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to order. The New Jersey o open public meetings law was enacted to ensure the right of the public to have advanced notice of and to attend the meetings of public bodies at which any business affecting their interest is discussed or acted upon. In accordance with the provisions of this act, the Frankfurt Township Board of Education has caused

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advanced notice of this meeting and general agenda to be posted to the official notices page on the district website. There's the district website, district broadcasts, and district social media, as well as district and municipal offices on May 13th, 2020. May 13th,

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2026. This meeting may be recorded for subsequent public broadcast. Please rise for the pledge. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We'll have a quick roll call tonight. Charlene >> here, >> Brienne >> here, >> Chris >> here, >> Jesse >> here, >> Mandy, >> the rest are absent.

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>> Okay, so we had some students of the marking period for the fourth marking period. Kindergarten, we had Serella. She's a very prominent figure, isn't she? Like a little mayor. She's so cute. >> Um, first grade, Harley Babcock. Second

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grade, Fred. Fred Kavitt. Third grade, Torren Peterson. Fourth grade, Eile Wagner. Fifth grade, Otto Schnobble. Sixth grade grade, Avery Gels. Seventh grade, Cassidy Kilpatrick. Oh, eighth grade, Lexi Barbagallo. Very cool.

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>> There's John. >> Hey, John. John's here, too. >> Welcome. >> Um, staff member of the month was nominated by Angela Angela Schnobble, and it is Sarah Bachmann. She's not able to attend, but we will um give her the recognition and the gift card.

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um superintendent and principal section. >> All right. So, I just wanted to touch on a few uh highlights. There's many many highlights, but just touch on a few since our last meeting in early May. Uh we had a great community day. Um I think I feel like all the feedback was very

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positive. Those uh that attended, hopefully you thoroughly enjoyed yourself. It was nice to see everything come to fruition and come together with all that hard work, you know, and planning. um you know, thank you to everybody in the community, of course,

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our PTA, um that helped out in a variety of different ways. So, thank thank you to our community for making it such a special day. Um we've had some great, you know, concerts, middle school concerts. Um we had a great kindergarten picnic recently. Uh we had our Advex

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presentation. We also had our distinguished scholars program uh showcase recently. Um, of course, our middle school and elementary field days as always are were a huge uh success. Again, thank you to all the

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parents, volunteers, PTA um for everything that, you know, they continue to do for, you know, our great school and giving all of our kids such a great um experience. Uh we also uh wanted to discuss briefly the um athletics and

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uniforms um and funding. it was, you know, brought to our attention that um, you know, recently the track and field uh, uniforms are not in the best shape possible. I know a while ago we kind of discussed basketball uniforms. So maybe

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just like a board discussion. Um it kind of goes, you know, with that and also our um you know, sponsorship, you know, policy if we're looking to improve upon our, you know, uniforms, um you know,

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for our student athletes. Um also, uh kind of wanted to mention our uh you'll see on the agenda the school, uh discipline, um you know, code of conduct. Um I'll let Mr. Sylvester kind of discuss that a little further.

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>> So, um we have been updating our handbook um with a number of certain things just kind of making sure that what we are practicing, we're preaching um and that our families are aware of of what is our handbook and our code of

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conduct. Um and that has been updated. Um, and probably the biggest update, uh, was the addition of a progressive discipline plan. Um, and this is a plan that was sent out, and it really just gives everybody a road map to any

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potential issues that may arise. Um there's categories like unexcused absences and parties, dress code violations, cell phone violations, cheating and plagiarism, uncooperative, non-compliant, disorderly or disruptive behavior, aggressive or injurious

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behaviors, use of possessions, intoxicants and paraphernalia, uh seriously dangerous or violent behaviors, theft and destruction of property. And each category has a level one, level two, level three, level four,

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level five. Um, so that way we can kind of chart and go off of something a little bit more concrete. So when students have any type of you know disciplinary problems we are following some sort of a structure and it doesn't

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seem like it's just kind of shooting off the hip and uh us kind of making a decision out of thin air. Um you'll see things like let me pull one up for you. Um,

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so just for example, right, like a level one, you might have a minor disruption or a refusal in class. The response should be a misdirection. The consequence is a warning. Level two is a repeated disruption, parent notification, lunch and/or recess

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detention. Level three, ongoing disorderly behavior, administrator referral, after school detention. Level four, pattern of non-compliance. a behavior plan is implemented with the potential for multiple afterchool detentions or an inschool suspension.

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Level five, persistent refusal, administrative action, inschool or out of school suspension. And then it also has underneath that some notes. Um, and includes inappropriate or disrespectful language and gestures. Restorative conversations may be used at any level.

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Staff will use consistent expectations and redirections. Loss of privileges may accompany consequences. And then there's special education protections apply when applicable. And then there's always the a caveat of um documentation is required

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for levels two to five. So we're always ensuring we're communicating with families once it gets to a certain level. Uh like I said, and then all disciplinary actions are subject to to administrative discretion. there's obviously going to be certain instances

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that you know we have to look at the entirety of the context of the event. Um so it gives us some leeway but also a clear path of like okay this happened going to here going across to here this was the action this was the consequence

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and this was this is the plan that we need to follow so that way we're you know trying to be as fair and as equitable as possible. >> Thank you. Motion to open. Motion to open public. Who wants to second?

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This is my first time. I'm official now. >> Mr. Zachary, do you have anything to say? >> Sure, I do. >> You want a quick? >> It's quick, isn't it? I just really would like to thank um Dave Sylvester for his leadership with community day.

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It was awesome. He he spent a lot of time organizing doing everything and I really you know thought he led it well. Uh it was so wellreceived in the community. Older people that had been here for years and people that graduated 30 40 years ago came back and they

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really enjoyed it. So thank you Dave for all your work with that. I know it was wasn't easy. It was a lot >> team effort. >> Okay. But >> I take the win. >> No, it was it was a team effort, but you were the leader there. So, we appreciate

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that. >> I'd also like to thank the custodial staff for and Dave on this as well, too, for getting pickle ball courts. Um they he they were able to line the the um black top out back by the old tennis courts. And so, we can at least have our

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pickle ball tournament this year in fifth grade. not the same as a tennis tournament and I don't have any pickle ball or rackets to give them as money. So, they might still get a tennis racket since we have about 500 of them in the class to give out. So, uh but I do thank them for for lining them. That that

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definitely a help. And I'd also like to thank the PTA and all the parents that volunteered for field day. It was great. The PTA always they're incredible. They come through with the food. They they did they source themselves with do themselves with the oranges and the watermelon and the kids have a great day

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and thanks to all the parents because without them we couldn't do it and thank you for all that you volunteered for >> me. You volunteered both days. >> And thank you Mrs. Ecker for the uh the fun fifth grade camping trip.

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>> Oh, >> you did a very good job with that. My son loved it. >> Yeah, it was a great They were This group was awesome. They did an awesome job and it was great. I'm hoping we still get back too nice. But I won't say anything about that. That's probably coming with graduation here at the

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school. That'll >> I know in years from now. >> Thank you. Anyone else for public comment? >> Good. >> Motion to close. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second.

