Hello everyone. It is August 20th at 12:01 p.m. and I would like to call to order the meeting of the Anchorage Advisory Committee. Let's do the Pledge of Allegiance. [Music] I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, let's do roll call. Starting with you, Ron. Ron FL over Sam Lur
Chris King Dad Lawwell Jim Adhalt Curtis Lo not present today are John Wesley Nash he is excused he was going on a trip and I am not sure about Jennifer
check on that all right do we have any public comment I don't see anybody for public comment so let's go to approval of the minutes has everybody had Time to look at the minutes from our last meeting on August 6th. Yes.
Any discussion, questions, concerns? Sam Lurri, I move that we accept the minutes. Have a second. Second. All right. Moved by Sam, seconded by Ted. All in favor say I. I. All right. Pass.
All right. Staff report and update. Um, so I have I have some updates, but uh first things first, we have um I'm Frankie here, so I'm going to um webcam take the stage first.
Hello, Frankie. Good morning, uh committee, madam chair. Um Frankie Kachic, uh development, community development and planning director for the town of Fort Myers Beach. Titles seem to change on basis. Um, I apologize for my sudden
exit last meeting. Um, we're in a state of flux sometimes. So, I apologize for that. Um, but um, what can I answer for you today? Well, first of all, why don't you tell us what it means to be community development director? What does that
mean? What all are you responsible for? And then I have more questions and I'm sure we will. Sure. Um, so part my my job duties um require me to do a lot of things. We all wear a lot of hats. We're a small town. Uh, so basically uh I I oversee the
department that does all the permitting um and all the development for the town whether it's residential or uh commercial development. Um with that I also am tasked with uh heading what tourism that the town controls which is
the moing field. It's our only uh bite at tourism that we have outside of the beach and that's controlled by TDC. So uh Curtis uh and I kind of go back a year or so when we started having our discussions and bringing him on board as as our harbor master. So I oversee see
that as well. Um, and then I also do a lot of the grant work for the town. Um, as far as uh writing and going out and getting I don't want to I don't want to clarify your own job description, Frankie, but I think you do a little more than that with respect to the beach. Chad reports
to you. Is that correct? Yes. Yes. the environmental side of it. Chad is excuse me, not only one of our um planners as far as envir on the environmental side when we go through our planning reviews, but he is also the manager of the beach. So, um you know,
he's the one who is uh deserves all the credit him and Michael Poff, which is one of our contractors that we deal with for re-imagining and re-engineering that entire beach um and getting all those FEMA dollars for the burm and and things like that after each hurricane. So, uh,
he he definitely deserves all the kudos for that. Yes, sir. But you oversee that and you also oversee the beach access points, all that. All the beach access points actually TDC falls under Jeff. So, our our community services uh director um part of public works is that that portion as well. So
the beach accesses that are controlled by the town um at least until it gets into the sand park are all done by uh TDC folks that work for for Jeff how and the ambassador/ enforcement people who go along the beach does that those are code those are been taken to
and given to our new uh emergency management and emergency services director uh Tom Yazo who used to work for me but now he's got his his own wing here. Mr. Riazo was at 188. He was going to
oversee. That is correct. That changed. That is correct. That that changed back. You you missed the spinning of the wheel. And and the only reason it did it it was it wasn't done in haste. It it was done to uh it made logical sense at the time to take those those elements and and and
put it there. But the the whole thing comes back to the tourism aspect of it. Um, part of what I do and the grants that I look at are very tourist laden, trying to get people to come here to our town. Um, not only to invest, but also to live. And, uh, so that aspect ties
into the boring field, which was initially established as a way to get tourism and safe harbor to this town instead of just having a hodgepodge anchorage out there where people were being pirates without being on the big pirate ship. So, talk about marine operations. Does
that still exist? And is moing part of marine operations? How does that work? So, every development that comes into this town, I'll start there. Okay. We we we look for things that can benefit the town. Obviously, when we have a discussion with the developer, um
what what can you do in your plan that would accent to what we do as a town? We know of a big development coming up on the Back Bay that was already approved. So in those discussions, you you say, "Hey, I I I need a spot for my harbor
master and and his team, or I could use a dry dock or a wet slip for our boat that we have." And those discussions go on constantly with every developer that we have. Um very few of them kind of step up to the plate with that because it is a big ask, right? Um you're
basically asking them to house one of your employees. We're just not there yet. So, getting back to the second part of that question about being marine operations. Yes, I am over that. And our our long-term goal is to not be in a communications trailer uh underneath a
bridge or even be to the the conics that was under the bridge by the dinghy dock, but to have our own hardened space. Um, as a town 3 years reserved from Ian almost, uh, we're just not financially there yet where we can go out and say,
"Hey, take that for sale sign down. I'm the new owner and here's your new tenants. And that's kind of where we're always going towards. We never give up looking for grants. We have a a lot of things in the works uh possibilities that we can get to get a hardened structure for our team. Um we understand
the availability closer to the bay, closer to the dinghyd dock. All the work that we've gone through with that. I I would love to have that as a centerpiece of that moing field. Um, so we're constantly on the lookout. But correct me if I'm wrong, marine
operations is more than just Morningfield. It's also canals and something something else. So what are all the other pieces? So that's where the environmental piece ties in. So we talked about Chad earlier being on the beach, but as the environmental manager for the town, he also helps me and Curtis, uh, we work as
a team and we we did all the the debris cleanup out of the canals. uh when we start getting into more of what hurricanes bring besides debris, which is silt and sand, um that becomes a major issue. And I know prior to Ian, the town had talked many times about
doing uh dredging at different parts of the you know, uh the area of the town and whatnot. Um honestly and realistically, you're you're talking about taking on a a monumental task to of the town at this current stage. again
looking at grants, looking at possible funding sources and partners with the federal government. Um we're always daily conversations with FEMA um on the PA side, seeing who can help us and who can't help us. Those haven't stopped in the last 3 years since I've been here. That will determine how the average
boater on this island who paid a lot of money to live on a beautiful canal and can't lower their boat lift down because they're silted in. Um, we were able to get all the debris and and 90% of the debris, the big stuff anyway, uh,
through a grant and through state funding. Um, so that part of the or portion of it we're good at. Uh, getting the silt, not so much. That's going to be a major endeavor. So, but that wouldn't cover part of marine operations.
So, marine operations is kind of a Curtis plus Chad plus you. It's correct. that dynamic is not just you Curtis does not just do the morning field right his responsibilities are far far reaching um you know not only doing what he does in the morning field which is
irreplaceable at this point but also getting out there and getting our name out there right uh we we talk about marketing I know someone who has a marketing background um but uh we we know when we had these discussions this year when we started talking about
budget we need to get our name out there we we we got a good thing going here. You know, every seems like every day something is good happening on this beach. Something opening, something new's coming, those type of things. That's where you want to be in. Um, as as far as what we have to offer, we may
not have the the posh conditions. Uh, you know, we we our services are are are more than comfortable, more than adequate compared to a lot of them in in the area. But having a hardened structure for our team to work out of, that that's still in the in the works. But once you get
the people here, I think we have plenty of entertainment venues to keep them occupied for that weekend stay that they're looking at. And Curtis and I just talked a couple days ago heading into season now, you know, we're going to be seeing a lot more of that people coming down for the weekend. Uh it might be warmer here than upstate or or those
type of things or people moving through during season. Um so we can really take advantage of that and I think he's really done an amazing job with his staff to get that morning field in tip-top shape. Frankie, from a budgeting perspective, is the uh marine operations and the moing field, does that split
when we look at budget for the town or those kind of co-mingled? They kind of coingled. Um so, and the only reason I'm saying that is the debris cleanup and all that was handled almost 100% by FEMA. Uh the last portion of it, we were so close to finishing and we needed what about another month and a
half or two to get to that final stage. And so we we met with our this is going in last year's budget where we had the funds available. Um, and we met with our finance director, Joe Anzac, and we were able to come up with a solution that we were able to pay. Uh, I think it was a little shy of $2 million to make up the
difference between what the state was going to cover to finish the job. And I'm glad we did because we were able to to get it done. Um, and that goes all the way back from Ian, you know, that was Ian, Adalia, Debbie, you know, Hela, Milton, the whole cast of characters
there that we've dealt with over the last three years. So, uh, that's a major hurdle, but they do kind of co-mingle. Um, the the marine operations portion when there is money budgeted for a certain project, that would come out of
a separate line item instead of just the morning field, but I know we got a lot of negative press about us being in in a huge deficit with the morning field. That really kind of is a skewed. And the only reason it was exceeded is because we're we're waiting for a lot of those funds to be reimbursed from FEMA. You
know, the dinghyd do, those type of things. That shows money coming out, right, that we have to expense, but it doesn't show the money coming back in to refill that. Does that also include um the boat Curtis is going to explain his boat build here shortly?
