Okay, good evening. I'm Richard Mancini, chairman of the historical commission for the city of Fall River. It is 6 pm Tuesday, April the 21st, and we are meeting at one government center on the first floor in the hearing room.
Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium. Attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether perceived or
unpersceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible. Our recording clerk this evening is Felicia sitting to my right and the meeting is being televised and recorded by Craig of the floor of a government TV.
Present this evening are commissioners and co-chair Jonathan Leman Lemur to my right. Uh, Commissioner Connie Soul is absent at this point. Uh, Connie Joyce Rodri, Commissioner to my left,
>> Commissioner Caroline Auburn to my left, and Commissioner Ryan Klein on my far left. And I, Rick Mancini, and our clerk again is sitting here. This is Felicia Parker. Felicia, have all petitions been properly advised and all interested parties been notified in
accordance with the rules and regulations of the historical commission for the city of Fall River? >> Yes. >> I hereby declare Tuesday, April 21st, the regularly scheduled meeting of the historical commission for the city of Fall River opened for such business and
shall resume before us. Let us begin. Okay, let's just uh we got an open meeting law notice. None. That's clear. Uh on our roll call, Jonathan >> here,
>> Joyce >> Joyce here, >> Caroline here, >> Ryan Klein here, >> and Rick Mancini here. We have one vacancy on the board at this time and uh Connie Soul is absent this evening.
On the minutes, did everyone review the March 23rd, 2026 minutes? >> Make a mo a motion to approve the March 23rd minutes. >> And a second. >> I'll second motion. >> Okay. So, we have a motion and a second.
Roll call. >> Yes. >> Joyce. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And Rick Mayini. Yes. There is no citizen input this evening. Uh let's see. Notice of intent to
demolish uh the building department requested that the historical commission review a metal garage. It was located at 2011 Remington Street for demolition. Uh the building is not on the significant structures list nor on the Mass
Historical Register nor the National Historical Register. and a letter of non-applicability was issued to the building department for the demolition permit. Alrighty. Do we have any comments or questions at
this point? None. All righty. Uh shall we go right into the correspondence and letters of support? Good. All right, Nathan, I see you're online. Good evening. >> Good evening. How's everybody doing?
>> We're doing marvelously well. Yourself? >> You're here tonight to present on you want to go through on uh do you want to start off with Chase Street, 110 Chase Street property? >> Sure. Yeah. So for 110 chase, so we
received uh the National Park Service part two conditional approval back in February, I believe, of this year. Um and so that puts us in good standing in relation to the project scope of work. Um and I
believe the expected start date for the project is about this time in a year's time. >> Okay. Okay. So, >> so we're continuing to start to receive. So, our hope is now that we have the uh conditional part two approval from
the federal side this last round, this last application round, we will receive um our first allocation for the project and then moving forward continue to receive allocations. >> Okay. And what is what's the proposal in the next few months? Are you clearing
the building out or are you just standing by? Um I I mean the first yeah first step would be to to start doing demolition work but I'm not entirely sure when that is going to start but I know that the expected start date for the project in
its entirety is about a year from now. So I believe that's probably when the demolition will start to occur. >> Okay. >> Do we have a motion for a letter of support or do we have any questions? Any questions at all from the board? I'll
make a motion to provide a letter of support. Continued letter of support. >> Okay, >> I'll second it. >> All right, we have a first and a second. >> Do we have a roll call? >> Jonathan Le, yes. >> Joyce Rodri, yes. >> Caroline Alen, yes.
>> Ryan Klein, yes. >> And Rick Manceni, yes. Okay. Uh 135 Alden Street. Uh so that is basically on the same line as Chase Street as of right now. um
needs to it would need to confirm with the because it's the same um same ownership and so whether they're looking to do them simultaneous or sequentially um still figuring that out logistically but goal is to start to because both of
these projects have large QREs um in the way that the Massachusetts state ACC functions with the allocations being minimal for each round um looking to to start the allocations to trickle in for these for both of these
projects as soon as possible. And so um but yeah, so the the project has a part two additional approval um that we received in February. And so both projects are in good standing from a
redevelopment perspective. Next step is just to to put shovels in the ground. >> Okay. Does the board have any questions? >> Do we have a a letter of recommendation for support?
