Good morning. We're going to call the public safety committee meeting to order. Today is Tuesday, October 21st, 2025, and called to order and start with the pledge of allegiance. Okay, we'll start with a roll roll call. Want to start over here?
>> Sure. >> Kieran Ferrell, >> Don Thomas, >> Ron Benock, Todd Capella, Dan. >> Okay. Um, approval of the minutes from February 20th, 2025. We've kind of been
a while. Anybody make a motion to approve? >> A motion to approve. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? All in favor? I uh minutes are approved. Public comment. There is no one here
this morning, so we will not have any public comment. um selection of the chair and vice chair for this next season. Does anybody want to be the chairman? Because I would like to not be the
chairman because I it has been two seasons and I think someone new needs to step up. As evidenced by I couldn't remember turn the mic on. I don't think I have 10 meetings in yet. So I might be a little too green to handle the chairperson
spot. >> Anybody? Oh, come on you guys. Well, who who's so we don't even have a vice chair? >> Not not currently. No. Would some Okay, if I do the chair, will someone be the vice chair? >> I will be the vice chair.
>> Thank god. >> There you go. >> Okay. Karen Ferrell is our vice chair. I will do one more year. One more year and then I am stepping I'm not doing it. Okay. >> And if we could just put that through a motion. >> Oh, do I have to motion it? >> Uh do I have to motion each individually or just the motion together?
>> I would do individually if you could. >> Okay. Um we'll motion that Don Thomas is the uh chair of the public safety committee. All those in favor? >> I I. >> Anybody opposed? >> Okay, that's approved. And then we will
vote that Kieran Ferrell is vice chair for the safety committee. All those in favor? >> I I >> All those approved. I mean uh all those not in favor. >> Okay. Motion is approved. So chair is Don Thomas and vice chair is Karen Ferrell.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. You know, I wonder if I should should I move up for the um says old business. I'd like to put in um let's have for old business. Let's have the um fire chief
come up and talk to us. Chief Chris talk to us about the fire um update for that for our public um police and fire updates. Do that now. >> Good morning everybody. Uh, so I want to take just a minute to introduce myself
to anybody who doesn't know me. So, uh, my name is Chris Arminger. I am the new deputy chief here at Fort Mary's Beach Fire. Um, and just a little background on me. So, I'm 20 years in the fire service. I did my first, uh, almost nine years at Southtrail Fire District, which if you don't know is it's on the other
side of the bridge. Uh basically it covered say Summerland to 75 and then Pagefield to about Briercliffe big square in the in the middle of town. I worked there for nine years started as a rookie firefighter and then just uh worked my way up. So I got a lot of my
operational experience there and then a few years later I came over the bridge and started working at the beach. Started at the beach as a firefighter day one probationary firefighter and in the um I'm in my 11th year am now the deputy chief of the beach. So, I've
worked my way up through the chain. Um, I'm from Baltimore as a kid. We moved down here when I was about 10 or 11. And then from then, I've lived um I lived off Iona as a kid. So, I grew up just the corner of Iona and John Morris. Uh,
my my best friends lived on the beach. So, um, I spent a lot of time on the beach as a kid. I still do today. My father-in-law, he was owner of the Shamrock for 10 years. Shamrock Irish Pub. Uh he had beach pub before that a bar and miners plaza. Um I got married
here on the beach. Um had a reception at Ponita Bills. So like I'm very um tied into the island, you know what I mean? Like I have a long history on the island. I I enjoy the island. Always have. And and we raise our kids here now. Just on the other side of the bridge. I live right next to Health Park. Um so I'm just a few minutes away.
