Wait, wait till she's got the light on. >> Not yet. And you can also It'll give you a thumbs up. >> See, I think it's the light. >> I thought it was up here. Correct. >> Mhm. >> No, no, no. It'll be here. >> It's that one. >> The big the big >> but it's got the little There it is. Okay. >> Right there.
>> You're now live. >> We're now live. Okay. Um, call I'd like to call to order. It is 1:02 p.m. on February 26th to um the cell cab um meeting. And first we will have the
pledge of allegiance. Please. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>> Okay. and roll call please. Okay. Um Caroline want to start. >> Caroline, >> Ellen Vaughn, >> Sher Smith, >> Barbara Hill, >> Becky Warner, >> Becky Warner,
>> Karina Britz, >> and I guess we have what? Lori Wolf is not here. Is she Did she call you? Lori. >> Lori. Lori Wolf. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Um, well,
has everyone read the minutes from um >> Okay, Carrie. >> Oh, where is Carrie? Oh, hi Carrie. >> Hi. I said Carrie Henderson. Sorry. >> We do. >> Yeah, I think we have to consensus to
allow her to join us via Zoom. >> All right. Do I have a consent to allow Carrie to join us by Zoom? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Okay. Hi, Carrie. >> Hi. >> Want to check in? Hi. >> Okay. We do have quum then, so we're
good. Um, has everyone read the minutes from um this would be December. >> Yes. >> Do you have the November? >> And if anyone has any uh corrections or amendments, >> she's got the original.
>> I'll give you a few minutes to look them over because I think some just got them. >> They usually come attached along with your report. >> Okay. >> As part of the package and I have the agenda. >> Okay. >> I had mine attached to my email.
>> Yeah. But then we November. It was in November. >> It was November. >> Yeah. We didn't meet in December. >> Oh, that's right. We passed in December and we did not meet in uh >> January. >> January due to personal reasons. So, >> um, does anyone have any corrections or would you like a minute to read it if
read through? >> Nobody else has a copy. >> Don't have a copy. >> Oh, >> okay. Well, >> I have two copies. >> Okay. Why don't we >> I didn't have any corrections. No corrections. >> I didn't either. I did not have any corrections. >> Okay. Nor did I.
>> Okay. Nor did I. Nor did I. I read it on online. So, >> yeah, I did, too. But I just wanted to review it. Um, looks good. >> I'll move it. >> I I'll make the motion to accept.
>> Okay. Ellen Vaughn has made the motion to accept the minutes. >> Second >> and a second by Carolyn. All in favor? >> I >> I Okay. Um, public comment. This is exciting. We have people in the
audience. Come on up. >> Can we take a little turn on? >> Yeah. There we go. >> One of the comments is about the moundhouse uh and the underground exhibit. Uh the first time I went, I was thrilled. Anytime I had a visitor on the island, I would always bring them there.
To me, it was the most important part of the Moundhouse is to see the history of this island. Uh, one of the other meetings you were talking about how expensive it would be to repair it and get it going. It doesn't have to be. There's a couple things you can do. I gave you a handout. The underground low voltage lighting is extremely
inexpensive. You don't need all the code variations and everything else in order to do that. You can even do it with portable lighting. As far as the wall and the structure and a collapse, you can inject there's there's a vinyl that could be injected in the ground to support that wall so it wouldn't collapse. I think you could do both of
those for under $20,000 and have the thing open and running again. And I I'd like to see you guys look into it because I really think the underground exhibit should be reopen. >> Second thing I want to talk about >> there were materials that were in our packet. Is it this? >> Yes. Yes. Just some information type of
lighting and a lot of museums are using that type of lighting. >> Okay. >> Right now um it's low voltage so you don't have to have all the electrical worry about wiring and someone getting electrocuted and all that. It's low voltage. The same thing you see into a camper or a motor home. It's 12 volts.
You could touch it all day long and you're not going to get shocked. So, you don't have to worry about flooding and the dangers that are involved with it. >> Fantastic. >> Second thing I want to talk about was Newton Park because nothing's going on. It's been three and a half years. Um, the last I heard talking to Jeff is they're talking about putting a
mitigation wall a wall there. Now, mitigation. They already have a wall there. Uh, a lot of these people don't realize it. Um, eight or nine years ago, they put in a brand new 10- foot deep brake wall that's there. That's how deep it is. And
it's brand new. I've got a picture of it. You could see after Hurricane Irma, the sand all got washed away, but the wall did it was supposed to. There's no reason to wait to do something with the wall. Plus, you have all the plants and all that there right now. I don't think there's any reason why we shouldn't be
started on that. I know the money was approved over a year ago. I know we went out for bids bids just for the contractor finally this summer and we just keep dragging our feet on it and I don't see any reason why we're doing that. >> That's all I have to say. >> Thank you, Joe. >> Thank you, Jeff.
>> I didn't recognize you without your wig. >> Can I make a comment real quick? This is the first I've heard of this wall and I've been to all the meetings. So, I mean, why all of a sudden have we not I've not heard about that at all? Because I would have said the exact same
thing Joe did because before they put all that sand out there and all that silly grass is going to be gone anyway. Before they did that, you could see the wall is plain as day. There was nothing wrong with that wall. >> Should I get him to come turn this up? >> So why is this I'm on this board and why
is that the first time I've heard of that from Joe right now? >> You're not the only one. >> All right. Thank you. So I I I actually ran into Joe and encouraged him to come to this meeting and it dawned on me that there may not be records in the town that this wall exists. I have a vague
recollection of it being installed. I know Allison was here and I know that there was the work was going on and there was some discussion among among civilians like myself as to whether or not it was appropriate to put it in. Um but it was there. So I'm not sure if
those records got lost >> if you don't mind. Oh, go ahead, please. >> Thanks, Joe. Yeah, we we do know about the wall, actually. Yeah, I appreciate that. Jeff did bring it to my attention not long ago. It's not what's holding up the Newton Park project, if that's part
of the question. >> So, actually on Monday's town council meeting, you'll see one of the agenda items is uh for the town council to approve me to begin negotiations with an engineering and design firm for Newton Park. Bring it back. I know it's taken a
long time. It's taken years. Uh, one of the challenges with CDBGDR funding is the process that you have to go through. You know, even after they award the funding, which funnels through the state and then through the county. Um, after all that happens, then there's
the process of everything that we would normally do for a project in the town then has to go back up for approval by county, you know, for them to release the funds. We've done that. The the team has done a terrific job. So, uh, it went out for bid. Three different contractors for design and engineering. We've the
committee for selection selected one, recommended to me. I'm going to ask council for the approval to negotiate with them. Uh, after that approval is granted, it'll it'll take a short time because they've done works for us before. And then they'll begin the design and engineering for, you know,
proposals that would come back to us uh on what uh what they recommend for a rebuild of Newton Park. And then after after that's approved, >> how much are we talking this is going to cost? >> We got $3.2 million for our beautiful
park there that everyone's still using all the time. So I I'd like to know how much does this cost this this wall? >> Well, yeah, there's there right now a wall is not a part of the Newton Park rebuild. You know, there there's a wall
as discussed there there's a wall, >> you know, that was built in the past there, you know, and it goes down well down into the ground and it's it's uh it blends in with the natural scenery and everything and and that w will continue to be there. Further projects down the road for the town of a wave mitigation
wall in different sections which has been discussed um is not part of this project. Those are that's a separate discussion. if that if those projects go forward, we will try to integrate those in with existing, you know, um walls and dunes and so forth. Um but we haven't
that's that's a different project. For the Newton Park project specifically, you know, uh right now the wall is not going to be a part of it. They're going to rebuild. They're going to redesign uh the park. After the redesign and engineering is done, it'll come back uh for approval. We'll have to go again and
get the approval through the CDBGDR process. And then uh after that's processed, then we would move to to another contracting process for the you know the company that'll build it for us. So it's still, you know, it's still, you know, a while out till we see a
complete Newton Park, but I I feel really good we're actually starting the process. We've got an engineering firm. >> I have a question. Will, thank you for that. Um during that process of that coming back to you, >> what part of CellCAB is part of that
conversation? >> Right. Yeah, that's a great question. Um, I'll have to follow up with Jeff. I know he has the intention, you know, as they go through that process, uh, to get as much feedback and input as possible into that before. So, I'll I'll I'll run that back up to Jeff and recommend
>> I know Jeff has a great working relationship with all of you. So, um, I'll let him know that you've asked the question and >> Okay, and it's going to be a little while. >> We did a landscape, >> right? We did um years ago. you provided some obviously had worked with I believe
it was Dover Cole the the urban planning to come up with a plan and that was the plan that was supposed to be the Am I right Carrie that was the original plan here on our agenda. I'm just kind of confused why we even have this board
when we have these meetings and then it seems like we are always going back to something else. I I mean I'm starting to get very frustrated and maybe the town we need to have a meeting with the the town on this. I don't I don't even understand why we have this board us
ladies and gentlemen spend all this time every month and we prepare ourselves for meetings. We want to make sure we're in attendance for it but then nothing has happened. >> Okay. So if you could be more specific as to what part of the process we're not
even we just approved a design and engineering company. So they're not they haven't even started well we have we've we've selected one that I will start negotiations with to enter into a contract with >> we approved that over a year ago. >> Mhm.
>> Not not this not to have a contract for a design and engineering company. No I mean you might have approved if you're talking about what you just what Miss Hill just briefed me as far as a the you know >> a landscape plan >> a design a landscaping design you know which could be incorporated into this.
I'm not aware of that. I'll ask Jeff about it to make sure that that all of that is, you know, part of the his, you know, when he when they start working on actually engineering and designing. Right now, this is just to hire them to do that work.
>> Can you explain what the engineering design means? Exactly. What What do you guys have to do? What does the engineer design have to do then? Explain that. Well, so what that we have to do before you even get to a build phase is the architects and engineers and landscaping
architects and engineers. And I realize if one has already been done, I'll ask Jeff about that to make sure that we don't duplicate our efforts here. So, you know, as much as possible, they're going to have to design the whole lot. You know, all of the architecture, all the design for what the structures are
going to be, what the landscaping is going to be, what the engineering work is going to be on the lot itself before they even start building. Okay. So, I'm going to interrupt you. We all agreed that we were going to have the pullaway bathrooms because we're not building bathrooms up two stories high, which is
absolutely ludicrous. And we all agreed that um we were going to have picnic tables and everything. So, I don't know what kind of building structure you're talking about. Well, most of what you just described, I know that Jeff has already has that information and has
already had some of those initial, you know, that was part of when the companies came to bid, the different companies came to bid. They, you know, a lot of that was integrated into it. They're not, you know, that the designs won't have exactly some of the stuff that you explained. And uh you know it's
going to be mostly you know as as clo as as much as it we can do similar you know um in remembering what it used to be but you know it's not going to be exactly the same. Well, >> but I don't, you know, I I I hear what you're saying and I do know that Jeff has all of that information and is, you
know, so that phase of when they start to actually, you know, draw out and then then, uh, include the engineering specs that go behind the drawings, uh, is still to come. Not saying that it won't integrate
work that's already been done, you know, but we're not even I understand what you're saying. Don't be don't worry about that. That stuff's not going to be included. You have no, you know, that you have no worry about that. You shouldn't be worried about that. >> The point is, we've been messing with
this for over a year and I don't understand why this board keeps voting on something and then you guys come in and you make total changes that we're not even >> What change have I made? What change? No change. >> Well, this new engineer company, I mean,
we never voted on that. We didn't this first we even heard of that >> because that is a process for the town and the county >> the selection of the engineering and design firm and then the contracting firm later. That's a decision that's a decision for me and town council.
