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Okay. All right. You good? Call this meeting to order. Please rise at the table force to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God,

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indivisibley andice. This meeting is called pursuant to the provisions of the open public meetings wallet is meeting June 8, 2026 was included in a list of meetings notice sent to the career news on January 5, 2026 posted on the bulletin board hall

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at that time and remain continuously posted as required. In addition, a copy of the scenario is absent. Councilwoman Herbert >> here. Councilman Levit >> here. >> President Parker >> here. >> And mayor

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>> here. Um, so I'm going to defer my this commissioner's report or the chief there a little later u for the executive session. So so when he comes I'm just going to have to hand you the police report. This do it so much better than I

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and more thorough. Um so a few things to report. Uh number one, after months of uh dealing with the Department of Community Affairs Con County regarding reimbursement for ADA uh items in the

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police and uh DCA has added just under $60,000 more to our reimburseable. So um we were already getting just under $100,000. So now we're going to be getting about 157,000 back. um which you know this is money

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that we already spent. So the plan is to put it back into the capital budget line for the police building so that we can now get enough money to do the stalley port. Um which as I keep saying the department of corrections is requiring us to do next. Um there is a FEMA grant

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out that got announced uh I think last week or the week before that uh for the first time in about a year. Um, I have emailed our LEM coordinator. The grant is due June 10th. Uh, so hopefully we'll get something submitted. We are taking

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articles now for the newsletter. Um, I will be signing the rarity headquarters agreement for them to come onto our property to do u the study for the dam removal project that the DP has

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proposed. Um, you know, there was a lot of rumors going around that they were going to be removing it this year or next year. Turns out they never even studied what the effects are going to be if they remove the dam. So, u apparently a tiny tiny tiny portion somewhere and

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uh they need access the contract was rejected by attorney. Uh, he didn't think it was a big deal at all. >> Simple access agreement, right? >> Huh? >> Simple access agreement, >> right? And I know they reached out to Calvin Levit about it. So, um that's going to happen.

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Um the railway easement that the county was looking for for a walking rail a walk a walking trail along the rail uh was brought back to the planning board after discussed here a couple of weeks ago. planning board chair

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uh requested kick back here for the municipal attorney and the municipal planner to work on the ordinance and not the planning board. So, uh if that's okay with everybody, we'll assign that to Beth McVanis and Chris Corsini.

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>> Wait, what is that for a trail? >> It's for the trail linear trail, >> you know, and all that. Everybody good? >> Uh, and finally, um, well, to reenounce or announce and

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announce, uh, the county is holding the 250th parade on Flag Day. Um, this coming Sunday afternoon at 2 o'clock. Rose be closed closing starting at noon, fully closed at 1. It is the largest parade in county history. Um, it's at

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least uh 10 items bigger than the the Christmas parade. Uh, it may last as long as two hours. Um, and uh it should be an amazing an amazing parade. Um, when all said and done, the

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county has requested that the council wave the administrative fee in the overtime for the police department. They will be paying for all the overtime for the department of public works and our police department. Um they are putting in a tremendous amount of inind

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including renting portage Johns. Um they are you know they'll have their OEM here. They're searching here besides ours. Um they are going to have their buildings and grounds department and uh public works department down here. They're bringing down equipment um to make sure everybody is safe. But they

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are requesting that the bureau consider waving. It's a $6 per hour per car fee. So, I don't know. I don't know how many um cars the chief is planning on having here. I think he told me 10. Um and it's

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a parade last four hours from start to end. Um that's $60 an hour um times for it. So, they did ask that the town wave that administrative fee. Um,

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so are you okay with that? >> So then, um, over no >> the county is going to they're >> going to pay for it. >> We're county's going to pay for the overtime for DPW and the police, but we

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get the bureau gets a $6. So the police get like $86 an hour, >> right, for overtime for something like this. The China's going to pay that. Then on top of the 86, there's a $6 an hour fee that the burrow gets for the car sitting there after.

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>> So, >> so they're asking that we wave that, too. So, bringing it to you all, >> you're fine with that. >> President Vice President, >> yes. >> Um, could I have a motion to move?

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>> Is there a second? >> Second. on roll, please explain. >> Uh, Council Mars. >> Yes. >> Council Vice President Inglehart. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Harvard. >> Yes. >> Councilman Lev. >> Yes. >> Council President Parker. >> Yes. >> Who was second? I'm sorry.

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>> Uh, >> so I know I hope you're all I know that the burrow is registered to be in the parade. Um, and uh, I was just telling Councilman Levit, Councilman Herbert that George Washington will be leading off the parade. This is like the George

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Washington who is George Washington for Mount Burn. >> He's so good. >> He's he's amazing, right? So good. He's amazing. So he'll be in Mercer on Saturday >> and u he'll be orating down the parade

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>> from a float. Um and then coming back up for pictures and stuff like that with kids. >> If you've never seen him, it's worth seeing. >> Yeah, he's like the best. >> And um >> who who do you contact to be in the parade? So, the Chamber of Commerce is is kind of running a parade for the

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calendar. >> I put you in already. >> No, this is for my son. Oh, >> he wants me. >> So, if you go to the Chamber of Commerce website under their community calendar to June 14th, the registration's right there. It's really easy. >> Well, he wants to make sure they got the fire company's registration.

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>> Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, that would be just email or call. >> That's all. >> Yeah. >> But I know that um they count items. They're called items. So like a band is an item. Yeah. A boy scout >> July parade is >> So what the chamber told me was our

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memorial day parade had like 22 items. >> Um this parade and the Christmas parade generally gets 70 71 72 items. This parade is over 80 at this. >> So they had such a big parade. Yeah. >> So um >> I'll email Chris tomorrow. Make sure.

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>> Okay. And that's it. That's my report. Uh council president. >> Yes. So, um, couple of things. I, again, I told you guys the last time that I was really working behind the scenes and working to kind of bridge, um,

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communications with the county and with some of the senators and all of it just because I just think that Flemington needs to be forefront in a lot of this. So I met with Wicker. Um um soon I met

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with Ulas, let them know what we needed. Um I was invited to tour the hotel with the commissioners. Um and had a brief conversation, but I'm going to have another conversation with them down the

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road. Um so what is coming up to Span? It's like, yes, you're right. And yeah, here's what we're going to do. And so I I I think we're I think we're going to make some progress. I think we're

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going to make some progress. What I really like to see by the end of this year, forget about the summer because that's just not going to happen. that we go to some of the commissioners um meetings so that you guys will recognize

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um that we're all recognized that we understand what's going on in the county and what that effect is on us will be so that when we ask for things that we know what to ask for. We know how we've been into that. Um and if we don't get into that then we need to understand um and let them know that we need to bid into

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that. That sounds kind of crazy, but I just think that that in order to make things happen, we've got to take some initiative. They've got to take some initiative. We've got to take some initiative. And so that's what I'm doing. I'm taking some initiative. Um

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I've been invited to go to um Brent Blacket on Thursday um for reception with the governor. Um, and again, I'm going to mention some things that we need in Flemington since she's going to be talking. Um, so, um,

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I'll let you guys know how that is. I think some of the other things have Oh, couple of other good things are happening. Um, the hotel is furniture is delivered. It's beautiful. It's really, it really is beautiful. Um, we are

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slated for July. Um, and so it is going to happen in July. They did get their T the final TCOS and that's what they were waiting for. Marriott is now in there. Marietta needs so much time to be in there before they could before they would release them. That's all happening

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as we speak this week. Um, it's a good thing they actually are doing a whole hiring thing that they've got all their managers in place and now they got their food service and your guys going to be a bartender. Speaking of which, the um

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uh warehouse that's on 202 um just popped out of my head. Um >> yes, thank you. Restaurant depot. They are looking for people um and so I gave them some contact information, some people that could help them like

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United Way and some other people, but they are definitely looking for people. Uh, one of our neighbors is going to be the head of operations there. Um, yeah, and I'm I'm really excited for him. It's going to be a good thing. He's going to

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try they want to they really want to make reach out to the community and get the community involved in the whole bit. It's going to be one of the biggest distribution centers um uh in the nation from my understanding. Um, so that's that. The other good news is that the

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liquor license they it's under contract. So I can't reveal anything right now because I'm under NDA, so to speak. So >> you have an application.

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>> Let me finish. Let me finish. Um, so we should be receiving something relatively soon because all of that's just happened. Yep. Thank you. And I think I talked to you about this. Um, so the good news is

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is that the liquor license has its own. That's the good news. So at this point, we're just waiting for the paperwork and then we'll go there. Um, but again, I once they once they allow us to tell, then we will tell we will tell you this.

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Um we um the mayor and I had a meeting with RMUTA which I thought was an extremely enlightening meeting about runoff the waste runoff.

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Here's what I think. I think that there's not been a great job at informing the public what the severity of this is. I don't think there's a good job of talking to the legislators and saying we need help. I don't think there's been a good job at

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and and that I'm not pointing fingers. I think it's I think both sides own this. Right. The problem with this is is that if things go ary on this and we they don't get the permits and things like they need and they want it to be brought up to standards and things like that,

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the burl is going to get hit hard with fines. That's my concern. Hard. So, what I did is I asked Ken to put together Ken and Mike to put together a synopsis and a summary about what's going on, what we

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need to do, what the impact for the burl would be if things go right, what the recommendations are, what they're doing to work towards it. Um, in the meantime, I reached out to the um uh the director.

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I would like all of you to tour the facility. I'm going to plan on So, if you guys can send me your availability so that I can send it to him. Um, and I just think I think everyone needs to have all hands on deck on this. Whoever

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sits in these seats next year, they're going to inherit this and they need to understand what's happening. I don't care what seat they're filling, they're going to need to know what's happening. Um, so Ben and then we'll have that ready. I asked him if he could have it ready for the next meeting so that you know he

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could email it to me and I'll I'll email it to you guys and let you know so you guys can read it and and and discuss. But I I I just think there is this huge thing that's going on that nobody knows anything about and I certainly think the public needs to know about it because

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my concern are the tax dollars, my concern is all kinds of stuff, right? Um but that said it was a great meeting because I learned a lot. I went in expecting one thing and came out with another thing that that I see. Um

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the only other thing I have is that um we did request we were asked what do we want in terms of dollars for community. Now I the budget for the governor has not passed yet. You guys know that it's not

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passed. there's some issues there. So to ask for millions of dollars is just probably not reasonable. So what we did is Susan and I talked to Michelle and said this is what we you know here's some of here's some of the things that

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we didn't get grants for. So but they both post. So that's and then I talked to Zaker about it and he thought it was a good idea of what we were posting and I'm going to talk to my show about it when I see her on Thursday because I think that's important. Here's

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the biggest thing we uncovered. There was a $4.5 million water um um it wasn't a grant, it was um it was an allocation that we got

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>> on December 20th of 2022 to build the well. So, the way we found out about this is we were going through this list of things that we needed and one of the things we talked about was the well and

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um the comeback was wait a minute you guys got $4.5 million. So, and we were both caught off guard chuck. So I I reached around. I called Betsy because um the former mayor because it

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was the last meeting of 2022. She said yes. We got the link that it was announced. We and there was several other municipalities got it. Um and it was dedicated for well then what I asked is I I called Bill find out Bill knows

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nothing about it. I called Carla to find out what's in the files in the No one can find out what's going on with this $4.5 million. >> Nope. It's 4.5 >> from from Tom Malinowski gave us $4.5 million

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>> a Booker and it was >> Nope. $4.5 million. I can show you the article >> from the Fed >> from from Tom Malinowski for the water for the well >> for the well. And so we could have had this well done three years ago.

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And so when I talked to Zicker about it, we talked to Michelle. Michelle is doing some is is getting some stuff information to us in the old bed. She sent us all the information. She said, "Yep, absolutely. It was definitely done, etc., etc." So when I talked to

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Zicker, he said, "Have you guys done anything on the well? Anything?" And I said, "I don't know. not back to you for that. Problem is is if we have not that's a problem. >> So is there a letter? I'm like did we get like an official

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>> Well, I'm asking you because I don't know. >> I wasn't elected then. So >> no, but it would change. The letter would have come in January. >> The letter January. >> I would have been all over that. Somebody's got somebody's got something. >> Nobody Bill said that it would not have

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come to him. It would have come to the mayor. That's what and that's what Drewis has said that it would have come to the mayor. That's what Bessie has said it would come to the mayor. Nobody has seen this. Listen, I'm not trying to do that. All I want to know is where is it? What do we need to do to secure it

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if it's not too late because that's $4.5 million that we don't have to bond to anything because Maruchi is the one always told me it was 1.2. >> No, he he's got the wrong project. He's got the wrong project. There's two different things. The 1.2 two was for

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was for the um tank the the water facility up the street. This is for a well. This is specifically for a well. >> And that was the first thing I thought of too, Marca, was I thought they were referring to I thought that Michelle was referring to the to the power as well.

