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start off traffic board meeting with roll call. Lieutenant Duoff of PD >> Stephanie MacArthur, director of traffic and parking. Natalie Melo Helen Riggo >> John point there >> a motion to approve the minutes from last month July 16th meeting
>> make a motion >> second >> second >> any opposed seeing none >> okay is there anybody here tonight that is not on the current agenda meaning you didn't receive a letter telling you to come here um that this is there something you want to discuss with the
board or is everyone here that is on the agenda. Okay, moving on. There are no curve cuts to discuss and nothing miscellaneous table from last month. So, we'll go into this month's miscellaneous request.
>> We have from Dr. Monto's office uh requesting a safety study and suggestions from the traffic board due to reoccurring traffic accidents in front of 211 Milicanin Boulevard. Is there a representative from Hello. Is there anything you want to
address the board with or >> just come on down to your name and uh address? >> Hello. Thanks for listening to me. I you know somehow I can say >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Just the name and address for the record. >> 211 Milican Boulevard.
Go ahead. >> We just needed it for the record. >> That's okay. I understand. So um I I have to say I predict this many years ago even before the construction I was asked by my opinion about the construction. I guess they ignore me. Of course, not my profession,
not engineer. Uh but after all these years, I've been noticing too many accidents in front of my office. Too many and significant crash accidents. And I can understand I know what is to have to leave the the the city and the
end of the day want to get home quick and quick to go to the bridge. Uh so the car are going too quick, too fast, not allowing people to come in or even allow to come inside the office, the parking lot or even to getting out from the parking lot. Uh definitely the speed is
Yeah, I've seen that. >> This is on Milican Boulevard, right? >> Yeah. 211 Milican Boulevard. Exactly. In front of my office. The office used to have still has two entrance and two way outs. For some reason, I understand why one of the way outs was blocked. I that I guess was easy thing to do was just
block the office but this not helping at all. Uh so all inside the office to go out everybody has to go to the same entrance the same place where we have two uh we probably should help the patients making it flexible to have a right turn when getting out from the
office. Despite of that, this is not the major problem. The the patients that people that go inside the office there, two lanes of each side and they try to turn to towards the left to go inside or then to right the sometimes one line one lane the car left or the car go in but
the second lane they don't see or too fast. >> I don't mean to cut you off. I just wanted to make sure that we're uh we're talking about the same thing. Is your concern the accessibility of your doctor's office to and from or is it >> but yes and the fact that we have too many accidents. >> Okay. The you have the traffic signals
that are right there now, right? The red light, green light, yellow light, the traffic sign >> far away, a little bit far except maybe in front but a little past the past the exit. Spite of that uh the the traffic is the city. The light is falling. Whoever comes in on from the from the
from from the the road they try to access 195 they go too fast. >> Sure I can understand. Yeah. >> Too fast. They won't get out of the city too fast. >> That's about 100 yards from your business. The traffic light.
>> Uh probably even less than that. There's two enters. Probably even less than that. >> And of course you see green. I don't see anything going to speed up that there are two traffic lights. One is probably one on the yards, another one a few yards only. Uh so there are two
traffic lights. >> You you would like two traffic lights? >> No, there there are two traffic lights now. >> Yeah, there's one right towards the uh on and off ramp and then the next one is up near canal. >> And then the opposite end where uh >> office
was the name of that street? >> Central. >> Thank you. >> Central. >> So there's three right there on that one strip of military. two two lines that I know two two two lines two two lights one is before the access to the to the braidge
>> uh and uh in 195 and another one to the Colombia street >> yeah that's >> it's >> considered a a significantly short distance I mean to be honest with you there's no real traffic control device whether it's signage or uh an electronic
device that I could implement in such a short area >> outcome is you have too many accidents. I predict I warned and after three four five accidents in a row lately I have to do something that's reason why I read I I read this letter I try to simplify the
traffic to my office outside my office and I'd like to see what you can do to try to to prevent this type of accident or slowing down the traffic people want to leave the the city uh whatever you can help to do to help to prevent these accidents
that's the reason why I wrote the letter please. >> Sure. >> Help me help help me in the protecting not only my cousins everybody some traffic some accident but actually those >> the highest level of traffic uh controlling we have would be traffic
lights and considering there's three on the um roadway of Milligan which is you know not a overly long street and there's one within >> two only two only far away if you agree nobody stop it and it's still speeding >> right. Yeah. So, what I was going to say
