person went to the opening meeting line any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recording or transmissions are being made whether perceived or unpersceived by those present and are
deemed acknowledged and permissible roll call john ericson joan maderas ben fidleberg ian keane also attending are sarah page executive director john cofflin legal counsel ken fowler administrative consultant and
karen martin project manager first item is approval of the open minutes open session minutes from february 26 25 if there aren't any comments on those i'll entertain a motion to approve motion to approve second second john
harrison yes joan maderas yes ken fleberg yes and keane yes thank you uh financial report karen's going to update um the only thing i was going to say there is that we've um uh started the 2024 i'm not started but they've opened
up the session for the 2024 audit and i'm starting to pull stuff together and get it in there but it'll take a while to get all the numbers um uploaded and everything but we're in the works with it and i'm hoping to have at the next meeting um which i'll give you guys advanced copy of the
um okay thank you um you guys have the march 2025 okay thank you um you guys have the march 2025 warrant which totals payments of $56,746.65 uh are there any questions
yeah i'm joan maderas yes don't mind me yeah i'm joius don't mind me and kenas a long day john
uh okay cathotic protection uh karen all right so we are getting into the thick of it with cathotic protection we um the uh it was published today in the central register that we're going to have the bid package
ready for april 2nd it's um the legal notice will be in this out sunday and it's also on combis the so the package will be ready april 2nd the pre- bid will be ready there's going to be a pre-bid on site april 9th rain or shine
and then the bid is due um april 17th and then uh depending on um hope we're hoping to be able to present at the board meeting the following week our um proposed contractor but what i want to do is give you a heads up on the scope
and how the bid's going to look so that when we get to the meeting on the 23rd you'll have an idea of um what we need to do to to make a decision so i brought down these are the draft um the draft plans uh for the cathotic protection
which um they're finalizing as we speak we're hopefully going to get them if not what's probably friday morning probably friday morning today's wednesday we'll probably get them friday morning um and to give the final look over but basically the the premise of
the work is to um extend the life of the steel pilings that are holding up the city pier so we um the order of importance of trying to prevent further corrosion is the real
thrust of the project which is um installing the anodess um and there's been a design and engineering done that we will need 109 anodess and the anodess are going to be [Music]
located all along the sides of the pier these black lines are the anodess and they're basically just a heavy kind of brick they're like 5 in wide 5 in deep by like 3 feet long and they weigh like 90 lbs each so nothing super fancy but
so they're going to be installed um all along um the perimeter of the bulkhead about a foot above the um the uh the underwater ground and that will protect
everything that's submerged in the water and the installation of those includes there's going to be a continuity weld at the top of the sheeting which is they call it it's a knuckle weld um it will include that and it will include um
testing and um there'll be some welding of the tabs to the of the anodess to the sheet piling and then there'll be epoxy put on those welds to protect it so that's the basic base bid
we have also added two alternates and the reason we did it for the alternates because even with just installing the anodess it looks like we are going to go over our budget that's in the grant so there is some contingency money but until we get real numbers it's just you
know like throwing darts on a dart board you just don't know where it's going to come in so what we're doing for the alternates and they're kind of in the priority that the corrosion um engineer wanted them in the first bid is to install what we call this epoxy coating
um to the interlocks i should have brought a better picture um the interlocks of the sheet piling which um that's the knuckle weld so the sheet piling looks it goes in and out like you
know like a kind of like ribbon candy in a weird way and the interlocks are wherever there's overlaps and that's that's part of the structural integrity of the piling itself so we will be coating what we call the interlocks and it's about an 8 in wide band that we'll
be coating and we'll be doing that in this area here which is basically 2 ft above the mean low water line which is this dotted line here up to the underside of the deck we've got pricing in our alternates for the it's going to be all based on a square foot unit price
and it's going to be in the areas where we're already starting to see corrosion and what is presumed to be the areas that will be most impacted by corrosion and those areas are right here i've highlighted them in pink it's
all the basically the southern facing exposures where you get more wave action and then um which causes more splash up above um the high tide line so that's the area that will corrode um quicker
than just exposed upper parts of the pylon but this the pink is this southern exposure and then right around here is also the worst areas so depending where the pricing comes in we can we can add
