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City Council Committee on Public Safety, April 29th, 2026 at 5:15 p.m. will come in. Cler call the role. >> Council Canuel >> here. >> Council Rapo >> here. >> Chair Pekkham >> here. Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person may make an audio or video

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recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium. Attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are therefore being made whether perceived or unpersceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible. Item number one, citizens input.

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We have two people signed up. We have Michael Baldi, 19 Hunter Way Westport. >> Motion to wave >> subject firefight. A motion to wave the rules has been made. >> Motion w seconded. All those in favor? I Gentlemen, hello.

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>> Good evening. >> Good evening, Mr. Baldi. >> Hi, guys. I'm here in my uh capacity as the vice president of local 1314, the faller of firefighters union. I want to uh address a few inaccuracies I heard at the city council meeting last night. Kind of a rebuttal. They uh someone mentioned that uh firefighter turnout

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gear would take over a year to procure if it was put into the budget. And I made some phone calls today for 190 sets of gear that could be purchased in 10 to 12 days uh to fit all the firefighters we have in over a twoe period. And then 60 days from then we could have 190 sets

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of PA fast free gear. Uh the last set of gear that we purchased that did not have P that was not PAS free was in October for four recruits we sent to the fire academy. They've since graduated the academy and are in the companies. Uh we hired seven members through local register. Uh maybe a month or two ago. I

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can't remember exact dates. And they they were the first people to have PAS free gear. Those were seven people we hired off the local register. The nine people we have in the academy right now that just started last week. Their gear that was ordered, nine sets of gear is not in yet, but that will be PAS free gear. Uh under the u the bill that was

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signed by Governor Healey in uh 2024, the act to protect mass public health from PAS. Um anything after January 27, 2027, any fire department gear has to be PAS free. PASF free. Um and that that 190 sets if purchased,

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we asked for a few extra sets. one for the department to send out to independent testing and one the union asked the fire chief and he agreed to to have we will send out for independent testing to make sure that it's PAS free. It has to be under 100 parts per million of PAS and then to find out what other types of chemicals could be in there and

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I believe uh the union president brought up last night uh the incident happened in Quincy. They were promised sets of gear that were pests free and they had a large amount of PAS in them and they they sent it out for independent testing then they discovered that. So we want to uh protect ourselves in the same way. Okay, I appreciate that. Thank you. Any

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questions? >> Yeah, council closer. >> Yeah, Mr. Baldi, just to clarify, last night we talked about they want to do an order of 100 to to set up the full department. 200 is the accurate number. >> Our number right now, I believe, is with the nine we just hired is 191 or 193.

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It's a moving target. >> 200 makes makes sense to have a few extras obviously if you need them, but that would outf everybody with PAS-free turnout gear. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Thank you. I yield. Council Ko, >> thank you. Uh, hearing that this is a much lower timeline to get these ordered

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and and brought here, um, do you know offand how long the testing is? I know we say we want to send away. I just if if it's a little, you know, I guess my where I'm going with this is if it's much quicker to order gear, could we just get one set, send it out for

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testing, have it tested before we go purchase 190? >> Uh, with the timeline of the testing, I can get that answer for you quickly. I can reach out to the the local president. and uh and the Quincy firefighters union and get an answer back to see what they did. But I all know that we don't want the set that they hand us for testing. We want to see 100 sets of gear and I'll pick that the

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set of gear I want to send out the testing. I want to be randomized testing as opposed to what they hand us. So you just got to >> that doesn't make sense. >> The world we live in, you have to trust but verify. >> Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. >> All right. >> Is that it? >> I appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen.

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Uh, next for citizens input, Michael Organ 1198 Newuh Hall Street, subject fire gear. >> It's been a while since I seen you guys, >> Mr. So, I just want to address a couple of things u that uh the CFO brought up last

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night. Phasing in gear uh is I I would say it's reckless and irresponsible. I mean, who are you going to choose who's going to like be poisoned and who's not going to be poisoned, right? Uh it comes around to what how much are you

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willing to sacrifice or spend for somebody's life? It's kind of like, you know, we're going to have the police department outfitted with handguns, but but we're going to phase in bullets over the next two years. It's it's it's ridiculous. It's it's a life-saving measure for us. Uh and and I think that

