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contact the conservation commission to arrange for alternative means of real time participation. Feel like I'm going overboard here. Um,
but that's how I'm going to conclude. So, um, our first item of business is a request for determination of applicability. Kevin Kavanagh, 52 East Harbor Drive, East Mass, for permission to construct
an addition, reconstruct a deck, and replace a concrete pad. Alyssa Fallon. >> Yes. So, this application has been withdrawn. >> Okay. Thank you. No action needs to be taken.
>> Great. Then we have a request for hearings under notice of intent. Uh we have William and Melissa McKim trustees Nenah's Marina Reality Trust 306 Scranton Avenue found with Mass for permission to extend an existing
licensed stone rip wrap wall and to install restorative plantings. Melissa, >> yes I have promoted Reli from Cape Islands Engineering to present his project. Hi Raul. >> Hi everyone. Good evening everyone. For
the record, Raul Sardi from Cape Islands Engineering. I'm representing the applicant Nes Marina Realy Trust. And Mr. Chair, with your permission, I would like to share my screen. >> Yes, please. >> So, this project is a notice of intent
application for the extension of an existing license revetment. It is located at 306 306 Scratton Nav um in Famouth Inner Harbor. Um using the USGS um map, we have the inner harbor at this
location and the specific location is towards the bottom one quarter of the inner harbor along the western shores of the inner harbor. Um this site plan was submitted as part of the application which shows the
entire site and it shows the details for the proposed work. Um along the top of the page we have Scranton Nav. The intent is to access the property through Scranton Nav through the site property
lawnard areas um and access the site of concern which is at this location that I just circled. If I go quickly to a zoom into the project, what we have at site is that
the northern 50 54 55 feet of the shoreline is already protected with a revetment. That's what I just highlighted at this location. And then the southern portion of the property is protected with a bulkhead. There is a
gap of about 42 feet 442 feet between those two structures. that is natural. Um what happened last year during some storm event is that that opening between those two structures began to erode. Um there is a coastal beach here. There's
also a salt marsh at this location. There is the inner harbor which is a resource. There's land under the ocean. Land containing shellfish. Um the section that got eroded is a coastal bank and then there's the associ associated wetland buffers to that. Um
zooming in even further into the project, what we plan to do is um expose the back of the existing end of the stone revetment and continue installation of a stone revetment to completely close up
that 42 ft. Um the section uh will be sloped at one and a half to one which is the same slope of the existing reetment. All of the work it's above the main high water. It's even above the high tide line. Um and the beach once the work is
completed is going to be restored. This is a cobbly beach. So it's not a sandy um beach at the site. Um all of this is mostly cobbly um tidal shoreline. Um the salt marsh is located at this location
and the end of the existing reventment is roughly 25 ft from the marsh. So the beginning of the reventment will also begin at 25 ft. To access this point and do this installation, we will be clearing some vegetation that exist in
this location. These plantings are newly installed plantings from a a permit from two years ago. Um so all that planting will be restored once this project is completed. To share a couple of pictures
um this is an aerial using Google aerial. Um to the right of the picture we have um a marina a private marina. To the south of the property there is a residential um property. The entire
shoreline um that we see here is completely protected with man-made structures um except for that 40ome um linear feet of of shoreline that got eroded. Um some of the photographs um
from the site um this is what happened. Um we do have survey of before this erosion took place. um the shoreline or the the bottom of the bank used to come all the way out here. So, this erosion took away four or five feet of the of
the bank. Um looking at at the same erosion from the other angle, this is the portion that got eroded. This is what we plan to restore with the installation of reetment. Uh and one more picture just to look at it from
straight ahead. Um it's approximately a drop of two to two and a half feet um that got eroded. Um these are the plantings that were recently planted from prior order conditions. Um and it's going to be disturbed but it's going to
be restored um once the reetment is is installed. Um that's what I have to present and if there's any questions um I'll try to answer. >> Thank you Raul. Um,
Fallon, do you have any comments? Alyssa's not there for a second. >> Yeah. Um, I have no further comments. Um, like Raul stated, this is found within our harbor and most of the
surrounding areas were vetted. So, staff did not find any issue with that. >> All right. We'll see if anybody else has. Ronnie. >> Uh, thank you, Raul. Uh, seems pretty
straightforward and, uh, it makes most sense to tie everything together there so they can protect their property there. So, I have no questions. The staff's good, so I'm good. Thank you. >> Thank you, Jim. >> Yeah. Uh, no further questions.