Um, and you'll notice if there's any after hours response, I'm usually from the fire department, the first one coming in because I'm I'm the closest. Um, so that's kind of my history with with the beach and and my role in the fire department. Um, this is my first public safety committee meeting. So, my
plan moving forward is to I'll provide you run data from the previous month. I've given you a handout this morning. That's what that is. And I'm always um here to answer any questions you have about that data or about public safety in general, how we can help you meet
expectations from the fire department. And I would also like feedback on what your expectations are from us so we can provide you with the level of service that you expect and certainly what you deserve. Um in my tenure, in my time here, something that you might hear me
talk about a lot is we are very mission driven, right? Our mission is public safety and that's the philosophy that that we take and we push from the top all the way down. Uh we are here to serve the public and protect the public. So u anything that we can do to facilitate that mission, uh we want to
do and I'm always always open to input and I and I seek it out um so we can do an outstanding job of providing you outstanding service. That's what we want to do. Um, so to get to the numbers that I gave you, if you look at that sheet, basically, um, what it says is there's
about a 50/50 split from fire and EMS calls. Before Ian, those numbers consistently were like 8020, 9010, somewhere in that range. A tremendous amount of EMS versus fire calls. Since then, we're about
50/50. And in previous meetings, I'm sure Chief Worth has gone over this with you. um that's been consistent since then and it remains consistent. And really what that translates is one way to look at this if you want to shape your perspective is with the EMS used to be much more right that's usually a
people problem and then the fire stuff is usually a things problem right so um we still see that we're dealing with a lot of things problems and that means really there's a lot of buildings still under construction. A lot of this 50% of fire calls is um fire alarms and
responding to systems. So there's still it's good that means that there's systems coming on board, those buildings coming on board. Those are things we like to see and we like having the opportunity to get in these buildings and help them come back online. But that's remained consistent monthtomonth um since then. And uh as that changes
over time, I'll certainly draw your attention to it and we can discuss these numbers and in any way you want. Um, but that's really what it's driving is we're still um dealing with a lot of a lot of things and um there's a lot of things coming back online and um we're always
here to to help the people and do whatever we can to help them out. Um, another thing I would just want to talk about while I'm here is if you have any interest in special reports um I know historically we've provided reports periodically on on incidents at like specifically like crosswalks or people
on mopeds or motorcycles or things like that. So, if you still want that or if you have a curiosity about anything at any time, just reach out to me and let me know and I'll provide that data for you. Okay. If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. If not, that's the end of my report.
>> All right. Great. Thank you. >> Wait, wait, wait. >> No, I have none. >> Oh, yeah. No, I have none. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Deputy Chief, before you walk off, sir. >> One thing I think the council would like to see through the um at least I I would like to see, I don't want to speak for
the entire council, but >> you know, we've recently changed the ordinance on electric bikes on sidewalks. >> Yes, sir. >> So, it'd be interesting to to see data both for the beach as well as because we've got it where we're going to revisit it again in about a year. It'd be nice to see the data monthly of of
any incidents that pertain to a an ebike. um whether it's on the sidewalk, doesn't matter. Just ebike in general because it'd be nice to to have the data to be able to back up any decision should we decide to change it or keep it the way it is a year from now or whenever we revisit it. >> Yeah, absolutely. That's something we
can do. You know, we've recently added some administrative personnel. We have two new assistant chiefs we've taken on towards the end of this year. Um and that creates an opportunity for us to spend a lot more time doing administrative work. So, generating those reports consistently and routinely and digging into that data is something
we can definitely do. Um part of the what we're going to do in that workload with these additional administrative staff is we're going to really start driving our um our public messaging. So for instance, we've had two incidents uh recently uh between last month and then
the first two weeks of this month. Uh one involving a moped and one involving an ebike. Um, and the s the takeaway from both of those from an operations perspective and a public safety perspective is to drive and reinforce
helmets. So like uh one of them was a more significant incident than the other, but it lacked a the genesis of what made it significant was um the person involved wasn't wearing helmets, right? So we just got to we want to really want to drive helmet safety with the bikes. But I'll yeah, I'll get that
data for you monthto month. It's no problem. Good. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Okay. El Ella CSO is not here today, so we'll move on from that. Um I would like
to add that section between four and between five and or six and seven. We'll put that there because a lot of times uh fire and um police need to get out of here earlier. So we can put that before we get to old business. >> All right. So old business. Anybody have
anything? I know it's been a while. >> I still do. I do. Um I know Tom's not here. Um we had done a bunch of work on um identifying areas in the town where