more square footage if we think it's necessary or not the other alternate price and i think they're going to be like i don't know if it's going to be alternate one alternate 2 or alternate a alternate b i'm not sure how that's going to look yet but the second pricing is what we call the intertitle area and
that intertitle area gets a special kind of epoxy it's called a splash zone epoxy and it's like a mastic it's a it's a two-part thing you ball together kind of like i'm going to call it play-doh but that's probably not going to be the best the best comparison and that's going to
be installed basically in this pink zone here which is basically 2 ft it's just where this the other epoxy coating starts and then um 6 in below the main low water line and there is some
protection in this area as the tide rises and falls because the anode the current is carried in that water but there will still be um corrosion when you know the tide is low and there's you know it's just getting splashed so um so
that's the two alternates and like i say depending on where the pricing all comes in and um how much we have in the contingency we can add more square footage or we can do some of this work later we did one of the things that we
did do proactively was include in our permitting to do the whole um the whole um project so we wouldn't have to go back for more permitting and then if we were to go out for it again depending on whether we wanted to do this would just
be potentially a you know a painting company doing this coating you would need a diver to do that um intertital area with a splash stone epoxy so i'm just trying to lay that out so that you guys understand when we bring the um
bids to get bids in for um our next board meeting so that we can hopefully make a decision and um get the project rolling so that is where this stands any questions on that can you refresh my
memory on amendment number one what what's that for i forgot amendment one for contract oh that's going to be for bid support and construction management okay karen quick question on yes that process
so the anodess that restructures the actual pier itself it doesn't restructure it what it does is it's it's a um it's a sacrificial pro process where the anodess take the corrosion it's got to do with current and it's you
know it's a battery kind of basically and so those things will corrode those will corrode before the steel piling will corrode got it and so um and it gives and in about what they say is it's going to give us 20 years of protection
that's what they yes so that's what they that's what they anticipate every situation is different um so you know they say that it should give you about 20 years of protection is there a reason why we didn't do this when we installed it i would assume
money we didn't have the money yeah that would be my guess that was a long time ago was that 2005 years ago six years ago 16 it was bid in 16 187 well now we're in the place to do it
does the manufacturer guarantee the 20 years or that's what the requirement is for the product that's being specified warranty being asked for then yeah so there's a certain warranty period that comes with that with that product this is if you if you go out most she piling
do not have does not have this so we're taking this is a very proactive measure yeah and the corrosion guy did say that we're doing it at like really the if you're not doing it right at install we're doing it at a good time when the corrosion hasn't gotten so far gone like we will get the full benefit of the
system so so i have a couple questions the alternates are sounding like unit pricing they're like square foot prices yes yeah so they're not doing it as unit pricing they're doing it as alternates usually when i see alternates it's like for a set quantity and then you have
unit prices so the set quantities that they're doing it on are the pink areas okay the sub so they do have a set quantity they do have a set i'm go back to say "hey can you do this much more at this price?" you know what i mean so i'm go back to say hey can you do this much
more at this price you know what i mean so i'm extra quantity we can do unit prices as part of it and then that extra quantity we can do unit prices as part of it and then that you don't have to necessarily accept the contractor's unit
pricing but if it is a good price then it's already set in the bid and then when if you need to do a change order you can have you already have but i think that the challenge is we're um it's not a it's it's square footage so it's tough to it's tough to quantify to
quantify right so we tried to identify the amount of square footage that's there there as opposed to like x amount of widgets right right so it's not a unit it's more of a yeah no we've done it with square footed yeah it's a little bit trickier not tricky it's a little bit un more unusual
right and so have they said like if we don't do the two alternate items whether you should go back and do them at a later date or it does it like you do it now or you don't do it at all so that's the so it's so the biggest thing the driving force panel know is mother
nature right right so mother nature's biggest can't control mother nature right yeah um so the thing is is that the anodes are by and uh far what the corrosion engineer um recommends we could stop there and that's what our original
intent was going to be but they also then suggested that if we wanted to take some extra steps to really ensure everything it would be that coating in the splash area and then um the um that heavier epoxy material in the intertital
area okay um and in the in the areas of worst exposure because the area minimum we need is in the base bid and that the others are kind of belt and suspenders type of of products that could be added and there is coating on the sheet piling
