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>> The time is 06:39PM. in this May 1920, 26 Media Conference of playing a development committee. The Fairfax County School board are now come to order. Agenda item. 1.0, 0, 2, right into
it. Approval of minutes. The minutes of the March 5th 2026 and April 13th 2020, 60 PDC meetings are for the committee for approval. Is there a
motion to approve? This Marin? Would you like to read off the script or just noted that you move it, OK? Well, no teacher. Is there a second? Mr. Dan and
all in favor. guys can vote too. That all opposed any abstentions. Motion carries unanimously. Agenda item. 1.0
3 policy review policy. 84 10 leasing for school facilities. Next order of business is the policy review policy for 10 leasing for school facilities icon Mister Gordon for an overview of the policy in
staff recommendation. >> Good evening, all. So this is probably the maybe a second 3rd time. Look at this list twice. And the CDC. So we've
gone through that we went through twice or 2 meetings ago was consider adding insurance to for lighting it to 84 20. So we went back and
looked at it and I pulled language from 84 20. The lineup with the insurance piece of it. And from a staff perspective, an insurance piece could stay in or stay
out. I don't see issue with it one way or another. We do have in our leases. We actually there are 4 leases that we actually receive revenue on. And of those 4 leases. We have
boilerplate language that covers RICK'S risk. indication inquires insurance. So all that's covered any leads that we would do. This maybe as a backstop. We have the center, but it's not in there. We
recovered. A neighborly says that's what I would offer him. Conversation tonight. And I'm like son.
>> Mr. Dannan: One question there was the million dollar language which I think was kind of copy of the community use. But is is the insurance requirement in your lease is a million dollars more is at last. You know, a commercial general liability minimum
limits is 1 million per occurrence and 3 million aggregate. >> I think I more than enough cover the county community's
requirements are. And open the floor to questions.
>> Ms. Meren: Thank you for returning with the leasing question. Information. However, the big question I continue to ask is what is the intersection with 84 20 community use? And I thought
we were going to talk about that policy at this meeting. That means the crux of this.
They can't go to me. Can't go forward because it doesn't differentiate Alicia, something communities we charge for facilities to the communities policy. How is
this different that still remains unanswered. This is now at least the second, if not 3rd meeting. We've addressed this in CDC. >> So the I would from a staff
perspective, primary differences, business leases that we we're taking in revenue from Aiea the example. There's 4 of them, whether you Jack son, where we're at a
parking spaces. >> Or we are. >> Fall surge, McLane Children's Center as one Apple Federal Credit Union, which is
here. And then United Community Early Childhood Center of Learning Center Bryan. So I see those is, you know, long term. And different
then kind of one-time occasional use from a community's piece from from my perspective. >> Ms. Meren: Well, I appreciate the refresher on what releasing out of the I can't imagine why releasing
the parking lot across the street when we are buying when we are paying leases to Parker School buses elsewhere, why would we be leasing the parking lot of Jackson? If we
are leasing space and other places that just doesn't make sense. And it's really a question for right now. But we just approved a lease not too long ago. Also, there was a suggestion from or heat that
said attaching a leasing 10 plate would be helpful. I just. You know, Daniel, at the last school board meeting. It
was very clear that the policies continue to be stagnant. there was pressure put on to produce them. And I certainly produce the ones for the wireless telecom
facilities. But this is not what I've asked for. Once again. It. This is just the
superintendent to be providing update a community's policy. So that that's all I have to say about this. You have a question.
>> Just for my education. And so the community is I read them. The community use. Policing is more like a business arrangement very same communities is more for
community civic events, PTA, stuff like that. Yes. It's
Struggling to read no, it's fine. It's >> Blew over. I think this is just a very small point. But I think I read language saying
that if the party. Able to be yours for any kind of damages that the individual sign agreement would be level. And I don't know if that's
something that. People find sort Practical difficulty committee. they have an
individual backstopping in organization for liability purposes. >> I don't understand the question. Could you pull the mic a little bit Okay. So I think I read I'm just going to
kind of going for a memory that was Senator revised language. To the to agreement that would hold the individual person signing the agreement
liable in the event that >> the organization can fulfill the obligations or under the agreement. And on that. That's correct. Working and
>> That's the language that we use. for 20 meeting. So that's the language mirrors. What's an 84 20 the committee's policy. So is word for word
what we are existing okay. >> Because you haven't had any issues with that than I. >> I probably would to first And the more
>> that their questions or concerns. >> People find sometimes, say that the getting that insurance is may be prohibitive to them using the facility. We've heard that.