The new boat? Yes. So, so what we were able covered are we were able to find find some really good sources of funding in last year's budget that we still had available and that's what allowed us to to do what we wanted to do when we needed to do it. As
you're all well aware, we had a boat missing. Um, and that precipitated the the need to find a new boat and find one. And it we didn't want to be knee-jerk about it. We wanted to make sure that it fit his needs. um and the part of code compliance um because that was kind of a
dualpurpose boat that we had here before. And um so we wanted to make sure that if nothing else, he could do his maintenance out of it and for a few days a week or when needed, code compliance could get in there and and and do their patrols of the canals as well that they
used to do prior to. Um so that was what led to the search. He came up with some really three good examples. We sat down with our finance director and we were able to pull that all together. But again, that was out of last year's budget, not the one that we're currently in now.
So, are there some outstanding grants or insurance payments that might be coming in that would make the the overall number for this fiscal year for the Morningfield look a little bit better? They will once those FEMA the PA projects catch up and and they are allocated. Uh, which they haven't been.
I mean, trying to get a penny out of Washington is kind of tough these days. Um, they've all been approved by the state. they've all been approved and packaged correctly. They're just kind of waiting in limbo for them to be signed off on. Those payments will take a lot of that number that you just saw turned around. And then in our meetings that
we're going to be coming up with in the public here, um I think on September 11th is going to be our first one in front of council. You'll see those numbers changed a lot. And it wasn't nefariously. It was because you could you can account for this coming here and
that going there. when uh Joe was asked at that uh uh town council meeting, he had only been here uh been back with us for just a few short days. Um and he's a he's a brilliant finance director, but even he needed to kind of wrap his head about what happened over that four month
span. Okay. So, based on So, a couple questions. um knowing that there's money coming in that's going to offset some of the deficit from this past year. When we think about going forward, um
are all of the salaries for for Curtis and all of his folks, they're put against the morning budget, right? They come out of the general fund. Okay. That's that's where it gets a little perky, right? So So there's a line item for the morning field. So in that line item for the
morning, we have the morning bill all maintenance, which we know now that we have to do it twice a year. That was budgeted. That's moving forward. Uh we also have Curtis, Patty, and uh the two full-time positions um uh in there. And then what we had done is he had lost a
member of his staff that was a full-time. We brought that down to a part-time just to assist during uh uh the winter months during season uh to give his crew respit and work on different hours. So it is a general fund expense, but it it doesn't come out of community development or out of the
building fund. So to your direct question is it does all kind of get grouped together. So even though they may spend some of their time on things that aren't exactly the moring field, it's still charged against the Moringfield budget. And so when we say we're running a deficit,
it's not we can't make up all of that necessarily with the more because there's more. And I can tell you this, our projections when we sit down and we look at this, our projections for next year is actually we've been increasing every single year. So since since Curtis has got here and
kind of whipped that moing field back into shape. So as long as you can show an upward trend in any type of projection, I mean it's not like it was on the chopping block. No one's doing away with the moing field. um you know that that's not going to be the case. Um in fact, it's the opposite. We're we're
we're looking at trying to get more and and grow it even farther. So, what would a number be that you know, if we wanted to make the Moringfield operate as close to expense neutral as possible? What would that could you come up with that figure so we
at least knew what we were, you know, trying to achieve? Yeah, I I to me it's probably in the in the range of anywhere between 2 and a quarter and 250. And that would include everything that would include your maintenance and in a perfect world a a place for them. Um you know we were in
the old batanis in was that the building that we're in correct or were and uh you know after that got wiped out by Ian um I think there was a change of ownership somewhat in there. Um their building back we would have liked to been involved with a talk with them last year
when we we were kind of still had funds moving forward. Harbor House. Harbor House. Yeah. Um, but it's owned by Kansas unit underneath. Yeah, it's a cont. So, so I mean, we're still looking at all things that would come into an
expense and take that either out of that number I got you or it would lower it if it didn't happen. Um, right now we're in a communications trailer. That thing was it was designed to operate a few days out of a month and it sat for years and
we put it back into service and they've been so graciously of putting up with it. Uh we just don't have any other other place without moving all of them to the new town hall and that would just not make the mooring field operate correctly.
So if we could get 225 to 250,000 in revenue from the mooring field that would pretty much make us sort of even in terms of expenses that could actually be attributed to the Moringfield if you're asking me that. Yes. from based on last year's projections and
where we were. Um, yes, correct me if I'm wrong, but I just wanted to so so that deficit deal saw that number are our our our salaries are are included in that number. So just you know keep that in mind. Um
and um um but um I will tell you over the last year I've been here, you know, we kind of roughly bring in um um for the year we brought in um it's in the ballpark of around 215 215,000 a year.
So um we're looking to increase that this year hopefully um by just the number of of vessels that we bring in. But I'll touch more uh a little bit later in our meeting. And internally, we're always looking at strategies, right? How we can we can tweak what was there and what it was
designed to do. It was designed to not allow people just to drop anchor in that back bay and just charge their boats, right? So, this was a solution that the town took on for an environment environmental reason, but also as a way to kind of contain what we had back there, which is a jewel. We all know
that, right? We have seaggrass growing back there. Seagrass brings manatees. You can stand by the mouth house and look off that pier and you can see a dolphin come right underneath the pier. You can see to the bottom. All right. Where I live in Cape Coral, you can't see to the bottom. It looks like a cup of tea, you know. So, I mean, and that's
the close to Hatchy. I get that. But, and you can't really compare apples and oranges, but we have a beautiful thing back there and we want to maintain it the best we can. The morning field was designed in part to do that. In large part to do that, keep it clean and orderly. We have grants in place for the
pumpout boat. we can't increase those fees that was set in that grant. So they pay for the boat, they pay they set the fee. Uh we can only do a thousand mile radius, you know, from the original spot. So you think about a thousand it's not 1,000 miles, excuse me, 1,000 ft
radius, you know. So that's so uh what what that does is it it allows you basically to that back bay, you know, and over this past year, we were able to help some of our neighbors, you know, out of out of a situation that they were in. we can look to those neighbors now and ask them for help when
we move forward for parking or things like that on the other side of the bay. So, it's just being a good neighbor back there. You know, it's not just the island. We need to be a good neighbor for the unincorporated Lee County part of it as well. Um, and then to the south end of the island, there are opportunities for us to expand. There's
a easement that the town owns down by Island across from Islands and condos. Um and Amberjack. No. Uh Amberjack. Amberjack. Whatever that last street is. Amberjack maybe. I think it's Amberjita.
