Good morning everyone. Today is Monday, September 22nd. It is 9:03 and I would like to call to order the meeting of the Anchorage Advisory Committee. Let's do the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right, let's do roll call. We'll start at that end. Von Farming, >> Edover, >> John Wesley, Nash,
>> Sam Lurry, >> Chris Rel King, >> Ted Law, >> Jennifer Rusk here, >> Curtis Lewig, >> Jim Adhole. >> Thank you. Uh, next up is public comment. I do not see anyone here for
public comment, so we will move on to approval of the minutes. Has everyone had a chance to look at the minutes from August 20th, our last meeting? Any comments on the meeting and meeting minutes? >> I'll move to approve the minutes.
>> Okay, we have a move uh a motion by Ed and second >> second >> by Ron. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Approved unanimously. Thank you. Next up, staff report and update. Curtis.
>> Alrighty. Uh good morning. Good morning everyone. Um uh just to go over a few a few items um in the morning field. The big news in the morning field now is we have a brand new dinghy dock. So it took us some time, but we are um grateful
that that we finally got it done. Um KBI did a great job and um uh and I'm uh I'm uh installing installing the dock. Um it's a little bit wider now. I don't know if any of y'all have gone down gone
down there uh to see it, but it's all one it's all one dock now. Um everything works works together. Uh we put we put an extra 4 foot 4 foot extensions. I'm
uh I'm a on the pile. So, um, so we have, uh, so hopefully, you know, if we do get another storm, we're not, you know, the surge isn't going to affect it and knock it off and that kind of stuff. So, um, and it's also a uh um
an aluminum dock, a floating dock, so we can uh remove it as well if if we needed to. So, um, moving on, >> Curtis, do you envision, uh, if we have a serious storm coming that literally taking it out?
>> Um, I mean, no, I I don't I don't I don't foresee that. But if we have enough time, let's take the, you know, um, you know, be cautious and, uh, remove it if we have enough time to do so. But if not, the piles are long longer now or
taller, I should say. So, you know, it should be able to weather a 15 foot plus storm surge now. So, >> really 15. Okay. >> Well, that's what we've the height of the piles now. >> Gotcha. Okay. >> And Curtis, that's a floating. >> It floats, right? >> Correct. It rises with the water >> with the Yes, ma'am.
>> Okay. >> All righty. Um uh did y'all get my um AAC um morning field and maritime uh report? So that's kind of what I'm uh going off of right now. Um uh so there
is one thing and um um one of the big big things we're in topic now obviously right now I just want to let you know we have moved our trailer back down uh to the dinghy dock. It is uh where the old uh old uh ConX
boxes used to be. So, it's back in the original original place. Um and uh so we are going to be operating out of the trailer for some time now. Um um but it would be a goal of mine to
find us a more permanent uh facility in the near in the near future. Um so um we are discussing things. Um Matanzas offered us to uh rent the old office again but that is in in in discussion
right now. Um we uh we just got um we just got approval for our new CVA grant contract. So, we are back in the game with that.
Um, and that that will help us operate for all of our pumpout needs. Um, and um um and that also supports us in maintaining the pumpout boat as well um with all the maintenance
and stuff that we need to take care of with that. So, um we're glad that that got approved and back into effect now. Um, >> does that what does that stand for? >> The CVA. It It's the um uh um Clean
Water Vessel Act. >> So, I'm sorry. It's It's C V D um Charlie Charlie Victor A >> Alpha. Yes, sir. So, um, that's one thing I want to, um, bring up and ask for y'all's, uh,
suggestions as well. Um, uh, so we kept the old the old dinghy dock. Um, and, uh, we have them stored in the PW lot right now. Um, but we are open to ideas of uh putting those elsewhere throughout
the island and what we could use them for. Um, just right now I have an idea of maybe putting one of the longer ones down at the mouthouse so boats can tie up to that a little bit better, be able to use the mouthouse facility by boat
and go visit that by boat. Um but uh um so we're open for other other options and suggestions. Uh so it's something to you know think about. And uh >> how quickly do you want those suggestions, Curtis?
>> Um maybe we can talk about it at next meeting, bring that up and be be one of our one of our topics. >> How many are there? >> Is it just >> three of them? There's three. >> Three. Yes, ma'am. >> Saw them go by truck down tropical
shores. Are they behind the old town hall building now? >> They are in our public works lot. So, it's in a fenced in locked up area. Um I do want to bring up um we are going uh to be raising um the rates in the
morning field. We're going to move up our daily rate um from from $30 to $35. And um we are moving our monthly rate to it's going to be 440 a month. Is that
correct me if I'm wrong, Patty? >> You should come to the mic. You come to the microphone, >> Patty. >> Sorry to >> I'm okay. So basically it's going to end up being 14 $15 plus tax per day
based on a 28 day month because we have a lot of confusion in DACA when we say it's a flat this is it for the month when there's so many different days in a month. So if it's 31 days it's 28 days at a flat rate plus the other two days.
So, I'm trying to get that across to the voters and that's very difficult for them to understand because they think flat rate should be a flat rate which in all actuality it's not. So, that's why I'm going with the $15 plus tax per day
for 28 days plus. Does that make sense? >> Do we have a weekly rate as well or it's daily or monthly? >> It's daily or monthly. >> Okay. And how does that compare to um other marinas? Where does this sort of put us in the, you know, baseline of high, low? Are we in the middle?
>> We're between the middle and the high end. >> Okay. >> But we are also a safe hay harbor. So that helps. A lot of people came in before Ian. So, and they
most of them did very well. So >> along along with the storms last year, we had several boats uh come in come into the morning field. Um um we had Oh, Patty's come back up,
please. Um but we only had two vessels break free burnt during during both both storms, but um it was on it was on their the vessels and so nothing happened to the morning balls. Um I still put boats on them.
um um to this day. And we also got the morning mo morninging balls inspected after the storm. So all everything everything checked out well. Um and just so everybody knows, this is this is Patty. Patty Post. Um she's the um I'm a
marine marine operations coordinator. So just want to introduce her to y'all. She will be showing up to the meeting. she uh she helps me in the office and everything like that. So, >> question Patty, if someone stays, they decide to come for a week and they end
up staying like at least 12 days or 13 to where can they transition into that monthly? >> The minute it hits 28 days, it goes into the monthly. >> No. If they stay like 15 days, >> no. >> Will they they can't transition to it?
>> They have to stay at least 28 days for it to go into the monthly. the cheaper fee. >> Okay. So otherwise it's just per DM. >> Yes. Correct. >> And just so you know, I've worked for the town for over 10 years. So this is
my first time I've only had one job. >> When do these go into effect? >> They they have to be approved through the budget and they will go into effect October 1st. Okay. >> Okay. >> And the budget meeting is this Wednesday. So they'll be approved this
Wednesday. All right. As far as updates go, that's that's all I have on my end for right now. Um, well, I do want to mention, um, do you have any questions about the report that I send out along with the maritime report uh, for the reservations
and everything that that uh, that we've been this is the second second round of these that we have stuck with. So, just wanted to make sure everybody is understands the reports. And
>> Ted, what do you got there? You want to talk about this? I know this is your your passion. >> I I don't know whether it's available. Thank you. I don't know whether it's >> available to everybody. I'll send one that way and one that way.
>> I can send two that way. >> I sent these out to everybody by email this morning, too. So, um I know it was early. You might have not have checked your emails, but uh check them again and they should uh >> should have this in here. >> I have the Where is this on here?