From that perspective. But not someone wanting the responsibility. My sign. Thank
you. Any other questions. >> Okay. So the I guess of the recommendation of DeSantis for the board for. If there's a
motion to send it for the board for approval as outlined the Red Line. The chair will entertain a motion so moved.
I'll second the motion. >> All right. So the motion the table is at the CDC sent 84 10. >> To the board for consideration and approval all
in favor. >> That's mister Danon, Mr. Said the MS I'm going cry. Get these names, correct. De
Lorenzo missing Man Ski. Missy app and myself all opposed. This mayor and and this morning Conakry to vote.
>> The food is 6 to the motion carries. Thank you. >> Next agenda item is 1.0. A site plan say 3.10, next order
of business is the policy review for policy. 83, 10 site planning and Development Co Mister Gordon for an overview of the policy. The staff recommendations. >> Hey, good evening. All this is I think a second look at this. So we left here last
time requesting to add language from general counsel. So Joe accounts, language has been added. And it wasn't specifically into areas under
authority and then. I believe under size. And 3rd area was a And or landscaping taking artificial turf and adding
some comments that you see in red. So I believe we've. Added the markets that requested them staff concurs. And we think this is ready to go
forward.
>> Okay. Open the floor for
discussion. know. Is Mr. Van.
>> for Section 7. See what was the thinking, man moving. And again, this proceeds by time, I think CDC, but removing the part about case being encouraged to. Participate. I
landscaping participation of the Guard clouds, another state organizations. >> That that was a suggestion
from this like that. >> I recall correctly, because I'm Amber, Eric and I meant about this after that just came through, was before. I think it was a four-year sworn
recall correctly. There is a concern about. volunteers planting things that perhaps may I do not need to be planted or things that would
pose to be difficult to necessarily maintain Perhaps the volunteers no longer wanted to. The that. So this is not. And I want to very clear to the 5 people watching
this at home. That this is not to say that working with your schools is discouraged, but in a very for the measure late, it has to fit within the general landscaping it cetera.
>> Okay. That's helpful. Context says nothing. Precluding participation, been them scouts. Anybody else this morning that it would go through more formal process through local principal or
>> yeah, I think it's all all parties involved. So get into as much than said, you post came from right bring in a man and then how is it being maintain rise in the main game by the school and went what level support required from
the facilities to help contain that them And so then we also bring in if the certain individuals promoting person leaves who's, you know, taking that assuming that kind of
responsibility making sure fog looking at long term as well. >> For the record having pending magic facility that relied on volunteers and so forth. I absolutely understand the reason behind it. So appreciate the clarification.
Thank you. >> Any other questions or conversation? If Go ahead. quick Yes, question. Sure. So
I'm curious about this basic acreage for the different school types to we have. I imagine this is a kind of historically a suburb acreage requirement, which I can
appreciate that with with the transition to the areas and some of the more urban centers that the county is moving towards or is there any plan to consider? More urban model
for for those population centers. >> Good question. That was kind of a. Spurred the conversation a couple couple meetings ago. So those are these are just minimum
guidelines from the state. You know, minimum guidelines that we would use cauble cauble floor for the state level. And we added language. There's a twist of language that make sure that wasn't prescriptive that we had to use. You know,
that we would not be that we would be noncompliant potentially right? We did meet. Acreage requirements. So
I think was addressed by general counsel of the croquet.
>> The in Section 4 here, the authority there are all the applicable laws in the building. Codes can can you clarify, refresh my memory on how green building codes are
embedded into this? If at all. >> That section 4 authority.
Nestle's doesn't say it directly. Doesn't who is from using either in any manner whatsoever. We do have certain
sustainability guidelines that we do fall. Because a question that you think it should be referenced there or well, I didn't think it was.