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the city's plan to phase things in is is ridiculous and it should be resoundingly rejected. Our people need protection now and and and I think we deserve it. Our guys are dying and this is one of these ways to mitigate that. If if you look up the the

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amount of bills that the city pays uh just in medical alone for the cancer treatments, it's it makes it makes sense. It does. And besides that, you know, the the mental well-being of of us alone, being able to put a set of gear on and say, "I'm not killing myself by

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putting this this crap on." I know when I came back, I didn't want to put it on. I didn't want to touch it because I knew that that's what was that was was killing me. I I disagree with a lot of things that she said and and and I don't think I think I also think it's it's reckless and irresponsible for her to make statements about previous gear being

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purchased over the years that were PAS-free when if she doesn't know she probably shouldn't talk on it because that was uh that was untrue. >> All right. >> Is that all you have? >> That's all I got. >> Thank you. Councelor Fosa. >> Yeah. So I think last night councelor

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Kadeim kind of indicated as one counselor supporting the instead of getting 100 this year and 100 later on. I would agree with him and I would advocate too for get them all you know it makes it makes sense. Um so it would be appropriate to make a motion to file

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a resolution. Is that allowable thing? >> Can I do that >> chair? It's up to you. I guess your discretion >> we can um would it be better suited just to file a resolution on the outside? >> I can certainly >> and then send it back to committee. >> Yeah. So I I think you know I'll I'll

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file a resolution if if you gentlemen wanted as a committee we we could talk about that um to send a a a letter to the administration advocating for moving up the number to the adequate number that needs to be ordered to cover all of our firefighters in one failed swoop.

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Obviously subject to testing and and what have you to make sure they're taken care of. I I think I agree with Mr. O Reagan that you know 100 only doesn't cover everybody and I think you're you're playing I don't think it's a good game to play. So I'll I'll file the resolution after the meeting. I yield. >> All right. Thank you. I know um last

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night I I made a comment that I would like to see the 191 like councelor Kadim said >> um up front and by those and I would also like to see fiscal year 28 have the same um type of appropriation because I would like to get both sets of gear uh

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both sets of gear >> um be pas free because it wouldn't make sense if you have frontline gear and then you have to wash it and then you go throw on the one that has PAS on it. We're defeating the purpose. it. We want to get that gear out of the station period. It it it it does what's called

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it degrades. It sheds >> and it gets all over everything. So you PAS is attracted to dust molecules. So if you go into a station, I I I encourage you to take a flashlight and look around the corner walls and gi gigantic dust bunnies and that's all PAS. All that stuff has been tested over

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the years in laboratories and and they know what it is and that just comes off of our gear. We take that home, we put in our cars. It's it's it's everywhere. It's on everything. And so if we eliminate in the the gear itself, then we can remediate the stations and finally clean them out. >> Okay. That's definitely a conversation to be had. Did you have something

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council? >> No, I think uh councelor Poser addressed I think uh I was looking to how do we get the second set of gear sooner? So >> yeah, I think if we're going to do this um I know we spoke about the station, we've spoke about uh living um what you guys live in within the stations that

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needs to be rectified. the your equipment needs to be just the trucks in general need to be handled and the uh now the PAS the gear. So I think it we need to take all these issues together and just keep pushing to make sure that they're rectified um because I don't

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want to really be talking about this next year. Um this is you know it's a safety issue. It's a uh it's a hazard within the job that we're able to rectify. So whatever I can do to make that possible I will. Um I appreciate your time organ. Thank you. >> Thank you guys. Thank you.

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All right, that's it for citizens input. Item number two on the agenda is the minutes from the April 21st, 2026 meeting. Motion to approve has been made and seconded. All those in favor? >> I I the eyes have it. >> Motion lift item three from the table. >> Motion to lift item three from the table's been made and seconded. All those in favor?

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>> I I have it. Resol item number three, resolution, committee on public safety, convene with the administration, police chief, fire chief, chief of emergency medical services, chief of emergency management agency, the administrator of community utilities, the interimm director of the department of community

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maintenance, the director of city operations, and the director of traffic and parking to discuss the development of a strategic emergency response plans plans. Sorry, this was tabled on 47 of 2026. Everybody can come down.

