All right. Good morning everyone. Today is April 28th, 2025. I would like to call to order this meeting of the Anchorage Advisory Committee at 9:00 a.m. Let's do the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation with liberty and justice for all. All right, roll call.
Jennifer Rusk present. John Wesley Nash is here. Sam Lurri, Chris Wever, Jim Anderhol, Curtis Ledwig, Carver Messer. And so we are missing Ted L and Ed not Ed, sorry, Ron
Fleming. We'll find out where they are. Okay. Uh, any public comment? Seeing none, uh, we shall move on to the approval of the minutes. Did everybody have a chance to look? Okay. We have Ron Fleming. Good morning, Ron.
Did everybody have a chance to look at the minutes from March 24th? And are there any comments or questions? I have a comment. Just a couple corrections that um they don't need to correct on there, but I just saw the time was missing a zero, the 9:00 time. And the other correction
was the permit for LCSO for the sheriff's office. Uh or I think that's what it was supposed to be. It said LCEC. Okay. for the electric. Um, so I'm not sure what it was, but we we had all our permits and that was just a typo. Okay.
Anyone else have comments on the minutes? No, it was on that second. I had one and it said uh on the second page Chris Chair King will attend the April 21st town council meeting. I don't remember saying that, but maybe I did. I know that I think that was for when we
were going to do the permits and had to go. I think that's what that was for. if we needed to. Correct. Correct. All right. Just make sure about that. Okay. So, change of the time to make 9:00 LCSO
rather than LC and I was attending if needed. Any other comments? Do I have a motion for approval? Sam, I move to approve minutes. Second. All right. All in favor? Any opposed?
All right, minutes are approved. Okay, it was a big day yesterday, cruiser appreciation day held for the first time since March 25th of 2022. And I just want to say publicly and I'm going to go through a lot of
praise here, but I am so impressed by the committee how well we all work together and how much all of you gave of yourselves. um of your time, of your commitment to this event. So, I just want to go through and give everybody a
bit of kudos because I want the public to understand how much effort went into this and just how much we cared about this event. So, I will start with Miss Jennifer. Your passion for the nonprofits uh shown in every way possible
yesterday. I mean, you you love what you do so much working with the nonprofits. You have an amazing you know who to talk to. Your communication was called out by the nonprofits on how you kept them apprised of everything and your organization. You were a drill sergeant
when it came to getting, you know, all that stuff wrangled. I loved your setup. I thought it worked perfectly. So, thank you very very much for all that you did. Couldn't have done it without all of you. We appreciate that. Mr. Fleming, you are new to our community uh committee. You're the newest member. I
appreciate all of the donations that you gathered for us. Appreciate your liaisoning with the fire department and mostly appreciate your willingness to accept uh other duties as assigned and jump in wherever we needed you when you
picked up heavy things, helped all the vendors. No, they weren't heavy. Okay. All right. You picked up mostly light things, but thank you very much for all of that. Uh I was surprised. I didn't know that the library had tables and they didn't.
Those are new and they're at least 50% wider. They're fabulous. The tables and chairs, same with the chairs. They were super. Mr. Nash, you are the king of organizing donation prizes. Thank you so
much for wrangling all of that and for the donation prizes that you gathered on your own. Um, you know, you really handled everything perfectly. we had to sort of stop Ed when he got ahead of himself when we were trying to hand out the prizes, but I think it worked very
well. Um, so thank you for all of that. Uh, thank you very much. I really am really impressed on how well we worked together and came together as a team. I'd like to uh say to Jennifer um I
honestly was very skeptical of the layout. I was I kept Are we going to make this work? Do we have too many people? And you had it perfect. And I should never have doubted
you. And I I was very impressed with your experience and and how well you handled everything. Worked like a charm. All right. Um, moving on to Ed. Thank you very much for and thank you everyone
for your monetary support, your commitment to the effort, but you also were other duties as assigned kind of guy. Thanks for the bringing of the cooler which was very helpful and thanks for moving everything. Every time I looked around you had a dolly and you were moving some stuff from one place to
another. So sure when I wasn't hiding okay you did a great job. Um Sam and Ted, I wish Ted were here, but um again, thank you for your monetary support. And Sam and Ted are really our historians. I feel like you are our your connection,
our connection to the history of the Matanas Pass Moringfield. So, thank you very much for keeping us connected to the mission. Um you know, whenever we sort of arrayed, it was like you remember voters first. This is why we're here. We want to celebrate and recognize
voters. Thank you very much for all that you did arranging meals. You did a great job. That worked fabulously in the tiki. It was it was zippy and I think everybody enjoyed a great meal. Thanks for the donations that you gathered. The food was great. Amazing. Thank you. So,
I really appreciate it. Then also uh Ted's wife too. She helped a lot and checkina was amazing. Tina was awesome. We definitely appreciated Tina checking in the voters. She had it had Curtis, thank you and your staff, mostly
you, for everything that you did. You handled our communication uh coordination very well, even though you had a lot of stuff flying at you. You also wrangled a lot of our supplies and uh we appreciate everything you did.
I know it was a it was a tough couple of weeks getting there. Yes, but I think we did it. And uh you know, thank you, Chris. But you know, thank thank all of y'all. I think y'all did an amazing job. I think it was a very very successful
event. Um I think it was uh pretty good for having it for the first time in three years, right? So I think it was um you know a great thing and uh I can't wait to see um how we're going to build on
this for next year. and vice mayor, thank you very much for all of your support and for guiding us through council process and making sure that we got the approval that we needed so that we could carry on. As someone who watched how hard you all worked, uh
I have to say it was a phenomenal event and to the how you're going to top this next year is going to be a challenge, but I have no doubt that you will. Y we will. We're up to that challenge. Yeah. Yeah. So, I took that notes page and I
added information to it. So, what you got sent in the email this morning is really um a recap of everything that we did, all of the prizes, who won them, how many meal tickets we gave out. Um I did not include which voters attended,
but I've got I've kept a a sheet of that as I've given you one, Curtis, for reference. Um but I'm just interested in any other, you know, sort of data. Do you have some Sam? Were you able to connect with Snug? So, my quick comments are Jennifer and Curtis over the top.