is what I will request from the traffic department at the PD is I'll have them run some numbers, get me the last year's worth of uh crash data that um accidents have been on the entire length of Milican Boulevard
and see where we're at. Um, as far as any kind of speeding deterrent, uh, what I will do is I'll have our mobile traffic trailers placed over there. Um, those are the boards that you'll see. It'll uh light up letting you know your speed and flash all kinds of crazy
lights when you're speeding and that helps us collect data as well. >> Anything that can help to prevent to stop this. >> Is there anything that you have in the way of an idea that you wanted us to consider? >> I also feel that when people are get we
are they put a do not enter in one of the exits from the office. Do not enter. So I have two exits. One exit is blocked right away for a sign that say do not enter for people that that's supposed to turn right. Actually probably be
acceptable to let the people turn right because it prevents the the the traffic flow towards the other entrance that has major problem. >> So if they can allow us to leave in order to get 295 just to turn right. >> Uh yeah I hear you. But I would argue
that I mean there is a propensity that now if we have multiple points of egress and ingress all that's going to do is flood the roadway with that many more points and potentially create more crashes. will uh No, I forgive me. I don't think so because you have one of
the red lights exactly before that. Actually, if they can turn right right there and that prevents the traffic for all one of the exits, if you allow some traffic to go right, decrease the traffic that goes to the other to the other to other exit.
>> Do you know when your um lot was deemed one way in and one way out when they put that sign up? No. No. when they when they when they did the construction about 12 years ago. 2012 >> not on >> 2012 2013.
>> All right. When um I have the traffic department um pull the data and place that trailer there. I'll have them take a look at that as well cuz I I I vaguely understand what you're talking about, but I I want >> I can give you some some uh >> copies if you want.
>> Yeah. I mean, if there's anything you want to provide to the board, that's great. But That's it. >> I can give you some. >> Okay. >> Can I give this to you? >> Yeah. Come on up. >> These are the but basically it's here. So they are forcing girls to go all the
way here. That's the major traffic here. We have a red light here. But we have two another exit and people can't turn right. Avoid >> they can't come out on this side here. No, they put the no. >> So if they can allow us to go to run. >> Sure. Sure. Sure. >> That's easy. Takes at least half at
least a part of the traffic goes to that exit. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Just that simplifies the traffic there. >> Sure. >> Easy problem. People that come in or people come from this line or people come from that line. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean that seems easy enough to address. >> You want to keep these or >> No, I'll keep it. I'll keep it so I can
attach it without Thank you. >> Anything else you want to address with the board? help out with me that definitely definitely too many accidents. >> Um, is there anyone on the board that has any suggestions, comments or questions for this gentleman? Um, like I said, I will have the traffic department
put a speed trailer up there um for and we'll pull some data this way uh for the next meeting. We'll have some some numbers to talk about as far as Milican goes. >> Motion at the table. >> Yeah. Motion to table. Second.
>> Seconded by John. Any opposed? Okay. >> Thank you for your attention. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> Uh representative from Cambridge Street and Coral Street. >> So this is a request
to have more stop signs at that intersection. Currently there's one stop sign at Coral. >> Correct. >> Same thing just naming >> Justin Fillian 84 Coral Street. Um, so yes, there's one stop sign now at the uh
Coral and Cambridge on the Coral side. >> Um, >> they blow through that stop sign. My wall I live on the northeast corner >> and my wall has been hit multiple times. >> Um, and they just come blowing right through that stop sign off of Stafford Road.
>> Okay. Um, so your request is to add another stop sign. >> I don't know if necessarily another one would benefit the area. Maybe just a blinking one there. >> Um if possible. >> Yeah, that's absolutely possible. Um, I thought your your original petition was
to add um stop signs on Cambridge itself, which I mean it's not unheard of for us to do something like that, but typically um when there's already a stop sign at an intersection, if the main concern is just, you know, uh speeding, we don't just
>> interrupt the flow of of traffic, right, >> with signage, unless there's obviously a significant safety issue. Um but obviously your your complaint is they're blowing the stop sign whether they're not seeing it or intentional. >> Correct. >> Um I think a good step
um initially is we can swap that out with one of the >> the light up ones. Absolutely. And see what that looks like in there >> a month. Okay. >> Would that be amendable to you? >> Absolutely. And then also the oneway. So now Coral is a one-way heading uh >> north
>> north uh behind the fire station and behind Wraid. >> It's become a two-way within the last as a year. It's been heavily traffked the opposite way now. >> That's one way >> since that since right aid put that rear exit in.
