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late this meeting is open um first on our order of business is always uh public comment if you wish to comment on something that's not on the agenda now is the time to do that and when you do wish to speak now or later in the meeting please use the microphone over
there that's what connects us to FCTV so that people at home know what you have said and so we all need to use the microphones we've got ours here you've got yours there and please give uh your name and the matter that you're going to speak on so anyone want to make a public
comment yes hey guys my name is Eric i live in West Falmouth and I came here today on Earth Day to talk about the critical role of the town in the global environment and the importance of this specific body and how I think Fmouth is doing well and could be doing a better job in a number
of ways discussions of Americans contributions to climate change and environmental degradation are often owed to individual moral failing failings of consumption which we've come to find out some of which was actually funded by PR firms from oil and gas the carbon in foot footprint for instance was a product of shell but putting that aside
in reality much of Americans environmental impact is a direct product of the way our land is developed so look at several closely similarly developed countries Germany and Japan americans produce about two times the carbon output of a German and about two and a half times the output the average
Japanese person makes despite people in those countries enjoying similar if not better average standards of living this is a direct product of land use the automobile and the method of development that is sprawled across our landscape requiring the use of automobiles for people to live automobiles are often posited as a source of freedom but where
automobiles are the only source of transportation um they're extremely constraining and these issues exist for EVs as well i myself and pretty lowincome resident and for me my car is a major source of stress because I never know the next big bill i want to speak in particular to several decisions that the town is
planning is making that I believe is contributing to car dependency and ultimately environmental impact in a number of ways first I want to look at sections of downtown and East Falmouth especially those that will be served by the new uh sewer project um recently voted upon many areas are still zoned
for single family zoning even though they're within a reasonable walk and very short bike ride along low speed limit roads to shopping employment and food i think the planning board should be looking at how we can enhance allowing redevelopment in these core areas in order to have more affordable housing while discouraging sprawl in peripheral areas these would include
things such as allowing duplex conversions form-based code reducing regulations for redevelopment of lots and permitting auxiliary housing units like a couple that are being view voted on here today i want to express my support for these auxiliary units that are being voting on that are near the downtown within access of town services
and affordable not just in terms of the unit but also affordable long term because they're already served by services and near many of them i also want to speak in opposition to some proposed development along the periphery of the town especially proposed privatization and development of town publicly owned forest land at zero
westmouth highway this lot is far from town for a walker or cyclist it's not served by public transit and could not we be well served by public transit due to the configuration of roadways it would both produce actually unaffordable housing when you calculate all costs of ownership and living there and it also
cuts down sections of public forest that is highlighted as wildlife corridor and is going to require additional infrastructure such as septic or sewer that even in the most dense part of town where it's serving 600 parcels cost $60 million and I imagine that the cost for a parcel in West Felmouth would exceed
$150,000 per parcel comparing relative density of the two areas i also want to speak in praise of this committee in terms of downtown core mixeduse development that has been passed for Davis Straits and sections of Main Street i think these are really awesome ways to enhance affordability and environmentally conscious development
styles that will produce strong resilient community and I really want to just question the general idea that we want sprawling single family development on the peripheries of town i recently heard about efforts by land conservation groups on Cape Cod saying the amount of land available for conservation is dwindling i think that we should take a hard look at the ways we could make
development in the downtown easier u while preserving forested land and uh generally reducing those regulatory hurdles thank you guys for your time i hope Earth Day is a good chance to reflect on your role in a more sustainable healthy and happy community thank you and any questions I'm happy to answer um I hope you understand that
we're not supposed to comment on public comment comments okay okay sounds good but I have a suggestion you should run for the planning board you should and we had an open seat but it's too late next year or whatnot in the future yeah yeah good to meet you guys could you please give me your name again oh yeah eric
Pyvich which is H R Y N I E W I CZ what h R Y N I E W I CZ madam Chair thank you yeah yeah thanks Paul i ask a question are you representing a group is this is your effort personally no it's just my
my effort yeah yeah i I woke up and it was Earth Day and I was like why don't I come down and talk about some stuff I I had been reading at town planning documents and stuff so I applaud you for your effort thank you very much thank you thank you i hope we hear from you again
okay moving on with the agenda um the minutes madam Chair I recommend approval of minutes of March 25th 2025 and April 7th 2025 as approved as uh Ren second any
comments all in favor i approve thank you very much Paul okay um first on our agenda tonight's agenda actually um I think we're probably going to be whipping right through it um all of you probably got copies of the things that
the planning board has done there's not a lot of surprises coming the first thing that we're going to look at the applicant is James Mclofflin a plan of land to create two lots dividing lots A into lot one and lot two in Hatch at
Hatchville Road who is speaking for that madam Chair if if I may I will speak on the behalf so this is um a plan of land for the town of Felmouth yes thanks thank you this is a very strange looking second lot
correct two streets so this uh plan of land proposes to divide a very large parcel into a buildable parcel and an or a buildable lot I should say and an unbuildable parcel so let me just show
you what that means the big lot is just short of 10 acres and the little lot is how much uh the little parcel is just over 10,000 square feet so as you can see the uh lot in question or the property itself is this
outline here uh the effort is to divide up and I'll zoom in here up at the top to essentially carve off this piece of land uh as an unbuildable parcel and leave the remainder of the lot uh in its
uh current condition it meets the requisite frontage for the zoning district and as you know that is the test for an approval not required plan before can you zoom out just a little bit so I can want to see the uses in the abing land why they're carving that off yeah why are they doing this i I I just
I just need to see it i probably can figure it out does that help no in more I want to see what the uses are on the the carving the pond that's what I wanted to see so they're they're basically taking this pond and the butters to those other lots so they're
no longer a butters from them right so this this property will become part of the um it'll be donated to the town this is in support of the uh recent town meeting article article 39 where the owners of the property are donating it to the town for work that the
conservation commission is currently doing in the Kunamesa so the owners of the new lot won't even have them as a buyers i was just trying to figure what they're doing i think Oh okay maybe you've answered my question you looked up that was That's a good idea i just want to I could You clicked by it so fast I couldn't see it sorry
i have bad eyes just a point of clarification the parcel A is not shown on this drawing i presume parcel A includes a uh one and two is that correct no parcel A is actually u unfortunately mislabeled on this plan uh
so lot two is not actually a correct way to label uh this piece of property because it is unbuildable which by definition uh makes it a parcel so the plan itself the corrected plan that we have on file currently says parcel A uh
so it's currently shown uh correctly but parcel A as described in the write up includes both those parcels even though it's not shown in the drawing correct i think it just means the It is it is just this piece here parcel A is
just this piece the little shaved part is that little piece so this both A two and one is A no it happens to be written there because there's space for it but it doesn't include it that one is
this whole thing right parcel A is that little piece that they're carving off okay the right of it was confusing oh that may confuse but you can picture it now i'm in favor of this i just there's a clarification there it's a good idea to do this but when it's not
shown on the drawing and it seems to be different on the write up I was a little confused thank you sure let's see if we can get a motion and then a discussion is there anyone from the public who wants to speak on this could we have a motion i move that the planning board accept