there is ex there is existing not going of you know the tide um but it's not going of you know the tide um but it's not going to expose it doesn't have the southern way back so and the same and the north side
is fairly protected too with that so um so that's why the plan was to attack those areas as a priority what was the price that they quoted for the enemies or the enemies we don't have have a quoted price yet for the bid we have um some budget numbers but who knows what
that until you get the actual bid numbers no indication or um so the for the anodes themselves they're saying they should come in somewhere around 213 215,000cl to get a really good price on that what was that including installation that
includes yeah the whole system furnish and install and everything and then there's mobilization and demobilization yeah [Music] what was the initial investment for the pier oh gosh how much did you spend the whole
pier itself the extension the what that extension this whole how much was how much was bisco's contract uh well bisco's contract was probably 2 i'm just going by memory here but it was a while ago probably
2 close to 7 million i dealt with every the whole p is close to probably 6 million what they were million yeah so money well spent protected well a lot of that was decontamination right and this is a hazardous waste probably close to $4
million is decontamination probably close to $4 million is decontamination don't forget the good news i think we're north of 790 when we think about what we spend it could be project yeah it could be yeah at the end
of that's not even that's not even counted in contract yeah okay so so really this is the outer sheathing of the pier yeah all that sheet piling
that you see like if you're if you're sitting at the cove having a drink and you look over and you see the top of the deck and then you see all the metal part on the that goes into the water that's where the water splashes up that's all the piling that'll be protected by this
and and that's the only part of the pier that really gets hit by water except for the dock the rest of it is high so unless it's a flood i mean it is in a flood zone it you know you could have a
massive hurricane and have water hit the um the top of the pier but nobody i think has seen that in memory don't put any facas on it no facas
please so so then i need a a motion to approve well wait a minute i got to talk about the amendment so as part of um moving forward with the project we need fa's um initial contract was just for the design and engineering of the system and now
that it is going out to bid we're going to need them to do help with some bid support and then actually jump into construction management and i've talked to carlos um he's a local um rep from fo and what we're initially thinking is we
could um start with a um a time and material not to exceed $36,000 for that and um cuz part of it is the unknown with what obviously if we add scope to the anodess like if we do the coding and we do the um the intertitle zone that's
going to make the project longer and there'll be more construction management so until we actually um pin down the true scope of work um within the contract we just thought at least this way we can kick off and have an ability to have them bill and feel comfortable to get reimbursed and so we're asking
for an amendment number one to the contract which john looked at today um that they will proceed at time and material billing with um they gave us their billable rates and that's attached to the amendment i did not bring copies to everyone i can send it to everyone
though but did um did the rest of the board get the specs the specs no no cuz they're not finalized yet okay so we do have the specs you know if you guys had any specific questions we don't have them yet but they're working on products
and procedures and everything so uh are you done i'm done right so so again i i'll entertain a motion to approve amendment number one of fa infrastructure and environment llc
agreement for the bid support and construction management services associated with the cathotic protection work in the amount not to exceed 36,000 and to authorize the chair to sign the amendment which karen just described motion to approve second second john
erikson yes john maderas yes ben fleberg yes and keen is okay thank you karen's gonna talk about some spit so you want me to let me announce the good news sure you go yes
okay so joe mclofflin our um licensed site um professional uh lsp uh talked with us i don't know month or two ago and agreement for the bid sport
and construction management services associated with the cathotic protection work in the amount not to exceed 36,000 and to authorize the chair to sign the amendment which karen just described motion to approve second second john ericson yes john madurus yes benberg yes
and keane yes okay thank you karen's going to talk about the spit so you want me to let me announce the good news sure you go yes okay so joe mclofflin our
um licensed site um professional uh lsp uh talked with us i don't know month or two ago and said beta the engineering firm wanted to um propose city pier as a
brownfield um as a exceptional brownfield field project to this group that um is a brownfield um
uh it's an environmental business council of new england and they give awards about brownfields of all different kinds and my first question to him was you know i looked at their website and some of them are these
massive projects text and he said "well the um we're going to get a 2025 james ferrell award as brownfield's remediation project of the year."
