We order stand. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>> Okay. Pursuant to the public meeting act, this meeting was advertised in the South Cherokee Times in the Sentinel. It was also posted in the municipal building and on the council web page which is making noise.
Do you hear it? >> You might have to turn yours on in the back. Mr. Katano >> here. >> Mr. Leo. Mr. Ketchum >> here. >> Mr. Gafalo >> here. >> Mr. Dazzi >> here. >> Mr. Mr. Hamill
>> here. >> Mr. Terrasca, >> Mr. Eacius >> here. >> Chairman Gravenner >> here. Okay. In the absence of Mr. Leo will seat Andy. >> All right, gentlemen. The uh the minutes of the previous meeting. Has everybody
reviewed them? Any questions about Is there a motion to approve? >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Danny Dazzi. >> Second it. >> Second by Mike Carpool. All in favor I any abstensions I was >> abstensions >> I know it's annoying.
>> Okay. Uh before we go go on with our first application, if there's anyone here from the public for ARC properties, that has been postponed till next month to May something >> May 5th. >> What's that?
>> May 5th. >> May 5th. >> May 5th. It is May till May 5th. >> They will be renoticing. >> They're renoticing everybody again. There was some short they did something wasn't done correctly with their public
notices. >> Receive the certified letter again this time. >> See you next month. color [ __ ] >> Okay, first our agenda tonight is CB25-23
in the name of Portstown Storage. Please come forward. >> They didn't ask for a comment. Your notice was deficient so they couldn't be heard. So I didn't say that the test were postponed. I said it was postponed. >> Good evening. Good evening, Mr.
Chairman, members of the board. Todd of Tesa Test and White in Linewood, New Jersey, representing the applicant Porchtown Storage LLC. We're here tonight uh requesting a use variance for mixed use uh commercial
development that includes uh some retail uh businesses as well as um public self storage at the rear of the property. We've come to the board to request the use variance first and not at this time
requesting site plan. It's just a matter of economics and we'll wait and see what the bull's pleasure is with the use variance application first. So, uh just some brief history before I present our witnesses. Um this property was approved
with a use variance for a more intensive um retail development back in 2011. Same client has owned the property all these years. is retoled. Um the proposal basically
downscaled it and adapted to current market conditions. So uh one thing I did want to emphasize is that this already was approved for mixed use. That one had features that this one does
not because I got liquor store had a fast food. This is more conventional strip mall retail. um in two smaller buildings with uh public storage facilities at the back of the
club. So, as I mentioned, I have some witnesses. >> How about we you have professionals are going to testify, Mr. Hack? >> Uh one professional to testify. We also have the uh um the the property owner and the property manager. >> Why don't we uh swear in the
professional at least so we can acknowledge him as a >> sure >> expert in this field. I I present Lewis Joyce from >> Raise your right hand, please. You swear to tell truth about the testimony you're going to give. >> I do. State your name. Lewis Joyce uh
associated with pensions last year planners since 1983 ICP showed different boards in the past number of years planning board
for selfition and you've been you provided testimony in your capacity as professional planner on those accounts. just also been a consulting planner for a number of small municipalities in sales town
for 10 years. So he's the chairman of my own planning board for 10 years and now I've been around a while to at this time in light of Mr. George's testimony request that he be recognized as an expert. We do the board recognizes
as an expert. >> Okay. Now, sequentially, I think I'll just introduce my client first and then we'll introduce Mr. Additional. >> Mr. Gra, we have to swear you in. Raise your right hand, please. You swear to tell the truth about testimony you're
you're going to get tonight. >> Yes, I do. >> Name and address, please, for the record. My name is 25. Thank you. >> All right. Mr. Aiden, are you in the owner of this property? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And how long have you owned it?
>> I own the property. >> And has the property currently undeveloped? >> Yes. >> And it's been that way ever since you acquired it? >> Yes. >> And were you before this board in the past uh engagement with any development to the property? And and what were you
>> requesting? >> And and that was approved by the board. >> Yes. >> And uh you now have a different proposal this evening. Not the same proposal but different with the um
self storage and and the prior development also was requesting Google. Is that correct? >> Yes. >> Is that part of tonight's proposal? >> Yes. >> You still want that as part of the proposal? >> Okay. That's what I was getting. Yeah.
