Yeah, that they can't do it by themselves. They >> probably [Music] [Applause] call the meeting in order. Pledge of >> Allegiance.
I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Public meetings act statement to the
public act. Marsh >> here. >> Here >> here. >> Uh motion to approve correspondence and reports. Make a motion to approve correspondence and reports. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I.
>> Uh motion to approve the minutes from September 9th, 2025. >> Motion to approve the minutes. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> uh motion >> abstain. Motion to approve the bill list. >> Make a motion to approve the bill list.
>> Second Matt. >> Marsh. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Can a motion to approve a coin drop for Knights of Columbus number 3397?
Motion to approve the coin drop. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I I >> uh motion to approve raffles two VFW and uh Oasis animal shelter for one. >> Make a motion to approve the raffles.
>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Next one we have is resolution 14025 awarding the 2025 Matthew McClusty award to officer Michael Roco presented by Michelle Harding. I get a motion on resolution R140.
>> Make a motion for R140. Second, >> Matt. Matt. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Chief.
>> Thank you, Mayor Council. I want to bring up I want to introduce Michelle. This is Matthew and his family. Um tonight award [Music]
his daughter and his son. Uh I'll just read a short bio about Alco. Also Roco is 36 years old. He was born and raised in Marl, New Jersey where he currently reside. His wife Riel and her two children were in the south court. He began law enforcement career
at age 2009 working as a grass special officer and joined the staff care university became a full-time police officer in 2015 also set his profession and has a passion for helping others. He takes
great pride in serving the resume. So a little bit on how and why was chosen. Um first of all it's a very prestigious award selected by our frontline supervisor. So they go on and select this year and it really shows uh
you know who they think is out there uh all for many different reasons. We all cannot be the bad guys. We have to arrest people. with this traffic but at the end of the day we all get into this profession to help people and that's
what alloc cares about the community and cares about everyone who comes in contact and I know Michelle doesn't want to speak but I think the message she wants to portray by this award is that even in
tragedy we can find hope we can on kindness we find compassion and that's why I also rocking this award. Congratulations. Matt pictures. >> Anybody got a picture? >> Yeah, we'll get some pictures. Thanks again.
We'll take a few minutes. [Music] Thank you for that. Uh can I get a motion to open the uh public hearing for ordinance 11:25? Ordinance of the township for Franklin County, Glouester, state of New Jersey, releasing, extinguishing, and vacating
the rights of the public in a portion of paper street known as Washington Avenue. Make a motion for 0125. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I open up the public portion. Correct.
>> Yeah. Open for the public portion. >> Can I get a motion to close the public hearing for ordinance 11:25? Motion to close. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I make a motion to approve adopt ordinance 0125. >> Make a motion to adopt 01 1125.
>> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. A motion to open the first public portions for resolutions below. Make a motion for the first public portion. >> Second.
>> All those in favor? All right. >> Good evening, Mr. >> Good evening. >> Harry Kennedy, 1578 Friesville Road, Franklinville, New Jersey. Uh my first question was in regards to uh R1 13325.
you're hiring uh or continuing a contract or doubling and adding 50% of a contract for the Vigilante Law Firm. Is that correct? >> That's correct. >> And uh Miss Vigilante will provide
services in regards to her original contract. She'll advise provide advice and consent on legal matters involving labor. >> Correct. And would that also include representing members of the township committee? >> Correct. >> And
>> as needed. >> As needed. And Miss Vigilante, is she representing all members of the township committee? >> If if required, yes. >> However, Miss Vigilante stated that she was representing Mr. Doyle and Mr. Pierllo.