>> I'd like to know how much that cost. >> It's it'll be no more than the grant funding we got from CDBG DR >> and I can provide that to you. >> Let let me >> Excuse me. Let me understand what you're saying, Will, is that you're you're saying that um all of the things that we
worked on as a committee, as a board, um has been in the conceptual drawing phase which we worked on and Jeff has that absolutely >> and your u work right now as part of the town is to secure, you've already received the funding that's been in
place, >> you've already got the bids, you're going to get this these divi design and engineering drawings and when that's going to be done. Those conceptual drawings that we worked on, Jeff will present to that firm. Correct. So that
when they do the bid for the budget, >> when they're doing their construction bid, all the things that we integrated into that park uh was going to be done. >> Yeah, I understand, you know, exactly what you're asking and thank you for that. Yes, I know that a lot of those
materials, a lot of what we wanted, what you discussed with with uh Jeff and his team, a lot of what you wanted was integrated into the request for proposals, the request for bids. So, when the companies came in, they already had an idea. >> Okay? >> They already had those ideas
>> of what we were looking for. And I say we, I mean a town, including the committee, what we were looking for in that area. And then they came in and they said, they pitched how they would meet those objectives for us. >> Right. Three different companies came in. All very good presentations. Two of
the three were ones that have done work and are currently doing work for us here on the town. >> Great. >> And uh you know Tracy, my deputy, she was part of the committee along with Jeff along with a couple others and they selected one. I can't name them right now because I have to get approval
>> uh on Monday from council and then it'll be public and we'll move forward with them as quickly as possible. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. But I'll get I'll get the other information uh to your board member later on today. Okay. >> Also to um on the noon news, I had the
noon news on and they were showing Newton Park and about all the piles of sand and everything what was going to come and then they were think well they're going to have you know maybe tiki huts and they were giving examples already of things that could could go on
at Newton Park. >> I think it's exciting. We're seeing we're seeing progress with Crescent Park, you know, the county park up on the higher side. We're we're going to move forward with project here in the next few months with the design and engineering aspects of Newton Park and then uh you know the others as well. So
I I really appreciate that. >> Right. Yeah. >> I know it's slow, but uh we're going to ensure we get it across the finish line. >> I think part I think part of the delay also uh was because of Hurricane Ian and the the um um beach renourishment
project and the necessity of those trucks and that sand to be placed on that park. And that project was over a year long uh and delayed and delayed substantially, which uh Carrie, I hope you're >> um recognizing that it really wasn't the
town's fault that this has been so delayed. It was partly because of um FEMA's issue of uh the beach reourishment. The beach nourish project did go about six months longer than originally anticipated. You're right. And we that had to be completed first.
We also went through a couple of rounds of not receiving enough bids. You know, we it went out for bid a couple of times. I'm sure Jeff probably spoke about that. And we didn't get enough bids back because one of the >> CDBGR requirements is you get a minimum of three bids. You have to try that at
least twice, you know, and we same ran into the pool. Same thing with the pool. We didn't get enough bids. Finally, they did get bids, so we're able to move forward. >> Okay. >> Yeah, it's the bureaucratic process, but uh because it's not our money, you know, we have to justify every penny. So, >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Thank you.
>> Good thing you came. >> Yes. >> Any of this >> Joe's. >> That's Joe's. >> I know. >> Did he make more copies? >> Uh I handed them out. So, okay. Thank Thank you very much. I appreciate both
of uh you guys your input. >> Hey you guys um via email. >> We have several items here that >> What are you looking for? >> Carrie, part of the problem is we can't hear you very well. >> Can you turn up your volume?
>> I have my volume up. I don't know. Maybe they need to turn it up there. Is she hand? >> Okay. >> No, you say >> do you have another >> I'll turn up my mic more. How's that? >> Here's my Can you guys make sure that you email email me Joe's packet, please,
so I can take a look at that? >> I know we're just discussing that. So, are there any questions? Any discussion on any of the uh public input? >> I'm glad he was here though.
>> Yes. Then we thank you very much for coming. >> Yes. Thank you Joe for coming and and thank you Will for clarifying and um >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And actually I do have a question because I think Joe brings up a really interesting proposal and I'd like to um have Karina uh sort of respond to that.
Karina, if you would give your input as to the feasibility of of what Joe's proposing. >> Absolutely. Um I believe that it's definitely something that we are considering at this time and um
so have having I'm gonna we're going to take a look at this and uh start figuring out a plan on um on getting things rolling. >> Absolutely. >> So um then are you are you going to research that and give us a report next month?
>> Yes, I will. >> Okay, fantastic. >> Thank you, Karina. Uh, we have a lot to discuss today. So, um, moving on. Items for discussion >> to the mound house. >> Oh, I thought we did. I was thinking
>> report. It's It's Karina. We haven't had any staff reports. >> All right. Um, >> the staff was new. Yeah. >> Yeah. Until I took a break. >> A brief staff report for the mound house. >> Okay. Um uh first I I wanted to let you
know that our visitors attendance grew by 17% last month and uh we doubled the amount of uh programs. So that was an increase of 118% compar uh compared to January of 2025.
We had um two movies on the mound, one in January 10th, the other one uh February 21st. And um also we were very happy to receive a rose grant award for $5,19
from the uh FMV Chamber of Water Foundation, which is um to support our continued um maintenance of the water quality monitor at the moundhouse. We also um launched a uh marketing
campaign. Um basically we're doing um a lot of Facebook advertising and a lot of new post and I uh gave you a uh a report on how much um that has been helping us.
We had an increase of over 446% of total views on our um Facebook page and um we the amount of uh visitors at
the mouth has been increasing. So we um we do believe we believe that is directly related to the amount of exposure that we've been having. Uh we are happy to um to have a new community conversations um next month
and um we will the next one will be in March 19 and our guest speaker will be Susan Grace and she will be talking about the history of the moundhouse and um her experience as well as the late uh
Bill Grace um connection to to the mound Did you say March 19th? >> March 19th. Yes. >> Okay. 7:30. >> Seven time. >> It will be at uh uh >> 5:30 um for refreshments and a lecture
will start at 6:00. >> You said March 19th. >> March 19th. >> Yes. >> So, um I wanted to give you an update as well that our education coordinator left um January 24th, Emily
And uh due to that uh reason we had to put on hold our uh beach walks and our kayak tours. However, there are still yoga classes ongoing every Monday. And we are also
starting our new uh volunteer um trainings and refresher so that we can start bringing back more volunteers. And we're working on a uh virtual training so that um it doesn't take a lot of uh
staff time and we can um train uh volunteers as soon as possible. So that's as far as um January is concerned or I I will have the February of when it ends
so that I have the complete month and if you like I can send it to you um via email >> when when you're compare excuse me are you done I didn't know I'm done sorry um when you're comparing are you comparing the previous month or are you comparing year to year
>> year to year >> year to year So when you were saying saying that there was an increase in January, you're comparing it to the previous January, >> correct? >> Okay, that's great. That's very helpful. Um >> um also I don't have any of the materials here that talked about the
action plan. Uh I know that we were going to have that as a discussion. >> Is it possible for us to get copies of that? I mean, normally we do get them on email and I've had a chance to review them, but I never print copies out thinking that they would all be here for
us to discuss. So maybe while we're >> um talking about other things, we can get all of those other materials for us to discuss. And Karina on the um we're going back to a speaker um and you mentioned um having
um maybe wine and refreshments. Is that going to be provided provided then again by the mount house like you did or did you want people to help and bring in like the friends? >> It usually uh supplied by the friends >> by the friends. >> Yes. >> So you require the friends to
>> let them know. >> Yeah. We have to let them know. Is that >> friends? Yes, I will I will definitely >> Do we Yeah. Do we have wine and do we have any supplies at all? >> Uh we do have some but I will reach out and make sure that we have >> I thought it was a policy that we
couldn't serve wine >> if the friends are supporting the um event >> the event. Yes. And you can >> So will the are you saying that the friends will now start uh providing support for the lecture series? >> They always did. know Adam took it over.
>> That's right. That's what I was giving this past year and a half or two years. >> Yeah. Friends did not sponsor >> the lecture series. >> We used to the refreshments. The refreshments. >> Okay. So, it's not that they always did it. There was so we did initially
friends initially did the lecture series, sponsored it, provided the wine, tried and then >> uh for a period of what two years >> that didn't happen. So what I'm hearing you say is that we're we're going to restart the program where the friends
will be responsible not only for sponsoring the the lecture series but also providing the refreshments. >> Correct. >> Okay. What are you Ellen? >> Well, I'm not on the board of the Friends of the Mountain House anymore. >> You're not even on the board at all? >> No. No, but you're I can't
>> Right. But you're a member. Oh, a member and and I'm I'm aware of what Karina is is speaking of and I know the leadership of the friends is comfortable with that is comfort. >> Okay. So, how who are you communicating with as far as friends? >> Nancy Smith, Beverly and Beverly. Yes,
>> Beverly. Okay. And also one one other question. We're short one person. Do we have are we have feelers out for hiring somebody else? I know you could. We are currently looking for um I know we have applicants and uh HR is currently
working on on getting those um interviews. >> Okay. >> Okay. Give you some help here. >> Yeah. >> And and may I just interject here? Um this is really most appropriate for us to um congratulate Karina on the
official position now of being the museum manager. there for a while. You were a coordinator and then you were interim manager for a period of three or four months while a after Adam had left and now you've been officially hired as
the museum manager and just offering my congratulations. >> Thank you very much. All of ours. >> Yes. So, >> it's a wonderful appointment. >> Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And I must compliment you too because you're keeping Facebook. You're keeping the
moundhouse right out there on Facebook and I really appreciate that. So >> is Instagram as valuable for you or is that? >> Yes. >> Okay. Yeah. >> So we do post on them both. >> That's that's great. >> The meeting pack was very well done. >> Thank you. >> Yes.