Well, then it goes to Amberjack. End of Yeah. But there there's a easement in there that was given to the town a long time ago through the county. And so we have a long-term thought of developing that into a pier or a dock of some type. Um you know, to help people coming in
through the through new bridge access. So there's a lot of things always in flux and we never quit looking. Um I can tell you that. I mean that's why I'm here. Is there room there for upland facilities on the east? We're looking at that as well. Um there's an opportunity possibly coming
up with uh again a former owner in that group of area of businesses down there that is looking to redo redo a uh piece of property that he has and he's reached out to the town again. Um, I'm open to anything. You know, I I owe it to my
staff. I owe it to the town to give us the best way. Our long-term goal is to have our own independent facility, our own jewel, so to speak. You know, I think you've heard the LPA, you've heard Anita talk about that jewel when you come over that bridge. That view is the
jewel that we all look at, right? I want when people come and hook up to our morning field, they already have a top-notch harbor master. I want them to also have top-notch facilities. And that may be a couple years out, but it's going to happen. And and and just like when people said development wouldn't
happen, it's happening. The right kind of development. So, uh we just never quit to trying. And just can attest to that. When that happens, we do get our own our own facilities and stuff like that. I mean, that deficit number we're looking at is going to get cut because that's
one of facilities. Now, that's included in that number. So, that is correct. Everything's going to kind of come back down to that to that even. That's about, you know, this is all the goal. The rent at uh at uh
Kansas is a it works out to about three grand a year, I believe. Right. Or 250 a monthish. Correct. Yes, sir. But if you have better facilities, you could probably charge a little bit more for Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we're all We never quit looking for that partner. Yeah. I mean, even with
the facility that just got approved, you know, even though they didn't have that in their plan, um, we've had discussions afterwards of what could happen. Uh, but again, you're looking at five to maybe eight years before they even put a shovel in the ground for that project. You know, we we can't wait that long. So,
but a 215, you know, balls 5 through nine, if we could get those open, the the quarter million, a half a million, that that's absolutely. I mean there's there's there's a lot of room for for improvement here and and stuff like that. We're working very hard to get
those calls back. We had that discussion yesterday, in fact, in my office of uh how we can approach uh there's a couple of different partners that have to be involved in that dance. Uh the Coast Guard, the Army Corps, um and and getting them all to understand the town's point of view, um and how we were
going to address it, Curtis and I. Um, so yeah, we we have a a plan in place that I think is a good plan and and can definitely be effective, especially with the core coming through here in dredging, you know, which is going to be happening soon. So, for this next budget year, what are
your major goals, challenges, and how can this committee help? What do you look to us for? Well, we need all the lemonade stands and cookie bakes that we can get. Um, I mean, and I I mean that kind of in a in a sincere way. we're we're at that that
juncture where the free money is gone. So after a major event like Ian was to this area, um everybody steps in, the federal government, the state government, and and they they allow for the ability to take grants with not
matching parts, right? So they're they're giving you they're gifting you that money to do with and you have to be accountable to that. Now we're back into that lap grant stage where yes, if we write a good grant, uh this last year was a good case in point. We wrote one
for storm water, for road paving, and I forgot what the third one was, but it we had to show the state that we had the other part of that money to do that project. That gets a little tougher, right? So, there are still free money out there, but you just have to be
really, really good at turning over those rocks. Um we have a great staff at the town that does that. Uh we've been very successful in the last three years uh bringing in a good chunk of change. I'll just leave it at that. Uh for a lot
of projects here. Um it's utmost uh on my my radar to make sure that this morning field succeeds. Um that was a commitment that I made to this young man when I brought him down from Jacksonville. So I wouldn't have done that uh just thinking, "Oh god, I got somebody to take that job." you know, I
invested in him as much as the town is going to invest into that mooring field. And um that's kind of the synergy that we need moving forward. My my my projection going into this next budget year is I know that we're going to increase barring any major disaster,
right? Um that those numbers are going to increase in the morning field. I know that through good conversation and negotiation, we can get that rest of that morning field back in operation and back where it needs to be to bring in that additional revenue. Um I I know
that we can make adjustments to get more people down here. We know that probably going into the middle of this year, we're going to have to look hard at how we can raise those rates. Not up to the ceiling, but we don't want to be the cheapest either. you know, we want to be somewhere in the middle. And and that
kind of it sets the tone, right? If you're paying X amount of dollars, it's like going to Disney World. If you if you go to the kids portion or where the kids hotels are, you know what you're getting for $99 a night. Kids running up and down the hall screaming, you know, all that kind of stuff. If you go to the
Grand Fian or one of those and you're paying $500 to $600 a night, it's quiet. You have the nice cocktail lounges. You have those. Somewhere in between is where we want to be at least for the next 2 or 3 years as we grow. Then you can sit there and sit back in your chair
and say, "Look what the town of Fort Myers has. We have a beautiful beach. We have all these hotels. We have all these businesses. Look at our downtown area totally revitalized." That's what we have to offer and that's a marketer's dream. We just need to get to that point. Can I just back up for a second and
mention dredging? Dredging is kind of like a buzz word when you said that. No, I I just got I got an email from Chad. He's been staying on top of that that uh it's happening pretty quick. Correct. I actually printed this sheet out for y'all today for y'all to look over. This is kind of the proposal and
the path forward for for the town. So, um you know, he uh Chad, you know, specifically told me to share this with y'all today and kind of get the ball rolling. So, we'll visit that. We'll visit that later. Okay. All right. I've had a lot of questions. Frankie, what questions do you have for
us? I you know I I just appreciate you and the group because when you had your your little cruisers night, you know, and and you hear the comments you hear the comments in the back of the room, right? The people that aren't involved in the voting community and saying, "Oh god, why isn't Tom doing this?" And then
you realize how many people showed up. They didn't just show up for the food. They showed up for the fellowship and they showed up because they're voters, right? It's the same thing as if you're a car enthusiast or a motorcycle enthusiast. If you have that core group, they're going to show up and they're going to help you. That's what I see
moving forward is relying on that voting community to help us grow. This is where we can get, but we're going to need that little push. Can I just add something? I think another thing that we did this past year was we included more of a a marine educational type setting with the booths
that we had and and that allowed people to also get an idea about environmental things. Uh created a bigger footprint, right? It was so it had to do with more than just voters. I mean it gave an opportunity to the people in town that maybe live on a canal.