>> Carried in the uniform building code or in the county code. So if it is somewhat in the guidelines for the school facilities, which less familiar with, that may be that covers it. But if it did need to be explicitly called
out. Right now, it seems omitted. >> You know, from facilities perspective, I don't see an
issue that is not called out. And we trying to think I mean, have 85. 42 talks about environmental stewardship. And are, you know, Capital improvement program. We do
call out, you know, planting trees, kind of program. So there is environmental stewardship throughout. You
know, internal external guidance. no shoes on my part. >> I agree. is that the I think it could be a lot more robust. I think the fact this would be an update to this
policy that's from 2013 is at least a step in the right direction along with the environmental stewardship policy. That's on her agenda tonight. So the back and forth and why this policy is on the
agenda is because it had included recommending artificial turf. And so it's taken us a beating or to to have that stripped out well
doesn't have straight up. Environmental, you know, goals in it. We did remove the stuff that was heinous. Lee opposed to very mental. Goal. So on.
That's kind of I think better than where we have been. >> And I think Mister Gordon kind of hit the nail on the head. 85 42, which are going
to be looking at, I think next is the sustainability, environmental stewardship. there is a reference to. In section can my Roman numerals
right? 7 Green Globes, which kind of outlines the construction. sustainable construction. Conversation.
asking. >> Just a minor comment. I was looking at viyeas guidelines for school facilities in Virginia, public schools and has the same table that's listed here on the
policy. But because you already reference that you might want at the table in case Pili ever updates. You know, to Mr. Taylor and says point about maybe looking at
more urban sites you could of animal. It may be a conflict in the policy.
>> But staff problem with that. >> I think I need to go back and talk with You know, initially I wouldn't I would say don't have an issue with that, least like to talk with Suzanne. A new general counsel
office. See if there's any objection, their part. Okay. really it's school policy. I just, you know, our record, see what her recommendation be, whether we leave in early
but out. >> I don't really want to delay to this back to committee again, to be quite frank over whether or not the table should be included tables there, whether it's specific holdout or not, it's
kind of. You know, it is what it is. But what I'll do is is if the motion tonight to send us to the board has approved it with clarification on that. Perhaps there's an amendment the Dyess or whatever it may
be, but I that's 6, 1, half dozen. The other my opinion. But if for perhaps 4. Editorial purposes. Any other
conversation. Is there a motion to send move? 83 10 site. Okay. Miss Mayor, there
a second? All in favor? That's unanimous. And we'll get
clarification on the table. Agenda item. 1.0, 0, 5, policy review policy. 83, 35 wireless telecom. The next order of business is a policy review for 83. 35 world's telecom
facilities, telecommunications. Calling us to go in front of you. The policy in staff recommendation. >> We went through Thank you.
Through this tell last, go around I believe we left with. This man took this and some amendments to it and some input. And then back on May 6.
And then I think we staff on May 6th and 7th added comments and I believe Miss Mayor and you accepted altered took make changes, however. And I think that this in the format right now on staff concurs as it
sits right now, we're OK with that. >> So I'll go ahead and speak to this. So this wireless
telecom policy was last updated in 2018. So there were some updates based on just, you know, current tech turn
phrasing like wireless telecom and model polls, I think, are. But with some of the just some older, different language.
>> Ms. Meren: The board has also been trying to update the purpose of our policies to be more intentional in clear. And so. >> Ms. Meren: We update its to say that. You know, the purpose was you get to put
this on process for to be put on CBS. And also to make sure conflicting with capital kind of is like the comment. The last policy about good meeting, people planting
things in places like without knowing the facility's layout and the being intentional about that in the philosophy as well be added language that I've become pretty passionate about, which is, you know,
looking at our public facility assets and that, you know, these are things for everyone and not just kids for learning. So just to continue to elevate that. Role of of
our. So then the responsibilities was updated to. Kind of more fast track, some of the process that it seems because what happens is,
you know, it's the school's facility, but it goes to the county for the plan for the zoning and there could be back and forth and then it takes a while and things get really off track. And really this it
could be a revenue-generating model. So to enhance that the responsibilities were updated to say basically, let's get all of our stuff together on our side of the House school board members retain the right
to. You'll hear from the superintendent about it. Approve it. Deny it. And then so once it goes over to the county side, it can finish up there. Another thing also was
about. specifying that it would be on admin buildings and middle and high schools and not elementary schools unless specifically brought because that's been an issue in the community before. And
also to state that the money earned the portion of it. It would stay at that school that is hosting the site. So those are the updates and to say, you know, rather than saying it should look like a fake