>> Great, Dave. >> Yeah, Ral. Um you you showed some uh some plantings right on the edge of the erosion that seem like grasses, but there a bunch of uh uh bushes right behind too. Are those going to be unaffected? They're going to be taken out and replaced.
>> So, right. Um there is >> Yeah, there's a combination of of bay bberries. I believe it is. Um there's some some other woody shrubs in the area. The intent is to try to avoid um the the shrubbery. But of course, if the shrubs is is already part of the the
area that we're going to be um digging because we we are going to be digging to set this first toe stone which is partially buried. Um so it could be that some of these shrubs will have to be removed. But one of the typical um conditions that usually carry this type
of applications is that photographs u before and after are presented and that an on-site u meeting is um takes place with the agent. Um so the contractor will review if he can feel that he can avoid all those woody shrubs and and
other bigger material or bigger vegetation that's in the area that is definitely better. it's easier to plant the grasses and it's faster for the glasses to take place and control um the loose soil. So, if we can avoid the shrubs, that's what we'll do. >> So, you try to avoid but if you have to
take them out, you will, but then you'll replace them. >> Correct. >> Right. Um I noticed in in the writeup and also in the diagram, is there some dredging mentioned or is that a separate project? >> So, right. Um there is a prior permit. It is still valid. It has not been acted
on and it's for dredging. So the project I believe it was last year was to to dredge the area in front of the site. Um it has not been completed or or started because it is still going through the water quality um permitting process. Um
I believe that is happening this spring or or late this winter. Um so that project has >> has not been done. It is permitted. something that we're taking advantage of that is that there is going to be a seal curtain in place for that particular activity and that will protect the the
harbor. >> But that but that's a separate project. >> It is. >> Okay. One last question. Uh to access you're going to have to come in from the road on the right as you're looking from the water on the right side of the house. You have to take some hedges and bushes down there, but those appear to
be outside of of of uh of zone B. So those appear not to be under our our uh our purview. Does that sound right to you? >> You're correct. So So yes, just off the shoulder of Scranton Nav, um we're going to have to go over a little wall. There's a little It's not a retaining
wall. It's just a wall, a stone wall. So they're going to build a ramp over that. And on the inside of that wall, there are some hedges um and some ornamentals. But it's just outside the buffer zone B, so be under 100 ft. >> That's it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dan. Um, actually David
covered the question that I was gonna ask. So I'm all set. >> So often happens. >> Um, I don't have any questions either. >> So >> I'd like to make a motion to >> to >> please
issue an order conditions as discussed. >> No, I'll second it. >> Great. >> Second. Second, Kent. >> Second. Okay, I have a motion and a second. Any further questions? Anybody in the audience?
>> Not hearing none. >> Yep. No chats, no hands raised. >> Great. We'll take the role. Ronnie >> Bulman. I >> Bill. No. Jim >> McGrath I. >> Dave >> Pentai. >> Dan
>> Walsh. Eye. >> And Patton. Eye. Thank you. >> Thank you. And I neglected to in in to introduce our new member Dan Walsh who has joined us for this meeting.
>> And Ron Bowman is now a uh full member I guess is the right way to say that. Congratulations on your appointments. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh next item. Oh, and Andrea Andre
Charbano. uh 186 Clinton Avenue for permission to upgrade the existing sewage disposal system. Melissa, >> yes, thank you. I am going to be promoting Mike Borceli of Felmouth Engineering to present the project.
Hello folks. >> Hi Mike. >> Hi Mike. >> There's always that 30 seconds when you're in the black hole trying to get from in the audience to be impanled, but here I am. Uh my name is Mike Borceli Felmouth Engineering and I represent the
applicant. The property uh before you tonight is 186 Clinton Avenue. It's a residential condominium property containing four condominiums and a total
of six bedrooms. With your permission, I'd like to share my screen, >> please. This is a collaboration between Felmouth Engineering and BSS design. They did the uh land surveying and we did the septic
system design. Um the lot it contains just under an acre, 40,786 ft. It has furniture on Clinton Nav. To the very rear of the property is an
isolated vegetated wetland. uh the uh no disturbance zone A's and out of buffer zone B's from that are shown on the plan. There is also um uh coastal bank and the associated uh
A and B zones are shown on that. You can see that the the furthest reach of those two resource areas is where I'm tracing with my mouse. The balance of the property is in land subject to coastal storm flowage.
