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I forget everything. >> This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Franklin Township Environment. You >> got to wear the fake glasses. >> This meeting is being held on July 6th. Uh July, not July 6th. >> July 20th. I didn't edit that. 2006 at 7

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p.m. in the conference room in the municipal building. Adequate notice of this meeting was posted on the Bolton board in the municipal building, posted on the website for the township and sent to local newspaper. So we do roll call.

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Oh yeah, I did that. That's the uh [laughter] opening statement. We'll do the roll call. Uh, the chase is here. >> Is not Ellen? >> Yes. >> Easy.

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>> Me. Maria >> here. >> Ian is absent. He's in somewhere. >> Europe. >> Europe. >> And Walter's not here. >> Okay. Wal, if if Walter comes in, we'll we'll

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change it. >> Okay. I've just written a little bit some opening remarks. Um I wanted to mention that we've been talking about the leaf blowers and the Senate bill in the state in the um down in Trenton is

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uh S623-2026. Senator Smith, our Senator Smith. >> Yay, Bob Smith. >> The uh the sponsor. And it bans uh two-stroke gas blowers after two years after after it's enacted. It also bans

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on use four years after enacted. So they could keep them running if they got any. They can keep running for four years. I hear you just said two strokes after two years. After two years sail is banned. a sale of them after two years,

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>> right? But if you have any, you can keep using them for two more years after that. That's good. That's fair. >> Then four stroke gas blowers ban on residential use four years after enactment. >> Then um it's been pre-filed referred to

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the Senate Environmental and Energy Committee. Um and so hasn't it's still in committee. >> Okay. Um, I noticed that where we've noticed about Montlair, they have a year- round ban on on everything, but

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the landscapers have filed suit >> which >> in Montlair. >> Oh, Mont Clair. >> Now, this is this is a motion that's going around the country because Lexington, Mass, Burlington, and Boston and Portland have bands, various bands.

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>> So, it's um it's not just us. It's starting to move around the country. >> I got to stop by Senator Smith's office and go, "Yay!" >> I I didn't get to call. I wanted to see what he could give us more information, but I got that. >> Um, that I found on the web, so it's

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it's there. Um, on a positive note, I want to mention that our partnership with the astronomy club. We went to the Firefly um grasslands walk. Kiki and I and Stan um last week or was it two

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weeks ago? Two weeks ago. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And we gave out some of the round nights. We gave out some LED bulbs that we got on the grant and a little bit of the literature and uh and we got to see the stars and watch the fireflies. So, I

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want to of course thank Dan and Kiki for helping me in the booth. We we really stayed at the table the whole time. >> It's about a mile walk and the the trail the trail advisory the open trails commission I just want to add I'm sorry

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to interrupt no that's fine >> they did a fantastic job organizing >> um they read they had watermelon at the end which was great and they u they read uh they read one of the is it what's her

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name >> had written a song about fireflies we all sang the song. She had the lyrics. She passed out the lyrics >> and uh and then she read a book about fireflies which was great because

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>> there were kids there. >> There were kids and teens and yeah, it was very educational. So it was it was >> Thank you. Thank you guys for partnering with them. >> It was great. >> Fireflies aren't endangered, are they? >> They are. >> They are. What else? Okay.

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>> Must be our pesticides. >> Well, they were out. They got a nice >> We have a lot fewer fireflies than were some decades ago. >> Yes, there are. You're correct about that. Yep. Yep. >> What was that? >> There are a lot fewer fireflies, he

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said, than decades ago. >> A lot as a kid. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, that's the second year in a row I've been to that one. >> There were quite a few there. >> About 50 people. preserve. >> Oh, here's

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>> Walter. Okay. Well, um then we're going to look for approval of the July 6 minutes. So move >> okay or any comments >> just uh two very minor ones and it's the

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same thing [laughter] in places um in the uh first paragraph the last line um says she proposes public a public meeting um it's public meetings [snorts] plural um and then the very la the third to

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last line um Smith stressed that we should hold a public meeting and again it's meetings. This is for the lead for >> okay good take more than one meeting >> that's it

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>> third to last line. I'm sorry I'm just looking for what paragraph is it in >> at the very at the bottom of the page. >> Oh I see it. Okay. Thank you. >> That's good. >> And just for the record, my last name I

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like this one better. [laughter] You can keep it. >> How do you spell it? Let me Hold on. We'll read. Go ahead. >> An AA. You can keep the first three and then it's uh S A S A K O S.

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>> Got it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> How do you pronounce it? I'm sorry. >> There's a lot of things up that many syllables. [laughter] >> You got the syllables.

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>> Yeah. >> Thank you, T. >> But not the A is there are. >> Yeah, there was no G in it. >> I don't really care. [laughter] >> No, it's good to have it done. That's that's good. Okay. So then we'll now

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vote to approve the minutes as amended. All in favor? >> I. >> Yes. >> I will open the floor to motion to open the floor for public comment. >> Second. >> Any more in favor? >> I would you have any public comments?

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You have a visitor. >> This is Aaron Dy. She came to speak about World Water Day. So [laughter] I had you in my correspondence, but I'm glad you came. Yeah, finally I'm able to meet it but uh very happy to meet everyone and see how

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the meeting takes place. I've been a resident uh for 17 years Franklin Township and my kids go to you know public school in the uh town. Um so I am a coordinator for

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>> your name again please. Your name again. >> My name is Aruni and Roy she did. >> Yeah. [laughter] So um I was really interested as I came

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to know about the environmental commission. I'm like you know what does this commission do and how can um you know we as uh members right as community members help in pitch in and support. Um

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so I have been engaged with rivers of the world. Uh it's a nonprofit organization and their main mission is to uh you know um clean up rivers all over the world. So we actually work with

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almost um uh five countries, Southeast Asia, China, we have folks from all over the world and you know volunteers from all over the world. So I'm a coordinator uh from New Jersey in Franklin Township.

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So me along with like you know I have very little uh volunteers all from school, elementary school, middle school, high school and we have been doing this uh uh stream cleanup which is at the six mile uh run trail right so

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we've been doing this for four years now and I was thinking how like you know I can collaborate with the environmental commission to come see our work and you know just encourage the kids and partner in ways to kind of like, you know, um

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keep our space clean, right? Teach them about the environment. >> Um we do trash clean up. We have picked up, we write up reports, we present it like you know what's that and then also drone surveillance like how the

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vegetation how the courses are changing because we have this flood flooding it's a flooding zone too. So um you know taking very baby steps because again we work with volunteers and these are uh you know I along with my day job um work

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with this little kids. We have our founding member um rivers of the world coming visiting us on August 1st. So this is why I come here to kind of like you know invite and see if y'all have

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the capacity to come and you know see our work or you know provide any feedback uh to us. We're thinking during the daytime early morning hours like maybe 9 to 11. Um so we plan to do this again.