That was so much effort. And Jennifer, you were like did fantastic. And uh the spouse thing, John King, really kicked in. He was he was helping us all day long. And it was really nice to see all the council people show up. They mingled
and talked with everybody. They were available all day long. and uh Ted's wife Tina, she helped out so much. And um she she helped out the entire day. So, thanks to her. And uh Ed Ryan from
Beach Talk Radio, he brought his personality with him and he kind of he just lifts everybody up and he did a great job up on the stage. So, it was a u it was a really fun event. It was. And thanks to the voters, you know, who showed up and also the two that were
willing to speak and talk a little bit about their experience. I thought that was that was great and I'm I'm hoping we can do more of that. Sam, have you had a chance to talk with Snug yet? Tell us. I have. Okay. So, I did not settle up with them yesterday technically, but I did go up to the
office. I will be going immediately after the meeting today. And if Curtis is available, he might not be available, but um I'll take him with me. So, the general account um from Nicole, who was in charge of supervising the station
there, was that we came within $100 of our 2,000. So, she kept all the slips. We're going to count them out between me and um Leslie Donovan is the manager there. She'll be the one that's going to be uh stroking the check when we submit
it. Um I think they had just under the 80 meals. I know we gave out 80 85 86 85. I know I didn't use one of mine and there were a couple people didn't use theirs and she said they only
had a handful of the white public ones, but I'm going to make sure that that counts towards our total of our minimum, but I don't know if I should make a motion now um that I'm pretty sure it's going to be right at the 2,000. It's got that we
fell just short and we did have a $2,000 minimum. So, I'd like to make a motion that the committee authorize after confirmation uh submitting to the the town a dispersement for $2,000 to Snug Harbor
for the meals. Have a second. I second that motion. Okay. All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Motion passes. I will be meeting with them after this. I will a some type
of just informal thing where I sign it. Yeah. An invoice where I sign confirmation and uh Lesie from Snug signs it. I'll submit it to the town and then we'll get them a check. And they were very cooperative. Have all the expenses been
paid. I mean with this for Snug for How about anything else? There were no incidentals with Snug. I think uh just the the total meals and uh If we if for some reason it's it's probably going to be a 2,00 max. If some reason we have
enough public to go over those will we'll only have to do the the actual confirmations of the green slips. So a good question. I mean what other what other incidentals did we have that that came into the cost of putting on
the event? Um so um we pulled the um the permit costs um from the fire department and the payments that we had to make for that that got pulled out. Um but that was only um believe a couple hundred I was going to say as I I'll get what's
left over in our fund next meeting. Okay after we make payment to snug and all this stuff but um no um I think that was our our next biggest cost that we had to to pay for, but
everything else we're good. I think we're going to be in the green a little bit. Yeah, we should have hopefully about $1,300 left over. Is that okay? That's what I was trying to I know it's a little early, but I was trying to drill down on what we have left when we next month when we have our
meeting, I'll have I'll have a balance of that for you. Perfect. Thank you. Absolutely, Madam Chair. Yes. Just two comments. First off, everybody done a great job in
getting uh in kind contributions. Uh they did a wonderful job giving them to me and everything worked out very very well with that. Uh the other comment I have is I really would like to see us get some official name tags.
That's something that really identifies us and makes us look as professional as possible. And I really don't think we should wait until next when if we if we have the funds. Um I think we should move forward with that as soon as uh as
soon as we can. Well, you may have different members of the committee by the time you have another event like this. So you might want to wait until get closer to that. I wonder if like the women's club, they have a basic shell
and then they do some sort of a tape thing. I mean, a nice looking official tape thing that goes on it. So, I'm wondering if we could do something like that and then we could switch out the members. Y I I really would like to see it as professional as possible. Um if we
have changes, Ed, I I can't imagine the name tags really costing that much. Um they're very cost effective. Well, especially if they're interchangeable like like the chair was just mentioning. Yeah, I can you can talk to the women's club and find out
how they do their name tags and bring that back. Definely worked out great, but uh next year we probably should start a little earlier. Yes. Okay. So, yes, now we're kind of at the point where so many things went well. I mean, really, not too many bumpy bumps. No, I
mean I have done events for 40 years and usually there's some sort of is that you figure out and and you know unfortunately we did have somebody who had a little bit of a medical issue. She is fine as far as I know she's in the hospital. Um and there's nothing major
that they have detected but you know just to make sure that she's okay. Uh but there really was nothing that we went wow this is not going to work. So you know great great planning for everybody but I know we always want to be better. We want to you know
incrementally make this a better event for everybody. So I would love to think, you know, go through some of the thoughts that you all have about what we can think about for next year and then I'll add them to that document so we have everything in one place. I'd just like to uh suggest uh for next year if
there's any opportunity to do it a little bit earlier in the season that we do I think we'd be more successful with some of the more votes. I know that it will we'll have more people in the town. Not so much that that's a factor care about that but it's I We'll have during
season I have more voters in at that time. So I think that's you know I think that's when we need to do it. Maybe in March I think like right before the season starts kind of dwindling down you know very end of March. Are you thinking
maybe? I I think so. I don't know how we all feel about that. No, we should definitely discuss that. In the past we've just waited until after Easter just but but Easter varies. So sometimes wait until afterward. Um, but I think
you're right about would get more attendance and there's going to be more people in the field um if we did it during season. We just have to weigh that out when it comes around to picking a date next year. Yeah. We don't want to be um inl
and make it so people can get there with traffic. Yeah. Next year Easter's April 5th. So, it's way earlier. So, we could either do it the and then What do you think about day
of the week? Did Sunday work well? Do you like Sunday going into the concert? I We didn't get the traffic that I thought we might get with, you know, having the concert right after, but I don't think it was a bad thing. No, I think it all worked well. I thought I I thought that we were going to kind of run into some issues with the band
setting up behind us, but it all kind of worked worked pretty pretty good. Yeah, we had plenty of space and they were very cooperative. Uh, I I like Sunday because I think there's a possibility of less conflict. Yeah. What about time? Do you think we should move it up and start
at noon and go like noon to 3 or do you like the 1 to 3:30? Oh, I I actually seen a lot of people Sam, you can you can chime in on this. I've seen a lot of people show up
early. People are ready earlier, so it wouldn't hurt to start it earlier and, you know, get it going. That way, people have the rest of their day also. Yeah, I agree. And you were hitting more of the lunch time if you're starting at 12. It may be a little bit cool. Yeah. Okay.
Um, let's see. What can I offer a thought just because it just popped in my head. Um, I I don't want to create any additional work, but I I have to think, and I would defer to I know John, you do a lot of traveling, but I have to
think this is somewhat unique what we did demonstrating appreciation and hospitality towards our our our Moringfield customers. And I wonder if there are either online or even traditional hard copy publications that sort of follow the voting industry. And
I wonder and there oftentimes they're often looking for content and I saw people took some really good pictures and just just a little bit of a story about what we did and how we welcomed these folks and appreciated them and and some nice pictures. I would think to the entities that that travel like John, I
know you probably subscribed to them or at least looking at them online to submit that content and I bet that could be from a PR standpoint really good for the Mingfield and good for Fort Myers Beach. If I may interrupt you, I actually had a lot of the nonprofit and
organizations asking if we had publications so they could offer those up to the morning. And so I think that's a great idea, some sort of but but but I'm thinking about the the
folks that are that in that industry that that that the ming the people who go and travel in their boats that they read on a regular basis. if there's some kind of a trade magazine or something. There's a cruisers.net. Yes. And I've talked with them. I can uh I can submit
something to them and see if they want to put it out on because they give like a a newsletter or as you will like every week or month or something like that and I can see if they want to promote that and I bet they're looking for content and it's free and you know Chris is really good at packaging that. So we
have anything that we hand out but I think we should have like a the old flyer. The town does specifically has the newsletter that they put out monthly and stuff like that. So, and I'm sure that Nicole will put something in there physical. I think you're
saying that you're saying like a flyer and with a QR code maybe like something that if um or even a card like a postcard with a QR code to get people to the boring field like that. It's a It's