>> I'll make a motion to provide a I believe this is a continued letter also, right? >> Correct. >> Yeah, it's a continued letter of support for 135 Olden Street. I'll second the motion. >> Okay, we have a first and a second. Do we have a roll call? >> Jonathan Le, yes.
>> Joyce Rodri, yes. >> Caroline Alen, yes. >> Ryan Klein, yes. >> And Rick Mancini, yes. >> Okay. Which one is next on your agenda? >> Uh, we can do 80 to 84 North Main Street. >> Okay, go for it.
>> Merky block. Um so yeah so that one so construction is progressing progressing well on that one. Um I would need to check with the applicant as to what the expected expected end date would be but I believe most of the demolition work is complete
and we are just finalizing the final design items in relation to the HC application here with an amendment that is currently under review at the park service. >> Okay. Do you have any uh idea of what's
going on with the skin of the building and the repair of that outer building? The rear building would be >> so I so I believe it's been it's been temporarily short um as of now and I believe that ownership is
um looking to hire a contractor to start performing that work but I believe they are currently bidding out that proposed work right now. >> Okay. Are they They saved a lot of that brick, did they not? I I know there's quite a stock pile back there. Are they gonna That's the
intent to reuse the original brick. >> So, they will salvage as much as they can and whatever brick that is unsalvageable, they'll replace kind. >> Yeah. It's going to be difficult to get that aged brick today. Yeah. Okay. Any questions from
the board? No. >> Do I have a motion? >> I'll make a motion to provide a continued letter of support for 8384 North Main Street. >> I'll second that motion. >> Okay, we have a first and a second. Do
we have a roll call? >> Jonathan Leur, yes. >> Jo Ro, yes. >> Caroline Alen, yes. >> Ryan Klein, yes. >> Rick Mancini, yes. >> And now we got Yep. And the last one is 650 Plymouth
Avenue. And so, uh, we just received the part two conditional approval at the park service, uh, just this week. Um, so in good standing there and so in the next few months, we'll start to look to
address those conditions. Um, but yeah, our attempt is to start to to get allocations in relation to the state credit. um start it as soon as possible. And so hopefully this upcoming round at the end of the month, we'll be able to submit and with this federal part two
application or conditional approval should be in good standing to start receiving uh state allocations. >> Okay. So when is the expected construction date going on on that building? Any time soon? >> So probably
hoping to start by the end of the year. Um but it's essentially dependent on what the allocation is on the state side for that one. Um and then logistically planning from there. >> Okay. Is that have you purchased that building?
>> I believe the current I believe our applicant is the current owner. Yes, >> it has. Okay. All right. Do we have a motion? >> I'll make a motion to provide a continued letter of support for 650 Plymouth Avenue.
I'll second the motion. >> Okay, we have a first and a second. Do we have a roll call? >> Jonathan Lima, yes. >> Joyce Rogers, yes. >> Caroline Alvin, yes. >> Ryan Klein, yes. >> Rick Mancini, yes.
Okay, Nathan. Uh hopefully within the next four, four, five days, three days, I'll get you these four letters of support. >> So, thank you very Thank you very much for your presentation. >> Yep. Well, thank you all. >> Okay. >> Hope you have a good night.
>> Yeah, you too. >> Good evening, Emily. >> Hello. How's everyone doing? >> Absolutely marvelous. How about yourself? >> Good. Good. >> So, you've got some presentations for us this evening.
