefinitely? Which makes boundary changes very
difficult for schools between and among held Glasgow homes and the surrounding schools. Or should that experiment be the wound down? some point? I think And in my opinion, it's
a preferred model to have 6 grade and middle school 6, 7, 8, >> I think it's space constrained right now for us unless we use whole buildings differently. I think as we
look at our enrollment demographic, some of the next couple years, I think we will hopefully see patterns of the naval at that occur and
spaces. But right now we're space constraints. But you're right. adds another element complexity.
>> I'd just like to ask since it has been discussed, it's never been formally presented to school board as a recommendation as a presentation during a work session. If if if there could be something brought to the school board. So there could
be a decision made because it is a big and consequential thing. does complicate our school band or views which will be happening every 5 years. At least. So if there
can be some formal decision made that with your recommendation, that would be helpful just to establish a direction for us, at least. >> Yes, I think that actually make sense. Thank sir. I
shouldn't say actually, does make sense. So >> Thank you both to Dre Mr. Burt and Sir, thank you so much for this portion of the
presentation we are going to move on on 2. 0, 2 academic matters. So icon. I conduct or
heat for academic matters. >> All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. And I'm gonna have some staff support this as well. I
want to start by just giving a couple data points and I'm gonna turn this over to Mr. 70 Doctor King. You know, I know
there's concern around our partnership with OpenAI. And I also want to share that. In thinking about the work that doing here in this
partnership. It is important to note. Currently research indicates that 72% of teens in
our amazing country. Are using AI have used AI companions. With really no guidance direction in General. And
really no safety guardrails around as today. A 3rd of those students who have used an AI companion actually find
it more. Satisfying men are human conversations and relationships, which I find very concerning. Perhaps the most concerning is that a
quarter of those? So used AI companions have shared private information. But those AI companions. And so when I think about that date and I share that with our us. But
it's an RT specs as we are developing training for the adults. Only adults in our school division. We as adults have to better I to make sure
we provide clear direction and guidance to our children. Most adults who are educators, operational staff right now in the school division did not
have as part of their educational preparation. So it's critical that we partner with. professional group that
can provide the training, the awareness where with fall for our staff to understand these tools. So that we here in Fairfax County, Public Schools
can shape this conversation and not be shaped by the tools. So I am. You can do
that. We must do that. Actually. And we must continue to do it in a measured and Tom full one a. And we're going to be very measured in our approach disciplined in our
approach. And we're going to continue moving forward on this time because our children need us to know more about it, to provide thoughtful guidance. So recently, From
that we did this training and Dr King. Mr. Sethi Presidio that Riley were on a panel.
Just one more drink minimum step aside. I want to say that. Important that were
intentional about this topic. It's obvious why Mister set the and that Presidio would be involved in this rate economics and it. I want you to know that it's just as
essential to King's involved because equity and access for are young people in every school, not just schools where the adults are excited about learning about this. But we have to make this and every
school proposition. And so I've been very proud of the team for their collaborative approach turn it over to them this evening. Thank you, Dr
Reid and get evening Most part. We're here today to shape to share updates on our AI implementation work Fcps. And I want to say that.
>> I'm really, really excited about this work in the opportunities for open access for our students when it comes to to the integration of AI. And yes, we know that we're talking about the adults right
now that our students are already using AI. So it's important for adults to be trained so that we can support our students when we're ready
to go that route. While this work matters. Now. We believe that this is our spot. Sputnik moment. We as a nation as educators need to acknowledge
the world around us is changing faster and ever than ever before. Jack Welch, chairman of GE believe companies must adapt quickly to change or face failure.