>> Then I guess it's only two then, right? >> I guess it's only two so far. Now, does that >> I don't know of anybody else that's going to be using specification. >> Well, I'm not asking about the specifics of the pending litigation. Obviously, it's pending litigation. What I'm asking
about is the process of hiring somebody to represent two township committee members. And she is representing Mr. Fierella and Mr. Doyle. And Mr. F through you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Fel, you want representation from Miss Vigilante
in regards to talking about litigation? >> No, we're I'm asking if you want representation. I'm not in regard to open litigation. So, I'm not answering the question. >> You're not you're not answering whether you want representation or not. >> Are you going to vote to uh have
representation for yourself tonight? >> Is that a conflict? Are you voting to have representation for yourself tonight? >> It's not you. According to your solicitor, it's not a conflict. You can vote to have representation. Miss Vigilante will then represent whoever is
necessary. She could represent Mr. Finley if necessary. >> We're not she could >> I'll bet it is. So, we're not going to discuss who she's going to represent. We're only going to discuss that she's going to be paid 150% more than her
original contract. Uh, Miss Vigilante, has anybody on this committee or anybody hired on this committee once worked for Miss Vigilante? I guess you don't want to answer that one either, Matthew. Again, uh, I wonder who Miss Vigilante is being hired to protect. And I wonder
if the other township committee people can wave their rights or whether there's a conflict in only representing two township committee members. Not a good idea. Uh Mr. Marsh, I know you don't want to come talk about Did you represent Did you ask for
representation? >> No. Uh thank you. Mr. Kane, did you ask for representation? >> No comment. >> No comment. Thank you. I'll take that as a no. So we don't know who she's going to represent. We just know that she's going to be paid. And you're already being represented in this matter by
another law firm. Is that correct? >> That's correct. >> And that law firm was one provided by GIF. That's the insurance company. >> That is correct. >> And the insurance company pays for that. >> Well, I don't know about that. >> It's through GIF. Right. So GIF. And
again, I'm sure I'm sure knowing that firm's background and their relationship with Riker and Danzig and some of the Well, you can I told you read the stuff about Montlair, you'll really enjoy it. You'll see some names you recognize. >> I did just say some people just say no. I did Google it, but I didn't find
anything. >> Uh I I'll show you where you'll find some names near and dear to you in terms of how that might have been selected, but neither here nor there. The second thing I'd like to talk about is the second uh and the one right after that. That's uh 13425
and that's the hiring of Matt Madden. >> Correct. >> One of the many Maddens that we've hired as conflict solicitors over the years. Uh Mr. Madden is being hired uh from February uh of this year uh on onward. I guess
>> excuse me. >> When's when's his term of being hired? his term is being hired >> and also it was based on the R4624 resolution which hired Mr. Madden to begin with. Is that correct? >> Correct.
>> And did anything in that resolution specify a term of that contract? >> No, >> I don't. >> I don't know either. I don't see anything on there. >> I'm sure it's a year. >> Appendix A and B. Would that be available to the public? Matt.
>> Yeah, >> because there's no date on the original >> one year. >> Yeah. And to represent the township committee has voted on what Mr. Madden's duties were and will be or not.
>> Well, right now it's the the the going forward be the cases that he's working on the pool. I believe the church >> either of these are approving a certain they're setting up based on activity.
>> And that's the second conflict solicitor that we have. We already have one. He's our second conflict solicitor. Is that correct, Mr. Mayor? >> Yes. >> Okay. Fine. I I'll address the rest of it during the second public portion. I just would uh wonder I I truly would
wonder why a person not involved in the litigation would need his own attorney. Uh but again, that's up to you as uh as township committee and uh how you spend the taxpayers dollars is up to them to assess. Thank you for your time.