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And she went, "No, no, no. It was the she was talking about the well." >> She was emphatic about it. And then she showed us then she sent us the information. >> That was my first comment. >> And then we were like, "Oh, well, wait a minute. Where is this?" So there so I so

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I have several people working on this to find out where this money is and if it's too late. That's what my concern is. It's too late. And I you know I guess what my frustration is is I kept saying what's going on with the well? What's going on with the well? What's going on with the well?

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And if we haven't done anything on it that might be a problem. I think I do think that um R2uchi has done some of the engineering on it because Bill was planning I think the deal was

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he was going to put the money in the capital budget for this year to match and to to you know to make it because it's like $1.7 million is the estimate and we had 1.2 so Bill was going to put a half a million in the in the capital budget so that it could be done this

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year. So, I think the engineering may have time. >> I hope so. I hope so because it's I mean I I just hope we haven't lost it. That that's I don't understand. It was like I mean and she's like everybody I talked to was in total shock and said what do

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you mean you guys don't have it? We said I don't think I don't think I don't I comfortably can say I don't think council knows anything about this. >> So So the last meeting in 2012 was or 2022 was December 12th. was at the courthouse >> December 20th. This was in I'll show you

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>> 2012 and not 2022 and I don't remember. >> Yep. >> Betsy announcing anything. >> She did. She absolutely did. >> She did. >> Yep. >> It was a letter. It was a letter that came through. >> Hold on. I'm gonna start. Go ahead. Just keep going. I'll pull it up. >> You weren't there.

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>> Because I talked to Betsy about it and Betsy said, "No, I absolutely. We got it." um in the middle and it was the last meeting of of the year. Yep. >> Yep.

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Anyway, I I I'm just letting everyone know that there's something that exists for the well and what I am hoping to have some information back on it in the next couple of days. Um several people

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are digging. Several people are digging. The question is, have we lost it? That's the question. >> So, >> well, normally normally they'll send the email saying, you know, you've got six months to finish this project or send us proof. >> And, you know, in fact, they did ping us

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about the 1.2 asking us for status. So, that's why I'm like really confused. We've never heard from the SS about this. This >> is definitely from Tom Malinosi. Okay. So, was the one I got to know Booker. >> Okay. Anyway, that's my report. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. >> Uh, first off, uh, just very quick, thank you to everybody who attended our pride flag raising ceremony today. Happy Pride Month Wington. I know we just did a five minute for the record. Um, second, um,

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thank you to everybody who attended and participated in the historic house tours and Karma Fest this weekend. They were fantastic events. Third, I wanted to thank people who uh watched the video I put out about our rapid rectangular flashing beacons and sent in comments.

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>> That was great. >> Great. >> That was so good. >> I I had asked for feedback at the end of the video and I had a lot of residents and people uh reach out to me uh where they had the most difficulty crossing

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the street and getting around town. And uh I I look forward to sharing on that more and and working on that more uh our next committee meeting. Um fourth, the package of shade trade ordinances is pretty much finished and will be sent to the planning board uh as soon as we hear

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back from one more of our professionals and we will be having our next meeting uh next. It's never said that >> but it is I don't know% >> um only. That was it.

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>> It's okay. Um and lastly, um please get your articles in for the newsletter. We'd uh rather have too many and have to cut than be short on it. And I'm 100% certain that there is critical information from all of your boards or departments heads that would love to

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inform the public um in an elegant and easily digestible manner. >> And that's everything. Thank you. >> Thank you. Council Herbert. >> Thank you. So, um I want to start with just saying uh there was an awesome art

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opening at Mia Art Online. Thank you for making a point of um inviting us um to Ali of the Bid. Um and and the uh last week I stopped by the new outdoor artist single and it's really cool. It's local

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photographers looking at our local spaces. Definitely highlight um that everyone should go check out. Um, and of course, uh, get a coffee, get some ice cream, support our local businesses. Uh,

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let's um, billboard meeting. Um, most recent was May 13th. It was the usual approvals of hiring and uh lots of hiring because for the summer they have um a lot of

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need to hire part-time people. Um and uh they also uh issued a resolution basically calling on the governor for emergency help um for the cost of healthcare. Um, so I

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look forward to following up with them and seeing what, if anything, we hear back from the governor's office. The library board meets again next Friday. Um, sorry, three Fridays from now. Um, elevator cables that we've talked about previously have been replaced

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successfully. Um, we're getting approval on the bill being paid tonight. Um, and a recent fire inspection surfaced some problems with the communications to the alarm system. So, um, work was done to install new radio and cellular comps for

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that that are redundant. Um, and, um, so we're we're in good shape there. Um, and uh, just as a a an call to uh, folks to to reach out to me, I'm starting to do a lot of research on the need for

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supportive housing um, need for housing for uh, disabled adults in the community. And anyone who um has family or friends with needs or is just interested in supporting the needs of adults with disabilities in our

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community, I welcome you to join my um informal committee um of uh people who are um want to contribute to the ideas and let us know uh what's what's needed.

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>> That's I'm sorry. Are you doing I'm sorry I didn't Are you doing a survey for that? Are you going to try to do a survey? >> Are you just doing it by >> I don't know. I love everybody's um thoughts on surveys. I I don't know how

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uh how successful they are in our community. >> Did you reach out to um Chris Wat's contact person? >> Yes, I had a fantastic meeting with her. She introduced me to three more people I'm going to talk to. Great. um actually

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got the opportunity last week to meet the um commissioner for the New Jersey state uh division of community affairs. Um and she's going to put me in touch with some more people um >> good context. So, >> okay. >> Yeah.

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>> You know what? Also, reach like um reach out to um Hun Healthcare and reach out to United West. So, you know what? Probably what we need to do, let's connect you with the Chamber of Commerce, let them know what you're trying to do and let

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let Chris and those guys help you. They they actually have a um program of um it's the next leaders in Hunter County. They're getting ready to graduate as a matter of fact. Um I just I went to one of their sessions last two weeks ago or

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something like that just for them to to tell me what the projects were. That would be a really good project. Really good project for the next group coming in. So I would reach out to you. Do you have Chris's contact? >> I don't Absolutely.

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>> Thank you very much. Um Vice President >> Yes. Thank you. Um, so I got to start out with my report with some not so good news. Um, there was another dog bite in town and um,

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this one was not dog on dog but dog on person. >> Oh no. >> Um, they're okay person. Um, >> dog on. >> No. >> And more importantly, the dog did not have its jobs, >> which means that the person had to go

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through some very painful, >> very painful procedures themselves. So, I'm going to >> really stress it's got to stop. I mean, I >> I know we all love dogs, but >> you know, people need to be Yeah. Yeah.

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There is there's a there's a legal process that's very >> I you know, I don't want to go into the details of public because there is a legal process that, you know, they the >> they got to go. >> Exactly. though I don't necessarily want to, you know, go any further than that,

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but just stressing the general public, please, please, um, we all love our dogs, but um, if you have a dog that either check your fences, please make sure if you have an aggressive dog to please,

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please be a a responsible dog owner >> and get your dog to shot because that's state law. >> Yes. Thank you. So, I know I've had other um article boring articles about radies clinics and dog shops and stuff before, but I'll be putting another one

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in. I know you don't like repetitive ones. That's okay. >> It needs to have it needs to be um there's like no excuse because they're free and you don't >> Exactly. If you miss Flemington, you can go anywhere in the state of New Jersey and Township has like three a month seems like. Yeah.

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>> And it's just plain scary. It is. It it is. Um, so positive note, I I know that um I know that we've all mentioned this before, but the house tours on Saturday was fabulous. It was hot

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>> and um and and still fabulous. I want to call out a couple um entities. My son and his friend volunteered at Sam Fleming House. say it of all. And um I wanted to thank you know in addition to the and um the the you know the the

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individual homeowners. What I really appreciated was um the uh San Fleming board and the uh county historic society for opening up their museum homes too because I think

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seeing ourselves as more seeing ourselves what Savannah saw themselves decades ago is what we can become and that that is a result of the churches and the individual historic museum homes. um uh opening up to us as well.

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So really thank you all the individual homeowners. A divore farm opened up their um building to us this year. So like I said, I'm not on HBC, but really was a a fantastic event and thank you all for that. Um what I what was not

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mentioned as much as there was so many different things going on on Saturday. Um I stopped by the Flemington Flea Market which was a blast. they were just they're just full of joy and really want to thank um uh Defiant Hair and Groovy Collective for kind of spearheading that

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and organizing that event. Um and the indie bookstore um event Charmed and Bound and Act Two Books, they all had events on Saturday. There was you the place was hopping. So, congratulations to the FID and to all the businesses that really put in uh the effort this

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weekend. Um, I want to very quickly read something that I received from one of the attendees of the um I'm sorry, I should have pulled it up. One of the attendees for the um

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uh uh tours on on Saturday. And the reason why I'm doing this is because I had purchased a um a a gift back basket for my mother-in-law and I bought a bunch of different gift certificates and trinkets and stuff from around town. And

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so this woman sent me this kind note and I I do not know this woman at all, but she was the winner of this gift basket. And my in-laws live an hour away. So this person came an hour away to visit us. So, I'm going to read this to you because I think it really captured the

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spirit of our our town in general, not just this event. So, she said, "Hi, Susan. I have to tell you that today's adventure visiting all the homes and gardens on the house tour was fabulous. My girlfriend and I met so many wonderful homeowners and volunteers, each and every one of them had stories

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to share. Never having been in Flemington before, we didn't know what to expect. I must say that everything was first class. From the morning coffee at Alchemy to the scrumptious dessert at Dolce and Pops chocolates in between, we even did a little shopping and came home

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with a few treasures. You have a true community spirit in Flemington. Anyone who would be proud to call your town home. Thank you so much for your generous donation to the Preserian Church. I just think that really sums it up. It these people never even had been

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here before and they really felt welcomed by our community. So, I want to thank everybody for welcoming all these strangers into the community. Um it really was been great. Um I also attended the opening of Mia on mine um uh with council um President Parker and

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Councilman um Herbert. Um so welcome to her. Um last Thursday I attended I uh on in another capacity my husband and I volunteer at the track and field booster club. So we were I was there on Thursday to present our our annual

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scholarships. But while I was sitting through the threehour um awards ceremony, and Beth knows that because um her daughter won last year, she had to sit through the whole three hours. As I sat there, there were so many kids that I named that I did recognize from the

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burrow and I don't know them personally. and I, you know, don't have the um the right to highlight them uh being that it wasn't I wasn't there in a in a municipal capacity, but I just want to congratulate all the seniors that won

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scholarships last Thursday, specifically our burrow high school um seniors who are graduating on the 18th. So before our next meeting, we will have uh the graduates and as well promise Thursday. So please be safe. Um but it was just a

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lovely ceremony and there was a lot of burrow um residents recognized. So congratulations to all of them. Um yeah and finally uh one thing just a minor um thing but it's so I think everybody will be very happy about it is that the owner

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of the post office um we've had them kind of uh under or watched for the last uh year or so. um anymore. Um Dave Giuliani finally um uh pushed that uh requirement forward for them to replace

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their sidewalks. So that is going to be happening in June. >> No, the police department apparently asked them not to start until after July 8th because of all the activities on each. >> All right. Well, they changed that then. That's not what my email said. Good.

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Good. Good. >> I called David early this afternoon because I got yet another complaint about that sidewalk. >> Yeah. and he told me that the police requested it get postponed and delayed until after. >> Okay. Well, that wasn't on the email, but no, that's okay. Thanks for the update. That's today. Not happy about it

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because it's a private contractor. They they don't need a month to do recycle. >> Yeah. And they were ready to go. >> They have to close. I guess they have to police office there. They have to close. >> So, they came in for a street opening three, four weeks ago. >> Well, it's an important corner. It's an important pedestrian corner. It needs to

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be done right. It's waited this long. Let's just make sure that it's done right. >> No, it is. >> Yeah, >> but it Let's just make sure it's done right and be thankful that it's being done. >> No, no, thanks for the update. You know, that's you you have the most the latest and greatest than I did. >> At least at least one complaint over on

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that and I have over a year, >> which is why Dave's been diligent about following up, you know. >> Um, so I was excited to report that, but >> it's good. I mean, they have all their permits now and they have their contractor hired. >> So, it'll happen.

