There we go. [laughter] >> Hi, this is Sher Smith, chairman of Zcab, and I'd like to call this meeting to order. We'll be begin with the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Now we'll begin. We'll begin with roll call. We'll start with Carrie. Gary Henderson,
>> Lori Wolf, Barbara Hill, >> Sher Smith, >> Ellen Vaughn, >> Becky Warner, Karina Brites, >> and Jeff Hoggy. >> Okay. >> And I don't know if we have I see we have a call in. I don't know if it actually if I know. >> Is that Jim? Could it be Carol?
>> Okay, good. Jim or is that Carolyn? >> I bet that's Jim. >> Can you hear me? Okay. >> Well, we can hear you, but we can't see you. Yeah, I couldn't get through on the Zoom video, but I didn't I was able to get in through the phone call. >> Perfect. >> Okay, that works. That'll work. That's
work. Okay, thank you. And we'd like to recognize um Jim Adhalt as our advisor. Um also, I'd like to welcome Lori Wolf as our new member. And um welcome. We're glad glad to have you on board. And
also, I'd like to give recognition to Barbara. She has just been wonderful these last I don't know how many years. I wish she were sitting in this seat, but she's beside me, so I feel confident. [laughter] Thank you, Barbara. Thanks for all your hard work.
>> Thank you, Sherry. >> Uh, okay. We'll um begin with the um approval of the minutes. And if you remember, we did not approve I believe it was September's minutes. So, do we have um anyone does anybody have any
additions or um comments on it? Have you read it through? If not, I'd entertain a motion for acceptance. >> I I so move Barbara Hill. >> Second. Becky Warner. Becky second. Okay. And all in favor?
>> I I >> Okay. Thank you. Then we also need acceptance of our last month's >> minutes. Has everyone >> to accept the October 23rd. >> Okay. >> Minutes. >> I'll second it.
>> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Excellent. Okay. We have public comment. I see Briana. >> Public comment. >> Want to No. [laughter] Brianna, would you like to our excellent
archaeologist? >> Okay, can you all hear me? Okay, excellent. Hi, I am Brianna Vicero. For those who don't know me, I have been with the Moundhouse team since last July 2024. And I've never had the opportunity to come and officially introduce myself to the members of CellCAB and tell you a
little bit about myself while I'm qualified for my job at the moundhouse. Um, so I wanted to take a couple minutes today just to say hi and u introduce myself. Um, so, um, like I said, I joined the team last July. I moved here from Georgia specifically to take this
job with MoundHouse. And so far, I have absolutely loved it. I'm so grateful for the opportunity to work with our amazing collection and Moundhouse's history. So, it's an honor and a privilege that I'm very blessed and thankful to have. So, I just wanted to say that right off the
bat. Um, I obtained my bachelor's degree in anthropology and history from the University of West Georgia. I graduated in December of 2016. I worked a little bit in the real world and then I returned to the University of West Georgia in 2021 to obtain my master's degree in public history and museum
studies. I did a dual program with the Atlanta History Center um where I worked with a lot of prominent uh museum professionals. So they kind of helped shaped me um and they introduced me to the world of collections management. So that's how I came to see you all. I specialize in um uh fieldwork and um
classical Mediterranean archaeology. So, indigenous archaeology, uh, especially working with Florida, um, archaeology has been very new to me, and I just wanted to say thank you to all of our volunteers and various members of CellCAB and the team at Moundhouse who've really helped educate me more on
the Kousa. I I grew up with um, learning more about the Cherokee and the Muscogee uh, tribes and stuff. So, the Kousa was a very new topic for me and I appreciate the opportunity to fully embrace that. Um, and it's been a pleasure working there. Uh during my undergrad, I worked
at the Antonio Jwering Archaeology Lab on the campus of the University of West Georgia in which I was chosen by the um museum in South Carolina to start cataloging an American Revolutionary War collection that had been excavated in 1977. Um I am really proud to say that I got
it the furthest that any other research student had ever taken the the collection. It was in absolute and utter chaos. So, I'm pretty well equipped working with our collection right now at Mount House and getting it under control. Um, and then when I returned uh six years later to get my master's degree, I was actually asked to return
back to that same collection, this time in a in a leading a leadership capacity. And I had a team of eight undergrads under me the entire two years working on it where we started uh cataloging it and rehousing those artifacts um where they're stored today in that repository at the Wearing Lab. Um, while I was also
in graduate school, I did an internship at the Oakmi Mounts National Historic Park in Mon, Georgia. I worked with the collection from 1933 and it was the site of one of the largest archaeological excavations in US history. Um, they have an amazing earth lodge that is still almost fully intact there. So, if you
are National Park Service goers, I highly recommend a visit. It's amazing. Absolutely amazing. Um, and so I was able to work on that. And during that time, I worked um with their collection. I did emergency excavations as well and I photographed and cataloged a portion
of a new collection there as well. So, um I have a little bit of experience and a lot of passion and I appreciate the opportunity to work here at Mount House. So, thank you all so much. I am always available by phone, email, or just pop over to the moundhouse, see the collection, um see our brand new
artifact preservation center. So, I'd love to show it to you all, but I'm always available uh at for anything that you guys might need. So, thank you so much, >> B. I just have a a quick comment for any can you just for for well till we you came to us we didn't really have a a
collection detailed can you just tell everyone the >> right I'm trying to be nice okay [laughter] >> can you just tell tell everyone um you know like I said yesterday the thousands and thousands that are watching online um [laughter] just the importance of doing that and and briefly just why it's
important >> absolutely so um we are held in the public trust which means We are legally responsible for these artifacts and these historical documents. Um we are legally obligated to take care of them and preserve them for future generations and share them with uh not only just the
visitors of Mount House but all of Southwest Florida and the entire world. What we do is absolutely so important because without finding pieces of these history um we we don't know about the past cultures that came before us. And I believe passionately that if we don't
know our past we have no idea what to do with our future. So it is archaeologists like me, it's historians like me um who are tasked with maintaining our our you know species culture and uh educating future generations on how to also take care of of our history so that we can
keep progressing. And and I will just add that since Brianna's arrival, there is much more emphasis on us focusing on the archae archaeology, which in hindsight we had been missing and now
we're not missing it. And I think that's a very important development. It's >> I I have to go back and say I helped way back when we were sorting little plastic bags of bits of pottery and
shell >> y >> and those were the artifacts I knew about. Well, what I found out that there's a whole lot more and what I really learned from Barbara Hill who explained to us how very important this whole process is. Also, Adam Knight took
me aside and sat me down and said, "Okay, we own these things, but we have to show that we do." And you know, all of that paperwork and incredible stuff has to be done. And then I'm going to say one thing that I've learned about Briana in a very short time is I don't
know anybody who has more enthusiasm [laughter] for the moundhouse and this process of cataloging all of this stuff. >> Anyway, thank you. >> Oh, thank you. It's my It's my privilege. Thanks for allowing me the opportunity. >> And if you, you know, if you get a chance, hopefully everyone, you know,
listening is is going to go on a tour of the Mountain House, you can see her in action. Um, it's really cool. I thought that was one of the the coolest things about having the the collection there and having Brianna up, you know, with with the window in there where you can see and getting, you know, once in a while getting a behind-the-scenes tour
is that there are thousands and thousands and thousands. And we do have not only a responsible want to show this history, but a legal um >> legal obligation, too. So, having her on here is is super important. You've done
just a fantastic job. Thank you. >> Thank you. Yes. Thank you all so much. Thank you. Thank you. >> And also too, maybe in the future we may be calling upon you to do a few programs for the public because I know that people are just so enthused about the
archaeology. if that would be agreeable with you. >> Absolutely. I'm I'm always willing to uh help our education team develop programs to bring archaeology more to the forefront because as I like to tell visitors when they come in, not only are we a historic house museum, but we're also an archaeological site and we're
also wildlife preservation. So, not only are they getting the history of the Moundhouse, but they're also getting that archaeology history as well. Um, and seeing all those beautiful native plants and and native species around. Um, and so they're getting, I like to call it a triple threat. That's what I like to tell our visitors. So, they're
getting so much more than just a walk through a couple of exhibits. There's so much amazing history to explore there, and we just have to be brave enough to to go deeper. And so, I'm I'm happy to be a part of that. >> And Brianna, you're more than welcome to um to add what you're currently working
on as far as your program, the behind thescenes tour. >> Fabulous. I'm super excited to announce that um starting at the end of this month um I believe or starting of December we are launching a brand new tour with me called archaeology and archives. So 30 minutes of the tour will
take place outside walking around the grounds discussing um the Kousa occupation, the building of the Shell Mitten and why it's important. um how we know what we know about the site through the study of archaeology, what archaeology is, the tools involved in archaeology, um and the history of the
excavations that took place on site between 2002 and 2011. Um and why we have our collection um in it in of itself. And then the other half of the tour will take place behind the scenes with me in the new artifact preservation center where I'll get to educate them on
collections management, um the collection itself. get to have a view of the collection and see why I do what I do and what I'm currently working on. Um, so I'm very very very excited about it and I cannot wait to share that with you guys. >> Excellent. >> Excellent. >> I'm sorry. And since she's she's here, I
I also want to, you know, toot her horn. Uh as I did in Borcab yesterday, if you watch and and the staff at Mountain House, when we had to make those tough cuts or when council had to make those tough cuts, there was a risk that we weren't going to be doing as many programs. I mean, that was one of the the thoughts was we didn't have the
staff to do it. We didn't want to overwork them, but as you can hear, there's a ton of good stuff going on. And each one of those staff are not only doing their job, but doing a little piece of of of somebody else's job, which which we I want to thank you and and the rest of the staff because I
don't get to I don't do that very often, but um I should do it a lot more often because they've been doing a lot more with with less, which is good. And uh we had to make budget cuts for a reason. and I understand that, but they really have stepped up um and not only do their role, but but to make the Moundhouse
even better and and I think the programming there is just phenomenal right now. So, um thank you. >> My pleasure. It's a team effort. Archaeology is not done by itself. History is not not not uh discovered by itself. It's a team effort and I've got the best team. >> Very nice.