>> They just come out of there and they just turn right and head down car. >> But that's still open. That right? >> No. No. The right aid is closed now. I guess it's going to be a Brazilian market or something. Oh, is that right? >> Yeah, but they >> Yeah, because it's a oneway right to Warren Street, >> correct? >> Right. >> Okay. So, uh, as far as enforcing the
oneway issue, that's again something I'm going to pass on to the traffic department. I'll make sure that there's some cruisers out there sporadically and, uh, targeting that area, make sure people are being held accountable. But, I mean, you know how that goes when the cruiser is not there. >> Yeah. Yep.
>> Um, is there a motion to transition that sign to a flashing sign? >> I make a motion. >> There a second. >> Second. >> Any opposed? Seeing none, we'll get that out there as soon as possible. Thank you guys.
>> Thank you. >> Uh, Far Public Schools. We're looking at Westall School changing some oneways. Not even done. Thank you. Thank you. [Applause] >> John Venturo. I'm the director of safety
and security for the Fall River School District. uh 417 Rock Street. Uh so the reason for my request um for the last two years um since I've been in the school district, West All School was
called Stone School and it was all bus traffic which actually they were all smaller buses that went into the parking lot. Nobody got dropped off in the street. Uh since then they've turned it into a community school so it's all walking. Um and that intersection
um June at Maple is it's it's just I was there last year for a week straight and we almost had three kids get hit by cars. Now, some of that is lack of parental supervision, but either way, I
think just so the June Street request is to make a oneway in the the direction of the arrows, the circles with the lines through it on that side of June Street. It's just a a long uh wall. There's no houses there. And it's already you can't
park on that side of the street. It's what and virtually all the the houses before you get to Westall, I believe there's three or four of them. The last week I've been driving down, all the cars are parking the same way. So, they're they're coming in from that way.
So, I I don't think that would impact >> anybody if we made that a oneway. We're looking at we have there are no bus there's no bus traffic but in the afternoon two buses come that take the kids to afterchool programs and when they try to navigate the streets it's
just it's very difficult so I'm looking to put those buses on June Street before and after school uh coming down that one way they would have to obviously they would have to come down the one way to pick up and drive >> are you looking at just that section of June one way >> yep just from Prospect to Maple
>> and that one section of Maple >> and the one section of Maple from June uh to North Main. Now, that that that section is a little that one's um populated on on both sides after Westall down to um North Main. And then on the
opposite side, it's it's all houses. So, that that would impact more people, >> right? So, um I mean, >> reasonable enough proposal. It it sounds well thought out. Uh at first glance, I don't think >> I can think of any major safety concerns. However, anytime we start
talking about changing streets um directions or traffic patterns, uh it's a two-prong approach. We have to get your um request and then we have to get for the following meeting. The fall of a fire department has to be brought in, see if there's any concerns with their apparatus or anything that we don't
think of and obviously all the residents that would be >> in the immediate area impacted would have to be notified as well so they could have their chance to come. Um, so >> yeah, I was going to check with the fire department. Um, one of the teachers that's uh new this year uh used to work
there when it was a I don't know what school it was then. Uh, but she stated that um they had made this request once before and somebody said something that uh Maple is an alternative hospital route. So the fire department may know that.
>> Uh so that that might make that street a little bit more difficult. I just wanted to put that out there. So at this point I would just make a request from the board that we table this let uh Stephanie get in touch with who she has to so everyone >> gets a chance. So motion made by >> second
>> seconded by John. Any opposed? I'm sorry. So is there anything else you want to add? >> Nope. That's it. >> Okay. >> Good to go. >> Thank you very much. >> Very good idea. >> We'll get that out for next month and you'll be notified. >> I'll speak with the fire department in the meantime too just to get there. >> Awesome. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you.