The >> totals for uh the months are here. I haven't haven't gotten back before May. Do we have u did you send out totals prior to May? I I couldn't >> totals prior to May
>> the monthly sheet. Did you send it? I I seem to only have the monthly sheet beginning in May. Did we have any prior to that? We did, but I only I think we only started with the with the May month of May because that's when we started
discussing this if I'm not mistaken. >> Except those are not available. >> I I You're talking about these sheets? >> Yeah, >> I can I can try to get you them to you. >> No hurry. Okay. >> Well, I I can do that for you if that's what you want. How far back do you want
me to go? >> Um >> the fiscal year. >> Yeah. >> Okay, that's fine. I just need to know. Um, and just so you know, I did change the days on the months because it gives you a grand total of how long they've actually stayed there, which is not a
clear picture in my mind because you're going by that month. So, I changed it. If they were there 31 days, I changed it to 31 days instead of 175 or whatever it was. So, I hope that makes it clearer for you. If you want me to change it
back, that's fine. I can do that. Just you need to let me know what I need to do. Okay. >> Just have one. Uh what is the number to the far right on not what Ted, but you >> if you have 89 balls and I couldn't
remember in the middle of the night how many we had that percentage usage. >> Sorry, Ted. This is I'm talking about Curtis's report. >> Oh, sorry. >> You're talking about the num >> you're talking about the numbers off off to the side of the chart. >> Yep.
>> Okay. So, um, you see the the, uh, 40ft spaces, right? And you have that break, right? So, that tells you that there's 12 there's 12 vessels on the 40ft moorings that we have. So, that's just a total number of that
of that group of uh, how many vessels we have on those 40 foot moorings. So, there's 12 right there. >> Okay, I think I get it. So it's just a total of uh each class of >> correct >> morning ball if you will. >> Yes sir. >> Thank you.
>> So Ted if Patty gives you for the fiscal year all of the information that's what you would like to have and then you can kind of put together a >> I'll try to extend this. I haven't been out of town and I haven't been able to work on it. So yes, I'd like to put the
same thing that we have in that uh presentation for the fiscal year. >> And is everybody good with how Curtis has been sharing this information? This is very helpful to help us understand who's in the morning field at what time? >> Okay.
>> Yes. >> Patty, are are these charts available? um by any means between monthlies. In other words, can we see them progress within the month or is that not practical?
>> I'm not understanding the question. >> What exactly would you like to see? >> Well, this uh this Excel report here. >> Okay. >> Um I I assume this is a monthly report, >> correct? That's just for the month of
>> August. >> August. >> Right. So this is a a total report for that month. >> Correct. There's no way for the committee to see that built on a periodic basis, daily basis, work weekly
basis and and not maybe available >> um um to the committee or is that is that not practical? Is that over? >> I'm not sure. I'm trying to understand what you'd like to see. Do you want to see so like an on an annual basis? What?
>> No. No, ma'am. weekly basis. >> Weekly. >> So, so here's all the 40footers for the month that occurred in the month. >> So, you want a breakdown of the 40footers week? >> Yes. Well, if it's practical, if it's
not practical, I don't know if we need it. >> Yeah. I mean, if you take a look at the nights, I mean, you can see that predominantly these people are staying the entire month, and there's only a few of them that have only stayed a couple of days. Is that getting at what you're looking for, John?
>> Actually, I I was looking for this report to to progress throughout the month. So the first week, second week, third week, fourth week, >> um in a in a manner that we can access it, >> but that may be overkill.
>> And maybe that's down the road. I mean, maybe we get used to this and see what patterns it shows us and then down the road if we figure out we want a little more granular look at it, we could dissect it a little bit more. >> I think that's a good idea. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Pat. You're welcome.
So, any more conversation, any more questions about occupancy? Um, are you seeing things start to build up? When when when do you think we're hitting season? >> I think we're going to hit season
I mean, we're already getting more um uh um phone calls and inquiries um uh I'm about the moing field for the season right now. Um, and we're get we're having people put in put in reservations right now that we have to put on the
wait list that are for February, December, stuff like that for the season. So, we're already starting to see a pickup as as to the point of like interest and stuff like that. Um, we're still kind of slow, kind of on the slowest uh point of the season, but I
say around November, we should see it start start picking up picking up good. This um this is wonderful. Um, you captured the vessel name. Is there any value to the committee to capture the port of call for these vessels so we can
see kind of where we're drawing the most uh most vessels? How many are coming? How many are Florida vessels? How many are vessels that that um are coming from from Maryland, New York,
um such uh I don't know if you gather that information. You gather a vessel name. Do you gather a protocol? >> We do not. I mean I mean they'll they'll list on their DACA information of where they're from and their and their personal information that they
have to put in there for the DACA profile. But um I mean you know for for pumpouts and stuff like that we got to we got to look at if they're Florida vessel or non but we don't >> we don't look at exactly where they're
from all the time. I mean, that's something that we could start pay attention to, but we we do when we do our pump house, we talk to the uh um people and stuff like that. You know, we we start conversation with them. So, where they're from gets gets gets
brought up a lot. But during during season, we have a lot of great great loopers and >> that's what I'm trying to capture. >> Okay. >> Is is uh but I I don't want that collected manually. It's not worth it manually. Uh if this can be pulled out
of DACA, obviously the vessel names being pulled out of DACA. Is the port call pulled out of DACA or available in DACA? >> You meaning so so port to me um with my commercial maritime background, that's like the the last port that they're
>> that they're coming from. You want you want their you want their home port where they're from. For example, my my vessel is uh it name is Wesley May, but it's portto call is Reva, Maryland. And
as you know, any any vessel that uh that is documented has to display a port call, >> right? >> And if if that's available in DACA, that would >> So that's pretty much where the vessel's registered, >> right? Yes. Right. >> I can check and see if I can pull that
from a report. If I can, I'll add >> I I think it would be interesting to see that and maybe there'll be some value if it's available being pulled, not manually connecting it. >> I've never seen it, but then I never really looked for it either to be truthful. So, I will when we go back, I
will check and see if that's even available. >> Before we you do that, does anyone else in the committee feel that's valuable? Well, I I think it could give us a pattern and because I'm thinking that you're going along the lines of how can we better promote and if we know that, hey, there's a lot of people coming from
Maryland, we could look for, you know, digital opportunities to promote to those borders and say, hey, your friends are coming down here and it's great and we can do some um testimonials, things like that. or or grabbing a pattern exactly what you're saying and then look exactly what you're talking about how
and where we we can promote um if we're seeing a lot of vessels out of New York and in in in the winter time we know they're hanging over we see a lot of vessels out of New York in the summertime they're probably passing
through on the great loop um which probably means we should focus more advertising um towards the great loop. >> Okay. >> People um >> but again this is only if it's easily
pulled if it's a download it makes no the effort of manually connected uh connect connect collecting it is not of the it's not worth it. >> Okay. Understood. >> Does the town advertise in other areas
for our mooring field? I'm not sure we advertise, but I mean, if Nicole were, you know, looking for places to uh send feature stories, I think John has a lot of information about, you know, voting magazines, voting, you know, digital opportunities.
So, that's probably how we would target. I don't think we would pay for something. But >> well, Madam Chair, I I did present um a list digitally what I felt was the most efficient ways to promote
um different uh different organizations um such as the Great Loop organization. I don't think we've acted on it, but it's something that I think stands in front of the committee to determine if it's uh worth doing.
Do you have another question? >> And John, I just want to reiterate real fast. We are going to be joining the cruisers, cruisers.net, and that'll be um and that is more um it reaches out to the Great Loopers and stuff like that.