>> Thank you. Thank you, Brianna. >> Um >> just a quick question for Karina. Am am I >> Karina? >> Karina. Um, do we have Briana here for the rest of the meeting to discuss the collection management policy? Because if
we have any questions, you'd be the perfect perfect museum professional to ask, especially now that we don't have a museum director currently. Hopefully, that's uh that can be part of the staff report is to update on that. >> But yes, great. Don't go don't go
anywhere. [laughter] Yeah, we're asking you to stay. >> Okay. Okay. Anyone else for Briana? And we'll move on to uh the staff report and we have Jeff and Karina. I'll just start with that question that
I got. Um it is currently posted. Um we haven't got a chance to go through the resumes yet and the applicants, but we will be doing that shortly. Um we have a leadership meeting, so I'll ask what the status is on that. Is the job description and the actual uh um
requirements uh the same as it was when Adam was applying? >> I believe so. Um I'd have to go double check, but that was we didn't I don't think we did any modifications. >> Didn't change anything. Okay, great. >> No, and we do have um Sandra is back as
a visitor services at the um museum store. So, we, you know, that was one of the positions that we had to initially reallocate, but now that we have this opening, um, with the museum manager position, we have a few funds to allocate to that for the year since it's
been open now for for a little bit. But um we were finding that with all the good work that the staff are doing, having them sit, you know, in the museum and and help with tours and starting the tours and in the museum soro probably wasn't the best best fill for what they were doing. Although I do appreciate
them them doing it. Um so Sandra's back. She's happy to be back. We're happy to have her back. So that's just another staffing change. >> And it doesn't change the budget at all. It just it is what it is. Yeah, then I'll just give I do have to go at about 1:55. I have a meeting at 2.
Um, so if you need anything from me, shout at me now. Um, but I'll just give an update on Newton. Um, it was we had the bid opening for the design. Uh, I believe it was two weeks ago was the opening. We had four bids uh for the
design portion of it. um we decided as a as a as a selection committee that we've wanted to do take at least the top three and and do interviews with them. So the CDBGDR uh funds it's a process of course and if you
watch board capital at all we discussed it kind of in length about the pool but um so normally what would happen is we we do the selection committee we could select them and then just start working with them for the the CDBGDR and the Lee County and the HUD requirements is that we do two interviews with with either
one or however many we want to do the companies we want to do. So we picked three because they were all really close and really qualified. So, um, those and I'll let everyone know. It'll be a public meeting, so I'll let everyone know um when those will be. We're just we're with the holidays, it's tough to try to get everyone together, but we
want to do it obviously before the uh the Christmas break or the holiday break. Um, [clears throat] for all of these, but we do have three. So, we have three really good ones um and you know, we're looking forward to their presentation documents were were great. um they all they all were
familiar with the R2P2 um how we did that and I think that that's a big part of it and I want just want to say in public that you know this this was vetted this was we had um what should we call it sherots [laughter] um with with the R2P2 that we kind of
designed know as a community they were invited they kind of designed this thing that we all were happy with um so and I I've presented it to to the board um Lori for you. I think the only new one. I I'll get that to you if you haven't seen it. Um but I think this one should
be fairly I don't want to say easy because nothing's been easy. >> This one. This one. >> That one. Yes. Correct. >> Oh, I've got this here, too. Here's this one. >> Yep. Um so, we will push through um once we get the design done and have it. So, it has to go to design first. Once
they're ready to to get to for that part, they have the design ready for bid. So, they'll put a bid package together. We'll put it out for construction bid and then we're back to putting it out for 30 days, waiting 30 days for the the cool off or the whatever the the period and then we'll
have the bid opening and then the two more interviews. So, the money's still there. I just wanted like I told them with the pool and the north tower, north water tower, the money's there. It's just been a process and I get it. That's the process we have to go through. They're not delaying it.
Lee County is not delaying it. HUD's not delaying it. Um we're not delaying it. It's just a it's just been a process. Um so right now, um it's just Newton be Newton Park is fenced off. Um the bathroom trailers are there. There's paid parking. They do beach walks. Um
still still then. Um still now. We are working with our team to get it cleaned up just a little. There's there's some debris still from I think they pulled off the beach and just kind of put there after a storm. I think there's some logs and that kind of thing. Yeah. >> So, we're working on and then we'll probably get it raked and just make it
look nice in there, too. Um until we start the the process of of construction. >> Uh we're starting to get more people to park there. So, that's good for all of us to raise money. Um but, um also, there are um there's no doggy poop bags there. A lot of people walk their dogs in there because Newton Park was known
to be very dog friendly and there's no poo bags on either side. So, we really need to get one put in there. There's one down the beach from us, but there's nothing there in front of. So, we need that because a lot of people bring their little dogs there. >> I mean, a lot. >> We We'll try to get one there and by the
restroom trailers as people. >> The restroom is great, but I do think down by the beach because that's where everybody's like that's where there always used to be. Both of them used to be there with a trash can right there and they're not there anymore. >> Okay. No, I'll make sure to get one up cuz I think every other access probably has one. I'm not sure why.
>> I know the ones down that way does, but yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, no, I I'll make a note. They'll they can get that put up really easy. So, we have >> Thank you. Is there is there a sign mentioning that that the beachwalks are happening in the date? >> That's what I >> a sign. Um >> there's no sign.
>> I'm I'm there every day. So, no, there's no sign. >> I think a sign would be >> like do do you put them up as you're there? No. No. Like a like a sandwich board that says beach beachwalks. We used to have the brown sign. >> Yes. >> The brown sign is still Well, I don't know. That's not there anymore, you guys. Cuz that's right by my condo.
That's not there anymore. >> Yeah. I don't think anything. So, yeah. So, it would have a brown sign saying and if if the times and the dates are likely to change, maybe just say beachwalk begins here and then a QR code something to that further information
but doesn't tie you to something that may change. >> Yeah, they could just do the beach. They used to have just beachwalks on there and then we could put a QR code right there and that would take take us right to the website. >> Yeah, >> that'd be fantastic. >> The QR >> couldn't the QR code. Oh, give you even
more information about what was there or something? >> It'll take you to the website. >> Yeah, it would just take you right to the information. >> They'll take care of that. Yeah. >> Okay. Um, who is doing the beach talks? >> Emily. >> Emily. Emily is doing them. Okay. And what is the time again? Is it still?
>> It's on Tuesdays at 9:00 a.m. >> T Tuesdays at 9. Okay. >> I found it. >> Oh, you got it. >> Okay. Okay. Um, Karina, do you have uh more that you want to go over? I do. [laughter]
All right. So, visitations at um at the moundhouse are um starting to pick up. We had we hosted a total of four four groups this month so far. Uh kayak tours, we had 21 bookings for
the month as of today. Yes. >> Good. >> Uh as far as events, we had movies on the mound. We had 25 visitors. We added um some lawn games. It was really fun. Um we are showing the next one on
December 20th and uh we're hoping that more we have more visitors then. >> Someone have a sponsor. >> Do those have sponsors? >> They Yeah. Um on November 29th, we're going to have
a museum store um basar sale and we'll have 15% off storewide and 35% off selected items. So that will be something fun. November >> November 29th.
>> And does that that coincides with shop small day? >> Exactly. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Um, the museum is going to be closed Thanksgiving and the day after Thanksgiving. Uh, for Christmas December 24th and 25th
and for New Year's, December 31st and January 1st of 26. And closures will be posted on social media and our website. We are also trying to revamp our volunteer program who's working with the
friends of the moundhouse to um get that started scheduling a volunteer fair at the moundhouse sometime in January 2026. >> So we're really excited about that as well. >> Uh we're going to follow up with a
museum assessment program today. Um, we are very happy to announce that the Friends of the Moundhouse approved a um funds uh for 25,200
for the use of um uh public relations 7,200 for public relations match for arts and attraction funds. Uh $5,000 for general promotion, $5,000 for merchandise for resale at the museum
gift store, $3,000 for education supplies and programs, uh $2,000 for web services, $2,500 for training, and $500 for printing and binding. >> Excellent. >> So, very excited about that, and it's
something that we're look forward to spending. >> Wonderful. [laughter] And and I think it makes it abundantly clear that the friends of the moundhouse are completely committed to doing whatever is possible to support the the physical facility and its programming. >> Yes. >> Yes. And that that's great. I I don't
think that's wavered, but thank you for reiterating that. We've always appreciated obviously everything that the friends has has done um for the Mount Austin. Some of you are are are members of the Friends, which is great. So, >> we wanted those thousands of people watching that to be sure that they knew. >> Thank you. I like [laughter] you embrace
the thousands of people and no one's nervous about it. So, >> um so we are happy that the gutters are finally done at the moundhouse. Yes, that little body is done. >> Um the staff uh well, we're still
working on the um repairs, maintenance and repairs of the moundhouse. We're still working on that. uh the story app um staff were still working on um on doing some tours, but we're we're not
there yet. Um uh just wanted to I just left it there about the artifacts, the documentation and pro provenence. Um I guess we're still working on that. is
um >> yeah well it's it's still there pending uh one of the things that I wanted to mention you today is about um story file and this is something that um
uh we learn at SEMC and uh it's it's an interactive AI uh tool or exhibit that uh where visitors or residents will be able to speak, ask questions or
engage with a person that we choose. It could be um for example our first mayor or you know something something like that. Um so it's something amazing to preserve
our island history and the stories be you know behind our island. So if you look at the report on the last page, there is a picture of a sample of how that will work.