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>> Jesse Chris. Okay. And we have Kelly Mitchell here from NJSBA to review our self-evaluation. >> Yes. Hi everybody. Thanks for having me in. Thanks for your hard work. I I know that um the board self-evaluation is not

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the most fun thing to do, but um because we do it, we were able to uh derive our board goals from it. So, we're just going to go over it um briefly and just have a discussion on some of the areas of growth that you indicated because

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that'll help uh decide what your board goals will be for this year. Uh so, you could see here that you have a colored chart um and that kind of spells out exactly uh your thought process. So, anything in yellow is that area of

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growth. So you see there in the category of vision, mission and goals. Um there was 29% of you felt that that was an area of growth. So we'll just chat about that uh real quickly. And one of the items you had said um which scored a

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2.8. So we say anything below a three that we need to uh possibly work on. One of them was uh revisit, reaffirm and revise our vision, mission and goals regularly to ensure consistent purpose.

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So um anybody can can speak on that but there were some comments about uh you know reconnecting with your vision and mission. I don't know that we have >> we don't have >> I don't think we made like a formal statement right like we did one one year

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but we didn't I don't think we did this year make like a formal >> mission a good thing to do on our way >> yeah so um that could actually be a board goal that you can do a workshop um and some of my boards do it very

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differently so sometimes if they want a community engagement piece they invite the community to come in um and I do uh a presentation on mission mission and vision and uh we do um breakout uh groups and the community weighs in on

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what they think the mission and vision of the district looks like. Once we take all that data, I give a report to you and then you come up with a word smithing of the mission and vision. That that's a way to do it or the board can

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just uh collectively do a workshop. I can facilitate that for you if you'd like and we can come up with a mission and vision. >> Is it typical? Sorry. Is it typical to have like a separate board mission that's kind of separate from the district? I mean, not different

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necessarily, but just >> No, it's usually reflective of the district. >> Oh, we do have one. >> Okay. >> We just didn't make it. I don't make it up. >> So, do you do you reflect on it often for as a district? No. >> Yes.

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>> As a district? Yes, that's me. >> I don't know what to say. Okay. >> I don't think we ever >> read it as a board and like dove into it. So, I do agree with the 2.8 here and needs >> a yellow.

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>> So, it might be just something that you want to uh >> refresh. I don't know when the last time you did that. Um but that is something. Uh and then uh there was a lot of discussion in this uh category that you really wanted to make sure that you had

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um distinct board goals versus district goals because I saw in your uh in the back sheet of this overview is your board goals that you put down. Um but they're really it seems more like

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district goals. Uh if you see on this on the overview sheet it's >> what is an example of a board goal Kelly? >> Yeah. So a board goal is based on like governance like things that you want to do. Let's say you want to become a certified board. That would be a board goal. Uh let's say you want to um you

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know advance uh student achievement through some type of training. Uh that areas that you were looking to do to just so that the board can educate themselves collectively together. that would be a board goal. Um those type of things, you know, board retreat every

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year, something like that. So, anything to do with the board governance is a board goal. Then district goals are different. District goals, you come together as a board with the administration and uh collectively talk about the direction of the district and

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those would be district goals. So when when uh it was put down here as board goals strengthen the um integration of atrisisk students I mean the board wouldn't have any ability >> right because we're just here to make sure the school runs well not to run

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>> so this was this would be that you were very involved in the daytoday which we know as board members we can't be so that goal really is a district goal not a board goal so um I think that understanding what that looks like the differentiation board goal is

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differentiating between >> that that might be one of your >> step one. >> So um so that's that's uh what we're here today to talk about because in your board self-evaluation you you speak very

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specifically about not understanding if you have goals for yourselves as a board as a team. that could have been my comment, >> you know. So, um, so again, so that would be something, uh, if you wanted to

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refresh the mission and vision and make sure that the the board is mindful of that as they work along the year, the school year, that might be something that you want to do as a board goal. Um, sometimes it's a community event where uh, you refresh it uh, with community

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engagement. But um that was the those were some of the comments throughout the mission and vision and and goals section um to make sure that you're making decisions um and elevate policy that's reflective of the community too. That

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was something that uh that there was a comment on that. Um and then we move on to policy. policy you did quite well with. Um some of the comments for areas of growth with policy was that uh how do you get community um engagement on that

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piece like how do you understand what the aspirations are of the state all stakeholders when you're approving and updating policies. So that was something that uh you know we collectively uh spoke about something that um we wanted

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to understand that mechanism and then uh accountability for student achievement. Again you did quite well with that. There was really um no distinct areas of growth indicators on that one. Um you seem to be working very

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very hard and you credit the superintendent for working um very very hard on on student achievement. So that's always top of mind. Um governance, team relations, and accountability. Um some of those scores were a little bit low. Uh participates

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in board training and retreats to build relationships and learning together. That was a 2.7. So that that might be a board >> because we don't do that. Yeah, that should be a zero point. >> Well, you gave yourself some credit. Uh three people put exemplary. So like some

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three people feel that you you do do that. Um but uh >> love those people. >> Those people are very you know positive. So >> the bottom of this page. >> Um and then uh another area of growth

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that's uh right at a three would be adopt um explicit goals for the board itself distinct from the district goals to be accountable on your accomplishments as a board. Uh so that that was the comments there.

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The other um was there was a comment about becoming a certified board. That might be something you you're up to six credits. So that might be something I feel like doing. Some of you might not, but it does have to be collective as team. Uh and then um there was a couple

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of comments just about uh you know constantly about trainings and new board orientation that there really isn't any new board member orientation from the NJSBC but I feel like >> there is not new board orientation ever

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since I've been on there. >> So that could be that could be a board goal where you say you know what we're going to do a new board member handbook. I can give you examples of that and uh you know I don't know what committees are what but uh you know somebody that like if you have a governance committee

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could work on that you can have an ad hoc committee work on uh you know new board member orientation because you're always going to have new board members come on um so a handbook would be really helpful. Uh some boards also do board norms, a board norms document that just

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talks about uh you know what the expectation of a board member is here in Frank. >> So that uh >> what is that called? >> It's called a board norms document and it's something that we do a workshop. I facilitate a workshop uh you know could

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be right at a board meeting and we talk about that. uh that also helps the new board members uh when they're coming on because they're given that document and they understand the expectation of uh board members on this board. >> I guess at our first like re board

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meeting you always come and do our ethics training. >> Um so that's like a introduction into >> new board member orientation. >> How much is how long is the board norms apart? Could we do like both of those things or is it

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>> in the same day? Yeah. Is it too much? >> No, it's it's not too much. You know, >> it may be too much for me. >> I mean, >> you lo like I'm lo any in anything, even at work, a half an hour, I'm done. Like I can't I can't like focus on it. So like if it's only going to be a half an

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hour, you might want to do it in two sessions. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then it counts for two. >> That's fine. Yeah. >> Well, would it Wait, would we not would we not get extra points if you >> would if you do two subject matters in one, you get two. >> Still get two one. we still give you the point. So, um, so there's a couple of

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goals in there that you can, uh, you know, make for yourself. The board norms document, the new board orientation, um, becoming a a certified board, uh, you know, there's >> there's a bunch of there there, but those are board goals, not district

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goals, right? Um, and then the next was the community leadership. It sounds like you had a great community day. That was that was wonderful. So, uh that that's helpful. Um and that you're really saying that there's a lot um that's going on with the communications

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committee that that's they're doing an excellent job. So, that's great that you have a committee for that um because you can just hand them over that type of work. So, that you just you're just saying that you basically want to continue that work with the um communications committee. I think that's

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one of our um goals is to get more information out to the community. We do have a board of ed section in our weekly newsletter that goes out to the community. Um I read it every week. I don't think people read it every week and when they do read it, they maybe

