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Part 1 (Video ID: aMH-e-gDNjw):
- 00:00:00: Meeting Called to Order; Minutes Approval
- 00:01:00: Massachusetts Electric/National Grid Pole Installation Discussion
- 00:10:28: Continued Pole Location Discussion and Vote to Table
- 00:12:03: Curb Removal Request at 53 Adam Street
- 00:13:59: Neighbor's Objections: Negligence, Parking, Water Runoff
- 00:24:47: Engineer Explains Site Plan Requirements & Approvals
- 00:32:34: Discussion on Redesign and Permitting for Curb
- 00:42:45: Curb Cut Concerns & Resolution to Table


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City Committee on Public Works come to and transportation will come to order. Clerk will call the role. >> Council Daniel >> here. >> Council Hart >> here. >> Chair Chimera >> here. We have four items before us today. Um Oh. Pursuant to the open meeting law,

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any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting through any media. Attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether perceived or unpersceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged. and permissible. We have four items before us. First,

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citizens input time. Has anyone signed up for citizen input? No one has signed up for citizens input time. So, we will go on to item number two. >> Motion to accept the minutes, >> which is accept the minutes of February 19th 2026. >> Second. >> Motion to accept the move minutes have

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been made and seconded. All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Item number three, order of the Massachusetts Electric Company doing business as National Grid in Verizon New England incorporated at Locust Street. One new jointlyowned pole location

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referred on 414 2026. Do you want to come down? Are there any objections to this item number three? >> Why do we have come down? And just to clarify, >> where's that Locust Street?

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depends on what how you doing. How you doing? >> Good evening. >> So, initially we have an object to this. >> Yes. >> Yeah. This was the objection. >> Okay. Are you familiar with the objection that was sent to the council? >> I thought you would have been given this already, but I guess this

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>> That's all right. >> I apologize. >> That's okay. It was sent in to the council. We asked if >> Oh, this was sent in by the >> Yes. Okay. >> Have you had any conversations with the ab. >> Okay. >> Could you just look at his concerns,

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please, and let us know if that's going to be okay or if worst case scenario, we can send it back to the council for to recommend approval and then if he is dissatisfied, he can show up at the meeting. >> Okay. Is is that person excuse me,

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>> C? Huh? Is that person here? >> No. >> If he wasn't >> and they and they didn't contact you. >> No, they didn't. So I I >> Yeah. Well, so they wouldn't contact them. Did they do the proper procedure which >> Okay. you want to take a quick recess or you

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>> No, I I I I understand, you know, um just like every other putter who or National Grid or Verizon um requests a new poll. Um this poll doesn't immediat like it doesn't sit directly in front of their house. Um

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there are two poles to the one to the left, one to the right of the front facing part of the house. We're installing one intermediate. Um it happens to be probably 10 if you're looking directly. It's in the sidewalk in line with the other poles. It's probably about 10 ft um from the corner.

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So it doesn't block their view, you know, directly uh to the road, but it I mean >> does it imp from where they from what they're stating it it it um what's the word they used? Um >> could it move to another location to

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appease them? >> So ultimately yes it could. But before before I say it can, >> right, >> the the reason >> would you be would you be comfortable with us tableabling this >> to try to work an alternative out and see what we can do to help these people

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if they have concerns about I think it's legitimately whatever we can to make it easy for them instead of just saying let's just approve it because they didn't show up let's try to see if we can >> make it easy for them they they live there >> there's no poll there now if we're going to do this let's just see if we can >> all right work with them count

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>> so you we'll invite them as well >> well we can but I mean even if they don't come it's pretty simple what they want to do and just if we can come to a compromise and make it easy for them then why you know what I'm saying let's help them >> yeah I mean I don't think >> you yield council >> yeah I yield y council can >> thank you uh I I don't think you know we

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should require the resident to come here when they've entered a written >> yeah no one's saying we didn't we're not going to ask them to come here >> okay >> I guess uh can you show me I went by the area it's just down for me can you show me where the pole location is relative

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this is the corner uh this would be the house What's going on? >> Um, it's actually I could show you a light. I know it's like a still picture >> and just a just a point. I'm sure I don't want to invite, but I'm sure they might want to >> they would like to come in, but we they

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don't have to. Of course. >> No, I I agree. We know what the concerns are. >> They were invited. >> Yeah, they were invited. They just Okay. Didn't come up. And it could be a number of reasons. We don't know. So, >> this is the front of the house.