>> But I'll make sure I have it printed have it in front of us. Right. >> Okay. Great. >> Okay. Anything else on um the mount house Newton Park? >> No, this is it so far. >> No. Okay. >> So, what what what about the
rearrangement or you >> Well, that's later. >> It's under later. Yeah, it's coming down. So, I said we have a lot of lot of things to cover here. Um so, anyone have any more questions for Karina? Okay. Then we will move on to items for
discussion. And first is our map program. And we reproduced for right now. >> And we okayed the collection and everyone approved it. And um um Karina, do we have a date when that goes before
we have to present it to the council? Do you have a date for when we have to do that? uh for the ar rearrangement >> for taking the collection that we that we okayed you know the collection >> the collection that we voted on
>> that needs to be presented to the the collections uh management policy >> yes that needs to be presented to uh town council and um um it I don't have the date it's I know
it's not um has not been presented yet. >> Okay. >> So for the probably for the next not this coming uh meeting but the following we need two weeks to >> you're talking about specifically the um
collection management collection >> and that's something that we voted on and once we vote on something then obviously then we're doing a recommendation to council. Council then has to review that, make sure that you know they've been voting specifically on
our recommendation to approve. Correct. >> So, who makes the who who makes the presation to >> I have asked Barbara and she would be >> I know what date it is that I I think I'd like to do it on the very date that they're but I need to know the date before I absolutely which which of the
council meetings. Right. So, if you could let me know. >> I will. Yes. >> Okay. So Barbara's very familiar with it and helped write it and u Karina was helping also. So um I would dearly appreciate that Barbara if you would cover that with the
>> Okay. So that's actually the map program is different because the collections management policy is what was um the board action and the approval. So that's different from the action plan which I still would like a copy of while we're having this meeting
>> this meeting now. right now. >> Can you make copies >> for which the the >> materials that you presented by email? >> I we need to have that if we're going to have a discussion. We need to have those materials in front of us >> and we've been accustomed to having the
materials given to us physically as well as in email. >> No problem. >> Do you have that? >> I do. I do have it. >> And you need to run it somewhere. >> Um I believe uh the front desk. >> Okay. So we will wait
>> I think so >> until that is presented >> to talk about something else and get back to >> that's what we're going to do. So um >> and I'll take it printed. >> Okay. Um I'd like to move on then to um strategic plan. We have talked about
having a strategic plan and we had talked about maybe um March, April bringing in the same lady that had had done ours before. Any thoughts on that? Put it shall we put that together on all
of us getting together and um the name was Lynn. I believe I can't remember we but we brought it up and we were talking about um having our strategic plan uh a planning session. >> Was this uh in the November meeting
because we haven't three months. >> No, it was in >> October. >> October. It had to be >> we met in November. didn't it was just December just passed but >> it was just December and January we did
not meet >> so we did have some discussion on having a plan >> we were tableabling we were tableabling the strategic plan until until that was we were supposed to do that in December >> no I'm sorry January >> January >> yeah that was the meeting that was
cancelled so we still have that to do and My question is, how does the strategic plan that CellCab and council voted to approve dubtail with your current action plan? What what is is one replacing the other?
>> No. Um, as far as I know, the the town's um strategic plan. >> No, but I'm talking about our strategic plan which the the town had already approved. That was years ago. >> Okay. So well that one we actually we
should just before we change anything we should review it and see what needs to be updated or if we if there's something if you believe that we should um start completely new. So it's I think it's something that it will help if we have a
discussion just on that maybe uh meet uh uh in that different setting and uh and kind of work through all this and see what works and you know what needs to be >> a work session. >> Yeah. A work session a planning session. I think I think the conversation that we
had in October or November actually in October was that we we have the moundhouse has a strategic plan. The town is putting together their strategic plan. The idea was that management from
the moundhouse was going to talk with the town strategic planning group or staff and make sure that all of the things that we had in our plan would be incorporated into theirs. And that I believe was the question we needed to know the status of where that is.
>> Okay. Uh we I still don't um I still don't have the information on on the town's strategic plan. So again, it's really who is the liaison then between the strategic plans the two the town and >> well who's our liaison now
>> would it be Jeff >> right is yeah it's Jeff but um >> it's John >> and even if we do even if we have um some something to present I believe that we should have something
more um current so that we can kind of work with the the new planning, you know, with the town >> and and >> so then have something ready. >> So then now not wait for their strategic plan. We can maybe have an informal
meeting of some type then and go over ours and see if we have recommendations >> right >> to incorporate in it. >> Well, actually that could have been today. It could have. >> That's on your That's on your action.
That's on your items for discussion. Do you want to go through the old >> No. >> Mount House Strategic Plan. No. >> No. >> Not today. We have too many things on the >> Well, it does dubtail back. We've got a bit of backup because we haven't had
meetings. But to address this, I mean, well, >> we will put it on for next month or we can plan a a session that we all get together. >> Okay. because we have >> yeah we have >> unfortunately we had some things that we
could not avoid right >> and um you know that happens so >> could we plan a midmon working session >> I would let's see why don't we do sometime in March and have a midmon planning session
>> if we have a work session where it's sort of around the table and >> you know because we're not making any decision isions. We come up with what needs to be and then we present it at the next meeting. And if we did it halfway through March, then we'd be ready to present it in at the end of
when maybe the town will have their strategic plan together again, too. >> So, um do we have a good date? This is the end of February. So um March >> we meet on
>> our meeting at meetings on March >> um >> yeah we could have a regular meeting and then do a workshop after it >> so we don't have to come back >> so >> our regular meeting is March 19th is
that correct you guys >> our next meeting. >> Yeah, >> that conflicts with Susan Grace. >> Yeah, I was going to say that's on the same as well. >> We could go from there to the mount house.
>> Are we the third or the fourth? >> Fourth. >> Fourth. Fourth Thursday. >> Oh, then that'd be the 2. >> Yeah. 26th 26th for the next meeting of March. So, we want to do it before
um first or second week of March. >> How about March the 11th? >> Uh at what time are you guys thinking? >> How about March the 11th? >> What time are you thinking on March
11th? >> I don't know. have to depend on what else is uh if this is available >> this room >> if if we do this room we don't we don't >> we wouldn't have to do this room >> we do we do this has to be public notice
>> we have to >> how about if we did it like >> we need to wait for Ellen too >> yeah what if we did it at the mount house made it public I'm just thinking avoiding you know um >> we can do that
>> and I can ask um to have it recorded >> and just have it advertised. >> Yeah. >> At uh >> public invited. >> Okay. What time would you like? Do you want to start early 11? >> What time? What's the date again? >> March 11th is what's suggested
>> would at the mound house and that and now what day is that? >> Wednesday. You're open on Wednesday. Yes. >> How about the 10th? >> Yeah. >> I just threw that out to get started. >> Yeah. How about the 10th? Because you
wouldn't be open then. That would be a Tuesday. >> That's a Tuesday. That's >> okay. >> That better. >> Yeah. >> Let's Ellen's back. >> Yep. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much, Ellen. That's yours.
And if there >> Thank you. >> This is good for us to have. >> Yeah, >> I have one. >> Yeah, I just printed out. Yeah, I didn't. >> Okay. Do we Did we do it on >> I'm sorry.
>> So, March 11th, we'll meet at the mound house. >> No, the 10th. >> The 10th. 10th >> or the 10th? The 10th. I'm sorry. >> We were talking up >> on the map program. >> Uhhuh. >> And strategic plan. We have >> on the old strategic plan
>> on the old what needs to be not the map program, >> right? But we uh we did discuss that while you were gone. >> Okay. And you're meeting on the 9th >> and we are going to meet on the 10th rather >> the 10th on a Tuesday at what? 10 o'clock. >> Bring our lunches and
>> Good idea. Make it a lunch meeting. 10 o'clock. >> Okay. Yeah. and Karina will advertise that and we will work on our we'll go over our strategic plan and if we have any updating to do so we'll be able to present it.
>> So we should plan on it being a multi-hour meeting. >> Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Probably we go through the plan. >> Where will we meet at the moundhouse? >> There is moundhouse is closed on Tuesday. So we can meet orientation. room.
>> Orientation room. >> Okay. >> Is she printing out other things? >> Um, >> will we be able to offer >> virtual action plan? Yes. >> What? >> Will we be able to offer virtual from
the moundhouse? >> Yeah, we can do Zoom from the mouth. Okay. Because Karina is very skilled setting. Yes. Yes. >> So, is that agreeable to everyone? >> Yes. >> I have a copy of of the post map
>> document or should I have I asked you to print those, too. >> Yeah. >> You need that. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Okay. That's been confusing not having all of this here. Oh, >> and and Karina, if I'm not mistaken, I
see that you have this as a proposal that you're presenting, >> correct? >> Because that's not actually the same as an item for discussion. So, what you're suggesting is that this was a proposal >> that was coming before cell >> and that would be something that we
would review and discuss and vote on board action. Correct. >> To approve this proposal, >> but that's not what's on the agenda. So, I just want to make clear if there's actually a board action that needs to be taken, it needs to be reflected. Ah, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Uh, and but I do think that I mean keeping in mind that this proposal came out of the MAP program, right? That was what was >> recommended by the um reviewer, the the
guy that came to do the uh survey of our >> um operations and programs. And uh these were some of the suggestions which Adam had worked on with Karina. And actually
um well it was um it was proposed by the map peer reviewer. Uh Adam made some suggestions. uh and Briana actually spent the time to observe uh our guests and you know how
they were moving around the museum listening to their questions and paid attention to where things seems to be needs uh needed a little bit more explanation based on that research um she came up with those with the idea of
moving things around. >> So in other words you're saying this hasn't been done yet >> right? No, it has not been done. >> And I was going to say and we probably we need to go through it. >> Yes. >> So, um, let's Does everyone have the
proposal for the rearrangement of the mount exhibits in their possession? >> Yes. >> And I have had a chance to review it and >> Yes. >> Okay. So, would you like to update us and go through it so we know it's uh >> Absolutely.
uh going off. >> That's that's starting with donations and comment boxes, >> right? >> Oh, well, so currently the donation box and the comment card are um
um they stand uh right after the the first exhibit. Mhm. >> And um so it really it it doesn't give the the visitors the
chance to for example towards the end if they want to do a donation, you know, it's not at the beginning of their tour. It should be at the end. >> It's too early, >> right? It's too early. Correct. >> Yeah. and uh just just moving and the same thing with the um
>> comments >> with the comment cards. So that should be towards at the end of the >> agree that's a great idea. >> Do we need to discuss >> do we need to discuss this as we go along and I mean is do do we just agree
with this at this point? No >> not not to vote on I mean whether we vote on it or not. It's or do we go through the whole thing and then go back through? >> I think it's important for us to just not that we have to vote on each item, but just to vote on the proposal and for
for Karina to explain to us why she's changing what she's changing and what is she changing. So, we can just go through that. >> So, we'll just go through it. And you did the the donation boxes. So I'll move on and then at the end if we just make comments when you're going through and
if you have any >> things to add at the end. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Okay. So the donation and the comment boxes if we move them to the museum store which is towards usually at the end of their tour they will give uh their visitors a better opportunity to
um give us a thanks >> and and a comment after they've seen everything. >> Okay. Then we have the standees uh of the kaloosa and the Spanish men that are currently uh residing the foyer. Well,
that because it's it's easy to move um that has been moved uh upstairs uh because we believe that it was um when it was at the foyer it was really out of context
and um and there's no mention of the kalousa before that point. So in the museum and the appearance in the foyer the visitor kind of confused about the content of the museum. That's why they are those were moved upstairs.