That's no longer part of the dollar. And at one point you were requesting, Mr. You were requesting a fast food establishment for the property. No. >> No. In the past, but not. But that was
approved in the past. Correct. >> All right. Um, I believe I have no further questions that Mr. your age and number just so what what types of stores do you want to put there? You're going to have storage in the back, I assume, in the retail stores in the front.
>> Yes. >> So, what what kind what kind of stores and how many will there be? >> C stores like maybe shop. >> I think the the storage facility, what's
that going to look like? Is that going to be buildings that are going to be all fenced in? >> Yes. >> You got any idea how many? >> 1,500. >> 258. >> 258.
>> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. I don't have any other questions. All right. I think at this time I'll introduce Mr. Joyce again. Start the project
more towards the center more. So we come here Mike's block. Yeah, but you you can't open it up here and look at it. >> Can't see fast as fat. >> Well, you're that's perfect
to just give perspective of the site. Uh the site is located basically at the end of the township. It's on the border of Franklin Township, up in Pittsburgh Township, Cluster County, Salem County.
More than half of the frontage is actually in upper pit as opposed to commercial uses. Uh, we've got one, you've got General Brooks County
recyclers. Um, the tire store, a gas station across the street. Got the 40 or highway 40 truck stop across the street. These are a warehouse in the back. Some residential here across here
to the Pittsburgh. You see residentialism agriculture behind the site. Um the interchange between 55 and 40 is here. It measures it's approximately 5,000 ft. It's about a mile from the
interchange from the end of the property. This is the interchange commercial zone. Let me ask you a question about some of these other uses that you described the commercial uses that currently in the immediate facility
the food pantry there on the corner. Um that's a convenience store. Is that correct? Was it a while? Uh would you know are convenience stores uh allowable by writing that? Yeah. It's
not disc right stores can be with a fuel station as a combin which do have to
as a standalone use. Okay. I say a question about the dollar store which appear to be a recent development. Is that to your knowledge a a use that is listed as per itself?
>> Okay. So would it be accurate then that uses of improved commercial uses in the same zone in the immediate vicinity um that are not permitted principle of conditional uses in zone. That's right. They're not either one. Uh,
interestingly enough, they argue that commercial specifically, but not a change. >> So, do you have an opinion as to whether what's being proposed here would be consistent with the uh development that exists in the immediate?
>> It's not out of character with what exists now, which is grown organically around this intersection. And um have you um had a chance to review the township zoning ordinance?
>> Yes. >> Okay. And the county master plan the master plan master plan itself 2011 2013 and 2024 agreements some summary of the objectives. The uh interesting thing to start with
is that when this zone was created in 2004, u one of the statements in the in the master plan was that the position of this land, geographic position of this land to the intersection of the two
major highways theological application to large scale plant development that can boost the tax base without creating your own projects. And interestingly, it was first created
in Suniz since 5 acres. The intent for large scale commercial development. Uh some of the goals of the master plan was
Franklin Township seeks diversity and expand its economy. Uh invite Franklin Township to broadest economic foundation. One was preserve and protect the time cult's agricultural paradigm
to use this proposed on the back of this would not be any activity um and referring to sound disconnects to land use. Those those goals were have been echoed throughout the
re-examination reports under the 2024 reexam. One of the main things is to encourage economic development and industrial growth in those areas of the township. We'll have a minimum impact on residential
community. This is surrounded by commercial use. This is not an impact on residential communities. So it's it's very consistent the use itself is consistent as it goes.
I see we brought some other exhibits with you. Let's take a look at those. Any questions on this before? >> No. And then to answer your question about the number of self storage units again
this is Highway 40. I I'll do a color rendering in a few minutes, but the border slices across this property to develop the commercial part would be
close to the the one. Can you describe the uh plan size of those structures? Let's see. Commercials 13,21 square ft. Go back to the beginning.