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Good afternoon everybody. I'll start with you chief if just want to go on the table. Uh name and title. >> JT acting chief of police for the for police department. >> Richard Agat, EMA, director, chief of special services. >> Chris Hathaway, for police signal division.

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Al Oliver, director city operations. Michaela, deputy chief of EMS and O'Neal Souza, interim city administrator. >> Beth FZ, chief of EMS. >> All right. Excellent. Thank you guys for coming tonight. Um, I know the last

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meeting I said that I would like to have another meeting roughly 30 days out to see where we were at with this trailer and I know in the meantime a lot of headway has been made. Um, it's actually quite impressive. So, I I had asked that the chiefs and

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directors and whatnot come back with just maybe a list of what um still may need to be done, ideas, and then we can go from there. As far as the emergency operations trailer, um, and for the people at home that may not be um, so

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well verssed on the project, we initially I had filed the resolution to look at updating the emergency operation center within the city. And during the course of that discussion, it was brought up that a mobile operation center would be a good way to go as well. Um, and that's what we're entertaining at this point. And I'm very

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glad to have you guys here. Tell me your ideas. I think you uh were part of that walkth through that we did which identified uh the trailer obviously and uh some modifications that needed to be made to house all three of our public safety entities.

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So, uh with that said, we came up with a punch list that day. I know Chief Font has worked hard with the deputy to get some quotes on getting the trailer wrapped. I think she can expand upon on that as far as getting it uh curb appeal increased on it. As far as what it has

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for facilities, uh Chris Hathaway took a look at it uh for the communications piece. So, there are things that we're looking at there. I think the key point is is this is kind of like our trial run of this and then gathering feedback from all three agencies on what's working, what's not working in there. Um I know

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our IT department was involved with uh some of the outfitting for the workstations in there. I know that you great you made up a great brought up a great point around uh dispatch operations being able to work out of there. Um so this the the thought process with this trailer when it's uh

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complete is to have this at some of the major special events in the city. Uh I think one of the only things that's an issue with it is because it's so long on a trailer on a being trailered by a truck is the maneuverability. So, um, I think we can take some of that information that we gathered by using

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this and then apply that for when we want to look for one that's a kind of a tour bus style. Um, so we're we're planning on identifying, speaking with Ann today about special events, identifying what that trailer will be deployed for, kind of like pre-authorization, and then kind of

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coming up with like an SOP on how it's activated and deployed. But I think if we identify, we have our calendar kind of laid out for city sponsored events, uh, and obviously the bigger ones like the gates of the city events, the day of Portugal, that's the type of things that we're going to use this for. So, um,

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identifying that and knowing so we can plan accordingly. So, I think everything's been good from our standpoint in the police department on where it's headed. >> Excellent. Thank you, Chief. Chief AA, >> no, I agree with everyone. I think it's going to be a good asset to the city. um

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something that we need we that haven't had before the police had their command center but I think unified command for all in one trailer what certainly should happen it's going to be a great asset to the city um that's all I have I guess um Chief Fox have been doing a lot of work with this and deputy chief Aruda so uh

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kudos to them for getting us up and rolling on the communication side I'm looking to uh add at least two u mobile repeaters so that way it'll will enhance the communications at any event um whether

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it's a scene or or just a regular um gates of the city event or um something of that nature. Um the only issue that I'm having right now with Motorola is our frequency on the police side. The fire side is good. Those mobile repeaters will work, but I'm working

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with the engineers for Motorola on the police side. >> Okay. Um the idea of it is is that we'll be able to whatever we put into this we'll be able to transfer over to um a bus style command truck. Same thing with if we install any cameras on the exterior some teles

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telescopic cameras stuff look like that. >> I know that was one of the issue one of the items that we had discussed originally was a telescoping camera. Um I think it's a good idea but it would take some time. I think we said that we would uh get the ball rolling and then work on that. Yeah, it's a little hotter because of the trailer style. Um, but we

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I'm looking into it now. >> Okay. Um, and I know deputy acting chief forward brought up the uh the dispatch component. And the reason I and we had had this discussion feel so strongly about it is I'm trying to look for a way to free up any way I can um the traffic

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on the radio with 364 and with the fire. Um because you know if we could handle or self-d dispatch right from a lodge event right from the trailer and supply the resources right directly from there it takes some burden off of the the dispatches at the department itself you

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know our actual dispatch center. Um so that's why I've been pushing for that. I think it it would help us. >> My intent would have four radios for four seats for uh two for police, two for fire. >> Okay. Now what about a 911 piece set up? Can we put that in there? or is that

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something that the state would have to do? >> Yeah, it's not something that we could um do. >> Those seats are baked into the the facility. So, if you wanted a mobile aspect from the PAP side, it would be requesting it from state 911, but that would be for some type of catastrophic failure. >> Yeah. Sorry.