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So every uh world water day we celebrate world water day. We do this um stream cleanup, the trail cleanup and we write up reports. We um feed the kids, the volunteers who [laughter] you know volunteer. Of course, we need

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some kind of incentive, right? Um and then yeah, this is where we are. So, >> so is this a sprinkling of the same that Stan manages? >> No, different. This is different. Yeah, >> we do a stream clean up in [clears throat] April. >> In April. Okay.

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>> Earth Day. >> Yes. Earth Day. So, we do do it. We have almost a month. We do it during like you know have to when it uh coincides with the world water day. So we partnered

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with United Nations UN um and we gave away prizes. We can it can be at various levels like little kids just the concept of what is world water day. >> Can you remind us the actual cleanup on August 1? >> It's on August 1st.

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>> Oh >> no. So we did it on March >> the cleanup. >> Yes. >> Okay. So that's one water day is in March, right? >> That's where water day falls. I don't know when was it. So I can uh look it up. But we mostly tend to do it during

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that one month period because it like you know we need to get everybody's schedule, everybody's time. >> So you have a one month schedule to do it. But between um April and May I >> Okay. >> Yeah. We we don't do it we don't do it exactly on April 22nd. We we depending

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when it's a Saturday. >> Yeah, this always on a Saturday. >> We We do a Saturday. >> But August 1st is, if I'm right, your founding members founding members coming to New Jersey and you're inviting the environmental commission to go to that meeting to see what you do. Is that correct? Okay.

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>> We need the trail, six mile uh run trail where they play like what is that? They they have a camp. It's right on uh 27 route 27. >> Okay. >> Um >> Six Mile Run. Yeah. At the trail.

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>> Is that where Robin is? >> Uh her her church is in Six Mile Run. Reform Church. Yeah. But this one the >> Oh, yes. Yes. So if I if the church is way further ahead, it's much closer to where we vote. What is that?

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>> Yes. There's a parking lot next to the soccer field. The trail goes off the parking lot. I know because I walked that trail once. >> You're exactly right. That's the spot. Yes. Okay. Okay. If you want to send me, you have my email. If you can send me the details of it once you have all the

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time and the place and everything, I'll send it around. And if the some of the members are able to come, I'm sure they're they will. >> Our next meeting is going to be August >> here. Friday, >> August 3rd. >> August 3rd. August 3rd. Oh, okay. >> So, if they if they're still are they

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staying a while this world? >> He's actually coming on 31st on the 31st of July, right? >> And um you know, he'll be here on 31st the night and then he he's coming here from Craftton, Maryland. >> Okay.

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>> So, he's there and he's like, you know, involved in so many other things. But I I'm not sure, but I can definitely ask if he's there. He'll definitely love to come around here. >> Great. Okay. Well, >> you know, since you've been in town for 17 years, you know what we're about.

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[clears throat] >> Good to meet. >> Absolutely. Yes. Yes. >> I'm glad you're here. >> Absolutely. Same. Same. Likewise. You know, it's like, you know, I've been in the township, but we are also occupied

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doing our own very things. Um we it's it's good to kind of understand what's going on and how we cannot >> Did you know anything about the World Water Day or >> No, I did not. >> Did he? >> Yeah. This is the website on the screen.

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It's Rivers of the World Foundation is their organization. Yep. And every year they celebrate One Water Day. >> Yeah. >> Uh on March. Yes. That's our website. Yeah, >> water day was on March 22nd. So we go

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there with our banner and you know few folks we have a lot of bikers on that trail. A lot of bikers so they saw it. They were like you know really interested too. They were like okay this word we would like to uh support. >> Great. Sounds like you have a bunch of

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articles and trainings up here. This is Grace. >> Excuse me. could I I just like to bring to your attention cuz I'm a 4 county judge and it's like maybe you might want to contact the Middle Sex County agent

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and they could maybe bring it to the 4ers cuz the contact I've had with the 4ers has been amazing. They're energetic, enthusiastic. You know, the different clubs have a different focus, but then they also compete in county and

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state, you know, competitions. But I'm a firm believer when it comes to these causes, bring it to the kids because once you get the idea in their head, they're going to then startounding their parents. And I've heard this from a few parents. [laughter] So anyway, so I just

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you might want to contact, you know, the county for agent. >> Okay. And I can find that information on >> Oh, it's on it's online. Yeah. Ours is >> Somerset Somerset County Fair in August.

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It goes on for more fruit towards um >> Edgewater Edgewater. There's a big park animals and that kind of stuff. But yeah, a lot of groups >> where Somerset my friend is the Middle Sex County agent. She wrote me into

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roped me into judging over 20 years ago. The best way to have kids. They come, they present, they go home. [laughter] But the kids just amaze me. We got to bring it to the kids. >> Thank you so much for sharing.

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>> Thank you for listening. >> One quick question. Is there a United Nation Connection? >> Yes. So, United Nations Connection means the World Water Day, right? So, United Nations always uh celebrates all these things. So we partnered with them and a

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portion of the award which was like you know they sent it over so we got the prize from them as well. Cool. >> I belong to a group called world team now that uh probably is very interested and you you

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might have come across them. I'll bring that to their attention and we see if we can make a connection there. >> Absolutely. [laughter] >> This is this is a opening up a whole new area. Yes, is >> we just need to show up and you know

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share and discuss I guess you know >> like we're sharing with the astronomy club. >> Yes. >> For dark sky and so we partnered with them now as you heard we shared a table at the at the grasslands. >> That's really very interesting when you showed me the picture of what was that

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Venus. >> Venus. Yeah. My kids, they're like my my son, he's a rising senior. >> Oh, >> and the other >> I didn't get the uh I just got her name. >> My daughter, she is team now. >> They're doing high school.

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>> Yes, they're both in Franklin High. >> Yeah. >> Excellent. >> Okay. Well, thank you so much. >> Yes. Thank you. Yeah. When you get more details about that, send it forward. But yeah, feel free to email anything to us that you have that you want to share with BC, you know, and our stream

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cleanup is in April, so you guys are welcome to absolutely. >> We could use another group to help out. >> You signed up there, right? So, I'll add you to the list. >> Yes. Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. >> Check the box. [laughter] >> Perfect. We'll add you in. >> Okay.

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>> Thank you so much. >> Okay. >> Okay. We'll take a motion to close the floor unless Bill has any comment, but I don't think so. Okay. Um, we'll motion to close the public >> move second. >> That's what I left home.