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>> So, you know, but between the parade, then there's the FIFA event, then there's um >> there's a car show thing, there's the there's the fireworks on July 3rd, and there's the Declaration of Independence on the 8th. The chief just was like,

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"Man, she's getting closed too many times. There's too much stuff going on. Too much traffic. Let's just wait until and then and then it's going to rock and roll. So, >> well, thanks Dave for following up on that and it will happen. >> Okay, thank you. >> Great. >> Uh, Councilman Rice,

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>> everybody, uh, I just don't want to kind of repeat about what everybody said, but uh, I wasn't there Saturday for the house. So unfortunately, due to an event I did have to go to, but I heard it was very, very nice, very beautiful. So some of the pictures I wish I was there, but

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fortunately I couldn't be there. Um, and just congratulations to everybody who set up also Karma Fest yesterday. That was really cool. A ton of kids. Um, I know 3D lab where we're doing like a little cold chameleon thing. I was in searching for my little brother like a

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really big colorful one. Pretty cool. But yeah, it was a good event overall. Um, and yeah, I don't really have too much work. little busy but um oh and just off from the center of plumbing house I know they

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finished painting there so thank you for the painting it's all restored front sides I know there's a bit of I think some of the stairs at the back they have to be replaced as well but uh yeah take a chance to walk down street should check it out it's looking really nice

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looks really good yeah very very good about it thank you >> thank you all right the public No >> public comment session number one. Anybody from the public wishing to have any comment? Please um hold your comments after three minutes. It'll be

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number one at the end of the meeting. Anybody online your hand up to I need Oh, we don't have a microphone. >> I don't need >> Excuse me. You have to have one because they can't. >> No, no, no. It gets recorded. >> But people

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>> It doesn't go through. It it just gets recorded by that microphone every time I'm in the world. >> Really? But they're capable. >> They absolutely >> really >> the microphone only.

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>> Yeah. >> No, but seriously, it gets recorded by the microphone up there at the top and not actually go for the record. >> Good evening. My name is James Ky, 33 Brown Street, Flemington. Thank you for offering the opportunity to the public

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to uh give comments. Uh if this is anecdote, but you'll understand the connection. Uh my daughter is an EMT in Monmouth County and she was the first on scene to two fatalities uh in Mon County over the last month. One of which

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involved a Vesa style motorbike section on 35. I bring that up because the preponderance of motorbikes uh and bicycles in town is growing. Um there are often cases of people who do

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not obey or respect traffic laws. I nearly hit someone on Grant Avenue because I was at a full stop about to go when something came out came off a sidewalk into the crosswalk. Uh my curiosity is is the council doing

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anything to address this and what is the law as far as bicycles, motorbikes, ebikes, etc. on sidewalks in town. >> So there's a there's been an ordinance on the books in this town for probably 20 years that bicycles and ebikes cannot

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be on sidewalks. >> Period. Anywhere in >> I don't think it's enforced um at all. I don't know if it's noticed appropriately. Um, this goes back years that I nearly got hit by someone riding a bike on sidewalk as my wife and I were returning from dinner on a sidewalk at

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Flemington. So, it's I've noticed it and I think when my when my daughter was involved in situation that uh was someone being a little careless or possibly being a little careless on Route 35. Uh >> so we had increasing complaints in 2024

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and the police on main street sidewalks >> um from people coming out of businesses and so the police did a big crackdown >> at that time >> and I think that it's a lot better on Main Street and Main Street. Um but the

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chief will be here later and we can mention it to him to make sure that they're enforcing that. Um I know that there's all kinds of like I think there's block coming out >> July. Mayor Jones. >> Yeah, it's it's already passed. They've been expected to register. >> I have adopted ordinances in in one of

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the town in particular which was more than was required. Uh there are enough tools in the change law for the chief to enforce it as with so much that we do around here. The recurring theme it is about, you know, catching people while they're doing it. Right. Right. Before there's a very sad story.

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>> But that's the problem. The problem is that I hear what you're saying and my concern now that you brought that up, my concern is as the town starts getting busier particularly during the summer with all the stuff going on. Um that and it's not it's not just Main Street, it's

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on Broad Street, it's on Elm Street, it's on Cornell Street, it's on whatever the case may be. Um and so and it's at different times, right? So it's not necessarily in the morning, it could be in the mid-afternoon, it could be late afternoon. So I I I hear what you're

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saying. So the issue really becomes is it was done and then the guards got let down, right? And that I mean that's just that's just the fact that is what it is. Um and so now it needs to be put back on so that it's spotlighted again and that

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the u police are patrolling the area and it's also um I would actually say that the residents if you see it happening in the whole bit you know raise a flag raise a flag and say hey there's a problem here and this is going on constantly and it's

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one bike or whatever the case may be and as much information as you can get. Yeah. >> Thank you for that. >> Sure. Thanks. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Ali Lauren, 29 East Main Street. Um, so just a quick couple of updates from the

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Flemington Improvement District. Um, the first thing, uh, is that I did promise that the signs were going to be up, even if I had to hang them myself. And I will tell you, I have been at the location with the DPW several times. There were some issues with some of the signs. They

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were redone. They are going to be picked up tomorrow. Got nine signs ready to go out. Um and uh I'm working very closely with DPW to get them up um and ensure that the uh damage issues that we ran into do not happen again.

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Um the second is beautifification updates. So, you'll notice that the concrete planters are still on Main Street. In several places, they have been cracked. Um, I'm working with DPW, who is going to be removing all of those planters. And with the first round of money we're getting from the NP grant

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from 2023, uh, which should be arriving any day now, um, we are going to be putting out new planters. I worked with DPW again um to ensure that we know exactly how much water they need when they need them um

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and they should be more beautiful uh and less work going forward. >> You said they were selfwatering or >> Yeah, they are. That's cool. >> Um uh from a quick business update, uh I just want to say that Flemington is

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becoming more and more of a destination for people to open businesses. I've got five people in my inbox in the last couple of weeks who I'm now helping find locations um for new businesses uh and two current rural businesses looking to expand. Uh so we're looking for places. The issue

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we run into is just availability of spaces that are ready for commercial um businesses to go into. Um real fast um I love hearing the update because I think everybody talked about some of the events that were going on this past weekend. And if you'll notice, we have

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events sort of going on that way every single weekend, Thursday through Sunday, and sometime more sometimes more than that. One of the objectives the FIB set out um was to stop being event planners, but to not stop events. Uh and I think that's what's happening. We are becoming a destination for people to travel here

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to do stuff. Um and that is uh by empowering our businesses to run their own events. And so Fulpra Flea were two businesses. They put that concept together. This was the second one. Um we had uh Karma Fest which was put on by three of the businesses on Stangle Road. It was incredible. Um we just keep

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seeing these types of events pop up. We are offering grants. Um Karma Fest was one of them. The House Force was another that the FID gave a grant to. Um and I I think that um this is just the first indication of what is to come in

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Flemington as we continue to grow uh from an event standpoint. Um, with events in mind, um, I did want to share, I know on the 14th is the parade. After the parade, I encourage everyone to walk down to Stangle Road, we have Stomp and So, which is an event that, um, DIY is

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putting on with grant funding from us and the C from FID and the county. Uh, and it features the voices um that are are not as prominent from the Revolutionary War. So, think of some of the women uh, Jacob Francis who is of

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Flemington. Um, we have a performance of Crossings, the new Revolutionary War musical. They are currently trying to become the official recognized musical of New Jersey. They sent me an ordinance uh that they have shared with other governments and I said that after I see

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the musical, I will gladly share it with the council. So, after next week, I will make sure to share it with you guys. um because it does uh it does feature sort of the the other side the untold stories of the Revolutionary War and the event is really focused on that. We're doing a seed exchange. We're going to have a

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caller and four square well not four square dancing. Woo. Um uh and it's going to be a really cool event. So uh also I must say uh in tminus 112 days at this point we have the Flemington Cup the halfway point. Um it is the biggest

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undertaking uh but it is coming together so beautifully and working very closely with county and um the local OEM DPW fire police everybody safety we've had inerson meetings we've done walkthroughs

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um we have not promote promoted it outside of our very small Facebook and and Instagram posts and we've already sold over 700 tickets and so we are now with the police's uh input this morning we're promoting it a little bit wider to get those sales up to our maximum. >> What's your max?

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>> 3,000. Um, there's also a really awesome video that makes me cry already and I it's not been finished yet, but I hope that everybody really enjoys because um this is a grant that the improvement district got and sharing the the heartbeat of our community, which I believe is our

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people, but also our business, our small business owners. We have a really cool video that's going to be coming out this week and so please share it widely. It is beautiful and hopefully everybody's going to feel the same way I do about our little burrow. Um, and then the very last thing is we are rebranding the

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Flemington Improvement District. It's something that's been on my to-do list since well before I was in this role just as a board member. Um, and pretty soon you guys are going to see a new look and feel and a new logo. Uh, and I think we've worked really hard to make sure we capture the essence of Flemington.

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um both the the charm and the history uh meeting the moment of where we're going and that is the the story we're trying to to tell with the FID. So keep your eyes peeled. >> Great. >> Great job. >> I can't even imagine this happening here at

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my line. There's people online but no means that's fine. All right. All right. Um the chief is here. So before I move on uh to the works that um chief u this gentleman did bring to our attention

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that there is an uptick on bicycles and weddings on sidewalks on some of the side streets. >> Um >> yeah um as everybody knows July 19th is the uh race period is over. Um so we're we're uh you know that's one of our main

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bonuses. Um especially if you see an uptick. What what road? >> Just on the side. >> The one that's most glaring was 6:30 in the morning on the Grand Avenue. >> Okay. >> Somebody just crossing at Main Street. That just caught me completely.

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>> Yeah. Now we're going to be out there in uh >> Yeah. I think the two years ago really calmed it down on Main Street, but you know. >> Yeah. Now now, you know, it's a little more >> Yeah. consequence and reports for >> and also I skipped a police commissioner

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report said you were coming if you just wanted to talk about >> um activities for the police department >> can hear it on her >> in the back of the room. >> Ah for the month of May uh we had 38

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criminal investigations. You guys want me to go down the list or >> go? >> Yeah. >> Uh, forgeries for simple assault, criminal mischief, resisting arrest, harassment, endangering welfare of child, theft, DWI, three times, uh,

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criminal sexual contact, trespassing, possession of a weapon unlawful, uh, two contempts of TTRO's, one aggravated assault on law enforcement officer while resisting arrest, aggravated assault, uh, missing person, missing juvenile.

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Did they sound? >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, three disorderly harassments. Uh, two simple assaults, one contempt of a TTRO. Oh, these are the arrests for >> What's a TRO for?

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>> Uh, temporary restraining order, uh, three arrested for uh trespassing, three DWI, three ATS warrants. ATS is automated traffic system. We had 23 motor vehicle crashes, six with injuries, no commercial vehicles.

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>> 23. >> Yeah. >> Burl. >> Yeah, that's where uh >> it's been a lot around the circle the last couple of weeks. >> It's a lot of uh um and majority of our crashes are obviously low impact. Um and they are in the circle. Uh I know the

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parking committee was working with um with the state to get some additional uh signage for it. Um I go through it. I I used to avoid it. I go through it and it seems to be moving smoothly but in those rush hours and uh people who can't

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navigate >> for people who have never really been around here. That's part of me and because >> you know >> that circles in New Jersey are unique to New Jersey. Right. When you go any place else in in the states you don't see circles. So I

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>> especially at the size and the volume of what's going through there. >> Yeah. you know, when when uh when we talked about it prior, you know, my suggestion, which they didn't really particularly care for, was put some uh traffic light in there and and moni and uh monitor it. But it doesn't seem like

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it's going to go that way. They have the ultimate say, but um so, you know, we're going to try some traffic calming motion things. So, trying to try and put more officers just have a visibility so hopefully people uh pay >> people get hurt. >> Not a lot. No, we out of the 23 there

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were six. going really fast. >> No, it's a lot of, you know, the crossovers, right? You know, people or the tractor trailer, people get on the wrong side of that truck and that trailer, uh, sways over, you know, and, uh, you know, they they get eaten by that those trailer tires. But

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thankfully, um, not serious injury, complaint of pain, that type of stuff. So, >> okay. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Terry. >> No problem. I have a question. >> Yeah. While you're here, um, Yeah, you got me all evening.