In this case, there's a boundary between uh velocity zone V elevation 15 and A E elevation 14 that I'm tracing. There's also a Felmouth
velocity zone which is a line 25 ft offset and parallel to that line. The existing septic system is in a state of failure. It is hydraulically failed, meaning it no longer can leech. So uh
into the ground because the soil has um been um through through the years um become uh impermeable. The water can't flow through the soil pores anymore. Um it's completely uh consolidated in this
corner here. Um at the time that the septic system was designed and installed, the health in title 5 uh rules were different. Um back when it was
installed, there was only a requirement to provide 4T of separation from groundwater. that has now changed to 5 ft separation from groundwater. In addition, the board of health has
changed the requirement for what to use for uh adjusted high potential groundwater in this area from what was common. Uh uh elevation one is now uh required to uh we need to design for
groundwater to be elevation two. So those two requirements uh translate in to uh a situation where the leeching field has to be basically 2 ft further from the water table um than it used to
be. Uh in order to do that um the grading over this area would have to change to provide cover. There's a sidewalk. There's a substantial 40 in 48 inch diameter tree
in very limited uh area in here to provide the necessary fill to cover the system. So as an alternative um the system has been designed so the leeching system is now between the house and Clinton nav instead of in the backyard
because this is a wide open lawn area. there's more room to uh regrade as necessary to provide the cover. The tanks will still be in the backyard. Um but the leeching field will be out here.
Um what does that do? Well, it places the leeching system not in a velocity zone, but in the a portion of it in the film with velocity zone, but it provides the added benefit of
being further away from the wetland back here. And this will provide a greater separation from the groundwater. So, all in all, it's a it's a environmental benefit with no
no known negative impact. All that's all that's here is the um flood zone only and there's some minor regrading of the lawn in this area. So, the tanks will be out here. There's
um a proposed um septic tank to replace the substandard septic tank. Then there's a um a pump chamber that'll um then pump the waste water around the house into a leeching field that's shown
here as this cross-hatch rectangle. I think that sums it up and I'm happy to take questions. >> Great. Thank you, Melissa. >> Um I have no questions. Thanks, Mike. Mhm. >> Uh, thanks Mike. Uh, no questions
really. We're going easy on Mike and Tom this week. We met with both of them back at the office a few weeks ago and discussed this project. Uh, we wouldn't normally approve Septic in a Vzone, but this is really the only place on the
site. It makes sense. Uh, so we we support it and I have no other questions or comments. Thank you. >> Thank you. Even that your brief comment was helpful, Jim. >> Yeah. The only question I would have is could it have been put underneath the
driveway in the back? >> Um if it were I'm going to share my screen again, >> please. If it were um put under the driveway in the back, um it would have meant that we
had to raise the grade by about 12 to 18 in. And there's existing uh garage doors here. It really wouldn't have um allowed for any use of the driveway or
the parking area if we if we raise the grade that much. And it would be it'll also be close to the wet closer to the wetlands. >> Yep. Okay. >> So, you're all set? >> I am set. >> Dave, >> no questions.
>> Dan, >> no questions. >> Ronnie, >> thank you, Mike. That's where it needs to go. There's nowhere else place to put it. So, I'm good. Thanks. >> Well said. And I support that comment as well. Is
um anybody else have any comments or any audience participation? >> Nothing in the chat and no hands raised. >> Great. >> I'll make an issue to order order conditions as discussed. >> Thank you. And a second. >> Second.
>> Great. So, uh we have a motion and a second on 186 Clinton Avenue. Order. Issue an order of conditions. Ronnie >> Vulman I. >> Jim
>> McGrath I >> Dave >> Can I >> Dan >> Walshy >> and Patton I. >> Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you Mike. >> Thank you Mike. >> Thanks Mike.
>> You got to be creative sometimes. >> Yep. Take care. >> All right. Our next item is Mary Jane England 351 Davisville Road Pallet Mass to reconstruct two decks install restorative and mitigation plantings
vista prune according to regulation FWR101810B and for after the fact permission to install two kayak racks. Melissa. >> Yes, I have promoted Angela Tanner from Crawford Land Management to present this
project. Angela, is there anyone else I'm promoting? >> Um there may be um Rob Gagat from um Catelo uh if he's here or he can just stay in the audience if you have questions for him. He um is here to talk about any
questions about the deck. >> Okay. I did try to promote him. It looks like he's joining. Okay, >> Angela. >> Uh, yes. So, um I'm Angela Tanner from Crawford Land Management and we worked
with BSS design to um put together this notice of intent. Um Tom from BSS couldn't be here tonight, but basically we have a single family house. Um, it's on Green Pond and it's undergone a
series of additions over the years. The only thing they're really Actually, I should probably share my screen if that's okay. >> If you would. >> Okay. Let's see. Can you see BSS plan here?