>> Does that eliminate the bench upstairs? >> It does not at well were there were they standing now? Yes. But we move at the um the bench to the towards on the other side >> in front of the
>> there were two. Yes, >> there's still two. >> There's still two. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> Preservation is progress panel. >> Yes. >> So, the preservation is progress uhformational panel that is that
currently resides in the orientation gallery. you can move to the open wall in the foyer and that's when you um again right in front of the uh stairs right and by uh going into the
orientation galleries. So this panel is a great start starting point for visitors as they begin their tour as it details what the moundhouse is, who is operated by and why the restoration of the house was done. So, it does provide
content uh context for the house and why it is important to the town of Fort Meyer speech and gets visitors excited for the history that are that they're about to learn. Our timeline panels. Okay. >> Oh, somebody's missing the preservation
in progress. I have two. >> Oh, anyone missing a preservation? >> Yeah. Well, there's I've got an extra donation one. Okay, >> that's okay. Probably just skip. I'll just Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Put on him aside for now. Okay. Um back to the timeline.
>> Okay. The timeline panel will be moved to the second floor. Um the timeline is an excellent panel detailing the history of the site's occupation from the Kuza to the rancher period and the pioneer occupation.
However, it is often forgotten and overlooked in the orientation gallery uh which is often blocked off from visitors views uh due to event or field of field trips. So having the timeline be the last thing visitors see will
provide an excellent summary of the history that um they have just learned about and their walk and they walk through. So if you if you see right now is in the orientation gallery right next to the uh
lift. So it will be on the second floor. >> Okay. >> So we'll be removing those two panels that you see there >> which is science on the mound and >> something else. >> Will those panels be reused? >> Yes.
>> Okay. They're just they're just moving elsewhere. >> Correct. Okay. So, we're changing things around. We're not taking away. As a matter of fact, we are um we'll be incorporating more of the panels like the ones in the um artifact restoration
center. The ones that were moved from there will actually um will we'll have a place for those as well. >> Good. >> Okay. So the um the panel the a century of
change panel will be moved to the opposite wall to serve as a starting point for the new exhibit that focuses solely on the residents of the moundhouse. >> Okay. So the the time the timeline that showcases the various appearances of the
house over the course of the century will provide a great introduction to the history of the families that occupy the moundhouse. >> So different room >> this will be in the same room in the orientation gallery but it will be >> where the timeline.
>> Correct. So it's the first panel they see when they come in. >> Okay. >> This is Yeah. Okay. Artifact display. >> So, this one um this case is currently in the settle settled on the shelf room
on the second floor and that will be moved to the current orientation room. Having this historic artifacts that date from 1750 to 1990s will further reflect the information on the surrounding panels about the residents of the moundhouse. Mh.
>> So um having artifacts on both floors will make visitors understand that both floors are part of the museum as staff has noticed that many visitors starting the museum start upstairs. >> I like that. >> Interesting. >> Yeah, >> it does.
>> So Karina, by having the the the display case in the orientation room, will there still be sufficient room to have chairs for lectures? And >> we will and and we can also have some um stairs where this um where this display case is. Now
>> that area can also be used as um as a g you know orientation. Yeah. Um for education or for um or events. And I could certainly see that if Brianna is making a presentation, it would be ideal to have it right outside her door, so to
speak. >> Yeah. >> And we can always open up and have the, you know, the the rest of the >> Will this be on some kind of roller system so it can be moved to the side or is it going to be up against the wall somewhere? >> No, no, it's not going to be against the wall
>> because it is it's meant to be a wall around. >> Yes. So if so you've got the if we do have continue to do that the lectures and things like that this will be in the middle of the room. >> Yes.
>> Well it's not going to be in the middle of the room on the kind of >> anybody sitting behind that will be like this. >> No the room is is is large enough so that we can have that area and not have
that situation. Maybe that has not been my experience. >> Right. We won't probably won't be able to have pe 50 people. >> Right. >> Right. But >> but that's never been an issue. >> Yes, it has. Sorry. >> Yes, it has. Before Ian, we we were
>> chairs at the back wall and all the way up. Now, what was never used was that al cove. You know what? Where the where the extra chairs were? >> You know what? >> I see. I know. You know where I in front of the Lator >> behind where the behind where the lift
is. >> What what I'm wondering is >> and this you'd have to talk to museum people >> that could this be put on some sort of >> this is very del.
Yeah. If it could be mobile it would be great. It >> couldn't be mobile because it's >> not the way the display is done. These are all delicate. >> There's >> the artifacts actually little tiny pieces >> and everything else is big and modern or is
>> No, you're right. It's >> No, it was >> But Karina, you you've thought through the logistics of placing this in that room where we still maintain as much seating as possible. >> Definitely. Yes, we'll definitely maintain um room for for lecture for um
education. Yeah. >> Okay. >> And and it's quite possible with technology if we really really needed an overspoke space we could do it via some type of of like a Zoom kind of arrangement or something. >> Yes. >> Right.
>> So you could have you could have people we could have people in all this all the galleries. >> Correct. You could have if you first come you can see it live live and otherwise you can see it remotely the way we have learned to do a lot of things >> and maybe if you limit the number of
people that makes more people sign up fast. >> That's true too. Well yeah and it could be >> very true. >> Yeah. If you want to if you want to be able to see the person live you have to sign up and get a reserve seat. >> Right. And if you're just interested in the event and maybe you can't come to
the event >> available via Zoom and we just have a a a monitor in other places as needed. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And we do have doors that open. >> We do.
for clar for clarity. Karina, could you kind of on on the artifacts display case, could you just kind of more clearly state that the um display case will be moved from the second floor to the current orientation room on the
first floor. >> Yes, >> that would be helpful because um that's a major move >> and I think it bears, you know, complete information. >> Yes. Okay. So, you do that. Okay.
>> I think it'll be great for visitors. So, >> they Yes, absolutely. >> Okay. >> The story will flow. >> Yes. Yes. Exactly. Settlers. Okay. Current settlers on the shells room
flow. Okay. Ex. >> Could you explain that? Current settlers on the shell's room flow. Well, this is the way it is right now. >> Settlers on the shelf. >> Are you saying this is the current flow? >> Yes, this is the current
>> the current flow, but not the current settlers. >> I mean, the way this reads is confusing, >> but Settlers on the Shells is the name of the room, >> right? >> Okay. But you you see what I'm saying? If somebody >> doesn't understand that that's the title
of the exhibit, >> correct? >> Current settlers on the show >> should have been on um >> current. Please rephrase that for clarity. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Being there every week, I knew exactly what >> um
>> it it was wrong. I I mean I've always thought it was >> what settlers on the show. Yeah. I would try to make people go backwards and they didn't like that. >> Right. So based on the recommendation of the map reviewer and Brianna's
exhibition knowledge, this exhibit flow is out of order and is confusing to visitors. So, the two panels that um that are out of timeline order beginning with the 40s and 50 occupation of the house, a random welcome panel halfway
through the exhibit and um and before jumping back to 1750 and then fishing with 1880s only to jump back to 1750. So it is recommended that all other
panels referring to the pioneer residence be relocated to the current orientation gallery to be a part of the residents exhibit and the rancho period exhibit remain in the space. The musical instrument will be added to the rancho
exhibit to give visitors a more interactive experience with the space. So with the relocation of the biffold panels, this opens up another door to the porch, giving more opportunities for visitors to explore the porch.
With um tour groups entering and exit exiting the APC often during tours, the space will be more open to accommodate larger groups. And a portable projector screen will be utilized in this room when needed for
educational opportunities, allowing for a more localized education area for tours and field trips and direct access access to children's activities on the porch. >> That's where I had gotten that idea. You had already put it out there, >> right?
>> What musical instruments? Yeah. Well, we do have a table with um uh of all kinds of musical instrument that were used in the uh during the rancho period. >> Do we know that? Have we found evidence of musical instruments?
>> I'm sure um I'm sure it's there, but I'll I'll I'll send it to you. I'll I'll send you the research. >> Oh, that you you're talking about during the excavation. >> Yeah. Did we find any in? >> No, no, no, no. We didn't find any
during the excavation. No, during that period of time uh the um during the rancho period. >> So I I will send you all the re the research that um it was Franklin and Ashley I believe that did the research
um so that you know why they put those instruments there >> and they they get a lot of use by both children and adults. >> And adults that's are they sort of on the table in the corner? >> Yes. Yes, the marathas and their cassinets and a few other instruments
that I was not familiar with um that apparently are from that time frame >> from that time period and might be used in any >> are they Spanish? Are they Cuban? Are they kousa? Are they seol
important? You're right, Becky. It's important for us to differentiate what period these instruments came from. >> Yeah. And I will send you the research. >> Okay, that'd be great. Thank you. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Okay.
>> So, the biffold panels. So, almost all the panels except the rancho would be moved to the orientation. >> Moved around. Correct. >> To the orientation. the orientation room
>> including and the Okay. Okay. So, the biffold panel. >> Uhhuh. >> Plus the two on the other on the two on the opposite wall. Okay. >> So, if you the B the bifold panels >> will will be placed in the current
orientation gallery where the chairs are stored right now. >> Um those opening another section of the room for exhibit for an exhibition. Okay. >> So, these panels detail the uh with the
first pioneer settlers in 1880 beginning the uh the panel timeline for visitors to understand the pioneer occupation on the site. The second panel uh details more about the case family acquisition of the property and the
building of the 1906 kitchen and the 1909 bungalow renovation. So the panels are out of context in the upstairs exhibit. >> And I find that when I'm there now and I'm talking with people, when you're downstairs, you say, "Well, there's more
details upstairs." It would make much more sense to say, "And on this wall, >> right?" I agree. Good. >> Okay. Would the um copy of the homestead
somehow be made be put in this? >> It um we have not talked about it yet. >> I mean it it was just laid down but it it's interesting and it it goes further back than the cases and
>> Yeah. >> Who was it who did it? A Gilbert. >> Gilbert. >> Gilbert. Yeah. >> Um, yeah, because in fact I haven't seen it in a while. It just was in in and it was just laminated >> was on a bench >> laminated on on a bench. I think to have a more formal sore would be if there's
space if there's room on the wall down there. I think that would be interesting >> or to put it where people could pick it up and really look at it, see it, not on the bench looking like somebody left it with their lunch. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> And the um the other panel that I was uh
telling you about the bathroom check the aisle panel. So it will be put in the current orientation gallery after the bifold panel to continue the resident's timeline. >> That's wonderful. >> Okay. Good. And um also then this the science on on
the mound panel will be moved to um to where a century of changes panel is currently currently now >> in the century of change panel is going to go >> where the >> where the house
>> the timeline. Oh, okay. So, it'll still be downstairs. Okay. >> Wait a minute. I thought you were going to move the house that to the house to that timeline >> wall. >> This one? >> Yes. This one goes to the uh timeline wall. >> Correct.