>> Okay. Uh number four here we have request submitted by the traffic department and the PD to discuss safety concerns uh regarding President A and Highland a >> like
who grew up on Coral Street. >> She didn't hear you. I don't think >> she don't have She didn't hear you. >> Who grew up on Coral Street? Not me. me I don't know if the back driveway now if
there's a one way as the right aid lot dumps into Carl >> right >> so if there's a oneway sign there >> people will know that so if they're coming out they probably think it's two-way right now >> there's nothing in that he said it wasn't right but he said Brazilian
Brazilian market but you still have the laundromat >> oh yeah that's true that's still right >> it's still there but uh he's right people do come out there's no signage so I think If you have a sign there, I think >> I'll throw it up. >> Certainly help. >> So, of course, this intersection has
been the bane of everyone's existence. >> And just in case you don't remember, I'll use a couple of what things look like >> Highland Avenue. >> So, every once in a while, we try to make >> This is a dangerous corn traffic. >> Yeah. We got to figure out what we're going to do there.
>> Different types of modifications. So, now there are a number of that implemented a while ago. No left turns on certain streets, no right turns on other streets. What's always been habitually the issue here is that as you're coming easterly on President
Avenue, it's very difficult to make those people stop. So right now that's movement going straight across Highland Avenue, which is really a problem because nobody can see it. That lane can't see the other lanes, but that's that's the most
difficult lane to do something with. Serpent and Mass DOT have met with Stephanie and I. So, this intersection is on their radar. They're also looking into it to see what kind of improvements can be made. We've had some additional hatching painted in. We've had some clearing of some vegetation at the
northeast corner of the intersection so that people can try and see things a little bit easier at that intersection. We had contemplated and gave a little trial run of a stop sign for a few hours on President Avenue at
Highland Avenue. So heading west >> stop sign. >> Yeah, I was told that that didn't leave me. Well, well, what what ended up happening is whether it's a matter of time and other additional signage, people coming sutherly on Highland
Avenue now saw a stop sign and people stopped to their left and assume that the people coming up the hill also had one. >> So, they they proceeded without their nor you approach that intersection, your head's on a swivel, right? Until you decide to proceed, they now felt
comfortable because they saw a new stop sign. Well, everybody stopped. now I can just go because somebody coming up the hill's got to stop. So immediately it was scrap this experiment and let's let's give some different thought to it. So we're not asking you to come up with any solutions tonight. We just want you
to be part of the discussion. Um Stephanie and I have thrown around different ideas of the mayor even um had a suggestion that well maybe we stop traffic on Highland Avenue from heading south and make them take a left onto Pierce. problem being is that's major direction
to the hospital, right? And that and that's why that other section of Highland is a one way already towards. So there's been so many different configurations and attempts to resolving this. >> Um >> has anyone thought of or even um gave
any concern or if so what is the major drawback? Is it just the geography of the terrain? It's the hill >> as far as putting traffic controls >> the hill only because they can't >> parking one vehicle at the top of like at a at a red light is fine.
>> Um but now as you start coming down the hill, it's a major truck route. There are there are a number of concerns with that. Now something I thought of only just recently is that either stop sign or signalization and we'll bring this up to do. So this is coming up President
Avenue. Yep. So to give more room of a flatter landing, we could do a curb bump out, curb bump out, drag this crosswalk up, and giving some additional space to sit at the top of the hill. >> Um cuz this is not being used now
anyway. So right now, this is no this is no left turn. This is no left turn. >> Um so this is one way. So, we really haven't >> we haven't dealt with coming up the hill. >> I'll show you guys. >> We can we can put a signal in. Well, we
can put a stop sign at the top of the hill >> and if people have to go a different route because they don't want to sit at the top of the street. I drew I learned driving a standard on that street and Martine Street >> and I learned on Martin Street to sit at that light driving a standard. Not easy
>> and quickly I decided I'm not going to drive up Martine Street anymore. Right. So, but it's we want it to be well thought out. We want to make sure everyone's included. We're going to reach out to DOT and and see where they're at. They they approached us with our most dangerous intersections and
they've decided to throw all of their money in Rodman and Pleasant again and the intersecting lights all the way to CVS with redoing all of that again. Cuz when they rebuilt it, it was built on data 10 years previous to when they
built it. So even now the data that they have now is already old. So they know that that's probably our biggest concern because I think that was like the highest you know incident of uh accident cluster and traffic backup too. >> Yeah. I'm curious as to what that I mean this is kind of their wheelhouse their
um >> opinion would be. I get it's it's a hell of a hill. Yeah. Um >> but I I ultimate, >> you know, negating this issue, traffic control device, I do understand the hill aspect, but with their knowledge or if
they can think of other communities or areas that have had it and it's just kind of like, yeah, well, >> y other than the hill and having people stopped at the hill, it warrants a signal. There's no there's no doubt about it. and and maybe we get to the point that we just suck it up and listen
if if somebody doesn't want to stop at the hill, then they have to go a different route because it's it's the other directions that are being, you know, impeded by that movement. >> I mean, I think this is a great out of the box suggestion as well. I'm just >> it's a quicker, cheaper solution, right?
