Ready. Okay, it's 7:00. I call zing board. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> Okay. Pursuant to the open public meeting act, the South Jersey Times and the Sentinel were notified of this meeting. It was posted in the municipal building and also on the township website. >> Mr.
Mr. Leo, >> Mr. Ketchum >> here, >> Mr. >> here, >> Mr. Mr. >> here, >> Mr. Mr. Kevin
>> here. >> Okay. In the absence of Mr. Gana will seat handy. >> Thank you. >> Uh for the public, all three applications are use variances.
That requires five affirmative votes. You see, we only have five people here. So I I guess we give the option if they want to continue to next month if you decide not to move forward your application tonight because you need
five affirmative votes. >> Good. Tara. >> Yes sir. >> Mr. Mr. Falsiani, you're good. And you're okay. All right. Uh, minutes of the previous meeting, gentlemen. There a motion to approve. >> Make a motion to approve. >> A motion by Dana,
>> second by Mike Garpull. All in favor? >> Opposed? >> Extensions. >> All right. First on the agenda tonight is ZB25-03 named Bill. Would you please come forward? Um, on behalf of Anthony Dillard, Mr.
Dillard is here because he constructed a >> How about we swear Mr. Dillard? Just raise your right hand, please. You swear to tell the truth about the testimony you're going to get. I do. >> Name and address, please. >> Senior 156 Stephan Drive, Franklin 32.
>> Okay. This application concerns that property 156 drive and Mr. Dillard constructed a we're going to call it a New York shed or pool house on his property um alongside here. You'll the survey is
in your packet and um and a open porch also sometimes called for death and uh he needs to get right the zoning for that because um zoning has decided that
this is not a permitted excessive use. Now I'm trying to take issue with that. I think whether you pull a pool house or a shed or whatever it's connected to residential use of the house that's normal. So in my opinion, we don't
really need to use variance. So I have asked for an interpretation about whether the use variance is needed. If it's not needed, we'll just move on to the other variances for setbacks. And if it is needed, I'm asking for a use.
So um >> so if our professionals both say we need to use variance >> yes very >> so I I think we're going to side with our professionals >> as I
let's move on >> yes um so this shed is needs some variances um it is okay here's another issue In the RA zone, there are no setbacks
listed, but it says restructured. Some of the other zones we have in town, we have setbacks listed. This does not. Therefore, the normal thing that happens is whatever the settings are for the
primary structure get applied to an accessory structure as well. So right now the way it stands, let me get that out. He would need
a side yard set back of um 20 ft whereas he has 4.9 right now where it's sitting and he needs a rear yard set back of 50
ft whereas he has 33 ft. Thank you. >> So, which one of those structures is that? So, >> so it's this. >> Where's the 4.9? >> 4.9 is this back corner here. >> Uh,
okay. Oh, here's the north arrow. Okay. So the south west corner of this shed is 4.9 ft off of the actual property line and the north west corner is 7 ft off of
the property line. So you can see uh so that's the sideyard set and here we are 50 ft. This is 33 ft and 52. Um there are some other structures on
this property which Mr. Dillard had previously obtained um permits for. In 200 five, he got a permit for what is called
a shed parentheses garage. And that is if I'm looking at the plan. The main house is here. Then there's a shed here. Let's see. This is that thing that's called a shed/ garage.
So that was in 2005. And in 2014, he received permits for the patio, pool, fencing, garage, second floor, residential use edition. I don't know what that means exactly, but that's so he has he has
permits for all the other stuff. This is the only thing right now that we're looking at, and that was built without getting a permit ahead of time. So, um, basically that's what we're asking for.
Now, um, Mr. Billard, I'd like to have you tell you called it a pool house or it says flame shed. You certainly don't call it a flame shed. Can you, uh, tell the board what are you using naturally for? Um, so you have a room, you have one room
set up for chemicals, cool chemicals. You have a larger area set up for storage in the offse. And then you have a 15 by 10 that's set up as a changing area.
>> Okay. And there were some photographs submitted with the transportation that um I like you to look at in your in your packet. And I mean I think you can say
in general that um Mr. Dillard has a very um nice neat operation there. The first photo that I called A1 um shows the structure sort of headon looking across the pool.
So you can see this the structure and then you can see the deck or open porch that's attached to it. >> This is the A1. This is the color one or the A1. >> We got that. We have it. Okay. >> Everybody.