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just be scanning for pictures of their kids or like a highlight of their kids. The board of ed section isn't exactly like >> super fun to read most of the time. Um, and then I I know that um our communications committee has consider

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has went went to a workshop where they were talking about being able to post on social media on some kind of platform um more board information, but then it was also kind of wishy-washy on like how appropriate

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that is. >> Yeah, you know how I feel about that, >> right? Um, so I I just anything to do with board members going on social media as a board member. I really, you know, it can be a group. >> Yeah, >> I know it it really can be some type of

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ethical issue like and you and it could be very very innocent, >> but um, you know, if there was a back and forth and then it was perceived that somebody was speaking for the full board that didn't have authority to do that, >> it's just >> it's a little problematic with social media. How do other boards like get

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their information out? >> Yeah, so they um a newsletter is very popular. So you're doing that, but we have to be mindful too that um it's you know all the stakeholders. They're not they they might not have somebody in the school district and you know so we want to reach all the the taxpayers and

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stakeholders in the >> do mailers. >> Yeah. So you might have to do some type of things like that because not everybody has a child. If we had money for 73 cents to 5,500 households. >> Oh, no. We found $1,000. So, we have

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money. >> I don't think we have money for that. But, I mean, they, you know, we have to be mindful of that. So when we do any type of strategic planning um any type of mission and vision uh you know workshop things like that any kind of community events we make sure that we go

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out to you know all the stakeholders uh senior centers house of worship um the you know the town council all those people and make sure that we hit all the different facets because that's super important like Frankfurt um township to

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disseminate information. >> I don't think that the town council is going to do that on our behalf. >> They're not like flyers because that cost money, but like post things or share information like a website just link, you know.

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>> Well, I think for a couple hundred you can get like 1,500 flyers. >> I know. But every time we want to send a piece of information out then we're going to pay 73 cents or whatever a stamp is times 5,500 households in just Frankfurt. I don't even know what it is in Branchville. So, you're looking at,

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you know, and that's every quarter, >> every month or so. >> You know, we don't have that. >> Yeah. >> But, you know, email us for free. So, you could do like a campaign where you tell people that don't have kids in school, like if you want to get on our

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email list, we can email you out the newsletter. So that might be something that you want to get out into the community that, you know, we want to reach all stakeholders, >> you know. Yeah. So email might be a way to do that. >> But um the newsletters are really a big

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hit with a lot of different communities. So >> I feel like older people like that. >> They do. Yeah. >> I feel like I'm part of that category. >> I would like a piece of paper. >> Yeah. >> No, I mean I would email it out. Like email's free. So I would email it.

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>> Like my parents would read every word on >> and then if you want it on paper you can print it out. There you go. >> Solution for everyone. >> Okay. So um so that's where we are with the um the board goals. I I think that

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um we came up with a couple of them. Does anybody have any other thoughts on what your wants and needs are that you think that the team needs? This is very helpful. >> Yeah, I think I I figured it was a visual, right? >> Well, like with every board too, I guess

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like the turnover rate, right? So, um our longest standing board members, Kate, Adam, and then me and Caitlyn. Right. So, like as you're going through your governance training each year, you're learning a little bit more. Right.

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>> Right. So, like when you're a new board member, you only have governance one. You haven't done two, three, four yet. So like I think >> as the turnover happens too and new board members like probably a new new board member >> retention. >> What

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>> could a goal be retention to make that turnover less? >> You can make that goal but I am not running again. >> So I'm going to announce that I heard president >> three. What is this? Your third second? >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Well, this is a whole lot of fun. >> Well, this was interesting. But, uh, yeah. So, what I'll do is I'll type up um some sample uh goals and then some action plans to those goals and if

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it's something that you want to adopt, uh you can do that uh at your next public meeting and then just let me know. We could we could do a schedule of trainings, anything that you need. >> Thank you. You're welcome. >> Thank you very much for Thank you for doing this, guys. >> Yes.

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We direct a bunch of executive sessions. Mandy, before you go into executive, I was hoping I I have to go to another executive meeting tonight. So, is there any way I could do one say one thing? >> Absolutely not, Mrs. Eckert. The time is up. >> Sure, Mrs. Zack.

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>> All right. >> I'll veto Jesse. >> Because I just have to leave. I have a fair meeting. Um, I'm just going to hand out a letter. >> What? >> I know too much. I'm just going to hand out a letter that I can post in regard to the one-way busing that was approved

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at the last meeting. Um, I know you guys said you're going to work on it in the summer and I just wanted to make sure that all the questions I had and I think you have a few board members not here, right? >> I give them to you. And I just wanted to

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make sure that the concerns I had were addressed this summer because some of them are really legitimate and I won't go through it all because I just appreciate the time you're giving me, but I went through all that I could think of and put them on the front and back to make sure they were covered. Um,

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so and I just asked if I look forward to maybe discussing them further with the individually or with the board as a whole in the future before they go into effect in terms of the answers. So, thank you. I appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> I don't know. Is there any other schools

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in Sussex County that do one-way busing? >> There's some that do not. >> There are some that are doing it. Yeah. >> Who? Because I I' we've I just I'm just saying we've never had a school come to us like on field hockey or anything else that that doesn't get picked up like they have a bus to go back. So, I just

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was curious. >> I'll get back to you on that. >> Those are good powerpoints. >> Okay. Good brain turner. Well, the thing I said is just like I'll give you one example for for for example for I you got to go. I don't want to take

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>> one sees like like what happened? >> Yeah. I mean like there's little things like something as simple as well you just like said to me we'll just follow behind your car. Okay. My girls are getting on the field hockey bus. All the equipment's got to get on. I have to take attendance. Right. So I have to get on the bus to take attendance. And then

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we try to be in the front to leave before the other buses because if we get behind them then we get to the game late. So we pull out of here right away. Now I got to run back to get into my car by then the other like >> there's two coaches in every program. Correct. >> Correct. So one coach would have to be on that bus on the way there. The other

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would follow and it would be the responsibility of the other coach when they get done with the event to bring the other coach back to the school. So >> you and Mrs. case, one of you would choose to ride the bus and one of you would choose to drive. >> Okay.

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>> And then after field hockey, if you chose to drive, you're driving. So, >> it's like bowling. >> All right. How? Okay. All right. And then how does the equipment get back? >> Yeah. >> It would have to be taken back by the coaches. >> Do you know how much field hockey

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equipment we have? A lot. Okay. Then the other thing is like for ski club, we don't have that that option of like I I don't know like I I would park somewhere in east, you know, if you ever went to Mountain Creek, I'd be down in the public parking lot. My kids would be getting off the bus.