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be in this location right here to the front lefthand corner. >> Okay. >> So, there's the existing pole there and then this existing pole that you showed on your your photo there. So, it'll be like I said probably about if you're looking dead on, it's probably about 10 ft left of the the front corner where

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they their service drop comes off the line is probably right there. >> So, what's the harm if we don't move forward with this uh to national grid in terms of impact? what alternatives would you guys uh >> I don't think it would harm so how how

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this location came to be is really all luck of the draw um so we're we're spending substantial amount of money uh improving our our circuits and our reliability um and really I can go into the nitty-gritty of it um the little

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details but ultimately it came down to the way we the way the company designed this um we're putting up these reliability devices uh to handle 500 customers in between. So we're putting up dozens and dozens of these in the city and our local area,

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Swansea, Westport, whatever. Um and the way it was designed is to have 500 customers on one of these devices. So if if something happens to the feeder, we would lose 500 customers and pick up 500 customers from another area. But in the worst case scenario, we would lose 500

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customers. And how where it came down to is that on this side of this pole and where this device is, there was 502 customers and on the other side it was like 501 customers. So it just happened to be that ideal location where um >> ideal for you guys, not necessarily for the home.

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>> Right. Exactly. But that's that's the chance that we run and then we run, you know, we we come across these meetings and we have to work them out. So and that's why I'm here. So would you be okay if we table this and what you can do and maybe move location come back to us at another time with a different >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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>> I I actually I before I came to this meeting I I if if it came to this you know if it came to where the customer or the city council um didn't want us to put this pole location here um we could we could find another location. >> Okay. So let me ask you guys this question. Right. If we table the

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constraints committee do you want to send it back to the full council and see what their changes and recommendations are? This way if they need to do anything, we can just >> Well, I think if they had to change the location, they'd have to file an entirely new application. Correct. >> Possibly. It it it may it may require setting a new poll in front of somebody

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else's house and we might run into the same issue. It may require putting it on an existing poll and we may not have to come back yet. >> So I I still um so I think for me we don't see written objections too often from

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residents. Uh I think you know 90% of these or more go through without any uh issue. Uh I'm inclined to I think recommend to withdraw on this one and ask uh National Guard to go find another location for this. >> That's I think I think that's you know a

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motion. >> That's my motion. Yeah. >> Motion you leave to withdraw >> and you're you're fine with that? >> Yeah, I think so. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Should second >> you can resubmit it. Can can we can we table this and I get a confirmation because I I wanted to come up with an

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alternative in case something like this happens. Can we table it and come back and I I get a I get a like stamp confirmation saying, "Hey, yes, we can go through with this." And then come back and uh or at least send an email saying, "Hey, we can we can um we can design it this way without having to set the new poll in front of the house."

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>> I mean, I'm against the the poll in this location. So, you know, that's my position. I don't know my colleagues feel. >> Yeah. So I think everyone is but we're saying to just expedite it. We just I'm not against I'm not dislo and then they want to resubmit it. You can always put that file

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>> right but it does have to come to this council have to come to the committee again to full >> resubmited but what I'm saying is if you table you can always bring it up again and then end up putting in a new one. >> No I know that but they have to bring it up in committee not in a full >> in committee >> but it gets it would get sent back to

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get sent to committee from the full council. >> Okay. Whatever you want to do, it doesn't matter. >> Okay. >> The motion is to give it leave to withdraw. >> Okay. >> I don't I don't see that being an issue. Um Okay. >> Could I just Could I get an email? >> Say you're saying two different things.

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>> Okay. All right. Okay. So, >> and I want I you know, I know the issue with >> We're trying to work with >> No, absolutely. And and and we'll work with the customer. No problem. So, >> I I do have I do have word that we can relocate it. I just want to get confirmation that it can process through

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you know we can do it on our end 100% because it was just a a phone conversation that I had um you know for this I was preparing for this meeting um so can I I can I can go ahead tomorrow and send an email and and and get a full written confirmation from

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them and then I can send an email to you saying hey we can relocate this without without another hearing or or with another hearing. Can I can I do that? >> That that's fine. I I won't second that. I'll I'll make my original motion the table. >> Okay.