They could go to organizations, ask questions, get information and and we have a very good tool to help you with that too if you want to get that part of the message. And that is Chad. You could ask Chad to come to one of our one of your meetings. I I know he does the the MURF meeting in that, but he has an awful lot more to
offer to that. Um he's working with uh FGCU, water school, things like that. that I know moundhouse has a water filter station and and that at the moundhouse. These are things that people want to get involved in, right? Like I talked about that beautiful back bay. Uh
my first trip here 10 years ago, you know, the golf is beautiful, don't get me wrong, but it was slathered with tourists. I was drawn to the Back Bay. So, as we drove up and down the streets, just my wife and I looking at all the the houses and and the little houses
back then, the little shacks and and that kind of stuff. And every once in a while you get a glimpse of that bay. And I remember going down Connecticut Street and I think the mouth was closed at that time. The gate was locked. So we we parked our car right by the gate and we got out and you could see just that water and I could see out 50 ft into
that water, you know, and it just that that's what it means to me. You know, you you it goes away real quick. It's harder to ever get it back. So, so that's the the important part about if you're a boater, you love the environment. You love the marine
environment. And if you're a boater that's just sitting there a weekend throwing your beer cans in, you're not a boater. You know, you're a slug that don't have anything else to do. We We want the good voters. We We want the people that appreciate the fact that it's no different than having a good car. You have an expensive car. You don't want to go down a gravel road. You
you tell the people, "Hey, I need a good road to take my car down." And that's our highway. So, we we have to really manage it well. Um, and I think uh the cooperation and the work that that Curtis and Chad do together, I think
that really helps get it. And he already knew that when he came down here. I mean, it's nothing, you know, new, I'm telling him. But that's the message that we can get out there. We've got something to offer that no other community has around here. You know, we're different than Santa Bell, right? You know, we're not an environmental
island. They were set that long time ago. We we struggle to find our identity going forward. I think Ian kind of helped us with that. You know, we're going to be an identity of mostly new homes being built. You know, our our demographic changes a little bit, but one thing that doesn't have to change is
how we treat the environment and what we have to offer people that come here. You know, it's not just that beautiful beach, it's also that pristine bay, you know, and you can access both from a boat. So, that that's that's the key thing as long while you're still here. And
this might be more for the vice mayor. Um, since we're going to take on some of this dredging here, um, Marco Island's doing 100 miles, Cape Coral is doing two or three times that, is there any way we can reach out to them for, you know, to help with our permitting and more more
so even the property rights since that might be an issue. Are we working with them or do we have any connections? I do have connections, but it's almost two different processes. Yes, they're doing dredging and yes, they're doing their canals. The city of Cape Coral has done their own dredging for years. I
live on a canal. They they do that. So, it's not like a a firm coming in here and doing it. They have their own bars, their own and they just make the accesses clean out. They're not just doing that. They are doing some major work as well, but those they got federal grants for. How about Marco? Is Marco simply?
I don't I don't know about Marco. And the only reason I say that is the the reason that the town got dinged from FEMA was we never could show a maintenance plan. So from the time that we were incorporated up until the time Ian hit, the town never took it upon itself to do any type of maintenance
work on those canals as far as dredging goes. So we're back. So when FEMA comes in here, they're more than than happy to give you money to help that. But you have to prove that you had done it in the past. You can't just say, "Oh, I promise to do it from here on out." They know that. But that
that's what put the town of Fort Myers Beach back because previous to Ian um you know with everything else going on whether it just slipped through the cracks or they just didn't want to do it it never was done. Just to reiterate the um the importance
of the canal canal the um canal canal cleanup and the debris debris removal. why that was so important because now that's our that's our maintenance records and our logs to moving forward for the for the dredging moving forward God god forbid we are
ever in that situation again. Um but if we are that is something that we could actually do again. So committee what other questions on anything? Does the town have or are you working on
the organizational chart so you can follow whose hat they're wearing today kind we def we definitely do and we can definitely get that to and share with the chairwoman and and members of this committee. Yeah, it it was just a a
brief little thing um that it kind of happened for what about a month or so and a lot of things were happening during that month. Um but yeah, originally it was under community development or under me when I got here 3 years ago. It's not going away anytime soon.
So an or chart. Does the town have an or we do have an updated or chart. We can get that. You just give us a link to it. We can take a look at it. That'd be swell. And any other questions? soon. I just wanted to give you this opportunity, Frankie, because with this
these deficit numbers that have been centered around the Moringfield and obviously some of that's going to be clarified in the next few weeks. There have been some, and I'm not necessarily an advocate for this, but I I wanted to give the opportunity to sort of opine on it. There have been some that have
suggested that the Moringfield is in a public entity is in competition with our local marinas and puts them at a competitive disadvantage. A and B, there's been others who've suggested that maybe those marinas could take over the waring fields and run them uh and
and and take the town out of that business. Would you comment on both of those theories because I know you've you've thought about this a lot. Yeah, I I I don't like the fact of somebody taking over something that we fought hard to get and and and fought are fighting currently even harder to keep.
Um it's not a financial burden on the town, nor is it a financial hardship on a marina to have a town with a morning field. We can prove those stats up and down the coast for the towns that do have operated or the cities or counties that operate a morning field basis of
all the major uh marinas in their area too. Um, where it becomes a conflict is when we're doing services that they don't offer. The only service we have is a pumpout boat and we service those marinas as well. Um, and I would like to get to the point where they do come to a
town hall meeting and do say, "Hey, I don't know what you guys are doing, but I I I you got to stop because then we'll know that we've gotten there, right, with our service, which is already five-star based on even where it's at. But as far as what we have to offer, right, our our our upland services, our
office, our just our whole general being a place to call our own, right? And we make that Nobody's going to take that away from this town. Competitive. What do we It's more expensive to go to any one of these marinas and hook up in
a in a wet slip than it is on our morning ball, you know? And that's part of the thing that we kind of got to look at and, you know, per night. And that thing that we got to look at so we can be more competitive. We're not trying to take people away from from dry dock or wet slips that are around the island. I mean, piggyback on that. And I mean,
if anything, you know, I get I get phone calls asking for a certain certain, you know, um I'm amenities that, you know, we don't we don't have. So, I mean, my first my first recommendation is is to
these to these other marinas. You know, I I give I give them the you know, I recommend them them the business. If you talk to the actual marina operators, cooperation that exists and and I think it's good and it's only going to get better. The the I think
some of that back fighting that you hear aren't from people that even have a dog in that fight and sometimes they're the ones that kind of muddy the waters. Um, we're going to do everything that we can within a a fiscally responsible way to get this to be the best operation on the
West Coast. Thanks. I I just want to give you an opportunity. Thank you. And it's just not about, you know, just just to us us as a morning field. My goal here when I when I came here was to bring bring everybody to together,
right? It's it's just not about the town's town's morning field, right? It's about it's about all the all the ent entities in the back bay, right? Like we want to work we want to work as a team team back there. We don't want to you
know you know take take business or you know anything like that. And I think you know just like just like Frankie said you know if you talk talk to the operators and stuff you know we have a very very good working relationship and
everything. So, um, you know, I'm I'm not here to take business away from anybody. If anything, you know, you know, I'm here to work to work with them. So, terrific. Okay. One small potatoes question. Um, at our last meeting, we
made a motion to ask the council to keep the money that we had as an overage for cruisers, $1,57,77.36 and appropriate as another $500. What do we need to do to take that forward? Did you already do that? I got I got your answer for you. Thank you.
So, um what you're going to have to do is you're gonna have to go to council and you're going to have to request Okay. that um just like we do like um um council has the uh committee committee reports. I guess that's when you're going to have to go and um ask ask for
that. And uh and that's along with the 500 extra dollars to the 1500. All right. Then I guess I will make uh an appointment to go to council at their next meeting. Just ask that to all guy. That's Yeah, that's that's going to be a busy meeting. So get there early.