endorse thank you i knew that wasn't the right word i was wondering why we're talking so much about this who just endorsed the approval not required not required by James Mclofflin plan of land to create two lots dividing lot A into lot one and lot two at zero Hatchville
Road and a second second any discussion all in favor i and that passes thank you and for clarity sake that motion also included the verbiage with without regard to zoning compliance or buildability is that correct i want to explain i really asked that question for
my own personal interest to understand what's going on i probably shouldn't have asked that but whatever that's why I did it i'm glad you did because I was curious i've never seen anything such a tiny little shoody okay moving on now we're going into uh public meetings we've got one two three four I believe
approval not required and the first of them is um Edward Lewis site plan review application to construct a detached accessory dwelling unit at 31 Yale Drive um Paul we have a notice yes notice public meeting was published
on April 4th 2025 and 40s were sent a notice by regular mail do we have the abutters here no not for this one okay um there appears that we have been given a draft motion because the uh the
applicant has met all of the uh bylaw requirements for an ADU is there anyone who would like to discuss this application i have a quick question just I think you announced this as another approval none requires
isn't it no it is public meeting no it's it's by right hearing so I I was I know what to say at different times i just being I'm all set well go ahead it's It's not approval not required it's a It's an A and it's
a accessory apartment which is by right which means they really It's like approval not required but it's not the same but it's not anymore since the state of law okay language confused i didn't mean to okay i knew what you were saying this is I'm learning so am I i'm like an
announcement for the public okay because the decision that we most likely are going to be reading is somewhat abbreviated and I really want to assure the public that our staff and the board
studies all of this we get referrals from all the different committees and boards around uh and based upon that we give our recommendations so I wanted to assure the public of that and the people who are here and the fact that if they want to see everything they can come in
to the planning office or they can look at it on the planning website thank you Paul yeah I just had a question on the site plan the site plan prepared by Collins Civil Engineering shows Yale Drive and shows the property does not show the location of the detach
accessory dwelling here that's reading and I thought there was an itty bitty vocus on it no the drawing itself not the locus um I think that's because it's above the existing garage yeah and there's the existing garage that says existing
garage an existing three-bedroom house that does not show the detach accessory dwelling unit it's the garage the live plan right here it's in the garage it's in the garage okay that's right on the screen right there right
it's on the plan okay i can answer any questions if you need i can help thank you madam chair would you like the applicant to summarize the Would you like to summarize your proposal um is there anyone on the board who who
has further questions about it everyone should learn how to do this throwing people off is the detached where it's it's already a detached garage but the ADU is going into that detached garage but I think it's important for the public to realize that you can come up here speak for yourself and get it done please go ahead uh yes
my name is uh Russell Crockford i work with GMP Architects and I'm here representing the owner of the property uh just for clarification uh there's an existing three-bedroom ranch house in the front of the property
and there's an existing somewhat dilapitated garage structure so the garage structure was redesigned to create the proposed ADU um essentially it was all rebuilt in
the footprint we didn't change the footprint other than the original garage structure had a lean to that went almost all the way to the property line that leanto structure was removed and what's remaining is the 540 square footprint
that we used for the ADU um design but essentially the structure has been all replaced couple walls were remained and everything is brand new and then for the bedrooms what we did is we
eliminated a bedroom in the existing three-bedroom ranch we opened up a doorway we run that by Gary Street and the uh health inspectors approved that uh so we maintain you know three bedrooms and we're not adding any um
additional bedrooms to the property or the septic system um guess we can scroll down if you So that's the proposed structure again it was built or designed to in the exact footprint of
the existing structure that was there this plan's hard to see but this is just a quick little outline or plan of what the existing ranch house with was with some information on opening up a doorway to eliminate one of the bedrooms and the
existing house has um living space in the basement that got the square footage number up so the ADU met the requirements of the 50% rule and that's all been approved uh with the with the town right i can read that it has been
all been approved i'd like to ask you a question though just for my own information not questioning your project how long did it take you to go through the permitting process once you had your plan ready and you came down to get uh to find it approved how long has it taken you to reach this stage um I think
it's to get here been what six weeks since we filed maybe two months six two months to six weeks um so yeah I guess a little bit unknown
as to what the process was going to be you know we thought the buy right was just something that would be done administratively in the department didn't realize that we had to come for a hearing so that was just something that
kind of caught us off guard and then you know collecting all the information and establishing um documentation on the existing house which we didn't really have prior to having to submit it for this hearing so
there was some additional work that we had to do and then you know compile all that do the application and then get on the docket so but moving forward with the next one we'll know ahead of time that we need little
more documentation than what we had and we'd be prepared so because the town is interesting we are interested in streamlining and many processes as we can and now that this is a byite process um it's something that we can consider because I didn't think that it would
take uh two months to get here once you had your plans but now I've learned that it does so it's you know that will be a topic of conversation thank you okay you're welcome any additional questions uh any questions concerns paul yeah i noticed
the review from the health department refers to the leechfield is that going to be part of the conditions believe the septic's brand new and already installed i can read it if you'd like you've got a copy of the condition
believe it's a brand new three-bedroom septic that's been installed anyways right so Madam Chair if I may yes so with this um application the health department initially sent us an um a referral ahead
of uh consulting with the applicant and then we reviewed or received an updated referral which is included in your staff report packet an email from the health department indicating that all is good so there's there's no concern from the health department it's just a older
referral that had to be updated that's all so it won't be a condition because it's all acceptable so could we hear the motion Bob okay uh draft April 22nd 2025 motion that the planning board votes to approve the application of Equity Land
Investments for the construction of a detached one-bedroom accessory dwelling unit located at 31 Yale Drive under section 242 i don't think they can hear you site plan review of the zoning bylaw adu building elevations and floor plans uh show the following findings and
conditions uh general per proposal uh the applicant is proposing to construct a detached one-bedroom accessory dwelling unit the principal dwelling is currently three bedrooms however the applicant is removing a bedroom in the principal dwelling and transferring it to the ADU which means the total bedroom
count for the property with the ADU will remain at three bedrooms the 540 ft accessory dwelling unit will be 36% of the principal dwelling which complies with section 2491C5 of the zoning bylaw parking the site plan shows room for parking for
both principal dwelling and the accessory dwelling unit therefore complying with section 2491C and section 240141.1E of the zoning bylaw respectively uh a butter and public comments there were no letters or of
opposition received nor comments made during the board's public meeting uh board general finding compliance with ADU and site plan review bylaws the board finds that the information provided by the applicant conforms to all the requirements of sections 2409.1 and 240 12.2 of the
zoning bylaw conditions standard condition modifications of the plan shall be constructed as approved any changes shall be reviewed by the planning board to determine if a modification of this decision is necessary two standard condition storm water the project must not direct any storm water runoff to public property
above or public right away utilities any connections or alterations public utilities would require permission from the appropriate town department uh the applicant shall see the engineering division to address assignment for the new building prior to