And that's the way we try to do things first. But >> right, but in my opinion, I look at well, what is an additional what are we going to get from that 10 ft? >> Yeah. >> What's another 10 ft? Does that solve it? Maybe. >> I don't know. It It definitely doesn't hurt, but Sure. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I have a suggestion. I think >> What's that?
>> I have a suggestion. I don't know. I was I was throwing it at um >> um these wonderful people here. So, you know that blinking light. Nobody pays attention that to that no more. Yep. So, I was mentioning I don't know if you recall going on Stafer Road going to
Market Basket. There's a school there and there's a big post. >> Yep. And when the kids come out, there's a flashing light that's very visible. This is not visible. >> Correct. Well, that's not a school but that's not a school zone light, but it could be something similar. Correct. Yeah. It could be hospital zone. It
could be dangerous intersection. There could be something else. You are correct. >> So, that could be toilet where it will grab grab people's attention. >> Yep. >> That's what I thought. >> Okay. >> I understand I'm coming into this uh late to the party here and >> Well, no. We're just really having a first conversation. So, you're not late.
>> There's been a meeting um already late. Was there um was there crash data presented at the original media group? >> Well, they have through Serpentid they they go and they get all of the crash data uh which is the regional planning group, Southeast region. So, their job
is to go out and investigate every community. So, they've already studied this with getting information because that's how they've determined it's one of our most dangerous intersections. So, yes. So, so they have information to begin with. Um that was still probably a
couple of months ago. Um so I don't have a problem with following up with them. Hey, where are you at with this? And and seeing how we can proceed cuz >> I think uh >> we definitely want to be doing something. >> When I was still working and I don't know how many accidents I had there and
uh you'd be surprised that the people who lived in that neighborhood had no idea that they couldn't take a left from President Avenue onto Highland Avenue. And they said, "When's that sign been there?" prices as as long as I can remember. >> Has it been there that long? I don't I don't remember >> forever. And but it's a lot of people don't realize that and they're
neighborhood people. But uh >> Yeah, cuz you have to go down Hanover, right? >> And I think uh I think if you do have a traffic light there coming up the hill, >> I know I'm shaking in my boots when it's snowy out and I'm trying to make it up that hill and I'm hoping the guy in front of me can too. >> So if they stop there, that's another problem.
>> Yeah, understood. >> But maybe your little bumpout coming out a little bit more help. >> All right. But we at least wanted to bring it to your attention the community can know that you know we are looking at it. But this this is this is beyond unique. >> Is there another meeting scheduled to get all these?
>> I want to I'm going to call and find out and I'll make sure that that you're aware of it. So if you want it's all Zoom meetings. So if you want to sit in and listen. This was I don't know there were probably 30 people on this call and it was to discuss like the four top locations and which ones we would like them to look at and these were the two
which was right. >> Yeah. the more heads we can get in the room, maybe someone should come up with something that no one else thought of. >> Sure. Great. >> But I I agree. Something needs to be done. >> Excellent. All right. Thank you very much, Dan. >> You guys have a good night. >> Good night. >> You too.
>> All right, moving on. Tabled handicap spaces. We have 575 William Street. >> You don't have to come down, man. We just got to review your packet. See no issues with this. Is there a motion? Motion to approve. Is there a second?