Um but if I could just say one thing, Madam Chairman, is I really appreciate all of you investing your own time to make this a success. You don't have to be here. You chose to be here. And and and your interest should align with our interests. Um Curtis will tell you we
don't keep anything away. We're totally transparent. what we're trying to accomplish. Um, you basically see what we have. Um, hopefully it it it multiplies and grows very quickly here. And that was our thought. Um, like I said, I wouldn't have uh asked him to to
leave and uproot his family and come down here if I didn't think that he was the right choice to make that turn. And uh, we just had a little setback last year. We have a little setback here. Um, every town does, every place does. uh we'll get through this and you'll see
what uh what we can do. So, thank you. Thank you very much for spending so much time with us. Appreciate it, Frankie. Yes. Yeah. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. I don't think she got introduced. Oh,
well I sure you want to say hello to all of us and sure put yourself on camera. Thank you. I I wasn't expecting to be introduced but it's a pleasure to meet you all. I'm the community development manager for the town and it's been a pleasure to work
here for six months now. And your name is Georgina. Sorry, Georgina Sid. Georgina, can I just There's a lot of people interested in what you do. Could you just clarify a little bit more about what your responsibilities are because I think you play a key role in this town and I don't think people need to know
who you are. Of course. Of course. It would be my pleasure to say that. I I basically monitor the the permitting, planning, and zoning departments. Um, I assist with uh the whole process when from from
the application of the permit all the way through the reviews with Chad with with the flood plane managers with the planning staff uh to make sure that that the process goes smoothly. And um and
I'm I'm just trying to help out as much as I can, learn as much as I can, move the process forward so that it's easy and and easy to follow pretty much. Thank you, Georgina. It's my pleasure. Have a good day, everybody.
You, too. All right, Curtis, you're up. All righty. Sounds good. So, um, got some things to discuss or some updates for you all. So, Um got an update on our the construction of
our boat. Um right now it's being the bottom painting is being is being done right now. Uh we have an estimated a completion of October 28th right now. Um so we're very excited about that. Um and
uh look forward to the new for sure. So, um, and then next up is, uh, the dinghyd dock, right? We've all been anticipating this, you know, especially me, but, um, um, I got an installment date of, uh,
September 1st right now. So, going to happen in a couple weeks. We are making arrangements and planning accordingly down in the morning field. We have to uh um we're going to be blocking off some some uh some parking spots underneath
the bridge right there as you come off the dinghy dock. So that parking lot pretty much is going to be taped off for that week. Probably starting the weekend for the 1st. So I know that it's a holiday weekend, but that's next weekend.
I know. I know. We have to, you know, that's what it is. Do we have some temporary um thingy dockage at Matanzas while we move? Yes. So, what what what is going to happen is um we're going to take one of our docks that we have right now and we're going to lay it up alongside the Matanis dock. We got permission to do
so. Um so, um that is uh that's the plan. Um but um everything um I don't expect this uh project to take to take too long. Um, every everything has been
uh preapped and all that. So, it's pretty much just taking the old one out, sliding it in. The biggest the biggest hold up is probably going to be putting on the extensions to to the piles or the part of the project that will take the longest, right? Um, so, um, hopefully
any new pilings at all or we're using what was we are. We're using what we have. We're just going to put 4 foot extensions on on top of this. So, um I discussed about the funding for the cruisers. Um
so, mentioned that. Um now, um the boat ramps and stuff like that. Uh getting those resurfaced or regraveled. Um I'm I'm in the talks with the town to kind of push that, but kind of like what Frankie mentioned, right now with the
funding and everything with the town, it's a little bit difficult. So, we're trying to get through this uh uh the end of this physical year. Um we'll see what we have left over to move to move forward on that. Uh Frankie talked a little bit about our offices and that we
are trying trying very hard to um get us out of the trailers like you said. So, um you know, we're always kind of looking like said, we have some ideas in place right now. So, once those get a little bit more firm, we will share that with you. Sam
had said something that was interesting to me that I didn't know. So it at Harbor House where our old office was correct. The condo that we utilized within Harbor House was owned by Matanis, correct? It just happened to be. Okay. Cuz they had it. Okay.
Yeah. So um and they own the other space around the corner from it as well. And that's already been rented to someone else then? No. No. So is there No, it's vacant right now. Is there a chance it could go? So um it is, but it all depends on the town right now. So, um it I I just got
noticed that they it is it could be available for rent again. Um I know the the owner was um he did not want to rent. We asked him to rent. He did not. He wanted to sell both
uh both units and one one set price. So, but We'll be doing that if if that if that works out. So, um that's pretty much my updates right now.
Um I do have Okay, so actually I wanted to share this like going back to last meeting, right? um for the reports that I given you and the numbers. I know that it was kind of a lot of a lot of a
lot of confusion there. So, uh we generated this this report and I hope this is going to work out a lot better and I think it's a lot easier to um uh uh understand as well. So, um what I have here, you're looking at the month
of July, right? Um and so if you see space group, these are the amount of 40footers in the reservations that we had. Um these are the boats we had in these spaces. So we had so we had 11 boats in the 40ft spaces for the month
of July. Um this shows you the space name of what ball it's on. And then it shows you how many nights they have been in the morning field and the dates that the reservation started and where it's at right now. Um and then
that goes down to the 50footers which we had 35 reservations for that month. Um 60footers we had eight the 70 footers we had the four and then we had the two for the 80 80 footers. Um and the last page
is the number of pumpouts that we've conducted for the month. And then also um you have you have the revenue, you have last year's revenue, and then you have um 2023's revenue.
So it's right. How is the revenue number different from revenue from 2024? Why is that disparit? What do you mean? Why are we down? Well, no, no, no. I mean there's revenue. Oh, I'm sorry. Because we're in 2025 due. Sorry, I'm not tracking there.
And that was the revenue for the month. Just the month of July. Great. So, we have a historical view at let's say Lumu has been with us for 230 nights. We know that. But you're only ascribing the amount of nights to this
revenue figure that are in July. Correct. Correct. Yes. Yes. Yes. And is this easy for you to pull from docu without any manipulation? Yep. We've had to work on, but it's not it's not like I said, it's uh similar to
the reports we have to pull from revenue and stuff like that. So, we just added some line items and um you know, kind of divided some things up so we better feel and separate the numbers. I think this will be very nice to to analyze and graph.
This will be something I can provide until each meeting each monthly. See, I just had a a query from our friends at Beach Talk Radio. This information is not in the agenda packet. Is there a way we could put it in the agenda packet?
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I can add this in here. Yeah. And then what do you want me to list this as? As is like um change past reservations for the monthly reservations or whatever. Okay. Okay. This is the agenda packet though, right? This the canal
canal dredging. No proposal. No, no, no. I'm just not because that that's going to be interesting people on the island are going to be very interested in this. So, could you could you somehow include that electronically so the public could have access to that Nicole send that to
Yeah, I will ask if we can put that in there because our our friends at Peace Talk Radio are watching as we speak and and they're interested in getting this out to their listeners. I was just to ask you when you brought up revenue just the just the last discussion we had before
the vice mayor spoke there's no revenue on this sheet other than for the pumpouts. No that's the total that's not pumpouts 55 pumps. I I know I it's that's not related necessarily. It's included in the overall revenue
total, but that's just Chris. Literally more than uh three times almost four times what we did last year in revenue. Two years ago. No, two years. 2024. We're down slightly.
So maybe after that's like a monthly reservation. Yeah. So why don't you put a 2025 in that revenue? So we're just Okay. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. 25 for current. That does that make sense to you, Ed? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was all I thought it was all pump outs that
No, pump outs is just sort of a a number. And are we still charging $5 for pumpouts? Is that what it is? That is that is the the vessels that are not that are not in the Anchorage. Okay. I mean I mean that are that are in the
Anchorage, not not in the morning field. Um we are um if you stay if you stay in the morning field pump out isn't is included correct? Yes sir. And we have a lot more than 50 55 is
just the are the people that were outside of the morning field or is that total pumpouts? Um no that's total that's total pumpout house right now. Is that number about the same as year over year or are we a little higher? No, we're a little low right now. We're
low because we're but we're we're at the slowest part of our season right now. Yeah, I know. But I mean year over year yearover year. I'm not I'm not sure. That's something I'd have to check. I I don't even know that before. So I I not going to go back. But that would be another nice thing if
you could add a year-over-year thing to show us kind of a year to date or a year-over-year. Yeah, I just think it'd be interesting when you look at the pumpouts and um the occupancy, it'd be an interesting number to see how they correlate and also how many extra
pumpouts we're doing along the way aside from people in in the morning field. Um if we have 40 boats on the on the morning field all month long, we're only doing 55 pumpouts. Does that seem low? Or some people aren't pumping out cuz they're either not dry
or once every two weeks. A lot correct. A lot of people are not are not on their boats right now. Other people's have um some uh bigger tanks or um suppository heads. So um they don't need
they don't need pumpouts. So um you know that's why you think that number is a little low. So you know it varies. Chris, I just kind of scanned this real quickly and it appears to me that we have about 30 people that are
what I would consider long-term uh long-term correct people over 100 days. Correct. Is that pretty typical for us or is that Yes, it is. Okay. And remind me, was there a length of stay that was a maximum or not?
