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your local partner. Martha's Vineyard Bank. Your goals, [music] our guidance. Okay. Good evening. I'm going to call to order the Town of Fland Select Board regular meeting for Monday, June 1st,
2026. It is 6:00 p.m. We have two matters on for executive session. Uh number one, uh MGL chapter 30A, section 21A3, review and consider approval of proposed settlement for a personal
injury claim with a third-party insurance company pursuant to section 6513 of the town bylaws. And number two would be MGL section 30A section 21A3 discuss the threat of potential
litigation. Do I have a motion to go into executive session? a motion and uh >> sir, >> do you need one motion for each? >> No, I think we can just do the whole thing here. Uh second >> second. >> Okay, we have a motion and second by
roll call. Mscowi I. >> Goldstone I. >> Brown I. >> Klein I. >> Reed I. >> Okay, we will uh adjourn and be back at 6:30. Thank you. >> Okay.
Okay. Uh board has returned from executive session and I will now call to order the regular meeting of the town of Fouthmouth select board. Uh please join with me uh with the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Well, uh the next item is the reorganization of the board. So, uh it
is customary after the May elections that the board uh reorganizes. Uh and I have a very short statement here. Serving as chair the past 12 months has been a privilege and an honor and and one of the most rewarding experiences of
my life. I've decided not to seek reappointment as chair due to personal and professional commitments that require my attention and I believe it is the best interest of the board that there be new leadership at this town. I want to thank my vice chair Dr. Goldstone and the other members of the
board for their support and dedication to the town throughout this the past year as well as to Mr. Wrenchure and Mr. Johnson's staff. Together, we have faced challenges, celebrated achievements, and worked towards a vision that reflects the values and community engagement that
defines our town. I'm deeply proud of what we have accomplished, and I am confident that with new leadership, we will continue to guide the town of Fmouth with integrity and a strong sense of purpose. Uh, at this time, I would like to recognize our newest uh member
of the select board, Elizabeth Klein. [applause] >> [applause] >> And I will open the floor for nominations for the positions of chair and vice chair. >> I'd like to make a nomination for Dr.
Heather Goldstone uh as chair. >> I'll I'll second that motion just so we have it on the floor. [snorts] Dr. results. Now, >> I would uh be honored to accept that nomination. Um, and if you'd permit a
brief, I I I ran for office um uh because I saw that our town had uh major issues that we needed to be confronting and uh we heard at our the first of our strategic planning sessions this past year that that each of us
similarly expressed that we had um joined this board to tackle those big issues. As you alluded to, I think we've made a lot of progress um in in my time on the board in surfacing uh some uh issues that are are a bit overdue in
starting to develop action plans, tackle things like our long-term finances, um coastal resilience and housing. Um and I think we're at a point where we need to really step up and level up how this board is working together as a team, um
both the select board and with town management. um as we go into the next uh couple of years of grappling with um the competing demands of housing, of wastewater infrastructure, um of other
uh infrastructure needs around the town and our our tight finances. And I think that um I have skills to help us do that. Um I'm a trained and and certified facilitative leader. What does that mean? means I've spent a bunch of time
uh gaining a skill set to help groups uh coales around a shared vision and work strategically to achieve that. And in particular with this board, I would hope to um well, first I will I will uh
paraphrase something that was recently said to me by uh Representative Dave Vieira that elections are a competition. Governing is a team sport. And for us to be a team that works really well together, we need to recognize that uh we all have different strengths. Uh we
bring different constituencies and different life experiences. I will never know as much about the law as you do, Mr. Mscali, or about construction as you do, Mr. Brown. Um and I think we should see those differences and leverage them as collective strengths rather than individual weaknesses. And so that is um
the the tone and the um the working mode that I would like to to try to bring to the board as chair. >> Mr. Brown, >> if I could I I will say now that I have reached out to each of you and indicated I too was hoping to be chair. The reason
for that is a couple of things. One is you know it's taken a long time to get things on the agenda. You know, I for the whole year I asked about the financial uh joint meeting with the finance committee and I know it takes time to put these numbers together and I
appreciate that. But I think there's one thing the other primary thing that I struggled for a whole year to get on was that uh communications policy and I really think that's a weakness that we have right now. And if I were chair, I would be answering many of the emails
that I have listed here that these people are still waiting to hear from us over the course of this last month. And now we talked about that need a month and a half, two months ago. I don't really see anything that's really changed. And just talking about it doesn't really do it. And I feel like
that is one of the main reasons I would be willing to be chair again. I know I'm not nominated right now, but I'm in my fourth term. I've indicated that this is probably my last couple years on the board. I would appreciate your consideration of uh supporting me in
that role for the reasons I've given and I got a a long list of other things I'm not going to go into because I don't want to have an unpleasant conversation here. I think we're a good board. I think we work well together. I think either one of us would do a good job. So, I'm not in fear of failure, but I'm
just put making my case that I will respond to the emails. I challenge you if you're going to be chair to do the same or at least participate in some way because I I really haven't seen I don't know how that's really working. Like I said, I've got a bunch of people that have been reaching out to me saying why am I not hearing back when I send
requests to be on the agenda and when I ask for, you know, questions about issues, it's important that we be responsive. So that's my case. I I couldn't agree more and um I I do think it's important uh that that we be
responsive. Um I do want to also be realistic recognizing that every single member of this board also has another full-time job. Um but as chair, I would commit to uh responding to all emails uh or ensuring that there was a response if appropriate from from town management
within 48 hours um of receiving that that email. Um and I also uh to your point with the agenda uh would uh have a proposal for tackling at least some of the the larger issues potential workshop
issues um so that by mid July we have a tenative um outline for the coming year of what those larger topics would be and when we would be tackling those. >> Anyone else anything to say? Miss Klein. >> Thank you Mr. Mscali. Um, yeah, I spoke
with both Mr. Brown and Dr. Goldstone in the last week regarding this and have heard from uh members of residents of Falmouth as I was going about my my week and seeing people in the store and in other places and um hearing from them
how they thought that what they thought would be a good direction for the board to go. And I have a lot of respect for both Mr. Brown and Dr. Dr. Goldstone having worked with them in different capacities. At this time, I would say that my vote will remain remains with Dr. Goldstone um with again Doug or Mr.
Brown the utmost respect. >> All right. >> Okay. >> I'll think about it. >> Okay. I will ask in public. Can we make the appointment of Dr. Goldstone unanimous by this board.
>> I'll vote I. >> I. >> Is that a make a deal? [clears throat] >> I guess I'll vote for that, too. >> Okay. Thank you, Doug. [applause] >> Thank you for your support. >> Oh, boy. [applause] Okay.
Um, >> taking too long for [laughter] now. It's official >> paraphernalia. >> So, uh, so we now have position for vice chair. Or is there a nomination for the vice chair position? Dr. Goldstone.
>> Um, I I'm going to uh I I have spoken with Mr. Brown about this multiple times. I will extend uh the offer of a nomination uh one last time. Mr. Brown, if you would uh accept that or not, that's up to you. >> I'll just cruise on my last couple
years, I think. >> Uh in that case, I will >> never just cruise, Mr. Brown. We know that. [laughter] um had to try. Um but uh thank you for obviously serving in in any capacity. So
um with that I will nominate uh Mr. Reid. >> I'll second that nomination. Any further discussion? >> Madam Chair, I just had one comment if you would allow me. Uh so historically the vice chair has been uh wears a the
hat of um secretary or clerk clerk to the select board. Um I'd recommend we formalize that um with this vote so that going forward the the vice chair also serves in that capacity as clerk to the select board. >> Are you willing to undertake that
position? >> Can you can you provide a brief overview of what is entailed in the role of clerk? I I've I remember fulfilling it once in the past year, which was two weeks ago. So, >> it's it is a very limited role uh when there are votes. The only time I've seen
it is when there is a vote on a bond and there's a signature required for the clerk. There may be some other documents that I'm not remembering where a clerk signature is required, but it does not require any additional time. >> We don't have to fix the minutes.
With that, I would amend my uh nomination to nominate Mr. Reid as vice chair and clerk of the select board. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> Okay. Congratulations, Mr. Reed. [applause] >> All right. With that, we can move on to
proclamations. Uh, and Mr. Mscali, have you spoken to any members in particular about reading these proclamations? I >> have not, but I'd be happy to read at least one of them. >> Okay. Well, let's start with the Pride Day proclamation if you would do the honors. [snorts]
>> Okay. This is a proclamation for Fmouth Pride Day. Step right up for Pride. Whereas lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride month, LGBTQIA plus Pride Month is celebrated each year in the month of June to commemorate the
1969 Stonewall riots in Manhattan that marked the beginning of the gay rights movement in the United States. For generations, LGBTQIA+ Americans have summoned the courage to live authentically and proudly, even when it meant putting their lives and
livelihoods at risk. In 1969, at the Stonewall Inn in New York, brave LGBTQIA plus individuals protested the violence and marginalization they faced, boosting a civil rights movement for the liberation of LGBTQIA
plus people that has transformed our nation. Since then, courageous LGBTQIA+ Americans continue to inspire and bring hope to all people seeking a life true to who they are. LGBTQIA+
people also continue to enrich every aspect of American life as educators, entertainers, entrepreneurs, athletes, actors, artists, scientists, scholars, diplomats, doctors, service members, veterans, and so much more. Whereas the town of
Falmouth is committed to celebrating diversity, working to diminish isolation, bias, and prejudice and to promoting connections within the LGBTQIA plus community, with the community of allies, and with the community at large.
And whereas transgender, two-spirit, and non-binary people in particular face severe and increasingly daunting challenges and threats that demand our attention and response. And whereas the town of Felmouth prides itself on being
a welcoming and inclusive community that celebrates diversity and takes justifiable pride in the efforts and accomplishments of LGBTQIA plus residents. Now therefore, we Robert P. MScowi, Heather MH Goldstone, Douglas
C. Brown, Colin W. Reed, and Elizabeth M. line. As the select board of the town of Felmouth do hereby declare June 12th, 2026 to be Pride Day in Felmouth, in witness whereof, we have here to set our hands and cause the great seal of the
town of Falmouth to be affixed this day, Monday, June 1st, 2026. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. And uh two quick announcements related to that. Uh the Woods Hole Pride Parade is this Saturday
and the town's Pride celebration will be uh the following Friday on uh June 12th. Um we have another proclamation. June is a fun month. Um for Junth, uh Mr. Brown, would you care to do the honors? >> Sure.
>> Yep. You got this, D. Massachusetts Junth Community Proclamation. >> Excuse me. Whereas Junth officially recognized as Junth National Independence Day, commemorates June 19th nu 1865, the historic day when Major
General Gordon Granger arrived in Galveston, Texas and enforced the emancipation emancipation proclamation marking the final liberation of enslaved African-Americans. And whereas Junth symbolizes the resilience, determination, and achievements of
African-Americans while serving as a reminder of our nation's complex history and the enduring pursuit of freedom, justice, and equality. And whereas the Commonwealth of Massachusetts formally recognizes Junth as a state holiday, and in 2021, the United States designated as
a federal holiday, further acknowledging its profound insignificance in to American history and culture. Whereas the town of Felmouth is committed to fostering racial unity, promoting social justice, and ensuring that the lessons of history contribute to a more welcoming, inclusive, and
equitable future for all residents. And whereas Junth provides an opportunity for education, reflection, and action, allowing the Falmouth community to remember the past, celebrate the contributions of civil rights leaders, and work toward racial reconciliation and justice for all. And whereas
Falmouth is dedicated to educating its residents about the importance of Junth, including cultural traditions such as the liberation ceremony, celebrating both past and present civil rights leaders, and promoting understanding and healing to strengthen racial relationships for future generations.
Now therefore, be it resolved that the town of Felmouth does hereby recognize June 19th, 2026 as Junth Independence Day, and encourages all residents, businesses, and community organizations to observe this day with meaningful reflection, education, and community
engagement. In witness whereof, we, Robert P. Mscali, Heather MH Goldstone, Douglas C. Brown, Colin W. Reed, and Elizabeth M. line as members of the select board of the town of Felmouth do hereby affix our signatures and seal this first day of June 2026.
