--------- Yep. Best behavior. Good afternoon. Today is Tuesday, October 7th, 2025. The time is about 3:51 and I will now call the policy committee meeting to order. Miss Kenny, is there a quorum present? Yes, there is.
All right. Thank you. Uh, please stand for the pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. All right. So, we've got a few different uh policies on our agenda for today. Um, is there a motion to approve the agenda? So, move.
Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thank you. Any discussion? Discussion. Discussion. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. All right. Motion passes. Uh,
we will move on to review of policies. So, these are policies that are being reviewed as part of our three-year review cycle. So we will look at the entire policy. So is there a motion to approve sending policy 101 legal status of the school
district uh with no changes to the school board? So moved. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Any discussion on policy 101, legal status of the school board? Any discussion?
Any discussion? Okay. Hearing none. Um, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. All right. Motion passes. Is there a motion to approve sending policy 103 complaints, students,
employees, parents, and other persons with no changes to the school board? So moved. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. All right. Um discussion. Discussion. Discussion.
Okay. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Um, just as a reference. Oh, motion passes. Just as a reference, both of these were last uh adopted or looked at in May of 2022. Right. So, they're
just it's it's been three just a little bit over three years. Um, is there a motion to approve sending policy 201 legal status of the school district with no changes to the school board? So moved. Thank you. Is there a second?
Second. Thank you. Discussion. Yes. Yes. Uh, okay. I for on page two, it's um 5 E4 provide services to promote the health
of the pupils. I I guess I just want some clarification a little bit on that. From what I'm understanding, we're are we expanding our mental health and our mental health throughout the schools? Um what I've been hearing
especially like tellaalth to all the bu buildings. So that's what I've been hearing. So this is for the pupils. Yeah, the pupils. And so I I guess and I'm not sure what to do about this, but I because it's expand it's it it sounds
like it's expanding. I just don't know. I can't I unless I know specifically what that means define health. I don't think I can um vote for this. I'm not sure what to do with it. But you know like is it teleaalth services, mental health
services, is it you know it can go on and on. I think it could be viewed as many different ways. I mean, you can go as far as saying that it's just having a nurse in the building as well. Yeah. So, I
Yeah, I I just uh I like I said, I'm not sure what to do with them about it. I for myself, I'd really like it to find. Okay. So, I don't know how I'm going to go about that, but So, it was last adopted in December of
20 December 5th of 2022. Yeah. Um there are some pieces there on Minnesota state statutes. Y uh perhaps um I'm just looking perhaps it would fall under statute 123b.49
which is extracurricular activities that could be viewed as the health of the student as well. Uh I I just guess because we seem to be moving really really into the mental health and you know like parents are concerned you know what are the mental
health services especially if if uh I've heard too like the clinic some of them now uh you know 12 years old they they won't release the um records to the parents and I know my my daughter a few
years ago had that problem and uh so I for me I I can't go along with it unless Unless it's it's defined a little bit more, but I'm not sure about this. Any further discussion? So, just to clarify, this
policy hasn't changed. The statute hasn't changed. No. No, there's been no changes. This has not been brought forth by MSBA for uh revision. This is simply in the cycle of review for us.
So, I just did a quick um search with AI um nursing services, emergency and chronic condition management, physical activity and nutrition, health education, positive relationships, positive
climates and school community partnerships could be defined as promoting the health of its pupils. Any further discussion? Final call. All right. Hearing none. All those in favor of sending policy 201 legal status
of the school board. Uh with no changes to the school board uh is uh signify by saying I I opposed. No. All right. Motion passes. What's that? two four six to one believe is that's the correct counting that I have. All
right. Yep. Um is there a motion to approve sending policy 202 schoolboard officers uh with no changes to the school board? So moved. All right. Is there a second?