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>> And just remember that just because it's a club doesn't mean that we have to do it. So if it's too much of a problem, >> right? And I do realize there's such sports and things like that that like um for example like the the basketball tournament or maybe the track if there's

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definitely >> Charlie Adam was the only one to drive the bus home from track from >> right well that's what I'm saying if there's certain sports that don't do it then I could see you making adjustments to that but if there's others like I just feel there's there's certain things that you have to look at >> how many kids ride home on the ski club

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>> every okay we have point >> because everyone tells They stay with their kids. >> No, they we have about probably between six to maybe nine that get signed out. So the rest of the 40 50 some kids that go all come back with me. And for

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bowling, every single kid comes back with me. Not one kid gets picked up except if they have a doctor's appointment or going somewhere else. We had that happen twice this year. So, so that's what I'm saying. It may work >> to that because I've had my kid on bowling and ski and every time you come

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here to pick them up, the public. So, I just I just wanted it may work for some sports, but it it and I think for both of those, bowling and ski club, it's going to definitely limit what kids could participate to have parents to get there and pick them up. That's why I don't want to take any more of your

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time, and I appreciate it. >> Motion to open. Motion to go into executive session. motion >> second. >> Okay. So, we're in the communications and public relations section. So, we have big activities this month. We have

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on the 10th we'll have the big little buddy picnic at Frankfurt Park. The 16th is an early dismissal, 17th last day of pool early dismissal, and graduation at the fairgrounds. um starting at 6 PM. So that's amazing. Um Kate Adam is not the chair of the policy

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committee. >> That's been there. >> Um a long time >> to um so there's a policy on sponsorships and advertising and school athletics which basically we can't we can't put on a jersey. Right. That's what that is. That's an update there.

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>> Um >> all right, Mr. Lassard, you're up with the finance. able to uh first off I have topics about deficit transfers. Anytime I transfer budget funds to another fund in this case activities I have to get

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board resolution uh in which case resolution number 25 which is on page 70 transferring $10,000 to student activities for the pay participant shortage. You can see on this thing

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about $9,551 short between fees collected for for participation and the actual expenses of the expenses about $10,000 is the officials that's referees fees for tournaments or any of those items and

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then uh the remainder was all transportation. So, transportation, two-way transportation for this year was $15,322. Um, the discussion being one way or two-way. The cost for one way, Dory Park

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is probably going to change, but the overall cost for two-way would be for this coming school year would be 11,220. That's one way back up. One way would be 11,220. two-way based on our contracts that we have would be 22,846.

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Um, >> you can't do one way to Dorney Park, right? >> Yeah, that'd be pretty difficult. >> That would be a lot that would be a lot of parents driving a long way. So, I understand that it was bid out that way, but yeah, >> we have we have contracts for both. It's

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just the affordability. >> So, it's 30 and it was 33% higher than >> last year. >> The last year. >> Yes. So, we got the reason our actual was 15,000 is because we had a contract with craft bus. They gave us a very good

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bid for the school activities because they were hoping that we were going to that was going to entice us to give them the two and from school contract which was significantly higher than first student. >> Uh so, needless to say, they declined to renew that contract for 26 27. So, we

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had to do a bid regardless. Um, we did renew the one for stalker. That's where that's where those two-way routes costs are are come from is the stalker bus um contract. But since we have a one-way option and a two-way option,

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>> your daily bus is for student though, right? >> Yes. Yeah. So, with that, this discussion is twofold. One of them is the fact that, you know, we have a $9,551 deficit in the pay to participate, which is why I'm requesting a transfer to uh

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student activities. The other portion of that is to discuss the participation fees for next year. Um, you know, the suggestion was, you know, we came up short, shy of $10,000 at the $100. You know, $175

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for the second kid, $50 for the third. or there's no additional um but if we were to stay at two-way transportation that shortage of 10,000 would be more like $20,000 which we did not budget for that. Um I do also

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need to you know if we go to one way then we would actually hopefully be a wash. you know, Dory Park would kind of wipe it out, but we would be if we have this increase, it will bring in about $7,000 additional. Um, with the savings by moving to one way, it should be

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should be a wash at the end of the year between the savings on the going to oneway busing and the additional funds for for the pay to participate >> because you're saying this year we had a 41.1% shortage. >> Yes. >> That's a lot. And that was with a better

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thanex expected >> last. What was the previous year? >> We did it all. It wasn't it wasn't reported in the same way because the board was paying for all the athletics transportation. So it's just in the general budget. I would have to pull that up.

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>> Is our uh is our attendance lower now that we're doing play pay to play? >> I don't think so. >> There's still like increases. Doesn't seem like it just in the last two years for me with basketball and soccer, but I can't speak for all of them. Doesn't seem to be. So,

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Dorny Park, most of the field trips are paid for like a field trip is paid for through kids when they go to when they go to Dory Park is falls under the category of like the pay to play kind of thing, right? >> So, it's not like they pay for the trip to go when they go to Dorney Park.

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>> It's just the transportation piece is covered for play pay to play. >> Yeah. They'll pay for like the admission fees and all of that stuff. Oh, so they don't pay. >> So they don't pay for the bus like they would if they went to like >> I treat I treat it like athletics whether it's jazz band or or they go to

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shop music. Right. >> Okay. >> As a parent when we pay for class trips is that is the bus part of that fee? >> Okay. PTA this year did give $1,000 per

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grade level. So they gave $9,000 to offset that this year. But that can't be a guarantee that we expect year after year. That was this year. We're very grateful for that. >> That's big. >> Yeah. Because I mean to go to Medieval Times, what was it, guys? 70 bucks. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> It was $16 for kindergarten or for second grade to go to the fairgrounds, >> right? >> Yeah. The buses are so >> Yeah. >> Um >> I mean, we do have to, I guess, over the summer have these considerations of one-way busing and what how this will

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work. I personally think that Mr. Sylvester is a very smart man and he will figure it out. >> We will we'll certainly meet with the staff like we do have our Chris >> Deming >> our pickup trucks for the school district which we can we got to go

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through the approval process and driver abstracts and stuff but we that can be that is available to help with transporting equipment. Yeah. or even the coaches if you could drive that thing to them so they don't have to drive their own vehicle but you can >> I think the point of that >> potential accidents is worth considering

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like that's a huge liability >> if a coach is >> well that too but if a coach is driving their own car and they get in an accident on the way to or from a school event like >> is the school responsible

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>> yes is the school respons whether they're driving that car or if you >> if they're in the if they're in the work truck from here. >> Yeah, >> you're under responsibility. >> I drove to Long Island today. If I got an accident, my company wouldn't >> pay for me. >> Okay. So,

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>> what like they are covered >> for school function. >> So, I think there's two different pieces here, right? Bowling club and ski club are different than sports because >> you're watching your kids. So, you're going to those games versus picking your kid up for an activity. Not saying one way or the other. I'm just

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>> Is that an option to do some things two-way? I mean, it's going to change the numbers obviously, but like like we said, Dorney Park, you can't just drop the kids off. >> Um, same thing. I think ski club makes sense to have to bring them home and bing >> and it depends on like what they're what

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the bus company's willing to do, what they're willing to contract, right, Chris? Mr. Lassar, >> uh, they're willing to do whatever we're willing to pay them for. >> Yeah. So, I mean, it does happen. And I know high school and middle school are different for sure, but there's definitely more drop off busing at the high school level. It's not the same.

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Kids are younger and it's not the same situation, but as things get more challenging, that's definitely happening more. >> Just younger kids. >> Is there ever a way out of this? I feel like it's terrible. And I I hate what to pay to play. >> Yes. I hate

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>> when you approve this resolution to send to the governor to say we need more money because we're through here. Well, that's not about this, but we could do that, too. >> It is. It's a budget item. >> It's wholly a budget item. >> I mean, >> that's why our budget would not allow for us to do this anymore.