>> Thank you. >> All right. [applause] Okay. Great. Um so moving on to recognitions. Are there >> do you have anything? >> Um >> no. >> Did you guys have anything? I'd like to
recognize the bike and pedestrian committee for a fabulous jubilee on a uh rainy Saturday making uh lemonade out of lemons, I guess. Um still a lot of fun even though it was all inside and I think some hearty folks actually still got out there and biked and walked. So
So that's terrific. Um Walk for Hope was Sunday. Oh, Miss Glenn, do you want to There was a great event on Sunday. Um there were three Walk for Hopes all organized by Hack. Um, and the Fmouth one was well attended, had great energy. We had much better weather than the bike
and pedestrian committee. Um, and so that was a really fun event and it was nice that it recognized belonging to each other as um was their organization that they chose to honor for the year um as doing great work in the community. >> If there are no others, I will recognize
our own Mr. Mscali on the event of his 75th birthday. And we won't sing, but we'll give you a round of applause. Congratulations on that day. [applause] >> Thank you very much. Appreciate the recognition. >> All right. Um, are there announcements?
>> Yes. On Friday morning, the Wounded Warriors will ride from North Velmouth down the bike path to Woods Hole and back. So, if you have any time, they start off at 9:30 in North Felmouth. Just pop out to the bikeway and cheer them on as they go by. It's a great event. We host it every year. I think it's 14 or 15 years we've been doing it.
So, they love coming to Felmouth. It's great. >> Yep. >> Miss Klein, >> um this is uh an event on June 13th. Um so, we do have another meeting before then, but just to get it on people's calendars, it's a Saturday morning event from 8 to 10 being hosted by the Fmouth
Veterans Center. It's the third in their series. Um all about financial fraud, in particular, financial fraud that's targeting older individuals and veterans. And this time they have a great guest speaker. They have um Rebecca Dutra who's the Massachusetts Attorney General will be speaking and
then participating in discussion. So um I went to one of them. It was a a great event and I would strongly encourage people to show up. >> Good one. >> Quick reminder that uh June 13th is also Arts Alive. Um lots of fun downtown. Um,
and uh would be remiss if we didn't say a congratulations a little in advance to the graduates of Falmouth High School uh who will be graduating on uh on Saturday. >> All right. >> And I just u just announced we did receive an email from Representative
Vieiraa that the uh bill with respect to the licensing commission uh here in Falmouth has moved forward to third reading. So, it's it's moving forward and hopefully will be uh passed before the expiration of this session.
>> That is excellent news. Thank you. >> If there are no other announcements, um Mr. Town Manager for your report. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I do have three items. First and foremost, and a topic that is on everyone's mind in the community, uh North Felmouth Elementary School, uh roof. Um, as you all have
been briefed, um, on April 23rd of this year, uh, the school, uh, became aware of some, uh, structural, uh, issues with regards to wooden trusses, um, in, uh, multiple areas of the roof at North Elmas High School and immediately impacted room 40. There's sub
subsequently been a second room that was impacted. Um the uh the reason I'm having I want to give this brief debrief um is the fact that we had on this agenda this evening an item to consider for the select board to consider calling a special town meeting on July 20th. Uh
the reason for that uh request uh was because we were told uh based upon engineering analysis and evaluations that the necessary repairs to the roof the trusses of North Felmouth Elementary School um that cost would be about $1.9 million. not having that um uh that that
funding available would have required us to have a special called meeting to appropriate that appropriate that sum. Um importantly um and I want to commend uh Paul Darts um over at the school department um and a lot of the school staff actually um they um have been
doing a lot of work over the past several weeks u meeting with um their engineer um looking at the uh the roof and ways that we could go about repairing it. Um most recently and this is very important um Maya our insurance carrier also was engaged in those
meetings retained an engineer who did an evaluation of the roof um and then this is really significant made the determination that the damage to 2/3 of the roof they divided the uh the elementary school roof uh system into three segments twothirds of the roof uh
Maya our engineer made the uh determination that it was a covered peril in other words the storms MS from January and February and the snow load on the roof caused the damage to those trusses. Therefore, insurance will cover twothirds of the cost of the 1.9 million. Um, importantly, and we learned
this um last Friday during a a virtual meeting with Maya and the engineers. They're also looking at the remaining the balance third of the of the uh school roof because there is a very uh uh real potential that that also will be covered in full by insurance. We won't
know that unfortunately for the next uh perhaps week, but as soon as we learn that, I'll pass that information on. So, when we learned on Friday morning that um insurance was going to cover a significant portion of those costs, I made the decision to remove the uh the select board's consideration for the
called special town meeting from the agenda. So, I just wanted to let the community know that's the reason it appeared when we released the agenda last Thursday and was taken off on Friday morning after that meeting. The second item I wanted to brief you all on um in the uh in the aftermath of the
epic failure that was the Memorial Day launch of the new trash uh containers from NSET disposal. Um myself as well as many of you were fielding calls during that weekend of Memorial Day. Um NSET owned uh the the disaster. Um approximately a thousand of the 35gallon
carts were erroneously delivered to folks that did not order them. Um, I want to thank Peter McCanner, our DPW director, U because last week, Wednesday, um, he called a meeting with NSET representatives high up their food chain. NSET again owned it and said that
within a week they were going to go back out, send their subcontractor back out and uh, pick up the erroneously delivered 35gallon containers and replace those with the appropriate 65 or 95gallon containers. Um, and according to I spoke with Mr. McCanny this morning
um and he got a report from NSET that they are confident that the majority of the erroneously delivered cars have been picked up. Um there's no more um phone requests from residents um through either NSET's office or ours for any
additional pickup. So I think I'm confident that we've addressed the vast majority of that. Now we're just in the process of delivering the uh the balance of the of the um 35gallon 65gallon and 95 gallon carts. Um I wanted to also mention as part of this briefing because
NASA did own um that issue that um if anyone in the community um is still dissatisfied with the cars that they had delivered, I'm going to encourage you to contact NSET. They have a hotline set up. It is monitored. It's not going to be a voicemail. I'm told that you will
get a response. 508-2551419 is that number and also an email of felmouthnosdisposal.com. If anybody has any remaining issues uh with regards to the carts that were delivered or has not received the proper cart, please give either that number a
call or send an email to NSET because they have committed to fixing the issue. Um and lastly, I wanted to provide the select board and the community an update. As you all know, our finance director, Laura Citroen, retired last Friday, May 29th. Um, we have been in the process for the past several weeks
of uh interviewing. We did a first round interview with three candidates um a few weeks ago and we just had our second round interview on Friday, May 29th uh with um two very highly qualified candidates. Uh based upon the results of reference and background checks that
we're going to be doing now, um we're confident we'll be able to get a a person in that position over the next month or so. By early July, we should have somebody in that in that position. And Madam Chair, that's all I have to report. >> Thank you very much. >> If I could just second uh comment. Uh thanks to Laura for her service and
especially the hard work that she did in her last time in that office when a lot of times when people are retiring they slow down a little bit and she turned it up to get us all those facts and figures to have before she left. So that was great. Sets the ground sets a good
foundation for the next person coming in. >> Absolutely. Thoroughly agree. All right. Um, public comment. Public comment may be made on routine matters not on the agenda this evening. Comments are limited to two minutes. Uh, please introduce yourself and since the matter
has not been included on the agenda, the select board may not participate in discussion of the topic. Do we have Yes. >> Either one. >> Either one is fine. [snorts] Back
to you guys. [cough and clears throat] >> I [snorts] think that's fine. >> Good. Okay. Um, introduce myself as Nan Garrett Logan. Uh, live on Woodsto Road and I'm also part of the Belmouth Gun Safety Coalition. Um, congratulations to the uh elected new uh new and veteran uh
select board members. Uh, and thank you all for doing the work you do. I it's it's a lot of work and uh you need a lot of credit for it. Um, so this coming weekend is known across the country as Wear Orange weekend. Began in 2015. It
was both to remember uh Haida Pendleton and to establish orange as the color we wear for gun violence prevention. Haida had just returned home after playing with her school band at the presidential inauguration in January 23rd of 2013
when she was killed in a random shooting in her neighborhood. Her friends and family were looking for a way to honor her memory. They came up with the idea of wearing orange on her birthday every year. She would have been celebrating
her 28th birthday tomorrow, June 2nd. The idea spread across the country. Beyond wearing orange, some towns light bridges and monuments in orange for the weekend. So, why orange? Some of you have heard this from me in various
places because it's the color we wear to prevent being shot when we're out walking in the woods and fields. So, the Felmouth Gun Safety Coalition has made orange ribbons for you, the Select Board, to uh wear
anytime, especially this coming weekend. Beyond this, the Felmouth Gun Safety Coalition has been busy with a variety of violence prevention and gun safety activities. We have new brochures that address both ends of the age spectrum. One on gun safety at children's
playdates and another on gun safety and aging. We've been making them available through the senior center and the daycare network at Children's Coalition. Our favorite activities are the information tables. We pop up at
community events where we offer free gun locks, suggest alternatives to firearms for self-defense, and enjoy the many conversations we have with gun owners and others in the community and visitors. >> Miss Logan, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to ask you to wrap up. That's your two
minutes. >> Yep. We're president farmers markets and the senior center. And please stop by to say hello when you see us. In meantime, remember to wear orange this coming weekend, wherever you are. And so with that,
[laughter] >> excellent. All right. >> Party favors. >> Yeah, Nancy probably designed these. Excellent. Thank you. >> Miss Russell for your comment. Come on
up. >> Hello, town member precinct 4. And Mr. So wrench actually answered a lot of the questions that I had. So I appreciate that. Thank you. Um my biggest concern right now regarding the North Falmouth
Elementary School roof and structural issues is oversight. Um who is I've sent this in emails. No one has responded. So I think from maybe a good angle going forward is just to kind of just maybe publicly ask
questions. the um right now o who's overseeing this project going forward. So in 2024 the district did contract with next level OPM as a master services project manager through 2028 but he's he's nowhere to be seen now and
allegedly walked off the job of the roof sometime in July. So there's some concerns, right? And who's overseeing this? I don't feel like a finance director and a head custodian of an elementary school are qualified to oversee this project going forward.
Maybe there's plans for that. If there is, I hope so, but we we have not been made aware of any of that. Um, no one can ask questions apparently. So, that's a concern. Um, and if you know it, if it's defaulting to the insurance company being the oversight, like anybody who's worked with insurance, like they're
going to do the bare minimum. And if the insurance company does not cover the other third or two like all those trusses need reinforcement if not replacement. So we already seen the result of what happens when you reinforce one truss and the loadbearing rate weight weight now went to another
truss and so on and so forth right. So, um, I don't think money should be an issue at this point, though. That entire s wing of North Falmouth Elementary needs to be reinforced before the beginning of the school year. It's going to be a domino effect. And it's very
concerning that prior to children returning to school, there was not one single inspection done of that new roof assembly, which was structurally and calculated to be heavier than what was recommended to go on there. So, right
from the beginning of this roof project, there were a lot of things that were not done that should have been done that could have prevented this. And all winter, those kids have been in that building with a roof above them on the brink of collapse as it was explained to
me. Okay. All winter, one more snow event and that would have come down. That side of the building would have collapsed. >> I appreciate your concern. I'm sorry. That's >> I'm sorry. It's just I'm very and I would appreciate um
actual documentation maybe being presented to the public of like the required structural load capacity tests that should have been done. If they're done, just present them. It's really simple. Thank you. >> Is there anyone else for public? >> I just want to submit my emails and the
structural requirements from the design plans into the official record for today's meeting. >> Thank you. Thank you. All right. Is there anyone else for public comment?