So, you can do a maximum reservation on DACA for 6 months. There isn't a match of how long you can stay in the morning field. You know, I have people that that live on their vessels, right? And they would just renew them within six months. Correct. They can't be more than 10% of the of
mornings of people who stay longer than 6 months. The official are the official living boards, people who live in there there full time. Now, I mean, they're both going to stay there as long as they want to keep paying. I I don't think people say there
for a long time, but they're not living on it, you know. So, the number of liberal boards longer than 6 months, they're less than 10%. Yeah. I mean, yes. Yes. I want to say that. I mean, I mean, I don't have the
exact exact number. I mean, that was a reg full time. You know what I mean? I don't know how you regulate that, but what what document is that from? Is that the land lease or the orders? I I'll have to go back and look, but it's everything.
It's the land lease. We they wanted to restrict to a certain number and there were arguments about how many we could have and the last number I remember was 10%. Uh and that's I think 10 a total of 10 not 10% I think
it was 10 10 people 10 people 10% um I think that was that was to keep the field moving at least I mean right now I can only think of probably two people right now that are actual
from Fort Meyers that live on and I'm sure it's you know guards against their request as well people a lot of people will come here they'll stay for a year and then they'll and then they'll move on. You know what I mean? So I think this is so it's hard to kind of get that number or
ask somebody the rule was that liverboards not not dry storage but liverboards who uh were there for longer than 6 months had to leave and come back. uh
and so there and they were assigned I guess it was 10 uh balls or and that was all you could use for that purpose. So it was trying to limit people who just moved in and lived there
beyond 10 people. But there was a walk around. There was a walk around before leaving coming back. Work around walk around here walking on water. But there was there was people that there was a uh a method to stay to
stay whether it was leave and come back or use another uh use have another permanent address or that's in the documents our original documents that we that we have. But but in truth apparently we're not
anywhere near that number. So that's not a problem. We just be aware of it. Okay. Any other questions about his reports? And also, um, Ted, was that something that you put into the packet
that you want to talk about? Sure. Um, uh, Curtis very kindly shared with me a monthly calendar with a number of days. Uh, there were
nights that were used each day. And this is data that we used to keep or it was kept and somewhat uh erratically um and uh the
May uh the average um occupancy was 43.7 June 4 38.4 uh July 38.3 and August 38.2 two uh I
don't know whether you can see it from there here but the little line down there is the occupancy during that whole time and that's how much it varies I um I am tried to analyze it for okay
is is there a pattern for each week and I could not find any pattern I mean for each day of the week yeah I couldn't find any pattern for the day of the week And um it in this as well is a a graph of
the yearly occupancy from 2009 to 10 and the occupancy during the months that we now have is well within the range of previous years. uh the
previous data was distorted because of reporting uh as people change in the office, you know, it would badly and it uh looks like u the last couple of these are out of bounds and probably not. But
in general, we've got all the months and through the years of uh occupancy and for this time of the year, we're in the same general way uh that we we have been previously. So, it's it's not
particularly out and we'll have to see the rest of the month. I was surprised that uh we have 70 malls and we're not all usable. How many usable?
We have we have 89 morning balls. Seven of them are not in service right now. So we got 80. Is that what 89? 89 total. Yeah. Okay. And we're therefore on the average uh monthly average half full.
So yeah, correct. So that gives us lots of room for for improvement. U and I assume that warrants some advertising and whatever we can do. And that's where the marketing planning things like that.
So we have an idea of kind of promoting like boat shows and stuff like that to try to get some. We've we've already caught up to about where we were before all the crashes. And uh it it's discouraging and
looks like a lot of room for for increasing our impact. And the biggest part is like these down months, right? What what can we do to fill more spaces now, right? I mean, we do very well during season, right? You know, so it's like what it's what we're
looking at as a team like you know what what can we do to bring to bring people in in the offse? So I mean that's where we can increase our revenue more that will help with the deficit you know all the above right so
still have room to improve during the season because yes yes correct when you look across the graph uh there only a couple of months above 60 and uh so it it uh we across the more we need
improve. Absolutely. Well, and now that we're getting more events during the off season and we'll have more restaurants and shops and things in the season coming up, that makes another, you know, opportunity to promote what's going on on the island that it's just not a nothing during the
summer. Although, I will say it is awfully nice to be able to drive around on the island from the south end. I don't know how we communicate it, but we've got now two concerts at uh Bayside, Fridays and Sundays, and we have the the markets opening again on
San Carlos coming up. I don't know how we put that out to any c any I will say um we reached out to to the chambers chamber of commerce. um they are sending you guys all their like newsletters and
events they have for the town so we can try to promote that off of our off of our social media pages for the for the potatoes past field and kind of you know help the town and dust right trying to get more more votes into the morning field to come see the concerts maybe you
know come in for a night stay you know that kind of thing so um that's to Sam's point the farmers market's coming back at the at the Mos property Okay. Not Time Square. All walking distance. All walking distance. Okay. But didn't we add I thought we added the
link to the chambers information and calendar to our DACA site. Yes. So that's there and that's already But I'm saying like we can do post to get people out there. So it's just not Yes. Correct. Any other questions or thoughts about
the documentation that Ted and Curtis put together? Looking good for you guys answering your questions. Curtis, do you want to talk at all about this or is that premature to talk about this plan? I mean, um, what I can do is kind of just um have y'all I can I can bring this back
up next next meeting. I just wanted to get it out there for y'all. Um, and for you all to review it. And like I said, I could put this on on the agenda for next meeting. We can discuss it more. Um,
even um I can even get give Chad with us to find and madam chair that what you're referring to is the document that's entitled FMB canal and channel dredge funding path forward correct is that correct correct yes thank you can I just go back to when the core is
going to dredge again Frank you said the core was going to come in and dredge so there's a sign being done for the matanis past um um matanis past so um after the beach beach reourishment
project there has a channel has moved. There's a SH that goes into the channel. So, they're going to realign realign the channel. So, there's going to be some dredging and stuff at Bage Point. Yeah. Well, correct to from So, it goes from Bage to to the
bridge or just No, it's just that turn the path is right there which they adjust about every two or three years markers anyway. Yes. We're trying to um you know we're trying to work with them see if they will realign more of the
channel to get to get more in but that's not that I find so because we only need a couple too much on that we only need a few feet to get to for those to work. We only need a few feet to get those 50 foot u to get those
unusable balls to work. We just need a little bit more space. Correct. Correct. But you're fighting there because that's the it's a tight turn right there. So we really don't have a lot of space to work with is it's it's kind of a fine line. So that's where you know um you know that's Army
Corps but also we need that's where we're coast guard on it as well. So um but that's probably going to be separate from that from that project opening with those those six balls. So we don't we think we can get them in that that
project. So it's going to have to be a separate separate discussion and that's what we're working on right now. So just a can I ask a procedural question madam chair this this FM canal and channel dredge funding document path forward is this being brought forward
just to the to the acreage advisory committee or is it also going to the MURF committee? No, this is going from the MURF committee. Chad Chad asked me to bring this to my my committee here to y'all um to get y'all to kind of get on board with it and everything so we can promote
this and move this forward. And I see this in a completely collaborative way, but do we have a sense as to which committee will have jurisdiction over this project? Will it be joint jurisdiction? Will it be PER? Will it be Anchorage? Do we know yet? Do we We don't know that yet. It's it's going
to be a joint thing mainly, but um I don't think we don't we don't have to I mean I mean Chad is pushing this whole thing. Um we working at hand. So um that's just where we're at. It's at the
beginning stages to push this. Yes, sir. Yeah. I mean I think we've talked about it that it's this committee's purview from a navigational perspective but probably Murf's purview from environmental impact. So there might be overlap there. Two different
perspectives coming together to make sure that everything is covered. Definitely going to be heavy lift. Curtis, it sounds like you want to maybe hold this to the next to the next. Correct. Correct. I just wanted to get in front of you all now. You have an idea of where we're looking and and what what
what we're going to be pushing and Okay. discussing in the future. Again, just scanning through this. I see that um the assessment resolution has to be adopted prior to September 15th of each year.