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>> But we can leave this we can leave this meeting tonight and say this poll is not going here. >> So >> we can say that. >> Yeah. Cuz I'll tell you right now, you don't have the votes. >> Yeah. Right. Okay. >> So regardless, but I try to make it easier for you guys. We'll table it, have the discussion, figure out what we're going to do, find a location, change up. That's fine. >> So you make your motion is to get leave

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to draw. Correct. You're not going to withdraw the motion. >> Okay. There's no second. Well, >> is it motion the table motion? Motion to table takes pre anyways. >> Okay. >> Motion to table. >> Yeah, I made the motion originally. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> All in favor?

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>> I. >> Any opposed? >> Do we noted >> and and and just Mr. M just make sure you come back soon with the you know with what you think I think councelor uh probably end up getting >> you don't have the votes to get the bullet. So it's not going to happen. I

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do. We have to come back and sit at a table like this or an email be sufficient for that? >> We don't know yet. We'll probably have to come back have another hearing. >> You don't you might not have to show up as long as we support it, but we'll see. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> No, thank you. I I I I'm I'm like 99%

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sure that the alternative will be putting the device on an existing pole. So, we won't have to repetition. We won't have to repetition and and and come to another hearing. So, >> I'm 100% sure you're not going to get it at this location you want to put it at. >> Okay. No, I is just so you know >> um

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>> could could we get an email from from Okay great. >> All right, the council table. >> Appreciate it. >> Thank you so much. No, thank you. >> Appreciate it. >> Have a good night. >> Yeah, me too. >> Move on to item number four. Order the curb removal. Jessica Ortega Ortega

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Urgilis 53 Adam Street, Newark, New Jersey 07105. removal of 19 ft for a total opening of 31 ft at 3436 California Street. All right. Do you want to come down, please? People who are in favor of this and also

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any the objectives here as well, come on down as well, please. Mr. A, I don't think we're going to need you quite yet. If we do, we'll have you come down. >> Can I have a seat, please? >> Hey, how's it going? All right.

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>> If everybody could just grab a microphone. Paul, give them one of the microphones. >> Oh, yeah. And then >> there you go. >> Please state your name and address for the record so we'll have who it is. >> Hi, my name is Luis Mendes. Uh, my address the address the the house or

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>> Yeah, the address of where you live. >> Oh, 53 Adams Street, New Jersey. >> Thank you. Hi, my name is Tanya Kishi and I reside at 754 Penn Street in Fall River. >> Thank you. >> Hi. Uh, Nicholas Cecilio, 44 California Street. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, you want to get a curb

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cut correct? >> I'm sorry. >> You're looking to get extended curb cut. >> Yes. >> Okay. Why do you need the curb cut? >> So, I'm here to help him translate to Okay. So, >> so what he said was he's got enough room to put in one car. He wants to get a

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cut so he can put two to three more cars in in the on the street. Okay. So, he's saying he wants to put one inside the garage and three outside. Okay. That's the only reason. Okay. Do you want to tell those objections? >> Yeah. I I actually have four.

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>> Okay. >> So, I'm going to go through them as far as I can. So, first I'm just going to state I don't think there's any confidence on my part or my wife's part that this is going to be done correctly. >> Okay. >> Um there's been my first point is just negligence on the job site. Um, we've had contractors blocking our driveway.

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We've had work performed before the city noise ordinance. The city noise ordinance says there's no loud banger or anything that can be performed before 7 a.m. and after 10 p.m. We've had 5:30 wakeups, 6:00 wake up, 6:30 wakeups. >> Um, trash and debris from the job site has gone to my yard and neighbors yards.