>> I I would like to see uh you know, very quick. Here's the Here's the gallery, the orientation gallery. Where stuff's going to go >> on the wall. Do we have that coming up?
Sorry. >> Um, well, we're kind of going >> pieces wall by wall. >> It shows before and after on each page. >> In other words, this is where it was was and or this is where it currently is and this is where she's proposing it. No, I
don't. This is upstairs. This is going to stay downstairs. >> Where, In other words, you're asking what on what wall downstairs would that go? >> I mean, I know what this one is, but I don't know what >> that's it is confusing. You're right,
Becky. >> And and and and you know, we get to it. We haven't gotten to that point yet. It's not It's just If you draw, you know, here you come in and you're on the left. So you've got the the the the
five iterations of the house and then >> there's the and then there's the lift and then there's the wall against the lift. What goes there? Are we going to use the screen and then where's the B? >> Well, this we're not going to use the screen.
>> The screen, right? Because if we're going to do that exhibit, you know, moving the panels there, we don't want the screen there. Yeah. >> So, we don't have any kind of projection available. >> We do, but not there. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> I'm with you. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Then we need to figure out where the projection will go. >> And currently, we do have one that we can move around. We don't have to have one that's stationed, right? >> Well, what are you going to do with the one that's already there? Um,
>> isn't that permanently affixed to the >> the um the panel? Yes. Does come down, but um the projector is very old and we need to replace it some, you know, at some time. So, if we're going to do
that, we might have the option of getting one that we can move around. >> But if you left it in place, you can also >> you've got a you've got a panel on the wall, right? you let it down for it means you could not use it for for any
of the lecture kinds of things that we've been doing. >> But we do have a portable one. >> No, no, no. Same size. >> Same size. >> Same type screen. It's portable. >> So you could use it in the orientation room. >> You can use it in the orientation or you
can use it upstairs >> because it opens up a you know >> more flexibility, >> right? Because we do have a you know >> Okay. I mean, but but if it's there and it just shows a little bit, why not keep it if it's still operable, you still need to get a new projector, however
that works. But I mean, if it works, why would you take it down if even if you get a new one for upstairs? >> Well, just to have a better flow. >> No, I changing nothing except leave that thing into place until you need it in that place.
>> I mean, we we don't have to remove it. >> That's all I'm saying. Just leave it. That's all I'm saying. Get a new one. do all you need to do. >> You still show the video, right, for the visitors when they come in. >> They haven't done that in years. >> The video we don't have an orientation video and
not >> Oh, no, no, no. There's a there's an Well, it's only one video. What about that? Right. >> The orientation video right now is very outdated because it shows the underground where it's not um it's not anymore. So we will need something um
different. Uh what we show now it's another movie uh it's a u from WGCU. >> Yeah it's Myers Beach. >> It's very interesting and I think it's a great thing to have but
>> you're right >> and if you think back to and I love that orientation film I'm sorry I could. However, >> it's redundant. If you go through the museum, you wouldn't sit down and watch it again. And and I'm, you know, it's sold. It was
broken. It I mean, it hadn't been there for years. >> Yeah. And it's long. >> Well, it's really three minutes. >> I didn't think it was long. I thought it was actually the same one. This is the one with parts going around and and then
and the actual excavation which I thought was huge. >> The excavation and thinking of the one with all the people talking. >> We're not showing that one anymore where you have like you know rock >> was 22 that's that's what's being shown now.
>> Yeah. And that's 22 minutes long. It was done. >> Yeah. >> But it's good. People like it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I think it would be lovely if we could have an option. We could have the three-minute version because some people don't want to spend 22 minutes. Some people do. If we could have three
options. We can show you I always used to glibly say 2,000 years of history in three minutes. >> Right? >> And then we could have a medium-sized one. If you want to spend 10 minutes, I can give you that. Or I can show you the long one. >> But, you know, there are so many kinds of things with iPads and computers that
you could do it on a on a kiosk. Those kiosks we had started out and were wonderful and then like you know 15 minutes later were outdated. But you know to have that sort of thing on a very small thing as opposed to taking up the whole room which that room was sort
of useless. >> Mhm. but have, you know, two or three or three. I always thought that they could have updated the kiosk, which they've got a whole lot more information and and stuff that they said
early early on they could put in those kiosk upstairs that's now the artifact room and and but that never happened and then it and then it became defunct. But all those pictures of the early moundhouse were fascinating and could be
on a little portable laptop sort of thing in >> well screwed to the wall, screwed to a table with a chair so somebody could sit down and watch it. >> Right. Right. So then rather having a formal orientation because it gets awkward. It's been very very busy the
last few weeks because the weather's been cold and you'll have you'll start the orientation video and then people come in three minutes later. Yeah. And then at you know so I I get to the point where I say okay if it's more than five minutes >> you'll yeah >> watch it at the end or something. But to have customized ones where you could
everybody arriving can go at their own pace. >> But that and but that one is Fort Meyers Beach not the moundhouse. >> Well it talks about the moundhouse. >> Oh it certainly does. >> It does. And it's a wonderful it's a wonderful thing. It doesn't feature it though, but it's not an orientation to the museum at all.
>> But remember that we are also working on the um that app that will give you a tour of the house and give you all the information. >> See, that'd be that would be great. >> And we're currently working on that. >> Who who is we? Which? Uh well right now
there's a um FGCU student that I'm currently working with and um so she's putting all the information together and then we'll you know we have to kind of talk about it and you know what will go to the actual tour. Do you have a
completion date on that that you're looking at or >> because of the amount of hours that we you know that I have with the um >> because this is a volunteer community involvement from like from a student >> right. Okay. >> So
>> good. You know the other thing we have is >> sort of maybe is what we had down in the exhibit down in the underground and and the the digging and and you know some of that certainly could be incorporated into some real
>> quick orientation >> three minute five minutes >> three minutes and then the >> so we have options and that's that is to come I mean leads are to be decided right >> and brought to us on what your suggestions are
>> so okay >> in the meantime we believe that um that making this small changes you know definitely will help the visitors kind of um understand the timeline a little a lot
better a >> lot better and uh >> it will definitely flow better. >> Yeah. When I went through this, I thought this is genius because >> having doing it on a regular basis and knowing that you have to tell people, well, more upstairs, more of this, more
it's it doesn't when you see this flow, you go, whoa, >> that makes sense. >> Now, that's the difference between Ellen and me. I looked, I went, >> come on, you're ruining everything. It's just >> And then the more I think about it, I'm
sorry. >> All right. Well, you were it's anti- change. It's always >> anti- change and we need to be a little, I think, flexible. Let's Let's give Karina a chance on this. >> The other thing is >> this makes it new again.
>> If you've been there three times over the last two or three years, >> something >> and now now you'll go and you'll see it in a whole different way. >> It's just Brianna. >> Yes. >> And that's come up in conversations. If you've been there, why would you go
back? You need to have things on a regular basis, >> right? >> Fresh. Um, when are these changes going to be made? >> As soon as you say yes. >> As soon as we say yes. >> Okay. Any more questions on these before
we uh take a vote? >> Okay. So, we have new APC. The settlers on the shelves goes goes downstairs into the orientation room. >> Yep. And is there anything else we skipped last residence panel? >> We've you are going to be making some of
the changes that we've discussed right with regard to the text >> uh >> you know like say for better wording so it's more clear. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> The only room thing let me see this um
>> the settlers on the shell room. I think you know what you can do if you wanted to be just say the current flow of the settlers on the shells exhibit and put any of the exhibit titles in in quotation marks
>> quotation correct >> because that you know if people are reading this you're so accustomed to it Brianna so you you know but this is for some lay person who's going to look at this and say you know we need to re recognize the
difference between the titles of these exhibitions and the um recommended changes. Um and also I'd like to have all of these pages numbered so that we have them in the proper alignment. So if you could just number them
>> and does if we vote in favor of this does it have to go to anyone else or are we the deciders? >> I I think um no I think this this this isn't really a policy. The only thing happened policy that would be >> because we were in charge with oversight
that this would be >> would be our perview. >> This would this is our perview to make >> we put it in there by golly. I think we ought to be able to move it around. Yep. I think so too. So, >> okay. So, I'd like to make a motion that
um we approve the proposal that Karina had presented to Cellcap for the rearrangement of the moundhouse exhibits with the stated changes that were made. >> This is Becky. I'll second. >> Okay. Any discussion?
>> I think it's more I think it's genius. >> I think I too I applaud you for doing it taking this on. >> Yeah. Well, I will. I was just making my comment. So, um, uh, all in favor then, uh, >> I
>> Hey, hey, it Oh, it passes. So, wonderful. Thank you, Karina. >> Passes unanimously. >> Unanimously. Did everybody? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Including Becky, the no change person. >> And Carrie, you can tell where our love is.
>> Yes. Exactly. Exactly. All right. to the silver. >> The what? >> Stasis. >> Stasis. >> Okay, we're going to move on because we have a lot going on. >> I have a question for Karina with regard to this now that that's been approved. >> Who's going to do this
>> because that's a tremendous amount of work to move and it's not just screwing something in the wall. These are all bricks, >> correct? >> So, who's doing that? Uh actually we have our um maintenance person uh which is u museum historical maintenance
person and uh he's the one who's going to be helping us with this. >> Okay. So are you going to be directing this? Uh basically he's a preparator. If you were a museum and the museum changes being made in terms of exhibits, the preparatory is the one that makes those
changes, but you have to oversee the correct height. >> Correct. Yes. >> Okay. So, and Brianna Brianna has already had that experience. Correct. Correct. >> So, you know, we don't want to have up the here down, you know, just making sure that it's consistently done. >> Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Does the display case fit in the in the in the lift? We'll um we'll figure it out. >> We'll see. Measure. >> I uh I believe it was measured, but I
I'm not 100% sure. >> I mean, it got up there. >> Yeah. But >> as they assembled it up there as I'm guessing maybe they did. I'm not sure. >> Okay. >> So, you I mean, that's that's logistics. You'll figure it out. >> Yes. Yes. So, okay. All right. Right.
Well, let's move on to uh what we have the underground and we have uh an update on the underground. >> So, the well the underground um definitely were very happy that um Joe came um to give us that idea
>> and um uh we did started to um opening it up uh air it out and start um um you know the cleaning process and see where we at. We're probably going to have to uh bring back our the structure
engineer and um so we're definitely taking things um one step at a time to towards um the possibility of reopening it. >> Do you remember there was a gentleman
that came to our cell cab meeting his name? >> Oh, you do have his name. Good. >> Because would it be appropriate? The other thing I was remembering is that Teresa Shober came and and said a lot of this stuff was already put into
the plan. I don't know if you were there the day she came, >> um, but she was saying this was done, this was done, this was done, this was done, and and then all of that got lost with the next >> museum administration. Right.