Let's see what >> what's in upper pit then retention pond. >> Retention pond is in this area. >> So there's no building going on in uh >> there's no building in upper PCR Township. Well, there's a small building proposed that would be a pretty much a
dwelling with has a guard house and control through the self storage, but u originally as was referenced 43,000 square ft of retail was approved in 2011
with 206 parking places. What's proposed now is 18,000 instead of 140 ft of retail 86 button and 36,000 ft stuff still. >> So you made it smaller
that part. Yes. And again the amount of usage and traffic that goes to self storage versus 45,000 ft of commercial is much much reduced. Uh so we have the commercial then you
have all of your self here and again uh usage of traffic and activity and self storage is much much less commercial. So questions actually there there are
two commercial builds here in the warehouse distriution center you mentioned how uh what is being proposed seems generally consistent with the township master plan and things do you have an opinion as to whether what's
being proposed would have any substantial detriment to the council uh zoning plan or the master plan. But in my opinion, it will not have any substantial det. The zoning doesn't specifically call for this kind of use. It is a commercial
use. It does reflect the intent that this would be commercial area. So in terms of any substantial detriment, >> could you identify any substantial detriment to the public good at this
experience? Uh substantially no. Um for one residence and that's specific any activity that would potentially affect that address.
It's on a major park area. So that in terms of traffic, it's it's negative. We did not see increaseable increase in traffic specifically. So I I I think you've done a great job of
changing that from the original the original plan you had. Do you have anything else you you'd like to say? Cuz I'd like to move right on to the uh our engineer to go through his technical comments if we could. >> Question. So what is actually going to be
very general? >> He said the property manager get testimony on that. >> I seeing three buildings in the front. >> That's what >> Oh, okay. One, two, three, >> just one big one.
is the majority of the site especially over how many units I think you might have mentioned this before. How many units we have? Well, there are 250. >> 258. >> And how many structures you have? 80.
That's all. Is that I got one question for you. The the the is there any chance of like um expansion possibly? I mean I see there's there's farmland like right behind it and you know we we're trying to keep agricultural
areas you know prominent in this in this area. So what what are what are your thoughts about that or or the owner's thoughts about >> the owner's thoughts? I don't believe that close that lands and we're showing
buffering from that and just as history the other composers that have been before >> the owner's right there >> we're asking about the agricultural
property in the rear of the property. Have you ever had any discussions with that owner about acquiring that property? They give us 50 ft in the buffer zone that >> So you're you don't have any intention of buying that property and developing it?
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Do you have another witness? Raise your right hand, please. You swear to tell the truth about the test you're about to give. >> Yes. >> Name and address, please. >> Fred, Baltimore, like Baltimore without
be lane in Upper Fitt. >> Thank you, sir. >> All right, Mr. Almore, do you have some uh involvement with this project? >> Yes, I do. um in what? >> Well, I worked with Sam here on uh some of the design, what the feasibility is
for the uh storage units and for the commercial units and also did cost analysis. >> All right. So, do you have a general uh knowledge about what type of operation is envisioned at the property?