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I had a bucket of nails dumped into my yard where I have a 9-year-old daughter and a dog that go out in the yard and I had to pick it up. We've we've had other debris in our yard and we asked the contractors to pick it up. have, but how long I don't know how long it's been there. Um, there was an actual fire on

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the job site about a month ago that him he he was basically unaware of. I hopped up on the retaining wall and started with my hose, yelled for him to get out here, told me to get off his property. I stopped hosing it. He continued to hose. That's fine. But then

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there was still smoke and amber next to a 30 foot uh tall pine tree. And it was windy that day. So any amber would have hit that pine tree, that pine tree would have went up and affected a lot of houses in the area. Fire department was called on public record. They came, they showed they took care of it. >> Um, also to the city, inspectors made

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basically visits to the site because just trash and debris, the urine bottles when they >> inspectors have been as of last month, I think April, right after the fire, >> right? >> So they've been there. So there's probably a record of it down in the inspector's office. >> That's the first point. The second point is there is a curb opening. They already

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have one. I think the fact that they built the garage opposite of the curb opening, I mean, that's their decision, what they wanted to do, but it just doesn't make sense that you would put a garage 19 ft away from a curb opening that you already have. Also, too, the curb opening, the curb they want to remove, the gas company who replaced gas

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lines about there 3 years ago, repaved that area. So, that's like fresh paved like city street now, nice and smooth, you know? So, they want to dig into it. I don't have confidence that they'll do it right because when they connected to the sewer and the gas lines, they had to

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dig into it and there was they had to repave multiple times. Like the first time they did it, they put the pavement down, pavement sunk, they had to come back out and redo it. Uh the third point I have is the loss of two parking spots in the street by removing this curb. Now 44 California Street is a dead end

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street. There's uh little under little over 25 houses on it. Half of them are multifamilies. When there's a parking ban, everybody parks on the side of the street where you're trying to remove the curb. So, you're going to lose two parking spots by doing it. And the last point I have, which is the most important point, California Street is a

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downward slope street. It's a dead-end street and it's downward slope. The water flows from the top to the bottom. I'm the third house from the top. The water, if they mess up this curb, this water is going to travel through their driveway onto my property. I have a little retaining wall, like probably a

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foot because that's where it ends. that water is going to come right down that driveway right into my property and possibly flood my basement. I don't know how bad we've had bad storms. You all know that. >> True. >> So, that's the most concern I have. The biggest concern I have because if they do this incorrectly, that water comes into my property now and that's a

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problem I have to deal with, which I don't want to. >> Gotcha. The crib that's there right now, that doesn't affect your property at all? >> No. >> Okay. Just real quickly, did he understand all that or did they need to tell him what what he said?

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Just certain parts of that. >> Do you want to tell him what he said? >> Were you listening? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Go ahead and tell him. Department. You left out the part about the five o'clock wake up. After 10 o'clock,

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Anton Fore! Foreign! Foreign! construction. Premier speaker. Okay. Okay. Can you just translate those two so they'll know what exactly he said those two points? >> Yeah. So, first thing he's saying is

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that uh he was aware of the fire. It happened when he was present in the property. Um his he has two sons and they were here with him for that uh week of vacation time. Uh they did like a little small

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>> like a little small fire like to lit up fire. Um the neighbor must have seen that he came. The problem was that he came unannounced it seems like and he himself took went opened the door went through cursed at him said you know

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>> he went into his house and he says he was cursing at him swearing at him so he told me to get out of my house >> and that's why he told him to leave he apologized what he's saying that's fine just interpreted >> and I won't object to the swearing but I said you need to get the out here because you have a fire that's exactly what I said it wasn't in a threatening

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or sudden but like when you come home from work and you smell fire. >> Sure. >> And you go let your dog outside and you see a fire unattended regardless who said it. It was unattended. It was a windy day >> and even the the firefighter said it to him. It shouldn't have been, you know,

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>> I don't I don't I don't I don't discourage a threat wasn't made. It was just get the out here. Okay. Department He said he said he was sorry and he didn't mean it and then he wasn't all right. So he also said that the workers

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there haven't started working before 8:00. Sometimes they get there prior, but they're not doing they're setting up at maybe 7:00. They get there for the most part, but there's no compressors or nails going on to >> just a rebuttal to that. This project's been going on for over 9ine months. Started back in August. It's now May.