>> Thank you. >> Marshall, 67 new road. Some of my questions were just answered, but I talking with some other townships, I I'm having trouble quantifying or at least trying to identify why we need so many lawyers. Most townships have one lawyer that represents their township committee
for all needs. Why do we need three? And I just maybe I need to be enlightened. That's why I'm asking, [Music] >> but not for this type of thing. They they have it like for one like maybe for employee issues. I understand that you know they may have to be hired as needed
that's most >> okay so that's the reason why the reason I'm asking that I was asking them the same thing looking for educational taxpayer money >> I have nothing that can elaborate more because of the litigation
>> I'm not going to discuss this matter um uh and this is something that for my own curiosity I've spoken of nepatism and curism before is are anybody up there related to any of these solicitors being hired in any way >> I wish I was related to a lawyer right now I'm just asking me too
>> but that would be each one of you would know that he's related to No, >> no, I'm usually on the other side. My family's on the other side of that. >> Just wanted to make sure I swear just to find out.
>> Now, a lot of times we hire lawyers in the beginning of the year and we don't ever use them. >> If you pay them by the hour and you hire three lawyers >> and you're not using >> you're not using all three for the same thing. >> No, I understand. If it's nine hours work, what's the difference? You pay one
nine hours or three. Well, it's you hire all say you do hire three and go back to that example and use all three for the same piece then that's a lot of money. >> Well, we're not using all three for a second. >> I don't know that. That's one. Just look at the outside. Look at the insulation. [Music]
>> As again, as a taxpayer, of course, when our money is being spent, how can we find out what these cases are in relationship? Or is that something that's protected until there's, you know, >> that's something you can discuss tonight with me or no? >> Uh, we have other I'm not going to
discuss any litigation. I mean, broaders basis again the title you want to give him tonight on the direction that he speaks. No, I I I can't do that without potentially
interfering [Music] again. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. Can I get a motion to close the first public portion? >> Motion to close. >> Second. >> All those in favor? Hi. >> Hi.
>> All right. You ready? >> That's a lot of them. Making a motion to approve resolution R133 authorized extension and increase of authorized amount for Vigilante Law Firm for 2025 as previously authorized under R10 2025.
>> Motion R1 133. >> Second. >> Mr. Doyle. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Marsh. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 13425 approving contract for Matthew Madden Esquire of Madden and
Madden PA to act as conflict council. >> Motion R13425. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 13525 authorizing the
awarding of contracts for appraisal service for farmland preservation project block 2402 lot 17 and 18. Motion R1 13525. >> Second. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 13625 authorizing the CFO to petition the director of division of local government services for approval of a dedication by Ryer or revenue trust for accumulated absences
as per NJAC 53015. Motion R13625. >> Second, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 13725 authorizing the
issuance of bonds for capital purchase and pro projects in the total amount of $2,782,000. >> Motion R1 13725. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes.
Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 13825 authorizing the mayor to sign NJEDA approval letter for HDSF HDSRF grant for 724 Delta Drive, USA Gas
and authorizing administrative CFO to monitor expenditures and cleanup as conducted by Gibson and Stattle Environmental. >> Motion R1 13825. >> Second. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 13925 authorizing mayor to sign NJA approval letter for HTS RF grant for Carmen Avenue properties and authorize administrator and CFO to monitor expenditures and clean up as
conducted by Gibson and St Environmental. >> Motion R13925. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 14125 requesting
Division of Local Government Services to insert a special line item budget of revenue drunk driving enforcement fund. >> Mission R4125. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 14225 requesting division of local government service to insert a special line item budget of revenue drive sober or get pulled over. >> Motion R14225. >> Second.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Marsh. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 14325 requesting the division of local government services to insert a special line item budget of revenue municipal alliance fiscal year
26 grant >> motion R 14325 >> second >> yes >> yes >> yes >> yes >> yes resolution 14425 requesting division
of local government services to insert a special line item budget of revenue National Opioid Settlement Fund. Motion R1 14425. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 14525 requesting division of local government services to insert a special line item budget or revenue click it or ticket. >> Motion R14525. >> Second.
>> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 14625 authorizing tax collector and CFO to issue tax refunds for overpayment of taxes block 5072
lot 50.6 Six >> motion R 14625 >> second >> yes >> yes >> yes Mars >> yes >> yes resolution 14725 authorizing refund
payment and Mars for vendor table at Franklin Township community day >> motion R 14725 >> second >> yes >> yes >> yes >> yes Yes. Uh, resolution 148.25
authorizing the revision and updating of the Township of Franklin employee handbook to comply with MEL/JIFFIF recommendations. Effective date November 1st, 2025. >> Motion R 14825. >> Second.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> R. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 14925 authorizing the mayor and clerk to submit the requirement documentation for an additional three-month extension
request on the fiscal year 23 Williamstown Road project. >> Motion R14925. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. But what what's the delay again?
>> So this is from the DOT. They they hired an outside company to do their grants and every time CS in the packet has additional comments and send it back. >> This one's from 23, right? >> Well, we combined it because of the size
of down the road. Okay. Bridge there couple together. So we do a larger portion at one time and that's where we're getting the size. It probably changes as well to the store
>> cuz I see there's another one coming up too. >> 23 24. >> So hopefully they'll get the whole Williamstown road done >> by when? >> Yeah. 27 >> 27 28 Resolution 15025 authorizing mayor
administrator to sign exe and execute the full collective bargaining agreement with Acme Local 3574 which was ratified via MOU under R21024 motion R 1525 >> second
>> yes >> yes >> yes Marsh >> yes >> yes resolution 151 125 authorizing the mayor and clerk to sign and execute the contract for purchase of a 2025 E450
Elorado Advantage senior bus which was awarded to Frank awarded to Franklin Township in cooperation with a CTIP grant >> motion R 15125 >> second >> yes >> yes >> yes
>> yes >> yes resolution 15225 authorizing mayor clerk to submit the required documentation for an additional 3-month extension request on the fiscal year 24 Williamstown Road project. >> Motion R 15225. >> Second.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 15325 authorizes CFO to petition the director of division of local government services for approval of a dedication by Ryer revenue trust
for storm recovery as per NJSA 48621 >> question R15325 >> second >> yes >> Mr. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Resolution 15425 authorizing
division revision and updating of attachment Franklin employee personal manual to comply with Mel GIF recommendations. Effective date November 1st, 2025. >> Motion R 15425. >> Second. >> Yes. Mr.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Can I get a motion for the introduction of the following ordinances? The public hearing will be held on December 9th, 2025. First ordinance is ordinance 1225,
ordinance of the township of Franklin County, Gloucester State of New Jersey. Amend chapter 253 of the code of the Franklin Township to revise standards for specified residential dwellings consistent with recommendations contained within the 2024 plan
re-examination report undersized lots. All right. >> Motion O225. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> uh next one's ordinance 1325, ordinance of the township of Franklin County, Gloucester, state of New Jersey, amended
chapter 253 of the code of the Franklin Township to revise the general zoning provisions consistent with the recommendations contained within the 2024 master plan re-examination report under size lots. >> Motion O325.
Second. >> All those in favor? I. >> Ordinance 1425, Ordinance of the Township of Franklin County of Glouster, stated in New Jersey, amend chapter 253 of the code of Franklin Township to revise standards for specified accessory
use consistent with the recommendations contained within the 2024 master plan re-examination report accessory solar energy systems. >> Motion O425. Second. >> All those in favor? >> I.
>> Ordinance 1525 of the Township of Franklin County, Gloucester, State of New Jersey, amend chapter 253 of the code of Franklin Township to revise the permitted accessory uses in the business district consistent with the recommendations contained within the
2024 master plan re-examination report. Storage structures. >> Motion 01525. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> ordinance 1625, ordinance of the towns of Franklin County, Glouester, state of
New Jersey, amend chapter 253 of the code of the township of Franklin to revise standards for specified accessory uses consistent with the recommendations contained within the 2024 master plan re-examination report fences. >> Motion 1625.