Yeah, we had a uh feasibility study done last year and they said the feasibility uh said that there is availability of 304 units or 51,000 square ft based on the surrounding areas of the storage
units. Uh so based on that and talking with Sam and what we could do uh you notice each one of these codes a little bit different because the square footage changes depending on what size units the size of the units will go from 10 to 10
15 10 20 10.5 to 10. Now we've also done a couple other things. Uh most of the units and we've been to all of them around the area. Uh and most of the units uh some of them were twostory indoor climate control. We're
nonclimate. The difference that we're going to have with some of the other facilities is that some a couple of these buildings are going to have 16 ft ceilings which nobody else has in in any area in around here. And we're going to make some wire
where you could go drive in a 20 maybe a boat 20 ft wide, 40 ft long, 50 ft long and 16 ft high ceilings. That's one thing that no other storage units have. The other thing is we're going to put electrical units in every unit. We'll
put electrical socket in every unit so they can use it. Other storage units don't have that. The other thing is we're going to provide some water. So in different areas so they have access to water. There'll be one area over here which we probably have some people like
to store outside. So we're going to put 10 spaces for outside storage but people that want to put something in the storage. Uh far as the commercial goes, uh you had asked previously what we want to put
there, but you know, we might go rather than individual stores. We might get something bigger in there, uh like a uh not a Walmart, which is not good enough site for a Walmart, but uh you could put uh uh some health units in there. uh
some doctor's offices, some attorney offices, some real estate offices, a fitness center may go in there. So, we're not limited to just saying we're going to put 25 90 ft storage in there. We'll put it what'sever available makes the most sense. Uh
the access they have access truck access in the back. Delies we anticipate would be once a week normally. Uh the facility back here will be all lights on every building. Every building will have lights fence around the total area, not
in front of the storage area, but back here. And uh we have security have security cameras back here and lighting on the outside down here. Uh what about operating hours for the retail portion of that? What's
>> Well, the retail portion would be whatever the the normal hours of whatever the client is that goes in there and you know some of them probably go up to 10:00 at night. Uh but the storage facility we would it's not a 24
hours so we won't allow access daytime to by day night. I think there there are things we could discuss if it gets approved tonight when you come for your site plan, hours of operation, >> what exactly is going in there, lighting
and all those those things. >> Yeah, that will all be part of the >> the site plan. >> The site plan, but I'm pretty sure we conform to all the regulations that we need. >> We're touching on some of those issues only because they were uh mentioned in the engineer. So,
>> you want to go through that report, Dave? Certainly chairman uh chairman and board members we our last report I believe was February 17th 2026 in which we reviewed the application. So the applicant seeking use variance as they spoke about for mixed use for commercial
component in the front along route 40 and then self storage facilities to the rear portion of the front site as you heard is in the interchange commercial zone. Now, the interchange commercial zone according to our ordinance, it
specifically says the purpose of the interchange district is to recognize the area around the interchange of Route 5540 as a unique opportunity to create a commercial enclave focused on servicing the traveling public through the
downtown. So, it's supposed to be for people driving by and grabbing something there. Um that's what the township had decided was necessary for that. Um this really of course storage really
doesn't do that and that you know part of the burden of their their application tonight is it convents us that it kind of meets the purpose of this IC zone. Now, the IC zone allows fueling stations,
fueling stations with convenience stores, no truck stops, allows diners and restaurants, drive-thru restaurants, bars, pubs and taverns, hotels and motel, government buildings, public utilities and utility substations,
mass transit stations and depots, child care centers, solars, things along those lines. So that's why they're here tonight. That's they don't comply with the regulations in the zone and and they're making a convincing argument.
So I just had a couple of technical questions like I had asked about the use of the commercial buildings and that's why they're going into it this evening. You know, is it strictly retail? We hear now that it may be medical offices and not re necessarily strictly retail. It
may be fitness centers, things along those lines. So you need to keep that in mind when we're thinking about approval for that. We heard about hours of operation. Uh generally um I have a question that
kind of is a kind of a sticking point with the township with this board or other commercial and um self storage facilities. Um, your plan didn't show any storage of vehicles and we heard we're
hearing testimony tonight outside storage uh of vehicles that's not on the plans or the application. So, you'll need to consider that uh potentially as part of your deliberations. Do you want outside storage? Um, the other thing that I was
thinking about with the self storage, and I don't want to get too specific with this, but it it's something you may want to think about. Um, you know, we had an issue before with using these self storage facilities as contractors
type storage areas, right? You know, contractor be coming and going all the time, getting his plumbing stuff or whatever. Um, is that part of this application? would that be part of this self storage kind of melding into a flex based type thing? So perhaps maybe the
applicant can touch on that later. Um as far as other technical comments I had um I I had a little bit of a concern. So this site clearly shows and it's a good design that the commercial is up on the
up on Route 40, you know, kind of grabbing people that go by. The self storage is behind and it's kind of buffered by that commercial, right? Kind of kind of secondary to whole use. When we've got the topograph the survey and
the topographic plan, it tends to look like the low part of the site is right where the commercial buildings are. So, I just need you guys to think about that. You know, c can this really be built the way they they're presenting it to us tonight? If that area, the low
area becomes a retention basin and the higher area where the retention basin is, things get shifted over there. So, you know, how tight are we on this use variance if it's granted? Is it this or is it generally what they're proposing?