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>> We're back. >> The correspondence. I got three correspondents, but I'll tell you what they are. Um, one was uh from um from the county uh and the uh DP for the interess section of the Mainville

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Causeway and Western Canal Road. uh they applied for a freshwater wetlands permit and that's now being processed by the D. That's to put eventually uh fl solar powered uh lights warning people that

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could be a potential people crossing the toe path from north to south or south to north and they've got it marked out on the map showing it's going to be a crosswalk and all that stuff. So that's moving along. Um, the other one was not

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addressed to us, was addressed to Bob Warlocker and it was just about a a environmental group doing doing something. Um, and um and that's yeah, so that's that's that's what they were

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doing do things. Um, okay. So that was the correspondence. Okay. So now um you have we have some site plans. >> We have some site plans. Yeah. So um so starting off is let me get there.

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Uh 35126. Okay. This one is Josh Talbins log. Um and what they are looking to do is install a single level rectangular shaped paved patio along the back side of the home. Bless you. Currently, the

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home is almost maxed out on impervious cover. We are looking to go above the allotted 90 by an additional percentage. I have to look and see what it is. Patio will be less than 1,000 square ft. Um, so there so they're allowed to have 25%

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it looks like and they want to have 29% impervious cover. Um, yes, for imperous cover. Yep. So, what they're looking to do, this is off of Lake Avenue. Here's Hill Avenue.

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Um, this is the house right here. Here's the driveway going up to the house. And this is where they're looking to put the patio is right in here attaching to the back of the house off the deck. And by doing that, they will exceed the

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impervious cover allowed by by 25% which is allowed. They want 29%. What are they building? Remind me, do you? >> Sorry. >> What are they building? >> A patio. >> Okay. Accommodate the requirements. >> Did they say what kind of material

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they're using? >> Uh, no. They did not. But it's impervious because it's going to make them exceed the impervious coverage. Having a problem with my map getting going. So, it's >> Are there any trees are taken down or no trees? >> Uh, no trees that they're taking down.

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Let me get back to the survey. Uh, single level rectangular shaped patio. Yeah. Oh, okay. And the patio will be less than 1,000 square feet. There it is. So, there's no trees existing. It's basically a pretty simple

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application for a >> patio. Yep. >> I would make a comment that we encourage property owners to stay within their Yes. um the bounds of the of the um guidance, what are the rules

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of um their property? >> Yeah. >> You know, whatever it is in their zone >> and then is this a zoning board or is this the planning board? >> Um this one is zoning board.

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>> It's up to them to make that decision. Yeah, we have a blurb to that effect. So that's how. So we want to have stay

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okay within the impervious coverage envelope. >> Makes sense. >> So all right. So >> it's understood that they're going to concretize the whole place. That's what they're saying, right? What are they saying? >> Going to be concrete. Everything is going to be concrete.

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>> Imperous. Yeah, imperous. I mean, we're going to basically say we think they should stay in. I guess we could recommend that if they are allowed that they use impervious >> impervious. Yes. >> For the

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>> Yeah. >> All right. >> So, that is the one I did, which you know, pretty easy going. Who else did one? Let me say uh I have Ted up next. Carl Sterling.

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>> Hey. Um why don't we also say um you know say to use pvious but also suggest that they plant a few trees to uh help soak up whatever water um when it rains

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>> like we had last week. >> They probably have Township Almond open space behind them. They can still plant trees on their property. [snorts] >> That works.

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>> I'm sorry. >> Yeah, we have that. Yep. Okay. All right. Next up, we have Ted with Cal Sterling Franklin. I have your email. Give me one sec to get it up here. So,

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>> this is Sterling Point Sterling Point Cedar Grove at Western Road. >> Yes, >> they proposed well they actually proposed three apartment buildings in

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about when they were first building around 2002. Uh but they didn't build the apartment buildings which would be at the very rear of the property. Several years ago, they came in and got planning board

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approval for building two apartment buildings, but they could only build one at that time uh because [clears throat] the township was restricted on what it could approve and allow to be built.

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until the water system was upgraded in some way and the [clears throat] and they always take six months to a year to approve this. Apparently this and that incidentally uh

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three of the houses of what we might as well call the rest of development uh cannot be connected up to the [clears throat] township water supply if they're finished before

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the approval. They would have to have wells planning will approve that. So they now want to build the second apartment building. So this is just a sort of pro-form okay now can we go

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ahead and they didn't submit any plans like because the plans had been approved several years ago >> and >> so they're requesting approval to build the second of three buildings, right?

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>> Just two buildings. >> Second of two buildings. buildings in 2002 when I finally figured out everything >> already approve. But their approval should be expired though by now, right? That's 20 years ago. Things expire.

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>> No, but they got >> rebuilding forever. >> No, no, no. >> I kept wondering now they have to complain. Okay. >> Things have changed. >> Sterling Point is a developer

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point. >> That's the other active adult community. >> Oh, it's the other adult community. >> That's the fourth one. The small one. >> Yes. Yes. Right next past Renaissance. >> It borders Renaissance. Yes.

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>> Yes. Yes. I know exactly where that is. Yeah. I I remember when they made the application it was when we finished when canal walk was built out they said oh now we can do we can build something because we don't have the competition of

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new apartments the canal walk and so they put the first building up they never did the other two but now so now they're going back for building number two >> to resubmit right >> yeah I guess they have [laughter] to update the plans anyway

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>> does the requirements Sorry. Does it say >> if we can see plans? >> Yeah. >> How big? How big the building is? It does it mention >> apartments? How many units? >> How many floors? >> It was 60. They said the original approval was for

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>> way back when was >> 130, three buildings, >> but now I think asking were I'm trying to remember whether it was 62 or 70 over two buildings. >> It's a huge building.

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>> How many floors? >> In addition, in 2003, the board granted an approval to >> how many stories 23 years >> because the buildings that >> it will take to be wide >> very Yeah. wide and long. 30 unit

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apartment building with a footprint of 12,144 square ft. >> 30 units. >> 30 units. >> 30 units is more of a medium size. >> That's the second building. Yeah. In 2024 an amended site plan app. So that

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in 2024 it was they did reapprove cuz yeah the approvals do expire if there's no building that occurs. >> Um but in 2024 they were reapproved. So usually it's a threeyear so they're they're okay. >> Okay. Um, but this is now a 230 apartment building like Ted said with

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all the associated improvements, 12,144 square ft. >> And basically, yeah, they got the approval. So, they're kind of just like I guess alerting us that they're going to >> start. >> Yeah, cuz they don't land. I think the

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land was cleared. There's no real, you know, >> trees or >> Yeah. No, it's Yeah, it was a construction site. >> I see. >> And it just says, "Yeah, should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact our office." Like, it doesn't

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even ask for anything. >> Yeah, they don't need any variances because it's already >> it's approved. It's approved by a resolution already. >> Okay. So, we will just let uh the planning board know that yeah, we received it, but

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>> there's really nothing We do though we could add a recommendation which wouldn't have been at that time electric vehicle chargers. Ah >> yes >> we have that in our company >> chargers >> they could do it here too

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>> the solar readiness >> one of the problem >> warehouse >> back to the lighting >> uh internal inside the building >> right >> uh sometimes the lighting is excessive

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>> u so uh we should recommend that they use answers >> just whatever lighting is required by the insurance because clearly >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh not more

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>> of course >> and if that lighting could be motion activated it would be even better. >> Okay. >> I would add that. Yeah. >> Yeah.