>> Yeah. So this was the plan that BSS did that's showing the resource areas. We have a lot of different resource areas going on. There is the flood zone AE.
There's the flood zone shaded X. There's the flood hazard zone which changes to AE elevation 15. And um there's also this this is the limit right here, the 100 foot setback from the salt marsh.
There are some coastal banks within that area, but they all fall within that salt marsh setback. And the only thing that the homeowners are looking to do is these decks, these wooden decks here are deteriorating.
They're pretty unsafe. So they want to replace the deck in the back which is going to be in the same footprint and then replace the deck in the front with just a very small increase. When this was first brought to the attention of
conservation, it was discovered that there have been some previous mitigation areas which were either not planted or they disappeared over the years. Those you can see in the orange areas over here. There were supposed to be some
shrub plantings there. In addition to that, you can see that there are some green cross-hatched areas which are areas of the naturalized vegetation under tree canopy which do not have an
understory. They that also disappeared over years. And so what we decided to do was have those areas be restored with shrub plantings and then take those mitigation areas, combine them, condense
them into into uh one area over here in the lawn. And then we have some additional mitigation. The mitigation that's additional is for that uh small increase in the deck. And then there are
two areas over here by the salt marsh where there are some kayak and boat racks. The homeowners would like to keep those. And so those areas have also been mitigated at 3:1 within this bigger
mitigation area here. So I can show you the mitigation plan. Can you see the Crawford land management plan now? >> No. >> No. Okay.
How about now? >> Not yet. There we go. >> Okay. So this is the proposed restoration and mitigation plan which shows these areas in the light gray hatch are all of
the understory woodland shrub vegetation and then the mitigation area over here. These darker gray areas are just showing where we would not be planting because they're immediately adjacent to trees. Or there's this one area of existing
shrub vegetation that has started to come back that was originally designated for restoration, but we wouldn't want to disturb it because it's coming back really well. I think there were a few questions that we received from staff that I just
wanted to briefly address. One question was asking about the footings for the deck and um if there are any more specific questions you can ask Rob, but my understanding is that we're replacing only the wood components that the
footings are fine as they are and the um there was a reference to a tree being required because we have over a thousand square feet of mitigation. So that's
fine. We can plan to add a tree. And we're hoping if if there aren't a lot of other issues with this project tonight that we can maybe work with staff to figure out where the tree is going to go and what kind of tree it is. There were aerial photos showing some boats and
chairs being stored in the salt marsh. We've made the homeowners aware of that and they can remove those. And the um there's just a clarification to I I forgot to mention we have proposed this 25 ft view vista corridor
here and that's basically we're not planning on cutting anything right now. We just know that we want to be able to preserve over time some views in that area. So that area we've proposed some of the shorter shrubs that shouldn't get
too tall. But there may come a time when they want to do a little bit of pruning of any other vegetation that may be coming up in there. And we can change our notation so that instead of it saying that it would be pruned to a four to 5ft height, that we would prune it to
a 5ft height and that we would also meet with staff prior to doing any cutting in that area. And uh there was also a comment about some understory vegetation that was in poor condition
and I it's near the kayak racks. So we haven't addressed that. I would assume that that may come up during some of the monitoring reports unless it needs to be addressed sooner than that. But I think that's basically summarizes the project.
And um Rob, do you have anything to add? >> Uh nope. Just to to speak to the deck and the plan with the deck is, you know, the the structural framing of the deck is is in decent shape. Like we're not reconstructing the whole deck. Really, what we're looking to do is replace the
deck boards and update the railings. So, um you know, I just wanted to just clarify that ex except for the little front uh deck where they want to add um the additional space. Obviously, there will be some u some new framing and footings involved in that area, but um
as far as the rest of the deck out back, it's just it's decking, trim, and railings. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. So, I'll go back to Alyssa. >> Thank you. I have no questions at this time.
>> And Failen. >> All right. Thank you guys. Um, so while the deck is on my mind, Rob, you're not uh replacing those supportive beams that are sitting on the footings because some of those are just kind of sitting on
gravel right now. We just wanted to make sure uh we knew whether or not there was going to be some digging in the ground for any new footings. >> Some supporting I I guess I don't know. There's there's on the Is it on kind of on the side of the house like where the like where the hot tub is on the deck?