a absolute perfect time for uh Great Loopers. Correct. And there's an excellent uh couple excellent publication. I'm sorry, I don't know what that is. So, um Great Loopers. The Great Loopers. Okay. Um there is a um
water pathway that goes up the east coast. This this is a some achievement for voters. A lot of people do it. They go up the east coast. They go across a couple different ways and go across. They come down to
Mississippi. They turn to to different rivers and basically they come down past the Gulf Coast and a lot of them like to winter in in the southern states. Um
That's another thing is is as they're planning and we get in there early enough as they're planning the route um it would be excellent to uh give them an option or show them what we're doing. Um also uh does DACA allow us to do
uh the type of thing we're talking about like promoted or right? Right. I'm afraid it would probably I know that they're coming out with new things and stuff like that. Like I can run like discounts and promote that through their through their site. That's something new they just brought on. Um but I don't
know if anything like this that's something I can I can ask a problem. Yeah, I'm I afraid it would probably be um be paid and not not free. Um as uh as
the people as the vice mayor said there there are a lot of publications that are looking for content and I think I think it's not just to promote the specific event but to promote this image that we're a welcoming community and we appreciate the people that support our community
and use our moing field and there's a sense of hospitality there. You certainly saw that Sunday and it would be great to convey that right through the pictures and maybe through a short article in some of these trade journals. I Yeah, I just think it's a neat be a neat and we should start targeting
probably for content in maybe October, November. Agreed. Perspectively, I'm thinking about telling the story about what just happened. Yeah. Oh, that too. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. That that's an excellent thing and um I can can help
look around a little bit and see if we can identify um some of these outlets in the Chris you all know this but they call that earn media I mean it doesn't cost us anything but what a great opportunity to tell our story yeah the ones I'm aware of previously
um they truly are begging for content so it would be an excellent yeah I think we've talked about this before the fact that um it'd be great to have some sort of communication plan not just about this event but about field and understand all of the different ways that we're promoting the Moringfield,
promoting the hospitality of of this community. And so I sent you and Nicole a whole bunch of photos and then I'll have that, you know, detail sheet which will be complete with everything that that happened. So that should be a good basis. But certainly, you know, we can
talk to some of the people who were there. You can talk to some of the nonprofits to get quotes about I've been getting so many emails about It was and they loved meeting the field guests
and it was just phenomenal to be honest with you. The whole event was so much fun and I had I had a blast. And if I may thank all the organizations and um Jan,
your wife, she really pulled through for us with the tables and chairs and and Curtis, you did an awesome job. When I needed your help, you were right there. And uh so I really thank you so
much from the bottom of my heart and the whole community. This was a spectacular event and I'm so proud of us. I mean, I think there are a lot of great takeaways. Um you know, mayor, vice
mayor, I think you mentioned that we didn't have quite as many voters show up. It was the fact that we extended this invitation to them. They knew that they were welcome. We knew that we they we wanted them to attend. And you know, I would have loved to seen a few more
people wandering through the nonprofits. But bringing all those nonprofits together is also a win because they got to network and they got to talk to each other and understand some things that work, some things that don't work. And building that community profit I think
is also a win. And the other thing is we did this in a really public way. It wasn't like we were under meet the bridge, you know, which was a lovely contained event for the voters, but we did this in a really big public way. So, we took some risks. This might not have
gone as well as it did, but because we were so organized, it did go really, really well. And people saw and they came up and they asked questions. And I think we can just do it better and better each time we do it. Exactly. Um, the library loaned us these
signers that all the tables had. I've lost a few. Maybe they walked off. I'm not sure. Um, I'm happy to replace them. I just need to find out where they got it. I have a box of stuff in my trailer
that I was given to me yesterday at the end. Let me check that and see. And if we have them, I'll just run the library. Okay. Awesome. And then um with that, um I'm happy to go wipe down all the tables and chairs. Were they delivered? They
are getting returned right now. Probably. They are getting returned today. Right now, this morning. Should I go? Um you can. Yes. Um that shouldn't be an
issue at all. Um I can where they're at. Yeah, I've got a meeting at 10. Um, so maybe this afternoon if someone's going to be there or I don't know. Well, that's what I'm saying. We're returning them this morning. Like if they're not already returned now is what I'm getting
at. My guys are doing it right now. So, they'll be there. I think the only one that really needs to be cleaned like really good is probably that bottom table I'm sitting on the ground. Um, but um but I don't They're too dirty. I
think when we put them away yesterday, they weren't they were fine. I mean, I handled a lot of the chairs and tables, right? They were all wiped down prior. Correct. And about half of the nonprofits had table. I really don't think it's
necessary. Are you sure? Yes. I think we'll be all right. J, since you're in the room, I would like to thank you so much for um if you don't mind I think he needs to come to the microphone. Yeah,
I know you're a busy man. Good morning. There you go. Thank you. I just wanted to say thank you for um helping the nonprofits with parking spots. Absolutely. And helping the town and helping us. We really appreciate it. I appreciate that. Thank you. And that's
what we're here for. And you need to identify yourself for the record. Thomas Yazo uh emergency services director Fort Myers Beach and we are public servants first and that's what we're here for. I was talking to one of your rangers walking in this morning uh and he uh was helpful in putting these protective uh
uh uh cord cover cord covers. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, give whole credit to uh uh town manager Andy Hyatt and Jeff Hogan, PW director, because I forgot we had them and we were putting cones up and taping things down and uh they sent me a
text and said, "Hey, we have those those barriers." I'm like, "Oh." So, we ran back and got them and put them down. So, yeah, it was a good event. I was down for a little while. I did walk through and say hello to everybody, but uh I couldn't stay. But it was a beautiful event. Looks like a good turnout and uh downtown was busy which is really nice
for us. Thank you sir. Thank you everyone. Be well. Great job. things to just mention quickly. Um, you know, I think we need to remember we don't want to flood Nicole and other people with, you know, ideas for communication. So, let's try and have
one point of contact. And if that can be me in the future, that's that's great. I understand that sometimes we need to funnel things, specific things, and we'll funnel them through Curtis. He'll make sure Nicole gets it. But, well, Sunshine Law, we need to go right. Yes. I think Curtis is always our first point
of contact to get things there. Um, one thing that we did, you know, sort of late in the game yesterday is, you know, Sam walked down to the dinghyd to make sure that people knew where they were going. So, I'm wondering if next time we have a sign at the dinghy dock welcoming
people or a person welcoming people and saying, "Gosh, so glad you're here. Here's where you go." Actually, it was helpful. Like I was down there between 1 and 1:30. It would have been a good time. That's about when I was down there. The only issue was reminding
people about their 10- foot painters, right? But I I don't think it was full, but there was always room to there was always room to squeeze an extra one in there. But, you know, it's full and it is open to the public. Um, there weren't any larger than 10footers that I saw and
everyone was pretty curious. 10 foot. Can you uh Oh, 10 foot 10 foot line. So, that What they do is you pull up, everybody get you tie nice and tight, everybody gets off on the floating dock, and then you let out 10 feet of line, and that way when somebody else gets
ready to come in, they can pull that one away and pull up. There's plenty of dock space to pull up to all the time. And that's general the general rule. Correct. Excuse my ignorance, but uh I wanted to know how many dingy docks are
or how many boats uh are allowed to park in the dock with a 10 foot contain her a lot. We don't have a specific specific We don't have a specific number. No, I've seen it. Is that just for field or is that for anyone? Just
for field. Is there a sign? What do you mean? So you hold on. Hold on. I think I'm So you're you're talking about the boat the Is there an occupancy limit for the dingy dock? Yes, ma'am. We don't have an occupancy limit on the dingy dock. I I
will say I've seen it a lot. It's been a lot more full than what it was this weekend for sure. Um especially during the season. You don't you have a new dot that's not installed yet. Correct. Correct. And then and that's on my updates that I'll be talking about
that's going to be happening very very soon. Anything else that you I have one suggestion for drop offs. Okay. If we could have some sort of sign, you know, nonprofits here. Okay. Because one guy
was parked on the sidewalk inside of Snug Harbor's parking lot and and if we could ask try to convince them to come one direction, which would be okay. Yeah. Even though the trolley lane isn't
ours, it came in very handy. But it did work, you know, worked pretty darn well. Yeah. anything for the cost? Um, you know, I had some different thoughts overnight, but it's I mean,
it's only been about even 18 hours. So, you're processing. Yeah, I am too. I don't want to steal anyone's uh line or anything, but I'm still looking at this at 30,000 ft. So, okay.