So that any dredging that we would do potentially would be next year. Correct. There's nothing happening this year. It's it's we're not even not even ready. There's not funding available. Nothing's happening this year at all. And I've tried to mention that
before earlier on in the year and stuff like that. There's when we say year, you mean fiscal year. Correct. Yeah. Okay. So, part of the reason that we wanted Frankie to come talk to us and kind of give us the overview of the department
and the way forward for the field was to understand vision and how we can support that vision. So, um you all should have that FNB anchorage advisory committee charter information. talk to us about uh
where we are with revising the ordinance and how we should think about um updating our roles and responsibilities. If you look at page five through five and six, it kind of compares what's in the existing ordinance and some things
that I put in that I think maybe are better and more aligned to what we really do rather than some of the things that were in that ordinance from years ago. So, how do you think is the best way forward? And I know Ted, you have a definitely have a perspective on this. So,
but we're going to discuss it future. Yeah. So, where are we with this ordinance? How soon do we need to make some suggestions for the updating of the ordinance because I think predicated on I say let's let's make this one of the main topics for next for next meeting.
Okay. Let's let's start really diving into that. I need I need y'all's suggestions of what we think that we need to add to it. Then um I will bring it I will bring it in front of uh front of Frankie and then we'll discuss we'll add add to it and make the revision for
the for the ordinance. Um and then I will get with them to see if we going to add anything for emergency response. Last time I talked to Frankie, emergency response is kind of already it's already kind of part part of what we did. You know what I mean? there's an
emergency on the water and us as as a captain, right? Um um you know, once you once you receive receive your captain's license, it's your it's your duty to um if there's an emergency on the water to
to lend a helping hand, report it to the Coast Guard, do whatever it needs. So, that's kind of within our job duties already, you know, that's kind of kind of the no, I guess, for us. So, um, if there is a major emergency on the water, god forbid something happens in the
ocean or or or whatever, right? Um, you know, we we we're going to be going to help out as much as we can. Um, and especially if we are the first ones on scene, right? We're going to do whatever we can to make the to make the situation
safe until until higher up higher up authorities get on scene and take over, right? So that's that's always kind of a uh that's always that's already, you know, in our job job description and everything. So but um but yes, I would
love I'd love to get rolling on this. I know that there's been some bumps in the road and stuff and this has been put on hold for a little while. So it's it's it's something that I want to start um get this done at least, you know, um we can shoot to kind of have everything in
by October, you know what I mean? in that start of the new start of the new physical year and if we can um you know so next next meeting we'll bring all the suggestions and you know the verbiage of what we want to put put in y for us here and then um then we'll move
forward and try to make that revision and we should be able to meet in the new town hall next time correct yes because um there is I just got I just got word today that there is going this could It's It's going to be opening in
September. September 10th. The ribbon is the ribbon coming. So, just one question. Are they going to keep that room a little warmer than the I hope so. Bring your own blanket. Open ice rink in this place pretty soon.
It's going to start snowing. So, hopefully maybe there's like either a whiteboard in that room or a clipboard or something so that we can write some things. I'm sure they'll have they'll have something. And if not, do we have a date September meeting for? Yes, it is September 22nd
and 9 a.m. So, anything else for Curtis? Yes. I I have one thing. I Is this a member item or is this a Curtis? This is This is a Curtis item, I think. All right. So, um it is hurricane season and I had a thought that um maybe you
could get together with Nicole and if there is a storm getting close, you're going to be super busy and I wondered if you could put together a quick email. Can you email all the people on the anchorage at once just by just by
sending by anchor it by the anchorages? No. No. Morningfield itself. We already do that. That's okay. So, what I would suggest that if it's if there's a a tropical storm or hurricane within 24 hours imminent, it's a watch. If it's a warning, it's 48 hours. Correct. And
there's also something that's called in the box with it's a real estate thing, but I think it's a common thing with a certain perimeter or something. That's for insurance companies. Is there any way you could pre-write those things that if there is a storm that gets close with instructions to the
voters that there's a major hurricane coming, we suggest you leave. However, if you don't chafe guard, we're at safe harbor. you know, for those different circumstances of a hurricane warning watch and
possible possible and a tropical storm warning watch to tell them to either beef up or find safe harbor. You know, probably if there's going to be a hurricane warning, it would be please try to find somewhere else if you don't. You know, we'll take you or we'll keep
you, but maybe some tips on it. That way, if something's coming, you don't you're you're going to be scrambling anyways. You can just hit that or we're having last year we did we did post stuff online about that and Okay.
So you already have something ready to go. You already have something kind of ready to go with the with what your thoughts are. Absolutely. Instructions to them because they're going to be looking at weather channel and everything else where the instructions from you might be more important because you know they're in the field. And I and I and I speak to the voters
too that are, you know, that that are here right now and stuff like that. Like I have a couple voters that came in this week and they were, you know, taking down their sales and getting getting prepped and stuff like that. So, um, but we we definitely communicate with the
voters that are that are in the morning field. We send them mass emails out and stuff. I know that y'all don't see, right? But um and I know that um to pick it piggy back off of like um you know what Lee County says with hurricane
warnings and stuff like that. So So you got one ready to go. You don't have to start posted them before prior. You don't have to you don't have to start from scratch. You got something ready to go where you can just adjust it for the circumstances. For the most part. Yes. What's your recommendation as you
mentioned at the last meeting is for them to leave. I I Yes, I do. I do. I I recommend our long-term people or somebody uh especially the liverboards right is you know get your vessel underway and and seek seek better water. You know a lot
of the people will go up to um the locks of the locks in label. A lot of people go up to label and um you know and that's kind of a more of a safer haven than we are here. Right. So, but
also, you know, I can only recommend so much ultimately it's up it's up to the voter and you know they are at their at their own risk and that and they and they understand that. So, anything else for Curtis?