Second. Thank you. Uh discussion discussion discussion this just simply outlines the different roles um of chair vice chair superintendent clerk uh treasurer
and that's it and was last adopted December 5th of 2022. No revisions from MSBA since then. Um just simply up for review. Any further discussion,
right? Hearing none. All those in favor of sending policy 202 schoolboard officers to the school board signify by saying I. I. Opposed. All right. Motion passes. Is there a motion to approve sending
policy 211, criminal or civil action against the school district, schoolboard member, employee, or student with no changes to the school board? So moved. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thanks. Uh discussion.
Once again, no changes from MSBA. It's in review by us. last looked at April 25th, 2022. It doesn't appear to be any statute changes or cross reference changes.
Any further discussion? All right. Hearing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. All right. Motion passes. We are still Yep. Is there a motion to approve sending policy 212 school board
member development with no changes to the school board? So moved. All right. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thank you. Discussion. These are the kind of policies I like. One page front.
Uh last approved December 5th, 2022. No changes from MSBA. Minnesota statutes have not changed and cross references have not changed. Any further discussion?
Any further discussion? All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Is there a motion to approve sending policy 214 travel by schoolboard members
with no changes to the school board? So moved. All right. Thank you. And I will second that one. Um discussion. This one was goes back to 2010. Okay, that's what it says. So last adoption on this one was October 8th of
2010. Um so it must have been missed in some of our pieces. Um but there has not popped up through MSBA which means there have been no statute changes and no cross reference changes.
Any further discussion? Any further discussion? All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. All right, motion passes. And it appears
Oh, nope. I take that back. There's 102422. Yeah. So, that's that's part of this one. So, I'm Yeah. Oh, because the uh the allowances on the next page go with it. Yeah.
All right. So, that was I I take that back. It was not 2010. That was uh October 24th of 2022. All right. That's all I've done. Okay. Um we are still in review. So is
there a motion to approve sending policy 506 student discipline with no changes to the school board? Some moved. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thank you. Discussion. Yes.
Okay. Yeah. Um on page two. Yeah. Uh under three def three a it's still I'd like mental health defined but number page six. Page six.
Uh it's under 7H. It says to be aware of and comply with federal, state, and local laws. Uh, as I did before, I'd like to put forth a resolution to add that federal law supersedes state and local laws.
So, you want to add an amend you want an amendment, not a resolution. Oh, did I say resolution? Yeah, I meant amendment. Okay. Thank you. So there's uh your amendment is to for it to say uh on page six, it
would be section seven uh h to be aware of and comply with federal, state, and local laws. And what is the exact I said federal laws supersede state and local laws. federal and then
All right. Semicolon federal laws supersede state and local laws. Yes. All right. So, there's an amendment motion on the floor. Uh, is there a second? Is there a second? Is there a second?
Okay. Motion fails due to no second. We return to the previous uh there is a motion and a second for sending the policy 506 to the school board with no changes. And we are still in discussion. So second call for discussion
and final discussion. Okay. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. No. All right. Motion passes 6 to one. We now move on to Oh, is this still a review?
Yep. 7:22 is still review. So, is there a motion to approve sending policy 722 public data and data subject requests with no changes to the school board? I'll make a motion. All right. Thank you. Is there a second? I'll second.
Okay. Thank you. discussion disc. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you. Uh page two, that's 3E. Uh this is under definitions and it says I've got a couple things here. uh individual it for defining individual
and it goes on I don't know if you want me to read it or not but I think it goes way beyond definition because uh after the well I'll read it individual means a natural person in the case of a minor or an incapacitated person is defined in
Minnesota statute 7524.5-102 subdivision 6 individual includes a parent or guardian or an individual acting as a parent or guardian in the absence of a parent or guardian and then ex except that the responsible authority then it goes into the minor requesting
that the parent bey be denied access to his or her uh school records and I did ask uh in an email because I didn't usually and I you and I get together and talk about it uh I did ask in the email does um does that include emotional
distress or harm and you mentioned it is according to five policy 550 15. So, I do have a problem with that because uh unless we can clearly uh and precise precisely define emotional harm, uh I'm having a problem with that and I don't
think I can vote for it. Uh because it's very subjective and uh it leaves a door wide open to I think dismantling of parental involvement and parental rights responsibilities. So, that's the problem I'm having with that one.