>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Ordinance 1725. Ordinance to the Frank Township of Franklin County, Gloucester, state of New Jersey, amend chapter 253 of the code of Franklin Township to revise standards for specified
residential dwellings consistent with the recommendations contained within the 2024 master plan re-examination report under size lots FV. >> Motion O725. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I.
and 0825 ordinance of the towns for Franklin County of Gloucester, state of New Jersey, amend chapter 253 of the code of Franklin Township to revise standards for specified residential dwellings consistent with the recommendations contained within the 2024 master plan re-examination report
undersized lots and >> motion 0825. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. And again, the public hearing for those uh seven ordinances will be held on December 9th, 2025.
Can I get a motion? >> Is the close session in here? >> Yeah. >> Public and also committee reports because there will not be action. >> I missed it. >> I got it. I didn't read that resolution, did I?
>> No. No, >> you skipped it. >> Uh, second portion. >> Yes. Correct. Okay. A motion to open a second public portion for comments. >> Make a motion open second public portion. >> Second. All in favor? >> I.
>> I thought you were saying. >> Yeah, you should have said so. >> I thought you were mixing. I was going to, but I thought you were mixing it up. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. My name is Scott Brown and I am 149 old Marshall Mo. Um u couple
questions I have. Uh first thanks for the work of the park in Malaga. My handicap adult son is 20 years old. We use the park a lot. I just wanted to know is there a plan? The park has been made handicap accessible with all the equipment there but there's no handicap accessibility to get there. Is there a
plan for that to happen? Because I have to remove my son from the wheelchair to get him to the springs. Many times it happens. It is overlooked because it's not for brought to mind. But >> yeah, I mean I >> Brian, >> yeah, >> maybe put like uh some spots, some
handicap spots and then >> like a pathway >> like a pathway up to the equipment. >> It's a Yeah, exactly. I didn't know if that was maybe have a spot that it all comes out of. for that. >> Great job though and we use it a lot. Uh my second thing is is that I live as I
said on Old Martian which is a dead edge street. So I'm one acre surrounded by 11 acres of the Castellis farm and vineyard. So back there if you ever been back there it's 11 acres of grape from Greece and uh it's over 9 ton of grape that I produced uh from my house. So I
got quite a beautiful view. The only problem is um with this view is that old Dutch Railroad backs into my regress. Uh I'm a combat wounded, disabled, 100% service connected, very sick veteran and I have ambulances that have to come
sometimes to get me and they can't come down my dead end street because of what's happening um with u one particular property um on Old Dutch Mil. I've addressed it with the neighbors. I've addressed it. I know one time a couple years back we had the part-time
zoning officer. Um the issue is is they have fenced property. Um they have their trash cans outside which is in the rear of their property. I have sent 14 phone calls and 16 emails since 2024 to um u
our lady who Deanna uh who has gotten me really good and helped me who sent me pictures. I' I've tried to to discuss this with them, but the problem is is now um the there's a Sunday event. It looks like they hold church. They had a garage that I believe they asked the
township years ago for a permit. They were sort of denied. I'm from South Philly originally, so I don't know much about the rules. All I know is that there was a two-car garage that now is built a uh on Sundays anywhere between 60 and 90 people praise and worshiping in there. And Sunday I have the
pictures. There were 61 cars parked um between Old Dutch Mill and my regress um of Marshall Mill. Uh my oxygen was getting delivered on Sunday and the praise and worship people there told my oxygen guys to go around, but there's
nowhere to go around. Uh it's a dead end street uh old Marshall Mill. Matter of fact, people don't even know it exists back there because only me and the and the problem is is that they can't get down. The cars are blocking the the repress. I know that I've spoken to the other neighbors that live there. They're also
having the issues. I know our great police department is familiar with old Dutch Mill. There's many issues. There's an empty lot there next to the uh family dollar that's currently for sale. The owner lives up in Wisconsin. There's actually a lady living in a tent with
her dog there. Uh she's now got two tents as of today. Uh the other night there was a brutal argument fight. She was pretty beat up, pretty bad. Um, in the last four weeks, my wife and I have collected a total of 44 trash bags full of trash from just that area. Needles,