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>> Understood. >> They would bring down their facility at that point. >> Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you. >> Yes, counselor. under the city operations end, we would work with all three agencies to get the logistics on site and try to work around what what is

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needed. Prior to that, we're we'll be working with them to see what customizations that we can support um any type of um augmentation to any of those uh units um and then have an idea of where we where we have with something

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that's actually mobile on its own. So, we'll support uh all the all the departments. >> Okay. I know an idea I had for the operations piece of this was I remember back in I think it was 200 I want to say one when did the highway fall into the government center.

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>> So that was um >> early 2000s. So it was in the 1990s. Yeah. Yeah. So I remember I was on the auxiliary then and they were entertaining with uh at the time it was Lieutenant Cullen having the auxiliary work the detail and you know to watch

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for falling cement and fall river out of all things but um and nobody surprised >> it happened in Boston as well. >> Yeah, sure it did. I'm sure it did. Um so they were going to have us go out there. So what I was thinking was this trailer even for event like situations like that if we have details it's going

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to be a detail that's going to be six, seven days long. It could be a spot where Yaha detail officer can go and eat his lunch. I don't care anything, you know, any type of emergency situation. I can see this being used for. So, >> yeah, I mean, Chief was talking about

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the SOP that's going to be crucial for this this operation because there's always going to be a lot of hands trying to get involved in it. That SOP will will uh list exactly what's what we can use it for. >> Yeah, agreed. Agreed. Thank you.

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Yeah, I can just speak a little bit to what's already in motion. Um, the trailer is already out to be wrapped um by the company that's doing the work. Uh, we expect that it'll be back and wrapped by sometime next week. Uh, so that process has already been started.

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Um, myself and the chief has started looking into some of the other expenses, things like the auto leveling jacks that I know Chief Bacon had spoken about. Uh, we're still trying to look for there was an awning on the outside of that, getting that awning replaced. I think uh Chief Hans was trying to make some phone

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calls today to see what that would cost to get that replaced. Um and then we still have uh some people trying to look into the telescoping cameras and the the lights that we're not sure if that's going to be done uh currently. It certainly is not going to be done for the launch, but it's something that

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we'll look into for the future. As far as like EMS specific needs that I kind of addressed, I kind of looked at. I know there was that small locked area that we weren't really sure what we're going to do with. I I thought maybe that could be a small treatment area. With it being such a visible area, I'm sure a

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lot of people would come to that location if they were looking for medical attention. Uh definitely having like an AED mounted in there with a medical bag. That way if somebody does come to the trail looking for medical attention, any person, whether it's police, fire, EMS, is going to be capable of treating someone that gets

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brought to that location. Um, so I thought that could potentially be a use for that smaller locked area that's in there so that we can do some basic first aid at that location for anybody who needed it. >> Okay, I appreciate that. Um, how big is that? Because I didn't see the back part of

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the trailer. So, what is that like a storage section of the trailer? >> Is that a black bench in the front? There's a little fridge. >> Yes. >> It's only like a closet. It's a cubby, but it's enough to put a band-aid on or do whatever because in these events, most people kids skin their knees and

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stuff. >> Okay. And it definitely with it being such a a visible uh thing that's going to be at these events, if someone is in need of attention or medical attention, I'm sure that's going to be the first location they're going to want to go to. So having some capabilities or if there is a higher acuity event, having like an

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ad easily accessible that's always assigned to that apparatus is going to be a a good investment to have in that. >> Yeah. to the point that deputy hard acting chief horid made in the last meeting, it's the attention of it and at an event like that and they see it and

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they know that's where I'm going for help. So, I I I agree. The medical bag, the AED, anything for onseen care would be great. Um, council repos. >> Yeah, I just have two questions. Um, as far as the funding component to how these improvements are being made, um,