and so the reason that ours um elevated above others is that we cleaned a brown field we turned it into a beautiful space people are using it
and there's just a great story there and so we are invited to a celebration to receive an apex award on wednesday june 4th from 4 to 7:30 at the city winery in
boston and so we're in the meantime going to send them lots of information about um what we did we need to send them pictures we need to do a little podcast with them so we have um a
variety of ways that we'll get um recognition from this and um we're asked to bring our team and so we need to invite eight for free and then you have to buy tickets after that i think bisco
construction was eight for free and then you have to buy tickets after that i think bisco construction was was the team they're the ones that did all the they were yeah they were on they're the ones that did all the environmentals right right but it isn't just the environmental it you know it could be um
we could invite par they thought we could invite mas well par is they think par will be there with their own table right but we could so a number of us go up to the stage and one person accepts the award
so we need to talk about how we want to do that get a trophy or a plaque or something yeah some kind of plaque what we have to do is check would be preferable i know so i think beta will get more uh mileage
more pr and mileage out of it than we will but it is um you know it is nice to get recognition and i asked ken if we should agree with beta to apply and he thought we should so um do people think they're going to want
to go to this winery event it's a trek for a brown take the train i was just can you just email us all the i'll email you what time is the event
it's um 4 to 7:30 on wednesday june 4th so you may be able to tack it on to things you otherwise want to do i would assume you are going to come since you lived through i don't know we'll yeah if
my schedule permits i'll do that i thought you were buying a table you going to buy a table we get in no we get in free we get in free and it's $400 a person unless you're a member and we're not members so there must be a
dinner or something for the 400 i think so open bar or something yeah i think it's i think it's um it might not cover any we shouldn't have to pay 400 um they're assuming that we might be able to get some free seats at the par table
as well and it really depends if you want to take a chunk of time out to go to brownfield awards joan what do you think i'm just taking it all in sarah and june is way too far right now
pressing things to worry about today honestly i know so um i will send you information about that any questions or should we move on no that's great news
it is good it's good to be recognized who's coordinating with the vendors as to whether we have like disco or like who's i think she will once we give her the contact information no we have to decide which ones we want to have that's why i said once we give her the contact
information she'll talk to people for free so you got to figure out who's on the list well they they supposedly will do all that they're like logistically the people who are running the event or but we have to decide who we want to recognize and who we don't right but
once we give her that list she'll coordinate whether they're going to come and get there or whatever and how many people and all of that yeah yeah but the problem on our part is who do we want to include like do we include mas you have to i if it was up to me it'd be bisco and and it would be beta that would be
it but it isn't just the brownfield piece it's what happened afterward as yeah but so the design team was beta for the last phase of improvements mhm and bisco did all the heavy work with the guy in
regard to the environmental remediation and the sheep piling before that it was primarily testing and and permitting and then we had some issues with a couple of the subcontractors at that time and then we terminated them right
otherwise it's like a long list of irrigation no you don't need you wouldn't need those people but mas did a major you got to see who wants to go well the question is were you happy with mas right right i don't know i don't think personally speaking i don't i
don't i reserve opin my opinion on that yeah i mean that's what i thought i thought that would be a big question for whoever wants to join you need a list of eight because after that they pay include include the mayor yeah the mayor
definitely needs to be included yes who else might we not be thinking of and you need to look at the delegation the delegation who funded the thing right right eight seats would go fast eight seats would go fast much
seapport council that's really the lieutenant governor yeah i don't think i don't know yeah i don't think she would want to come they don't always remember it's the legislature that funds the programs right without the money there's no
separate that's true right okay thanks um did you want to talk about pleasant street i got to talk about northfield oh skip that we've got you off i jumped in with this award oh oh you never yeah you never yeah it's not that exciting but still an
update so um on northfield we are plotting along um we should hopefully have permitting lara should be wrapping up the permitting this week and we should be getting it the first part of next week um and uh we are going friday