bottles. Um, I have all the pictures of proof, all the things. The problem is is that the the the function of this church now blocks, like I said, the regress blocks the only way that I have in or out of my dead end uh medically. Um, our trash system actually has to back up
because of their stuff as well. have to back up to get to my trash cans at 10 or 6 on Wednesday morning. Feed feed feed feed, but that's another point. Um, the other issue is that I know I was here originally when the other Dollar General, but the family dollar I've
written corporate their fence is broken. They have about 12 or 14 cats right now that the employees are feeding on our uh property. The trash that comes from there uh just in that little swell uh we had three bags of trash today. They just
now picking up. There's homeless people encampments back there uh in their trash in their trash birgo uh which blocks their dumpsters. Uh it's like a tent village and uh I've written corporate I've written as I said uh many times and
I just I I think now because of my health it's really become a safety issue if an ambulance can't get through. Uh and u you know I' I've addressed it with them. I told them I was coming here today. I told you this morning that I was picking up the crash in the street that I was coming. It has something has to be done because um God forbid if I
you know I'm really sick and I they can't get down and it's all back from u their street onto our old Marshall. Many people don't even know exist back there is a secret treasure. It's beautiful.
>> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. And I appreciate it. >> Thank you. Thanks for your service. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Elena Sling and I am the administrative street uh in the village. Um I appreciate the fact that you guys are
doing um some work. I'll look up what the recommendations are for those 2024 master plan. Um my parents will be inheriting the property and uh we have moved there in preparation of taking care of them. My
daughter has mentioned our mother is 80 with disabilities from uh polio. We have83 acres and we are not able to add a bedroom to a 1,000 ft home. I I was I we didn't realize if I had done this six months ago, I would have
started the variance process back then or found where I didn't find out till we submitted all of the paperwork for all of the permits and the next day found out that we could not do it. Um and variance of course will take us to next year. Won't be able to go till spring
public hearing on these um on this ordinance changes. If you're not having a public hearing until December 5th again, I'm not going to be able to go till spring. I we have to find some other residences situations uh for the winter. Um so while I
appreciate that you guys are are looking at this for the underserved lot now we have probably the largest lot other than the fire uh in that area. Um so we don't have a curve problem. We want to put an intercept. uh is there any way that we can get some
kind of expedition in order to be able to better care for uh our parents and uh or is there is there a path forward where something can be done sooner than >> Matt or has to go
back >> but that's too early so we can change take the same amount of time >> and the zoning >> variance would probably take longer because that would cost >> the zone the zoning >> zoning. >> But that's what that's 60 days. It
should be 60 days, right? >> Well, you got a notice. >> By the time you do everything, it would be two months probably. >> Correct. By the time you submit complete application, the professionals have 45 days back to review and then it will be scheduled for meeting
time to do the 10day notice. So this this these ordinances if they are passed by the planning board they go effect they go into effect immediately the day after meeting. So that is the most
process for this. If they are >> there's this procedure there's no way even >> I know I spoke to Chase he was informed about the meeting we're new residents to the area so we're good
>> I think the slowest thing is going to be your septic if you're going to >> Oh that's already been approved >> okay good cuz that takes I have contractors lined up, >> right? >> I probably lose the contractor for the house. >> Um, she's ready to start by the end of the month. Uh, but if I wait two months,
she's going to have another, you know, check. So, and and so this was just a surprise. When I had come in months ago and talked to the girls in the office, nobody said, "Oh, by the way, you have to have a one minute or by the way, you have to 125 books uh free lunch." And I
actually don't have a problem with either of those when it comes to new new lots. Okay? Someone wants to take a a farm and a quarter and quarter acre lots. I hope you don't accept the barriers. Okay? I had I used to live in a township that did, you know, we all