Famously stating change before you have to. For us as a nation to be globally competitive over the coming decades, we must start building a deep understanding
of emerging AI technologies. Only with the understanding what we as educators to be able to thoughtfully integrate AI into our curriculum. Our
guiding principles create a starting point where innovation hoops. Excuse me. Can next slide, please? I'm sorry. Our guiding principles create a starting point where
innovation must the line with what matters most human connection, legal standards and ethical practices. In this journey, we can choose to
collaborate with the top AI labs building in shaping the learning tools to always protect our children from the harms and the biases that can
happen. And and and be or be passive partners. And ensuring that our thinking as educators is reflective in the tools we enable our children to
interact with them. It procurement and legal teams ensure that for any AI tool reaches the classroom. It goes through our vendor evaluation cycle. Privacy is
non-negotiable for compliance is first always. SEP also requires excuse me Fcps also requires vendors with access to student data commit to fcps
data, privacy agreements. This is a fast process like Dr Read, said it's intentional. Our team has had multiple engagement with the community
on this topic over the past year. On October 7, the school board hosted a work session where we discussed the topic and that. Our leadership team
along with external experts provided updates, responded to school board inquiries. Represent or shared ways in which AI is continuously and fundamentally transforming our
world affecting both the workplace force in education. I want to. Take a moment to share that Sam from OpenAI during his presentation shared
how you can use the tool to have a conversation with apparent about their kid in whatever language we need them to have. And in that moment, I was reflecting of my time principal and how I would have
to wait for my parent liaison or the support services to be able to have those conversations and how exciting it would be for parents to be able to communicate with them in the moment using a tool so
effectively. Following the school board work session. Our it team work to set up a public night on the topic of AI on November 3rd and many of you were there. We hosted our
first community event meeting the moment. The event hosted an interactive expo where the community explore innovative AI tools. Dr Reid also shared
our strategy and thinking around AI tools, evaluations and all approved actuals must undergo again critically. The tagline that emerge which
continues to define our work CPS is meeting the moment with AI leading with humanity. I'll turn it over to. We want to
highlight next slide. We want to highlight the key partners bringing meeting at knowledge East Fcps. >> Google with his unwavering commitment to providing safe
and secure AI tools that builds upon a deep and longstanding partnership with them. Play lab, which focuses on creating with AI, which is different than concealing with AI and defying student
imagination. 5 innovation and this product and the capability. Dre mention, though, is going to materialize when students come to in the competition that has been really excited about. have such innovative ideas in
the hopper right now. This is in mid-February. Everyone is all this accent and right. It is a public event and the last one charge of a team for teachers which materialize this December his awards and a
gpt designed for education institutions by ties privacy and security for education news. As we've mentioned, oia and we want to 70 committed to it again honoring those who have access to sensitive data
must commit to fcps student privacy to climb ends and have gone to really go in for interviews before they can be brought into the in Miami to news with a student data. Next
slide. Staff training opportunities. We want to be capacity for this walk and we must invest substantially in staff training with the
initial update provided as optional staff faced an online training. We are now rapidly providing working to provide targeted training opportunities for keep tech support staff schools. We just
mentioned earlier on January 6, which was actually this Tuesday we hosted a new man, Florida experts and specs. We had this opportunity to be ready for them and share some training. We'll also be doing
some of the training for bringing you fatty sharply and the next day, 06:00PM. By blending these facets. We have bridging that gap between knowing and doing. We'll continue to scale up training
for a dozen shooting a season of war. So and supporting all of CPS next slide. We're also
excited and a to the ship. We will be forming a fcps think high-impact advise party that report it to the
superintendent. We need to recognize leaders from diverse feeds business, academia, ethics, technology, and community advocacy to participate in this. And we joined them in. doing
something unprecedented together. The National Margolin education that puts
humanity first. Thank you guys for going to kick things off. >> With Dr Anderson then
Mystics it. Thank you. very few comments, as I should gotten a reader in many conversations. You know, I'm very excited about this possibility. This is a thing that,
>> you know, you could really change so much of the way that we do business. And I'm always looking for ways to reduce the Now, teachers, particularly because we're asking them to do more and more. also I'm
very guilty. I use AI just about every day as of the last probably 6. >> 5, 6, months or so. >> I live with the person who's been using it every day
for years and their organization has devoted. Many, many resources in order to do that. Well, and when I was asked that, well, what's
your what's your AI Department might? We don't have an AI Department. We have it to 5 Monday. He's live with different things. If you don't have an AI Department that's going to connected to
instruction connected to planning, connected to even it. You're not doing this right, but we're also not Lockheed Martin. We don't have, you know, 15 million dollars and up into an AI
department. So I realize that on the other hand, we have this concern that has been growing and growing with parents who reading about how kids are involving themselves
with Chad boxes and then they're self harming and they're not engaging. And that's the worry. That's the balance that we need to walk.