>> Um so the person selected to do this and and this is just an an idea right now that I'm pitching. um we'll spend about two to three days uh recording stories and um the history of the town or you
know whatever we choose and um once the one is that is done they work with AI to so that you can actually speak to that person ask questions and the person will
um >> that it's will respond, you know, according to everything that we have there. >> You have to ask the right questions though. >> Well, um, they you do have like a list of Yeah. things a guide. Correct.
>> When you refer to they, who are they? >> I'm sorry. >> When when you're referring to they, who are they? >> Speakers. >> You mean the people asking the questions? >> No, the visitors. >> Oh, the visitor. Correct. You're any visitor that comes in. And so is this a
program that we that s the um museum am sponsors or funds or how >> No, it's not it's not funded. I just wanted to introduce the um it's not a program. It's a like an exhibit kind of um
>> right that's but it we will have to fund it. It's not it's not um >> Do you have an idea of what that involves? Erh well as far as the monetary >> yeah I mean just >> that's it's somewhere between 130 and
$180,000 >> now don't let's let's not get hung up on that I because this is just one of the one of the companies that probably does it when we went to the do a conference in Tampa with um the town manager deputy town manager and uh and Frankie
>> we went to the trade show or whatever was there you know the booths I would I would guess that 40% % of the booths were AI related. >> Yeah. >> Um we we know that that that's a big deal. Um >> you know, we want to get the right information out too. Uh I know you can
go to AI on on your computer and all that, but you don't really know if the you hope it's accurate, but you don't know if it's accurate. So, what this would do is it would pull from our archives, um pull from our documents, our meetings, and give the information through there. So, it would be actual
information that we've already done. So, let's say the town would get it and you'd call up and you'd say, "Hey, how do I do I need a permit for a fence?" It would generate an answer for you like, "Oh, you need a fence if it's this setback or this high." So, it takes all your information. So, it's not pulling
from the web. It's not pulling from everywhere. It's it's it's actually we we've we've met with a few companies and it's just fantastic. I mean, the customer service alone, you know, that it would would it would help would be great. I know a lot of people want to talk to talk to a real person and they certainly can on that. You can say, you
know, representative or may I speak to somebody and they they'd gay. But I mean on the weekends after hours um this is something we can maybe put on a chatbot still on on the website and they could ask questions about Mountain House too. So um I think as we get there I think it's AI AI AI just crazy these days. You
hear it everywhere and it's came on so quick. But the important part is that it would it would be pulling our information and not information some third grader wrote a report about the Kusso on. So yeah, you know what I mean? I you got to take it for a grain of salt just like everything else on the
internet. Um but this would this would pull our actual information, our actual statutes, um you know, resolutions, those kind of things. uh our history of it uh all that would be >> and the longer they keep using it the more active like it just becomes even
better and better because when someone asks a question it automatically we have a lot of clients that we use it for on everything so yeah >> so so the story file one where there is a basically a narrator >> so >> correct >> correct so so is everyone are people
familiar with the showa foundation this is a Steven Spielberg project where they interviewed holocaust survivors >> and they interviewed them in settings. >> This photograph I think is from that >> from the show foundation. So the way they they constructed that for those that are not familiar with it is they
interviewed people to get capture their voice right and so they have their vocabulary their tone and whatever and then you can ask it any question and it will answer you in their voice. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> It's so that's been around I mean show
foundation's been started probably 20 30 years ago. So, it's really that part's proven and I think AI just sped it up. >> Yeah. And there was a we went to another uh speaker and he said he he asked for somebody's phone number. So, he typed in his phone number on his on his phone
called the person back. >> It came up as the guy's wife and her her voice. It can go that's how AI works these days. So, just be careful. [laughter] Um >> it it was incredible. Like he called him right there. Didn't know the guy. So, >> um, you know, there is there's obviously
good and bad. People are using it for really good reasons and and sometimes not. I'm not trying to scare anybody, but this has potential, >> you know, especially with the cuts that we might have. Yeah, it might be an investment, but every time we do another resolution or we talk about a certain thing that we do, it pulls from that
information. So, we can add information, you know, >> it's it's adding all the time, which is great. So, >> is is this >> is this only for people? Would we be able to draw from like the Graces or um anyone in the past?
>> Probably. >> Um I don't know if you could go back on and see a video. Can they capture from an actual video like if Bill was talking or >> Well, as far as this one, this particular company, they will have to uh it has to be a live person. They they
have to go to California and record for a couple of things. >> Okay. Just curious. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But it the potential is there and I'm glad, you know, we weren't even talking AI and when we met this week um and she brought it up. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is right up everyone's alley
these days and and uh and it's great." So, >> yeah. >> So, I just wanted to plant a seed there. Just uh nothing. But, you know, we can continue researching and see what um >> we can do about it, you know, in the future.
Okay. Um and um and then the other thing that I wanted to mention is the uh and and Dan Hughes loop. And uh we talked about the Dan Hughes loop, but as um I included a res the
resolution on your package and it does spelled um just like that um an and Dan Hughes on section two. So, >> I know it's a discussion item, so we I mean, if you guys want if you want to I can Yeah.
>> holiday decorations. Um >> do we have a budget for holiday decorations? >> Um we do have um some um donations that we can use towards that. >> Okay. And do you have were any of those
decorations in the past damaged from the storm? >> Oh, we have no decorations at all. I'm sorry. We don't have any decorations at all at this time. Great. >> Okay. So, what I'm hearing is that we have no decorations. Whatever decorations you have is from a donation. So, you're saying that basically there's
not going to be any decorations that >> Well, we do have donations that we can use to purchase some of some decorations. >> Donations. I see. >> Okay. Good. >> I think they're going to do a lemonade
sale, too. No, no. [laughter] Um, >> so I I guess should we just discuss that as as it's here because that's on um that's items for discussion E. >> Okay. >> And this is kind of what we were we had talked about on Tuesday a little bit uh during our meeting about doing something
like this right at towards the entryway. Um I know we talked about something on the fence which we could do too, >> but just hoping I know we had this discussion a little bit. We had some a month to think about it. Any other thoughts on >> on what it may look like for you all? >> Right.
>> I like the I like the idea that it's kind of rugged >> and I know usually the woman's name is supposed to go first, but really it was Dan Hughes who >> Yeah. >> What is it? >> It's Ann and Dan and
>> so we could we you all >> I'm just saying it could be anything we wanted. All right, Miss >> Although because it is a resolution that was passed by the council, if you wanted to change it, you all could recommend >> that it's Dan and Anne Hughes. [laughter] I'm sorry it has to be like that, but
since the council already approved it, >> so >> So, was there money set aside for this? Because this involves a purchase and a budget item. Can we go back to the Hughes family if we've determined what the cost will be simply because we've
had so many budget cuts this year or may we have to delay this until get Murphy to do it. >> Well, yeah. [laughter] I I remember when when Ry came before us, he was he was so adamant about
having this because the Hughes family had donated so much money and time to so it was an honor coming from us. >> Would it be appropriate to go back to the Hughes family as in Mike and Dana and is there a third child? But anyway,
>> ask their whether they prefer to have their parents' first name or have it be the family. >> I mean, that's that'd be appropriate, too. I mean, we're >> family. >> We we've waited uh when was this? 20 >> three years ago. [laughter] >> I think we can wait another uh till our next meeting to to do it or
>> you know, it's going to take um it'll probably take like >> um three to four weeks to get it on the council agenda anyway. Um if we want to change it, I I don't I think if it if it's in the best if the Hughes family would want something else, I think they
would okay that. Um, I can't speak for the council, but I think that would be fine. And the cost, >> I don't think it's going to be >> that much. >> All that much. I mean, it's it's not going to be like a F dot or um yeah, F dot road sign or anything. It's just
going to be a little thing out front. I'm thinking maybe like >> 12 18 in. Um >> I don't think we even need to have it that big. I think we were all kind of thinking about something about 12 in. >> 12 in. That's fine. And we can have [laughter] that's okay small based on how many letters
>> and if it's if it's Hugh's family would make it I think >> family loop or something. Yeah. >> So um and then would that money come then from moundhouse funds or would we have to go to the friends >> as it sits now? There's no stipulation on on funding for it. There's no budget
budgetary item on the on the resolution. So we would have we would have to talk about that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, if we It is a resolution, so we want to do it and honor that as what the council wanted at the time. Um, I'm assuming and I Yeah, hate to assume, but I'm assuming they would they were
thinking it would just come out of the the general fund not knowing the budget status we're in now. >> Okay, great. And I know um Ellen, you have on friends some contact with Mike. I do. >> So, I think you know if we can feel out the family, >> just go ahead and ask him. That's totally appropriate.
>> That would be great. Is that how you spell Hughes? H U G H G H G H G H G H G H G H G H G H G H G H E S. >> That's right. >> That's how it was in the resolution, too. >> They put H u G S. Yeah, that's spelled incorrectly. >> Yeah. Hu G Hu. >> How did that happen?