What I will do is I will add a page to the notes that I have been assembling lessons learned uh thoughts for next time and put those there and then when we come back together when the time is right to think about the next event we'll have sort of a a plan. We'll at least know what we did the last time and
then we can build on that. I do think, Madam Chair, uh, to to not to beat a dead horse here, but with all the great pictures you did take, those would be useful next year when we promote it, particularly within the trades and so forth. I mean, that's a that would be something just to sort of
tell our story uh preemptively about what happened last year, so people could have that anticipation for for the coming year. So, and we don't need a drone to take the pictures. We have John King. Yes, our photographer. That took me a minute. That's good. Yeah. Will Nicole
hold on to those photos and will she put them in some sort of a file or do I need to keep them on my phone? Um I can I can ask her, but um I I'll keep a file on mine, too. So, we'll have we'll have them I'll save it. All right. Shall we move on to staff
reports and updates? Yes. All righty. So, um, for my updates here. So, first things first, just want to let y'all know I'm still in the process of, um,
I'm hiring one other person. Um, I had a cancellation last last week and then a uh, a no-show. So, we still still in that process of hunting down our third uh, marine marine operator. So, hopefully we'll have that
we'll have that soon. Next is uh the debris removal um contract that's going on right now. Um we are nearing its end. Um it's uh
the end date is the 30th of this month. Um so we are um um after that we will be in discussion and see if um we're going to proceed forward or um if it's going to end. what would help make that decision?
What's sort of the tipping point here? Do we are we done with debris removal or we are not? Um so we are in a lot better state um where we were in the beginning. Um we
still have debris and canals. Um the big stuff is what the this last two months have been about is uh restoring n um is restoring the navigation to the channels. Um all the big debris and
stuff that's in the middle has been has been removed. We have a few big items to um um get uh before the end which they are which they are doing now. And so by the end all the big items should be
done. But um you know I I think uh you know we we go down and side scan these uh canals you know all the time after after they're done with them and stuff like that. And um you know we're even green canals we're still finding
debris. Um, and I think sometimes that sonar is very good, but with stuff laying just under the mud and laying flat, I think it kind of trips the sonar system, so we're not really seeing a whole lot, but when the guys walk it, they're pulling out things. So, um, you
know, we're we're we're uh we're going to be in discussion um here in the next few days of how we're going to move forward. It'll be um if we do get to the point to extend or um you know what FEMA
has to say as well um then we'll be presenting the council. Sam are the is the firm that's uh contracted are they are they tracking data on how much debris they've taken up? Correct. Yes sir. So when this concludes it's another great opportunity to sort of tell our
story. So I would I would aggregate that data and talk about how much was removed under this program from the canals maybe with some additional pictures and encourage Nicole to put that out because that's a people are very interested in this and they're interested in a very positive way. So it's one of those great
nice stories that we need to tell. Um um I've been in contact with media outlets and stuff like that. Um you know they've been doing a lot of stories. Sam just gave me this story that they ran. um as well last week and then I know we
has been running a story there for if you if if you really have some time and Nicole has some time to to maybe there's a couple big items still to pull out maybe that last item you maybe have a little press conference around that and then release that data of all the debris
you've taken up and Okay, I mean those are I mean the media it's summer it's quiet they're looking for stories and it's such a good story. Absolutely. be worth telling and it's great. It's just it's just it reminds people of what we've been through, but it's in a positive way. Yeah. I've already had reporters ask me about the final numbers
and stuff like that on the closure. That'd be nice to keep a mental note of everybody who's done a story, then maybe call them in for a little maybe a little press availability or press you don't have to maybe call it a press conference, press availability and just a great I think you'll get great response on that. Yeah. Let them watch. Yeah. Let them come with their cameras
and call something up. Absolutely. Kurt, back to um what we've cleared out. Uh it's my understanding that the channel navigational channel is is cleared to its previous uh um depth from not from
dredging but from debris. Is that true or do we still have some targets in the navigational channels that would be concerned for size of vessels that go through it? So, you're talking about the draft of the canals, the depth of the canals.
Yeah, I'm talking about where we um where we had a let's say a 10-ft clearance previously. We don't have any debris that's up to six feet or up to No, that's the whole purpose of this is to remove that. Um so, right now we we
are clear for for navigational. We don't have any alerts out, any notems out that says uh we have problems. No, no. We we we have marked things that we still have to get like I mentioned um
before before closure um that they are getting right now this week. So um I say by the end of this we will be um yeah pretty clear for the most part you know for what they they have done. I mean we have still debris under there but it's
not causing any causing any hazard to navigation or anything like that. Right. And I'm sure somebody b From the channel, there's there's lots of stuff they got to deal with. Correct. But from the channel right now, we uh we have Boers have confidence that they won't
hit any debris that's going to do any damage to their vessel. Yes, sir. That's correct. Excellent. Do we have insurance? I mean, are we liable? Um is the town liable if something or in a canal they
Is it like our responsibility to No, that's a that's a good question. I mean, are we liable for Boers in our canals in our back bay if they hit something or is it I mean, that's on the boater. It's the operator at that point.
So, it would be on the boater themselves if they right hit or obstruct something. Yeah, it it it's very common, Jennifer, for um for the boating insurance on the vessel. uh to cover such things. Good question. And then also that
Jennifer, just to um you know, let you know with that's why we we make sure that all of our voters have um updated um insurance on file on DACA before they come into the morning field. Um
so, you know, for what you're talking about, correct? No, you're good. Great. Great question. Yeah. What else on your report? All right. So, um, moving next. So, dingy dock. Um, everything's in the works for
that. I just picked out the color scheme for the dock. Um, and, uh, we It's a color scheme. Well, just just a gray. It's the barefoot gray. A gray color scheme. It's like this color, you know, nothing. It's It is It's It's the same thing of what we have now, pretty much.
So, um, so, um, we're just waiting for the materials to get to, um, come in right now until, um, once once they come in, um, Kelly Brothers will, um, let us know and then that'll be the timeline. I
should expect the timeline of um when they're going to start the construction and how long they're estimating it uh until they're done till completion. So, um I'm looking forward to that. Um it's
been a long time coming. You know, that was the first thing that I was hoping to get done or attack when I first started and uh with the hurricanes and everything that's pushed back. So hopefully by the end of this summer, we'll have a brand new brand new uh
dinghy dock and uh we should be able to hold uh a lot more a lot more dingies. Now will the fishing pier under the bridge that include will that reopen? Yeah, that fishing pier is gone. Okay, it's
it's no longer um last year end of summer last year there was two pilings still there. Um brothers came and removed those two. Uh we needed that done before the dinghy dock was built. So um because it was kind of in the way
there. So getting back to the color scheme, I know it sounds boring about that light gray, but that is important. It stays fairly clean, correct? And it stays cool. Well, and I would think if you did a blue, it would might blend in with the water and
it wouldn't be as visible. Too hot. That was a tan. want to go for a light a light color but not white so it stays clean and it's and it's cool. There were the the two big color the three big colors was like a beige like a tan and then a brown and then the grays gray
colors. So I went with the gray. Who knew? I know. So that's a natural color of the metal also. So there wouldn't be a lot of touching up or anything. Correct. Paint chipping or anything. Sorry Mr. Yeah, I need to leave. Okay.