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It's still going on. Um I have neighbors that can confirm that this happened. >> Okay. I've talked to them before I came here. They obviously couldn't make it, but if I need to get sworn statements or written statements from them, I can. >> Yep. Okay. Right. So what he's saying is that with your

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concern about the downhill and the rain coming in and the curb not being done properly, he can do something and change it somewhere. Not that we're going to let him do anything he wants to do. The engineer is here for a reason. So you can come down. Dan, you want to come down now? You might be able to help out the situation if it even happens at all,

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but >> let's just >> So first of all, I have a couple of questions. Number one, if the garage is on the opposite side of the driveway now, can he get a a smaller driveway put in there without permission from the council or does he have to get

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permission if he wants to get a 14 ft curb? >> Sure. So, um, let's back up a little bit. This project has been through site plan review entirely. This is a construction of a two family home. Requires four off streetet parking spaces by zoning orders. >> Requires it. >> Has to have

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>> So, he needs the clip remover. Their engineer designed it in this manner where there's a garage space and then there's three spaces in front. >> Okay? >> Two off to the side and one in front of the garage space. Okay? >> There is currently a 12ft opening. They were removing four or 5 ft of curb to

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the left of the 12t opening and then the remainder of the new 19 was to the right of the existing opening for a total of 30. >> Gotcha. >> So first of all went through rigorous design, rigorous grading, curb opening, all of that. Part of this approval

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requires that they reconstruct the road from curb to curb. So as far as roadway re >> at their cost, they will not get an occupancy permit and and I am very stringent about this. When a contractor comes in to build a house somewhere or a private citizen before we used to have a

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gas trench, a water trench, a sewer trench, and we'd have this hodge podge of trenches that would all fail. >> There's no more of that. We go from the outside of this utility trench to the outside of this utility trench and go curb to curb. Totally have to resurface the road. So, the road's actually going

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to be in better shape when the project's completed. >> How wide is that road? >> I don't know. It's probably a probably about that. It's a 40 foot layout and then >> okay, >> stand standard size width. Um, but that is in their site plan that is on their site plan approval as a condition of

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approval. Okay. Um, one thing I would also note, and this is in all of site plans, especially where the cut is requested to be larger than 16, the applicant is notified immediately, and it's part of the approval that that process needs to come through you to get

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a curb opening of 16 ft, greater than 16 ft. They were a little bit lax with when they filed for this. This should have been done before they even started building because now there's no guarantee that they're going to get it. So, could their engineer come back and theoretically design it differently and

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only have the 12 foot? Possible, but it may be worse for the neighbor because they could now have to park along the grass strip that's along the right side of the property. And as far as the drainage goes, we've required that this entire parking area is porous asphalt to

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make sure that this is not creating a runoff problem and a lot coverage problem. So I can guarantee you that they will not get an occupancy permit or sign off from my office and I have to sign off of four different lines um until this is done correctly until there

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is guarantee that there is no water problem for the abuting neighbor. That was the purpose review would guarantee that the site plan review would guarantee that you're not going to let the water >> 100%. So the gutter line has to be maintained. It has to be done by a bond either. >> Absolutely. All of the work has to be done by a licensing

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getting into the come back and do the whole thing over. >> I've heard a lot of what I heard. It's kind of beyond the scope of transportation and >> it shouldn't be in this committee. What we're dealing with so if there's been a complaint it should go to the building department. I think they have been called or there's been some some >> the issues that they have are not about

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the curb per se. >> The last point I made was >> correct. But he's going to his point is rectify that part of it. So, I can assure you that this road and sidewalk will be left in better condition >> with the curb cut >> once they're done, even without the curb

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cut. Because even without the curb cut, they still need to resurface the road >> because of the tightens, >> because of all the utility connections. Now, we made them go for that curb to curb outside of the new curb removal. So, it's it's going to be fresh from curb removal to curb removal. So, as far

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as what they need to do, can't be to a higher standard. I can't speak to anything else that that's going on at the property. Could they theoretically design this differently? That would be up to their engineer to come up with a different design, but they possibly could, but it may end up being worse. I

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would also offer that the removal of 19 curb, a required parking space, is 18 ft long. I can't say that that it would you would lose two spaces on the street. Uh, at least one though, 100%. But you're going to get four. >> But now you're getting four vehicles off

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of the street. >> Correct. >> All right. >> Can I Can I ask a question? >> Absolutely. >> What What Why with the 12 foot right now, why couldn't they use that? Why would they have to cut? >> I just said that their engineer could potentially redesign it. This is how