Second. >> Any opposed? Seeing none, all set, ma'am. It'll be about 12 weeks before it's all said and done. Okay. >> Question. >> That'll cost you. >> Um, my neighbor, I had a a plate there
before and she just tucked her car there and she would not move. I asked her many times if she could move. She had a hand. >> Yeah. So, I mean, I can speak to that real quick. Uh, unfortunately, how handicap spaces work on a public way. Okay, I
know it's almost counterintuitive. You come here in your name, provide all this information, requesting it, and it'll get approved, and it'll be in front of your residence, and the common uh, you know, thought process would be great, it's my handicap spot. Fact of the
matter is, it's not. It's the city's handicap spot. So that means anybody and anybody who has a handicap spot can park there and it literally becomes first come first serve. >> I don't agree with it. There's no way
around it, but that's the way it is. >> Just thrown out there. If we were to, you know, the license plate every year renewal and put the license plate to it, I don't mind people talking there. It's just they're staying there. >> Yeah. But that's the that inherently is
the problem. Yeah, that's inherently the problem. We cannot make anything on a public way belong to anyone individual. It's a public street. It has to be open to everybody. You can put stipulations on there like time frames or requires a
handicap packet. But to say that only this vehicle can park here can be done, but not on a public way. That's why like resident parking in an apartment complex for apartment 111, you know what I mean? It it's it's
an oddity in the law. >> But if they continue to use that spot, they should contact She >> can, but that res simply say, "No, I'm good. I have a spot. >> You don't have to."
>> She could absolutely nicely say, "Hey, not for nothing." But if she should get a spot and the other person continues to use it, then she should contact Stephanie so they can get their own spot. >> But they don't have to. But they don't have to. >> They don't have to. >> No. >> Good.
>> They don't have to. I even called um >> That's not right. >> I even went down to the police department and ask that we can do >> I I get it. Listen, we we deal with this >> and they just like >> and William Street is getting worse and worse.
>> Yeah, >> I have many health issues and it's getting worse by now. I for a second I'm going to be getting a moving replacement and it's going to be shoulders. >> Yeah, my listen my heart goes out to you. I'm completely empathetic. This is a very common complaint we have through
people, but unfortunately that's just the way the law runs. And I mean, the best thing you could do >> is I don't know if you have any kind of rapport is, hey, not for nothing. I just went through it. It took me 30 seconds and I have my sign. You know, I get it.
But >> at the end of the day, they can just be like, no, thanks for I'm here before you every day and now I have one. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. >> Thank you, man. No problem. Uh, new handicap request. We have 136
John Street. Hello. >> Who did we just do? Didn't we just do one? >> No, we did the tables one from last month. >> Okay. So now we're on that John Street 134. >> I see no issues with this either.
>> Motion approved. >> Motion approved by John. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Seconded by Natalie. Any opposed? Seeing none. All set there. Same thing. About 12 weeks before it's all said and done. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you.
>> And 211 William [Applause] Okay. Um, so I reviewed this packet. I have no issue with the granting of a handicap space. Obviously, there's some issues uh in front of your house being
on William Street. Directly across where we would 100% place your >> handicap spot is chewed up. we can't use it. My suggestion obviously, and this is the best we can do, so hopefully it's amendable to you. If you go one house to
the west, um, that puts you on Diamond Street, >> right? I can give you that corner spot right at the corner of Diamond and William. It's it's one house farther from you, >> but that's the closest I can put one to your address. Um
>> um yeah, you're talking about where where the times are at, right? Where it says no parking and such and such. >> Correct. >> Right across the way, it's prohibited parking and then a loading zone. Yeah, I that's already established. >> We were talking about that. >> Yeah. And it's also a bus stop, too. So, there's no parking allowed within 60 ft
of a bus stop. So, >> in the middle wouldn't be possible, right? No, because there's literally three parking spots. >> If they park with some conscience, >> do you have that picture? Um, >> diamond. Yeah. Um, sir, if you want to
come down, I'll just show you what I was talking about. >> Yeah. You go down. >> Yeah. So, this would be your residence here, I believe. Correct. The one house from the corner. So, it would be >> You're talking here, right? >> Yeah. So, this is uh William Street and
that's the closest spot. >> I do try to park there because my car has been hit before on William. >> Yeah. >> They just hit it >> and they take off. Yeah. So, we would put it on diamond. So the walk would just be basically down to this corner and then >> it's not the best but I mean at least you have a well >> for all intents and purposes a dedicated
spot. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's as long as someone gets there. No option. Well then that defeats the purpose. >> I just spent all this time and now you're just going to take my my my take my I mean that >> you know what I'm saying? But I I see it. But then it it goes both ways
because if I show up place I'd like a pocket spot as well. But I wouldn't want to h I wouldn't want to take someone's pocket spot. My mother has polio. She limps. I'm going to be like, "Oh, I'm just going to take it." You know what I mean? So, but I I see why uh something on the key, but don't do sign those
comps. I mean, uh >> this is a funny spot, too, right here. Sometimes they'll they'll hog these two spots, you know. >> They better have a handicap spot if they're going to be there. That's a $500 ticket. >> And then on William.