sidewalks were all missing. And we went out, we took pictures, we identified where all that went. And to this day, areas that I had hit anyway, um are still missing huge hunks of sidewalk. Um
people, you know, if you're riding a bicycle, there's no way cuz it's sand. You're If you are riding a bicycle down the sidewalk, you're moving out into the street, construction trucks are taking up. It's just it's kind of a mess. I mean, just it just doesn't seem like it's been looked at. And the other thing would be is that
um where the CATV or whoever else cut chunks out of the sidewalk, they filled instead of putting back concrete, they put in asphalt. Um, and at the time I kind of realized that you with the heat and stuff down here, it has sunk and so you have trip hazards and stuff up and
down up and down is most of that was up on the north end. But those are the two things that um, you know, as far as safety just walking down the street on the sidewalk um, still needs to be and I know that that's county um, but if there's something that
>> can be done. I've never heard Well, I could take that Jason if you want me to. The information was sent up to the county. All that information was I believe before Will was here when when Andy was still here. Um they are last I heard they were out for bid. I don't know if they've awarded a contract to do
all the repairs. So they have the data. Um when they do it, they're going to do it all at the same time. If you see they're here now doing the crosswalks. The county is doing all the crosswalk lighting. That's why you're seeing a lot of the cones and stuff in certain areas and you're seeing light poles that go up with the lights on them specifically at the crosswalk. and then you'll see a section where there's light poles and
then there's no that's the county doing their they're part of it when it comes to the crosswalks. Um we were looking at starting to do the vegetation along a sterile boulevard which is under the towns through the interlocal with the county. They asked us to hold off until they redo all the sidewalks so that
we're not redoing the work. We're not tearing up concrete, tearing up landscaping to then put it back down. So it is in the queue. Uh maybe Jason or myself will follow up with Will to see if we can get an update to set on to you guys as to where the county is specifically regarding the sidewalks, but it is in there. It is in there. They
do have the data. Um they're fully aware of where the locations are and they're going to come down. It sounds like they do it all at one time and be done with it. And my guess is probably when they're done doing the the street lights because I think they tied all of it together. >> Okay. So Dan, are they are they adding more um crosswalk lighting than what we
used to have? Because that was a huge >> Yeah, >> it'll be major major difference. >> Well, that's awesome. Have we have they and maybe I've missed it because I usually am on top of it. Have we seen like a layout of where they're going to have the lit crosswalks? >> Yeah, you can find that. I believe it's on the town's website. You can see the
phototric study. Um, essentially the gist of it is from the back of the sidewalk to the back of the sidewalk will be illuminated to meet public safety F dot requirements of one foot poot candle per foot or whatever. Yeah, >> it's one foot candle. >> That's amazing. >> So, back of sidewalk to back of sidewalk. We should I gave the update
yesterday in our meeting, but they they should be seeing the first lights coming on here the first week or second week of November starting on the south end as FWC comes down and uh gives their final approval of shielding and making sure the lights aren't shining to the beach. But you you'll start to see some
progress. They've told us that we should see all the lights done by the end of November, if not the first week or two of December, depending obviously on weather. >> I apologize. I was on airplane yesterday, so not see your thing that that you So, you know, it seems like it's it's, you know, it has been a very
long time, but, >> you know, three storms got in the way and it's not an excuse, but we're at least getting to the point now where you can, you know, now that the the emails have changed from when are we going to get lights to why do we have so many light poles? So, it just goes to show you that, you know, progress is, you
know, there's always somebody that doesn't like progress. And >> but I think once you start to to see it and again I'll reiterate if you get a chance if you're up at the corner of Crescent and the stop light at Crescent and and Eero those are the lights that you will see down ETO Boulevard. So that'll give you an example of how it
will be illuminated the entire length of the island and down every side street for not the entire length of the street but some of this some of this the side streets coming in from a boulevard. >> That's awesome. But to answer your question, yes, you will see much more illumination at the crosswalks than you
saw before. >> And remember, we were fighting it so much. >> It'll be different. It'll be much different. It'll be much better than it was. >> All right. Um, any other old business? >> Yeah. One question. I I talked to Tom a couple of times in previous meetings
about a yellow line down the middle of old San Carlos and he said that there's it's got to go through miles and miles of red tape and bureaucracy with F DOT and the county and everything else for if it's wide enough to have and whatever. But
it's difficult getting down old San Carlos. Everybody wants to drive down the middle there. So, you're just constantly >> Well, maybe when Tom gets in here, we he might have an update on that. We can just ask them if they have asked them and we can get an update from them on
that. Maybe they've addressed it or said had some kind of resolution. I'm not sure. >> Okay. When he gets in here, we can ask him. >> Okay.