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>> Well, um the various uh speed cameras that we have right at um I don't know where you guys are, but we forget what's for the street. >> The problem with um right now the um in my budget I put in for some real good

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ones where I can move them myself. Um the ones that we have now require the DPW to put a poll in and you and I talk about that. Spring Street and I just can't break away the message board um with all the events and everything to get it over there on Spring Street. You

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know, it goes from one to the other. My my goal is um hopefully maybe after the 14th, but then with FIFA, we'll see how much need there is for that message board. Um >> is there a poll on Spring Street that we eventually Yeah. >> Yeah. Like originally we we we put the

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polls in and you know to coordinate it takes some time but Yeah. And then uh the way the cars are parked there, it's like finding the the perfect spot because uh not to diminish the complaint or whatever, but it's it's a very short

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street and put the pole in there where we're going to maximize uh you know the top speed is is uh you know it's not an easy task, but um I I do have some uh officers working on that and and really kicking it off and uh

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thankfully the complaintant and I encourage encourage anybody who has a complaint traffic just like the gentleman with the ebikes and stuff u let give us a time you know that helps out you know if you give us a window of time or multiple times three lines you

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know the open-ended oh it happens all the time it you know >> it's it's we >> have you had any complaints about cars not fully stopping and near misses going from spring to April because I I've

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noticed that there just seems to be since we reopened it. I don't know if it's regular traffic or if it's new people living here or if it's the jobers that are working there, but you know, I've been stopping even though I have to stop because I'm not trusting people to

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stop. Just that one original or that one recent complaint was I believe that was part of it with the pedestrian aspect of it and the volume of the traffic that's moving through there but some of the new I don't know the volume of the apartments if anybody knows how many >> there's it is seemed pretty low is

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>> yeah it's very low I think it's like is it like 35 40 >> now they seem to be vans that I've seen there's still contractors >> yeah there's still a lot of work over there. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll uh we'll get out

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there. Go ahead. >> Um going back to the ebike license, >> my understanding is it's in effectively in July. >> July 19th is >> has motor vehicles actually produce a way to

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evending coming. Um, so it's like there is a deadline and but however there is no ability or way for people to move forward or really require. So >> yeah, >> maybe they're holding out on it. >> I I I I would tend to believe if they

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actually had an idea or or >> a you know a button to put that out and it's just >> Well, they might be waiting for their budget too. There might not be any money to do that work. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure it's like some IT stuff and and getting in there and But it's not only ebikes. It's it's the

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electric scooters as well. >> You realize that, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And they're even worse. >> Yeah. >> Because you have these young kids that are on these on these and and they just dive in and out of >> like they'll come off the road, go into the road, come back onto the sidewalk, they just do this, right? >> And going fast. It's

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>> easier for them to jump on and off that thing. And >> y does the the difference between an ebike and the electric scooters. The electric scooters are are they considered like a a man like a like a manual bicycle or are they considered a

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like like a low like these small like >> they're going to fall in the same thing. Yeah, it's it's uh >> so they have to be registered all these these >> they will have to fall under categories and that's part of the you know the registration aspect and the information the state needs to release is

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>> um you know how are they classified? what's you know the moped's still in there we know how that's classified >> but how what makes it this what makes it that and >> a lot of these things are going to be hard to register but you know we have titles for our cars a lot of these things are bought at you know Walmart

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Costco there is no >> seen a lot of kids not wearing helmets when we have a helmet law this year >> that that's the other thing um come the 19th uh complete uh compliance with helmets on anything >> so you're gonna like >> audio give to the kids mornings.

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>> Uh well, I mean, right now we're in warning stage. >> How are we communicating that? That effective 19th grace period's over. Effective the 19th. This has to happen. This has to happen. Or the fine, and I think you need to say what the fine's going to be about. >> Uh yeah. Yeah. Um what we're doing is uh

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I I gave the the news article for the for the uh burough newsletter and we're going to start we originally when it changed put it out on social media and we'll just uh you know refine it, make sure it's still uh up to date and send it out there and and track down the fines and

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see how the they're going to implement those. The helmet law, like the mayor said, is already in place. And that that's an easy find to >> So, a gazillion years ago, police officer Glenn Tabasco, who retired from American Township as a chief, >> Yeah.

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>> used to ride a bicycle around all of the condo complexes and he used to get uh gift certificates from McDonald's for free ice cream and he used to give them to the kids who had helmets on after that law got passed. >> Yeah. in 1995

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>> and sens it, right? So all the kids got around and all the kids are wearing helmets cuz Officer Glenn was around in his bicycle and he freebies. >> Well, hold on. >> Besides that might be alcohol, but you know what? Some I'm concerned about

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portability and it may sound like it's very cheap to us, but it's not cheap to a lot of people. So I would rather see something that's that starts up with handing out. >> We've done we've done both programs. I remember you did that a couple years ago >> and uh GoHun was an excellent um

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excellent partner for us and we've uh reestablished that conversation and and kind of in the works you know it it you know it becomes priority and then in our big conversations it kind of loses a little traction. So, we've been bouncing back and forth that and I know they've been looking for funding because you're

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right. I mean, you know, it it's not a heavy lift for us, but for somebody, right, a 25 $35 helmet, it is a lot of earnings. >> Yeah. >> A 14-year-old on a on a motor is going to have to wear. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. If they're if they're allowed,

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they're actually a 14-year-old won't be able to operate. >> Oh, >> not old enough. So, >> Oh, what is the what's the uh >> I believe it's the 16th 15. 15 treated just like

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there's a lot of kids under age of 14 Christmas time we uh we're encouraging people not to not not to have Santa bring that out. >> So yeah, there's going to be a lot of ebikes up for sale and trying to ship them out to other states I'm sure

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>> or you know people are just gonna you know try it >> see how they get caught. Yeah. And this was right at the beginning of the summer when the kids get out of school. >> Yeah, >> it's got to be overly communicated. I mean, you know, let's say it's going to be in the in the federal news. A lot of

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people don't read that. It's got to be beyond that. I do agree with social media. If there's somehow we connect with WDBR to let that let anything on the >> We'll put it on the message board.

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>> No, the phone call. >> Oh, yeah. reverse. Uh >> I I just think please overcommunicate this because otherwise it's going to come back. >> Yeah. Right. >> And uh you know even if it comes down to uh I've been handing out our uh parking

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uh I started handing those out and even if we have to do something like that before. >> Okay. Target. That'd be good. >> Thanks. >> Yeah. >> I'll be in the back. >> You just yell for Bill to come and get up. >> Sure. I don't want to yell at you.

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>> Nick's game just started. >> I thought it's 8:30. >> Oh, is it 8:30? Okay. >> I think he's logged in as Bug Bunny or something. >> How are you? >> Why don't you uh do an introduction and what's the

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question? Okay. So, the capital project list that I gave everyone coded one just for projects for this year. So, that's all we really have to decide at this time. Um the police department's looking for

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about 120,000 in equipment and that is all a line item in the budget. So, we could spend that right now if you give the approvals. um for $30,000 in there for the rescue squad ambulance that will be paid end of

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the year. That's line item in the budget. Also, uh fire department has $23,000 in the budget for protective equipment. And so that uh that

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and the uh document imaging program that we did for the clerk's office and the planning department and uh construction department for $30,000 that has already been uh awarded it were in the process that

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was in the budget as well. Um so those are all the things that were actually in the line item budget. the the excuse me, the things that need we would need to do bond ordinances for would be the uh library uh renovations

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which they wanted to replace the elevator and do some rehab to the rooms for $175,000 total. Um DPW is looking for about $125,000 in equipment

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and storm sewer repairs. The water department is looking for about $715,000 of equipment and um work to the infrastructure. Um I heard you speaking

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about the 4.5 million before. Um the 300,000 in that list is what you think currently would be the additional amount we need to complete that well. Marti any has he focused at all for

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engineering on that? >> Remember >> I don't believe I I mean I if he did it was years ago. >> It would have been years ago. >> Yeah. I mean it's probably years because he said he's all ready to like we can go

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for that just when we did the >> Well, right. I mean I remember him saying yes we can do this. >> So he must have the design already. Yeah. But I don't think we have permits. That's where we have to start the process.

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>> Okay. So, I'm just trying to I'm a little bit confused. I have questions on follow this, but let me just go back to the well for a second. So, he has a design for the well from what I hear, what the assumption

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is. But where is that? Who is who has knowledge of that? Like had has anybody on console past or present because I I don't remember seeing it and I've been on console for several years. Who else

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has seen it and who who else how has it been discussed? That's what I'm trying to understand because I think where we're going to get hit my concern is this is what they ask. Has there been work done? And having a

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design is one thing but it hasn't been approved. hasn't been whatever and then we don't have any permission the whole bit isn't that doesn't that constitute that there has been work done because there's no proof >> right so my understanding is what happened with this he designed it and

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came up with the price that's how the amount was requested >> but no work has actually been done >> he designed it that's how he came up with the price that's part of the work yeah best part

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of the work. >> Yeah. But I think that's a very deadline, right? Because the bottom line is that nothing has really happened. >> We don't know if the water department Josh has done any testing or anything like that. >> Oh, there must have done something.

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>> But no, I mean our hydraologist must have gone out there to like locate the place for something. >> Was there study >> I think there was like 15 years ago. I think they cited like they they did I think they did a I think the water

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department did a study years ago looking for locations where there could well I know they did. Yeah. >> Okay. So does that define the work has been done once the $4.5 million was a work? That's going to be the question. So when you say 10 years ago, five years

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ago, I don't think they're going to consider that. I really don't. I mean you can't the bullshitters, so to speak. Excuse my language, but the bottom line is that what has been done since 2022? That's really going to be the question.

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I just want us to be prepared for an answer. So, it sounds like no one here has that answer. So, what we really need to do is go to Josh and go to Maruchi and go to whoever else is involved and bring them in and let them tell us what's going on >> because I know Mark Chuchi has been in

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touch with the federal government verifying the money. That I do know because I but I thought it was 142 million. So, but I know he project >> I know he has verified the money. I know he has been in touch with the decks. >> Right, Bill? Because he he communicated that with you.

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>> Yes. >> And I was copied on that email. >> But that's two different projects. Two different projects. This is specifically for the Well, >> I will ask him specifically for the well. >> I will ask him about this tomorrow. Ask him what work he has done since 22. you

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I'm sure he could pull up all his invoices now that shows what details >> for the well >> for the well >> the assembly woman specifically said it was associated with the the two away projects so like the the negotiation was

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these two away sites were coming online therefore we need more of the well so it was it was presented that way to the feds >> and that's when we got the 4.5 I I'm just I'm just baffled that $4.5

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million was slipped out of our purview and the only reason we know about it is because we had a conversation with uh Michelle and she's and then when I went and questioned everybody else there was like

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yeah we did get that awarded. So it's like okay all right I don't want to belabor the point that we just need to ask some questions. I mean, I think the bottom line is has anything because that's what I was asked the senator is, have you done anything on the well? And I said, I don't know. So, now I need to

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if we haven't and hopefully I'll see him on my as well, but um if we haven't, then what are the consequences if we haven't done it? I think that's that's going to be that'll be the question, right? um does that money go away and we're never going to see it again or is

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it still there and we just haven't >> you've gotten no warnings, right? And they usually send out warnings saying >> they they would. Yes, >> they would. Right. So, okay. >> But I wouldn't guarantee that only because administration has changed. >> The administration has changed. What

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what what what you need to understand is Washington is not functioning like Washington functioned in 2020 and and 2021 2022. The point of it is there's a lot of those people that were in there that are

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no longer there. So you're you're working on a skeleton crew almost. So I guess the the bottom line is is that I don't know. I think the bottom line is no one followed up. no one do it was

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just sitting out there. And so now we we've got some champions that are going to try to help us get that money. That's that's the bottom line. We have we have two champions and possibly three come in and bring it up on Thursday. Possibly three champions to see what we could do

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to get that money. >> Okay. So keep going. >> Um so after the last thing is the sewer department looking for about 754,000 uh various equipments and um

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equipment. Uh a lot of it is for the wet weather facility there. Guess they something where they have to make renovations to make it doesn't have issues when flows or something.

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>> So >> that's the RTMU. >> That's the RMBTA that I was bringing up in in my con report. Here's my problem with this. We don't know what we don't know yet. And I don't and I'm seeing bonding, bonding, bonding, bonding. And I don't want to do that. I

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I don't think we need to do all this bonding this year. I just don't I mean I think we need to pick out one or whatever the projects is. But here's my other problem with this and this is my suggestion. I talked to Ken. I've not talked to Josh and I got Ken's take on whatever what's

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going on, but you guys haven't gotten a take on it. And I do think that they should be here in front of council to talk about why they need this money and if it if really needed this year or do we wait until next year or whatever the case may be. Now, and I and I'm not

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going to throw anybody under the bus, but there are a couple of things in here that are questionable. There are a couple of things in here are questionable because it's a wish list. It doesn't necessarily mean that because I know I don't want to go over the

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conversation, but the bottom line is I am not comfortable saying let's pass this because we've not heard from the people who are who put this together and said why we're

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doing this this year. This bonding there's a lot of bonding going on here. Why are we doing that? says it's mostly for equipment. It's not for the improvements of the roads. We have to bond for that to get reimbursed once the work is done. Well,

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>> what do we need to do this with? So, this year priority versus next year's priority versus whatever. I'm sorry about that. >> No, you're you're good. Um, just my my question again. I'm still my first year, so this first time going through the capital budget, so I'm gonna have a lot

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of basic questions. Um, if we have a capital fund, right, that we put money into from the budget every year to save up for stuff that we need to make, right, >> pay a capital expense on. So why would

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we not be using that? >> So we have three capitals, water, sewer, and general capital. We put money aside in general capital every year. Um, we don't typically put the are insured because uh they I mean they they're not

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required to have uh down payments if we were to do a bond. It's basically the money you're putting aside every year is you know couple hundred,000 if you're doing the road it's a million dollars it's going to take you five years four

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or five years to get that just road. So that that's why we bond. So you're required to put 5% down payment for any general water and sewer are not required. So don't have a large capital improvement fund for those.