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because we don't have that and it's bothering bugging me now that I'm aware about my >> it's for their advantage the builder >> thank you >> thanks for coming >> thank you >> we'll be in touch >> absutely I'll I'll send over the details thank you

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>> okay thank you yeah we can do that >> should we say that they should plant trees I can't >> we don't have anything to look at is the only problem we don't have yeah >> there was a site plan from the beginning

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you >> so the there no trees already >> I think the trees are gone already >> they've been gone >> in maybe 10 years trying I don't remember whether there was something about trees at the time

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>> I would think that the board would normally just bring something like that up off about vegetation. >> Do we want to say something about making the roof uh ready for solar?

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>> Doesn't work that way in a multi- apartment building. It's very difficult >> for warehouses. >> Well, no. It could be for a big store, you know, like a Kohl's or something on the roof for those kinds of things. But you have 30 different tenants

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>> and it's a common thing, you know, it doesn't it doesn't work. >> Everybody's usage of electricity is different. Yeah. >> They could use balcony solar. [laughter] >> You gave me the opening. >> All right.

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>> Okay. >> Uh last one then we have is uh Paul yours. We do Rariton Valley Habitat for Humanity at Church Hill. >> It was one that we looked at before and it's a very narrow lot. Uh Habitat Humanity submitted a application to

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build a single family three-bedroom house ranch style uh gravel driveway, no garage. And [laughter] in the first iteration, there was no more details than that. Now they've

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submitted more a plan and it does show uh that two existing trees are going to stay existing alongside the house. There's no mention if they're taking down any, but this is this is the advance they made and and there's more details about the building. There's a

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nice view of it. It's a simple house. It's not a big lot, you know, it's a very narrow lot by habitat. In fact, the town the township owns the lot. What are they with pvious coverage on?

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>> Um it the only variance was for the lot coverage on the building. There's no um other than the building, there's gravel on the driveway and the rest is grass and two trees, >> two sidewalks. >> No. No. >> What does that what does that mean as

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far as >> Well, the only the only uh variance they applied for not for imperious coverage. It had to do with uh maximum lot coverage for the how much the house was taken up in the percentage of the lot.

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>> I think there 27% and the maximum was 25% something like that. >> Yeah. So it's this lot here. This blue one. >> Yeah. >> Very narrow church. >> Let me look and see here what they said

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the building. I'm not the architect about two trees, Paul. But that >> Yeah, there's a drawing that shows all trees trees. There's a drawing on >> here

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on the on the right hand one there. It says existing trees to remain up in the upper right hand corner. >> Yeah. >> And there's no one no mention of tree removal. >> So they're not knocking anything down to remain. Well, there there's no mention

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of it, but that >> doesn't mean no. That's my point. Yes. >> Let's see if it's in the notes. >> Wasn't in the notes either. >> No, it wasn't. >> Huh. >> Yeah. >> I think we need to ask.

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>> Well, yeah, they have to tell us. That's part of it. I'm surprised. Well, >> it looks like it's full um canopied out. >> Yeah, >> maybe these [clears throat] plans should include pictures. I went through the notes I went through. You know

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>> what is that table there? >> I'm going to look at I just put my glasses on. [laughter] That's dust control. >> These are construction exits. And that one is dust control. Pave driveway. It's gravel. >> H >> I said concrete. Go back up a little

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bit. Yeah. Existing conditions should show trees. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> You see it's fully canopied. It looks >> Let's see if there's a front page. >> What is the site? What are they showing? Can you blow that up?

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>> Can we zoom in? There you go. Yeah. >> Yeah. There it's trees. It's all >> Yeah, I'll put the map up. But it wouldn't be regular that they would put the tree count on the very cover page. But let's say >> it should be a a box. and I couldn't find the box.

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>> H >> yeah, they need variances for frontage. So, they're proposing 50 feet of frontage when the minimum required is 100 and they are undersized on their lot. So, they have 9,750 and they need 10,000.

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>> Yeah, that's the only variances they asked for. >> H yeah, they have not said anything about the trees. Nothing. I don't see anything at all. This mention of the existing trees was different from the first application. There was no mention at all of trees.

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>> So, we're moving them bit by bit. >> Yeah. >> Okay. You [clears throat] going to township your bones this property? >> Yes. Yeah. On In fact, it says it says on the drawing. >> I saw it somewhere. >> Yeah, it does say >> township of Franklin. The ones we've had

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from them who have been township. I guess is the town donated the land to habitat. >> So it's the township that's the >> trees down though. I mean where they're proposing there's trees. >> Huh. Interesting. Okay. Let me look at

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the map now. >> Can you red flag this application when you're writing up your and say that you want to see the tree plan? >> Oh yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah, >> that that was the thing I saw. >> The whole lot is wooden. So,

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>> and is the town going to make them pay for how much trees are not replanting? It's a complete nonprofit charity. >> So, it's a it's a delicate >> subject. >> Yeah. Well, it doesn't matter. >> Well, I mean, >> does the town the town's the owner of

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the land? >> It doesn't matter. >> They're [laughter] still cutting trees. It doesn't matter. >> Yeah. >> I mean, Habitat for Humanity, you would think they would care about the trees. >> Yeah. But they care more about people having a place to stay. Yeah. But be in

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harmony with the environment. >> Maybe the town is going to clear it for them. I don't know. >> Taking money out of one pocket and put the other. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Although the the pocket that it's coming out of is from one budget, but the pocket it's going into is into the shade tree trust fund.