That's something I want you to think about, you know, because really they're saying, "Hey, you've got this great frontage of commercial and the self storage is tucked in the back, but if because of site topography and site design, it becomes, you know, the
majority of it self storage and we get a little token commercial that may require revisiting this at site plan for reuse strands again. That's our only concern. Understand my position on this. >> If you make a total change of some sort
with that configuration >> absolutely okay. We don't have to have outside that is just the normal thing of what they have. I don't care one way or the other whether we get it or we don't get it. Okay. So there that takes care of that argument. The difference, and I think you're supporting this, is the low
part is here, >> but it's only 4 ft difference between this end and this end. >> So, it's not a big deal to put the retention in this area. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. So, and the other thing is upper
pits, upper pits, we have talked up. I first exc buildings cuz this is only residential. >> All right. So, what we're trying to do is comply with them retention basin and uh the streets are fine for them. They
don't have a problem with that. And and like I said, it's the way it is here is it looks like a good layout, right? Offering the self storage, keeping the residential in pit up in Pittsburgh. I get it. Um, my only point was >> you're not sure it can it'll work.
>> I'm not, you know, when we come back, we don't want to see something substantially different than this. >> That was that was the only reason I brought that up. >> That's fair. And we understand that we do need site plan approval. >> Okay. >> Um, I had hours about I had questions
about site lighting and hours of operation. Um, and the hours of operation we heard for the self storage, it's not a 24-hour, right? Right. It's going to be open on their, you know, generally normal business hours. Um, which is good stuff. Um, signage and
stuff to address during site plan. Um, is is there any wetlands and buffers that impact this parcel? Because there's a there's a stream that goes through there a little offite. >> I didn't know if you looked at that at all. just very
showing that layout. >> Okay. And then one of the other things that I see that could potentially um impact this proposed development is our requirement to buffer development
through farmland. You know, farmland's important and our our ordinance specifically says that it's a 100 foot buffer is required. they have proposed a 50 foot buffer. So if that 100 foot buffer so plant is it may impact, you
know, proposed development, but they're not here for that. They're here for use, right? I just wanted to bring that up. >> All right. Very good. Thanks, Dave. >> And I think that pretty much concludes the issues I have for this. >> Thank you. >> Comment on I agree with Dave regarding
the outside storage. Exactly. The other thing we've had, you mentioned having electricity and having high enough for vehicles. Problems people have had to be self place to park on their vehicle. I think
you sort of enlightening that when you say put your vehicle in, hook up electricity, have water there are the restrictions of any agreement we sign anyway for repairs and any type of certainly
I think it's not not running a business out of it not hurting vehicles I think there's more grants I think you have to be cautious if you're not granting it with outside storage or with vehicles You have to get a hold of that. So you
walk through a site plant that has been a problem. I think you have an answer as to why the the water's going to go uphill because they don't want to go to because they need a barrier there to the village. I understand that's why like I said it's
only 4T. So it's not either. I don't it's a problem. All right. Are you you finished your comments, Dave? and and Mike, how about we open to see if there's anyone from the public like to be heard of the public.
>> Motion by uh Anthony Gano, second by Danny Dazzary. All in favor? >> Opposed? Anyone from the public uh like to be heard regarding this application? If so, come forward. >> I make a motion to close the motion and a second.