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Certainly not enough to take you know $700,000. >> Should we have one? >> Should we have that? But you know, >> I mean, from your experience, should we have something like that? >> I would love to, but the only way to increase the budget to do that is to

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increase rates. So, um the again the the equipment that they want that is an expenditure

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where there's no grants available, there's nothing equipment that they want or need. But if they're doing water infrastructure improvements, right now we are eligible to get all of that money reimbursed from

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the IBK, but we have to bond first and extend the money and then we get reimbursed. And I know that we're getting reimbured soon. I got a uh an email from Terry Vote yesterday.

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Um not yesterday, Friday that the uh uh we should be getting checked soon for reimbursement for some of this road work that we've done. Um but you can't in government we can't

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the bank works as a reimbursement. So we have to bond we have to spend the money and then we get a back. >> Yeah, I get that. I just don't see anywhere on here where it says that these are things that we're doing through the >> I and and and and that's that's a good point. And the other point is is that

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when I'm looking at sewer and it says sewer replacement four items >> and then it says Flemington weather facility tank repair that's that's not equipment that's that's a project. >> So that's not true. >> There's four of them in the sewer that are projects not equipment. Those are the ones I

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>> Exactly. The only thing that I see flip and forth is truck replacement, pickup truck for water. >> So, let me just say the capital budget doesn't have a timeline like the operating budget has under state law. >> So, at our next meeting, we can ask the

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water sewer um and Mike to come in. Y >> and I don't know if you want to do the same thing with the the chief and the fire department and have them all come in. we could start at like five o'clock >> um and do a work session with all of them prior to the regular meeting.

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>> Well, I also asked Ken and I and I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to send it out um to all CC all council. I said my question to Ken was do you guys have a strategic plan for the next 10 years or five years or whatever of exactly what

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you're looking at doing in Flint? >> What was Kent ask? He said, "They have a 30-year plan to do it." And I said, "You've got a 30-year plan and who knows about because I certainly have never seen it." >> I gave that to you when I

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>> Right. But my point of it is is that the conversation with Kim because that is a plan that should be looked at every single year to see where you are on it. And now instead of saying,"Well, tell me what you guys want." It's like, "Where is that in relation to the plan so that

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we can check that off?" I just it is just this this chicken down the can down the road scenario just does not work. So, I do agree that we should have them all come in and I do agree that they should, you know, Ken should go over his

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his plan. Mike Sto's plan, whoever, I don't care, but they should all go over the plan so that everybody on this consulate needs to understand what they're asking for and why they're asking for it and what the impact is on the town, on the taxpayer, and on the

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future. So, without that, nothing works. You're just you're just saying here here's this and here's this and we're going to bond for this one. It's clearly we're I don't I don't I would never approve the bond to the service just because I don't know what the outcome is.

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>> Is there anything else that you want to share or discuss? >> I mean it's just on this list. Yeah. So if you have questions on specific projects you have to ask Right. >> Is everybody okay with the five o'clock

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start? start time to 202. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Chief, you okay with that? >> Yeah. >> Probably save you for last because the other guys travel farther.

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>> I have a horrible I >> may would anyone like Jane de Haven from the library or to come and talk about the it's actually only elevator replacement now because they've decided to do the

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labor out of the >> I think I think we talked about the the elevator I was personally >> I think we're fine Can you and the and the lamb that was actually my very minor question was uh about the lamb room. Um

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so that's >> what is that about >> um they are usable >> making it um it lots of cosmetic stuff

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>> the carpet is they got rid of the carpet they're going to get rid of the carpet >> which room is >> it's the middle room between the de's room and uh and the and the and the staircases It's the when you get off the elevator, it's

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the first room you hit. Go up the stairs. You have to go through the D room to get to it. So, it's between So, you got the D room, the bathroom, the land, >> and then the historical that's the room.

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>> So, this won't So, this 30 grand is now not in the capital budget. It's being moved. >> Correct. >> Yeah. What I'm hearing, >> however, just at my that uh or I guess now is the right time

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to to bring it up. This number for the elevator replacement that was what she provided last fall >> um based on limited information. It's not going to be that that's not necessarily an accurate. >> It's going to be higher. >> Uly to be higher.

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>> Do you know by how much? This is where I look at Susan and say, "Yeah." >> Yeah. I mean, I I can tell you that it's going to be a minimum of 200 minimum >> all in because they need what this number is. >> I think it's going to be close to 250.

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just the >> 250 >> work that the uh company who who pro provided a proposal gave but did not include uh general contractor electricians carpenters because there's

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going to be ancillary work that needs to get done >> that's not included in that price >> no and there's an elevator includes electrical includes fire alarm like I don't >> we want Jane to come in >> well I I don't think are going to come

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in. I think what they need is they they need a more accurate >> they need the right price. >> I I think they need I think they need a more accurate estimate from their architect. That's what they need. >> So, all right. So, Councilwoman Herbert will go get that number from Jane get it from their contractor and she doesn't

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have to come in if she can provide us with that number. That's Karen. She doesn't have to come if she needs that number. Um, Bill, are you okay coming in at 5:' on the 22nd? >> Sure. Yeah. Okay. Carla, >> you already moved here.

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>> My dinner, but >> All right. All right. So, I think what we'll do is we'll ask um water, sewer, and uh and roads to come in at 5 and then uh the fire department at 6 and the

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chief at 6:30. I'll give the three of those guys an hour. Does Mike do you want Josh and Ken here too or just Mike? >> All three of them. But they can call in on Zoom if they need. >> Yeah. Yeah. Mike Ken usually does >> because

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>> I think Ken I I I'm going to recommend that Ken comes stand. And the reason why is because I really want you guys to understand what's going on with the party >> because he's got that as a cost thing in here. >> And if it needs to happen, is that really the number or is it higher? But I

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I think he could do it by Zoom. And he was the furthest out of the three guys. >> Let's ask him. >> Who's that? Five. >> Five. >> All three of them. Did he ask the fire department >> at 6:30? The chief. >> I'm not sure that I asked him.

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He said, >> "Well, the chief should be here." >> Yeah. I don't think we need to bring. >> You know what? Fire department. >> I agree. >> Then we can push this whole thing to 5:30. >> Yeah. an hour

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or not >> there >> 5:30 to 6:30 >> W and the chief >> the chief will go at 6:30 but have a little early in case they're done I expected a whole hour >> I'll be >> okay

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>> so we're going to start at 5:30 >> yeah always surprised. >> Yeah, I would I would say chief by the way. >> Okay. All right. You'll notice that Carlos. Thank you.

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>> All right. Anything else, Bill? >> We're good. >> So, we should just mention that we are uh close to the healthcare.

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So we actually, you know, so we actually have decided on a White House outside um sent that uh information to PBA. We're waiting for PBA to get back to us before we sign on the dot line. Uh but it's a

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it's a it's a really good cost. You don't even have plan. >> Yes, >> that's true. And you know when I looked at the list of municipalities who did the same thing as going back there solution there's a significant number.

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>> You'll be my last time. >> So when do you want to present that to the council or do you want to present it to the council bill so that it's discussed and we get to vote on it? >> Wait, we should wait until PBA. >> I think both of

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>> Yeah. Yeah. But we I think we said that we could have our uh consult come to come in and talk to us. >> Yeah. >> So, is it premature to do it on June 22nd? >> You know what? Let me talk to Frank. >> Okay.

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>> Um because he's the one who sent all the information. I got the Did you get copy on the email that he sent out? So, I know they have it. Um and so now it's just a matter of them coming back. It it should be a slam dunk because it's the same plan um same carrier.

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So >> we can put it on for the 22nd and then what I'll do is I'll just I'll send an email send confirmed everybody's okay with the team's >> consult. >> Yeah. And we'll have the consult to come in to go through it all.

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>> Yeah. I check to see if she's available to you on a second, too. >> Yeah. Well, one of them will be available. Take my word for it. Chid to get this done. >> One question. >> Question on the bill's list. Um, just

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there is an item number uh item, sorry, for the water operating fund. Um, that you're the vendor name for and the description is just email 6126. >> That's their email service. I they charge my credit card because

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they need a credit card to pay for email service. >> Credit card. >> We don't have a borrow credit card. So yeah. >> Wow. That's a really good that's a very >> What email service do they use?

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>> Do they not use the name of the >> Oh, these are burrowing. I just divide it between the water sewer and >> Yes, it's our office. Okay, it's the mic. >> Got it. Okay. >> Okay, Bill. Thank you. Have a great night. >> Thanks, Susie.

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>> All right, we'll move on to the agenda. Item nine, uh, approval of minutes, regular session 111, 2026. Can I have a motion, please? >> Move. Is there >> a second? Second. All in favor?

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>> I regular session 11, 2026. Can I have a motion, please? >> Is there a second? and goartwell second >> discussion please. Okay, >> just um I I don't know how important it is for this to be perfectly accurate,

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but in the executive session minutes it mentions giving 30 days notice, but that is actually that's a lot more than >> actually. Um we planned to and did give >> a seven days.

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>> Oh, seven days. You should have emailed me. I would have changed it for the meeting. >> It is important. >> Yeah. 12. Okay, >> I'll change it. 34. >> I have a motion to approve as invented. >> And go ahead. We'll move >> and second.

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>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I uh consent agenda resolution 202695 resolution authorizing the release of $250 road opening bond flesh. Resolution 24696. Resolution

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authorizing a contract with Greg Properties LLC for public safety hazards at Reason Lane 35. W 17 and authorizing a tax collector property. Resolution 26 2026 97 resolution authorizing a contract with

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Properties LLC public safety hazards at 307 highway to block 44 lot 6 and authorizing the tax collector to lean the property. Resolution 20 2698, resolution authorizing electronic tax sale. Resolution 202699,

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resolution authorizing $25 per notice for electronic tax sale. Can I have a motion, please? >> Thankful. I'll move. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Anybody want anything separate for a separate vote? >> Yes, please. >> 96 97.

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Okay. Well, you got to get Bill because 98 says >> Bill. >> Yes, >> please. >> Okay. All right. Um All right. So 96 97 98. All right. So I have a motion to

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approve 95 and 90 >> 99. Thank you. >> Move. Is there a second? >> Uh roll call, please. >> Wait, hold on. I messed up. Who who motions? Herbert Herbert Carver and

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Parker second. >> Okay. Okay. So, uh, Councilman Rice, >> yes. >> Council Vice President Angelhart, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Harper, >> yes. >> Council Le, >> yes. >> And Council President Parker, >> yes. >> Resolution 202697.

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I have a motion, please. The second we're all confused here for a minute. >> It's 9698 and 99. >> 96 97 and 98. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Can I have a motion to approve

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202696? >> Is there a second? >> And go second. >> Discussion. So, um, this, uh, Mr. Corsini, this is a kind of a question for you. Um, not sure if this is just standard language, but

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um, the phrase, and this applies to both 96 and 97, phrase landscaped and beautified. Um, I don't understand why that gets included. um because that to me is above and beyond the uh the

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uh mitigation of public self the self health and safety. Um so I I would prefer us not to uh commit to going beyond health and

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safety. um that it if I were in the uh property owner's shoes, um and I was having more added to my tax lane that I probably already

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have, um I would not be happy that optional work was done without my permission. So this this is this is typical because right now most of these properties it's just mowing. Occasionally we have to trees that are overhanging overhanging sidewalks and

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occasionally has to remove abandoned cars and other junk because it brings in rats and other pests. So it's broad language but it's done very very discretionarily like very cautiously and discerning. >> I I saw these resolutions with a few

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council there were I don't have any background on them. Was a public hearing conducted? >> A public hearing. >> You typically have to conduct that public hearing before you enter a property lean. >> Yeah, these are these are property. I'm sorry to interrupt. These are properties that >> we have we have current leans on. The

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construction department is the construction enforcement department is is required to keep keep these up. They put they you know they're >> in the older leans council. If that's true, that's fine. I don't >> both of these properties have leans on

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them and the the the contract with Korea is specifically for when the construction enforcement officer sees a a a >> sees the problem as is continuing and need and needs to be addressed. I don't

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necessarily disagree with the council woman's uh concern about the word beautified. I get it. Um, that's a general term, but I don't I I don't I don't have an issue with >> But they it's easier to say they're having junk.