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>> Yeah. So, you know, the like I say, the town is the owner of the property. Habitat is doing the construction and then whoever >> But like you said, did they donate the property to Habitat? And if they did,

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did they do it before the construction or after the construction? When you know >> I don't know when de changes. >> I'm not ask question. Normally when Habitat builds something, when the house is completed, they give the the person the deed and

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all that stuff. It's when everything is done. >> So maybe the DPW is going to take down the trees. I don't know. >> And then they give the bill to the people that purchased the property. Uh >> yeah, $20,000 for the trees they took down. [clears throat]

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>> Have you heard some lately of somebody on both sides of the argument? I want I'm finding you 10 grand 10 billion and you're going to pay me for prosecuting people. >> Faintly remain about that in the news. >> No, you have a little bit about that in

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the news. >> But but this is what you get to. If we own the if we own the trees as the town >> and we're donating the the land, is it our responsibility to take the trees down? >> You can't build a house otherwise. >> The township above the law. Well, the

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township isn't the one that would be building the house, so technically, no. It would not be our responsibility. The person, which is Habitat for Humanity, >> responsibility, >> which doesn't really make a lot of sense because Yes. I mean, this amount of trees is going to be

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[clears throat] >> expensive. The question is when the trees are taken down, >> Yeah. >> who owns the property when the trees are taken down? >> That's the question. >> Who's responsible? >> That's the question. Yeah. Yeah. I >> I have no idea. I I don't know how to

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answer this one. >> Really timing affordable housing. It belongs to the town. Still the town, right? >> I would imagine. So >> when is the donation complete? >> Well, if the town it seems to me that [clears throat] the township the the way I understand it

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is that the township has already donated the property. So, the habitat for humanity is already >> the owner >> the owner of the property. >> Well, we don't know that, do we? >> No, I don't. >> The owner is still Can we get Franklin? >> Listed as Franklin on the plan.

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>> It doesn't say habitat owner. It lists Franklin as the owner. >> Yeah. >> I am not sure about this change. >> Something we need to bring to somebody's attention. >> Yeah. Well, it bring it to the attention of

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>> the zoning the planning board. This is a zoning board or a planning board. This is planning board. I think >> planning board. >> No, it's a zoning a zoning board >> because it's it's an undersized lot and it needs a you know it needs the variance. I'm reminded of the

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oh a year and a half ago DP people cleared 21 acres in South Jersey, cut down all the trees to create woodcock habitat [clears throat] and they got caught and essentially the

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DP is having to pay a very substantial fine. Oh, that's our >> There we go. Raritin Valley Habitat for Humanity is the contract purchaser pursuant to a developer agreement with the township of Franklin. So, the township is still the owner. The Rarin

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Habitat for Humanity is the contract purchaser. So, they're under contract to buy this property. They probably are trying to get all their approvals in place before >> they actually close on it. Mhm. >> Can't we put on this on the donation, can't we put like a caveat saying, you

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know, not to take down x number of trees or whatever? >> The house is going to there's no way to build the house then, >> right? >> Well, they should build a house. If they build a house closer to Churchill Avenue, >> then they can leave the trees behind it.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're not that far in. There's no there's no root driveway. >> Yeah. I think it probably is pretty close to >> I mean that's what they plan to do because >> it's it's only like one car logical. Why would they say trees will

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stay? >> Yeah. I mean we got to get the car trees that will stay. Yeah. They're pointing to like it looks like >> two trees are staying or something like that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Out of how many? >> We don't know. >> They say the tree and then Sam are they

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pointing to No, here. >> Yeah. >> Two. One. Two. >> Is that the front? That the front or the back? Here's >> at the front by the street. >> Existing trees to remain. >> Yeah.

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>> The aerial photo shows a full canopy of trees on the whole property. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Well, you see [clears throat] >> it's all cut. >> So, they're going to keep two. >> Yep. Well, there's two in front of the house. >> Two in front of the house and all the

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rest are >> leave the trees at the back of the house and >> probably trees in the back. But they have to >> like I don't know who somebody said something make the driveway shorter. >> I mean, I don't know what you know, I don't know what the um >> impervious >> the frontage is, you know, you have to be the setback is.

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>> Yeah. >> But a shorter driveway, you have more room for trees to stay in the >> the back. You know, you can move the house up and more room to not knock down trees in the back. >> It looks to me like the driveway is not more than one car in length. Not much. More than one car.

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>> What's the length of the whole lot? Uh >> that shows it was >> Yeah, the aerial photo probably dates from some time ago before that part of Churchill was developed, but the what you just showed has >> 195

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>> still has trees on that lot. >> Mhm. >> Oh yeah, there is definitely Yeah. How how >> you showed you flipped past another thing which go >> that was the cover page. [clears throat] This is the cover page of their own

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plan. Yeah. >> You go back to the drawer to the to the plan. >> This is the plan. That's the cover. So it shows you all the woods are still there. >> There's trees back in the corner. Maybe they're planning to leave. I don't know. >> Well, they're planning a build right here though. Here's the envelope

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>> that they're building in. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> And you can see the trees under it. This is from their own plan. >> And the bit behind it is doesn't seem to have trees. >> Yeah. On the side. Is that Oh, there's a house next to it.

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>> If you look here. >> Yeah. Again, there's a ranch. The driveway is >> here. >> 25 ft. Oh, that's from the front of the house. The driveway shorter than that.

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>> It's about 30 ft by 18, it looks like. Yeah. >> And there's a little porch in the front. >> Yeah. >> And the ranch comes back to here. So there's not much. >> And then back here, see it says wooded. >> This says property tree line. >> Yeah. >> Just saw that.

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>> Yeah. And it says wooded here. >> So they're keeping the woods in the back. So they they do have to let us know how much they're taken down, which there's no info. So we'll ask for that for sure. >> Yeah. So, it looks like they all leaving the trees in the back.

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>> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Okay. All right. We can definitely ask about that for sure. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Great. >> Perfect. Um I think that's all we have. >> That's it. >> Yep. For today.

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>> Yep. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> That's it. >> Okay. And we're up to new business. And I see number A is something new. Uh update on the rain garden project at Six Mile Reform Church

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>> July 14th meeting. >> Did I send you guys the updated agenda or No, I did, didn't I? >> Yeah, portable. >> The portable solar. Yeah, I think you printed out. That's okay. It's just the portable solar is just ahead of [clears throat] it. >> Who's doing the portable solar? >> That's the question.

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>> Yeah, [laughter] just do the presentation. I didn't have my >> No, no, go ahead. Maybe you'll have the answer. >> That's all right. Go ahead. You may I wasn't going to go through the whole thing. I was just going to >> Who who wanted the feedback? The council woman. >> Yeah. So So basically >> you if we if you prepare it and it's

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from the commission. I didn't >> I know. >> Councilwoman Udine had asked that we prepare a a portable a presentation on portable solar based on remember when Sterling came and spoke to us. >> So she wanted it expanded upon. So she

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asked that we do that. So, I put this presentation together. She had a few changes here and there. So, we've made changes, but now um I think Paul, you wanted to it shown at the meeting, right? Cuz she wants feedback from us on

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>> No, there's a meeting she's holding uh in July in uh the end of the month or in August. There's a meeting on my calendar. It's a It's an 11:00. It's it's a meeting only of like reps from

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the different >> Yeah. >> from canal walk. >> Oh. Oh, yeah. No, this one this one the sheep is doing with us. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> No, not with us. See, that's where I'm confused because um >> I don't know really. I still Let me see

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what the last >> two >> um >> calendar. So, she asked that I help her prepare this presentation, which was no problem at all. So, we did that. The last thing is what?