And we have teachers who want nothing to do with AI because they are very concerned about academic integrity. We have some that are ready to get started. But what we need to
be in this moment, I think in order to bring everyone along with us, it's a have way more clarity without parents. We are saying that there's we're going to go. Measure. We're
going to be measured and thoughtful. Nobody knows what that means. What they are hearing right now, which I can't necessarily a counter is
that teachers are going to use AI and it's going to trickle somehow to my kids. And I don't know what that is. What is that measured approach? What is that? The awful approach articulate that so
people can see. And of course, you have the added measure of people being very concerned, the pup parts of the public and they've been here since December. We're very concerned
about groups that we are partnering partnering with and perhaps the lack of structure, the lack of guardrails. Those
are the things that I think we need to take off before we move forward. But I'll pause and hear your thoughts. Yeah. Thank you for raising that. We're also in the process of
crafting an AI website. >> Presence that will be able to articulate responses to much of what you've raised.
>> And I it Let's we're able to. Got them talk a little bit about that for just. >> Yeah. So couple of things
in terms of upside, right? We recognize that a penance need probably as much support. Every family has someone who's been devoted this. So that is a lot of understanding and sometimes lack off. And our
goal is to be able to pay to fit in community. Place within come in and get online courses and possibly engage with the family engagement groups and learning about I in general.
And you can see the invention Edinburgh cannot focus on getting Dodgers and the system chained up. That will lead off on most any organization, as
you recognize with the offense and experiences, it's somewhat of a jacket experience people who use it jacket in terms of it's not straight and smooth that those who use it and get acceleration and can start
moving much faster with the work they have and that those were waiting to kind of learn about it and then a flight to it. Our goal is to try and smooth and that experience with are demanding. Lots of
for staff to come in and sit in on Conflict can certainly do that. But 5 restrictions in terms of what we can put in forward in front of a staff is needed by the time that's available. So it's a balancing
act between how can we introduced him to this technology? And not his them and they use it across the board. >> I understand that. But I
think this is a space with the tail is wagging the dog a little bit. We've gone out of the gate without that communication that we just spent several hours talking about. This is a piece where I
don't think we've been as intentional. About the parent engagement awareness. Yes, engagement feedback. I don't think we have gotten there we
could do a little bit better to partner so that we don't have this kind of resistance that is moving forward. When teachers are utilizing this. What does this mean? Again,
one of the guardrails, what teachers, you legs this just for themselves and nothing will come to teacher to students. Are parents going to be able to opt out if they do not want or they're not yet
comfortable with how we're rolling this out in order to have their children not participate. Is that an option? >> So first and foremost, I
think we've. We have had several community communications around the topic of AI. We had our meeting the moment, community
event. I've sent a note out about her OpenAI partnership to families and school division. And right now our rollout is limited to only the
adults in the school division period. As we continue to develop that work with the adults will be made will be providing more communication
well before. >> He'll be any student. A instruction that would be connected any way to the adults are doing tonight. I
think a lot of the questions you're asking will be determined prior to those decisions around the type of rollout. >> If I were a parent right now, boy, I'm a parent. But I mean, if I was a parent of a
high school student of a middle school student right now, >> far more concerned about what I don't know that my student is doing I because I
think even our staff was surprised to realize 72% based on research teenagers in the United States right now have a ready either experiment or are
using an AI companion. So you know, without guidance from educators or direction, maybe without even the knowledge of their parent. So I think that
it's very important that we contemplate had a really understand these tools as educators make sure that we're being thoughtful with for our
families and our young people to keep them safe. I will also say that we're hearing from parents regularly that one but want instruction that whole
rate are feeling like in some ways we're spending a lot of time trying to decide how to talk with students about AI because it might be dangerous
when they're already using at and our kids are saying, you know, Dr Reid were already they can show me 10 different ways right there. Using AI to create study sheets are using
AI to do role model. And you know, you guys you know what they're using in foreign. So. We're still trying to talk about how to talk about it to
And so I really think that. We're going to have to sort of move off the sidelines and back into the game here in terms of shaping our night. I.