just eliminate that last part. Uh, however, there's another section here. Yeah. On page can I can I just address that first piece first? So, because that was asked of me in an email about the Yes, I we sent that off to
NSBA for some pieces. Um so the question was in determining to withhold data does the responsible authority take into consider consideration emotional harm. The response that we received from uh the attorney at MSBA was the responsible authority determines the factors to be
considered within the best interest in quotes. All right. One might imagine that emotional harm may be among the factors. Okay. So that was sorry I should have probably read that. That was the what the information that came back from uh uh legal at MSBA said
around that. So send it to all the board members. That went to all board members. Yes. Not board members but policy. No, it did not go to this committee. And I I guess when I asked you that question, I was I should refer to it because usually you and I get together and I ask question. So Okay. So they didn't see it ahead of
time. Okay. Um so then if we look on page six six it talks about private or confidential data on an individual shall not be collected, stored, used or disseminated except as provided in Minnesota statute
section 13 uh.05 subdivision 4. So I I did look that up and uh actually got a copy of that. One of the things I was concerned about that and it's law so it's but it says p this is
the uh one 13.05 05 duties. Uh private or confidential data being may be used and disseminated to individuals or entities subsequent to the collection of the data when the responsible authority maintaining the data data has requested approval for a new or different use or
dissemination of the data and that request has been specifically approved by the commissioner as necessary to curate a function assigned by the law. So I I was asking about the different ter terms there and I guess um
what I'm concerned about is is that they have uh the if a parent, you know, if the child takes a whatever it is, some kind of survey or whatever and it's it's um sent to wherever and it
Um um parents know that it's it's for a you know a certain uh certain intended for a certain purpose but later according to this it can be used for a different purpose and that
I'm having a trouble with that because if if I were a parent child I think I'd be very careful kind of data I'd let the school you know collect because a lot of times it's it's about the social and emotional and um the one reason I'm
really concerned about this is I had a parent and I I know we resolved this I think it was about a year ago two years ago uh that it was on on a snow day I think so it's been a couple years but they called and said uh why is my student given this data or given this
survey and they sent the survey to to me and it was like some of the questions which are teachers be allowed to carry guns at school should the US assass assassinate suspected terrorists in foreign countries and do we support the and it just kept going on and on asking about these really personal questions
and the parents said what to me what uh what is this being used for? So, I'm a little concerned when data goes off, you know, the parent understands this is for this situation or whatever this uh this situation w within the I don't know what
the commissioner of Minnesota uh education wants it for. But then with this, it can be changed, you know, and it says uh where is that? because it said it can be it private or confidential data may be
used and disseminated to individuals or entities and I wanted to know who these individuals or entities were but according to your response it must have been from the attorney there the state doesn't define that um so individuals or entities subsequent
to the collection of the data when the responsible authority maintaining the data has requested approval for a new or different use or dissemination So my problem is that the what the parent may think is the intended purpose
uh according to law here they can change it. So I guess I'm having a problem with that one even though it is law. I don't think it's I think government may be overstepping their authority. Uh to me it's it's like data is this data mining? You know we talk about a data mining
with ESG scores environmental social or governance. uh they say I've even heard that ESG scores may take the place of credit scores. So I have a little problem with data going out that that can be used for
a different purpose. You know uh I guess my paranoid here is to find paranoid I guess is to find you know is it to find out whose uh whose family or whatever's uh you know political meaning they are or political
environment or social spectrum. To me it's collecting it's when you know I think uh we have to be very careful because um that and that parent said it perfectly. She said what is what what what where is this going? I
said that's a good question. And uh so you know some of these things they're when they take these they're permanent. So I even though this is law I'm having a problem with that. So Any further discussion? So to answer
your one question um you asked about individuals or entities and who were they? Uh so the re the reply that came back from legal was the statute does not define individuals or entities if a state law allows a state agency or a
governmental body may be granted access. Doesn't say shall. It says may. Yes. Um, and it says, "A similar approach applies to federal law. Review of model policy 515 and its exceptions to parental consent provides an illustration of the types of laws that
exist regarding access to private information to individuals or entities." Okay. So, I realize that this is a law, but yet I I still think this opens the door for uh the government to overstep their
bounds. So, That's my concern. Um, final call for discussion. All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. No.