That area. >> Is that what you're talking about? >> I don't know where the hot tub is, but it's kind of it is when you kind of go around the house when it transitions from the concrete patio underneath to gravel >> on that side. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> we did did d do some digging and I think
there's some there is some footings down there. I think I just think it needs to all be cleaned up and obviously that you know part of the intent is to update the structure if we need to add a hole down some hardware. Um you know I I don't I I found some footings there. I don't
foresee us having to dig all new footings. I I just think we need to rework a little bit of what is there. Um um as of right now, we're not planning on changing any footings. Okay, cool. Sounds good to me. Just wanted to kind of make sure everyone was
on the same page for that one. And for Angela, you addressed basically all of the comments that staff had. Um, and then just to go over again that area that's kind of by the kayak racks that's been chopped throughout the years when
we had a site visit, I think it was before you got brought on, everything was kind of, you know, green and in bloom. So, everything looked fine at that time, but that's just an area that we wanted to keep an eye on. If things don't bounce back the way that we were
hoping, um, we need may need some restoration in there. >> Okay. But everything else looks good. We're happy with the plan. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Fallon. And thank you for uh listening to the
staff and responding. We makes this so much easier. All right. Um we'll start with Dave. >> I have a couple questions about um the you're standing on the back deck, the area to the north there, the large area
with the trees. Um, Angel, I want to make sure that uh, so I guess that you're going to be planting a lot of bushes there under the cover, under those trees. So I guess you presumably chosen ones that can handle that kind of shade, right? >> Yes. Um, so basically the requirement is
that we plant shrubs there. So we we don't have a lot of choice about that piece of it. Um, but all of the shrubs that we've picked are definitely understory shrubs that take um part shade and and importantly dry shade. So
that we um you know, obviously we always recommend and um only warranty the plants if they're irrigated, but it's a temporary irrigation system that we would be looking for. So in those first few years of establishment, they would
need some additional water, but um once established, those are all plants that usually thrive in this sort of >> Okay. And my only other question um in that same area, the vista pruning, the vista aspect, >> the only thing you mentioned was keeping those those bushes kind of low. It seems
from the deck that those trees I mean to to get a bunch of vista there, the trees are blocking view. Is is there any plan to do much prune? I think you said no no no putting on the trees but seems then you wouldn't get any visa seems to me. >> Yeah I guess um what I said was probably mislading. We um we don't plan to do
anything right now. Um it and it would be difficult to describe what we would be doing right now just because there is no there isn't a lot of canopy. But um we would like to discuss in the future potentially doing a little bit of tree
work in that area. That's something that um it's it's been made clear that that's something that we would be meeting with staff first before that would happen. >> So I guess my follow-up question might be for Fallon. Are we going to approve any vista clearing to trees in this if we approve this or would that be
approached readressed later? >> Um since nothing's proposed right now, it's kind of like what Angela said, before any of this pruning ever gets done, we require a site visit with who's going to be doing the work. So whenever work is proposed, we would need to go
out on site with whoever is doing the work and kind of go through all the trees limb for limb to see what could potentially be pruned to open up pockets of view. >> So you're describing down the road if if necessary is what you is what you're talking about, right? Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And we had them keep it on the plan just because it's like what Angela said, they are utilizing that 25 foot corridor and planting lower growing shrubs there. So it just it makes it easier um to have that area already established. >> I see. Okay.
>> For the future cutting. >> That's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dan. >> Um I do have one question and maybe I missed it in the discussion around the kayak racks. The the picture shows kayak racks and then it separately shows boat
racks. So I'm just wondering are both of them intended to stay and is there mitigation for both if they're staying? Yes, that's correct. There's two separate areas, 140 square feet for kayak racks and 214
square ft. They both say kayak racks on the restoration plan. Um, >> and yeah, so combined they are um they make up 100,62 square feet of mitigation because
they're beingated 3 to one. >> Okay. All right. So, the other drawing calls in both kayak racks. I got it. All right. >> I think that was it. >> Okay. Thank you, Ronnie. >> Thank you, Angela. Thank you, Rob. No, it seems pretty straightforward. Good luck moving forward. Thank you.
>> Okay, Jim. >> Uh, no further questions. >> Great. And I always encourage that the Vista Carter be considered when we're doing these projects. And I appreciate you doing that. and even for future to
hold the spot. I think it's a great way to approach this. Are there any other comments? Anybody? There's somebody in the chat. I don't know what that is, but okay, Ronnie. >> I would like to make a motion to issue
an order of conditions as discussed. >> Thank you. >> Can I get a second? >> Second. >> Great. Thank you. All right. I have a motion, a second. Uh, dish order conditions at 351 Davisville Road. All in favor say I.