Certainly take I appreciate feedback on the communication and prior to any move toward students guaranteed. We're going to be doing a lot more. appreciate that. In 2 things
can be too at the same time because I'm kind of there our community. Is there. >> But I also want to make sure we're not complaining communication with engagement when we're sending things out
one way, there's really no structured space for that feedback to be received. Giving you lots of food for thought. But again, as we are.
Rolling this out because, yes, we have got to get started because this has been moving along. We have to decide, however, CPS will be engaging. But we need to also be very
clear with our community. What is it that teachers are going to do and what is going to be that impact to your child? And do you have a voice to say,
yes, I want my child to engage and no, I do not want my child to engage. I think that will reduce a lot of angst. Thank
you, Doctor Anderson Mystic's it. Thank you for the presentation. I don't know what the angst about the whole board is using AI specially
and more than dozen of countries. In fact, China money to buy leagues who went to China for the conference data came in mention that China way ahead of us. Many,
many, many, many steps ahead. are you going to be fearful and stay back or, know, take the lead and and go former just and be the leader that
the Fairfax County is. I'm very supportive of this this initiative, especially for educators. you can support them anyway. We can reduce
their workload. Almost is like, you know, giving them extra to just like, you even writing e-mails, using Gemini and tried to be It just seems like little bit of time to
formulate the email better than just typing it up, and proofreading it and all that stuff. So. I almost feel like that on Doctor King, you made
the comment that you doctor the and right in that language. And translation can happen. You can save so much time and lot of our Hispanic to be speaking community. That
shows, you know, could benefit out of that, which is, you know, to constantly do need for us later and made for them. I. On most want in the
future that that we have customize that planning for each student the way they are. They can learn and that get help for that. As you every student learns differently. We
have right now. One basically package for all. This is the direction I think we will go as as as a nation that he added the use and much more
things than what we are just seeing right now. Also, I'm excited and I want to see us of progressing in that direction. Then I just had a question to you, sir. Say
Sam's like, you know, him and personal basis. >> I know, Sam was that the
representative from OpenAI? Oh, >> I will. nevertheless, I want no, not. That families Thank you so Thank you.
>> This >> Thank you. I'm you know, talk to in this tournament as mayor and I have you on the list. You could. It's okay if you're restarted.
>> Okay after me, OK, thank you. Like financial management and capital facilities needs to become part of our regular cadence of work for the school board. There's no question
fcps must address the role of AI in all aspects of our school division. So I wanted to share some reflections on scene. I'm seeing the superintendent be visionary unrealistic. I see how she
wants fcps to be the leader. I'm aware that our chief technology officer has been working on AI since 2022. I hear the superintendent citing research that children already are using this technology on
their own and facilitated. And as such that we can't wait to take action. I hear the superintendent saying that, quote, rollout is limited only to adults in our school
division period. 2 responses to that. What I think the superintendent and her staff are not are doing that. You're not connecting the dots on that. Parents equate that to let the teacher has it. My
child is experiencing it either directly or indirectly. And I really, really hope you reflect on that because just because you say it's with the adults, parents do not think
that that's where the line. It's just like a bubble. And AI is already being used by fcps educators with students in elementary school. Because parents have given me a lot of
examples. I see no comprehensive communications plan to the board and to the community about what is happening next. I see no plan detailing what is happening now and what comes next. What
comes after the open air pilot with teachers? Where does the superintendent want to go next? I experienced at the school board is not engaged by the superintendent thoughtfully or meaningfully in this work and it's
disheartening that this is a real theme in the work lately. I respect Dr Reid and I trust your expertise and educating children. However, she's not bring the board along with her. And this will inhibit the
success. And I observe that the school board is not aware of what's being rolled out in our schools. So I want to ask a question or 2, Dr Reid or staff. Please tell us about
the pilot with 18 high schools in place since November, which you informed the board about by a paragraph in an email on December. 12th and a 3 page description accompanying it.