applying for a building permit upon completion of the construction the applicant shall post the address for this building for section 99.1 of the zoning of the town code uh the project shall meet all applicant applicable standards set forth in the building code as determined by the building
commissioner adu rentals period shall not be less than six months and weekly monthly rentals so-called summer rentals are expressly prohibited number seven laps pursuant to section uh condition lapse pursuant to
section 240 12.2 of the zoning bylaw this site plan review decision shall lapse three years from the date is granted the substantial use thereof has not sooner commenced except for good cause the determination of good cause shall be made by the planning board the
applicant shall contact the excesses office for an inspection of the ADU prior to certificate of occupancy do we have a second we have a second second there's two seconds now is there any uh further discussion
all in favor i This is approved i'd like to say that the uh standard conditions that um uh Bob Larry just read are standard conditions so that reading them for each one of the applicants tonight um we don't really need to do that because I'm sure that you're all going
to be getting printed copies if you haven't already of this entire thing so you'll have in hand what you need for your documentation of your project and the public can understand that each of the proposals that we're going to be looking at is meeting the standard conditions just so we don't have to keep
um doing that over and over so we're ready to move on the next one the applicant is Mark Ross okay is he here tonight yeah um site plan review application to construct an attached accessory dwelling unit in the basement
at 268 Pinerest Beach Drive that's on Jenkins Pond is it it is yeah well yeah well we have the notice yes madam chair this uh the notice of this plan meeting was published on 44
425 and 33 abutans were notified by regular men thank you Jim j does this meet all the guidelines it does yes it does meet all the guidelines but let's hear what the project is would you like to come
is this attached or detached it is a It's attached it's attached i'm sorry and you can just scroll thank you [Music] hi my name is Mark Ross um this is a
rental unit that I own that we're putting another ADU in the basement um we stayed within the structure uh of the current building so we didn't build anything bigger on the property we're just making a space uh more effective in the in the basement for a a one-bedroom
apartment uh we took one bedroom from the upstairs and we reapplied it to the basement so we're taking one bedroom out from upstairs and making it for the three bedroom still downstairs i have Can you hear me what about the What
about the owner occupied portion of this owner occupied yeah how do you mean is there any requirement that be owner occupied under the new state rule there's no requirement for owner occupied there's no requirement okay so that's gone right okay yep and I
have one other question these are really nice pictures that you took and that you supplied us with but it looks as if it's already there what's already there that the the change that you're proposing Oh no it was for whatever reason the house had an existing uh garage but in that
garage it had two sliding doors i don't know what it was used for um so but it's still an empty today still an empty space um that hasn't been converted yet oh okay fancy windows very fancy windows
any further questions i do follow yeah I have a question to town planner the uh review of the engineing departmenting division and department of public works refers to note that the site plan is not endorsed and is 9 years
old why is that significant i believe you may be referring to this application let me just look there's an updated site plan did you have that gross right i'm looking I'm looking for now yeah so
the site plan it's actually the first page that was the existing one though right right but for a site plan with an accessory dwelling in the basement there would be no change to the exterior which the applicant has indicated and there is an endorsement um or there's a
engineering stamp um located on the on the plan as shown up on the screen i I cannot speak to I'm just curious why that I've never seen that before yeah I I I can't speak to why that was included but as you can see it's it's complete
that's only a recommendation and and again because the the work is included in the basement and there's no site work being performed the jurisdiction is really limited to that just making sure that there's enough off- streetet parking which I thought
you testing me to see if I read this stuff before I come here and you did excellent work are we requiring a site plan you know a plot plan with these now well I'm surprised that we're requiring so much but I think we're all learning
what What are we requiring under the new state law the state we had our own ADU law for several year how many years eight years yeah but for discussion I think our own ad law allowed to bring up the town plot plan in a sketch handdrawn of what they were doing without hiring
an architect and engineer that's the way we started this on the other hand it is now whatever we started with it has now changed and now we're getting applications under the new state law that are by right that allow a larger uh ADU than we were allowing that
took away the requirement that it be owner occupied for some part of the year what other changes did it make Jeb those are the main ones yeah I mean it reduced it uh got rid of the owner occupancy it increased the square footage and the allowed percentage um it
it also provided the fact that it is a by-right process which we had before as a special permit if it were a detached situation it allows for multiple ADUs on a property via special permit i could probably go on and on but that's the last one I remember okay but those are
the main ones yes yes really you state the last one please so for clarity purposes the reason we require site plans typically is for a detached accessory apartment because it's a brand new structure typically so that brand new structure has to be
placed on the lot as setbacks have to be shown to make sure that they're abiding by the requirements of article 11 etc etc but in a situation where it's within the existing dwelling the only reason we require the site plan is to ensure that there's off- streetet parking which the
bylaw requires that there be one spot for the new ADU so given that that's why we're requiring it does seem to be a candidate for administrative approval going forward i think so i think we could we can simplify the process but I I think that we should correct talk
about it another time okay what I wanted you to restate really really quickly is you said that there's more possibility with a special permit more than one ADU on a piece of land correct that something needs to sink in to everybody here it's new but uh something sounds
like tiny houses well it has ADUs defined closest i think I think perhaps I mean something that something that we uh when we first uh initiated this bylaw was uh people
wanted protection for their property so that's why we did uh site plan landscaping the design of the building the location of any detached or addition to that as well as parking so uh I don't
know do we give that up now no because I think the state also says the new ADU state law says that towns may add their own requirements if they wish to and I do know that the one I would be interested in requiring continuing to
require is that the style of the ADU match the style of the ma the main building so that it looks cohesive on the street that it's not a new uh aesthetic element in that neighborhood madam Chairman I I agree but I think uh
to town planner do we have to do a town meeting uh approval to make that change to a state law i mean we already have it in our law the state law well they they're saying you don't need it we want to Well qualification the state law says that you can have
site plan approval if you want to right but the I'm I'm talking about the architectural design so I would recommend two things one that we move on from this conversation and just focus on the application at hand and two we put the ADU um item back on
the agenda for future discussion after the attorney general comes back with their ruling on our proposed amendments and that won't be till late May give or take in that case I think we had reached the part where we're going to hear a motion yeah okay draft April
22nd 2025 motion that the planning board votes to approve the application of Mark Ross for the construction of an attached one-bedroom accessory dwelling unit located at 268 Pinerest Beach Drive under section 24012.2 site plan review
of this zoning bylaw all the uh site plan ADU building elevation floor plans have been submitted uh the proposal is a general proposal the applicant is proposing to construct an attached one-bedroom accessory dwelling unit in the basement
of the existing single family dwelling the principal dwelling is currently three bedrooms however the applicant is reconfiguring the floor plan to remove a bedroom which means the total bedroom count for the proposed for the property with the ADU will remain at three bedrooms the 68 square foot accessory
dwelling unit will be 27.4% 4% of the principal dwelling which complies with section 240 uh- 9.1C5 of the zoning bylaw all the uh other findings are
standard for this type of motion and public comments there were no letters of opposition received or comments made during the board's public meeting uh the conditions uh number one modifications of the plan