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to the intram city administrator, um, how is this being funded to do these repairs and modifications? >> Well, I mean, the trailer is through EMS and, uh, the chief has graciously offered the donation of the trailer for the command center and what's being done

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so far has been covered by your division >> by EMS. Okay, awesome. And then I know there's an email here from Chief Bacon who's not here this evening, but um I'm assuming and a lot of it has already been said based what he wrote here. Um but is there any I guess I want to call

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it any particular stations within this trailer for fire? I know we mentioned police, we mentioned EMS. Where where does fire fit into this trailer per se? I'll ask the >> I think there's the the workstations there would be universal. >> Universal. Okay. So there'd be a way to

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log in and do whatever. So obviously um I think the the the elements of what we have is a lot of people have laptops that are enabled too. So it's the workspace area and then having like phones that are built in there. So we run into capacity issues with cell phones when we're saturated. It came up

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during the uh snowstorm when we were all up at the fire headquarters. There's you know the cell capacity became an issue at certain points depending on how many people were up there. Um, but as far as that trailer's concerned, it's really just giving a place to set up a workstation. There will be physical

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computers in there, but it'll allow for workspace essentially. So, I think the reporting components different for like police and fire and EMS. They have their laptops, too. So, it's really just uh when we could hold briefings and things like that, and then obviously service,

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low-level uh injuries and and EMS items like that. So, that's kind of the thought process. Just the curb appeal of it, I think, is the biggest thing. And then creating a centralized thing that we can advertise like, hey, at a special event, look for this trailer. Um, versus like, hey, look for the white popup tent

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that's left of the Malasadus tent. You know what I mean? >> I I love that. >> You have a good one every meeting. >> That's a good one. I'll write that one down. I yield. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, I'm glad you brought that point up, too, because everything we've done so far has been through in-house

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with EMS. So, um, I greatly appreciate that. It makes this process a heck of a lot easier, too. We can get this done, you know. >> Um, I had something, but it'll it'll come back to me. Uh, Ann, you got anything? >> Um, well, I did speak to Deputy Chief

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War earlier today about um the mayor's office processes parade permits. So if there's a space on there that we may want to add something regarding the uh command center. So when they go over to the police department for sign off if they feel that this command center would

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be warranted at that location just for that purpose for events they could also sign up there. I mean I know for emergency preparedness it will be used um you know for trainings and such and for a lot of other things but that may help with events like we mentioned day

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of Portugal uh the feast uh they have the uh so many activities that go along with especially the holy ghost feast in August um so you know that's just a really good event u that something like this greatly needed >> thank you um I do want to for the record

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say that I did speak to Chief Bacon fire chief Bacon and he's under the weather he has been for a couple of days now and uh that's why he wasn't able to attend tonight. He did supply me with a list um that he thought would be pertinent on the fire department's side and it pretty

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much touches upon what we've discussed which would be the the monitors, CAD mapping, stuff like that. Um the connectivity with Wi-Fi was one thing that he had mentioned. >> That's something that the uh IT department our IT at the police station is working on with that rack.

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>> Excellent. >> And there'll be multiple um multiple different Wi-Fis. >> All right. You also mentioned the exterior camera system, telescoping, um exterior lighting. Um what do we have for exterior lighting on that? Now it's

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red, right? Didn't we discuss going red and blue? >> I think we discussed that it has red lights. We were going to we have to get permission from police department. So, we were going to try to do the red and blue combination on that trailer and just alternating lights. Um, and I think

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Chris is working on trying to see if he can locate what kind of options we have for the telescoping lighting. >> Okay. >> And so that we can do that. >> All right. I'll see how we can get permission for the blue lights. I'll try to figure out how we can >> give you that right now.

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>> Thank you. Um, yeah. So, everything's moving in the right direction. Uh, Chief F. Um, so I think that we pretty much um between Deputy Rutder and I, we've uh done a pretty good job of trying to um make a

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list of what we felt that we were going to need. I did talk to um Ala today and we had discussed um because they just did an awning on the library um mobile unit. So, when our truck the trailer comes back, we'll see

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um if it's something that they think that they can do or we need to send out to be done. I feel like since it's spring and it's camper season, I think that the turnaround is going to be difficult. >> Okay. >> But he said that um him and his department will look at it to see if there's something that they can help and

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see if we can get it done relatively fast because as you were saying today that you feel like the sun and you don't want everybody out in the sun getting overheated. So, um, I did talk to our maintenance division. They saw said that the jacks that we currently have on the

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trailer are not really ever been a problem as far as leveling the trailer. So, I felt that the um awning should be the priority versus the self-leveling jacks. I think we're going to try to do it out of what we have for funding this year. Um, there is we need

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one more monitor. I believe one we wanted to put one more monitor in there. So, um, we can get that done. So, I think we should be able to um wrap this up and have it ready for action when we when we need it for the gates of Portugal. It should be ready to go.