No. Okay. Uh public comment. I got one more thing I got to do. Okay. So, I have a public service announcement I have to do. Okay. Um so it is for um obviously we have
um we're going to have uh three three openings um coming up for our for our committee here. Um, so, um, it's going to be, um, Chairman King, Ron, Ron,
Ron Fleming, and Ed, uh, my school number. So, um, I recommend y'all to put in an application if you haven't already. Um, and I have to read this announcement for um, you know, anybody else in the public
that wants to uh, put in an application to join our um, uh, on the committee here. So, um, you know, bear with me in my my speech here, but I'm going to read this here. Um, public announcement
advisory advisory committee vacancies. As a reminder, members of the town advisory committees are appointed by the town by the town council to serve two-year terms. The the current terms for
for several committee members are set to expire on on September September 30th, 2025 which will which will result in vacancies on the following
on the following uh committees. Anchorage Anchorage Advisory Committee. Three, audit audit committee. Three, Bay Oaks Recreational Center Advisory Board. Four, Marine Marine Envir Environmental
Resources Task Task Force. Three, Public Safety Committee three. In anticipation of these of these vacancies, the town is now is now accepting applications from the from the
residents who are who are interested in serving their their uh community through the participation of one of our advisory advisory committees. A description of each of each committee's roles and responsibilities along with membership
requirements may be found on the t town towns town's website. We encourage residents who are who are passionate about about civic civic engagement and public service to apply. Applications
must be must be submitted to the town to the town clerk no later than than uh Friday, September 12th, 2025 to be to be to be considered
for for for appointment by the town by the town council at it at its meeting scheduled for for October 2nd, 2025. For more for more information and to access
applications, please visit the town's the town the town's website. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So, there was no public comment. That was the public commentary. That was the public service announcement.
Correct. We will move on to member items. Ron, no. head. I just wanted to confirm that the uh September 22nd move town hall as far as we know. Okay, I'll try that. All right, that's all I have. Thanks, Sam. I got a couple items. I'll try to go
quick cuz uh their vice mayor is was going to want to hear some of these. I'll discuss them with him. He'll probably watch this. Um they're built when they build the arches. I don't know if anybody saw the plans, but it looks like if you're familiar with Santa Harbor, looks like it's a slatted a
slatted marina, which you come in one spot and the rest has slats going up and down kind of like fingerp. Yes. No, I mean I mean horizontal I mean a vertical vertical decking with small
gaps and the wa it keeps the water from being in the marina from the tide going through and that's my concern from the dinghy dock across the sky bridge to the other side is about 650 ft. These dock this marina is going to extend about
165. So about a quarter of the way out there, it may be good for easing the tide. It may make it worse, but it's going to be a it might be a factor. So that's just something to consider as that project of the arches moves forward. And an example of it is Santael
Harbor Marina. Um you know, by they have that and I've been there before and once you get inside there, it's you don't have to do anything. Your boat just sits there. It's But so you're saying this what what they're putting in these latch or whatever you're talking about. I got I got this.
It's an enclosed It's an enclosed marina. They're they're actually enclosing the marina. So it kind of has like a seaw wall around it is what you're saying. Exactly. With with wood and that's what it looked like to me in the plans. So I'll I'll So it slows down the current and swirl in
it's going to make it instead of 650 ft wide now it's 400 ft wide and that's where all the current comes in and that's a dingo dock issue that may help on an incoming current that may help like ease the current uh but it may create a whirl pool. may create, you know,
right now at Moss Marina, it's it it on entrances in certain parts when you when you enter enter into the marina there, it does swirl across gets bad and it really goes through and that's going to cut off any of that that's going to make the channel a third less
wide in that area. So, just something to consider when they come up with the arches um and do that. Um, also, um, as far as the fairies go, I had some comments on the on the ferry thing, but I'll just save that for the vice mayor
and another meeting. The other one was, if anybody watched the county meeting yesterday, and this isn't our this isn't our territory for the town, but it's going to affect us. Um, Commissioner Maluca ne with no warning or anything made the
boldest move I've ever seen. He made a motion with three of the five council me of the commissioners there to purchase what used to be Olsson's marina. So if you go over the bridge, make a right on Main Street, go about 200 ft on the right. It used to be a marina and
they're also purchasing summer electric there. They're purchasing it to build a boat ramp. Um and that's going to be right where a couple hundred feet from from the Moringfield itself. There's some major issues with that Chad or
somebody who's do I've hauled out of that marina. That was a do-it-yourself marina. Um they end up banning almost every product that we used there for they were using there for 50 years. It's all in the soil. It's all there. I don't know how they're ever going to clean it up, but they are putting a boat ramp
there. They're they put in an offer to buy it. Marina like like straight across from from us from the dinghy dock pretty much. It's all and to the right. Right. It's like Doc Forge is here. Then the Marina is right there. Marina is Marina's straight across here.
I've heard that they're tearing all that down here soon, but I have And they're building a boat ramp. I've not heard about the boat ramp. They they just passed it yesterday. They they allocated they said make an offer for $1.9 million. No public input, nothing. Now, is that going to be a public ramp? Public ramp? Yeah. So, it'll be nice.
I I think that's a good thing. It's great. But what's going to happen when they dig that all up? Yeah, that they may not be able to buy it once they do the soil test on it, but that'll be real close to the the moing field if they buy it and they're and they're on
um pretty much a fast track to do it. I think they want to do it real quick. Um no, thank you. But that may be super toxic. I know just the paint I spilled and I was careful and I probably have a lot of debris.
There's hundreds of gallons of toxic paint a year that were just dumped into the dirt there. So, but that's going to be a nice addition if they if they build it. And they also have where the the ramp on the other side of the marine is there that they Yeah, but that's Lee County. That's kind of
This is Lee County also. Right. But that's more for like contract. It's more of a private private. That's it for me. I have nothing. Okay. Uh just a couple brief things. Um
I will go to the council whatever their next meeting is. September whatever that Monday is 2 11 11. Oh okay. All right. That's their first meeting. I don't know. Okay. That might be problematic, but I'll figure out how to get it done. Um and
also just know I mean if you can't make it then we can you know one of the other committee members to Okay. That might be a better Yeah, I'll type something up so that we have that. So to ask for our cruisers remainder plus $500. And then Curtis,
you had talked about investigating with the town attorney whether we could have an offsite meeting and you could actually show us around. So Oh yes. So, um, so yes, I talked to, um, I talked to, um, people at the town, um,
Amy Baker, some people, but, um, um, we're they have kind of advised me to ask all if uh, we're probably going to push this to that meeting to the first of the fiscal year, October. Okay. Right
here. So we can get the new council members in uh make sure everybody or the or the committee members I should say. Sorry. And um so then that way we start off with the press start everything like that. So perfect.
Okay. Legally it should be okay as long as it's recorded and all that. I think so. Yes sir. Okay. So, for next meeting, our September meeting, which is the 22nd at 9:00 a.m., we'll go through the Canal Dredge funding document. We'll dig into
roles and responsibilities so that we can really come up with uh, you know, what we think our roles and responsibilities should be going forward, not necessarily what is outlined in that ordinance so that you guys can get that ordinance done. Um, and then I'll just throw out one other
thing that we can talk about is maybe uh having some sort of a welcome to season promotion. I don't know that we do an event, but we'll have new stuff. We'll have a new boat. We'll have a new dinghy dock. How do we welcome some of our voters back and say, "Hey, here's all
the new things that have happened in the town." So, maybe it's more of a communication promotional effort, but you know, maybe there's a role we can each play in helping to welcome some voters back. So that's for the next one. Uh for October, we talked about having, you
know, an offsite and then we'll also want to start gearing up for the cruisers event for April. All right. Along with the charter and the dredging information, right? That's for September. So for
October would be the offsite. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Anything else? Would somebody like to adjourn us? I'll move to Okay. Way to go ahead. All right. Seconded by Ted. All in favor say I. All right. We are adjourned. Thank you
very much everybody. while we're at Oak's head.