Tell us about the pilot. How are parents and caregivers informed about this? What are the 18 high schools? And which are the 6 to 8 schools
receiving the more intensive approach need to get back to you on that. Well, it's here. I don't understand. How is it
true that there are? Programs in place? No members says key action introduced Magic School as a teacher tool to early adopters at 18 high school's sets a plan we haven't. We're working on that right now. So
I have to get back to you with more details. Okay. But it is in the past tense. And so I assumes that again, this is the danger and only commuting saying stuff to the board. An
email. I've heard from several constituents about an AI curriculum being built for elementary age kids, particularly open elementary school. He please confirm if this is the case and share
more about it with the board. We certainly can. So this is reminds me of when the division undertook big effort a few years ago to cull
through social studies lessons and such to be sure that it wasn't including old, you know, and I don't. I just want to close is saying. Someone
needs to review its being created. When I hear things like AI how we create this new form in this new tool. Well, it created a big problem. Where's the quality control?
Where's Gulf or record and all those likekele back. Please. Mr. McCAbe. Thank you so much. A question so got him referred
to the think tank. Can you expand on that? Yes, sir. I can. I'm pulling together a couple of industry Leeds. We already have several folks.
>> To really be thought leaders and fought partners with me on the direction of We're also, as you know, workforce development is a key
Tenet right now, both in the county as well as in the Commonwealth and honestly across the nation. So one of the things we want to make sure is that we've got tight partnerships with industry
leaders on this topic. So the and 3 or 4 folks already and will be adding names to that. So that hopefully we're good to the end of February.
>> Great to look forward to hearing about that. I would say that I think tank should not only be comprised of industry folks, but it should be comprised of skeptics.
Academics, other folks that can A critical eye to this. I don't think. Any of us in our community just wants industry
focused on because believe down. Pretty pretty bad path. here to hear more about the think tank. Just to be clear, we aren't hiring anyone. This is all external expertise that
so we have no budget to hire anyone. Thank you. That is typically what an in-house think tank entails. So it's good to know case to Melanie's
point. I think there are a lot of things circulating out there that we're out in the community hearing about sure. And we don't know how respond.
So there's this magic school I heard about teachers for tomorrow. Piloting something I focused. That's different from the other things we're doing. So I think you'd be very
helpful if we could get a comprehensive list. The AP's all the programs, everything in the schools because I've been caught flat footed just saying, we have we're doing 2
things we're doing Gemini and we're doing OpenAI and I and that's clearly >> Well, I think we all took to think about there's a difference between a eyes. The
topic and that chatgpt partnership training that we're doing for educators at the school division and the some of the concerns have been raised raise around the
chatgpt partnership with OpenAI. That's different than we for, of course. And staff and the academic office instructional Office Working on AI for several years, just
Scott and has been working on it. So there are a variety of types of lessons and ideas that people have. I think as we get the AI policy in front
of our conference committee and are able to sort of codified some of those guardrails people will be really helpful because there's such a deep curiosity.
educators are curious by nature and our lifelong learners. So I'm excited that our staff are interested in new ideas. We probably didn't
spend as much time on the pilot pilot prove scale slide, which is part of the academic matters. But we're not going to rule anything out at scale to. We've really tried and
small all areas. So. We'll try to get you better critter, better chart great ideas. And I think just along those lines and I think this also gets to it now and he was taking that
is that. >> We really >> focused on this is a board. This is a critical topic. We need to take time out of our
schedule have focus time. Not it 11:40PM. >> You know, I think any time I ever. Happy to provide content for such an event.