tree to say that, you know, we need the Fairfax County planning Department criteria just to better align with
that. Mr. Setting. Could you Maybe just didn't understand correctly. But >> the level what sits with
the school. >> In terms of the authority and the decision-making in this new model. >> The decision-making does it
change its? >> The order of the decisions. So its currently that if the school wants to allow, if the board wants to allow school
facility to be least we approve that. And then it goes to the county to say, OK, let's look at the plan and then it's got to come back to us. But honestly, I've never been through this process. So that's about as much as I
know. And what this would do is say is everyone on board before we even send it out for planning review. Like are all school board members on board with that need to be? Does the
superintendent think it's OK? Have there been community meetings about it? Because I think that's that's what it was that we say, yes, you're interested Senate to the county and then it comes back and people like we do know if
we want this or and then we just wasted all this back and forth. >> So one thing that I no, I
mean this Moyes now I got you for next year. No, go ahead. Mr. Said finish your time that I was just flagging. The fact that I recognized this moist
coming up next. Anderson, thanks. So one thing that >> seems to be coming down the pike is that there will be for Fairfax County Water Authority interest and the need to
upgrade their mobile technology. So for me, during censoring so they can just to drive by and there is a potential. I'm just playing
this out. If they were to approach the school board in a sublease requests to put one of their network facilities on one of these towers. So to played out, as you just
mentioned, then they would bring interest to the board where they would be. They would bring that interest to the board and seek some level of having a sublease agreement
some sort of. Purchase order. And then that would then go to the county for approval. And then we come back to the board for approval. But there'd be some sort of community outreach and the very first
step. Makes sense that would play out. >> As a because currently does have a community policy
community use engagement or community engagement, peas. So that doesn't go away like nothing's going away. It's more that the process is being more like our side. The House
County side of the House. If you're any water is, you know, it's different. It's private utility. So I don't know. That's a little more above my
pay grade. >> Just trying understand the mechanics and what's changing. And I think that helps it for me. It was just about putting an example tying it to the flow. That's a good example.
And interestingly not related to the leasing of facilities because this is telecom. So it's not like. We see a
parking lot to the restaurant. >> believe I heard in a previous conversation that there are existing. A lease
space on school grounds. And so is there a process in place to see if there are additional interested parties who could contribute to the revenue
stream? Revenue generation. >> Mr. Dannan: think we have 6 cure and maybe, you know, bring in roughly 2 million year, 50% goes school. I don't
know how we go out and do business development to bring in the carriers. My guess is it had an idea from her past work experience here. But and we wouldn't turn that down.
But I don't know that we're actively seeking it out either. Don't answer your question. But I know that.
Chasing folks away. >> Okay. Thank you. I guess I'd find you. >> Well, I was at the ribbon cutting across entry in the soon as I pulled in there, the
cell phone service completely disappeared. So if someone out there wants to put itself. There's nice Parkland, next. There's plenty of government-owned land near
there. But anyway, so yes, this morning. >> I think there are consultants who actually can help identify if there any other potential interested parties. know the name of any
of them offhand. But if that's something that the county was interested in pursuing. >> I know one. climbs a lot of
mountains, but yeah, that old line for But okay, any other questions on this and a quick question. Go ahead.
>> So I'm just curious of. I can appreciate this is a revenue-generating. You know, Peter, for the schools. But these wireless telecommute and telecommunication towers have
have shown in shown to have adverse. Environmental impact and also health impacts. So I'm just curious to what degree incorporate or 5
through some of the health and environmental considerations as it relates to wireless communication towers. >> It said it's generally part of the package. I can't speak
specifics, but we do take care to kind located them away from folks that will be up on a tower may be on a light pole and a football stadium. So Joe is trying conceal them blend
in with the environment. >> I don't know that we would. agree that there is. there's a lengthy study that was done
prior me several years ago that, you know, says they are safe to do so from a staff perspective or not, we wouldn't say that there unsafe to do. We say there are saying
because if they were we wouldn't so. >> I think there's been a lot of studies and some studies have shown that there There are correlations with them.
neurological issues in especially with vulnerable populations like children. So just something that I think we should Considering, especially for planned to put these on
top of. >> thank you. Noted now I'm pretty think we have information thoroughly discussed in depth probably several years ago within the
board. And the board made a decision to go for >> And believe the EPA has done some studies as well. So maybe that could be a
reference point. Any other questions. >> Is there a motion to send this to the board for approval?