>> Yeah. On William, but I was told and I get it. As long as they're registered, insured, there's nothing they can do. They'll park there for weeks at a time and not move it once >> and they'll switch vehicles. >> Yeah. >> Just to take that spot. You know what I'm saying? >> They'll swap it. >> It's just like, you know,
>> but I mean, as far as your request for a handicap spot, uh, it's going to go to the board. I have no doubt that they're going to grant it. Um, it's just placement. I think looking at everything, that's the best we can do. Is that spot enough? >> Yeah. So, what's that?
No, no one speaks Portuguese there, right? No, I see where you're going. Speak Portuguese. Okay, I do. I Yes. The reason why so is because >> so on you on the side that you live on there's no parking and then directly
across that whole section that would be outside of the walk that it would take you to get to this corner would be even longer to put it outside the signage that's already >> when I park William my daughter >> her being autistic or whatever and and loud noises she'll hear a boom she all of a sudden she'll start crossing the
street and we're like we're panicking So, this would actually make even more sense cuz >> I think so as well because when we do handicap spots, we try to prevent at any point you having to cross your street to get to the spot. At least you get to stay on that side.
>> Okay. Um, any other questions? >> Is there a motion to uh accept this handicap? >> Seconded by John. Any opposed? >> Okay. And like I said, when we do it, it'll be for that Diamond Street location. And uh yeah, I guess we got
the lady there said uh what can you do? Right. Someone takes back. >> Well, I tell you what, there's going to be some person would do, right? Like, yo, >> what? >> You're not the first one. And unfortunately, the entire time that you will be on this board, you will hear
about it all the time and the next board will hear about it after it. >> I just I don't find it right either, though. Neither do you have to put your name, your information out there. You have to come >> or there should be a timer like if you know if you plan on being there all day.
I mean, have some consideration like >> then go look for another spot or you know what I'm saying? Find something else. >> My thing is this. If you're if you're in the neighborhood and you have a handicap spot, just simply come and go through the process like you had to. >> Yeah. >> It's just that simple. Now, obviously, someone comes to visit a relative from
Florida and they have their handicap spot. That might happen. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we don't know everyone's situation, but I mean, I'd be frustrated. That lady I mean, come on. That defeats the purpose. This lady's coming putting her work time in and my neighbor's just going to >> It's like I'm doing a job for you. No, you know, you get up, go to the city
hall, >> get whatever they're asking for. You do what exactly what I had to do. >> I get it. A lot of times all we do is put a band-aid over the crack. We're not We're not fixing it. >> I hear you. >> All right. Um, but 12 weeks that'll be all set for you. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Have a great day. >> How are they going to contact me as far
as uh I don't know. They just want to go in there with the sign. >> Yeah. So, maintenance will go out. They'll do the measurements. It's going to be a 20 foot spot and then um once it's approved through ordinance and council, then the signs and the polls will go up. >> Okay. >> So, it's it takes about 12 weeks complete. >> Thank you. All right. Thanks, man.
>> Thank you. >> Good day. >> All right. Uh I'll read through the resending of the handicap spots. We have Fielding Street, Slade Street, and County Street. Motion to accept. >> Motion to accept. >> Seconded by John. Any opposed? >> Second.
None. Uh, with that, I'll take a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Seconded by >> Adam. Second. >> Excellent. Any oppose? None. We are joured.