>> Yes. Um I'm not sure if you have any sort of order but um >> actually our order would be Sanford Mills first >> if you if you want to go by our order. >> Yeah. So that project, you know, it's
continuing to gather allocations to um get to a point where it they can financially start work on the project. Um the owner is
currently in talks with a uh partner partnering with another developer who um is a little more experienced in the mill development space uh to get the project moving along.
Um so that once that deal is um finalized the and you know they continue to get state allocations it's a large project um they'll be able to get construction going
>> that hopefully >> that developer the partnership is that a local developer? Uh yeah, he's done several other mills in the the area in Rhode Island.
>> Okay. Do we have any questions on this is another >> extension? We I think if we have a few more of these, we're gonna have to start inviting uh Emily to Thanksgiving.
I I I would uh happily float a resolution to provide a continued letter of support with regards to Sanford Mills. >> I'll second the motion. >> Okay, we have a first and a second. Do we have a roll call? >> Jonathan Le, yes. >> Joyce Rodri, yes.
>> Caroline Alen, yes. >> Ryan Klein, yes. >> Rick Mancini, yes. Okay. Next is the Alangquin Mill Complex. >> Yeah. So I was here last or dece in
December maybe before the January round requesting a letter of support for the first time for along. Um we didn't actually end up applying to the state round in January with the timing of the
of where things were. it made more sense to apply for the federal um at the federal level first to get their feedback on the application. So, what we'll be applying to the state for the first time this
round um and uh before speaking of Thanksgiving, I mean, not quite Thanksgiving, but hopefully we can plan a get together for seeing this building and the other
building um we're presenting today. Uh because I know that we never did a walk through or anything of the buildings. So, if that's something we can plan for
May or June, something >> that would that would be good. >> Yeah, it would be appreciated, I'm sure, everyone. Absolutely. Yes. >> Good. >> Okay. Ellie, I I guess in general with regards
to the four projects uh at all, um there's no change or significant change to the scope of any of these, right? It's just >> No, nothing's changed here. Uh the the next project,
I think we only have three today, unless I'm forgetting one. Um >> the the Horton building is a new project. So >> that is one you haven't tried support. So it's not >> okay.
>> Nothing's it's it just changed in the fact that you it's new to you. >> All right. Thank you. >> So do we have a >> have a motion uh to provide a continual letter of support with regard to eloquent mills. >> Okay. And second
>> I'll second that. >> Okay. May we have a and a sec motion and a second. Do we have a roll call? >> Jonathan Le, yes. >> Joyce Rogers, yes. >> Caroline Aubin, yes. >> Ryan Klein, yes. >> And Rick Mancini, yes. All right. Now,
the Horton building is a new uh request and a fairly new building on our agenda. >> Yeah. So, um this is a smaller mixeduse building.
at 152 North Main Street. Um this is actually one that my coworker is working on, but it will be create 12 new apartments um mostly on the upper level. So two at the rear of the ground floor
and then the ground floor is anticipated to be the a kitchen cabinet showroom. Um, the building is owned by um long-term longtime Fall River resident
that owns WR Construction Company. So, we're doing this project and then the building next door um they will also be doing as their uh company or as their office building.
>> Okay. >> So, that's in the future. We're only work looking at 152, but 162 is in the pipeline as well. >> All righty. And that is going to be 12 apartments is what you say stated in there? >> Yep. >> Okay.
Any questions on this property? Do we have a motion? >> Sure. make a motion to support a letter a letter to provide a letter of support with regards to Horton building which is located at 158 North Main Street.
>> I'll second. >> All right, we have a motion on the second. Do we have a roll call? >> Jonathan Le, yes. >> Joyce Rodri, yes. >> Caroline Albin, yes. >> Ryan Klein, yes. >> And Rick Manceni, yes. And there was a a
question from Erica that might or might not be discussing Notre Dame rectory. What is what is transpiring at that property? >> Um that I mean I haven't gotten an update
from the owner on that for a couple months. So that's on pause on our end. >> It it is up for sale and has been for a while and still no construction probably. I go by there quite frequently and I don't see any activities going on
there. >> Yeah, >> I wouldn't I don't know if I would expect there to be at this point, but um yeah, I haven't I don't really know what's going on. >> Are you still actively participating in
in this building and its uh orientation at all? Are you do you you actively working with them >> with Notre Dame recctor? >> I haven't heard back. I haven't heard from them in a couple months. So, um hopefully
hopefully they reach back out and we can get back on. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Building as you see. >> Okay. Well, uh anyone have any questions of Emily before she she leaves us? No. Nope.