Okay. Moving on to the consent agenda. [clears throat] Um, starting with licenses. Uh, consider a vote to approve an application by Bad Martha's Farmers Brewery LLC, 876 East Falmouth Highway, East Falmouth, for a change of officers, directors, and LLC
manager. Two, consider a vote to approve the application by West Felmouth Library, 575 West Falmouth Highway, for a special one-day wine and malt beverages license for a garden party on June 13th, 2026
from 5 to 7:00 p.m. for approximately 120 guests. Three, consider a vote to approve the application by West Falmouth Library, 575 West Falmouth Highway for a special 1-day wine and malt beverages license
for their annual auction on July 11th, 2026 from 5 to 7:00 p.m. for approximately 120 guests. Administrative orders. Uh, one, and I'm going to hold this one. Discuss and consider a vote to approve a letter opposing the steamship authorities's use
of a 5:30 a.m. ferry service out of Woods Hole. Two, consider a vote to approve a request from the Falmouth Police Department to accept a donation of a ZO automatic external defibrillator valued at $1,9736
from bands for badges for placement in a police cruiser to assist officers during emergency response and critical incidents. Three, consider a request for a variance to sign code 184-32 off- premises signs for the placement of
13 off- premises lawn signs for artisans at the harbor to be held on Thursdays from June 25 to August 27, 2026. Four, and I'm going to hold this one as well. Consider a vote to approve a request from John Wesley United Methodist Church for a reduction of the
special event permit fee for worship services at Surf Drive Beach on Sundays from 7:5 through 8:30 26 except 712 and 8:16. Number five, consider a vote to approve a request from far Falmouth Farmers
Market for a reduction in the special event permit fee for the Falmouth Farmers Markets at Marina Park 180 Scranton A from 521 to 10:1526. Number six, consider a vote to approve the petition by NStar Electric Company, DBA Eversource Energy, and Verizon New
England, Inc. for permission to install 11 new midspan JO poles labeled 4291 through5 4292-5 4293-5 429 uh4-5
4295-5 4296-5 4297-5 4298-5 429 SL 9-5, 429/10-5, and 429/11-5
in the right of way of Nathan Ellis Highway in Falmouth. These pole locations are necessary to provide system improvements and increased reliability to Nathan Ellis Highway in Falmouth. >> Hold, please. And number seven, consider a vote to approve and sign the town's response
letter to the Executive Office of Housing and Livable Communities 30-day notice of an application for a project eligibility letter regarding the housing project at Locust Field Road. Do I have a motion to >> that? Madam Chair, I'll move the uh
consent agenda except for administrative orders number one, four, and six. Second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. Um, administrative orders number
one, uh, discuss and consider a vote to approve a letter opposing the steamship authorities's use of a 5:30 a.m. ferry service out of Woods Hole. Um, I was not fast enough to get two minor uh, edits to town management in advance of the packet. Um, I would like, um,
while it seems nitpicking to change two words in the letter. Um, in the first paragraph from use, uh, a 5:30 a.m. ferry to utilize, I sorry, operate and in the final paragraph uh, changing implore to urge.
Um, I see Mr. Krisa is here and I want to emphasize uh the portion of the letter that does say we appreciate um the extent of uh outreach and communication and consideration um that it feels like there's been a real change in tenor at the steamship authority. I
still feel that in sending this letter, it's important that we make clear that um the 5:30 a.m. ferry is not a passive. It is something that the the uh steamshipip authority is choosing to operate and um I don't feel that this board should be
in the position of imploring anyone. Um we're we're not begging for this. We're we're making a request. So >> I would just uh second your comments with respect to the apparent change in tone at the steamship authority. Appreciate Mr. Krisa's uh attendance
here this evening as well as a number of of town events indicating to my mind anyway a willingness to be a part of this uh of this community. So just want to reiterate what you said chairman Goldstone. >> Absolutely.
>> So uh I'll make a motion with respect to uh item number one with the edits as proposed by Dr. Gold Chair Goldstone. Dr. control. So, >> is there a second? >> Is there a second? >> I'll second that. >> Okay. >> All in favor? >> I >> I
>> um administrative order number four, consider a vote to approve a request from John Wesley United Methodist Church for a reduction of the special event permit fee for worship services at Surf Drive Beach. Um I I will share my concern. The reason that I held this is that I am not
comfortable providing um a financial service a financial subsidy for worship services. Um we are of course uh required to um provide uh equitable access to town properties and facilities
um for religious organizations um and their activities. But again, I'm not comfortable providing a financial subsidy specifically for worship activities. Um, if someone else would uh if if the board is in favor of this, if someone else would like to make the motion in favor, um,
>> I'm going to make the motion to consider a vote to approve the request from John Wesley United Memphis Church for a reduction of the special event permit fee for worship services at Surf Drive Beach on Sundays from 7:5 to 8:30 26. Noting that u that this has been
consistently approved by this select board and predecessor board. So, uh, I'm going to make a motion in favor of the vote. >> I'll second that. Also, there's no charge for attendance. So, that's been part of our criteria for waving fees more so than whether or not it's a
religious-based. I >> I just have a question. Have has in the past have the this type of fee reduction been offered to other um religious denominations in Famouth? Right.
>> Oh, to other religious >> like other churches have applied for and received a reduction in permit fees. Has that happened in the past? >> Can't think of one particularly. Um maybe at WoY. I don't have a specific
one to to call on. >> Yes, Madam Chair and uh select board member Klein. The WOI church may be one example. I don't I I can't definitively say 100% but that may be another example >> just rare if it's something that's that's has happened for other
organizations. Um >> it happens a lot for uh nonprofits like at the band shell they have uh music events that are open and free to the public. So that to me that's an important criteria. >> Okay. >> Well I I was um I hear Dr. Dr.
Goldstone's argument that I am also u less inclined to offer a fee waiver for religious organization. However, um I think that you know Mr. Brown makes a good point that these are services that are open to the public and anyone may
attend them um and has become something of a tradition in Falmouth. >> We have a motion and a second. Uh all in favor? >> I. >> No. >> Okay. Um, and finally, item six. Uh, Mr. Reid,
consider a vote to approve the position of NSTAR. And please don't make me read all of those numbers and dashes again, but I'll I'll turn it over to you. >> I will not pull in Jack Richardson to make you say it all over again. Um, my I've received comment from many uh folks
from around town, not necessarily regarding these specific polls, but uh poll replacement in general. It seems that poles are uh serviced by a combination of Eversource and Verizon and they're not well coordinated and
debris is left behind. So my question is we approved these but where is the accountability for making sure the remaining poles debris and secondary poles are finalized? because
the complaints I'm hearing is that there is a lot of debris in old polls left behind. Otherwise, I'm in favor of this one. It's just a question of accountability. >> Madam Chair, board member Reed, fantastic question. And uh what I can tell you is this. In the three years I've been here, the accountability and I
can mention a very specific recent example right right out front. Um the polls that are looks like they're in Main Street and they're still standing. So I recently had a conversation with our uh regional Eversource liaison who who you all know Ronique Goldstein and
uh and she is committed and she has um right now there's an issue with I believe national grid and and in and a gas line. They've cleared past that issue. Now it's just a matter of getting Eversource assets out there to to remove the old poles. Um what Ro explained to
me is and and she's still working on this um the uh the other utilities um the uh the uh phone and and internet lines are the are the holdups right now and they're working with those utilities uh to to have their their assets their lines moved.
>> If folks have one in their neighborhood that needs to be can we where do we send them? um honestly to my office because I that you asked the question about accountability and who who oversees that and and and tries to enforce that and make make those uh make Eversource do
what they intended to do and that would be my office. So I would I would refer them to to me and I'll reach out. >> Great. Thank you. So with that I move to uh approve administrative order B6 without reading all the numbers. >> I will second but I would actually uh
Mr. wrench um request if possible that with these uh this new installation if we could be a little bit more proactive. I know that Mr. McCanny has a a great working relationship uh and as does the whole DPW with um uh our Eversource
colleagues, but if we could just have eyes on this project and ensure that we're not um just waiting for uh community members to come to us with complaints. >> Yes, madam chair. We'll make that a point. >> Be terrific. Uh we have uh a motion and [clears throat] a second. All in favor? >> I I
>> Thank you. Okay. Uh moving on to public hearings. Mr. Reid, are you up for the uh the public hearing notice? >> Notice of public hearing. Removal of public shade trees, town of Felmouth,
Department of Public Works in accordance with Massachusetts General Laws, Chapter 87, sections 3 and 4. Public hearing will be held today on Monday, June 1st, 2026 at 6:30 in the Felma Senior Center at 780 Main Street, Felmouth, Mass to consider the removal of the following
public trees. Colon locations. One, house number 122 Jericho Path. Trees located on Hudson Street. Removed of removal of two white oaks. Uh Latin name Caracus Alba maybe uh size
uh 19 in and 15 in. Reason trees are in the path of the installation of a proposed driveway. The trees identified uh above have been posted for public inspection. Any objections to the removal must be submitted in writing to the tree warden prior to or during the
hearing. The mailing address for the tree warden is Department of Public Works, Town of Felmouth, 416 Gford Street, Felmouth, Massachusetts 02540. Email jeremiah.pearson@felmouthma ma.gov. Phone 508457-2543
extension 3008. >> Thank you. And I believe the applicant is here as you're making your way to the front. Mr. Renshaw, is there uh some background you'd like to provide? >> Yes, Madam Chair, there is. And I just wanted to remind the select board that the applicant did drop off some additional uh plans. Uh you should have
those if your chairs, madam chair, select boards, um the applicant, the homeowner recently did some construction on the house. Uh the tree warden was involved in going out and doing an evaluation of these two uh white oaks. The recommendation from the uh tree warden is that select board consider
allowing the removal of the smaller 15-in DBH white oak located on Hudson Street uh for the house at 122 Jericho >> path and to replace with another tree or trees as the sled board made so direct. At this time, I'll turn it over to the
applicant and answer any other questions you might have. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Chris Ryder, 114 Winslow Road, principal of Noville LLC. Uh we're building the home at 122 Jericho Path on the corner of Jericho and Hudson. Um there are two trees um that are uh at
the entrance to the driveway. If you see the site plan um that I provided to you uh earlier, um we intend to mitigate with first and foremost two trees on Hudson that you can see um uh before the
driveway uh as well as um at least 10 other Sorry, eight other sizable trees and over 100 uh shrubs. Um this is our first time ever coming for a shade tree hearing. We're pro trees. Um we keep as
many trees as possible. Um uh the more the better and uh we're going to plant more trees than were there prior to uh uh us uh building this home. Um if you have any have any other
questions, uh that's all I have. There questions from the board. >> So, is it the applicant wants to remove two trees? Is that it? And and uh Mr. Pearson is recommending that that only one tree be removed. >> Do you want to speak to that? And and
how the project would uh be affected if only one tree was removed? >> Yeah, the the two trees are square in the entrance to the driveway and the garage. Um, I think from a safety standpoint, backing out of the garage onto the roadway, um, or pulling in, um,
the two trees are are right next to each other. Um, and and that's probably the primary, um, reason. Um, uh, and aesthetically, we think the two trees closer to Jericho on Hudson, um, would
better represent the street and the, uh, and the property. Okay. >> Thank you. I have a question. Um, go ahead. >> So, so the current driveway is is going It [clears throat] looks
from the photos, right? It's next to both of these trees, correct? >> It's right in the middle. Yeah. >> Okay. >> It's a proposed driveway. >> It's right, but I'm looking at the photographs. I mean, there's a Is there an existing home on this property? >> It's uh it's framed inside it. It's It's under construction.
>> Um because I think Mr. Pearson's point was that the smaller trees, as you said, they're right next to each other, right? And the smaller of the two trees is the one that he's recommending for removal because it can't grow properly in the way that it's cited. Um, I would just push back and say that a 19inch diameter
oak tree is been there for some time and and it will it's not necessarily a onetoone from a scientific and carbon storage standpoint to plant something um to replace this and as a real big
conservationist uh I would be in favor of Mr. Pearson's recommendation. So yeah, can you also So you we don't have that that I can find anything that actually shows us where the existing trees are. So what's on this plan is the
proposed >> that's the proposed in the circle right at the gap. Um um and on the site plan you can see the permeable driveway. Um and that's where the two trees are right smack in the center. probably >> Yeah. I
>> So, so Mr. Mr. Pearson's suggestion is that the driveway be uh moved. >> Is that possible? >> I think anything's possible. Um >> would would would you consider >> I think it would negatively impact the uh homeowners um or the future
homeowners desire to uh enter the driveway. um kind of straight into their garage versus backing up on an angle um and and pulling into the garage >> just to uh >> it's it'd be a challenge.
>> How can I ask how far along on the project are you now? >> Uh we're about 3 months out. Um we're uh blueboard and plaster. >> Oh, so you've already built everything. >> Yes, everything's built. >> Probably should have come here first, huh? Miss Klein, to your point, um, which I I
wholly agree, uh, the number of trees does not reflect the full value of the trees. Um, I appreciate that the recommendation is is that the smaller um, uh, be cut and not the larger. And
do also note that um in our packet the there it is noted that um that it would require a minimum of five trees um planted as as replacement value, not a a one for one. Um >> we're we're recommending well
exceeding that. >> So these these other trees along the other edge are new plantings that would be part of that replacement. >> Those are all new. Yep. Yeah. It's it's it's about 10 larger trees, all locally sourced, as well as like I said, I know it's small font. I could
>> and and we're also flexible on what we plant. Um this was the homeowner's desire. Um but uh we're well in excess of that recommendation. >> Okay. And and that would be consistent with what Mr. Pearson suggested as an
alternative. Uh if if the two trees were cut down, I think >> the combined Yes. 34. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um so um are there uh comments from the public on this matter?