>> Policy ad. >> Is there a motion impose a 35 our Silicon facility to the board for approval. parent is there a second. Anybody want
to make their first second? It's opened this Ms made by MS Spear. Instagram is more all in favor. That's mister Danon,
Mr. Setting this morning, this man ski, Missy Atmosphere in myself, all opposed Mr. De Lorenzo. And that motion carries. Last but not least
speaking 80 for policy agenda item 1.0 6 policy review policy. 85, 42 environmental stewardship. I call on Mr. Gordon, overview. >> Yes, sir. again, we've been
through this a couple times to comments and length several months ago. Staff going through this couple times. From our perspective. Look at
it first fairly thoroughly. We think it's in a good position. Doesn't align with our cip and our environmental sustainability. Open up for
questions. >> Other questions on this agenda item and this is the item, Mr. Set there's referencing if you go to.
Roman numerals. Well it here. Roman Numeral the Green Globes. Roman Numeral 7.
That's where it talks construction standards for green policy for You know. For getting the word. But green
construction standards. Any questions, comments, Mr. Yes, my question relates to.
>> Section new section. Not not 9. >> On indoor air quality and how how is this relating to
the newly enacted legislation last Effective July. The first are quality. You talk about establishing inhalation standards, but the new. That
was enacted last year established different her new requirements for schools. >> So we're we're in line. We do see the requirements come
from the state. And so there's actually additional legislation came out this year, more stringent that did not pass right. And so we know that if this more stringent as
an added cost. So if the current language that did not pass it with the House, we know that's about a 3 to 5 million dollar bill that will. We'll have those or within the school system fund
and support. Any other previous into our qualities. You know, from our position that aligned with him in the following. >> Yeah, I was talking about
the one that was passed last year in particular, any mention of Co 2 levels or and or co 2 sensors. >> So you asked if we do. We
have co 2 sensors with right, which is not. >> It's not called out. So you're calling out, for example, filtration, not necessarily sensors, which is
part of the legislation. >> think that has to do. I mean, I know we do. where testing throughout our facilities. So question is, are we adding Co 2 sensors to the facilities to check that
all? think that as a duo. >> guess for a clarification point and I appreciate the comment. I made a note of here. There's a red line that
says industry typical federal standards with that. I presume that language would cover. I think in the event that laws because last change, all that
laws and regulations change in the Well, this would be state. Industry So it was it, should we perhaps red line that industry and applicable federal and state standards?
Under section 9 indoor air quality and just put in and after federal and state. Justices are just with that just to cover. are you on, of
halfway down on? It's new Roman Numeral 9 indoor air quality about halfway down. We're PA has struck out there's industry and applicable federal standards.
Okay. Because federal and state there to make sure that covered. I had Mister Dan of
them are setting. >> The last section provides measures was scaled down a bit. And it's it's little bit
vague. Their existing performance measures for this. That would be. Tying in to or referencing. >> I mean, all time I have the
fall, I mean. We do a Virginia operational safety and health, I think is the organization Bosch. So we are following their guidelines. If we have
something, you know, someone in school follows a, you know, a complainer as an issue. Boss comes out checks to see how we're following, you know, procedures with that. That statement. I think things are
in place and that doing that. there's some specific, you know. >> No, just I said it's the broad the one sentence. It's not there. So I wasn't sure if
there's something and send a different policy here, regulation that we're using to hold ourselves accountable tracking for months. as some sort of kpi. Yes, yes. And I
didn't know public that. Thank you. I too. >> 2 questions. So when going back to that line of industry
and applicable federal standards is industry and to tie into Asher a specific or is it little trying to be more broad as it relates a Q. That
could be could be both right. No. Why? >> I think it's probably Torres, more Ashley support it
would anything else. But I think probably is a coined Event histories doing then why aren't we probably? Were lined with kind of best business
practices that occur. >> I guess where wondering and it may be there's not not really a there there, but if it's industry to me, can also be defined by the
manufacturers and distributors that the the regulatory bodies. >> coming from the perspective, you think there might be risk on a school
system start by saying that just wondering if there's a gap that someone might try to explain exactly. It's worth
asking the council I can. Give us is and see if there's a you know what her perspective is on this. It comes from a place if the intent is to add a
level of rigor for any consultants, contractors on so forth that they must. >> They want they need to apply the comply with a certain level of standards. Then. Seems to me the more
specificity could help. Perhaps that. And then the second one is energy
management and vetted in here in some way, shape or form That has gone through this process already. So what components of energy management referring to? Just
specific just I would have anticipated in the section that there would have been something that is. Establishing some sort of guidance and guidelines on energy management. So as an
example, you more than you may have already gone through this and just said this is a no go. But the best policy standards for that are going on in DC and then also Montgomery
County. Those come to mind. So energy performance standards. >> Man. Oh, you know, through the process, we do. You know. >> Schools do when numerous
awards for meeting in industry standards are guidelines. So it in there somewhere. I don't know. We're particularly is calling on it. I'm just wondering if it's opportunity.