>> This is just for discussion purposes only. >> This is This is AI. AI did that. >> Exactly. >> I know. Are there any more any more comments on this? I basically like the the rustic looking one, but
>> the more the copper looking one. >> Yes. >> I sort of like the >> too to be honest right there. Then it'll be cut down. You can put it on there. >> I I didn't mind. >> And avoid the cost of the base. >> Got any dead trees around? >> Well, you could do it you could do a
tree in lacquer at >> Yeah. Ray came. And actually, Seth, who who um came before the public works >> guy at the mound house, the grounds, he he's very creative, so he could come up with something. >> So, I bet the cost wouldn't be I mean, for a little for a sign 12 in or
whatever, I don't think it's going to be crazy. >> And this looks way too formal and and I just think it needs to be far less obtrusive. I you know, just something more simple, >> you Yeah, this is this is one thing that we're you know we want recommendations
on from you all and >> right as far as colors are I know the size you wanted like the 12 ines right and uh what about colors? >> Um >> what do people think about the new signs that the that are based that are based
in a rock? Do people like those colors or the way find wayinding signs? >> Oh the way. >> Should it be similar to that >> or similar is like a historical And that material that the you know the botanis signs are on I think that would
really be in keeping because we've got to get new signs anyway for the new native species plants that are going in. Perhaps we can dubtail this project with the signage necessary for the new plants. >> Maybe that's a great idea. >> I think that works out because then that
sign could be paired with the look of the >> Exactly. Actually, I really do like that idea because then when you you drive in, there you go. It's there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And this >> Well done. This could set a precedent, too. >> We've only been talking about it for
three years. So, we'll get there. We'll get there. >> Okay. We can wait before we solve. >> I mean, we do want to honor that and honor the Hughes family this way, too. >> I appreciate you address that. And, uh, I put also a map there. So, if you want to take a look at the location of the
sign, I put some there are some red spots >> for potential. Um, >> mentioned on the gate, you know, >> I had mentioned that. >> Just right on the gate. >> Right on the gate. You wouldn't even have to
>> Sure. >> You don't have to put the but Yeah. Exactly. So, great. Any more discussion? >> We'll figure something out. >> Yes. Yes, >> I just was going to I would just say from afar here the I I love this idea. I
I would not be too concerned about the council. I with respect to uh I I think if you talk to the family and get their wishes and then design and place it wherecat thinks would be best for the moundhouse, I I'm 99% sure the council
will be very supportive of your recommendation. >> Okay. Excellent. Thank you, Jim. That helps a lot. So, Yeah. >> Does anybody want to make a recommendation now or do we want to >> I I would like to make a motion that we
um after having reviewed what we've been presented today that we delay the conversation until such time as the botanical signs are going to be made for the new native species plants that will be installed and have this match up with
what uh those signs will look like, which again will match up what we already have in place and those were me Kissingers's uh botanical images that were in coordination. So, um that's my recommendation.
>> Second. All right. Okay. The recommend a motion. Sorry. >> Yeah, it's a motion. A motion has been made and seconded that we um delay for four for maybe four weeks or so. Um consult with the family and make the
sign. So, it's going to be um complementing our um the the foliage signs. I guess we'd say the the botanical signs. >> So, um all in favor of that, say I. >> I.
>> Okay. Motion carries. [laughter] Um Karina, do you have anything more? >> And one more thing about um and I believe this is a question for Barbara. Um I believe at some point um there was
talk about the uh naming rights policy. Do you remember talking about it or have we ever >> we had the same conversation yesterday at Borab? It is. >> Yeah. >> So you want me to me just recap kind of our conversation from >> Definitely. It's as relevant for this advisory board as is
>> and I did reference it cell cab yesterday in the in the borcab discussion about this. We're, you know, we're trying to do a townwide um I guess policy on naming rights and how we take in donations. I know they're sometimes two different things um and
how we recognize individuals. So, I I just threw out there for borab um you know how we would do the MURF award and the Maul Holland award once a year and it would go up. We're we're we're looking at somewhere in here to put up pack up that tree or or something. the tree's in kind of bad really bad shape
after. So, I don't know if we we do a mural with something like the the the image of that tree or we'd actually recreate another tree. to have something that way to to recognize somebody every year with nominations. Um I think you know there's just so many people out
there not I mean moundhouse the town you know Bay Oaks whatever that have contributed whether financially or you know with their time and their effort. It's hard to say you know oh we'll have a bench for this person but not this person.
>> Right. I agree. Exactly. you know, and I I I don't want to discount anybody. I don't want to leave anybody out. I don't, you know, I don't want to minimize anybody's efforts. I that I don't want to do. And I I appreciate everyone, you know, everyone's thoughts on it. Um, you know, wanting to
memorialize people and those kind of things. Um, but I think how do you how do you do that? You know, we have there's how many people like how many benches could we put at at Moundhouse and that we don't want to do. um you know or we don't want to dedicate rooms
to people or or that kind of thing because where where does it really stop and I I feel bad because there's been so many people and there's been people that have kind of you know rose to the top a little bit more and had a little more influence on it but you know as we continue it's it's it's
going to be hard you know as as people come in they leave those kind of things it's it's really hard to memorialize people and where do you where do you stop and I'm not I'm not and this has has nothing to do with any individual I'm thinking of, >> but it's just really hard. I know that
then it would be if we did, you know, >> something on that tree or something in the office or something or something in the I think there's location that Karina we talking about on Tuesday that would that would work um back >> of the office. >> So, I don't know. I'm we're just recommendations because we want to do a a townwide policy, but we also want that
to incorporate, [snorts] you know, people and and our our facilities and how they came about and the the efforts that have gone into them. So, um has anyone reached out to other obviously this is an age-old problem for every organization has people that do stuff.
>> Um >> has anyone reached out to other towns, other institutions? I'm thinking your universities in particular who face this all the time to find out how they develop theirs and what kinds of changes they've made. >> Yeah, I've done a little bit of of
research um on municipalities. Uh I'm just starting to dig into, you know, certain ones and just see what they do. And you know, even naming rights if we went that route. I know that's a that's a tricky one, too. But >> if someone wanted to donate $500,000 to Moundhouse, >> we'd probably want to think about it.
[laughter] I think, >> you know, so I'm not a huge fan of it, but >> you know, I know like the you know, I go to a lot of sporting events and you have the >> the >> karina room at at the moundhouse or something, you know, it's not they don't
rename it rename it. But, >> you know, I don't know what that might look like, but at least we need a policy to to go forward with it. Um >> because yeah, if if somebody wants to come in and give a ton of money, it's really going to be hard to say no. And but if we don't have a policy to back it up, >> right, >> you're going to have to accept it because you can't turn down
>> $500,000. >> Well, we can I mean the council can deny any donation that comes in, but I don't think they ever [laughter] No. >> So, have you found that there are many municipalities who have tackled this and have come up with their own? >> There there's a few so far that that have it. Um I I can't speak in detail. I
haven't dug that much into the weeds, but >> there are um there are and we actually have organization or um advisory boards that do it now. You know, MURF is a good one. They they have somebody they nominate somebody every year um and they they get the award. So, we'd take
nominations. You all would discuss it and we would award somebody, you know, for whatever reason, but I don't know the criteria. We'd have to talk about that about the criteria what that is. You know, >> you know, >> that's an that's an award that's presented to them. It's not a plaque or a permanent position on a wall or a
building or a road. >> It It is on remember on that tree they they'd have a little leaf. It's a >> plaque. Okay. So, Murf has a plaque that they put on >> they remember the tree that was in town. So, on the plexi there was Murf. There was there was a bunch of different
organizations uh sorry, advisory boards or volunteers. So, like I gave the example yesterday and I hope Jimmy is okay with this. Jim Jimmy, younger Jimmy Dilia um at Bay Oaks. He he got on there like as a 13 or 14 year old for some volunteer work. So at at Bay Oaks, so he
was nominated for that. So it wasn't just advisory boards, but >> that was the tree at town hall. >> Yeah, it was it was like uh plaster. It was like I don't know. But after the storms it we still have it. We honestly still have it, but it's I don't I think it's beyond repair. >> Was it metal? >> It was metal.
>> The plaster. >> It was metal with plaster around it. >> Okay. And then there was plexiglass and then the leaves were like bronze oright. >> Right. Right. >> So >> I mean do it. I mean I like the leaves on the tree and they can be added and
then you know mount house could have another tree with things and bar could have one on >> one of the buildings and >> but you have to have a policy. >> But you have to have a policy. I think it's a great idea. Yeah. And I I would prefer for any advisory board not to be
that specific, but for us to look to the town and have the town council really agree speak to that and make up that policy for which then we would abide by. >> Correct. And I think that then the recommendation would be to have your own award um as cellcap and they would
>> sure >> honor that and then uh go forward. But yeah, we're looking into it. I know um just leadership in general. We've been looking into it for couple months, but with other stuff going on, it's >> I know. I know. >> But it is an important topic. Um I know obviously we've talked about it how many
times? Um >> and I it's hard it's for me it's it's even hard to say because there's so many good people and I don't want someone to be left out, right? That that has done such a great job. But so many people have done great things, >> you know, at the mound house and for the
town over the last how many years? I it's hard. >> Not enough benches on the mound. People are going to think other people are buried under those benches. So I think too many [laughter] benches is a bad idea. >> Yeah. >> Well, I I was >> just like that. >> I was going to make a motion earlier
that we kind of strike that um D number D under um items for discussion because just because of what we've been going through today and I know um well Carolyn is not here also and I know you know things like that mean a lot to her. So,
I was going to ask if we could table that maybe till January till we get some more information >> and and we'll work on it as as a town. >> Everybody I was gonna say if everybody would give it good thought as to what they would like to see and think about the tree. Think about we could do
anything we wanted really. It wouldn't even have to be a tree. It could be something that res with the moundhouse or the tree could be uniform throughout the town too. So I would like to ask if that's okay just to table that for till next next meeting. >> And can I recommend that everyone take
it on as a homework assignment that they look into some like I I I'll scope out higher ed. I I will contact higher ed institutions and find out there. So pick an industry. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'm assuming they have some naming rights because they get some multi-million dollars >> and I know I know of controversies that
have arisen because of naming of things about people who were still alive. >> Yeah. >> That that's another one. Yeah. And you know, we even had a discussion about new park [laughter] >> that is what makes >> too. So I know I know a lot of people have given it deep thought and I think if we
if we go and try to collect some of those thoughts and then bring it back for art, >> right? If we could do that, bring it back in January. Um think about it over the holidays. Good time to >> I know it's disingenuous, but just thank you to everyone that supported Mount House. How about that? >> Yes. Right. Exactly. [laughter] Exactly.