Okay. And so you can see that. So that's that's that's the subject of tonight's application. Can we leave this here? The second photo is from Stephanie Drive looking into the property and you the
trees do a good job of screening this. You can't really see it that well, but it's on the right hand side. You can see like a white fence and you can see a structure back there. So, um my contention is is that this is not, you
know, looking like an eyesore in the neighborhood. Um there it is. And the third photograph, photo A3, is from the eastern property line looking across over the pool to to that
frame shed. And you can also see the um kitchen out the outer kitchen that we've got there on the left side in that photo. And the last photograph is a picture from that's
showing the back foot garage structure looking southward from the garage in front of the garage area back into the backyard. So, um, >> is that a garage? Is what is that?
>> What are you using that for? Uh that was a garage that was put up for um working on automobiles. >> Do you currently work on automobiles there? >> No, not I I will be soon but not at this time.
>> Okay. Well, it has it has permits on 2005 >> for for working on automobiles. >> It's still older for the structure. mean you work on personal automobiles, >> right?
>> Yeah. What is that? What is that? >> Um that at that time there's another there this zoning permit. There's another one out or uh addition that I wanted to do uh removing the garage and adding the second floor to that as well
as I think there was one on the back of the house. >> It's not done, >> right? Now, Mr. Dillard, um, how long have you been working now in the neighborhood? >> Uh, 23 years.
>> And during that time, have you had a chance to get to know the neighbors on both sides? >> Uh, yeah, I know pretty much everyone in the neighborhood. >> Okay. Um,
now he did send me this letter from Philip Ritz, who's a neighbor on on one side of you, which I guess is the east side of you. And how did you come to get this letter? Was he here this evening, by the way?
>> He's on vacation. >> Okay. So, um, I wanted to just offer this, read this into the record that This blame on letter coming in
>> just to be here. So like question is there enough for them to consider it a part of their decision making? >> Okay. Mr. Miller had a Mr. Miller. Did you have a conversation with Mr. Riss?
>> Yes. No. And does this writing represent what your conversation was? >> Yes. >> With him? >> Yes. >> Well, in l of uh if you're if we're not going to present the letter, why don't you tell the board the content of your personal conversation with your
neighbor? Um basically, he was saying uh he was fine with the structure. Uh he um appreciate me maintaining the house and taking care of the house. He appreciated me looking after his house when he was on vacation and he works nights. Um, and
he said basically I was nothing but neighborly. You know, he had no concerns. >> Now, Mr. Dillard, um, you have this structure in your backyard. Uh, as far as we talk about what is going on in the
community around you, are you aware of anyone else that has this has accessory structures in their backyards in your immediate vicinity? >> Um, I do believe there a couple people
have certain structures. Yes. >> Yeah. I mean, that's fine. They have accessory structures, but did they get variances when they needed to get variances? Do they have permits when they built it? I think that's really what's a question.
>> Just just the point being that it's natural. Whether they got permits or not, I would. >> All right. We're going to hand this over to our engineer, Dave. What do you have any comments? You want to go through your technical comments? >> So, we did a Thank you, chairman, and
board members. did our latest letter was April 18, 2025 um record in complete. We identify the same uh use variance sideyard setback and rear yard setback to be considered by the board. In my first comment, um I
asked for architectural plans and sketches of both structure including the plan or elevation use should be provided. Plan shall depict the height of the structure and the interior use. So, we kind of had a little bit of testimony. What's on the inside? Um, is
there plumbing on the inside? Bathrooms on the inside? >> No. >> So, it's no plumbing, no bathroom. Electric in there. >> Uh, it will >> What's the height of the structure? >> 14 ft. >> 14 ft to where? >> To the peak.
>> 14T. If >> that's correct, that meets our ordinance. So, um, I noticed something. The survey I have that was submitted in June 2025 does not match the survey that you have
on the board. So, >> what doesn't match? >> There is the structure shows that there's a shipping container in the middle of the yard. Is that still there? Uh, that is containers are right behind here. So shipping containers are not
permitted. They're not structures. They're temporary in nature. It shouldn't be there. We by no means that this is approved. Are we improving the shipping container in the yard? Um it's just curious that it's it's shown in our thought.
>> What do you use the shipping container for? >> Uh tools. There's tools in Okay. >> Yeah. >> I'm not sure what the difference is, but it's been there for quite some time.