>> Yes. >> Thank you. I also have a a photo if you want to take a look at that. If you guys want to pass this down. My name is Sandy Stoves and I want to first thank the select board. It's hard work being on a board, especially a volunteer
board. Thank you very much. I've been a Fmouth resident for a number of years now. Fmouth height specifically. So, I walk this area every day and I see almost every day, at least every week, there's a lot of tearing down of older
homes and rebuilding of very large homes. And this is what's happening in this case. the developers will take the house down and then clear the lot basically because the house is so big. And this house, as you might know, is um I think it's in contract for 4.5 million
and it's on about a point4 acre lot, double lot. And what I would say is that when you cut these trees down, they're at least 60 years old because these Helens were built in the 1960s. And that's as old as most of us in this room. So cutting them down, it takes a
lifetime to regrow. So the replantings sound great, but they're small and they often die because they're not cared for. And they're never going to replace in at least in a lifetime what we're cutting down. And we are losing a lot of trees in Fmouth Heights because of this new
development. So what I would say is these two trees are not a hardship for the developer. This was a speck home that could have been built anyway. And this driveway, yes, you can see the garage is blocked by the trees, but
there could be a way to get around that. And that should have been something that was considered in my mind before the plan was built. So, I would ask that the vote be to preserve the valued shade trees that we have in Fmouth that make Fmouth nice. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. >> Is there any other public comment on this matter? Okay. >> Any other discussion? >> I would like to support Mr. Pearson's recommendation and I'd like to have you see if you can work this into your plan,
please, and and come back to us. Maybe you can send us a a picture of how it would look if it was reconfigured because he did recommend that the larger tree be saved. So, there's probably a way you can figure that driveway out, right?
Are you are you request suggesting we come back in? >> Uh I'm suggesting that yeah, if you could take a chance. I don't know if you need to come back, but if you can save that one tree and if you want to come back, if you feel like you just can't figure it out and you need to come back, >> you could to come back would require
continuing the hearing. Correct. >> Yes, it would. >> Um so where is the the board on this? Do we want to continue the hearing to see a a revised plan or are we ready to make a a decision? Sorry, Miss Klein. >> I I feel prepared to make a decision.
Okay. Thank you. >> I certainly welcome if the applicant can configure it in a way that's satisfactory to the board. I would support a continuence and give them the opportunity if if they want to take it.
>> I would second that because I don't think they've really give have a chance to really think about what it is. if we make a decision today that says only one tree that maybe put him in a tough spot. So if he can come in and show us on the
site plan where it is and what the reconfiguration would look like to accommodate keeping the large old oak tree then maybe that's a more fair way to go about it. So the um I think if we do the continuation uh we would want to
a date certain uh with the final meeting of this month June 29th. >> That's great. >> Um be appropriate. So >> we're also meeting next week if you think you could figure it out quickly but >> we need to I believe um we will need to notice the continuation of the hearing.
>> That's right. Yeah, that would be too fast. >> Right. >> Right. So we would need until the 29th to be able to notice the hearing. So, right. Um, >> no, no, I don't think there's no specific notification tonight. You're making the notification. >> Thank you. That was Sorry for the misunderstanding there.
>> So, so do you think you could come back on June 8th or would you prefer June 29th? >> Uh, we could come back on June 8th. >> Okay. Okay. >> So, we have a a motion in a second to continue the hearing uh until June 8th. We need to >> and we're continuing
>> with in hopes that you'll bring another site plan with the pencled in trees and any >> any configuration that might work for you. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All in favor of the continuation. Sorry. >> I >> I >> I >> I a motion to close public hearing. >> I believe we're continuing the public
hearing, not closing it. Am I correct on that? >> Yes. >> Thank you. Okay. Uh our next public hearing uh for the notice, Mr. to read. >> Notice is hereby given under chapter 138 the general laws as amended that Holly Park Variety Inc. has applied for a
change of manager change of officers/directors/LC managers issuance/transfer of stock/ new stockholder and pledge of its collateral of its wine and malt beverages package store license located at 580A North Falmouth Highway,
Felmouth, Massachusetts. Hearing on the above application will be held at the Falmouth Senior Center, 780 Main Street on Monday, June 1st, 2026 at 6:45 p.m. Comments may be sent to the Select Board at Felmouth MA.gov. Per the order of the select board, the licensing board of
Robert Pscali, Heather M. H. Goldstone, Douglas C, Brown, Colin W. Reed, and formerly Jack P. Richardson, now Elizabeth, what's your middle initial? >> M. Klene. [laughter] Publication date Friday May 22nd 2026 found enterprise.
>> Thank you uh Mr. Renshaw. >> Thank you madam chair. Uh madam chair select board subsequent to the publication in the enterprise of this public hearing tonight uh the select board office was contacted by the applicants council. Uh the applicant uh was unfortunately tied up on another uh
matter and was not able to attend. So they are respectfully requesting and I would recommend that the select board consider uh continuing this. We did confer with the applicant through their council and June 8th would be uh would be a time that they would be available. So I'd recommend select board consider
continuing this hearing until June 8th. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I um if it's all right, given what we just did, I'm going to take uh a business item out of order and uh jump
to item H. uh consider discuss and consider a vote to amend the 2026 select board meeting calendar by adding a new meeting date of June 8th and removing June 15 meeting dates. Given that we just scheduled two hearings for next Monday, let's make official that we're actually
meeting >> next Monday. Um >> so moved. Second. >> All in favor? >> I thank you. >> Okay. Uh moving on to business. Uh,
first item, the select board as trustees of the Felmouth Affordable Housing Fund, discuss and consider a vote to approve an application for funding from Falmouth Housing Trust, Inc. to the Fmouth Affordable Housing Fund for the project located at 21 Feeasant Lane, Mr. Renaw, and then Miss Fish.
>> Uh, I am just going to Is uh Kim Fish, our housing coordinator, setting up I believe the applicant is here as well, Mr. Moahan. Kim, did you want to introduce Miss Moahan? >> Sure. Sure. Um, if I may, the just to go over just the the next two agenda items
so that I'm not bouncing back and forth and wasting time, your time. >> Um, the next two agenda items are applications to the found affordable housing fund for a construction of a single family home at 21 Feasant Lane and 20 Brigotine Lane. Both the drive
both these properties were part of the RFP process. Laura Moahan is here on behalf of Fmouth Housing Trust. She's the executive director and I will hand the mic over to her and let her tell about this great project.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. And on that note, and Miss Moahan, if you would like, um would the board be okay with discussing both items together? We'll need two separate motions at the end, but yes, consider both. Yeah. Um if that's helpful to you, Miss >> Moan. Two for one today. get through two
both both of them. Um, thank you, Madame Chair. I love that. And members of the board. Um, um, as Kim said, I'm Laura Moahan and I am the executive director of the Felmouth Housing Trust. Um, the allocation of these items is five
minutes. So, the the presentations were in your packet, but it'll take much longer than five minutes. So, um, I'm happy to just give you a brief verbal overview of both. um homes um and take questions if that okay >> that would be wonderful
>> help with your schedule. Um so 21 Feeasant Lane is um a property in Davisville. You saw this a few weeks ago on the local initiative program application that I presented and we're proposing to build a three-bedroom home
um at this location. It's about an 11,000t lot. Um it'll be a full two bath home. Um it requires a special per comprehensive permit from the zoning board which we will apply for and um we
have requested funding of $175,000 for this one home. Um this was property was awarded to the housing trust through the RFP process. So the request for the one home uh was by the town and we
responded to that request. Um, and that would be an 80% AMI home. So, it would be eligible for the subsidized housing inventory. Um, we are proposing a sale price of 285,000
um for the home and uh hoping to be able to house a family there with perhaps within a year uh or a year and a half. Um, 20 Brigotine Drive is in Hatchville. It is a um byite building lot. Um we are
proposing a two-bedroom home on that property. Again, that lot was um uh part of the RFP process for the town requesting um biders. We bid and were awarded the project. It's a different type of lot because it has a large
drainage area on it. So, we're proposing a narrow two-bedroom home that will fit uh within the what we what we are looking at as the the area that's suitable for development on the site. Uh one and a half baths. That would be a
140% AMI home. Um and that would be sold um at about 360,000 we have in our budget. Um that home we are hoping um things go according to plan to be starting construction uh in
the next few months uh if we are able to secure the building permit in a timely manner. Uh and that property we are requesting again 175,000 in funding from the Falmouth affordable housing fund.
>> So those are the two projects. I'd be happy to answer any questions that the board may have. So the uh the Brigantine is as of right. Is that correct for >> That's correct. M >> doesn't require any uh >> I hadn't looked at this >> any variances. >> I think that's right.
>> It does not. It and the house that we're proposing u meets all of the zoning code requirements. So it would be um an application to the building department directly. There is an advanced treatment uh septic system proposed for both
properties. So, we would have to file an application with the board of health for approval of that, but that would be done during the building per permit application process. >> Excellent, Miss Klein. >> Thank you, Miss Moahan. Um, I was happy to see both of these on the agenda
tonight. I have a question about the 21 Feasant Lane um property, and I think this is a question for town staff. Um, I I I know that you're doing an IIA um septic there. When I looked at this on the map, like where it falls in in Falmouth, it looks like it's in a
neighborhood that could ultimately become part of a sewering plan, right? It's on one of the fingers um along the the southshore of the town. And so my question is, you know, if that homeowner who's going to be meeting an 80% imi
income bracket, are they going to be in the future if that home becomes part of a sewering project required to go through the expense of hooking up to the sewer if they've documented that they have an IIA septic system installed? >> They will
maybe 12 or 15. So the um we have not in the past had exemptions from connecting to the sewer within a sewer service area. I I can't
um I don't have I don't have the sewer plan map in front of me so I can't verify um whether that is in fact in a planned sewer area. It it it may well be. Um and then there is the question of of timing which has not been determined.
But isn't there something in in the discussion that that homes that already have an IIA system that are in an area that's going to be sewer that they have a a length of time before they would have to do that? I I thought there was something
>> there may be discussion but nothing has been decided on that. Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. Um I had one question uh just in looking at the uh financing models for the two projects uh where there uh
is a lot of um donor funds going to one project and a very small amount of donor funds going to the other project and was just curious about that that decision-making process and and how that gets made. >> Yeah, that's driven by the um sale price revenue. So, um, the lower the AMI, the
less that you that we can sell the house for. So, part of the project budget, the revenues coming in um are dependent on the sale price. So, with the Brigotine project, because it's a 140% AMI home,
um, home buyers that earn up to 140% AMI can pay more for a home. And so that home is priced at 360. And [clears throat] um because there's more sale revenue going into the project budget, there's
less uh other funding required for Feeasant Lane. Um the town requested an 80% AMI home there. And because it was requested at 80% AMI, the sale revenue is significantly less. So there's more
of um an other revenue contribution required to to meet the project um development costs to zero out the budget. Um and as a nonprofit, we have end up with a zero budget. So we really
treat these properties together um in concept from a philanthropy point of view. Um we do have a plan in place through our Kate A who wasn't able to be here tonight, our um development officer. Um and we have a number of foundations that we are um will be
applying to as um well as our very generous public donors. So, so we are in concept grouping these two homes together even though on paper one requires less than the other but because of the timing we're looking at them as
really two homes being produced you know within relatively the same year hopefully. [laughter] >> Okay. >> Thank you so much. Okay. I will say one thing to um town management um in looking through this packet and
obviously this was an RFP process and I absolutely want to support these projects um just for kind of accounting uh for our investment in affordable housing uh going forward when we do these and I'm assuming we might do others of these um but when we do um
these kinds of um disposals of properties I would love to see the appraisals um of those properties to understand what kind of what value we're bringing to the project in terms of the land um that was was part of that as well. >> Yeah, I I can tell you Dr. Goldstone that the pheasant lane property is not a
buildable property under zoning. So it has a very low market value. Uh the Brigotine lot even though it is a byite building lot has a very low value as well because of the limited development
area. So, um, there's a reason these parcels went into tax taking. Their market value is, you know, they had, if they had a significant market value, they >> probably unlikely they'd be in tax taking, you know. >> Well, and and we are committed to to
moving affordable housing forward. So, I'm not at all disputing that it's a good investment. >> No, no, I just wanted to point that out for information purposes. Do we have a >> If I may, I just want to uh I just want to compliment the Fmouth Housing Trust for stepping up. These are two very good
projects. Uh, and I certainly hope that with respect to at least 21 Feeasant Lane, which does need a comprehensive permit from the zoning board of appeals, that the zoning board take into consideration, uh, the full support of this select board with respect to this
particular property when they are making their determination with respect to the comprehensive permit. So, uh, if I may, I'll make a motion. >> Please do. Uh with respect to 21 Feasant Lane, motion to approve the application to the Felmouth Affordable Housing Fund
from Falmouth Housing Trust, Inc. in the amount of $175,000, $25,000 for predevelopment costs and $150,000 for construction costs for the construction of one single family home to be deed restricted at 80% of the area
median income at 21 Feasant Lane and to authorize the town manager to execute documentation setting forth the terms of the financial award to the Felmouth Housing Trust. I second. >> May I have a motion and a second? Is there any further discussion?