Thank you. Thank you. Good job. It was fun. Very much fun. Anything else on your You got a member. Ron travels by bike. I just have a few more. Okay. Sure. Say he travels by bike. Yes.
Everywhere. Everywhere. When's our next meeting? Uh Monday. May 26th. Okay. Thank you. 9 a.m. I do have to leave at 10. Okay. All right. I think we can I can I'll be just
a few more things. I just want to know what where we're at. Okay then. Not done. So, Mr. Fleming, not that date. Not that date. That's Memorial Day. So, we'll tell you when it is.
might need to be the 27 council's not doing any hand. We'll check with Amy. Okay. Um so just a few more items to just uh keep you uh up to speed with. Um
we did get a work work trailer or a tool trailer. Um so we have that at the North Tower. That's huge. freed up some space for us in our in our in our communications trailer where we our office. Um so that was a big thing that
we got. Um we should be getting a new F-150 for us to pull some stuff with as well. We would will be sharing that truck with the code with the code department. Um, and where we are at right now with the maintenance of the
morning systems, we are starting to clean the morning systems now that we're getting into the off season. I started with the back bay and then we are working our way um north up to uh towards Pink Shage up there. So, um once
a boat leaves off a ball, that's our time to go and you know clean it and um get everything you know ready because right now summer time, we're going to be occurring a lot of a lot of growth, algae, barnacles, that kind of thing. So, we want to keep our systems as as
clean as possible. And is that work that your team does or this is what you've contracted out because it involves diving? No, my team is doing the cleaning um the maintenance side of it and inspecting the morning systems and
interchanging uh some of the uh shackles and uh the rigging. Um that is that is on the system. That is what the contractors do. But we maintain and clean the system. So I mean you know I mean you can call it maintenance maintenance as well is that's what it
is. That's what we're doing. So Okay. But anything that involves diving they would do correct. Yes ma'am. And I think that's it for right now. That's a quick question uh on the Arches proposal and and I asked Frankie this about a month ago and I I can't remember
exactly where we're at with that. Is there any kind of synergies between the Moringfield and the Arches proposal at this point, but there if there's any talk of us uh getting in there as an office? Is that what you're either pumpout office just some kind of
synergy? Is there any kind of discussion that's currently in the proposal that's pending before the council? Um to your knowledge, to my knowledge, I know that they it has been discussed that we would like to um have an office in there um in
the in the ship stores. Um you know, that's something that Frankie So better better question for Frankie at this point as to whether it's in their proposal or not. their plan. That's kind of um you know above my head right now. That's okay. I just I just didn't know what I I just was curious as to where
that was at. I I'll check with Frankie. Thank you. Yeah. My understanding from talking to Frankie is that there are some things in that proposal that he has put forward and tried to have in whatever comes to council. But I I don't know the exact specifics, but I do
believe pump out and probably the office. I'd heard rumors of the office. I just But I'll check on that. Maybe I'll have a report for the next meeting because I think I think the arches may be done by then. So, we'll hopefully have some information for the next meeting on that. We're talking Huh.
We're talking like two to five years down the road for that. Correct. No, no, no. I meant in terms of the the Yeah. If the if the agreement passes whether it's whether it's in it or not and what's in it. Yep. Understood. Understood. Any update on the six balls? No. No. after
all this stuff, this contract, this uh debris removal contract, ACC is done. That's I I want to get the balls open by next uh next season. That's my goal. So, that's one of my main focuses here coming up. Um
um one other thing I will uh well, two more things. Um, I will say we have um we do pump outs with Pink Shell um or or pump pump off our boat at Pink Shell. Um
we also can use Salty Sam's system now as well. They got theirs up and running um for the past six months. We've been helping them pump out their um pirate ship in the sights here and um I did that as a friendly favor for them.
So it's kind of helped us out. So, um, we're able to use their their system as well. So, now we have a system to offload our boat at the end of our morning fields and then at the beginning as well. So, um um I think that helps us
out a lot. So, I was happy for that. Any update on sunken boat at ball number 48? No, I have not gotten an update on that as it is. It is. It's tagged. It's still in the works. just going through FWC and LCSO's process. Is that the one at the
end of Ohio? Correct. Yes, ma'am. Yep. Um and then one last thing that I will um let y'all know about is um um I have a new boss. Um so that got
changed uh this past week. Um my boss now I'm currently um going to be reporting to Thomas Yazo. Um he is um he is the um
emergency emergency response director now. So, um there'll be some things uh once we talk next meeting once we get into the ordinances and changing that and putting putting the ACC information
in our in our ordinance. Um it'll be listed as the morning field will be under emergency response. So, that will be added as well when we go to revise the resolution for the for the morning. That concludes my updates.
That's all I have for you right now. Thank you, Curtis. You're welcome. Do you have an update on your boat? Oh, yes. Yes. Yes, we did. So, that's um we are waiting right now for the um the boat builder to put the specific boat on
the GSA website. He has other boats on the website, but this one has to be specifically on there per per Joe um on it. So, um that's in the process right now. We're waiting for that. Once that gets updated on the website, we can move
forward, but everything's still in line. I just don't have a timeline on it. So that's why I didn't mention. And then um there's a landing at the end of Coconut. I believe it's Coconut. Yeah, there's a
pier right now. Um actually, yeah, so um I'm in the process of trying to We have um we have some concrete people working for the town right now. um once they get done with certain things, they're going to come down and they're going to repave that uh boat
ramp down at the end of Coconut. I'm so glad you brought that up. Um so we have a boat ramp on my street near my street and two people have fallen in the past couple weeks. Okay.
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. You do? I'm trying to get all of them covered right now, but I got to go one one step at a time. reach out to so you can help. I Yes, I've been hitting that up. I've been trying to get all that done, but I got to do one one at a
time. So, Coconut's the first one. I think that one needs the most attention right now and then we'll move our way. We definitely don't want people falling down. Correct. I know my that's a that's a very narrow boat ramp. You know, I
don't know who's um people use it. Even on our street, people put their boats in. It's really designated for you know kayaks and things like that. That's
really what it's for. But um but it needs some visitors. Yes, I agree. I agree. That's good to know. Anything else for Curtis?
Jennifers, you are leaving shortly. Do you have anything for member comments that you want to bring up? No, just a big event. Thank you very much. Thank you. Other member comments. John, great.