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>> I agree with you. Like I get the points on but but but to Beth's point I hear what she's saying. To Beth's point that becomes subjective as opposed to objective. Well, when you say beauty productate

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hazards and abate future h safety hazards is sufficient. I I think it it does it say does it reference the construct uh you know uh in in for per the opinion of the construction enforcement officer

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>> authorized to have the property landscape and beautify simply hazard doesn't say anything about they have discretion or whatever it is doesn't say that >> well then maybe one one of us make a motion to take out the word and

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beautified um it say landscaped per the direction of the construction enforcement officer. Is that >> No, I don't I don't think that's necessary. I think the less works the better. She should say take that >> out and beautify >> the where

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we're doing this that it's for health and safety and we're saying we're going to resolve that they that is going to do this work and it's to obey safety hazards that are currently and then the next be it further resolved is we're

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abating future safety hazards um and and improving lunch for that question okay that >> I would don't know I mean I I would just want to know if the procedures section 99-4.5 compliant with

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I think this is only about section. >> I think you need to take a talk today. >> Yeah, I agree. I'm concerned that you take that language out. It's gonna it's going to affect his his the word the wording is chosen based on the construction enforcement officers

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ordinance. >> This is a new lean that is not pre-existing. I would have concerns. So why don't I still you guys? So then why don't we table? >> All right. So can I have a motion to table 96 96 96 >> 96 and 97

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>> 97 please. >> Oh wait, hold on. You can let me right. Who who was first? >> Trent. >> Trent. Council >> Arise. >> Yes. Council vice president.

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>> Yes. Councilwoman Harour, >> yes. >> Councilman Love it, >> yes. >> And Council President Parker, >> yes. >> Resolution 2026 98. Motion, please. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Which one? >> 98. Is there a second, please?

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>> The electronic text. >> Wait, who first make motion? Second. No, no, I didn't move on. I'm sorry. >> Okay, Brandon second it. Um, any

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discussion? >> Yes, please. >> Bill, I think you're up. >> Bill, question about the electronic tax sale. Um, when is the tax sale plan? >> I haven't set a date yet, but it's coming up.

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>> Okay. And how does a $12 per certificate charge add up to an amount not to exceed of $3,600? >> Because I don't know how many of them are going to be on because it's both war per se and absence.

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>> Do we do we I mean we have pastures to go on to estimate >> it var yeah I mean it varies. I just put that number just based on, you know, a projection, but it's the purchase order is never done for that amount. It's done

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for when you 50 days before the tax sale, you set your tax sale list and that is the amount. If there's 100 properties on there, that's the amount that they charge you. >> Okay? >> Even if all 100 pay the very next day, they're going to charge you that amount.

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>> Okay. Um, how many I mean, we usually start off with uh you know, probably about 200 maybe. >> Um >> Wow. >> But once the tax sale actually comes, we're maybe down to the 15th.

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>> Okay. >> Yeah. So, it's not the amount that's sold is nowhere near, you know, it's it's and to be honest, it's usually the utilities would pay, you know, one quarter since

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last year or whatever. >> Okay, >> they realize that they caught up and and we're having more and more of these property maintenance issues because those will be as well. >> How does

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apologize for again basic stuff but how exactly does tax? It's basically biders bid uh biders bid on the uh the thing off the u the pack amount. Um so say it's $1,000.

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It's it's it's reverse. They bid um down the interest rate. Starts at 18, they bid down to zero, then they'll give you a premium just to have to hold the the lead. >> So they're kind of like borrowing. They're they're buying debt

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in in a sense. >> Well, they're what they're banking on is you not paying the future uh taxes or utilities and then they're going to get 18% on all those uh subsequent payments

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and then if they after two years they can foreclose on your house if you didn't pay redeem. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Um and just all question. >> Sure. Um I don't feel like it matters but the first reference to um division

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of uh local government services on local. >> So again not not a resolution. >> I saw I saw it with I saw with you Matt. So >> I prepared some of them not all. Okay. >> Got that one. >> So but just your legal opinion then does

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it >> really matter if >> you add the word clar the word. Okay, >> great. That's all I had for that one. >> Okay. Great. Um, roll call, please. >> Councilman Rice, >> yes.

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>> Council Vice President Angelart, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Herbert, >> yes. >> Councilman Lev, >> yes. >> Council President Parker, >> yes. >> Thanks, Bill. Uh, introduction of ordinances. Ordinance 202612,

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an ordinance amending section chapter 17-21, residential permit parking and 24hour of the municipal code to create a 24-hour residential permit parking zone the Park Avenue extension. Have a motion, please. >> Parker move.

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>> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Counciloman Rice. >> Yes. >> Council Vice President Angel. >> Yes. Councilwoman Harver. >> Yes. >> Councilman Lev. >> Yes. >> And Council President Parker, >> yes.

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>> Uh, ordinance 2026-13, an ordinance amending 7A traffic scheduled to remove a handicap parking spot on Spring Street. This did not go through. Um, I have a motion, please. >> Move. >> Is there a second? Second. Roll call,

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please. Can I have any discussion? >> Well, you don't usually have question when it's introduced. Well, but I thought my confusion on this is that I thought that this went away because the person >> he they never moved in. So the owner

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came on and said, "Please take that sign down." >> So that >> Okay. So it changed again. >> I'm sorry. >> Okay. Because that wasn't explained. I'm just seeing this. >> It was mentioned briefly at the last meeting, but >> that's why we took or or was in an email or something. It was briefly mentioned.

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Sorry. Yes. Council Vice President Inglehart. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Herbert. >> Yes. >> Councilman Levit. >> Yes. >> And Council Parker. >> Um, yes. >> 2026-14 and ordinance amending section 3-9

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obstruction of street and sidewalk chapter 3 police regulations of the buroughs municipal code to clarify instructions not permitted in the right of way. I have a motion to introduce. Please. >> Is there a second, please?

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I I don't know what this is. >> We know what this is. No struggle. Can I ask a a procedural question? Can I get a second, please? First, for discussion. >> Is this a second just to discuss? >> Yeah, Herbert will second.

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>> Um, so when we between the introduction of ordinances and the public hearings, the adoption Where's the right spot in there for us to have a discussion up here? Is it at the introduction? >> No, it was at the meeting when we talked

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about this. >> This is the obstructions. Yeah. I only made the change that included the property maintenance officer forcing a here. That was all that Brian McNau and I talked about this Thursday last week. I believe that was the only

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change that was requested the last time we met, which >> this was okay. So this came from >> there was another change that >> so there's already an there's an ordinance in place on this already. This is regarding um basketball hoop and all that stuff and then we had some public

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feedback that it wasn't enough that it was you know that it was I mean I don't know if you want to talk about this chief and so Ryan requested a change based on public feedback. It's identical except for three weeks to to the one we've discussed.

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>> Not two weeks ago, but four weeks. We're not here. >> So, where I struggle, and I I guess I didn't see this. I don't know how I didn't see this, but where I struggle is that comes up with all this other stuff, but um it's $1,000 up to $1,000 in a

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fine 90 days in prison. Imprisonment. >> That's like imprisonment. That's like >> I So let me I addressed this with no sorry um so years ago a similar penalty was implemented another client of mine

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um and this provision was flagged and eventually removed which you can remove. You should know that you have as as you're sitting here right now you have let's say no less than a dozen and maybe as close to two dozen exact same penalties in your words. It is the

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>> So why do we need to go back some of our orders? >> Glenn wanted to do that as well. They never did >> because you know what some I mean >> it is a standard New Jersey penalty always council council president. It is a standard New Jersey penalty. There are in addition to being probably a couple dozen at least one dozen in Flemington.

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There are hundreds not thousands of similar penalties across the state. It is the standard penalty that is inserted for any ordinance violation is a 90day because it allows for if you ignore the I don't care. You can take them all out. I I've told my clients again I I do not

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feel strongly about this. I'm just telling you why it exists. >> I understand and I appreciate what you're saying. I really do. I'm not negating it by any means. I just think 90 days imprisonment or obstruction thing. like >> how much time eat how many times do they

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get to do it like or what it just seems it provides theoretically >> you wouldn't come into >> I was going to ask the same thing >> to uh >> could you remind the general public what this is about and why because I'm not thrilled with it and I'd love you to

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>> um there's an explain why >> about a basketball being played in the street on a sidewalk >> and we just want to have the ability to have that removed uh from that area to to uh >> neighborhood that's got you know post stamp houses on post

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>> lawn everything's floating >> living >> and the balls are being thrown and >> do you want the back you're trying to remove the bathroom but just in front of >> just the street private propert >> rightally it was getting it out of the

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street but then it ended up in the you know because right away >> the sidewalks and whatever >> it starts Yeah, that that that period. >> So that was Sergeant McN asked that to be changed. >> Yeah, that that was one of the ways to to mitigate the issue and didn't have that put on private

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>> not being put in the right it's I'm sorry. Are we proposing because right now the basketball hoops in the right of way and I I understand. I think it's absolutely awful that this thing can't stay where it is. I really do.

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It's a dead end street, you know, and >> I I I can't it >> there's got to be a better better way for us to deal with this rather than ordinance it to death. You know, >> the residents don't want that.

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>> Well, res. >> Well, maybe two. No, it's two actually. It's two res. Just so we're clear here to close this the close the loop on this. the other client removed the imprisonment penalty. You guys are certainly welcome to do it. I have no

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preference. Take it out if you want. Um the fine would just stand on itself if you decided to proceed. >> What's it up to? >> I think I think it's Yeah, it just gives the judge a lot of play as to how many times somebody's been in front. That's why it's in there. Exactly why the chief

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said and why it's already in your ordinance in many other places in thousands of locations in that jurisdy, right? >> I don't have a problem with the penalty. I I get that. What I have a problem with is the the the $1,000 and the

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imprisonment >> strike strikes to be up to >> doesn't matter. He can he can he can say a thousand. Yeah. >> Says up to a thousand. He can say,000. Exactly. You don't know who >> penalty is at the I mean at discretionary governing body. Whatever

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you guys want. I just took what was I don't even think that the penalty amount that that is not things that we added actually. That's language that was thrown in your bra. >> It's treated as if that was added because it's been bold and underlined. >> Probably because I copied it from somewhere else.

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Give me a second. any ordinance I need to have a panel in ordinances anyway otherwise what happen >> there's a lot of 17 18 year old kids in this town I'm sure they like to play you know and hang out in the street and play basketball I mean street you know and

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and the difference between a 17year-old and an 18year-old being charged with >> playing basketball in the street is an adult versus a child in a matter of my my son's going to be 18 in a matter of months. I I just this is seem to be a

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better way to handle this. >> I'm fairly sure interpret council council vice president. Um I'm looking right now. I copied that provision because that's an older provision of your ordinance, the pre-existing provision. I'm fairly sure I'm looking right now. I'm going to confirm for you. I did uh copy it from your uh property

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maintenance ordinance which was just south in the code of the ordinance I cited to you earlier in our discussion 95 9B51. >> Okay. >> I copied it because I I treat this as akin to property maintenance, right? So I copied >> because there was no provision. It was

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missing from 40 years whatever. You can see you can see the date of adoption somewhere. >> Okay. So, >> you want >> I have I have um there's really two separate issues I have with this. The imprisonment is if we were to agree that

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it's a good thing to pass an ordinance like this, I would definitely take the imprisonment out. And frankly, I would increase the possible fine because I want it to be truly uh what's the word? um like preventative

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>> serious consequence >> that makes yeah >> um however before we even get to that conversation I think there needs to be a different way to handle this. It is not appropriate for the governing body to be spending all of this time talking about

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something that is a neighbor dispute. >> Yeah, >> we should not be governing neighbor disputes. So, this has been going on for as long as I've been mayor, maybe even longer. >> Yeah. >> Um, Councilman Parker tried to intercede on this. The police have tried to intercede on this. I've tried to

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intercede on this. Um, >> he's quiet down for a while and then it starts up again. The complaints aren't about basketball playing. It's about the obnoxious behavior of the children >> and the ball and going on the property >> and sometimes intentional. There is ring

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video of intentionality of hitting cars and hitting windows and hitting doors with balls. Um, you know, this has been going on. I mean, I've got, as does Councilman Parker, as does the chief. We have endless videos of bad behavior and,

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you know, yes, there could be a civil action and whatever. and they're already in a neighbor war. So, it's not like it's it's not like they want to have their own anonymity because everybody knows who the actors are. >> Um, >> but this affects other neighborhoods as well. I I you know like if we're doing

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an ordinance it's I think that's my issue is we're doing an ordinance for a specific situation >> and but we're not thinking through that maybe there's others that also there was another >> there was another situation >> a while back

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>> but that kind of went away and and and this shall pass some >> and this went away for for the longest time and now it came back but here's the thing even if you move that that basketball structure to their driveway >> the The behavior doesn't necessarily go away. >> No.