Um, any other old business? Uh, new business. I have one thing. Um, I wanted uh if LCSO would have been here. Um, with the new crosswalk at the base of the bridge
with the light, I'm wondering how we are going to educate our drivers when they're coming over the bridge. If the light is green and the crosswalk is, you know, don't walk, they are stopping. and you're seeing it now because they're so
they've been trained for so long to stop whenever there's a crosswalk and um I'm hoping that we come up with some kind of plan or LCSO has something to get it going so that people when they're coming over the bridge of green they keep going and they're not stopping right in the middle of the road to let
two people go by instead of waiting for the light to turn red and then letting the crosswalk go. >> Yeah, I noticed this morning that there was a sign that I never noticed before, but it's there. It says, you know, you have to yield the pedestrians in the crosswalk. That doesn't mean you have to yield the pedestrians on the sidewalk.
You have to yield the pedestrians in the crosswalk. Right. >> So, to your point, it's it it can be confusing when you read that that most people are going to see that as there's people standing there to cross. I'm going to stop and let them cross. >> That's exactly right. And and you know, it's just like any big city when the lights red and it says don't walk. You're supposed to stop and that's when
the traffic can go. So, that was one of the things I was worried. And the other thing I wanted to bring up is um is FDOT going to um change the timing on the lights at each end of the bridge? I find it well it's I it's funny. You leave the
island and there's no traffic crosswalk and that light is it must be on a timer and it's turning to red and you're sitting there and there's just no it's not you know triggering from somebody coming from the left or right. And so you come over the bridge. I went over at 5:00 a.m. the other day and I'm I'm
coming over, there's nobody out and it's turns to red and I'm thinking, "Okay, this needs to be like on some kind of different type of timer or whatever or some kind of mechanism that it's stopping when there's actually traffic on the side streets." >> Yeah, I know that they're they've always told us that it's going to be synced with the all the all the lights will be
synced. Whether or not they've all been synced yet, I don't know. They did just turn that on this week, the one at Main Street. >> Yeah. >> So, it may not be fully synced yet. And I don't know, something we could ask is where the >> where the trip is for that. So if you're coming on Main Street from the west
going towards the base of the bridge, >> is it before the turn to go down to Doc Fords, right? Or is it after? Because you could be going to go to Doc Fords >> and turn and trip it even though you're not going to go use the light. So I don't know where I would have >> Well, that's it was trip. There's
nothing there. I was sitting there going, >> "Okay." >> It could be just that it's on a timer just just to get people. I know that they've, you know, they had it flashing yellow for, I don't know, a week or two just to kind of train people that, hey, there's a light here. >> Yeah. >> I yesterday morning I got stopped at it too and there was nobody there. So I I I
don't know if that's just part of the training, mental training that, hey, there's a light here. Don't forget to look for it >> because I have almost driven through it once, not even forgetting that it's there. So >> the sheriffs are sitting not too far away. >> Yeah, they'll remind you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, so generally.
>> Okay. Any other new business? Anybody have anything? Uh, Madam Chair, if I could add to your item a uh committee objectives for the upcoming year. So, I think a newer process at the town clerk's office is working with the uh town administration and council is uh
setting up informal discussions. I'd say during MMP meetings with advisory committees just as an update if you all are looking for direction or have projects or um just a forum to discuss uh the committee with the town council. I believe the public safety committee is
currently scheduled for the November MMP which is on November 6, 2025. Uh so we encourage the public safety committee to attend that. Um similar to the joint sessions I think you all have had in the past, but we're just opening that up. Um I believe AAC is also on that MMP and then periodically throughout the year.