>> Great be grateful board leadership. They could find. Mr. Thank you. Madam They could be living with million
patients. Many ends. Thanks for the presentations talk to every and looking at that's 9 number hiding place uppers. I
mean, I agree we do with this guy. Many are students at that. Could we find some? Concrete TK years and ID's
kind in pre suppers anywhere. ID being given to not have been a number for any of us to see your.
>> Those are generic pockets. I don't know that there are. Items under that unless Mr. Sethi, I know that teams the team's it's been a
collaborative team have been working on these. >> Yeah, we can certainly provide details on sort of like technical adoptions steps which have strong depth and breadth in terms of how
different is evaluated the security protocols that privacy for cause. But the broader beds are sort of the tensions with which we go
approaching tools. >> So those out on number for the our teachers to me. Kind funny. >> That technical process
evaluation happens before the total comes into the hands of peaches. So that is where we would check the privacy of the security boundaries of their stools before we would give it in the hands of the teachers.
>> I think that the these girls, if I might her or something that our it Department for instructional departments using as they
measure things that might be potential tools. I don't think this is going out to teachers yet. I could be wrong about that. Got some of that. This something that's more a
central. So asking about developing some of 2, The? >> specific guidelines. And they're dese condrey so the
document that would give them more comfortable as you can as people, parents and community see that when you say humans are in control thicker and responsive and we're going be
a beauty in tension or, you know, can What do they need? One of should be doing 1, 0, we have doing.
>> Will will craft a more detailed list. >> And we're well. Missus sticks, essentially. I
completely with her not of countries out to law finally had you mentioned, about China, many steps ahead of us and a Korean government
putting on these. From the national number. Yes, trend. Funny. The uprising on to strengthen AI. For or
students. Just as an electable courses for a few students who maybe want interest in STEM courses every. Yes, we are.
I'm sure it'll be I school. We can talk about talking about the city's one thing but actually doing it, which I consider to an important, you
know, I have 2 sons order didn't hour K through 2 you know, students, you know, one in private sector in technology and other.
governor. He used a high. That's part job. Let me talk about we are preparing preparing our students for tomorrow. Future. That is not
even future. That is right now. Mr. Dunn. So say the same thing overseas of. So if say something here that I said
overseas. >> Children have died from use of AI. Let's just be really, really clear about that.
Children have died. And it's all great and shiny and new and exciting until a child dies because engages and
hallucinations and some kind of the relationship. Define the experience. But I you can look at any headline and any major newspaper in this country in the last 6 months and there's ample evidence of
that, right? It's anecdotal. It hasn't been studied enough because this is so new. But this is a dangerous technology and we should. Not take our
eye off that ball. Expand the computers in classrooms and it had mental effects on the mental health of our kids. It
decreased use of handwriting and knowledge. It decreased attention. There are serious drawbacks to technology. So I just want to remember that,
you know, humans learn best from other humans. And and social and cognitive development is dependent on reading books and and memory
is depend on learning handwriting and taking notes. I cannot be allowed to be a replacement for human
interaction and the incredible experience of having a great teacher right in great staff counselors and principals accept So. I don't have
specific questions. But I would just a question whether China is really had. I didn't see that evidence. I said great marketing. But I didn't see evidence. And I think
there's a lot of study that needs to be done before we unleash this in our classrooms and imperil the mental health
and the safety of our children. Mr. Fresh. Not going to pretend that like the
general conversation around AI is not frightening. Because I think for the most part what we hear about AI is that it's what kids used to cheat. >> And its whats going to
eliminate the jobs that every adult. >> And there's elements of truth to both of those things. Some kids use AI to cheat and
some adults jobs are going to be replaced by AI in much the same way that entire industries were replaced during the industrial revolution or them because
ation of farming equipment from the 50's to the 70's it's frightening, especially for people like me who do a lot of rating for a living. But I can
tell you there's a world of difference between people who know how to use the technology and people who don't know how to use the technology. And so when I worked on Capitol Hill, there were a lot of hearings
about the Internet. This was in the OT and watching policymakers talk about technology. It's painful. Especially if they don't have a deep understanding of it. I
like Mr. McLean's idea having a retreat where maybe we can learn more about the technology to take some of the capacity of it away you know,
I we know that kids are using it. And we know that adults are using it. We know that teachers are using it, whether it is part of what they're encouraged to use or not what
I want is in line with what has been talked about. I want to ensure that kids. How this technology can be used safely.