shall be constructed as approved any changes standard aren't they yeah i just like to read this one though oh any changes shall be reviewed by the planning board to determine if a modification of this of this decision is necessary and all the rest of the standard
uh conditions great uh is there a second second any discussion all in favor i I It's approved thank you very much thank you good plan okay next um Kevin P duffy and Mary Beth
Duffy you're here um trustees at 464 Davisville Road Realy Trust site plan review application to construct a detached accessory dwelling unit at 464 Davisville Road um there's a
notice madam chair the uh public greeting meeting notice for 464 Davisville Realy Road Realy Trust was published on April 4th 2025 and 27 of Butters was sent a notice by regular mail
okay um Kevin is there anything you'd like to say about this i mean I don't need to step in it and I don't need to step in it and you know to detract from you hoping hopefully passing this very quickly so um you know I had a presentation prepared like we normally
do um I would just say this is a slightly unusual situation because it's one it's detached and two um it is the repurposing of an existing workshop or a portion of that workshop into an ADU um so while the ADU matters are now in many
cases by right we are also applying to the zoning board because of existing special permits that condition the use of this workshop so um we'll we're before this board now uh we hopefully have approval on the site plan review which is again to convert a portion of
this existing workshop space bar and workshop um into an ADU and we'll also be going to the zoning board i believe it's May 15th uh for a modification of the existing special permits there are three existing special permits on this property um this seems to be um uh some
changes to the exterior of the main building uh there are some th those were approved administratively by the zoning board uh some months ago they are making some changes to the exterior mostly architectural they're they're building some some dormers um in in nature but
nothing significant and no addition to bedrooms there um and then we have this additional existing accessory structure what happened here was the property lines were adjusted over the last 20 years and this was an existing home um but when they changed the property
boundaries they removed the kitchen from this so we still have three bedrooms in this accessory structure it is not an ADU because it's it it has it lacks cooking facilities yeah um but what is proposed here within this structure is an ADU
okay so the only approval you're looking for is for the ADU yes that is all we're here before this board for this evening thank you thank you any questions from the board on this pat I have a comment because our
um approval that we're planning on says that the plans which we have here dated February 13th were revised the latest revision as of March 19th and this does
not show the latest revision date on it and I brought that to Jed's attention i think the package I don't know what the revision was between the two so uh I can what we did submit the revised plans to the planning board some weeks ago um
basically we added we corrected the zoning um because it had listed it as AGA corrected it to residential and we added a notation of the domestic well which services the workshop and the accessory structure because we had a referral from the water department stating that um they would need an
independent line but we noted that that was on domestic uh on a domestic well and there was a revised water department referral um which said which was issued After we resubmitted the plans or submitted the
revised plans we just said if well water is utilized for this dwelling there cannot be any cross connection between existing town portable water and the wellwater systems so the existing well can be used for this structure yes oh because I had the opposite feeling after
reading it no my impression was basically you can't ex you can't connect a pro a building that's on town water to wellwater as well but only the front house is is serviced by only the main dwelling is serviced by town water the accessory structure and the ADU or the
the workshop are both serviced by the well and will continue to be serviced by the well thank you that clarifies it because I had the exact opposite interpretation of what was going to be allowed other questions
i guess not okay could we have a motion draft April 22nd 2025 motion that the planning board votes to approve the application of Kevin P duffy and Mary Beth Duffy trustees of 464 Davisville Road Realy Trust for the construction of
a detached one-bedroom accessory dwelling unit located at 464 Davisville Road under section 240-12.2 site plan review of the zoning bylaw uh all the findings are
listed i'm not going to read them uh all the conditions are the standard conditions so I guess we're just going to vote on it i guess we're just going to vote on it is there a second second all in favor i I
All right so you approve thank you very much it looks like a good interesting building it it's it really is an interesting site and getting into some of the history going through the special permits um it's it's pretty fascinating what they've done with it over the past really 20 some odd years uh but Mr duffy
and his wife just purchased this about a year and a half ago and are really working on making it their own as opposed to this was the old ricketella ricadelli property um some years ago and then um it's been it's changed hands a few times since then but nice you've got
a lot to work with there thank you next the applicant is Walter HB Platt uh site plan review application to construct a detached accessory dwelling unit at 26 Drift Road this will be in
West Valmouth [Applause] madam Chairman Walter Platt mr platt good evening good mad madam chair sorry to interrupt there's a notice yeah notice of this uh this particular project was again issued on April 4th
2025 and 10 of Butters were notified by regular mail okay go ahead okay uh so the um existing dwelling built about 1915 is here um on the westerly side of Drift Road there is
an existing garage uh right here on the easterly side of Drift Road we're planning to take down the existing garage and then build um a new garage with an ADU above it there's the front
elevation hopefully that's considered to be in keeping with the original house it'll be two uh two bedrooms and about 860 square feet happy to answer any questions and this is going on the same footprint as the
existing garage it is not it's a different footprint than the existing garage and those are the same materials as the existing house and collars and Yeah other concerns questions yeah something that needs to be pointed out
because this is split and how was it determined what's the front yard oh yeah okay and so we have a letter here that was requested and it was um Gary Schlutter the the
um excuse me Gary Street building commissioner yes thank you i'm stumbling all over on this and he says that attached is a sketch identifying the area we believe to be the front yard
for part two of the bylaw front yard definition which is the area between the front the lot frontage adjacent to the street lines drawn from the two front corners of the building parallel to the lot frontage until they intersect with the
side lot line and this would result in the existing garage and proposed accessory structure being outside what have been deter by this determined to be the primary front yard and therefore allowable under the zoning bylaw this is
a strange and unusual situation so well it is because the the secondary structure the new structure is across the street from the existing structure so it I'm assuming what you just said means that the front yard is on the
primary structure side of the road correct right it is and um the town of Falmouth defines that a lot may have two front yards and then it's up to the building inspector to determine which is the primary front yard which then uh
mandates those setbacks and that the secondary front yard is then allowed either side setbacks or rear setbacks okay and you're you're square with the building commissioner we are we are okay good any other questions concerns i have
a motion draft April 22nd 2025 motion that the planning board votes to approve the application of Wala HB Plat for the construction of a detached two-bedroom accessory dwelling unit located at 26 Drift Road under section 240-12.2 site plan review of the zoning
bylaw i'm going to read uh one uh findings the applicant is proposing to raise an existing detached garage and construct a detached two-bedroom accessory dwelling unit over a new garage in its place the accessory dwelling unit proposed at 856 ft will be
49.5% of the principal dwelling all the other findings and conditions are standard is there a second oh second all in favor i thank you all right thanks very much
so withdraw there all good projects okay we have um some discussion items on our uh on our agenda for tonight and the first of them is a new discussion item for us and I guess we have Melinda to
thank you do for the research yes um but before we get to that could we ask please that you move the conversation out of the room so we can continue with the meeting um hello if you could if you're going to talk Hello if you're going to Yeah
either quiet or move out one or the other thank you um we're going to discuss outdoor lighting regulations which we have not really discussed before but before we do that I think that we ought to uh we tried to thank Michaela Schumaca who was
leaving the planning department has left the planning department for her years of service here and Jed you are going to give us a rundown of her projects right so I was going to do that under the next agenda item but it sounds like you're getting going out of order is that what