Also, the help for the school districts to. Reduce costs through this measure as well as meeting stewardship
principles. I mean, it. So we're looking for conservation measures that kind getting at, you know, with the time line with the jet goals are, you know, we do have, you know,
solar projects. We are doing kind of 0 waste management with the county. So we do have things are in place that were for me, The solar is we're partnering with them. You need to do that. So we are getting
we're getting a, you know, fix rate over a set period of time for the power. There may be some power support that goes in back to the building. But generally comes back off the
grid within the schools. We do have programs likes your table. sp, you know, not eaten is put on tables for and can be taken away and some, you
know, and other means. And again, we just got into. some component, 0 composting, right? So now starting composting at 54 of our
schools. So we had some power program to force those things in there that kind of it around the edges, talking to. And I'm thinking does more along the lines of utilities and power. From from the
utilities and power peace. You know. Probably would be the the Solar initiative that we're doing 9 schools and the board approved an additional.
think it's a 34 schools in total those. 25 schools are looking at doing future solar panel project on top. Okay. And obviously led initiatives.
Were feasible and affordable convert Ltd's. point.
>> So yeah, I'm sorry. I will. My eyes are failing on the at nighttime. I'm getting old this. Yeah, I'm sorry. Thank you to Mr. Said he's point. >> I think perhaps we should
call out as the industry standard because >> because the seal, the actually says their vacation of unit operation and that required maintenance has been
performed in accordance with the most recent entered an election standards promulgated by American Society of Heating Refrigeration and air-conditioning engineers. So that's actually called out in
the legislation. Are in the chapter code of Virginia. So that I believe Ashley should be called out specifically.
But also I think Mr. Gordon pointed out that at the top of Page 3, I think we see the kpi.
>> The creasing total energy use is from all FCS facility fcps facilities by 25% by 2030, and 50 by 2040. So perhaps this. Meet your
comment. take the as aligning with the jet goals. 2 primary factors from jackals. Now >> the call out for the Ashley
Glad to go back staff and find out why we don't call that out. There may be a reason why. I don't know. And they have a good reason. If that's not over that I'm not. I'm not against adding it. It would
take, you know, staff and then. Kind of the council. >> What was that a s H?
>> A S H R 8 e. And that's called state code. It
>> 22.1 dash one. 41.5. A quick check. Went. Quick question and a comment just
taking a step back here. The this policy is being updated, work. But we're looking at is a refresher on this policy. Just want to clarify that. And
then I have my my second comment or question is, you know, to what degree just big picture again is is is are these policies aligned with some of the broader a strategic planning documents
that the county has like the county strategic plan more specifically tree canopy. So I'm just, you know, we're thinking we're talking about and environmental considerations. And I'm just
curious why why we're not talking about tree canopy is as one of the county's major landowners. So. >> The yeah. So I would say we are line with our cip so it
does step for step in. The cip covers more and then tree canopies. We do have a section or we've we've planted over 1003 since 2024 right. So understand it. Maybe it's not
counted here, but we do cover a lot the tone and the cip now, I think of that. We probably should give you all see it as well. So all the that might help answer
questions down the road. We're going to be in this kind of partnership. >> Well, that is published digital versions were
circulated, I believe. But if you want a paper copy the county, the paper copy. >> But just got them within the last couple weeks. So times the last they've been
printed and delivered since we last met. >> I think I had missed the giving. Thanks are >> Just another clarifying questions to this is this is
the final draft language that's being find With it being. We have free. We have. >> Leave to make. And it's so
if if if anybody wants to amend or uncertain language, we can do that. Yeah, ideally, we can get this to the board tonight for a final recommendation. I think the
question about inserting to specific code reference may have to get a quick legal look. But than that, there's no reason why we can't red
line edits tonight. I had this spirit and then Umansky. >> Ms. Meren: For me, it's hard to listen to these very excellence and obvious
comments and questions. I will speak for myself and saying that this is not what I would love, but it is what is taken
2 and a half years to get to. I have my policy turn up. So in 2024, when the board approved the policy so that would have been in January or February. I proposed a motion that all of our facility related policies be updated.