Um so um and they do a little bit of advertisement for us in that sense too. So that's something we're going to be joining this new fiscal year and um and that should that should help us out a lot. >> That's excellent. That was one of the re
resources that I had in my report. Um if we feel like it's worth expanding that such as to the Great Loop organization, >> right? um as we should be a wonderful target on the great loop. Um it it may
be worth expanding that. >> Okay. >> But that's I believe a discussion when when uh when the madam chair chooses to put it on the agenda. Madam Chair, just for the record, uh, for us lay people out there, the Great
Loop is a 6,000mi boating adventure that circumnavigates the eastern half of North America by following a system of inland waterways, rivers, canals, the Great Lakes, and the Atlantic and Gulf inter coastal waterways. Just uh thought I'd a lot of folks don't
may who are watching may not know what that is, but that's that's helpful, John. >> Thank you, Jim, for going to the Google for us. appreciate that. >> That was not off the top of my head. >> Okay. >> No, that that's very accurate. But we happen to be in a good position to
capture a lot of that traffic because the u once you get into the Florida waterways on the western side, um there's not a lot of uh facilities like ours that can accommodate larger
vessels, any size vessels for whatever period they choose to do it. and the ones that they do um sometimes have a higher fee than we have here and and certainly don't have the attractions um that we have here. So that that's uh
simply where I think is one of the the organizations we should f focus on. Uh I I've seen that done by other marinas in along the great loop and it's been successful. All right. Any other questions for Curtis on the report that he put out,
the uh AAC Morningfield and Maritime report? Several pages. Okay. Curtis, do you want to talk a little bit about the canal and dredging plan and just uh where that is? >> Absolutely. Um so right now for the canal
canal and dredging plan um for the town of Fort Myers Beach um you know as you all as you all know it comes down it comes down it comes down to funding right now. Um but the town does have some money set aside to move forward
with the um uh um I'm a surveying and permitting process. Um uh um I believe we are going to have an engineer come out survey survey the canals um and kind
of really get down to the bottom of which ones need it which ones don't how much we're looking looking to dredge out out of uh each each uh each canal. Um but um that is going to be the starting
point. Um but as of right now the funding for the actual project we do we're we're still seeking op options. Um the best way to go about it is that that um um uh on a letter we put out uh last
month you know um we're looking for the residents to um you know I'm a contribute as well. Um, but we're talking we're talking years down the road until this, you know, till the
actual if it gets approved and all that for the dredging to take place. So, um, but there's a lot of permitting process. It's that's, you know, going to take, you know, a year a year or so to complete and stuff like that. Um,
especially with the mouth of each each canals. um you know that those get filled up a lot a lot quicker, but we have to uh pertain to submerged submerged land leases and stuff like that. So, the permitting process is
going to be um extensive. >> So, the town has money to hire an engineer. >> That's what I've been told. Yes, >> ma'am. So, what >> and that was shared on the MURF meeting last week as well. Um um uh I sat in on
that meeting and that was that was talked about. Um and so that's kind of where we're at. So it's not it's not really growing legs at this point. It's kind of at a standstill right now with the town. So um but we are hoping to move forward with the surveying and
start at least starting that that process. Um but there's no timeline on that or anything like that as of now. And who with the town is really driving this project or will drive it forward? >> It's going to be uh myself and Chad and then also I mean I mean the town manager
is the one to give us the go-ahhead on on uh you know everything. So it kind of kind of comes from Will first and then uh Chad and myself will be the ones uh driving it. Do you have a copy of that report that
you read um uh from Chad on doing the dredging? >> Jennifer, is it this thing? >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Does everyone here have it? >> Yeah, that was sent out to us electronically. >> Just wanted to make sure. >> Okay. Um help me understand. Do we know
how many canals we have and how many channels? Is there really just one channel that we're concerned about? The Laguna channel. I'm not familiar with how many channels. So, >> no. As far as I'm understood, this is going this is we're we're talking about
every every canal on the on the island. Um, >> is there a difference between a canal and a channel? >> Um, well, yes, there is. I mean, the canals are the channels more for your open waterway navigation. the canals are
more more so for your neighborhood accesses and uh things of that nature. So, um you know the canals is everything that goes back into a neighborhood. Um streets, that kind of thing. So, it lines the
roads these these canals. Yes, ma'am. >> And how many channels do we have? Do you know? >> Well, channels we have I think you're getting confused on the channels canal. the canals we have over I think we have 30 30 canals but that
that the it's it's actually more because the canals will branch off into other other canals so I think the number is like around 40 43 um but I can get that exact number for you I don't have it on the top of my head but I think that's in the ballpark
>> and a lot of the canals are either owned or under the tax roles of homeowners associations. >> Correct. And that was another thing that got brought up in the MURF meeting. Somebody said, you know, maybe um with some of these uh condos um in the
private in the private canals that maybe the HOA can get involved and um you know, because they'll pay for certain things. that was um you know somebody just brought that up as a suggestion and something to look to look into you know
>> not only pay but we may need to get permission. >> Well >> correct correct correct I mean yes you you know you're people are going to have to take it to their board of the HOA and that so I mean we're talking a long a long process to being you know working
out the lot you know for this to get accepted and move forward. So, >> I mean ultimately it's an assessment. However, if it's on your tax role, if it's through your HOA, it's it's an assessment. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Questions on the document or sounds
like, you know, this is going to be going forward for a while. So, you'll just keep us updated if there are things that we need to consider. >> Yes, ma'am. Absolutely. >> Okay. Chris, do you have anything else? Um, I'm thinking we might do member reports because I know Jennifer has to leave a
little early and then we might talk about roles and responsibility. >> No, that's fine. I was I was going to say that concludes my my um uh updates and reports. So, >> okay. >> Well, let's go to member items and then we'll come back to talking about sort of
the charter and our duties as we see them to include in the ordinance. So, Ron, anything? >> Uh, in your report, Curtis, you've mentioned the uh four or five boat ramps
and uh there's also a the Delmare kayak launch. Uh the signage is gone and I'd like to see that returned. It's part of the Kousa Blueway. Uh, it lets visitors
and residents know that that is public access because sometimes people claim it's theirs and it's not. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> And >> um just about regarding the bow ditch
dredging that we talked about at the last meeting. Has that began yet? the dredging um at Bodage. >> No, no, that hasn't began yet. >> That has not that has not began. Um there's still there's still discussions
and meetings about that. No, no work has been lifted off the grounds right now. >> Anything else? Ed, >> sorry. No, if that's it. >> Okay, John. >> Nothing at this time. Sam,
>> yes. I just wanted to double check with the vice mayor. Um, I spoke at the meeting right before the budget and I asked that we carry forward the $1,577 and get an additional $500. Was that approved?
>> It's a great question. Uh Sam, I had the the chair reached out to me on that matter as well, and I had a meeting with the town manager and with uh uh the uh finance director uh last week uh late last week and raised the issue to both
of them. Uh they both acknowledged it. They both uh uh expressed that they didn't see any problem with it. Uh the budget will be formally dealt with on Wednesday of this week. So, I assume at that point it would be codified. Whether it's actually referenced in the budget
or not, I don't know. But I did get their assurance that that we would be accommodated. Um, I have to confess or I think they're just overwhelmed with bigger finance challenge at this at this point, but they both acknowledged that that they heard the will of the
committee and they they they they didn't give me any indication that they would not be able to accommodate it. >> Okay. Well, that was our ask. However, if we just roll over the 1577, I don't think we're going to have a I don't think we're going to have a deficit or a problem. Right. Patty, you
want to comment on that? Historically, they've always made it a line item. and I will do my best to make sure that it is a line item whether it's the full amount that you're asking for or the rollover but it should be in
there as a line item because as part of the budget I take care of the budget on our side and I'm very picky and meticulous about numbers being a single mom for 100 years. So, >> um,
>> I'm very, very, you can ask Curtis, I'm like the mom down there. So, I put the kibash on friv frival, you know, frivolous spending. So, not that they do that every now and then, but you know,
we all have our wish lists. So, if it's a line item, I can keep better track also. So, I will do my best to make sure that it is a line item. Okay? And I'm hopeful moving forward that we won't have to ask for anything that more
than a rollover after after if we have a successful event this year, we should just be asking for a rollover hopefully from now on. Um just wanted to comment the dingy dock. Our number one priority as long as I've
been on the committee is safety of the Moringfield patrons and the general public. the new dinghy dock. If you haven't been down there, it's as safe as it's going to be. It's It barely moves when you walk on it. There are absolutely no gaps, no hinges. So, I
think you guys did a great job on that. Um, I just wanted to suggest maybe that we look into renting the old office with Matanzis. I'm not sure how Curtis feels about that or anybody else. I know it
was really a nice spot when we had it going. Um, we custom made it to be a a really nice spot. It was a good air conditioned lounge for the voters. We even had a little bit of supplies there.