I'm hearing yeah because I didn't see Michaela's name so I just thought I'd insert it sure so yes as you know or as some of you know Michaela Shoemaker um who worked for the town approximately just over four years as our community development uh planner uh has decided uh
to leave the town she's pursuing another opportunity with another town she's now the town planner in Rochester um so um you know obviously we'll miss all the great work that she did um in her position and she worked on things like formbbased code uh for the Davis Straits
area um she helped tremendously on the recottification effort and all of the zoning bylaw changes that we made after recottifying uh the zoning bylaw she and I worked together on the open space and recreation plan update which we recently
got state approval for um and one of the first tasks that she was working on when I first joined the town was administering a uh CDBG uh grant it was a block grant that we received from uh the state to help local businesses um
survive COVID essentially uh provide um financial assistance to uh allow them to continue to operate uh during that period of time that we can barely remember now it's so far away um so she did a lot of great work here and so
she'll be missed um and so the next steps are to advertise for her position and and potentially so do some um readjusting in the in the planning department so that's those are some things I'm working on so you are to back fill on that position yes right yes on
that part-time position yep great okay yeah michaela was really just really really nice to work with she was easy to get along with yes yeah i think uh we didn't see her at many meetings but if you went into the office and asked for help she was very very helpful and had
her fingers whatever we needed was great a great support staff we'll miss her yeah and of course she helped with all of the planning board applications uh that that you received during her tenure so she did a lot of different um activities which that uh position sort
of a jack of all trades right um being able to help in whatever facet we needed so well she apparently got good training she's now a town planner yeah she's she's moved up yep she's great so we wish her well yes we do wish her well and we thank her very much i hope she's
watching right now maybe not maybe she'll watch the recording oh that'll be good you could send it to her so outdoor lighting regulations this work was uh done for us by Melinda who's not here tonight um but she got to get did the research got things together and yellow
highlighted what she gave us so we would particularly notice that among the 62 towns in Massachusetts Massachusetts I think has 351 towns and of those 62 towns already have outdoor lighting ordinances and when you look at the the
towns I thought we would probably be looking at mostly you know west of Boston kind of towns they're all over they really are it's a good scatter there are suburban urban uh countryside towns here but uh many of them are towns that I recognize and towns that tried to
take good care of themselves of the 62 five Cape and Island towns and the ones in the Cape and Island melinda has given us copies of their the ones that did full bylaws we now have copies of those so have you had a chance to review them and what's
your reaction to the two things one do you think we should pursue this here in Felmouth and two what did you find in these examples that would be useful to us so anyone want to start
i'm going to have a chance okay that's fair okay not good but fair question i generally been just following the dark sky compliance that I see all the time is this basically what we're talking about the same thing or what differentiates from dark sky what's the
difference here yeah I mean it varies so some of the regulations that you see in the packet are very detailed uh they talk about lumens and Kelvin and um height of light posts and shading materials that would make it dark sky
compliant so uh in general dark sky compliance is that it doesn't shade up or out it's mostly down downward lighting if you will um so there's a mix of different um options here i will say that you know
for the most part at least on the Cape it appears that a lot of them are considered to be zoning bylaws or at least they're found in their zoning bylaw however as you know zoning bylaw is um it regulates land use lighting is not a land use but they're mostly in
their general bylaws i I just went through it and counted it by by a score of four to three zoning bylaw one so So it is a mix i would recommend if if there was an interest in doing a lighting bylaw in town that it would be
a general bylaw that applies throughout town and not zoning because again zoning gets into regulating land use and lighting is not a land use so it's it's something that you could incorporate into your site plan review requirement that they provide a lighting plan that
you have certain requirements for what that lighting plan includes and some of your expectations for say an overlay district or a certain part of town you could go with that or my recommendation would be a general bylaw that applies to
the entire town but you got to be very careful right so it's there are different um restrictions and requirements for residential use and commercial use and industrial use so you'd really want to dive into the details of some of how other communities
have done it and we would want to um do a little bit more research on which ones are actually good bylaws to uh not copy directly but to use as a template because there's a lot of bylaws out there that you know they just aren't
written all that well and they're confusing so we want to spend some time on that to make sure that whatever we produce if anything at all it's nice and clear and understandable is there any good reason to limit our comparison to just those on the Cape i'd
like to reach out I think a little more there's no good reason it's just past practice you know we typically start with the Cape and then we look at other communities that are similar to Felman so I always look at Plymouth as as an example because it in my mind it's a similar community to Felman
and my first thought was all of this i mean you got general requirements you got specific applications you've got uh you know prohibitions exemptions administrative waiverss enforcement violations and penalties i mean it's
just it's way too much i mean I I I think it would be simple enough to say that these are the types of lights that we want and be done with it i I mean I thought we're trying to simplify things so I'm taking that as a yes you think we ought to do something but not like that
i I don't I don't even really think we need to do anything but because I mean we recommend that people uh keep light on their property and down lighting and all that kind of stuff and yeah I'm all for continuing to do that but to make it so that something is
enforcable yeah difficult we can't enforce the things we have now john I agree i mean when you read these they are page after page of technicalities and always my concern is if we
adopted anything similar to this who's going to enforce it Jim is there any way we can get a measurement like one number that says how far these lights will be seen from the site and we limit it because all I really care about is I don't want to be
lightening up the sky i like down lighting dark lighting i want to be to see the stars and I don't want I don't care whether it's commercial or residential i just want to cut down on the amount of light in the sky can we have a number that says how that works well that would be Yes
you think we ought to do i think we should do it but really similar to just getting down to instead of 30 pages one number way to look at it whether it's making more money this is a yes yes yes but simple simple simple simple right yes and more simplified yes
come in this way paul I haven't reviewed it yet oh so he's fessing up too he is i just picked I just picked up the booklet this afternoon right so did I tom I'm along with Jim i think we should
have something but very simple um maybe just the shape of the uh the housing around it you know light is linear we can't have it pointing that way but uh maybe start off small with the general bylaw if we do but something real basic like like they said it's too hard to
enforce a lot of details in this tremendous jen could I ask you a question i don't think the planning board actually has the authority to initiate a general bylaw do we do you do not no so the only kind of bylaw we can initiate um is a zoning bylaw correct or
a recommendation to the or we can try to palm it off on somebody else but we don't know that they would accept that responsibility so if we actually want to see dark sky we're kind of stuck with zoning and in fact there are others in here who must
have had the same problem they went with zoning my recommendation is if you are concerned about lighting I would say you'd probably want to start with your mixed residential and commercial overlay district simply because you've got mixed use and when you have a mixeduse
situation obviously you're mixing commercial properties that are open later than residential and you may have different lighting standards so you want to meld those two things together wherever possible and be respectful of both of those uses start there um but in your single residential zoning district
I don't unless you're hearing that there are issues with outdoor lighting in those districts I would steer clear of that well I can tell you right now some issues about those kinds of things in a general residential zone where I live and that's actually what So excuse me
you don't live specifically general residential asp all right because I don't live in a general resist right different but I did have a lighting problem and so when I realized that I had a lighting problem that light