>> And how long's the frame shed for the pool house that we're talking about tonight? >> Um, >> December. >> December of this year. >> December of last year. >> I'm sorry. There is no December. >> Right. Correct. >> December 2021.
>> Correct. >> Um I really don't have anything else. Use of wall of the pool house and the rear and the side. >> Okay. >> Should we open up to the public? >> I make a motion we open to the public.
>> Second by D. Second by Mike Polo. All in favor? I opposed. Anybody from the public like to be heard regarding this application? If so, please come forward. Nobody. >> I make a motion we close the public portion. >> Motion to close by Dana. Second. Second
by Michael. >> All in favor? >> I post not. >> Mike, there's a couple questions. Uh, it's a pavilion. Yes. >> Uh, yes.
>> Right here. the dental buildings like you're describing something else you're using now for storage. >> I I need most of it for storage. Yes. Between the So there's furniture here
and all around the pool. I most of it is definitely store. It's going to be fun or anything that we're talking about. >> Which one are you talking about, Mike? What? >> Talking about the pool. The pool house.
>> Full house. What What have you gotten permits for from the town? >> Well, when I applied it, I had to go back to zone. But I >> Now, what structures there? Everything except for that. >> Everything but the pool house and the
deck. Is that >> No, I don't. Everything except for the pool house itself. Yes. >> Right. The pool house you you built and didn't have any permits for. >> Correct. >> Yeah. Other structures
>> and the and the uh and the container. You don't have any cuz that's not handle to have there anyway. >> I I was unaware. It's been there like it's been there a very long time. So I I was unaware. It's sitting on railroads but it it's
been there quite some time. Either remove it or apply for it. Not tonight. You're not able to go. You have to either remove it or remove or get it. If you wanted to remove it then
>> that's fine. >> That that's fine. >> Which one what >> removing is fine. >> Oh okay. >> So So Mr. Chairman the um 2005 application was Z05-423.
That was the permit for that garage structure. And um the permit for the other thing, pool, fence, all the stuff is 2014 0249.0000. That's half of it.
My next question is the fireplace. Nobody else is in the New York City. >> No, it's just me. There's a nice pool place. Yeah, we should distinguish it from the living something. It's not a living not
a living storage and >> all right. So, we need we needed we needed a variance for the rear yard, sideyard, and unit use variance for the they're the three things we need to make. Right. >> And you're going to remove the the uh the container.
>> Yes. >> And Yeah. And well, let's see if there's a motion. Is there a motion or any more questions? >> I'd make a motion we approve the variance. >> I'll second it. Any any stipulations about getting it >> uh get rid of the uh container shipping
container? >> How about getting it inspected >> and get the proper permits and inspecting? >> They have them. They just can't do anything until um >> you we approve it, >> right? Okay. You want to give them a nice time frame
to be able to get, you know, get that container out of there. You know, something that's fair six months. >> That's more than enough time, I would think. Yes, >> that's fine. >> Okay. Motion by Dana. >> Second. Second by Mike or >> Chrissy.
>> Mr. >> Um, yes. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. Mr. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> My agenda.
Okay. Okay, next on our agenda, ZB25-10 in the name of Jeremy Alyssa Light. Mike, everything in order? >> Yes. >> Hi, my name is Nathan Benjamin. I'm an attorney in Milville, New Jersey, and I represent Lissa Lighter, who's the
contract purchaser of property collection. We'll swear you in. Raise your right hand, please. You swear to tell the truth about the testimony you're going to give. >> Yes. >> Your name and address, please. >> Alyssa Lightmire, 437 East Barber at Woodberry. >> Try to speak into the microphone if you don't mind.