>> All right. And hopefully we'll see you in May or June and take a tour of these buildings. Uh we'll we'll push that. Is there anyone one that has a particular time or evenings, afternoons, Fridays,
>> later in the week? Okay. >> You would suggested a a Friday and maybe a Friday afternoon. Is that what you had suggested, Emily? Um, I don't know if that would be my preference, but >> Okay. What would your preference be?
>> That >> What's your preference? >> I don't I don't have a I can make a lot of things work, but um I don't know if people are local. We could do lunchtime. you can do
if if getting off of work is more challenging if come at a later point in day or morning. Yeah, as long as not too too early in the morning might be a little difficult.
>> All righty. No specific time. I'm sure we can >> Okay. It looks like it's wide open at this table. put something together for us and and u >> Okay, >> we'll make it work. >> Okay.
Anything else that you have? Uh any questions? None. All right. We'll get these letters out to you within a few days. >> All right. Thank you. Have a good one. >> You too, Emily. Take care. Thank you. Okay. Moving right along.
Uh we've had a an emergency request from the building department for the applicant at 529 531 High Street for a roof replacement. Uh this roof sustained substantial and significant damage. Uh
and I guess water was getting in and it was starting to pooling in the attic and affecting the roof or the apartment ceiling. Anyway, uh I did look at the roof and yes, even what is not seen from the back of the building, it's an it's
an old roof. It uh it lacked it was time, but the wind really took care of that. Uh so I again, one of these make a decision, help out. Uh she did have a a
shingle that was really impressive. Uh it's made by certine and uh it from afar it looks like a slate shingle. It's very very thick. Also uh carries a limited of course
lifetime warranty but limited you know but uh it's a substantial uh roofing material. So anyway, she support she I had I asked to supply that which she did and uh we sent through a a
non-applicability or or allowed the building department to issue a permit to get this resolved so there was no interior damage. Okay. And okay. Oh, I do at this point. Uh, you notice we have a vacancy here and this
is under new business. Uh, Commissioner Ashley Dunia submitted her letter of resignation to the chair and to the mayor's office. Uh, I was aware that this was coming. Uh, she did stay with us for about six months to get us moving
along again. U I really appreciate that and it's with heartfelt sorrow that you know I see her uh leaving us. She's going to be missed by me and you know so we're going to be getting a replacement
shortly and I wish uh Ashley nothing but the best and her reasoning was very sound on why she decided that she had to leave. So any questions comments? None. Okay.