was shining only in the winter when the trees are the leaves are down directly into my bedroom all night long I was so annoyed so I went looking through the zoning bylaws to see where you know they couldn't do that to me and there's nothing there and I was disappointed and
came to see Jed and thought maybe we should start looking into it and then I spoke directly to the people who controlled that source of lighting and they really did try to make a correction on it as long as it didn't cost them any money and I it can happen it can happen
anywhere where uh a property owner becomes concerned about security for his or her property and they decide you know 24-hour lighting is the solution jim there there is a way to do 24-hour lighting and it also complies you put
the lights on the side of the property down and you focus just on the house so it's not going to a neighborhood but it's more expensive and in fact in historic districts that's what we do we don't allow flood lights they require lights from the side coming on the property so you can only see it on the
side so I'm I agree with you there's a way to solve the problem no flood lights going out make the lights come in well I think maybe we should codify the way to solve the problem historic already has that right isn't that historic does yes historic does I think we because people
don't want to init necessarily initiate but if we initiate putting something together doesn't matter whether it's in the form of a bylaw or a general suggestion or something like that and you know where we present it to and work with them on it to make something happen
over time i didn't follow that process of course you didn't because it was too convoluted i'm saying we'd have to take the responsibility for putting the ideas together like this number six here on Barnstable you could start out with the why we want to do something like this
protecting the New England village character do something like that and then suggest that whenever a home is built that it be the you could say policy of the town it's not a regulation that you
want to enforce but it's a town policy if you will that down lighting be put in that the lighting be kept on the property however we evolve that we'd like to see it and then we have something that we can
present to the select board that they can consider to vote in as a policy if they choose or just ignore it but then we've done what we can do to help the whole
dark sky concept here or dark earth sky i mean my house is what a couple of miles down the road and I see the glow here in town every night you're likely I I mean I would imagine you're likely seeing the glow from
specific larger land uses rather than single residential but I can't say that for certain mhm so that's where I would suggest you'd want to start except there are specific larger uses allowed all over town for different things municipal buildings correct religious buildings
educational buildings that's a big one it is you know so they're there and I don't think we one I'd like to see the zoning the planning board uh take responsibility for this for not doing something complicated but making it
clear that it will be uh uh heading toward dark skies as much as we can and I think if we could all take a look just just Google dark sky and read about it because I was stunned when I started reading these and oh boy this is a
morass um we don't need that there are much simpler ways to say we're concerned about it and make it part of your plans when you come here so that's that's a terrific point and and I don't want to jump ahead to the um planning board report but I will um so
part of what we propose to do and what we're working on is a total rewrite of your site plan review um bylaw we can include into that things like what Jim was describing a simple way of addressing whether or not lighting is staying on the property or shining in
places where it shouldn't be is a lighting plan and design professionals can put together a lighting plan pretty easily and we've done it before so any application that comes before you through site plan review it's a requirement to have a lighting plan and you can work with the applicant to
ensure that the fixtures and all of the hardware are dark sky compliant and that all of the lighting stays with on uh stays on the property and is put in places that make sense so for example walkways where um pedestrians and people
who visit the site would go at night you'd want you know right pedestrian scale lighting that's not obtrusive to the neighborhood i have a suspicion that meant that the dates that each of these towns adopted something would vary pretty widely i doubt that few of them
go back two decades so it' be somewhere in there but at the time they were they were creating them they were kind of pioneering it and the ones who would take um Nantucket for example how many pages was that you know so they're trying to cover every event just you
don't need to do that anymore so that's that's an approach that we could take maybe for our our next meeting if everybody would just take a few minutes to look at dark sky on the internet yeah ju just quickly the technological advantage in light advances in lighting
with low voltage focus is so much different in the last two years that anything was done four or five years ago should be totally not even evaluated i mean you don't it just a lot of the lighting doesn't even need a permit be anymore there's just ways to do it so much cheaper and we should allow
innovation and it's really low lighting we just changed our grow lights for you know starting little plants because they're so much better and they're not glaring at you i just meant anything that's five or six years old is probably technologically obsolete that's what I was trying to make i should have just
said that sorry okay so we have an approach anyone have a problem with that approach no okay take a look at it good okay planning department changes so um we touched briefly on Michaela's
departure uh the other item that you should all be aware of um because I know that some of you were at town meeting others may not have um have stayed for the entire evening but um town meeting did approve a position change for the planning or for really for the community
development position we'll we'll call it the community development director position um and so I will be um taking on that role as of July 1st so I'll be overseeing um the building department the health department
conservation and ZBA and planning um and and the ZBA yes and the ZBA right so there'll be a community development um well it's a community development department and each one of those individual departments I suppose will
become sort of like a division similar to the the way DPW is run um so come July 1st it'll be a a new way of thinking I guess and the idea is to uh create more clarity for property owners i mean I'll say this right now these
departments they they operate um as efficiently as possible and we all work together on a very regular basis um but you see an example of um an ADU tonight that 26 Drift Road where it's it was a complicated case that we had to figure
out and make sure that it fit within the zoning bylaw and understand exactly how it was going to make its way through the permitting process and sometimes that can be a challenge for applicants so the idea would be a sort of a universal voice um and you know streamlined
permitting so that we can get applications through the process quicker than we already do which is really quick i mean the delay that um right the two months the applicants well I mean honestly a lot of that delay is just making sure on our end that the
application is ready for prime time that it's full and complete and then we have to advertise in the paper and notify a butter so that's a good amount of time that we have to dedicate to letting everyone know that there's an application that will be heard on a certain night
um and then you know sometimes it just happens to be that you know agendas don't line up with that process so for example town meeting delayed um all these ADUs uh another two weeks so you know we do things as quick as we can um
but as you know people just want to move a project ahead of time and sometimes they're just not ready to do so so we have to work with them to make sure it happens so those are some of the changes that are happening in the planning department michaela's left us we need to readvertise for that position and u my
position is going to be changing dramatically come July come July we're definitely going to congratulate you on your promotion we'll wait till then steak dinner that'll be great right but I do have a question about it um you'll still be coming to the
planning board won't you i will yes okay y I'm not leaving sure but just checking jim um just a comment um in my experience in town I've had to ask uh professionals like architects
engineers what do they think the total process time is to go through a permit with a special permit and everything and they've delayed it out as two years because you take all the hearings the notices the appeals and that that that is what the worst case scenario is and
we're hearing someone say "Well we could get this done in 60 days or or clo that that that sounds pretty good i just want to put the reference is that's the outside opinion of our town what's the worst case scenario?" You ask them "What do you need for a special permit with
appeals on each board all the stuff you go through the back and forth?" And I have one other thing i had a I was dreaming about daydreaming about how we can prove our talent i said "Well I watched the select the um CBA." I said "Well they're doing the same damn thing we are why are we having two boards?"