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Paul is going to put this on the August 3rd environmental committee agenda and hoping we can do an educational session through Canal Walk Environmental Club. >> Right. But that's going to be in Canal Walk. That's >> is that on August 3rd? >> That's No, she's going to be here, I think, on August 3rd.

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>> Oh, she's going to come here on August 3rd, >> I think. July 27th. >> That's the meeting. The July 27th is the 11:00 meeting. >> I would like to invite you, but so these are 1 2 3 4 5 6

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>> So she's Yeah. So she's going to have a meeting with these people, >> right? >> Um including the two of us, >> right? Oh, it's going to be here. It's going to be here >> in the channel in the cancel

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27th at 11 a.m. Yes. Right. And and and I'm guessing that at that point we may discuss >> presentations in the two retirement communities. >> Was that Ron in Renaissance and and

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expanded Sterling Point the new the new So is that meeting that's finalized and done? Yeah, she she's >> Well, she already sent >> your presentation and she asked for comments. >> Oh, okay. So, I wasn't on I don't Am I

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on that email chain or No, >> I don't know. >> I I don't know because I remember it because I had I had one revision on number >> Yeah, she sent that to me. Okay. I was not on that email chain then. Okay. So, that's why I'm like, wait, what? Okay. So, but she already scheduled the place

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in time, so I don't feel anything. >> No, she's done. She's >> All right. Okay. Okay, fine. Great. Perfect. Okay, so then Oh, so then I don't need to to do it here. You guys are going to >> She's going to come here on August 3rd, you're saying? >> I think so. >> She want comments from us before?

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>> Yes. Yes. Let Let the Let the Commission see. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Because the rest of the commission hasn't seen your presentation. Only Paul and I because we're in Shipa's group. >> I understand. Okay. But

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>> I think this I I saw this on email. >> Well, you probably >> Oh, I sent it around. I think >> familiar to you guys. Does it look familiar? >> I remember flipping through it. >> I got the email, but I didn't know >> the purpose. I was kind of like that's

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why I I was question. I didn't >> It won't take us forward. Let's >> No, I don't care about that. But I didn't presented the community. I do not want to be the person that does that. So, >> okay. Yeah. I'm not sure. So my question to you is she said the last I'm I'm

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sorry guys, this is confusing, but it says here the last thing I saw which is >> um Paul was going to put this on the August 3rd environmental committee agenda is and we are meeting August 3rd. So does she mean this here?

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>> Okay, she's going to come meet with us. So I am not going to present it because she's going to present it right >> here. >> Okay. Yes. here in the environmental commission >> during during the environmental commission meeting. Correct. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. That makes sense then to me.

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>> Yeah, that's good. >> We have to remember to get that she's on the August 3rd agenda. Okay. So, basically the update then on this item is that >> okay, >> she councilwoman is going to come to our August 3rd environmental commission meeting and do a presentation on the

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portable solar. Um, and prior to that, she's going to be presenting to a group from Canal Walk and Somerset Run to kind of like get some ideas and feedback from them. >> I remember what I thought on reading it. There's absolutely no mention of

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batteries and it would seem to me what the logical thing is to connect this up to portable solar to a battery and then you charge items off the battery. >> You're exactly right. this morning or

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this afternoon, I read now a new one um on this stuff and they were talking about the fact that people with the right equipment can plug into an outlet because the inverter is built into the cell, the solar cell and the plug.

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>> This proposal says don't plug into the wall >> and that came from our fire. Our fire >> that's exactly if if the thing is not equipped with the proper materials, you can have a fire, right? But according to what the the thing I read this afternoon, the plugs are going to have

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some have something inside that says now it's the inverter that will change it to AC. >> Yeah. >> And you'd have to change it to >> has to change and then evidently it can

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feed in. The question is what happens uh at night time? >> What does it know? Does does it feed back to you don't want it to charge the cell, >> you know, the solar cell. >> It's only supposed the currents are only

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supposed to go one way out of the cell and into >> and that's what Sterling was talking to me about this this afternoon and I think we got to clarify that a lot. >> So this this will be a a very important point to bring up at the meeting. >> Yes. >> So that to that presentation is

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adjustments >> I think so. Okay. But um yeah because as Sterling said too the big saving our emphasis had been mainly on using the battery and for medical people that had medical that need to be stored whatever

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you know we had a nice a fairly long power uh loss in the in the apartments was 9 hours we had no power and people with solar solar cells could have kept their equipment charged or whatever they needed >> running dialysis away.

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>> Yeah. Exactly. So it's not impossible especially with the weather changing as we are >> but this presentation doesn't hit that a little bit and I think that's one of the things we're going to bring up. >> Yeah that will be helpful. Yeah.

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>> Well proposal does go on about uh yeah storing medical supplies and so forth and that of course is something you would want. You should invite a sterling to the to >> continuously, but you got to have a battery to do it overnight.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. The other thing is that >> what what this >> the other thing that he injected here is it says not it says not to run the thing 24 hours. >> Mhm. And >> yes, and not to use it as your primary >> running stuff 24 hours for 30 years.

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>> Right. And control the average person, >> you know. and and it does work. Um and if you've gone off a battery then certainly you can run in 24 hours if the battery's got enough charge you know. >> Uh yeah

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I mean at night it wouldn't be producing electricity anyway. >> Right. Right. So if so but if you're keeping your little refrigerator from the meds or something you charge it'll draw down from the battery which is what why the battery is there.

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>> Yeah. So the sort of a question is it assumed that the the the [snorts] portable solar has a battery as part of the system or you have to >> those are separate >> batteries are separate.

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>> We saw in the was about yay big and that was a the one that the science teacher had for the high school. It was about just about this size and it was maybe 100. It might have been up to 300 watts that it could it could do. Yes. And it

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had USB plugs and it had regular outlet plugs. >> How much did the battery for that cost? >> Um 100 to 100 to2 $300 depending on the And he also recommended Eric did from the fire prevention. He mentioned and it

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it mentions it here. You got to buy ones that have the UL signature on them. There's a they have a standard uh 7700 I think. for 7,000 I think. I think it's UL7,000. >> Is there a life expectancy for those batteries? >> They go a long time.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. But u that's the thing that we want to find >> and they can store the solar energy for quite a long time. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, uh, but it's for people with

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apartments, it's a way to they talk about lowering in this article this afternoon and people can expect maybe to lower their electric bills by about 10%. Which is not bad because you got to lay out money to do that, you know. So, [clears throat] what the payback is,

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>> well, it's recommended that you use it as as a backup system, not as your primary. >> Oh, yes. Right. >> Yeah. Well, it would be a backup, but also you could charge your cell phone. >> Exactly. >> How's your battery charging on your cell

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phone? >> It t it takes a couple of sunny days uh to charge. >> Uhhuh. >> But once it charges fully,

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I can charge my phone two or three times. I can charge my like it stores quite a bit of >> stores. So you can run >> quite a bit of energy >> and then put it back on the charger. >> Then I can charge my my laptop >> as well.