And it was it was a big improvement. So, if we could look into that any further, that would be >> If I could just jump in on that, Sam. I know that um I don't think that the building's actually available for rent. I know that it's for sale
and I think that would play and and Curtis just mentioned earlier that the town was negotiating to possibly rent it again. >> I mean, I've I've brought it I brought it to their to their attention um several times, but what it boils down to
right now is, you know, the budget and everything like that. So, I think they're just trying to get through the budget and seeing if we have, you know, money to accommodate that or not. Um but um um I mean that's where things are at. So it's I haven't gotten a whole lot of
feedback on that. Um but it is something that is that is on the table or or an option for us. Um but as of now, you know, we're we're working we're working at the trailer.
One more thing, I don't know if anybody saw it on the news this week. Another shrimp boat hit the bridge. >> And I was wondering if Curtis if you have any contact with whoever does the signage on the there isn't there a clearance says it's 64 feet or there's a
clearance a foot marker on there. if there's anything we could do to improve that. >> On the trussles of the bridge, there should be a um a numbering system for where the level of the water is so you can tell the >> the height the height of the bridge. Um
that's something that's um I could push to the Coast Guard and stuff like that um to uh to be reassessed. But um I just want to I just want to reiterate that that that >> that shrimpo did not hit the bridge. So
it did not make contact with the structure of the bridge. Um the outrigger touched the um um the ladder well. It like barely it barely got it. It was actually excellent
maneuvering of the captain. Um you could tell he had his outriggers a little bit. They were not all the way up. They were they were out for a reason. So he could get through. He was a little bit closer to that one side. But if you all saw that video, I'm sure that's what you're
speaking about. Um that uh where you see that black black smoke come out. Um the captain kind of kind of pivoted and he cleared that by by inches. He might have tapped that,
but no no bridge bridge structure was hit or damaged or anything like that. So, um, >> are the numbers readable >> on the clearance numbers um on that scale? >> Yes, they are. But they should be we'll
we'll look at them this week. See if you know what we can do. And I'll I'll call the right um the right people to see if we can um you know get that get that cleaned up or if it needs to be replaced or whatever. I'll see see what channels I have to go through to get that get
that looked at. >> I can speak to that. U first of all, he went out on a high tide, >> right? >> And uh the the numbers are there. Maybe they could be repainted, but >> they're there.
>> They're there and go out. I mean, and it was a high tide, not just, you know, 2.5. I think it was a 3.4 or something. It was up there. >> And also the u the numbers exist on the
Matt system, the um Noah nautical mat system. >> Yeah. for all your charts and everything. All the bridge heights are listed and everything like that. So you you know um you know captains have all that um to them you know so they can you
know make the right call. So >> and one last item um when we get to discussing fairies Mr. Vice Mayor um I do see a it's great that you're trying to incorporate this as public benefit because it would be really nice
to have. However, the three primary locations that we're thinking about, Moss Marine, um, Snookbite, and Fishtail, two of those three do not even have parking right now
to accommodate what they already have. So, as you're looking at that, maybe uh factor in how we could have any parking at those at those sites >> for people that want to use it. >> Mr. Vice Chair, that's an excellent point. Uh
I raised it at a cell cab meeting the other day uh on for the moundhouse because that's also one of the potential locations. They've got some challenges on parking as well. Well, they've got an auxiliary a lot. That's not It's okay, but it's not going to solve the issue of
the of the ferry dynamic. Obviously, with Fishtail Marina, you've got Santini Plaza to have spillover, which is in everybody's interest, including Santini Plaza. They're rarely if ever full. Um, so that's a nice option. But yeah, those are those are real challenges as we go
forward as we look at this opportunity of the ferry is the because as everybody knows and maybe things I hope not I obviously want uh junk and and fresh catch to do well but as the other restaurants begin to open maybe that's not quite I mean it's the only place on
the south end right now so obviously they're packed um and maybe that moderates a little bit as other restaurants open but I think there'll be opportunities to to to there's a lot of vacant lots sadly still on on the island. So, we'll have to look and but you're right, that's something we need to be thinking about as we look at that
broader ferry solution. I would say I was just talking the other day uh to the London Bay folks uh about the uh the ferry issue. Uh they have their own uh proposal uh that originally was going to go through Charlie's at the through the through the residential canal. Obviously
the residents of that area expressed serious concerns and to Londonbased credit uh they have reversed their position on that and they are now going to go through Fishtail Marina as well which has a number of uh uh impacts. Obviously we get out of the residential
canals but we also all those folks then will be passing through and by Santini Plaza. Now their business model I thought it was originally just going to be London Bay properties around uh Lee County. No, they're going to open it up to a lot of different folks on Lee County to be able to utilize this ferry
system, which is so critical during the off season because for the businesses to survive on the south end, you know, that they need additional uh flow uh traffic flow and and business uh uh infusion uh during the off season. So, I think this
could be a huge blessing to Santini Plaza and the other businesses on the south end if they can get this ferry system going through uh Fishtail Marina. So that's exciting. Uh and uh unfortunately that that's the one area we don't have a parking challenge. Um but your point is well taken. So uh just
just that that just this is all just for your information. I mean none of this has been formally presented yet by by London Bay, but I I do think that's a big piece of the puzzle uh because that was where a lot of their uh local folks had raised a lot of concerns about that. So
>> yeah, >> thanks Jim. Sam, anything else? That's it. >> Okay. Ted, >> nothing at this time. >> Jennifer, vice chair, do you mind taking those photos and passing them on down and take one?
>> Take one and pass. There you go. >> I have a lot on my wish list, so bear with me. Uh, one thing that I wanted to ask uh, the councilman and Curtis is, uh, why couldn't we work uh, the Moren Field or get an office going, maybe even
temporary or uh, at Bay Oaks? I know it's further away from from your the action, but until we can actually find some place, uh, would it be possible to use Bay Oaks as a hub until something
more permanent? Are you meaning Bay Oaks like the gym and being in that in there? >> There's some areas back there that uh you know I know that we store um equipment and balls and exercise stuff, but I'm sure I mean I'm I'm just
wondering I'm just curious if that has been um something that's come up. So >> I I would I I don't that's the first I've heard of it, Jennifer. I don't know that it's a bad idea. I just don't know. I'd have to defer to uh to our harbor master as to whether the logistics of
that would make practical sense. I just don't know. >> Yeah, >> I was I'm just curious. So, >> um >> you can think of >> No, I understand. Yes, that has been brought up. Um there are there are um you know, I know we own some land over
there, but um you know, I think there's other plans for that right now. Um, so, um, we're still just kind of, you know, we're working out of the trailer where we're at right now. We think that that is where we're at right
now is the best place for the time being right now because it's just, um, the best area. Um, where the dinghyd is, where I can see most of the customers, um, they can come right off and talk to us right there. Um and uh you know we
would um you know there's been talks about you know wish lists for an office all over the island right what would be the best spot but um you know we're still thinking about that but as of right now we think where the trailer is now right next to the dinghy dock is the
best centralized location for our mooring field office at the time. Um and you know there there could be plans down the road for the Bay stuff and stuff like that. Um but that's um you know we have to have discussions higher up.