And this is one of the last ones. And the reason it's and CPD see it because it went from governance. To the full board, got pulled off for some reason which I forget on this
earlier this year. And now it's back here. you know, it's 13 years old. And I think that's information. And no, it's not a line to county
documents and we do our best. This goes back to the bond funding there is a lot that's not happening. That should be.
So I think this puts at least something out there that's more aligned. But this is just part of the hole. Bigger picture of the problem that we
have at our facilities. Missing Mets game. >> Thank you. Have a question on the carbon neutrality section and understanding with
the baseline is for the reduction. So I see in the body of the text, it references progress to date measuring from 2008. But it also references the commitment
to the jet directives, which I think when you read the recommendations is referencing a different years. I just want some clarification on that. >> What paragraph be referring
to? That undercuts a pair of 6 and a carbon neutrality. Correct. And so specifically you're asking. Line with the 2030 reduction goals were you
said a baseline sure that. >> Towards the bottom of that paragraph, it says progress to date is measurable in 2024. Fcps reduce carbon emissions by 42% over those admitted in 2008. So I'm inferring that
that baseline is established from 2008, but I think the jet. Recommendations dictate
2019 baseline of 28 teen. >> The fact let's go back. Yeah, for What what rules here. But question is. 2000
Acres, 2019. >> Or 9.19? Yes. >> And then of the 2019 is the
baseline 2 parts okay. OK, our Mr. Set the to Miss Mayor. I appreciate the been doing this for multiple years. I
apologize that were coming in the 4th quarter thanks, France and the questions. One. 2 questions. Again, Red One just
the green Globes. Where are we coming from? And where are we going? Are we going to green Globes fully now and where we shifting away from? >> And what are the the second
part of that is one of the water full of facts that euro anticipating now. >> Previously the state had a under the Virginia high
performance packs HB 2001 had a standard that we were using. state switched off of that and >> didn't require what. >> You know, whether it's Levi's Green Globes with something else. And we that
internal analysis and felt reloads was. The best path forward economically and still allowed us to achieve our sustainability requirements. So ring Globes is the path
forward for us right now. >> I guess I'm wondering. I appreciate it. if it was lead before and now it's shifting was never leave before it was. thank you. Members chips that
and so does anything fall out of compliance as a result of that shift. >> Now nothing falls out of compliance, we have some projects that were going forward that looking to
achieve the chip standard and as long as they're in by a certain deadline, certain date, then they can proceed forward. If not, and they got to switch to Green glove side. grandfather didn't in some way. Some some could be
grandfathered in for sure, but are still meeting of our mental standard under chips. Still, matches well with cloves or leader in the other I think is going to fall out.
We're still still making it work. This mirror morning. >> Ms. Meren: I wonder if this committee now with a new membership wants to work on this morning. As much as
always in this cycle of let's get these policies done and I'd love to check this off the list of 20 policies about facilities. It I think, again,
it's much better than it was. It's it looks too codify. Some of the jet work really because that was really Seminole. And so I see even the the comment from us Umansky about the
carbon emissions like doesn't really like policy thing. Rated documenting what's happened, which really should happen in the cip. So if anything, if there's confusion about it, we could remove it,
which isn't making it accurate. No more with the 2019 number. But the other thing I wonder, I mean, I have Board of supervisors say in a public meeting that there is an appetite. There is not at
that height for better environmental achievement in this county. I mean, if you look at the county budget, it's not towards making our buildings greener. So. You
know, if there's something we could do better. But at the end of the day, if it's going to take money. The solution is stilts to get more money.