Yeah. Is there somebody that could uh contact the Edison Ford Estates? Because I do remember about 15 years ago, they had a huge controversy about naming rights because there were plaques on the building and the director that came in who was Chris Pendleton at the time
said, "We've got to professionalize this entire institution." >> You know, there's got to be >> been through it. >> Yeah. You know, there's got to be precedent somewhere. Um and I know municipalities do. And >> yeah, they've had to live with this. So I just want to know what their solution was. Maybe their policy is something we
could model >> that we could that >> it's definitely something to look into because it is it is a touchy subject sometimes. >> Absolutely. >> That would be a good comparison. I think >> but we are like I said we are having the same issue townwide. >> Um thinking about a townwide and advisory boards and that I know MURF
does keep bringing that up. They do have a pretty good program as far as their nominees. Um and and uh so maybe we can look at something like that too. We spent a lot of time when we built the library. >> Sure. >> To because of all of the donations and
>> you know how we dealt with that and uh you know I'll I'll write something up for how we dealt with that. >> Absolutely. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. And then I would like to move on because I don't want I know people have to leave early, but it's very
important that we um vote on our collection management policy. Um I'm going to have um Barbara go through it because she's worked on this for um so long, but we do need to approve it so it can go on to council.
>> Yeah. And I just want to kind of bring up that this was, you know, it was a report by an outside agency. So, >> it it kind of is what it is. So, we can either recommend to approve it or just deny it and and start over. I mean, not start over, but you know, some of the stuff in here, it was a recommendation
from a from a professional. Um, it was a report. So, I just wanted to put that caveat out there that >> Okay. All right. And I know >> deny it or approve it, right? >> But can't we? >> We can talk about it, but >> but I think we can. Um, Barbara, would you like to go over some of the points?
And you said there's some changes also. >> Typographical error. >> There we go. Those kind of things. Definitely. [laughter] >> Well, we had also talked about the things that we we thought were not reported accurately. We would have a create our own response and have it be an addendum.
>> Well, this was Yeah. >> to the collection management. >> No, that was that was to the assessment. Okay. As far as I'm concerned, it was incredibly detailed and um >> um beautifully written. And I want to thank Adam for all of the work that he's
done to professionalize our mount house. This was an incredible document that took a tremendous amount of work. Our map committee not only did this, but a number of other things having to do with governance and operations. But [clears throat] kudos to Adam for
pushing this along and the fact that this was done before he left. >> Right. >> Yeah. And I know I know some of the stuff in there was not easy to read at times, but it was an outside perspective of somebody that had been in this field for a long time and it just, you know, it was you take the good and the bad out
of it. >> Right. Well, it is it it was my profession for about 20 years. >> Exactly. Yeah. I'm very impressed. There was very little if anything that I wanted to keep a mere typo or >> Yeah. Okay. Uh let me just explain too.
We had there's two documents here. What we're talking about today is the collection management policy. Correct. >> And that really does a lot with with Briana and it really addresses us acquiring artifacts, who's responsible, what the policy is.
>> If I may, I'm sorry to interrupt. I I need to go, but if we want to Briana to come up for this this discussion, u I she's way more knowledgeable than I am. So, >> um All right. Thank you all. If you have questions, let me know. >> Happy Thanksgiving. >> See? Yes. Have a good holiday. We won't see you guys till January. >> January. Right.
>> And I'll just clarify that my comments were with regard to not this document. They were to the other documents. >> That's that's what I want to clarify. document. >> I I also want to add, if you don't mind, that I know that Adam uh started um
writing everything, but it was in collaboration with Briana. Uh >> so it was really >> correct. Yeah. And so I think what a lot of us are talking about is the museum assessment program. >> Oh, >> that that's the nice big thick one. And
that is the one where we had all the input and everything that a lot of us had some disagreements with. >> I don't have that one. >> I remember either that >> we didn't get a new one. I mean must have gotten it on your email. >> This was quite a while ago. This was a
year ago. We got this in October here. >> Well, I was here. I wasn't just here last >> but this was last year. >> But this is the one. This was from It was from Yes. So, okay. and Lori Lori will have we'll have to get Lori a copy of that if that's possible.
>> I will email and um but the one that we're doing today is the collection management policy and I've read through it twice and it I think it's it's very well done and it's um pretty much on acquiring um artifacts the policy on if
you loan them if uh people want to uh um if you need to dispose of them. It's got pretty much, I think, everything in here as far as the artifacts and collections. So, this is what we'll be talking about today. So, we need to vote on this so this can go to council.
>> Yes. And I I will add um Adam did start it. I did complete it. Um the last thing that I did to it was added the recommendations that the map reviewer uh asked of me to do. Um I did extensive research into other institutions collections management policy and kudos to Adam. Ours is double the size of most
institutions. So when I tell you it is very detailed, it is extremely detailed. Many other institutions uh big large institutions don't have a policy this detailed. So it was it was really great of Adam to do it this detailed. So I think it covers all bases. I don't have
it memorized. It's been a minute since I've looked at it. I don't have it in front of me right now. [laughter] So I'll I'll take everything you say, you know, and I'll I'll take a look into it. Um, but if anyone has any specific questions about it, you know, I just do my best. >> I'm still trying to memorize the mission. [laughter]
>> There you go. >> But, but I I think it's very well done. And we do need to vote on this. Correct. Is it does it have to be? >> So, >> I'm thinking for the purpose of discussion. >> Yes. I would like to make a motion to accept the collections
management policy that Adam and Briana have collaborated on in conjunction with other people >> and discussion. >> Uh yes, >> we need a second to discuss it. >> I'll second. >> Okay. Okay. Discussion.
>> Okay. Yes. I had a couple of um um issues mostly >> typo typos. There was one on page six. Uh in the last paragraph under conflicts of interest, it's the collection that falls within the moundhouse division.
It's just a T that needs to be added. Just again minor. Um the wording [clears throat] uh in that same paragraph says are prohibitive from actively collecting toward private collections. I think it should read prohibited from actively
building private collections. is just a far smoother um um conversation. So uh and again this is really interesting because it points to the advisory board for being part of the
accessioning and the deexessioning committee which I don't know if you're aware of that but I just thought that was really interesting. So I guess my question is does that mean that that involves all of the people of the advisory board or will there be a selection committee from the advisory
board to serve on the accessions committee? >> I believe that might be a decision that's completely up to you all. Um it is my recommendation that the committee should be a little bit smaller than the current size um just to prevent any you know uh uh too too many chefs in the
kitchen as I like to say. Sometimes it can be a su a snap decision. Other times it does take something a little bit more um you know that warrants a little bit more discussion. So I think a smaller more intimate committee uh comprised of of of anyone on this board would would suffice. >> Okay. >> Is there a certain size you would
recommend? >> I would honestly say three. >> Three. >> I would I would say three so that you know the majority rules um whether to accession or de accession um something. >> I'm happy to hear you say that because that was the number I was think I know. I was thinking that >> it's my favorite number. [laughter] >> Yeah. And that that actual amount
doesn't have to be in this document, but I'm glad to hear you say it would be a selection from the advisory board. That made my that was a question that I had. >> Um, and the forms you had that would be accompanying which is under your
records. That's really extraordinarily well thought out. Congratulations, Briana. >> Thank you. >> Well done. I I can't take the majority of the I mean, Adam really truly put so much into this and did so much research and I just kind of doveetailed on the
end of it and cleaned it up a little bit, added the the the sections that the map reviewer did. So, I I cannot take all the credit, but I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, some of it just a very little tiny portion. Thank [clears throat] you. >> We [laughter] all stand on the shoulders of those that came before us. >> Absolutely. Adam taught me so much. we
were the exact same age, but he's been in this field uh longer than I and he was so instrumental in me uh coming into this field. This is my first job out of grad school. So, he took a he had a lot of faith in me and I I really appreciate it. He taught me so much. So, >> and we and we do too.
>> Thank you. So, >> thank you. Um >> so, the other I'm sorry. >> Go ahead. No, no, no, no. I just have a question. So, go ahead. >> Okay. um with regard to the six inches of soil depth with regard to the appropriate um um um oh yes impact to
our archaeology archaeological site um what about tent stakes what is the rule for that >> we have already asked I'm not I'm not 100% positive as to the the official law about staking something into the ground so far with all of our events that we've
had like moonlight market um they did bring tents and stuff like that we've asked people not to stake anything into the ground because we're an archaeological site just to cover all bases. Um they've been waiting them down, bringing their own sandbag weights and so far that's been that's been working really well. So we'd like to
continue on with that. If we can mitigate as many times as we poke holes into the ground um without, you know, FPAN being there or somebody else, uh that would be great. >> So I know all the tents that have been rented in the years that I've been involved, they they've always they've not been staked. They have they brought
the water barrels. >> I'd like to continue on in that fashion just to cover all bases and make sure we're not doing any damage to >> and then when we start with the landscaping, Briana, and will there be an an archaeologist that would be there to determine the depth, but you will
obviously go down below 6 in? >> Um, we we can probably [clears throat] have a member of that. >> That's what this stipulates. >> I would like that. Um, I'm currently in the process of get obtaining my my registered professional archaeology license. I'm going to be starting the application soon, so hopefully I will be
on staff and stuff to be able to do that myself. Um, but in the meantime, I really would love to have a member of FPAN come out and be there. Uh, whether that's Natalie, um, you know, uh, her counterpart MAL from, um, Atlantic Univers, Florida Atlantic University,
they would also be a wonderful person to to contact. Um, I would like to to really continue our collaboration with FPAN in whatever capacity we can. So if we need to call on them, I think that would be what I would recommend. >> Great. Wonderful. >> That would be great. >> I know that anytime in the past if
anything was dug up or planted or signs or new um wires pulled through the >> there was an archaeologist looking out for it and everything was sifted and >> Yep. >> It's a good thing. >> Yeah, I think it's that's best practices and and that's that is definitely what I would recommend.