Right. Motion passes 6 to one. All right. We move on to revision of policies. So, is there a motion to approve sending revisions to policy 8003.4 to the school board? So, moved.
Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Discussion. So, I will just say by giving this a little bit of a background. Um, this currently is a policy that we have. It is currently policy 803.4.
All right. Um, Mr. Birding who could not we be with us this evening went through this made a lot of changes that he wanted to see in this policy. It was brought before this group. This group decided we wanted to send that to legal to have them go through it and
make sure they went through it and everything that you see in red including the redactions are what they came up with. So they added quite a bit. You can see uh they took out a few things here and there um changed some of the
language and then added some legal references uh from like 1992 and two from uh 2005. They then said that they as our legal council were comfortable with this along
with a number change from 803.4 4 to 625 to better match uh the the uh subcategory that it would fall in. Right. Any further discussion? No, I was just going to say I I think it
was a really good idea to send it back to legal because I think they made some changes that were necessary. Any further discussion? All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. All right. Motion passes. There
are no new policies for us to look at. Our next meeting is November 4th, 2025 at 3:45 p.m. here in our boardroom. Uh there are no more items to discuss. Is there a motion to adjourn the meeting?
So move. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. All those in favor? Oh, I should say discussion, discussion, discussion. All right. All those in favor uh signify by saying I I opposed.
All right. We are ajourned. Part: 2
Yep. Best behavior. >> Good afternoon. Today is Tuesday, October 7th, 2025. The time is about >> 3:51, and I will now call the policy committee meeting to order. Miss Kenny, is there a quorum present? >> Yes, there is.
>> All right. Thank you. Uh, please stand for the pledge. >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> All right. So, we've got a few different uh policies on our agenda for today. Um, is there a motion to approve the agenda? >> So, move.
>> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Any discussion? Discussion. Discussion. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. All right. Motion passes. Uh,
we will move on to review of policies. So, these are policies that are being reviewed as part of our three-year review cycle. So we will look at the entire policy. So is there a motion to approve sending policy 101 legal status of the school
district uh with no changes to the school board? >> So moved. >> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Any discussion on policy 101, legal status of the school board? Any discussion?
Any discussion? Okay. Hearing none. Um, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> All right. Motion passes. Is there a motion to approve sending policy 103 complaints, students,
employees, parents, and other persons with no changes to the school board? >> So moved. >> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> All right. Um discussion. Discussion. Discussion.
Okay. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Um, just as a reference. Oh, motion passes. Just as a reference, both of these were last uh adopted or looked at in May of 2022. Right. So, they're
just it's it's been three just a little bit over three years. Um, is there a motion to approve sending policy 201 legal status of the school district with no changes to the school board? >> So moved. >> Thank you. Is there a second?