Thank you, Sam. I have one very important comment. I would be If I didn't acknowledge Curtis has been here one year, he is the man. Not yet. Not yet. Five. 516. Okay. 516. Okay. So, well, this
will be our one-year meeting that and he's everywhere doing everything. Very wellliked by by all the Moing patrons and obviously all of us. And the media darling. The media interviews him all the time. He's always
available and just a great representative of the town. So, thank you, Curtis. Absolutely. A pleasure to work with you and um I I couldn't uh I don't think we could ask for anyone better job you're doing. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Uh I don't really have anything. I noticed that the MURF committee um is going to council with some recommendations about dredging. Um there mo I watched the meeting the motion was a little bit
confusing to me but um I would encourage everybody to watch that murf meeting at least a discussion about dredging being that we're marine operations I think this committee should also be involved with that process
exactly and u it's one of those crossover things it definitely is but it seems like Chad is possibly more of like the contact person for funding. He is me and him. So me and Chad work hand in hand on certain projects like me
and him are working together on this canal debris removal project. Um and then if the dredging once that happens down the road, you know, me and him will be both be involved in that project as well
just like this one. May I respond? Absolutely. So interesting enough um I know many people who have lived here for years and years that live on canals. They actually many people after
that meeting came to me and even before that meeting said that the town before hurricane Ian had already said that they were going to dredge the canals. So I'm not I was very kind of uh confused why
it was uh thing. I understand that we're a marine environmental resource task force, but my opinion was this was something that the town had already discussed and came to a conclusion. I'm talking about the town council and so um
I was confused by why it was something but you know it is what it is. Is this along the lines vice mayor of the things that we've been talking for quite some time about where the responsibility lies for dredging and how to I think those
conver that conversation should probably continue. I have to confess I I try to watch all the advisory committees but I I did not see that particular episode so I don't I don't know what the language is it that's being proposed. So and also um Mr. I would like you to look into um finding
out what the previous uh council before Hurricane Ian had already discussed in uh in the you know the plans for drenching. Yeah, that that's a good question. I have to say in all fairness, in all honesty, it's it's
pretty nebulous. Yeah. In terms I mean everybody had a a hope and a wish, but there was never any funding to back it up. there was always promises of looking for funding by the the town manager at the time. Um but I don't think that was there was anything right codified and in
our last meeting or um not in our last meeting but a few meetings prior to that Frankie um had come and spoke to us about it and uh I believe uh you know he had spoken about whether or not there
was um funding for it and uh so I I know it's I know it's on the town's wish list, but whether that'll be realized or not is still I think up in the air. Yeah. Well, I think it's fair to say that that Chad's working on it. Yeah, that's there. Um I know that he I just
talked to him before this meeting. They are moving forward with um seeking the permitting process and going through that going through that avenue with it right now. So once it does get the chances for a line item from the legislature are minimized by the
challenges at the budget discussions at the state level. So I don't think there's a lot of hope for a line item appropriation. And I guess I'm just confused if the town council already had uh approach this you know this plan to
do the dredging of the canals uh prior to Ian. Is that no longer in effect? Well, I think when you use the term dredging, you're not talking about removing debris. You're literally talking about dredging, right? Correct. I I don't know that there ever really was. I I think
there was a desire to either help and assist. So maybe a misunderstanding of the I think that the town council had there was something in place for the Buccaneer Lagoon, right? Yes. But u the hurricane destroyed a lot of
stuff. Correct. I think there was something that was well there was a partnership. No, that was that was actually real years ago maybe like five years ago. But the bucket the bucket lagoon example was a real example where the town agreed to pay 50% and then the community paid 50%. That's and that was
that was codified and it was taken out of their water bill in one lump sum which created some challenges but after Ian that money was refunded and I think we're back to kind of square one with respect to those issues. Um it's a private channel public channel sort of
conversation to who owns what it's all public well that part is the other canal sorry right right exactly I have good overlook visibility of that and since Ian that's gotten much
worse it's almost not passable at at certain times of day so that is aware of that you're talking about coming into Buccaneer Lagoon is that what you're saying about the entance Right there I am. We've actually been going around the green on the back side of it and coming
back closer to the dock line just around the outer green just to get past that sandbar is extended so far. So there's channel and then there's canal and then I also know the entrance to that channel on the outside coming in that's that
ball that sandbar has gone all the way into the channel almost across the channel. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. It's already got You're talking about on the outside before you you come in to make the bend and then go back into Buccaneer Lagoon, right? You're not talking about the green that's in Buccaneer. No, I'm talking about the
green that's actually in uh Big Carlos Pass the very first time you come to Correct. And we all the neighbors and I we discussed it. We've actually kind of just been going on the outside because that sandbar has come so far. Yeah, it's moved. Okay. Yeah. But you got to be very very careful. Yeah.
gets it's skinny on that side, too. Yeah, it it's it's uh definitely unpassable for probably half of the day, depending on where your tides at. And we see people go around there all time. Unfortunately, it's
they they do damage to the boat quite often. No, I understand. Yeah, that's that's a broader policy discussion. If we can't secure uh funding, state or federal funding, you know, we're going to have to as a
community figure out whether we use the economies of scale and find a vendor that would give a discounted rate to help all the canals. Do the is there is there a cost sharing formula that comes into play? Is that put on the property
tax? Is does the town assume all the cost uh and those who are not on a canal assume part of that? These are these are huge challenging policy questions that need to it needs to happen. It needs to have that discussion because the canals do need help. Uh it's just a question of how do you where do you allocate those
costs and how do you allocate them particularly if you can't get state or federal funding typically what other communities what what do other neighboring communities do? Well, I think it's everybody's all over the place. I think because you when you dredge a canal too and got you're not talking to an expert here but what what
I understand is that you have the repercussions to the seaw walls and then who's responsible for any seaw wall repercussion if you dredge the canal. So I mean it's a it's a big it's big deal. I mean and and I uh I think we're going to have to sit down as a community and figure out
how to allocate those costs. I agree. I I don't have the answer but yes but I do believe that we do need discussion. I think that the the the lure of potential outside help has has delayed the hard conversation that we have to have here as a community and and if we can get that outside help
wonderful that because that that alleviates a lot of the problems but whether that outside help comes or not is I think still I think that's delaying the conversation the hard conversation I think to reiterate I would just recommend it was a good discussion there
was some lot of different ideas thrown around and uh I think it' be a good idea for this committee to stay updated on how that's going. I think this is one of the items that we have talked about probably for a year or so on this committee and because
there is this disremembering misremembering oh I forgot we talked about that. I mean I would love to just have sort of a one pager that somebody could put together on here's what we know here's what happened before and here's where we are today. And madam
chair we maybe um come up with a motion and have you go in front of the council as well as for that? Well, I don't think we're at the point, Jennifer, where we have anything to really recommend to the council. I I know that Frankie is he's
very much on his list of things that he's working through. But, um I think the first step in my mind is let's just level set on what what's real, what are the facts around this. And so, then when you have questions from your you know, your neighbors, you can Here's here's
really what it is. We're totally aware of this. Um we've been talking about it for a long time. It's complicated and we're just trying to figure out what's the best way forward. Just for the record, again, the entrance to Bucket J. Uh that
definitely gotten much worse from the hurricane. Correct. But it's gotten much worse in the last couple months. That's where I was going to go. You know, that show constantly builds and so that channel gets worse and worse and worse. It's not going to get better on its own.
So you're talking channel and I think you're talking canal. I'm talking about the channel to buck, right? So So there are two kind of different just talking about that in particular is the uh Well, I think what John is talking about goes
in hand in hand with these canals because it's the entrance. If you can't get through there, you can't get into the at all. So it goes it goes hand in hand. So it sort of part of the same same deal with the back there. Then there's a lagoon and then there's canals that go go off of the lagoon. Right.