>> Just out of curiosity because I know it's been all over the news that trailers have to be off the beach um without uh getting an extension. Is that so town trailers can stay? No, we are within the requirements um um of the
trailer um of the trailers because it's a mobile trailer. We can pull it off whenever we we want. So, we hook it up straight to the truck and we're out of there. Um so, um that's why we're able to to still work out of the trailer and
still be down where we're at. Um >> any uh updates on uh the boat ramps? >> So the last I talked um me and me and Frankie discussed he said that they are looking at options with some of the
rubble and stuff that they're doing at Bay Oaks and stuff and the crust. They're going to crush some concrete and be able to fill that in down at Myar. Um the discussion with the coconut boat ramp um that is still still in
discussion up top. Um so um I haven't gotten any any movement or word on um what that contract's doing with the concrete company to to um to replace the boat ramp at Coconut or
to put a new one in to pour concrete. is pretty. It's all the original handmade stuff there right now that got exposed during the during the storms. >> So, we're going to use um we're going to use concrete that is coming from
somewhere else, break it down and use it for >> That's what I've been That's what I've been told. Yes, ma'am. >> To cut down on costs for >> correct. >> Okay. Right. Um and then I have shared a picture that I took on September 1st. I
walk there with uh my dog every day and this was really disheartening. Uh this is a picture of garbage cans, recycle bins with garbage bags overflowing. I did uh address this with Curtis during a MURF meeting and he said it was um it
was a holiday so they couldn't, you know, it was overflowing because no one uh got to it. And I guess my question was >> my >> Can I see? >> Oh, you know I sent this to you. Oh, I thought I had good. >> Um, my question is, does waste management come and pick up the morning
field garbage or does a town come, you know, the town uh folks that pick up garbage on the beach? Do they >> town employees pick it up? So, that's why >> you could have picked it up on that day because >> know that we were off that day. >> I saw people picking up garbage from the beach, the garbage cans, unloading the
garbage cans. >> Well, that Well, I mean, I don't know. We might be we might be talking about two different departments. I'm not I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not sure on that. >> Well, anyhow, there shouldn't be a day that the Moringfield ever has garbage
that's overflowing. Um it is in our land development code that all garbage uh needs to be concealed and either around either some trees or uh some sort of opaque um uh fencing. I'd like to see
that that that garbage if we had a windstorm that garbage could have tipped over and been in our water. It's unsafe for our Morinfield residents. It's unsafe for our wildlife. It's unsafe for our community. I don't like to see those garbage cans overflowing and I don't like to see them that close to the
waterway. So, uh in our land development code, it's important that the public also can't see it. So, it needs to be concealed. And I have a few ideas, but uh you know I I think if Are you saying that the
>> Do you mind if I take this? >> Do you mind? So now your office is over here. >> They've moved over here. Is there a way that we can put the garbage cans behind there and then maybe put some plants or just something to cover it up so it can't be seen?
>> Um yes. We can look at options to see uh where the best place we can put those. We thought that was the best place because these these trash cans are for the voters to be able to dump their their trash off and so it's not for our our purposes. It's for the voters out on
the morning field. Um but yeah, we can look at a different different area um to put that. Now, I just want to be clear the time you send out this picture, the trash was already taken care of and all that. So, um um it was just one of those days where it got um and how the weekend
fell with the holiday weekend with the extra day. So, um I do apologize for this, but it's normally not like that at all. So, >> okay. So, typically it wouldn't have it. Well, I guess what I'm trying to get at if it's a holiday, we should make sure that we've got someone at least or if it
was contained, we probably it wouldn't be such an issue. It wouldn't be a concern. afraid if it's contained or we put something else around. They'll be dropping it everywhere or underneath and everything like that. So, >> I know but it's under the land development code that all restaurants,
all you know, resident, everyone's got to do it. So, we've got to set example and and do that, conceal it. >> Yeah, I mean that makes sense. It's just sort of how do you make sure that people know where it is now that you've sort of concealed it. So, it's a communication issue. It's a planning issue. So,
there's probably lots of letter to the Moringfield residents letting them know that it would >> I mean that's something we can push out through DACA and everything that that that won't that won't be a problem. It's just finding the best place where that is because all here is parking spots and stuff like that. Um
>> yeah, >> so I I'm short on room, you know, and and and and if I I mean I can't put it anywhere else because that's going to be closer. I can't go beyond the parking lot because
then we're closer to the water, right? And then I got nervous Nelly's right there and stuff. So, I'm kind of I don't have there's something I'll I'll bring it up and uh we'll talk to the different departments and I'll see what better option we can we can come up with.
>> What about a dumpster? Like a smaller dumpster that is also because we're supposed to bag shouldn't be overflowing. Critters can get to a birds and drag the and they attract rats and things like that. So maybe a dumpster that has um a lid, you know, a
closed automatic lid that you can >> That's something Yeah, that's something I'll ask about, something we might have to rent. Um so >> and Jennifer, if you've seen some other areas that you know, you have some ideas about fencing or enclosure or other things if you want to just you know,
give us some ideas about that that are obviously we want to make it we can't take a lot of >> the least expensive. I um saw um a a restaurant that is a a trailer and they put bushes and um in pots
around it just to conceal. So it's, you know, it's not something permanent, but it's something that you can put that looks a little bit nicer. That was one of my ideas. >> You just have to worry about the wind then knocking over the bushes. I There's a lot of variables. Yeah, that's why I was thinking if the if the trailer is
there, maybe put them back there and then just have something >> just >> so it's it's not ugly to look at or or the critters, you know, that critters could still get in that though. So, I I think a dumpster would >> would cure that issue. Um,
manity sign. So, if you're looking at the picture, you can see uh a sign that is right behind the receptacles, the garbage cans. There is a manatee sign and I believe like a some uh other information on maybe boating and and
moringfield on the other side. I just didn't get a picture of that side but and it's on the fence. I would like to see my wish list is more manatee awareness signs and they come smaller. Uh they are free and you can get them
through FWC. I have a few in my garage, but uh they are uh they'll send them to you and then you just mount them around the area. And I notice a lot of um of like u what is fish tail? They have them
all over the place. And I think, you know, the more the marrier. Of course, you don't want them just lined up, but maybe one at each corner would be nice. And I'm happy to order them. I get stuff from FWC all the time, but >> Okay. whatever you want. >> No, no, we can definitely put up uh manity signs. We are in the process of
getting um more signs for that for that dinghy dock. Uh we're going to be putting up um um uh um no >> awake, >> no overnight dockage. Um yes, we have no
wake, but no wakes on the by the bridge and stuff like that. So, um but also engine down and um engines down on the dinghy dock and um are no fishing signs as well.