And then I watched how much detail they go in and how many things they look at the use i said "We don't have time for that we definitely need the two boards." But it is a really complicated complicated process and we have two or three dedicated boards with the health department and good luck thank you well
plus CBA is dealing with something very different from what we are well the use right but they they also correct our stuff too though they they comment on the plan for the most part what they're dealing with are residential property changes and this is where the the business and commercial properties come for their site plan review
they do special permits for everything some of them have to move on if they Yeah but it it's different from what they do i've watched a few of the meetings and they I have a different opinion but I'll just be quiet right there i'm all set okay
well will there be any increase in staff to assist the community development director because there's a lot of things that you're going to have to do that are outside the current uh requirements of the staff there we
lost Michaela who was doing community development coordination and there's going to be a role to coordinate with all these different departments that's not the assistant town planner's role so is there going to be someone added to assist you in that role no there's not
good luck broad shoulders you can do it it'll it'll be okay it'll be okay our community development um planner position as as I went through typically
helped with special projects that we work on and so we've got a number of those things those include zoning bylaw changes planning work that we're doing um local comprehensive plan update etc we're looking to transition that role into doing the historical commission
review and attending those meetings so that the assistant town planner can help directly on the day-to-day operations this board's applications and all of our special projects so we're making some shifts to make it uh more efficient uh within the
department itself plus as you're alluding to um we're talking about potentially um at least it's an idea right now is making these ADUs that are um protected use making them part of just what the building department can um
approve and not requiring an applicant to come before the planning board so it would reduce your workload which reduces our workload it makes it quicker for the applicants um and so those are some of the things that we're going to be working on to make sure that you know we can just get people through the through the process as long as they meet all the
requirements let's just move them through the process so the building commission would be doing uh design review as well essentially doing plan review yes and they would there would be consultation likely by uh by myself or um Belinda as to the architectural uh
style but we have to be very careful because the attorney general's office provided um or I shouldn't say the attorney general the uh department of housing and livable communities provided a model zoning bylaw for the accessory
dwelling unit um the protected use ones and in that there was language that indicated that we couldn't require or a community could not require that uh the architectural style of the ADU match the primary dwelling and so we have to be
very careful on the language that we use and that's why I was suggesting that we wait until the AG's office comes back with our amendments because we kept that language in there yeah so I'm curious to see whether or not the attorney general will say you can't have that in there anymore because now these ADUs
especially the protected ones they're considered just like child care solar um educational uses they are protected uh under chapter 48 and so there's very little that you can do with them it's uh yeah I I think that if that goes away uh
there's going to be a lot of push back because uh the very first one we did was essentially a double wide planted uh next to the house next to my house and I got a lot of blowback from the neighbors saying "What the hell did you guys do?" Yeah
yeah how many daring hearings did we have on that too it was really Yeah how many hearings do we have on that it was a long drawn up drawn out you know are we going to get people just plopping a mobile home onto a piece of property hey you know if there's no design review
you can get a a prefab building which is essentially a mobile home yeah if if you're not uh concerned with roof pitches and all that flat roof yeah right big deal you know and this is a
town that does trade on its character so you know just just my thoughts no and somehow I had thought that the wording in this in the new state law allowed towns to add uh additional requirements to it and that that would be such an
important thing they wouldn't disallow it yeah so the the important qualification here is you're not allowed to deny the application based on that criteria the question is can you have the criteria at all and so that's why we're eagerly awaiting the attorney general's review to see will that pass
muster because if it if it passes then we're fine if it doesn't then we've got to go back to the drawing board and consult with HLC to say well where's the limit right and so I think a lot of communities are trying to figure this out just like we are because the state law just dropped and then the
regulations dropped thereafter and then here came a a model bylaw that you know we don't have a lot of the information that's in the model bylaw so there's a lot to do there but roughly June we'll you know we'll know more and we'll be
preparing for November's town meeting and that will be one of the items that we'll take on either if the board's comfortable just completely removing it and from site plan review and just giving it to the building commissioner or adjusting our bylaw to make it as
simple as possible okay um planning department report did you Oh I'm sorry Paul the U article two at town meeting that was approved the position that you've been appointed to did not mention
the historical commission uh you mentioned all the different groups that are reporting directly to you but there isn't that seems to be missing is that part of your bay wick as well it will be yes will be yes y so we
the planning department will continue to staff and provide administr administrative uh services to the historical commission which is very similar to what we do for for this board it's processing applications and working with the chairman to set up the meeting and then um issuing decisions afterward
and you've been doing administrative approval for them for years yes yes yeah well as far as the additional work is concerned one way of looking at this it might not be quite correct is that in order to coordinate the process of things coming before us they go before
all of the boards that now Jed will be supervising and he was already coordinating with them so now he's really um picking up the authority that really went with that responsibility so I think this position change was
first recommended I believe under town manager Suso and was not approved by town meeting um I think it wasn't even approved by the select board at the time but it might have been but it got turned down anyway so but it it's been simmering there because it's it's so
obvious that those particular all of those departments that are involved in getting a physical building up and going and running um need to work together smoothly and they do i think it's an important component i mean we meet regularly on applications to to review
them and to ensure that you know because we're human beings we're going to miss things at times but that those meetings are invaluable to to indicate there's this requirement this requirement and this requirement give it all to the applicant once and just send them through the process because there's nothing on the organizational chart that
that's the way it is yeah it's it's gone after unified leadership so it's it's really great one final question we need an appointment to see you i would I would prefer that yeah only between the hours of 12 and 1
right please any further planning department report um the only things I wanted to let you know about is we are applying for the onetop for growth application so we're looking to get funding for the 151 water
main project that we were not awarded last year so we're going back a second time and um I think I reported this to you last time too is we are looking to hire a consultant to update our local comprehensive plan so uh those
applications are due I think June 2nd so we are currently working through the process of putting together the best grant application you've ever seen um and we'll be submitting that on time um we also are working on identifying a number of zoning changes that we might
want to bring forward to the November town meeting things such as as I mentioned before site plan review um we do need to update our flood plan overlay district bylaw so we have a model bylaw and we've received some input from um some very smart people on how to update
that so we're currently working on that there's also the coastal pond overlay district which um as you may know is a bit in flux considering the new regulations by D and the watershed permits that will be applied for and
shortly um by the our wastewater division so that may have an impact on the coastal pond overlay district and we might be able to eliminate it entirely um but we're still working on exactly when we might be able to release that because again with a watershed permit
whomever is included within the watershed permit it all falls within the board of health's jurisdiction um on whether or not they'll need a denitrification system can hook up to the sewer etc etc so we would no longer need to have that coastal pond overlay district um that you know requires the
impact analysis and potential dietrification sorry process wise is that going before the recotification committee before it gets here or are those changes coming directly here or what i'm not certain that we're going to continue with the recottification um we have different
consultants it's not that it's that um that effort was challenging to oversee um so I have a vision um of something different and I you know I want to try to just formulate that first and then
bring it forward to to you folks so that you understand how we want to proceed with zoning changes but it took an awful lot of time to get through that it really we can do it a lot more efficiently and and quicker okay Jim you want just a question yeah um now that you're going to be looking
at those things the biggest question that I have to deal with in my profession is what the town changing where the rumor is that everything will become an IA septic system and it there'll be a requirement for everything
in town not just in border areas and uh you know board of health has come and made talks about that coming forward this is something all should be worried about and changing it really affects my business a lot where do you see the timetable you think is this something that's gonna happen in six months a year
two years it's hard to say because the board of health is currently working on some draft regulations uh related to IAS and um my understanding is that they will be having public hearings at some point soon um but I still need to confer with