Ronnie >> I. Bowman. >> Jim McGrath I. >> Dave >> Hi. >> Dan >> Walshai >> and Pattony. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Have a good night.
>> Good night. Thank you. Now we have a continued request for a hearing under notice of intent. TS Grove PT Marina HMLC 366 Manat Road and 470
Acapest Road Famouth Mass for permission to conduct improvement dredging. Alyssa, I see Raul. >> Yes, I have promoted Raul to present his continued project. Hi Raul.
>> Hello. Um, good evening again. Um Rowi Sley um from Capean Islands Engineering were the engineers and land surveyors for this applicant and this continued hearing. Um so this continued hearing was a short continuance from last week and the whole purpose for the continuence was to provide additional
information to staff um regarding some aspects of the site not specific of the project. The project was a dredging project. Um, but staff throughout their research um within town files found certain things that they wanted some
clarification for. We submitted information to the staff. Um, one of the comments had to do with the size of the floats and if I could just share my screen just to kind of um lead along.
Um, yeah. So one of the comments was that the outermost floats um on the existing floating system um were longer. Um so we find information that um the the outer two floats um in fact are
longer. They have been in this um size for ever since the the peers were reconstructed back in 2012. they have been signed off um both by um chapter 91 waterways and by farmouth conservation.
Um what we also found is that several of these finger peers are shorter. So I don't know if there was a trade-off but um that was just a finding and it's not that it's something that's been recently done or done after the compliance was
issued for for the flow system. Um, another comment, um, staff wanted us to elaborate on was the existing vegetation on the bank. Um, this is a project that dates back to around 1999
when improvements were done, when this building was, um, constructed and other improvements were done for the driveway, septic system, and so forth. Um, when this boat ramp was constructed. So, it's very difficult to kind of track down and
pinpoint mitigation wise what was done. Um, what I could only find out from compliances back in 2007 and probably even 2009, um, was plantings that were done in this location. Um, there were
some plantings done in this location, but nothing was proposed in this location. And I think this is the area that staff is concerned that um maybe there is a loss of vegetation in this area. Um but I I don't have any evidence
to say what could have happened at that location. Um I don't know if because this is this one in particular is a winter picture. Um I don't know if something does grow in the area or is just void of vegetation. So I can't really um talk much about what has
happened in this location. I did talk to to the current owner who's only owned the property for a little more than a year. Um they have not done any removal of plantings um in this location. So he doesn't know what could have happened. The third item um that staff wanted us
to um inform them. It was what I represented verbally during the hearing last week. Um, and it had to do with the performance standards standards of land under the ocean. Um, so we break down in I believe four bullets. Um, how the
project meets the performance standards. Um, and I believe staff is comfortable with this response. Um, and if there's any questions, I'll I'll be happy to answer. >> Thank you. Um, Dan, you're not on the quorum for this. I should have mentioned
that earlier. Certainly welcome to listen in. Alyssa. >> Yes, thank you. Um, thanks Rule for sending over all that information just so we could put it into the record. Um, definitely understand that, you know, compliance was issued, so I know I don't think anybody would have a problem um,
permitting that little square footage after the fact, but I think it's kind of just a moot point. Um, and then I I sent you a couple things about the vegetation. Uh, since I hadn't been familiar with this property, I spent almost a whole day going through the whole permitting history. Um there were
there was twice in the peritting history where three permits were open at the same time and all the files are super convoluted but I felt like I I had a good handle on it. Um so I I do know there was some planting that was done in that area over time. Um but I think if
we want to utilize the same principle of the COC and 19 that plan just showed the bank is vegetated. So just kind of restoring it to that point um would make sense. I can't I don't remember which D numbers they were at that time. Um, but there
was one that required kind of a buffer strip to be added, one that had the RDA had that little 27 square feet off in the corner. Um, but it it's hard to evaluate in the middle of winter. I'm not quite sure what condition everything is in. Um, it doesn't look like terribly
much needs to be done. Um, but I don't know if you got a chance to look at those things that I sent over or not, but I feel like I had a pretty good understanding of what went over there. Um, so the staff is advocating that that area be looked at in the spring and
reveated um, if it's fully vegetated right now. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. All right, so Ronnie, >> I got no questions. I think uh we can
push forward and and just take a look at the uh areas that need to be planted in the spring and make maybe make that part of the condition order conditions and go for go forward. Thanks. >> R
do you want to comment? I mean, >> yeah. So, so I'm a little bit on the same boat as Alisa, even though I I kind of do know more of the story on this project because I was involved in it in 2001. Um, but even trying to track those
permits from 2000, 2001, 2005. Um it's difficult to understand which permit superseded which one because it started in 99 when the proposed addition was a certain size then that size changed then that changed
to a completely detached building. So I really don't know which permit ultimately superseded everything before it. Um and like Alisa said, they were simultaneously running and they were all three closed at the same time. But um
what the applicant um can do is yeah, revisit the the area, the coastal bank area with staff in the spring when vegetation is visible. Um and at that point understand really what what's missing or or what could be done to improve the site. Um because at the
moment we we don't really know what is missing, if anything. >> Okay. Thank you. You set, Ron? >> Yeah, all set. Yeah. >> Okay, Jim. >> Yeah, I support the staff's comments. No further questions.