I feel like I'm missing one, but then uh my last item was just to let you all know that um I have participated with the coastal uh cleaning um uh down at the beach. We had it down, keep county beautiful, had it down at Tuna
Skin and at the elementary school and it was a great success. But I wanted to share with you some of the feedback that I received from um from a lot of the groups that came from off island. And unfortunately, it's kind of sad. It's
good and sad, sweet and sad at the same time. They said there wasn't a lot of garbage on the beach. Well, we don't have a lot of people right now on our beaches, so that makes sense. So they went off and went up and down the streets to pick up garbage. And boy was there a lot of garbage on our side
streets, our sidewalks, on a sparrow boulevard, in front of restaurants. Um, but particularly most people when they would come back, they would tell me it looks like a lot of the garbage is coming from construction sites. And the thing is is when it's coming from construction sites, we have wind. that
garbage blows onto the sidewalks, onto the streets, and then we have a big rainfall and all that ends up in our water system. And uh so I I'm just I'm concerned a little bit about uh the you
know, how garbage is being disposed of uh and handled on this island. And there's a lot of it. And uh I just wanted to express that to you all and maybe you know talk to your neighbors and I I'd like to actually see contra
developers and contractors like they put the outhouses or what are they not outouses but >> kaos >> you know to go to the restroom they're supposed to be on construction sites that they also um have a dumpster now they have dumpsters but they can't use
it for garbage like food waste and things like that. So, a regular garbage can would help. And I guess I'm really directing that towards our councilmen that we look into that to see how that's handled.
>> So, just so I'm clear, and I think I am, this is really from an enforcement standpoint, Jennifer, you're looking to step up enforcement in these particular areas. >> Enforcement or maybe a lot of maybe it's not required when you go onto a lot to start a development. um that uh garbage
shouldn't just be tossed on the ground, but should be put into a garbage can. And maybe they don't have garbage cans or required by permit or by anything to have a garbage can on site for their personal use. not not, you know,
construction debris, but actual garbage for cigarette butts and food containers and water bottles, which are the >> I I'm no expert, but but this this this from everything I have seen since the storm, this comes down to good
contractor versus bad contractor, but that's an enforcement issue. So, your your point is well taken. Yeah. >> Thank you. And I think that is all I have. >> Okay. I will I will say yes, there probably isn't too much trash on the beach. I know I keep a one and a half mile stretch clean every morning and you
know, you never know what you're going to find. Depends on what the storm brings up, but I mean, no big things. Well, not too many big things lately. We found computers, um, like pieces of computer, uh, lots of, uh, stuff from houses like, uh, racks, uh, drying racks
and tons of, but a lot of construction debris like pipes and plastic things everywhere. >> Yeah. And you're talking about on the streets, not the beach, >> right? Well, they No, not on Well, I have seen it on the beach, but no, particularly I've been noticing more and more on our streets, on our side streets
and water bottles, and it's really an it's a big uptake. So much so that we had people come up and one lady said, "Do you live here?" And I said, "Yes." And she goes, "How do you feel living in filth?" I mean, I was like, well, we really try here on this island to do our
best. But >> if she'd been here the first six months after the storm, then I think she might have if you go up and down the streets, it's really there's a big uptake. I've I've noticed. So, I just wanted to express that to my committee today. And that's all I have. Thank you. >> Okay. You're welcome.
>> Go, Sam. >> I have a comment on the trash just real quick. Um, I like that they're actually using the cans. That's pretty good. But I do see something really disturbing that maybe Curtis could help with and maybe the vice mayor could take to council.
I notice in the recycle bin, this is driving me crazy. Everyone in my neighborhood does it. When they see a plastic bag with any recycle, >> they'll take that whole truck and they'll dump it in the dump. They won't even recycle it because it gets caught in the machines. So maybe we could have
a little signage. I think there might be one already on the top of that. Um, but >> recycle, you cannot put things in in a plastic bag or it messes up the machine or they just take it right to the dump. And that's something maybe council could
try to get out also because I see it in my neighborhood every week. People put plastic garbage cans with their recycle stuff in it. The truck will not even take that to the recycle place. We could educate on that. >> We've got a good contact with waste management. Uh, and I'll have the town
manager relay that concern to waste management as well to see if they have additional signage. >> Yeah. And find out what the actual, you know, rule is that they that they recommend. >> It usually tells you what things you can put in. >> Well, it says right on there, recycle. Yes. >> On the can that has plastic bags.
>> You see in the picture, >> right? But but that has plastic bags in it, right? And that's that will that will not be recycled. That will be taken to the dump. Mhm. And to your and to your point, that's another reason that this is on town property and we want to,
you know, always lead by example and, you know, if we have our businesses having to conceal, our residents are concealing the garbage, everyone's concealing, but we're not. It just it's, you know, it just doesn't look good. >> And it's a little easier for residents
once they get educated. However, people that are out on their boat, you know, they don't just bring loose things. So, if they brought them in a in a plastic bag, if they would dump them and then put the plastic bag in the in the regular trash. I'm not sure what the signage would be on that, but that would just make it more easy for the uh
recycle people. >> Vice Chair, I I was curious to Does the Morningfield go and actually provide a service that picks up garbage from the boats? >> Because then we could >> No, we do not. Because if we did that, if we offered that service, if it was
plausible, then we could Okay. Well, we can do anything. We can do anything. >> Room on your pump out. >> Well, for a fee. >> For a fee. >> Yeah. I'm only I'm only allowed to use
the pumpout boats strictly for pumpouts um under under the grant. So, um that's where I'm at with that. So, >> just a thought. Okay. All right. That was a lot of member items. Um,
I know we wanted to talk a little bit about roles and responsibilities. I sent out this a few different times. I don't know if everybody's had a chance to look at it. Um, I might just make a few comments and see if y'all are in
favor of this, but if you have the document, um, I mean, I I I think on the first page, our purpose is the Anchorage Advisory Committee was established to advise staff and the town council on all issues pertaining to the town's public moing field. Now, I don't know if we
want to expand that and talk about, you know, navigational waterways, including the canals and the channels. Because in my mind our purview is is navigationally related
thoughts. >> No, I agree. I agree for sure. So, um >> I don't >> Okay. Um if you go to page five. That's when I kind of broke out
the different responsibilities based on what the ordinance said. And I think a lot of the things that were in that original ordinance are not necessarily relevant anymore. Uh you know, we prepare and submit the Matangis harbor management plan, submit to town council
proposed operating budget. I don't think those two things really pertain. What I do think is pertinent is review proposals for any changes to the field and facilities. Evaluate conditions and proposals pertaining to the waters of
FMB and I might say navigational waters. >> Do those sound reasonable? >> The waters of the waters of the FMB are defined as a thousand feet from the shore. So uh
waters that is already in the term uh as it was uh >> okay >> so I I don't know whether we need to add to it because that might confuse it. >> So you're saying Ted that when we say waters of Fort Myers Beach that really
includes the canals and channels because that is within that 1000 ft. That's my understanding, but it may need to be that may be correct or not. >> Say that one more time.
>> Defining the uh waters of Fort Myers Beach as the thousand ft the demarcation. Are the canals also the waters of Fort Myers Beach? >> Yes, they are. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. So, we don't need to
say navigational. We can just say waters. >> Yes, that's fine. I mean I mean the canals are part of navigation for the island. I mean that's the whole reason why you want the dredging, right? So they can be navigable and stuff like
that. But um but they fall under the realm and the territory of Fort Myers Beach. So um yeah, if you want to say waters is fine, that that should be that should be adequate. >> Okay. under the section of provide
feedback and recommendations. Um I would like to consider you know our opportunity to report derelict vessels, other water hazards to the harbor master, participate in planning sessions to develop marketing plans, facility enhancement plans, investigation into
alternate facility locations. To me that sort of takes the place of uh reviewing the performance of the harbor master annually. Not really in our purview. Uh it was in the charter, pardon me, it was it was in the charter that we do so
>> and having that on there continues the connection between the committee and the harbor master. >> Okay. >> It makes the committee him part of the committee and this harbor master no problem. Who
knows about future harbor masters? And it's I would like to see that stay in because it gives us a reason to make a report. Uh admittedly we haven't done much of that but it gives us the opportunity to report to council and I
think it draws the harbor master and the committee together and I' I'd sort of like to stay stand. >> Do you think review performance is the right word? I mean, if you think about it from an HR perspective, we are not, you know, Curtis doesn't report to us.