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>> Yeah. It it's it's getting really difficult at this point because you've got so many costs going up really fast and ultimately that leaves about, as we talked about, 10 or 11% of the budget is discretionary and

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that percentage is getting used more and more. trying to do as much as we can without actually getting rid of programs or losing programs >> as that as an alternative. There's like no way out of this I feel like which is upsetting >> and that's the key if we want to keep everything intact that we have like yes

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this is going to be a problem but eventually we're going to have to make tough decisions. >> Yeah. Can I ask for the I and I I what to Chris's point I don't see an issue with the sporting events of that parents

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come as spectators as much as I see an issue with ski club. >> How much would it be if we asked because my kids have all done ski club. I used to have to pay for the bus but I'm sure we were not paying the full amount. I

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think we were just contributing towards the cost of the bus. How much would it be for parents to pay for roundtrip busing for Mountain Creek? Like if we did just that, is it an exorbitant amount of

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money for the parents to price it? >> Well, it probably would be. And then it goes by numbers. So like if you're talking about like 50 kids doing ski club, but then you only get 25. >> Then it's going to be a lot more to cover that. >> Is it $5,000 per trip? Per season for all trips. They do six, right? Is it

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five or six? Five. But I think the more reasonable would be to pay the difference between the the one and two, right? Not the overall cost. >> Just quick math. If ski club were to be self-funded, meaning they're funding their own transportation, >> 56,

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that number 5,618 divided by roughly 30, which is roughly the amount of kids that go is an extra $187 per student >> plus the 150 for to pay the if. So that's the thing that we consider is we

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would pull ski bowling and that out. So they're not necessarily paying for the pay to play unless they're doing soccer, field hockey, >> right? If they're doing the other activity, you're paying. >> You're paying. But if they were just doing solely ski club, they're actually paying more

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than what we're paying for the pay to play. >> Yeah. But I wouldn't divide by five. I would divide by, right? Like if you're >> No, but if they're not doing pay to play, then they're just funding the bus because >> if you were trying to look >> I mean I think for ski club too the thing is like the parents have to buy their lift ticket, right? The parents have to rent their skis, their boots. So like

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>> it's a lot. >> You would only But >> I don't I maybe I'm skewed, but if you're Would you say it's $187? >> That's the full amount, right? You took 5,000. >> Yeah. But if we don't do pay to play, if we pull them from pay to play, they don't get funding from us.

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>> But I would imagine there's probably a lot of those kids. How many are only doing ski club? >> Is that a pretty unique group that doesn't do anything else? >> Well, I know this school year a lot of the basketball kids are also doing >> So, there's probably a lot of kids that are doing something else. They're not just >> kids going.

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>> What as a parent are you willing to pay $187 for your kid to take the bus five times to Mount Creek and back? >> Plus, >> it's going to probably cost you a lot more in gas. I mean, are as a parent, are you willing to pay $187 for your kid to go to

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Mountain Creek five times back and forth with ski club? >> That's not the only poss. >> That would then that would be their only >> that's transportation. Yeah. >> But if we pulled it from pay to play, right? And it's not a pay to play. But if you do something else that's in pay

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to play, you have to pay for paytoplay. >> Plus, if you join ski club, you're not in pay to play. It's removed from that matrix and now you have to pay $187 for the busing. I I So the follow

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>> but I I would say I would pay it because even if she wants to do field hockey and ski club and she's field hockey for $150, what wreck sport are you getting for much less than $150? >> Nothing's cheap. wreck cheerleading

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where you have a cheer coach named Mandy Joust who was never a cheerleader in her life. >> You're paying 125 per kid. No discount for the second kid and you're getting a pretty crappy coach. >> But if we leave pay,

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right, and you make it 90, >> John, you're a good example. Would you want to pay an extra 90 so your kid gets bus? >> Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't bother me. No, >> I would pay the extra 90. >> Why are we splitting it in half? >> I'm saying the one way should be

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difference between one way and two way. So you take the the 180 and make it 90. It's still in pay to play. >> So one way for a ski club is 2,200, >> right? Taking the difference between two-way and one way, it's 3,000ish, right? You use 5,000, right? >> So it would be half

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>> 20. Yeah. $3,400 >> because if the one way is coming out of pay to play anyway, >> right about 75, >> right? So that you can get the second bus. >> Yeah. >> So that's five trips. >> And isn't there about an average of like 50 kids that do do this? >> About 30.

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>> Is it 30? >> Yeah. Just we take two buses. And the reason you take two buses cuz everybody's getting up there. >> And then it's then for bowling too, you have to look at bowling. What I mean that's more minimal. It's only four trips. >> So if it's only 30 kids, can't we like brains? Like I'm just thinking about it

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like you just we the the school has other vehicles and somebody can take >> We don't have other vehicles. >> We don't have a pickup truck. >> We can't transport kids. >> You can't transport. >> You can transport snowboards. >> Yeah. But is it the gear or is it just because they are like

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>> in what they're wearing, not their boards. A lot of them rent it. So if we have their own majority of >> them snowboard >> maybe there's a few that rent but I'm sure the majority >> are you saying we take the the put the

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gear in the pickup truck and then just have one bus is that >> yeah these poor kids are suffering left and right ever since this whole pandemic thing and it's like everybody wants to take stuff >> just one one I don't want to jam their stuff in a pickup truck and then you get there and somebody's stuff is broken

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then that's a big deal >> you know There there's things, but you have to talk to the the parents about it. Like some people are like, "Hey, that sounds fantastic. Now the kids can still go, you know, bindings or whatnot." I I've seen it all. Ski poles. >> There's ways you can store these things.

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So if they're not getting damaged, I mean, if you got all these kids just walking up to a truck and throwing all their gear in, you know, and they're they're just as likely to get damaged on the bus. >> That's what you're going to have. >> And a lot of these kids rent their stuff there. Not all of them are bringing their own gear, you know, besides for

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snow pants and snow jacket, but there's and these kids like >> I think we take I think we I think >> I think we all try to save money by taking from these kids to send them outside. You know, it falls under a bunch of different things. How long is our math, social studies, and science classes? Aren't they like two hours long

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each? >> No. So math is like uh a two period block which is an hour and 20 minutes. Science, social studies pretty much a one period. So that's like >> so for all those academic all those academic classes I think the state requires your four hours.

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>> So we're above our 4 hours on academics. >> Well that's yeah like for it to count for a full day. So hence the early dismissal is way over. >> These kids still got eight hours to do something different besides for being locked up in a classroom. >> But John, what are you complaining about the money aspect? Adding money to it or

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are you willing to pay $75 for your kid to have round? I I I feel like kids deserve to go do what they got to do instead of being locked up and everything's taken away from them. So many parents >> we can't we can't debate the school day. The school day is what the school day is and that's what it is. But for this is

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for pay to play for school for ski club and bowling which are the two club and I pay for the kids sitting next to him and I'd pay for the kids sitting next to him. >> Me too, John. >> So I mean >> I don't think we're trying to take our way. We're just trying to >> We're trying to figure out >> Well, this is a very slippery slope

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we're going down with trying not to take. >> John, you voted for zero taxes. You didn't want any taxes going up. How do you afford this? >> You got to talk to the people. I didn't want to take I don't want to raise taxes cuz I don't want to I don't want the people paying for something. I mean, what's our grade average? Has our grade

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average came up? >> Mhm. >> Has this come up a lot? Or are we still below average? So we've gone from 73% to we're just short of 80%. We're at 79% if we're talking about NS. >> So I'm talking about the one where we were at like 37

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>> proficiency. >> Yeah. >> Uh I mean yeah we're above state average for the majority of our grades and >> below state average. >> No the state we were just very below what you would expect when you're looking at those numbers. You would expect them to be much higher. So like the state average seems to be pretty

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low. And so we we weren't below the state average, but when you see the numbers, it is a little jarring for people that aren't in education especially to be like, whoa, that's that is low. But right now, we're talking about paytoplay. So the the the vote that you have to taxes, you know, that's

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why I'm asking these questions now. You know, that's what >> if you don't want taxes going up, but then you're like then you got to pay. Then there's got to be relief in the budget somewhere. I I agree with uh Mrs. Zard. I do think the speed program would

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suffer I think without roundtrip transportation um just because of the location and the time that people have to be picked up. So I'm not as concerned about the other sports because as Chris pointed out, >> what about bowling?