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>> Excellent. >> Thank you, Chief Council Posa. >> Yeah, I just had a question. When it comes to manpower, so you mentioned the parade permit and this getting added to it at some point and I guess to all the chiefs that are here, does it add a necessary additional manpower if it's utilized in a in a civic event? So, I

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think there's some collective bargaining connection with the mechanics at the fire department that have the rights to move that or are the servicesers for that trailer. >> Um, as far as how we man that, I think one of the things that I've been working on and Captain Platt from our agency is

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kind of coming up with like uh a plan that that scales as far as like police resources. uh because we're getting events that go from either four to 500 people to five to 6,000 people. So, it's almost like I envision it to be kind of like a trifold uh brochure where

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someone's going to have an event here. What's the what's the looking at as what's the attendance look like? And then this is what we need to properly do this and be secure. So, we have a couple events that the July 4th event that's going to be down at the waterfront. We have a seafood festival coming up on Memorial Day weekend. That's unique

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because the DCR uh oversees Heritage State Park and there's some territorial jurisdiction issues. Um and we met with the state police today in a a collaborative effort to plan for that seafood seafood festival. That's a not like a whole weekend event. It's a you

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know I think it's four or five hours long. Um, but we're kind of working on a footprint as far as what we need to propose to people as far as police resources because sometimes it gets misconstrued where they're like, "Oh, can't you just do it with like four police officers and one sergeant?" And

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it's like another event is getting a different footprint as it relates to coverage. It needs to be standardized because there's a cost to do that and we want to make sure we have the resources in place. I think I can speak for all entities that we'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have

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it. Makes sense. And let me just ask you a followup, acting chief or is the any events that happen at the Norton Pier. Is there anything that needs to be in that command center that's particular to possible water issues? >> So, I think Chief Bacon had brought up in the past that that trailer has been

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used for like their water rescue operations. So, I think given something that's near the water, if there's something happening, I know there's going to be the poker run coming up. Uh there's an event planned down by the gates of the city for that uh with Bard and Light Marina and what have you. So I think depending on where it's being

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deployed and what the opportunity areas are, then yeah, it could be equipped to have that stuff there. Um, but as far as the peer is concerned, we have to speak with the RDA on as far as what they're looking at from us. But I would envision the same thing. If it's a peer related event, here's the standard plan and it

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scales based on attendance. >> Okay, that's good. Anybody else want to add to that? I feel like if the poker run is going to run like it's run in the past and it's going to run from the tipsy seagull, there's no way that you're going to get that command trailer down there. So, logistically, we just have to look at,

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>> you know, the biggest bang for your buck. We still have that little ambulance that we >> um we use at the events and so that'll still be deployed with the trailer. So, we'll have those both of those available at the events. And he um Chief War has,

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you know, men on bikes. We have men on bikes or people on bikes, so we we should be able to uh handle it really well, I think. >> Do do you all envision that something like this will be in play for like, for example, July 4th at this point? >> Yes, sir. >> We're shooting for May 16th.

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>> Even better. It's great. Thank you all for this. This is excellent. >> I think the first the first dry run could potentially be that seafood festival because it's a short short I wouldn't say short event, but it's not a week long weekend long event. So we can put it out there, get some repetitions through it, and then get some feedback

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on that because we've put we've deployed with EMA before down near the carousel. So we were already speaking with the organizer of that event of where the footprint of this will be, where we can put it. So if we standardize that, hey, if the July 4th event is going to be down uh at the carousel in the park,

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this is where we're going to have the police for resources. And the same thing with the state police, they're just like, hey, tell us where your target area is and then we'll deploy there as well. And then that way it's like a public safety courtyard if you will. >> Excellent. Thank you all. I yield. >> Okay. Thank you, counselor. I uh I can