>> Second. >> Thank you. Discussion. >> Yes. >> Yes. Uh, okay. I for on page two, it's um 54 checkout provide services to promote the
health of the pupils. I I guess I just want some clarification a little bit on that. From what I'm understanding, we're are we expanding our mental health and our mental health throughout the schools? >> Um >> what I've been hearing
especially like tellaalth to all the bu buildings. >> So >> that's what I've been hearing. >> So this is for the pupils. >> Yeah, the pupils. And so I I guess and I'm not sure what to do about this, but I because it's expand it's it it sounds
like it's expanding. I just don't know. I can't I unless I know specifically what that means define health. I don't think I can um vote for this. I'm not sure what to do with it. But you know like is it teleaalth services, mental health
services, is it you know it can go on and on. >> I think it could be viewed as many different ways. I mean, you can even go as far as saying that it's just having a nurse in the building as well. >> Yeah. >> So, >> I
Yeah, I I just uh I like I said, I'm not sure what to do with them about it. I for myself, I'd really like it to find. >> Okay. So, >> I don't know how I'm going to go about that, but >> So, it was last adopted in December of
20 December 5th of 2022. >> Yeah. Um there are some pieces there on Minnesota state statutes. >> Y >> uh perhaps um I'm just looking perhaps it would fall under statute 123b.49
which is extracurricular activities that could be viewed as the health of the student as well. Uh I >> I just guess because we seem to be moving really really into the mental health and you know like parents are concerned you know what are the mental
health services especially if if uh I've heard too like the clinic some of them now uh you know 12 years old they they won't release the um records to the parents and I know my my daughter a few
years ago had that problem and uh so I for me I I can't go along with it unless Unless it's it's defined a little bit more, but I'm not sure about this. >> Any further discussion?
>> So, just to clarify, this policy hasn't changed. The statute hasn't changed. >> No. No, there's been no changes. This has not been brought forth by MSBA for uh revision. This is simply in the cycle of review for us.
So, I just did a quick search with AI um nursing services, emergency and chronic condition management, uh physical activity and nutrition, health education,
um positive relationships, positive climates, school community partnerships could be defined as promoting the health of its peoples. Any further discussion? Final call. All right. Hearing none. All those in
favor of sending policy 201 legal status of the school board. Uh with no changes to the school board uh is uh signify by saying I >> I >> opposed. >> No. >> All right. Motion passes. What's that? two four six to one believe is that's
the correct counting that I have. All right. Y >> um is there a motion to approve sending policy 202 schoolboard officers uh with no changes to the school board? >> So moved.
>> All right. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Uh discussion discussion discussion this just simply outlines the different roles um of chair vice chair
superintendent clerk uh treasurer and that's it and was last adopted December 5th of 2022. No revisions from MSBA since then. Um just simply up for review.
Any further discussion, right? Hearing none. All those in favor of sending policy 202 schoolboard officers to the school board signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. All right. Motion passes.
Is there a motion to approve sending policy 211, criminal or civil action against the school district, schoolboard member, employee, or student with no changes to the school board? >> So moved. >> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second.
>> Thanks. Uh discussion. Once again, no changes from MSBA. It's in review by us. last looked at April 25th, 2022. It doesn't appear to be any statute changes or cross reference changes.
Any further discussion? All right. Hearing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> All right. Motion passes. >> We are still Yep. Is there a motion to approve sending policy 212 school board
member development with no changes to the school board? >> So moved. >> All right. Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Discussion. These are the kind of policies I like. One page front.
Uh last approved December 5th, 2022. No changes from MSBA. Minnesota statutes have not changed and cross references have not changed. Any further discussion?
Any further discussion? All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Opposed. >> Motion passes. Is there a motion to approve sending policy 214 travel by schoolboard members
with no changes to the school board? >> So moved. >> All right. Thank you. And I will second that one. Um discussion. >> This one was goes back to 2010. >> Okay, that's what it says. So last adoption on this one was October 8th of
2010. Um so it must have been missed in some of our pieces. Um but there has not popped up through MSBA which means there have been no statute changes and no cross reference changes.
Any further discussion? Any further discussion? >> All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I >> opposed. >> All right, motion passes. And it appears
Oh, nope. I take that back. There's >> 102422. >> Yeah. So, that's that's part of this one. >> So, I'm Yeah. Oh, because the uh the allowances on the next page go with it. >> Yep.
>> All right. So, that was I I take that back. It was not 2010. It was uh October 24th of 2022. All right. >> That's how often we >> Okay. Um we are still in review. So is
there a motion to approve sending policy 506 student discipline with no changes to the school board? >> Some moved. >> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Discussion. Yes.
>> Okay. Yeah. Um on page two. Yeah. Uh under three def 3 a it's still I'd like mental health defined but number page six. Uh it's under 7H.