to look at granite and once we figure out how much granite we will have available to us from the city um eric can start finalizing um the drawings for the the improvements on this the spit or
point or whatever we want to call it and um and then bill is trying to get a date from um gei as to when they're going to have uh the drawings and bid package ready for the moorings that new mooring
fields and the dinghy docks so we are making progress there and we're still hoping to apply for a seapport economic council grant in june for the work and we're hoping that our big one grant comes through yes marine fisheries will
come through it's a federal grant lots of people in the federal fish and wildlife have been let go so that may mean it's a slower decision makingaking process so far the
money has not been cut in that program if the program still exists our person in massachusetts thinks we'll definitely get the grant but he thinks it's possible it could be delayed all the way
until august before all the cuts started happening he had thought that we would know in february or march and now he has no idea when we'll know so our desire to just start and get going so that they'd
be in for this season this summer season is probably not realistic anymore so we're just still keeping our fingers crossed that that will come through and we're hoping that state the
state still feels that funding in the seapport council can go forward even though we know the state will need to be filling in other gaps potentially so
what makes your contact think that we'll be able to get the funding i think you said by august is that just an assumption is it well he said that in the past you know he had told us that typically the decisions are made in
march and you'll know may you know in march potentially or may or june and now he's saying that it has been known to be delayed until august and he's not giving us any guarantees he's just saying that
as far as they know the funds are still there in this federal department and it may be delayed because there are many less staff right now um but we have no guarantees so we're just calling him every month
and chatting at him so um pleasant street karen you didn't want to talk about the um the water no no no the um access that you got no we talked
about that last time okay fine yeah so i think the major news right now is that uh emily inis gave us a new revised urban renewal plan that addressed issues
that the reviewer at um the housing department had brought up and addressed issues that meepa had um asked lots of questions about and we've kind of restructured it um in in response to
that we're going to have and the decision point we're going to have the decision point we're going to have is that the lieutenant governor's office
is working with nepa and i'm in touch with them about every week the lieutenant governor's office and it's been determined that it's an administrative issue that can be
addressed to remove the requirement that urban renewal plans go through this extensive mepa process and so the question now is does emily send this off uh to ty and bond
and have mass housing spend 20,000 or more on taiin bond doing all kinds of speculative analysis about a speculative plan or do we wait and see if this
administrative fix goes through quickly and we can just not go through all that nepa process so a lot of us have been working for a year to try to get people
in the state to understand how how um how doing this kind of analysis of urban renewal plans just doesn't make sense and we've really succeeded in convincing a number of people it went in
this new report called unlocking housing that was a report the governor asked all state agencies to work on or send representatives to work on that identified all the policies that keep
housing from happening and they highlighted mepa or they you know did a good piece on mepa and their effect on housing and they put urban renewal plans in there as something that should be changed so so we're going to have to
decide we don't want to wait endlessly to get our urban renewal plan done so if we hear that they can change this in a month then we probably wouldn't want to go ahead and have tyin bond start doing
this but if they continue to not exactly know then we may want to go ahead but it would be unfortunate if we went through all of that and then it changed and we could have just waited but um so i'll
bring more to you next um meeting i'm supposed to get more real information about what this administrative solution is going to take um so that's a confusing situation are
there any questions on that no okay we've all heard way more about this than we want so the better news is that we've uh sent in uh today three uh
pro three paragraphs uh well we sent in others but for pleasant street uh we put in expressions of interest with um the state through their
onestop grant program and it's one stop because they have they're now doing it once a year and every agency that makes grants um for housing infrastructure
um the kind of work that the city and the redevelopment authority do all go in and ken puts in some for with private developers um so the city and the redevelopment authority have developed
this process where we start meeting in january and we talk about what might we want to apply for and so you do this really simple um expression of interest and then what they do is they come back