>> All in favor? I >> will second. Dana will second. Okay. Mr. Heck, you have any any anything else you'd like to add to this? >> I don't believe so. >> No closing remarks or anything? >> Well, I'll just say respectfully we
think that this use um is compatible with the other uses that have been approved particularly I guess the Dollar General. It's pretty clear that whatever uh was originally envisioned for the zone with large shopping centers that hasn't come
to fruition. We think this is a good use of the the zone and this property and um again it's a it's a downscale of what was already approved by this board some years ago. So I was thankful we appreciate your consideration of banning
it. >> Thank you. Good job. >> Yeah. I drive by waiting to see a building going on. >> Okay. >> I make a motion we approve. >> I'll use
the outside storage. You want that? >> Well, I really don't have a problem with outside. >> Okay. >> I mean, it it's better if somebody wants to store a car out there than in those buildings. Yeah. I I know that it's hard to find a
place with outside storage as long as you're not working on vehicles there. I I don't see a problem with outside storage. and we'll have somebody on site 24 hours a day because what what we're going to do here is this house that we're going to build that's uh hopefully we get
somebody to be manager of the entire project access people coming in and uh so we'll have like a guard there all the time you okay with holding all those things site plan whether inside outside
>> yeah yeah I have no problem we're just in my opinion we're proven that they can build that there. We don't we don't have the subject. I'm understanding that based upon analysis of the drainage possibility they have well the entire layout.
That's something they're going to have to work out with their engineer. >> All right. There's motion by Dana Cesar. Is there a second? >> I second by Michael. >> Mr. Gatano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Ketchum. >> Yes. >> Mr. Garafalo.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Desari. >> Yes. I hope it doesn't take 20 years to build. >> Mr. Hamill. >> Yes. >> Mr. Glaciius. >> Yes. We already approved something similar. So, let's let's get roll. Yeah.
and Chairman Gravenner. >> Yes. Good luck. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you. >> Start the machines. >> Okay. Next on our agenda is CB266-01 Naj Kana if I'm saying it correctly. Good evening. Brian Hoffman Hoff on behalf of Mirage Connor, the applicant.
Uh we're dealing here with the property located at 572 Porttown Road, which is block 3312 block. Uh currently this is being used as a taco,
you know, taco din. Um and we are proposing to use it as a retail store uh convenience store which has been a previous use at this location with the same building and the same layout uh previously. We are in need of
a use variance uh because the use has been changed back and forth back and forth. >> Is that the owner? She she's going to be testifying. We have a swear. Okay. >> Uh but uh yes, this is Naj Ka. If you please swear in >> raise your right hand, please. Please swear to tell the truth about the testimony you're going to give this evening
>> and your name and address. >> My name is address but I just I thank you. >> And now um uh Dave had sent a report over. He did
request that we uh provide comments to his response to his technical comments which we have submitted. Um, and I'll I'll allow him to uh give testimony as to if any issues with that, but um our intent is uh to like I said this morning
any onsite uh food preparation or anything of that sort believe that impact on the surrounding environment and traffic everything will be less than what is currently there. I'm going to ask uh Naj, can you please tell me uh what are
the expected hours of operation? >> We're looking to open three days Monday through Friday and Saturday. >> And as I stated, uh there's no planned uh food preparation on the premises. This is all going to be classic
convenience store packaging. Um and uh do you have any experience in this industry? >> Yeah, my husband owns a liquor store. So we have that we have done a lot of research as well.
So >> and are you envisioning any the construction would only be on the inside? So there's going to be no construction there's a kitchen that's going to be removed because it's a restaurant right now. >> And other than that a counter maybe for
the cabinet there and and the um what do you call the uh where you actually >> shelves essentially. Yeah. All that will be there but there's no outside building no external construction uh
okay uh now the parking lot um is current no plan to change the parking lot >> okay uh and am I correct there's uh 12 parking stalls currently >> plan to keep those 12 parking stall uh I
do have a picture I don't know if this was I don't believe it was pulled that over um so you can see what it will look like. Uh there are five against the building, seven that are um on the other side of the parking lot. Uh
one ADA compliant which I believe is uh compliant with code on that issue. Uh we do you um expect to make any changes? >> No. >> Okay. outside
and currently there is you describe to me and signage. try to sign it just currently and then what is >> signific now are you also uh requesting that we would be putting some level of signage
home >> if you possibly can >> they could so long as complying with the code or whatever the board requirement uh you don't envision having that lit up Yeah. Um, when would you expect deliver?