Correct. Yeah. But if you can't you can't get back there and certainly agree with you about the channels but if you can't get back there it's it's a mess. Well, the thing is is I personally I think that the
waterways are a big economic driver as well as the beach in this community. I agree. And and you know the state or whoever helped us out quite a bit with with the beach and we're just not getting that same response for for the
canals if you were to compare the two. Yeah. Again, not to belabor this, but I think part of the challenge was is that because the previous town management prior to Ian didn't didn't properly metric and measure the status of the
canals. We didn't have that data to go to FEMA to get that kind of help like we did for the beach nourishment. So, uh, and then of course the TDC only has very strict things that they they'll reimburse for. So I don't think canals is in their purview. Although if the state legislature is successful, it may
be because obviously Cape Curl has a lot of canals and if they get TDC money, I mean everything's in in flux. But these these are great policy questions and I think even with the the channel uh John we we had a couple years ago we were trying to get to see if if we could use
the sand in that channel to use it for reourishment particularly on the south end because it was pretty close and there was there were some engineering challenges that that that didn't support that that thesis. So, I think everybody's got their thinking caps on and uh but this lure of help, outside
help has kind of delayed I think the hard conversation that we're we're eventually going to have to have. Correct. And to complicate it more, unfortunately, when John was talking about the loop, that's all inter coastal. It's federal. It needs to be kept open. It stops at the Kousa
Hatchee. So, everything on our back bay is not technically the inter coastal. So, correct. There's a lot of stuff we don't qualify for urgency on. The problem is a lot of those channels going back from well so if you come under the bridge sticking to the right right hand
side of the channel down the dock line fast enough by all those are private dates so those aren't federally federally maintained and the whole back bay is not whereas coming from Cape Coral from Cape Coral all the way to you know the other coast and all
the way up to you know, to Texas and to New York, it's all federal, but it stops at the Kusa Hatchee. So, everything south, it's a it's a different situation. I I mentioned the TDC because the state legislature is currently discussing legislation that will revoke
the concept of a TDC in terms of how it's uses its funds and then basically Lee County would be able to use it for anything they wanted to as opposed to the purpose of the why the TDC was created in the first place. I don't know what the the stat that may not pass, but it's out there and it's a real bill and
I think that the cities and town folks are very concerned about it. I'm I'm sorry, the term DDC, the the tourist development council, that's basically the bed tax and it's the entity that then dispenses the funds from the bed tax theoretically to help those coastal
communities where the hotels are and generating the bed tax again, i.e. beach nourishment, etc. Uh so that's that but but but but I think there's some folks in the legislature who would like to get their hands on some of those funds for other purposes as well. And some
information I would like is Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Sure. Sorry, John. Um some information I would like is is uh the canals how many canals we have private property is the are the
majority of the properties on private properties. Um how many of them are rentals meaning they're conducting their property as a business that's helpful in making some decisions.
I would yield to Curtis on that, but that's a good question. Yeah, that's a good question. I'm talking I'm asking as a community and we put that on our so that we know exactly and Ted has
knows a lot about about that as well. So next meeting we can but even with tropical shores possibly from the past discussion about building a facility there didn't the run into some problems with underwater land lease and
there was an owner that owned Yes, absolutely. There were there I think repairarian rights that were disputed and and so forth. In fact, in fact, I lived on tropical shores ways and the I was renting there and the owners of our of our home had been at war with this
entity that owned the parts of the canal, the rights of the canal. even to repair your your own pier or your dock, you had to go to this entity and they would I hate to use the word extort, but I can't think of a better word, extort money from you in order to be able to repair your own dock. And that's
unusual. I don't I think that I think that's there's just a few of those canals run into those challenges. But that was a that is and was a real problem. If you go to uh Leapa, I think I was I showed a few of you if you go to Lepa and I don't know what what this really means, but if you light up all
the property owners, 90% of the canals are owned by the associations or at least it comes up under their name. So, I'm not sure, you know, what's involved in, you know, getting people to sign off on that and, you know, how significant that as or
how it even means. But if you go to the property appraiser, it's some of the canals have nothing. that just means their waterway. But most of them were owned by the associations because they were all dredged out at one time. And to
be honest, I opposed um the motion that Murf put up. And I have lots of friends on agreeing or they need some help, but uh I don't know enough to be honest with
anybody. I don't know enough about it and I want to learn. I But go to lepa.org and and light it up. No. And you'll and you'll see what what I'm talking about environmentalist and I also see opposition to dredging. So just
to be transparent with all of you, that's you know something. And there's a couple things about dredging. There's there's two options. You can either create a spoil area. I know when they did uh Laguna Shores last time, they did not do a spoil area.
Instead, they went to land. They took the spoil and they went to land and they trucked it off. So, that's one of the things that helped. I think it was environmentally um is why they did that. And it didn't match and the sand didn't match where they wanted to drop it.
Yeah, that was that was I think what you're talking about. Could have been too many shells in it too. I can't remember. Yeah. Wrong kind of soil or too muddy or something. There's a lot of sediment that gets dispersed all kinds of issues for wildlife and sea turtles. We have a new issue.
The new issue is when this gets dredged up. Used to be there's oil and stuff on the bottom. We have a whole hurricane full of everybody's chemicals from their garages and their yards and their vehicles. So that will be a lot worse,
more of a problem once that gets stirred up. But most likely a temporary problem to be addressed. Yes. And listen, I um got to confess. I'm sorry. I just remembered that I told y'all that I would bring the
um my uh monthly revenue reports and what voters I have in the field, the capacity and all that. Um, just from the event I did not get to print that out, but starting next meeting, I'll make sure that I have that moving forward for for every monthly. Ted would have asked
you about that. I know. I know he would have. I know. Okay. Do you need to go, Jennifer? Okay. All right. Just You have any more comments? N. Thank you. I have nothing additional. Thank you. Uh, I just wanted
to give a few thoughts about the Sunshine training that most of us here went through. I think Sam was the only one from our committee who wasn't there, but you've been through it before. I watch I watched it on YouTube. We watched on YouTube. Okay, perfect. Um, so just a few best practices that I took
away and just want to make sure that everybody feels like those were the things we were supposed to take away. Um, but uh, Nancy was supportive of what I have been doing in creating sort of recaps about what we talked about and
what our deliverables were, getting those to Curtis to send out to the entire committee. That way, we're not relying and waiting on meeting notes that are official and we actually, you know, can move forward a little bit more quickly. Um, as we all know, no communication between members directly
about anything related to AAC business. So, we use our good friend Curtis as our conduit for that. Um, meetings must be in public noticed, minutes taken. We learned that when we were planning the event that we could have additional meetings as long as the
public was invited and interest, you know, knew that it was taking place and they could attend. Um, and I think for future reference because we are not necessarily a nonprofit like some of the other organizations are that are planning events. As long as we go in
front of the council and ask for permission to do the like we did this year, we should be fine in continuing that. Does any of that ring untrue? Thank you. Can I just add something to that,
please? Um, you know, the town attorney part of that discussion was that being on AAC, I could talk to someone on the audit committee about something the audit committee is working on or vice versa. I
would say that working on the same issue being dredging. Would probably be a good idea to maybe not speak off public record with a committee member about about that
particular issue. Something that crossing. It's not committee to committee though. It's within your committee. So if you're on you can't discuss the things that could potentially come up for motion or discussion within that committee but you
and I have discussion on whatever is doing right but what I'm saying is it's it's the same issue and I maybe I'm not an attorney. There's actually people that like me but um I would just be careful about that. if