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>> So, >> and it's a what a 30 foot removal. >> Exactly. So, you tell them to remove this and then put in the basketball and you know it a kid being a kid sees that they can't do that. So, there and they know who put who's responsible. It's

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going to be retaliation all over. It just is. Yeah. And if there are things where um kids are physically assaulting people's vehicles, there's already laws for that, >> right? That's what I'm saying. It's like, and I don't mean to put it on you

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guys, but but there's there's laws in place for trespassing, for damaging uh people's property, for for you know, being out too, you know, being out so late noise and, you know, we already have stuff on the books like that. And

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>> and we we explained to them that, you know, this is a something they have to take the court take to the next level >> and they don't they don't want to do it. And you know, >> if they did the advice we told them how long ago, this would already be through the court system. This would already be

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through mediation. This would already be >> It seems like we're plating. I think it sounds like we're plating. >> To your point, Jerry, to your point, believe me, I know all about this. to your point, if they're not willing to do what they're supposed to do, then why

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should we even entertain this? Because they're not working with us. They're just saying, "We want you guys to do this and and then when something else happens, they're going to come back in here and they're going to say this, this, and this." I mean, I I just >> Well, I think their position is we filmed them trespassing. >> Yeah.

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>> And trespassing is illegal in Fington Burough. Go do something about it because you got them on tape trespassing. >> They have to go through with the Yeah. But they still have to go through the court process. >> So that's I'm just trying to >> But they want the police to find them or to charge them.

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>> But it doesn't work that way. I was sitting there with Jerry when he explained that to him. It doesn't work that way. This is not going to do anything. >> Just remove the the basketball court from the roadway and uh have it relocate on private property. That is private property,

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>> right? and then burying that you know and and it's a it's a you know to your point it goes in other neighborhoods and stuff but you got to like some roadways um you just can't play street at this point >> I see it more goes more in the context

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of snow or other street sweeping that's really where that's where I have seen it before I see in terms of >> cabse there's also the issue of their safety. >> It's not a playground. It's a roadway. >> It's not It is a road I mean

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>> that's but there's other laws, >> right? Like asking asking the the construction enforcement officer or the police to say, "Hey, you know, >> this is in our way and here's why and let's let's find a new home for it." I guess I I it's really sad that neighbors

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can't work this out between themselves. Like it's it's really sad and I don't I feel like we're being manipulated to to to deal with a a a problem between neighbors. >> I don't disagree with you, but I do know for a fact I do know for a fact that

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everything you've said he's done. >> Everything he's done. So I think it's just out of exasperation to say what can we do? But so I don't know that this will do it. I I just I just don't know that this would do it. >> Yeah. Um because you know what, Jerry,

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think about this for a second. The parents of those kids, if you say like $1,000 or $2,000, it it's it's not possible. It's I mean, literally, it's not possible.

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>> So, what are we doing, right? Um I I agree with I agree with both of you because I think before we pass before we consider this, I think we probably need to table this. I think we need to figure this out. Um whether that is

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I I don't know what it is yet. But if there but again what my real problem with this is the people that came in with the complaining the whole bit and you said it numerous times. Numerous. I sat there and listened to you. I heard you. They came back. I sit down and I

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heard you again. They don't want to do anything. >> The same message. >> So if they don't want to do anything then why are we tossing something? Does this does this allow if we don't pass something does it does it allow them to have equipment in

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the middle of our street >> potentially? Yeah. I mean not in the roadway itself but it it does encourage that. >> There is anything already on the books that says that we can't have a >> not Yeah. Not that way. Does are you talking about in the area or you talking about

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>> I'm talking about I'm talking about the roadway. So it could be anything. Somebody could park a car in the middle there. Somebody could build a pass in the middle there. >> Was there the >> right? So do we need something to stay? You cannot put things in the middle of this road.

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>> So >> but that's not a problem anymore from what I understand. >> Oh, I don't know. But how I did this ordinance, I I amended an existing ordinance um that prohibited certain sales, sidewalk type sales in the

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roadway. I extended that ordinance to include include any impediment, any temporary impediment, but word basketball was not referenced at all this ordinance as you know. Um any temporary impediment temporary impediment in your right of way or the roadway. Um which is by the way

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ordinance very >> you cannot find of a sidewalk. >> Without without amendments to this ordinance, you would not be able as as far as I am aware in your code to find people for any violation of this, right? Which is perfectly fine. You may elect

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not to do that discretionary the governing body. Um most towns have something to do, you know, or have the ability to move. >> What's that? >> Need the sidewalk clear. >> Yeah. Right now you can only do it in the circumstances uh placing thereon any goods, wares, merchandise or other

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articles of trade or sale in any manner whatsoever. So um I have amended your existing ordinance which dates back any jackets uh to include any impediment right because right now you cannot force that. I do not believe I have not looked at every single provision in your code but I spent a lot of time in your

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property maintenance code. Uh I do not believe that you have any existing provision that would allow enforcement. This is a very common provision in child. >> Okay, I hear what you're saying, Chris. I >> also don't care. >> You do what you want. I do hear what you're saying. I I don't know that I

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disagree with what you're saying. I just think the wording of it is where I'm struggling. I think >> I understand there might be a need for it, but I think >> struggling with the wording. I I think there might be a need for a a a little bit of clarification on, you know,

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impeding through this, you know, sidewalk areas and and things like that. But I don't think this is the way to do it. >> And and I don't totally want to take out imprisonment. I just think that that's way over the top. >> I I think maybe we need to try to sit down and and work,

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>> but that's his but with that. If you drive around town on Monday mornings, you will see all kinds of stuff out on sidewalks. Mark free well and our sidewalks are narrow and it's like it's constant issue >> and there's no there's nothing that we

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could like they can't go and say I'm going to write you up if you don't get rid of it because there's nothing to provide for >> motivator >> like I don't know >> aspects of it would be the point which you could find someone for

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litter under certain circumstances certainly I think the garbage aspect of it trend would be that Um, >> it's broadly defined here as any any matter or thing. >> I'm actually quite proud of the language. I took an existing ordinance.

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I was 50 years old. They got what they had and then added some more stuff. I think that >> it comes down to the question not necessarily of one neighbor against another, but does the council does the governing body think it is necessary to have an enforcement mechanism in your ordinance to remove temporary

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impediments from the street and the right away? If the answer is yes, this would be the language I would recommend. If the answer is no, buy a cont. So >> I think it's necessary, but I also agree about the office. So >> I think I believe I told Sergeant McNone, who's a dear friend, that that

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was going to be a problem actually. So >> what is the right way? >> It's hard to determine in the town. The rightway is typically I would measure the rightway for enforcement here. Uh the street, the median, and the sidewalk. I would cease enforcement at

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this at the edge of the sidewalk while your technical rightway may extend a few feet further, right? Utilities and everything else. But but for this purpose, >> what >> practically speaking, >> what about in for example in front of my house there's street, curb, verge,

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little grassy area >> ver the right way >> then sidewalk. So that verge is part of the rightway. >> I think the rightway probably if we were to do a deep deep dive and you have talked about this trend, the rightway probably sends a few feet further from

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the sidewalk edge towards your house. I would not recommend >> I think that it's too complicated. It's too ary the right the sidewalk is going to be built by right so it's in the right so some road improvement something. So I think as a matter of just practicality

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street curb verge as you go sidewalk sidewalk edge enforcement end >> so how my question is mine is this situation how big of an issue is this

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really about question >> yeah because I because I think that's really what the the the crux of this really if >> I think we need to table this until we Right. Because I think the problem is that everybody's struggling with is it just seems like it's directed on

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straight president to this >> as with so much that we do here and I've already referenced it one in one prior matter tonight. It's so much of it has to do with enforcement. So much has to do with who reports it, right? Because you'll never have the ability. It's like with bamboo, right? We had a bamboo.

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You'll never have the ability to send a person out there to look for every shoot of bamboo in the >> No, you wouldn't have to because it'll show itself. >> Did his part president did his part, but it's a matter of enforcement, right? 99% of these things, not just this chief,

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come to you from can come to Dave from a neighbor who's unhappy, right? Maybe not 99%, 95%, let's say. Right? The vast majority are neighbors ratting on each other. It's the only way to put it on that are most bothered. That's not unique to the Burough of Flemington. That is a cross.

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>> No, I'm just asking and I appreciate what you're saying. I hear you. I was just asking the general question. Is this a burlike issue or is it just this? Have we ever heard this before? Excuse me. Have we ever heard this before or >> the garbage can?

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>> But I thought that I thought that we resolved that. I know there was a hot runner who moved in from a different neighborhood in Flemington and moved to a different neighborhood in Flemington and they were for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks. They had a table on a sidewalk

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with different items and some of them for for free and some of them and Dave Giuliani contacted them and said you can't do that. There was no ordinance. Like >> as with so many of your your ordinances, they're probably violations, technical violations, substantive violations every day. Every day that are never caught. They ended up picking up the table and

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moving it into the grass and uh and then and then it was a perpetual yard sale which you don't allow in our orphans. So then he said >> you're one of the best yard sale or this is around. >> Yes. But but it was like weeks that this thing was in the sidewalk in way.

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>> Yeah. So I think in the big picture give Dave more. Why is he asking that? >> Yeah. Since it's going to get table, >> let's talk to Dave discussion. >> Okay. So, uh move to the table, please. >> No. >> Is there a second?

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>> Angel will second, >> please. Thank you, Chief. >> Council, council vice president. >> Yes. >> Counciloman, >> yes. Council, yes. And council president. >> Yes. We don't have any public hearings.

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Regular agenda resolution. of public hearing for the other two is the 22nd. >> Oh, I'm so sorry. Yes, the public hearing for 202612 is uh June 22nd and the ordinance 20613 is June 22nd.

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>> And I did send you guys somebody's comments for >> Yes, this one. >> Good. >> I told them we couldn't really read them until public hearing, but >> that's okay. >> Uh okay. So, well, if you could email me.

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>> Yeah, was tabled. >> Resolution 2026100 resolution recognizing the month of June 2026 as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender questioning interex, asexual, LGBTQIA pride month in the world, please.

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>> Second. >> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Yeah. Vice President. Yes. Councilman Harwood. >> Yes. Councilman Lev. >> Yes. >> Council friends. >> Yes. >> Resolution 20261.

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Resolution authorizing endorsement of an application for treatment works approval to WA permit for the construction of just wastewater collections treatment and disposal system proposed addition to the property known as the Red Crab Juicy Seafood.

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Sorry. Block 49, lots five and six in the burrow of Bloomington. I never turn it on. >> You're here. >> I Googled it to make sure what it was called. >> Don't want to eat.

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>> I'm sorry that you had to type that. >> Please. >> Second. >> Is that nice? That's the question. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I'm sorry. What exactly is this? >> No. >> Oh, so it's going to become a car wash

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and under state law, they have to ship works application to the D and what about the shops at Flemington? >> Yeah. >> You know, I I know where it is, >> but it's for like a water permit kind of thing. >> Triple works approval is is is exactly what it sounds like. It's a D permit

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that is issued through the DP if they're going to be doing um it's a based on size and scale and scope and how much water they're going to be going through. And so they have to go through and get that permit and then it has to be purified. >> So to be allowed to put that much water

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into waste water. >> Yes. >> Okay. Into our wastewater system. >> Yes. Got it. Okay. Thank you. >> They are returning water to us. are not going to use the same amount, but they still require this because of the size of the project. Got it.

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>> The planning board for like uh approved this at their last meeting. >> Yeah. >> Um two years ago. >> Yeah. Two two meetings ago. That's Yeah. >> They don't have the resolution. >> No, we haven't formalized the resolution. You're correct. Um but yeah,

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it's it's a it's a the waters return, but you have to you have this is a formality. Please. >> Yes. >> Council vice president. >> Yes. >> Council. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Council President Parker.

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>> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 2026102 resolution authorizing the endorsements of an application for short approval permit for the construction of just wastewater collection treatment and disposition

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property liberty village block 35 22 3153 54 69 to 71 in the Bington motion please move a >> second any discussion please Yes.

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>> Vice President. >> Yes. >> Councilman Herbert. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Council President Parker. >> Yes. >> Regulation 2026-3 resolution to approve the additional engineering fees from RT Engineering LLC service line. I thank

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funding. Is there a motion please? >> Angle heart will move. >> Second. >> Discussion. Call. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Vice President Angel. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Herbert. >> Yes. >> Councilman Lev. >> Yes.

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>> Council President Park. >> Yes. >> Uh do we want to do this today or do we have not sent back anything accepting the healthcare issue? >> No. No. This there's two different things. >> This this this Are you talking about

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this? >> Yes. >> This is their contract. >> Yeah. This is a >> this has nothing to do with the healthare. Okay, fine. Thank you. Resolution 2026.4 resolution approving terms of success or agreement with the county PBA local 188 please. >> Parker move.