>> Again, Alyssa Lightmire, 437 East Barber A, Woodbury. Ladies and gentlemen, my application is kind of a bank and forgiveness uh application as opposed to have permission. My client is the contract purchase of a property and
um Wilmer Cotch is the seller and the property is beautifully maintained and damaged but historically it was given variance approval for a single mother-in-law apartment and um over the course of time somehow two one-bedroom mother-in-law apartments were installed
in the property and uh no permits were taken no uh permissions were granted for the second unit. Um certainly the applicant lose his way to the zoning board with the first part. Um but
we've come to you with clean hands. We didn't do it. But nevertheless, we are asking that uh the u board to uh approve what's there recognize that it's functioned well for
20 years. septic well parking utility of the property. It's incredibly well managed. Uh but we're asking for the for the approval of the variance so that we can continue and finish the purchase and we propose to encumber the property with
restriction. It says what should have been done in the first place that this property may not be used as a commercial rental. It's got to be restricted to family use. The intention is that uh Alyssa and her husband and two children
will move into the main house and her grandmother sister will take on one of the units and her mother-in-law will take on the other. And this has the salutary purpose of giving them babys. Um we received
uh Mr. Shid's uh uh review and uh we tried to comply with it and gave it a specific detailed floor plan along with the survey and um identified where what the states is what the I uh circumstances are now so that they can
be established and we proposed language for a restrictive deed which would u memorialize an approval if that was your um that we were so fortunate to get Um I have pictures which is part of the
application part of the package already. It was showed above the I think you can you can see it's pretty uh wellmaintained. Uh you can see that the uh house has a couple of entrances from um what's that road?
>> Reed Reed Avenue. Okay. So, one goes right to the garage, but the other goes along the the side and comes in around the back, and that feeds into the large parking area, the rear of the property, which is where the addition of the single mother-in-law apartment was
installed. There's a mother-in-law apartment on the second floor of the main house, and a mother-in-law apartment on the Lshape coming off the back. >> And the second floor one was already approved. >> Which one wasn't approved? I think that the one was approved. I don't know how
you could sneak in L-shaped edition without somebody noticing, but somehow that happened. >> And that's attached to the house as well. >> It has its own entrance, I would assume. >> Very nice entrance. Parking right to the door. Um, it's like
a an out coat and and protected. Uh, it's you can see This is the entrance right here. The back entrance to the main house. And then this is a separate entrance to the upstairs.
>> So, how many bedrooms total are there with with all the >> apartments? >> What? >> Four, one, and one. Four the main house, one three for the main house, one state, three for the main house, one bedroom for one mother-in-law, one bedroom for
another law. So a total of five have So that would have something the septic would would the county would >> Exactly. >> would have to approve that, right? Cuz that's a they do it by bedrooms, correct? The size. We're working on
that. We're working on >> if they don't if the county doesn't know about the extra vet separate. So that's something that's that needs to be addressed, but that's kind of separate than our duties to see. That's the county board of health. And yes, it goes
by vendor count or it goes by unit count because these are technically standalone units. Especially this one we're talking about. See, this this L-shaped one is attached to the house, but it has its own very separate entrance and it seems
like it's uh a little more separate than the original one that the original one that was approved has elevator plants that takes you from the main house to the second floor in there. It's also a set of steps. So, that's really
connected to the house like in level. This one has the main access is obviously the outside. what we're talking about tonight. It's kind of a more like a standalone park, although there might be a little bit of addition inside. >> It looks like according to
>> there is this looks like there's a secondary entry to a closet or something, but the primary entrance is obviously across that cover porch and from that parking area. >> The L-shaped one. >> The Lin Avenue. >> Yes. Okay. I will swear you on you.
Raise your right hand, please. You swear to tell the truth about testing, you're going to get name and address, please. >> Mark 98. >> You're just a neighbor, you're saying? >> Yeah. >> Grandfather. >> Oh, you're the grandfather. >> So, it's truly a family.
>> And the county the health notice about what's going on. We want everything to be above board. You know, he knows we want to have everything going in problem. >> And there is an entrance from the main house into the walk
>> and an outside entrance as well. >> Exactly. >> And the other one has an entrance just by way of an elevator >> and an outside step. >> And outside. >> Okay. >> We're just trying to do it the right way. in all this stuff. What's the
status of the county in the county? We just had the set tested and we were ready for clear awareness. Oh, they're aware of the I went there myself. >> Well, you might Dave, you might
as well continue on with your report if there's anything else. So, I guess the application tonight is for a use variance for another dwelling unit in addition to the two that were previously approved. Um, there's some existing nonformities in this zone. You're supposed to be an acre and a half, but
this is 69 acres. Um, there's also a density variance associated with this. You're allowed to have 04 dwelling units per acre, which is a one dwelling unit for 2.5 acres, which means with the three dwelling units, you're supposed to
have 7.5 acres. So, there's a density you need to granted a density also. Um, >> bro, a nice little chart that you usually have to put. >> I wrote it out for you. >> That chart is very handy.