>> Okay, those are all the thoughts I had. All set. Okay. Um my one question Briana was it so um kept um mentioning the ma the manager things that had to be signed off and um it was like the u manager of
the moundhouse and then the registar >> right >> and would you be the registar then? >> I am so my official title um you know as an employee of the town of Fort Myers Beach I am officially the museum registar however because we're not an accredited museum we're it's very rare
that we do get donations and stuff. So as of um of back starting back in January, my role sort of shifted to accommodate more collections management. So I've kind of sort of taken on the the title of collections manager uh more more wholeheartedly than registar. But
in my official capacity, I am the town's museum registar. So but yes, I would I would be the same. >> Okay. Any any more discussion on on the moundhouse the collection management policy? We have um a motion and it's
been seconded um to accept I believe the collection management policy and then send it on to uh council >> with changes >> and with the with the amended changes. [laughter] >> Um so all in favor or do I
>> I Okay. All right. That's >> accomplished. Perfect. >> Unanimous. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you. >> I know. You did [laughter] a good job. Keep us moving. >> I know. So good. Yep. That's my
>> That's my my motus. [laughter] >> Operation. >> Thank you so much. Thank you. >> Okay. Then we will Yes. >> I'm sorry. I do have a question with regard to the collection with regard to the documents that have been missing. >> Uh what is the status on getting those
returned? >> I have not had anyone talk to me about it personally. Um, I would love to have them back in hand or even just a copy of them just something to it would make my life easier so I can really fully get
started on the official cataloging. Um, it is a little bit of a hindrance but I am currently cataloging with the information I do have but as of like the legal status and where it is in I have not been told anything. There's Am I
correct in hearing that that is actually in litigation with regard to getting those documents back? >> From what I last heard, yes, some moves were being made towards it, but I also was not privy to those conversations. I don't know. >> I just needed some clarification on that
because that is so vital for the work that you're doing. It's really sort of the motherload of >> the nucleus of getting that uh properly documented. And I can actually explain that just a little bit further um to what I'm struggling with. Um typically during archaeological excavations, a
very detailed catalog um is kept um for the field and then given to the lab in order to process the the artifacts a little later. I have information on each of the grab bags that the artifacts are in. It tells me the date, the level, um even the initials of the people who
literally plucked it out of the ground. Um and it has numbers on it. um that indicate the um collection itself. We have about five or six different excavations that took place here. Um sometimes simultaneously uh especially
during the restoration process um and unfortunately without those original documents, it's very difficult for me to uh even place like a timeline um when these excavations took place and what exactly I'm even looking at. Sometimes those markings on those bags, I don't
know what they mean without those cataloges. It's almost like looking at a map without a legend, >> right? Cross references and stuff like that. Also, sometimes, you know, it's been 25 years since a lot of these artifacts were pulled from the ground. And the bags, unfortunately, never being rehoused. You are supposed to rehouse
artifacts every 2 to four years. Um, and so it's been 25 years. And these bags are sometimes hard as stone. And when I was opening them individually for the tenting process, they were disintegrating in my hands. Um it was very distressing. Um and so [clears throat] that information that's
on that bag is now lost because I don't have those cataloges that tell me what was on the bags. Um so I'm doing everything that I can with what I have. Um it would just be wonderful to have those original documents and start putting the puzzle pieces together. What happened during those um excavations?
What was gathered during that? Um, and so I could start putting that into catalog it, which is our digital database that I plan to use for the cataloging of the collection. Um, so that's just why I really would love the the cataloges, you know, just to give a little bit more insight into what I'm looking at. Um, but I'm I am working
with what I have right now to the best of my ability. Um, that there's an extensive amount of documents in our collection. Uh, you know, newspaper articles, uh, going back all the way to 1995. I have every single one. Um, so if you haven't come to see what's in our
collection in the APC, please come. I'm happy to take you through and show you what we do have. So, yeah. [snorts] >> Okay. Thank you. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. And then also just um when Brianna first came on board, you were out in the storage area for I don't know how long. >> Six months.
>> Yeah. >> Six months. >> So, we thank you very very much, Brianna. And we'll be by to see you. And also, if you want, you can be excused or you can stay with us if you want. I will stay because Karina is my ride. [laughter] But >> yay,
>> I am h I I can go sit back out in the audience if you don't have anymore. Thank you so much. >> Thank you very very much. Um let's move on then to uh the strategic plan and that's always a biggie. Um we need to set a date and to work on and my
question is do we want a new strategic plan or can we take the one that we have and revise it? I would recommend that we start with it and then in our as one of our first activities when we when we meet is to
determine if we need to or not. >> If we need to or not. >> And I actually have it. So, and reading through it, I mean, I think it's pretty it covers a lot, but there does need some updating on it.
>> A lot. [laughter] It's been five years. >> Yeah, it's been five years. >> Four years. in any event soon to be 5 years. But I think what we were looking at was dovetailing this plan with the town's strategic plan. And if you
remember when we had the um um assistant town manager give a a chat um and introduce herself. She wasn't even aware that we as the moundhouse even had a plan. Same thing with Borat. So now that
they're [clears throat] >> aware that we do have a strategic plan, it's hopelessly out of date. We want to make sure that they're aware of it, that they dubtail what our goals and long-term and short-term goals are with what the town is also committed to
doing. So uh that we work with the town that we dubtail some of these goals into their goals. I think that's the next order. But obviously the level of detail will have to come from the strategic planning
efforts that the moundhouse that the uh cellcap would do. I would prefer now to wait until our museum manager comes in when we have our new staff person because with as I've seen in the past
[clears throat] with every change of leadership there are different priorities, >> right? Mhm. >> So, I'd hate to second guess [clears throat] >> I'd hate to second guess what the new director would be interested in um in
accomplishing. So, um >> we've we've come a long way from the original strategic plan, that professionalizing of the um uh documents and also the policies and going for the MAP program that was in our strategic
plan for our long-term goal. We are well on our way to achieving that and that'll certainly remain but we have many more things as as you mentioned we've got this incredible AI technology now and how is that going to serve our members
our visitors our um social media um all of that operations so yes that was not in our original strategic plan but that becomes on the top >> that's true >> absolutely >> well then can I have a motion then maybe
in that regard that we uh wait then for a >> so basically table it. >> Well, yeah, we can either table it or Okay, that would be we'll just table it and wait till a manager comes on board and we can because that's a pretty important document and uh so okay,
excellent. Everyone's in agreement on that. Um we I did somewhat want a table like I said D um just because there's so much and we really have we really have talked about it quite a bit. Um is there we're
not going to make any decisions but um as long as we does anybody want to add anything to it and I like I said with work assignments think about how we can honor um our cherished people. I just
shouldn't we wait for the town policy on this? >> Exactly. Exactly. So, there's several things we have to wait on >> and um and we have pretty well covered the loop road. Does anybody have anything else on that? My preference was to put it on the gate.
>> So, but we can any >> and you do we please >> Yeah. >> Ellen is you're going to talk to to Michael and find out what their preference would be about the actual wording. >> Yes. Yes, I I would actually I will do that. >> Perfect. [clears throat] So then we can come back in January in January and make
recommendations. >> And having gone to the sunshine law policy, I will call Mike and I will put it in an email. I'll send it to to Amy Baker and then she can distribute >> and she can do Okay. Excellent. >> Oh, okay. >> That makes it that makes it on the record. >> Appreciate that. Okay. >> Excellent. All right. Um Oh, the
moundhouse landscape enhancement with native species. Whoa, Karina, are we [laughter] just >> Well, we do have TDC funding for um to start that project. We have not started yet, but we are in discussions with
Seth. He's our maintenance person and uh we'll start looking into this, you know, whatever we need and um and what we're going to start planting. >> Okay. >> So, >> and you can bring it. >> I'm I'm sorry. Did what what are we
waiting for? Uh, we're just um just working with Seth. We're we're not waiting. We're just working with him to um >> David Sachs. >> No, no. Seth um Jacobs, he's our maintenance person. Um so that we can
start hiring uh or finding this uh different plants and what, you know, the decisions on what we're going to plant and what we're going to do. >> He's looking at me like, [laughter] "Go ahead, Becky. Do we still have the original landscape
plan by David Saxs? >> We are looking at it. Uh yeah, actually Brianna wants to talk to you a little bit about it. >> Great. >> I have every single binder that went into both the houses restoration and the landscape plan. Uh so all there's I
think four binders in total regarding the landscape plan. They are in the APC. So um I am happy to deliver those if anyone needs to refer to those. Can we put that on on our January agenda that you can make that presentation and give us copies of what we've already
accomplished and what still needs to be done as far as that master plan and maybe some recommendations? >> Sure. For for native plants and species about what was done before to embellish what we've >> already uh installed, but more importantly those that were damaged and
destroyed during >> what we had before, what we'd like to have again. Yes, I can definitely look through those binders and see what we see those previous plans for sure. >> I think we also need to have a discussion because that original plan held the medicinal and scientific garden
>> and is that something we are going to continue because that is not at all native. Um, but there were some really interesting things >> like the moringa and the anado and the >> tropha is not
>> the K-pop tree which didn't do well. So, I'm not recommending that we plant one of those again. Okay. Well, I I would think that as if we look at as we look at that plan that had been proposed or had been implemented, we look at what survived >> Ian because the likelihood of another
submersion is not out of the realm of possibilities. >> Thank you, Alan. Correct. >> You have to have I think the operative word here now based on our horrible experiences over the last four years is that we have to have every plant salt tolerant. Mhm. >> And submersion
>> and that would be [laughter] right and that [clears throat] would be the operative, you know, that would be the decision as to whether we do or do not. Um, and I would say that most of the native species that are already on the grounds have been well adapted to that new environment.