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So, so I'm this is tough because I'm I'm basing it based on what I've seen my kids do and I have found that they have found the ski club and the team sports to be very rewarding. The bowling club

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experience for them has been more of a social thing. I'm not saying that socialization is not important, but I think there are social things they could do where maybe they're not paying us. >> Um, so if we're looking at trying to

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maintain some of these lower costs and still give kids opportunity, I would rather forfeit bowling club. >> Yes. As a forfeit bowling club is a roundtrip transportation. >> That's just my personal point of view. I don't have any data on how many kids are

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involved in >> Florida lanes is it's not that far of a ride like >> what's it 10 minutes further than if they have to come to the sport >> and it's only like a 5 530 pickup it's not >> it's not like Mountain Creek's a hike for a lot of people >> now the only thing I would say about

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mountain creek or uh bowling is one of I think Kate might have brought it up that that might be a sport or or an activity that appeals to a different population of kids that are not involved necessarily over athletic. >> You get a whole different >> mentality of kids that will go to

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bowling over ski club or doing like the kids that like to stay. >> We don't have any here's the thing. The rest of the things are sports on this list. >> Yeah. I I don't >> we can pull clubs >> and then the parents would have to fund the two-way transportation whatever that looks like. But then they would not be

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in pay to play because they also don't need referees. They don't need Right. So like >> the the sports need have extra cost of tournament fees, referees, all of that. Whereas >> ski and bowling don't need those. So you

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could pull them from the matrix of pay to play. Now you can be in those things without pay to play, but it's going to cost you whatever $75 to $187. And again, you don't fully know that cost until you get the enrollment for

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ski club. So what you can do is divide it by last year's numbers and see how many kids you get. Eighth graders graduated, sixth graders come up. So like you can kind of play off that for the cost and you know if it's if it's

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less if we get less than what the buses cost, you're going to do a transfer like that again. >> I don't think it's going to be a budget buster of a transfer. >> Mhm. talking that way about like they don't need official stuff. Why does student council have to pay to be on student council?

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>> Is that in the >> That's a part of the pay to play. They don't have >> is it? >> I don't think Davis >> I had to pay for my son in there. >> It was again because we were you >> because everything was included in it.

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So student council they don't have official one broad it's not paytoplay it's an activity fee. >> Okay. So if you are doing any activity that falls outside of the school hours was lumped in. >> So can we just keep everything

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>> I'm just going to put this out here too. >> Okay. >> Eventually the way our budget is going um paytoplay may need to fund the stipened pay. >> The stipened pay is in the contract in a

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matrix ABC. Step, step, step. We don't have to fulfill anything on that matrix. It's not like because it's in there, because it says that there's an environmental club that we have to fund an environmental club. If one kid

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comes up and says, "Hey, I want to be in the environmental club." All right. Now, somebody gets a stipen for $1,100. No. So, it's the same thing with ski club, bowling club. If it becomes too expensive, you you don't ha there's nothing that

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says that there has to be these clubs. It could be field hockey that goes. It could be so at some point, hopefully not when I'm here, so other people can discuss this. The stipened pay will need to be absorbed by

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paytoplay >> because we won't have it. >> I mean, that's But I'm for next year. or does it make sense to just keep ski club and bowling club in the paytoplay and then as a caveat these these clubs

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provide roundtrip busing you need to pay this additional >> difference that's something >> so you're saying so student would pay $150 but because they're doing ski club they need an additional $75 >> to cover the bus two-way bus to cover

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the return bus now you're going to and I'm Sure. Then will you have parents that will say then I'm not I don't want my kid going on the bus. I'll drive them to and from. I don't think that's going to happen. >> It might >> I don't think I don't think >> I think like I said for $75 for their

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time, the gas >> going back and forth >> every trip. I think it's worth >> I think it's worth $75 to cover five trips. >> Demograph has that money. if somebody $50 >> and if somebody can't afford it, if somebody can't afford it and they they

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can contact Mr. Sylvester because if you're free or reduced lunch, you're eligible for none of these fees. So like >> or they could reach out to Mr. Sylvester and say, "Hey, I'm having a really hard time. This is my situation. >> My kid loves ski club."

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>> I think that's But I also just Nobody does it. >> I just also Right. I know. But I also just can't help feeling sorry for that family who will not reach out to Mr. Sylvester and who just will can't let their kid do it. And I I know it's

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probably only a couple if that. But I just >> I feel like >> our advisors cuz this came up with the band and chorus being included in this like a year ago and that was a big concern. Um and as you know our banded course teachers are on top of things. So

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if there was a kid that was in it and then all of a sudden they didn't come back like they would let us know. But to the best of our knowledge all the kids came back it was all covered. If there was a you know an issue that's the advantage of being >> it was it was brought to our attention. So we've not been made aware of any kid that has not participated that

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participated the year before due to this. >> Like my kid only plays field hockey. So I am paying $150 for her to play field hockey. But then Victoria Vance, she did every single club, every single group, every single thing. So Jen Vance is like, I'm happy to give you

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>> $150, you know, like because she's getting so much out of it. >> Also, those families who are getting so much out of it are probably partly why there's a shortage. >> Is there any way we can send out like a pre-season survey? >> Can you send something out to the

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parents and be like, "Hey, this is what our plans are. If your kid wants to do ski club, wants to do bowling, these things are going to cost extra. Could you just give us a like if you think your kid will you'd want to sign your kid up because we're trying to >> are you more likely or less likely to participate if it's >> you know that would be and you do it

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twice like months before cuz comes after the new year right the high school just for the incoming >> Yeah. Yeah. It's like >> they're not offering French they >> put out a poll. Would your child want to

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do sign language or Spanish? Then they get a feel and they know what they, you know. >> Not bad. >> Interesting. >> Okay. So, when we vote on this, Mr. Lazard, what are we exactly voting on? So, we're voting on the suggested increase.

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>> We want to start. >> Is it keep bowling the way it is, though? Because you do have the bowling is a much smaller entity where it's about an $800 difference >> for how many kids. So, leave it as is and just provide the two-way or it's $25 if you're doing bowling. >> What are you doing? Well, I think we

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have to charge something because if if somebody sniffs out that, hey, bowling does two-way and they're not getting charged, ski club does two-way and they're getting >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And like that information will go out immediately. >> And then you have to ask the bus

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company, right? You have to tell the bus company that those two activities, those dates would be require roundtrip bus. >> Are we allowed to ask for donations? Is the school allowed to do that? Like when you put out the permission slip or whatnot? if you if you'd like to donate a little extra

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>> or pay for another kid. >> Yeah. You know, not like but >> but we're not allowed to make money on this. So if we actually wound up where there was >> a surplus. Wait. So if we did >> what what it would do is it would go to the payment in the activities

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offset, you know, offset the potential for increases. What it would do if it ended up with surplus funds left over. They were just >> Do you feel that there are people that are just too embarrassed to ask for the help or that nobody really? >> Hard to say.