We are not his his uh his leadership. So, how might we say that in a way that doesn'tote some sort of an HR management thing? >> Good point. And uh
somehow to get the um the present wording is >> review. So maybe it's assess or >> uh >> assess is good. >> Assess is good. >> Yeah,
>> that sounds good. >> What do you guys think? I mean, do you get where I'm going? I don't, you know, we don't have the purview of actually being his leader and >> right >> trading him. We can give Curtis some
suggestions, but to say that I'm going to >> give him an evaluation is >> not my job, >> right? He has supervisors, you know, the top one being the manager. We're an advisory committee. We're not a
evaluation committee. >> Yeah. So, what about provide feedback on? >> Is that better than assess or you like assess? I sort of like assess, but how do you feel about the uh how does Curtis
feel about uh the working together with this committee? Uh is it useful that we're encouraging you and and and saying what you're doing good as well as uh the
times when we might disagree? It just seems like to me we we need a connection directly with you. What what's your feeling? >> Um, no. I mean, I feel that, you know, I appreciate all your all your feedback
and everything. I think everything that gets brought up is great. I I you know, I try to accommodate the feedback that I get from y'all as best as I can. So, um, but, um, you know, I like I like the
feedback from y'all. Um, I need your your advice on things and everything like that. Um, just kind of what I mentioned in my report today on certain things. So, um, and um, I'm kind of on the along the lines with Ron. This is an
advisory committee. So it's it's like so I kind of you know pitch the ideas and things that I have or issues that I have in the morning field and y'all kind of you know you know advise me and steer me in the right in the right direction and you
know what y'all think of how I should go about certain things and attack and attack certain things. So, um, that's kind of the way, uh, I see this going in the relationship. And I, I mean, I feel like this committee has already has already
helped me out tremendously, um, through my, you know, first year and a half here. So, >> if I could just add one comment, um, we we've had this debate at Cellcap about moundhouse. We had a professional uh uh museum analyst come in and he's working
on an additional certification for the moundhouse and he he was uh I think in collaboration with the staff was pushing back on the cellc cab advisory committee uh you know having as much input in the
day-to-day operations of of of the moundhouse as they did. And uh I push back on that because as a as a member of the town council, I think we're unique as a committee just like CECAB is unique that we're actually managing not managing but overseeing the management
of of a town asset and it's different than MURF. Uh MURF has its own charge, but they're not overseeing a specific asset. And I think the town council has enough on its plate particularly as a part-time entity that that I'll just I think I could speak for my colleagues.
We welcome the fact that we don't get into the minutia of the Anchorage uh advisory committee and the more the management of the Moringfield. We have great people on the committees just as we do on CellCAB. And CellC is heavily involved in the day-to-day operations,
not day-to-day, but but at least overseeing and we've got people on that committee that have been here for been on that committee for 15 20 years. We're were we're were part of the original founding of the Moundhouse. They know more about the moundhouse than anybody on the council does. And I think we've got some similar institutional knowledge
here on this committee. And I think the the the council welcomes a little bit more uh invasive uh work from committees that are actually managing. Uh and I think probably Borab has a similar role with Bay Oaks. I think it's just a little bit different
than other advisory committees like public safety and MURF. Not that one's better, just they're just a little different because one has is actually managing an asset. And given that the the challenges particularly post Ian uh for Fort Myers Beach and this island, I
think the advisory committees have become even more important uh because there's only so much time in the day and to to to disseminate some of this work to the advisory committees is has been extremely helpful to the to the council and quite frankly probably to the town
staff. Um so so in that sense I'm not as worried about the uh the overstepping of advisory committees particularly postd as we might otherwise have been so just just something to ponder
thoughts gentlemen >> I'm not a gentleman but >> well I was getting to you I was doing that side >> we've had this discussion one other time because I understand that uh for example, Moringfield and and uh and
Cellcap actually have um assets that generate income to come into the town. But uh I do believe that MURF also has a great deal of uh uh responsibility to
the town's assets such as our parks and our beaches and our waterways and things like that. But I do understand what you're saying and uh that's it. >> Please yeah don't misunder I don't mean to diminish anything else. I just just a little unique and different. Yeah. And I
think particularly postan in the bizarro world in which we're all living the more weight that these advisory committees can pick up uh at least from the council's perspective is welcome. Sometimes you'd think councils would be protective and jurisdictional and want nobody want to take their authority or
their infringe in their space. It's quite frankly it's the opposite. We welcome the input of these advisory committees and and and and and the heavy lifting that they're doing again postd >> and what I understand what I've learned over the years being a part of the
committees is that uh we are advisory to town council and town council then uh either you know takes our suggestions or takes uh our advisement and then directs it to the town manager and then it's the town manager's responsibility to then
take that information uh from the town council and disperse it to uh the staff members. That's my understanding. >> Yeah, I mean that's fair. >> Yeah. >> And then you know the our liaison uh depending on the different uh committee
come in and listen to us and we try and work with them. That's my understanding. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, I have a hard stop at 10:30, so I'm And I know Jennifer, you needed to excuse yourself now. So, thank you very
much. Um, so I'm gonna try and wrap some things up here. What I will suggest is I will take what we talked about here today. And mostly it was me saying, "Hey, what do you think?" But I'll put it into a a recommendation of how about this and then here's the other stuff that I left out. Do we need any of that
stuff? And then we can talk about it at our next meeting. You can you can ponder it. So, I'll do a recap like I typically do of the information we discussed and we can go from there. >> I think that's great. I think at some point, Madam Chair, uh we'll probably need to get the town
attorney involved in helping you with some drafting language. And also, I don't know, at some point, >> you know, I've people think this is there's a turf battle between us and Murf and there really isn't. We're just trying to delineate who does what. So, it's just it's just clear for everybody.
I don't really care who's gets what turf. I just I think to your point, I think you're trying to clarify what that turf is so we can all do our jobs better. >> And we know there's overlap. Absolutely. There's overlap. We all we don't talk about it. I mean, we care about the environment, but they're more set up to,
you know, understand more about the, you know, implications of certain things, but we also care about dredging and we care about navigation and, you know, we have our own purview, but there's this little, it's a ven diagram. There's a little overlap in the middle. So once we get the just procedurally then once we
get I I I I I welcome you drafting some language and then running it by uh us and the town I I think at some point there needs to be coordination with MURF because I don't think there's any other committees that we have that type of overlap with and if everybody can just sing Kubaya and we can get this thing
codified and move on with our lives and but I do think it's helpful because I think there is some confusion as to who does what. >> Right. >> Yeah. And I know you need the information for the ordinance because you're updating your ordinance. So, this will be part of something that actually replaces or amends what we've had
before. >> Correct. Correct. Or just or just add two. Right. Um um but yeah, if you want to um you know, I like everything that you put together here, but if you want to add the section that we want to add >> Yep.
>> to it. And then um um I can um um I can let Chad look at it as well to make sure it doesn't step overstep any boundaries with Murf and you know you know maybe he can bring it up in one of one of one of his meetings get approval and then um I
can push it to the to the uh um town town attorney and get it approved and we can get it implemented into the ordinance. >> Do you have a timeline >> that you need it by? I do not have a timeline right now, but I would like to move on this a little,
you know, let's >> let's don't take too too long on it, but you know, >> yeah, I'll draft something. We'll talk about it at the next meeting and uh, you know, then we'll have it out of our hands and into your hands. >> Okay. >> Okay, >> that sounds great.