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they chose to design it. >> Okay. >> So, we don't design things. go through the permitting process and and what they actually had to do to make this work. >> It's fairly intense, >> right? >> Um so >> you could ask the engineer to look at it differently and could they reduce the

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size of the curb cut. Um I really don't think it would have much bearing on anything other than theoretically the space on the street as far as what roadway restoration needs to be done or worrying about that the gas company just paved that that's going to be the same no matter what happens. Um

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>> those ladders have to be put in us. >> But even if they do all the paving stuff, is there somebody in the city that comes and inspects? >> Okay. All right. So like I said, >> listen, the city is not going to let any homeowner they have to get a bonded license. >> Will not be signed off as complete until

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this work is done to my satisfaction and that's written in in their permits. >> Okay. But you did say that we would lose even though they're they're putting in four parking spots because the occupies the house, we are losing spots. you could theoretically be losing one spot

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>> cuz I know from where my driveway in curve ends, I can park three cars currently on the curb that's there. So, if they remove 19 ft, you're probably going to lose those two spots because >> Well, they're not move they're not removing 19 ft in one spot. They're removing some of it to that side of the

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and some to that. So, it's not 19 ft in one spot. So, yes, there is a section >> closer to you that they are removing, >> right? >> The implications of what they have with parking along there. Do you have off streetet parking at your property? >> Uh I have a driveway for for for me and my wife and then when we have people

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over we have people park in front of our you know our house which is usually >> but but understand the street is public parking for everyone >> right and then there are it's public parking for the residents that are also there too when parking bans happen. We have like like I stated before you know there's about a little over 25 houses

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and half of them are multif family. So when there's parking bands in place there are cars from other residents that park in front of my house and there's nothing I can say or do because it's a parking. >> Correct. Correct. But to that point, that's when it's going to really come into effect where you get four cars off the street during the pocket bed. >> Yeah. But they they'll be off the street regardless because of the driveway in

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the garage. >> Well, no, no. That's if if they could theoretically redesign this to still provide the four >> because they can get in and they can use the asphalt as parking and they have a garage. So, you're essentially still getting the cars off the street. It's just >> But right now, they have a garage here. >> They have a parking space in front of it

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and they have two parking spaces on this side >> where the current is. Yeah. I'm not saying that they can't redesign it. I'm saying this is what they submitted for design. >> That was what was approved >> and this is what was approved. >> If this commission if this board wants to have the engineer look at it for a redesign before they vote on this, then

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I don't see an issue with that either. And they can they can submit a revised plan to my office and as as long as they can accommodate the off- streetet parking spaces, then the building department through zoning um shouldn't have a problem with it. >> Okay. Do you want to explain it all to him or

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you want me to do it? I'll do it. Hopefully be easier for you to do it. So driveway. table this I'm think I'm just saying we're probably going to table this I'm just We haven't decided whether

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we're going to open it or not open it. He he can put any driveway inside his like he can put asphalt on his grass to put pockets. >> He's not having asphalt. This is porous asphalt. >> Yeah, similar asphaltto. But can he put that down now to put the

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cars on if he gets them in there? >> He can put He's not going to get an occupancy permit. >> Okay. >> Until we until we're satisfied with either a revised plan or if this gets built according to this plan. Okay. >> What what I would offer what I would suggest is that we table I will email

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his engineer tomorrow. >> Yeah. >> And explain to him what transpired today. Okay. And ask them to reconsider the design and how they've laid out their park. All right. Before we get to that, council Kendall, >> I do have a question. Um, he's speaking as a proponent, but the applicant of record is a Jessica Ortega

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of Newark, New Jersey. I'm curious what the relationship and Okay. To the his wife. Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Council, any questions? >> No. No.