>> Do that. >> I'll second that motion. >> Excellent. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor? >> I I >> Thank you very much. And thank you. >> We've got another motion to go. >> We're ready to go to 20 Brigantine. Uh motion to approve the application to the
Fmouth Affordable Housing Fund from the Fmouth Housing Trust, Inc. in the amount of $175,000. $25,000 for the pre-development costs and $150,000 for construction cost for the construction of one single family
home to be deed restricted at 140% of the area median income at 20 Brigintine Lane and to authorize a town manager to execute documentation setting forth the terms of the financial award to the Fmouth Housing Trust.
>> Second motion in a second. Any further discussion? >> Just a discussion or question for Miss Moyahan. Um, many times I've been point This is separate but related. These are individual projects which we applaud as a board. Um, as a town we're doing great
on individual projects. This is a big policy question that is for our board to consider but also from Falma. So related question but a little bit different. I've been uh pointed many times to the Champlain Housing Trust up in Vermont as
a model for expensive communities um because it permanent permanently remove the land from speculation as part of the formula. Um it's their way of retaining the middle class workforce despite the housing um rising prices. So I'm
wondering does t does the town of Felmouth have the land and should the town gradually build a cape style or scale community land trust system? I know it takes a long time but should we be aiming in that direction rather than
uh relying on individual projects like these? >> You so your question is should we be moving to a more of a regional type of land >> but a land trust system as opposed to individual housing trusts?
Um, I was just going to say I I I believe that may be a a bit beyond the scope of the the motion, but let's take that up in uh future agenda items perhaps. >> Right. Roger that. >> And I mean, >> you're off the hook. >> Well, that's okay. I I mean, I could answer it by saying that any um
opportunity to pursue um avenues that can benefit the housing crisis, I would say absolutely pursue them and see what those options are. Um, and also I think that it is important to consider Dr.
Goldstone when you mentioned the appraised value. You know, we often don't think about in the home ownership context that these properties are are town owned, but they're not earning anything. By building affordable housing, we are now creating a real
estate tax revenue from these homeowners, which is a benefit to the town. And we often don't think about that. So when we talk about the value that the town is perhaps giving up um you know that is one side of it but the
other side of it is what benefit now are we um acquiring through real estate tax payments from the homeowners um for land that is really not producing any revenue at all. >> Point well taken. Thank you. and I thank you very much for all your support and
of course for Kim and the working group who works really hard on all of these applications and we appreciate that as well. Thank you. >> Let's make this official. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? >> All in favor? >> I >> I thank you.
>> Okay. Uh moving on to item C. Discuss and consider the adoption of an environmentally preferable products purchasing policy. That's a lot of P's. as required by the Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection. Mr. Renshaw. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, a bit of a
background. Back in 1997, the late 90s, uh, the select board adopted a written policy for the procurement of recycled products. Per this policy, and a copy of that 97 policy is included in your packets this evening. Per that policy, the town is committing to purchasing products which
are made of recycled materials. Recently, the Massachusetts Department of Envir Environmental Protection uh has required that every city and town adopt updated environmentally preferable products, EP purchasing policies by June 1st of this year to stay eligible for
2026 sustainable materials recovery program or SMRP grants. And you know that grant is significant to the town of Felmouth. Um we did get an extension. I want to let the select board know. Uh we initially thought that that deadline was the end of June. We learned recently it was the 1st of June. So, we did apply
for and receive an extension. Um, with that, madam chair and select board a copy of the policy. I want to thank the uh solid waste advisory committee staff, Mary Ryther in particular, uh, Peter McCannery, uh, for the work on the draft uh, that is included in your packet. And it would be my recommendation that
select board consider adopting the town of Felmouth environmentally preferred procurement policy as presented in your packets. Yes. And if we didn't, the consequences would be we'd lose grants and but I
mean, how much are we talking about overall? Do we have a bit of an idea? >> I've asked I've asked our uh DPW director Peter McConner to be here to answer those kind of questions. I think it is a significant amount, but Peter, do you have that number? >> Yeah, Peter McCanny, director of public
works. Uh we've been uh participating in the master D RDP grants for 15 18 years now. We usually get about 50 $50,000 a year. So um it is a considerable amount when you start looking at some of the programs that the solid waste advisory um pro um committee
is putting together and also Mary Ry is putting together is for for recycling programs. Um, so I in our in our recommendation, we would prefer to have that um to have that um approved to move through with that. That that does help
with our recycling and the programs that we that we put on. Um and like as as the town manager had said the mass D required that as of this year all all cities and towns that are looking to get RDP grants are required to change um
into this environmentally preferred procurement policy. And basically what they had is they had a template um online that we took and we modified it a little bit to be for Falmouth but um we use the uh mass D template that they had.
>> Thank you. Mr. Mr. Mscali, can I ask uh is there a reason why you would oppose adopting an environmentally preferred products? >> No, absolutely not. I'm just curious what what the consequence would be if we didn't. I certainly support it. >> Excellent. Are there any other
questions? Any other discussion? >> Then it would be doomed. >> I'll make the motion to adopt the environmentally preferred products EP purchasing policy as required by the Mass Department of Environmental Protection as presented. >> I'll second that. We have a motion and a
second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor? >> I >> I >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Uh item D, discuss and consider the adoption of the watershed management financial fairness task force charging document. Mr. Renshaw. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh last
November, the board of health submitted a letter to the select board outlining the board of health's concerns over how the implementation of the Commonwealth's mandated watershed management plan is going to financially impact residents in different ways depending upon whether they would be required to connect their
homes to the town wastewater system will be required to install IIA innovative alternative septic systems or to take u no immediate action. And madam chair, select board, a copy of that November 10th, 2025 letter from the board of health is included in your packet as a
reference. IAS seeptic systems, as you all know, are advanced wastewater treatment units that are designed to remove excess nutrients, primarily nitrogen, that conventional title 5 systems cannot handle. In its November 2020 25 letter to the select board, the board of health indicated that it was
engaging with the public over regulation development and implementation focused on the nitrogen management problem and that during the course of these conversations with the community members. The primary concern that they kept hearing over and over again was the cost to homeowners for the installation
and maintenance of these IIA systems. As the select board recalls, on February 9th of this year, the select board held a joint meeting with the board of health during which one of the points of discussion um was the equitable cost distribution of watershed management planning. During that discussion, the select board directed my office to
initiate a process for the creation of a select board appointed committee or task force that would be responsible for advising the select board and town manager on the identification of fair and equitable cost distributions among property owners related to the implementation of the Commonwealth mandated wershed management plans and to
recommend goals, action steps, and measurable milestones that could be integrated into the select board's strategic plan. I went back and listened to that February 9th discussion and use those notes as a um template so to speak um in preparing the draft which is
attached uh to your packet this evening. Um once the charge is approved the next step would be for the posting and advertisement uh for the task force vacancies after scheduling of interviews before the select board if necessary. And madam chair and sleptboard, madam chair uh had actually um presented to my
office a copy of some suggested revisions. I distributed copies of those suggested revisions uh to each of you tonight. So they should be at your chairs. Um and I've reviewed those revisions and uh and I agree they add value to the uh to the charging document and I'd recommend consideration of
adopting uh those revised that revised charging document. >> Thank you, Mr. Renshaw. um might just speak briefly to the the revisions that I proposed that you all have in front of you. Um briefly, uh I guess my sense is this is
a task force that's going to be um advising the select board. I don't feel that it needs to have a member of the select board on that. Um I do hope that we'll be in very close communication with this task force. Um so having a member of the board um didn't feel necessary, but instead making sure that
there's a member on this board. And I'm aware that I I don't know who this person would be in our community, but we have seen time and again that when we ask for expertise, um our community is often able to develop uh to deliver in surprising ways. And I think having someone on this committee um with some
expertise in um economics and ethics and kind of thinking about large infrastructure projects and how those costs are born um is something that that this um that this task force would really benefit from. Obviously, they can also tap into um experts um as they they
see fit. Um want to make sure that these are folks who are thinking creatively. We're we're trying to look for potentially creative and innovative ways to make uh what we need to get done um more affordable. And then finally uh in this charge we've had a couple of experiences uh over the past couple of
years of uh committees or task forces uh with the best of intentions uh running with their charge and coming back several months later um where and and discovering that the select board and and that committee are are not exactly aligned on the direction they were heading. And so this is an effort to to
say okay uh this last part the task force shall present a work plan and expected outputs for approval by the select board within three months of first convening is an effort to have that board get together say all right what do we think we're doing here what are we expecting to produce by one year from now what you know what should the
select board be thinking how are we thinking about approaching this and come back to the board with that plan to ensure that we're all aligned on on where this task force is headed. So, um, are there are there questions or comments? Yes, Mr. Mscali. >> Yeah, I I guess um I mean there are and
have been other task forces, whatever we call them, where there have been members of the select board appointed. Um, and I'm just wondering uh if if they're if there should be a member uh of the select board either as a member of it or
maybe a direction that there be a leasan so that that that individual can report periodically in advance of the u of getting something from the from the actual committee. So, uh, I' I'd either suggest that we include a member of the
select board on this task force or at the very least u have something in there with respect to a leazison uh from the select board to to the to the task force. And if I could, I think the primary goal of this uh task force is to
determine the equitability of town uh funding of a portion of these projects that are on private property. That's really the biggest challenge. So, >> I think it's going to require a lot of
creativity, right? >> It sure is. It's going to it's got to be more of a social uh science than a a science of technology because >> right >> there you're the cost of it is going to be one factor but the equitability of
this shared pain amongst the town is going to be the really the crux of it. So, we're just going to need thoughtful people who are willing to look at the big picture of the the financial aspect of it, not so much the the nitty-gritty and the nuts and bolts of the the actual technology.
>> 100% agree, Miss Klein. >> Thank you, Dr. Goldstone. Um, I was happy to see that among your amendments you included a reference to urine diversion as an alternative as there are I've been approached by people in the community in the weeks since the election who are interested in having
that option remain viable for them. Um, and so I think it's great because we know that that is something that we um people [clears throat] are continuing to pursue. It is not without its challenges. But if folks are interested in that option, um I'm glad that that's
been included. So something it's much lower cost that can remain available. [clears throat] >> Mr. Reid, >> uh I would agree with Mr. Mscally about the liaison. Doesn't have to be an official member that is appointed, but somebody that is a liaison, too, just to help get to that work plan um that
you've outlined down at the bottom. I think your additions here have been um spot on. I think Mr. Brown pointed to the last bullet in there with this is a social science uh and economics question more than technology. So with that I would like to make the motion to approve
and adopt the watershed management financial fairness task force charging document with the inclusion of a select board liaison um as presented with the corrections. >> So the the amended version >> the amended version
>> with a with a liaison. Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? >> No. >> Hearing none. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Thank you. >> Thank you for your work on that both and the ideas.