And um there's also an existing non-conformity uh for front for lot width for street frontage as we call it in our ordinance you have 120 ft and um 150 ft is required
and there's an existing non setback um to the structure off the road 75 ft is required and 46 ft is existing. So those both the lot frontage and the lot um central or setback they're not
aggravated by this application. So everybody need those varants for that identify it as part of the uh resolution but definitely you need to grant a new variance and the density variance for this.
to the United was taken out as a family room. That's what we're trying to >> I'm going to get I'm going to guess that this didn't get picked up by the township because the the owner was a
exempt from military. None wasn't acting to maybe assess improvements or that that was a guess because they weren't getting income straight but they certainly will now. We don't need to worry about the frontage, Dave, you're saying because
it's >> Well, like like this reason I think because they're adding there, they're adding that significant structure already. >> Okay. So they need to get the variance for the
front yard setback >> and frontage. >> Two things >> the frontage >> and the setback >> and the setback as well.
>> Are frontage Okay. All right. Want to open to the public? >> Make a motion to open up to the public. >> I make a motion we open the public. >> Second it. >> Motion by Dana Desri. Second by Mike Carpool. All in favor? I oppose. Anybody
here from the public like to be heard regarding this application? Motion to close. >> I make a motion we close. >> Second. >> Motion and second. All in favor? I opposed. Extensions. >> Okay.
>> No, I'm just saying you're there. I'm just trying to get these variances because I only have four. You said I heard you say five. What's the fifth? I just I was just saying the paragraph number five concern is concern I think very good
application for treatment I get positive impressions from these people concern is they're not there some of what this So I know they proposed the young people but um my concern is using the word
family definition if the board right now mother understand they are generally an older generation of the family there talking about you just put the word family in then it can be the holiday
nephew and buddy and and whoever. So people do take advantage of this. So I'm hating to see some future owner um take advantage of work. I would say if you're applying for granted, we need to tighten that up. >> How would you tighten that up? >> Yeah. How do we tighten that up?
>> Well, it's only going to be insin-laws for immediate families. You need parents. I'm already talking I mean I'm trying I agree with you and that's always been a case that's always been a problem but I guess we go back to the
glass case involving college uh housing and they of course said you can't define it as family uh you can't restrict it to a family unit could be a unit but housing this is different but how would
you define the occupants in the family um definition outside of the word family. If I say immediate, does that add any more clarity? >> Um, unless we actually find those type of wide open seen those issues before
actually had them, you know, cousin has five in I don't think it maybe >> I think that's a good idea. That's >> beyond you. two attorneys could tighten it up somehow
>> and I'll I'll craft it with our discussion. So I I agree. I I I understand what you're getting at how to do it. >> Okay. >> You'll figure it out. >> Okay. We heard the testimony. Is there
>> I'd like to make a motion to approve the How many variants are there? >> There's five. Five variance density frontage front yard set back >> and to include some sort of deed restriction for family whichever whatever you come up with.
>> Okay. Motion by uh Cesar. >> I'll second that. Move second by Mike Garo. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Mr. >> Yes. >> Yes. Mr.