voted county meeting, a township meeting, we all voted no, we want one acre minimum. What do they do? Next thing we know, a farm sells and it's all quarter acre county. So, I I appreciate the 1acre concept, but not having a way to get around it
with a grandfathering procedure or something like that, saying the lots that can't be increased. The only way it could be increases if you take away the paper road and we can buy something, you know, cuz we do back up on Hill Street. Well, it's not there's nothing
there. Hill Street's between Ar and >> it'll be a time. So, you know, I just my timing is off. >> So, unfortunately, >> I just want my frustration. >> I don't think it would take the
professionals 45 days to review your application. >> It is 45 days. >> Yes, they have to. >> I don't think they would take that long. >> And it's $1,500 approximately in fees plus all the other research that has to be done. Unfortunately, I do what a
minister when he came out. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for coming out. >> Hey, gentlemen. Harry Kennedy, 1578 Fresno Road. Uh back to that Madden uh resolution uh that was first passed in
2024. Uh there have been problems with that uh resolution I think from the beginning. uh an RFP was put out in uh November of 2023 and you signed a
contract in 2024 for Madden to represent you as a conflict attorney and he represented you with the Littlest Angel. I guess that means that Mr. Lions had a conflict with the the Littlest Angel. But secondarily, how did Mr. Lions begin working on the
Littlest Angel in 2023 when no RFP had been submitted and the work had begun before any of the legal work had been done. It seems like we do a lot of expos legal work here. Uh a lot
of after the fact and covering up and taking care of problems that we've created with our own hands. And uh again, I I'd like to compliment the township committee on two things. I honestly believe that the mayor tried to
work out this problem before it ever got to litigation. That he talked to some of the principles involved at with the littlest danger. and that there were ways to avoid over $50,000 being spent in legal fees to keep a Christian
bookstore from being allowed in Franklin Township. And that could have been done a lot of ways, but the mayor's suggestion wasn't followed by the administrator or the solicitor. They decided that it was better to
pursue legal action. And again, I would suggest that again, you guys are the ones running the show, not me. And I trust your judgment. And I honestly believe that there are three competent people sitting on the township committee. And there are also three honest people. They might might be one
and the same, but there are at least three honest people sitting up there. Why would you let the tail wag the dog all the time? Why wouldn't you exercise control over what legal action is taking
place? And why do you not give approval before it happens? You cannot have an attorney out there performing a legal action as a conflict attorney unless Mr. Lions told you what the conflict was before a contract was even signed,
before an RFP was even issued. And then secondarily, how can you have him continuing to act after the RFP has expired? And I don't know what you uh thought about in 2023, but Mr. Madden is representing you on
the Arbuckle matter. I don't know how Mr. Madden knew about the Arbuckle matter in 2023 unless you guys were secretly carrying on negotiations in terms of what you were doing with the redevelopment zone because you said that it all stopped. But again, Mr. Madden is
representing you with Mr. Arbuckle in terms of providing egress to Route 40. These legal matters are stupid wastes of the taxpayers's money. It's like the stupid waste that goes through the zoning board process of all the reviews
and all the things that have to be done that benefit the lawyer and the engineer. But finally, I'd like to say something nice again tonight. It was great to see the award given to the officer by the police department. And I
know Mr. Marsh's long-term commitment to the Franklin Township Police Department. I've known every chief of police from the beginning of the formation of the Franklin Township Police Department up until the present time. I don't know if
you know how lucky we are. You only have to look at our neighbors to the south to watch the most dysfunctional moronic group of people operate on the face of the earth. people with soda farms, people taking gas from the gas pump,
people using the police car to go to their son's meets. It happened time after time, a slap on the wrist for uh somebody that was involved in the process of doing something that some people might have considered a felony. That was a matter of opinion. But here
in Franklin Township, there was a former chief of police that once said, and I'm going to quote him exactly, there are two types of cops. Two types of cops are the ones that grew up. One of them stole your lunch money and the other one had