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>> Yeah. Um I mean I've definitely had conversations with students where I'm like, "Hey, thought you would have and then we you work." Um and I've definitely had a parent or two reach out, but I haven't had many.

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>> And are the parents aware that free and reduced lunch are eligible for a Z? Yeah, >> it's included in all the information like so one of our summer projects you know is to think about all this stuff to get everything ready you know we can do some of the suggestions we heard here today to try to get feedback for you

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know get ahead of the game with ski club with bowling club you know just try to >> but I think it's either one or the other like I like sending out a survey >> um I mean if the survey comes back and people are like no we won't do it we won't pay the extra money then what what

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is the deal And we offer that question >> that that's Yeah, it's got to be just we're we're deciding that. >> I think it might be a nice gauge to just be like how are would your child be more likely or less likely to participate if we do this? >> Not like that going to impact our decision.

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>> Yeah. >> Just tell them the truth. Just tell them the truth. Like, hey, we're looking for your answers because we're either going to hire two buses or one bus, you know, and then this is how it is. or like would you like what what are your feelings as a community of like getting

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rid of activities versus doing the paid play? I don't know. I don't know that it's really worth it because would we be able to change anything anyway? But >> Chris, I didn't think I think I think that's a fair amount. The 75 for five ski trips. I think most parents

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>> don't want to pick their kid up in the middle of the winter from >> Mountain Creek. No creep. >> No creeper. >> And if you're picking them up, they're going to be like, "Just one more run. Not in my pants." >> Yeah. >> Two hours later. >> 10:00.

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Where are you? >> I I I I >> I understand what I'm saying in terms of like well-rounded experience for for the students, but it the situation financially is is difficult. I think

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that if we can charge a little bit to keep the programs in place and keep kids enrolled in it, I think it's worth the extra expense. >> Yeah, I wouldn't want to get rid of those >> and I do think that those I think ski

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club would suffer if there was not roundtrip busing. I think that the participation >> Yeah, I would not create some of that. Okay. >> So, the resolution is on the rates for the uh

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>> sorry it's been saying from the beginning. We're not anything like that. It's just are you willing to increase by $50. >> All this extra stuff. >> Yeah. It's a good discussion. >> Yes. Very good discussion. >> Are you happy we had it? >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

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>> This one is also related is is not payable but the damage waiverss for the Chromebooks. So, we're short about $3,000 on Chromebook repairs, especially as they're getting into years two, three, four. Um, want to re increase the

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waiver from $25 to 50. Um, hopefully that'll give us enough to break even. Um, right now we have about $1,200 $1,300 worth of repairs. But generally speaking, once all the phone books are turned in in June, we have between two and $3,000 worth of repairs because

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there's a lot of repairs that just it's just >> can say like this. >> That's just how Sharon puts in that the >> into the the ledger activities, >> right? um

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>> like we'll get whenever we get the pay to play fees, those all come through um the pay school system. So it feels the flag that's pay to participate. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Why do we use Chromebooks and all that? >> Would it save money, John? This is on the same line of thinking. Would it save

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money to phase them out of like elementary school or >> elementary school? We only have them for grades 5 through eight. So that what happens is once they kids age up to graduate from eighth grade, the ones that are still viable

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>> down to class elementary. >> Yeah. So this is only for 5 to 8 for the insurance. >> Okay. Good. >> And just it's it was 25 this year you paid, right? And now you're asking 50 >> to cover and that's the first damage first

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>> after that. Can we please put that out? Because last year when it went out that in August that you needed to pay your Chromebook fee, there was a whole Facebook thread on I wasn't prepared to pay this. I have three kids in middle school. I wasn't prepared to give $75.

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So now they're going to be giving 150. So if we can get a communication out, put it in the bulldog bulletin that that is going up. It's another cost. There was like a >> that was when Kirk initially implemented it, I think. >> No, it was last year because I heard

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about it. Yeah. >> I got calls about it and I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. Like >> probably a good way to cut down on uh breakage and repair cost to stop sending them home. >> Well, it having the insurance >> made a huge difference on repairs,

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right? They were definitely more careful. >> John, I took your question, too. You asked what they're used for, didn't you? >> Yeah, I did. Sorry. >> Yeah. No, it's all good. Yeah. What are they used for? >> The Chromebooks. >> Yeah. >> So, I mean, Google Classroom, the teachers

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uh post all the assignments. When a kid's at home, like, "Hey, dad, what you or the dad says to the kid, "What was our homework? What were we doing in school today?" You get on your Google Classroom, you have PDFs right there. You have all the stuff. There's the videos that teachers post. um you know

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so they can continue learning at home but obviously in school because a lot of our curricular materials are you know access through online platforms. >> Yeah. So we're like switching our whole system over to computers and costing money and then we're looking for money instead of just buying

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>> that's just education today. >> If we want our students to perform and write great on state assessments and increase their ability like that's kind of the hand that we're dealt with in across the country is >> phasing out of that. States are phasing

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right out of these computers. They see the damage. Yeah. It's it's cool. I mean that's why we're here talking about it. But uh but yeah, states are phasing right out of this and and we come up with these like I'm saying, you know, stop sending these things home, keep them right in school. >> And it was like, well, now

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>> Well, I know Roman's class, they uh kept them in school unless they needed it at home. >> Mhm. >> So, he would have to sign it out to bring it home and then he'd bring it back to school. >> Mhm. >> So, he didn't bring his home. >> What grade is he? >> Fifth grader, right?

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>> Yeah. Fifth graders. >> I hate them actually. We have a Chromebook. >> Sixth, seventh, and eighth grade. >> They have a Chromebook at school. >> Yeah. >> I mean, they don't have to. They're not We're not like forcing them to, but >> we're also not telling them to leave them right here.

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>> Where would they keep them though? >> They probably have to leave them in their locker >> because they're changing classes. >> The high school. >> Okay. So, that's $50. >> Uh, a little bit of good news, though. Lunch prices not going up.

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>> Yay. >> Keep it quiet. >> I actually thought we paid 375. >> Then I realized we paid for. >> Yeah. >> So what is they actually there is a minimum like >> there is a minimum increase mandated that you have to do every year. They

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calculate a price lunch equity tool that department of agriculture makes you complete. But if you have a surplus >> in your food service program you can keep it flat and weird. bring >> real quick.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I have approval for technology purchases. Those are being purchased under state contracts and co-op contracts, but since they're over the bid threshold, they have to get board approval. It is alarming though how much >> technology costs have gone up

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specifically for the servers just because of the cost of memory. They've gone up over 60%. >> Yeah. And just the password has gone up over those costs are going up too. Hon >> it's not actually going to be cheaper in

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a couple years for technology. >> Yeah. Page nine >> resolution number 37. >> Sure. uh annual reserve resolutions every June is the time of the year when we are able to put money into our reserve accounts. So I'm putting uh

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suggesting $40,000 to go to maintenance reserve. We've used almost 40,000 this year. So I try to put at least as much as we spent if not a little bit better. Uh and then we're putting $50,000 towards excess surplus that goes towards the tax levy. Um whatever is left over

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will go into maintenance uh capital reserve which is going to be needed for the sewer project if we get approved. >> So for Chromebooks it's $38,850. >> Yes. That's for one class like this is the new grade and they'll have those for four years a

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whole another teacher for that. professional. >> Not even professional. >> Okay, last item. I'll be quick. Uh, sewer project updates. >> Y to discuss tuition rates, but uh sewer project. So, just as a followup, you

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know, our project as mentioned was recommended by Gottheimer's office to go for funding. So, now it's at the appropriation level could be up to a year. Uh just to be proactive, I did speak to uh town council to see if we can get on the calendar. So September

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22nd, we're going to be at uh the committee workshop meeting just to discuss next steps should we get approved. Yeah. Frankfurt Township uh next steps if we get approved, how how potentially we can get funding. >> Is it helpful if we all attend that or some of us anyway?