Under old business, um, a proposed meeting is yet to be scheduled by the public archaeological laboratories. Uh, I did speak to Liz about, uh, week and a half, two weeks ago. and right on
schedule uh supposedly is going to be a meeting taking place uh before the end of the month uh to review all of the forms and then it's a matter of just pulling it all together. They're they've got all the basic work completed and and
uh pretty much all of the leg work is is done and now it's just finalizing the paperwork will be set. uh the waterfront cultural district and the Bank Street Armory with our uh certified legal government uh
applications. Um we submitted for the waterfront cultural district and we also did for the armry. The state uh had only 140 the state only had the
allocations of 146,000. and they had 27 applicants. We were one of the we had two of those were ours. Uh we did not make that that cut. They only chose four to supply with funding. Uh they did
write letters back telling us that we are in the running. It's was we're there. If they get any money at all, uh we're going to be back out there with it. Uh but which was very very nice is uh they turned around and
uh actually informed us of another funding source for the armory >> and uh we had to we had a week and a half or so to really pull all of that together. Uh and we did send the form in
again that was looked at uh by the 13th of April and u just about maybe just about a week ago I guess just well a week and a half ago they sent through and uh asked for some additional
information even though it had been looked at. So it looks like we might still be in the running. We don't know but it's looking good. So, we had to put through a lot of information and we're working very closely with the preservation society with this and I
must confess that uh the uh Alex from the preservation society is did the bulk of the work. He's an English major and he writes very well. So, he did put a lot of uh a lot of this together along with the photos. So, the state did
receive that. So, it's just a wait and see game at this point. Uh, but again, that's still under the u the guise of the uh city uh council which uh delegated they put a resolution together
that the historical commission along with the assistance of the preservation society work at getting some concept of cost and good use of the armory. So that's what we're trying to put
together. Okay. Uh let's see now the Ian Fire Museum. That's at 1860 North Main Street. The contractor and it's in the pile of uh paperwork that you have here. And I I shouldn't say pile, but in this lovely
bundle, uh there's a uh a letter from the window contractor stating that it does meet the Secretary of Interior standards. So uh they were given the okay to continue with the project. The original submitted submitts
for those windows had been submitted four years prior uh just and then there was a slight change in the number of the I guess the model number of the windows. at Arandac Farms. Uh there was a
question because they're doing work and we did talk about that a little at the last meeting. Uh I did have a meeting uh with the water department and it appears that the CPC
money CPA CPC commission uh is not involved with the aderondac farm building. The funding from the CPA was given for the land portion
>> and they separately funded the building. So uh and it's not listed on the right it's not listed on significant structures list or anything at all. Uh but during the meeting uh the architect
uh did state that as she pulled the plans together further plans that we were going to be involved. Uh so that's a good thing. So wait and see what happens there. Uh but I have a lot of faith in Paul Fur and of the water department that he will help us get
through this good. Um the little theater which we've been uh working with for a while, it has CPC funding. Uh they they were giving funding. This is the third amount of the third grant that they've
been giving. Uh so that building clearly falls under some provisions for the historical commission. uh because they they're mandated to follow the in secretary of interior standards. The minute CPA money is awarded, you you
have full uh authorization uh by the historic commission to maintain the significant structures. I mean I'm sorry the secretary of interior standards on that. Uh I will say that
the roof was going the suggestion on the little theater was to remove the roof and replace it with asphalt shingles. Uh actually with the last meeting we >> had a composite fake slate kind of >> thing. >> Yes. And then they came back with a
different style. >> Yes. uh and with Conniey's guidance, Connie Soul, uh they were given a contractor who was into slate roofing and he was there again a few weeks ago. I observed him. I had a chitchat and he
was doing some repairs and he he stated that the roof is repairable with slate and when he gets done it'll be good for another hundred years. That was that was a good thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, he's yet to get back with a full uh bid on this little theater, but
that's the direction that they're going. So, that's good. Any questions on any of this at this point? Moving right along. Okay. Uh my next item seven, which is the significant structures list update, uh
the Bethl AMC church. >> I'm still working on all of them. >> Okay. Um, okay. Uh, so we'll just have to uh keep working on them. Yeah, it's important that we get the the Bethl AMC
church. That that's one that >> that really has to get put out. Okay. Any questions? Any other new business that we can go back one if we need to, but nothing at
all. Do I have a motion to adjurnn? >> I'll make a motion to adjourn at 6:32 p.m. >> Okay. Roll call. A second. Do we have a second?
>> Second. >> Roll call. >> Jonathan Le. Yes. >> Joyce Rogers. Yes. >> Caroline Albin. Yes. >> Ryan Klein. Yes. >> And Rick Manceni. Yes. So, we've adjourned at on the for the next meeting
which will be May the 19th again at 6 p.m. And we've just adjourned at 6 pm.