it's I think he's talking about the dredging specifically because that is something that Murf talked about and it's something that will probably be sort of an overlapping discussion. So if there is something that we think might come before the MURF committee, we probably shouldn't talk to another MU
committee member about No, right. Do you are you following me? I don't think she I don't think she is. Yeah. So So I I think what he's see if I can explain this a little bit better. I think what he's saying he just wants to be cautious because say we do get involved with MURF
and where me and Tad are doing the dredging involved when you get involved if we are working together on this dredging project say whenever down the road that comes right and and we're we're discussing it same with M he's saying he would be cautious to discuss
that with MURF members because we are both we are both handling the same the same project you see what I'm Does that make a little bit more and we wouldn't want to influence Murf's decision or you wouldn't want to influence so how can I
be on this committee and committee and talk about it you just can't talk to yourself about this darn it so obviously it's you know he it's
exactly what why I think um Ed is um was bringing this up is just to be cautious something to think about from what when that time time arises but I think you being you're kind of a loophole because you're on both well so you you can discuss and
talk about it with us here in the meeting same with MR it's the outside with members to member this is in public also right this isn't this is public this is notice this follows all those guidelines right so I I obviously don't discuss anything with MURF outside of
the meetings and anything that is in this meeting I do not discuss with any of you. I'm following sunshine law. So I'm just curious. I mean that's just part of the sunshine law. Just wondering if maybe I'm still not understanding what
the situation is. I think it's I think it is a topic related thing. So I'm not I don't think Ed is saying hey we can never talk to a MURF committee member about turtles. But what he's saying is if we're talking about if we're thinking about dredging because you guys on the
mer committee have an opinion, you've brought something forward, you've made a motion, we're talking about it here. Um it might be challenging to have that conversation. Let's say I talked to Dave Nusbomb and said, "Hey, what are you guys doing about dredging?" Or your
husband who's my li again, I guess. No, I know. I totally get it. It It gets very complicated. Jennifer can't talk to herself. I just don't think that's breaking. I think that may be a question for the attorney, but I really don't
think because you're not on the town council, however, and he's not even your li judicial. So that might be an issue. But I think well I'm I have to talk to myself because I'm on the MURF and I'm on
Anchorage. But I believe that you can have a conversation with another MURF member Mr. Nesbomb or something like that. I don't think that's breaking sunshine law. Who am I to say? I think they're right about you need to be careful if because we may be voting on
the exact same thing that they're voting on. So that that's definitely a hard line. That's a great intellectual question and I I've listened to both sides here and I'm I'm leading with you on that, Jennifer, but at the same time,
I'm not attorney. I'm not an attorney and it's a good question and uh hopefully we can also get to the core of this and figure out jurisdictionally who's best to handle these types of issues. Again, it doesn't matter to me who wins. Do it. We ought to have some direction as to who does
what, you know. Another we could also whenever the topic comes up and we want to as a committee we want to um have some uh input in uh the the decision uh any decision or any you know maybe a
joint meeting that would be another good way to address it go about it that way it's just cut clear and okay uh a couple more Um, public records law. Just a reminder that if you get any
requests for public records, whether that is in writing or orally, you would pass those along to Amy Baker to complete those. Probably a good idea to CC Curtis on that. Um, remember that communication on your private device
about AAC business is discoverable. Um, it is your your device may be yours, but the stuff that's on it and if you're talking about business that could be used. So, be judicious. Um, voting conflicts. Make sure you're not
voting on anything where you or relatives might be in a position to lose or gain. I think that was that was it. So, that's what I took away. Okay. Any other member comments? And as I understand it, Madam Chair, any
conversations that the committee has with me outside the committee is okay. Okay. regarding the the Anchorage Advisory Committee. Yeah, that's always been my understanding. Yeah. Or Curtis. Or Curtis. Yeah, that's right. Public comment. Anyone?
Motion to adjourn. Nope, we can't do that yet. Not yet. Uh we have to set the next meeting's agenda. But so close. So close, Sam. Um so here's what I have for next meeting. And and first of all, I'd like to say that um I'm willing to attend the
council meeting on May 5th just to wrap up of how the event went. Okay. So, I would like to get, you know, the information from you, um, Sam through Curtis as to where we actually came up. Yep. With our meals and then, um, Curtis can give us a
financial replay and then I can I can share with council. If you're gonna if you're going to if you're going to come before the council and you may be planning on doing this anyways because we do have a lot of people who watch those meetings, nice opportunity to recognize our sponsors and those who donated all the prizes. That would be
great. Y I will provide it back. But I mean when you say it at the mic then the sponsors get some some love. You know I can do that. That'll be like my recitation where and Ryan says, "Oh god, she's doing a head and she's reading all this stuff." So but I will do that. You get accused of granularism.
I will do it. You're famous. Any any publicity is good publicity, right? Well, I used to think that. But if you read as fast as that. Yeah, I will zip right through it. Um, I have a comment on that. I just like to say, Jim, when when you give those detailed
reports, you go fast and like the Santine thing, you go fast. It's off the subject, but you go fast and you give all the information that everybody wants to hear. So, thank you for that. Thank you. I appreciate that. Um, so what I'm suggesting for the next meeting is can we start sort of doing
this level setting on where we are, where we're going, um, based on information I've gotten from TED and information from Curtis, you know, we have those different statutes or plans where our responsibilities are outlined, but we're
really not sure which one of those is right or current. So what I would like to do is create a document that says here's the agreement. Here's from the moing plan. Here's the things that we think are probably important for us to have as responsibilities. And that way we can create one sort of chewed up
document. So we can say, okay, and is any of this really necessary by statute or was that just something that was put in there? We know that we need to have a committee to have a land lease. So that is important to know. But are the responsibilities
necessarily legally bound or can we determine what we want our responsibilities to be in accordance to supporting the town? So I'd like to put that together and then maybe we can have a little bit of a a strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats discussion and talk about key
deliverables for the rest of this year and into 2026. And certainly dredging and the dinghy dock and some of those other things that are going on now will be on that list. Could and ready for one more suggestion. Sure. Could we possibly since the uh
arches will be theoretically heard on the 5th and the 19th if it does pass uh and I looks like our even if we have to move our meeting to Tuesday, it would be after those. Would it be possible to have Frankie appear before us and just
give us an update as to what that new synergy is between the moing facilities and uh the arches project if any? Absolutely. That'd be great. I just think it'd be good to I think the public would find that interesting and obviously germanine to our purposes here and and quite honestly I'm I'm
interested particularly when it's all said and done what the uh what that outcome is. And do you think Curtis that this would be something that uh Mr. Yonzo would be interested in listening to you know our discussion about our roles and responsibilities? Absolutely. Okay.
Yeah, I can bring him in on that for that. Okay. So yes, I will ask. Okay. And um I will check with Amy after this to about what date we will have our
meeting on. I'm assuming because May 26th is Memorial Day, as you guys have pointed out, probably move it to Tuesday if that works for everybody. But yeah, we I feel like last year all of our meetings fell on all the holidays. So,
we need to do a better job of of um looking at that and not not having that happen. Okay. So, does that sound good with everybody? Yes. So Curtis will just send out as soon as we know when there's an opening. Yep. I will send out a recap
of what we talked about today and it will have our date on it. Okay. Can Can we get that sooner? Yeah, she'll send that whenever she gets it to me. I'll I'll send it out to all y'all and then we will Amy will let us know what dates what extra dates are available. Yep.
I'll go talk to her. Okay. Now, Sam, I move to adjourn. I'll second. Okay. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Hi. All right. Any opposed? Nay. All right. It is 10:30 and we are adjourned. Thank you so much everybody. Awesome.
Thank you. Party commit.