And uh just so you know that Teresa is going to be at the mound house on the 6th and I requested you know a little meeting with her so that um kind of have a conversation and see and see how you're in communication with Teresa.
>> Um I I just we just started that. Yeah, >> which is which is wonderful. >> And you have the information that you can give to Karina about the gentleman that came to that >> meeting? Yeah. Is this I I think this is the gentle that Charlie >> the Charlie Strader. So that was it.
Okay. >> And from Bonita Springs and that's really all I have. >> So >> Victor Thompson. >> Yes. And Victor Thompson. >> Yeah. I think we need to get all the input we can get. >> Yeah. >> So, you know, we'll we'll start that um
conversation in um >> Yeah. >> And see how that goes. Yeah. >> That sounds great. Okay. That's great. >> Stepped over stepped. >> I'm glad you aired it out and opened it up and because that had to be quite >> pungent down there. >> And I think the intent too was that, you
know, we knew we all as cell cab members knew that the underground exhibit would never be what it was before hurricane Ian. However, just the opportunity for that to be available to the public to look in, to have experienced it, not to
sit there for 20 minutes or not to like, you know, um >> have events there or lectures there, but to at least get a sense of what that looks like will be invaluable. So to the extent that we can get it repaired enough so that we can make that
available to the tour groups. >> You bet. So they can even peek in, >> you know. I mean that's that was our big selling. figure out, you know, as the time comes, what needs to what needs to happen, what kind of um
>> do you remember does anybody um there when we went up to Osprey Point and we looked at the and that's behind glass and I was envisioning I I get the door. You open the doors or you glass the doors or whatever you do as the
first step, but what if we built a glass tunnel? We don't have water going over and above like in, you know, the aquariums. you can walk through. But if you glassed >> That's a great idea. sides and you could go almost go all the way to the back and you really could get a much then you
know you wouldn't have >> you wouldn't have the glass in I don't know where the glass is even where it was now but you could really get the feeling of being inside inside that the murals could come back >> or not however that however that works
out murals about yeah or more murals if we have because that really more murals. Yeah. >> I mean, even to create new ones. >> Create new ones. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I think establishing what the cost
of this will be is important because I think that is an incredible fundraising opportunity. >> Right. I agree. >> Absolutely, Ellen. You're 100% correct. >> Plus sponsors. >> Yes. >> Sponsors and big sponsors >> and and all kinds of fundraising opportunities and sponsorships.
And if we have if we have a friends event with the idea that the funds raised will go towards this and this is the amount that it's going to take for us to get that open. There's that sense of immediacy and again the sense of renewal. Our beach is coming back another you know.
>> Exactly. And that Charlie gentleman that came, he he thought that we should think really big because he was suggesting that engineering companies that operate on an international level >> might be interested in doing whatever work we need done pro bono
>> for the PR. Exactly. Exactly. So I'll give you I'll give you his name. But I mean and this is something a fundraiser we that can go countywide. I mean absolutely multiple multiple idea and just with the the um idea of it's for
the underground people love that thing >> you know we can just look at the before and after and what's proposed to get it back the visuals make all the difference you're too tiny anyway >> okay so I think we're we're in agreement on that you'll keep us posted
>> okay >> and everybody's excited and everybody's excited thank you thank you for opening that excited about the interest and that it's moving. >> Yeah. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> And I would say h having been there so
much recently, >> I it comes up every single week. >> It does. It does. >> Every single week. >> Of course. And people say where I live is that you know, are you ever going to get it open? Because that's what we always came to see. >> Exactly. They brought people to sins. We
always Exactly. And then what? So I think this is great just so we have a picture of it. We have we have hope. We have hope and if we work toward that goal I mean that that makes and that just kind of brings me back to my point
where if we start opening that up that brings in resources that brings in money >> and it brings back the community >> in the community and it would just make such a difference. >> So um so keep us posted. We're willing
to do anything you want. We could do a soft shoe dance or something for the entertain entertainment. Okay, let's move on. >> Um, commemorative elements discussion. Um, and that's that's been a subject
that we have been working on forever and ever is how do we when we have donations and in people's names, how do we commemorate them? And I am open to suggestions. We have just in the one
following um the commemorative elements, we have the loop road which is also been paid for by donations and that is a sign that's going to go on the loop road. So we'll address that a little bit, but I'm
just saying that some have been designated already. >> Was it the road sign voted on by town council? Yes. >> So that's just an implementation issue. >> Yep. Yep. Okay. >> Yep. >> That was a done deal and it was done by
our former mayor and was brought to us first at CellCAP and then we finally I I don't think all of us were in favor of it. But anyway, it did pass and then it went on to council and they agreed. So
it's a done deal. Yay. >> I think I think the subject of um gifts and donations or commemorations or memorials was part of a larger conversation that the town itself was having with forming a policy. So, I'm
interested, Karina, if you have any information about the gifts and donations policy that the town is working on that would cover moundhouse issues. >> Right. Um, I don't have an update on that as far as what the town is working on.
>> So, you're saying there's been no decision yet, but they're working on it. >> Correct. >> Okay. My May I suggest that we hold off and table that discussion because we can't preempt what the town is going to do anyway. >> Right. >> Right. So, let's if there's any memorial
or commemoration or naming opportunities or sponsors that are going to come in and give us $500,000 for X, we need to be compliant with the town policy. So, I think it's premature for us to have this on the agenda. Well, and if we were
thinking about going out for big sponsors like we want you to build a glass tunnel into the underground or we want you to do this and and you know big pro bono stuff that really has to be okay by the town and so tell them to get on the stick. >> Yeah, exactly. And
>> I just want to make a couple of comments about because a lot of this came up because I had um proposed um brought up again about finding an appropriate bench for for my husband. But I want I just want it to be clear that that was really
not my idea originally. It was a couple of members at the moundhouse that mentioned it to me and um I you know thought it was very kind, very sensitive and I was all out for um you know dedicating any income or whatever any
donations that were made as as a memorial to him. But it was really not my idea. So it wasn't trying to go around digging on the mound or or putting things where you know to preclude other people because my point at this point I've I've lived here long enough to have some hindsight and that
is there have been many many people involved >> in in in many ways over the years and you that's after all that's why we are all here >> had it not been for their dedication and hard work. So they deserve as well. I
mean, Bill Casease u I mean there's so many you could just go down the list. >> Yeah. >> So I have been thinking a lot about it and somebody brought up a tree, >> you know, and I'm not trying to jump ahead or whatever, but I was just I just want to throw this out for thought. Somebody brought up a tree at the last
meeting and I think that um I was watching the meeting from I didn't make the meeting in November, but I was watching and um I I think that's a wonderful idea because a tree is a a sign of life and it grows and it keeps growing and and it adds limbs and twigs
and leaves and all of the things that that would be >> don't have a tree with. So, I just think that's I thought I've thought a lot about that and I think it would be a wonderful idea >> to think about. >> Are you you're talking about an actual tree that's planted in the ground? >> No, no, no, no. I think it was
Jefferson. >> But there already is one for the town. >> For the town, but not for the moundhouse. >> But it kind of came up in a meeting that this might be an idea for us >> for the >> for the house. All right. I think the issue there is that our wall space is
dedicated to education interpretation. >> Oh, I didn't mean necessarily for to go in the moundhouse. I And I wasn't trying to make any decisions about anything. No, I just want to know. >> I like the imagery. I like the town of being portrayed with the growth of a tree and the town.
>> It could be a sculpture, so to speak. up. >> Well, I mean, >> but it could be a sculptural kind of thing outdoors and it could have the ability to have leaves added leaves added to it. So, that's true. If you wanted to have memorial as a person, >> I I just like the idea of a tree and I
thought it was just worth mentioning and I just wanted to make it clear that the bench was not really my idea and and it sounds like because there isn't that much space and if you put one bench for one person >> and I think he did something very important.
>> Mhm. Uh, and he enjoyed it as much as anything. He just really enjoyed doing that and giving it away. >> And I just, you know, and I appreciate that. But I think there are so many others that have contributed in in so
many other ways. >> So, I just kind of like the idea of the tree, you know, whether it's a meadow tree or whatever or wherever it is. >> I kind of like the idea of dedicating a tree that's a living tree. I mean the whole thing about our cultural and
environmental site and the fact that is an archaeological site is about >> the walk and the gardens and the botanicals and nature and um that could be honored too. I mean planting a tree >> exactly
>> is never a bad idea. Well, and you know, we need to >> be careful where you plant it. >> It's all in keeping with our overall and we're going to talk about that too because our landscape >> enhancement just >> but I think David Saxs who is our landscape architect has already
designated, you know, the native plants and the native trees and of course, you know, we we know we're going to have additional hurricanes and additional um storms and storm surges. So, you know, we have to bear in mind that, you know, not everything that's planted will be
making it either. But that's the way life is, too. I mean, if you want to talk about that metaphorically, but again, if a tree is down and then, you know, another tree needs to How many mango trees did we lose in the hurricane? >> Yeah, we lost. We we lost a lot of
trees, >> right? So, I would I would love to have a I would love to donate a tree, you know, and and and have it as a a way to commemorate an individual. >> I like that idea. Good idea.
>> Then what happens when the tree dies >> or falls over? I mean, you have to think about that, too. Then do we just start over again and and that person memorial goes >> Yeah. >> out to sea. >> Yeah. Okay. In fact, that's just mother nature. >> It's it's mother nature. None of us are
here permanently either. >> Isn't that true? >> Yeah. >> So, okay. Any more discussion on that? I think that's a very uh excellent idea. And I don't see why do we need to wait on that if anybody wants to act on it and put in a tree.
>> Well, no. That has to be part of the landscape plan. That also has we would have to go with this. That's Yeah. Yeah. >> And see what we would need and what salt water tolerant. Okay. All right. Well, let's move on then. That's great. Good discussion. Um, the loop road sign.
>> Um, I found the original designs and I already reach out to the um to the graphic designer and uh found out who then the um the company that actually makes those signs so that we keep the same. Um,
>> you're talking about the botanical signs that we're trying to Okay. Megan Kissinger is the artist. >> And you did you try and contact her? >> Uh no. Uh she is the one who made the graphics, >> not the design of the actual um the the
uh design with uh illustrator. >> Yeah. Well, she is the she is the artist and she did all of the botanical drawings >> for the signs and then you also have the graphic firm that made the fabricated the signs. >> Correct. >> Okay.