Um committees are always encouraged to come back and kind of keep that communication up just in case you know you have any questions for council or just gives you another forum for discussion on that. So just wanted to remind everybody of that. Is that a 9:00 a.m. meeting? >> It is 9:00 am. Um and so, um we're encouraging, you know, the committees to
if you have objectives or special projects that the committee is thinking of, you know, that's a great time to kind of discuss those or get direction, you know, that sort of thing with um and then just as a couple updates more from the clerk's office, you still have three vacancies on this committee. So, we encourage the community if anybody um
out there is interested in applying for the public safety committee, there's still three vacancies. So, you can always put in an application with our office. And uh we encourage yeah anybody from the community to to apply. Um we are you know when we only have four members on the committee we do run into some quorum issues where we need to have
everybody there. So we encourage uh getting that committee filled and then that way you know we can make sure you all are able to meet. Um and then just another reminder too we have a sunshine and public records training for all the committee members tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. Um we encourage all the advisor committee members to attend that. Um and
I believe we're going to record that and stream it as well. So, if you can't make it in person, just encourage everybody to kind of get that annual refresher on the uh sunshine laws and the public records training. So, >> that be here. >> That'll be here, too. Yep. >> So,
>> and how long is that? >> I think we're aiming for about an hour, so it shouldn't be too much, but um it'll be similar to if anybody watched the one or attended last year's. Um our town attorney is kind of working on presentation, just a general one to provide to um all the committee members. So, and then that way if you have any
questions or anything like that too, that's your another opportunity you can ask uh ask anything about that. So, that's tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. Um, and then November 6, 2025, public safety committee and the Anchorage Advisory Committee are on the um I believe they're listed for the agenda for MMP.
Um, yeah. And then just another reminder, anybody who's interested, uh, we still have three vacancies on your committee. So, >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. >> Jason, how do people go about applying for that? >> Yeah. So, um, on the town website, I think is the easiest. There's an electronic application. Um, you can fill
it out and send it directly to, um, Amy Baker, the town clerk, um, or myself as well, and we can we can get those processed. So, um, and then typically whenever we receive those, it just has to go to town council uh, for their consideration and appointment. So, we can usually get that done in I say whatever the next upcoming town council
meeting is. So, probably within about a month. Um, but yeah, the application's on there. just requires um just a little bit of information about whoever's interested and we can get it rolling. So, >> okay. And since I'm here, >> sure. >> People need to know that they don't need to be a resident of the town or
>> uh I don't believe it's a requirement, but it it does factor into the considerations of it. But with three vacancies, correct? Yeah. So, that just that's more for town council's uh consideration when they're doing appointments. But in a situation like this where there's just the three vacancies, um yeah, I think there's a
little more opportunity for appointment. So, >> all right, we're moving along here. Uh, >> is there are we still in new business yet? >> Yeah, you can keep going. >> All right. Yeah, I do. Um, and this is going to be um just a a question. Um, a while back I noticed some of the side
streets were getting totally repaved. And this is kind of a selfish question on my side, but Sterling Avenue is just really tore up bad. And um, which is a safety hazard riding bicycles down it. Um it's just it's really tore up. And so
my question would be is is what um is the town doing side streets? Um I seen that they have and I don't know if there's a plan to continue. >> Yeah, there is a plan. I Jason if you could when you see Will if you could get
him to give an update as to how it relates with the or Frankie or whomever. Um or I can do it either way. It it's tied to the tier projects with the storm water. Um, I know that the the most recent one was around the Shell mound area. There was some paving that was
done there on some of the side streets. The ultimate goal is to do every side street. Um, as you if you've been paying attention to the council meetings, it all takes money, right? And, uh, there is a plan, yes, to do all the side streets. We just have to do it in a time
frame where we have to put the money out to receive the money back to be able to move on to the next section. So, uh, but yes, it is it is planned. And if if you do see that there's a a a serious public safety risk, especially on any street, let us know. We have sent people out there, whether it's our staff or someone
to get out there and and put some temporary pavement in or do something to make sure that it doesn't become a public safety risk. So, if you see something that we have missed, please let us know. >> Oh, yeah. Well, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Anybody have anything else?