>> Good. Dave, >> no questions. >> Okay. And um yeah, whether or not it's a condition, a previous condition, we hope that they'll consider improving that area.
That's that I I think that's the best we can do at this point. If you two can't figure it out, I don't think it can happen. >> Okay. Um, so are we ready? >> I'll make a motion to issue an order condition as discussed.
>> Close the hearing and take it under advisement. >> All right. >> We're going to close the hearing and take it under adisement. >> We know what you meant. >> Yeah. 10 second. Okay, good.
All right, so uh um we now have Okay, with 366 Manad and and 470 acapest I'm going to call the role. Ronnie Bowman, >> Jim >> McGrath I >> Dave >> can't I
>> and Am I? >> Okay, with this quorum we've approved that. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very >> Okay. Uh do we have a quorum for this? >> I'm sorry. The next item is zero
Davisville Road. Yes. Um, I was just scrambling at the start of the hearing. I figured out that it was indeed opened in August and since we lost Courtney today with the addition of Dan, we do not have a quorum for tonight. Um, I chatted with Tyler Gudra
who is representing the project. Um, and one of the members of the association is on an email chain too. They are content with a uh continuence to March 4th because they'll be traveling in the next week or two. I can understand that. Okay.
>> I'll make a I'll make a motion to continue till March 4th. You said >> correct. >> Okay. >> Second. >> Okay. Great. Um, so I have a motion and a second to continue the zero Davisville
Road until March 2nd. >> Fourth. >> March 4th. >> March 4th. I'm sorry. Even when I hear it a second ago, I can't remember. Um, all right. I will call the role. Ronnie >> moment. >> Jim, >> graphite.
>> Dave, >> I >> and am I? Okay. So, ret. Sorry, I got to take notes. Um, now we get to vote order conditions. And the first one is uh Donna Habour
Kornberg trustee 70 Kerry Lane. Alyssa. >> Yes. Let me just >> or no >> basically. Um let me just remove Raul here >> and Dan you're not on this or the next
doesn't doesn't hurt to hang around. It's up to you. >> All right. Um yes. So this is a project that the commission has seen before but this time under an actual notice of intent application. It is for after the
after the fact approval for the um location of a pool and its associated deck and retaining wall on a property that was originally permitted to be constructed but simply reconstructed in the incorrect configuration and
footprint. Um they also have an unpermitted field stone wall that is right on the zone A border that they are proposing to remove and reveate any disturbance. The associated fill between the unpermitted features will be removed and
that area planted. Um the ADA access ramps that are there are requested to remain and these do not fall in your no structure zone. So the staff is supportive of that. Um you
heard last week from the applicants representatives advocating for keeping the proposed structure where they are. Uh per your regulations, it does fall within your no structure zone. I think that summarizes it.
>> All right. Everybody familiar mentally with this? Anybody that's um Ronnie, do you have any questions or >> No, I have no questions. >> Okay. >> And Jim, >> no. I think we've uh we've d we've done this one quite a few times. So
>> Dave, >> no questions. >> Guess I'm a little unclear here. Uh in last week's meeting, I think the sentiment of the commission was we did not want to approve this unpremitted work. Unpermitted work. I believe that was the sentiment. Uh now, are we about
ready to approve it? Seems I'm a bit confused about that. >> We're going to we're going to vote on it. We're going to vote on it. >> We'll put a a positive motion on the table per council's recommendation over the years. So, someone should make a motion and second to approve the project. And if you disagree, you just vote no.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> And I as well don't have any questions. So >> I'll I'll go ahead and make a motion to issue a positive motion. Is that what I'm doing for >> to issue an order of conditions to
approve the project? >> Correct. >> McGrath second. >> McGrath second. Okay. All right. So, we have before us a
uh an order of conditions for seven carry lane. And I'll call the role. Ron >> Bowman. No. >> Okay. Jim >> McGrath. No. >> Dave. >> Cath. No.