>> All right, public comment. I see nothing unless Patty, you want to say something else? We enjoy you. I'm just here to >> Okay. Um, next meeting's agenda. We had talked about perhaps doing a field trip on October 27th. Is that still your plan?
>> Um, >> okay. >> Yes, it is. It is. That's something we can move towards. Um, I'll get I'll I'll work with everybody with the town. The only thing I got to make sure is that we are um just uh review everything with
the um public information officer, make sure we are in order and set up. >> Okay. >> Um to do that because I think for us to do a field trip, we got to make sure that we we have all of our ducks in a row and we are legally because we this
might have to be videotaped and all that. So, just got to make sure that we can do all that and facilitate that for this whole thing. So, >> instead of the meeting or after >> Well, what I'm wondering is would we convene for maybe like a quick halfhour meeting to go through some of the little business like reviewing the roles and
responsibilities, have that conversation and then >> and then for the rest of the day, we could do some trips. We could even I might have to split split it up. I might have to do two two different trips at a time just just because of
>> Can I just add u madam chair on October 27th I will be out of town. >> Okay. >> I could join a meeting remotely but I would not be able to do a field trip type thing. >> I I have a I have a similar challenge as well, Madam Chair, but but but I have
done the boat trip already, so I'm happy to yield my seat. Yeah. >> All right. Well, we can look we can also look at another date. So, does anybody else have trouble with October 27th? >> First and foremost, we have to make sure that it's
>> allowable. Right. Right. Because we were told that only town employees were allowed on the boats >> legally. So, we have to check. >> No, that's what I that's why I said at the beginning I said I got to make sure that we are we we are good to facilitate that. But I have asked about it.
something that we that I was told that we could do. >> Okay. >> Um but we just got to get into the details with it and that's something I can put together. So that's that's fine. And if anything comes up that's going to prohibit us from doing this, I will I will be sure to email everybody
informing informing everybody of the change. Okay. >> Could I just request then if we if we do the field trip portion that we do it on a on a different date? >> Okay. So, do a regular meeting on the 27th and then we'll try to find an alternate date for the field trip. Maybe
>> if we could do that, that'd be great. I'm just unfortunately going to be out of town and I can I can join, you know, the meeting, but I obviously can't do a field trip unless someone carried me around on their phone or FaceTime the whole time. >> That'll probably be best that we do a
little meeting and then >> we can split up, do it a different day, and you know, we can conjoin and go down there. >> Okay. So, we'll figure we'll figure it out. We'll send out some information to see, >> you know, what dates would work for your crew and what dates work for us, alternate dates. And
>> but if anything, if I can't get y'all out on the boat and that kind of thing, I can show you around the facility. There's things I can explain more more more to y'all so we're kind of on the same page and have an overall understanding of the Moringfield more
more as a whole. You know, >> that's just that's kind of my goal. You know what I mean? Could I also but just to suggest um given the ram well we obviously have the employee issue but but aside from that
given the sunshine potential sunshine issues um given the and given the the the public relations background and expertise of our chair. Uh maybe the chair goes out with Curtis and Nicole and films that and then does a little
kind of an update as to where we all are as a mering field and kind of gives a kind of an overview of what our facilities are. >> That might be uh I can just say for my own experience that would be well received by the public. Okay. And if if if Nicole could post that to having the chair of the committee as be part of
that, there wouldn't be any sunshine issues >> or it's something we could maybe see if she can post during our next during one of the the following meeting or you know after we conduct that so >> everybody can see. And then >> I'd like to see that sooner as we go into season. I'd rather see that sooner
rather than later, but it might be a good preamble to the whole group going out as well. Maybe we could do something similar because Austin's video from a couple years ago was very popular topics. That was really good. >> But I think Evan Chris do that as a as a
sort of a this not only the chair but somebody who will ask a lot of questions who's who's you know doesn't have that voter background. I think just like I didn't I asked a lot of questions and and the harbor master was very helpful and just as Curtis will be and I think it it would be very well received by the
public. I have a suggestion for this. >> Sure. >> He I don't know. First, we got to figure out who's allowed to go, >> right? >> And committees may be accepted, but if you want video, I would think Beach Talk Radio would be very interested in
something like this. >> That's another good idea. I mean, what what what happened with me was >> followed by a lot. >> Yeah. What happened with me was we did it for the town. We we had this key questions with key staffers show that I created after the storm and I would do that with the town and under the town's
opices and we would get maybe 500 hits at the town and then Ed would repost it and then we'd get more like five to 10,000 hits as a result of Ed posting it. So to have the town do it and then have Ed repost it would be phenomenal to your point, Ron. Yep.
>> Yep. Okay. Okay. Well, however it works, I mean, I hate for, you know, everybody not to be able to see everything, but, you know, >> it might be a good way to start the process. >> Yeah, it could start the process. And then maybe you could set up, and I hate to use all of Curtis's time, but maybe
there can be individual appointments of, "Hey, Curtis, can you just show me the facilities? Can you show me the dinghyd dock?" And explain some things. And I mean, you all are Boers. I'm not a boater, so you've been out in the morning field probably a lot more than I have. I've been through it a couple
times, so maybe maybe it's just me who needs to see everything, but I appreciate that. So, next meeting we'll have a regular meeting. We'll be figuring out the whole field trip, what we do. We'll talk about roles and responsibilities.
Um, we'll maybe talk about the new boat because the new boat will be >> Yes. Yes. Correct. We're we're moving along just just fine on that. So, everything's everything's coming along. Um the hole is done and they will be mounting the engine here shortly, but
then doing all the rigging and wiring and all that stuff. So um as far as I know, we are still on schedule for the end of October. >> Okay. >> Super. >> And Chris, maybe you can organize of your thoughts for the November meeting
where you approach uh council on the cruisers appreciation day. >> Yes, exactly. Yep. Um, I do want to go to that first meeting in November and talk about, you know, just make sure that it's on their get kind of the approval to do it uh with sort of the
basic plan that we had before. We know that we have some seed money. We're ready to go. Uh, and we've got the date secured on everybody's calendar, so we should be good. Okay. Patty, you have a question?
I used to do special events. So if you need any help with that, I can help you on my end. Um because I did special events for probably eight years. That would be lovely. I used to do that all the time, didn't I? See >> Patty did the whole thing. >> Okay.
>> I signed my name. >> One last thing. Uh I know I believe that Ed and I have put in um our request to be on the committee for another couple of years. that will come to council in first meeting in October.
>> It comes uh October >> second >> six. >> Oh, >> October 6th. >> October 6. Okay. >> I did not reapply. Uh but I still want to assist. >> Okay. >> When you know the crews are
I'm here to help, but uh I have some things going on and uh I So, I didn't apply. >> Well, thank you very much for being part of the committee. >> No, I learned a lot. >> We will miss you. >> It's No, you won't. >> Yes, we will.
>> But no, thank you. You know, I've learned a lot and I want to continue to learn, but not as an official. >> Okay, >> Kristen, you're on to the agenda. The >> after the appointments, the election of officers. >> Yep. Okay. Okay.
Okay. We'll do. All right. Anything else? >> Would somebody like to make a motion to adjurnn the meeting? >> Ju just one quick thing. >> Yes, John. >> Are we talking um 9:00 a.m. on the 27th? >> Yes. >> Usual. >> Thank you. >> And we'll make sure we get you the
information, Ed, so that you're able to zoom in from wherever you are. Anyone? Motion. >> Motion. >> I'll second. >> All right. All in favor? I >> I All right, we are adjourned at 10:33. Thanks everybody.
>> By three minutes.