And I want adults to know the same thing. You know, it. My mother, my late mother. thought that my Facebook wall.
Was an email box. And she would post the craziest most personal things on my Facebook wall because she didn't get that. It wasn't a private message to me. We need to
prepare people for what the technology is so that they know how to use it in a safe way and they know what the risks are. You the governor
Youngkin's wife maybe a year ago that we police every aspect of our kids lives and then give them a phone with no restrictions. Cats out of the
bag. I would love to be an ostrich with my head in the sand and hope that this all goes away because it is terrifying to think that in 40 years, many of the jobs, the
people we now have will be done by. Technology. But those jobs will be replaced by other jobs in other industries. And
so I don't want to be caught flat footed. I want to ensure that parents know exactly what we're up to and how that impacts their kids and how that impacts their kids.
Teachers. And the cafeteria staff and the jet, the custodial crew because everybody's jobs are going to be impacted by this. At some point. And that AI is not just
something to help. You write a paragraph. It is so much more. If all you know about AI is that it helps you write an e-mail or a document or a
couple paragraphs of text that you're struggling over. You know, nothing about AI. We could all learn more.
Misleading. Thank you. Thank you. Sure. A lot of the reflections Mr. Fresh just shared. >> And again, you know, as someone who's training is in
counseling, this has been scary for a long time and it is scary data and you open with this Dre. The 72% of our kids are using I as a
companion. And of those. 25% think that that's better. Human companion. And I said all the time when I gave presentations to parents, no
matter what the presentation was, I always held up a cell phone. I said if you give your child one of these or computer and you let them charge in the room. >> You let them go anywhere in the world without your supervision. Exactly what
governor his wife sent. I said it over and over and over again. And I love that. There's now wait till 8th grade. Wait till 8. I think it needs to be wait till 9. Wait
till 10th rate when it comes to social media and all these things. Let's get back to this. What would discussion point is at hand? What our teachers are doing is
leveraging technology to improve instruction. It's the intersectionality of inclusion. Ugl lighthouse schools work. I'm fortunate
that I have. wife who Nesbit and I learn every day. New exciting things. The ways teachers in her building or using this in for this technology and will probably
not articulate this accurately, but there was a situation where student, a teacher is trying to reach a nonverbal student and there
was a technology because we use technologies as part of instruction because it's also with this is a technology and what not. But learning how to
write program, but then also had to be transferred from. I don't know, HTML to some other kind of program that ultimately allowed the kid to interface with technology to
address with the objective was that's something to do with language arts and again, my apologies. If you're watching it, I didn't get that accurately. But the point I
get so excited. So so the next thing I do know and get to this point, 2 colleagues asked to see this in action to better understand. We are not
replacing teachers. Okay. We can not do great educational work without fantastic teachers who deliver the curriculum. However, we can diversify instruction. We can
differentiate. We can have kids doing things address is how they learn and how they demonstrate knowledge in myriad ways. So I do know that
with light how schools in some of these other programs there's upcoming presentations where they're going to be showcasing sharing with one another. And I'm asking, is there a way that school board members could be perhaps
invited to see some of those if you could think about that. Because Ike, I said I get stories firsthand that just get me excited. And that would I think, be helpful. The last thing I'll share is that one
of my very best friends who's a math teacher. We were going to a hockey game and brought this up. To my wife. When you think of this OpenAI stuff against we don't need this.