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add to the point of the water response. Um Chief Bacon did mention to me that his scuba divers currently um when they go out, don't have a place to change back and forth in and out of their scuba gear. So, we could even the trailer could, you know, serve that purpose as

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well. Um I think that this trailer can obviously wear multiple hats. um and definitely assist these agencies in a very fruitful way. Um anybody have anything else? So I know that we we had had discussions today about um the date that we were

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going to bring this out. Um that is still up in the air, but I can say tenatively that May 16th date um even if we were to shoot for that, it seems like we're well on on track to accomplish that. So I appreciate you guys. Uh if there's nothing further, do I have them?

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That would be for the CDR block party or the seafood festival on the 25th. >> So I know you had mentioned the city wreck block party, but I don't know if there was a place to park the trailer during that >> of some of the concerns because we're going to be starting the demolition of the old police station as well. >> Okay. >> So that area is

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>> No, that's that's the old 45 rock that building, right? >> And and that's the May 16th event. So, if we can get um the awning and maybe get things consolidated, if everybody agrees, then I think maybe we could do a press release and I think make the make

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the citizens of Fall River aware of the fact that we're taking this proactive approach to try to make sure that when this trailer is there and we're having an event, it's so everybody can be safe. Mhm. >> I also think to Ann's point that um if it doesn't necessarily need to be

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standardized in every event that someone has in the city because there's there's limitations to where that trailer can go. So I think when the when an attendance to an event is expected to be somewhere you know in north of uh 7 800 people then in depending where it's at. So the gates of the city again I

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envision that this is the operational plan for gates of the city. That's an event that's like the, you know, fair grounds of Forever, if you will, and then it scales based on the size of the event. But, uh, trying to get that trailer, like I wouldn't be using that trailer from a police perspective for at

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the scene of a critical incident like, you know, a homicide or something like that because if it's on a tight roadway, it's probably more work to get it out there and set it up. Uh, we would probably just use our smaller mobile command post instead because it's more functional for that. So I think it really has to be spelled out in the SOP

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like what's the limitations, what is the purpose and that way it doesn't get convoluted to when we can use it. >> Okay. >> Just one one more thing I just would like to um acknowledge that um Debbie Aruda did get that design done and did get it to the to that place pretty

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quick. Kudos to him for >> Yeah. Know it was like two days because I think we talked for two days and it was already in the work. So >> he works fast. >> Yeah. No, I like that. Thank you. Um, one thing that did catch my attention um, in the conversation tonight was that poker run. That's the cigarette boat races.

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>> I would really like to see if we can do some proactive homework as to where we could put that trailer down there because I for one think that if let's say god forbid something happens down there, it's not going to look good if we just

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create I'm worried about the water, right? and this that type of situation, how to get in and out if there's an emergency. >> There there's this one confusion on that. So, the poker run does its thing on the water, which is makes it a complicated event because we've had issues out there before where there's

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been accidents, but the poker runs expanding to have an actual event at the gates of the city that's going to showcase all the boats, kind of like a boat show type thing. Okay. >> So, that's what I was referring to, not necessarily what's happening out on the waterfront because I think logistically, uh, Mr. Lond would probably have a heart

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attack if we try to park that down at the the >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't think he'd like that. >> No. So, I think >> it's got a nice big parking lot across the street though. >> It's not just 10 bucks to use it. >> But logist but logistically it's it splits up your services, right? Because for EMS, we have to be worried about because I think both Mike and I have

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both had um people that have been significantly impacted by their boats rolling over. So, um it'll it'll definitely split um how our response is somewhat. So, that'll have to be planned. >> Okay. If there's nothing further, um I'd

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like to maybe >> depending on the um Go ahead, council. >> No, I was I was going to say maybe we want to table because I would like to hear more information after it's >> put put together, done, and utilized, and then maybe come back and just have a discussion about, you know, what were

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the goods, what are the things we need to work on, if there's any support from this committee or the council we need to put forward, we can do that. So I'll enter I'll put forward a motion at table. >> Second. >> Uh with the motion being made to table and seconded. All those in favor? >> I I to motion to adjurnn has been made.

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Second. Seconded. All those in favor. I the eyes have it. >> Thank you guys. I appreciate.