>> Okay. Uh moving on. Consider and a vote to approve an application by MVC Hospitality Inc. DBA in on the square for a lodging house license to be executed at 40 North Main Street, Falmouth. Mr. Venshaw. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Really quickly, uh, complete application was received by
the select board office on May 16th of this year. Certificate of inspection is still pending in the building department and hotel, motel, and swimming pool permits are pending in the health department. Closing on the property, according to the applicant, is scheduled for May 29th or was scheduled for May 29th. Special permit number 19-12 is
included in the packet this evening. There are six earlier permits associated with this property available upon request and reviews of the application received from fire rescue and health departments with no concerns or issues being expressed by either of those departments. >> Excellent. And
>> certainly you have >> we have since received all of the approvals and I brought an extra copy of a binder with everything in it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> They should have all been also submitted electronically by my office. Thank you, sir. And madam chair and
select board as you as you all know typically we if if there's anything outstanding before the um the the uh license is issued um our office holds that license. Um but the applicant is stating that those requirements have been met. So everything is >> Thank you. >> Yes. Go ahead,
>> Madam Chair, members of the board. My name is Michael Rosen. I represent Mount Vernon Company. Uh Mount Vernon Company is in the process of acquiring the in on the square. This will be the eighth hotel uh in their hospitality chain. The Mont Vernon company is also a much larger commercial real estate
organization. Uh the Inn on the Square will be operated by a company called Olympia Hospitality, which currently operates 41 hotels throughout the country, roughly half of which are boutique in um unique uh like the end on
the square. Uh we've uh submitted all of the applications. We've uh done updated floor plans for the hotel because the ones that the the town had were u 20 plus years old. We were asked to redo those floor plans. They've been
submitted. They're in the packages. The building inspector has reviewed them and signed off on them. Um I think we have everything uh submitted that this board would need to consider our application. I have with me this evening the COO CFO
of Mount Vernon company, Mosen Visalei. If you did have any questions, we could answer them for you. Thank you. I have a one quick question um for town council on the difference between uh an inholder and a lodging house license given that
this property also has a restaurant involved. Um, so I would have to pull up the definitions. They're they're statutoily defined. Is there something in particular that you're looking for? >> I had never looked closely at them and went looking in a lodging house appears
to be a lodging house and an inholder. See, so perhaps the applicant can >> So we we knew the exact same licenses that were already in place. I would point out to this board that we do not operate the restaurant nor do we hold a liquor license or anything else with
regard to food service. It is a leased tenant uh and it is a breakfast and lunch. >> Okay, that that might explain it that it's a a different body holding the the common virtual and other licenses. Thank you. Um are there questions or comments from the board?
>> Yes, Mr. Mscali. Uh, you know, my experience has been that the in on the square has always been a very accommodating and affordable option for people who are coming to uh to the town of Falmouth for tourism. Uh, are there any plans? I don't need a commitment,
but I'm just wondering if uh you would envision there being a big increase in the rates as a result of the transfer of ownership and and a new operator in there and fixing things up. As with any hotel, I think they would take it one
step at a time. They'll go and they'll look at things that can or should be improved. They'll look at what they need to spend in order to make those improvements. And then with any good property owner, to the extent that they're borrowing funds and incurring debt and spending money, there probably would be incremental increases that
would cover those costs and expenses. There are, as as of present, there are no plans to make major renovations to the property. And when you say a boutique, I mean, is it I mean, I don't envision it or consider it at this point to be a boutique hotel. U is that going
to change? It's it's an independent. So, for instance, um the other hotels in the portfolio, uh the Revolution Hotel in Boston, which is not under a a a moniker, um 19 Broad Street in
Nantucket, the Swain House, 21 Broad Street in Nantucket, 76 Main Street in Nantucket, uh the Bow, which is a a a single hotel in Portsouth, New Hampshire. um recently acquired the John Cover Inn and Spa in
Plymouth, Mass and also recently uh acquired uh the North Conway Grand. So these are kind of boutique, not identified with a chain. They're not under it's not a Hilton or a Ramada or a Sheridan. These are single standalone. And if you want to I can give you the
the the hotels that we do. >> That's okay. I mean, if you want to submit it, that's fine. But you you mentioned them. So, you know, >> the only one that's not in here is >> the North Conway brand because that was acquired on May 19.
>> Okay. I have no more questions. Thank you, >> Mr. Regent. >> Um, more of a statement than a question. The scientific community, which is our largest employer outside of Steamship and the hospital, uh relies on hotels like the in on the square. Uh and they
have worked on um beneficial rates for the for the community because we often have to hire uh people that are coming from long distances. So, it is my hope in this statement that uh the hotel will continue to honor those types of uh
rates that are currently established. Understood. Thank you. Thanks, >> Miss Glenn. >> Um, curious if there you may not be this far along in the process, but if are there any plans to retain the current staff, in particular, the management
staff who may provide really good expertise and knowledge of the area. >> So, the majority of employees will be retained. Uh, we do bring in our Olympia hospitality, which is the management company, but the individual employees, the staff would be retained. We've
already renewed the lease for the summer employees to come. So we provide quarters for summer employees and we've done those types of things so that we expect a continuity uh in the employees who are there. >> I appreciate that. Thank you. >> You're welcome.
>> I will follow in the same vein. Um and given what you've said about the fact that the restaurant is uh an independent uh leie uh to your knowledge is there any change in that arrangement and who that who will be operating that? >> There's a lease with the restaurant
operator. I believe it has several years left. I do think in the future that will be something we look at. I think we would like to see dinner served there. Um I think that would be a nice amenity for the hotel. Um, but there is no
present change. The again, we didn't take over the common vehicle license. We didn't take over the alcohol license. And there's a lease. I think it runs through 2028 or 2029 that was just amended and assigned. >> Okay. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Not it was just
assigned. >> Okay. Thank you. There any other questions uh or concerns from the board? Is there a motion? I'll make a motion to approve an application by MVC Hospitality Inc. DBA
in on the square for a lodging house license to be executed at 40 North Main Street Fountain. >> I'll second that. >> Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Thank you, Madam Chair, members of the
board. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh discuss and consider a vote to approve the application for a change of manager by Badmartha's Farmers Brewery LLC at 876 East Falmouth Highway East Falmouth. Uh Mr. Renshot. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. The original
application was filed uh November 3rd of last year. Select board approved this application on December 1st of 2025 and uh as is the practice forwarded the application to the ABCC on December 4th. On April 13th, an Alcoholic Beverages
Control Commission investigator sent the Select Board Office notification that the application was being returned no action and requested assistance from the Select Board's office, having been unable to reach either the proposed manager or the bad Martha's Edgarin
manager, Miss Mia Bened Benedito, uh who I understand signed the application erroneously. Um the form as I have been explained uh as I've been told the form should have been signed by the LLC manager sleighboard office mailed the
LLC manager Mr. Jonathan Blum the proposed manager and Ed Edgarton Badmartha's manager advising them of the outstanding requirements of the ABCC and the inability of the ABCC to contact these managers. On April 29th, the ABCC
advised that all change of manager applications that are returned due to inconsistencies between the application and the officers of the entity with a beneficial interest in the license require that a new change of manager application and an application of change of officers directors LLC manager on May
4th of this year with required applications received from Bad Martha's and notice of violation with no required I'm sorry applications having been received. The sleighboard office uh mailed the notice of violation sent to the LLC manager and to the brewery by US mail and email. On May 8th, the
sleighboard office was advised that attorney Mr. John P. Connell would be assisting Bad Martha's Farm Bad Martha's Farmers Brewery LLC in completion of the required applications. Uh Madam Chair, select board applications were received on May 14th and completed with some
minor adjustments on the 19th of May. Um, town departments have reviewed the application and no concerns or issues have been expressed by any of the departments >> and regulations related to the sale and service of alcohol of this board, the ABCC and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. He has uh experience in
the industry. He has been a manager at Bad Martha since 2019 and before that he was food and beverage operator uh at the Buttonwoods Park Zoo. >> Yes, sir. Um, and he's also tip certified. Uh we thank the board for for
uh so swiftly reconsidering uh this after after uh refiling and uh we're happy to answer any questions. Thank you. >> I'm sure you're aware uh that uh while Bad Martha's is uh a uh beloved
establishment for many in the community, uh its licenses and its operation has not been without complaints and problems over the past couple of years. Um, and so this uh turn of events is a bit worrisome and I expect the board may have some questions um about
accountability uh moving forward, but I will uh turn this over to see if there are in fact other questions or comments from other board members. >> I have one who who's actually been the manager recently during this interim period. >> Uh there was yeah the previous manager
of record I believe was a man named Joshua Flanders. Um and he left sometime this fall, I'm told. Uh and Ralph has been acting manager uh who who was the name manager of record in that November application is is my understanding. Um so he's he's been manager of record.
He's been the point person. So um this is just to make it official and be in compliance with >> Okay. Thank you. >> Just maybe a question of Mr. Reno. Have have there been any recent complaints from any of the neighbors uh that you're aware of? Uh, no, Madam Chair, and
Select Board Member Scally, there's been no recent complaints. Um, last year, I believe there was one noise complaints. I had an opportunity uh in 2024 to work with Mr. Younger on uh that year, we had a couple of complaints with regards to noise, and they I can state that they made some
improvements on the interior and some exterior improvements that uh I think uh mitigated some of those some of those issues. >> Thank you. I guess I'm a little surprised to to know that this is not a recent change that you've been acting as manager since
November through this period where there was a lack of responsiveness. And so can I just ask what might account for the issues that that Mr. Renshaw laid out with lack of responsiveness from management and how those are being addressed going forward. I may have misheard, but it sounds like
the ABCC was trying to contact uh a woman named Mia Benadetto uh who is the manager uh or involved more with the Edgartown property, which I I believe is uh if if you had to pick a flagship between between uh the Edgartown
location and Felmouth, I think it would be that was the first one, the Edgartown one. Um, obviously, you know, she didn't have the responsiveness that uh the ABCC wanted to see. Obviously, the town of Felmouth, but she she's not involved with the Falmouth store uh is
is or location is my understanding. And I don't know why her name was on those applications and and obviously it was a mistake because uh you know I I I don't I'm not inside the uh the previously submitted applications though, but that's my understanding. Um, and it's
why we're we're looking to fix it and uh, you know, put Ralph on the uh, on the license. >> That was exactly the issue uh, that ABCC uh, stated and and sent the SLboard office that notice. They were trying to reach out to Mia and uh, and she had erroneously, as I indicated, filled out
that applica, the original application, and they they started this process. >> It's what happens when you don't use a lawyer. No, I'm just kidding. [laughter] >> Thank you to everyone who helped figure that out. Um, are there other uh
concerns or do we have a motion? >> U, could we just hear from uh your manager? [laughter] >> I'm just curious as to how many hours a day do you think you'll be on site and uh how you see the operation going
forward? Oh. Um, good evening everyone. Um, my name is Ralph Younger. I'm the manager at U Bad Martha. Um, I've been there since 2019 and it's been my life. It's hospitality, so I'm there a lot. So, I'm there about 60 70 hours a week.
Um, especially during season. Um, yeah, I think it was just a little breakdown in the communication of our new um, Mia over and everyone kind of changed positions and things got lost with Josh's email, stuff like that. So that was the reason why there was a little
bit of a delay in that situation, but I've been there since 2019. Um, worked with the town through all the mitigation, all the complaints and stuff and really tried to be, you know, the liaison between our neighbors and trying to figure out stuff. So, I want to continue that.
>> That's pretty good background. Thank you. >> Appreciate that. >> Miss Glenn, >> yeah, I'm I'm glad to hear from Mr. Wshaw that there were um that there have been fewer complaints in in uh the recent time. I'm a big supporter of having, you know, fun things to do here
in Falmouth for folks of variety of ages and I think that that bad Martha's offers that. Um I've been there with my kid and he played, you know, some of the long games. Um it's a it's a really nice place uh to go and what I would just wonder is if you have a plan in place
this summer, you know, the season's really ramping up. Um if you have continue or if you have issues with neighbors, do you have a plan in place for how you would manage that? Yeah. So, we I mean we do decibel readings every single day when we have live music. Um we have a new sound mitigation panel
getting put up that's getting uh created by um Sperry Tents. So, that's what we started. Last year we did like a makeshift one, but now we're having a professional one um put in. And we really um you know go across the street, try to engage with the neighbors, listen to you know turn down the volumes if
there's any requests like that. Um, so we've been doing what we can do. >> And not not to interrupt, but I I believe I'll speak into the microphone. Um, last time my office hasn't been involved um since I believe we got the farmer winery license, which is about
2023. Um, but last time uh the manager's uh contact information was shared to anybody that uh any neighbors that requested it. And I'm I'm sure that Ralph would be willing to do that again uh going forward. >> Thank you. Thank you. Okay, >> I've heard enough. I think I'm ready.
>> You ready to make a motion? >> Oh, boy. I don't have that up in front of me. >> U motion to uh approve the application for a change of manager by Bad Martha's Farmers Brewery LLC at 876 East Famouth Highway East Famouth. >> So moved. Thank you.