>> It's a beautiful place every day when I come to work. So, I believe you. Um, I can definitely work with Emily, our education coordinator. She has a degree in environmental science. So, maybe she has some clarification. I don't know anything about plants. Um, so I will do my best, but I do have all four of those
binders from the original plan. So I will go through those and um I can seek further clarification uh from anyone who if I need it. >> Great. >> And so I wanted to share some some information that I had obtained by talking to various people and the and the Eststerero Island Garden Club
>> has a they have developed a list of plants that have survived >> being submerged. Okay, because I think that's critical. And one of the one of the informationational pieces that was pointed out to me by many members of that that group is that you need to be very careful as to where you acquire
materials because many things have been adapted >> and they are not as tolerant as the natives. So you need to go to a source where they're going to be able to identify whether this is a hybrid or this is not. And and Barbara, I take your point, but
I wonder, you know, about salt salt tolerance, but I wonder how many things would be advantageous to have maybe planted in a different spot that were destroyed by the flooding. Um, so you know, if we went with things that
were not salt salt tolerant, there would be no mango trees, no banana trees, no >> That's true. I mean that we would be mi we might be missing a whole lot which would be worthwhile just plant them in a different place. >> That's what I was going to mention was
we we had that area with the fruit trees, the banana trees and things that people had used in the past and people really enjoyed that that you know so I would like to see that incorporated >> in the landscape. Maybe that needs to just be factored in that a certain
percentage of things like it was called the kitchen garden, right? That you you acknowledge that if there is a flooding, we will lose the kitchen garden >> and that whether or not >> how you want to handle it, but I think that should be a discussion point. And the same thing with the medicinal
garden, right? >> I will put it on my list to find those binders and say good >> the original plan. [laughter] And and the the other thing I'm thinking is that is more Emily's area of expertise and maybe it should be a collaborative effort >> and you could just show her the binders
and >> Sure. [laughter] >> And Seth Seth is very knowledgeable about those things as well. So I'm sure it can be a team collaborative effort to figure out what needs to be planted and what was originally there um versus what can be substituted to make it better.
Great. And I hope we're not overstepping B, you know, Karina's role as [clears throat] as interrum manager because obviously, you know, you're running the show there. So hopefully all of this will be helpful to you. >> Absolutely. Everything's good. Yes.
>> Yeah. Good. And we with all your good ideas. So she's got she's got some really great ones. So and thank you, Brianna. And we're putting a lot of work on you. And January [clears throat] is going to be uh we're going to have a lot on our plate in January. So, um okay,
we're going to if that's all right to everyone, we're going to move on to member items. Will >> the underground? >> Did I Oh, did I miss an underground? Oh, dear. We did. The interpretive panel for the underground. Thank you. >> Um >> do you have an update on that? >> Right. That's
>> um right now we did remove the sign that was inside the Underground Museum, but uh and we were thinking about putting it outside. However, the the word the word is really outdated. So, we're not we
don't want to do that. So, we are looking into uh creating new um exhibit panels >> um I guess temporarily. And uh we'll present those to you as soon as as we come up with with with some something
>> with wording. Is that what you're saying? You're going to come up with >> uh >> a draft. >> A draft. Correct. >> Okay. >> A draft that you'd present at our January meeting, >> right? >> Yes. >> And would that be for discussion or is that a decision as a staff person that
you already make? Well, we'll um I believe we'll present it as um discussion and um yeah, so that you can >> but we still have so many and I know something if it's okay to mention something that Karina mentioned to me um
was she was thinking about um oh virtual reality on what the underground was like which I thought was great >> a great idea and something for us to consider. Yes. >> So I think that would would really help
the situation [clears throat] a lot. >> Absolutely. >> So and at a meeting a previous meeting actually I think it's come up at the last two meetings we talked about having just um a vinyl panels made so that they could go over so people could see what what it looks like in there. Right. And
that I did we have a motion and suggest that that be funded? >> The problem with that is that it's really dark in there and uh even if we put like a a vinyl uh a clear uh window
to the underground museum, you won't be able to see anything >> pictures. This was an image that they just shoot an image. >> Oh yes. Yes. Yes. Actually the one that we have of what it used to look like. >> Yes. >> Just bake that into a banner and put it on the door. >> Put it on somewhere. Put it on.
>> That's Yes, absolutely. That's something we can do. >> There have to be some old pictures with even the ribbon lights in there which show the >> We have excellent pictures. >> We could get in. We could get recommendations. >> All kinds of pictures. [laughter] >> There's a picture in the new volunteer handbook that contains said image.
>> Absolutely. Yes. >> So, what I've been doing when visitors come and who uh you know, we're getting recurring visitors right now back to the island. So, obviously, they haven't been since uh Ian, um what I have really found helpful is showing them the picture in Pat's book of what the what the underground used to look like. And
then, uh right after Helen, I and Milton, I took um a picture of what it looks like currently. So, I'm really using that, especially when I do sit at the desk um or just walk around the museum. I'm using that as an opportunity to show people this is what it used to look like. This is what it looks like
currently. This is the effects of hurricane and when that whole chamber you know floods to the ceiling, it destroyed the electrical um you know capabilities in there as well. Um and and get to show the opportunity of how much sloughing is occurring on the mound and where it has collapsed in in a
couple of places you know and why it is at threat. Um and that seems that visual aid really seems to be helping people especially those who are you know a little disappointed after coming back. Um, so I figured that would be a really amazing opportunity to put on the doors of the underground uh the before and
after picture with some text, you know, uh between uh discussing what happened to the underground. It is part of the history of moundhouse now and it is something I really would like to highlight and explore. Um it happened and this is how we're moving forward from it. This is how we can and other
institutions who you know may have a shell mound as well. It's a learning opportunity for them on how to progress that kind of exhibit. Um, and what I like to also tell visitors is just because that kind of exhibit, potentially a walk-in exhibit, may never return due to the various obstacles that
we do face, um, it doesn't mean it won't give rise to a new kind of interpretive exhibit like the the virtual reality one where we can still educate people on the mound, uh, the layers of it, how it was built, and why it's so unique and amazing and why we need to preserve these things. Um, so those are just a
couple of my ideas. So I'd be more than happy to start figuring out what panels, what text we can use. I'd like to discuss, you know, the history of the excavation as well. Um, people, the history of the swimming pool, you know, when it was installed, when it was removed, why it was removed, the opportunity that it did present to the
people and what we face currently in this field, and what archaeologists today are currently facing all over Florida with this, you know, consistent flooding and hurricane opportunity. Hey, you're doing so much. Thank you. >> That's something I'm very passionate about and I do believe that it does need to be explored and shared with the
people who do come all this way to see us. Um, it's part of our history and I'd like to I'd like to showcase it. >> That'd be great. Yeah. The underground has been so special to us that and such a big part of the moundhouse that Thank you. We need we need to address it.
>> Excellent. Any more on the underground? >> No, that's it. I I want to build a glass house inside so that you open the doors and you can go in about six or eight feet, but look all around and you're sheltered and you've got air to breathe
and things like that. Even if it's as destroyed as it is, >> you get the feel for it. I I agree. I would love to see something like that. But >> uh the Okamogi Mounds where I did my internship, they have their earth lodge there. They actually have something that's very similar to that. Um they
it's uh a plexiglass um well it's just a regular boardwalk up to it and then the whole entrance is actually encased in plexiglass and they actually have a intercom speaker that tells the story of the earth lodge. Um I do highly recommend taking a look on the national park service website about it and doing
research into that earth lodge and how they interpret it. Um it was absolutely incredible to see. Um and it does you know prevent anybody. Only issue with the underground like Karina did say it is completely pitch black. I mean you cannot see anything. Um and the only
worry I know that that uh engineers you know and myself also have is putting some kind of lights in there since the chamber does flood occasionally. It would just damage the lights again. So that's just the one thing that I feel like we have to to figure out. Um I feel
like that's the only hindrance that we're really facing is how to light it up from within without electrocuting ourselves. >> Yeah. So can you would you say the name of the The site where this earth lodge exists. >> I'd like to try. >> Oh, yes. Oki. >> Could you spell that for us?
>> Close. Close. >> O C M U L G E. >> Yes, that's it. I can't spell out of thin air. O L G E O L. >> Yes. Okamogi Mounds National Historic Park in Mon, Georgia. It is actually the home of the very first visitor center of
the National Park Service. It is in the 1920s art deco version. And it is actually another reason why I got into cultural resource management because I had to um do a lot of emergency uh preparations when a lot of things
happened to that out of you not out ofd but uh older uh visitor services. It it is worth a trip up there. It's amazing what the National Park Service has done with that. So I would look to them if you would like to do something like that in the future. I think they're a really great example.