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>> Is there a second? >> Engle will second. >> Any discussion? Yes. Uh where where is this agreement and who's >> Well, you had you have a copy of it in your email. >> Yeah, you do. Bill sent it out. Bill sent out a copy of the to everybody's

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email. >> No, I put it in the box. So, >> yeah. So, what is it? I >> Yes, it's in the box. >> Make sure has it. I don't want to vote on anything. >> Yeah, I could swear I um >> Did you look at the box? Did you look at your book? >> No, I have it here. Well, I have >> Thanks.

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>> So, it's the contract. >> Okay. >> That's a contract. >> Okay. >> Um 3% or uh or four years. Four years, 2% year each year. >> So, each year there's a 3% increase in

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salaries. Yes. And rates for hourly positions. >> Oh, no, no, no. This is only for PBA. Are you talking about for anybody outside? >> Please, anybody that's not an offic I' I've never been a police commissioner

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and I've never been on the contract negotiation. So, pretend I'm a 5-year-old. >> No, that's that's what I'm trying to explain to you. So, there's the rate sheet right there. First one, here's the rate sheet and it gives you what the rates are for each year for each level.

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>> This is for the police department. >> Yep. Yep. No, I'm just counting all of it. Um, and and what specifically what makes it a successor? What what is that? >> Because they assign phase to the

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agreement. >> It's the city of the last contract. Oh, okay. That was >> Oh, you said successor. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yes. >> Okay. >> So, the last contract expired. Shall we renegotiate this contract?

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>> To the gentleman who has his hand up. Um, you can't comment at this time until the next public comment session at the end of all these resolutions. We'll get back to you. And um so um >> Tony and Susan, you were both on that commit, right?

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>> Yes. >> Um and you're happy with this? >> We I think we worked we >> worked hard through two. >> Yeah, we we worked hard and and the the police really worked hard to to kind of meet us in the middle. >> We were up like this and we all came.

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Yeah, it was um and and on I have to thank them because they >> buzz. It was big. I learned a lot about, you know, the I I've been on the DPW um contract negotiations before, but this

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was one, you know, another whole level of complexity being the police department >> because it's two different it's two different >> it was very different. >> One is team and one is PBA. Two different things. I I negotiate teams a lot, but um it is a little bit

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>> but I do want to thank the the police um members of the VA because they really did work hard and and a couple times we walked away and went, "Oh, did we get anywhere? Are we this far?" They kept coming back and forth and and that's what it's all about. I'm happy with

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>> you know what and I'm gonna say I'm going to give kudos to Frank when when he got when he was on he he >> he got his soul with us. Yeah. >> Yeah. Our when he names Frank, he means his our labor attorney right right at the end. We were like, is this going to

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happen or is it and Frank over the I agree with I agree with that. Right. >> I just ask one last question. >> Yeah. Says the outside detail amount spent. You know what it was meant for? >> It was. >> It was $86 an hour. I went up to 90.

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>> I think it's be 96. Is that what the countyy's going to end up paying? >> No. On the on the 14 to 2 and five days a minimum. >> You're saying 96 with the $6. >> $6 goes out of town. The officer gets 90.

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>> Yeah. >> We have four time. Councilman Rice. >> Yes. >> Council Vice President Angel. >> Yes. >> Council. >> Yes. Council Le. >> Yes. >> Council President. Yes.

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>> Okay. Uh resolution 2026 105 resolution to renew the bureau of funding for liquor licenses for the 2020 license term. I have a motion please. >> Second and second discussion

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associates that's juicy crab juiced with that. That's the one that council >> president is holding out on holding out.

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>> Okay. Thank you. That's all the last time in the bank. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Resolution 2020. >> Oh, sorry. Council member Rise. >> Yes. >> Council Vice President. >> Yes.

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>> Council woman. >> Yes. >> Council Le President. >> Yes. >> Resolution 2026. 106 resolution approving the fourth round affordable housing trust fund spending plan. Can I have a motion please? >> Move.

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>> A second. >> Ankle heart will second. >> Any discussion is approved by the courts. Uh, last step housing ground. Roll call, please. >> Councilman Rice, Vice President, >> yes. >> Herbert,

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>> yes. >> Yes. And Council President Parker, >> yes. >> Resolution 2026107, resolution revoking the designation of Cardinal Federal Management as the redeveloper for the redevelopment of block 14, lot one, which is part of the Away redevelopment

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area and terminating the redevelopment agreement regarding the same credit. Motion, please. >> Herbert will move. Do you have a second? >> We'll second. >> Any discussion? Roll call, please. Council member, >> yes. >> Council Vice President Angelart, >> abstain.

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>> Okay. Well done. >> Councilwoman Herbert, >> yes. >> Council Levit, >> yes. >> And council president, >> yes. Resolution 2026 108 resolution revoking the designation of Kina main street urban renewal LLC as the

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redeveloper for the redevelopment of block 5 blocks one and two which parted was local redevelopment area and terminating redevelopment agreement regarding same motion please will move >> is there a secondhart will second >> any discussion

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roll call please rise >> yes >> council vice president Anglehart >> yes >> uh council Merber. >> Yes. >> Council. >> Yes. >> Council President. >> Yes. >> There will be redevelopment committee meeting forthcoming very soon. I'll be

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sending out some dates. Um it seems like I can clear some time off my calendar. It's not me um to talk about next steps. Resolution 2026-109. Resolution amending resolution 202679

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awarding a contract with marking windows for the windows project at Burough Hall due to the increase in the cost of materials. Is there a motion please? >> Angle will second. >> Any discussion? >> Oh, did this go up so much?

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>> Because you you explain because you've got it. You know, but this is like really >> 33% increase. >> No, no, no. He he came back and said the materials cost more and we must quote I think >> but is this this is not the same person?

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>> Yes it is. >> It's the same company. >> Yes. >> But they're still the cheapest done already done. >> No tell about it a year a year ago and it's >> but they're still the cheapest. >> If they're still the cheapest then I'm

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fine. The ne the next one is like 29. >> O >> instruction cost of >> right. But my but my point of it is he's not reliable. >> No, it's not him that's not reliable. It's cost of >> Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what I'm talking about.

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>> No, he's not the first person. >> That's what I'm asking. >> OH, I'M SORRY. >> YEAH. OKAY. This is another person. >> Oh, sorry. All right. Now I'm on board. Now I'm on board. Like what? You're still dealing with >> No. No. God. I thought we need to jump

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off. >> You did. >> All right. >> Wait. Councilman Rice. >> Council Vice President Angel. >> Yes. >> Uh Councilwoman Herbert. >> Yes. >> Council. >> Yes. >> And Council President Clark. >> Yes. What was the name of the first

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time? >> Window. >> Window World. >> And I'm going to call them tomorrow and say, "Order those windows right now." >> Tamari. >> Tamari. Okay. >> Oh, yes. >> Pronoun, please. >> No, I lost one earl. >> All right, we're up to public comment

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session number two. Anybody from the public having any comments, please raise your hand. If you're online, please raise your hand. >> No, he doesn't want to talk. >> Okay. Going once. Okay. Um, you want to

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>> I can't I can't see who it is on. >> I don't know the name. >> Okay. All right. Oh, okay. Okay, Mr. Hurley, you're on. >> Yeah. >> Should I unmute? >> You have to unmute. Somebody has to unmute. >> You got to unmute.

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>> Oh, wait. >> Still unmute. >> Hold on a second. Who's Who's got >> Okay, go ahead. >> Okay, go ahead. >> All right. Tim Early Timley. >> Tim Early, five Walters Lane. uh the discussion regarding the 2026

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ordinance 14. Yeah, we're the ones that brought that up because we've had continued now I've had in the past three months 64 balls into my yard 14 cases of a trespassing now as a

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police called yeah we looked into doing a court and as police have told us repeatedly the courts will probably not even consider kids playing in at all. So that's that's one thing. Yeah, we have taken action. We have looked into that. The previous mediation and again I want to make the point here is and the

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ordinance does that way. A street and the street rightaway is for the passes of vehicles and pedestrians. No other kind of purpose for doing that way. It's interesting that the basketball court that we're talking about was originally in the middle of the court and the police in the town did make the people move it from the middle of the court and

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put it right next to our property which causes the bigger issues. We have had other issues. So that's the problem here. This is what your own ordinance says. It should no obstruction within the street or the sidewalk. There's the question where he's had the attorney added the rightway because really it's

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the whole street right away from the border. The whole street both the pavement, the curb area, the burm area, the sidewalk and even the little area two to three feet of whatever is outside the sidewalk to the rightway is the street rightway. And the purpose to street rideway is for passages of

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vehicles and pedestrians. No other purpose is there. any other purpose an obstruction of that purpose. So what we're looking for here is again I have a I have a basketball court that's an obstruction. I have kids playing in the middle of street that an obstruction. Cars have to move around. Cars have to you know avoid them all the time.

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They're throwing balls at moving cars. They're throwing balls that are hitting power lines. They're throwing balls that I guess that said hit our house, hit our, you know, properties and everything is continually. So that's the issue here why we're bringing this up here. We think you have

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you have you had the current ordinance and they made you move you made them move the basketball court under the current ordinance before. So you can have them move it now. You want to have this ordinance that further defines it. That's good because sometimes it appears to people taking the word which just say

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streets and sidewalks means just a physical concrete sidewalk versus it's really the sidewalk area. The whole border area is covered by this obstruction thing. Just like she brought up here. You go around town there's people dumping things. are all over the place on between the in that border area out to the sidewalk. There's piles of

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things out there. So that's what this is supposed to do and that's where the Pine will do. I understand we have to take whatever personal action between the neighbors. I understand that there's some there we're limited. I have a wife who's got a medical condition which the neighbors are fully aware of

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and which their their actions constantly aggravate that even more. So that's what we're just looking here. that you enforce your own property for what it's intended for and then we'll have to enforce our own property and we understand that but you should be enforcing your property for

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what it's intended for and it's you know the existing ordinance flatly states that already. Now, he's he's put some additional language in there, make it even more clear. Puts in the word right away to make sure it's clear both the streets, the sidewalks in the full rightway. But that's what it is. And it

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already, you know, you have the existing language here that allows for that. So, that's what we're looking for you to do is to enforce your own right away. I understand I have to enforce my own right away and my own property, but we're looking to town to enforce their

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own property for doing that. That's not said, this is an obstruction. Those kids out there, they're I said, they're throwing cars at moving moving vehicles. They're throwing balls at moving vehicles like Marsha talked about. We give you plenty of videos of that, of those kind of actions of what they do. And we have, like I said,

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the parents controlling their kids. They're out there doing things, and the parents tell them no to stop, but the kids keep doing it right after the parents tell them to stop. And we have here in our neighborhood in the last couple years from these people, we have five houses have had to put up no trespassing signs

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and or fences because of these kids just running around every place going all over everybody people's property throwing balls everywhere playing, you know, hitting balls everywhere, running around everywhere in people's yards. That's the problem. That is a problem. And like I said, that's from you to

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enforce your rightway. I will address mine. You enforce yours. They got a big They have a big backyard to play in. They don't play in that. >> Maybe we can have the police and Dave and us kind of sit down and meet

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together and talk about this ordinance and how it's a code enforcement issue versus a police enforcement. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Hurley. We'll get back to you. >> All right.

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>> Okay. Anything else? Anybody else from the public? >> Honor Atkinson. >> Hi. Hi. >> Yes. Hello. >> Hello. Excuse your name and address for the record, please. >> Uh Connor Atkinson, 20 Pennsylvania

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Avenue. Just real quick, two things. First, I texted the chief regarding your request for officers to come down on the 22nd. 6 pm. Correct. >> No. 6:30. >> 6:30.

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>> I don't need the fire department. >> We don't need the fire department. >> Okay. You do not. Okay. Then disregard that. Second thing real quick, there was a small wildfire down at Joint Base Maguire today and uh reason I'm saying

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this because some of the smoke has drifted into Hunington County from this wildfire. There may still be some smoke that will drift in tomorrow. Just want to let the public know. If you do see any smoke, just just reminder, please call 911. It could be anything. We always just like to come out and check.

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That is all. Thank you. Thank you. >> All right. Anybody else from public comment? >> No. >> Seeing none. Payment of bills authorizing payment of bills in the amount 714,12344. Can I have a motion, please?

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Is there a second? >> Second. >> Roll call, please. Councilman Rias, >> yes. >> Council Vice President, >> yes. Councilwoman Harvard. >> Yes. >> Councilman Levit. >> Yes. >> And Council Ps. >> Yes.

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>> Is anybody right if we go right into executive session? >> All right. Let's do I need a motion to go into executive session uh for the purposes of public safety discuss cameras and potential litigation regarding circle wall. I have a motion.

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Please move >> and second. >> Second. All favor break. >> Okay. Have a motion to go back into public. >> Second. All in favor? I have a motion to adjurnn.

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>> Is there a second? I >> in favor I >> Good night. >> Good night.