>> Second. Second. >> Second. Excellent. With motion to second. Any further discussion hearing? None. All in favor? I >> Good luck. >> Best of luck to you. Yep. >> Okay. Uh, consider and discuss and consider a vote to accept the requested
change to the local initiative program application submitted by Northland Residential Corporation for the housing project located at 809 Sandwich Road. Mr. Wshaw. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to turn this one right over to assistant town manager Johnson Stab. He worked extensively with the Northland Residential Corporation. So, Peter, you
want to walk us through? >> Thank you, Mr. Wshaw. Uh, I know the board is well familiar with this project, but very briefly for the the public's benefit, uh, this, uh, is a property that the town has been working with the developer on for a couple of
years, going back to December of 2024. Um, this board did approve a local initiative program uh, permit for this project. At that time it was proposed as 36 units of rental housing of which 13
were deeed restricted affordable. So notably that was four units in excess of what the 40B statute requires. We were enthusiastic about endorsing that um that proposal. There
was um a later attempt uh to um by the applicant to have a project change and change it from 36 rental units um to a home ownership project um with only nine
units affordable. Uh and the board uh did not endorse that um that requested change to the project on May 4th. The project is back again. The developer has proposed a compromise. He's now back to
uh rental housing. Same number of total units, 36 with a total of 11 affordable units. So, two afford deed restricted affordable units beyond what 40B requires. uh the sta the working group the affordable housing working group
reviewed the proposal and uh and we as a member of that I'm saying we um recommended uh the board's support for this uh amended application and again I know the board is aware of this but for the public's benefit so this is an
example of um housing that is not age restricted uh rental housing is a top priority for the board um in connection with workforce housing. Um, so this is uh, you know, this fits well with the town's, uh, housing needs.
>> Thank you. Um, and I believe we have, uh, someone for the applicant here as well. No. >> No. >> Okay. >> Well, we have uh, Mr. Freeman's letter outlining that it's not, you know, insubstantial change. Uh, I just want to
say in furtherance of what Mr. Johnson Stab was saying it's member of the working group. Uh I I appreciate the flexibility and the uh and the consideration that Northland Residential Corporation has put into this project.
Uh it is a worthwhile project. Uh they're giving us two more uh AMI red u restricted units than we would otherwise u get. Uh and uh and as I said before
with respect to uh uh 21 pheasant lane, uh hopefully the zoning board uh of appeals will take into consideration what I believe is our support for this uh for this project going forward as quickly as possible.
>> Let me turn this to the board and see. Yes, Miss Klein. Yeah. Um I wish that there was someone from the applicant here because I have um I have kind of two questions that I would like to pose to them. Um one would be that I know from some reporting and um the community
that there's been some tensions between the abutters and the um and the developer and that I was curious to hear how those relations had been going if the developer had engaged in some proactive outreach or not. um because I
think it sounded as if a butters were had some real serious concerns that were being dismissed. Um that would be one question I'd like to pose. Another question that I would like to pose is if the developer would be willing to um make some of those units actually um go
down in AMI um and make use of some of the project based vouchers that we have um in Falmouth. We have uh project based vouchers that provide funding from section 8 and those are tied to a unit instead of tied to a person and that's
something that I've seen come up in some recent things that have come across the affordable housing committee's desk and that's a creative way to incorporate some much lower income residents of Falmouth without um cutting into the
bottom line of the developer because those those vouchers for example you and have individuals in the 30 to 50% AMI range um who are competitive as a tenant. So, I'm not sure if any of that has been part of the conversation. >> Mr. Johnson, I we don't have anyone from the applicant here, but you've been part
of those conversations. Is there >> any Well, Mr. Dolly can choose to um speak or not speak to those questions. I would I just wanted to with respect to your second question about um deeply affordable uh units in the 30 to 60% of
AMI. Um interesting question which we could certainly dialogue with the developer about. Um on the first question, we generally with um local initiative program approvals, we we
don't get into a butter issues because those will be addressed by the ZBA. So just as a matter of sort of rather than address issues twice at with two different bodies, um we defer to the ZBA on those issues. >> Thank you. I I would speak in favor of approval
because I think it's still a good project and it's more in line with what our original plan was. You know, as time goes on, costs incur. So, it's not surprising that at this point there would be a request such like this. So, I would say it's okay. I certainly
appreciate that uh the board's concerns were were heard um and that we're at a rental model um and still in excess of uh the minimum number of units and it is those highest AMI uh units that that were sacrificed in this this version. Miss Klein, did you have another
>> just one more important note is that by shifting back to a rental model um Mr. Mr. Johnson, I'm correct in that all of the units uh then count towards the SHI list as opposed to just those that are technically affordable. >> That is correct. And and I should just add as well that if the you know we can
certainly um ask the developer if he would be interested in adjusting the affordable affordability targets and that could be um addressed as an amendment down the road, but I know they're eager to move forward with the permitting process at this point.
>> Okay. Okay. Do we have a motion on this matter? Um, >> I'm happy to make a motion to accept the request to change to the local initiative program application submitted by Northland Residential Corporation for the housing project located at 809
Sandwich Road. >> I'd second that. >> All right, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. And last thing on our business agenda is to discuss and consider a vote
to adopt an artificial intelligence policy. Mr. Reshoff. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I missed the April 13th meeting. I was out of town when this was uh last discussed. Uh Peter led that discussion and Peter's been doing the assistant town manager Johnson Sty has been doing a great amount of research on the topic. I'm
going to turn it over to Peter to kind of walk you through the draft which is included in your packet. Peter. >> Thank you, Mr. Renshaw. Um, following up on the board's prior discussion of an AI policy, what I took away from that meeting was there was a a consensus that
the board wanted to adopt a policy and relatively quickly and not necessarily uh overly complicated. Um there there are some models that other municipalities have adopted and this is a very quickly evolving field and there
certainly may be a need for amending this policy um as the situation evolves. Uh but what we have presented tonight is a a pretty simple model based on the town of Rockland policy that you uh saw previously. Uh it has been reviewed with
town council Mora O'Keefe and um some slight reorganization um and uh buffing up I guess I'd say of the policy and um you know I guess in terms of the we went over this you know I think the first time that you
discussed it but the the general idea here is there are some really important guard rails that we want to establish before staff really um start using an AI policy. Um, and on the flip side, we
really do want to encourage staff to start using um AI because there are some opportunities um to provide better work product and provide more quickly um to to be more productive with our time and
to use it as a force multiplier. Um so you know there are there are a lot of uh a lot of details to be concerned about. We would plan to roll this out with some training some basic training for staff with respect to those guard rails and concerns. Um you know the the basic
tenant is every employee has to be responsible for their work product. That's true 10 years ago. That's true today be it was true before AI. It's true after AI. So, it's a tool, but you can't just blindly use
it and say, "It's done. AI did it. I didn't do it." No. Whoever uses the AI solution to produce a product, that staff member or team uh is going to continue to be responsible for that. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Stop. Um I will
say that I uh remain I think out of uh somewhat out of line with the consensus of the rest of the board as I was at the initial discussion that I would prefer rather than an AI policy to uh simply see a
data privacy policy. I fully concur with the um the intent that we need to ensure that we are protecting sensitive um data. I will say though I would I I my concern
with phrasing it as an AI policy and the way that this is phrased is that I would be surprised if our current HR and finance packages do not actually include AI based functions where we have sensitive data. And so would prefer to
simply see it say that all of this prohibited data um cannot be entered into any software or online tool that has not been approved by um it to kind of take that is it AI or not out of it. Um but I also recognize that I was as I
said uh not in line with the consensus of the remainder of the board on this issue when we discussed it the first time. Uh so I'll I'll open the floor for discussion. >> Mr. Skellyy. Well, um, you know, I was, [clears throat] uh, one of the people who wanted to get a policy up and
running. Uh, and I appreciate the work that's been done on it, but, um, and depending upon how the board decides to proceed, uh, I I think that this is really something that is going to have to be looked at, you know, very closely
going forward. Uh, it's, as Mr. Johnson said, it's evolving, you know, daily. uh but I think it's incumbent upon the town to have a policy uh to limit our potential liability with respect to uh
generative AI. So um it's it's not perfect uh but it's something and I think we should proceed and with the understanding that it's going to be looked at you know going forward. >> Mr. Ram, >> I just would think I think that may be a
good suggestion that you made and maybe there should be a a paragraph added uh to relate to that. I mean, this is probably going to be an evolving policy. >> I'm just Yes. I'm just trying to think how that would um I think that's a
little bit it's it's potentially broader than than AI, but we could consider whether that could whether the two could play together, I guess. >> Um yeah, Mr. Mscali, >> I I do have one question though. Under under oversight and review says all
output generated by AI must be reviewed by a town employee before release. And how how's that going to actually work? is someone else is going to review what someone else is considering putting
out. So, so the I know the the concept there is again that whoever is whichever employee is using the AI solution and then um putting that AI solution out there whether it's to an individual resident or in a public document that
that employee who's using the AI is responsible for the content. So it's not multiple employees, it's an employee >> the employee actually doing it is is going to be satisfac I mean that's going to satisfy that requirement. >> Correct.
>> Basically correct because the employee is putting putting in a prompt right and then there's an an output from the prompt. The employee can't just run with the prompt or or sorry run with the output without proofing it. >> You got to read it and make sure it makes sense.
>> Right. I will say there's also um a growing trend particularly in uh more creative fields to also um well actually in the sciences as well um to uh disclose or essentially acknowledge um when generative AI tools have been used.
So perhaps over it could be I guess under uh oversight and review um but one possibility but would be to add a point um that uh use of generative AI tools must be acknowledged or disclosed. So,
you know, if a document goes out um that an employee has used generative AI to help write, there would be a line at the bottom, you know, note this document was generated with uh chat GPT used as, you
know, a an editor for the piece or whatever it is, right? So, that there would be some acknowledgement of that. you know just to uh to make a real life comparison uh in the legal profession uh it is getting to a point where u it may be
considered legal malpractice not to use AI uh going going forward. So u you know certainly it's here we've got to deal with it. It's it's it's very important uh that that we take take a look at this. So,
>> Miss Klein, >> it's it's funny, Dr. Goldstone, that you mentioned uh disclosure because I felt that that was something that should be included. Um, as someone as I'm consuming and reading things, I do appreciate when I'm when I'm made informed that that content was created
with the assistance of generative AI tools. And so I agree that some sort of disclosure um would be important because you know we have to recognize that there are some members of the public who are incredibly skeptical and very very
concerned about um about artificial intelligence and its adoption into mainstream society. And I think in in in recognition of those individuals who are concerned about that and in the in the sake of transparency that a disclosure
would be something that would not take a lot of time um and and could help make the public feel that they understood better where did this information come from um and and who put it together for my you know consumption. Um so I thought
that that was a a note. I also appreciated um it was in it wasn't what was the other let's see what town Brooklyn I appreciated they had this chart um the role and then the responsibility um and I thought that
that was a nice clarification of whose job is what um because I think sometimes you can get to a point where it's it's no one's real fault because it was kind of like the AI or was it me and so I think something just for clarity Um, I
think that that would be good to consider. And then my last point that I wanted to make is as a community that's very very concerned about climate change, climate change, it would be remiss not to mention that we do know even though we sometimes keep this knowledge kind of in separate parts of our brain, right? That um using
artificial intelligence is consuming vast amounts of resources. And so I would really encourage us to consider thoughtful applications. Um, I tell my students, you know, you used generative AI to like make a video of a cat, you know, climbing on a rainbow and you put
some carbon dioxide into the air, right? And so to think about what uses of it are worth that resource consumption and it's very very hard to keep that in mind because those resources are not being consumed in a way that we can see, >> right? This information is being
generated over there elsewhere. And so, not that I'm, you know, I think that adoption of generative AI can help efficiency and workflows in town hall. Um, and I I just want us to be cautious and and really be careful about how we're using in it.