>> That would be a good trip for us to take. Oh, >> could I'm sorry, Brianna. Could you spell that again? >> Sure. As we probably could. >> OC M U L G >> M U L I know that because I was a potter in my former life and we always would
have to go to Okulgi, Georgia to get our clay. >> Yes, the best clay. [laughter] I had no clay, but >> those Oki mounds are um uh they are, you know, Georgia clay and and those wereerary mounts. So, they are an amazing thing. They have their own
history. One of them was cut directly into uh for railroad construction and a lot of that was lost. Um a lot of that history and those artifacts and and um it's an incredible site. So highly recommend taking >> Oh, that would be wonderful. Do you do you know what happened to the one up in
Sarasota? I >> actually don't I I'm not positive with it. >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to have to check on that. No, the um Oh, I always forget the name. So I know it's the Palmer House one. Oh, >> they have an underground exhibit. >> Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah, >> we went up there as a day trip. Wow. >> Yeah, we did. >> It's Osprey Point. >> Osprey. >> Well, it could be Osprey Point, but isn't there a seven? >> Oh, historic Spanish Point. >> Spanish Point. >> Historic Spanish Point. >> Spanish Point. >> Spanish Point. >> Spanish Point. I know what you're talking about. [clears throat]
>> From what I understand, from what Adam told me and and a few other people, they are currently um also struggling in some capacity with that shell mound as well. Um I I haven't been to it just yet, but um they're they're also struggling with the similar problems that our mound is
>> struggling because they were right by the water. >> And not only that, they weren't affected by Ian, but they were certainly affected by Helen. >> Milton went right in. >> So that whole area was flooded. So be interesting to know what they're >> how they're protecting and what they're doing >> what they're doing.
>> I think Adam was trying to pursue uh communication with them to try to figure things out. You know, how are they doing it? What's the best move? I know FPAN was also working with them as well um from what I understand. So yeah, there there's options. >> Okay, great. >> There's options. >> Okay, thank you. That's that that gives
us hope. [laughter] >> Okay, now we will do unless there's anything more. >> Uh we will go to um member items. Um Carrie, you want to start? >> I can start. >> Um I will definitely read through for our next meeting the other plan that I
got to find. So I'll definitely keep that on top of that and if I don't have it, then I'll let you guys know. But I don't I remember us all talking about it. But for some reason I will find that. Um other than that um I hope everybody has a happy holiday and I >> that's it.
>> Okay. Thank you. Okay, Laura. >> Well, I'm just so happy to be back at CellCAB after um >> a hiatus. [laughter] >> So many years. You know, Ian just chased me off the island for a few years. Uh,
but fortunately I'm back in my home and back at Cellcap and I'm very happy about that. >> And we welcome you. So are we. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Welcome back. >> Welcome back. >> Thank you. >> And um yeah, I think it was a very productive meeting and we got a lot of work to do. >> Yes, we do. January is going to be a
biggie. [laughter] >> There's nothing else to report. >> Okay. Thanks, Barbara. Alice, >> actually, I have two items. I'm I'm here to report from being the chief fundraiser at the Friends of the Moundhouse that we have an event scheduled for January 31st and it's a murder mystery dinner
>> and it will be held in a professional acting crew that we have hired. >> Cool. >> And um the theme will be I don't remember the exact title, but it's basically based on on Miami in the 1980s. So there'll be a costume contest. >> Oh, >> great.
>> And tickets will be $150 a person. will include a a served dinner >> and and a cocktail and we then we will have a cash bar as well. >> Um but because this is a fundraiser, hence the cash bar. >> You said January 30th. >> J 31st. This Saturday, the last Saturday.
>> And where are you having this? >> It's not No, it's at Diamond Head. >> At Diamond Head. >> And at Diamond Head because we're hoping to have 100 people and as we well know there is no fully open space to house 100 people on one level at the house. >> Right. Excellent. in the Mountain House
will be prominently included in all the promotion material. >> Oo, that's going to be fun. >> Tell me the theme. A costume party of Miami. >> No, it it it's a murder myster it's like a you know like the murder mysteries that they do on trains, right? >> This is like that only the the theme of
the murder mystery will be Miami craziness of the 1980s and you'll be encouraged 1980s and you'll be encouraged to dress in 1980s attire which you probably >> wear cocaine. [laughter] cocaine earrings.
[laughter] >> Oh, that's perfect. Just like Don Johnson. >> And tickets will be available for sale um on >> well, we'll connect it to the Mountain House website and it's going to be on social media. The company we've hired, Gibson Players, has a large social media
presence, so they're helping us promote it. So, as soon as we get the tickets all organized, excellent. It'll be out to go. >> Excellent. Excellent. And if we if we sell out at a hundred, we'll see if Diamond Head can give us more space. >> Give us more. Excellent. Yay. That sounds great. >> And then my next point is um Natalie,
who is with FPAN, um really is very interested in us um given the outcome of the election, she's not on. Can we set up is is it is it appropriate, Madam Chair, to invite a member of FPAN to come a standing item to our board to our
meetings and set aside a slot so that we can ask them questions? I don't know why not. >> You know that that I think is an excellent excellent idea, Ellen. And you know, we all had um >> Bill Grace is our historic advisor in a
non voting capacity and he was wonderful at bringing us the information we needed from a historical point of view. So why would Natalie not be as value added? So rather would be the historic historic non- voting member. She would be the
FPAN non- voting member. >> Correct. >> That would be wonderful. >> What a resource. >> Well, if she's interested in volunteering her time to do this. >> And you know what? My microphone wasn't on the entire time I was speaking about that. >> Mine wasn't either. I'm sorry.
>> All right. So, we're gonna go over this from the top when I was pantomiming. [laughter] And I will just say briefly that about the fundraiser. There is a fundraiser that will be held at Diamond Head on January 31st and it will be a murder mystery dinner and the theme will
be the 1980s Miami. So think Miami Viceish kind of time frame and there will be a costume contest. So and tickets are $150 a person and that includes a serve dinner and one cocktail and it's only one cocktail for included in your ticket price because it's a fundraiser.
>> Great. And then my more ser well more focused on cellcap Natalie from FPAN has expressed a very strong interest in participating with cell cab and so I wondered if it would be appropriate to ask her to be a standing
being a standing >> I'm not phrasing it right I said before >> advisor >> well because I just said can she come to our meetings and offer advice as appropriate and Barbara I'll said turn it over to you >> okay Um actually she could sort of be
the archaeological adviser although we have we have B >> who's you know really sort of serving in that capacity if she would come and it wouldn't have to be every month but maybe three or four times a year come
and fill us in on what FPAN is doing. So she would be the FPAN uh liaison if you will as an advisor to kind of give us a sense of where we fit into the scope of the important that we're work we're doing on the statewide level.
>> And how about if we invite her to have a scheduled time to come, but if something comes up where she thinks we need to know, we invite her to come out of schedule. >> Absolutely. And again, this is a a volunteer um role that she would play
and that would be her call as to what time she would be available. But yes, that would be sort of a standing representative from FPAN that could come and keep us uh a breast of the trends in archaeology in the state of Florida.
>> Great, great, good suggestion. Okay. Um the tree Oh. How could I miss that? >> At the Christmas tree festival, the friends of the moundhouse will have a wonderful six- foot tall white tree. And
I'm going to turn it over to Sherry, the the creator of said tree. >> Okay. The name of the tree, the the theme this year is Sandy Lands Candy Land. >> A >> A You like that? >> I do. >> So good. [laughter]
>> Yeah. And it's that brilliant. Thank you. >> Thank you. [laughter] She's brilliant every year with these tree names. So, we've we've got all the basics and I'm just waiting to put on the c when I'm waiting for the Christmas candy to come out in the colors and we're going to
make little trees out of Reese's pieces and that kind of stuff. But, um the dates are the 12th and the 13th of December, >> right? >> And so, on Friday it kicks off at um if you do the VIP ticket, it's at 4. Otherwise, it's 5:30 and it's at Margaritavville.
>> Margaritavville >> and the trees are going to be inside because Sherry was a little concerned that they were going to be out on the sunset terrace and blow right. >> And I will also say putting on my fundraising hat again. I'm about a few keystrokes away from sending out a fundraising letter to all of the
businesses on the island asking for gift cards for Sher to be able to put to on the tree. >> I'm calling them sugar plums. [laughter] A >> Barbara, it's >> adorable. It really is. Thank you. Thank you. >> So, and I also put us down for a wreath
and most we're going to do one. >> We'll figure out a wreath. >> Yeah, exactly. >> So, we'll have two items and as people may be aware, the bidding for the the trees and the wreath is online. >> It's online >> and there's a buy now price. So, hopefully we're very lucky and raise a lot of money.
>> Yeah, probably do a thousand again. All right. Um, Becky, I just want to ditto [clears throat] everybody's remarks and say it's been a wonderful meeting and thank you Sherry, thank you Barbara for all of your Thank you, Briana, thank you Karina [laughter]
for keeping us open and going >> and everybody else, happy holidays. >> Okay, thank you. All right. Um, nope. Well, we have public, but I think anything else, Briana? No. All right. Um
then um and my only comment is um we'll meet we're not meeting in December, but we'll meet in January and I believe it's the 15th. >> It's the 22nd. >> The 22nd. Oh, >> January 22nd. >> Okay. >> Wait, what was it? I'm sorry.
>> January 22nd, 1:00 here. Again, we're going to have quite an agenda. So, it won't be >> Thursday. >> Um yes, it's usually the fourth Thursday like we had. We had to move it, I think, because of the holiday. That was >> Oh, that's that's that's it. I I'm gonna
just add we've dumped a whole lot of stuff on Briana who I have to say I've just seen the collections thing which Adam and then she helped with but also she did a volunteer um handbook which is very very detailed and she's got a real
job to do upstairs in the APC [laughter] >> and my thought is that if things get to be too much you know we're going to see you in February and March and April probably too, >> right? So, so don't feel pressured.
>> Yeah. How's that? >> Yeah. We're very We're flexible. >> That's a course on most things. >> That That's of course depending on Karina. Karina's the one who's going to tell her whether she's coming or not. >> Yeah. >> Just so you know what our v wishes are. Karina. >> Absolutely.
>> Oh my gosh. Um Okay. Um at this time, can I have a motion to adjourn? >> I so move. >> Okay. A motion has been made. [clears throat] It is. as we are adjourned at 2:42. >> Good job. >> Thank you.