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>> Sure. >> It would be definitely helpful anyone that's available to come join us. Uh last I I did I was frank with the with Lori at the last meeting was like last time we came here we were supposed to have the same discussion but unfortunately it was election time

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>> and I don't know what's >> and uh the discussion never really happened. It was pretty much argued by the township attorney. So >> yeah that was about a waste. I >> was like we would like to have an actual discussion that so we're not wasting time but

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>> this was last July. >> Yeah. So this will be September I think it's 22nd. >> Is it just a regular township meeting like Tuesdays? >> Yeah. >> It's the committee one. So it's their secondary meeting. >> What time is that? Seven

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>> six or seven. >> I got I'll send up when we get that done. I'll I'll see who's >> Thank you, Mr. Lassard. Wonderful section. >> School safety. We had a fire drill on June 5th and a school security drill on June 5th. Um, so now we're at the

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consent agenda. So the following items are matters of routine business and will be voted on by one motion. Motion to vote on the consent agenda. >> Motion second all the way through, Mr. Whistler.

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>> I think 46 >> separate things. >> Yeah, that's the end. That's so we'll go to 46. >> Yeah. 46. >> We resolved that of the Frankfurt Township Board of Education accept the recommendation of the Superintendent of Schools to approve the above identified

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regular agenda items numbered 2026608-3 through 20268-46. Miss Dexter, >> I'm trying to remember if I missed the last meeting or not. Do you know if I was here >> then? Yes, I was here.

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>> Charlene, >> yes. Brienne >> West. >> John, >> if I wasn't here for the last meeting, which one do I abstain from? >> Number three. >> Three and four. >> All right. I'm going to three and four. >> Yeah. >> All right. I'm going to say no to three,

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four, and 37. Stand from three and four. No. 37. >> Jesse. >> Yeah. >> Mandy. Yes. >> Now, can we do this one? >> Yes. So that's okay. This is good of the order at that point.

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>> No. So then motion to open public comment. >> Motion >> second. >> Am I the second motion? >> Yeah. >> Nobody said >> anybody have a public comment. >> There's a lot of comments. >> I just want to ask a question and it's

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yes or no. Can we as a school hire a bus driver for our bus? Can you at as a school hire a bus driver? >> But don't we have a bus? >> We don't have >> We don't have a busy. >> No, >> but the cost that would probably >> But a school can hire a bus driver.

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>> I did not know we didn't have our bus anymore. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> You can hire a bus. >> Okay. So, items in the good of the order. So, we have the New Jersey School of Con conservation resolution of support. So, this was sent to us

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um by Amy that the funding for the school of conservation up in Stoke State Forest um that funding has been pulled um that they're eliminating the funds. So, what

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they're asking for is um local support to file this resolution um in order to show the governor that we support the school of conservation. Continuing on, >> it's really just an acknowledgement of what's going on at the $3 million and it

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cost us nothing. Um the Sussex County Board of Commissioners has sent this exact thing to the governor and um our state representatives have too. So, it's just a show of support and kind of a last stitch effort to get it funded so

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it doesn't close. Um, I also have some pamphlets if anyone's interested. Um, the school of conservation does a lot of great work in the county and for the whole state. Um, so yeah. >> All right.

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>> So, we we would need to change this actually because this is for the county commissioners. >> Oh, yeah. So be it resolved that county commissioners it would be the friend >> township. >> Thank you for printing this >> I didn't even know about that. Yeah, it's actually if anyone

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>> So if you remember at the NJ the Sussex County when we saw Kate receive her certified board >> that and I emailed him because he said he was also going to send out a >> who resolution. >> Rob said he was going to send out a

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resolution about school funding up here. >> I emailed him. I never heard from him. He sends me 50 emails a day but he never writes me back from whatever I said to him. >> Res. >> He never writes back. >> We all do it. Share it. Maybe we should email Kelly and then have her >> because they were tying it somehow to

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the Highlands. Um, >> and like pointing out that we can't bring in businesses because of the restrictions and >> yeah, maybe we should email Kelly. >> All right, but that's so for this one for the school of conservation, um, we'll vote if you are willing to have us

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send this resolution to the governor. >> So, what do I say? Be it resolved that the Franklin Township Board of Education accept the recommendation of the Superintendent of Schools to approve agenda item >> 47. >> Yes. >> 47, which is the New Jersey School of

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Conservation Resolution of support. Motion to vote. >> Motion. >> Motion second. >> Okay. Mandy Joust. Yes. Jesse Vaughn. >> Yes. >> John Tiger. >> Yes. >> Brienne Stevenson. >> Yes. >> Charlene Molar. >> Yes.

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>> Chris Dexter. Yes. >> Perfect. >> You guys should go up there if you have the opportunity. >> We were just up there not too long ago. They had all our ground guys trying to find knots on their little knot board. That was good. >> I was like, we're so rough on each

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other. That's >> So Kate Kate is the chair of the communications committee and she had reached out asking to update the district letter head. I think it was attached to this email. Mr. So, the SR played around with it and updated the >> Yeah, it's at the

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>> at the back here. So, there's one for the board of education and then one for the the district. So, one has like a school on it, one has the bulldog. Um, we don't have to vote on it or anything. Uh, Chris, Kate was just asking for an

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update. Um, and then the school board petitions, if you want to run for the school board, um, are due to the county clerk at 400 p.m. on Monday, July 27th. Um, so that's Charlene, Kate, and Jesse

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are up for election, right? >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Just looking at different letterheads. Is that what you busy looking for? Sorry. >> Yeah. No, it's just Yeah. >> When are due by? Monday, July 27th, 4 pm at the county clerk's office. >> So I for John, did you need to get 25

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signatures? >> If you're in 25 if you're running for the first time, I think it's 35. >> Wow. >> So you have praise God, I got that in like seven hours. >> Started on a Friday night, worked

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Saturday, went back out Saturday night and shot down. >> He called me and I was in Iceland. What? Um, okay. So then anybody else for the good of the order? Anything? So I do just want to say at the end of the

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school year, thank you very much to um, Mr. Newman, Mr. Sylvester, Mr. Lassard. Um, they've been great support for the board. Um, really appreciate the 75th year here at Frankfurt. Um, and I'm sure

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that you will find a good reprieve this summer from me texting and calling and >> gonna miss it >> asking like what the heck is going on. So, you know, many I have had many long phone conversations with these gentlemen and they take my phone call every time,

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which I would have pushed myself to voicemail, but I appreciate it. Um, and uh, you know, keep on keeping on. Our next meeting isn't until August 24th. Um, so enjoy your summer. The come to

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graduation 6 p.m. at the fairgrounds next Wednesday. >> Richard's in the building. What's it called? >> Uh, the building. >> The building where everyone's going to be. >> Motion. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Motion. >> Second.

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>> Thank you. And thank you.