to you and say your project would not be competitive or your project would be competitive if you did this um and they tell you if you're they may suggest that you apply
in a different place so we're assuming mass development might fund one or two of these but they may say "well you really should go to the housing department or um we think that we've psyched it out and that um we know what
response they'll have but we have put in two proposals for pleasant street and they're both related to getting down into the nitty-gritty of what it will take to acquire
demolish um you know we're we're thinking about going to three property owners for numerous properties that need to be demolished so that we could build 25 unit apartment buildings and you know
we're not going to build them we're we're trying to get properties ready so that we could attract developers that can imagine okay you know you've gotten owners interested maybe we've got
appraisals done and we'll just get that process moving along so that we'll be more ready to really encourage developers to come and do development they this may involve assessing some of the rehabs on pleasant
street um and it really is to develop a kind of development plan that prioritizes buildings that looks at how how to really approach this
so um so there's a planning grant you can get that's um 150,000 and then there's another grant you could get for 50,000 that's real estate feasibility analysis basically so
we applied for both we put in interest for both we're assuming they'll tell us this is appropriate for this one or for that one probably not for both um so that's one piece we're working on and
then the vacant storefront program that the redevelopment authority had been a part of years ago um so we're an approved storefront community but they've really revamped
this program and made it far more um usable and so we are putting in a request for 50,000 for vacant storefronts and it's just a tax credit but what it allows you to do is attract
a business say "here's this vacant storefront we can provide you money for your um fitting it out for signage." and so the beauty of this new program is it's really flexible you could use the
whole 50,000 for one company if you had a huge storefront and you wanted to fill it and they needed to do a whole lot of work um or you could do you know 10 $5,000 grants for more minimal work so
um how does it who's the tax credit go to it goes to the business you've attracted not the owner so the business the tenant is paying rent the pen the tenant who's paying rent gets the tax
credit it's a state tax credit yes and i suppose if the owner of the building would it be whoever pays for the improvement i don't know that's i don't know what are you asking would it
be if whoever paid for the improvement you know what i mean yeah yeah and sometimes the owners would pay for it but cuz a lot of these people tax credits always a slippery slope as to whether or not how valuable they are to a company i know right yeah true yeah i
think unless you have you know unless you need the tax credit to offset your revenues right i think it should be a grant yeah and i don't know how feasible it really is but um whatever well it's worth exploring yeah so the the
$150,000 figure that you referenced that's for the acquisition and the demolition of no not acquisition just planning these are just planning grants so does it actually does it physically replace the existing storefront or just
they just go with what's there on the building um i think you could use these funds to replace the storefront um they revamped the program and i'm not sure
um we know all the ins and outs of it if if they come back and they say apply for the storefront program then we get to talk with people more and ask more
questions and you know get clearer and you know it's going so it's going to be a lot of work probably to find a match between storefronts and businesses and especially businesses
that can actually use the tax credits so i unless you can sell the tax credits yeah syndicate the storefront tax credit seriously then that's real money yeah then it's like 90 cents on a dollar that they could probably get in return
for so so we will be hearing in about a week what they suggest we do going forward on these and then you know um the pla the
planning and engineering department the water and sewer department had both applied for funds that would also affect streets and infrastructure in pleasant street and other parts of the city so
lots of proposals will be going in which is great so um i think that is about what we can talk about on pleasant street now um so the deval
street corridor master plan um is we have a final draft and um ken johnny dan karen and i reviewed a close to final draft recently sent a lot of
recommendations and um changes we want wanted made and today we got the new plan so we'll be going through that and it should be in good shape and
um then for the north downtown um report one thing i wanted to highlight that we talk about you know viva gives a lot of presentation when we meet on the north downtown work and
restaurant week this time includes 25 restaurants and it's april 4th through 13 and so it's really expanded and the restaurants that are involved in our