It says to be aware of and comply with federal, state, and local laws. Uh, as I did before, I'd like to put forth a resolution to add that federal law supersedes state and local laws. >> So, you want to add an amend you want an amendment, not a resolution.
>> Oh, did I say resolution? Yeah, I meant amendment. >> Okay. >> Thank you. So there's uh your amendment is to for it to say uh on page six, it would be section seven
uh h >> to be aware of and comply with federal, state, and local laws. And what is the exact >> I said federal laws supersede state and local laws. federal and then >> All right. semicolon federal laws
supersede state and local laws. >> Yes. >> All right. So, there's an amendment motion on the floor. Uh, is there a second? Is there a second? Is there a second? Okay. Motion fails due to no second.
We return to the previous uh there is a motion and a second for sending the policy 506 to the school board with no changes. And we are still in discussion. So second call for discussion and final discussion. Okay. Hearing none. All those in favor
signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. No. >> All right. Motion passes 6 to one. We now move on to Oh, is this still a review? >> Yep. 7:22 is still review. So, is there
a motion to approve sending policy 722 public data and data subject requests with no changes to the school board? >> I'll make a motion. >> All right. Thank you. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Okay. Thank you. discussion
>> disc. Oh, okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh page two, that's 3E. Uh this is under definitions and it says I've got a couple things here. uh individual it for defining individual
and it goes on I don't know if you want me to read it or not but I think it goes way beyond definition because uh after the I'll read it individual means a natural person in the case of a minor or an incapacitated person is defined in
Minnesota statute 7524.5-102 subdivision 6 individual includes a parent or guardian or an individual acting as a parent or guardian in the absence of the parent or guardian and then except that the responsible authority then it goes into the minor requesting that the parent bey be denied
access to his or her uh school records and I did ask uh in an email because I didn't usually and I you and I get together and talk about it uh I did ask in the email um does that include emotional distress or harm and you
mentioned it is according to five policy 550 15. So, I do have a problem with that because uh unless we can clearly uh and precise precisely define emotional harm, uh I'm having a problem with that and I don't think I can vote for it. Uh
because it's very subjective and uh it leaves a door wide open to I think dismantling of parental involvement and parental rights responsibilities. So, that's the problem I'm having with that one. just eliminate that last part. Uh,
however, there's another section here. >> Yeah. On page, >> can I can I just address that first piece first? So, because that was asked >> of me in an email >> uh about the Yes, I we sent that off to NSBA for some pieces. Um so the question
was in determining to withhold data does the responsible authority take into consider consideration emotional harm. The response that we received from uh the attorney at MSBA was the responsible authority determines the factors to be considered within the best interest in
quotes. All right. One might imagine that emotional harm may be among the factors. >> Okay. So that was >> sorry I should have probably read that. That was the what the information that came back from uh uh legal at MSBA said around that. So
>> send it to all the board members then >> that went to all board members. Yes. >> Not board members but policy. >> No, it did not go to this committee. >> And I I guess when I asked you that question, I I should refer to it because usually you and I get together and I ask question about policy. So >> Okay. So they didn't see it ahead of
time. Okay. Um so then if we look on page six six it talks about private or confidential data on an individual shall not be collected, stored, used or disseminated except as provided in Minnesota statute
section 13 uh.05 subdivision 4. So I I did look that up and uh actually got a copy of that. One of the things I was concerned about that and it's law so it's but it says p this is
the uh one 13.05 05 duties. Uh private or confidential data being may be used and disseminated to individuals or entities subsequent to the collection of the data when the responsible authority maintaining the data data has requested approval for a new or different use or
dissemination of the data and that request has been specifically approved by the commissioner as necessary to curate a function assigned by the law. So I I was asking about the different ter terms there and I guess um
what I'm concerned about is is that they have uh the if a parent, you know, if the child takes a whatever it is, some kind of survey or whatever and it's it's um sent to wherever and it
Um um parents know that it's it's for a you know a certain u intended for a certain purpose but later according to this it can be used for a different purpose and that I'm having a
trouble with that because if if I were a parent child I think I'd be very careful the kind of data I'd let the school you know collect because a lot of times it's about the social and emotional and um one reason I'm really concerned about