>> Uh, one to two times maybe, you know, depending on how clear. >> Okay. And are those like pract like her and those kind of guys that have their
>> um and how many employees do you envision you have working at any time? mostly 71 but just one or two >> and uh at least to start what did you find out who was going to be myself and
gotcha and what is your projection uh again you you have some experience of the flipper store and research about how many customers talking like it's anywhere
from 5 to 15 an hour depending on how busy it is during the day. >> Yeah. In the morning like breakfast time, but I believe >> um and so your belief is that this is going to be less traffic especially at
peak hours um in that surround area. Are you going to sell coffee, >> but no sandwiches? >> No. >> How many entrant driveways are there? Just the one. >> There is uh I believe two driveways, one
for town road and the other on Leonard. Um so that and again that's existing currently. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And now I do acknowledge that um for the there's also some uh existing
nonconforming uh fault standards here. Uh there's the issue of there was an ordinance from last June which asked for 15% impervious coverage max and 10% max building coverage. Um
this was within his comments. Um the property is approximately 224 acres which is approximately 36,600 ft. The building is approximately 2160 ft. So that's 6% building coverage that is below the uh code. Uh in regards to the
impervious coverage, we have requested a site plan waiver and so we do not have site plan which will tell us exactly that coverage is however uh there is significant uh parking lot here. estimated to be purious coverage of 17,500 ft which be about 48% of pvious
coverage which would require a variance for non-existent uh or for existing nonformance uh conditions. Uh additionally there would be existing non conditions for uh it would be for minimum lot area
against under the uh speaker front yard setback. Um, can you tell us um have you looked at other places around
here to open this? >> What brought you to this specification? >> I think everything his present here in the community And you don't envision this being a place where you're going to have 15 people at once. There's not going to be
tolerance, loing, anything like that. What do you envision doing uh from a security standpoint? >> Cameras around outside and Nothing further at this time. >> What was that again? >> Nothing further at this time.
>> Did you say you're going to you're going to run the >> Yes. You're going to be the person. >> Another question. >> You going to stay if you're able? >> I'm sorry. >> Are you going to make it? >> Yes, definitely.
>> Where's your liquor store in vinyl? >> Uh, on Sharpies. >> Oh, no. >> Sharp. >> Like Crystal Island. by chem. You want to go through your technical
report? >> Um, most of this stuff touched on, but I did a report started dated March 18, 2026. We heard testimony that this is a con a conversion. Um, juice variance waiver site plan
convert the existing Mexican restaurant to a convenience store. Convenience store will have no food preparation. Um the only thing that's proposed for this is to restrike the parking lot. We're going to rep, you know, put new
sign up, same sign area. Um do some establishing permits to the building and any other signage. Well, and and special building mounted signs as long as it's mounted with closed accordance with our current code. So they'll just grab a
zoning permit for that. Um there are existing nonconformities. We're in an RA zone. 1.5 acres is required. They're at84. We have front yard setback 75 ft is required and they are 8.1 ft. And the
other thing that exists now that doesn't conform with our ordinance of block coverage 15% is allowed and 48% currently is there. >> Um that's been there forever. >> Been there forever. It's just just
bringing that up that uh one of active not um so nine parking spaces are required and we heard testimony that there's 12 in
the paid parking area. I do notice that if you look at the survey, the building and the parking lot, the building and the entrance off of I guess L cake road is very close to that rear property line. Some of the aerial photographs show people parking on unimproved area
of Maple Avenue. Um that's at Township Road, so that should not be parking area. Uh you've got 12 in your paid parking area. That's where parking should happen. Um, what I didn't bring up on my review letter and maybe you could touch on it is what are you doing
for trash dumpster with uh in an enclosure or something along those lines or will all the trash remain inside until it's removed? How's that hand? We're going to have small dumpster and it's going to be 10 things. So,
>> so you'll have a a dumpster with a trash enclosure around it where you envision >> it's already existing there. >> The survey says 6 foot wood fence. I'm sure that's where you're talking about >> the right rear of the parking lot. >> So, usually distance it doesn't impact
any of those. Um, we heard about site lighting and hours of operation. Again, it's the reuse of an existing building. That's it. It's been there a long time. >> So, we're not worrying about a site plan either. >> They're asking for site plan waiver
because they're just doing maintenance, restructuring the roads, restricing the park. >> Yeah. >> So, that's pretty straightforward. Um I just want to note that there was a letter of March 23rd 26 to council that
did detailed response to Dave letter that part of the record was covered by >> to your satisfaction. They answered the question what's in the letter is what what was testified to the >> Okay. All right. Let's open that up to the public.