>> Yeah. Um the traffic circle Uh I've noticed a well so far my experience has been a 100% uh that this has happened coming
from Time Square. The lights to turn to go to head down the island on a stero. The lights have arrows. So when it's red, there are two red arrows in the lights. So far, every single person I've
been behind takes that to mean no turn on red. There are no no turn on red signs, which my understanding is that means it's only no turn on red if there's a sign prohibiting a turn on red. So that I don't see a
sign that says that, but everyone is taking those red arrows as being no turn on red. So, if it's really not meant to be a no turn on red, then maybe we need to ask that those just be I mean, honestly, those should just be blinking
red all the time so that you can just come up, stop, and go. Uh or at the very least change them to a red light so that instead of the arrows so that people go, "Oh, it's just a normal red light. I can go up. I can look for oncoming traffic and I can go ahead and turn after coming
to a complete stop." So, >> we'll certainly make sure we get that information to them. You know, I think we all understand we're going to have some learning curves when it comes to that new roundabout. People are going to have to learn. Um, and it's probably going to get worse before it gets better
as we start coming into season. Um, but we'll certainly pass that information on. To me, it makes sense what you're saying. Um, perfect examples up at Daniels. You know, we've all gone to Daniels and turned right. They've got a big sign that says no turn on red. So, you know, don't turn on red. and then it
goes off when you can turn. So, we'll we'll pass that information on to FDOT and see if there's something you can do or give us direction as to what exactly that means. Does it mean you shouldn't turn? I'm sure LCSO knows too, but we can get an answer for you. I think the same thing is um so when
you're coming up the bridge now you can take that right lane to go over to take a right where it used to be only the buses could be on there and then at the very end you could scooch over but now you can go up and I don't think there's sign I don't I know there's arrows on the road that says straight but I don't
know if there's signs saying you know right lane to get on you know turn right to north the north end of the island or something. Food for thought. >> Yeah. Again, I think >> I think there's gonna be a lot of learning curves. >> A lot of learning curves. I think you're you're going to probably go through the
growing pains of people are going to be in the right lane at the last second try to cut over into the left lane. Oh, yeah. We saw that. >> You're going to you're going to see a lot of things that people are going to learn as they come back to the island and understand, oh, I didn't realize I could drive in this lane all the way over. So, I think you'll you're we're going to have some growing pains at
least this season and it'll only get better hopefully. You know, my concern has been, and I've seen it, you know, there's what, eight, 10 crosswalks there, and people are still crossing through the middle of the median. They're not going to the crosswalks. So, you know, our fears are
coming to fruition. And unfortunately, I think the fire department's going to have a few calls there at some point during the season because people are going to walk through at night or or do something. So, >> let's hopefully it's better than it was, but we're already seeing people not using the crosswalks. So, I think we
need to take a a better look and maybe this committee could look at if there's ways to to do barriers. I know we've talked about landscaping barriers. We've talked about things to try to direct people to the to the crosswalks. Um, but we haven't got a word yet as to when that's going to go out for bid to do the
plantings at the base of the bridge. Jason maybe has more information than I would on that, but I have not heard anything as to when that contract has gone out for bid yet. We all know Margaritavville will maintain it once it's in, but it it hasn't gone out for bid that I know of yet. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, we can get
an update for you though. >> Okay. Anything else for new business? >> Just want to if you didn't get a chance to see the meeting yesterday or if you haven't had a chance to get down to Old San Carlos, we now have lights all down Old San Carlos that light up solar lights that light up the entire road now
um as of about two weeks ago. So much safer, much much more illuminated to be able to go down Old San Carlos now at night. Um it's not the permanent solution, but it'll be our solution until we get through the CDBGR funding issue. That's where that funding will come from that we're working with on the
county. So as soon as we have the funds, we'll be able to see decorative poles and finished product there. But for now, at least there's some nice solar lights at work. Uh all the businesses have reached out and are very happy that that's up. So that's an update that maybe if you didn't know yet from yesterday, now you know. >> Perfect. and and just in time for
Halloween. >> Yes. >> Um All right. Anybody else? Okay. Um I think the next thing is probably that we need to talk about is when our next meeting is because we're about ready for adjournment. >> Sure. Yeah. Um, and Madam Chair, if I
could just add, um, Tom apologizes for not being able to make it, but I did also want to introduce the committee to Riley Baker, who's the neighborhood services coordinator, who I believe is going to be taking on a lot of the public safety committee um, lays on work in between the committee and and the town. So, I just want to introduce
Riley, and I think she's the one that sent you all the uh, information last week. So, I just wanted to put the face to the name with all that. Um, and then yeah, so we have your November 6 MNP discussion with council and then your typically scheduled November meeting would be believe that third Tuesday,
which would be >> it's the 18th and I was going to see if we can move it. >> Okay, let's see. >> And Riley, do you have anything to say or add? >> Um, sorry, I'm I'm coming off of a little
bit of a cold, so excuse me. Um, I just want to say I'm happy to be here. If you guys ever need any help with anything, feel free to reach out and I'll uh I'll try my best to get you the information you ask for. >> All right. Thank you.