their lunch money stolen. I think there's a third type of cop. I think the third type exists in Franklin Township. The third type of cop is the one that steps up and does what's right when he sees somebody else's lunch money being stolen. We're lucky. We're blessed to
have such a wonderful police department. And if you want to know how good it is, just take a look to the crap on the right. Thank you. >> Mike, you're on my right. Mike's on my right. I just have a question about the podium
is almost complet. >> You're on my right, Matt. >> The podium that we had up here prior to the microphone. Is that restoration almost complete? Is that coming back soon? >> It's got to be done. You just got to coordinate it with the court and all that because it's probably going to take a day or two from the court. Is that the
reason why it was ruded? So he >> Well, initially that uh the what was it the the judges or whatever they told us we couldn't we couldn't do it but then they I guess when Armano got attacked they changed their mind
>> and that's from the court side but even for this side it still was the same or you just got carried into this side you know from the committee meetings not having the movement here. No, I mean we kind of thought it would happen quicker than what it did and that thing was falling apart. >> Oh, no. I know it was it was rough, but
I'm just I was thinking of the woman that was up here during the little angel discussion. She couldn't even stand here and hold her papers. Someone man out in the audience that help her. I mean, it's just we need to get something up here that said, you know, to help people. I mean, >> I don't think we still have it. We throw it out,
>> but we kind of figured that the wall and all be put up and it would be place to rest your stuff. Does it have to go up with contract? Could it go to IP and get >> I mean >> I just wonder, you know, just >> it just seems kind of odd. >> The A has certain
>> Yeah, the AOC said we couldn't fix our own courtroom up. >> I understand where they be anchored or different. >> They're they're the ones that told us we couldn't fix our own courtroom up. So, I don't know. >> I know. Back to the the litigation side
and I'm not sure of everything that was said tonight. I'll do some research on that side, but if that if that is the case and we're having decisions made without who was voted in to represent us, that needs to change. Uh that needs to happen immediately underneath. There needs to be some backbone that starts that stops. I hope that's the case.
>> Yeah, I I I believe it was more or less an oversight, but I I agree with you. It should be corrected. >> I appreciate that. After all this, maybe we can bring back the notary, too. No, one step at a time. Get your hopes up.
notary. >> Uh, back to resolution. >> I will go into close first, Matt. >> Close public session. >> Well, do the resolution first, right? >> Yeah. >> Close the public.
I would recommend before close session. >> Okay. >> Close session is I would estimate. Jesus, I want to eat tonight. Can I get a motion to close the second public portion? >> Motion to close second public. >> Motion.
Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I committee reports start with you, Mr. Keem. >> No report. >> That was an easy one. Mr. Doyle, no report either. >> Mr.
more. >> Uh, the library has their annual book sale this Saturday coming up. They're saying it's going to be the biggest one ever. So, if you're in the public, check it out. >> Thank you, Mr. Marsh. >> Uh, just quick recap of uh Frank Community Day was a huge success again
this year. Great weather, great planning by the U recreation committee. Hats off to them and um another successful year for the community day. >> Thank you. As usual, Mike took my thunder. Uh, Halloween will be on
Halloween, correct? >> It's not always, but this year will be on >> Friday the 31st >> till 7, isn't it? >> So, be careful out there. There's going to be lots of kids running around.
Other than that, now resolution. We have a resolution uh resolution 15525 authorizing township committee to enter into close session due to pending litigation. >> Motion R1
>> specifically may affordable housing >> specifically our affordable housing obligation litigation. Second >> all Matt. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yeah.
>> Yes. >> No. Yes. >> And there will not be action. >> There will be no action taken. >> Other than adjourning. So, >> can I get a motion to enter close session?
>> Motion to enter close session. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I need a motion to come out of close session. Make a motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Can I get a motion to reopen a public portion or public meeting?
>> Make a motion to open a meeting again. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Can I get a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Told you, Johnny, you could have left. [Music]