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>> All with the one >> the one charger >> now once it's depleted. >> You need so many days. >> I need to a couple of days >> to re Yeah. to refill. So yeah, I was

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surprised by how much was in there. >> Yeah, >> because it's the size of this. Just a little thicker. >> I remember you had it. >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it goes a long way once it's charged. But it takes a while for it to charge because it's so small.

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>> Yes. Yeah. >> Oh, it all depends on the relative size of the cell and the battery. smaller battery, you would finish charging it sooner, but you could do less with it. >> Exactly. And my problem is because I

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read that if you know from the fire prevention perspective because I read that you know you have to be careful because if you leave them unattended for a very long time in in very high temperatures

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>> they can explode and they can start a fire. Um, oh good. We have to give this to >> So, so when I'm I'm leaving the house, if I have it by the window, >> I I take it off. I take it off the window because I'm like,

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>> you don't want to overcharge. >> I don't want to overcharge. I don't want it to heat up like if it's in the 90s or something. So, I say, "No, no, no." So, that maybe that's why it's taking a while. Like, I don't know how high it should go. And then I try to

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feel how hot it's it's gotten. >> Yeah. >> Because these things heat up. You may remember, >> you may remember even now they say don't leave your phone. >> You know what I'm >> in the sun in your car for hours because

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>> he can heat up. I too was if you leave it down like this, if you can tilt it when it's charging, I put it against the the countertop so it's at an angle. That's a better way to do it. charging it this way. You make the you could make the the cell phone too hot.

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>> Really? >> I read that a couple. You read the same thing. >> Yes. >> Something on it that tells you when it's fully charged. >> Yes. It has five five uh lights that turn green as it charges. And uh yeah,

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so I started today charging it and I have one >> one dot, but I kept taking it off the window because I was in and out of the house. >> Got it. Got it. Yeah. >> Well, when she gives the presentation, then she'll get some feedback and then

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we can give her feedback at the August meeting. By the way, >> you know more about it than Councilman Houdin does. You should be giving them [laughter] >> Oh, personal experience. >> Yeah, >> I think Sterling should be maybe we

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should tell her that >> Sterling is coming to the He may come to next to the [snorts] 3 to to our meeting here. >> Yeah. >> No, I'm saying that Sterling should be >> maybe I in July again >> July 27th, >> right? I'll talk to him again.

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information. >> When I found this article on the web this afternoon, I called them to read what I was reading, >> right? >> And we discussed it a little bit, >> right? because I can speak personal experience but I really would like his informed opinion about well is it okay

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if it's a little hot and you I leave it at the window you know like how much the safety aspect of it you know >> the things it's >> maybe we can find there's articles from all over the country on this stuff now >> yeah it's uh it's taking off and it's

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approved in New Jersey so it's [snorts] New Jersey is one of uh 13 just 13 states >> already that have approved it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So we are pretty much at the forefront of >> you know

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>> but my uh my grandson who is in the army now when they go camping he said they always bring solar cells with them. >> Yeah. >> And they they you know heat up the food. They do all sorts of stuff with it. >> It's part of what they've been doing for >> Oh gosh. >> the four years he's been in ROC. >> It's amazing. It's like you have this

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present from nature that's free, >> right? Yeah. Absolutely. >> They're they're also pushing it to people who have campers and RVs. >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> So that would be great. >> Sure. >> Yeah.

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>> So let's get back on the agenda. >> Okay. >> Garden rain garden project six my own July 4th meeting update. So, there was a meeting um at July on July 14th and Robin sent an update uh not an update,

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she basically sent like a summary of the meeting. Um so, just to go over uh that, the next meeting is August 25th at 400 p.m. Um right now they're going to focus on getting two to three contractors to

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do the heavy digging. Um and Rucker's Cooperative Extension, their water resources program has agreed to oversee the construction. Jack Otterbine um encouraged to select a contractor who has the size to be able to handle what maybe severely condition severely packed

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conditions the soil there. >> Um >> they have to run a a pipe for overflow from the garden all the way to Claremont Avenue. >> Right. Right. And that's through a

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hard packed parking area. >> Okay. >> Yeah. They really need a professional contract. >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> Uh they need to check with the township. So that'll be me and you, Ted, it looks like to see if we need a soil impact per important.

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>> I brought that up right actually while driving home afterwards. I >> You remembered? Yeah. Okay. They will probably need a soil soil importation, >> right? That makes sense. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Um Heather Fenick from

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Lower Raritton Wershed Partnership joined and she was able to talk about funding opportunities and um how to work with the New Jersey water supply in the county. Maria was there and she has worked up a draft model curriculum for

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educators. Jig Nasha. She's actually a member of our trails advisory committee and she's also a teacher at the Thomas Edison Smart Energy Charter School. Um she's very helpful and she's very knowledgeable with green infrastructure. Um so Robin and the church are going to

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be working on identifying grant opportunities and funding sources. She's going to speak with businesses such as Confectionately Yours and Maggie, our bank. Um, Bruce and Martha graciously offered to create a fundraising thermometer.

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Um, Heather also recommended we may want to get certified as backyard habitat through the National Wildlife Federation. That's a good idea. Um, and then in just the last 24 hours, two individuals from the church pledged modest gifts to help with the development of it. So, basically, they

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are working on it. Um, she included the design. This was done as part of the green infrastructure strategic plan that we developed through with [snorts] our work with Rucker's cooperative extensions water resources project. So

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um they actually already had done the uh existing plan design and then what the rain garden design would be. Um let me get over to the spot. Uh come on. I'm telling you. Here we go.

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Okay. Uh, so basically that's kind of like the shape that it would be. And then if you go to the next page, it really like gets into um where the drainage will be and what tree types and plants types are recommended. Uh, so

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basically it's very comprehensive plan. So just this alone here's the under drain. Um here is the quantity of what's needed for the rain garden in terms of the soil, the mulch, the stone, the plants.

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Uh so they really give you all that information. They've also calculated how much storm water runoff it will manage um over time, what the storm water volume is. So Rucker's water resources program has already done this. And then they basically talk about how to plant

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the trees, what kind of trees, the construction notes, and then we have the planting schedule over here. So the a lot of the work was done through our green infrastructure strategic plan a while back, but six mile run reform church really wants to get on, you know,

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working on it. So the next meeting is August 25th at 4 pm at the church and so we will see where we're at at that point. So it is moving forward, which is really great. >> Sounds awesome. Okay. [clears throat] Yeah. >> All right. >> Yep.