>> Yes. Okay, next on our agenda, ZB25-16, the name of Neil Fosian. >> Neil, while you're up there, the mouse of prayer, you win. Raise your right hand, please. Swear to tell the truth about the testimony you're going to give. >> Yes. Name and address, please. >> 541,
541. >> Are you going to be giving testimony? >> Raise your right hand, please. You swear to tell the truth about the testimony you're going to get. >> Yes. >> Name and address, please. >> Emily, Pauly, 541. >> Thank you, Mike. Everything notices in
U. This application involves two two lots that are adjacent to each other. Um the party highway along this side and Morris Avenue this way. And Mr. Pauliani
has two companies that he controls which own these two lots which I have colorized. The blue lot is um the wraps around the back of the green lot. So this is one lot now. this big
tree here and this is the Walmart here. These were created when Malaga Lake was flatted out. And um since that time and there has also been Nico Street was
here was vacated here and some of that became absorbed by these properties. So this is what we have today. What was on the green lot, it's
shown as as lot number eight. There was a house on there, but some less than 10 years ago that the house was demolished without realizing that they had to maybe preserve their right to have a house there um because
that is now an undersized lot. As a matter of fact, both of these lots are undersized for the current zoning requirements. But what what Mr. is proposing to do is to take the portion that is to the rear of the green
lot this square here, cut it off of his lot which which uh faces Harding Highway and add it to the rear of the lot which faces onto Morris Avenue thereby
increasing that lot. and he wants this is a commercial zone. So he wants this to be a used for residential. There's no active construction proposed right at this moment, but um it's highway
commercial zone and he wants to be able to use that lot as a residential lot and put another house a house on it. to the east is his aunt and she has as we had
indicated in the application when Pico Street got vacated she said I don't want my half of Pico Street that would come to me you can have it however I want to be able to continue to use it while I'm
living there so there is a reported deed restriction that allows and Carol to use what was formerly Pico Street where she currently has a dirt driveway um to get to her house, but that will eventually disappear when she leaves
town. >> Is that 148 Morris you're referencing? >> Um >> the next basically has like a horseshoe, right? for her to drive it around back of the house for her. So she can pull around
rather than backing around. >> So uh we have several variances for each. Um the first thing is use varants because we want to continue to use both of these lots as commercial as
residential lots but they're in a commercial zone. And by loop by reducing the size of the new lot that faces Harden Highway, we're now intensifying the nonconformity of it. So that that needs to be used
variance for that as well. Um there is also the situation where the zone requires um 1.5 acres and either one of these will be 1.5 acres. One will
be.973 acres and one will be 671 acres. We have a frontage issue. The minimum lot on lot 8. Again, it's actually gotten wider as a result of Pico Street being vacated when that was done, which
was maybe about 5 to 10 years ago. Um, so it's now about 130 and I think it has to have 150. So there's there's a small permit variance required on that. the other one in our 2000
street that is all that's all the bearings. So, um pretty straightforward. I think if you um think about what's going on in the
neighborhood there, he's trying his best to make this a lot bigger so it'll be more conforming to the size required in the zone. And as you look at it, it's it's a good planning move, too. It's just a straight shot back now. No
questions about having something wrapping around the back. >> And there were always residential homes there, >> right? And that particular lot that you have in green, it was much smaller. >> It was much smaller, Mr. Chairman. It was basically 80 by 100.
>> And there was a house on that. >> And there was a house on that. That'll be 130 by 100. So it has Oh, no. It'll be 13 wide by 225.
I think it fits the character of the neighbor. And um >> Dave, you got your nice chart on this one. >> So yeah, you did you did a report Dave September second and we have a chart on page two that identifies that both 8 and 9 use variance for residential and
highway commercial zone. So lots eight and nine needs lot area variances and lot eight needs a lot front straightforward Morris Avenue has got a lot of house on it. Unlikely this going
to be a viable >> use on on this type of a lot. So fairly reasonable. >> Thank you. Is there a motion to open up to the public? >> Make that motion. Motion by Danny
Deesbury. Second. Second by Mike Garpolo. All in favor? I posted extensions. Anybody from the public like to be heard? >> If so, come forward, please. >> Raise your right hand, please. You swear to tell the truth about the testimony you're going to get. >> Yes. >> Name and address, please.
>> Uh Darren Kramer, 143. I really just came out to I didn't know what was going on, so I got the letter in the mail. Wanted to check it out. Uh just a little background on me and my wife. Um we bought 143 Morris in 2022.
Um it's pretty relaxed house. Um the whole thing was neglected. So, we got it and we're renovating it and uh getting it all up to speed and um and so, you know, we're not real estate investors or anything. That's our home move here. Um
so, um you know, I just uh in the process of um renovating our house, we really come into a lot of flooding issues. Um, we probably spent about
$8,000 on uh French drains, window wells, some pumps to deal with it. Um, and so, you know, um, I know that there was a house on the floor and everything, but uh, you know, me and my wife on the
night, we always see this massive swell of water accumulate. Um and um we jokingly call it like Mars. Um couple inches. I'm Have you seen this?
>> Oh yeah. >> You're totally familiar with this issue. >> Um a couple inches it appears 3 in. And then it goes from there. So when we see it, it makes us quite nervous about whatever is going on. We don't know what
I'm experiencing. It has had it functionality that take care of it. It's it's been a problem there forever. Houses on both sides and the other.