>> So, we do run into the the Thanksgiving holiday. >> I know. >> Um, fairly soon after that. I just cannot be here the 18th. That's my big I'm kind of crazy in November. >> Let's see. So the 19th is board cab. The 20th is cell cab.
Um >> we have sand sculpture that weekend. It's going to be crazy. Could we ever do a Monday or no? That's always >> we could as long as uh so council's typically the first and the third um Mondays of the month. Um let's see. So
that Monday. >> So council was the 17th. >> I was going to say if anybody could do the 24th. >> No, you're gone. >> Well, I'll just I if we have it on the 18th, I will not be here. So I don't know. I mean, I can call in, but I can't wait. >> Yeah. And if we unfortunately, if we
don't have any other um committee members, then we wouldn't have physical quorum. I know. So um >> could we go to the 10th up a week to the 10th? >> I'm gone. That is my November is awful. So, I'm gone the entire week of the 10th and most of the the next week.
>> I could go early, but that's like two weeks from now. >> Or I mean, and you all do have the uh the MMP for November. So, um if that's a decision you want to make, then you can always wait till your December meeting is the meeting kind of. I mean, that'd be our marching orders at least.
>> I don't know. >> That would give you some direction then to work forward towards your December meeting. >> That wouldn't be a bad idea. Good idea. >> That'd be a great idea. And then we could come up with our >> I'm not 100% sure I'm going to be back by then. >> Okay. >> Should be, but >> well, at least we won't have to have a
quorum for that. It's a meeting, but we can get direction and we can when we come back in December, we can we can have Riley share everything of what their direction was so we can come prepared. We can also ask some of these questions that I've just taken down that you guys have asked. So that gives us,
you know, a lot of at least have all the answers so that we can hit the ground running. Is everybody okay with that? >> I'm fine with that. Okay. >> I get back on the six. I'll just see what time that >> Okay. >> What time? >> Nine. >> 9. >> Yeah. The MPs are typically Yeah. for um 9:00.
>> And if somebody does join the safety committee and then and we can have quorum on the 18th, we can always we can have that up there. I just know I'm not going to be here. >> Yeah, absolutely. And um I think is if we get some applications, I believe we
should maybe be able to put it on um the second November meeting to get that appointed for council um if that's if that's their decision. So, I mean, we can fill them fairly quickly um by December 2. So, um and then that would put your next regular meeting on
December 16th. Yeah. >> I have a LPA meeting that morning. They said LPA's that morning. Uh, we will I will double check. Um, let's see. >> I only know it because I was told that we have to we have to go in for something. >> LPA. >> So, maybe double.
>> Yeah, I'll confirm that one. I'm showing LP at 1:00, but yeah, we'll double check and see. So, we might have to maybe we'll have to move public safety anyway. But >> um yeah, we just encourage everybody if you can to attend that um M&P and then also just another reminder on that sunshine and public records training tomorrow at 10 a.m. here at town hall.
Okay. >> Thank you, manager. >> All right. Um there's nothing else. I think we will have motion to adjurnn. >> Make a motion to adjourn. >> I'll second. >> Uh meeting is adjourned. Thank you.