>> So I contacted um fossil, I believe it's called. Um, and uh, they're ready for me to to send. Um, the the only issue is that, you know, I had to have to change the logo because he had the lo the old logo, but all the colors and the fonts
are the same. >> So, when how did we change the logo? >> Way back, >> right? Remember, it used to um, it had the green and now we had the teal and uh, the blue and the teal. So, in other words, the original artwork for the logo
did not change, only the colors, >> only the colors. >> Okay. Yeah, I remember we had to do that in keeping with in keeping with the the town's logo, which by the way, I still have issues with, but that's me. >> Why didn't Why Why didn't the town of
Fort Myers Beach comply with our color scheme for the mount? >> I'm with It's true. I agree. I agree. Um Karina, do you have a um any pictures or any renditions of of what this loop sign would look like?
>> Um I did, but I don't think it made it to the um >> didn't make to to where I send it to you. So I'll make sure to send it. Yeah, because it's this exact >> because I know you had it all together. >> Yeah. >> So it's exactly the same thing that we have. Same size, but um I'll definitely
I'll send it to you before I before I send it out. >> Okay. >> Good. Yeah, we can maybe bring that as an agenda item for next month, right? >> So that we can vote on getting that loop so we can call Ray >> and say it's done.
That'll make him happy. Okay, then we'll just mount House Landscape Enhancement. >> Just what we've been talking about. >> Let me just bring something. Scientific garden was not there. It's down here and here.
>> Scientific and medicinal. >> Oh yeah. >> I see. And we need to go through this. >> That's that that um map that actually >> the map that we >> there. >> So that's what we need to go >> we need to do. >> See this
>> was there was a collection management policy. >> Coconut coconut. >> You screw that under. No, no. In this circle, what that says scientific garden? >> I had her ask her. >> This was not named.
>> You could just identify the spaces. >> The gumbo limbo was right down at the end of the path >> and gives >> and it just wasn't named. There was there was sugar there which is sort of thing you know >> that's not dual discussions here. So >> and there used to be a papay.
Um >> well the only concern that we have right now is first we will have to plant something very you know the trees are very small they have to be very small >> now what are you referring to so everyone can >> no no in general in general
>> can you move either front or back so absolutely absolutely I'm always having to do >> no problem you move around >> I know I do >> you need to put her out front appreciate you saying that >> so uh and the other thing is the irrigation it was we need to repair that
before any planting are done around the area. >> So >> we have irrigation. >> We do. And uh so uh actually I'm getting some quotes as um right now to to see if
you know how much that is to to repair um that irrigation system. >> So okay. So we're going after a new plan. We're not going to use the old plan. >> Okay. Why are we >> No, no, I'm not saying I I just talked
about the irrigation. I just talked about the irrigation system. >> But I'm reading this. The third element with the restoration plan, a landscape. >> Oh, this is who wrote this. >> Well, just this is from >> Hold it one at a time. >> This is from the book that Pat wrote. >> Okay. And it the reason I asked uh
Karina, we had been discussing some of this and Ellen had mentioned that the garden club had some good suggestions and I thought it might be nice to know where the gu gardens were and what was previously there. It doesn't mean that that u this is what you're going to
replant or anything just for grins and giggles, you know. >> But I thought it might be interesting to to look at. So I asked her and you very nice job. Thank you. Oh, >> you're welcome. Sorry, >> but when you're saying early asterero plantings, was that where all of the
fruit trees were and the the pineapple and the pineapple and the banana trees early and there was citrus, >> right? >> Yeah. I've always called when I give you tours, I always give call it the kitchen garden. >> But I've never heard of a scientific
garden. >> Oh, yeah. Medicinal and scientific. But it was there was stuff there. There is still one tree left and that is the moringa tree and then there used to be um well we also talked about the physic nut tree which is related to the
jatroofa. We don't grow them here but that's used for oil. Um and and then there was the treeado and and the k and kpock which didn't do real well and then all spice. All spice, right?
>> And there might have been something else. >> Those are the ones I remember. >> And I think the problem is, >> did we ever document that garden tour? >> Was there ever a document? >> I doubt it. >> A document. >> Yeah, cuz I remember I remember learning all of this, but I remember learning it by
>> Right. But I learned >> You guys used to do it. >> Yeah. And I did, too. But And I learned it by by shadowing Seal for months. >> Yeah. and then remembering all the names. But I don't know that uh it wasn't a script, but I mean there was sort of a >> the allspice tree is referred to here in
um right here. >> Okay. So this this I think if we the original this is great original >> that Pat um documented all of this. I mean this is so invaluable. This is his
real contribution in that book. that we can use this as our reference and it's so beautifully done. >> I I thought it would might be it really just refresh >> hugely informative. >> That's awesome. >> I wouldn't have known where the gardens were a week when I
>> people tour it's available in >> So are we doing as where are we as to landscaping? >> Yeah. >> Um >> we are recreating the original landscape plan. Is that right? >> That's correct. >> Well, let's just put that in there. We're recreating the original landscape
plan. We're not making up a new plan from it. We're not creating. This is this says creating, >> but this is the original. That's where that's where the miscommunication came from. This is Pat's input. This is his text as it
related to the original landscape plan >> from from the Yeah. And also he uh let's see parks parks right is it >> park right park no park >> park park louis >> park Lewis yeah but see it's in the acknowledgements. Yeah that's the name >> actually met him and they went through
everything because I remember the morning he >> he went to meet him to do that. >> Okay. >> So yeah. So do we have a plan for anything starting >> right now? We're starting on the fixing the irrigation system.
>> Okay. And back to the scientific medicinal and maybe cultural is a much better word for it. You look at >> um none of those plants, none of those trees except the um moringa did well
where they were put and that certainly has to be looked at before we put a bunch of trees in that are going to get washed out. And are there other places? >> You know, I don't Well, you remember way back Russ >> Mhm. >> And he would go, "Now, this tree over
here, >> this is R. >> That was the Walgreens tree. >> And this tree over here was the CVS tree." And they would he would Oh, there used to be um >> It was colorful. >> Yeah. And and that oh there was the the
that berry thing and then the oh there were a bunch of other things there. >> There were beauty berry got them all documented here. >> The beauty berry which is a native >> indigo the white indigo berry. And then there was something else. Apple
>> pond apple. >> No. >> There was something else and you had to look really really hard and they were this big and they were shadowed by the big leaves. It was down across the drive. You go down on the drive and it was
on the top. If you fell off the driveway right there, you'd be in the in the bay. >> Oh, >> it was and I can't remember the name of it. Um, all spice sevenyear apple, >> but these are >> Sure. Yeah. Yeah, Becky. The seven-year
apple. >> Yes. Good for you. Okay, >> because they grow on the beach. I see seven of your apple. Well, I actually have >> So, we would want things that >> Yes. >> that are sustainable and would be >> So, was David Saxs with this
uh landscape architect? Wasn't David Sax? >> David Saxs was the >> He was something. >> He was landscape architect for the mouth, the landscape. >> David Saxs. Yeah. I mean, they came and they helped us with the logo with with everything.
>> Exactly. So I don't get the this firm that >> and they went the firm went belly up. >> This was the original and then >> it was called synergy. >> Oh no, that was the museum exhibit. >> That was the museum exhibit. >> That was all of the uh interpreters
all the panels. But >> this is landscape only. >> David Sax was was in the county or something like that. He was certainly But was he part of supervising or was he picking the plans? And is it the like the difference between the conceptual drawing, you know, that we did the plan
for Newton and what has to be now engineered and measured down to the inch and a half and that kind of stuff. >> So when you talk with the landscape company, who are you using? >> Landscape company. All native. >> Oh yes,
>> good. All native. >> Okay. >> And they already have a game plan as to where the plants need to go. Uh, no game plan yet until we figure out the irrigation system and >> Okay. So, and when was the ir irrigation system first put in? Originally, when
all of these were first planted >> it um I >> I don't I'm not sure. Um I'm not sure. I think around 2017 or a little before that. Um >> cuz I thought there wasn't any
irrigation. >> That's what I thought. I I thought we were not allowed to even put land irrigation. We wanted it to just be self- sustaining. I thought >> part of the education program. >> If it's self sustaining um then there is
then >> most of the uh trees are not going to survive. >> Right. Right. >> Yeah. Especially in these drought conditions, >> right? >> Yeah. >> So, is the irrigation over the entire property >> around? Not not >> Oh, just around.
>> I don't think they do the lawn and they don't spray the lawn for not not the right right. So, it would cover the the plantings. >> Okay. >> Okay. Well, keep us informed on that, please. And
also, Barbara, I know you'd like to go back to uh the map. You might as well get as long as we're >> going over today. Let's uh >> Well, we didn't go over this originally, but this is um the
um action plan. And I guess my question for Karina is how is this different from I mean this is obviously a more current plan which we def des desperately need but does this take the place of a strategic plan is my question and I
looked at all of the people here responsible and obviously you're taking the the load here Karina but I don't see Jet's name on here at all >> and I don't see what part we play in this action plan or is this only to
relate to >> mount house staff. >> This relates to mound house staff. >> Just mount house. This is in other words, this is not our job. This is not um the town's job necessarily. This is
only for in-house action plan from staff, from paid staff. >> Yes. >> Not the volunteers, not from friends. The only thing that was um the that you were supposed to um
uh accept was the collection management policy. Those are that was something that needed to be accepted by council. Yeah. >> And that's done by us. >> Well, almost done. Yeah. Well, I you know like say for example the emergency
preparedness plan that is obviously you know was in place and that was off obviously a staff responsibility. >> Um but you know I you know I mean you've got timeline immediate what does immediate mean? Is that 2026 2020?
>> Right. This is something that was already done >> by Adam by Adam. >> Okay. >> So this was Adam's plan. >> It was Yes. >> Okay. This is the first time we'd seen it. >> Oh, okay. >> Am I right? This has never been presented to my knowledge.
>> I've never I've never Yeah. >> Some say immediate, some say intermediate. Does that mean it's it's they're working on it? >> Something. Yeah. That >> intermediate is something that could have been done right away.
>> It should say ongoing, right? Yes, >> intermediate seems that that's like >> I thought it was a >> coming and going. >> It's a sort of typo I could do. >> Yeah, it's either um you know a timeline is actually putting a time on it.
>> Adam did it. >> Yeah, there you are. >> Adam. >> Sure. So, what do we want to do with it? Do we want to go over it? And >> it's something we should read. But basically, >> well, I guess the question is I mean this is a document that can be easily
accessed by staff, volunteers, and cell >> and council members. I mean, and community >> members to review >> the acceptance or rejection of professional recommendations. Um, so
>> is it our charge to tell staff what to do and when to do it? >> No. No, it's not. Cell cab's on here a few places. Approved the emergency management plan. I thought we done >> right. That was >> that was done.