this is I had a parent and I know we resolved this I think it was a year two years ago uh that it was on on a snow day I think so it's been a couple years they called and said uh why is my student given this data or given this
survey and they sent the survey to to me and it was like some of the questions which should teachers be allowed to carry guns at school should the USS assassinate suspected terrorists in foreign countries and do we support the and it just kept going on and on asking about these really personal questions
and the parent said what to me what uh what is this being used for? So, I'm a little concerned when data goes off, you know, the parent understands this is for this situation or whatever this uh this situation w within the I don't know
what the commissioner of Minnesota uh education wants it for. But then with this it can be changed, you know, and it says uh where is that? because it said it can be it private or confidential data may be
used and disseminated to individuals or entities and I wanted to know who these individuals or entities were but according to your response it must have been from the attorney there the state doesn't define that um so individuals or entities subsequent
to the collection of the data when the responsible authority maintaining the data has requested approval for a new or different use or dissemination So my problem is that the what the parent may think is the intended purpose
uh according to law here they can change it. So I guess I'm having a problem with that one even though it is law. I don't think it's I think government may be overstepping their authority. Uh to me it's it's like data is this data mining? You know we talk about a data mining
with ESG scores environmental social or governance. uh they say I've even heard that ESG scores may take the place of credit scores. So I have a little problem with data going out that that can be used for
a different purpose. You know, uh I guess my paranoid here is to find paranoid I guess is to find you know is it to find out whose uh whose family or whatever's uh you know political meaning they are or political
environment or social spectrum. To me it's collecting it's when you know I think uh we have to be very careful because um that and that parent said it perfectly. She said what is what what what where is this going? I
said that's a good question. And uh so you know some of these things they're when they take these they're permanent. So I even though this is law I'm having a problem with that. So Any
further discussion? So to answer your one question um you asked about individuals or entities and who were they? Uh so the re the reply that came back from legal was the statute does not define individuals or entities if a
state law allows a state agency or a governmental body may be granted access. Doesn't say shall. It says may. >> Yes. Um, and it says, "A similar approach applies to federal law. Review of model policy 515 and its exceptions to parental consent provides an
illustration of the types of laws that exist regarding access to private information to individuals or entities." Okay. >> So, I realize that this is a law, but yet I I still think this opens a door for
uh the government to overstep their bounds. So, That's my concern. >> Um, final call for discussion. >> All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I.
>> Opposed. >> No. >> Right. Motion passes 6 to one. All right. We move on to revision of policies. So, is there a motion to approve sending revisions to policy 8003.4
to the school board? >> So, moved. >> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Discussion. So, I will just say by giving this a little bit of a background. Um, this currently is a policy that we have. It is currently
policy 803.4. All right. Um, Mr. Birdie who could not we be with us this evening went through this made a lot of changes that he wanted to see in this policy. It was brought before this group. This group decided we wanted to send that to
legal to have them go through it and make sure they went through it and everything that you see in red including the redactions are what they came up with. So they added quite a bit. You can see uh they took out a few things here
and there um changed some of the language and then added some legal references uh from like 1992 and two from uh 2005. They then said that they as our legal council were comfortable with this along
with a number change from 803.4 4 to 625 to better match uh the the uh subcategory that it would fall in. Right. Any further discussion? >> No, I was just going to say I I think it
was a really good idea to send it back to legal because I think they made some changes that necessary. >> Any further discussion? >> All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I.
>> Opposed. All right. Motion passes. There are no new policies for us to look at. Our next meeting is November 4th, 2025 at 3:45 p.m. here in our boardroom. Uh
there are no more items to discuss. Is there a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> So move. >> Thank you. Is there a second? Second. >> All those in favor? Oh, I should say discussion, discussion, discussion. >> All right. All those in favor uh signify
by saying I >> I opposed. All right. We are ajourned.