the wastewater division on how soon they will be applying for those watershed permits um and if those wershed permits are going to take longer then we may want to keep the coastal pond overlay district in place until all of them are
applied for so the long answer is all of what I just said the short answer is I'm not certain i really don't know yet so it's still a work in progress other questions
okay um committee reports can we talk an announcement we're not there yet we're not there yet i do not have a report this time tom at the last uh recreation meeting uh Bob Brown's uh stepping down as our chair he
put in three great terms uh and um yeah so he'll be stepping down in June our committee chair for the recreation committee you're talking about other committees i just want to recognize Bobby Brown did
you know wonderful job representing the recreation committee uh as a chair for seven and a half years yeah uhhuh but you're going to continue on it yep hoping to step in as the chair
cape Cod Commission they just received our referral from for the golf course for the solar and they're going to start vetting that soon ah be so sad to see those greens go but
it's a good thing for the town well they've asked me to be the chair for the hearings and did you accept well I I may have to recuse myself from the hearings alto together so we're trying to determine that now with the legal department
they'd be lucky to get you because I'm a member of the golf course uh and because uh they came in front of us once before right right it'll be interesting to see what the decision is i'll let you know
any other reports no um no announcements paul do you want to make an announcement about the 250 committee about what 250 weren't you gonna say something about the No I was going to say something else um I have a
very sad announcement jerry Padamus whom we all know passed away on April 11 i saw that um and I'd like to least acknowledge his effort in the town of Felmouth he served in uh in the army in u Vietnam Operation Dead Shield and
Operation Enduring Freedom he was in the army for 30 years and retired as a colonel he moved to Felmouth became the wastewater superintendent for 10 years he served as a town meeting member he served on the um conservation commission zoning board
of appeals uh he was really a basically nice guy did a lot of work for the town i think he's going to be sorely missed in the town so very very and he was u his service today was at the uh St uh
St george's Greek Orthodox Church in Centerville and he was buried at the uh National Cemetery in Bourne this afternoon did you go i went to the service i did not go to the cemetery uh uh we mentioned a few minutes ago the
recottification committee um that worked with the ZBA with the the staff of the ZBA and the planning board the uh uh building commissioner's office and town council on our long running with Pat long long
runningification project that brought things to town meeting several different times and Jerry was the ZBA representative on that committee for a long time and he had a very very knowledgeable but a very easygoing way about him which helped move the work
along it was it was really good to work with him and I was sorry to read that he's gone very civic-minded other announcements no future agenda items um I have two uh one is um about the
short-term rental we we were supposed to be moving forward on that and not Peep One has been heard since and I hope something gets going i believe that on the April 28th select board agenda there
will be um I believe interviews for that committee and appointments at least the beginnings of of them that's my understanding april 28th as I understand the goal is to bring something to the November town meeting so gonna be a
quickie and then the other one I'd like to bring up um the last time we were discussing we had Jed give us a presentation on the state task force on housing all the different ways um the state came up with the towns communities could think about improving the
situation with affordable housing and um comments were made including one of mine that was definitely picked up on and I think that it might be a good thing if we had an education program initiated by the by the planning board of what you
are able to do now with the existing zoning because many of the things that were named there in fact they're possible under our current zoning we don't need to make any changes to make them possible so I would really like to see if there's any interest among you in
sort of running an education program for people in town who are interested in affordable housing in what you are able to do right now without any single change in the zoning that the bylaws are already there madam Chair I I think I
agree but with what Jed has already mentioned and what's coming down from the state and understanding the impact of this multiple ADU on bigger lots until we hear and digest that I think that should come
first because that's because it's a pretty significant change it is talking about education about no change i know no but this is a state law that we can't do anything about that's my understanding
until I don't think any of us understand that how the complexity of this is if you look at bigger lots and more than one ADU i don't see that as a barrier to understanding what the possibilities are
within existing bylaws okay i was just making a point yeah i No I think what you're saying is true i just don't see it as a barrier over here any interest couldn't that be a newspaper section in the newspaper that uh do an insert i
mean they've done that with other issues where they've actually done a whole section where it's an educational piece where okay everything you wanted to know about housing in Felmouth this is it i think that's a great thing to do but I think it would be you know the whole
thing about trying to teach people about something is redundancy if you can get them you know from all corners a ways to learn the newspaper's one even though their their subscriptions are not that numerous is is definitely one but running a program might be another one
how would you run the program Charlotte would you do it at a night meeting like this or what i haven't planned the program but if you're interested in helping plan the program I think that'd be great i just I'm just curious because
Or would it be an FCTV production that sounds good because FCTV would That's kind of how we did the accessory department exactly yeah that's how we did it and And then it's not just a oneoff they keep running it yeah and they run it over and over and over again
that sounds pretty good we could do a panel in the Herman room and FCTV could televise it as part of that or you could have them do it in their stereo in their studio where they have proper lighting microphones and everything really great color works much
better if you do it really does if you do it in the studio as opposed to the herman room is like believe me I think if you did it in the studio you'd be better yeah and it's done more of the worked really well format
okay and you could edit it yes oh right right well would know you enough to comb our hair in advance so who would like to work on that speak for yourself yes I I I'm very interested i'd like to work on it okay so I'm making a list ed
program jim I think I might Pat yeah if we're going to be on TV so the three musketeers for the camera here he's ready to go over here well we don't want to have a coral no we can't have a coral so so we can only
have three but you if you have any questions you just go to H the FCTV and you can see the presentation it's still online you can look at any time you can see how it worked it really did work well okay jim Pat and Bob if those are the three who's
going to head this up not me we'll manage it don't worry we'll we'll amongst ourselves i don't think we ever had a chairman or anything we just you kind of were but we did everything together yes I was so we just need uh someone to coalate the information that
we want to disseminate that's all okay so maybe we could get some support over there from the planning department that'll be good sure great do we have a timeline not at this point we'll resume maybe never maybe at the next meeting you could tell
us the timeline i don't know we'd have to talk about it yeah and see the what let's work backwards when do we want to be presenting it to town when you when's it going to town meeting or there's not going to town meeting what's the what's
the end effect it doesn't have to go to town meeting so when we do it anytime then when do we want it to be finished so why don't we set November is the the end okay that might be pick the end and we'll pick the beginning we're going into summer
people have people coming to visit they're going someplace and it becomes really difficult to coordinate all of that could we get it done before town meeting in November that's was kind of my thought okay you don't want to go into the holiday season no no yeah i actually
have a little bit more time i'm not running two companies anymore it's only one so I could probably Right but then you're not as easy to get hold of and you you can provide the all of the aerial shots to illustrate i can I I can do that yeah right you're handy
no I'm I'm game this is something I'm interested in this is good i'm Thank you thank you i'm really glad about this and general correspondence i didn't see any there was only one um and it was what uh John uh John mentioned it it was the
acceptance letter from the Cape Cut Commission of your DRRI referral for the Cape Cod Country Club Solar Project oh so that's that was an envelope on in your area but uh I got a copy of it as well i was supposed to open that yeah
it's just a copy of it oh we have a copy on file in the planning office thank you and our next meeting is May 13th paul agenda items agenda item may one yeah um you know we spent a lot of time and a
lot of other people did too on that project in Woods Hole with the dome and I came by the other day it does not look like it's getting any better any chance of getting an update of what's going on with that project they're moving along with the buildings quite nicely but the
dome is uh looks like it's not going to make it i can reach out to uh to Mark Bgoian and see if he would provide us an update last time I talked to him um which we don't have to now maybe put on the
agenda and get an update because it's in it's getting worse right in start doing something it's going to collapse yeah okay that was a big issue not too long ago oh yeah no I think it's a good idea you
must have driven up around there to know that on the agenda i did any other agenda items if you think of some within the week when when is that going to be on the agenda please may 13th may 13th
i just might I'm going to try endeavor to uh do a survey with my drone and just take a picture of the whole site have to be fresh what it looks like just for our meeting i'm going to try to do that okay i'll have to fly my
I'm gonna try I'm gonna I need to have certain days blue sky and no wind and day I can do it and recently that has not been the case it's a little bit difficult but if I could get a blue sky day to fly that I'd love to do it and just bring it right to the board well that'll make it very immediate yeah the
be fresh each of our agenda no all right never mind yes make a motion we journ second second all in favor i We'rejourned thank you very much [Music]