>> Here it is. Yeah. Page three. >> Clarification on sunshine. I'm tell >> write and approve a code of ethics. >> So then so none of these need to be accepted by council. uh the only the
uh the collection our collections management policy. >> Okay. So that's what this is >> which isn't on here. >> Yes, it is. Well, >> oh in other words, it's not okay. It's not filled out. Okay. Right. >> Rewrite and approve. Yeah. >> I think rather than accepted say
approved, I think >> or if this is only relating to that one policy, it just should say policy approved by council. But it hasn't yet. >> I'll not yet. Um I'll rewrite this so
that it's relates better to be takes a little >> at least we have an idea. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So this really isn't anything that's really applicable to Silabad, >> right? >> Excepting, you know, seeing the part we
play, which of course is minimal naturally. I would assume >> at least you you know where we are and what we're doing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's an update. >> The mission and vision is museum manager and
>> Cellcap. Strategic plan quarterly review is >> CellCap. >> I assume the ethics means CellCap >> to include cell. >> It's probably need to minimalist >> two right in the middle. There's four things that have cell cab
on there. >> Oh, yeah. Right. Uhhuh. Right. Exactly. >> I think rather than say right, I think we should say develop. >> Same thing. I mean, it's not, but I I get what you're saying. >> I'm just saying just got to >> I know.
>> And maybe there is one for staff. I I figure that the ethics thing was the whole deal with the friends board. >> Oh yeah, that was basically >> But we solved that. That's a huge
>> Oh, yeah. >> And and maybe that took care of that whole >> That took care of that. Yep. That was uh Yeah. Then we were to sign was a different time. Yep. So all right. >> Exactly. It's a different time.
>> It's a different time. >> Okay. If I can find my agenda here and all this stuff. Okay. I think um is there anything else that we need for discussion before we start going to uh members?
>> Anything unique? No, I think that >> I think we pretty much uh and Barbara is going to take care of our >> Karina will tell me when this will come before council for the approval of the collections management policy and that
I'll attend that meeting to um urge their approval and maybe just to give a general update as to what's happening. >> Yep. Great. Appreciate that. >> But I need to know the date. Absolutely. Okay. >> Okay. All right. Okay. Excellent. We
will move on to members items and reports. Carolyn, start with you. >> I have nothing at this point because I've already shared, but I I want to tell you I think this has been a very good meeting and I think we have uh laid some groundwork to move forward on a
number of things and um glad to be part of it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You and I will second everything Carolyn had to say and I'm bringing this up because I'm not sure where else to bring it up. I had been p I wound up being the recipient of some
documents that Seal had put together for the plays that she used to perform at the moundhouse and I thought it was important to get that to the moundhouse. So I presented it as a gift so my names up on it as but I said it on behalf of the friends of the moundhouse. Now the
question is now I have this document from the mountain house saying we had gifted it. So, I need to know where this should reside. It shouldn't reside with me. It should reside in some collection of official documents. >> Well, I know that in order for us to
receive um a gift, uh there are some forms that you need to fill out. So, we definitely need to talk to Brianna. She will give you all the documentation. >> This is this is Brianna gave me this. So, this is our this is basically our receipt. >> Oh, okay. >> So, I need to know who should keep this
receipt. So maybe it should be >> if it's from the friends. >> Is it from the friends or is it from Cellcap? It was all the same people. >> It was Seal. >> Seal. We did that. >> The play was so >> Yeah. So So should this should this be
the in the archives of the friends >> or does Sellcap have archives and it should be in the cellcap archives? >> I would assume Bana has something that shows that this was given to them. >> Right. Yeah. Yeah. This is the receipt. >> This is for us. This is our receipt. >> The receipt is made out to >> Right.
>> Well, she put my name on it. So then I added Friends of the Mountain House. But should it really be >> It should be Friends of the Mountain House. >> It should be Friends of the Mountain because we were the ones that did the play. >> Okay. So I will go back with Brianna and we will do a new version of this that says the donor name is Friends.
>> Okay. Also, um the friends needs to make a big presentation to council about the money that it raised, you know, which was in last month, November's um minutes. That's substantial. Was it $25,500
or something of that kind which was reported in at our last meeting? And is that going to be an actual presentation to council? Well, that money was actually the I'm not sure about the the number 25,000.
>> Well, I totaled it up. It was um the minutes from last month's that we just approved >> that uh where where are the minutes? Here we go. I added up all of the um the report.
So, the Friends of the Moundhouse approved blah blah blah. So totaling all of that up, I totaled up $25,000. And so was that all done? Was when was that was it not presented to council >> when we had our meeting inve
>> you? Um the who gave this report of the friends? Was it you, Ellen? It must have been you. >> If it if it if it was financial, it would have been Nancy. Yeah, >> Nancy Smith. >> Nancy didn't give a separate presentation because then it would have
stated that Nancy gave it. >> So, Karina, can you help us out here? There's some there seems to be some confusion. I just want to go back to November's meeting minutes and it says the founders of the mount house approved blah blah blah blah blah all of the
above. Now, I asked Karina about this and she said, "Well, yes, that was a gift given from the friends to the town." And I said, "Well, was there a presentation?" And I said, "It looks to me like it was totaling $25,200,
and if so, when was that gift given? >> And was there an actual public presentation?" >> There was I I can tell you right now there was not public presentation yet. Um, I know that Jeff is working on getting a blue sheet which is in order
to present this to council. >> Was the physical trans? >> Oh, we didn't >> transfer of those funds actually made to town. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, friends did give all of that money already to the town as a gift. Was
it done in compartmentalized donations or was it all done together? >> All together. >> All together. >> Okay. So, we vote the friends gave presented a check. >> Right. Right. >> Oh, wait, right, right, right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now it's coming. Yeah. So, the So,
the friends voted on it at a friend's board meeting and presented a check to Karina and it was all itemized in various >> we were funding. we were funding >> what you were funding but the the actual that you know that's a big deal. Friends should get credit for that.
>> There should be a big check and saying the friends donated this money and then you know gosh this is going to the roundhouse. >> I mean that's a big thing >> and we have done that in the past. I remember Jim Steele and I making a presentation and Yeah. >> Exactly. So why aren't we doing that
again? We missed that opportunity, but I guess there's no >> We're still We're still um we can still do it. Um >> I think we should do it. >> Yeah. Well, not me. I mean, it should it should be Beverly. >> Well, that's where >> that's a good idea. >> That's I think we don't want to drop
that ball is my point. We want to recognize the contributions that that friends have made on behalf of the Mount House and the town and for them to be recognized and thanked for it publicly by council. That's what needs to happen. I second that. And I also think we
should send out a press release on that. Um I mean, we've been getting a lot of coverage um up on the island from different TV stations and I really feel like you guys should send out a press release. I'll be happy to do it. >> Oh, well there you go. >> Great. Wonderful. Carrie, >> so but I I think that this needs to get
turned over to Beverly and and and Nancy because they and they're they're the board, not >> Yes. Yes. But I will I will take charge of >> So maybe what needs to happen if things like this happens that the representative from friends will come to
a cellcap meeting and and give us the report so you're not in a tough spot. >> Correct. >> Good point. >> Let's do that. Let's make that happen. >> We used to be better communication between >> I think we used to do that. >> Yes. Because before I was on self I would come to you
at least once. It wasn't all the time, but it was like >> Right. But once in a while, like once a quarter or something like that. >> Yes. >> So, I think that'd be a good policy to start. >> Yeah. And and again, we >> we got by without doing that because we all >> we're here. >> We were here. We knew.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We're confusing times. >> Well, we we don't want to get you caught in the middle, Ellen. That's the important thing. So, it's good that we have >> a friend's representative that's >> I will actually Yeah, I will I will communicate. So, so the they've added
additional board members that are really not familiar with the moundhouse, but the three that know are are Beverly Milan >> and Nancy Smith and Mike >> Hughes. >> So, that's the triumphvirate that I need to >> put on today because they were >> there is a number of us who are members
of the friends that need to also be in the loop because I get nothing. >> Yeah, I didn't get anything on the meeting. >> There haven't been meetings. >> The friends meetings >> just board meetings. >> Yeah, there haven't been meet. Well, there there is going to be an annual meeting that I think is now is it the 13th? >> Yes. >> Of
>> March at 9:30. >> When would we when would I know that? >> I think when it gets sun notices, they're going to be out tomorrow. This is exactly the same. >> So, what is it? March 13th. >> An annual meeting of >> Yes. of the friends >> of the friends.
>> And again, this is not me. This is >> just reporting. >> Yeah. But we had >> I was wondering I was going to ask about Mountain House meetings because I I had not heard anything either. >> There haven't been any 13th or 14th. >> There haven't been any. Okay. >> Time to get going.
>> Okay. Um Okay. My my report. Um I just want to thank you all for bearing with me. I have been very ill and then also I did have um you know a passing of my mother and several things. I've had to uh you know just take care of all the
details. So I've been a little um out of the loop. So So bear with me. Um I also want to mention that the friends had a play that they put on at Diamond Head and I don't know how many of you went went to it but but it was very
enjoyable. Um, it was there were a few little hiccups with it, but I think it's something that if we play on it because people were very interested in it. It was a play and a dinner >> at Yeah. at um Diamond Head.
>> Who was invited? >> Well, you bought tickets. >> Yeah, you was a ticket affair. >> The murder mystery. >> Oh, you mean the Oh, my the fundraiser. Oh, right. The murder mystery. >> The dinner. Oh yeah. Yeah, of course. Oh yeah.
>> And I think yeah, improve upon it a little bit. I mean, maybe where you had the dinner first >> and then we had this maybe break for dessert or something, but but it was fun and I think people enjoyed it and you know commend you.
>> Yeah. Um outside of that, um Barbara, >> I have nothing to report. >> You have nothing. Nope. Vicki, I mostly have nothing to report except to say that that the bench thing was something that the friends came up
with years and years ago as a possible fundraiser and Annis got going and then the benches that we liked didn't work and then how many could we have and all of those questions and you know I don't know how that all got dumped on you but
it wasn't you at all. I I didn't I didn't feel like it was dumping me. I just when I brought it up expecting to carry forth and get my act together, then then there was, you know, other reasons why it should not happen. So >> yeah,
>> and I didn't know about any of that. So, it it's been going on for >> we have had a long >> and the town the town also did benches along the >> sort of advertising benches along the street and you could or you had one I had one you could you could buy one for
650 and then have whatever you a person's name on it with an inscription >> but we lost them I I remember Jim Adhold saying that they planned on them and they were down by the bay what is it Bay Parkside
Bayside Clark and that everyone would be replaced because I asked about it but I've no >> haven't seen anything since >> I did he did respond. >> Oh, that was to the town. >> Yes, it was. >> So, okay. Um that's
>> nothing. >> Karina, you I think you we've worked you over. >> You're ready for a toddy probably. So, um, well, at this point, uh, it is 308 and I'd like to call for an adjournment.
Do I have >> So, moved. >> Second. >> All right. 308 adjourned. >> Well done. >> Well done. >> No, not really. >> Hear about your mother. I did not know your mother. >> When did that first Christmas right
before Christmas? I'm so sorry. Oh my god. family there.