You know, we're good teachers. I listen to a 30 minute conversation on the way down to capital one arena and at the end of it, she said I had no idea. I had no idea. It's
never explained to me that way. So I guess what I'm hoping is that we can get in spaces where can be demonstrated for us because I believe we're we're absolutely going the right direction and
I'm excited by the work. Thank you. This mayor and for go back. Dre, what do you think could be some next steps for you based on what you've heard
from the board this evening. I think all reflect on that this evening provide some thoughts. And tomorrow's Friday letter.
I want to share my colleagues. The governance committee is going to be taking the a policy development work and at our next meeting, January 20th, we did state that at our previous meeting just this
week, Dr Reid, are you providing samples to us? Are there any materials for us to priority mention an article called Talk Trust in trade off. I'd love to hear that. But what are plan to send us
before the January 20th governance meeting? have the draft policy that's been cued up. Is that correct? We'll have the draft policy to heat up. I think it would be nice
to have some sort of facilitation guy to really help us come up to speed with what you're thinking and not just giving us a document saying what do you think? Because some of us a city we don't know. We don't know. And
what are the questions we should consider some of the questions I've been considering how does fcps entering a business partnerships and the role of the authority of the board for a IR for anything? What
lessons from other approaches to building a school system? Can we learn from like the literacy rollout? And again, the social studies curriculum where the lessons are all over the place until we really went
through with a roof rack. Data privacy. What controls teachers have to change settings. Those are just some questions. I also just want to refresh that the board is
expecting a full list of the technology used for instruction as part of the eel 12 report on technology that's being deliver the next meeting on January. 22nd. And I expect this will include the list requested by the board at the
October 7th work session that initiated that request. Plus, any additional that if an added through I work since then. Back to the conversation about advisory committees of my colleagues. I just shared a
link the Montgomery County Council of PTA is has a technology committee, you know, of parents that is looking to do things. And so these are great resources to share with our parents and
residents who advocate. And just in general, really like to see less of the passive approach with the board on this and present to Dre. What you think we should know. What should we be thinking about?
What should we be learning about? How do we understand what you want to do, what you may want us to fund and how can we be your champions alongside you? I will leave it
at that. Thank you, doctor. You bet. And definite thanks to the staff. Appreciate your
continued tonight. Agenda item, 9 consent agenda are adopted rules of parliamentary procedure. Robert's rules provide for consent agenda. >> Listing several items for
approval, but of the board by a single motion, many items listed of gone through board review and documentation has been provided to all board members and the public in advance items may be removed from the consent agenda at the
request any board member prior to meeting, the consent agenda items are on the screen. Is there any objection to approving the consent agenda? And seeing no objections? The
consent agenda is approved. Agenda item 10 new business. The following your new business agenda items. There will be no vote on these items this evening. But the action is scheduled for a future
meeting. Agenda item, 11 board committee reports. I call him Mr. Mckelvie in for Port on the audit committee. >> Thank you very much. This
past Monday, we went over annual audit report. >> I call on Miss Maren for 4 from the Governance Committee.
>> We rocked and rolled on Tuesday. We got through 10 policies related to Capital Improvement Program which were first put forth governance committee 2 years ago. And
then we did an additional set of policies to 4, 6, 7 or 8 regarding a charred human relations, making sure that they were all up to date per the changes and collective bargaining. So it was a real big effort for governance
committee. And you heard we're going to take up the work for AI policy, which I have no doubt will come before the full board for a discussion. Hopefully work session. We also are going to continue to
look through those cip policies that are still sitting there and then the counter policy is one that we want to work on a given the community input and request
for updates to that. Thank you. Aaron Agenda item 12 Superintendent matters that conduct or read for superintendent batters.
>> Given the hour, Thank you, Dr Reid agenda item. 13 board matters in accordance with the board's consensus to the late hour. We're going to skip this item this evening. And since
we're going to have to return to the closed meeting, we will recess the regular meeting at
11:57PM.