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>> Okay. Are there any committee reports? >> August what? 25th >> 25th 4 p.m. >> I received an email um from Miss Holer, sixth grade literacy special education

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teacher at Samson Middle School. Um she they are very interesting. No, she said that they have met with the middle school green team along with

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their administrator advisor and they are interested in um the streaming of the movie multiple I forgot the title. No >> multiple choice. >> Yes. >> I think Stan talked about this last time. Yes.

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>> Yes. Well, right now, but she she reached out on July 13 and I emailed her back and I um let her know I think I copy Stan Paul and you Terra that yeah,

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we are interested but I was very specific asking for days in October or November, >> right? >> You told me that September is a busy month. >> Yes. Mhm. >> Um, so I'm waiting to to hear from the

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school now and then we'll have to talk about the format because if we are going to have a screening, we will probably will have speakers at the end. >> Yeah. >> Experts. Okay. >> For the parents and and the kids. >> So October and November dates and we're waiting for her to get back to us.

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>> Yes. She had an answer, but I expect that they're in the summer time. >> Oh gosh. Yeah, absolutely. No, October, November will be better because we're we are kind of jammed. Yeah. >> Day and and >> Okay, >> good. Okay, >> that's my report. >> Thank you.

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>> There's Stan's not here, so I don't think there's any other committees. No. Uh, any hot topics somebody wants to bring up? >> We've covered a lot already. >> Yeah. >> Well, I think we need to start focusing more specifically on Franklin Day.

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>> Ah, yes. Um, [snorts] >> okay. I don't remember what is it here at the complex again. And is there a date already on the calendar? So, >> I don't think the date has been out. I haven't received any. The date might be out, but I haven't received any. You know how we sign up for the table and

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everything? That has not come out yet. >> So, as soon as that comes out, I'll obviously make sure I get us a table for sure. >> Um, the Leave the Leaves um brochures are are being printed at the county print [clears throat] shop, so hopefully I can pick them up this [snorts] week.

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Uh, we have the light bulbs from the grant hangout. We hand out. We have the nightlights. So, we definitely have giveaways and everything for Franklin Day. We have brochures. We also printed out all those Anjack brochures last time. [clears throat and laughter] >> So, I think we're in really good shape for Franklin Day this year for sure. And

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I just don't have us signed up for a table [clears throat] yet. >> Yeah. Well, >> the date has been decided. I just don't remember. But >> advocate might know the date. I don't have to. >> I think it's the 21st, but I'm not sure.

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>> The 12th, the 19th, and the 26th of the Saturdays. >> One of them might be the 19th, but I don't. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Better [clears throat] than anything that we have. >> Day, September 26th, 12 to 5 at the

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municipal complex. Okay. >> December 26th is when we're going away. I'm not going to be here. >> Oh, that's okay. >> We're going for a week at Chicago on foreign affairs. The whole week's going to be foreign discussions. >> Oh, nice.

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>> Ambassadors and foreign experts. >> That'll be interesting. >> I've never been there before. Didn't neither was Gail, so that'll be Yes. So, it's here at the municipal complex. So, but in for for your um answer, Walter, we actually I think

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we're we have a lot of stuff. We have the tablecloth, we have the giveaways, we have the literature handouts. I think we're in good shape. >> Yeah. This I I won't say I'm concerned, but we just want to make sure that we have coverage

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>> uh because people come up and ask questions. I think we've even gotten new members through, you know, engaging people as they >> come to the booth or to the area there. >> Very important. >> Co's not going to be here, so we know that for sure.

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>> Stan usually goes, so I'm sure he can be there, but on the next I'll put it on the agenda for the next meeting and we'll try to get >> Yes, Teddy. So, I'll put it on the agenda for the next meeting and we'll try to get at least some of the hours covered. >> Actually, we're leaving We're leaving on

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the 27th. What date is this? 19th. >> I might be able to make it >> 26th. It is. Yes, >> I'll put it on the next agenda so that everyone on Sunday can figure out what they're doing. >> I'll be able to I'll be packed. So, I'll

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be able to do it. >> Okay. >> I think we'll leave it on Sunday. On uh on Sunday. Yeah. So, and the thing is Saturday. Okay. Franklin day. >> All right. Um if I may um I need to

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correct the record on the presentation. Okay. There are two different things going on. Um the presentation that you prepared Tyran will be discussed here on August 3rd.

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>> Yes. That I have that sound. Yeah. >> The July 27th meeting that shea has planned. Right. She did not specify what the meeting is about, >> but by looking at the participants, it's

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a followup of the meeting on the ordinance. >> Oh, that's >> that the township passed. >> Okay. >> Or the uh the expanded B9. >> Yes. That >> Yes. Okay. So, I apologize.

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>> I didn't realize either. Okay. >> Yeah. So the 27th it's not about Okay. But she did ask solar panels on the >> August 3rd >> canal walk agenda. >> Yeah, she asked me but that's going to be later sometime.

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>> Okay. So that's okay. So we'll just focus on the August 3rd one here which is the next. >> Perfect. [laughter] All righty. Um okay. >> Okay. So um we actually discussed the flywalk already. Yeah,

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>> I did that. I didn't I didn't look at that. >> And uh the ameritus committee. I don't know what what's new with that. >> No update. No update yet. >> And Dan's not here about leave the leaves. >> Leave the leaves. The only thing I will say is the um purchase order was

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approved to order the materials. So, uh like I said, I should be able to print out I'm sorry, pick up the um brochures probably the next few days. Um, so yeah, we can start handing those out and we'll get it up on our website. So, yeah.

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>> Okay. Um, the leaf blower ordinance, uh, we actually discussed that as part of the >> Yeah, we discussed the legislation. I don't think there's been any other movement on the ordinance. Yeah. >> Uh, update on the open space recreation plan. That would be you.

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>> Yeah. I don't really have an update for that just yet. >> Our meeting tomorrow is uh cancelled, right? >> Yes. The open space committee meeting for tomorrow has been cancelled. Yes. I remember you said you thought that would happen in >> We usually don't meet in July or August unless we have to. Yeah.

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>> Okay. Uh other than that, was there anything else I wanted to mention? I think I think we're good. Um any other old business anybody wants to bring up? So then um we'll ask for a motion to open

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the Florida move. Second. >> Anybody all approved? >> Yes. >> It's approved. >> Nobody here. Billy, you got any comments? >> No. >> But yeah, you got to ask. [laughter] >> So, being no comments, motion to close to >> move. Approve. Approved. Approved.

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>> Yes. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Yes. I I I meeting. Awesome.