>> Patton. No. Okay. We have not issued an order of conditions. Can I ask a question now? >> Can I have one more question? >> Certainly. >> I wonder if Alisa can tell us is it worth talking about what the next next steps are or should we postpone that
discussion for the future? >> Um, basically we're just going to write up the paperwork and um it's in the applicant's hands. Uh, at this time the previous order is still in effect. Um, so that's what will be required on the property as of right now. And can you
summarize quickly what the previous order said? >> Yep. So, it was to approve um a revised plan that was before the commission that showed the pool deck wall pushed further inland um to not be within that no
structure zone. So, it would be requiring essentially those structures to be relocated. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> All right. Then we're going to move on to William
and Elizabeth Scanel 314 quiset a felmouth mass. >> All right. So this is >> Alyssa. >> Thank you. >> This is a largecale invasive species removal and restoration project. Um
definitely a great deal of thought went into this considering the steepness of the landscape over there. Um, I don't recall too many of the details that we had concerns about, but I do know that we wanted to see monitoring
reports. Um, I believe you were content with how they were going to mitigate for any kind of runoff. They're going to remove switch grass. We will condition Crawford Lane Management to be the sole authority to implement the work. Um, and if they'd
like to change, they just have to come to the staff. So, we make sure that someone who's uh well-versed in this type of work will take over. Um, we said we were not comfortable with hydra seeding, so we'll have that removed from the plan.
And then they did mention that if there was any mowing, it would essentially be um via weed whackers and might be a little tricky out there. Was there anything else we wanted to see? >> That Yeah, that's good.
Okay. Does anybody remember this beautiful property? Jim, >> hard to forget. >> Yeah, I have no I have no questions. >> Okay, Dave. >> And no questions. >> Okay, Ronnie, no questions.
>> And I don't have any questions. So, um, Ron, >> I'll make an issue motion to issue an order of conditions as discussed with the staff, uh, recommendations included. Is that what you want? >> Yeah. If I can just pause for a second.
Fallon, I'm looking at the quorum. Ronnie, were you not here on the 4th? Were you here last week, Ronnie? >> Last week, >> according to my sheet, he was here. >> You were here. Okay. Oh, the reason I
>> he missed the meeting on 121. >> Yes. So, we don't have a quorum to vote. Okay. I'm sorry, guys. >> Oh, darn. >> Throwing us in for a loop. I'll put it on next week. It It'll still be issued
in time. >> Okay. >> Sorry. >> I am too. So, because I messed up the sheet. Uh, okay. >> I'll reprint it. >> Yeah, I guess so. Thank you.
I didn't realize there was actually work to do. I knew I had to make a big spiel, but geez. All right, the next is um let's see. Do we have a quorum for this before I >> We do.
>> Okay. Darn. >> Okay. Uh the next is a vote on order of enforcement for John Butt and Mary Ellen But 41 Mary Manuel Way found with Mass and
we've discussed this a few times. >> We have >> Does anyone want some more information? >> Yeah, I sent over to you guys an enforcement order for your review. If you're content with it, um I can issue it next week once Jen's back in the
office so I can get her signature on there. >> Okay. Does anybody have any questions? Ronnie? >> No, I have no questions. >> No questions. >> Okay, Jim. >> No. >> Okay. >> So, we looking for a motion?
>> Yes, I am. >> I'm sorry for the sigh. Apologize. >> All right. So, I'm going to make a motion to issue an enforcement order. Is that what I'm doing? >> You are. >> That's what I'm doing. >> Okay. >> McGrath. Second.
>> Okay. And McGrath second. Great. All right. So, I have a motion to second issue enforcement order. All in favor say I. Excuse me. 441 Mary Emanuel Way. Ronnie >> Bowman. I >> Jim
>> McGrath. I >> Dave >> Kent. and Pat and I. >> Thank you. I think I made it. >> Thanks, Steve. >> Well done, Vice Chairman. >> You went in strong, Steve. >> Thanks, guys. >> Good job,
>> Dan. It may not give you the best impression of a good chaired meeting, but um we are pretty polite anyway. >> Thank you all. >> This is a short one final motion. >> And who wants to make the final motion? >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn.
And also I all in favor say I. I I >> Okay. Thank you.