downtown in you know north downtown initiative are very involved in it and excited about it the great news about this initiative is that our new fellow nick is really organizing the group very
well really managing the meetings well bringing um a kind of powerpoint to walk us through what people had um said in their surveys were the highest
priorities and what we might do about those highest priorities which is just really wonderful and we have really active um property owners and business owners in this neighborhood coming to
every meeting and um the restaurants are now hosting us so um we went to the irish pub the st james uh for a breakfast meeting the other day we're going to townhouse next time um and
we've gone to others and bank five is really excited about this and involved and inviting us to their grand opening and really sees this as important to the opening of their new facility
and um people who are working with um uh the people who are living in um safe step but um there are some facilities that serve people who are
homeless and you know there were concerns about people hanging out at the library and different things so me leaders of that group are coming to the meetings and they really understand the neighborhood so they really spoke up the
other day about realities on north main street and safety that kept coming up so um so it's a very different um level of engagement than we had in the group we were doing for um south
main street and it's just very exciting to see how active and engaged everybody is jamie karum is engaged he's talking about things that he wants to see happen there's a lot of concern about trash and
that it isn't you have trash cans but the trash isn't getting put into them it's either being pulled out by the wind out of the trash cans or you know there's just um issues and so some of the owners
are making commitments to work more on that um and let's see there are a couple of other oh one thing that uh business owners have raised is wanting a different way for you to be able to pay
for your parking not just having to have exactly where they're talking about but we just finished with um exactly where they're talking about but we just finished with um the planning and engineering department a big parking
study and um in that parking study the connect with so i i think they're people are going to connect with so i i think they're people are going to connect with
dan and the engineering department and see if there's a linkage there that this group can kind of help the city take next steps on those more digital uh approaches to parking
payment and um oh the other thing is that there were a number of concerns expressed about public safety and people crossing the streets and you know lighting's a
concern um so for the traffic issues and crosswalks and all of that um the group is going to the um traffic meeting that you know we sometimes have here before
our meeting and asking the police motor vehicle enforcement unit to look at um safety if do crash reports you know are there lots of accidents in certain places that can really uh give you a
good picture and then we think that um the group will collaborate with the city to go for a serped grant they're our regional planning agency and they often
um do they do big traffic studies and so we may get them engaged so i could tell you lots more but i think that's enough john it's still quarters outside your office isn't it so
no that one they converted that part of north main to the kiosk the problem is it's not there's no app on the phone so you've got to walk to the kiosk put in the money walk back to the car when you want to fill it it's back you know if you go to providence or other places you can just right yeah do it so that's
what's that's what's missing and there's still quarters on bank street yes someone so there's a lot of just meters around a few kiosks mixed in you know well don't you need you can't do that here on your phone you can be sitting in a restaurant and add another two hours
to the and you can't do that here on your phone you can be sitting in a restaurant and add another two hours to the and you can't do that here so it's just a matter of cost yeah those at the time it's all a matter of technology right so the ones the kiosks that are there are not the most costly and the
most expensive kiosk right the ones that are more mobile app oriented are more expensive and then it was a big trans it was a big transformation just to go to that kiosk one step one step at a time right because people you know were used to meters and now it's you know they're
finally getting used to the kiosk next step next step is you know it's all baby steps right so uh if there's no further matters for the open session the chair makes a finding that open session would have a detrimental effect on negotiating position of the public body the purpose
of the executive session is to improve the executive session minutes from february 26 25 and discuss strategy with respect to a potential real estate transaction for property located 45 anowan street fall river the v street carter fall river and the pleasant
street carter flint neighborhood of fall river therefore i will entertain a motion to enter into executive session and we will not return to open session so move second second john erikson yes
john maderas yes fleberg yes and yes thank you