>> Y, thank you, Mr. Reid. >> Thanks. Um, I agree uh conceptually with what you're saying, Dr. Goldstone, regarding prohibited data and having that be more HR policy than not, although I like where we're heading in this. Uh, my question is for Mr. Johnson
stabbed the prohibited uses generative AI may not be used for the following purposes entering prohibited data into an AI query which I agree with. Uh seeking legal or medical advice or personal use. I didn't see that in either of the others. Um, and I'm
wondering if this is related to unconstrained tools or constrained tools that the um town has a contractual relationship with the software vendor. Um, and and any
examples that you might have where a town employee would be using a constrained software for medical or advice or person. I'm looking for a reason for this. This seems a little out of right left field
beyond the entering prohibited data into AI query. >> I'm going to refer this one to town council who generated those. >> Okay, roger that. Thank you. >> So, the legal advice actually is was in the original um propos the was in the
original policy that we looked at from the town of Rockland. We just I just moved it. Okay. it was in prohibited data that you couldn't input legal advice. Um, and I moved it from prohibited data to a prohibited
use. Um, and then added medical advice because asking AI for legal and medical advice, um, to me, uh, they just make sense that they're in the same bucket. We really
don't want any of our employees using AI to circumvent professional advice like that. Um I think that that has applicability. The medical advice for for example has
applicability for some of the um summer camps or the recreation programs. Um, I think it is important to call 911 instead of asking AI if it's okay if this bone is popping out. And also, um,
I've had people come to me already and say, I just wanted to check with you, but I looked this up on AI and is this legal advice right? And I would like for that to not happen as much as it already has happened. Um, so I hope that and
then personal use, it really does overlap with our existing um technology use uh um policy, but it does bear repeating
um that you shouldn't be using chat GPT uh during working hours for your own personal use. >> Gotcha. Thank you for that clarification because that was the next one which is is are we just delineating work hours
from personal hours. So thank you. >> So I think uh well I guess I should ask the board this idea of disclosure uh that Miss Klein uh proposed. Is that something that that we would be interested in including? I personally um
think that would be a good addition to the policy. >> Madam Chair, if I could just comment on that briefly. This is um that's something that that I had heard and was sort of looking for in some of the other sample policies. Um at a management
conference that I was at last week u there was a workshop on AI and I was interested to hear that the presenter said that there the private sector was moving away from disclosing use of AI because it was becoming so ubiquitous.
I'm not suggesting that's the final answer. May not be the right answer for public sector, but I just wanted to throw that out. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Brown. And then, Miss Klein, >> I wonder if it'll actually just make people more skeptical about the work product.
>> That might be the point. >> Yeah, it's true. But >> Miss Glenn, I would simply argue that the private sector and town governance have different transparency responsibilities to the public. >> Okay. Yeah.
Um what I'm going to suggest um not to belabor this point and I take the point that it's important that we have um something on record shortly, but we've provided a lot of um feedback here. Um
and what I'd like to propose is uh that we have another draft of this that will show up on the next consent agenda. um not for further discussion assuming that that everything um looks like uh the looks reflective of our discussion here
tonight which I think is a consensus well let's see is it consensus on uh disclosure and um perhaps a broadening uh with prohibited data to include uh must not be entered into any AI prompt
um online tool or software system not approved by without approval from it from information system. >> Can we get a little bit more feedback from staff managers about the disclosure statement? >> Sure. >> Any reason to push back against that?
>> So, I I don't have a strong view of it. I guess the um the the use that maybe has some tradeoffs. Um we we have a lot of engagement with the public. A lot of it
is in writing and um one of the things that you know that I'm hearing other managers use AI for um is simply crafting a better email message. You know, because you can if once you get comfortable with it, you can put in the
prompts of, you know, all of the concerns, all of the, you know, um, you know, the tone that you're looking for and the points that you want to hit and the, um, the perspective of, you know, write, you know, the prompt can be as specific as write this as a
Massachusetts municipal manager. um you know responding to this matter you know respectfully, firmly or whatever you know. So, you know, we you could put on the end of that bottom of that email message, you know, it maybe it becomes part of a standard signature that some
email messages are crafted with the um assistance of AI. You know, does that cause people to look at it differently? Maybe it does. Is that good, bad? I'm I'm not sure. >> I will say that exact example is one of
the reasons that I lean away from having an AI policy because it is so difficult to even define. Do you need to have that there if you simply used an autofill feature which is AI, right? AI based features are so um pervasive um at this point that it's almost impossible to
know when you are using something that is AI powered unless you literally have opened up um you know chat GBT or Gemini or Claude or take your pick and entered something in there and that's far from the the full extent of AI. Um but
perhaps as a compromise uh it could be something like policies and documents um need to disclose um the the use of AI but we'll say that people's texting and emailing is is their their own would
that work for for folks I'm seeing one nod or is this something we want to consider further like don't want to belabor Although I go ahead you please. >> No. Although I think uh as I said I
think we've got to get something on uh on on on the policy but I agree. I think maybe we should uh you know let staff take a a further look at maybe some some language with respect to disclosure or uh me members if they have
any suggestions uh can maybe email them Mr. Johnson's job and um you can consider them and we can discuss it at our [snorts] next meeting or a future meeting. >> You know, I think that uh Peter's suggestion that maybe it's just part of the signature of all town emails and say
that uh town of Felmouth uses generative AI in assistance of production of documents and you know just make it that it it may be used and it it's not always used in everything. just give it that disclaimer without saying this document
was produced by AI just a general signature >> that's enough of a disclosure I think but >> Mr. >> does that sound legit >> yeah it's a blanket statement that often we see with uh um sensitive data that's
at the end of emails but um I'm leaning now more towards Dr. Goldstone because I kind of humorously I wish we could go back to the 90s when the internet was starting to be used and internet policies where [clears throat] they were then versus where they are in today's
world. They're completely different and I'm wondering if we're you know recreating the same wheel. I know we want to get it we want to add in some protections for the town. I know that we want to get in some uses, but I mean it's
it's in our newspapers online. Everything's AI. Everything's a thing. So, anyways, I appreciate where we got and I think yeah, going to the next level is a is a good step. Okay, Miss Klein, did you have another >> Just to recognize that I'm one of five,
so I also realize that [laughter] >> I think I think we've got folks in in different places on this, which I think is uh >> very representative of the town of Felmouth and the country and the world at this point with AI and and Mr. to
read to your point. Um, one cautionary tale in town government that is often the butt of jokes in the biosciences is um that the uh city of Cambridge at one point inadvertently almost banned sex by trying to ban uh I can't remember now if
it was uh it was a form of genetic engineering that was of particular concern that was really relevant to bacteria being researched in uh the biotech companies in Cambridge. and someone came to their I think it's town council and pointed out that if they actually passed that they would um
>> they would aband um uh yeah so okay >> um so sometimes there are unintended consequences and um I think we just we want to be wary of that but I I think uh certainly with the idea that we'll be coming back to this so um we'll get another draft on the agenda for the next
meeting um >> consent >> and plan for that to be on consent and if folks have additional thoughts to send uh please do so. Okay, we are definitely behind but we got a little bit of a late start. Uh select board reports
had a wonderful week. >> All right, Mr. Reid, >> perhaps it's something I should have said when nominated before, but I do appreciate the nomination. I will do uh the best in my capacity to be your vice chair for this select board. I wish I
had another year of experience being a board member under my belt. I also wish that I uh you know had another year of experience being [laughter] a dad under my belt. >> You're going to wish that for a long time. So, >> but you have my utmost commitment and uh
I do appreciate the unanimous vote, but um I did have reservations beforehand and um but I you have my full commitment. It's not necessarily a full report, but but >> I I appreciate that. And uh again, I think with uh a board uh with all five
members with full-time jobs, uh we need to be very conscious of uh how we use our time and make sure that we're using our time to to best affect um few quick reports from me. I uh got to take uh part, thank you, Mr. Redshaw in a
tabletop emergency um I don't even know what emergency planning um exercise where we kind of role played our way through a potential emergency situation uh working with uh fire, police, human services, um uh steamship authority, uh
multiple members of uh representatives of other nonprofits, Americanore, I'm not even sure who else was in the room. It was a large group and it was a really uh great exercise to to really get a sense of um how these things work. um and how how we get prepared for uh
events that we hope never happen. Um >> where was that? >> Uh that was at the EOC >> EOC at the fire headquarters and we'll do more of those and involve more select board members. I think it's important that you have to exercise the plan to know kind of where your where your weaknesses are. So that would be important. >> Other board members will be pleased to
know that um communication, emergency management and communication with the community was a large part of of the the exercise. Certainly. Um the uh I attended the beach committee last beach committee meeting and um things are in ramp up. I think it would
be excellent if we could get an update um from uh our beach superintendent about our kind of preseason, early season activities, where we are and how things are shaping up for this season. Um and I believe she said she was available at the next uh on on June 8th.
Um but I think that would be uh beneficial for the the whole board to to hear how things are going this year. And um did just want to share at the request of the DEIB committee um some feedback about the way that um our previous uh
last discussion uh when they were present went. Um they um they did not feel that uh their work was fully respected by the board. uh the memo that they had provided um not not really getting mentioned and so I think
just a reminder to all of us um that our committees are doing an immense amount of volunteer work um and that that we need to be mindful um of that work that they are providing the expertise that they provide and the advice that they
they do provide us. So um yes, Miss Klein um just to share that Mr. Reed and I are going to be attending a training next not this Friday but next Friday June 12th um which is hosted up in Devon Mass and that's for newly
elected um select board members and so it's a networking opportunity but also an overview of you know procure procurement law open meeting law and just reinforcement of some of the the fundamentals so we'll be taking advantage of that opportunity. I I hope it goes forward because I think that
it's been cancelled once or twice if I remember correctly. So keep keep watching your emails. Um I'll uh >> there would have been an announcement but u next meeting for a second
there would have been an announcement but on June 9th there will be a uh a housing forum that the Fmouth Housing Partnership is uh is is presenting in the select boardroom from 9 until 10:30. >> Excellent >> tough timing.
>> Yeah, >> it is indeed. Um, okay. Any other reports from members? Uh, future agenda items? Um, and do you want to >> I did I I did uh Thank you, Dr.
Goldstone. So, I I wanted to uh it's been asked in the in the past about training, cyber security training and iPad training. Um, we have lined that up tentatively. Um, both the IT director and Diane Davidson in your office is available next uh Monday, June 8th. Um I
don't know what your availability is um but I just wanted to offer that up. I'd like to get that completed particularly the cyber security training um because there are some additional threats that that environment um has has kind of escalated recently. >> So we're thinking of like an hour before
>> I think I think that'd be appropriate. I think uh yeah if we if we could plan on uh meeting at uh at 5:30 I think that'd be give us enough time. the uh cyber security presentation that Don Lewis the IT director would provide is about 20 25 minutes and then depending on questions and with the and the iPad training is
more about the functionality of the platform um the full use of the platform that Diane can walk walk us through making annotations that only the select board member can see that sort of thing there's a lot of functionality that's not being leveraged I think with the new platform okay
>> um I believe we had slated uh for that next meeting as Well, uh, our deep dive on the tax ramifications of, um, capital borrowing and, uh, overrides and and residential exemptions. Is that still
feasible for [laughter] >> Okay. Um, and I think that will not be, uh, well, obviously it will not be a complete workshop uh, setting because we do also have now two hearings uh for that meeting. And um I'm hoping that we
can also do some longer range agenda planning through that meeting. I would like to to ask um that all boards come with your lists of top priorities uh for the coming 6 to 12 months in terms of um major uh issues that you would like to
see on the agenda. And my hope is that we can do a a bit of a a quick prioritizing exercise during that meeting so that we can then come back with a proposal for um workshops and week. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> For next week to to get those ideas on the table um and and start to do some
prioritizing. >> Yes. >> Two agenda requests. One financially I'd like to uh get on the table a what the plan is for 2028 balancing the budget. Um because there's I think the ramifications
of compounding efforts if we can nip this in the bud. So a specific discussion about the 2028 budget would be good. Um the other one is um Jed waited very patiently the other night to go at the very end about the um uh local
comprehensive plan. Um I'm not one for hierarchy but it seems that the select board is the governing body planning board and others are next step down or across and then others yet the local comprehensive plan seems inverted that
that is the driver of our strategy. So, I'm just wondering if we can have a local comprehensive plan and uh select board strategic planning discussion to understand how the two work together and what
supersedes the other one. I I think that would be a great topic for a joint meeting with the planning board um who I believe holds uh primary responsibility for the local comprehensive plan with strong participation from the select board per our charter and then the select board is
the strategic plan is our primary. So I think that's a a really good conversation for us to have with >> and which one feeds into which so thank you. >> Excellent. So yeah, so keep those other um ideas um for for big agenda items um that you anticipate. Obviously, it's not
ruling anything out going forward, but to try to get a bit more of a plan um on things. Um if there's nothing else, I would entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. [laughter] >> Everybody move. >> All in favor? >> I.
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