>> Make a motion. Second. >> Motion by Andre Gau. Seconded by Dana Deed. All in favor? I opposed. Anyone from the public like to be heard regarding this? >> If so, please come forward. Of >> course.
Raise your right hand, please. Be sure to tell the truth. That's right. You're here to give. Thank you. >> Name and address. >> Peter Mr. picture. I hear that there's a lot of appropriate space
right across from white with the screen behind it. I hear nothing about retention behind it and I'm concerned that there'll be no one private view behind it from street. >> So you're aware is existing right?
>> This is an existing property building driveway parking lot for 50 years. >> Long time. >> How many years? I don't I don't know anything about I drive by them all the time at the parking lot. >> I was just making sure that you were aware that it is existing not
>> Oh yeah, I did. >> But I don't know what the drainage is. We haven't heard anything about this property that the border can't bring more good or so technically storm water management basin
is not required for existing imper if they if it was if they were expanding parking lot you are absolutely correct any new impervious surface needs to have solar Madison according to state standards. There is no new impervious as
part of this application. >> I see one, >> right? Good point. But it's not required by state law. That's my other concern. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else like to be heard?
>> I make a motion we close the public for >> second. Second by Mike Garo. All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Okay. Any other comments from our our professionals? Here's the test run. >> I make a motion we approve.
>> Second. >> Who was with the >> Andy? We got to think about >> with the imper with the with the impervious coverage, right? You there's more. So need a variance for that.
>> Right. So there were variances for minimum lot area front yard setback and not put that. Is that okay? Put that in your motion. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Good. >> Yep. >> Mr. Gatano.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Ketchum. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gafolo. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dazzari. >> Mr. Hamill. >> Yes. But you should name it the Iota Delhi, but it used to be called many years. Iota. >> Yeah, that's the thing.
>> Or maybe call it the store. And it was also it was also the Iona Fire Company there. >> Let the animals settle down. >> Where we Where we Mr. >> Okay. I say yes. It's good to bring back
a business at a location that's been there for how many years? >> At least 60. >> At least 60. >> At least 60 years. >> No. So my Yes. >> Chairman Grave. >> Yes. Okay, good luck. >> Thank you so much for your time.
>> Congratulations. >> Okay, that ends the applications for this evening. Do we have any uh resolutions? >> No. >> No resolutions. Any comments? >> Um I just want to remind everyone your financial disclosure statements
>> are due on or before April 30th. not already sent them in every sentence, right? >> I don't know if you completed them or not, but you should have usually Barbara sense that >> No, there was there was an email that went out while last week last week.
>> I didn't get it. >> There's a reason. >> Does it count? >> You got a phone call. >> You get I didn't get nothing trouble. >> I got it. money. >> And what's a two byp?
>> You get a fine. >> It's a $100 fine and I know all about >> you might be removed. >> After so much time thing is my computer showed that it was done on and I'm like I did mine already.
>> Will it Will it stress you out at all if I don't go? >> Okay. >> What's that? >> Will it stress you out if I don't go? Go. >> If there's no other comments, a motion to adjurnn. >> I make a motion we >> by Dan, seconded by Mike Garpo. All in favor?
>> I opposing I.