It's been that way. Yeah. >> Going back many decades. >> Sir, are you are you testifi testifying that the the water goes over Mars a onto your property from lot 89? Well, I mean to be honest with you, like the entire area I think is probably suffering from
a flooding issue and there is a lot of building going on like I know. >> Sure. I'm just looking at the uh street view now. You're across the street from lot there. So, but does the water come over the road onto your property? >> Um there's a lot of water on Morris. I
can't say that that in particular is because when the guy on the table comes up that >> Thank you. >> Yeah. So, I guess uh um I guess I'm just concerned um now that I've seen it. I'm not I'm
not trying to extract anything, you know. Um, but I do wonder in the long term if anything if there's any plans about this. Um, because I see a lot of building going on on the block and the neighbors are clearing up the lot. We're
losing a lot of forest and it's all just grass which is obviously contributed to the area. >> Well, and Dave, you can't uh when you build a house today, you can't put your water on anyone else's property anyway, right? >> Correct. The application before us is
only for a lot readjustment. It's not for any proposed development. >> That would come later and they'd be subject to any rules and regulations of the municipalities for zoning permit application, >> right? >> To address storm water in all lot drainage and storm water management
would go on planning as well too. Not necessarily zoning for >> if they were proposing to development and yes, right now they're just moving on. >> Right. Right. Right. I understand what it is. So, I I came out to just say
hopefully to make you feel better um in adding to this other than that. We do not plan on building anything back through and that's where the old water sits. That's the lake. >> Oh, really? Yeah. This is Mars Avenue. >> Oh, right, right, right. >> This is the current lot and we're just
standing on here. We priority if we if we build the house later, it would still be up here >> and it would just add on to the lot to appease um the lot size. But but back here it would remain protected nowadays.
Um which which is where all that work goes. It sits and then absorbs into the ground. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I can say that this house here >> does not flood other than >> well it gets a little bit into the sub
pump but the basement doesn't flood. Um the water is managed out here. Anything pumps out into here. It goes down generally within 24 48 hours at the absolute most. And any water that
actually is on here, this this this whole frontage here is dry. The water is back in here. And any water that is along here is um not part of the
property is part of the highway. It is any runoff from the the highway, not from the property. It's separate from and there's
the state put a drainage on the highway. So, it's as best managed as the state is going to do. >> But we're just I guess like our engineer said, we're just worried about lot lines right now. >> Right. >> It's hard to see from the map, but it all kind of occurs over here.
It's all kind of down. >> I I' I've seen it. I I know exactly where I know exactly, but it goes away very quickly. >> It sticks around for a few days a lot. >> All right. Is there anyone else like to be heard out in the public? Thank you.
>> Raise your right hand, please. Name and address. >> Ralph Travalone, Marshmall Road. Malik, >> you swear to tell the truth about the testimony you're going to get. >> I do. Um, I was on the 2024 planning board master plan review committee and we looked at problems that this property
has where we looked at uh non-conforming use residential within the highway commercial side and we made our recommendations to the township committee and 0525 did away with it where a use variance is
no longer warranted. I don't know why the office didn't pick it up, but it was past summers around early July. We did 05 25 and 06 25. Uh one was residential shed sizes where we
increased most people were very >> the pole bars, >> excuse me, >> the pole bars. >> The pole bars, right? Accessory structures where we increased it and the township committee approved it. So 0525, please check it out, Mr. because I don't believe this application
requires a use variance for residential use within the highway commercial z. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. But we'll we'll go what we have in front of us right now and then anyone else like to be heard? If not,
we'll close. Make a motion we close public by Danny Cesar. Second full. All in favor? I oppose. Okay. I make a motion we approve with the variant that we need or don't need to uh
>> I'll second it. Okay. Motion by Dana Dazzary, second by Mike Garo. Mr. >> to approve. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes.
Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good luck. >> Okay, that's it for our agenda tonight. Resolutions, Mike. We just won very close. >> There's a motion to approve. We got a
motion by Dan Desbury, seconded by Mike Arolo. All in favor? I oppose. Any abstensions to this resolution. >> Why is this doing this? >> I don't know. It's the microphone. >> Secretary's report. Chrissy.
Nothing. Mike, any >> Dave, any comments? >> Okay. Motion to adjurnn. >> I make a motion to adjurnn. Motion by D. Michael. All in favor? I meeting a journ. Thank you.