yeah, city. Mr. It to that point. So. >> You had mentioned, I think that maybe some editorial tweaks are still possible. So as an example, one thing that I see another school district says this section would be
environmental and economic stewardship. And so. Going to back one of my original point was if there is a call out for energy management and building performance, that's cost
reduction, just jumps out off the page like that as opposed to I agree. It's it's embedded in the carbon neutrality, but that doesn't sway certain
folks in the community as much. And if you need to make the economic case, then there's an opportunity there to carve it out and be crystal
clear. Please. So. >> From the economic piece of it's feasible, right? That's what you're getting at. When add the economic piece to it. >> More so that
>> something could be cost for him. could be a great thing that could be cost prohibitive based on available funding at the time. Know that this is cost beneficial official >> There is an upside to reducing energy costs. When
it's embedded under environmental front, it's in by environmental stewardship and economic cost reduction paired together. >> Right. So if you're talking like future years, like the invest capital dollars, now
you're going to save something down the road so we would love to do that. But there isn't capital dollars to invest in that right now. So we looked at partnering we're still looking at. Are there. can't take ones as school district
right? Other school districts do that. Others schools around us are spending capital dollars to do that. We don't have the CAPA dollars do that. So we are looking at how we can partner with other organizations want name companies out loud here. But
so there are there is. To how we do that, right? And is are we now allowing someone else to be the bank to help provide money and out of that office
at work in the future. So >> I think is page 3 models. You're seeing them all around with other counties in the neighboring district. So it makes sense. And I'm not trying to say that you're in. The county is not the school
district is not thinking about this. It's just does it Is it beneficial to have it in a policy document. That's >> suggested path forward. So
in the government's manual, there is the ability of committee chairs. I discovered this to appoint working groups that can. Be set So maybe it
will be beneficial to after this meeting circulate a a station of interest for who might want to do a working group to put some more look
into this and maybe work with staff and will kick in another few weeks and then bring it back for have all the questions answered look into the question on the jet goals and the code requirement.
absolutely welcome. Yeah. From perspective what don't put that the >> well, I'm just Lessee PDC meeting for the school year.
>> We can do one in June. We buy, but typically have interpreted as importantly when it typically been, you know, after each meeting will do a survey, but happy to one engine that I'm more we I
guess. Let me rephrase. Is there a burning does? Is there a burning? Is this policy holding up anything that that? Well, I mean, my question is.
>> So we have these are new experts here. What's the outlook for the summer? I would imagine. You know, came on the board. I read every single policy. And if I were coming on this committee,
given how complex this is reading the policies because I you all would gain so much and able to advise and this could be a really great way to figure out what to do in the next year. And you're looking
at the cip looking at the policies with fresh eyes could be really, you know, useful and I think even may be necessary to be able to do this work to see the confines that we're in. And what you
might suggest that we do better. So, you know, as the cip calendar starts again like so it's probably under way. We're going to get a presentation on in January before we know it. So my question is more about what
the work is ahead and can give you a packet of stuff to, you know. Take with you or send
you later. I think. >> I don't want to slow down train that's been going for 2 years here. I think I have empathy I think that the
questions about the code specification and then making sure that you have that baseline of the jet goals. And think the point that was raised about perhaps maybe a paragraph on. You know, that you're referring to whether
it's not necessarily P threes, but you see them saying so that that probably does warrant broader conversation. So I'm happy to after this. Illicit to see obviously has
to comply with public meeting last wild for the Clark's on making sure the mechanics of that are set up. And yet every wants to sink their teeth into it. Perfectly happy to do
that. >> Mr. Runs a quick question. I want to just echo Melanie's thoughts on the timeline for for adopting this policy. It's
been 10 years since we've updated it. You know, it's not the time to rush through refresh. It's it's a good time to comprehensively. Look at it
and take our time and do a good job specially. Especially considering how how the policy is informing the escapee to the extent that it is. I don't
know to what degree policy is integrated into the cip prioritization process. But to the degree that it is and that the it's it's it's used, then it's valuable to take time and
have a timeline that's a more comprehensive quality. >> say staff welcomes kind some outside. Look at this as
well. >> So without objection, we'll move forward solicit a working group and sense of the working
group. >> That's it. So agenda item. 1.0 7 is adjournment. Our next epc meeting is technically scheduled for June 18, 2026
and it 06:30PM, here in Gate. House Administration center in 1600 will solicit membership to make sure that dates to works this Fairfax County School Board, Comprehensive Planning and Development
Committee meeting is adjourned as of 07:35PM.