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>> All right. So, two They have to find somewhere. They have to get to the space. He just said that, you know, he feels like he's this is an obstacle he's not going to overcome because the neighbor's not going to get along. I'm like that that's completely separate situation. Has

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nothing to do >> get along. I'm just trying to protect my property. >> And no, we understand. I'm just telling you what he said, not what we're saying. >> No, and that's fine. And like I said, I'm just trying to protect my property. >> Council, >> I just a one quick question to Mr. Agu. I'm just curious if they they go through the redesign, what's that mean in terms

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of the uh for the >> He wants to know how long it'll take. I thought it was up to his engineer. >> What's that? >> He asked how long it'll take for redesign. I said it's up to your engine. >> That's up to his engineer. So I I'm just looking at this. It can be redesigned. >> Okay. >> But it may not be a better design. So

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they they can accommodate the parking spaces required utilizing the the allowed 16 ft curb opening. Now again that 16 ft curb opening may shift. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Because they're allowed 16. So they can close the 12 and move the 16 so that they can get spaces in correctly.

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So I'm looking at this. I can draw four parking spaces on this with with a 16T curb. >> Okay. >> Maybe more work on their end construction wise. May require some retaining walls. It may also bring parking closer to the to the abuter's house which there is none now.

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>> Okay. >> Um on on the private property but closer to that property line, >> right? >> So >> Okay. >> But it can be done. >> Okay. He can't get the 96 ft. Correct. Excuse me.

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>> He can't get the 96 ft of No. Okay. Mhm. So the maximum you can get now is 16 ft without permission from anybody >> without coming to you. >> But the engineer has to decide where he's going to put that and to make it work. The permit you got

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based on coming off the street into that property. Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. counts as king. >> When you say 16 ft, is that uh right now the existing opening is 12 ft. So is 16 or 16 additional? >> No, total of 16. Total

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>> 16. Every property in the city is afforded a 16 foot. >> So what they're asking for is just well above what they >> which is often the case. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So they're asking for an additional 19, >> right? >> Which is big. >> Yeah. >> Oh, councel, you yield, counsel? >> I do. Council.

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>> Yeah. I would just maybe say that um from what the uh from the neighbor said about cleaning the the place cleaning this and not um put putting nails in the guy in the yard and what he's saying. I'm sure it's happening because he just wouldn't make it up. So maybe just be

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more aware of that and not be more aware but just make sure that doesn't happen. >> Of course. Mhm. Do you have something you want to say? >> No, I'm just going to say is as far as like the insp that's what the inspector came out for in April was to tell them to keep the place clean and just as far

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as nails and stuff like when they parked in front of the property all the contractors that came out just dropped nails there. I mean I've lost a tire. Luckily, I had hazards uh hazard coverage on it, so I was able to, you know, get it replaced for 20 bucks. But like that part, I think, is done because that was in the beginning stages. This has been nine months, >> right?

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>> You know, in the making here, it's it's up. But just going forward, I I haven't seen a problem yet. So, >> Okay. >> Right. But just and there's I'm sorry, one last just want to reiterate like like I just said, you know, there was cut into this

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concrete already for sewer and gas lines and it wasn't done properly the first time >> cuz they're not done. >> What do you mean by they're not done? >> Whenever you have a cut in a road, it's going to settle. >> When they're before they get an occupancy permit, >> y >> the roadway restoration needs to be done. >> Right. But >> it's not going to be done complete

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halfway through. it's going to be done complete before we give them occupancy or there's additional work that they need to do. So if they went out and just repaired the patches that they have there now >> to the fullest extent >> then you want them to come back again

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after they do the work with the curb. So once construction's done, >> they repave the whole street. >> It's always the last item >> and and I understand that but like if if you're cutting into sewer lines and you're connecting gas lines and you're paving to just just patch it. >> The patch has to be done right the first time though. Well, it's a temporary patch,

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>> right? But I think >> Yeah, but those those patches are notorious. They're going to settle. >> Oh, they they settled and it was a it was a roller coaster. >> Well, when that happens though, just call the city and we'll get out there and have to fix them again cuz they're bonded. They just got to keep doing it. Just >> It's fine now, but just it was multiple

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times. Come out and do it. >> Yeah. No, I'm coming. >> That's what I'm fearing was that they cut this curve. They keep coming out and out and out. >> Yeah. No, we're going to It's It'll be It's got to be inspected by the city. >> Understood. >> All right. Is there a motion? >> Motion table. Motion table has a >> second.

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>> Seconded. All in favor? I >> I. Any opposed? >> Motion's now tabled. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to made a second. All in favor? >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Say culture comm is now agend